View Full Version : circumcision - YES or NO??? Why?
are you planning on getting your baby circumcised? why? why not?
did you get your child circumcised? why? why not?
just friendly info please - not after "why is circumcision better? or why is non circumcision better? just personal reviews on why you did or didn't get your child circumcised...
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LittleButton
24-09-2008, 07:37
I did, personal preference to healthy, easy to clean, plus medical issues.
LB
was it expensive? was it hard to find a dr who agreed to do it? how old was your son when he had it done?
lol - lots of questions i know - just thinking about a few things lately.
LittleButton
24-09-2008, 07:50
was it expensive? was it hard to find a dr who agreed to do it? how old was your son when he had it done?
lol - lots of questions i know - just thinking about a few things lately.
About 3 weeks I think if i remember correctly, 250$ Not too difficult to find a doctor, just hard to catch the right age group they'll do it for. Most doctors have a cut off age (excuse the pun) Where they just wont perform the procedure.
LB
lotsakids
24-09-2008, 07:54
i have 2 sons one is 14 one is 5 months my older boy is circumcised my younger one isn't. when my oldest one was done he was a week old and not alot of drs would do it even back then my 1st hubby was adament it be done i had no real objections but it was hard hearing him scream when it got done i cried and cried. my 2nd dh is dead against it so we didn't get our 5 month old done ultimately i dont have one of those things so i feel its one of the few decisisions i dont mind my dh making on his own.
my family are very pro circumcision and as my dh is english my mum says my baby has a pommy diddle lol my family have a strange sense of humour
Fuchsia!
24-09-2008, 07:59
No way, both my kids are intact as nature intended. I would not even consider it unless it was very medically necessary. As far as im concerned it is there skin and taking there skin off would be taking their rights away.
If they would like it circed they can decide for themselves
To answer your question why not?
1. It is not my skin to CUT off
2. It is un necessary to put a baby through that trauma and pain
3. It is un necessary full stop
4. Cause its the way nature intended
5. cause i think its wrong
6.did i say it was un necessary? Oh i did :p
kirikasmum
24-09-2008, 08:01
We did not as my dh is not and has no problems, as long as we teach him good personal hygine i dont think it will be a problem.
No.
I went against Xdp's entire Muslim family, put up with their threats because I wasn't putting my son through an unneccesary procedure.
BreakfastatTiffanys
24-09-2008, 08:23
No we didnt get ds circ'd. He is 8 now and never had any problems with infection.
As to why we didnt get him done.....dh was adamant that he wouldnt be. To be honest it was something that was done in my family, so I just presumed ds would be done YK. My dh quickly changed my opinion on that!!!. I am so glad that he did.....:yes:
I have two boys. Curcumcision was never even considered, let alone done:no:. Niether of them have ever had any issues what so ever.
As to your question for why, well IMO I think unless its for extreme medical reasons, it's totally unnessasary..
SassyMummy
24-09-2008, 08:54
I had a girl, so no, I didn't.
Were I to have had a son, I wouldn't have. I don't think it's necessary, and I had no opposition in the father as he wasn't done either.
Now I'm with a different guy, and he is done. I still stand by my decision to NOT have it done, but I know I will face opposition if we were to have a son together. His whole family do it... actually, they do lots of things I wouldn't choose to do (bottlefeed from birth, elective caesareans and circumcision... none of which I'm planning on doing with my next baby... they'll all be in for a nice shock when they hear of my plans to HBAC! :laughing:).
So I'm expecting that if we ever have children together, I'll meet some resistance in my choice not to.
Oh well.
No - Because my son has been through enough pain in his short life without me subjecting him to more.
Because I think it is unnecesary unless there is a medical problem.
Because it is not my body to modify.
Because I think he is perfect the way he is.
Because for a long time he had a suppressed immune system and the added infection risk would have been unnaceptable.
WarriorMummy
24-09-2008, 09:04
my ds1 was done at 3yrs due to medical reasons
it cost $850
and we needed to have private health cover to get a referal to the only doctor able to do it in townsville.
we didnt get him done when he was a baby because we couldnt find anyone to do it and we didnt look that hard, wasnt really a big issue
ds2 wasnt done because ds1 wasnt done, well that changed lol
ds3 wont be done as ds2 isnt and ds1 was done for medical reasons
Lillynix
24-09-2008, 09:08
My DS is intact. I didn't even entertain the idea of circumcision because...
It's unnatural
It's a modification to HIS body that I have NO right to make unless for real, valid medical reasons
It's painful, I don't care what anyone says, just because your child may appear fine, doesn't mean it didn't hurt like hell
It is of no benefit, routine infant circumcision is pointless
I wouldn't modify my daughters genitals, so I won't modify my sons
The chance of complication is just not worth the risk
Intact males are no less clean than cut males, provided they shower daily
NewBeginnings
24-09-2008, 09:13
No way, both my kids are intact as nature intended. I would not even consider it unless it was very medically necessary. As far as im concerned it is there skin and taking there skin off would be taking their rights away.
If they would like it circed they can decide for themselves
To answer your question why not?
1. It is not my skin to CUT off
2. It is un necessary to put a baby through that trauma and pain
3. It is un necessary full stop
4. Cause its the way nature intended
5. cause i think its wrong
6.did i say it was un necessary? Oh i did :p
My DS is intact. I didn't even entertain the idea of circumcision because...
It's unnatural
It's a modification to HIS body that I have NO right to make unless for real, valid medical reasons
It's painful, I don't care what anyone says, just because your child may appear fine, doesn't mean it didn't hurt like hell
It is of no benefit, routine infant circumcision is pointless
I wouldn't modify my daughters genitals, so I won't modify my sons
The chance of complication is just not worth the risk
Intact males are no less clean than cut males, provided they shower daily
:iagree::iagree: I completely agree with both these statements and could not have said it better myself!
This babies dad wants this baby done (why I don't know...) and I have told him in no uncertain terms where he can stick the idea!:yes:
MordecaiAliVanAllenO'Shea
24-09-2008, 10:57
My DS's are intact because there is nothing wrong with their foreskin so we see no reason to remove it, just as their tonsils and appendix will only be removed if they developing an ongoing problem that cannot be resolved without surgery. My Dad occasionally drops comments about problems uncirced men can have but it doesnt bother us as DH comes from a whole culture of uncirced men and we dont see them all having to line up for medical treatment for it.
JabberJaw
24-09-2008, 11:34
No my son isn't done and it is simply because it is not necessary, there is no medical reason for it to be done so why do it? My daughters aren't, so why should my son be?
It is old fashioned and if a child is circumcised these days they are defiantly the 'odd' ones out.
