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madlaina
25-09-2008, 11:22
This is just a bit of a rant about health professionals who really don't know much about breastfeeding and the benefits of breastmilk.
I went to see our GP yesterday as DS (15 months) has had diarrhoea since Saturday. He is perfectly fine apart from that, not vomity, not dehydrated, eats, drinks heaps and plays as he normally would. Basically, he's his happy self, apart from having to change his nappy frequently.
Anyway, she mentioned the danger of getting dehydrated and losing electrolytes and suggested I should give DS Gastrolyte. I have tried, he absolutely hates the stuff and spits it all out. I told her so and said that DS is still breastfed and I have been giving him extra breastfeeds instead to replenish the lost electrolytes.
She said breastmilk doesn't contain electrolytes and I should really persist with the Gastrolyte. WTF? I knew then and there that couldn't be true, as it makes no sense. The human body needs electrolytes to function and if Breastmilk was devoid of them, surely solely breastfed young babies would die?
So when I got home I googled it and while I couldn't find much in a hurry, I did find several medical articles that confirmed that breastmilk does indeed contain electrolytes, although the exact compositon varies from mother to mother as well as from day to day in the same mother and hasn't been studied in detail past about 6 months postpartum.
Anyway, all I wanted to say is that I'm so angry about this misinformation. Other mothers who may be less well informed or unsure about breastfeeding may be very negatively affected by this sort of statement, which has the potential to impact on their breastfeeding relathionship. Our GP has been very good so far and I trust her in other aspect, but needless to say I won't be approaching her with any breastfeeding questions. I'll just do my own research in that regard and will rely on information from you wonderful ladies.

Chunkydunks
25-09-2008, 11:28
:hair: I was given bad advice regarding BF by my GP and I pretty sure it contributed to me loosing my supply and DS loosing weight and eventually having to FF. I feel if she hadn't told me to move him to front feed and supplement him that one bottle I would have been able to feed him for a lot longer. I think GPs know a lot but should NEVER speculate on things they don't know. My sister was told to feed my nephew more often to make sure he did dehydrate when he had gastro and thats what you'd expect to be told not to feed him something like gastrolite.

Go with the research n this one for sure.

Hollywood
25-09-2008, 11:32
:rolleyes: Stoopid Dr :shame:

Obviously hasn't got a clue about BFing and was pulling information out of her @rse.

There has been two occasions where DS had a fever (once it was 41oC) and if it weren't for BFing he would have gotten severely dehydrated as he also hated hydralite.

Anyway, I'm sure your Dr is fine otherwise, but she really needs to brush up on her BFing knowledge.

~Bec~
25-09-2008, 11:40
Thanks for posting that :)
I've actually wondered myself when replying to posts about babies with gastro but the OP has often not mentioned if they are bf or ff. I didn't succeed at bf but expressed for a few months and when DS had gastro I gave him pedialyte which he fortunately liked (he'll eat nearly anything :rolleyes: )
Can I suggest you post your GP a copy of some of the articles? :)

ikis84
25-09-2008, 11:45
I'd report that doctor, and send them a nice little email with the links to the studies, and suggest that they actually get informed about what they are talking about before they give 'advice'.

madlaina
25-09-2008, 13:37
Oh yes, I just remembered that Robin Barker writes in 'Babylove' (about as mainstream as you can get) that the best thing for breastfed babies suffering gastro is to only give then BM for a few days!

AM
25-09-2008, 14:21
Crazy huh?? I too would STRONGLY suggest you get those FACTS to that doctor, they need to know when they are handing out utter rubbish advice as medical knowledge, and the fact that patients can check this with a bit of individual research may just make this doctor check their facts next time.

kkaz
25-09-2008, 14:22
Although I agree that it is best to keep breastfeeding when a bubs has gastro, perhaps you should consider this before you ditch your doc:

Maybe she was talking about the relative amounts/types of electrolytes in breastmilk versus gastrolyte?

