View Full Version : did you circumsize your DAUGHTER?
La Que Sabe
16-09-2008, 10:11
i'm just interested to see whether any body on here has done it =]
i know some cultures do, but don't think it's common here...
NO WAY IN HELL !
Why would i
. why would you?.....:no: (not directed at the OP)
Something which Amnesty International and other organizations over the world (even Oprah!!!!) are trying to stop.... a painful thing to inflict FULL STOP!!!!.........
jennababe
16-09-2008, 10:21
im hoping that kinda thing doesnt happen in this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
La Que Sabe
16-09-2008, 10:23
i haven't and wouldn't do it to my daughter either, just thought i'd add =]
~Temet Nosce~
16-09-2008, 10:24
O_o
no way.
honeydew
16-09-2008, 10:24
I voted 'other' because my daughter isn't born yet but NO WAY would this EVER be an option for me :no:
We also didn't circ our son (despite DH being circ'd) because I am so against it.
Mummy to Mason -
I circumcised my eldest 3 boys and i so blOody wish i hadn't.... Stupid young and uninformed mother i was who listened to stupid uninformed people.... (ex Hub and his parents :banghead:)
DS4 will NOT be and my lovely DF is against it also...
I know we are talking male circumcision and i don't want to offend anyone.... I know that in some cases is has to be done for extreme medical reasons....
Sorry.... back to the topic....
honeydew
16-09-2008, 10:33
Mummy to Mason -
I circumcised my eldest 3 boys and i so blOody wish i hadn't.... Stupid young and uninformed mother i was who listened to stupid uninformed people....
:hugs::hugs::hugs:
maisymum
16-09-2008, 10:34
OMG! I don't even want to think about it!!!!!
Milliner
16-09-2008, 11:45
No, I do not accept RIC for either sex. :shame:
shelle65
16-09-2008, 11:55
It is illegal in Australia to either circumsise a girl or arrange for a girl to be taken overseas to be circumcised. There are serious criminal penalties for doing either.
NibbleCurlynBub
16-09-2008, 11:57
No, I didn't.
mum_inlove
16-09-2008, 12:06
No I didn't circ both ds and dd, even though in my culture both should have been circ, more for boys than girls tho'. So sooner than later I'm gonna get comment as of why I don't get ds done. Both me and dh agree we'll leave the decision to him.
ButI got circ'd when I was a baby, while I never questioned before. Since I've been in Aust, I often wondered whether it would be a huge difference if I wasn't.
Lillynix
16-09-2008, 16:03
why would you?.....:no: (not directed at the OP)
Something which Amnesty International and other organizations over the world (even Oprah!!!!) are trying to stop.... a painful thing to inflict FULL STOP!!!!..........
It is illegal in Australia to either circumsise a girl or arrange for a girl to be taken overseas to be circumcised. There are serious criminal penalties for doing either.
And yet, it is perfectly acceptable and even legal, to circumcise our sons...go figure :barf:
But no, no circumcising in this household. Not my body, not my right to modify it.
Seacretsquirrel
16-09-2008, 19:17
No way in hell would I do it to my daughter (or a son for that matter)
However I did an assignment on a contraversial (sp) issue in yr 12 (yikes that was 11 yrs ago)
and then it was still being performed in Aust hospitals and I do think that if the decision has been made to do it it is far better for it to be done in a sterile env with propper care than in a back alley with rusty equipt and no anesthetic....
Fuchsia!
16-09-2008, 19:22
And yet, it is perfectly acceptable and even legal, to circumcise our sons...go figure :barf:
But no, no circumcising in this household. Not my body, not my right to modify it.
I agree, its still amazes me that males are still allowed. I really do not see the difference. Both should be illegal unless for extreme medical reasons
pinkgingham
16-09-2008, 19:25
i find it interesting that people find it quite ok to circumcise a boy but its not OK when its done on girls. to me its the same thing and neither should be done.
While I agree that circ is terrible, I doubt anyone would come on here and say they circ their daughter and are proud etc. If I had, I would be too scared.