My mother grew up in the era of circumcision and tried to talk me into it, even offered to pay for it but i flat out refused. My partner is not circumcised either but even if he was there is no way anyone will be cutting anything off my sons doodle for no good reason other that aesthetics.
[text removed by moderator ]I am certainly glad that there is only a small amount of doctors that preform it for no valid reason.
If my child needed to have it done for medical reasons, then of course i would allow it.
Hopefully it will come down to 'medical reasons' only one day so poor children dont have to suffer this outrageous practice any longer.
It is not dirty or filthy or unclean to leave a foreskin intact, my son is 4 and is more than happy to clean his himself, My daughters also wash there on private parts.
My son was born with that bit of skin for a reason, to protect it and keep it clean, so therefore thats how it is going to stay.
ImSethsMum
24-09-2008, 12:09
My DS is done. Done due to a genetic medical condition in our family. Three anti-circ Peads recommend we get it done. No problems finding a Dr and due to the circumstances we got fitted in asap. DS was done at 3 weeks old. He didnt cry, I stood and watched at the door to make sure all was ok.
Oh and its not a cut, contrary to most peoples understanding. Nearly all are done using the plastibel method. Its not surgery, its a day proceedure (took no more than 10-15 min?). THe whole area is numbed using anaesthetic cream, then the plastibel is placed over the head and the strings tied around the foreskin, circulation is cut within 30 seconds (all while numb) and the natural process begins which ends in the plastibal and foreskin coming off in the nappy in a matter of days. Betadine cream is applied at each nappy change for about a week till the follow up appointment.
Cost was about $400 including the follow up appointment/s. Cream was about $30? Depending on if you've reached your medicare threashold depends what you get back, if you have reached it then its about $200 back.
When older boys need to be done for medical reasons surgery is often required which is painful cause not only are they emotionally aware, but they are physically aware and more likely to touch it. A 3 week old newborn cannot 'play' and isnt going through surgery.
If you do want to get it done (whatever your reasons) remember its your's and DP's choice, as parents we all make the best decisions we can for our kids based on our opinions, beliefs, reaseach and like me - medical recommendation.
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Good luck in your decision, whatever it will be :)
FiveInTheBed
24-09-2008, 12:27
Both my sons are done.
We took home all the pro's and con's that the midwife had handed out to us in our anti natal class. (she was non bias - simply informative)
We weighed them up, spoke to family and friends, other males in our life, done and not done!
And came to our own personal conclusion that we would have the boys circ'd/
We had to travel interstate so most of our cost came from travel & accommodation!
The plasti bell method was used. Was very happy with the procedure and the doctor. The boys cried a little bit ( I think mainly because they were thirsty, they suggest you don't feed them before hand so that immediately after you can comfort them with a boob.)
I think about $500 all up (Dr fee and day surgery fee, got some back on medi care - that figure escaped me sorry)
It's a very personal choice, and the sections in this area are great for getting both sides of the story...talking to real mums...not just reading a bit of paper.IYKWIM?
Good luck with your research :goodvibes:
cordz2911
24-09-2008, 12:33
No, I would never even contemplate having it done.
I suppose it is easier for me as my side and Dp's side of the family have never been "done"
Why,
basically the thought of "altering" my perfect son in any way makes me want to cry.
No.
There is absolutely no need whatsoever to put a baby through such unnecessary pain to remove a normal, functioning, necessary body part.
~Emmylou~
24-09-2008, 12:53
No WAY.
It wasn't something we reached through a decision making process - it was just something I decided in my gut, as his mother.
It's his penis. It works fine. There is just no reason to do anything to it and in the absence of any problem, his personal autonomy is his own. It is not my decision to make.
No I didn't circ any of my children. Nor would I.
It is unnecessary and I didnt want to inflict any kind of pain on my newborns.
It's not my decision to make. If they want it done when they are old enough to make decision for themselves then they are more than welcome to do it.
codswallop
24-09-2008, 14:35
no we arent getting Rowyn done but my families men are all hooded , my DH"s family are all done but he said he couldnt watch it so nope we are not getting it done
No I didn't with either of my boys. With DS1 it just wasn't something I even thought about tbh :o With DS2 I was more informed and had to argue it out with DF but he finally agreed with me that it just wasn't necessary.
secondtimearound2
24-09-2008, 15:13
Yes my Son has been done. He was only 5 days old. It is the done thing in my family. Every male in both our families have been done actually! The cost was around $300 but we got some back from medicare. Was easy finding a Dr to do it, actually we had quite a few options there.
I'm at school studying nursing atm and we have been doing clinical rounds. I have been in a hospital ED for the past 2 months and what a eye opener it has been!!! Let's just say I'm uuummm really glad I've done what I have done :o.
My eldest 3 boys were circumcised..... I regret it like you would not believe.... (not ready to tell that story yet) DS no.4 will not be circumsized....
It is a personal choice and i have researched endlessly to still believe that there is no 'medical' reason for it to be done in a healthy baby/child...
My friends 5 yo boy had reoccurring infections around the foreskin and circumcision was the option.... This is different.... and totally understandable....
Although i am against i don't push that on anyone else so i will tell you that i did not pay anything for the procedures... I found a paediatric surgeon who performed the procedure at the Royal Melbourne Hospital and was completely bulk billed.... I can not remember thought if this was due to me holding a Health Care Card.....
pinkgingham
24-09-2008, 15:50
-because its not my foreskin to cut off
-because why cut of something that is meant to be there?
-because saying that its more hygenic, looks better etc...is wrong. i have issues with people that say that. my kids arent unclean and i prefer uncircumcised men anyways as i think whats natural looks better.
-because i dont want to put my son through that much pain for mine or my ex's vain reasons.
-because i wouldnt circumcise my daughter, why would i do that to my son?
thank goodness we both are against it, and it has never come up with family or friends.
MaverickCowgirl
25-09-2008, 16:26
My DS is done, he was done at 8 months (never wait til that long again). The doctor I had do it used the ring thingy, and does up to 12 yrs of age. But under 3 weeks is the best time. It cost us $640 plus $40 for a follow up consult. But the younger the cheaper.
DH was done so we had him done, I think it looks better and is prolly cleaner, there is a long list of arguments for and against, I recommed doing whatever you want, there is about 50/50 so your child wont be that different
kristyNluke
25-09-2008, 16:46
both my sons were done they were both done at 2 weeks of age, the plastibelle method so no cutting ds1 was pretty much free as the docotor didnt charge just had to pay for the hospital which i cant remember to be honest he retired so i got a different doctor to do ds2 and it cost 300 and i got 170 back, with ds1 i got him done at a hospital they took him away and brought him back after the procedure with ds2 i got him done by a gp at the doctors surgery i had to be in with him and hold him while the doctor did it. i had no trouble finding people to do either of my sons i had lots of choices given to me by my very open gp, the reason i got my boys done was simply because everyone in my family and my partners family are done dp stronly wanted his children done and i think it in more hygenic i dont care how many people argue that one i believe it is true.
