Septemberry Mum & Bubs Chat - September 08

[Pina Colada]

Hi Septemberry Mums (& Bubs) :wave:

I reckon there is enough of us to move on over into the Birth Groups section - what do you think? ;)

My little Addison Marie is now 2 weeks old! I can't believe how much time is flying by. This is my last bubby, and I have found that I am savouring every moment more, which is fantastic! Addison is doing really well, she is a really placid bub, never cries (unless I am wiping her bottom with a cold wipe!), and sleeps really well. She feeds every 4 or so hours, and is ready for more sleep after about 1 1/2hrs of awake/play time. I wrap her, kiss her, and pop her in her bassinette, and she puts herself to sleep :cloud9:

Her big sister and brother have been absolutely wonderful. Yasmine just dotes on her, and loves to hold her. Liam is just the most adoring big brother, and if he can't see her, he doesn't stop asking where she is. He loves to kiss her, and put his head against hers, which just melts my heart.

I must say I am struggling to keep up with the housework, and have decided to get a house cleaner in once or twice a week to do the floors, bathrooms etc. Then if I can just keep the house tidy, I'll be ok. But all in all, I really can't complain. I really feel very blessed and happy :cloud9:

How are all of you other lovely Septemberry mummys going??

Mods please sticky :)

[missmilliesmum]

:wave: Donna!

Addison sounds lovely! I tried to see the pics of her on our other thread but it didn't work! Any chance you could post them again? I'm sure she is beautiful!

Amelia sounds very similar to Addison! She feeds every 3-4 hours and barely cries also. Only when she is hungry or having her bum wiped also! She is also very placid - but I feel she is starting to become a bit more alert. She is on the brink of smiling which gets me and her Daddy all excited!

It is her EDD today believe it or not and she is already 3 weeks old! I can't believe it!

I hear you on the house work! And I only have one child! I figure that I will get stuck in to it when DH goes back to work nxt wk and the visitors become less frequent!

Overall I am just loving being a Mum! It is so rewarding when they nuzzle into you and fall asleep in your arms!

The community nurse is coming to weigh Amelia today! I am super keen to see how much weight she has put on as she was prem and is still so little, but I am 100% sure she is putting on weight. She feeds well and is very settled. Will let you know how it went later!

[TrulyBlessed]

Hey Donna & Sarah, I'm here too.

Abbie is a dream of a baby, following on after her big brother thankfully.

She's feeding every 3-4hrs & just sleeping in between. I can't believe she was 3 weeks old yesterday as I've got no idea where the time has gone (apart from hospital visits). Still awaiting her due date to come scan at 19weeks put me at the 15th but by lmp was the 23rd.

I hear you both on the house work also but that also has to do with the fact that I've been told to take it easy & rest to see if that helps with things.

I have my next gyno appt tomorrow to get the results of the u/s I had to follow up the d&c.

How long did your partners have off work? DH is already back at work since I had the VB so finding the bed & bath routine a little exhausting with ds.

I've got to admit I'm also being lucky with Declan as he's not jealous towards Abbie at all & sound very much like you DS with Addison Donna.

Sarah - GL with the midwife.

[cassvanm]

Hi girls! No, not joining you just yet, but this has answered some questions for me! I always wondered why the monthly groups seemed to just stop, and was worried that ours would do that too! Now I know that this is not the case! YAY! Hope to come back here soon and join the convos!

[missmilliesmum]

:wave: Amy!

My DH has had 3 weeks off of work. This is for a few reasons. Firstly it is our first bub so we wanted to make the most of it while we can! And also as I had the caesarean and need a bit of extra help. It has been so wonderful having him here! Wonder how I will go when he goes to work nxt week!!???

Amelia's appointment with the community nurse went really well today! She has put on 470g in 2 weeks which is excellent! She is 3 weeks old today and has well and truly surpassed her birth weight of 2.66kgs!

She has also grown 2cm in length and 1cm in head circ. She is still only in the 5th percentile but that is cause she was prem and still is very little - but she is definately thriving! Yay!

Hope you are feeling better Amy. You have had such a rough time of it! You really deserve some good news/health!

Well I'd better go and feed the little one! Chat soon girls!

Hope Kat, Judy and all the others join us soon!

[Pina Colada]

Wow, Sarah, that is great growth in 3 weeks! :yelclap: I must admit I am a really slack mummy when it comes to weighing and measuring my babies :o I don't think I even weighed Liam twice in his life. However, I never had premmies or even small bubs, so I can totally understand you wanting to know! So yay for Amelia :smiliedance: Well done team.

Addison was weighed on day 3 and then again on day 5 in hospital and she had put on 190g in 2 days :laughing: And I can see how much bigger she is just looking at her, so I might weigh her on the weekend for curiousity sake!

My DH took off this week (as paternity leave ) and he'll be back to work on Tuesday. He worked the 1st week I was home, so I stayed at Mums. So I'll have 2 full weeks of help then I'm on my own. I'm not to worried about it - Addison is a dream to be honest, it is the other two that are the handful!! I'm actually excited about getting into it by myself and working out our new routine!

Roast pork for dinner tonight - yummo. Addison has been fast asleep since 5pm, and Yasmine has just gone to bed. Just got to get rid of my Leo and I'm free for a couple of hours :D Til Addy wakes up of course, but she usually goes straight back to sleep.

Wishing you all good nights ladies :fingerscrossed:

[JJJ&D'sMum]

:wave: I only just found this thread today so that's why I haven't joined you till now.

It's great to hear that you're all enjoying new motherhood and your bubs are all dreams. Deon is also a dream baby but I don't have the freedom of allowing him to sleep as long as he likes due to his bilirubin levels rising. He has to be fed 3-4 hourly around the clock in order to try and flush the jaundice out of his system so I have to reset my alarm constantly. BM is the best to help with jaundice and luckily that's not a problem for me...I seem to have an oversupply yet again. He is in filtered sunlight all day every day and has been pooing out the jaundice every nappy change but even that isn't helping. The only bonus is that he has gained 105gms in the 2 days since we came home. If I'm not here tomorrow or over the weekend you'll know we've been re-admitted to hospital. I'm expecting it to happen tomorrow.

Enjoy your Friday and weekend if I'm not here to chat to you all.

:hugs:

[TrulyBlessed]

Judy - I posted to you in the other thread but wanted to give you more :hugs::hugs: sweets.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Amy good luck for your appointment tomorrow. I hope it all goes well for you and things get sorted out once and for all. I'll be looking out to see how you go if I'm home. :hugs:to you too.

[Pina Colada]

:hugs: Judy - I hope Deon is well soon

Tired this morning. Addison was awake for an hour or so around midnight, fed twice at midnight, and 4am. Kids slept well, got up at 6am, but still tired :sleeping:

Quiet day today, staying home all day. Will attempt to catch up on some housework! I did quiet well yesterday, so I'll try to get completely up to date today. DH can sweep and mop for me :D

Well, better make the big kids their breakfast.

[Pina Colada]

Morning ladies - how are we all going with our new bubs :cloud9:

Well Addison has decided to feed 2 hourly now, which is a bit of a bummer :laughing:, I'm hoping it is just a growth spurt or a little stage she is going through.

The best thing I have learnt from my previous two babies, is that "this too shall pass" is my favourite saying, and it really gets me through now. Nothing lasts forever - my DD1 was a shocking feeder, sleeper and crier etc. and I got through that and now she is a perfectly fine 3 year old :D So I know I can get through anything!!!! ;)

I can't believe how much she is growing and just how alert she is! The kids continue to dote on her and love to hold her or be near her.

DH is back to work on Tuesday, and I get thrown in the deep end, because he is away for 48 hours :eek: I'm a bit worried about 2 nights on my own, but hey, I'll get through. I'm just worried about one of the other kids waking up while I'm busy feeding Addy.

DH is going to a motocross race today, so I'm going to catch up on some housework. I've done pretty well the last couple of days, so I'd like to stay on top of it all.

Oh, and I start Weight Watchers tomorrow. No more babies for me, so time to get my body back :smiliedance:

[TrulyBlessed]

Hey guys how are you all?

Donna - Glad to hear you are doing well with the kids. Don't worry about when DH heads off all you'll need to worry about is that you & the kids are fed forget everything else if you get to it bonus but if not it can wait. GL on the weight watchers, how do you change it for while you are bfing? I've got the at home kit which is what I was going to use.

Sarah - Wow little Amelia is doing well. Its nice having DH home with bubs & certainly to help since you had the csect. How are you going with recovery?

Judy - Hey sweets I forgot to post here about my appt but I'm sure you read about it in the other thread. How's the family going, Deon & you? Feeling better now knowing his levels are dropping?

Well for us I had Abbie weighed Friday at the chemist while I was getting my new lot of anti bs. She is to 3620g which is 55g short of a kg from her discharge weight at 4 days old. She is feeding & sleeping well & has started having awake moments now too. Its hard to believe my little girl will be 4weeks old in 3 days & my first due date is only tomorrow (u/s @ 20 weeks) & lmp was 23/9. Where has the time gone.

[Pina Colada]

Amy - if you know how many points you are allowed normally, add 7 on if you are breastfeeding. I get 32 points a day! I've worked out how long it should take me to get to goal - by my DD1 4th birthday is my major goal :yelclap: I should be bf the whole time, so that is good news, it should help a lot.

[smiley80]

Wholly Molly you ladies are lucky... Emily started off feeding and sleeping well like that but this last 48 hours have been a nightmare... im going out of my mind. yesterday she woke at 2.30pm and wouldnt go down again till 10.30 last nite.. then woke every couple hours till 9am this morning and she hasnt really gone backk down since then.. everyone keeps telling me its normal but it doesnt seem normal to me i dunno if shes got wind or what... she lies down for 10mins or so then starts screming again... im so tired.... and i dunno what to do.. just rang a midwife and they said feed her longer.. but she just falls off when shes finished

[TrulyBlessed]

Hey sweets does Emily settle when she's lying propped up on your chest?

[JJJ&D'sMum]

:wave:

Amy yep I have read the other thread now so I think I'm up to date. Everyone here is going well.....DD is still doting on Deon but I think the poor little mite is starting to feel the pinch of not having mummy all to herself. I'm going to have to spend more quality time with her during the day and leave the housework till night time, I think. Re: Deon's levels - I am so relieved they've dropped....you have no idea how much better I feel. I'm hoping tomorrow's blood test shows another improvement.

It's hard to believe that Abbie is almost 4 wks old already. Where has the time gone?

Smiley sorry to hear Emily isn't sleeping too well. Have you tried changing her nappy halfway through her feed to make her cold and wake her up? She'll most likely drink more that way. Also, if she's waking after 10 mins sleep then maybe she does have wind like you mentioned. Does she pull her legs up when she wakes and cries cos that's a classic sign of wind.

I'm off to do a few things before I escape the house for a while. Take care ladies !!!

[smiley80]

hey mummadj yeah she does seem to settle propped up... but when we put her back in her bed she screams....when i try and feed or burp her she arches her back and yes shes pulling her legs in the air... ive tried burping her but nothing comes up... a couple small burps but thats it... shes down atm been down for 40mins thats a record for us today.. :(

[TrulyBlessed]

Donna - it could be 1 of 3 options: severe wind, reflux or even colic. Try propping the mattress up slightly & see if that helps. Have you got a swing you could put her in that during the day & see if that helps.

[smiley80]

thanks mummadj...well she ended up sleeping for two hours.. and ive just finished feeding her again.. shes still arching her back a bit... tried burping her got a little one.. her lips seemed slightly purpley....
if it is severe wind what can i do apart from keep trying to burp her? i dont have a swing...

[missmilliesmum]

:wave: Girls,

How are we all today? I have had a very nice day. My parents came over for a visit and Mum inisited that I bath Amelia so that she could watch! So we had a bathing demonstration for my Mum and Dad! It was quite cute actually as she loves her bath and is very cute when she's just chillin out in the water!

Amelia has become a bit of a chucky baby over the last 24 hours - she has vomitted on around 6 outfits I think! Hope it's just a phase! I now permanently have a bib on her! She is still going great guns with everything else! Last night hse slept for 5 1/2 hours between feeds! It was fantastic! However - she sometimes feeds 2 - 2 1/2 hourly in the mornings! I call it the morning feeding frenzy!

Donna - I hear you bout being nervous bout being on your own. My DH is back to work tomorrow! :eek: I keep thinking...I hope I can do this on my own! I know I will be fine, but it's a bit daunting. You are amazing being able to cope with 2 other littlies and a newborn! Hope your night's on your own this week run smoothly.

Amy - Glad to hear that Abbie is doing well and also putting on weight! How are you feeling? I read bout what the Dr's said in your other post. Hopefully this lot of antibiotics will do the trick so that you can recover and move on you poor luv! I am recovering well from my caesar. I am now driving and am able to go for a walk every 2nd day for 1/2 an hour or so. Still can't do the vaccuming or hang out the washing for another 3 weeks! Believe it or not I am keen to do those things! The nesting instinct has failed to leave me!

Judy - So glad that Deon is doing so well! I haven't told anyone this yet - not for any reason other than it hasn't really come up - but Amelia had bad jaundice which pretty much developed overnight in hospy. Her bilirubin levels were above 300. She spent 20 hours in the nursery having phototherapy during our last night/day in hospy. It almost killed me as it was the day my baby blues hit and I was really emotional and then they took her from me! I was really sad, but she actually loved it! She was just laying back and having a good sunbake! Luckily 20 hours was enough to get her levels low enough for us to D/C and like you I had the BF often and put her in the sunlight when we were home! No traces of jaundice now!
I am glad that Jasmine is being good with Deon. I'm sure she would appreciate some extra special 1:1 time with her Mum is you can spare it! You guys with other kids are amazing! I don't know how I am gonna do it one day!

Smiley - You poor thing! I agree with Amy. Sounds like it might be reflux or Colic (especially with the arching of the back and legs) I agree - maybe try to prop her a little more upright or if you are wrapping her - you could lay her on her side as long as you watch her while she sleeps - to make sure she doesn't roll. Also - are you using a dummy? My friends who have had bubs with reflux/colic swear that dummies are the only thing that settles them. Otherwise if it continues for another day maybe you could take Emily to the Dr for some advice?

Hope you all get a good night's sleep tonight! (Well - inbetween feeds anyway!) :thumbsup:

[smiley80]

what exactly is colic?

we stopped wrapping her.. and the midwife i spoke to today suggested wrapping her again.. so we have and she had that two hour nap before and shes current been down for this nap for 15mins so fingers crossed... tried a dummy on her last nite but when we took it out to put her to bed she screamed again....
if shes like this tomorrow we gonna take her to community health centre thingy.... see if they can help....

glad all u ladies are enjoying ur bubs and thanks for the advice

[Pina Colada]

:hugs: Donna - I hope you had a better night last night. It must be tough, your bub being upset and you feeling like there is nothing you can do :crying:

Addison was awake for an hour or so from 3am-4am (she also woke at 9pm and midnight for a feed). She is still asleep now though. Yasmine was awake for an hour from 12am-1am, she seemed to have a bit of a temperature, although she seemed fine (too fine in fact - chirpy at 1am :doh:).

DH has his last day of holidays today - and he is using it to have another sleep in. Do any of you ladies have trouble getting your DH to give you a sleep in instead of himself or is it just me :rolleyes: He seriously would rather stay in bed himself, then let me, the one that gets up to all the kids at night. It makes me so mad sometimes, and then he wanders out of bed and asks what's wrong :shame:

Sorry for the little vent - I feel bad complaining, because he is good with most other things, but seriously, when is it my turn!!! :hissy:

I will have to get a few groceries to last the week today. My mum and dad are coming for a visit tomorrow, as I am taking Yasmine to an open day at the kindy she will be attending next year, and mum wants to come. They'll be staying tomorrow night, which is great, means I'll only be on my own on Wed night. I haven't told the kids they are coming yet, so they'll get a nice surprise tomorrow morning.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Donna sorry to hear that Emily isn't settling. I found some info for you on colic so I HTH. Colic_Information. (http://www.babycenter.com.au/baby/health/colic/)

Donna (Sissy) My DP is the same as yours. He has to have his sleep in on Saturdays yet I get up every night to the kids and STILL have to basically shove him out of bed on Sundays so that I can have my so called sleep-in. It's not really a sleep-in when you've been up half the night and awake for almost an hour and then have to struggle to go back to sleep. Like your DH, my DP is great in most other aspects.....I guess they all have their faults just like we do.

Not much happening here....still waiting for the phone call from the Domicillary Midwife with Deon's blood results from this morning. My patience levels are usually quite high but I'm getting very impatient right about now...might have to ring them myself soon.

[smiley80]

thanks ladies... had a very good nite last nite.. after i put her down yesterday arvo she woke 4 hourly for feeds and went straight back to sleep.. same with today.. had a little unsettled period from 2-4 but shes down again now so im feeling much better.... thanks for ya help.
emily also had bad jaundice in hospital and spent 24hrs under phototherapy in the special care nursery... upset me alot but seems quite common...

[Pina Colada]

:wave: mums and bubs

Donna - I hope you had another good night :fingerscrossed:

Judy - We hope to see you home soon with Deon. At least you are in the best place for him to be now hon :hugs:

Well, I had a SHOCKER! Yasmine got out of bed 11 times last night :hair: I am supposed to be taking her to kindy open day this morning, and I threatened her with missing that, and she she went back to sleep just after 5am - still asleep now, lucky for her. On top of that Liam woke up at 10pm and took until 11pm to go back to sleep, and Addison woke up at 11pm, 2am, and 5am :sleeping: My mum and dad are coming to stay with me today and tonight, thank goodness.

Other than kindy open day, I'm not really up to much. DH is back to work today, and flying to Brisbane until Thursday, so I'm flying solo, which I'm not too concerned about - it is the time between 5pm and 7pm I'll miss though, that is when I need help, dinner, bath, pj's, feeding Addy etc.etc.

I hope you all had a good night (that is the biggest thing in our lives now isn't it :D) and hope to see Judy soon.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

We're home again! I've posted in the other thread but the short n sweet of it is......

Deon's levels reduced to 255 this morning and the paed checked him over and decided that because he had gained 25gms overnight, we could come home. The next blood test is in the morning so we'll see what happens from there.

There is no conclusive reason as to why it's happening but that was the same with Jasmine so it's no surprise.

I'll catch up again later on tonight when the kids are all in bed.

:hugs:

[missmilliesmum]

:smiliedance: Judy!

Glad to hear that Deon is well and that you and he are home!

[TrulyBlessed]

Judy - :yelclap::smiliedance: I'm so glad that you are home again & :fingerscrossed: levels keep going down.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Thanks for keeping your :fingerscrossed: for me ladies. Mine are gonna be crossed all night and tomorrow up until the paed rings me with the blood results.

I'm knackered so I'm heading off to bed.....take care ! :hugs:

[missmilliesmum]

Morning Ladies

How are we all this morning?

I had a good night. Amelia went 5 hours between feeds! Was very happy - but still find it so hard to drag myself outta bed! I have to feed her in the lounge where it is cold as she is terrible feeding in bed for some reason!

More visitors today :thumbsdown: Not really in the mood - but what can you do??? My DH's family is massive and they all wanna see Amelia. Next baby I'm just gonna have a BBQ and everyone can come at once if they want to and then that's it! I've had three weeks straight of visitors and now DH is back at work I have to do it on my own! It doesn't help that I have OCD and need the house to be perfect - so I am buggared by the time ppl get here cause I spend the morning cleaning!

I can't believe Amelia will be 4 weeks old tomorrow! :eek: Where has the time gone???

Take care Mummy's.....

[missmilliesmum]

Also forgot to mention that my left breast is very sore and tight! Hope it's not the start of mastitis!!! I feel fine - No temperature - so will just have to keep an eye on things.
Off to have a shower now - so will try to massage it and hope it gets better!

[TrulyBlessed]

Hi girls how are you all & bubs?

Sarah - FX that its not the start of mastitis but just a little engorgement.

Judy - When do you get the results of Deon's tests today?

Donna (smiley) - I hope bub is still settled for you hun. Still crying lots?

Donna (Sissy) - Hope Addison is treating you well & you got more sleep last night. How are the older 2? Did Yasmine stay in bed this time?

As for me I'm buggered will go for a nap when Declan does as Abbie had me up most of the night last night at least every 30-60mins cluster feeding so I'm thinking she might be going through a grow spurt. The little rat is now sleeping & has been most of the morning.

[Pina Colada]

Hi ladies :wave:

Yasmine and Liam both have a vomiting bug, so things are a bit crazy here at the moment. Yasmine was really sick last night, and this morning, but she slept most of the morning and woke up about 1/2 hour ago and seems to be on the mend. Liam is asleep, and I'm not sure if he is going to get worse or better yet.

Addison is a little grizzly but not too bad. Feeds are 3 hourly, which is ok, and we are doing quite well. I feel like I don't spend much time with her though IYKWIM between all the other kids and her being asleep so much, I feel like a bad mummy :no:

Amy - Don't you love growth spurts :rolleyes: I hope you can squeeze a nap in when Declan and Abby are asleep.

Sarah - I hope you boob is ok! I have been really lucky - 3 bubs and 3 lots of oversupply and massive rock hard boobs and never had a problem with mastitis. Keep an eye on you temp ok?

Donna - I hope your bub gave you a good night last night - how is her wind/colic going??

Judy - :fingerscrossed: Deon's test results come back with a great result - let us know how he goes hon.

Hope to be back later in the day (with 2 perfectly healthy children....)

[JJJ&D'sMum]

:wave: ladies! I've just posted a catch up thread in the other post so I'll just give you a quick run down.

Deon's level this morning was down to 224 with the conjugate (not compaction level - mush brain is gone now) level of 9 so it's all good news. I have to ring back and find out what the go is from here as I was too excited to think about that when I got his results earlier.

Sarah enjoy that hot shower and keep up the massage to clear up the lumps. I've already been through that this week and I'm glad it's all over. I still have the toe curling a bit due to grazes healing up but I can cope with that.

Amy enjoy your nap and I hope it's a long one. I'm not looking forward to the cluster feeding stage at all.

Time to go..got a friend coming over any minute so enjoy your day and I'll catch up again later.

[smiley80]

judy thats great news about deon.

amy enjoy ur nap.. i tried to have one but the neighbours dogs keep barking..

sissy i hope the bug clears out thats all u need with a newborn

emily is doing better... she has the odd unsettled period like last nite she was up for about 4 hours but i can handle that.. all she wanted was boob every half hour or so.. just when we thought she was asleep she wanted boob again.. tried a dummy she just looked at us funny and spat it out.. .. we took her to the hospital for a weigh in and stuff shes put on 400g since hospital which was only a week and a half ago and shes grown 3cm... and the midwife suggest some colic relief syrup that we can give her half a dose of so see how that goes if we need to..

[GeorgiaAnne]

Hi chicks
Smiley - Your dd sounds like my dd. It will get easier I promise but some bubbas find it hard to shut out the world and sleep.
Sarah - How's your boob? Yous should try a cool pack, they have been my saviour :bee: re: visitors, it's a pain but second time around no-one is too interested, thank goodness! 1st time I got about 15 bunches of flowers delivered this time 2! :laughing:
Judy - Glad to hear his levels are going down :yes:
Donna - Hope the gastro bug has settled, what a nightmare for you and lots of washing!
Amy - Hope you got that nap in and that you have a more restful night.