I don't think you will get a 'true' response if someone has circ, they will most likely not admit it if they are in Aust
mum_inlove
16-09-2008, 19:39
Honey, I hope your circumcision was not as devastating as some of the female circumcisions done in other cultures.
I actually hope the same. I used to think that circ for both boys and girls are the 'normal' thing. Since I learnt that it was not, I often wondered what they had actually done to me, whether I am missing a big part of my body, because I don't know any different, ykwim? I don't resent my mum because in a way I think she only got me done because she must have thought it was the way it supposed to be.
But I'm glad I'm here and don't have to make the decision for them.
Duchessa
16-09-2008, 19:44
No I didn't circ both ds and dd, even though in my culture both should have been circ, more for boys than girls tho'. So sooner than later I'm gonna get comment as of why I don't get ds done. Both me and dh agree we'll leave the decision to him.
ButI got circ'd when I was a baby, while I never questioned before. Since I've been in Aust, I often wondered whether it would be a huge difference if I wasn't.
:yelclap: You are an inspiration. Good on you for throwing off your enculturation and having the intelligence and compassion not to continue the practice. And :hugs: you are very candid, you teach us all.
Mummy to Mason -
I circumcised my eldest 3 boys and i so blOody wish i hadn't.... Stupid young and uninformed mother i was who listened to stupid uninformed people.... (ex Hub and his parents :banghead:)
DS4 will NOT be and my lovely DF is against it also...
I know we are talking male circumcision and i don't want to offend anyone.... I know that in some cases is has to be done for extreme medical reasons....
Sorry.... back to the topic....
Can I just ask why you're against it, I know nothing about circumcision and an just curious...DH wants our future son to be circ. He says its more hygenic. I am not too fussed though.
Its just you seem very stern about it now. :confused:
MissSookyLaLa
16-09-2008, 19:50
hahah i selected no then realised i dont have a DD
julietv8
16-09-2008, 19:50
Shiraaa, please don't just circumcise your son because your husband says its more hygienic (which its not). Can I suggest doing some research into it, there is plenty of information available in the circumcision section here. If you make the decision to circ your son, make it an informed one.
~*clairesmum*~
16-09-2008, 19:57
no way would i do that to my lil princess or my lil prince
There are a few off topic posts in this thread. If you want to discuss other general circ issues, please feel free to start a new thread for them. This is not the thread to talk about general circ issues.
I also want to remind ppl of the guidelines for language (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=120819) used when posting in any of the circ sections. Some earlier posts have been edited, any more in this thread that require editing will receive infractions.
Thanks
mum_inlove
16-09-2008, 20:08
MumInLove,
Most Dads who are done want their boys done so they look the same.
:iagree:, when I was pregnant with ds, I still wanted to have him done for the cultural reason. Dh also wanted to have him done (because dh got done when he was a child for medical reason), so that he would look like dad.
His parents even though they against it unless it was really medically necessary (like dh was), respect my cultural believe and leave the decision to both of us.
However, when ds was born, to circ ds was the last thing in our mind, and as he was getting older we (especially dh) just couldn't imagine getting him done. So that's when we come up to decision that it was his body, once he is smart and wise to make the decision, we'll support him either way.
pinkgingham
16-09-2008, 20:22
sorry xkwizit, i was just reiterating what others said, so was just trying to use it in context to what was already been said...but duly noted and will adhere to the guidelines from now on :thumbsup:
well, i am glad that at least female circumcision isnt commonly accepted here. although i wish it were the same for both male and female. i respect that others make different choices for their children though so i wont say much more than i am against it for whatever reason.
iamLilysmummy
16-09-2008, 20:38
who would do that...:no:
no way in the world..
if i had a son i wouldnt circumsizebhim either!!!
Can I just ask why you're against it, I know nothing about circumcision and an just curious...DH wants our future son to be circ. He says its more hygenic. I am not too fussed though.
Its just you seem very stern about it now. :confused:
Hun.... It's a very long story... One that i will share one day.... Still hurts...
