Meaning of 'PRO'

[GiftofLife]

I read in another thread, that one member thought that to be 'pro circumcision' is to believe that ALL male babies should be circumcised.

I guess if that is the case than I am not 'pro circumcision'. I do post in the pro section, as I have had my children done and I feel like I may have advice and experience to offer to others who are considering the procedure.

I certainly do not think that circumcision is for everyone's children, nor am I against people who choose to forgo the procedure. Whereas, I get the distinct impression that those in the 'anti camp' are not only against the procedure, but also against those who get it done.

I have seen it referred to as abuse and this honestly baffles me. How can someone make such a judgment on me? Due to one thing I have decided to do? I adore my children, I would NEVER abuse them in any way, shape or form!!

So what do you think 'PRO' means?? And what is your take on 'Anti'?

[xkwzit]

I'm not going to remove it from the post above (because the comment can be applied to many places and not just the hub), but normally, we modify posts where words such as abuse is used in connection with RIC.

If you ever see it in a thread, it means that the mods haven't yet edited it (or we missed it while reading through). In any case, if you see it (or any other word that you think is harsh and judgemental), report the post.

Sorry to hijack (but I thought it was important to say). As you were.

[OJandMe]

I'm same as you.

It was the choice my family made. But that was for MY family.

Each family to their own. I don't think it's anyone's business really.


Abuse is not circumcising... abuse is leaving your children to starve, or tying them up with ropes, burning them with cigarettes, sexually exploiting them, beating them, breaking bones, smashing their heads into walls, feeding them posions...

[Benji]

I guess it's like abortion - no one is really "pro" abortion, they are pro choice. Maybe that is relevant to circumcision, too (sorry, I'm not saying that the two are remotely similar - just an analogy).

I am against having my own DS circ'd, but I wouldn't say that I'm "anti" circ. Actually I'm not really anti- much at all if it's not relevant to my own family (of course, unless it's illegal or very harmful to children).

[sam's mum]

my understanding of pro circ is someone who believes in routine circumcision.

[ComeBackKid]

and I bet the little boy wasn't circed.... coz I don't think the parents would have even cared enough to give the topic any amount of thought what-so-ever.


Good point.

I dont post in these threads because I dont really swing one way or another. I didnt get my son done but dont have an opinion on others that dont or do, i just didnt. I dont think it can be called abuse, even if it does have disadvantages or others disagree with it. I have never come across a thread on BH that would warrant calling circing abuse, no one has ever said i have circed because i wanted to inflict pain on my son. Most people circ to avoid pain for their son. (no debate needed, just saying what a lot of pro-circ people often argue).

From what I have read, i take pro-circ to mean the people that are for circumcising their own children but are not saying that every single boy should be circed. I think "pro-circ"s are good at leaving the decision for each parent to make for their own child..as it should be.

On the other hand, IMO, most (not all) anti-circs dont circumcise their children and dont want any boys to be circed.

Just my observations.

[GiftofLife]

I guess it's like abortion - no one is really "pro" abortion, they are pro choice. Maybe that is relevant to circumcision, too (sorry, I'm not saying that the two are remotely similar - just an analogy).



I think this is a perfect analogy, I am definitely not 'pro' circ, I am just pro-choice. I am pro-choice when it comes to pretty much everything though. I guess, I just feel really strongly about the right of the individual to choose. Although that could be argued, as I have often seen, that it wasn't my sons who got to choose, and it's their penis. My reply to that, is that I also see circumcision as I see any other parenting choice, up to the parent.

[GiftofLife]

Good point.


From what I have read, i take pro-circ to mean the people that are for circumcising their own children but are not saying that every single boy should be circed. I think "pro-circ"s are good at leaving the decision for each parent to make for their own child..as it should be.

On the other hand, IMO, most (not all) anti-circs dont circumcise their children and dont want any boys to be circed.

Just my observations.

We must have the same glasses on :laughing: as that's pretty much what I have observed, and it's not just on the BubHub, it's everywhere.

[Fuchsia!]

for me PRO circ is someone who believes in the procedure, and ANTI is someone that does not agree with the procedure.

I am ANTI. I doubt i will ever be PRO.

[punkbaby]

for me PRO circ is someone who believes in the procedure, and ANTI is someone that does not agree with the procedure.

I am ANTI. I doubt i will ever be PRO.
:iagree: what you said :yes:

[GiftofLife]

for me PRO circ is someone who believes in the procedure, and ANTI is someone that does not agree with the procedure.



This is a fairly ambiguous statement. Obviously 'pro' people believe in the procedure and 'anti' do not. I am asking if you do, or do not agree/believe in something, do you only not believe in it for yourself, or do you not believe in it for everyone.