No my son is not done. I just couldn't ever inflict unnecessary pain on my child. If he needs it done later for medical reasons then he can get it done then and only then.
And just for the record, in case anybody cares, I don't GAF about what the nurses in the old folks home are going to think about his festy old foreskin :p
Nope, not my decision. :)
misskittyfantastico
25-09-2008, 19:32
No circumcision here.
Why? Because I've never heard a reason "for" that makes any sense to me.
Chunkydunks
25-09-2008, 19:52
Nope
Several reasons. DH isn't done and doesn't have problems. Proper hygiene should be taught so why do something to "make it easier". Why pay that much money to inflict pain on my child for an unnecessary reason? And you can't tell me it doesn't hurt. Both my nephews couldn't be held front on for a week afterwards and nappy change was a very tearful event. I couldn't stand the thought of my son going through that.
~Emmylou~
25-09-2008, 19:58
DH was done so we had him done, I think it looks better and is prolly cleaner, there is a long list of arguments for and against, I recommed doing whatever you want, there is about 50/50 so your child wont be that different
Actually that's not true. Nowhere near true.
The overall circ rate in Australia at the moment is 10%.
So that means that 9 out of every 10 boys are not circumcised.
neostudded
25-09-2008, 20:17
did you get your child circumcised?
My son is intact, so no he is not circumcised.
Why?
To many reasons I can list here.
But anyone who want's information about circumcision just PM me and I will be happy to help. I just want everyone to know thousand's of circumcised men are restoring their foreskin's non surgically.
Oh my son is very much "done". Complete and unaltered :yes:
miloand4
25-09-2008, 21:07
my ds1 is done I got him done because at the time it was still quiet common and there was a lot of preasure and no one telling me not to or why it would be a bad idea and I was young and thought that is what you did ( lack of education in the area) My ds2 is not done because my ds1 circ was done very badly they took to much skin and left him with serious injury and scarring was very upsetting and I am sad to say it took this to happen for me to know that it is wrong. We now have so much information available to us. I will forever feel guilty for doing this to ds1 and am glad I choose to not have ds2 done even though his father wanted him done. I would not recomend it to anyone as I always say just think how you would feel if you were that one in however many that it went badly for. Boys kinda need those bits!!!
Milliner
25-09-2008, 21:26
there is about 50/50 so your child wont be that different
I'm not sure who told you that but clearly they are uniformed on the subject. If you do a little research you will find that the circumcision rates in Australia are around 12% at the moment - a far cry from 50%. So, yes, if you have your child circumcised they will be different from the majority of boys their age.
And for the record my son and future sons will have their penis just the way it was intended, intact. No body modifications done to my voiceless children. :no:
I had a chat with another friend one day .. and we both decided that it would be silly to shorten (even by mm) something that most men measure :laughing:
nope .. my boys are both intact- they would have been circed .. except for bubhub (and my own mother! who asked me why on earth I thought it a good idea??? I honestly had no idea my brother WASN"T done - and I really think I didn't need to know .. :laughing:)
its only through threads on bubhub that I know its not necessary.
xx
JEn
neostudded
25-09-2008, 22:55
miloand4 If your son continues to have problems with lack of penile skin/skin mobility etc, there are ways to increase the amount of skin and undo some of the damage.
Lots of men who are restoring are very pleased with their results. I just thought I would mention it because restoration has helped so many men.
Thank you for sharing your story.:hugs:
MaverickCowgirl
26-09-2008, 08:30
When I got my DS done, I was given a pamphlet showing alot of statistics heavily supporting circ. Including the %, when I was in there they were doing alot of boys and that is one surgery. What I got out of it was that in the end alot of boys will end up having to be done anyway for medical reasons. I also know that while you can teach boys good hygiene they don't always do it, especially when they get to the independant age.
I don't understand why it is such a touchy subject. Parents have no probelm giving their children strange names (or strange spellings) they will be forever teased about or having to spell, or taking drugs, alcohol or smoking with and around their kids, teaching them to be disrespectful, concepts of religion, so why not make another decision as a parent. to do it or not. I let DH decide because it is a boy thing, and it will be him having to explain why DS's looks diffferent to daddy's if it wasn't done.
It doesn't shorten the penis while erect which is when men measure it as the foreskin comes back naturally when erect.
I'm sure no one really wants to hear this, i didn't either but I know my sis has problems with her bf (who is crazy about being clean) when she gives him oral sex if he has gone to the toilet (no matter how much he shakes and wipes) she gets the taste of urine. YUK. Made me consider that while it isn't 'natural' or as nature intended, alot of things we do in life is 'unnatural'. The bottle is one, we are given breasts yet people choose to bottle feed even though people jump up and down and promote breast is best. We are a society of conveniece and fashion. Who knows what impact having it done or not having it done will have on the child, hey it may not even make a difference to them, my BIL never knew he was done til he was 16, it was just his penis. :p
Nope, DS hasn't been done. Just didn't think there was any reason for it. DP (who incidentally has been circ'ed) thought there was no need either. I liked that he didn't insist.
BJsMummy
23-10-2008, 18:28
I dont have a penis and never will, DH made the choice not me and I was happy with what he chose
SuperGranny
23-10-2008, 20:16
hi, i have two sons, first born is circ, because we could not loosen the foreskin only open the tip very minium. We thought that could be a problem so when he was about one week old we chose to have him circ. Our second son had a very loose foreskin and it would draw back easy so we saw no need to have him circ. Whether we made the right choice or not, the decision was made with the best intentions, and neither son has had any trouble.
WorkingClassMum
23-10-2008, 20:20
DS isn't done
I couldn't find a good enough reason to do it
Happychappy
23-10-2008, 21:19
I think it is outrageous that people are still contemplating doing this to their sons.
Couple of reasons -:
1. How can anyone put a human at any age through the pain of having part of their body cut off without pain relief
2. The whole 'cleanliness' thing is a load of ****.......this came about when the war was on and men couldn't get to clean water to clean themselves, hence they were circumcised
3. If people use the excuse of religion then why don't girls have it done????
4. Why would you consider taking off the most sensitive part of a males sexual organs.
I am happy to listen to anyone's opinion but no-one to date has been able to give me a valid medical reason as to why this procedure should still be allowed :wave:
Nope- my DS is intact.