I will stress this to you..... There is no medical reason for a healthy boy to have a circumcision. NONE!!!.... It's all down to personal choice.... One made in most cases because they are uninformed or feel pressured by a partner or 'others' to do so...
When there are extreme cases where circumcision is deemed to be the only consideration then this is unavoidable and doesn't enter my debate...
Circumcision should not be considered for a 'just in-case' reason.... It's not a valid one and there is research (credible) to back this up....
If at the end of the day you do agree to go ahead and you are 100% comfortable with your decision then i am not here to judge you... All i will say is I will never put another child through such an ordeal again..... and i sleep better at night knowing that more parents are doing their research and making informed decisions... One's that they have to live with..... and more importantly their children....
Electric Mumi
17-09-2008, 04:07
NO WAY!!!
And no way would I with a boy either. You are born like that..so why fix something thats not broken???? Would you cut ur pinky finger off because u dont neeed it often or because it gets alot of dirt under it??
Ys_Woman
17-09-2008, 13:36
I voted NO.
I would never circumcise my girls as it would serve no medical purpose to remove the clitoris, as opposed to removing a boy's foreskin to protect him from infection, in particular, Balanitis Xerotica Obliterans (a non-predictable, unstoppable condition that occurs in around 15%* of boys and requires emergency circumcision to a very damaged penis). Good info in Wikipedia.org for anyone interested.
Amy:)
*statistic given by the paediatric surgeon who performed such an operation on our (then) 7yr old son.
kiwibird27
05-10-2008, 17:23
You are kidding right.....I couldn't think of anything more horrific..... untrue about less chance of STD's....... Can't believe a doctor in Australia would actually do it?????
kiwibird27
05-10-2008, 17:27
Yes we had our daughter circumcised at a local doctor.
When we asked our doctor for a referal, we were blasted away, but oh no, we didn't let that get in our way.
We know other parents who have had it done, so that really soothed our worrying about getting it done. We took her to the doctor and he put some anaesthetic on her vagina. That totally makes it more ethical, because you know that it must be ethical if your daughter isn't screaming out in agony when it's occuring. The fact that there was no cutting involved (and that her clitorous simply "fell off" a couple of days later) just makes it easier to stomach and is simply much more socially acceptable, with out a doubt.
Besides, there's a whole pile of medical justifications for doing it. Apparently girls who have been circumcised are less likely to get infections & STD's. It makes it a whole lot cleaner as well.
... And you know what? If girls don't get it done when they are babies then they will just have to get it done when they are older. The younger the better I say.
Another reason was we wanted our daughter to look like mummy.
( Ring any bells? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Why is it that THIS post, is seen as absurd, but the exact same comments made by parents about their sons is NOT?)
Okay I get it now!!!!! (thanks for the edit) I agree no circ is right!!!
canberramomma
05-10-2008, 17:42
No I didn't circ both ds and dd, even though in my culture both should have been circ, more for boys than girls tho'. So sooner than later I'm gonna get comment as of why I don't get ds done. Both me and dh agree we'll leave the decision to him.
ButI got circ'd when I was a baby, while I never questioned before. Since I've been in Aust, I often wondered whether it would be a huge difference if I wasn't.
I know it goes on here and I'm very sorry that it happened to you. I know it is often a cultural ceremony performed because religious and cultural leaders deem it important and it is often done under extremely unsanitary and terrifying circumstances. Good on you and your hubby for breaking the cycle, hon.
Fuchsia!
05-10-2008, 17:42
Okay I get it now!!!!! (thanks for the edit) I agree no circ is right!!!
:laughing: I was godsmacked when i 1st read it and then i read the last bit! Great post, its so true :yelclap:
chicky2lala
05-10-2008, 17:50
Yes we had our daughter circumcised at a local doctor.
When we asked our doctor for a referal, we were blasted away, but oh no, we didn't let that get in our way.