I hope that makes sense.

[OJandMe]

Good point.

I dont post in these threads because I dont really swing one way or another. I didnt get my son done but dont have an opinion on others that dont or do, i just didnt. I dont think it can be called abuse, even if it does have disadvantages or others disagree with it. I have never come across a thread on BH that would warrant calling circing abuse, no one has ever said i have circed because i wanted to inflict pain on my son. Most people circ to avoid pain for their son. (no debate needed, just saying what a lot of pro-circ people often argue).

From what I have read, i take pro-circ to mean the people that are for circumcising their own children but are not saying that every single boy should be circed. I think "pro-circ"s are good at leaving the decision for each parent to make for their own child..as it should be.

On the other hand, IMO, most (not all) anti-circs dont circumcise their children and dont want any boys to be circed.

Just my observations.

Well written!!!!:iagree:

[SalTheGal]

I think this is a perfect analogy, I am definitely not 'pro' circ, I am just pro-choice. I am pro-choice when it comes to pretty much everything though. I guess, I just feel really strongly about the right of the individual to choose. Although that could be argued, as I have often seen, that it wasn't my sons who got to choose, and it's their penis. My reply to that, is that I also see circumcision as I see any other parenting choice, up to the parent.

:iagree: I am not in any way advocating that every parent should get their son circ'ed far far from it.

I did however choose to get my son circ'ed and will support anyone else who makes that choice for their own child too.

I am "pro-choice", as I am with almost every facet of parenting...there are lots of things I have an opinion on, or a choice I would make but i do not condemn another parent for making a choice that differs from mine.

Unfortunetely I often feel condemned for my choice to circ my son by those who are against the procedure. :rain:

[Fuchsia!]

This is a fairly ambiguous statement. Obviously 'pro' people believe in the procedure and 'anti' do not. I am asking if you do, or do not agree/believe in something, do you only not believe in it for yourself, or do you not believe in it for everyone.

I hope that makes sense.

Um personally for me i would say that anti is "no it shouldn't be done at all" Not to any child.

And pro- i would say that you would believe its ok and that people should be allowed to do it.

Lol, i hope i made sense now!!

[GiftofLife]

Um personally for me i would say that anti is "no it shouldn't be done at all" Not to any child.

And pro- i would say that you would believe its ok and that people should be allowed to do it.

Lol, i hope i made sense now!!

Yup, that makes more sense. Thanks for that :)

[misskittyfantastico]

I would say I am anti RIC - Circ is something I don't believe should be done, except for when there is a medical necessity. We as parents have the right to choose NOT to circumcise our son. So I feel I must respect a parent decison TOO circumcise. I don't agree with it, but I respect it.

[AliyahBlake]

From what I have read, i take pro-circ to mean the people that are for circumcising their own children but are not saying that every single boy should be circed. I think "pro-circ"s are good at leaving the decision for each parent to make for their own child..as it should be.

On the other hand, IMO, most (not all) anti-circs dont circumcise their children and dont want any boys to be circed.

:iagree:

I have also seen anti-circers liken circumcision to abuse which I find highly insulting.

I am more pro-choice - I have had my DS done, but it's no skin off my nose if someone chooses not to circ their son. Each to their own I say!

[WorkingClassMum]

I would say I am anti RIC - Circ is something I don't believe should be done, except for when there is a medical necessity. We as parents have the right to choose NOT to circumcise our son. So I feel I must respect a parent decison TOO circumcise. I don't agree with it, but I respect it.

:iagree::yelclap:

[gizmoduckus]

I would say I am anti RIC - Circ is something I don't believe should be done, except for when there is a medical necessity. We as parents have the right to choose NOT to circumcise our son. So I feel I must respect a parent decison TOO circumcise. I don't agree with it, but I respect it.

:iagree:

[twotrunks]

It was my understanding (until now perhaps) that Pro-Circ meant pro-routine circumcision, and anti meant anti-routine circumcision. Although i am anti-routine circumcision, there will always be (in my mind) cases where medically-required circ is a necessary procedure. Having read many opinions in the Anti section, I think most people agreed there would always be cases where circ could be justified. So please don't assume that everyone who is Anti is against it in every case. Just as I'm sure everyone who is Pro would not think it to be appropriate for every single child.
TT

[Mamalicious]

I don't know that I'm either really.

Our kids are circumcised because it's what we do, it's right for us, but tbh I don't actually care whether or not someone else circumcises their kids, it's not my problem, and I expect the same courtesy from other people, whether or not they agree with what I do.