Me: My little munchkin is all wrapped up having a sleep in his chair after being poked ad prodded for last hour by friends 18mth boy. He is looking mighty peaceful so I will have a cup of tea and put my feet up.
re: weightloss, I have lost 12 kg since birth 1 week ago :eek: I must've had a lot of fluid but it is nice to see my ankles again! Only another 20 to go. I put on 27 but would like to go back to 60kg and am 80 now.

[Pina Colada]

Morning ladies :wave:

Well we had a much better night last night. Mum and Dad stayed anyway, which was good. Yasmine was really cute, she just wanted Grunky (that was how she said Grandma when she was small, and it has stuck! all the grandkids call her Grunky). She vomited just after she went to sleep around 8pm, and then was coughing alot and having trouble getting back to sleep. She went to sleep at 9pm.

Liam is sick today, but no vomiting just a temperature. Hopefully he will sleep alot of today.

Addison is 3 weeks now and seems to have worked day out from night. She fed at 10pm, 2am and 5am and then straight back to sleep. Mum got up with Yasmine and Liam so I slept until 7am :yelclap:

Addison really is such a dream baby, never cries and happy to sit in her rocker or swing and watch the kids go crazy around her, or mummy cooking dinner.

Speaking of which she just woke up, so better go now.

Hope all mums and bubs are doing well. I'll have to do personals later :hugs:

[GeorgiaAnne]

lol Donna, Sophia calls her grandad "gruck"
Glad you got some sleep last night.

My Mr. Man seems to think that 9pm-1am is up time with mummy. He's not unhappy but wont sleep no matter how much boob or pats come his way, just wants to be by my side. He is a perfect lil mummy's boy :D

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Morning ladies....well what's left of it anyway.

Donna (smiley) I'm glad Emily is doing better and gaining weight. All that mummy's milk is obviously contributing to her utmost health.

Donna (Sissy) Good to hear that the kids are beginning to improve. Are your parents staying any longer to help you out or do they go home today?

Georgia well done on losing so much weight so soon! At this rate you'll be a skinny minny in no time. I hear you on the ankles hun....I had never swelled with any of my previous pg's but it happened to me a week before Deon was born. It's so nice to be able to see my ankles again and wear real shoes as well. Deon also seems to enjoy awake time between 9pm-11pm and it's rather cute that all he wants is cuddles from mummy. 2hrs of it is enough for me so I don't know how you cope with 4hrs of it. You must be exhausted by the time you get to bed.

Amy how are you doing hun? Are you feeling any better yet?

Sarah how are your boobs going? I hope they're feeling more normal by now.

Me - I'm hoping that tomorrows results mean that I can allow Deon to sleep as long as he likes overnight. This feeding so often is beginning to take it's toll on me and I think I've grown some bags under my eyes. I can't stand bags as they make me feel old and that's something that I don't want to do in a hurry. I'm too d*mn busy to feel old !

[Pina Colada]

:laughing: Georgia - don't you love when the kids give people a new name and it sticks! DD1 also named her Uncle Alan "Lala" and it has stuck which is so cute seeing as he is a 17 year old boy and is so proud of all these kids calling him Lala :laughing:

Well done on the weight loss too. I also retain a lot of fluid when pregnant, and am 18kg less than I was just before birth. Another 12kg to go and back to pre preg and then I can start on the weight I wanted to lose before then :rolleyes:

Donna - good to see Emily is gaining weight and sleeping a lot better.

Judy - good luck with Deon's test results. I hope you can let him sleep as long as he like soon :fingerscrossed: I know what you mean about feeling old. I'm only 27 for god's sake, and I feel so old and dowdy. I'm not going to feel like this anymore, I have to sort myself out :hissy:

[GeorgiaAnne]

Hi chicks
Donna - Lucky I just had a baby otherwise those photos of Addison would've had me cluck, clucking away - she is absolutely beautiful, truly :) and lol on uncle Lala, that is so cute!
Judy - Fingers crossed for the results and well done on changing the routine, that would be hard to do when you already had things going well.

me - I have a day of visitors today as well as the echn coming for a home visit. She'd better be nice, they're normally such bossy old witches :devil: otherwise she's not getting a cup of tea!

[Lavin]

Hi Ladies,

How is everyone going with all their bubbas? I cant believe how quickly the time goes when bubs comes along.

Been home from the hospital now for a couple of days but its been a little rough since yesterday, got mastitis one side and started to get it on the other so decided after a lot of thought (and tears) to switch to formula because she wasnt getting enough from one side. So the next couple of days will be painful from taking the tablet to stop milk but im just relieved that i know she will be getting enough milk now, but im just a little down that i dont get that special time that even after a week of having with her breastfeeding is over now. It sorta makes me feel like a failure with her as well :hissy:
She is a fantastic well behaved little girl, ill post some pics soon on facebook

Sorry for the downa post girls,

chat to you soon, little miss Mia is up now, gotta go :hugs:

[GeorgiaAnne]

Hi Lavin,
I'm sorry about your boobs :no: I got it with dd and had the start of it this time and it is damn painful. If you feel like you have done the right thing, don't question yourself or feel guilty - forgive yourself and move on. Even when you give a bottle you can have that closeness and eye contact :hugs: to you though.
If you do change your mind, the anti-bios work pretty quick and you just feed through the pain for 24 hrs. Please don't feel pressured though, it is just advice, take it or leave it :flowerz:

[Pina Colada]

Welcome home Lavinia and Mia :wave:

I'm glad you had such a positive c-section experience Lavin - how did you find the hospy and midwives? I find it a wonderful place to have a baby.

Sorry your boobs gave you a lot of trouble. Never had mastitis, but with DD1 we had a lot of attachment issues which were terrible. It took me 10 days to finally get a lactation consultant to my house, and then a further 6 weeks for my poor boobs to heal :crying: So I hear you with the boob probs. If you are happy you have made the right decision hon, forgive yourself, and focus on the wonderful little life you created and all you have ahead of you. And yay that she is sleeping so well for you - that is such a bonus in these early days.

I look forward to seeing your beautiful photos :bee:

[missmilliesmum]

:wave: Mummy's and Bubs,

How are we all today?

Thanks for your best wishes girls - luckily my boob seems ok. Thought for sure something was up - it hurt like hell and was tight and then I was all achey and tired last night - kept waiting for my temperature to go up but it never did! Must have taken it 20 times! Woke up feeling much better today. Left boob is still a little sore but much better. Almost feels bruised. Thinking maybe it was a slightly blocked duct that didn't develop into mastitis??

Took Amelia to my work today to show her off! It is amazing how a baby can melt even the hardest of ppl! Amazingly it was the few men that I work with that were clucking all over the place - hillarious! Everyone had a hold and Amelia was very good - she'll let anyone hold her and she barely stirs even when being passed around like pass the parcel!

We are just chilling at home now. Very much loving the fact that we don't have any visitors today!

Donna - I hope that Yasmine and Liam are feeling better soon! Glad Addy is being so good for you!

Donna (Smiley) - Glad to hear the Emily is a little more settled. You sound a lot more settled yourself - I am so glad. Hope it just keeps getting better for you. Any luck wuth the colic syrup? I have heard it works well.

Georgia - You sound besotted with little Charlie and why wouldn't you be? He is just gorgeous. I hear you on the weigh front! I have lost 14kgs since the birth so far - but I had LOADS of fluid! I too have about 20kgs to go to get me back to 70kg's with is small for me and what I was on my wedding day! It didn't help that I put on about 8 kilos before I got pregnant! Woops! Now I have to work extra hard to get back in to shape. In another 2 weeks I can start exercising more after my C-Sect.

Lavin - Poor luv. Sorry to hear bout the mastitis. I am told that it is mighty painful and as I said I think I just missed out myself! Don't stress about BF hun. Only you know what's best for little Mia. Chin up!

Judy - Hope Deon's bilirubin levels stay down! It will be nice for you to go longer between feeds overnight. Amelia is currently going 5 hours and I am hanging to stretch it to 6 - but I think that might take a while!

Amy - Hope all is well at home with you and Declan and Miss. Abbie!

Chat soon girls xo

[StarMummy]

Hi girls,

Well i have been home since 3days post c-sect but havent had time to get on here as i have been back and forwards from the hospital everyday as i have to take Hunter in quite frequently as he is loosing weight and they dont know why.
BUT that thankfully was resolved as today he had put on 115g in 2 days!!! So fx it continues.

Hunter really is a booby boy thats for sure feeds quite frequently and wont sleep atm unless he is on the boob or in my arms so needless to say so tired here.

Tarleha doesnt like her brother :rolleyes: but she is slowly getting better, still worried she will kill him.

I am so over this post-partum bleeding....it looked like it was leaving but has come back it has been stopping and starting for last couple of days. Dunno how i put up with it for 3wks after tarleha.

Anyways enough :ecomcity: from me waiting for the boy to wake to feed no doubt it will be in the next 10 mins.

[GeorgiaAnne]

Hi girls
Kristee - I hope Hunter keeps on putting on weight and no more hospy trips :fingerscrossed: I can't remember how long I bled for last time, I thought it was about 6 weeks :confused: Hopefully not this time!
Sarah - Yay for no mastitis, it is truly awful. That's great Amelia is so cruisy, Sophia used to hate being passed around but it's so nice for people to get a cuddle.

me: we had quite a good night with no unsettled period and 1 four hour stretch which was nice. My dh was snoring though so it took ages to get back to sleep :rolleyes: in between trying to roll him over!

[Pina Colada]

Morning ladies

Well, a bit of excitement here - Addison slept from 8.30pm until 3.30am. Unfortunately Yasmine woke up twice in that time, and I got the kid's diarreaha :rolleyes: so was up and down all last night.

Yasmine seems to be alot better again today, but they both have a really nasty cough now. Liam is still a bit off, and is asleep already. I hope he feels better soon poor little lamb.

Georgia - my DH snores and needs a 'gentle' roll over too! There is nothing more frustrating when you are up and down all night, and when you do get a chance to sleep they are snorting away next to you :hair:

Kristee - I'm glad Hunter is gaining some weight now hon. They always find something to worry us over, don't they, little gems :rolleyes:

Since I started typing DS woke up and I went in to him and put him back to sleep so I forgotten everything else so :hugs: to all who need them :hugs: I hope we are all savouring this beautiful time that will pass so quickly :cloud9:

[GeorgiaAnne]

I hope we are all savouring this beautiful time that will pass so quickly :cloud9:

:iagree::iagree::yes::yes:

I sure am, I didn't last time as I was so overwhelmed as a first time mummy but this time I am just taking so much joy in his baby-ness :flowerz:

[GeorgiaAnne]

Donna - What a great stretch by Addison, well done! I hope the gastro bug passes quickly, don't you love how they share it around!

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Hey!, Just found this chat!, I was wondering where everyone would end up chatting once we had all had bubs :)

Now I just need to catch up!

[JJJ&D'sMum]

:wave: New Mummy's !!!

Donna (Sissy) I have 12yrs on you and I reckon if I can feel young then so can you. :laughing: Wouldn't it have been good if you could have slept through when Addison slept? Oh well, I'm sure the kids will be over their bug soon and you'll be able to get some well deserved solid sleep.

Georgia was the mchn a nice one? I had a new one come visit me the other day and she is lovely. Hope yours is/was too. Good to hear you got some sleep.

Lavinia you are NOT a failure hun. You will still have that special time when feeding Mia as you'll be holding her and making close eye contact....that's the important part.

Sarah I hope you're getting another quiet day to yourself. It's lovely when you can just kick back and enjoy your new bub.

Kirstee great news that Hunter has gained weight! 115gms in 2 days is a good effort. :yes: He has obviously settled in well to BF.

Alison :wave: and welcome to the new mummy thread !

Phew, I've caught up now. For those who haven't read the other thread - Deon's level was registered this morning on the hand held device and it was down to 176. That means that his jaundice is definitely improving and we can now move on to demand feeding and maybe I will get some well deserved sleep from now on. :smiliedance:

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Judy- Thanks for the welcome!, and thats great that Deons levels are improving!:thumbsup:

:hugs:To everyone with sore boobies. I didn't have any luck breastfeeding this time either, but I am more relaxed about the decision to Bottle feed and dont feel guilty about it this time.

Just have to say, beautiful babies everyone!:yelclap:

[GeorgiaAnne]

Hi Alison, Good to see you back :)
It is a good lookin' bunch I must agree!
All is well here, it is the most beautiful day and my baby is an angel.
My c-sect pain is pretty much gone as well though i'm still not game to carry/pick up Sophia. Donna, how long did you wait before doing stuff like that?

[Pina Colada]

Ummm about Day 10 - I couldn't help myself especially when DS was upset or hurt himself :rolleyes: After about Day 14 I was sweeping, mopping, driving and doing all the things I shouldn't :o Life has to continue on when you have two other little ones I guess. I just try to be careful.

[GeorgiaAnne]

My main worry is the bathing/lifting into cot. I might just keep dh doing it for a while :D

[Tls5431]

Hi Ladies

I hope all is well and everyone is getting enough sleep :D. I found out earlier this week that I have PE after birth. I was not feeling very well last week and spoke to the doctor at Zarah's 7 day checkup... funny thing is that my BP went up after Zarah was born but the hospital did not look into it. DH has been really supportive throughout it all.

Lavin - Don't beat yourself up for not being able to BF. You have done what you think is best for yourself and Mia and you should not feel bad. As Judy said there are otherways to bond with your baby.

Judy - It's good to hear that Deon's levels are dropping and everything is looking positive.

Here are some pics of Zarah.

Zarah when she was first born
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x14/Tls5431/Zarah/DSC_8862.jpg

Zarah's first meeting with her dad
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x14/Tls5431/Zarah/DSC_8884e.jpg

The first couple of days home
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x14/Tls5431/Zarah/DSC_8932eBW.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x14/Tls5431/Zarah/DSC_8938esmall.jpg

[hayleysmummy]

Hello ladies I'd been wondering why we havent seen much of you in the other thread, Thanks sissy I wouldnt have known where to look for this thread

Tls- you take gorgeous piccies she is adorable, what is PE afterbirth? I hope it isnt painful and you recover really quickly :hugs:

Judy- I'm so glad Deons levels have gone down to a safe level you must be so relieved and be able to get some well deserved shut eye

To the mummies that are bottlefeeding please dont feel a failure it doesnt matter how your bub is fed its the love you give that matters and hey at least daddy can take part in the feeding process :cloud9: you girls shouldnt feel as though you have to explain your reasons we are all great mummies

I havent had a chance to go back and read everything yet still quite exhausted.

Bub is now 2 days old and breastfeeding quite well I havent got any blisters or anything but I think thats because DD is still breastfed aswell and toughened them up :D he was up most of last night with hiccups and generally fussy but slept all day :rolleyes: I gave him his first bath this morning after he weed in his mouth (I really have to get used to this doodle thing) :laughing:

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

LOL Jordan thats so funny that he wee'd in his mouth!, Although I'll bet that didn't taste too good!. In a way Im glad I got another girl, now girls I know what to do with :laughing:.

Thanks for sharing the pics TLS! I love the name too!.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Evening ladies !

Alison it's great that you're at ease with your decision. Too many women feel guilty if they can't BF and that's just not right. Well done for trying even though it didn't work out for you.

Tls Zarah is just adorable! It looks like she already has daddy twisted around her little fingers......it's amazing how such tiny beings can do that, isn't it? ;)

Jordan you're lucky not to have any damage to your nipples. I weaned DD just over 5 months ago and it was long enough to soften things up. Deon is such a strong feeder that he damaged me within about 30hrs and I'm still healing on one side.
I had a giggle about Izzy peeing in his own mouth. My DS1 actually peed in his fathers mouth one day and I witnessed it. Of course, I did what all good mums would do and I pee'd myself laughing while XH choked on it. :D

I'm still here relishing the fact that I don't have to set my alarm tonight or any other night. I just hope that Deon decides to sleep for a decent amount of time so I can catch up.

[GeorgiaAnne]

TLS - Gorgeous photos - well done to you, she is divine! :yelclap:
Judy - Enjoy your longer sleep and no alarm, yay.
Jordan - Glad to hear you're doing so well ad Izzy is feeding well.
re: boys, I know - it's totally different. We've had a few uplanned baths due to changetable nappy off wees. I think girls are way easier.
Me: I;m tired and off to bed - oo roo x

[Pina Colada]

Morning Mums & Bubs

TLS - gorgeous little girl you have there! You must be so proud :cloud9:

Jordan - You are such a strong woman, I am constantly amazed at how you are handling such a difficult situation with such strength :) I hope Izzy had a better night last night hon.

Judy - So how was your first 'untimed' night :laughing: ? Did Deon sleep well?

Georgia - :laughing: boys certainly are different at nappy change time. But to be honest, DS only did it to me a couple of times in the hospital, and never ever since!

We had quite a good night - Yasmine and Liam both slept through, so I only had to get up to Addy at 12midnight and 3am. DH has come down with diarreaha now, and as I'm sure all of you ladies know, it is far worse then the diarreaha I've had for the past 48hrs :rolleyes: :p He is still in bed. Addy is down for her 1st nap, so I'm getting stuck into the house now because I've fallen a bit behind with the kids being sick, and then me coming down with it too.

No exciting plans this weekend. We were invited to a wedding today (colleague of DH) but it is an 1 1/2 hrs away, and I'm still fat, don't have anything to wear, and generally don't feel like it, so we have declined the invite. So a quiet weekend for us!

How about you ladies?

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Morning everyone!

Donna men are total sooks when it comes to being ill. They don't get sick, they're DIEING because they're feeling sooooooooooooo bad! I'm sure they think that just because we still function when we're ill that we're not really that sick at all. Good to hear that Yasmine and Liam slept through.....that means you got more sleep too.

Deon woke at midnight, 5am and 8am last night so I got a bit more sleep. Hopefully he'll sleep a bit better tonight.
We have some friends coming over this afternoon to meet Deon but other than that, no plans here. School holidays have begun and DS2 was meant to be going to XH's this Sunday for a week but that's not happening now. XH has to have brain surgery on Wednesday so DS2 isn't going anywhere......he's rather impressed that he can stay home so it's all good.

[smiley80]

HI Ladies.. how is everyone? Theres more and more of us coming over to this thread now.
We had a few more restless nites with emily and my mum was at the doctor she mentioned to the nurse there what was happening and the nurse said if we wanted help to go see her so we did.. turns out she used to work at trecillian in sydney and antoher maternity hospital too and she spoke to us for nearly two hours.. showed us how to settle emily and when we thought she was hungry every half hour she wasnt really she was overtired and overstimulated.. and that when she cries to try comforting her in bed and settling her rather than pick her up and feed her... she was a lifesaver.. now shes sleeping much better.. even sometimes going 6 hours between feeds at nite time.
so we're feeling much better and getting a bit more sleep.. although cant wait for the visitors to dry up so i can try having a nap during the day too.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Donna (smiley) I'm so pleased that your mum came across a nurse who has been able to help you. It's definitely not what you know but who you know and in your situation, it seems to have been just what you needed. Well done and happy sleep-filled nights from here on in!

:hugs:

[Pina Colada]

Donna - I'm so glad Emily is finally settling for you! I found with DD1 we picked her up at the slightest murmour, and I fed her every time. I pretty much broke her and she spent the 1st 9 weeks of her life sleeping on our chests.

Fast forward 3 years, and I am so busy with the other kids that when Addy wakes up it usually takes me 5 - 10 minutes to get to her, and so often she is asleep when I go in to pick her up!

Judy - I'm glad you were allowed to let Deon sleep in peace last night!

[Tls5431]

Hi Ladies

Yes I think see is gorgeous to. But as her mum I think I'm a bit bias. ;)

Jordan - Sorry, PE is preeclampsia. They have me on blood pressure tablets and will keep an eye on it over the next few weeks so shouldbe all good. Glad to hear Izzy is feeding well.

Sissy - if your DH's diarreaha is anything like the man flu that his our house everynow and then, all I can say is best of luck ;).

Judy - Glad to hear you enjoyed your first alarm free night. Yes Zarah definetly has daddy wrapped around her little fingers. She is already being referred to as Daddy's little girl. A sign of things to come I think.

To all that I have missed, I hope you are having a great weekend.

Me - this is our last weekend before DH goes back to work next week. the only thing we are doing is going out to lunch together tomorrow. other that it is a quiet one at home

[Lavin]

Hi Ladies,

Firstly i just want to say a really huge thanks to everyone for all your supportive words, it really means a lot to me :hugs:

Mia is doing fantastic and eating lots and lots from the bottle so very very happy! :yelclap:



Donna - How are you? Are your two older kids better now? The Cairns hospital is really good isnt it? I feel fantastic now and i think that having mastitis is way more painful than a c/s. My ob did a truly fantastic job.

TLS - The pics of Zarah are absolutely gorgeous, I love the black and white one! :)

Hope everyone is getting lotsa cuddles with their gorgeous little bundles, have a great night ladies. :hugs:

[smiley80]

thanks ladies :)

has anyone heard from lisa? (pinkangel) i read that she was booked in for a ceaser but couldnt find anything about how shes doing?

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Donna Lisa had her baby on the 18th. A little boy called Oscar Anthony. Check out the Announcements (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=196024&page=4) thread for more info. I sent her an sms yesterday asking how she was going but haven't had a reply. :fingerscrossed: it's just because her mobile is flat.

Tls how are you feeling re: the PE? I hope it's improving seeing as though your DH is back to work on Monday.

Lavinia great to hear you're settling into mummyhood so well.

Not much happening here today. DP is heading to his mates house tonight for a few games of pool while his mates DW is coming here to visit me so I'll be relaxing and yakking before collapsing into bed tonight.

Hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend ! :sunshine:

[Pina Colada]

Hi Lavin :wave: I'm not doing too bad. The kids and DH have been sick (as have I, but for some reason nobody seems to give a ratsies :rolleyes: :D) so it has been challenging. I'm glad you had a great recovery. I really have had nothing but great experiences at Cairns Private, so I'm glad you had the same.

Donna - Lisa had a little boy, Oscar Anthony (I think) check out the announcments. I don't think she would be home from hospy yet - maybe Monday :confused: It will be great to see her on here again.

So, I have had a really grumpy day today :banghead: Poor kids have really copped it, I feel like a terrible, grouchy mother. I'm hoping I'll wake up a much nicer mumma tomorrow.

Addison has taken to cat napping in the afternoon - 1/2 hour at a time, and restless in the evening. She has been down for about 10 minutes now, hopefully she'll sleep well now for the rest of the night. I know it is normal for restlessness in the evenings, but we managed to avoid it with DS, so I was hoping we might again ;) Wishful thinking!