We know other parents who have had it done, so that really soothed our worrying about getting it done. We took her to the doctor and he put some anaesthetic on her vagina. That totally makes it more ethical, because you know that it must be ethical if your daughter isn't screaming out in agony when it's occuring. The fact that there was no cutting involved (and that her clitorous simply "fell off" a couple of days later) just makes it easier to stomach and is simply much more socially acceptable, with out a doubt.
Besides, there's a whole pile of medical justifications for doing it. Apparently girls who have been circumcised are less likely to get infections & STD's. It makes it a whole lot cleaner as well.
... And you know what? If girls don't get it done when they are babies then they will just have to get it done when they are older. The younger the better I say.
Another reason was we wanted our daughter to look like mummy.
( Ring any bells? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Why is it that THIS post, is seen as absurd, but the exact same comments made by parents about their sons is NOT?)
:yelclap::yelclap::yelclap:
sweetsugardumplin'
05-10-2008, 22:05
Yes we had our daughter circumcised at a local doctor.
When we asked our doctor for a referal, we were blasted away, but oh no, we didn't let that get in our way.
We know other parents who have had it done, so that really soothed our worrying about getting it done. We took her to the doctor and he put some anaesthetic on her vagina. That totally makes it more ethical, because you know that it must be ethical if your daughter isn't screaming out in agony when it's occuring. The fact that there was no cutting involved (and that her clitorous simply "fell off" a couple of days later) just makes it easier to stomach and is simply much more socially acceptable, with out a doubt.
Besides, there's a whole pile of medical justifications for doing it. Apparently girls who have been circumcised are less likely to get infections & STD's. It makes it a whole lot cleaner as well.
... And you know what? If girls don't get it done when they are babies then they will just have to get it done when they are older. The younger the better I say.
Another reason was we wanted our daughter to look like mummy.
( Ring any bells? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Why is it that THIS post, is seen as absurd, but the exact same comments made by parents about their sons is NOT?)
My heart stopped when I read this.
And I totally agree with you, WHY?
Mum&bubs
05-10-2008, 22:10
Hell to the NO :no::no::no:
Chunkydunks
05-10-2008, 22:14
i said other but only because I don't have a daughter yet. but there is no way in hell any child of mine is having bits removed for no reason.
That's the thing that I don't get, everyone is so angry about female circumcision, it is illegal in Australia. And yet....it is okay to do it to males. Are female genitals and sexual pleasure more important than males?
MotherNurture
08-10-2008, 14:42
No daughters, but I wouldn't cut the genitals of either gender. It's an equality issue; their body, their sexuality, their choice. I cannot fathom it being ethical to cut part of my child's sex organs off without a pressing, urgent, absolutely necessary medical indication.
MotherNurture
08-10-2008, 14:44
Yes we had our daughter circumcised at a local doctor.
When we asked our doctor for a referal, we were blasted away, but oh no, we didn't let that get in our way.
We know other parents who have had it done, so that really soothed our worrying about getting it done. We took her to the doctor and he put some anaesthetic on her vagina. That totally makes it more ethical, because you know that it must be ethical if your daughter isn't screaming out in agony when it's occuring. The fact that there was no cutting involved (and that her clitorous simply "fell off" a couple of days later) just makes it easier to stomach and is simply much more socially acceptable, with out a doubt.
Besides, there's a whole pile of medical justifications for doing it. Apparently girls who have been circumcised are less likely to get infections & STD's. It makes it a whole lot cleaner as well.
... And you know what? If girls don't get it done when they are babies then they will just have to get it done when they are older. The younger the better I say.
Another reason was we wanted our daughter to look like mummy.
( Ring any bells? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Why is it that THIS post, is seen as absurd, but the exact same comments made by parents about their sons is NOT?)
Fantastic post; point well made.
mumofKieran
20-10-2008, 18:03
I am NOT defending male circumcision when I say this (our son is not circumcised if that makes it any clearer) but I want to point out that male and female circumcision are slightly different, and IMO female circumcision is worse: the clitoris is the female equivalent of the penis and as such contains the nerve endings essential for reaching orgasm. Because of this, removing the clitoris is equivalent to amputating the entire penis, not just removing the foreskin. So while I don't agree with male circumcision, I don't think they are totally comparable.
neostudded
20-10-2008, 18:24
There are different ways to circumcise a female.