DH and I briefly discussed having him done - and I was very relieved when DH was adamant that DS was not being done. DH does not give a flying rat's patootie about DS looking like him (as DH is done) - he totally agreed with me about it being unnecessary unless there was something wrong.
jacksnjeff
28-10-2008, 18:11
Hi everyone,
As yet, we haven't had to make this decision with having a girl.
I have sisters and sister in laws that have had sons circ'd and not circ'd. Two of my sisters have not had there sons done and they each have probs with them. One keeps getting urine infections and there was talk about him being done at the age of 12 and my other sisters sons foreskin doesn't come back so they are using steroid cream to try and get it back and if it doesn't then theres a chance he needs to be done and he is 8. My other sister and my two sister in laws that have had it done have had no problems and the age range is 2 years to 17.
My hubby is done and he has never had any probs. I think we will get our son done if we have one, but when it comes to the crunch I don't know if I will be able to go through with it.
It is a very touchy subject, but at the end of the day I believe that we each do what we think is best for our child.
Good luck with your decision.
my personal pref is that my boys be like the majority of other boys their age, so they are both not circumcised
When I got my DS done, I was given a pamphlet showing alot of statistics heavily supporting circ. Including the %, when I was in there they were doing alot of boys and that is one surgery. What I got out of it was that in the end alot of boys will end up having to be done anyway for medical reasons. I also know that while you can teach boys good hygiene they don't always do it, especially when they get to the independant age.
I don't understand why it is such a touchy subject. Parents have no probelm giving their children strange names (or strange spellings) they will be forever teased about or having to spell, or taking drugs, alcohol or smoking with and around their kids, teaching them to be disrespectful, concepts of religion, so why not make another decision as a parent. to do it or not. I let DH decide because it is a boy thing, and it will be him having to explain why DS's looks diffferent to daddy's if it wasn't done.
It doesn't shorten the penis while erect which is when men measure it as the foreskin comes back naturally when erect.
I'm sure no one really wants to hear this, i didn't either but I know my sis has problems with her bf (who is crazy about being clean) when she gives him oral sex if he has gone to the toilet (no matter how much he shakes and wipes) she gets the taste of urine. YUK. Made me consider that while it isn't 'natural' or as nature intended, alot of things we do in life is 'unnatural'. The bottle is one, we are given breasts yet people choose to bottle feed even though people jump up and down and promote breast is best. We are a society of conveniece and fashion. Who knows what impact having it done or not having it done will have on the child, hey it may not even make a difference to them, my BIL never knew he was done til he was 16, it was just his penis. :p
This would have to be one of the best posts ive read in the circ threads. :yelclap:
Mummy2Noah
28-10-2008, 21:08
Yeppo my DS is circumsised and im glad I did it I wasnt very happy and dint wont to do it to start off with but I wonted Noah to be the same as all his mates I asked alot of mothers, friends and family also friends of friends and all of them had there sons done. Were I come from its still the most Popular thing to do and if your not done you are the odd one out which is the complete opposite info that I get from here!!:o)
When I got my DS done, I was given a pamphlet showing alot of statistics heavily supporting circ. Including the %, when I was in there they were doing alot of boys and that is one surgery. What I got out of it was that in the end alot of boys will end up having to be done anyway for medical reasons. I also know that while you can teach boys good hygiene they don't always do it, especially when they get to the independant age.
I don't understand why it is such a touchy subject. Parents have no probelm giving their children strange names (or strange spellings) they will be forever teased about or having to spell, or taking drugs, alcohol or smoking with and around their kids, teaching them to be disrespectful, concepts of religion, so why not make another decision as a parent. to do it or not. I let DH decide because it is a boy thing, and it will be him having to explain why DS's looks diffferent to daddy's if it wasn't done.
It doesn't shorten the penis while erect which is when men measure it as the foreskin comes back naturally when erect.
I'm sure no one really wants to hear this, i didn't either but I know my sis has problems with her bf (who is crazy about being clean) when she gives him oral sex if he has gone to the toilet (no matter how much he shakes and wipes) she gets the taste of urine. YUK. Made me consider that while it isn't 'natural' or as nature intended, alot of things we do in life is 'unnatural'. The bottle is one, we are given breasts yet people choose to bottle feed even though people jump up and down and promote breast is best. We are a society of conveniece and fashion. Who knows what impact having it done or not having it done will have on the child, hey it may not even make a difference to them, my BIL never knew he was done til he was 16, it was just his penis. :p
:iagree:..yup, great post :thumbsup:
bubbasmum
28-10-2008, 21:49
I was all for having ds circumcised before he was born. My problem was that I just couldnt bring myself to take him to get it done. I just kept thinking about the pain he would go through. I completely understand why people have their sons done but I realise its just not the right choice for me.
Mummy2Noah
28-10-2008, 22:02
I was all for having ds circumcised before he was born. My problem was that I just couldnt bring myself to take him to get it done. I just kept thinking about the pain he would go through. I completely understand why people have their sons done but I realise its just not the right choice for me.
I no exactley what you mean we drove 600kms to get DS done we got there and I chickened out started bawling my eyes out but my hubby wonted it done either way so I just had to wait to feed him as soon as it was done I felt terrible at the time but im happy with my decision now so thats the main thing!!:)
grass is always greener
28-10-2008, 22:22
3. If people use the excuse of religion then why don't girls have it done????
Unfortunatly there are some girls who get female circumcision. :no:
I have 2 sons and there is no way i would add a risk to their healthy lives for the sake of a few lessons in cleaniness. I think it is cruel and nasty to do it 'because it is what the rest of the family do' or ' because it could get infected'
I am yet to hear a valid reason for putting my son through un-necessary pain.
hayleysmummy
28-10-2008, 23:00
did you get your child circumcised? why? why not?
I didnt/wont my reason being that that is the way my son and daughter were born, I see no point in paying hundreds of dollars to watch a doctor inflict pain on my child or remove something from his or her body that is perfectly healthy
Each to their own though
I will add that I watched a friend of mines son go through the trauma of having his skin cut with scissors because it started to grow over the plastic ring they put on the poor little mite absoloutely screamed and it broke my heart :(
pinkishbunny
29-10-2008, 06:00
No way, both my kids are intact as nature intended. I would not even consider it unless it was very medically necessary. As far as im concerned it is there skin and taking there skin off would be taking their rights away.
If they would like it circed they can decide for themselves
To answer your question why not?
