Feedback needed from anyone been to Tresillian residential lately.

[CLR]

Hi I have a 5 month old that only sleeps for a couple of 45 sleeps during the day and wakes up every couple hours all night, hungry and cranky. I rock him to sleep and this isn't working anymore and our family including the baby are exhausted. Ive been referred to Tresillian residential and was wanting some feedback from parents who have been recently (they have apparently recently changed there stance on controlled crying and don't do it as such routinely). I really don't want to go, but feel that I can't sort this out alone. I think we have some routine and feeding problems also.
So I you have been, id love to know how you found it.:sleeping:

[kylza]

can't help u at all, but i think u may have my baby!!!:hugs::hugs::hugs: Know exactly how u feel would love to know how u get on. My ds is 5 months old aswell and has never slept longer than 40 mins during the day, and still wakes at night. Hope u can resolve ur dramas soon.

[CLR]

Im glad im not alone, the 45 min nappers are apparently very common. I just go with it and don't even bother to try and get him sleeping longer, otherwise i'd spend my day getting him to sleep. Im more worried about the rocking to sleep and night waking.

[Amused]

Hey,

We just spent 4 nights at Tresillian for both my 11 month old DD and 2yr 3month old DS. What can I tell you... they basically encouraged me and the other mums to let their bubs cry, but you can go and resettle. I recommend the experience, and I am not a huge fan of CC. DD hasn't needed a feed overnight since, however DS is only just started to come back to as good as he was (he has been worse than he has ever been since, but he has other issues). You really need to go with an open mind but please don't leave your mind at home if you know what I mean.

What I liked the most was seeing other mums out there who were struggling with the same things I was without sprouting the "I love everything about being a Mum" line. It was nice!

Umm, I'm a little scattered. Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions, I'm happy to chat :)

[nicoleE]

Please read my thread http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=194943 about my 'day stay' experience at CYH. I know it isnt the same place but you may like to try the sleep technique they teach. It involves wrapping which makes them feel secure and teaches them to self settle.
Even though my DD is 10 months she sounds allot like your baby, catnapper during the day and waking every 2 hrs at night, and she has been like this for a few months, probably since about 6 or 7 months. Although your little one will probably want a feed or two during the night at that age and (im assuming not on solids yet) but you can always get up and feed when needed then re wrap.

Anyway the technique i was taught has worked wonders with VERY few tears (none now, at the most a couple of whinges) and DD now goes down at night and i generally dont hear from her until about 4am. I resettle but she doesnt last long after this, im thinking she is hungry (i've tried water) as she is certainly hungry when she comes in bed with us whenever she wakes after 5am (she has a BF in bed and sleeps the rest of the morning with us).

well, hope that may have been of some help to you.

[CLR]

:hugs:Nicole E, thank you for your response.
I called Tresillian and there is a 2 month wait, doubt I can wait that long. Anyway, I read your Day stay diary and tried it out yesterday.... nothing short of a miracle. Only cried for 5 minutes, and it was barely a cry and slept for an hour.... have never ever got more than 45 mins, then againin the afternoon, only took 3 minutes and I got a 3 hour sleep and have to wake him up - that has never ever remotely happened. Overnight, he slept for 4 hours, fed, then up at 1 (5 min settle) and a feed at 6, then awake... what an improvement, in such a short time - beats getting up 10 times a night and maybe 3-4 feeds. This morning, it took 5 mins to get him down and I didn't even have to feed him again after his early morning feed. Unbeleivable!!:yelclap:
I might not have to go to Tresillian at this rate.
Anyone reading, read NicoleE's diary and give it a go. I have battled and stressed sleep since day 1, the key seems to be consistency at every sleep and don't give up when there is a bit of a cry as, its at that point they fall asleep (previously this is when I'd call it quits and rock in arms). Thanks again.. and wish me luck hope it continues.

[nicoleE]

As I said in my PM no problems, happy to help and so glad it seems to be working!

Just wanted to add that I was told DD would go 'backwards' and protest a little around day 4... just when I thought she wasnt going to as she was doing SO well she did!
So stay strong and dont give up! :fingerscrossed:

[CLR]

Hi, wanted to let bubhubbers know there is currently a 2 month wait to get to tresillian and a 2 week wait to discuss your problems ask questions and get a date. I have followed Nicole's day stay diary and also called parent help line for advice and basically, its a case of
WRAP, SHUSH AND PAT.... at every sleep, every time. anyway, after 3 days he's going down in his cot in 5 mins, without too much crying and waking 2-3 times a night vs 10 times.

[madlaina]

We were exactly in the same boat when DS was that age - Tresillian residential stay was a lifesaver. I don't know about any very recent changes, as we were there almost a year ago, but although the nurses encouraged us to not go in as soon as DS started crying, they also encouraged us to follow our instincts and the first 2 days, a nurse sat with us every single time we put DS down and talked us through what was happening.

I would talk to your GP/ECHN to get a referral. As you said, there is a waiting list. If you feel you don't need it anymore, you can cancel any time. But if you continue having trouble it helps to be already on the list.

Unless they've changed their procedures, you will have to do a daystay first, but should be able to get into a residential stay very quickly thereafter if deemed necessary (usually within a week or so).

Also remember, waiting lists aren't written in stone. Urgent cases will get preferential treatment. In our case, it took a letter from our GP outlining the seriousness of the situation (both DS and I on antidepressants and undergoing counselling) and a tearful telephone call from me to Tresillian directly - we got offered a spot the very next day.


You really need to go with an open mind but please don't leave your mind at home if you know what I mean.

What I liked the most was seeing other mums out there who were struggling with the same things I was without sprouting the "I love everything about being a Mum" line. It was nice!
:iagree:
Good luck!