[Pina Colada]

:wave: Judy -missed you before! Enjoy your evening with adult company. Lucky thing :yelclap:

Don't stay up too late now - you know whenever we stay up late, we are rewarded with a bad night :laughing:

[hayleysmummy]

Afternoon ladies,

Well I have finally managed to start getting the washing done it sure has piled up since coming home and having to change bub all the time

TLS- I thought it was Pre-eclampsia I'd just never heard of having it after bub :hugs: I hope the BP do you some good

Judy- enjoy your comapny tonight and yay to not having to set your alarm through the night. I had to laugh at your comment about you laughing while your XH choked on it I literally laughed out loud

Lavin- I'm glad Mia has settled on the bottle for you, this may sound weird comng from a breastfeeder but I sometimes wish I could bottlefeed too :D bubs look gorgeous sucking away at them while staring into mummies eyes its beautiful

Sissy- I agree with you when I had DD I never put her down I was always holding her and cuddling her and she still hasnt gone a night without sleeping in my bed, but now with DS I like to put him down in his cot when he's asleep just to get some me/DD time. :hugs: you aren't a bad mummy your an amazing mummy of 3 I dont know how you do it 2 is bloody hard work

Smiley- 6hrs between some feeds that is great I'm glad you got the help you needed it will def save your sanity in the long run

Maria (MW) came today to do bubs hearing, weight and heel prick and he's only lost 85g since birth which is excellent she said bubs usually lose between 120-300 I think its because I had milk from day 1 so he hasnt had to wait til today for it to come although today I've gone from no boobs to watermelons so the colostrum has come in today thank-god DD helps to drain them when DS is asleep

Well I best be off to finish our washing :hugs: to all and I'm sorry if I've missed anyone

[Jel]

Hi girls :wave:
thought i had better come acroos here and see how you are going.. :goodvibes:
things here are going fairly well.
marley has been drinking and sleeping for the past few days, today she was more alert.
she had jaundice , but today she woke and she was a much better colour. probably had her most awake times today.
i've been expressing since about tuesday, as she wouldn't BF, kept fussing around and hardly had anything for the day. so bit the bullet and got the pump out. engorged boobs and crying bubs don't work :no:
now boobs are much better, but i'm a bit concerned that i'm losing supply already. i might have to try and BF again soon - and probably go through the toe curling again!

Anyone feel their temper is a bit too short for their other kids at the moment. my poor girls seem to be in trouble all the time at the moment...
Toni - Zarah is so gorgeous :cloud9:

[GeorgiaAnne]

I'm still toe curling with attachment too. I know it gets easier but yeowch, this boy is not so good at opening his mouth big enough so it's a struggle every time :no:

[Pina Colada]

Anyone feel their temper is a bit too short for their other kids at the moment. my poor girls seem to be in trouble all the time at the moment...


Oh, Jel, it is not just you hon. My older two are always getting roused at, especially DD1 who I expect way too much from :no: I feel like evil mummy sometimes, I really do. I hope it passes soon....

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Anyone feel their temper is a bit too short for their other kids at the moment. my poor girls seem to be in trouble all the time at the moment...


Yes!, Poor Sierra has been yelled at a few times, and then I feel so guilty:no:. I try and give her plenty of attention because I dont want her to feel like shes been replaced by a new bubs, but sometimes I cant help but get angry with her.

Had a good night with Caelyn last night, although it was a bit of a rough start. I fed her at about 9, and she was windy so she was upset for a little while after untill I finally got a decent burp out of her. Then I put her down for sleep... about 30 mins later she sicked up all over herself and her bassinet!. So DH helped me clean up and then we tried to settle her again, but it took about 3 hours and eventually another feed before she would go back to sleep. When she did however she slept till 6 this morning!!, so we all got 6 hours, which feels wonderful lol.

[Pina Colada]

Hi Alison - glad you got Caelyn sorted and had a good nights sleep eventually!

Addison is settling into a routine at night, feeding at 9pm, 12midnight, 3am and then waking at 6am. Exactly the same as DS. But she is turning into a catnapper during the day, and hard to settle, which is taking up a fair bit of time, and a fair bit of my patience, which means there isn't much left for Yasmine and Liam :( She is very alert, maybe she doesn't want to miss out on anything lol.

Not much planned today. Kids are still a bit iffy, so quiet one today.

[missmilliesmum]

Hi Mummys and Bubbys,

Busy weekend here! Went up to my in-laws farm with DH and Amelia yesterday to catch up with his family. It was a lovely day and it makes me excited for the future as I know Amelia will have a ball at the farm with her cousins one day!

Today DH has run the city-to-bay which is an anual 12km run in Adelaide. He is amazing - No training due to little Miss's arrival and he did it in under an hour! He is so fit at the moment and really putting me to shame! So we got up early and Millie and I dropped him off @ 7.30am and then picked him up after @ 9.30am.

DH is currently in the shower and then the three of us are going out for lunch and then off for a visit to Nanna & Pop's!

Amelia has been a bit unsettled overnight the last few nights. She is having a big sleep after her 10pm feed, but when she wakes at 3am and has her feed - she just won't settle afterwards! We burp/cuddle/sing to her but nothing seems to help. She stirs and whinges till her 6am feed! Where has my perferct sleeping baby gone??? Nevermind. We are coping, but starting to feel rather tired. Hope this is just a phase/growth spurt.

Brain is mush - Sorry can't do personals today!

Glad to see that Toni and Jordan have joined the ranks!

Talk soon girls....

[TrulyBlessed]

Hey guys

Sorry I've been lying low the last couple of days, I've been lurking & reading but not posting. But I've been struggling with myself over the whole bfing situation.

I was a dairy cow with Declan & having very little milk this time round has done my head in. I'm so not against formula but after coming to the realization with the whole boob situation & that I may not have been able to feed I was happy with my choice to FF if needed. But after getting the all clear I was so ready to go through the bfing journey with Abbie as I had with Declan. I guess I took bfing Declan for granted & obviously thought it would be the same this time round. But since my d&c I have had very little milk & have been trying loads of things to build my supply up but nothing is working so I have been doing the top up with formula & the last 2 days I have only had enough milk to feed Abbie for 1 feed. I was getting upset with the fact that I feel like I'm failing her. My head tells me 1 thing but its my heart thats telling me the other. I'm torn as to what to do I don't want to give up bfing but its really doing my head in & upsetting me that with everything I'm trying I just don't have the milk.

Sarah - I'm glad you had a good time up at the farm & yup I'm sure Amelia will love it when she's older. Wow on your hubby doing so well with the run. Enjoy your lunch.

Donna - I'm glad Addison has settled into a routine for you. You might find soon she might start sleeping longer stretches over night if she is cat napping. Here's hoping for you anyways.

Alison - with that feed in the early hours do you turn the lights etc on. It could be she's getting too over stimulated with nappy change & feed that she doesn't want to go back to sleep.

Jel - please know its not just you with the shorter temper. If I find myself feeling that way with Declan I try to leave the room & count to 10 with a few deep breaths & then go back.

Georgia - :hugs: hun the latching on can be painful fx that you get it sorted soon & don't end up with any grazes or anything.

Jordon - welcome to the otherside hun. Izzy is just beautiful. I just wanted to say that you are a wonderful mummy & the kids are lucky to have someone who cares for them. It will be your ex who will come to the realisation of what he's missed out on.

Toni - I hope the PE leaves soon hun.

Lavin - How are you and Mia doing now?

Judy - I hope you enjoyed your evening with your GF.

Donna (smiley) - how are you & bubs going hun?

:wave: to everyone else I've forgotten.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Good afternoon ladies...what a gorgeous day it is! Now for my whinge..........

Deon is now taking his turn of waking during the night every 3hrs after his midnight/1am feed. He sleeps for 5hrs after 7/8pm then wakes every 3hrs on the dot screaming and searching for food. I know that jaundiced babies sleep longer because they're not well and that's why he was sleeping previously but I'm now wondering how long it's going to take before my little man sleeps for 5hrs AFTER midnight seeing as the jaundice is subsiding. That would be perfect! Knowing my luck this will be the only baby that won't sleep properly. :fingerscrossed: that doesn't happen.

I'll do personals later.....I'm typing with a baby laid across my arm here.

:hugs: and enjoy the sunshine that's out there today!

[Jel]

Hi girls :wave:
Marley's been sleeping and sleeping today! yesterday must've worn her out!
I'm still expressing. She goes about 3-4 hourly for feeds. I try and feed her around 6ish and our bedtime 10.30ish - she's been waking once through the night for a feed and then the early morning one. It's working well at the moment, hope it stays that way for a while ;)
I feel like i'm constantly telling the girls to be quiet (they are quite a rowdy couple when they get going!!). We've got a fairly big house, so at least they can play relatively quiet down stairs - but I can't help thinking it's not that enjoyable at the moment for them.
Tomorrow DH goes back to work, and it's just me with the 3 of them. I hope it works ok, just need to take it easy and go with the flow. I'm not as teary this time around as last bub, so that's a start...


I was getting upset with the fact that I feel like I'm failing her. My head tells me 1 thing but its my heart thats telling me the other.
:hugs:

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

I was getting upset with the fact that I feel like I'm failing her. My head tells me 1 thing but its my heart thats telling me the other. I'm torn as to what to do I don't want to give up bfing but its really doing my head in & upsetting me that with everything I'm trying I just don't have the milk.


Alison - with that feed in the early hours do you turn the lights etc on. It could be she's getting too over stimulated with nappy change & feed that she doesn't want to go back to sleep.



I felt really guilty when I decided to FF Sierra and cried over it for weeks!, every time a clinic nurse or even strangers asked my why I was not breastfeeding (some of them were so rude about it!) I would break down crying everytime!. My head told me I was doing the right thing as atleast she was being fed, but in my heart I felt like I had failed her and everyone was judging me for it!.
This time I decided that if I could BF I would, but if I couldn't then I wasn't going to let anyone intimidate me or make me feel guilty.
Again I couldn't, but I think because I made that decision I feel much better about it this time and even though I have still gotten teary over a few things, it hasn't been about not breast feeding. I figure as long as bubs is getting food and is happy and healthy then why feel guilty over that!?.
Good luck with BF and I hope it works out for you, and if it doesn't, try not to beat yourself up about it :hugs:

Thanks for the advice about the light... we do keep one on so maybe I will have to get a lamp or something thats not so bright and put it in the room. The light we use isn't that bright but it may be bright enough to be overstimulating. I will see how we go anyway. I never had a prob with Sierra at night, as she was always a good sleeper even if the light was on, so I hadn't thought about the light this time :doh:

[loz10]

I have finally found my way over here :smiliedance:. The boys are in bed, not asleep but in bed :smiliedance:.

Oliver is due to wake very soon and I am busting to feed him, boobs are aching just thinking about it.

Georgia My boobs are much better, still hurts but no where near as much. Oliver seems to prefer the less sick boob LOL!

Amy My supply went down for a couple of days and I was like??? However, after drinking heaps of water all day long the supply slowly increased again. When I drink water I can feel my boobs making milk. Your D&C may have affected your supply, not sure luv :hugs:.

I have been doing 2 night feeds for the last few nights which last about 45mins-1hr each. However, DH has been getting up to the boys so this will be a shock to the system when he goes back to work :no:.

DH hasn't even slept in the bedroom as yet, he happily sleeps next door in the single bed watching TV whilst I and Oliver hog the bed/bedroom.

I have started co-sleeping sometimes (especially if I am just too tired to continue to muck around). He just crashes under my arm and is very content there for hours.

He is awake and doing big windy poo's. Now the evening has cooled down I can't wait to put him back in his bonds suit. I swear you don't need anything else but these :).

[GeorgiaAnne]

Oh Loz, you sound so in love with your boys, it is lovely :goodvibes: Glad your boobs are feeling better, mine are OK it's just the first 30 sec of toe curling, though when I think of this time last week, they were bleeding and engorged and oh so sore, I think i'm doing ok.
Jel - Hope you have a good night's rest and GL tomorrow with your 3. Like you say, go with the flow and don't expect it to be perfect 1st day by yourself.
Amy - :hugs: to you, be kind to yourself love. Just keep putting her on as often as possible and i'm sure your supply will build again. A gf of mine had a similar experience and kept with it and is still going strong at 18months feeding - the first 3 months had formula top ups.
Alison - Glad you're not beating yourself up this time, man, people can be rude, it sounds like you had a hard time with Sierra :hugs:
Hi to EO else! My family are all asleep so I think I might join them - see ya tomorrow :sleeping:

[smiley80]

mummadj sorry to hear ur having problems with ur supply. your in no way failing her hun its not ur fault u dont have enough milk.

emilys gone back to being unsettled again its doing my head in.. last two nites she wakes at 9pm and wont go down again.. then 12pm rolls up so i feed her again and 2am she finally goes down.. last nite hubby and i were at our wits end.. and to make things worse its his first day back at work today and hes had like 4 hrs sleep. I just wish i could settle her on my own so he could sleep :crying:. at this rate emilys gonna be an only child

[Pina Colada]

Oh, Donna, big :hugs:. I know exactly how you feel hon, and I'm so sorry for you and DH. DD1 was a shocker, she slept on my chest day and night for 9 weeks, and screamed every night from 7pm - 11pm. I'm so sorry you are finding it difficult at the moment. But you know what? And I know this doesn't help you right now, but it does get better. Just take it one day, one hour at a time. And do what I did (still do now) in those dark hours, I used to whisper to myself over and over, "this to shall pass" and take some deep breathes (you probably think I'm crazy now).

If you need a chat or a vent no matter how outrageous just PM me hon :hugs:

Just a thought - is she in a bassinette or a cot?

Me - well, Addison was restless and grumpy from 6pm - 8.30pm last night, and then slept through until nearly 3.30am :yelclap: In that time though, DD1 got me up twice :rolleyes: DS is still a bit unwell, but luckily sleeping alot so hopefully he will sleep it off.

Gastro bug seems to finally have left my system, thank goodness. I had it for 4 whole days. Nothing planned today really. I guess I'll have to start venturing out with all the kids at some stage, and I am actually planning on going to Kmart, but think I'll chicken out today as DS is pretty cranky.

I hope our bubs are all sleeping and feeding and cuddling well :flowerz:

[GeorgiaAnne]

mummadj sorry to hear ur having problems with ur supply. your in no way failing her hun its not ur fault u dont have enough milk.

emilys gone back to being unsettled again its doing my head in.. last two nites she wakes at 9pm and wont go down again.. then 12pm rolls up so i feed her again and 2am she finally goes down.. last nite hubby and i were at our wits end.. and to make things worse its his first day back at work today and hes had like 4 hrs sleep. I just wish i could settle her on my own so he could sleep :crying:. at this rate emilys gonna be an only child
:hugs::hugs: my dd was very difficult to settle for the first while. It does get easier but that doesn't help atm! Try and focus on the positive things you love about her when you have a rigid screaming baby in your arms and try, like Donna said to take deep breaths and relax. There is no cure, only time so try and go with the flow. Some babies just cry more than others, it is just their temperament.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Good morning all!

Deon had a bit of a restless period last night between 3-4am which wasn't fun. DP had a whinge cos he didn't want to be woken up but too bad for him. Babies sometimes do these things and we just have to deal with it until they find their own routine. I'm just grateful it's school holidays cos that meant I didn't have to wake early and Deon allowed the rest of us to sleep until 9am. :D

Jel it sounds like you're doing well there with your nightly routine. You lucky lady!

Alison did you try the low light suggestion? How did you go? We're lucky in that we have a dimmer switch in the loungeroom as it means Deon doesn't really get woken up too much.

Loz I also do the co-sleeping thing at those times when I am too buggered to be getting up and down all the time. Great to hear your boobs are settling too....it's such a relief when that happens. Oh and I have to agree with you on the Bonds wondersuits....I love them too.

Georgia that 30 seconds of toe curling should disappear soon. Mine has reduced to just an 'ouchy' feeling already.

Donna (smiley) the restless nights don't last for too long. It'll all be over before you know it and you'll wonder if it ever really happened at all. Is Emily bringing up her wind properly? Sometimes that causes bubs to be unsettled and can be very frustrating.

Donna (Sissy) you're doing well having Addison in such a good routine at night. I can't wait till I only have to wake once or even twice during the night. Don't rush to venture out with all the kids.....enjoy the relaxing time at home as it's much easier to go out when bub is a little bit older. Either that or do what I do - wait till DP is home and duck out on your own (it's like a holiday going out without kids) :D

[smiley80]

donna- emily is in a little cradle.. shes fine during the day she usually goes down no probs i can even put her down awake and shes quiet.... just at nite time she has to scream..

i try burping her as best i can.. sometimes just nothing will come up...

sarah well done taking bubs out for lunch im too scared to leave the house in case she screams the place down where ever we go wanting a feed.. especially a resturant
ive been doing the ducking out when hubbys at home.. and i find myself stressing and rushing to get back before she wakes

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Donna (smiley) is there any relation to Emily not burping and her not settling? There are a few different techniques if you want to have a look at this SITE. (http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_newborn/basics/burping.html) HTH hun.

[Pina Colada]

donna- emily is in a little cradle.. shes fine during the day she usually goes down no probs i can even put her down awake and shes quiet.... just at nite time she has to scream..



I asked cause DD1 didn't sleep in the bassinette, but when we put her in the cot (eventually!) she slept really well.

Night time screaming....yeah, some bubs just scream for no reason I think. DD1 did (7pm - 11pm every night), and one of my nephew did too. Hang in there hun, it should pass (provided you rule out reflux etc.). And there is no guarantee any bubs in the future will do it, I promise. DS was an angel of a newborn.

[Pina Colada]

Oh, and I know it is so hard, but trying to stay calm and not get upset or aggitated really plays a big part too sometimes. Bub picks up on your vibes and mirrors them sometimes. Try and stay as relaxed as possible (impossible I know) and it might help relax bub. Try singing softly, even if she is screaming and can't hear you.

[missmilliesmum]

Hi All :wave:

We had a great night last night! :smiliedance:
Amelia fed at 10.30pm and then slept through till 4am! but wait.....Fed her at 4am and then she slept through till 8am! She is very happy this morning and so is her Mummy!

For all those having trouble settling - here's what we tried last night and it appeared to have worked....

Amelia hadn't had a bath for a few days as her skin was flaking and peeling - so we thought we'd better give her a break - but then we thought....she loves her bath so much - maybe that's why she's been so unsettled overnight??? Her bath must calm and settle her. She had her bath at 7pm last night and slept very well after.

The other is as Amy said....minimal disturbance when doing the overnight feed. Last night I didn't turn any big lights on - just a soft night light and didn't talk to her when I was feeding/changing her and she went back to sleep!

The final thing was....if you use a dummy....My SIL suggested that I pop her dummy in straight after a feed as it helps them bring up wind. So after her 4am feed - I popped her dummy in after winding her and not getting much - she sucked away on it and brought up her own wind and went stright to sleep - spitting out her dummy when she was done!

Donna - GL at the shops today with all the kids if you end up going! You are a BRAVE woman!
Glad to hear that you're feeling much better!

Loz - Glad all is going so well for you! I too LOVE the bonds wondersuits! That's all I dress Amelia in most of the time! So easy and warm!

Donna (Smiley) - Sorry to hear that things have gone a bit backwards for you with Emily. Hope you can get her settled again real soon!

Jel - Glad to hear the Marley is doing so well and has a routine! Well done!

Judy - I hope Deon sleeps better for you tonight! He is probably used to feeding that regularly now unfortunately! I know also that Amelia slept alot more when she was Jaundice and when she got better - she became alot more alert and hungry!

Georgia - Hope the 'toe curling' stops soon. I still get it a little from time to time - but just initially with attatchment. Amelia was also not very good at attatching and we do sometimes still have issues. She is a bit lazy and doesn't even want to open her mouth sometimes!

Alison - Hope Caelyn settles and sleeps better for you soon! So glad you are not stressing about the whole BF issue. You are a smart cookie and a great Mum!

Amy - So sorry to hear you are struggling with BF. I understand - you were so glad you were able to BF after your Operation and now you have run into trouble. It's not your fault hun. If your supply is low and you've tried all you can you are not a failure! You have to look after your bub the best way you can and if formula keeps Abbie healthy and happy then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that at all! Try not to stress yourself out - you are a great Mum -just remember that!

Mille and I are just chilling at home today. Hopefully gonna go over to my Best Friend's house for a Cuppa and a Breast Feed! She also has a 6 week old baby! Oh...how times have changed!

[missmilliesmum]

Was writing my post while you girls were chatting!

Donna (Smiley) - You poor luv! Don't be afraid to go out with Emily. You would be amazed at how well she would behave, most likely. Babies love noise - so a noisy cafe/restaurant puts them to sleep. We also use a dummy -so if she gets a bit grizzly we try that. Don't forget you can always just go outside for a few minutes to try and settle her or worst case scenario - just leave if she's really unsettled.

Wind is hard isn't it? Amelia sometimes has wind that we can't get up. All you can do is keep trying! Maybe that site that
Judy recommended will have some tips?
Chin up hun - I'm sure it will all settle down soon.

[Lavin]

Hi Ladies,

Donna - Im glad that you have gotten over your bug and are feeling healthy again, how is little Addison going?

Amy - How are you doing today? Please dont feel too upset about b/f or ff. Even though i dont know exactly what you are going through, i know that last week when i decided to ff after only a week of bf i was so upset and still get a little teary now about the decision but i know that Mia is doing just fine with the formula so that makes me so happy knowing she is a healthy and happy bubs. I really hope that your milk supply builds back up soon and if you do end up ff pls dont beat yourself up because as long as bubs is healthy thats all that matters in the end. :)

Firstly i was just wondering if someone can tell me what procedure they use when out and about with bubs if you are formula feeding? do you take the pre made formula chilled out of the fridge and get it heated or do you take the formula and water separately and ask for the water to be heated at like a coffee shop or something? As formula is only good for an hour once out of fridge?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me! :yes:

Today we had our first check up with the community health nurse and Mia is almost back up to birth weight and doing fine so am very happy.
Still have the gastro bug and have had it for a week now but the nurse said it could also have a lot to do with the antibiotics for the mastitis and see how it goes when finished the dose. Have lost 7.5 kg in the last 11 days of the 11kg i gained during pregnancy so am hoping the bug goes soon to get back on track.

Have also been reading a really good book called save our sleep by Tizzie Hall, it has stacks of handy info/routines on loads of things and has been a great help (especially being a first time mum) :D

sorry for the novel of a post girls.

How is everyone else doing today?

Have a great arvo girls :hugs:

[GeorgiaAnne]

Smiley - Don't worry about your babe crying in public, no-one minds. It might help just to get out a bit :hugs:

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Firstly i was just wondering if someone can tell me what procedure they use when out and about with bubs if you are formula feeding? do you take the pre made formula chilled out of the fridge and get it heated or do you take the formula and water separately and ask for the water to be heated at like a coffee shop or something? As formula is only good for an hour once out of fridge?


What I do is heat the water before I go, put the bottle with the heated water in an insulated bag and take the formula in a dispenser (Avent have a good one) and then put it in when I need to. Some places wont heat up your water due to health and safety regulations as they would be liable if the water then burnt your child, or something like that.
A lot of mothers rooms also have a microwave in them so you can sometimes just take the water cold and then its easy to heat up the water while changing a nappy ;)
You soon get to know which shopping centres have what facilities so you soon get to know what way works for where your heading :)

[kymmy]

:wave:
I am finally able to post here!
J was very sleepy on his first day now today he wont stop feeding.

[GeorgiaAnne]

Congratulations Kymmy - what's his name?