When a baby is dehydrated (and from your account it doesn't sound like your bub was....so maybe not so relevant to your situation this time) they need to INCREASE the amount of salts, in order to re-absorb water from the GI tract. When they absorb the sugar/citrate in the gastrolyte, they absorb the salts better, through a linked transporter across the cell membranes.

I know breastmilk contains electrolytes, but maybe she was talking about the relative proportions etc, and its relevance to rehydrating your bubs. When an adult has gastro, nobody tells them to just go around drinking Normal Saline (even though this contains electrolytes as well).

Maybe all doctors are not as bad as we like to make out they are? Maybe there actually is some logic in their reasoning...though perhaps not explained to you as well as could be?? Just a thought.....:o

shed
25-09-2008, 14:32
GPs regularly give breastfeeding advice but they aren't trained in it. That is a fact, they are simply not trained in it, even if they want to take part in the antenatal shared care program, there is no training provided or required.

I read an article in a medical magazine where they did a survey of GPs and it said that they only knew about it if they had done it themselves, so you are probably better off asking on here about breastfeeding.

I know people say that doctors must know what they are talking about coz they are doctors after all, but honestly, if they haven't studied it then they aren't a doctor on it, they are just a person.

kkaz
25-09-2008, 14:40
GPs regularly give breastfeeding advice but they aren't trained in it. That is a fact, they are simply not trained in it, even if they want to take part in the antenatal shared care program, there is no training provided or required.

I read an article in a medical magazine where they did a survey of GPs and it said that they only knew about it if they had done it themselves, so you are probably better off asking on here about breastfeeding.

I know people say that doctors must know what they are talking about coz they are doctors after all, but honestly, if they haven't studied it then they aren't a doctor on it, they are just a person.


I agree with your logic about the "just being a person" thing. :)

However, I think you will find that the curriculum for most medical degrees includes the topic of breastfeeding, and you will also find that GPs are (in most area health services) required to participate in antenatal training in order to do shared care. This does not necessarily involve training on BF though.

KatiesMum
25-09-2008, 14:45
:eek: :eek: :eek: I cannot beleive your doctor told you to give your baby gastrolyte in preference to breastmilk.

that is just so wrong.


If your bubs has gastro - breastmilk is simply the BEST thing to give them .... way above and beyond all else.

Deserama
25-09-2008, 16:42
But that's one of the things they tell you if they're sick...up the breastfeeds!!! If they're getting nothing else then at least they have breastmilk!

What an idiot!!!!

shed
25-09-2008, 17:25
I agree with your logic about the "just being a person" thing. :)

However, I think you will find that the curriculum for most medical degrees includes the topic of breastfeeding, and you will also find that GPs are (in most area health services) required to participate in antenatal training in order to do shared care. This does not necessarily involve training on BF though.

I am very aware of the training curriculum for GPs. I used to work for a company that is contracted by the government to provide the training, both to become a GP and provided workshops for ongoing study to GPs already in practice.

The training for the antenatal shared care program is very limited and you're right, it does not involve any training on breastfeeding (which is what we are talking about).

Its a sad state of affairs and is unfortunately reflected in the bad advice they give.

kkaz
25-09-2008, 19:47
Yes...there should be more focus on breastfeeding for GP's......but I guess they could say that about a lot of things. :rolleyes: If training was UNLIMITED then they could provide more focus for a lot of other important quasi-medical issues.

It may be the case that specific GP training does not involve any breastfeeding training, but that is because it is done at UNIVERSITY...before specialty training... all doctors, regardless of what field they eventually go into, does some training re breastfeeding....

Sorry, won't hijack this thread anymore.
Keep Breastfeeding your little one while he is unwell... it really is the best thing for him. :thumbsup:

UmmInayah
25-09-2008, 20:24
It's not right for doctors to say something untrue.

But as for all doctors should know about breastfeeding etc, I think we as patients need to be more selective of the GPs we see.

It's not fair to think that GPs should know about every single thing. It's like me going to a GP who specialises in Geriatrics and ask them about skin cancer for example.