1. It is not my skin to CUT off
2. It is un necessary to put a baby through that trauma and pain
3. It is un necessary full stop
4. Cause its the way nature intended
5. cause i think its wrong
6.did i say it was un necessary? Oh i did :p
...:iagree:... with EVERYTHING you have said:) and obviously my answer is NO WAY in the world would I do that to my boys.
pinkishbunny
29-10-2008, 06:06
Yeppo my DS is circumsised and im glad I did it I wasnt very happy and dint wont to do it to start off with but I wonted Noah to be the same as all his mates I asked alot of mothers, friends and family also friends of friends and all of them had there sons done. Were I come from its still the most Popular thing to do and if your not done you are the odd one out which is the complete opposite info that I get from here!!:o)
I don't think I'd be doing it for THAT reason somehow.. because all your friend's had there son's done and that it's popular to do it where u live :confused:
nataliaandreecesmummy
29-10-2008, 09:15
Actually that's not true. Nowhere near true.
The overall circ rate in Australia at the moment is 10%.
So that means that 9 out of every 10 boys are not circumcised.
I am sorry but it is true that there is 50/50.. If you go to the doc loth and dr ruselle web site they state there is 50/50.. I have been looking into it all as we are getting our son done...
RedPanda
29-10-2008, 09:30
I don't care how many people are getting it done. It's not a fashion. If going with the majority is what my boys need to feel secure and confident, then I will have failed in my role as a parent. :(
Aquamarine
29-10-2008, 09:38
Not for my boys! Ouch
we are most certainly NOT getting our son done. Its unnessasary, and imo no different to female circ. Boys CAN clean properly and will if they experience what happens when you don't. My dh isnt done and has never had a problem and same with my little bro. As far as looking like Daddy and friends, you can explain to them why they're different and for religious reasons?, well there is already a large portion of the bible that is ignored already whats another one?
I also don't believe that its 50/50 a large majority of docters refuse to perform circs in Aust now. I know people who had to travel well over 2 hrs away to get done cause they couldnt find a doc locally.
No because its not necessary.
(Like lots of things actually)
I am sorry but it is true that there is 50/50.. If you go to the doc loth and dr ruselle web site they state there is 50/50.. I have been looking into it all as we are getting our son done...
I can assure you that circumcision in Australia is not 50/50.
You may want to do a little more research if that is what you believe.
JabberJaw
29-10-2008, 10:49
I am sorry but it is true that there is 50/50.. If you go to the doc loth and dr ruselle web site they state there is 50/50.. I have been looking into it all as we are getting our son done...
Ummm sorry to be rude but i think you have been highley miss informed actually::::
Australian paediatricians have discouraged the practice since the 1960s, and the incidence of circumcision steadily fell from over 70% of boys in the 1960s to 39% in 1980. In 2002 about 12% of young boys were circumcised Australia-wide but rates vary widely between states. Western Australia and Victoria have the lowest rates of around 5%, yet Queensland has the highest rate of 20%. More doctors in NSW and Queensland are willing to do circumcisions without good medical reason in spite of the clear directive of The Royal Australasian College of Physicians (RACP) in their Policy Statement on Circumcision:
After extensive review of the literature the RACP reaffirms that there is no medical indication for routine neonatal circumcision. The complication rate of neonatal circumcision is reported to be around 1% to 5% and includes local infection, bleeding and damage to the penis. Serious complications such as bleeding, septicaemia and meningitis may occasionally cause death.
The possibility that routine circumcision may contravene human rights has been raised because circumcision is performed on a minor and is without proven medical benefit.
Review of the literature in relation to risks and benefits shows there is no evidence of benefit outweighing harm for circumcision as a routine procedure in the neonate.
The entire document can be viewed on the RACP website.
taken from : http://www.birthjourney.com/circumcision.php
sam's mum
29-10-2008, 11:53
I am sorry but it is true that there is 50/50.. If you go to the doc loth and dr ruselle web site they state there is 50/50.. I have been looking into it all as we are getting our son done...
you realise that they are in the business of circumcising, they make their money from circumcising.
to answer the OP, none of my three children are circumcised. They are all still 100% as originally created. If any of them ever need surgery for medical reasons then we will take the needed action at the time. As adults if they want surgery, and can find a doctor willing to perform it when it isn't medically required, then that is their choice.
Milliner
29-10-2008, 12:55
I am sorry but it is true that there is 50/50.. If you go to the doc loth and dr ruselle web site they state there is 50/50.. I have been looking into it all as we are getting our son done...
You can't have looked very hard. 50/50 is far from reality.
A big no from me and my DH. He's intact and is happy that way.
nataliaandreecesmummy
30-10-2008, 13:42
I can assure you that circumcision in Australia is not 50/50.
You may want to do a little more research if that is what you believe.
I was only stating that out of all the info you can get that there is a few web pages that state 50/50.. I have done a fear heap of research thank you... You women are very happy tp put people down if they do some thing you don't like... If you are so big on not circ then how do u feel about the new laws stating u can end your pregenacy know at 24 weeks... See there is so we as parents don't agree on so why should we shoot each other in the foot becasue we don't agree on the same thing.... not trying to be mean here but it is so true...
There was a time when the hospital made the decision for you basically..cause it was there and offered....If circ was soooo awfull..then why aren't there protestors outside all the circ practisies...I know where my boys where circ'd is a well known place and NO destruction, graffitii, protesting ect....
It's just something to get picked on...like breastfeeding/ bottle feeding, disposables / clothies, christening/and leaving religion up to them...:ecomcity:
With all the abuse that goes on out there...there's more to worry about than this...which certainly (in MY sons case) has NOT affected my boys one little bit!
Just because we strongly disagree with the practice doesn't mean that we advocate wanton destruction of property nor that we would resort to the despicable bullying measures of other "anti" crowds.
It is legal. Unfortunately. We recognise this. We are trying to educate people away from the choice rather than sink to levels we find degrading.
nataliaandreecesmummy
30-10-2008, 16:36
There was a time when the hospital made the decision for you basically..cause it was there and offered....If circ was soooo awfull..then why aren't there protestors outside all the circ practisies...I know where my boys where circ'd is a well known place and NO destruction, graffitii, protesting ect....
It's just something to get picked on...like breastfeeding/ bottle feeding, disposables / clothies, christening/and leaving religion up to them...:ecomcity:
With all the abuse that goes on out there...there's more to worry about than this...which certainly (in MY sons case) has NOT affected my boys one little bit!
:iagree: Totally
I will circ, To me and my husband its the thing to do to our boy.
I was only stating that out of all the info you can get that there is a few web pages that state 50/50.. I have done a fear heap of research thank you... You women are very happy tp put people down if they do some thing you don't like... If you are so big on not circ then how do u feel about the new laws stating u can end your pregenacy know at 24 weeks... See there is so we as parents don't agree on so why should we shoot each other in the foot becasue we don't agree on the same thing.... not trying to be mean here but it is so true...