[Jel]

Firstly i was just wondering if someone can tell me what procedure they use when out and about with bubs if you are formula feeding?
with previous bub i used to just take the water and formula separate in container - didn't worry about heating it to give it.:)

gee this bub of mine sleeps....:sleeping:
how much is everyone else's bub's sleeping through the day??

smiley - :hugs: i think all previous mum's know exactly what you are going through. I know I do anyway. There were many times where I'd think how am I going to cope... but we do, and most of us go on to have more little bubba's :cloud9:
i agree with the girls with trying to stay as relaxed as possible - and if things get too much, then bub spending a few minutes to cry while you 'count to ten' is fine too. I hope your dh is being supportive with you.

[Lavin]

Thanks Alison and Jel for answering my question :)
Will bubs still take the feed if you alternate between saying giving a heated feed usually and then a cold feed another?

Thanks again girls :hugs:

Jel - Mia sleeps in 3-4 hour blocks during the day in between feeds at the moment.

[loz10]

Afternoon

We all left the house today, yes DH too :laughing:.

We went to BigW and got a few new things and James was asking for a skateboard (he has never asked for one) so we bought a small one for $10 then he pointed out the Skate Park on the way home and said he wants to stop there with it LOL, how funny :thumbsup:.

Lavin I never used a bottle to around 7 months or so but my boys would only take a warm bottle, even if it is a stinking hot day. I started using a bottle if we were going to be out shopping for ages and they could give it themselves. They get quite naughty when b/f out when they get older and just leave your boob hanging out :no:. Nicholas still has 2 bottles a day and loves them, but will never drink it cold. GL working out what bub likes/dislikes, you will both have it worked out in no time :).

:wave: Kymmy How are you feeling?

Girls, I am starting to feel better and better everyday. However, I tried on so many clothes today and felt like **** in every outfit. I did find one pair of really stretchy jeans that actually fitted (from previous pg) and felt good in them because I could get them on. My tummy is like a ball of dough, it is going down but still very stodgy and unable to zip it into anything.

I am trying to re-size a heaps of pics to post, should be done today I hope.

[smiley80]

thanks for the advice everyone.. dh is being very supportive... he gets just as frustrated as i do... we'll see how she sleeps tonight although shes slept heaps today

[Jel]

Thanks Alison and Jel for answering my question :)
Will bubs still take the feed if you alternate between saying giving a heated feed usually and then a cold feed another?

in my experience, it depends what they're used to. they usually get what they're given ;). even with marley, she's drinking room temp expressed milk.

thanks for the advice everyone.. dh is being very supportive... he gets just as frustrated as i do... we'll see how she sleeps tonight although shes slept heaps today
at least you're working on this together and the pressure isn't all on you as mum. it's hard not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, but it is there :yes:
loz - congrats on your shopping adventure!

i've got to get the girls to swimming lessons tomorrow. WML :wizard:

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Evening ladies !

Lavinia sorry hun I'm no help on the FF thing. It's been too long since I FF DS2 and I have forgotten LOL

Kymmy congrats and great to see you again.....

Loz well done for feeling better and leaving the house to go shopping. I hear you on the clothes not fitting properly. I'm only just beginning to fit into my pre-pregnancy clothing and can't wait till I can begin excercising to flatten/tone up the flabby bits.

Donna (smiley) it's great that your DH is so supportive.....it makes a big difference in the early days of new motherhood.

Jel good luck tomorrow taking the girls to swimming lessons.....I hope Marley sleeps the entire time you're there so that you don't miss anything.

Me - I'm going to be busy trying to get Deon and Jasmine down for a nap at the same time tomorrow so that I can spend time with Justyn. He opened the rice bubbles today and cut out 3 recipes from the pack and wants to make something tomorrow. Wish me luck !

[Jel]

morning ladies :)
how are we?
all good here, marley woke at 3 and 7 so am happy with that. she's a little princess. she is wrapped around her dad's little finger already!

now for the adventure to the big wide world. got swimming at 10.30, better get these girls organised!

[GeorgiaAnne]

Ahhhh bliss - still in my pjs lying in bed with my baby listening to the rain...:sleeping::cloud9:

[Pina Colada]

:wave:

Jel - good luck at the swimming lessons. I just ventured out for the 1st time with all 3 kids by myself. I even went to Kmart and Woolworths. They were incredibly well behaved, so proud of them (and me! :D)

Georgia - lucky you still in you pj's in bed with bubba! Enjoy :cloud9:

Addison has a congested nose (no doubt from big brother kisses :rolleyes:) so we didn't have the best night, she woke every 2 hours or so. We had the steam vapouriser on, and I squirted Little Fess up her nose everytime she woke up, and that's pretty much all I can do.

Since I went shopping this morning, the house is a crazy disaster, so I'm spending the rest of the day cleaning it, because Yasmine is at school tomorrow, and I plan to get Liam and Addison down for naps at the same time, and if the house is a mess I'll probably clean instead of relaxing! And I reeeeally want to relax for a couple of hours :yelclap:

[kymmy]

Day 3 - Jhansen wont stop feeding! Like his big sis.
Feeling okay but have restless legs - driving me crazy.

[Tls5431]

Hi All

I hope everyone is well and both mums and bubs are happy and not too tired.

Yesterday was my first day without DH and I have to say even though Zarah was unsettled etc, we seem to have everything on track and under control without DH fluffing about. We had a bad night on Sunday night with an unsettled baby who ended up being overtired yesterday, but things improved last night and today.

Jel - how was your swimming lesson? Sounds like Marley is doing well and let you have a bit of a sleep last night.

Loz - glad to hear you are feeling better.

Sissy - I hope Addison starts to feel better soon.

[Jel]

Well bub's asleep again. She was good at swimming (in the pram - not swimming!!) as were my other 2. :yes:

when we got home she was overdue for a feed, and the girls kept demanding things there and then, fighting with each other and making life difficult for poor old mum. shed a few tears.

[Lavin]

Hi Ladies,

Jel - Glad that swimming went well this morning, hope you are feeling happier now! Thanks again for the advice! :)

Loz - Thanks, how did James go with his new skateboard? Glad you are starting to feel better :D

Judy - How was your cooking today? How is Deon going?

Donna - Hope you got some time to relax this arvo like you wanted, thats great that you got all 3 kids out and about by yourself, im still not keen to venture very far just yet, but will get there eventually!

Having a quiet day today, my niece came round to visit her first cousin so that was nice, hubbys parents are coming over to say goodbye as they went on holiday after visiting us and then spending another night here tonight before heading back to Adelaide. Mia has been sleeping quite a fair bit lately, mainly during the day, but only waking about 3 times a night for a feed. I just cant believe how quickly the time flies!

Hope everyone is having a good arvo :hugs:

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Thanks Alison and Jel for answering my question :)
Will bubs still take the feed if you alternate between saying giving a heated feed usually and then a cold feed another?

No worries!.
Sierra never seemed to mind whether her formula was a little cold or not, but so far Caelyn has only had hers warmed so not sure about her preferences.



how much is everyone else's bub's sleeping through the day??

Caelyn is sleeping heaps too!. She sleeps in 4 hour blocks between feeds, and the last two nights she has slept a massive 6-7 hours between her feed at 11pm and 6am!. The last two days she has started waking a bit more though during the day, maybe 20 mins at a time before noding off again.



Girls, I am starting to feel better and better everyday. However, I tried on so many clothes today and felt like **** in every outfit. I did find one pair of really stretchy jeans that actually fitted (from previous pg) and felt good in them because I could get them on. My tummy is like a ball of dough, it is going down but still very stodgy and unable to zip it into anything.

I know what you mean!!. I have to say that the belly afterwards really has to be my least liked part of having a baby!!. Cant wait to get back into exercise!.


Ahhhh bliss - still in my pjs lying in bed with my baby listening to the rain...:sleeping::cloud9:
So jealous!!, that sounds so nice!.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Hiya !

Well I thought that school holidays were going to be easy but it seems that my kids have other ideas. Trying to get DD to have a nap at the same time as Deon is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.....almost impossible! I even had to wait till DP came home for lunch just so that I could jump in the shower. At least Deon is now having a nap so that's one less hassle.

Donna (Sissy) kick back and relax hun. The housework will still be there later and you'll feel heaps better within yourself after a few hours of doing nothing.

Kymmy I love the name you have chosen for your little man....it's so unique. Hope those restless legs ease up soon.

Tls it's great to hear you and Zarah have settled so well today. Let's hope it continues for you.

Jel well done on taking the kids swimming. How did Marley go while she was overdue for a feed?

Lavinia we're just about to begin making chocolate crackles any minute ! I'll save you some if DS2 doesn't eat them all first. Mia is a little angel sleeping so well for mummy...maybe she'll turn things around soon and do most of her sleeping at night.

Alison I'm so jealous that Caelyn sleeps for so long at night! I'm hanging out for Deon to sleep longer than 4-5hrs just so that I can get a decent sleep.

[GeorgiaAnne]

Hi chicks
Alison - 6-7 hours :eek::eek: Nice! Did Sierra sleep through at an early age?
Judy - I tried to co-ordinate sleeps as well, no luck:rolleyes:
Jel - Well done on getting eo back and forth, a few tears along the way seems pretty fair enough:hugs:
Toni - Sounds like you're doing well by yourself - good on ya!
Donna - Hope you got all your jobs done today so you can relax tomorrow. I'm spoilt - my cleaners came today and we are sparkly :smiliedance:

Had a nice quiet day and have just baked some lactation boosting cookies, more out of interest as my supply is fine. They are quite yum, though I think that about anything with brown sugar in it!

[hayleysmummy]

Afternoon ladies,

Ilogged on yesterday and typed my whole birth story out then went to feed bub came back finished off the last bit and because I'd been gone longer than 10mins I was automatically logged out and the whole thing dissapeared I was so p!ssed off so Ijust left it and thought I'd catch up today

DS has been an angel only waking every 3-4hrs during the night for a feed then straight back to sleep, DD has also been great considering we all sleep in the one room she never wakes when he cries. Aaron still has only seen the kids twice since Izrael has been born and its beginning to really upset me (I feel for the kids), he also owes me quite a bit of money and keeps making excuses about why he cant pay it back he doesnt seem to understand that I'm struggling at the moment until I get our finances sorted god he makes me so angry, sorry about the vent but I feel better now with all that going on though my kids keep me sane I cant believe how easy it is to love 2 just as much as you did the first (which I thought would be impossible)

Judy- Ihope you enjoyed your shower, Ilove it when mums here and I can just leave bub in bed while she plays with DD its absoloute bliss, How did Justyns cooking go?

Jel- I'm glad swimming went well for you, its ok to shed a tear whenever you need to :hugs: I often feel very overwhelmed with the 2 and just want to scream. You are doing a great job

Alison- Caelyn sounds like such a laid back bub you are so lucky

Loz- I'm feeling good too and can sympathize with you about the clothes the day after I gave birth I was so excited I got out my pre-preggy pants and they were so tight, I think I knew they wouldnt fit but I couldnt help but try :laughing: the tummy has gone down really quickly though so it shouldnt be too long, I still love my maternity jeans so dont mind living in those for a while longer :D

Kymmy- Congrats again hun and I lovethe name you have chosen for your little man

Sissy- heres hoping little Addisons nose clears up in no time How is she this afternoon?, I actually worry about this myself with DD attending kindy and smothering her baby brother they also share the breats which makes me wonder if DS could pick up her germs from the nipple but I suppose its bound to happen at some point

Well the kiddies will be awake soon and need a bath so I'll be back to catch up tonight when/if they re sleeping

hugs to all

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Georgia I always wondered about those cookies. I was thinking of making some as well....one day. :laughing:

Judy-How did Justyns cooking go?Brilliantly thanks Jordan. They're already set and have been tested. Jasmine loves them but she loves anything that is chocolate (as does Justyn) so that was to be expected.

What a b!tch about your post disappearing. I find it's easier to type things in Notepad and then copy and paste in here.....it saves losing what you've spent so long in typing out.

Glad to hear you're all doing well. Try not to worry about Aaron not seeing the kids very often...he'll realise one day what damage he has done when the kids 'can't be bothered with him' (as my XH found out). Hit him up for the $ he owes you as often as you can and don't let him out of that one. You and the kids should never have to go without because of him being inconsiderate.

:hugs:

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Re: sleeping- Hopefully we will be lucky and Caelyn's new trend of sleeping longer at night will stick around. Sierra slept through from about 1 month old and has done so ever since except maybe if she is teething.

Georgia- I have never heard of Lactation Cookies before! Sounds interesting.

Judy- Im wondering how im going to get time for a shower once DH goes back to work... Its amazing the simple things you take for granted before you have kids!.

Jordan- Sounds like you have two little angels there!, thats great that you all sleep so well in the same room!.
Aaron will eventually regret all the time he missed out with his kids, its just a shame the kids have to miss out on having their father around... Some men just dont get it. Hope you get that money out of him :iagree:with what Judy said.
Oh and Caelyn is a pretty laid bubby, except when it comes to feed time, and then its like I have a short window to get that food in her mouth before she screams bloody murder!. Even Sierra never screamed as loudly or as high pitched!

[GeorgiaAnne]

Morning ladies :wave:
We had a bit of a shocker last night, my little man seemed to be on a feeding frenzy then was quite windy, poor sausage. Eventually, I brought him to bed with me and he snuggled in for a nap. I'm not keen to encourage that though.
The cookies were yummy, even dh liked them as he ate about 10 of them :rolleyes:

[Teto]

Georgia, we're the same, we've had a few shocker evenings and ended up with her in our bed, which is not ideal. She seems to transfer into her cot eventually though. I figure as long as she wakes up there she will become comfy there.

[GeorgiaAnne]

Yeah, I really don't want to start it but he is such a cuddle monster it is the path of least resistance.
It seems he has a slight tongue tie as well which may be causing the feeding difficulties. I;m a bit crabby about it as it wasn't picked up in hosp where they could've fixed it straight away. AO with any exp. with this.
How's Cameo going?

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a tongue tie?

[Teto]

Georgia, tongue tie can definitely make feeding more painful I think. I'm not sure if Rip had it but we sure struggled for a long time. This time around my nipples are sore/sensitive but probably within the normal range and feeding is a lot easier, which I'm joyful about!

I think she has self settled (mostly) the last two naps so that's exciting! We just had a very short outing to mother's group but I still feel very washed out (combination of PPH blood loss and this insane viral chesty mucus thing which has reappeared with a vengeance) so I'm taking things slow.

[Teto]

Alison, tongue tie is when the little membrane underneath your bub's tongue is too tight or short or something and it impedes bub getting his tongue properly under the nipple.

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Ahh ok, thanks for that!.

[GeorgiaAnne]

Alison, tongue tie is when the little membrane underneath your bub's tongue is too tight or short or something and it impedes bub getting his tongue properly under the nipple.

I'm pretty sure that's what's causing our problems as he just seems to come off a lot, some feeds I have to re-attach him 5 or more times. Totally different to Sophia who was like a leech (bless her!)

[missmilliesmum]

Hi Girls :wave:,

Georgia/Mia - We had a shocker last night too and ended up with Millie in our bed! I too am not keen on this as I am worried I will smoother or hurt her and may be setting up bad habbits, but it was the only option at the time and you need your sanity and your sleep!
I too am unwell. Tummy bug I think - which may be contributing to Amelia being unsettled.

Georgia - You've got me thinking about this tongue tie. Like Alison - I had never heard of it. I have had a lot of problems with attatchment with Millie and sometimes have to attatch her up to 5 times also! How can you tell? Cause she was prem - I think everyone just put her feeding problems down to that. I have a paed appointment for her in 2 weeks time and I will definately be asking about that! What are you going to do about Charlie?

Mia - I get upset when we have a bad night as Amelia has been self-settling from day dot! I start to think...Oh no Oh no Oh no!!! Hope she gets back to it! Cameo sounds like she is doing well minus the sleepless nights. Are the iron tablets helping you to feel better? Bummer that you've got the dreaded illness back!

Amelia is also not sleeping well during the day at the moment either. She used to nap so well, but now she will only sleep for an hour and then wake up and start screaming! Where has my placid baby gone? *Sigh*

Hope we all have a better night tonight! :sleeping:

[JJJ&D'sMum]

:wave: everyone!

We had our first visit to the MCHN today and my greedy little man has stacked on 330gms in just one week. No wonder my nipples are still so tender! He is a strong little man who is quickly recovering from his jaundice and is already passing the 4 wk strength tests so I don't think we're going to have any problems at all from now on in.

Georgia I can't help you on the tongue tie thing, sorry. I've heard of it but never experienced it. Can something still be done if it's identified at your dr's app?

Mia you're doing well to attend mothers group. I still haven't returned to DD's Mums & Bubs group but may get there next week, I'm not sure yet. How long will it take for you to recover rom the PPH blood loss? :fingerscrossed: it doesn't take long so that you can use your energy to get over the horrible virus that is doing the rounds.

Sarah :hugs: for your tummy bug pains. We also had an unsettled night with both DD and Deon. DD woke at 5am in tears (teething) so she ended up in bed with me and then Deon wouldn't settle after his 6am feed so he ended up in the bed as well. Luckily DP had gone to work as there wouldn't have been enough room.
Most babies have a growth spurt at about 1 month of age so I wonder if that's what is causing Amelia to be unsettled?

Hope everyone is having an enjoyable day!

[Jel]

hi girls :wave:
had bub to myself today, as the girls are at day care :thumbsup:
we had her newborn hearing test done, which was a bit of a worry because one of her ears wasn't responding, but in the end she passed with flying colours :flowerz:
i remember with dd1 we had to have her retested as she was a caesar bub, which is common due to the increased fluid around the ears. i shed a few tears today while bub was being tested. bloody tears - go away! :rolleyes:
called in to work briefly and showed her off to a few people and came home to a well earned rest!
we had planned on tackling coles and doing a few things but haven't gotten around to it as YET! might have to drag dd2 along and do the majority of it tomorrow.
dd2 is being such a terror of late...in the middle of 'terrible 2's', and probably feeling displaced as the baby is really causing issues (for all of us!). she constantly says 'no' to everything i ask of her and it's wearing very thin. it's nice to have a day like today where i get some time out from the squabbling between dd1&dd2.

marley was unsettled last night too, must've been the night for it
tongue-tie - maybe that's what dd2 had when she was a baby, does it make they're tongue have a split in the end a bit like a snake?

must be time for a cuppa :idea:

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Dont hate me, but we actually had a good night last night... Im hoping this continues to happen although now Ive said that it probably wont!.

Jel- Caelyn was the same with her hearing test, one ear took a while but still passed, they said it was because of fluid... will be keeping an eye on it anyway!.
Hope you enjoyed your cuppa!!.

Judy- Thats awesome news about Deon, sounds like he is doing great!

:hugs:to everyone not feeling well! Hope these stomach bugs are short lived!.

[loz10]

Good evening

Alison Caelyn sounds like she is onto a good thing atm, hope she keeps it up for you. I have been feeding twice a night so happy with that for now.

I feel like I sleep next to a little piglet, I can't see Oliver in his Bassinet but hear snorking all night long :goodvibes: LOL!!

Jel I know what u mean about feeling strung out, I have been out maybe twice with bub and feel so relieved to get home.

DH and I with Nicholas and Oliver were heading into Woolies today to food shop (absolutely nothing in our freezer) and came home with no groceries whatsover. I had to feed as soon as we arrived and then we ran out of time as the Community Nurse was coming to do our first home visit. Oliver is now 3.05kg (born 2.6kg) so happy with that and he has grown a massive LOL 1/2 a cm :laughing:. He is already becoming a little nugget.

The boys are going to bed soon :smiliedance:, the have started coming alive after dinner which only makes us want to put them to bed earlier and earlier.

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

LOL Loz, Caelyn doesn't snort the whole time but we always know when shes getting ready to start crying for a feed cause its then the snorts start lol!. They are so adorable!.
Im hoping to get her weighed tomorrow... I have a feeling shes gained a LOT!.

We have also done the grocery shop and coming home with no groceries!... We finally succeeded last Sunday though, but have decided that as soon as Woolworths online shopping comes to our area we are doing it online!!.

[loz10]

I wish we could use online shopping, I would love that. Grocery shopping isn't avail to us as we are Regional :no:.

I have been mucking around with Tickers and pics for ages and still can't remember how to change the writing against your Avatar :hair:...can anyone help?

I have posted pics in my profile for viewing :).

[loz10]

Never mind, I just worked it out, must have grown a bit of temporary brain!

[hayleysmummy]

Hi girls

I'm trying to type one handed so excuse any spelling mistakes

Alison I've also been lucky with bubs sleeping habits he has his fussy moments for a couple of hours in the morning. I say enjoy it it wont last long and we'll have teething screamers :)

Judy thanx for the info about pumping I havent done it again and the boobs have settled quite a bit

Jel I can sympathise with you on 1 going through the terrible 2's Friday is kindy day here and I just cant wait I hope you enjoyed your day with just you and bub

Loz I just had a peek at your pics Oliver is gorgeous I love how soft they look and so kissable you are looking really good too, I also just finished putting more pics in my album you inspired me :D

Gosh did anyone else forget just how many times a newborn could poo? in one end out the other

Well I'm off to get my washing out of the dryer (such hard work) :laughing:

[GeorgiaAnne]

Gosh did anyone else forget just how many times a newborn could poo? in one end out the other

Yup, I did, every single nappy change and it's much fiddlier with boys I think.

Loz - Those photos are divine, I love the way James is looking at Oliver in that first one, just gorgeous :valentine:
Alison - Don't feel bad about having a good sleeper. DD was great 'til she was about 6 months old so I remember a full nights sleep, though a while ago :laughing:
Jel - Glad you got some quiet today and time just with Marley. Tongue tie refers to the bit under the tongue not the actual tongue so i'm not sure about the snake shape, sorry.
Judy - Yay for Deon, it's lovely when they pack on the weight, glad he's all good after the jaundice.
Sarah - Sorry Amelia is a bit more unsettled, I guess she's at term now, maybe that has something to do with it. I have quit analysing sleep/unsettledess as I find it never really helps me, I find it easier just to go with the flow and just do whatever works, even if it's not the "right" thing to do eg: 2 year old still having a bottle before bed :o

All is well here, 2 lil bubs in bed and dh is at work so I can watch cr@ppy tele in bed without grief.
Here's hoping we all have a better night tonight :fingerscrossed:.

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Loz- Those pictures are so cute!:yelclap:
We can order online already, but the place that delivers to this area are quite expensive and dont have a lot, the Woolies one is a bit cheaper and they have more variety however they dont deliver to this area yet, but are supposed to be expanding sometime soon.... just wish I knew how soon, or if I should be holding my breath!.

Georgia- I am definitely enjoying it while it lasts!!, Sierra has always been good at sleeping through (7:30pm to 7am!) so am keeping my FX that Caelyn will be the same!.

Jordan- thats great that you have a good sleeper!. Your probably right though, we will have a horrid time once they start teething for sure!:rolleyes:

Oh, and about the poo...Caelyn has probably been doing 1 a day, and I put that down to formula feeding... although shes already doing the big explosive poos that go up the back :no:

[Teto]

Oh MANNN we have had a shocker afternoon/evening. Little Piglet (her middle name is Scarlett and someone said they knew someone by that name who got called Piglet - well, it kind of suits her, she has such a fat neck and big appetite) is so unsettled, after numerous feeds and ongoing crying and failure to sleep DP eventually resorted to a dummy, makes me feel like a failure, waaaaah!

k off to bed while I can!