[Geneva]

Even if you feel like you've solved the problem by yourself, go to Tresillian if you can get a booking! I went about a month ago with my (then) six month old son and it was brilliant. It took some follow up calls from my local early childhood health nurse to let them know I was a priority case and convince them to give me an earlier spot. (I'd originally been scheduled for October). Then they phoned me every time they had a cancellation until one came up I could take.

Anyway, yes it involved crying (at first) for a period of time, and I found that really hard for the first day or two. Then my son seemed to start "getting it" and the time it took him to settle for a nap or at bedtime got shorter and shorter. Now we've been doing the process at home, he goes down within five minutes with no crying at all. And he sleeps much longer during the day. Used to always wake and cry after one sleep cycle. Now he usually sleeps 90 minutes to 2 hours at a time in the day.

Other things we learned included a better overall schedule, removing sleep associations, improved eating (solids) and how to drop the 3am feed. We are still working on that last one; as I write this it's 3:03am and my son just went quiet after a 10 minute cry. He still wants to be fed at this time, out of habit, but as I work full-time and am a single mum, I can't get up more than once a night (the dream feed at 11pm) without serious exhaustion setting in. If I can get him to stop waking and crying at this time each night, my life will be so much easier. Haven't mastered it quite yet but we are making progress.

So go to Tresillian, whatever date you can get! It's hard work and quite intense at first, but SO worth it.

Good luck with everything!

[fludo]

Does anyone know if Tresillian uses the same techniques (including crying) for babies under 6 months?

[trin_007]

Fludo, you may have trouble finding a 'Tresillian' centre in Brisbane. 3 years ago when I went in for residential care it was called "Riverton", but I know they were closing this down and moving (I think) onto one of the hospital sites. Check out the information in the back of bubs personal health record and find the "Child Health Information" 24 hour number.

I went to Riverton twice with DS - once at 5 weeks (for breastfeeding issues) and again at 5 months to help with sleep issues.

The techniques do vary depending on the age of the baby and the expectations of the mother. The thing is, if you have a problem, and you have the chance to go - GO!!!! There are so many things you will learn while you are there, not just about the problem you were referred for, but so many general tips and advice - its fantastic. The nurses are great and it is mostly one on one support (when I went, there were 2 nurses per mum/bub) and the same nurse generally worked with you all week.

I still call the CHI number whenever I have an issue I can't get past on my own and it never ceases to amaze me some of the solutions they come up. When you think youre doing everything right, but nothing still works, just give them a call........

[CrankyAndTired]

BUMP!!!!

I've been booked into Tresillian @ Canterbury in a few weeeks and would love to hear about othert ppl's experiences...

We have a 3mth old with reflux, cow &soy protein allergies, feeding and settling problems...

[Cilla Bean]

Hi everyone,
I went to Tresillian 3 weeks ago. It didnt really help my DS who has just turned 5 months. He would only ever sleep 40 mins during the day and wake 3-6 times a night. I would also have to rock him to sleep in my arms. What they teach you and show you is good, but my baby would not resettle after the 40 mins (during the day) They dont do control crying for babies under 6 months... its more of listening to their cry and comforting them if they get too worked up and destressed. But also giving them a chance to fall asleep on there own. (if that makes scence)

Since comming home ive control cryed him and now he'll cry for 5-10 in his cot before going to sleep but still wont sleep longer than 40 mins.!! Ive even left him in there for 1 1/2 hrs with him screaming the house down (i go in every so often) and he still would not go back to sleep!! Ive decided to accept the fact that i have a baby that doesnt like to seep much and accept that he's never going to sleep longer than 40 mins and hes never going to sleep right through the night. (He's still waking 3-6 times)

My advice is to definatly go, your baby might respong really well and improve. They say 9 out of 10 babies improve and sleep longer. I guess i was the unlucky one.

Good luck, hope it all works out and your baby isnt as determined to not sleep as mine :hugs:

[CrankyAndTired]

Cilla Bean... :hugs: Sorry to hear it didn't help you and your little one...

Yet even though it didn't help you, you still recommend it? Are the nurses nice? Do they make you listen to the bubbas cry for long?

My bubba is only 3mths and I really struggle when he's distressed (happens a lot when he's overtired).

Rome sleeps for 3-4hr blocks during the night but barely naps for 30 mins during the day... Today he's had a total of one hours sleep in the last 8 hrs.. He's also never slept in his cot, because of his reflux he sleeps in a little chair or hammock..

We're really hoping it helps us.. :fingerscrossed:

[CrankyAndTired]

BUMP AGAIN!!!

Anyone else been to Tresillian??

[Cilla Bean]

Hi Livly,
Yes i would still recommend to go to Tresillian, as i said they say most babies leave there with a huge improvement. Some babies that go there have never ever slepted in there cot before and they leave there sleeping in their cot and going to sleep on their own. The nurses are brilliant, they are all lovley and are happy to answer any questions you might have. I spent most of my time talking to them. No they dont make you listen to them cry that much, if you dont feel comfortable with doing anything they suggest then you dont have to. They are not strict in any way. They are there to help you (and your baby)Which one are you going to? I went to the one at Willoughby. When are you going? is there a long wait? Is your bub on medication for the feflux?
I told them at tresillian that i didnt believe they would get him to sleep more. I am dissapointed that it didnt do much for me and my bub, but its not their fault, i just have a very determind baby. He turned 5 months last week so i started him on farax at night and he's sleeping a lot better. Waking 1-3 times now instead of 3-6 times. So im guessing maybe he wasnt full enough...

You have nothing to loose if you go :)