Bunnyhugs
31-10-2008, 21:20
Yes we had our daughter circumcised at a local doctor.
When we asked our doctor for a referal, we were blasted away, but oh no, we didn't let that get in our way.
We know other parents who have had it done, so that really soothed our worrying about getting it done. We took her to the doctor and he put some anaesthetic on her vagina. That totally makes it more ethical, because you know that it must be ethical if your daughter isn't screaming out in agony when it's occuring. The fact that there was no cutting involved (and that her clitorous simply "fell off" a couple of days later) just makes it easier to stomach and is simply much more socially acceptable, with out a doubt.
Besides, there's a whole pile of medical justifications for doing it. Apparently girls who have been circumcised are less likely to get infections & STD's. It makes it a whole lot cleaner as well.
... And you know what? If girls don't get it done when they are babies then they will just have to get it done when they are older. The younger the better I say.
Another reason was we wanted our daughter to look like mummy.
( Ring any bells? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Why is it that THIS post, is seen as absurd, but the exact same comments made by parents about their sons is NOT?)
I don't think this quote helps anyone but yourself.
twotrunks
31-10-2008, 21:31
I have just been sitting here wondering why the three people who voted "yes" haven't discussed their decision... or have I missed it? But then I realised, it is illegal, so they would probably be risking themselves if they talked about it. Is that right?
TT
jaydensmum
31-10-2008, 21:59
No Bloody way!!! :no::no:
Crazyfamily
31-10-2008, 23:15
no. not my boys either
Dangerkitty
10-11-2008, 14:38
Yes we had our daughter circumcised at a local doctor.
When we asked our doctor for a referal, we were blasted away, but oh no, we didn't let that get in our way.
We know other parents who have had it done, so that really soothed our worrying about getting it done. We took her to the doctor and he put some anaesthetic on her vagina. That totally makes it more ethical, because you know that it must be ethical if your daughter isn't screaming out in agony when it's occuring. The fact that there was no cutting involved (and that her clitorous simply "fell off" a couple of days later) just makes it easier to stomach and is simply much more socially acceptable, with out a doubt.
Besides, there's a whole pile of medical justifications for doing it. Apparently girls who have been circumcised are less likely to get infections & STD's. It makes it a whole lot cleaner as well.
... And you know what? If girls don't get it done when they are babies then they will just have to get it done when they are older. The younger the better I say.
Another reason was we wanted our daughter to look like mummy.
( Ring any bells? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Why is it that THIS post, is seen as absurd, but the exact same comments made by parents about their sons is NOT?)
:yelclap:
Could not have written this better myself. We get up in arms, call police, scream and holler at the thought of girls being done, but boy--no worries. Go right ahead and do it and no one sees a problem.
:thumbsdown:
Female circ doesn't have to be full removal of the clitoris.
There are also procedures similar to male circumcision for females. It's called a hoodectomy. It is removing the exact same skin as the foreskin in men. This is done to enhance sexual pleasure in women. I know of a few people who have done this to their daughters at a very young age.
I often wonder if it would be as widely accepted as male circumcision.
chicky2lala
22-11-2008, 11:35
I have just been sitting here wondering why the three people who voted "yes" haven't discussed their decision... or have I missed it? But then I realised, it is illegal, so they would probably be risking themselves if they talked about it. Is that right?
TT
I was wondering that too.I guess also they feel they would be attacked over their opinion.
God no, the thought never entered my mind.
I do respect other cultures though and if this is what they do, then thats what they do. They don't know any different and have been doing it for hundreds of years.
I have an african friend from work who was done and she told me all about it. I cried for her. I feel so sad that she had to experience it.
Samaras Mummy
24-11-2008, 16:50
No.
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