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bossoflatch
03-10-2008, 10:07
tay is 21 months almost and shes had huge health issues ..
doesnt eat food and survives on elemental formula quite nicely ;)

but we have sleeping issues.. on rare occassions she sleeps thru .. from 8ish thru to 6pm. but for the most part she wakes up about 10pm and is up and down from then until about 4am ..


if it was behavioural wouldnt she not sleep everynight ? we wonder if its still some pain she has going on from her intolerance/ allergies ??? as when she wakes up screaming we really run to her.. and the other nights when she wakes up grizzly .. we let her try to resettle ... which sometimes she does.. but then again sometimes she makes her way into our room .

we dont mind her coming in ..but with a new baby we dont want to wake her either - we just cant seem to win on this one.. we also wonder if she wakes up hungry as shes only on formula but giving her more bottle makes it worse as she wets more and hates wet nappies overnight lol

Mum2Bug
03-10-2008, 12:08
I have no advice but i have plenty of sympathy. I have a 3 year old that rarely eats and has to have drinks of milk to get her through the night. She wakes 2-3 times, each time having about 200ml of milk to fill her belly. I hope you can figure something out soon :hugs::hugs:

~Candy~
03-10-2008, 12:21
I have no advice but i have plenty of sympathy. I have a 3 year old that rarely eats and has to have drinks of milk to get her through the night. She wakes 2-3 times, each time having about 200ml of milk to fill her belly. I hope you can figure something out soon :hugs::hugs:

:iagree:..both my little ones still wake during the night and I give them their milk and change their nappy (otherwise they wake up soaked). If that doesn't work...I end up co-sleeping with them..but that's not often.
Maybe try a nightlight...some sleep music :detective:

mim1
07-10-2008, 22:05
Hi Leisa :hugs:

Sounds like what Josh was doing a few months ago. For similar reasons we had no idea what the cause exactly was, but we were concerned something was wrong. But then he got grommets which fixed his constant ear aches and his reflux was improving, so our paed told us to just do controlled crying and stick with it. He reassurred us that nothing was wrong medically and he shouldn't be hungry overnight. The first week was rough, but we got through and now he mostly sleeps through the night.

So, you've ruled out hunger ... doesn't sound like that's the issue.

Has she had ear troubles? If she's had a bad night and your GP says she doesn't have fluid in her ears or an ear infection, then that's ruled out.

Then, that leaves tummy pain and I know that's tough. I suppose one way to gauge that is how she is during the day. I know reflux is worse when lying down and tummy cramps can occur at any time, but if she's symptom free during the day that's less likely I suppose. What does her gastroenterologist think?

Just decide what you're going to do about overnights and stick to it. It may be that if she's grizzling you leave her for 10 minutes before going in and telling her to go to sleep (and checking she hasn't lost her dummy, wet through her clothes, etc). But if she wakes up screaming go in, give her a cuddle for 5 seconds (enough to stop her screaming), tell her 'its all ok, but it's time for sleep now', put her back in the cot and leave. She may scream for you again, but have a set time (eg. 5 minutes) before you go back in. If you go back in make sure you're firm and just say 'its time for sleep' and leave again. These toddlers know what sleep is and also know when you're grumpy. Use that. :)

Try this for at least a week. It may mean less sleep for you and your dh for a few nights (and possibly the other kids), but hopefully in the long run things might improve. If it doesn't work then at least you tried.

Sorry for the long post.

Jadee
08-10-2008, 10:47
Hello,

I think that its to do with her digestion and also because I found the elemental formulas just did not fill up our bubs tummy and when her tummy wasn't full she would have abdominal pains and woke all the time for more formula. As a mum we know a cry of distress and because our intolerance bubs are always crying in distress we start to doubt ourselves.

DD3 is 14 months now and still having night feeds I would have never given my older girls night feeds at this age but as you know allergies/intolerances are completly different.

I haven't tried controlled crying beacuse you can't teach a bub or child to sleep when they are waking in pain. I now offer luke warm water to soothe her tummy. We are very lucky that we have introduced many new foods successfully and this is helping so much she still wakes but not with those screams that make me jump and run.

I tried to book us in to a sleep clinic recently and when they found out she was only on elemental formula and waking screaming they said that they couldn't help me:hair:.

I hope that you all get some sleep soon, it doesn't sound behavioural to me more that her little tummy is diturbing her in the night.

Take :hugs:care