You will find that GPs all have a field they are more interested in. Find a GP interested in Pediatrics or at least Infant Health and then complain.

Give the poor doctors a break. Australia has free healthcare and we are so lucky for this.

shed
25-09-2008, 20:35
It may be the case that specific GP training does not involve any breastfeeding training, but that is because it is done at UNIVERSITY...before specialty training... all doctors, regardless of what field they eventually go into, does some training re breastfeeding....

Well, I guess it depends on your definition of 'training' then. As I said, I worked for this company, had access to the study schedule, had a specific interest in the breastfeeding training provided to GPs and have come to my conclusion. So, for whatever that is worth, that was my experience that caused me to form my opinion.

UmmInayah: If they don't know, they need to refer rather than make stuff up, don't you think? Free or not, bad advice isn't worth anything.

UmmInayah
25-09-2008, 20:39
UmmInayah: If they don't know, they need to refer rather than make stuff up, don't you think? Free or not, bad advice isn't worth anything.

I did say it is not right for doctors to say something that is untrue :)

JabberJaw
25-09-2008, 20:55
Although I agree that it is best to keep breastfeeding when a bubs has gastro, perhaps you should consider this before you ditch your doc:

Maybe she was talking about the relative amounts/types of electrolytes in breastmilk versus gastrolyte?

When a baby is dehydrated (and from your account it doesn't sound like your bub was....so maybe not so relevant to your situation this time) they need to INCREASE the amount of salts, in order to re-absorb water from the GI tract. When they absorb the sugar/citrate in the gastrolyte, they absorb the salts better, through a linked transporter across the cell membranes.

I know breastmilk contains electrolytes, but maybe she was talking about the relative proportions etc, and its relevance to rehydrating your bubs. When an adult has gastro, nobody tells them to just go around drinking Normal Saline (even though this contains electrolytes as well).

Maybe all doctors are not as bad as we like to make out they are? Maybe there actually is some logic in their reasoning...though perhaps not explained to you as well as could be?? Just a thought.....:o



:iagree: A few weeks ago my bub was quite ill and not breastfeeding properly, ( although she was feeding small amounts) she was getting dehydrated quite quickly so we took her off to hospital. She was assessed and given gastolyte/hydrolyte via a syringe 7ml at a time every ten minutes for an hour, this fixed her up quite quickly and because we where sure it was going down, the doctor allowed us to go home and we had to go back in the following day for a follow up.
Although bub was feeding a small amount she still had to have 70ml (in total) of hydrolyte. My doctor basically said the same thing kkaz said in the above quoted post. It was all about getting alot of electrolytes in, in one big hit as breast milk didn't have the amounts needed to rehydrate her quick enough.
Bub is fine now and after her disgusting hydrolyte she was only to happy to go back to her breast milk!
So i think you might have taken your doctor in the wrong kinda context. Maybe you could bring it up on your next visit and you may find that your doctor wanted bulk electrolytes in to your baby, quickly.

kkaz
25-09-2008, 21:00
It's not right for doctors to say something untrue.

But as for all doctors should know about breastfeeding etc, I think we as patients need to be more selective of the GPs we see.

It's not fair to think that GPs should know about every single thing. It's like me going to a GP who specialises in Geriatrics and ask them about skin cancer for example.

You will find that GPs all have a field they are more interested in. Find a GP interested in Pediatrics or at least Infant Health and then complain.

Give the poor doctors a break. Australia has free healthcare and we are so lucky for this.

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

What she said! :thumbsup:

Again...I don't know that this is the right place for this debate - maybe we should start a new thread??... or not!! :laughing: - but everyone thinks they are an expert in *some* area of medicine. They often then think that they could do a better job than their GP. They forget that a GP has to know *lots and lots and lots*, including when an illness is serious enough to cause great harm to a patient (even though the patient would never even consider a particular symptom to be evidence of something more sinister).

Shed - I will only reiterate my previous statement. You talk of your experience in working for a company that provided GP training. There is much training for doctors prior to this level of training......hmmmm... about 6 years worth... they do manage to fit some breastfeeding training in there.

