benefits of circumcision

[ringneck]

thought i would start a thread where everyone who has researched can put down what they have found to be the benefits of circumcision.

The benefits vastly outweigh risks. The enormous public health benefits include protection from urinary tract infections, sexually transmitted HIV, HPV, syphilis and chancroid, penile and prostate cancer, phimosis, thrush, and inflammatory dermatoses. In women circumcision of the male partner provides substantial protection from cervical cancer and chlamydia. Circumcision has socio-sexual benefits and reduces sexual problems with age. It has no adverse effect on penile sensitivity, function, or sensation during sexual arousal. Most women prefer the circumcised penis for appearance, hygiene and sex.
found here
http://www.circinfo.net/

[ringneck]

here is a link to a diagram and explanation of what is done exactly
http://www.circinfo.net/the_procedure_itself.html

[Mamalicious]

Sorry, I have nothing helpful to add...just...

Did you see the circumcised banana??? :laughing: That gave me a good giggle hehe

[punkbaby]

Sorry, I have nothing helpful to add...just...

Did you see the circumcised banana??? :laughing: That gave me a good giggle hehe


I am so glad i am not alone...it was quite funny

[GiftofLife]

thought i would start a thread where everyone who has researched can put down what they have found to be the benefits of circumcision.

The benefits vastly outweigh risks. The enormous public health benefits include protection from urinary tract infections, sexually transmitted HIV, HPV, syphilis and chancroid, penile and prostate cancer, phimosis, thrush, and inflammatory dermatoses. In women circumcision of the male partner provides substantial protection from cervical cancer and chlamydia. Circumcision has socio-sexual benefits and reduces sexual problems with age. It has no adverse effect on penile sensitivity, function, or sensation during sexual arousal. Most women prefer the circumcised penis for appearance, hygiene and sex.
found here
http://www.circinfo.net/

:iagree: With all of the above!! It is a FACT that research has shown all of these things to be correct. Circumcising, DOES prevent STD's including AIDS. It does this as the foreskin is extremely vulnerable to infection being that it is mucous lined skin, almost like the inside of the vagina. Which is why a woman is more likely to contract an STD, than she is to pass it on.

Circumcison prevents a male from contracting HPV, which is the most common cause of cervical cancer in women. Therefore a woman with a circumcised partner is less likely to develop cervical cancer.

[Mamalicious]

Circumcison prevents a male from contracting HPV, which is the most common cause of cervical cancer in women. Therefore a woman with a circumcised partner is less likely to develop cervical cancer.

:smiliedance: Thankyou DH!!!! :D :smiliedance:

[ringneck]

dont talk to me about HPV my ex was uncircumcised and a male s**t he gave HPV not the strain that causes warts either the strain that can lead to cervical cancer, i had to have 3 monthly pap smears for a year then 6 monthly till i got the all clear.
my DP is circumcised and has never had an STI
and just in my personal opinion circumcised penises look alot nicer.

Nah havent seen the circumcised banana :)

[Ange&Seth]

WOOHOO :smiliedance: Go the pro-circ thread!

[GiftofLife]

:smiliedance: Thankyou DH!!!! :D :smiliedance:


LOL I have no idea why, but that made me giggle. I think it's something to do with the little dancing guys being used in a sentence about penises :laughing:

[GiftofLife]

WOOHOO :smiliedance: Go the pro-circ thread!

It's about time me thinks :laughing: :raspberry:

[OJandMe]

later in life, when they are unable to care for themselves, they won't have the risk of penile infections that SSSOOO many uncirced seniors have in nursing homes because they are not cleaned properly, and can't do it themselves.

My MIL has been an aged care nurse for 45 years! And she said it's so hard and sad to see these old men in pain ALL THE TIME because they can't care for themselves, and don't understand that it's important to 'leave it alone' when it hurts...

And the over-worked, under-staffed nurses, especially the younger ones, aren't washing them properly.. coz they don't want to touch it.