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Jel great news that Marley passed her hearing test....that must be a relief for you. I hope you enjoyed your toddler free day.

Alison half your luck for having a good night. Can you send some of that luck this way please? ;)

Loz Oliver sounds like he's doing really well there.....I'm now having visions of a BF'ing nugget and I can tell you, it's a strange vision. :laughing:

Jordan I'm glad you have some relief in the boob dept. Did you try the hot shower at all? I found the hot water on the boobs sooooo relaxing last week when I was in the same condition as you are.
Re: the poo thing - I'm finding that Deon is totally different to Jasmine. She only used to poo once every 8 days or so but Deon poo's every single nappy change and it smells weird. At least I know that his jaundice is being reduced quicker cos jaundice poo has a distinct smell to it.

Georgia enjoy your cr*ppy tv time in bed. I had an hour of tv time without kids earlier and it was lovely.

Mia don't feel like you failed. Dummies can be life savers at times and they don't have them forever. Think of it as your sanity saver instead.

Deon is currently asleep and after waking him last night after 4hrs in the hope that he'd sleep longer and having it fail miserably, I'm not going to waste my time tonight. If he chooses to have his 5-6 hr sleep at this time of the night then so be it. I can't force him to change his own habits so I'm just going to go with the flow instead. He'll sleep longer when he's ready.

Enjoy your night ladies!

[kymmy]

:wave:

J is so exhausting but that's normal isn't it? I miss sleep.
Lucky atm cos big kids at nan's and had my sils pack up the house.
Trying to rest still.
Just cuddles and feed and sleep.
We are co sleeping atm and probably continue as I hate to get up if I don't have to.
J is in mcn and goes all night.
Nasty nappy this morn taken care of by hubby. :D
Had his first bath with Dad this morn.

Trying to keep up with the bubbas. :sleeping:
:hugs:

[missmilliesmum]

Morning ladies! :wave:

Much better night here last night! Wait for it...My little Munchkin slept for 8 hours!!!! We could not believe it after the shocker the night before! She is Mummy's little angel again! I feel human today.

Loz - Oliver is just gorgeous and so tiny like Millie was. She is much bigger now! Taking her to CAFHS to be weighed today - she was 3.0 kgs 2 weeks ago - so I am hoping she has gained around 500g but we will see! It looks like your boys just love Oliver - especially James. Sweet photos. Millie also snorts like a little piglet when she is sleeping and about to wake! It wakes me up - but is soooo cute!

Georgia - I agree you can't get too caught up in what they are 'supposed' to do and just do what works for them at the time. I am a big believer in 'going with the flow'!

Mia - I hear you on the dummy front. We didn't use one for 2 weeks with Millie and I felt like a failure when we succumbed - but now we couldn't live without it and she loves it! Also - she generally only uses it to settle and then spits it out - so I just put it away till she needs it next. Hope you have a better day/night with Cameo today/tonight!

Jel - Hope you have a better day with the girls today! Hope your 2yo behaves for you and Marley is settled. Hang in there! You ladies with 2 or more kids are amazing I think! Don't know how I will ever do it!

Alison - I am so happy that Caelyn is sleeping so well for you! Hope it keeps up!

Jordan - Izzy is so cute. Glad he is settled. I know what you mean about the poo's! Soooo many! The funny thing is that Millie seems to save all her rteally big one's up till her daddy gets home and he has all the really bad nappy changes! He He! Wish I had a clothes dryer!!! It's outside or a stupid clothes horse for us - our house looks like a bloody laundromat in winter!

Judy - I really hope Deon starts sleeping through for you. Millie's sleeping patterns are so irregular. I am hoping that this sleeping through the night thing will stick...but I have my doubts!

Incase you haven't noticed - our pet name for Amelia is Millie! We call her both names. I want her to know that her 'proper' name is Amelia - but Millie is just a cute shortening! Except that my MIL refuses to EVER call her Millie :banghead:(Ummm...isn't it our child - that we can name whatever we want!!!) Nevermind!

Hope eveyone has a nice day! The sun is shining here...so definately going for a walk shortly! :)

[GeorgiaAnne]

:eek::eek: 8 hours Sarah NICE ONE!!! Man, your boobs must've been like rocks by then!

We had a pretty good night up at 10, 2 and 5 and no worries back to sleep so i'm feeling ok today.
Off to the GP re: the tongue tie so FX it is something do-able.

[Lavin]

Afternoon Ladies,

How was everyones nights last night?

Mia only woke twice for a feed last night and feel so good today for the extra sleep! :yelclap:

Judy - Thats great news about Deon, i hope that he starts sleeping through for you soon. How did those chocky crackles go? Any left? They sound so good, i havent gotten around to cooking much lately! and hubby is such a good cook!

Alison - Wow sleeping from one month, that sounds fantastic!

Loz - Oliver is such a gorgeous little boy

Sarah - Hope you have a nice walk in the beautiful sunshine

Mia - How did your night go last night, did you get more sleep in? Hope you are feeling more rested today!

Absolutely nothing planned here for today and it feels so good to say that, Mia just had another feed so just got her head back down, so will see how long that lasts for. I ordered some thankyou cards online after sending some photos for them and they will arrive sometime next week, woohoo cant wait to get them!

Have a great arvo girls :hugs:

[Lavin]

Georgia hope everything goes well today and they can fix the tongue tie asap :hugs:

[TrulyBlessed]

Hey guys hope you are all keeping well. Thanks for the kind words & hugs about the milk supply issues.

Judy - wow 330g in 1 week is great hun. Mumma's milk must be good.

Jel - I'm glad to hear Marley passed the hearing test.

Alison - Glad to hear Caelyn is sleeping well. How's Sierra going & you?

Loz - How is James liking his new skateboard? Love the pics of Oliver.

Jordon - Glad the kids are being good for you hun.

Georgia - those biscuits are very morish I find lol. Dh wasn't game to eat any when I made them cause I told him they were to help build my supply, I wonder if he thought he might start lactating haha.

Donna (smiley) - how are things going for you hun?

Donna (Sissy) - How is Addison's nose? My SIL swears by breast milk in the nose to help clear it up.

Sarah - Wow 8hrs. I bet you feel so much better after a solid sleep.

Lavina - Glad Mia is doing well hun. Hope you are feeling better soon.

Kymmy - Congrats on the arrival of your little man & I'm glad your able to get some rest & others are helping out.

Toni - Glad you coped without DH.

Mia - are you also on iron tablets for the PPH? I'm needing to take mine for 3 months they said & blah they're like horse tablets lol.

As for us Abbie is doing well still, not much change on the bfing issue but I've decided to stop beating myself up over it as there isn't much else that I can do to help try & build supply up so I'm just going with the flow & if it builds up it does & if it doesn't at least she's still getting some BM.

Went for my u/s review today & looks like that I still have a little friend hanging around so I guess I'll be getting the game plan from the gyno tomorrow but I'm guessing by what they were saying at the last appt it will be another d&c here.

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Alison - Glad to hear Caelyn is sleeping well. How's Sierra going & you?

Georgia - those biscuits are very morish I find lol. Dh wasn't game to eat any when I made them cause I told him they were to help build my supply, I wonder if he thought he might start lactating haha.



Sierra and I are doing well. Sierra is going through a sooky and clingy stage at the moment which we have put down to her adjusting to Caelyn. I feel bad when Im holding Caelyn and Sierra decides she wants to be picked up too and I have to say no to her, and she cries and then chucks a tanty over it:rolleyes:.
Im good, just tired (isn't everyone!?)

I had to laugh about the comment about your DH being worried he might start lactating :laughing:, Men are so funny, he probably is a little worried about it!.

Afternoon Ladies,

How was everyones nights last night?

Mia only woke twice for a feed last night and feel so good today for the extra sleep! :yelclap:
Alison - Wow sleeping from one month, that sounds fantastic!


My night was good, Caelyn slept from 11 till 5 this morning so not bad !.
Thats awesome that Mia is sleeping and feeding well too!.

We were lucky with Sierra, shes always been a good sleeper during the night, but not during the day!. But as long as they are sleeping at night I think you can cope with the not sleeping during the day... although it might make everyone a little cranky!.



Off to the GP re: the tongue tie so FX it is something do-able.

GL, hope they can do something for you!


Morning ladies! :wave:

Much better night here last night! Wait for it...My little Munchkin slept for 8 hours!!!! We could not believe it after the shocker the night before! She is Mummy's little angel again! I feel human today.


Georgia - I agree you can't get too caught up in what they are 'supposed' to do and just do what works for them at the time. I am a big believer in 'going with the flow'!



Thats great on the 8 hours!!, Its amazing how great you feel with some decent sleep!

:iagree:On the getting caught up on the 'supposed to be doings' Every child is different, so going with the flow is the best way I figure!.

Me- Took Caelyn to the Clinic Nurse today, she has put on 145gms since leaving hospital, so shes still not at her birth weight according to these scales, but as they are different scales to the ones in the hospi the Nurse said that she might in fact be back to birth weight or heavier. So not worrying about it at the moment. Will weigh her again next week and as we will be using the same scales then we will have a better idea of if shes gaining well. Other than that everything looks good!.

Well DH and I are about to go shopping with the two munchkins... we aren't food shopping so it should be fine lol.

Sorry if Ive missed anyone... there was a big gap between me writing this and posting it as I had to get Sierra up and then feed Caelyn... so hopeing everyone is well and will catch up later!

:hugs:to all that need them!

[smiley80]

hi ladies... wow so much to catch up on.. sorry to hear some of u are now having sleep issues... a midwife told me babies will usually have one unsettled period a day and one unsettled day a week..
Emilys been pretty good.. she definately has one unsettled period a day but its always at a different time.. the other nite she only woke at 1am then 6am for a feed.... but then she'll wake more often the next nite...
Took her and the furbaby for a walk today that was nice.. and had her weighed shes put on another 310g in one week.. im gonna have a little budda on my hands soon..
Mummadj Excuse my ignorance but whats a d&c? ur little friend?? maybe ive missed a post somewhere.. and good luck with the breast feeding i hope ur supply picks up

[hayleysmummy]

Georgia- I agree its def much fiddlier with boys especially when I forget to point Izzy's willy down and then wonder why his clothes are soaked :laughing:

Mia- please dont feel like a failure hun I tried so hard to get Izzy to have a dummy the other night so I could just have a shower but he kept spitting it out so I had to let him cry for a while :( if Cameo is settled with it then I think its fine you havent failed

Judy I'm glad Deons jaundice is exiting his lil body, even if it is a bit stinky :D better out than in hey? I find going with the flow easiest you may get a longer sleep in that way. I tried expressing a little out in the shower but nothing would come out so I just put DD on to relieve it a little then took her off boobs have settled right down now though.

Kymmy- J is absoloutley gorgeous and what better way to have his first bath enjoying it with daddy. Enjoy co-sleeping I love it with DD just a little scared we will squash DS so I have to have him in his own bed.

Sarah 8 hrs you lucky mummy I hope I'm that lucky once bub gets himself into some routine. Daddy is one lucky man getting to deal with Millies nappies :wink:

Smiley 310g in a week is great, I'm glad you enjoyed your walk

[Teto]

We haven't had to use the dummy today as she has self settled really well, but the witchy hours are still ahead of us tonight, hmmm.

Me, I'm still figuring out how to clean a girl's bottom!

I'm off for a hot shower and the pyjamas before the miss wakes up, yay.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Kymmy how's the moving going? I hope you have plenty of help especially seeing as though you're not getting much sleep atm.

Sarah you lucky lady getting 8hrs sleep! I can't wait for that day when it happens to me. How were your boobs when Amelia woke up? Hopefully not too full/engorged.

Lavinia there are still some chocolate crackles left believe it or not. My kids don't go mental with food so things tend to last.....maybe that's cos I've taught them not to be pigs. :D

Amy :hugs: for you hun. You've been through so much and you're doing so well. I really hope this is the last hurdle for you.

Alison have you tried holding Caelyn while sitting in the middle of the couch? That way, Sierra can snuggle up to you and you can tend to both kids. I do that with Jasmine and she is quite content as she can cuddle up to me as well as Deon at the same time if she chooses to.

Donna Emily is doing well gaining so much weight and sleeping so well. I'm envious of all the bubs who sleep longer than 4hrs.

Jordan I'm glad your boobs have settled a bit. Hopefully it stays that way for you.

Mia good luck for those 'witchy hours' tonight. :fingerscrossed: they don't happen.

Deon is being rather unsettled already tonight. I'm hoping that he wears himself out and then sleeps better later on. I really don't want another restless night on my hands.

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Alison have you tried holding Caelyn while sitting in the middle of the couch? That way, Sierra can snuggle up to you and you can tend to both kids. I do that with Jasmine and she is quite content as she can cuddle up to me as well as Deon at the same time if she chooses to.


Deon is being rather unsettled already tonight. I'm hoping that he wears himself out and then sleeps better later on. I really don't want another restless night on my hands.

Yeah, Sierra doesn't like to sit still for too long so that doesn't tend to work for us:no: She has this thing where if your standing up she thinks you should be nursing her (except when out, and in that case shes trying to make her escape!) but sit down and shes imedietly not interested and wants to go do her own thing!. I cant pick her up much at the moment cause of my back so she then chucks a tantrum, and she will do that even if im not holding Caelyn, although its worse then :(

:fingerscrossed:that Deon sleeps better tonight for you!

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Alison I wish there was a magic potion I could send to you to make life easier. :hugs: hun and hopefully Sierra will settle once she comes to terms with having to share her mummy. Is your back getting any better yet?

Deon is so unsettled that I'm typing one handed atm cos he screams every time he is put down. He's popping off like a firecracker so maybe his little body is almost finished with the runny jaundice poo's and is getting ready for normal BF ones. Who knows though.

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Oh, a magic potion would be wonderful lol, I bet we could all use one of those!:yes:

My back is still bad, but im walking a bit better and Im not in so much pain at night, although still have to take some neurofen (sp?) before bed. The Physio lent me a support belt that I wear when Im up and about and a few belly band things that are to help me pull everything in and up as well for extra support. Also have exercises I have to do as well.

Good job on the one handed typing!. I hope Deons 'popping off' means normal poos :) Is he looking a lot less yellow now?

[GeorgiaAnne]

man i've got a cranky boy tonight he is screeching and shrieking poor soul, i think it must be wind.
Alison - Sophia went through a stage exactly like that with the being picked up etc etc. It's hard when you're trying to get stuff done I hear ya!
I'm going to try and get this boy to bed who is on my lap.
Judy - Here's to more than 4 hours sleep :babydust2:
Nigh nigh

[Teto]

Alison, I have those belly band things to wear too, I get really bad abdominal separation during pg so my guts are all floppy after and they help to give a bit of support. It's a chore but there you go. My skeleton (back and pelvis mainly) have been really complaining too, I think it's the adjustment back from baby bearing to not. Very creaky old bones here.

Well we had a pretty bad night as feared lol, but I'm not too down about it. We did resort to the dummy a couple of times. This little one is a bit of a day sleeper and night grizzler atm.

[Lavin]

Grr, i just lost the whole post..

Hi Ladies :)

Amy - Im glad Abbie is doing well, fx that you dont have to have another d&c, pls let us know how your app goes today :hugs:

Mia - I hope things do a 180 for you soon and you start to get more sleep during the night

Alison - How is your back going today? I hope you had fun shopping yesterday. Thats great that both your girls are such good sleepers, last night was our best night so far with Mia, she was asleep at 10 and didnt wake again til 4, heres hoping it stays like that for at least another few nights (prob wishful thinking huh) but even one night of a 6 hour period makes us feel so much better!

Smiley - wow 310g ina week, thats awesome

Judy - How did your night go with Deon? Is he pooing normal b/f poos yet?

Hey can someone tell me how to change the words under your avator? Thanks heaps,

Hope everyone has a good day! :hugs:

[missmilliesmum]

Morning Girls :wave:
How did we all go last night? Hope all those restless bubba's settled for their Mummy's.

We had another good night! Think my little girl is getting the hang of this sleep thing! Amelia had a big feed at 8.30pm then needed a top-up at 10pm (Short feed on 1 side only) Then she slept through till 4am! 6 hours. I was very impressed!

Took her to Child and Youth Services and had her weighed yesterday. Was a bit peeved as they wouldn't let me weigh her in just her nappy (had to leave clothes on) so we had to guess on clothing deductions! So don't know exactly how accurate this is...but she has put on 320g in 2 weeks (After deductions). Not as much as some of your bubba's but above the norm they tell me! She is still only little! Not yet 7lb!!!

Amy - Sorry to hear that the worst of it is still not over for you hun. Here's some :hugs: as you need them! Let us know if you have to go and have another D & C. Hope this all clears up for you this time!

Donna (Smiley) - You thought I was brave for taking Amelia to a restaurant...Well I think you are very brave for taking Emily and your dog for a walk together! What kinda dog is she/he? I have a Border Collie who is outta control! She is strong and pulls the whole time! No way I could take her and Amelia for a walk together on my own! We all go together when Hubby is home, but NO Way otherwise! Well Done!

Lavin - To change the writing next to your avatar:
Go to - User Control Panel
Go to - Edit Forum Profile
Go to - Custom User Title
Then you can type whatever you want! Don't forget to Save it!
Hope Mia is behaving for you today!

Judy - Hope you got a good nights sleep! I had my :fingerscrossed: that Deon would sleep through for you!

Alison/Mia - Hope both of your backs aren't giving you too much grief. It must be so hard. Rest-Up when you can.

Georgia - Hope little Charlie settled for you last night and you got some well deserved rest!

Well ladies...I am meeting the work girls at the local pub this arvo for the usual Friday arvo drinks and I am going to have my first alcoholic beverage post-baby! I am a little excited! Haven't had a drink for almost a year!!! Have to be careful as I feel one glass of wine might hit me like a truck...will have to remember to sip slowly!

Hope you all have a lovely day! The sun is shining here - so off to hang out some washing and take Amelia for a walk!

[Teto]

Here are a few pix of Cameo!

one (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/hosp1.jpg)
two (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/hosp3.jpg)
three (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/hosp4.jpg)
four (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/R&C.jpg)

[missmilliesmum]

Cameo is beautiful Mia! I hope she gets your gorgeous hair! You look amazing after giving birth!

[GeorgiaAnne]

Georgia - Hope little Charlie settled for you last night and you got some well deserved rest!

Well ladies...I am meeting the work girls at the local pub this arvo for the usual Friday arvo drinks and I am going to have my first alcoholic beverage post-baby! I am a little excited! Haven't had a drink for almost a year!!! Have to be careful as I feel one glass of wine might hit me like a truck...will have to remember to sip slowly!


NOPE, we had a shocker, he seems to sleep the best during the day, so I catch up then.
Enjoy your boozing!:party::party: I had a nice glass last night and felt much better for it!


Here are a few pix of Cameo!

one (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/hosp1.jpg)
two (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/hosp3.jpg)
three (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/hosp4.jpg)
four (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/R&C.jpg)

She's gorgeous and so is Ripley!!:goodvibes: (now for them to sleep....)

[JJJ&D'sMum]

:smiliedance:Deon finally went longer than 4hrs overnight ! He had a feed at 10pm and slept all the way through until 3:45am so I got a decent sleep for a change. He went straight back to sleep until 7am and it was just bliss....I woke up feeling so much better this morning. Ohhhhh and guess what? Jasmine is finally having a daytime nap (after 4days refusal), Deon is also napping and Justyn is at a friends place. It's so quiet here that you could hear a pin drop and I'm loving it.

Alison (Mia too) I hope the support belt works. I've never seen one but they sound like wonderful little things. Deon is only slightly suntanned in the face and that shouldn't take long to dissipate. He's still in front of the window all day and this morning's poo seemed a bit more 'normal', not as bright and smelly anyway...all good signs.

Sarah that's unusual that you had to weigh Amelia in her clothes. We HAVE to strip them off completely here. Even still, it's great that she has stacked on the weight....all our babies seem very healthy, don't they! Enjoy your afternoon beverage and don't get too drunk. ;)

Mia Cameo and Ripley are just adorable!

Georgia sorry to hear that Charlie still isn't sleeping well at night. One day he'll realise the difference between night and day and turn that around for you.....here's hoping he realises soon. :yes:

[Teto]

Oooh Georgia, it looks like we have yet another thing in common with these wakeful nights and sleepy days bubs of ours. Though having said that Cami has been a bit of a devil this morning too, hmmm.

The MACH nurse is coming today to weigh and check her over. The phone operator asked the wierdest series of personal/security questions that ended with "is there any chance of aggression or violence towards the nurse?" and I was like wtf, there wasn't but that's starting to change lol.

[missmilliesmum]

Don't worry ladies - I only plan to have one drink - Otherwise I'd be passed out on the floor I think!
Also I don't know how it will affect Amelia yet - I have done some reading and the effects of a mother having a few drinks while BF appear to be minimal and in some studies unproven at all.

Judy - Glad Deon slept for 6 hours for you! :thumbsup: That's great! Hope it keeps up!

Georgia - Sorry you had a shocker last night with Charlie. Hopefully tonight will be better. At least you can catnap during the day :yes:

[haileye]

Hi ladies,

I haven't had a chance to read through all the posts as yet.

Can any one tell me how long the baby blues last for? it seems that most nights at around 9.30pm (when DP goes to bed) I start to cry uncontrollably..

I'm dealing with the day time fine but when it comes to the nights I feel like I'm on my own...
Dp is home from work by 5.30-6pm, he sits down for a while then will cook dinner have a shower and then come and have a cuddle or do the feed if bubby is due, then is off to bed at 9 - 9.15pm and I'm still sitting in the lounge trying to burp/ settle my crying baby.

Last night Malakai wouldn't settle he kept wanting to be fed almost every hour... he would burp and then he would scream and claw at me when I tried to settle him..
by about 11.30pm I couldn't stand it anymore and called my mum, She came and picked him up and took him to her place for the night..
and they had no problems with him, he slept right through from the time they got home till 5am this morning.

I feel like I have no idea what I am doing most of the time... I helped bring up my niece and I swear it was never this hard.
I've read so many books on what to do and what not to do, and nothing seems to have sunk in.

I can't stand to hear him cry, he never seems to cry when he has settled on my chest, but as soon as I put him down in his bed he starts to cry again... for everyone else he is perfect but for me he seems to act up...

I'm sorry to put a downer into the posts.. I know that everyone is probably posting happy posts... but I can honestly say that this new baby thing is not as easy as everyone makes out.:crying:

[GeorgiaAnne]

:hugs::hugs::hugs: Hailey, your post brought a tear to my eye. What you're feeling is very normal ad yes, it is damn hard at times, especially when you feel lonely. I had the same feelings as you with my dd and my dh used to work 7am - midnight so I was totally alone. The only thing that kept me sane (ish) was the thought that if I really lost it, someone could come ie: mum or dh or my brother etc. Remember you're not alone :hugs: and ask for help when you need either with settling or if you feel that baby blues has gone on too long. I think I did have Pnd but I was prob. too proud embarassed to admit it which is silly.
Babies know their mums which is why he does't want you to put him down, it is nice for him on your chest and he'd rather stay there. Smart boy! but hard for you.
Try and stay calm and consistent at nightime and keep in the back of your mind that help is there if you need it. Remember that problems always seem bigger at night on your own.
I PROMISE you it gets easier otherwise there is no way I would've had another and don't feel bad that you are not all lovey-dovey and loving every second. Some people feel like that with the first (lucky them) but it is just as normal to go through what you are.