There are many people, however, who see both birthing and breastfeeding as natural conditions, rather than diseases. Lots of people do not want a doctors involvement in their antenatal care, delivery, or nursing care (and fair enough). It is not fair, then, to ask doctors to know every detail about breastfeeding, when half the time they have been asked not to participate in such matters.

Lactation consultants exist for a reason...because breastfeeding is not a medical condition.. and a different type of expert is required for transmission of information about breastfeeding.

shed
25-09-2008, 21:01
I did say it is not right for doctors to say something that is untrue :)

oh yes, so you did:yes:. But you stuck up for them quite a lot after that so I didn't know if you really meant it :p

(I'm joking btw) :D

shed
25-09-2008, 21:06
Lactation consultants exist for a reason...because breastfeeding is not a medical condition.. and a different type of expert is required for transmission of information about breastfeeding.

:iagree: You're right. I think there should be more of them and being referred to one should be something that happens very easily. They should be in hospitals and birthing units everywhere, as permanent staff, and every new mother should have free access to them after she leaves the hospital or at home if that is where she gave birth.

This would avoid the situation of people complaining about pushy midwives as well as clueless GPs.

kkaz
25-09-2008, 21:06
:iagree: A few weeks ago my bub was quite ill and not breastfeeding properly, ( although she was feeding small amounts) she was getting dehydrated quite quickly so we took her off to hospital. She was assessed and given gastolyte/hydrolyte via a syringe 7ml at a time every ten minutes for an hour, this fixed her up quite quickly and because we where sure it was going down, the doctor allowed us to go home and we had to go back in the following day for a follow up.
Although bub was feeding a small amount she still had to have 70ml (in total) of hydrolyte. My doctor basically said the same thing kkaz said in the above quoted post. It was all about getting alot of electrolytes in, in one big hit as breast milk didn't have the amounts needed to rehydrate her quick enough.
Bub is fine now and after her disgusting hydrolyte she was only to happy to go back to her breast milk!
So i think you might have taken your doctor in the wrong kinda context. Maybe you could bring it up on your next visit and you may find that your doctor wanted bulk electrolytes in to your baby, quickly.

Thank you misskelz. I am glad your DD is all well again now. :goodvibes:

Now, can we stop the doctor bashing please???

A very smart man (my dad :bee:) says:

"It's easy to think it's easy when you don't know what you don't know."

UmmInayah
25-09-2008, 21:09
oh yes, so you did:yes:. But you stuck up for them quite a lot after that so I didn't know if you really meant it :p

(I'm joking btw) :D

LOL!

But seriously.. I mean, cmon. There is so much GP and other medical field bashing going around (well, that I have noticed). People tend to forget the bigger picture. They're not there to purposefully make your life harder. They are there to help to save lives etc.

Maybe we should just say to GPs "Forget saying a WORD about breastfeeding to women and tell them to contact the ABA."

Maybe I could create these signs and sell them to medical practices :detective:

shed
25-09-2008, 21:19
Some might see it as doctor-bashing, but others see it as exploring all the options or encouraging people to ask more questions, especially when the advice is conflicting.

I think the mums with the questions are more important. They have the final say after all. To me, that IS the bigger picture.

I have nothing against doctors but I do like to see people question things before they make their decision. I think it's good. Its their baby after all and people who are making informed choices are usually alot happier with their decisions.

kkaz
25-09-2008, 21:30
Oh, of course. Asking questions is essential, especially as a mum. And a mum must trust her instincts above all else, especially where her child is concerned.

If a mum is not happy with a doctor's advice I would encourage, nigh insist, she get a second (or third or fourth) medical opinion.

My beef is that too often, people (not talking about the OP here!!) ask *their friends* for the second opinion, without the second medical opinion.

Like I said, it is east to believe you are an expert when you do not even know the bounds of your own knowledge. Google is not all-knowing!! Just because you can search on an internet browser does not an expert make!