[Mamalicious]

That's so sad OJ. :(

[delirium]

I'm glad this post was started. I've noticed there are always anti circ threads with the same things being said over and over - we as circers are rarily heard as we are attacked if we say anything about circ in a positive light. IMO there are lots of researched benefits to circing, I could of linked a million sources.

http://www.circumcisioninfo.com/index_home_new.html (research on STD's and AIDS)
http://www.medicirc.org/major_benefits.html#cervical (how circ helps prevent cirvical cancer, penile cancer and a list of other benefits)

Are there benefits from circumcision?

There are several:

1 Many older men, who have bladder or prostate gland problems, also develop difficulties with their foreskins due to their surgeon's handling, cleaning, and using instruments. Some of these patients will need circumcising. Afterwards it is often astonishing to find some who have never ever seen their glans (knob) exposed before!

2 Some older men develop cancer of the penis - about 1 in 1000 - fairly rare, but tragic if you or your son are in that small statistic. Infant circumcision gives almost 100% protection, and young adult circumcision also gives a large degree of protection.

3 Cancer of the cervix in women is due to the Human Papilloma Virus. It thrives under and on the foreskin from where it can be transmitted during intercourse. An article in the British Medical Journal in April 2002 suggested that at least 20% of cancer of the cervix would be avoided if all men were circumcised. Surely that alone makes it worth doing?

4 Protection against HIV and AIDS. Another British Medical Journal article in May 2000 suggested that circumcised men are 8 times less likely to contract the HIV virus. (It is very important here to say that the risk is still far too high and that condoms and safe sex must be used - this applies also to preventing cancer of the cervix in women who have several partners.)

A BBC television programme in November 2000 showed two Ugandan tribes across the valley from one another. One practised circumcision and had very little AIDS, whereas, it was common in the other tribe, who then also started circumcising. This programme showed how the infection thrived in the lining of the foreskin, making it much easier to pass on.

5 As with HIV, so some protection exists against other sexually transmitted infections. Accordingly, if a condom splits or comes off, there is some protection for the couple. However, the only safe sex is to stick to one partner or abstain.

6 Lots of men, and their partners, prefer the appearance of their penis after circumcision, It is odour-free, it feels cleaner, and they enjoy better sex. Awareness of a good body image is a very important factor in building self confidence.

7 Balanitis is an unpleasant, often recurring, inflammation of the glans. It is quite common and can be prevented by circumcision.

8 Urinary tract infections sometimes occur in babies and can be quite serious. Circumcision in infancy makes it 10 times less likely.

http://www.circinfo.com/benefits/bmc.html

[Mamalicious]

That's some really interesting info delirium, thanks!!!

Real info on it, without being treated like a criminal! Or being sent to sites that only speak about the risks!!!

I luff this thread. :yes:

[scorpiomumof2]

i find this very interesting. i have 2 sons, who i never had circumcised. my ex and my father and my 4 brothers weren't circumcised, so i didn't know anything else really. (i never saw them naked, mum told me!) my sister had cervical cancer removed recently, so its interesting to read that hpv 'breeds' under the foreskin of the man. i have a new partner who is 'cut', and although we aren't having children together yet, the future argument is possibly there if we do have a son together. do i circumcise a future son (if we have one) even though the 2 i have already aren't? there are good arguments for both sides!

[andrewJ]

just as an example of how ridiculous the claims from these sites are;

"Infant circumcision gives almost 100% protection, [from penile cancer]"


the american cancer society says that "The consensus among studies that have taken these other factors into account is that circumcision is not of value in preventing cancer of the penis. It is important that the issue of circumcision not distract the public's attention from avoiding known penile cancer risk factors -- having unprotected sexual relations with multiple partners (increasing the likelihood of human papillomavirus infection) and cigarette smoking."


not only is there claim wrong, it is dangerous

[dillydAlly]

wow it is nice to see somewhere to share pro circ opinions. :yelclap:

I have always decided that I will have my chn circumsized. Growing up in a household full of males it was very hard to watch my teenage brother get a REALLY bad infection because of his foreskin. (i am not professing to have clinical knowledge). He obviously didn't clean it properly and he had to be circ at 15.... This was terribly painful for him and I remember the pain her went through. I remember my mum saying "i wish i'd taught him to look after it better"... Not that this is my only deciding factor but I also have had bf's circ and uncirc and I prefer circ!!!!! My DF and I have already decided that we will be circumsizing our little boy if we have one.!!!!