I was in no way "shooting you in the foot", nor putting you down.
I was simply pointing out that the information you have posted was incorrect.
Phyllis Stein
30-10-2008, 16:42
Just because we strongly disagree with the practice doesn't mean that we advocate wanton destruction of property nor that we would resort to the despicable bullying measures of other "anti" crowds.
It is legal. Unfortunately. We recognise this. We are trying to educate people away from the choice rather than sink to levels we find degrading.
Quite so.
It is far more about those yet to make the decision having access to the information and arguments against, than it is about those who've already made the decision being 'made' to feel bad. :)
*Circumsision* It always turns intooo arguments...:dizzy:
crazyaboutbubs
30-10-2008, 16:47
If I were to have a boy, i wouldn't get it done. I think if he wants it done when he's older he can choose that when it suits him. I would be hoping DP would be able to teach him how to keep it clean and clear of infection when he's old enough.
Sheer Bliss
30-10-2008, 17:28
No, I haven't had my son circ'd, and i won't be getting any future children circ'd.
Why? I don't believe plastic surgery is necessary on an infant just in case he gets an infection later in life. Ear infections/bladder infections are common, yet we don't remove ears or bladders. Vaginas are more difficult to keep clean and can smell more than an uncir'd penis, but we don't do any altering there either. We just accept that nature has it's reasons for things being created that way, i don't see a difference.
RedPanda
30-10-2008, 17:38
It's not about shooting other mothers in the foot. How do I feel about abortion at 24 weeks? That's a whole 'nother thread. However, I know I'd be furious if I'd been genetically altered at birth, without any medical need. I give my baby boys (and I have two) the respect that as a baby girl, I was LEGALLY entitled to. If they turn 18 and want to be circumcised, fine. I'll pay for it even. But it is their penis and their decision. I can no more decide that I want their penis "a certain way" than I can decide to get them permanently tattooed. To me, it's a permanent alteration of the body, and it's not my decision. It's certainly not my husband's.
I want my say on this 'issue'
My husband is done and I did not get our son done and if i have another they will not be getting done.
There is no medical evidence that suggests it to a necessary thing.
The cleaness debate is rubbish, so is the cancer and STD thing.
My husband still has to clean his and he is circumcised.
My friend got her little guy done and the only reason she give me was because her partner is and they wanted the little one to be the same. He was in a fair bit of pain when it was done.
Someone answer me, if having your breasts cut off at the age of 18 would stop you from getting cancer would you?
If my 2.5yr old had a problem with his and it was medically needed then yes I would after considering all the information.
Until that happens or should it happen then it wont even be up for discussion. My husband wanted it done but no way in hell----it is simple. I would chop his off if he felt the need to subject my baby to that.
I stand by my decision and that is that. I dont judge anyone who does get there boys done but I can't see the point unless there is a medical reason that is proven to do it.
secondtimearound2
31-10-2008, 22:09
lol, you don't understand perspective?
That information is clearly wrong.
Actually the 10-15% stats you get is RIC not circ in general! Find me a stat that is NOT RIC...which from memory is classed under 6 months. Many parents decide to do it when the boy is over 1 yr.
BTW it's quite annoying reading quote, quote, quote :rolleyes:
Milliner
31-10-2008, 22:12
Here's some stats
http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=6&id=71&Itemid=50
Like it or not - It's not the norm to get your child circ'd these days.
Phyllis Stein
31-10-2008, 22:56
I wanted the stats...you think they are wrong then prove it! You tend to say no it's only 10% then prove it! I personal don't give a rats but if your going to shot someone down... then have your prove Honey... from a reliable source not just some random web page!
All the medical literature (from peer reviewed journals) I've read points to a marked reduction in circ in recent times, fluctuating of course with intake of migrants from certain areas. I believe higher rates of circ do exist where populations of people of certain faiths or cultures dwell, but at a population level, I can't believe it would possibly be even close to 50/50.
BTW, the onus is just as much on you to provide data supporting your own case. I'm on dial up atm, so can't access any easily.
84zsazsa
31-10-2008, 23:01
are you planning on getting your baby circumcised? why? why not?
did you get your child circumcised? why? why not?
just friendly info please - not after "why is circumcision better? or why is non circumcision better? just personal reviews on why you did or didn't get your child circumcised...
:flowerz:
No I didnt circumcise my son when he was born this month (OCT)
Why??....I dont feel the need. Im a big believe in....why try and fix something that aint broken. I could never cut a piece of flesh from my childs body when it is simply not nescessary....:thumbsdown:....and evolution has put it there for a reason.
Danni
secondtimearound2
31-10-2008, 23:13
All the medical literature (from peer reviewed journals) I've read points to a marked reduction in circ in recent times, fluctuating of course with intake of migrants from certain areas. I believe higher rates of circ do exist where populations of people of certain faiths or cultures dwell, but at a population level, I can't believe it would possibly be even close to 50/50.
BTW, the onus is just as much on you to provide data supporting your own case. I'm on dial up atm, so can't access any easily.
:iagree: and not only male circ, female as well.
I have looked before but I could never find circ rates in general for every male in Australia. 50% could be close if you count every male in the country and get a % from that? It's only been the last 20 so years when they stopped RIC. I dare say there is many men over the age 20 + who are cired. Maybe that's where the 50 % comes in...meh who really knows!! :laughing:
Phyllis Stein
01-11-2008, 09:15
I have looked before but I could never find circ rates in general for every male in Australia. 50% could be close if you count every male in the country and get a % from that? It's only been the last 20 so years when they stopped RIC. I dare say there is many men over the age 20 + who are cired. Maybe that's where the 50 % comes in...meh who really knows!! :laughing:
In my reading, around 50% of Australian males are already circumcised, but the rate of pediatric circs being performed now is somewhere between 10-15%. In another 20-30 years, circed men will be in the definite minority, assuming current trends continue.
Circ my sons? Not a chance unless there were a very compelling medical reason, which luckily there was not. :)
Milliner
03-11-2008, 13:05
Ok, assignment done. Sitting back contributing nothing to the discussion but "nuh! That's not good enough" isn't really that productive.
BUT, anyway, I've had a little time this morning to ring around and google. I had a chat to medicare and these are the stats for last financial year as per Medicare - YES, I am aware that it does not include the people that have not claimed a Medicare rebate but it does give an indication of the number of babies that were done with the rebate.
Last year there were over 250,000 babies born in Australia
NSW 8,908
VIC 2,370
QLD 5,741
SA 1,422
WA 980
TAS 41
ACT 143
NT 58
Total = 19,663
So, if you work out the percentage it's a lot closer to 10% than 50% - right?