If you read Misskelz's post on here you will see (and hopefully now agree) that the OP's doctor *perhaps* was actually correct. All the doctor-bashing (and yes, that is what I would call it) was actually completely unjustified in this case. That is my beef. :o

madlaina
26-09-2008, 07:34
Oh dear, I have opened a can of worms!

It wasn't my intention to Dr-bash in general and as I said, I'm pretty happy with my GP and she has been a great help in many aspects since DS came along.
And I agree with what's been said about the relative proportion of electrolytes in Gastrolyte v Breastmilk. I would never reject my doctors advice in a case of severe dehydration and I understand the need to get electrolyte levels up quickly in such a case.
My beef with the advice I received relates to the fact that DS didn't show any signs of dehydration, was eating and drinking normally and just having additional breastfeeds to counteract the loss of fluids/electrolytes caused by diarrhoea. In these circumstances I just didn't see the point in holding him down while forcing the Hydralite down his gurgler. And yes, my doctor said 'Your breastmilk doesn't contain electrolytes', not 'your breastmilk doesn't contain enough electrolytes'.

kiwibird27
26-09-2008, 07:50
whenever my dd is sick, even slightly, I give her gastrolyte to supplement her formula, if she gets slightly dry it throws her electrolytes out completely, then we usually end up in hospital with an IV. But keep in mind I can cheat and stick it down dd's tube, it tastes horrible that stuff...I struggle to drink it!!! My daughter is also slightly different to the normal.....she has a metabolic condition which makes her 50 times worse than the norm.


I understand where your doctor is coming from, we live in a world of malpractice suits and there are some idiots out there who don't realise when there child is dehydrated (NOT U< DON"T TAKE OFFENSE) , so doctors have to give all the advise to everyone, or face getting in trouble when kids do get really sick. Low electrolytes can have a spin off effect, causing low potassium and increased heart rate, followed by organs starting to slow down and fail, then u can't get a cannular in cause they are dehydrated then u have serious issues...dehydration can kill little kids, VERY quickly, I can understand your doctor being cautious!!!

kkaz
26-09-2008, 10:00
Oh dear, I have opened a can of worms!

My beef with the advice I received relates to the fact that DS didn't show any signs of dehydration, was eating and drinking normally and just having additional breastfeeds to counteract the loss of fluids/electrolytes caused by diarrhoea. In these circumstances I just didn't see the point in holding him down while forcing the Hydralite down his gurgler. And yes, my doctor said 'Your breastmilk doesn't contain electrolytes', not 'your breastmilk doesn't contain enough electrolytes'.

Yes, I agree that it didn't sound like your DS was dehydrated...but you know...sometimes it is harder to spot the subtle signs of dehydration...and maybe, just maybe your doc saw some and wanted to treat mild dehydration before it turned into moderate dehydration, or worse still severe dehydration.

Maybe she doesn't know that BM contains electrolytes. Or maybe she just didn't think to explain that, yes BM contains some electrolytes, but not all of the ingredients contained in gastrolyte (eg citrate) which treat dehydration (and YES, gastrolyte even treats diarrhoea without dehydration too... but that is another story). Maybe she didn't realise that you would quote her verbatim and interpret/doubt every single word she uttered...maybe she just knew it would be best for your DS and didn't realise you wanted a blow by blow account of what electrolytes are and how they work. Maybe you could have questioned her right there and then rather than speculating about her knowledge later on?

Hey, I am not having a go at you here..absolutely not. You have a right to vent if and when you want/need to. I am just disappointed by the "band-wagon" that most other posters in this thread have jumped on, when they were not there in the consultation, they don't know whether your DS did show signs of dehydration etc etc. They were just happy enough to call her "stoopid", "idiot" and suggest you report her. :no: I wonder whether they would like it if we all said that we could do their job better (whatever that might be)...despite having no training, no experience.

Can I ask, with all respect, if your DS was happy, eating, drinking, not apparently dehydrated and didn't need gastrolyte treatment, why you took him to the doctor in the first place?