I also like that there are other women who share my thoughts. It always makes me feel somewhat guilty when I see so many (slightly offensive) ANTI circ threads...

Each to their own I say.....

Ally

[3kiddies]

My husband works in a hospital in Qld and in the last week there have been 2x 10yr old boys who have come in to be circ'ed. It is a common surgery in boys around that age.

I circ'ed my two boys and am very happy with that decision.

[mummasbubbas]

Hi girls,

I am pregnant with a little boy and my husband and I have always said that we will get any son we have cir'cd.

However, now that I am pregnant with a little boy, I haven't had any positiveness from anyone including Qld Health (when I asked for advice or literature) on this subject.

My husband is circumcised and we just thought that we would get him done also.

After speaking to the Qld Health lady and anyone that I thought I could mention it to without getting called '********' or 'you didn't circumcise your daughters' yelled at me I thought maybe we shouldn't get it done.

It is almost like, if I mention to people now that we aren't going to get him done, everyone smiles at me and says, no there isn't any need and you can teach him to clean properly etc. I feel a little like we have caved in to popular demand.

I write this as today I was talking to my neighbour and she mentioned that her son is done and that her husband isn't. She is probably the first person that I have come across that hasn't been rude or looked at me funny for even suggesting that we do it.

So thankyou girls for starting this thread, it makes me want to change our minds again as I feel that I have something positive to read.

Also, I noticed that alot of you ladies had your sons done when they were 4wks old. The dr that we were thinking of going with only does them at 10days old. Is this too young and also I think he uses a local anethestic. He also using the plasti bell procedure. Can anyone shed any light.

[Ange&Seth]

. Is this too young and also I think he uses a local anethestic. He also using the plasti bell procedure. Can anyone shed any light.

I personally think the younger bub is, the better. Years ago, bubs were circ'd before they even left hospital.

[delirium]

Yep, I agree the younger the better. Our family dr won't do it past 2 months without a GA which is worse for the child. The plastibell is considered the safest method as there is no stitches, so no bleeding or issues with infection. When we had our boy done he was given a numbing cream so he couldn't feel the local, then had the local injection a few minutes later.

As far as bowing to pressure, you need to do what you and your DH think is right. Most boys I know are circed, so we never got any negative comments, and even if we did, it would of made no difference. But if you don't get him done, you won't get judgement from us here ;)

[mummasbubbas]

Thanks girls. I spoke again to my neighbour and it is again such a relief to speak about such a subject that causes so much controversy (sp?).

Can I ask you ladies, not sure if this is the right thread, but what was the main reasons behind getting it done.

For eg, was it 'the hygiene issues, or the health issues or my husbands done'. That is if you don't mind answering it.

[AliyahBlake]

I have a couple of reasons for getting my DS circed.
The first is that my DH is circed, so he wanted DS to look like him.
The second is for hygiene reasons and aesthetics - I just think it looks nicer and much easier for him to keep clean as he gets older.
The third reason is that I didn't want complications when he gets older (ie infections etc) - I am a nurse, and I have looked after many kids from 5 years old up to about 16 or 17 years having circs done due to infection or some other reason, and not only is it more traumatic for them when they are that age, but I've seen so many complications from the surgery, such as bleeding, swelling and infection (basically because the older they get, they can't leave their willy alone!), and the pain bothers them much more. I have looked after some boys who have had a circ done at around 5 years of age and they are so upset after surgery because they think their penis has been chopped off! I just didn't want my DS to go through that!

[delirium]

Can I ask you ladies, not sure if this is the right thread, but what was the main reasons behind getting it done.


See my post #13. Many, but not all of the benefits listed there are the reasons we made a decision to circ.

[MummyGoingMad]

for me it was for religious reasons but having had bfs both circ and uncirc i definitely prefer circ!!! so much cleaner and nicer :)

dont be put off by the ppl u dealt with at qld health, they shouldnt impose their oen views on u in a nasty unprofessional way as every1 has a right to decide for themselves.

im very happy with getting ds circ... and even though i didnt do it for health reasons, it came to the forefront of my attention when my girlfriends young son recently got a UTI....