If anyone would like to know how to get a copy of these statistics from the government please pm me and I will be more than happy to PROVE it to you.
ButterflyMama
03-11-2008, 13:12
We will not circumcise our boys, if we have any.
We won't circumcise our girls, either.
It is completely unnecessary.
Dangerkitty
10-11-2008, 14:24
are you planning on getting your baby circumcised? why? why not?
did you get your child circumcised? why? why not?
:flowerz:
I have one son (2 yrs) and he was not circumcised. If the baby I am currently pregnant with is a boy, then he too will not be circumcised.
My reasons for this are as follows--
1. It is not my penis, my sexual pleasure nor my body.
2. He was born with it, it's there for a reason and I don't see a reason to cut it off.
3. I would never put him through unnecessary pain for the sake of what other people think should be done.
4. I am not into doing things that cause pain in order to be "the same as other boys"
5. I think that his penis is his most private part and for me to make a decision regarding that, or his sexual future is not my place.
Nope! I would never circumsize any sons of mine. I dont see the need to cause unessasary pain on a child. His penis - his choice not mine
JabberJaw
10-11-2008, 14:41
Ok, assignment done. Sitting back contributing nothing to the discussion but "nuh! That's not good enough" isn't really that productive.
BUT, anyway, I've had a little time this morning to ring around and google. I had a chat to medicare and these are the stats for last financial year as per Medicare - YES, I am aware that it does not include the people that have not claimed a Medicare rebate but it does give an indication of the number of babies that were done with the rebate.
Last year there were over 250,000 babies born in Australia
NSW 8,908
VIC 2,370
QLD 5,741
SA 1,422
WA 980
TAS 41
ACT 143
NT 58
Total = 19,663
So, if you work out the percentage it's a lot closer to 10% than 50% - right?
If anyone would like to know how to get a copy of these statistics from the government please pm me and I will be more than happy to PROVE it to you.
Excellent research, good work i always wondered the statistic, in actual number form, not just the rounded %.
Fuchsia!
10-11-2008, 18:55
wow look how many NSW does! I wonder why they have such a higher amount then the other larger states
mumto2puddles
10-11-2008, 18:59
we didn't because in our personal opinion it's not our place to do that to DS. It's his body etc etc. Like piercing DDs ears only on a much grander scale.......
Milliner
10-11-2008, 19:12
wow look how many NSW does! I wonder why they have such a higher amount then the other larger states
Religion. IMO
Milliner
10-11-2008, 19:27
Actually the 10-15% stats you get is RIC not circ in general! Find me a stat that is NOT RIC...which from memory is classed under 6 months. Many parents decide to do it when the boy is over 1 yr.
Well statistics would say that you are incorrect.
Last financial year the stats via Medicare - AGAIN - I realise it's not including people that did not claim via Medicare!
Males 6mths – 10 years - 3,965
2,213 of those claimed an anaesthetist fee
10 years + - 620
16 of those claimed - HAEMORRHAGE, arrest of, following circumcision requiring general anaesthesia
VS the 19,663 RIC performed.
So, the majority of circumcision are done within the first 6 months.
No way.
As somebody put so wisely in another thread, I didn't get his appendix removed either, in case one day he gets appendicitis...
jimmysmummy
11-11-2008, 22:02
No.
If I had a girl, I wouldn't have her bits removed. Why do the same to a boy?
I'm at school studying nursing atm and we have been doing clinical rounds. I have been in a hospital ED for the past 2 months and what a eye opener it has been!!! Let's just say I'm uuummm really glad I've done what I have done :o.
I understand what you mean, I have been an RN for 13 years and have seen some horrible infections with intact foreskins, however the child I nursed in NICU was there as a result of being circumcised and almost died. I looked at those parents and thought if he didn't make it what would you say.....'we just wanted him to look like daddy' or 'we wanted to stop him getting an infection later'? A lot to think about.
LittleButton
12-11-2008, 17:26
When I got my DS done, I was given a pamphlet showing alot of statistics heavily supporting circ. Including the %, when I was in there they were doing alot of boys and that is one surgery. What I got out of it was that in the end alot of boys will end up having to be done anyway for medical reasons. I also know that while you can teach boys good hygiene they don't always do it, especially when they get to the independant age.
I don't understand why it is such a touchy subject. Parents have no probelm giving their children strange names (or strange spellings) they will be forever teased about or having to spell, or taking drugs, alcohol or smoking with and around their kids, teaching them to be disrespectful, concepts of religion, so why not make another decision as a parent. to do it or not. I let DH decide because it is a boy thing, and it will be him having to explain why DS's looks diffferent to daddy's if it wasn't done.
It doesn't shorten the penis while erect which is when men measure it as the foreskin comes back naturally when erect.
I'm sure no one really wants to hear this, i didn't either but I know my sis has problems with her bf (who is crazy about being clean) when she gives him oral sex if he has gone to the toilet (no matter how much he shakes and wipes) she gets the taste of urine. YUK. Made me consider that while it isn't 'natural' or as nature intended, alot of things we do in life is 'unnatural'. The bottle is one, we are given breasts yet people choose to bottle feed even though people jump up and down and promote breast is best. We are a society of conveniece and fashion. Who knows what impact having it done or not having it done will have on the child, hey it may not even make a difference to them, my BIL never knew he was done til he was 16, it was just his penis. :p
Extreamly well said! :iagree:
Christine T
14-11-2008, 02:33
No way. Why would anyone perform an unnecessary surgery?
Papillion
14-11-2008, 20:17
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngmumof6 http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=3074581#post3074581)
are you planning on getting your baby circumcised? why? why not?
did you get your child circumcised? why? why not?
:flowerz:
Not sure if we're having a boy or girl yet, but we've had the discussion. DH wanted a circ for a boy because he thought it prevented penile cancer and the "same as daddy" thing. I wasn't sure what was best so I wanted to make my decision based on good solid research and as many facts I could find. What I found was that the rates of death due to circumcision are MUCH higher than due to penile cancers :eek:. That was enough for me, but I searched further to discuss with DH and found that modern research (which takes into account the other risk factors) shows no difference in penile cancer rates between the anatomically complete and circs (I thought as DH did that circ prevented penile cancer - but it doesn't, and the biggest risk factor is smoking!). The risks of serious infections are also too low to outway the risk of serious infection or death due to a circ for me. I'll be doing similar research to decide on each of the vaccinations for my child.
Well that was my "what choice is the best for my child" sensible research, but I had to stop when I saw photos of a baby that developed a serious infection from a circumcision using the plastibell method (btw - stats suggest this isn't the safest circ method). The photos of the surgery done to the child to save his life were horrific.
NibbleCurlynBub
14-11-2008, 20:19
Yes, I did plan on it.