Deserama
26-09-2008, 10:09
Umm what do you think people did before gastolyte???

naiwen
26-09-2008, 10:17
Deserama,

Too many babies died of dehydration before gastrolyte and other ways of pumping electrolytes into the body became available.

Hundreds of thousands of babies still die of dehydration around the world.

We are lucky to have what we do.

And yes I agree that when bub only have very mild hydration issues BM is a great tool to keep them hydrated.

Deserama
26-09-2008, 10:31
Well I thought that's what we were all talking about...mild dehydration...I've had kids with mild dehydration from time to time...but it was mild and was sorted through breastfeeding - nothing more.

I'm sure if it had been any worse than that then they would have been admitted into hospital, that GP, had she thought it was worse than what it actually was, would have recommended hospital. But instead said that there was NO electrolytes in breastmilk which is false!

kkaz
26-09-2008, 10:52
Umm what do you think people did before gastolyte???

They got dehydrated and died...still happens in developing nations :no:

kkaz
26-09-2008, 10:54
Well I thought that's what we were all talking about...mild dehydration...I've had kids with mild dehydration from time to time...but it was mild and was sorted through breastfeeding - nothing more.

I'm sure if it had been any worse than that then they would have been admitted into hospital, that GP, had she thought it was worse than what it actually was, would have recommended hospital. But instead said that there was NO electrolytes in breastmilk which is false!

Oh come on....are the only two options??

(a) mild dehydration that can respond to upping breastfeeds (mind you, this is a 15 month old...not sure how many BF's he has per day anyway)

Or

(b) immediately call the ambulance and go to hospital.

Sheez! What a strain on the public health system we would have then!!

There is no in-between that can be managed in the community?

Deserama
26-09-2008, 10:56
They got dehydrated and died...still happens in developing nations :no:

We're talking about mild dehydration here. And I'm wondering what people did before gastrolyte. My mum used to give me flat lemonade for instance.

naiwen
26-09-2008, 10:57
:chillpill: I am thinking now that deserama meant that in the context only of mild dehydration, so while I do think we should be gratefull that we have access to stuff like hydrolyte and Dr's it's all good :shakehands:

Deserama
26-09-2008, 11:00
Oh come on....are the only two options??

(a) mild dehydration that can respond to upping breastfeeds (mind you, this is a 15 month old...not sure how many BF's he has per day anyway)

Or

(b) immediately call the ambulance and go to hospital.

Sheez! What a strain on the public health system we would have then!!

There is no in-between that can be managed in the community?

Well yes actually that's exactly what I think. My youngest was actually going to be admitted but wasn't because they decided that since I knew what I was doing that she'd be ok as long as I brought her back for monitoring, which I did. Gastrolyte was never mentioned to me at all by either the GP or health nurse *shrugs*

kkaz
26-09-2008, 11:00
Yep, it is all good :D

And look... i AGREE!!!!...breastfeeding IS a great option for mild dehydration.

I just don't think we should bag the doc when we don't know the full story...

kkaz
26-09-2008, 11:02
Well yes actually that's exactly what I think. My youngest was actually going to be admitted but wasn't because they decided that since I knew what I was doing that she'd be ok as long as I brought her back for monitoring, which I did. Gastrolyte was never mentioned to me at all by either the GP or health nurse *shrugs*

Maybe you should get a new doc then? LOL :D

There is most CERTAINLY a time between mild dehydration and that requiring hospitalisation...doctors treat this in the community all the time.

naiwen
26-09-2008, 11:04
Yep, it is all good :D

And look... i AGREE!!!!...breastfeeding IS a great option for mild dehydration.

I just don't think we should bag the doc when we don't know the full story...

Yep I get tired of the Dr bashing as well but I have a different perspective anyway :(.

JabberJaw
26-09-2008, 11:05
Just wanted to pop my 2 cents in.....

Mild Dehydration can turn to severe dehydration very quickly....my bub only needed 70ml of gastrolyte to fix her mild dehydration, it was enough to keep her out of hospital and being on a drip... The doctor in the OP was obviously trying to avoid this by suggesting gastrolyte. Gastrolyte can help the diarrhea subside or at least alleviate the symptoms anyway.