[cassvanm]

:wave: Hi girls
Just a quick post - I keep forgetting this thread is here!
:hugs: for Hailey. Yes honey, it is very hard being a mummy, especially for that first time! Keep going with your instincts, and make contact with your maternal health nurse to see if there is a baby unit in your area where you can visit for some settling tips. They can do absolute wonders for you.
Me: Piper slept last night! After 3 nights of her being up from 10pm to 4-5am straight, she settled and only woke up for 3-4 hourly feeds. :smiliedance:yay! I was still tired, but not earth-shatteringly exhausted!
The boobs are getting better, but I cannot believe the amount of washing we're doing. About 2-3 maxi loads a day! Not to mention the folding and putting away (yet to do the putting away!)
Will talk soon lovely ladies, I hope you are all well
Cass

[haileye]

Thanks Georgia and Cass...

I know it sounds horrible but I felt like such a failure when I called mum to come and get him.
Tristan didn't want me to call her, but neither of us could settle him and Tristan had to get some sleep before getting up again at 4.30 to go to work... (He's also recovering from having his appendix removed last Thursday...):(

Mum and Dad are having Malakai again tonight and have given me and Tristan orders to stay home and have some alone time and get some sleep.
They have also offered to take him at least one or two nights a week just to help out so that we can get a break.

Again Thank you ladies for your support, I will definately be keeping an eye on the blues to make sure it doesn't progress into PND

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Mia those questions are asked by all the MCHN's for OH&S reasons. They sound like stupid questions but I guess the MCHN's need to have a safe working environment even if it is our homes.

Sarah from what I've been told, approximately 1/3 of what we digest is passed on to bub via BM. So if you only have one drink and then have plenty of water it should be well and truly diluted before Amelia has her next feed.

Hailey huge :hugs:sweetie. I agree with what the Georgia and Cass have said so I have nothing to add. We all go through the feeling lonely stage and I think that's when we're the most vulnerable (when we are on our own). Emotions are more readily released when no one else is around and that can be a good thing as long as it's all kept in check (no sign of PND). It's great that your parents are able to help you out by taking Malakai.....enjoy the time and try to relax as much as possible.

Cass :smiliedance: Piper slept! Here's hoping she continues to do it night after night.

Time to go sort out dinner here. We have and extra kid for the night so it's enchilada's and chips.....quick and easy. :D

[kymmy]

:hugs:

Moving house tomorrow and will be offline for 2-3 weeks.

[cassvanm]

Kymmy, good luck with your move chick! We will be waiting to hear back from you soon.

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

I know it sounds horrible but I felt like such a failure when I called mum to come and get him.
Tristan didn't want me to call her, but neither of us could settle him and Tristan had to get some sleep before getting up again at 4.30 to go to work... (He's also recovering from having his appendix removed last Thursday...):(

Mum and Dad are having Malakai again tonight and have given me and Tristan orders to stay home and have some alone time and get some sleep.
They have also offered to take him at least one or two nights a week just to help out so that we can get a break.


Sweetie your not a failure!, I dont know how many times I called mum or my sister when I had Sierra. Its good that you have some support, never be afraid to use it!, especially if your feeling like your not coping.:hugs:
This time Im coping a little better, but trust me, I wont be hesitating to call someone if I need it!.

Mia- I have that seperation too... so have to do a lot of exercised to try and pull everything back together, then after 6 weeks im allowed to start classes that the physio put on, I think they are yoga, or pilates... something like that, and then 3 months Im allowed to go back to the gym... slow going!.

Cass- Yay for getting more sleep!!, Im still tired all the time even with the sleep im getting!, Im not sure how you ladies do it when your not getting much sleep and then have 2 or 3 other kids aswell!

Judy- Thats great about having some peace and quiet!!. I wish Sierra would have her midday nap but shes still refusing it. DH has been rocking her to sleep but I wont be able to do that once he goes back to work, so will be trying the controlled crying again and trying to get her back into a routine... not looking forward to that!!.
Deon sounds like he is doing great!!. Lessening jaundice and good nights sleeping, thats what I like to hear!

Sarah- Enjoy that drink!. I had a wine the other day at my Neice's party and had to stop at one even though Im FF!, It hit me straight away lol!. But then I have almost been pregnant for the last 2 years (6 months inbetween) so Im surprised I wasn't knocked over by a whiff of it!

Thanks to everyone who asked about my back... In a bit of pain today, but still went to mums and bubs group, with DH in tow to chase after Sierra lol.
Shopping was good the other night, DH got some much needed items, like new shoes for work and new underwear, and I got a new book, although I dont get much time to read I do like to read a little bit before bed.

Kymmy- Hope the move goes well!, Take care and cant wait to hear how things are going in a couple of weeks when you have the internet back up and running and you have settled in!.

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Kymmy good luck with the move. Have fun settling into your new home.

Alison good luck with the CC technique when DH goes back to work. I have tried that with Jasmine but it just never seems to work during the day anymore. Your DH is a sweetie going to Mums & Bubs group with you....I don't think I'd ever be able to convince Craig to come with me. :no:

Having an extra kid for the night has proven to be interesting already. She's a tomboy with a set of lungs on her that woud rival a town crier so it's been rather noisy so far. At least she settled down when the 2 little ones went to bed. Tomorrow is meant to be a lovely day here so I think I'm might kick the kids off to the park to get some quiet time.

[hayleysmummy]

Evening mummies,

I miss posting all day every day but hopefully when things settle down a little I'll be able to catch up more often

My sister was here today so she cuddled Izzy most of the day and pushed the pram around the shopping centre for me, :laughing: it must have looked quite funny as she's also 36weeks pregnant. I've just got DS off to sleep hes started fussing at night now, It was pretty bad last night so I had him in bed with DD and I. I cant believe my baby is 2 on the 7th of next month they grow up so quickly :(

Hailey- hun I have nothing else to offer you but some :hugs: the other ladies have given great advice, I also think its great your mum has offered to have DS so you and DH can get some rest

oh Judy as if you need another set of lungs at your house LOL I hope things are a bit more settled now

Kymmy- Good luck with the move hope to hear from you in the next couple of weeks

Cass I'm glad your getting some sleep I hope it stays that way, I can sympathise with you on the washing its terrible Izzy goes through at least 4 outfits a day usually covered in wee because I forget to point his willy down in his nappy :laughing: not to mention the bunny rugs etc etc covered in spew oh the joys of having a newborn hey haha

Gotta go baby screaming AGAIN grrrr hopefully I'll be back soon tata

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Jordan I hope you enjoyed your outing today. That would have been nice walking around and not having to push a pram. Sorry to hear Izzy had a bad night...hopefully there won't be too many of those for you.
I hear you on the wet outfits.....I did that sooo many times with DS1 and had to remind myself this time round or I'd be in the same position as you. Sorry but I had a giggle at you for a minute there cos it brought back memories. :p

The other set of lungs here are doing rather well....it's amazing how quiet a kid can be when they're glued to the PS2. :yes:

[GeorgiaAnne]

Thanks Georgia and Cass...

I know it sounds horrible but I felt like such a failure when I called mum to come and get him.
Tristan didn't want me to call her, but neither of us could settle him and Tristan had to get some sleep before getting up again at 4.30 to go to work... (He's also recovering from having his appendix removed last Thursday...):(

Mum and Dad are having Malakai again tonight and have given me and Tristan orders to stay home and have some alone time and get some sleep.
They have also offered to take him at least one or two nights a week just to help out so that we can get a break.


You are not a failure at all, I think it's great you're getting help and big :yelclap: to your parents for being there when you need them, you're very lucky.
Alison - Hope your back keeps getting better and you have a nice relaxing weekend.
Cass - Glad that Piper slept a bit better last night and I hear ya on the washing, it is never ending.

My house was bl00dy mayhem tonight and sometimes I think Sophia cries more than Charlie she is such a drama queen if everything isn't "just so". You know how it is sometimes - dinner burning, children screaming, phones ringing, tv blaring AHHHHHHH :hair: BUT I wouldn't change it for the world (says she when they're all asleep!)

I took Charlie for a quick weigh in today and he has put on 500g :eek::eek: Might be time to drag out those feeds from 3 to 4 hours!

[Teto]

Well done on the weight gain Georgia! (his, not yours)
We didn't get Cameo weighed yesterday because she was asleep when the MACH nurse came, so we'll take her in next week to see.

Well hey hey hey, we had a good night last night, stuck to our settling techniques instead of fretting and feeding and they worked! She fed at about 8.30pm, 12.30am and 5am and went back to bed each time without too much trouble. FX she is over her overtiredness and we can keep this up fairly regularly.

Must bath her today, she never seems to be awake when DS is in the bath, which is when we thought we'd do it...

[GeorgiaAnne]

Yay for your good night Mia ours was OK but he is very stuck on the 3 hourly feeds and cuddles with me from 5am onwards. How do they know so early???:confused:

[cassvanm]

Well hey hey hey, we had a good night last night, stuck to our settling techniques instead of fretting and feeding and they worked! She fed at about 8.30pm, 12.30am and 5am and went back to bed each time without too much trouble. FX she is over her overtiredness and we can keep this up fairly regularly.


Mia, good luck with the settling success! I had a few nasty nights with Piper - with DH staying up until 5am one night - it was ridiculous. With a change in my diet, a change in swaddling and a change in day routines, she seems to have settled - well for the last 2 nights anyway! What we now do is this:

9am feed - keep her awake! Keep her in a lit room and give tummy time, play time, bare bum time etc.

1230pm feed - put to bed in cot, tightly swaddled with darkened room for a really good, decent sleep.

400pm feed - keep her up as best as I can throughout the arvo until her next feed (very difficult to do).

7.30pm feed - try to give a bath if needed, or do top & tail after feed. Then let her settle for the night.

Did this the last two days, and last night she fed at 9pm (times tend to shift depending on her hunger), then she was up at 2am for a feed, then again at 5am for a feed, and it's 9.45am and she's still down. (but my boobies hurt!)


My house was bl00dy mayhem tonight and sometimes I think Sophia cries more than Charlie she is such a drama queen if everything isn't "just so". You know how it is sometimes - dinner burning, children screaming, phones ringing, tv blaring AHHHHHHH BUT I wouldn't change it for the world (says she when they're all asleep!)

I took Charlie for a quick weigh in today and he has put on 500g Might be time to drag out those feeds from 3 to 4 hours!

I know what you mean about mayhem. I am just so thankful for Mick - he has been an absolute angel ( I think I"ll keep him!). My girls have settled really well, so I think I'm also lucky in that respect.

Piper had her first weigh in on Thursday and she'd gained 90gm in 3 days - little porker! We so need a pig icon here!

I had my first cry since I had Pip last night. I wanted to help Mick out coz he'd been so good, so I said I'd cook dinner (he's usually the chef here). So I put in some chicken wings in the oven and prepared the vegies etc only to notice 30min into the 40min cooking time, that I although I'd turned on the oven, I'd accidently flicked the 'finsh' switch, which turns off the element :crying: I was so cranky with myslef, coz by the time we worked it out, it was past dinner time, it was getting late, so we had to defrost snags, and Piper needed a feed. Therefore, Mick ended up cooking dinner anyway! Oh well, at least he knows that I was trying!

Going to DH's bro's house today for grand final - only good thing about that is it means the end of footy season :laughing:. Anyway, the baby will be pawed over and dribbled/snotted on by germy kids :hair:. Plus all the adults are just as bad, so wish me luck and strength ladies!

Talk later today probably.
Cass

[DeannaMay]

Hi Ladies :wave:

I just found this thread - it was great to have a quick read and catch up on how everyone is going with their bubbas.

I can't believe that Max is already 2 and a half weeks old! He is adorable (though trying at times!). We got him weighed yesterday and he has put on over 400gms in one week! I had to laugh at the snorty piggy comments. That's definitely Max too! I'm listening to him snort through the baby monitor right now (or it could be coming from the other end!).

We have brought dummies but haven't used them yet - I reckon we might start soon though! I swear he would feed non stop if I let him. You should see his chubba cheeks :laughing: I'll try to figure out how to put up photos shortly.

I have been very lucky that DP has 5 weeks off work. I don't know how I would've gone without him. I tend to nap between 9pm and 4am and just wake up for feeds and then DP goes to bed and sleeps til about 11am/midday. I think I would like to change the 'split shift' arrangement soon though - have to start getting in a bit of a routine for when DP goes back to work.

Oh -and a question for the c-section ladies... Does anyone's actual scar hurt at all (2+ weeks past)? I meant to ask the health nurse yesterday but forgot.

Hope everyone has a lovely day today. We're off to a Grand final bbq today. It'll be good to get out and have a glass of wine :)

Sorry for the :ecomcity: - it has been a while since i posted!

take care everyone!

[DeannaMay]

I just put 2 photos in the album. I hope it worked...

My little man has just started squeaking again... please sleep bubby!!!!

[Pina Colada]

:wave: Hi ladies

I've been lurking the last couple of days but I'm staying at my mum and dad's for the weekend, so it makes it a bit harder to post etc.

Mia - Yay for the good night! What settling techniques do you use? I'm a shocker, whenever Addison wakes up I feed her (easy way out :laughing:) but am interested in other settling techniques so I don't get her in a bad habit IYKWIM

I know what you mean about the bath! Addison always seems to be asleep when it is a good time to give her a bath, and she misses out every now and again. I tried for the 1st time last night to bath her with the other kids, but it was just too hard.

Georgia - My little one is a 3 hourly feeder as well :rolleyes: Could be worse I guess - could be 2 hourly :D Luckily she feeds quickly, and I just pop her back in bed and she goes to sleep herself.

Cass - well done on the routine! We don't have a routine as yet, I'm hoping one will develop over the next couple of weeks, as she approaches 6 weeks. Good luck at your BIL today - outings like that just seem like hard work at the moment don't they lol.

Deanna - it's great that you DH has 5 weeks off! My c-section scar twinges every now and then (after 4 weeks) but after 2 weeks I would say some pain and discomfort is normal. It takes 6 weeks to heal fully I think.

Well, all the night wakings are starting to take its toll. Individually all the kids are quite good, but add it all up and I'm up 5-6 times a night :rolleyes:

Better go - kids have busted me and I don't want them to wake Addy.

[hayleysmummy]

Morning girls

I cant believe how many new bubs have now arrived its crazy

I have just got DS down for his first nap since 6:30am I am stuffed and still have to occupy DD til she has a sleep.

Sissy- I'd also like to get Izzy into a routine he nodded off a few times this morning and as soon as I put him in the coty he screamed til I poicked him up and has been feeding ever half an hour :( so I know what your going through ) but you also have 2 other munchkins to occupy I dont know how you do it :hugs:

Deanna- they grow too quick dont they Max is beautiful :D

Cass- your routine looks really good I just dont know where to start and end up feeding Izzy whenever he cries, I'm glad Mick has been a great support for you and I'm sure he wouldnt have minded that he ended up cooking dinner theres always next time take it easy hun :hugs:

Well I think I deserve a cuppa then to hang out yet another load of washing *sigh*

[Teto]

Re settling techniques, everyone's different. But for us, if you're feeding them every hour, there's something going on with mixed messages between you and bub. It's hard because it's one of the things you do when bub won't settle - give them a top up. But if you know they've had a really good feed recently, then their cues are most likely to be tired signs not hungry signs, even if they are trying to suck.

So um, make sure that the current feed/cuddle/sleep cycle is a really relaxing and non stimulating one, then put them to bed within an hour of them getting up. If they grizzle, don't get them up again, just pat, soothe, comfort etc and keep leaving the room. Hopefully a few goes at that and they will settle themselves. Use a dummy if you have to/if it helps.

[Lavin]

Hi Ladies :wave:

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. :)

Mia - Your pics of Cameo are absolutely gorgeous

Sarah - Thanks for that, how did your drinks go the other night?

Deanna - I had a c/s on the 11th and my scar still gets a little uncomfy at times but its usually when ive been picking up Mia or doing more than what im meant to. :iagree: with Donna about taking 6 weeks, thats how long i was told it could take to be fully better. Hope you feel better soon

Well today was the first day that Mia was really unsettled, it didnt seem to matter what we did, she just didnt want a bar of it, but she has her head down now and has been asleep for almost an hour so fx she doesnt wake for a little bit longer, but during the nights recently she has been really good and the last two nights she went for 6 hours straight, so shouldnt complain bout today really :)

Hope everyone has a good night:hugs:

[MooandMoo2]

Hi everyone, i hope you and your gorgeous bubbas are all doing well. I haven't had a chance to have a good read of this thread yet but i did skim over it. Hunters doing well, i havent had him weighed yet but i can feel and see he is definately gaining weight, im sure being on the bottle now has something to do with it and finally my b00bs are no longer sore!

Cass your routine sounds great! im struggling getting Hunter into one, im such a routine person with every single thing in my life and yet i cant seem to get my kids into one no matter how hard i try, stuborn things they are. the only thing that has been routine is that Hunter screams blood curdling from 3pm till sometimes 9pm other than that hes not too bad, he is showing alot of signs that his brother did at this age too regarding reflux so im crossing my fingers that doesn't happen.

Cass dont feel so bad about the chicken wings i did something similar, our oven is supose to be self cleaning (yeah right) i put a whole chook in the oven turned it on and a while later i realised i couldn't smell it cooking and id turned it onto clean in stead of fan forced.... it was soggy haha and definately not to be eatten hehe.

Hows everyone else going? your bubbas are all so gorgeous arent we so lucky?

[MooandMoo2]

im thinking ill have to get Hunter checked out, hes got a rash on his face, just on his face, that looks kinda like sweat pimples? not like a normal pimple but little lumps the poor darling, ive googled it as you do, and it looks like baby acne? ive never heard of this, he doesn't have a fever or any other symptoms.... i feel so bad

[cassvanm]

Flick, are they milk pimples? Piper got a rash on day 3, which the middies said was normal. Plus my other kids got the milk pimples around week 2 (I think)? Get them checked out if your worried though. Fingers crossed for you!

[MooandMoo2]

Thanks Cass, ive got a doc comming out today to check them, ive ummm and arrghed about going to the hopsital this weekend to get them checked but seeing as he doesn't have any other symptoms i really didn't want to drag him there and possibly bring him home with something nastier than a rash. it might be milk pimples its only on his forhead cheeks and nose.

I read in our other post alot of your bubbas aren't sleeping well at night, Hunter isn't either and Cooper still doesnt at 18 months :(

[JJJ&D'sMum]

Hi ladies!!!

Stupid me...I swear I'm a glutton for punishment. I have another kid for the night tonight, tomorrow night I'll have a break but then my sister and nephew will be here for the night. I really need to learn how to say NO to DS2's sleepovers but I can't seem to manage to learn how to not be such a softie.

Life really doesn't want to slow down around here atm. The girls from DD's Mums & Bubs group have decided that they are desperate to meet Deon as well as catch up with me (haven't seen them since before Deon was born) so it's going to be held at my place tomorrow. They're bringing cake etc and they don't care what condition my house is in so I'm not going to do much to change that. Gotta love it when other mums know exactly what you're going through. :p

I'm so sorry about the lack of personals but I can't be stuffed reading too much this late at night. I'm thinking of all you new mummy's and hoping that you're all enjoying your bubs and are all rested and well.

Ohhhhh before I forget......my little man went for 6hrs in between feeds last night. I couldn't believe it when I woke up to him and realised the time! Something is finally going my way. :smiliedance:

[loz10]

morning, just went to post, oliver is awake now and back on the one hand..... been up since 4am :no:, the boys will be up any minute so no sleep in here.

willl catch up later :wave:

[KatieLou]

hey, just found this thread - when did we move?!? lol - I am so behind!

I hope everyone is well. Not much to say here, but Cassidy is finally sleeping (in her swing) so I am going to race off and dress before she wakes as I don't think I have long.

:D to all.

[GeorgiaAnne]

:hugs: loz, that's a long day for you hun. Is there AO who can watch the big boys so you and Ollie can lay down for a nap
kAT - :wave: YAY for the swing working - nothing wrong with PJ'S for daytime wear up to 6 weeks PP :D That's my rule.
Judy - Hope you have fun with your mums today and :yelclap: to Deon for 6 hours. Can you send him over here to have a word with Charlie please?!

We had an OK night, he feeds frequently but goes straight back to sleep so I guess that's something :rolleyes: my eyes feel like sandpaper though!
We had a lovely weekend and DH bought a new BBQ so we got that cranking which was lovely as y'day was so warm it felt lovely and summery. I'm working from home today so i'd better go :wave:

[missmilliesmum]

Hi Girls :wave:,

Kat - Great to see you back! Glad you found our new thread. Hope Cassidy behaves for you today and stays asleep in her swing for a little while!

Georgia - Sorry to hear Charlie isn't yet sleeping for long overnight! I'm sure he will get the hang of it sooner or later! You are Super Mum - working already! Do you own your own business? Hope you have a nice day working from home.

Judy - Yay to Deon sleeping through for 6 hours for his Mummy! Hope you have a nice day with your Mum's and Bub's group. I'm sure you will enjoy the catch-up!

Deanna - Max is just gorgeous! How are you guys going?

Loz - Hope Oliver gets the hang of the sleep thing soon too! You must be exhausted you poor luv! Can you send James and Nicholas outside to run around the property and tire them out LOL??? Then you could have an arvo nap!

Flick - Hope little Hunter is ok and the rash was just milk rash. Let us know how you are going.

Lavin - Hope you were able to settle Mia in the end. Sounds like she has the hang of night sleeping! Good for you!

Cass - How is Pip today? Is she attatching better? It is awful when you have problems. My first week home from hospy was full of frustration and tears due to attatchment problems - but we seem to have the hang of it now - but still have our bad days!

Me - We had a very nice weekend. Went for a picnic on Saturday as it was 30 degrees here! It was lovely spending time as a family - just the three of us!
Amelia has been so good! She really is in a bit of a routine which enables me to stay sane (Mostly!)
She is so interactive now! She loves play time and gives her Mummy lots of smiles and yesterday she had her first little chuckle! Nanna was here (My Mum) and she was very excited/proud of her granddaughter!

Amelia had her first night in the nursery (Or her Big Girl Room as we are calling it LOL!) last night! We previously had her in the bassinet in our room. We popped her in the nursery in the bassinett with the monitor on and she did great! Slept for 6 hours and then fed and then slept for another 4 hours before we got up! I feel great today and I'm sure she does too!

Having a cuppa this arvo with my BF who has a newbie bubba too! The poor luv has had salmonella and been sick as a dog! Looking forward to catching up and helping her to feel better!

:hugs: to all Mummy's and Bubby's who need them!

[GeorgiaAnne]

hi Sarah
How lovely to be getting smiles ad chuckles, i'm looking forward to that :yes: Your poor friend with salmonella, that must've been awful with a newborn. I'm OK about Charlie's sleep - Sophia was the same til about 6 weeks then went 12 hours with a dreamfeed from about 12 weeks so hopefully he'll be similar :thumbsup: and yup, self employed but i'm still in bed with my baby boy and working here so it's pretty nice

[Pina Colada]

:wave: all

I just got home from Mum and Dad's. We have been staying there since Thursday, and I always find it harder getting online when I am there, so I have been a bit quiet since Thursday!