No, I didn't end up doing it.
I figure he can do it later, but he can't re-attach it later if he so chooses for that. Its not an issue any more.
daemynsmum
15-11-2008, 11:13
i'd like some clarification on why arguements start at the mention of circ'ing it is every pparents individual choice regardless of why they chose/choose it.
every parent who choses for or against does so with thier childs well-being/health/social/religious/emotional/family factors in mind.
i don't see the sense in arguing about stats because in the end regardless of what the stats are -- it's still a decision to be made whether you are for or against.
if you are dead set against you have already made the decision. if you are for or a maybe most people will collect the info most relevant to the issue not stats.
btw my son isn't circ'd but it was an option for me. my younger bro and my dad both have serious medical problems with thier foreskins. but so far teaching my 2yo slowly good hygiene is working out. but either way its a personal decision!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:yes:
MamaKoala
15-11-2008, 11:31
I had DS1 done at 6 weeks old and DS2 at 10 months old. Their father and I made the decision mostly because of the lowered risk of contracting STD's and for hygiene as well as cultural reasons pertaining to his family. There was only one Doc in qld near me who performed them and it was costly ($400) but it was simple and quick and I don't think they're going to come to me when they're older and cry about me doing that to them. I have never heard a circumsised man telling me he wished his parents had never done it but I have heard uncircumsised men tell me they wished their parent's had. And some who are happy being uncircumsised. It's a personal choice and I really don't think it is something that should cause parents to make personal attacks on other parents for.
kristyNluke
15-11-2008, 11:44
both my ds were done at 3 weeks of age i had no problem finding a doctor to do it i just told my gp i wanted it done and he gave me a heap of names, it cost around 250 dollars the reason dp and i decided to get it done was because dp is circed and also the hygene reason i didnt want to put my sons through un necessery pain later in life due to infection when they could get a simple procedure done when they are to young to remember. :)
Milktini
15-11-2008, 18:42
Personal choice, But defientley not for us :)
Both our boys are uncirc'ed, TBH, the topic never came up until DS1 was about 6 months old when MIL asked us. We had never spoken about it together but answered "No" at the same time. Decision made.
DS2 - we never brought up the subject and never will.
Different stokes for different folks, it's not my child, no judgement here.
One of my brother's is, the other is not. The brother that is... he was done at the age of 7, due to a dangerous infection that made it very hard for him to urinate. To the point where he couldn't. Needless to say, I will watch my boys for the same thing and hope to god it doesn't happen. I have been teaching our 4 yr old how to keep it clean.
Up until then, My parents chose not to circ their boys, back in the 80's it was very uncommon NOT to circ your boys :eek:
sweetsugardumplin'
16-11-2008, 12:54
[QUOTE]I don't understand why it is such a touchy subject.
I think for those who are anti circ, the idea of inflicting unecessary pain on a baby is abhorrent!
Parents have no probelm giving their children strange names (or strange spellings) they will be forever teased about or having to spell, or taking drugs, alcohol or smoking with and around their kids, teaching them to be disrespectful, concepts of religion, so why not make another decision as a parent. to do it or not.
Teaching and exposing children to your values and morals is quite different to actually removing a part of their anatomy, me thinks :rolleyes:
I let DH decide because it is a boy thing, and it will be him having to explain why DS's looks diffferent to daddy's if it wasn't done.
This arguement always baffles me, show me a boy whose penis looks like his Daddy's. We are talking size, pubic hair, colour. By the way my DD's vagina doesn't look anyhting like mine, and probably never will! But I would never have it modified so it does.........now that would be wrong!
I'm sure no one really wants to hear this, i didn't either but I know my sis has problems with her bf (who is crazy about being clean) when she gives him oral sex if he has gone to the toilet (no matter how much he shakes and wipes) she gets the taste of urine. YUK.
Has he not heard of washing!!!! To me that's just manners :yes:
And, no, there was no way I would circ my DS. Not my body, not my choice :no:
MrsMiggins
16-11-2008, 12:58
We chose not to have it done as we feel it is purely cosmetic & did not wish to subject our son to unnecessary surgery at such a young age.
MumTotzlj
20-11-2008, 22:52
DS is done, but before i had him done i researched it, mostly because i was against it and thought like the women on here that it isnt my body to cut pieces off. but during my research i found out that being circ can help to prevent STD's and AIDS, also helping to prevent infections. the finally thing that made me decided was that my nephew who was 3 or 4 at the time had to have it done due to infection he was in pain regularly because of it and i didn't want my DS going though that pain.
i have spoken to men who have it done and men who haven't i have yet to find one that didn't like the way 'it' is.
from memory i think it cost about 300 or 400$.
DS was around the 6 mth mark because i couldn't decide to do it of not and kept cancelling the appts. he isnt going to remember it.
if this bub is a boy i will get him done early.
when i was having him done a man was there that had his done in his 70's he couldn't walk for weeks afterwards, and a boy about 7 had it done just before DS and walked out of the room smiling.
Christine T
22-11-2008, 01:25
DS is done, but before i had him done i researched it, mostly because i was against it and thought like the women on here that it isnt my body to cut pieces off. but during my research i found out that being circ can help to prevent STD's and AIDS, also helping to prevent infections. the finally thing that made me decided was that my nephew who was 3 or 4 at the time had to have it done due to infection he was in pain regularly because of it and i didn't want my DS going though that pain.
i have spoken to men who have it done and men who haven't i have yet to find one that didn't like the way 'it' is.
from memory i think it cost about 300 or 400$.
DS was around the 6 mth mark because i couldn't decide to do it of not and kept cancelling the appts. he isnt going to remember it.
if this bub is a boy i will get him done early.
when i was having him done a man was there that had his done in his 70's he couldn't walk for weeks afterwards, and a boy about 7 had it done just before DS and walked out of the room smiling.
You should have done some more research. Yes, there have been studies done showing benefits but they were flawed. Circumcision offers no protection from any diseases. First off the studies to do with HIV were in Africa. If you compare a country with a high rate of circumcision and one with a low rate , there is no difference in terms of HIV rates and STI's - in fact it is higher in the USA than anywhere else.
Alisonmumof3
24-11-2008, 11:44
Neither of my sons are circumcised, but I am always vigilant in making sure they retract their foreskin & clean their "doodle". I think making sure they learn good personal hygiene should keep any infections at bay. I do have a friend who circumcised her son as there is a history of early dementia in her family and as she works in aged care she was concerned that he may have problems later on as infections in uncircumcised elderly people is apparently quite common for uncircumcised patients
bubontheway2029
18-12-2008, 09:05
We're both jewish so we'll be circumcising our boy :wave:
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