If the OPer obviously thought there was more to the diarrhea or wouldn't have been at the doctors with the child anyway.

Yes extra breast feeds are great, Yes gastrolyte is a fantastic recommendation for extra hydration and improved well being of the child.

Deserama
26-09-2008, 11:08
Nah because she was fine and by upping the breastfeeding and expressing it helped my supply which in turn helped her. Anyway that will be in my breastfeeding story up there when I eventually get there ;)

Maybe there is a happy medium there but saying that there is no electrolytes in breastmilk is incorrect information. I just don't think he should have said that.

But having said all that I'm still curious to know what our mother's did before gastrolyte LOL

Flat lemonade seemed to be the in thing back then...I've heard some other mothers say they've used red cordial too. Just interested is all.

kkaz
26-09-2008, 11:12
I had flat lemonade too! :D I loved it!!

It is just something sweet to help with the absorbtion of salt from the gi tract, and also to give some energy back...

sorry, typing with one hand here...

kkaz
26-09-2008, 11:13
Yep I get tired of the Dr bashing as well but I have a different perspective anyway :(.

naiwen, why the sad face? :(

naiwen
26-09-2008, 11:19
naiwen, why the sad face? :(

OT but my boy spent his first three months in hospy and has been in 10+ times since then.

He has lung problems, GI problems and they have just found a heart problem, Dr's have saved his life so many times I will not criticise them unless there is clear malpractice.

Ok back OT,

Deserama my mother used to give us flat lemonade to!

kkaz
26-09-2008, 11:51
Ohhh... :( I am so sorry for what you and your little boy have been through and are continuing to go through :hugs::hugs:

I really really hope the heart condition turns out to be only minor. It must be so tough..:(

Mrs Potts
26-09-2008, 13:08
We still use lemonade - in fact, my GP even suggests it. He has kids so probably knows that it's impossible to get the kids to drink Gastrolyte!

kkaz
29-09-2008, 08:42
I just happpened upon this on the WHO website.

It is a policy for "The selection of fluids and food for home therapy to prevent dehydration from diarrhoea"

http://whqlibdoc.who.int/hq/2005/WHO_CDD_93.44.pdf

You will note that the most important fluids recommended are those containing salt, such as Oral Rehydration Solution (Gastrolyte). Breastfeeding is also mentioned as a food that should be continued as well, but it is pretty clear from this document that an electrolyte-salt-containing solution is the first line therapy. :yes:

Sheer Bliss
29-09-2008, 11:07
We used to have flat lemonade too!!! :D

I agree that continuing to b/f is the best thing, the dr probably shouldn't have said that b/m doesn't contain eleoctrolytes if it does. But maybe the GP didn't know? Maybe she was giving info to the best of her knowledge? A phonecall/email to let her know what was found out might help her and other mums/bubs in the future. (nothing bad towards the OP - you have said you are happy with her, just shocked, this is more aimed at those getting excited about the topic :D)

When DD had gastro and a temp and we ended up at the hospy one sunday arvo - the first thing they did was give her a water ice-block. Not a peadilyte one, just a regular ice-block, as fluids are important too. They reccomended peadilyte when we went home, but first time parents, concerned that 1yo not drinking/weeing etc - had no idea of what to do. Funnily enough, she wouldn't drink it, but has a firm love for water ice-blocks now!!

littleleos
30-09-2008, 19:35
mmmmm after reading all this thread.... Iam having really bad hydrolyte cravings..

I love it... tastes yucky warm but if its cold really really cold.... tastes yummy

i miss night shift (NOT)
we used to have hydrolyte ice block eating comps in the kids ed where i used to work...

its amazing stuff... can often avoid having IVT after just 1 hr of hydrolyte... its amazing to see a pretty sicks kid have a few sips and then to be running around the play area...

sorry to crash the thread.... hmmm yummy