I'll have a catch up read soon, but just wanted to pop in and say hello.

I've just finished moving Addison out of our room into her nursery. I feel a bit mean (Yasmine was in our room until 9 months, and Liam until 4 months) but every time one of the other kids wake up or come in our room (which is at least 2 or 3 times a night) she stirs, and usually wakes up. And she has been waking at 6am, which is when the other kids wake up, and I think she could probably sleep a bit longer.

Having said that, she is excellent at night. Last night went down at 8pm, and fed at 12midnight and 4am, which is fine by me! I haven't slept more than 4 hours straight for over 3 years, so it doesn't faze me anymore.

And she feeds and goes straight back to sleep which is wonderful.

Anyway, lots of unpacking and washing to do, so just wanted to say hello, and I'll be back later.

[hayleysmummy]

I hope everyone is well. Not much to say here, but Cassidy is finally sleeping (in her swing) so I am going to race off and dress before she wakes as I don't think I have long.

Kat I'm with you on that one Izzy screams everytime I put him in the cot he has now been sleeping the last 3hrs in his rocker but its definately not a habit I want to get into its the only way I can get some peace and save my sanity for a while :(

Georgia- I wish I could still be in bed with bubba you lucky thing, but its highly impossible with a roaring 2 yr old I think I'm going to ask kindy for 1 extra day a week as she's only currently going for 1

Well I just popped on to say hello but DD has started grrr then I have to go and pick up 320 photos I got printed last week from last xmas til now (shocking isnt it) and managed to leave my memory card from the camera with all my birth photos in the machine thank-god someone handed it in for me those pics could never be replaced

Hope you are all enjoying your monday :hugs:

[haileye]

Hi ladies...

Well I'm glad to say that we are coping a little bit better..
My parents had Malakai for two nights (Thursday & Friday) and mum managed to set him into a routine...
so now at night time he feeds at about 8.30/9pm then down again for about 3 hours so he wakes about 11.30/12 then down again till 3ish then down again till 6am- ish he stays awake for about an hour then is down again till about 10.30/11am
The nights have become easier, but now that the days are becoming hot and sticky he stays awake from his late morning feed and doesn't go down untill about 1.30pm

Yay!!!

[StarMummy]

Hi girls,

Sorry i have been MIA for a while ok aybe aagggeesss but we have been having major issues with Hunter again....when the clinic nurse came he had only gained 115g in 11 days but still ok she thinks but i have to take him back to the clinic this week to make sure Hunter is gaining weight still....i am a little worried but he seems to be following in his sisters footsteps. Even though he had put on so little weight (still not back t birth weight) he had grown a whopping 4cm!!!
I have also had him at the paed already a diagnosis confirmed what i thought....Hunter has severe colic and a touch of silent reflux hence his screaming issues. I was pretty upset about it all as Tarleha had shocking reflux and was told the chance of it happening again were practically zilch- just my luck.

We have also been having ajor attatchment issues to where he has cracked my nipples something chronic he was having me in tears when it was feed time, we are working on it though and i think we are making progress but still have occassional problems and that gets me down too.

Anyway hunter has just woken and wants a feed so will try to get back on here again soon...

Sorry i didnt do personals but i have read everything. just dont have time atm with Hunter demanding a feed.

[KatieLou]

We have also been having ajor attatchment issues to where he has cracked my nipples something chronic he was having me in tears when it was feed time, we are working on it though and i think we are making progress but still have occassional problems and that gets me down too.



Hopefully you get it all sorted soon. I am having the same problem - one nipple has the equivalent of the grand canyon in it and the other is healing but still hurts lots. It's rather depressing at times isn't it? I called the hospital today to see if they offered any support, but they haven't called me back yet. Just when I think we are getting somewhere we have a bad feed and we're back to square one. Is there a LC or someone there that you can go see for help with attachment?
:hugs: for all of the other dramas that Hunter has been causing you - hopefully that's the end of it and he puts on weight and keeps his food down.

Hailey - lucky you to have Malakai in a routine! I've got no clues what's going on here - it's all a surprise!

Jordan - is it such a bad thing to let them sleep in their bouncers/swings? I was toying with having a nap while she was sleeping in her swing this morning, but then couldn't decide if I should leave her in the swing while I slept. I couldn't see why not, but I just didn't think I should for some reason. :confused:

Donna - welcome home! Don't feel bad for moving Addison into her own room - Cassidy has been on her own since the start - she's so noisy we wouldn't be able to cope if not!

Hi Georgia :wave:- You truly are super woman by working already with 2 kids. Be careful not to burn the candle at both ends though :hugs: I have no idea how you do it - I think just getting out of the house is an achievement!

Sarah - what a lovely weekend you had! How is Tully coping with the new competition?

Judy - my gosh woman are you crazy?!? You already have enough going on without other peoples kids or entertaining mums & bubs group! :DGood luck to you though, you're a stronger woman than I. :p

Wow, what an essay - gee it feels good to be back posting though.

[Pina Colada]

Jordan - I'm the same, I don't like my bubs sleeping in rockers or swings. I always move them into bed if they fall asleep. I figure it is just one more thing that I have to wean them off if they get used to it IYKWIM

Hailey - Yay on the start of a routine, you are doing so well. I'm so glad your mum has been such a great support for you, and that you are feeling more in control now.

Kat - :hugs: I had such attachment issues with DD1, I ended up getting a lactation consultant to the house after 2 weeks, and she sorted me out. It still took me 6 weeks to feed without any pain. And the scarring on my nipples were a pain when breastfeeding the other two, as it would flare up again, but it passed much quicker, after a week or so.

Loz - :hugs: hon, I sympathise with you. I am finding 3 exhausting and Addison seems to have figured day from night out, so you must be struggling sweets. I hope you and Oliver find a routine soon.

Star - I'm so sorry to hear Hunter is having a few problems. Big hugs to you and your boy, and I hope you find some peace and comfort soon. Thinking of you.

Well, Addison has been playing up with her day sleeps the last couple of days, I'll get her to sleep and then 30-40minutes later (if that) she is awake again.

So I am starting to try and settle her in her bassinette, rather than putting her to sleep and picking her up if she is unsettled. I went in and settled her by patting and rubbing her tummy, and rewrapping her if necessary, twice in the last 40 minutes or so, and I haven't heard from her for about 15 minutes so hopefully she has put herself to sleep. Liam used to self-settle and it was a god send, so I am hoping to have Addison into a routine soon.

DH is cooking dinner tonight, and I was emptying the dishwasher and got told to go and sit down and relax so I'm going to watch home and away now :D

[loz10]

Kristee Sorry to hear Hunter is still not gaining sufficient weight, ensure you keep up with the your clinic nurse so they can monitor him. Have your nipples started getting better yet? Being week 3 they should be improving as this will help alot with you relaxing more etc with the feeds. Keep us posted and GL :hugs:.

Flick Oliver too has face pimples now, it is simply a milk rash and makes them look pimply. If I recall it can last weeks. They usually get it around the time everyone wants to visit them and then they look all rashy :rolleyes:.

Haileye Glad to hear you now have a routine with Malakai, we still have none here but hopefully will soon.

I have allowed bad sleeping habits to start purely because I just want to/need to sleep at night. DH has been sleeping next door and Oliver has now worked out how to spend as much time as poss in my bed.

I never did this with the boys, always fed in a feeding chair and not in my bed. I just don't want to get out my bed. I put a big bottle of water, nappies, wipes etc next to me and do everything between my legs, sit-up and feed and basically (when poss) put him back in his bassinet or next to me if there are problems. This will need to stop soon and I will have to get my backside up and feed in the loungeroom so DH can come back in.

Although, Oliver is much cuter to sleep with :sunshine:.

[GeorgiaAnne]

Although, Oliver is much cuter to sleep with :sunshine:.

I'm with ya hun, 'cept i've got 2 snorting blokes in bed with me! I've also ever had babies in bed with me, I just settle him here then pop him in. It seems to be only the 6-11pm witching hours and then he's cool by himself. I figure I fed Sophia to sleep for a year so what's another baby with a bad habit :laughing:

I really didn't get much work done, it's amazing how busy these little people keep us!
Kat - Sorry about your boobs luv, do they hurt the whole feed or just for the first 30 secs or so? I hope the hosp. get back to you with some help. We're still struggling a bit too but I figure it's gradually improving so i'm just gritting my teeth and going on. Well done on your monster post though, you did well to find the time :yelclap:
Donna - Yay for your dh cooking, I hope you've had a nice night.
Jordan - I'm so glad you got your photo thing back, that would've been terrible to lose, those things become so precious when you have kids. BTW, I think you're doing amazing with 2 LO's, good on you :)
Hailey - Great to hear things are a bit better for you.

[StarMummy]

Hi all,

I am back whilst Hunter is screaming in daddy's arms and there is not a thing i can do about it :crying:

KATIELOU my nipples still hurt lots too although once the feed is under way its not too bad. I have already been to see the LC at the hospital but fat lot of use that was i saw her for like 15mins and that was it.
I hope you have better luck with a LC than i did.

DONNA (SISSY) thanks for your kind words. I really do need to find some comfort soon and i think i have forgotten what peace is. People are worried i am spiralling down.

LOZ my nipples are slowly getting there but they didnt actually crack till just about week 2 :rolleyes: once the feed is underway it still hurts but not as much plus this kid has suction like a vaccuum.

SORRY to others i have forgot i have to go feed again :yes::rolleyes:

[MooandMoo2]

Starmummy my Hunter is screaming in his daddys arms at the moment too and it looks like just like his big brother Cooper that hes refluxy and colicy as well, hes screamed pretty much the whole day its heart breaking

Thanks loz yeah the doc said the pimples are nothing to worry about and will go shortly thank goodness

big hugs to everyone i better go have a turn at rocking and boucing... brings back so many memories of with Cooper, his reflux was so bad he would scream 17 hours straight and pass out

[Lavin]

Morning Ladies :wave:

Sarah - That is so good that Amelia is smiling and chuckling, i cant wait for that day to come! sounds like you have a pretty good night routine going there. How are you going today?

Flick - You poor thing :hugs:, is there anything the doctors can do to help with the reflux/colic?

Hailey - Good to see you are feeling better hun :)

Mia has been doing really well, she only wakes 1-2 times a night after the 10pm feed which is fantastic, we took her for her weigh in yesterday and she put on 310g in a week :smiliedance:

Also went out with one of my girlfriends while hubby was at home with Mia, had two beers and cant believe how much it hits you after not drinking for sooo long.:dizzy:

How is everyones weeks going?

Have a good day

[Pina Colada]

Morning

Georgia - I fed DD1 and DS to sleep for ages too. DD1 until 12 months :rolleyes: DS self settled for ages until he could roll and sit up, and then I ended up feeding him to sleep too.

I am really going to try and have Addison self settle in bed, as it is a bit too hard to feed her to sleep at the moment, especially as I get her to sleep and as soon as I put her down she wakes up :rolleyes: I can do this 5 or 6 times a sleep and then sometimes she only sleeps for 40 mins.

So I am wrapping her and cuddling her, and then putting her down and leaving the room. If she cries I come back and pat her, rub her tummy until her eyes start to droop, and then leave again. It will be time consuming at first, but I'm hoping she will get the hang of it. It would just make my life so much easier with the older kids.

On the plus side, she is sleeping really well at night, feeding every 4 hours, which means I only have to get up twice and she goes straight back down, which is great.

Big :hugs: to Flick and Star - I really hope that your bubs settle for you both soon. It is such a tough time for you, and I know it seems like it will never end, but I promise it will get better (eventually :rolleyes:). Hang in there ladies :hugs:

[Pina Colada]

:wave: Lavin

Sounds like you and Mia are doing really well :thumbsup: Yay for the beers with your friend! You have done well to get out of the house by yourself, I won't manage that for a long while yet :rolleyes:

I am planning on going to the beauty salon every couple of weeks for a bit of a pamper session. With Addison in tow of course :p

[missmilliesmum]

Hi Girls :wave:,

We had a pretty good night last night. Millie slept for 4 hours between feeds (Miss my 6 hour sleep though!) She is very alert today and smiling and cooing away on her play mat next to me - it is so cute!

For those having BF issues - I can sympathise. Amelia is 6 weeks old this week :eek: and we are still having issues. She has had attatchment problems all along. It doesn't 'hurt' to BF per say, but it is not always comfortable and even if I get her on and it feels 'right' she will just wriggle herself into a position that suits her better and pulls/hurst me!
I decided overnight that I too will ring the hospy today and see what BF support they offer and maybe see their lactation consultant. I figure I may as well use the help if it is available. I bet they will tell me I'm doing it all wrong!!!

Kat - Tully had a lot of trouble adjusting to Amelia at first. She was very mad at me and ignored me for the first week! Turning her back on me when I went outside and refusing to come to me - but that soon passed. She is pretty good now, but not that interested in Amelia yet. However - if I am out hanging out washing and Amelia starts crying - Tully will run to the back door and stand guard! Very cute! Her personality has changed a little too. She is much more chilled out now - not really a bad thing. We try to walk her as much as possible. How is Keg with Cassidy?
On the bouncer/swing thing - I let Amelia sleep in her bouncer for a while if that's where she falls asleep. I have had a shower with her asleep in it before. I feel it's safe - as she is strapped in (It's no different than the car seat I figure) If that's what gets them to sleep and they are cumfy - I say leave them! (Only if you want to!)

Donna - Hope your settling techniques work with Addison! How are you coping with all three kids on your own? You sound like you are doing amazingly well!

Lavin - Great that you were able to get out with a GF and have a drink! I had my first wine on the weekend and it knocked me for 6! Glad that Mia is being good for you overnight!

Kristee - Sorry to hear about Hunter's colic/reflux. Hope it gets better for you soon! I'm glad you have your hubby to support you.

Hailey - I'm so glad you are feeling better about things! It was great your Mum was able to give you some relief and help get Malakai into a routine. Hope it stays that way for you!

Sorry girls -that's all I can remember!

We are off to Big W now to have some photo's printed off! Ahhh the things you get excited about these days!

Hope everyone has a lovely day! :hugs:

[Lavin]

:wave: Ladies,

Donna - How is the settling techniques working with Addison going? You definitely deserve getting out to the beauty salon to get pampered! you are such a good mum to have 3 littlies!!! :) I dont know how you or anyone can manage more than one baby, i wanted to have 2 kids but im not sure if we will go back again, even though she is such a good baby, i just couldnt imagine two now, is that normal? Shannon has been so fantastic, so supportive, he is always really calm which really helps! It will be hard i think when he has to go back to work in 2 weeks but hopefully will be ok!

Sarah - How did your photos turn out?? I bet you had stacks and stacks to go through? How did you go with getting in to see an lc today?

Its very quiet here at the moment, Mia is usually awake during the day more but now she seems to also be napping for a few hours here and there during the day, hubby even did the 2am feed this morning so i slept from 11pm til 6am, seems like so long now to get 7 hours in bed! Hopefully she will still sleep during the night still.
Just organised to go and get Mia's foot and hand sculpted and a photo done with a frame on Friday, cant wait to see the end result in about 5 weeks so we can put it up just outside the nursery!!!!!

Hope everyone has a fantastic arvo :hugs:

[MooandMoo2]

Lavin im so glad to hear little Mia is sleeping well for u it makes such a difference, Hunter is finally asleep he was up crying for 21hours OMG the memories... its DS1 all over again, hes so beautiful and worth it all.

hope everyone is doing well, DS1 is asleep on me at the moment, i need another set of hands

[GeorgiaAnne]

:hugs::hugs: Flick, you are wondermum

[Teto]

Flick, that sounds awful for you. We've learned that bubs need time alone away from us stimulating them, to sleep and recover, so if you find yourself walking around rocking and patting a crying bub for several hours straight it could be that the main problem is tiredness rather than digestive trouble? Just a possibility.

Our bub is a bit unsettled today as well, though the last two nights have been very good - feeds at about 9pm, 2am and 6-7am. Be nice to keep that up!

Didn't do much today - just a quick grocery trip and a walk to the park. Better go supervise my risotto, bbl!

[hayleysmummy]

Hey all,

Just popped in for a quick hello before I wake DS up for a bath, he has been uncontrollably screaming all on and off all day I was up with both him and DD screaming together til 11pm last night which resulted in three of us crying til I finally got DD to sleep then DS I tell ya I could have put them both back where they came from last night :laughing: Aaron was here so he took DS and tried rocking him etc etc til I got DD off but it just wouldnt work, well thats my vent I do have good news though I entered the bubhub competition for a fathers day beer pack and won $450 worth of beer and accessories just a shame I dont drink, think I might pass them off as chrissy or birthday pressies if they last that long :D

Flick hun I'm so sorry you are going through this and with a 16month old I agree with georgia you definately are wondermum and seem to be coping really well considering :hugs:

Haha Sarah I get excited about photos too, I hope the hospy can help withj your attachment issues another thing thats really good is joinging the australian breastfeeding association for $50 for 12 months you get a book and are able to get 24hr breastfeeding help have a look at the website theres some great info there.

Starmummy huge :hugs: to you hun I really hope this passes for you and hubby soon.Has Hunter got colix or reflux maybe? I cant begin to imagine what your going through sorry I'm not much help

It's quite in here lately

Judy I hope you enjoyed mum and bubs group at your house how did it go?

well I better get dinner ready

[cassvanm]

Hi girls
Just a quick one to give you an update. I have been having an atrocious time time bf Piper - it turns out she's a bit tongue tied, which is what is causing the pain. I am working with a lactation consultant for the past 2 days, which has been very emotional, painful but I tihnk worth it. She is such a trooper of a bub.
Re: settling. My settling techniques are very much like Sissy. They seem to be working, and last night Piper slept through! I couldn't belleve it! Needed the sleep though.
:hugs: to those who are struggling - it can only get better!
Chat soon lovely ladies
Cass

[MooandMoo2]

Hi everyone, your all so nice and sweet im defiantely no supermum i dont know what id do with out you all.

Hunter is screaming again but he actually slept for 3 hours so far today so thats something! i dont know what id do with a 'normalish' baby, i have no idea why both my babies have been like this :( reflux and colic is not fun for them or us.

I had my first little cry today, Hunter was screaming, Cooper was screaming and making him self throw up everywhere as he does when he crys and i was trying to do Hunters bottles when i knocked a glass of the sink that smashed everywhere, but i pulled myself together and did what i had to do.... as we all do.

Cass i hope feeding gets better soon for you and big hugs to all of you we all need it!

i better go take Hunter from his daddy and have my turn at bouncing, rocking, patting, laying down etc what ever it takes

take care

[AmyLou]

HI EVERYONE!! I'M BACK!

We got home from hospital on Monday at 10am and i've just been busy busy with out little man that i haven't had a chance to get on and read all the posts i missed out on till now!

Thanks to my buddies for filling everyone in. As you may have read i ended up having a c-sec. I went in to be induced Wed 24/9 at midnight, gels were started at 1am and by 2am i was having very mild contractions.. A few hours passed and by morning the contractions were getting stronger... My blood pressure started to get a bit high so they took some bloods and a wee sample to check things out, everything came back fine! At 7am dr came in and did a not so nice internal to find that my cervix was still 2cm long with no dilation and bubs head was quite high. He said he would be back at lunch to check me out again. Contractions got worse and the midwife had me going for walks and rolling on the gym ball and climbing stairs to try and make him move down. At lunch i had another internal and was only 1 cm dilated and bubs was still really high up. He said that he would be back at 4 and if nothing much has happened then we would have to talk about our options... So i was off again, walking around the hospital stopping every two minutes for a contraction (i hate exercising at the best of times and they had me doing it while in pain!) Soo anyway at the 4pm internal i was only 2cm dilated and bubs hadn't moved. The dr said that we have a big bub in there and thinks that he can't fit through my pelvis and he thinks our best option is a c-sec. He said we could continue to labour for hours and something may happen but he really doubted it and thought a c-sec our best option as bubs stats were good and if we kept going he could go into distress. He then said that he could get things organised for us and we would have our baby within the hour... That freaked me out and once the dr walked out i burst into tears... not quite sure why, i guess just because i hadn't thought i would need a c-sec and it kinda snuck up on me!

Anyway at 5.26pm our little man Blake was born and to the dr's suprise he wasn't that big he was just stuck. It was so amazing to hear our little guy for the first time, really was an amazing experience!

We are both doing well however this feeding business is hard! It seems that i'm not producing enough milk for my little guy.. the dr gave me some tabs to take to encourage as much milk as possible and at the moment i am having to give him top ups with formula. I am prepared that i may need to just bottle feed him which is absolutely fine, i have nothing against formula, i just want to make sure he is getting enough milk, makes me feel awful when we spend an hour on the couch feeding and he's starving straight after... :(

Anyway it's great to be home and back on the hub!

[Pina Colada]

Flick - you are a super mum. I can't believe you only had your first cry today. I balled for 2 weeks straight, and I have nothing to cry about, and you do. You are a positive, loving mother and I admire how you are getting through this :hugs:

Jordan - :hugs: for you too hon. Sounds like you have a rought night. It is a different ball game with older bubs to look after as well isn't it. I'm glad Aaron was there for you, and fingers crossed for a better night tonight.

Cass - More hugs needed! :hugs: I hope you can get some further help bf Piper, at least now you know there is a problem, and hopefully you and her can overcome it together.

Amylou - Welcome back! Thanks for sharing your birth experience, and although it didn't work out the way you planned, you sound so happy. I hope you can sort out your milk supply soon :hugs: Look forward to you joining us her again!

Well, Addison has decided she isn't too fussed on day sleeps. She was up at 6am and between then and 11am, she had 2 little 20min catnaps. Then she slept for 3 hours, and we went shopping, and then she was awake until 6pm. So in 12 hours she had a little over 3 and a half hours :rolleyes: But she seems to be sleeping well at night, a big 5 hour stretch at the beginning of the night (when I am still awake of course) and then waking at around midnight and 4am.

She is feeding wonderfully, and growing so fast! She is too long for 000 all in ones! Yasmine and Liam have been really quite good - I feel a bit bad because I seem to be getting through the day to day things ok, but nothing else - no activities or special times with the kids.

So we got out the little paddling pool this afternoon (as it is already over 30deg here) and we'll have a couple of plays in the pool tomorrow.

FX for a great night for us all.

[MooandMoo2]

Sissy thanks for being so nice :) reading your post almost made me cry again and im so not a crier! haha...

Well Hunter is asleep at the moment, it seems if we can get to eventually go to sleep (still only averaging 3-4 hours all up per 24hrs its in our arms standing up how on earth do they know that you've sat down?

ok spoke to soon hes crying again, its heart breaking, i can deal with the fact that hes hard work but i cant deal with the fact that hes upset thats really upsetting, i know i went threw this with Cooper but that doesn't make it less heart breaking :( i have no idea where i went wrong? i ate everything i was supose to and avoided what i wasn't supose to eat, i took my vitims, i stayed active, i didn't gain very much weight (my ticker is for what i want to lose all my baby weight was off with in 2 weeks) i have no idea why my babies have to suffer in pain :(

[GeorgiaAnne]

We've learned that bubs need time alone away from us stimulating them, to sleep and recover, so if you find yourself walking around rocking and patting a crying bub for several hours straight it could be that the main problem is tiredness rather than digestive trouble? Just a possibility.


Them's wise words lady! Couldn't agree more.
Amy - Sorry you ended up with an unwanted c-sec, I know how that feels x 2. Keep up the good work with your breastfeeding, the more you have em on, the more milk you make so do't despair - sometimes it takes a while longer after a c-sec as well, but as you say, FF is no worries for you.
Flick - I would've cried too mate :hugs:
Donna - I'm sure you'll get to your special time with each of the kids - I try to with DD every day as well but she is soo much more reliant on dh now, which is quite sweet as well.
Jordan - well done on the beer pack:laughing: I hope you have a better night tonight.

Me: Charlie is quite chilled out tonight which is odd as he is usually quite feral about now - I hope he's not saving it until later :fingerscrossed: I've had a nice quiet day with a visit from SIL and nephew which was lovely. I also organised all Sophia's clothes into those vacuum storage bags and labelled them all - I think nesting kicked in a bit late :p It made me want another girl though as they are so cute!

[GeorgiaAnne]

Sissy thanks for being so nice :) reading your post almost made me cry again and im so not a crier! haha...

Well Hunter is asleep at the moment, it seems if we can get to eventually go to sleep (still only averaging 3-4 hours all up per 24hrs its in our arms standing up how on earth do they know that you've sat down?

ok spoke to soon hes crying again, its heart breaking, i can deal with the fact that hes hard work but i cant deal with the fact that hes upset thats really upsetting, i know i went threw this with Cooper but that doesn't make it less heart breaking :( i have no idea where i went wrong? i ate everything i was supose to and avoided what i wasn't supose to eat, i took my vitims, i stayed active, i didn't gain very much weight (my ticker is for what i want to lose all my baby weight was off with in 2 weeks) i have no idea why my babies have to suffer in pain :(

Please don't blame yourself. Have you tried going to a Karitane or Tresilian settling course? I went to a morning class with DD and learnt a few tricks. Also, there are some other ways of settling other than cuddling and walking in books like "Secrets of the baby whisperer" and "No-cry sleep solution" Hey, i'm no expert but maybe it would be worth trying some other things?

[AmyLou]

Just thought i would post some pics of my gorgeous little guy.. i just can't believe that dh and i created him, so amazing!

Not even an hour old (http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh55/Amy_Lou85/blake3.jpg)

Sleepy boy (http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh55/Amy_Lou85/BlakeJayden107.jpg)

Dressed and ready to leave the hospital (http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh55/Amy_Lou85/BlakeJayden148.jpg)

In the capsule (http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh55/Amy_Lou85/BlakeJayden158.jpg)

After a bath (http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh55/Amy_Lou85/BlakeJayden193.jpg)

Hope everyone has a good night tonight!

[MooandMoo2]

Thanks GeorgiaAnne, i will try that this time if things dont settle down soon, with Cooper everytime id look into i felt like i was a failure and he'd come good, then id cancel and hed get bad again, i should have stuck my ground and gone though, although his specialist thinks for him it would have made no difference he is so head strong and will not ever give in. argh being a mum is so rewarding but such hard work!

[MooandMoo2]

Amylou he is goregous :) i love the little wrinkles bubbas get on there foreheads its so sweet

[MooandMoo2]

ok am i crazy or what? DS1 Cooper 18 months had sever reflux (still has reflux but not as bad cause hes upright all the time and only on solids etc) would cry for 15*17 hours a day,bad colic, jaundice, a hole in the heart, heart murmur, cant go in the car because he vomits approx 3 times every 12-15 mins, doesn't sleep day or night or if he does its in someones arms and not for long, some nights he can wake every 10-15mins all night.

Hunter can cry for up to 21 hours, doesn't like to sleep, showing all signs of reflux and colic like his brother, but yet there both sooooo beautiful, i love them both soooo much,i love spending all my time with them, i have all the patience in the world and cant get enough of them, just heart the heart breaking part of them being in pain or crying... and tonight i spoke to hubby about baby number 3!! am i crazy??? i have no time to me at all, and i seriously mean that, well any second i can get im on here haha.... i just love my kids there my life i cant get enough of them, i love watching Cooper laugh and cuddle and kiss his little brother Hunter and hes so in love.

by the way hubby's answer was hes booking in for the snip lol so if i want another it wont be with him hahaha....

anyone else feeling crazy like me?

[GeorgiaAnne]

Congrats Amy Lou - what a handsome boy, well done :yelclap::yelclap:

Flick - The whole thing about those courses is that you can learn ways to deal with the headstrong nature as they are the ones that often need routine and discipline the most as it ca make them feel safe and secure knowing what will happen next. It was not cc, it was just settling techniques. It is no failure to ask for help - all mummies need it sometimes. Is it now that ds1 vomits for attention? Apparently that is quite common in this age group. I'm sure there's some strategies to cope with that as well, especially if it escalates with the birth of Hunter. I'm thinking about # 3 as well - definitely crazy over here too!:laughing:

[Teto]

Well Hunter is asleep at the moment, it seems if we can get to eventually go to sleep (still only averaging 3-4 hours all up per 24hrs its in our arms standing up how on earth do they know that you've sat down?

ok spoke to soon hes crying again, its heart breaking, i can deal with the fact that hes hard work but i cant deal with the fact that hes upset thats really upsetting, i know i went threw this with Cooper but that doesn't make it less heart breaking :( It's probably nothing to do with your diet or weight or other things like that. He's just severely overtired. He needs to be allowed to sleep! I really endorse the sleep school strategy. I went for a day with Ripley and it changed our lives and our baby was almost overnight a happier more well rested bub. Do it!

Okay I'm going to be honest here and I hope this is not too harsh, but a lot of what you say below suggests that you are the needy one and that you find it really hard to leave your bub alone. This is natural but in the long run it can be really hard on you and really hard on bub. Babies really need a lot of undisturbed time to sleep. If you disrupt their attempts to do so by constantly trying to do something to help them, they just get more tired and more stressed.

there both sooooo beautiful, i love them both soooo much,i love spending all my time with them, i have all the patience in the world and cant get enough of them.... i just love my kids there my life i cant get enough of them
PS. Georgia, Secrets of the Baby Whisperer is our bible, pretty much! So balanced and so much sense.

[DeannaMay]

Hi Ladies :wave:

Just tried to do a bit of a catch up on the posts - but struggling to remember it all (sleep deprived like everyone!!).
I seriously admire you ladies with more than one bubba! I don't know how you do it... but I too have been thinking about #2 already too! The last uncomfortable month or so of pregnancy is still quite vivid though :)

AmyLou - I loved your photos! Your little man looks so tiny and precious.
Flick - I hope that things get better for you love. :iagree: that the sleep school idea sounds like a good one and worth a shot.
Sissy - isn't amazing how bubba will have big sleeps when you're out and about during the day & when you have stuff to do during the day- but want to party all night long when we really need some sleep! The 5 hour stretch sounds good though!
Cass - :hugs: hope the BF gets better.
Jordan - congrats on the win! I entered that comp too.

We're doing well here. I worry that Max isn't getting enough sleep though. He is up every two hours on the dot (sometimes more often than that) and I have been getting him up for a feed or a cuddle every time he cries. This morning though I have tried standing next to him and shushing him and we have started using a dummy so I have started poking that in a bit more often so he can self settle rather than fall asleep in our arms all the time. I think that it was either Georgia or Cass who suggested it and even though it's only been a couple of hours he is crying less and less everytime I go in - so far so good! Thank you so much ladies :hugs:
Hopefully he can stretch the sleeping out bit more often!

Sorry for the :ecomcity: again. I seem to come on and 'binge post'!

Hope everyone has a good day.

[mummy2jack08]

Hi Ladies,:wave:

we are home finally:)

Jack had a few probs in hospital, was on oxygen and had a bit of jaundice.. but he is all good now!!

We had an interesting night last night, first night at home.. he slept from 7.30 - 12.30 then didnt settle from then till about 5 prop, he would wake every 30-40 mins to feed... (That is interesting) about 5 he ended up in our bed and slept till 8.. now he is up and down every hour :(

Now i member people saying breast feeding is hard but this is just rediculous... he is slightly tounge tied and having alot of probs.. plus he cant attach half the time because my boobs are soooooo full!!!
Ok enough :ecomcity: for me sorry!! i needed to get off my chest

Jordan lucky u winning the prize!!
Cass i feel for u with the breast feeding!! :hugs:

take care everyone!!
Leece

[Teto]

Welcome home Leece! Breastfeeding is hard the first time, you are sore and tired and you feel like you need eight arms for the positioning. If your boobs are so full try hand expressing a few drops before the feed, it soften and moistens your nipples and helps him know where to find the goodies! Keep at it hon, it's sooo much easier in the long run.

[MooandMoo2]

Mia I was only trying to get the point across that i love my kids because i wrote a post that its hard work with reflux babies and id had a little cry, i didn't want anyone getting the wrong idea. Im guessing you've never had reflux babies so you probably have no idea that you cant just leave them all the time to go to sleep on there own, or just leave them to cry with out picking them up or comforting them because they are screaming in pain. I dont have issues with leaving my children be when its sleep time etc. I didn't realise this thread was about judging and bagging other people when there not in that persons shoes? I might just move on.

Leece glad to hear you home and little Jack is doing so much better :)

Good luck everyone with your bubbas, there all so beautiful you've all done so well.
Flick

[Jel]

:hugs:

[Teto]

Wooo, sorry, was just trying to help

[GeorgiaAnne]

:hugs::hugs: Flick, i'm sure Mia was not trying to criticise your parenting or assume to know what you are going through. I thought she was trying to give another perspective which may be helpful as by the sounds of what you are going through, it would be good to try something different.

[MooandMoo2]

Hi GA, im always open to help advice suggestions and constructive critisim, most of you girls (yourself included :) ) have been so supportive and of so much help.

[AmyLou]

Hi ladies how are we all today??

We went on our first little outing today which was fun... DH had to play soccer for his work team so we went and watched! Everyone commented on how little he was and how cute he is!

Blake is doing really well and i'm waiting for something to change, pretty much at the moment he eats and sleeps, hopefully he doesn't wake up and become a pain.

Flick - I'm so sorry you are having troubles with your little ones.. it must be hard not only having one child unwell but both, you poor thing!

Hop everyone is having a nice day!

[GeorgiaAnne]

Hi GA, im always open to help advice suggestions and constructive critisim, most of you girls (yourself included :) ) have been so supportive and of so much help.

Hey, I think you're doing well to keep a smile on your face - if my bubbas cried that much i'd prob. send them off to be adopted :D:devil:

[mummy2jack08]

Thanks flick!

:hugs:Flick i dont no how you would deal with it... i no that my DFs daughter had reflux and her mum didnt cope at all, she ended up with depression!! stay strong u are a good mum and will work out well!! I am here if u ever need 2 talk about anything! :)

[cassvanm]

Hi girls
As discussed earlier, I've started a weight loss thread. It has been started here: http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=3101512#post3101512 (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=3101512#post3101512)
It's in the health issues section, under weight section.
Hope to see you there
Cass

[Lavin]

Evening Ladies :wave:

Welcome home Leece, good to see you and bubs are doing good, i hope that the bf difficulties works out for you soon. How are you going today? :hugs:

Amylou - Sounds like your little family had an awesome day out, how good is it to get out and about all together! :)

Flick - Hope you are feeling better now, you are very strong to be able to cope and i hope that things get better for you soon :hugs:

Well we are just about to sit down to dinner here and have a wine together, little miss is in bed and we had a good day today of not having to do anything and stay in pjs all day, feels good.

Hope everyone is having a good night :)

[mummy2jack08]

Hey Lavlin,

I am good thanks, the BF is going well today had help from nurse came 2 see me at home hehe.... I have a shower before feeding as i dont have a pump atm, so helps express and relieve pain... :)

Glad u had a good day and that u were able to have a wine and relax :)

Hope everyone has a good night! xxx

[Mum2Sierra&Caelyn]

Hey everyone!
Have been a bit MIA as I have been back in hospital with a DVT.
On Saturday I noticed I had pain in my groin on the same side as I get the sciatic nerve pain, and at first I thought it was just a new pain coming from my back... that arvo I was in a fair amount of pain but still didnt think much of it.
Sunday morning I could barely move and tried to get my mum or someone to come and help out for the next week as DH was going back to work but mum was busy, My sister who lives nearby was working and I really didn't want to ask my MIL unless I really had to!. I just thought I would have to muddle through as normal.
Sunday Night, I was in excruciating pain!, I didn't go to the hospital as I didn't know what I was dealing with at that point, I thought it might have been a number of things...
Monday morning, after having hardly any sleep I had the sudden realisation that I probably had a clot as the pain was going from my groin and down my leg and as of that morning my leg was swollen and looking purple!. I could walk at all, moving was nearly impossible!.
I rang my mum who has has clots before (we all have a family history of being vulnerable to them) to get her oppinion and she told me to waste no time getting to the hospital and that she was dropping everything to come over but she lives 2 hours away so we needed someone else to look after Sierra and Caelyn before we could go... luckily I finally got onto a family friend and she came over in 5 mins, and then DH (after a lot of crying and stuggling to get to the car on my part) took me to the Emergency Room at the hospital.
Turns out I have a huge DVT that goes from my groin to my knee!. I have to take blood thinning injections (huge dose) 2 times a day and gradually warfarin for up to 6 months, as well as a stocking that has to go up to my hip.
It also means a lot of changes that have to be made.
My mum, myself and my whole family are pretty mad as the whole point of me going to a specialist for pregnancy was so they could give me the preventative injections straight after birth, but my OB in his wisdom :mad: decided that I didn't need them, even though he knew about ourfamily history and that I wasn't as mobile because of my back. Instead he told me to wear my TEDS and I would be fine. 2 weeks later I went to my GP (who also knows all the history) and told him I was concerned as I was sitting down way too much because of my back and was scared of developing a clot, and he said not to worry, and that he wouldn't put me on the injections either.
So basically this was all preventable, and now I have to go through excruciating pain, all because of my two doctors didn't listen:banghead:.
If the clot breaks up and parts of it go to my lungs there is still a chance that I could either be in even more pain and have to have yet further treatment or worse case senario is that it could potentially kill me.

Sorry for the vent ladies... will be back to do personals another time!.
Going to take my many painkillers and blood thinners and go to bed :(

[hayleysmummy]

OMG Alison that is terrible news hun :hugs: Thats a hell of alot of meds too and to think it could have been prevented I cant begin to imagine how angry you must be, sending you lots of get well soon vibes and some more :hugs:

Leece Congrats again hun and welcome home I bet Jack is just gorgeous, you will get the hang of breastfeeding it just takes time just dont stress over it and call the midwives for help if you need it.

Is it just me or is Judy missing I havent seen her on for a while

Amy-lou I hope you enjoyed your day out that would have been lovely

It was my mums bday today so we also went out for a nice lunch, then I had to take Izzy to the doctor as he has green snot and vomitted green phlem up this morning (caught it from DD's kisses) but there isnt anything I can do it does explain our terrible night monday night though I just wish I could take his sickness away, poor lil man :(

[Lavin]

Alison, omg what a terrible thing you have just had to go through because 2 doctors didnt do anything to prevent it :mad: I cant believe they would do that to you and now you have to go through all of this! I really hope that you start to feel better soon and you have lots of family there for the support you need! Have as good a sleep as you can possibly get right now Lots and lots of :hugs: to you

Leece - Thats great that you got the help you needed with the bf, hope things keep getting better for you :)

Night ladies, hope all mums and bubbas are doing great

[Lavin]

Jordan i hope Izzy gets better soon for you and you have some better nights really soon! I cant imagine what it would be like for bubbas to get sick and not be able to do anything for them. Glad you had a yummy lunch today with your mum :)

[GeorgiaAnne]

OMG Alison, that's awful you poor love :hugs::hugs: I can understand your anger. I hope you get better really quickly.
Leece - Yay for your bf getting better, good on you
Jordan - I hope little Izzy gets better quickly, poor lil man it seems too young to be sick :hugs:
Lavinia - Sounds like you're going great - hope you have a nice glass of wine :)

Me: I'm tired and emotional tonight. I've started bleeding again and i'm feeling fat. I think the cause is my bf's wedding is next weekend and I have nothing to wear. Not really a big deal but it feels like it today :crying:

[JJJ&D'sMum]

I finally get to log on here and there are so many posts to catch up on and I'm so tired that I can't remember hardly anything of what I've just read. So forgive me if I miss anyone.

Alison you poor woman....if I were you I would have summoned up the strength to abuse both of those dr's for their incompetence. How negligent of them to think that you'd be ok when they knew your history! I'm so glad that you're ok though and I wish you a speedy recovery from it.

Leece welcome home hun. Great to hear that little Jack is back on track. Keep perservering with the BF and soon enough it'll be second nature to you.....you're doing a great job there.

Jordan how are you coping on your own with 2 sick littlies? I'm barely coping with lack of sleep atm let alone having to deal with sick kids...I really don't know how you do it sometimes.

The past few days have been totally hectic around here with kids/people in and out all the time. I'm glad it's finally going to slow down and I'm hoping to have a totally lazy day tomorrow just so I can relax and spend as much time with DD as possible. She's feeling a bit left out so a bit of mummy time is in order.
A few of the ladies from our Mums & Bubs group came to visit me on Monday and I now have a gift voucher to spend on whatever I like for Deon. A shopping trip is in order soon I think.
Then yesterday my sister came to visit bearing gifts for Deon from herself and several people so I now have more clothing to wash, fold and put away. I'm so over doing washing lately whether it be clothing or dishes. If I feel up to it I might tackle it tomorrow otherwise it can just wait.
:fingerscrossed: I don't have any visitors tomorrow!

BTW - Jordan thanks for thinking of me.

[DeannaMay]

Hi All

Judy - I hope that you get some peace today. You can spend some time day dreaming what to spend those vouchers on :)

Alison - you poor thing. How maddening that you went out of your way to make sure that everyone was briefed and they chose to ignore it & now you're in so much pain. I would be fuming! Are there any community groups that can come and help with you with housework, etc so you can concentrate on resting and getting better?

Cass - thanks for the link to the weight loss thread. Just what I need to get going! Woo hoo!

We had a pretty good night last night. Bubba had a few hours of crying but I think that it's partly because we are not interpreting his signals properly (and Mia - I took the settling suggestions from you - thank you!).
I'm starting to get a bit nervous on how I'll cope when DP goes back to work...

On a brighter note - today looks like it's going to be a beautiful day and I plan to do loads and loads of washing and go for a walk (that's the plan anyway... :p)

:hugs: to anyone feeling a bit sleep deprived or who has sickies.

[KatieLou]

Kat - I had such attachment issues with DD1, I ended up getting a lactation consultant to the house after 2 weeks, and she sorted me out. It still took me 6 weeks to feed without any pain. And the scarring on my nipples were a pain when breastfeeding the other two, as it would flare up again, but it passed much quicker, after a week or so.

Oh hell, I didn't think about scarring or it causing probs next time... it just gets better and better doesn't it! :D


Kat - Sorry about your boobs luv, do they hurt the whole feed or just for the first 30 secs or so? I hope the hosp. get back to you with some help. We're still struggling a bit too but I figure it's gradually improving so i'm just gritting my teeth and going on.



KATIELOU my nipples still hurt lots too although once the feed is under way its not too bad. I have already been to see the LC at the hospital but fat lot of use that was i saw her for like 15mins and that was it.
I hope you have better luck with a LC than i did.



For those having BF issues - I can sympathise. Amelia is 6 weeks old this week and we are still having issues. She has had attatchment problems all along. It doesn't 'hurt' to BF per say, but it is not always comfortable and even if I get her on and it feels 'right' she will just wriggle herself into a position that suits her better and pulls/hurst me!
I decided overnight that I too will ring the hospy today and see what BF support they offer and maybe see their lactation consultant. I figure I may as well use the help if it is available. I bet they will tell me I'm doing it all wrong!!!

:hugs: to all of those having bf problems. Although I feel for you all it's kind of refreshing to know that I am not alone in all of this - it seems a pretty common thing to have probs with. The hospy couldn't help me so I bit the bullet and paid for a private LC to come and see me yesterday as I was sick of trying to deal with the support in the community. She was there 2 hours after I rang her to see the next feed and has corrected a couple of key things that I was doing wrong, as well as showing me a different hold for the side Cassidy doesn't like. It's still too early to tell if all my probs are solved as it hurts to start with as the nipples are damaged, but it doesn't hurt as much during the feed and I am alot more relaxed about it. $100 well spent I think.
Unfortunately though Cassidy had a bad sleep day yesterday and screamed the whole time this woman was here unless she was being fed, and even then she wasn't feeding as much as she normally would. So now this woman thinks I have settling problems as well, when this was the 1st day she's done that!

How did you go with getting help from the hospital Sarah? For anyone in Melb both the Womens and the Mercy offer free day clinics for bf, I just wanted it fixed now and couldn't wait.


- Tully had a lot of trouble adjusting to Amelia at first. She was very mad at me and ignored me for the first week! Turning her back on me when I went outside and refusing to come to me - but that soon passed. She is pretty good now, but not that interested in Amelia yet. However - if I am out hanging out washing and Amelia starts crying - Tully will run to the back door and stand guard! Very cute! Her personality has changed a little too. She is much more chilled out now - not really a bad thing. We try to walk her as much as possible. How is Keg with Cassidy?

Keg's been pretty good. He wasn't very interested in her at first, but like Tully now he gets all protective when she cries. He's very good when I am holding Cassidy, he stands guard next to me which is very cute , but he's a little funny when dh is holding her - nothing to worry about, but different. He's getting used to things now and seems to be taking it all in his stride.

Flick - :hugs: I hope today is a better day.

Alison - WTF!?! I can't believe that 2 doctors chose not to put you on Clexane! I'm on it and from what I remember your family history is much worse than mine! :hugs: to you and I hope that this all gets sorted out surprisingly easily and not as complex or dangerous as you've described.

Leece - welcome home! Good to hear that everything is sorting itelf out for you.

Georgia - How are you today? You are beautiful and will look stunning whatever you wear to the wedding. i know what you mean though.... :hugs:

Judy - I hope today is relaxing for you - sounds like you need it!

Jordan - how is Izzy today?

Hi to everyone else :wave: I hope we all have happy restful day! LOL! Yeah right!

[Pina Colada]

Well, I typed out a big post with lots of personals and then I lost it :banghead: so I'll be back later to check in and do some personals.

Liam seemed to go down with gastro again yesterday. He woke up from his nap caked in vomit and so was his bed, I have these nightmares that we vomited in his sleep and slept in it, I feel terrible :( He was screaming in pain for a few hours yesterday afternoon, and fell asleep on the couch about 5pm (which is completely unheard of).

He seems alot better today, and just finished off his breakfast, so fingers crossed that is it.

Yasmine was in daycare yesterday, and she is always such a horror when she comes home. Does anybody else have this happen with their kids are care??

Well my settling techniques with Addison seem to be paying off already. Her nap this morning, and her nap yesterday lunch time, I just wrapped her, kissed her, popped her down, and rubbed her tummy til her eyes drooper (about 1min), and then left the room. Both times she popped off to sleep by herself :yelclap:

I have ALOT of bookwork to do today, so better go and get started :rolleyes: