Oct 05 Mummy's Group #9

[bingo]

I'm just waiting for Maddi to wake up, I've left her asleep in the car. We've just come back from her review at the GP. He said she is most definitely sensitive to the steroids and it fully explains her behavior. He said even he could see the difference in her. It happens in some cases with the predmix, even with the steroids that are in some asthma inhalers. He felt that she is well enough to take off the medication and it will take about 2 days to wear off. Thank Goodness! I can't wait to have a normal child back. He did say that at least now I know that Maddi was a good child and now I have something to compare too. She's still wheezy in her right lung and has a very husky voice, but that could last for up to 2 weeks :rolleyes:.

Anna, so good to hear from you. I laughed so hard at those photo's of Immy. She's still cute even when she is naughty. I can imagine how P.O'd you were with her though. Talk about testing the boundaries. When you book your trip in July I'm away at the snow in the last week of that month. How funny that everyone wants to steal you away while your in Melbourne. Its lovely to make so many friends on good old BH!
Ange I can hear the clucking from here :D. How cute that Seth wants a brother and sister. Maddi has been asking both Tony and I where hers is, I've even got it on video. Its hilarious. I'm sure Maddi would cope with a sibling but like you I dunno how I would!
Tania, thats great that you talked things over with Troy. He's a gem! I love that he knows what to do with a newborn. Tony used to just throw his hands up in the air and proclaim ignorance and get more stressed out than me. Not much help!
Alright better go check on sleeping beauty. Keep your fingers, arms and legs crossed that the steroids wear out quick.

[hayleylea]

OK OK has anyone seen Cooper????? Im serious?? has anyone seen him?? Because he is missing and someone else is here that looks like and talks like him (welll most of the time anyway this one has more attitude lol) and replaced me with a devil Cooper!!!!! Well that was him thsi morning - I had the daunting tast of moving rooms in the hotel. We could only have the family one for 3 nights. So i had to move all our stuff by myself while trents at work. Yep ALL our stuff with the 2 kids by myself including the portacot etc etc. Anyway The day started GREAT. Cooper and Shelley slept well all night, woke up happy. Shelley was asleep so Cooper and I started moving our stuff. We walked back and forth carrying things and Cooper did such a good job it was a pretty long distance to go back and forth especially carrying the weight he was. So Anyway after about the 20th trip (well seemed like that anyway!) He was tired and asked if he could stay in the new room. I didnt see how it could do any harm because i only had one more back to get and Shelley so i said ok. Locked the door so he couldnt get out. Was gone for a minute no longer and come back and he had got a permanant marker out of Trents tool bag and drew on the bed sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG i was so mad. ...yet he was so proud of his drawing :rolleyes: Ok so i must admit im having a giggle now because the look on his face was priceless and he really thought he had done a good picture. He got sat in teh naughty corner and i tried to scrub it off to no avail. So Im goign to go tell the lady and see what she says. I had a cry, he had a cry and then he said i want to go home mum and at that point i said so do i!!! We are having a great time it just got to us lol. Anyway we wiped our tears away and had a chat about how he did a very naughty thing and then decided to leave our shoe box of a room and get fresh air. So off we trotted to the park and fed the ducks and my devil child must have flew away because i got back this perfect little Cooper! He played on the play equipment at the park and had such a great time. Came back to the hotel and he said sleep mummy and lied on the bed and fell asleep and he has been there for an hour. I really really really really really really really hope that this Cooper stays around to have dinner at Anges tonight!!!

Anyway both kids are snoozing and im going to have a relax myself!

[Ange&Seth]

Ok so the groceries are done and half put away :rolleyes: Told you the motivation was lacking today! Almost fell over when I saw the total though - $180 :eek: I didn't think I had that much in the trolley!!!! Although it is for a fortnight so it's less than $100 a week which really isn't too bad.

As for the housework, I've got most of it done. Just need to finish the dishes and mop the floors, wipe the bench over in the bathroom and then clean the toilet. Should really be doing that instead of sitting here :o

Tan - that's great that Troy listens to you when you're down. Adam does too and it makes it all so much better.

Seth did a poo last night too after he was in his nappy. He normally does them in the mornings so I didn't expect it. I was walking past his room to go to bed and he was still up at his gate talking to me and I smelled it. 'Did you do a poo?' 'yes mummy' lol why he didn't tell me I have no idea!! Luckily I had another nappy dry and ready to put on his bum!

Lou - it's good that you've found out that it's the steroids making Maddi a bit mental. Will be a relief for you when she's back to normal again.

Hayles - I think I have Cooper with me :D He likes me so much he came home with me yesterday LOL!!

I can't believe he's drawn all over the room though - what a little monkey!! He'll be fine though - Seth did this sort of stuff too when we went to Tassie for the week. Anna can attest to what a little horror he was while we were there. I was beside myself with his behaviour and SO embarrassed! I thought I must have left Seth at Tullamarine cos the clone I had was NOT my son!! He came out of it though and I'm sure Coops will too.

Anyway, I need to go finish tidying my pigsty of a house up. Have a lovely evening everyone!

[MrsMiggins]

Hi all! Just popping in with a quick hello! I'm going to try & catch up tonight! :wave:

[Wivi]

Isn't it always the way? After being the absolute devil child yesterday levi has been a dream baby today! I am sure Troy secretly thinks I made it all up yesterday! Levi has just ate and slept for most of the day - hopefully not too much sleeping though, we definitely don't want a wide awake baby at 3am or something!

Oh dear Hayles about the texta! I chatted to you on MSN about it already but I am sure the motel will be very understanding. If you ask me they should have helped you move your stuff! I would have expected them to actually but I think I am a bit pushy like that. Will has also done his fair share of mucking up when we have been away too - I think the fact that Cooper asked for a sleep today is a pretty good indication that the last few exciting days just might have caught up with him!

Lou - see, you knew Maddi wasn't right! I am so glad your GP gave you some reassurance with that one. I hope Maddi improves very quickly. I think kids can react to any sort of medication so I am not surprised that Maddi went a bit funny with a steroid. My cousin gave her kid (who never, ever slept) Phenergan once (this was about 16 years ago ) in a desperate effort to get some sleep and he proceeded to be awake for the next 36 hours! (I am not kidding - he did not close his eyes that entire time).

Ange - you had a productive day anyway by the sounds of it. I don't think I ever get that much done in one day. I didn't get that much done before I had a second baby so don't go thinking that's the cause! What does Seth do while you mop the floors? I always find that one tricky. Will's pretty good but he does forget sometimes.

OK - I had better go, it's almost dinner time.

Hope you are all well.

[cath]

It has been busy in here! I had one of those crazy days with Paddy so tired by 3:30 this afternoon that he just couldn't stop crying. I had to put the boys in the pram and go for a walk at 4 to break the crying (which still continued for a bit) and he nodded off in the pram. It drives me nuts that he just will not have a sleep during the day anymore even if he is totally exhausted like today. I can not get him to even lie down anywhere. He point blank refuses to lie on the couch or anything.

Anna I am so excited you are coming to Melbourne :smiliedance: Lou I really hope you are able to come to Melbourne the same weekend - how cool will it be to meet up - can't wait!

Tan that is great to hear the new formula is working and Levi had a good day. Gives you hope when they have a good day - if they can do it once they can do it again. How are those ants -aren't they bloody annoying!

:wave: Hi Fi. We've missed you - how are things in your world?

Ange I hope your Tupperware party is going well - what a full on day and night for you. Is Hayley staying for the Tupperware party? You have done bloody well getting a fortnight's groceries for $180. It is always so scary getting that huge total at the end though isn't it. I spread my fotnightly shop between Aldi,Coles, the local market and a meat wholesaler and we still manage to spend a good $350 a fortnight on groceries/meat/fruit and vegies - so much money! How gorgeous about Seth wanting a baby and being so cute with Shelley. I'm sure you would cope just fine (you too Lou!).

Hayley I agree with Tan that the people from the motel should have helped you move - what a full on thing to do! How quick is that for Cooper to draw on the sheet while you were gone -cheeky boy! Oh well -could have been worse. Good to hear you went out and had a nice time after that.

Lou that totally makes sense when I think about it with Maddi acting funny on the steroid medication (I didn't really "click" before). I had to take it to clear up the pregnancy rash I had in my pregnancy with Paddy and just after I had Will and my Mum often has to take steroid medication for her asthma and both Mum and I experience insomnia and some kind of weird mania where it feels like your heart is going really fast and you are a bit "wired" on it. Sounds a bit like Maddi was a bit "manic" too. The poor little thing. She sounds quite unwell. I hope you are all doing okay.

Anna great effort with your post! How gorgeous about Alex starting with the mum-mum-mum on Mother's Day and having curls! I am just loving Will's mum-mum-mum. He says it most of the day and I love it! Love the photo's of Immy. How annoying at the time but how funny afterwards -she looks like a determined little thing. She sounds beautiful with helping you do things and loving her siblings. Good to hear Chelsea and Nicola are doing well so far with keeping their room tidy - I hope it continues for you. Best of luck with the weight loss - the whole thing is such a pain. You must be exhausted with Shane being away so much and looking after the kids on your own. Your break in Melbourne is well deserved. As for the baby issue -it sound to me like you really are not finished and I could see you with 5 children no worries. So Shane's main concern is his lack of tolerance in the first 9 months or so - is that right? As well all know that time totally flies by (can you believe our babies are almost 11 months!). Have you had any further discussions? Good luck with it all - it must be a hard one.

Okay I think I have caught up for now. Chat again soon.

[Moorish]

I'm back! *surprise surprise!* :D

Ange I hear you with the lack of motivation. I don't mind doing the grocery shopping - sadly I'll take all the time out I can get - but when it comes to unpacking and putting it away, my enthusiasm definately goes out the window!! By the way, we spend around $350+ for a fortnightly shop easy, and that doesn't always include much meat - I tend to buy in bulk when there's heaps of stuff on sale so I can fill my deep freezer.
Hope you're enjoying your tupperware party right now and have had another lovely day with Hayles and the kiddies!
Good on you for getting your butt back here by the way, I know I nagged but it eventually worked!
I'm impressed at your sewing efforts too, I can sew a bit as well, however lately the majority of my tasks involve hemming trousers and minor repairs :rolleyes: . . . thrilling. Plus I don't have a machine of my own, I've borrowed my friends one and it's GREAT! One more item to put on the Christmas/birthday list! lol!
Oh and LMAO at Seth's "smack ya bum" comments! I'd have found it extremely hard to keep a straight face, and probably would have cracked!
Oh and forget about Seth's issues when you were in Tassie - I knew it wasn't the Seth that we'd all heard about and you got to the bottom of the issue in the end!

Tan I'm very envious that Will succums to your reverse psycholoy when you walk away! None of my kids have ever given two hoots and called my bluff every time! I'm glad Immy gave you a chuckle though, in hindsite yes it was funny, but at the time Shane was away and it had already been a very stressful week. I don't know what inspired me to take the photos - I guess something in my deep sub-conscious decided that one day I'd look back and laugh!
I'm glad you and Troy had a good chat last night and by the sounds of it he's being a bit more supportive today. Good pick up with the silent reflux/banana pillow! Alex was a happy chucker for about 6 months then one day it just stopped. We chocked the head of his cradle up with a couple of phone books so he slept on a slight angle which made the world of difference! Also, we let our kids nap in their rockers quite a bit when they were little (are you surprised?!) and would just pick up the rocker, baby and all, and move it to a quiet room if the kids were going to be noisy. Otherwise we just closed the hood and baby slept away!
WONDERFUL effort from Levi overnight by the way! I'm sure a couple of nights like that and you'll feel like a new woman!


Lou you are CERTAINLY earning your trip away to the snow in a few weeks time! Oh my word! Poor little Maddi and poor tired, stressed mummy and daddy! A good friend of mine's 3yo daughter has had a bout of infection/asthma problems and has been on inhalers, nebs and predmix for a while now - she too had a severe reaction to it which made her completely hyper to the point where she wouldn't/couldn't sleep and would constantly wake through the night. The parents had to time the medications just right so it wasn't too close to bed time, but not too early in the day either. She's been off it for a little while now and the difference is remarkable. I hope your devil child awoke with an angelic hue!


Cath I decided that I just couldn't keep it a secret from the mods and I've *hinted* that there'll be an interstate guest visiting! I can't believe what a spur-of-the-moment decision it was to book! I'm so glad I did for those dates because everything surround it was way more expensive on all the airlines.
*Just to fill everyone else in - I joked with Shane yesterday that he should send me to Melb by myself for the weekend and he said go for it - so earlier today I booked tickets!! They were $59 and I'm only taking carry on but that's fine as it'll be heaps easier (I'll take a massive satchel with me for any shopping!) So anyway, Lou, Cath and I are planning to finally meet! YAAAAY!!!! :goodvibes:*
Oh I'm impressed with Will's mum-mum-mum by the way - it's FAR more common for dad-dad-dad to come first! Alex is so funny the way he says it, he looks like a little fish and it comes out more like mom-mom-mom! Lol!


Hayles omg why did they make you move all your gear by yourself?! And why did you have to move at all?!! You poor thing, that would have been SO HARD! I'd have been tempted to plonk the kids & as much gear as possible INTO the portacot and scoot it down to your new room! Lol! Sorry, I know it wasn't funny at the time but I'm in tears laughing at Cooper's little drawing on the bedsheets! I'd have been mortified as well! I wouldn't worry too much though, all you can do is apologise to the hotel - I'm sure they have allowances for accidents like this (well, maybe not like this but ykwim!!)

Renee - I'm so glad so hear that you (mostly) had a wonderful time on your holiday! It's such a pity things didn't end up well with your mum. I had hopes that she'd come around and all would be right, here's hoping that seeing you all again will give her something to think about :hugs:. Sounds like work is not too busy for you which I guess is a good thing - how long until you go on maternity leave? Oh how did Katelyn go at your last OB appointment? Was she excited at what she saw? I can understand your Dr's concerns about picking Katelyn up, it doesn't take much to strain a muscle/ligament or to put stress on something else. My suggestion would be that when Katelyn wants "up cuddles" you can get down to her level instead to give her one, or take her hand and walk to a chair or couch. If it happens when you're out and about then you'll just have to find something else to distract her! lol!

Fi - I just HAVE to know how your Tobi Steamer thingy is going! I dropped our newish iron the other day and unfortunately it didn't land on the carpet, so now the plate is slightly askew and it leaks a little each time I stand it up or lay it flat. I had a look at the website and the steamer looks to be a GREAT idea - so long as it works! My question for you is, can you still use it similar to an iron where you lay the clothing on the ironing board and just run the steamer over it? Only reason I ask is because we bought a new (huge) ironing board a couple of months ago and I don't want to waste it! Also, not all the clothes I iron fit on a hanger (think kids stuff) and really just need a 2 second press then fold and put away - so it would be heaps easier to use the ironing board. Shane and I would assume that you could because the steam (like an iron) would still be able to pass through the clothing and through the ironing board. Test it for me one day will you please?! ;) I just realised that I have some funds in my paypal account from some clothes I sold so I'm about 1/2 way ready to buy one!

Ok that'll have to do for now, I've been typing for ages trying to catch up (it just bugs me otherwise!) and I think I'll be able to sleep tonight! lol!
I'm loading some photos onto photobucket so I'll post some as soon as I can, they're taking forever, I should have reduced them first :rolleyes:.

Talk soon girls!
xoxo


ETA: Oh Tan! I've been meaning to ask you and I keep forgetting - are you planning on changing your username to include Levi? I've been struggling for nearly 11 months but I think I'm going to have to change mine completely, nothing seems to be working! lol!

[MrsMiggins]

Just a quick one (I know, I know! I am sorry guys!! I will catch up again properly soon, I promise!!! WORST-FRIEND-EVER!)

Anna & Lou, the Tobi Steamer is awesome for me. Basically I've been telling people (because when I say I have one, everyone always asks me about it!!) that if you really like everything to be perfectly pressed to within an inch of its life, then no, it probably won't replace your iron. BUT if you are happy with merely looking presentable & if like me, you leave clothes piled up in the basket for days on end before you iron them (or you don't wear things because they need to be ironed before you wear them) then it is perfect. We really have nowhere in the house to set up the iron & ironing board (especially with the kids running around :eek:) so we have had to make do with ironing things, squeezed into our tiny laundry. Hence things very rarely got ironed!! When I got my Tobi, I did 5 shirts that I've had sitting in a basket for months that never got worn because they were the kind of shirts that really did have to be ironed before the could be worn.

I love it, because now if something needs ironing, I just flick the steamer on & quickly give it a steam before I throw it on. The kids hover around watching (they are fascinated with it!) and there's no worries about them being around a hot iron, or worrying they will go near it while the iron cools down.

I never have to put the thing away, it just sits next to my bedside table.

Anna, you can do things lying flat, in fact I often find this easier than hanging things on the hook. Particularly doing the bottoms of shirts etc. I actually lie things on the bed & do them, but you could easily use an ironing board. You just have to make sure the tube that the steam travels up is extended upwards or it can get droplets of water happening, but even that is no big drama.

One of the big drawcards for me was actually that you can do your sheets & doona covers while they are on the bed!! I hate having really wrinkled doona covers! lol

OK, so this was meant to be a quick post, but I wanted to give you an accurate idea of what it was like. If there's anything else you want to know, just ask!!

[hayleylea]

Hi guys

Just a quick one from me before i pack up our stuff and head off.

Had dinner at Ange's last night and a tupperware party..it was good. The boys played with diggers int he dirt - Cooper finally broke out of his shell and played with seth. I was feeding Shelley and he wanted me to go outside with him but i said i couldnt and asked Seth to hold his hand and take him out and Cooper went with him YAY it was cute. Seth wanted to be "nice to the baby" again and had lots of Cuddles with Shelley. I got a photo of all 3 of the kids together which ill post when I get home. Angef is really good with Cooper and had him in fits of giggles again singing and playing with him. I was quite jealous of ange actually - having a few drinks i really wish i could have joined her! It will happen one day. Adam and Trent got along really well - Adam is a really nice guy and a good BBQ cook! ;) I must say Ange has to post a photo of the hippo play rug she made for Seth as a baby. OMG its Excellent!!!!!!! ID love one. Very professional looking! TOP JOB ANGE! We didnt get home till 11pm and cooper crashed not long after that and is still asleep. HE was so tired he had a mini night terror! i Got him calmed down though., I didnt end up getting Shelley down till after 12 sometime. Then she talked and carried on for ages after that - cheeky little bugger.
As it turns out the people are actually refurbishing the motel so the texta wasnt a big deal lol.
Waiting to see how Anges head is today...we havent got a photo of the 2 of us together or us and hte kids together = how slack is that! So hopefully we can do that today before we head home. Trent doesnt have to work today so thats a bonus. I promised Cooper i would take him to the animlas again so hopefully we will get to do that. He is such a animal lover. Cooper at Anges last night was so funny, They have a stray cat that comes over, And Cooper thought it was WONDERFULL. But he kepts saying "C'mon here big mousey" lol. He doesnt see Cats much and although he poitns them out in books he thought it was a BIG mouse. Pretty cute if you ask me lol. Shelley barely slept at Anges and had facination with my boob :o but as usual was well behaved.
hmm this was meant to be a short post huh?

Anyway both kids are waking up so i better head off.

Will do personals when i get more time at home

Talk soon...Have had a wonderfull time up here with Ange and Seth (and Adam) hopefully they have had a good time with us (and our shyness :laughing:)

bye

[bingo]

I cannot wait until this steroid stuff wears off my demon child. She is definitely not sleeping at night and her temper leaves a lot to be desired. My patience is wearing very, very thin. :crying:

Hayley, like the other girls said I can't believe the hotel people didn't give you a hand to move. I bet because you're so nice you didn't want to bother them and didn't ask? Your a super mummy thats for sure. At least Cooper only drew on the sheet and didn't decorate the walls and doona cover and stuff like that. I can imagine how stressful it was for you to walk in and see him doing that. Kids hey! Sounds like your having a blast with Ange and the family. I'm dead keen to see Ange's Hippo rug, c'mon Ange post a photo! I also can't wait to see photo's of the kids together.
Fi that Tobi steamer does sound good. But I'll leave it to Tony to make the decision as he's the boss when it comes to ironing. I just bought myself a GHD hair iron as my old one finally died. I deliberated for weeks about spending that much money on it and finally bit the bullet and did it. It should arrive any day now.
Anna, that medications side effects has just about driven me up the wall. At least now I know that Maddi's normal behavior is good and she's quite an angel compared to this drug induced demon child. She definitely isn't sleeping at night either. She is so overtired and her eyes all red from the lack of sleep. Tonight I'm going to give her some demazin to help clear her nose up and to help her sleep too. It just hasn't stopped running this whole time. The doctor said it could take up to 2 weeks for it to clear up :rolleyes:. I just thought of a new user name for you: "cinque favolosi" = fabulous five in italian?
Ange you sound like like you were super busy last night/yesterday getting everything ready for your party. Did you get a lot of sales and get some good hostess gifts? Seth sounds like such a gentle boy taking care of Cooper like that and wanting to cuddle Shelley. Very cute.
Tan, when Maddi was younger and had all that sleep trouble I went to the GP and just about cried with exhaustion. He prescribed us some phenergan to not only give Maddi some sleep but us too. Needless to say Maddi reacted the total opposite way and was up all night long. I tossed that bottle out! How's Levi going? Is he totally different now he's on the new formula?
Cath, I'm so excited about meeting up in Melbourne. Should be a great day. I just hope I'm around that weekend and can come down and join in the fun.
Alright better go and have a shower. I could just spend all day in my PJ's. We had plumbers around yesterday to fix a broken toilet bowl ( long story) and a leaky pipe and quote of getting gas to the house (OMG). SO its nice to have a day without people trudging in and out.

[Wivi]

Lou - I am so sorry to hear the steroids haven't worn off yet. I hope they do soon. I had to laugh at you wanting to enjoy your day without any tradespeople - for the past 6 months that has been my whole life! Yesterday it was tilers. No-one here today but tomorrow the builder will be back to put our front door back on - yes, all we have had this week is a screen and it's been very, very cold!

Anna - I have thought about changing my user name but haven't actually got around to it yet. Still thinking of one as well. Stay tuned - it will happen.

Fi - I'm resisting the temptation to go and look at the Tobi steamer on-line. I don't really know what it is but I don't want to find out cause I have a sneaking suspicion I would want one! We seriously don't do ironing here unless we absolutely have to!

Lou, Cath and Anna - I am very envious of the 3 of you catching up in Melbourne. Sounds like a great weekend is in store!

Hayley - you and Ange sounded like you had a lot of fun this week. LOL at Cooper and the cat. Your two families certainly got along well. So cute about Seth with Shelley - if Ange does have another one it'll be pretty funny I think.

Anna - my rocker doesn't have a hood otherwise I'd be tempted to let Levi sleep in it a lot. Will slept in it quite a bit when he was little. I meant to comment the other day that I don't think Alex sleeps - he hibernates! Are you sure he went to bed at 8pm and didn't get up til 2pm the next day? Are you sure Chelsea didn't secretly go in there and feed him, change his nappy and have a play before tucking him back into bed? Weren't you worried about him? LOL.

Well Levi isn't a different child on the new formula. He just poos a lot more regularly and they don't look like stones! :laughing: Last night for some reason he fell asleep while having his bottle at 6:00 and would only drink half so he only slept til 11 and then til 5. But he went back to sleep straight away both times so I guess we can't complain. He is also sleeping on the pillow again during the day. Anna - we raised the cot when we came home but that doesn't seem to have been enough. I feel a bit uncomfortable about using the pillow cause I know that it's a big SIDS no-no and also because I am a bit concerned about how he will sleep in other places. I keep telling myself that if it is a mild silent reflux then he will probably grow out of it by 3-4 months so we can get him sleeping normally after that.

OK - I need to go and get Will some lunch. Not that he thinks he needs lunch yet - he knows when he has lunch he goes to sleep afterwards.

[MrsMiggins]

I am a bad, bad friend!!! I always promise to catch up & then I don't do it!!!

I apologise for everything I miss (because I will definitely miss stuff here!!) but I have read all the posts!!

Anna, that is so cute that Alex said mum on mother's day!! I remember my first mother's day was the day Claire stopped saying it!! She had said it for a while up until that point & then all of a sudden decided to stop!! Little monkey!! I can't believe Alex is 11 months old!!! Where does the time go?!

Ange, how cute about Seth wanting another baby!!! So that's the green light then, huh?! :D Sounds like you & Hayles had a ball together! Great too that the kids hit it off.

Tan, that's great about your talk with Troy! So funny about Will setting the timer on the microwave and sending his toys to the naughty corner!! lol Claire has sent her toys to their room before & made them say sorry before they could come back out! While it's very cute, it kind of makes your heart break a little bit, doesn't it? That's great the new formula seems to be working for Levi & also that he has been sleeping better. I think Claire had silent reflux when she was a baby too. I didn't know it at the time, but whenever I hear people mention it now, it sounds soooooo familiar!! She was very, very spewy although it never really seemed to bother her much. But yes, we also had trouble laying her down flat. It was a nightmare for those first few months, because it took SUCH a long time to get her to go to sleep, and then you would try & lay her down & she'd just wake up again, screaming. But you are right, by about 3-4 months old, it was no longer an issue.

Lou, OMG about Maddi & the steroids!!! Good thing your GP was so good & straight onto it. It must be so stressful for you having to deal with that behaviour. Claire gets like that sometimes when she's tired (I'm sure to a lesser degree), so I feel for you having to put up with it being so intense & for such a long time!! I bet you can't wait to get the old Maddi back! Oh, you HAVE to post that video of Maddi asking for a baby brother or sister!!! How cute!!!!

Hayles, what a trip, hey?! I'm glad you had a great time doing stuff with Ange, but I'm sorry you had so many little stresses as well. Um-ah naughty Cooper drawing on the sheet!!! IKWYM about feeling a little bit sorry for them when they are so proud of their "artwork"! Claire has done that before too (not on a hotel sheet though!!) & you kind of feel a bit mean getting cranky at them, because they really don't understand why what they did was wrong. That's good they weren't too upset about the sheet. I could feel your stress over having to move rooms with two young kids. That is the kind of thing that would make me get very cranky!! I would probably be all huffy about it, thinking that they should have at least offered to help out!!

Oh Cath!!! You poor, poor thing with the crying!!! It must be so frustrating when Paddy needs a sleep but just won't!! I am lucky I have a good day sleeper in Claire, I think. I dread her giving up the day sleep!!

OK, I am going to post this before I do something stupid & lose it all!! (I freak out a bit when I finally write a big, long catching up post!!!) And then I'll come back & tell you all what's been happening with us.

[MrsMiggins]

First big news is that my gorgeous little Owen monster has been sleeping much better (although I hesitate to jinx it!!! :eek:) He has had 3 nights this week where he has slept right through til 9/9.30am and the nights he hasn't he has been waking around 5am, I feed him, put him back in his cot awake, he cries for about 10 seconds and then goes back to sleep. It has taken a big weight off my shoulders!! I can only hope he sticks it out - especially as we are going away for 4 days in a couple of weeks time & also as Dave & I have a wedding to go to on the 28th & the kids weren't invited. It's only local, thankfully, but I think it is going to be mighty tricky, as Owen has always, always been fed to sleep by me, so I'm not at all sure how he will go. The wedding is about half an hours drive away, so I might even have to come home just to put him to sleep & then go back. A pain, but if I have to do it, so be it.

In other news (:)) A few weeks back, I got one of those Everyday Rewards cards that Woolworths have just put out. I registered it, remembered to use it a couple of times, forgot all about it several times more... didn't really think anything more of it. Then the other day, Dave comes in with the mail & said there was a piece of registered mail for me. I opened it up & found out that I was the weekly winner of the $150 Wish Gift Card!!! Oh man, I cannot tell you how excited I was!!!! You can use it at BigW too, so I headed out yesterday & bought myself a pair of long black boots & a pair of black ballet flats & some new slippers. I was so pleased!!!

Anyway, I had better go get myself something to eat before the kids wake up.

Hope you are all having a lovely Friday!! Chat soon!

[cath]

Man I am so annoyed with Jetstar!! Just got an email informing me they have moved my flight to Brisbane from 12:15pm to 5:55pm. I was going to be there at 2:15 now I don't get in until 7:55 at night on the Saturday which is just all wrong. So ****ed off! I am happy to accept a change of an hour or so but they have totally changed my plans now. Not impressed! I've searched their terms and conditions and they can do it - spewing! I wanted to spend the afternoon with my friend and her little boys and then be able to have a few drinks with her that night. Now I am coming in at a bloody annoying time - not good.

Anyway Paddy is still a bit temperamental. I think as well as being tired he is also a bit unwell (bit of a temperature and no appetite and still collapsing into tears alot). Better go. Chat again soon.

I am off to see Sex and The City with a friend tonight -can't wait:smiliedance:

[bingo]

Derr, sorry Anna I can't count! You'd need to change that to the fabulous six. :o

[hayleylea]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR just wrote out a whole big post and i clicked a button and it dissapeared.

Oh well will write again tommorrow just letting you guys know im home safe and sound.

im off to bed im buggered.

Talk soon.

[MrsMiggins]

Man I am so annoyed with Jetstar!! Just got an email informing me they have moved my flight to Brisbane from 12:15pm to 5:55pm. I was going to be there at 2:15 now I don't get in until 7:55 at night on the Saturday which is just all wrong. So ****ed off! I am happy to accept a change of an hour or so but they have totally changed my plans now. Not impressed! I've searched their terms and conditions and they can do it - spewing! I wanted to spend the afternoon with my friend and her little boys and then be able to have a few drinks with her that night. Now I am coming in at a bloody annoying time - not good.

Anyway Paddy is still a bit temperamental. I think as well as being tired he is also a bit unwell (bit of a temperature and no appetite and still collapsing into tears alot). Better go. Chat again soon.

I am off to see Sex and The City with a friend tonight -can't wait:smiliedance:
Cath - apparently Jetstar do that all the time!! I was chatting to the mum of a friend of mine the other day & they changed not only the time of their flight but the day too!! AND they didn't even notify them!!! Their SIL rang to confirm their flights for them the day before, and was told the original flight had been cancelled. She demanded they call her IL's & tell them personally. Then they did it with their return flights as well!! I was astounded!!

I'd give them a call & tell them that flight time is not suitable for you & that you want them to arrange something more suitable. Might be worth a shot?

[Moorish]

Man I am so annoyed with Jetstar!! Just got an email informing me they have moved my flight to Brisbane from 12:15pm to 5:55pm. I was going to be there at 2:15 now I don't get in until 7:55 at night on the Saturday which is just all wrong. So ****ed off! I am happy to accept a change of an hour or so but they have totally changed my plans now. Not impressed! I've searched their terms and conditions and they can do it - spewing! I wanted to spend the afternoon with my friend and her little boys and then be able to have a few drinks with her that night. Now I am coming in at a bloody annoying time - not good.
Oh Cath that's TERRIBLE! Did you happen to purchase insurance at all? I debated while I was booking for Melb and decided not to as it was only a short flight and I'm only taking carry on. I hope they change it back for you!

Lou - it could be fab5 - if I had another baby! ;)

Hayles - glad to hear you're home safe, have a wonderful sleep.

Fi - I must know more about the Tobi! I have baskets left for weeks un-ironed but I'm pretty fussy with getting most of the wrinkles out. Hmm maybe you should post us a before and after of a couple of your worst wrinkled items of clothing so we can see for ourselves! I was thinking that they system would work better if the clothes were flat on the ironing board - let us know if you test that out!
Excellent job on your spending spree by the way - I'm in DESPERATE need of shoes, clothes, haircut, wax - pretty much everything, I'm a right mess at the moment.

Ok I'm off, I'm buggered and my neck is killing me (bloody computer chair).

Talk soon!
xoxo

P.S. Forgot to link THIS (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=182102) the other day ;)
P.P.S. Also forgot to mention that I won a family pass to see the premier of Kung-Fu Panda next Tuesday night! We're taking Chelsea & Nicola and leaving Immy & Alex with mum & John for a couple of hours. Looks hilarious! Can't wait!!

[bingo]

Ok I think I have uploaded the video of Maddi asking for a brother and sister? Let me know if it doesn't work. My first time!
brother and sister request (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/bro%20sis/?action=view&current=brotherandsister.flv)

[hayleylea]

Cath - how annoying about jetstar!! Id be cranky too. Hope Paddy is feeling better.

Fi - Thats great Owen has been sleeping well for you! Goodluck with the wedding in a few weeks.

Lou - LMAO!!!!!! That video is so funny and soooooooooooo cute. i think you better make her happy and giver her that brother or sister she is after ;):laughing:

Had a great night sleep last night. So did the kids. Cooper didnt get up till just now and shelley slept 9.5 hours straight put her back and she had been down for another2.5 hours and still there :smiliedance: Only thing is my back is killing me (probably from moving all my stuff lol) ah well ill survive.

Anyway i better go get some breakkie. Talk soon

[MrsMiggins]

LMAO Lou!!! That is so cute & funny!!!! I love how she puts her hand out at the end of it like you're going to hand over a brother & sister right there & then!! :laughing:

Claire watched it too & she said "Awwwwww!!!! She's cute!!!"

[Wivi]

:laughing: Lou! I think Maddi thinks you can just run down to the shop and buy one! That's classic!

Fi -well done on your win! I'm with Anna - I could go on a serious shopping spree at the moment! My clothes are all fashion of at least 5 years ago - but I promised I would not shop til I reached pre-baby weight. Still a few kilos to go and then there is the $$ issue. So glad Owen is sleeping better for you as well.

Cath - I cannot get over how slack Jetstar is! I have made a mental note not to fly with them in future! Although that's highly unlikely anyway given that we now have to pay for a seat for Will! I think our travelling days might be somewhat limited now with 2 kiddies to think about. :crying: I loved all our little trips away. Grrr - more car travel. I hope Paddy is feeling better. I can imagine how difficult is must be when you know full well a sleep would fix the dramas of the afternoon and Paddy just will not have one! I'd be having a serious meltdown!

Hayley - glad you made it home safe and sound and that the kids slept well for you. I guess Levi is doing pretty well with his sleeping - he went 8 hours without a feed again last night and he's not quite 6 weeks so that's pretty good. I always think Shelley is amazing but then I remember that she actually goes to bed a lot later (has her last feed later) and that puts it into perspective. It has been my decision to do it this way -I want a 7pm bedtime so I aim for it from the very beginning. I don't do "dream feeds" - but Will refused to do those anyway and now I can't work out how if you feed them at 10pm, when do you know to stop? So I just give Levi a bottle at 6 and let him sleep as long as he wants and then feed again and try to start the day around 7-8. It seems to work for us.

Anna - I had actually seen your thread about bubba #5 and I want to tell you that we have the reverse situation in our house! I am the one that doesn't like the newborn/little baby phase and would gladly have more toddlers. If fact I told Troy the other day that I think he should be the full-time newborn carer as he seems to have a much better idea than me! He has some serious work ahead of him if he wants bubba #3 cause right now I think I could leave it at 2. (I always wanted more but the newborn phase really puts me off. I hate hard work!) You can give me the baby back once a routine is established, they sleep just fine and can communicate a bit! :p Never mind that I don't know how my pelvic floor would go with another baby - Levi seems to have done some serious damage! I don't think I could have a bigger baby and I am pretty sure I would next time.


I really did have more to write - but I have to go and hang some washing out so I'll be back later!

[cath]

:laughing: Lou that is fantastic. I have just had to play that movie 10 times because Paddy heard her little voice and was by my side in a second asking who it was. I told him it was Maddi and then he just kept saying "again Maddi" every time it finished and everytime it played he got this funny little shy smile on his face and raised his eyebrows now and then -I think she has an admirer.

Tan if you ever do get to fly again I would definitely say avoid Jetstar - I certainly won't be flying with them again - not impressed. I've rung them this morning and have at least managed to swap to an 8am flight on the Saturday morning which is much better but I bloody well booked the 12:15 flight because that was the best time for us. I never expected them to just take it away as an option -WTF! Fi - I can't believe that story about your friend's mum's flight (well actually I can) -so dodgy. Anna I didn't take out the insurance - my thoughts at the time were that it was a local flight and should be simple enough and why would I need insurance - it never even entered my head they would totally change the flights. I hope they don't muck you around too - fingers crossed for you.

Damn -run out of time - was going to write more but have to go to get my hair coloured (and see if they can do anything about my bad haircut). Chat again later.

[MrsMiggins]

Tan, I totally get what you mean about the newborn thing! I mean, I love newborns & I do get a bit clucky when I see them, but my two kids are so incredibly full-on, I just don't know how I'd go having a newborn in that equation right now. I was telling a friend of mine the other day that if I could be guaranteed of having a calm, placid baby that was going to grow into a calm, placid toddler, I would be keen to go for it right now. But judging by my last two efforts, I think the chances are pretty high that I would have either a difficult baby, or a placid little thing that does a complete 180 at 3 months of age & turns into a demon child!! I could be totally wrong about it, but is it worth the risk??

I think I'll re-assess in a couple of years time & see how we go. Problem is, that Dave is completely happy with 2, so he would take some convincing - add to that the fact that he is 41 this year (and thinks he is getting too old & crabby to deal with naughty toddlers! Well.... I added the crabby part! :)) Plus, I am 32. Not that that is too old to be having kids, but by the time we may be willing to try again, I'll be looking at 34-35 & by the time we conceive & have the baby, you can add at least one more year to that.... I probably will be too old & crabby too!!

I'd really like 3 though (used to want 4!!) so we will wait & see.

That is great about Levi sleeping. Like you said, he's not even 6 weeks old yet, so to be sleeping for 8 hours straight is very good!! Apparently when they talk about sleeping through, that only means 5 hours or so.

Cath, I'm glad you were able to book something else with your flights, but yes - what a huge PITA!!! We tend to fly Virgin Blue when we can, as BIL is a pilot with them, but we have flown Jetstar once or twice & it was nothing to write home about.

We have a birthday party to go to this afternoon - I hope it doesn't rain!!! They hired a jumping castle & they won't set it up in the rain, so I know my friend is totally freaking out about it! It does look like rain, but it hasn't actually rained yet today. :fingerscrossed:

I got him the coolest present!! It was a little remote control forklift. It was only $15 in Kmart - I was so pleased!! I hope he likes it!

We had some stuff for sale in the paper, so we've had a heap of phone calls about it this morning. We had our old bed in there for $50 and OMG!! You'd think we were giving it away free!! So many people called about it & it was snapped up (by a really lovely young couple with a gorgeous little boy) at 8.30 this morning.

If only the stuff I had listed on eBay did as well!

(LOL - I just got another call about the bed!!)

OK, I have to go get motivated to clean the bathroom (the shower is putrid!) and the toilet. The only two jobs that Dave never does & the two that I hate the most!!

[Ange&Seth]

Morning Lovelies :D

Hayles - so glad you got home ok. I'm happy you had fun while you were here but I know that there's no place like home.

Cath - that's so annoying about Jetstar but I've heard that it happens all the time too. I guess that's how they keep their fares so low. Good thing you managed to change the flight though to the earlier one.

Lou - that video of Maddi is SO cute! I guess you're outnumbered now too LOL! Though this morning I asked Seth if he wanted a baby and he said 'no baby all gone' so I think he's over it now :laughing:

Tan - You don't have to pay for kids on Regional Express until they turn 3 so you've still got a few months of free flights left! When I went back to Tassie in October my dad told me to go with Virgin like they were cos the flights were so cheap but cos I had to pay for Seth with them it worked out dearer than flying with Rex and paying a bit extra for MY flight.

Fi - that's great about your bed selling so quickly! I've got so much stuff in a storage unit that I want to sell at a garage sale or something just for a bit of play money (or to put towards the wedding!) but I have to get Adam to bring it to the house for me and he's barely home as it is - I'll get there one day!

Speaking of furniture, we're having a big move around here today. We're buying Adam's boss's daughters old bed (2years old!). It's an ensemble one with the trundle bed underneath so it's perfect for Seth for the next few years. We're also taking our spare queen bed to my mum and dad's and swapping it for my single bed that's still there to put in our spare room. Adam's brought a desk home from his workshop for me to put in the spare room for a sewing table so I'll be able to leave my machines set up and sew more :smiliedance: I'm very excited about it!

I really need to get stuck into my house work aswell cos I've done nothing all week :o You can't even see the floor in our room there's that much stuff thrown in there! I've got one load of washing on the line and it's taken up half of the space! A load of towels in the dryer and another load of clothes in the wash now. I can't really do much more until the sewing desk is put in the room cos then I can move stuff in there. Well, I CAN do more but I really really want to get the sewing stuff set up LOL. Aren't I terrible!

Ok must go and find some motivation. I keep looking but never seem to be able to find it!

[MrsMiggins]

Ange - Regional Express - is that Rex you are talking about??! If it is, then OMG I have been totally ripped off by them!!! That's who we're flying to Roma with in a couple of weeks & Claire's fare was only maginally cheaper than mine (I think the seat fares were the same, but the taxes were less - something like that, anyway!)

(Still haven't cleaned the bathroom!! OK, going to go do it now, I swear!!)

[Ange&Seth]

Yep Fi I'm talking about Rex. Did you book online and tick her as an infant or a child? Cos if you ticked child, that's why you'd have been charged for her. Call them and see if they can change it.

ETA - Where's Roma? I can't find it on their destination list :confused:

[MrsMiggins]

When I booked it, it was the same as any other airline - children under 2 were infants & 2+ were children.

Plus I have Owen travelling as an infant & as I'm the only adult travelling, you can only travel with one infant. Maybe that's why?

ETA: It's in QLD. It comes up as Roma, Italy on webjet!! lol - I wish!!
You have to enter it in manually.

[Ange&Seth]

Ah ok. It actually says on the website 0-2 are infants and 3+ are children. I got a bit confused too when I first looked at it but it means that up until their 3rd birthday they are infants.

You're right though, each infant must be accompanied by a person over the age of 15 years.

[hayleylea]

hi ladies

ange - goodluck with the housework - is it my fault you havent done aanything all week? :p i have a sh!load of house work to do too - just taking a break 2 feed Shelley.

im feeding shelley as i type so excuse spelling mistakes and lack of punctuation. Axel almost gave me a heartattack today. he got out of the yard and was missing for about 40 minutes. I found him in the neighbours yard. :rolleyes: Im looking forward to a home cooked meal tonight after being away!

Shelley is growing up so fast. She has started playing with her toys and spining the things on her playl gym..almost rolls over too. They really do grow up quick dont they!?

Anyway she has finished feeding and i really need to get up and finish off this house work.

Talk soon.

[MrsMiggins]

Oh ok Ange. With all the other ones when they turn 2 they are no longer able to travel as infants so I guess I just read it as being the same.

Claire & Owen had a ball at the party - they both even went on the jumping castle (both have been scared of them up until now). Yes, the rain held off! Phew!

They are both so cranky now though - hyped up on all that sugar!!!

[hayleylea]

boy its quiet in here! hope everyone is enjoying the long weekend.

We went to the MILs for lunch today. Had a really good time. Cooper and her got along really well and she actually played with him!!! So everyone was happy. He even asked to go back there when we got home which he never does. Its good to see them have so much fun together.

Apart from that not doing a great deal...spending the day at home tommorrow, actually looking forward to spending a few days at home after being away!

Anyway im buggered might go lie on the lounge and watch CSI.

[cath]

Where is everyone? Seems like everyone has had a busy weekend - we certainly have.

Well my badly cut hair is now a horrible shade of orange:hair: I keep trying these cheap local places which was fine to begin with and I was happy with but it has not been working out the last few times. We are off for our little holiday to the beach tomorrow and I am just hoping there is a hairdresser there who will be able to colour my hair the chocolate brown with lighter brown highlights I wanted! I didn't really realise at the time because I am totally blind and always have to take off my glasses at the hairdressers and never really get to study it until the end and then I always think "yeah - that looks okay" when maybe it doesn't. This time I thought - "well that's colourful - not one of those waste of money colours when you can't even tell". I thought it was okay until I got home and studied it and had Paddy pointing at my hair saying "orange" - not good:no:

Fi that's great both the kids had fun on the jumping castle - Owen is already sounding so grown up. I saw your thread about what to do with the baby stuff. Lending sounds like a good option if you can organise it. You just never know what you are going to think about another baby in a year or two.

Anna I read your thread about another baby too. Any progress on that one?

Ange sounds like a busy weekend for you. the trundle bed sounds great for Seth and how cool about getting a "sewing room" set up.

Hayley have you settled back in at home?

Tan the reality of having children is different than the ideal isn't it? I thought I wanted 4 too but am definitely stopping at 3 (unless the next pregnancy is twins - happened to my friend - she now has 4 full on little boys:eek:). I just don't have the energy to do it. It really is so tiring being a mother and at 35 I am really feeling it.

Oh damn - Grey's Anatomy is on. Will try and get on again later.

[MrsMiggins]

Oh no Cath!!! That is so frustrating when you can't get someone to do a decent job of your hair at a reasonable price. Hence why my hair is shocking right now!! I have all but given up! I see all these people walking down the street with nice hair & I think to myself - now where do they get their hair done?!! (I actually ask a fair bit too!!)

I hope you can find someone soon!

I agree that lending stuff out can be a good option (although I hesitate because loaning things to friends can sometimes turn into one of those ugly situations & I would hate to have a falling out with a good friend over something so silly as a bassinet etc IYKWIM) But yes, something to consider for sure. It would certainly solve at least 2 out of 3 of the problems!

Cath, I could've written that part of your post to Tan! I too wanted 4 - until I started having kids!!! I still would like 4, but I just don't think I could do it. As you know from my other thread, even 3 is up for debate!! I just know if we did decide to stop at 2, that I would probably have regrets down the track.

Hayles, a few days kicking back at home sounds like just the ticket!! That's nice that Cooper & your MIL had so much fun together! I think some people are better toddler/child people than baby people, IYKWIM? I hope you have a relaxing evening!

We had a lazy day at home here today. This afternoon I thought we might try & do something crafty, so I got some balloons & tore up some news paper, then made up some glue with flour & water & we did papier mache! Claire had a ball (which was a little surprising as she is very finicky & does NOT like having anything mucky or messy on her hands. She did wipe her hands on the towel a lot though! :laughing:)

[MrsMiggins]

I just had to finish that post up quickly then because Claire was yelling out that she'd done a poo (and only wanted Mummy to do it :rolleyes:) so I went to change her nappy & she said she wanted to do a wee. So I asked her if she wanted to do one on the potty & she said yes. I asked her again - Do you want Mummy to go get the potty? Yes! So I went & got it & told her that if she did a wee on the potty, she could have a special animal sticker in her sticker book (something I bought for her AGES ago & that she is desperate to have, but I have always said no, they are for when she uses the potty)

Well, I'm sure it was all a delaying tactic to avoid going to sleep, because she sat on the potty forever wanting me to read her books, but the upshot is - SHE DID IT!!!! :smiliedance: :smiliedance: :smiliedance: She was soooooooo proud of herself & was thrilled to bits with her special sticker book (which she is now allowed to keep). I told her that if she does a wee tomorrow she can have another sticker & if she does a poo, she can have 2, so we'll see how we go. She was pretty excited!!!

[hayleylea]

Cath - hope you find someone to fix your hair up! You poor thing.

Fi - YAY for Claire going to the potty! hope it continues for you!!

Anyway just a quick one for me...talk soon

[MrsMiggins]

Wow Hayles!!! That really was a quick post!!

Well, this morning we are hmmmmm..... so-so on the potty thing.

I had all but run out of nappies this morning, and had to go to the shop to buy some more - I had two left & Claire & Owen both wear the same ones, so I could have put one on her, but wanted to see how we'd go without, so I asked her if she could wear big girl knickers instead of a nappy this morning, just until we went & bought some more. She wasn't too keen actually, but I let her pick which knickers to wear & reminded her about the stickers if she goes on the potty & managed to get her to agree.

Just before we went to the shop, I asked her if she wanted to try & do a wee, which she did, so she sat on the potty, but nothing happened. After a while she got off & asked to put her pants back on & said she'd do one when we got home from the shop (so cute!! lol) so I went & put some nice pants & a top on her & was just grabbing a few things before we went out the door & she said "OH NO MUM!!! I WEE'D ON MY SOCKS!!!" Oh well!! At least she did it at home & not at the shop!! lol So I just told her it was OK, gave her a cuddle & said she would have to tell me next time before she did a wee so that her pants & socks wouldn't get wet. Popped a nappy on her & went out.

I'll see how we go this arvo, but I'm not going to push it. I'm trying not to get too excited about making progress because I don't want to go faster than she's ready to go.

How's everyone's long weekend going? Cold & rainy here & Dave's at work! Not much of a long weekend!! :laughing:

[hayleylea]

That was a rather quick post from me wasnt it :laughing: I had both kids ready for their breakkie, and had a billion things on my mind about what i had to do today (mind you half of them things havent happened yet lol). So yeah i do apologise for my rather dismal effort last post!

Fi - Oh well about Claire and her wee incident. Cooper wont even sit on the potty LMAO!

I just took Cooper for a ride on the 4wheeler he had a ball. USually Trent takes him but i decided i wanted to do some fun things with him so put Shelley in the pram and went out and Shelley watched Trent while i rode the bike with Cooper. Just cooking up some chicken wings for lunch the boys are still outside and shelley is in bed.

Anyway i did make a bit more of an effort this time lol. But i really need to get off my bum and do the rest of the house work! *Sigh*

[bingo]

Fi, thats terrific that Claire is attempting the potty. It sounds like she's trying and is starting to understand the whole deal. Isn't it funny the things these kids will do for stickers!
Hayley I'm guessing that Cooper is happy to be home and not "living" in the hotel like he thought was the case. The 4 wheeler sounds like my cup of tea :D. THat would be way fun IMO.
Cath, how frustrating about your hair color. I hope you find a great hairdresser while your on holidays. Have a great time away and I hope you get to relax and enjoy the change of scenery.
Its been pouring rain all day today. I got the IL's to come over today for about 3 hours to babysit while Tony and I escaped the house. I just really needed to get out and breath IYKWIM. We had a lovely lunch and glass of wine. Then I dragged Tony into the local furniture shop Jimmy Possum and we got talking to the interior designer and we've booked her in for next weekend to do a consult on our house. I'm so excited. I hope she's good! But talking to her we got a lot of ideas and she seemed pretty confident so we'll see.
Maddi is getting heaps better. She still has a husky voice and an occasional cough but apparently it can take up to 2 weeks to go away. So yes she is off to creche tomorrow and me off to work. Tomorrow is a special dress up day at the creche and the theme is fairies and superheroes. I've got a little fairy outfit for Maddi so that should be fun. She's loving the dress ups heaps and has been practicing all weekend with her wand and crown.
Yeah that video is priceless. I've downloaded it to the computer so I've got it in the 21st vault. She must think I've just got a brother or sister in her pocket the way she keeps asking! Too funny.
Maddi's sleeping is still up the creek since she got sick. She's been waking at midnight and crawling into our bed. Its driving me insane as there just isn't enough room for all of us. So last night I cracked it and went and slept in her bed (its a junior toddler bed :() and slept really badly anyway.
Alright I'm going to love ya and leave you lovely ladies and watch my recorded Grays anatomy and have an early one.

[MrsMiggins]

Mmmm... you need the king size like we got, Lou!!!

Just a quick one. Had a dreadful day with Owen's tantrums. I am seriously not dealing well with his behaviour right now. Still haven't been to the GP though (I'm a bad mummy!!)

On a much more positive note, I have a cracker of a Claire quote for you guys!!

We were playing zoos with the plastic animals today & there are 2 turtles that are exactly the same. I said to Claire "Oh, are they twins?" She looked at me like I was the stupidest person in the world & said quietly "No mummy, they're turtles." :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[Ange&Seth]

Fi - glad the kids had fun at the party! Speaking of jumping castles - I went to the market on Sunday with Seth and my parents and there was this jumping castle there. Seth spotted it and wanted a go and I said ok before we got there. The guy said '$5 a ride' when we got there :eek: I nearly died! But Seth already had his shoes off and was in there so I couldn't really say no but OMG what a rip off!! Inflation sure has changed things since I was a kid.

:yelclap: For Claire using the potty!! That's terrific! What a pity she had an accident though. I'm sure it won't set her back though, it'll probably help her realise that she needs to go actually.

LOL at the 'turtles' comment. It's funny the things they come out with sometimes. Doing the grocery shopping the other day, Seth leaned out of the trolley seat and said 'are you my mummy?' WTF??!!! Where did that come from? :laughing:

Hayles - How'd you enjoy your few days at home? I bet Coops loved the ride on the quad bike. Adam's dad's got one too and Seth and I take off on it around the property and go find the sheep and cattle in the paddocks. We love it!

Cath - how disappointing about your hair! It's so frustrating trying to find a good hairdresser and sometimes even the expensive ones are a bit cr@ppy. Hope you find someone on your holiday who knows what they're doing and that you have an awesome time!

Lou - it's great to hear that Maddi is on the mend - poor munchkin. Has the bad behaviour stopped now that she's off the 'roids? Is she looking forward to going to creche?

I really need to get some dress up stuff for Seth. He hasn't got anything dress-upish at all but he loves wearing our shoes and now that I've made his tie for the wedding, any long piece of material is a 'tie' - at mum and dads he picked up their draught stopper (door snake thing) and hung it round his neck saying it was a tie. It was so cute!

Well we took off to mum and dad's on Saturday afternoon to swap the beds around. We took the spare queen size bed from here and swapped it with my single bed that was still at their place. So now the single bed is in the spare/sewing room incase anyone stays over and we're hopefully picking up Seth's new bed tomorrow :rolleyes: I roll my eyes at that because we were told we could pick it up last weekend and when we called them they weren't home, when we went out there Saturday just gone we were informed that they were using the bed that night for a sleep over - thanks for the call to let us know guys! I can't get too annoyed though cos it's Adam's boss but still *shrugs* I was so disappointed on Saturday that we couldn't set up Seth's 'new bed'. So yeah hopefully we'll be able to get it tomorrow and if not, I'm seriously tempted to tell them to forget about it. I mean it's not like they're giving it to us, we're buying it from them. Anyway.......

Umm, there's not much else to tell you that I can think of. Seth had a ball at mum and dad's, so did I :D and I would have stayed longer but it's pretty boring there when mum and dad are at work LOL.

Oh Oh OH!! Adam and I have just about decided on what we want to do with the extension on the house and are ready to speak to the builder about a quote :smiliedance: I don't want to get too excited because it'll all hinge on the bank in the end but still, it's nice to know we're gonna do something about it rather than just talk about it like we usually do.

Ok I really need to go to bed - I've just eaten half a box of Cheese and Bacon shapes and if I sit here much longer I'll end up eating the lot of it!

[Ange&Seth]

Grrr :banghead: just got a text from Adam saying that we can't get Seth's bed today and might have to leave it til his boss gets home from PNG! He could be away for a month at this stage and Seth is not far off from being too big for his toddler bed and I just don't want to wait that long for the bed. FFS! If we were buying it from a store we wouldn't have put up with this delay.

I've told Adam not to worry about it and I'll just pull down the spare single bed (that we only put together last night :mad:) and put it in Seth's room cos at this rate Seth's going to be 18 before we can pick up this bloody bed!

Am I being unreasonable? I don't really think I am but just had a moment of doubt.............

[MrsMiggins]

Oh god, Ange!!! How frustrating!!! No, you're not being unreasonable - I'd be PO'd too!!

I'd be tempted to just go buy one out of the paper or something & then they'd be stuck with that one!! :devil:

That's so cute about Seth & his dress-ups (tie!! :laughing:) I was only just thinking the other day that the kids could do with some dress ups stuff. I think they're just starting to get to the age where they're into it. We have one or two little things (like a fireman's hat they fight over all the time!) and some play jewellery etc, but not much.

Good luck with the extensions! What are you going to do with it?

I have to run. I have to head out to the post office this morning. Only bad thing about selling a bunch of stuff on eBay - having to go out & post it all!!

[hayleylea]

lou, the 4wheeler is a blast!!! We go up in the paddocks and look at the sheep - Cooper just loves it! Glad maddi is getting better. She will look beautiful dressed up as a fairy!

Fi - LOL @ Claires comment about the turtles - thats really really funny!!!

Ange - GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR about the bed. I dont think you are being unreasonable. It sucks when you haev your heart set on it and you keep getting stuffed around! Glad you had fun at your mum and dads ($5 is a rip off - I cant believe how expensive this world is getting!!!) YAY for working out what you want to do with your extensions. Hopefully you get the money you need - your house will look awesome. (It looks good now though but a little more space and you guys could live there forever! :)) Renovations are exciting (even though i whinged about it quite a bit lol)

We wont be doing much today. It rained all night and its cold today. Cooper woke up twice last night - one was a night terrror after i put him to bed, it was a pretty bad one too - he hasnt had one in AGES!!! Then he woke up another time at 3am wanting to get up - i just tucked him back in and told him its still night time and he slept till 9 oclock!! Shelley got up at 4 and had a feed and she slept till just after 9 too. I gave her a bottle of formula this morning and she took half of it without a fuss!!! my fault she probably only drank half because i had forgot to change the teat to the 3 month + not to worry im just happy she took half of it!!

Anyway i better go clean up.

[Wivi]

Hello everyone!

Did you notice I had disappeared for a couple of days? :laughing: Maybe not.

On Sunday I had this urge to go and do something so we went to the IL's place for the night. I really wanted to get our first night overnight somewhere out of the way and the long weekend seemed a good opportunity. I admit that I was also looking forward to some other people being around to entertain Will a bit. So we went on Sunday afternoon and I am pleased to report that it went fairly well - the boys both slept well and Will had a heap of fun. We let Will stay up a bit later on Saturday night so that he could have dinner with the whole family and did it again last night before we left and I think it worked quite well. Troy and I have been talking about pushing his bedtime back a bit so that we are not trying to put both boys to bed at once and so that Will can eat dinner with us as well. I think it is a good plan at this stage. Levi has however decided to be a bit unsettled this morning - maybe too much action over the weekend!

Fi - yay for Claire and the potty. As you say - it is a start. I think you have the right approach - take her lead and see how you go. I've noticed that Will's pull-up has been dry a lot after his day sleep lately but just when I start thinking about letting him have a nap in just his undies he wakes up with a wee so I haven't been game enough yet! I also don't have a waterproof thing for the bed yet so I think I might need to sort something out about that first. LOL about the turtle comment too - they are really clever at this age aren't they?

Ange -I'd be getting very annoyed about that bed. It had better be a bloody good bed for all the hassle it has been! I was shocked at the cost for that jumping castle too! Will has had a couple of goes on them and I swear we only paid $2-$3 for 5 minutes. We live in Sydney and I always assume we have to pay more for everything! Australia's most expensive city....

Seth sounds very cute with his "tie". Will has a dress-up box of sorts. He has had it for ages but there is just a collection of old hats and scarves in there really. Oh - and the "super will" outfit now. I just figure I'll keep adding stuff to it slowly as things come along. That reminds me - I think he needs a builders helmut - he really liked my Dad's last time my Dad was here!

Cath - you poor thing and your bad haircut/colour! I need a haircut too (something to organise before the baptism) and I have this desire to do something really different but am a little scared of what I would do if I didn't like it! I kind of felt like this after Will too - I never really did it though. I did have a chuckle at Paddy pointing at your hair and saying "orange"! My Mum had a similar experience when I was a teenager and I have to admit that we were all a bit wicked and called her silly names like "matchstick" for a while! Now that I am older I am sure it would have made my Mum feel 10 times worse. :laughing:

Lou - I am glad Maddi is feeling better but that's no good about her sleeping. Do you ever feel like the sleep/sickness dramas are never going to end? I used to feel like that all the time with Will when he was sick and it threw his sleep right out the window. Even now when he wakes up sometimes I just lie there thinking - does this ever end? What was I thinking having another baby? I am a shocker with not much sleep and I never realised how easily sleep is disturbed in a little one.

Hayley - we love the quad at the farm too! It's Will's favourite thing to do and has been for ages. It's good that you did something fun with Cooper - it's easy to let that kind of stuff slide when there are 2 kids now. I feel really conscious of it especially as we have had a few rough days with Levi in the past couple of weeks and I have felt like I have spent an awful lot of time saying "no Will - not right now". Levi seems to be an incredibly windy baby and somedays are an endless succession of burps and farts that disrupt sleep. He's been a bit chucky the past couple of days too - Troy's Mum thinks he might have a bit of a tummy bug but I have my doubts. I think that's probably just the way he is and it will get better as he gets older. He is doing great at night (he went 9.5 hours without a bottle last night!) and I think if there was something wrong it would disrupt night time as well. I read in the BabyLove book the other day that lots of babies are a bit unsettled between 6 and 8 weeks and that sounds like Will and Levi to a T. It was nice to know and hopefully it will all settle down again after that!

Oh Hayles - YAY for Shelley drinking the formula! Here's hoping it continues for you. That's no good that Cooper had a night terror - I thought they were in the past for you.

Where is Renee? I hope she is doing ok.

Time to give Levi a bottle.

[hayleylea]

Tan - glad you ahd a good time away. I was actually wondering where you had got too i figured it was either the inlaws or your parents house.

I try to do fun things with Cooper alot more now Shelley is here....i sometimes feel like he gets left out a little - even though everyone tells me its all in my head. Shelley is a pretty care free baby so i do get to spend lots of time with both of them but i just feel sorry for him sometimes...i was the youngest so i never had to deal with a new baby coming along lol (not that she is that new now!) The motor bike is our new thing - im going to take him alot now. Thats usually his and Trents thing but he really likes me taking him aswell. Ive actually taken more notice of the time i spend with the kids now. I use to always be doing something - I use to vacuum and mop every single day- now i dont!! I mop every second day - i still vacum almost every day but if i can leave it till every second day then i do that. Id rather spend time with these 2 then do the house work lol

RENEE YEAH WHERE ARE YOU??? Hope all is well with you guys!:hugs:

Anywho Trent has to go into town and get his needles today so i might get dressed and go for a drive in - its raining here so not much to do!

TAlk soon

[Wivi]

Well we have had a bad day here. :( Something has been up with Levi all day and he barely slept until 4:30 when I finally managed to settle him - probably out of sheer exhaustion. It's so hard to know when they are this small what is wrong but he seemed to be bringing up stuff in the back of his throat, coughing and very windy. Thankfully it was a daycare day for Will as Levi needed lots of cuddles today and the self settling pretty much went out the window. He even sucked on his dummy which he never does unless he is really upset.

I have ended up making an appointment with a chiropractor nearby who sees kids after I read some research that said that babies who are born after a fast labour are 35% more likely to be colicky, windy or have reflux and that seeing a chiropractor may help this. I realise that we probably just had a bad day (and a few lately) but the appt will only cost me $15 once I get my private health rebate and I thought it was worth it if he gets some relief from this silly reflux. I have been watching him carefully and he does seem to have some of the classic symptoms. I feel sad for him, and would like to give him some relief if we can. So the appt is 9:30 on 17 June.

That's enough about my crumby day. I have suddenly realised that one baby really was very easy - I can't believe I had a meltdown when Will was little!

OK - almost shower time for Will. Better get a wriggle on.

[MrsMiggins]

It's OK Tan, I have felt the same way many, many a time!!! I now wonder what was so hard about having one child!! :laughing: (Not saying that there is anything easy about having one child, but juggling the two of them constantly makes me think I used to have it so easy & never realised!!)

Sorry to hear you had such a bad day! I think the chiro is a great idea. One of the mods here (Tam-I-Am) just had a bub & took him to the chiro after he was born & she said everything "clicked" afterwards (pardon the pun!!) and all the issues they had disappeared. Definitely worth a shot!! Especially if it's only going to cost you $15!! :thumbsup:

OK, I have to go cook some dinner for this tribe.

Have a great night ladies!

[Wivi]

OK - I am back in here again. I need some help - not about Levi, but about child #1 Will.

He is normally such a happy go lucky, easy going kid and you all know that we have always been able to take him (and leave him!) anywhere without much of a fuss. He would also sleep anywhere without any dramas.

Since I went to the hospital to have Levi a lot of that has changed. Most of it is getting better again as long as it is familiar things like leaving him at daycare and leaving him in the creche at church. What does not seem to be getting better is going to bed when one of us is not here. Tonight Troy had a meeting and left after saying good night to Will. I have had the worst time getting him off to bed. He has been in bed crying and keeps yelling out for cuddles etc. He knows where Troy has gone and that he will be back but this happens every time one of us isn't here! He didn't even respond to the usual threat of "I'll take your library books back tomorrow..." and now I have to do it.

Do you think it is just going to get better with time? Cause at this rate I cannot imagine how Troy and I are ever going to be able to go out together again - even though his brother and sister in law have actually offered to come down and babysit if we ever want/need to go out somewhere!

Aaarrgggghhhh! I wish I knew what went on in his head! Maybe I should just go to bed and start again tomorrow.

[bingo]

Tania, wish I could tell you the secret of good sleep but I'm still looking for it myself. I've resigned myself to the fact that Maddi won't go to bed of her own accord when she is babysat so she usually just sits up with them and eventually falls asleep on the couch. Then they transfer her to her bed. I cannot even imagine how they would go trying to get her to have a sleep. :rolleyes: It would probably end in her getting totally worked up and vomiting. And I don't want to make the babysitters go through that. Although it would be nice to see my MIL who is the expert (cough cough) on children get vomited on. Oh I'm terrible! I hope its just a bad day for Will and he's back to normal tomorrow night, especially after he see's his library books go back home. I've heard really good things about Chiropractic care and kids too. Actually I've had Maddi on the waitlist for my osteopath and she's finally got an appointment for July. I can't wait and I'm hoping we'll solve a lot of health issues with her. Keep us informed about how the chiropractor goes for Levi.
Fi, I'd love a King sized bed. The Queen is perfect for the 2 of us but totally sux for three. Especially when the smallest of that three dominates the bed :banghead:. But I can't see us getting a new bed anytime soon. We've only had this one for about 3 years. How funny is that turtle comment! I had to laugh at your comment about when you had 1 kid and how much easier it was. Why do you think I've been waiting so long to give Maddi her desperately needed sibling? I'm so tired with just one and I jump on here and read about you guys juggling the kids and think OMG. Then I read about Anna with 5 and she inspires me all over again. You guys are freakin' legends for having more than 1 IMO. :D
Ange, I would be really annoyed about the bed and yes I'd be telling them you'd found another bed and go buy another one. Next thing you know they will be saying they have changed their mind! I'm one of those people that once I've made up my mind I want it yesterday. I'm so impatient! How exciting about house reno's. Hope it all works out for you at the bank.

I've discovered a few new things to do around the house to keep Maddi entertained. Got inspired from playschool. Maddi loves doing silly pictures. Thats me cutting out bits of magazine pictures and Maddi pasting them to plain paper to make funny people. Like a dogs head on a boys body with ladies legs and banana arms. She thinks its awesome. Also I've made up a pretty bad dress up game out of a large tea towel and a clothes peg that we make into a cape and she flies around the room being a superhero. We've made Pizza from scratch and Maddi's fav is to decorate her pizza then eat it. She will actually eat all of her mini pizza because she made it. Hmmm, what else........ making up stupid songs on her ukelale. She sang to the stray cat outside the other night "smelly cat go away". I was laughing so hard I cried. I like your paper mache idea Fi, Might have to give that one a go!
Alright better put my fairy to bed. She is so tired from creche today.

[bingo]

Oh nearly forgot to post photo's of Maddi in her fairy gear:
fairy1 (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/fairy.jpg)
fairy2 (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/fairy3.jpg)
fairy3 (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/fairy2.jpg)

and you know the blooming annoying thing about fairies and superheroes day is when they change the date and send it out in a newsletter the week Maddi is away sick. Yes.........Maddi was the only fairy today but she looked cute and she still had fun.

[hayleylea]

Hey girls

Tan - hugs for your bad day today with Levi - i read somewhere about chiros being help too - i meant to say something to you yesterday!! i hope it all works out good for you guys.
As for Will not wanting to go to sleep without you both there. I dont think i have that great of advice for you, but i dont think you should let it deter you from taking up that baby sitting offer. If its only just happening after you going to hospital i guess it could just be an anxiety thing for him and he thinks that you wont be back (or troy in this case or even thinks that you or troy might bring home another baby.) Id say it will get better with time. Each time he does it just explain to him that daddy will be back later. If Trent isnt home and Cooper wants him i just tell him daddy will tuck him in when he gets home (that is if Trent is coming home that night). Taking up that offer for the baby sitting might even just be what he needs. If he doesnt have either of you there he will probably just go off to bed. Sorry not the best advice!

Lou - how cute did maddi look - lol at it being next week - Who cares she looked gorgeous anyway!!

Anyway im off to bed after i finish watching NCIS.

Night guys.

[MrsMiggins]

Oh Lou!!!! Did I ever tell you how gorgeous Maddi is?!! :D She looks sooooo cute in her fairy outfit!! I bet she won't mind having to dress up twice!! Did you do her face paint?

Tan, I was going to say that Will was probably just a bit anxious & confused and that it will undoubtedly get better given time. I bet when you were in hospital, Troy kept telling him that you would be home soon, so maybe he gets confused thinking that when you say Troy will be home soon (or whatever) that maybe he will be gone for a while too? It's so hard to know how their little minds work!! I hope it gets easier. Like Hayles said, don't let it deter you from having a night out. The more opportunity he has to realise that you can both be gone for short periods of time & that when he wakes up you will be there, the quicker he will get past it. (How sad about his library books!! :( I hate having to follow through with threats!!!)

Hayles, I am so jealous of the quad bike!! I wish we knew someone who had a farm or a property close by!!!

[hayleylea]

:DFi you can always come and visit us for a ride on our quad bike :D

[Wivi]

Oh Lou - Maddi looks so gorgeous in her fairy outfit! What a shame they changed the day and didn't tell you! t least this way Maddi gets to dress up twice - she'll love it!

I think I have just decided that yesterday was a bad day all round. Today hasn't started much better with Levi as he had a feed at 6 and then went back to sleep only to wake up again 40 minutes later with a burp and a big smelly vomit and now is still awake and whinging on and off in his cot. He actually woke at 11:30 last night for a feed for the first time in ages (before midnight) and I ended up giving him some panadol as he was still crying after his feed. Obviously at this age you can only guess but maybe he has a tummy bug? Or he is just an unsettled baby for the moment. There's nothing like an unsettled baby to make you question your competency as a parent.

Today I have my 6 week check with the Ob. I am pretty sure everything will be ok but I think I have to have a pap smear - YUCK!

Lou - I love the activities you have been doing with Maddi. Play School is great for ideas isn't it? I used to do more stuff like that with Will too but lately I find I can't because I am scared that Levi is going to wake up screaming and then I'll have to run off and leave Will with the glue unsupervised :no:.

As for Will - I am sure it is just some silly phase he is going through. I know he'll get over it - it was just annoying on top of my bad day yesterday. These kids and babies are such a guessing game aren't they? Perfect one day and tyrants the next.

[hayleylea]

lou i meant to say that magazine thing with the different bodies is an excellent idea - think i might try it out on Cooper!!

Tan your right its all a guessing game with these babies. Shelley woke for a feed at 3am to which is unlike her. She had the quickest feed ever though and went back to sleep. That 6 week check up isnt very fun is it!!!

anyway im off to play group. talk soon

[Ange&Seth]

Good Morning :D

Fi - The extensions are gonna be pretty full on. We want 3 bedrooms, a lounge room, bathroom and laundry put into the extension but it'll mean that the wall between our room and Seth's will need to be knocked out, the toilet taken out completely to make way for the hallway into the extension, a toilet put into the existing bathroom and a door into that bathroom from what is Seth's room now (cos that'll be our BIG bedroom and ensuite, oh and the wall taken out between the kitchen and laundry so that the kitchen is bigger.

That's what we want anyway - not sure if it'll happen that way. We'll have to wait and see how we go but I'm a bit excited about it. It'll turn our pokey 3 bedroom house into a big 5 bedroom house with ensuite and 3 living areas :laughing: From little things, big things grow............

Hayles - how great that Shelley took a bottle for you! Pity she wouldn't this morning. Hope you have fun at playgroup.

I understand what you're saying about the housework can wait. I try to do little bits every day but really, I'd rather spend time with Seth playing, being silly and cuddling up on the couch. They grow up too quickly I think, and housework always stays the same.

Tan - I went to my mum and dad's for the long weekend too! Seth loves it there and like you said, it's good to have someone else entertain them for a bit. Seth's got his own bike and SO many toys there, and mum and dad have this fantastic concrete path that they refer to as 'Seth's race track' :laughing: so he can just go mental out there.

Sorry you had a bad start to the day with Levi. I've never heard of taking a baby to a chiro, I'm really interested in that now. Are they specialised chiro's for babies or standard chiro's for everybody? You'll have to let us know how you go, and as Fi said it's worth a shot.

With the sleeping thing, if Seth ever stalls at bed time and yells out etc we just let him go. He eventually falls asleep. We also let him pick out a few trucks/cars/trains to take with him to bed and that tends to keep him occupied until he drifts off. The other thing I've noticed lately is that if Adam's not here, Seth sometimes doesn't like to think that I'm up watching tv while he's stuck in bed. So if I go to bed at a reasonable hour (which I really should do anyway!) and tell him I'm going to bed then he's happy enough with that and will go to sleep. I guess he figures he's not missing out on anything then!

Oh I think Hayley has hit the nail on the head - maybe Will thinks that either you or Troy are going to come home with a baby and he doesn't want to wake up and discover a new baby in the house, he wants to see you when you come home and make sure you haven't brought one home.

Lou - Fairy Maddi is adorable! What a pity they changed the day though! I bet Maddi really liked being the only fairy yesterday.

Great ideas to keep her occupied too! I'm running out of ideas here. We've been cooped up inside since we got back from mum and dad's with this weather. Our yard is not really compatible with bad weather unfortunately. It turns to mud and slush and we only have a small amount of concrete for Seth to ride on, so yeah it's been the tv pretty much as the sole source of entertainment.

Seth loves to check the mail everyday. He calls it 'Sess check maya' and he goes out the front door to the letter box after the postman's been, saying the whole way 'thankyou bike!' cos I guess he figures the bike brings the postman :laughing: and he's so proud of himself when he does it too. Today is bin day and he loves watching the truck pick up the bins. Just before, he went out the front door to watch the truck, and I'm sitting here just next to the front door, so I didn't think anything of it. I thought I heard him say something and then I heard the wheelie bin on the concrete - the little darlin' had yelled 'thankyou truck' cos it had emptied our bin and he went out and grabbed the bin and brought it back under the carport where it belongs :D Sometimes he just makes my heart melt with the stuff he does!

Well, I guess I'd better go and do something. Yesterday I organised the spare room and the hall cupboard and Seth's toys in the loungeroom. I bought these cool hamper looking things for his toy storage and they look excellent! I guess today I should really get stuck into the computer desk and our room. I might even get some sewing done at this rate LOL!

Hope you all have a wonderful day!!

[Wivi]

Gee Ange - you really are back with us aren't you? You are doing well with your posts.

That's some huge renos that you would like to do to your place! Renos are exciting - my advice is not to do them when you are PG though cause they always take longer than what you think and you'll end up with a newborn in an unfinished house that is full of mess! Like me really... :laughing:

The chiros are regular chiros but with a special interest in kids. I didn't realise there was one near me otherwise I would have taken Will in the past too. If he is any good I am sure I will be going back for myself. I found this guy in the Bubhub directory! He seemed very nice when I spoke to him on the phone so I am hoping that he is good.

Will is just being a bit odd about who is around when he goes to bed. He's a weird kid. He doesn't care if there are 10 visitors here all making a racket - he goes off to bed just fine. But if Troy or I go out somewhere then he mucks up! It was all over in about 20 minutes last nigh though - I just have to be persistent. It's just a silly phase.

Hayley - sorry Shelley didn't take the formula again. She's stubborn in her own way isn't she? Keep trying - she has shown some promise!

Well - I went and had my 6 week checkup. No dramas, had the silly smear test and I have to say it was the least painful one I have ever had! So that was ok. I took Levi yesterday for his weight etc and the piggy had put on 800gms in 10 days. I thought he was looking a bit rolypoly!

Today so far Levi has actually been a little better. I think it is just going to take some time to work him out properly. When he cries - he has a much louder cry than Will did so it is easy to think he is screaming blue murder when he is actually only whinging. Just trial and error at this stage.

I am starving so I am going to go and raid the cupboard.

Seeya!

[Moorish]

Hi girls! Just popping in quickly. Been trying to get some housework done this week which is proving to be very difficult with 4 children in the house - it's a constant run of feeding, changing, settling for naps, feeding again, reading books, entertaining, more feeding . . . well you get the drift! Things should settle back down on Monday!

Ok, I read an article yesterday and a part of it made me instantly think of you Tan, just from some of the things you've posted and we've talked about on msn.

Article is called Cry Babies (Mother & Baby magazine, Feb/March 2008) - yes, I'm that far behind in my subscription, sad isn't it? :rolleyes:

The article is predominantly about fussy, colicky babies - which may not exactly be Levi, however there were a few things about settling & routines which is where I thought of you!
Anyway, here's about 1/2 the article: (highlighted bits Tan!)



The five essential survival techniques

Ok, so you’re sure there’s nothing medically wrong with your baby, but he’s still crying and is unsettled for long periods 24/7. What you’re going to need are some techniques to get your through until he settles into a more predictable routine, usually around three months.

Sharon Donaldson, M&B expert and parentcraft educator, says the first three months are an ideal time for bubs and parents to get to know each other, calling this time “the fourth trimester”.

“There’s no right or wrong in the first three months”, says Sharon. She stresses that mums shouldn’t feel guilty about how they’re getting their babies to sleep at this stage; there’s no harm in feeding or rocking your baby to sleep. Whatever works, go for it!
And don’t worry that you’re getting him into ‘bad habits’ – he’s too young for that.
It’s not until 10-12 weeks that babies develop sleep associations,” Sharon says. “By three months old babies are more predictable, but before this there is no such thing as routine.”

According to Sharon, a lot of the crying and unsettled behaviour that goes on in the early weeks is due to the overtiredness. Being awake for an hour or so at a time is long enough for infants.
“Babies need more sleep than you’d realize,” Sharon points out, adding that once babies become overtired it’s harder to settle them.
Her recipe for settling a crying baby is the “five S theory”: shushing, singing, swaddling, sucking and swaying.
And when all else fails? Take the pram for a walk, as a change of scene and fresh air often helps. If you’re really finding it hard, getting advice from an early childhood health nurse or going to a day-stay centre can really put things into perspective.


When mum can’t stop crying either

Studies have established a link between colicky babies and postnatal depression, but you don’t have to be Einstein to work that out – just try looking after a crying baby for weeks on end and see how happy it makes you!

Hearing your baby cry triggers the release of the hormone prolactin in your body, making you want to pick him up and meet his needs. When you can’t soothe him you can feel like a failure. “Parents feel powerless to help their baby,” Dr Chan says. “They’re often sleep deprived and concerned for their child’s health, and it all adds up.”
Dr Chan stresses how important it is for mums with unsettled babies to get lots of support from the people around them – getting the know the nurses at your early childhood health centre and having a GP who knows you and your baby really can help. And ask for help from loved ones: call on family or friends to give you a break. You’ll be a better mum for being refreshed.
We know that it’s upsetting to have a baby who never seems happy – you can end up feeling frustrated, helpless, depressed and angry. You love your baby but it’s ok – and perfectly fair! – not to love the fact that he spends so many hours every day crying.
Most of all, it’s very important to remember that having a difficult baby doesn’t mean you’re a bad mum. It’s just who your baby is at the moment – and he will grow out of it.


An end in sight

There are a lot of crying bubs out there, and just as many concerned mums. But the good news is that by the age of around three or four months most of the crying will subside to about an hour a day.
“After their crying peaks at six to eight weeks, generally, they’ve grown out of it by three months – very certainly by six months,” says Dr Chan.
And there’s no need to worry that all the crying will somehow hurt your baby: there are no lingering side effects. Best of all, Dr Chan says studies have shown that by the age of one, there are no differences in terms of health or behaviour between babies that have been colicky and other babies. So it’s just a matter of waiting it out with as much patience as you can muster.



ETA: Anyway, just thought I'd tell you of a little magician of a daughter I have (namely: Imogen). This morning I got out of the shower and Chelsea comes running upstairs to tell me that Immy had done a wee on the potty ALL BY HERSELF!! WELL!! Was I stoked or what?!! I threw some clothes on and raced downstairs to see my big girl sitting on the floor colouring in, next to a potty with wee in it!! :smiliedance: Anyway I made a HUUUUUUUGE fuss! Lots of cuddles, squeals of delight, praise and rewards (chocolate before brekky! ;)) It was a couple of mins later that I realised that her pj pants were damp - oh well, I though - she probably just got a bit of wee on them. It was then I also realised that - SHE STILL HAD HER NAPPY ON?!?!?! :confused: She'd held ALL night, woken up dry, popped herself on the potty and wee-d right through the lot! :laughing: Ah well! I didn't care at all! Gave her a bath, got her dressed and bribed her with some Hi-5 pants that I'd been saving. She's been wearing them all morning and although I've been asking her every 10 mins if she needs to use the potty, I've just plonked her on it now to see if she'll wee. Otherwise she'll have a nappy for her nap time a little later.

Anyway, must be off - kids to feed, washing to hang, dry, fold/iron.

I'll pop back in soon.
xoxo

ETA: No more luck with the TT. Early today (just before nap time) she did a little wee in her pants but was still happy to sit on the potty and pretend to squeeze out some more wee :rolleyes:. She's still in bed napping (with a nappy) but when she wakes up she's agreed to sit on the potty again and give it another go. I can't believe she's not resisting! Oh my! My little girl is growing up!

[bingo]

I'm so glad that today is a 2 day work week for me. I only just made it I think! I'm sitting down to my third glass of red wine and that whoozy oh yeah feeling is just kicking in. Maddi is kicking back on the couch watching peppa pig drinking a bottle of milk and Tony is off to hockey training.

Woo Hoo for Immy! Seems that Claire and Immy are kicking some goals with the potty this week. How exciting! High fives all round. You sound flat out Anna. That article was pretty good and I'll be keeping that in my memory when one day we get in that situation.
Tan, I just leave Maddi with a box of pictures that I've cut out from magazines while I've been watching tv and a bottle of Clag. She's pretty good in that she only uses it on her craft table and she doesn't eat much of it ( I say much because yes she had to taste it). Clags safe for kids and non toxic. But in saying that we do have easy to clean floorboards and no carpet! I guess you can say I'm pretty relaxed when it comes to Maddi and her "art". I just make sure its at the end of the day so if she decorates herself too much I can just stick her in her bath.
Geez Ange your extensions sound huge! What are you going to do with 5 bedrooms :D

[hayleylea]

hey guys

YAY definatley sounds like Immy and Claire are getting ready for their TT. Wish Cooper would! lol oh well he will get there...one day! :laughing:

Lou - lucky you with your glass of red...i dont actually drink red but id really like to have a few drinks soon....*i have high hopes that one day this little girl will take formula :rolleyes:*

Tan - glad your checkup went ok. my sister always complained about papsmears hurting but i have to say that all the ones i have had havent hurt at all. Still not a pleasant thing though!

We have had a good day today. Went to playgroup. It was good havent been there for ages. Mind you Shelley had all of around 3 horus sleep all day i reckon! She was so cheeky. Everytime i put her down she would yell out and carry on i would walk in and she would give me the biggest smiles and start giggling at me!!! In the end i just put her under her playgym and let her go for it! She has only just gone down now! I have a feeling that she might play up a little tonight though being over tired and all - but in a perfect world it would mean that she will sleep for a really long time (lets hope its a perfect world tonight! :laughing:) Tommorrow is house work day, i have so many loads of washing to get dry but the weather has been rainy so havent been able to do it. We use to have the MILs dryer at the flat now we dont have one makes it hard to dry clothes!

No one could believe how much Shelley has grown at playgroup. That cant believe she is only 3.5 months lol. ah well she had a good start to life! She is just so long though, she honestly looks like she is 6 months old.

Ange your extenstions sound great. Big is good! lol. I went from a 2 bedroom flat to a 4 bedroom house and love it but i would still like another bedroom at times! Nah i shouldnt say that i am really happy with this house. Its just right! (be perfect if i had a cleaner lol)

Anyway im off.....

night guys

PS - Go the blues! (we are looking pretty dismal at the moment but i have faith in them!)

[Wivi]

OK - I'm not really on here posting.

I just had to say that is REVOLTING that Maddi tasted/ate clag! Just the thought makes my stomach turn!:laughing:

What is it with these kids and the things they want to eat?

[Ange&Seth]

:smiliedance:Ok I'm hyper!! :smiliedance::smiliedance:

Have just spent the last few hours sewing nappies after grappling with my overlocker earlier in the evening and wanting to literally throw it out the window!!! I'm feeling super productive so I think there's a fair chance I'll be up til I completely finish the nappies off - I'm mad aren't I :laughing:

Am absolutely loving having the little sewing station set up in the spare room. It's so nice to know that I don't have to pack the machines up when I'm finished and I can finally finish off all the little projects that got started and then left to sit for ages.

Lou - So funny that Maddi tastes her clag. I don't remember doing it as a kid but I'm sure all of us have at some point. Good job with the red wine too, I love kicking back with a few glasses.

Hayles - Hope Shelley has a settled night for you tonight and I totally agree that she looks older than she is!

Yeah the extensions will pretty much double the size of the house and one of the bedrooms we'll use as an office but it'll be big enough to use as a nursery or single bedroom if and when we sell the house. The main objective is to give ourselves some equity in the place.

Ok, better go and finish sewing - nut job that I am!

[MrsMiggins]

I haven't caught up but just had to say that Claire did a poo in her potty before bed tonight!!! :smiliedance: :smiliedance: :smiliedance:

Still not getting the hopes up too much (during the day seems to be another matter entirely!!) but I'm happy that she's going this far! She is so proud of herself!!

OK, I need to get some sleep, but I will catch up tomorrow.

[Ange&Seth]

YAY for Claire :yelclap: Seth did a poo on the toilet today all by himself too! He went running past me saying 'Poo mummy poo!' then looked over his shoulder to say 'STOP mummy, stay there, sit down chair!' :laughing: Well ok then! I know when I'm not wanted!

He was really proud of himself too and we make a HUGE deal about it.

Forgot to tell you guys what Seth did last night - I was here on the computer and heard him semi-wake and have a bit of a whinge then go quiet again, then I heard him at his door and little footsteps on the floorboards. I expected to see him appear at my elbow but he didn't and I didn't hear anymore footsteps so assumed he'd put himself back to bed. We checked about an hour later and he wasn't in bed :eek: He'd taken himself into our room and climbed into our bed and was dead to the world! Light was on and everything LOL! It was weird because he hates our bed, won't lay there and cuddle us or anything. But still, oh so cute :D

[hayleylea]

YAY!!!! I put undies on Cooper this morning (told him i didnt have any nappies - thanks for the tip Fi lol) And i sat him on the big toilet a few times and the 3rd time he did a wee!!!!! YAY!!!!!!! :yelclap: So proud of him. Dont know how we will go for the rest of the day but its a start. He wasnt real impressed abouti t but when he sat there i gave him stickers and we decorated his toilet seat with them while we waited for Mr doodle to do a wee :laughing: YAY!

Ange glad you got your overlocker going!

Shelley refused formula again today. :( I think im resigned to the fact she wont ever take it. Will keep trying though.

ETA: Make that 2 wees!!!! YAY!!

[Ange&Seth]

WOOHOO!! Cooper you're a star :smiliedance: Sounds like Cooper, Claire and Immy are all kicking goals with TT :yelclap:

[Wivi]

YAY for Cooper! Wow - I think Claire, Immy and Cooper must have all been chatting this week. That's amazing that they have all started to do wees on the potty.

Whilst Will is generally very good with TT during the day - both wees and poos now - he is nowhere near ready overnight. His overnight nappy is still soaked every morning when he wakes up. So there won't be any progress there for a while I think!

Anna - thanks for that article. That was very thoughtful of you. I think I have read it before - it seemed familiar. Only thing is that all the things I read say different things. As you pointed out to me that article says that babies don't develop sleep associations until they are 3 months. Other articles tell you to start with the fall asleep on their own in their cot right from the beginning. Or is that maybe more for the parent rather than the baby?

have to go - got a baby who needs a bottle - will post more later!

[bingo]

OK - I'm not really on here posting.

I just had to say that is REVOLTING that Maddi tasted/ate clag! Just the thought makes my stomach turn!:laughing:

What is it with these kids and the things they want to eat?

Yep :yes: she certainly did. I can't imagine it tasted too good from the look on her face but at least I know she won't be trying that again. :laughing:.

Wow, there's a mass October 2005 kids TT run going at the moment. Its terrific! You guys must be stoked.
Maddi and I just came back from a big day out. Went to gymnastics then off to one of Maddi's creche buddies house. Had lunch and then when it was time to go Maddi refused to leave. So Sophie told me to just leave her and go off and do my errands and she would ring me if she whinged. So I said "OK maddi if you won't go home Mummy will go without you", to which Maddi turned and said "OK seeya". Didn't even look up so out I walked. Well I ducked down the street and did all my errands and an hour later came back. The whole time she didn't even ask for me, mind you this time when I said it was time to go home she was first to the door. So hopefully next time I say lets go she'll listen? It was lovely to know that I can leave her there for a play when I need to.

How funny about Seth climbing into your bed Ange.

[hayleylea]

website finally updated. See photos of Ange and Seth and my gang on there talk soon:wave:

ETA i put a fair few on there. Computer has been at the repair shop so havent updated it in ages. So just be warned you might need some time lol

[Wivi]

Hey - I finally made it back. I have been busy at home today - I even managed to clean the bathroom! :eek:

Oh Ange - Seth sounds so funny! It made me think of Goldilocks and the 3 bears - Seth wandering around thinking "hmm -that one looks comfy! I might give it a go!" You didn't say - was he happy enough to go back into his own bed?

After saying that Will has been really good with the TT - an hour later he wet his pants while he was sitting on the kitchen bench eating his lunch! I am not sure if he was distracted or if it might have been cause he couldn't get down by himself and I was out of the room for a moment - but there it was. It's been months since he has wet his pants at home (it happened at daycare the other week but I think maybe noone heard him ask). Serves me right for getting too confident!

Lou - Maddi saying "ok seeya" was Will to a T until I had Levi. I am pretty sure he is getting back to that now as well. He never used to bat an eyelid if I left him somewhere and used to very happily wave me good bye. I used to wonder if he would ever miss me! Now at least I know he does - eventually.

Levi was much better today. He only yelled for 5 minutes or so before going to sleep after his late morning bottle and maybe 10 minutes this afternoon. He practically never cries when he goes to bed at night so it's not worth mentioning and this morning we went to swimming so he went to sleep in the car on the way there. Anyway that was a big improvement compared to the past few days.

Going to head off now - want some nice quiet time to myself I think!

[hayleylea]

Hey Tan - glad you had a better day with Levi. :yelclap: Hope tommorrow is even better!

Had to deal with my first pooey undies today lol. He did really good though. We only had a couple of little accidents but he didnt lots of wees on the toilet and potty which i think is pretty good for his first real day of toilet training. When i put his nappy on after his bath he wasnt impressed. He wanted undies on!! I told him we can put them on in the morning and he cant wait.So the toilet training begins. wish me luck!
Anyway im off. Cooper is still up and i need to put him to bed.

Talk soon

[Moorish]

OK! Real quick tonight!

Fi & Hayles! YAAAAY for Claire & Cooper! I have every hope that the TT continues to go great guns! :yes:

Ange - yes, you're a nutter. What the heck are you going to do with all these nappies?!! I nearly sprayed my hot chocolate on the computer when I read what Seth said! Soo cute!

Lou - oooooh how our girls are so much alike! Immy doesn't even look at me when I'm screaming at her to do something! She'll keep on keeping on, head down, totally ignorant! lol! Have to say - those photos are GORGEOUS! Maddi & Immy have the same mischievious spark in their eye and the same stubborn look about their jaw! I know that sounds strange, but there was just something about one of the photos that reminded me so much of how Immy looks when she has her steeley look of stubborn-ness on her face! :rolleyes:

Tan - I agree that a lot of articles often contradict on information. I feel that the article is essentially reassuring mothers that if all else fails, it's ok to rock/feed/cuddle your baby to sleep in those early weeks/months - whatever works and you won't be creating bad habits. Although I read a lot of material on heaps of topics, I'm very selective in what I've applied with my kids, and whatever I've done seems to have worked so far with them! :fingerscrossed:
Great to hear you had a much better day with Levi today!

Cath I hope you're enjoying your holiday and your orange hair is now a lovely shade of chocolate brown! Sorry, but I had a little giggle at Paddy's "orange" comment! lol!


Well today I dropped my kiddies (yep, all 4 of them!) off at my girlfriend's house (Chelsea's bestie Isabelle's) and went into town. I only mean't to go for an hour or so, but decided to pop into Capri (bra shop) as they had a trade-in-your-bra sale. Walked out with 3 VERY expensive (but sexy!) bra's after my lovely 30% discount! I'm still a little sad about the size (18DD) however glad to see the 'girls' hadn't actually deflated too much now that my milk is finally starting to disappear. Can't wait to buy some more bras in Melb. I actually realised today that it has been over 6 YEARS since I wore a normal bra :eek:. I must say, I much prefer my maternity/soft cup ones, far more comfy!

No-go with Immy and TT, seems to have been a one-off the other day. Doesn't matter though, she's been much happier lately to even sit on the potty and will often sit on it for 15 mins while she's watching tv, even pretents to squeeze out the wees every few mins or so :rolleyes:.

Bad news around here at the moment. My very good friend (Isabelle's mum) has separated from her DH :(. I could see it had been coming for a while now but it's finally happened and she's still in the throws of heaps more medical tests & dr's appointments so I'm going to be looking after her youngest on and off a little more often, as well as picking up Izzy from school if her mum has appointments etc. Starting tomorrow. She has an appointment at 9:30 so both Izzy & Samantha are coming down here for a lovely play which will be nice (even though my kids spend hours up at their house today! lol!)
Please forgive me if I duck in and out - hopefully when school goes back next week things will be a little better for me around here.

Oh! Tomorrow night we FINALLY arranged for our babysitter to come down! It's been ages since we could get a date that worked! Shane won a competition at work and the prize was a $100 voucher for any restaurant we wanted so tomorrow we're going out with very good friends of ours to a lovely place on the waterfront. Only problem is that I sort of promised myself a month off all alcohol (eg glass of wine at dinner etc) just to see if it made any difference to my weight loss, so I guess I'll be a lemon, lime & bitters girl tomorrow . . . boooooring. Oh well, at least our babysitting is free tomorrow night as well! (My b'day present from her!!)

Ok so much for a quick one.
Talk soon!
xoxo

P.S. Does anyone know a really good online photo album type site? I'm really getting sick of photobucket. I want somewhere really nice to post some pics of the kids so I can show family/friends etc. Any ideas let me know. Tan yours is fabulous but I remember you saying it was a program or something for a MAC - is that right?

[MrsMiggins]

OMG! I could just cry!!!!!!!

I have spent the last hour typing out a massive post & I just lost it literally as I was finishing up the last sentence!!!


:hissy:

I can't bring myself to do it all over again!!!!

[Moorish]

Oh Fi!! I completely understand how you feel!
My computer has been doing that heaps lately. I'm not sure if it's a hub thing or an XP thing for me - probably a bit of both. Lately I've been getting 10's of error messages where it asks if I'd like to send an error report, then it shuts down every web page I have up. I think Shane needs to completely uninstall & reinstall XP as I have about 100 updates that refuse to load each day (and the number keeps growing).
The other issue is that sometimes with hub I click send and it just ends up with a blank page. I can't refresh, I can't click back - my post has disappeared into space and it's enough to make me want to hurl the computer through a window.
I know it's a huge PIA - but try typing your post in a word doc or something and then just copy/paste it. That way if you lose it on hub, you've still got a copy on your computer.

:hugs: I'm sure you had heaps of fabulous things to say to us all and you had showered us all in your love and adoration! :laughing:

Don't stress about it hun - it happens to all of us :hugs:

[hayleylea]

Fi I hate when that happens! I wouldnt have wrote the post out again either!

GRRRR! Shelley wont take formula again i think the other day was a one off. Ive decided to try a different formula - ive heard that the bellamys organic formula is a bit "sweeter" tasting then the others so i might give that a go. Ive also heard good things about Karicare too...I also heard that Nestle is a sweeter one too - i just dont know what to pick lol. I think i might try and get some samples otherwise it will cost me a fortune. I really dont blame her for not liking formula its disgusting really...but i just want to have the option of giving her a bottle or leaving her with someone. I honestly have suprised myself and dont mind breastfeeding but its important to me that i have the option of formula. Oh well we will get there.

No real success with the toilet training again. But We are wearing undies again - he wet his pants once and is now in town with dad with a pull up on but i doubt he will go. Its ok. We have got to the undie part anyway. It wasnt a complete disaster he did do a little one on there...So we will see how he goes. No turning back now. I dont care if i have wash undies lol he will get the gist of it. He reallly likes wearing undies.

Anyway better head off. This girl is playing silly buggers with me at the moment I go to feed her and she starts giggling and smiling at me and doesnt want it. she will be getting hungry again soon though. ITS FREEZING HERE today!!!

[Wivi]

Hi there,

Oh Fi - what a pain about your post! I hate it when that happens.

Anna - my website is a Mac thing so unfortunately it's not available to you. It's also quite time consuming - hence no pics on there for over a year, I am so slack! I am planning on adding some soon. You sound like you are very busy helping your friend out, I hope they appreciate it.

Hayley - we had a few accidents with Will in the beginning of TT. It wasn't long though before he got the hang of it. He really didn't like being wet which helped a lot. In the beginning I worked out he could hold for about 2 hours and just made sure I took him to the toilet at about the 2 hour mark. I think TT would be hard in winter though! Bugger about the formula and Shelley though. The nurse should be able to give you some samples of different sorts.

Today my boys have woken up with colds. Well - Levi is hard to tell as he is generally a snuffly bub (is that normal?) but he seems snufflier than usual. Will has a runny nose which he has started wiping on his sleeve (Ewwwww!) and needs to be redirected to the tissues. He made me laugh though. I told him to put his tissue in his pocket and the only one he had was at the back of his pants. He started to try to put it in there but couldn't quite work out how to do it and ended up turning around and around in circles! :laughing: It was so hard not to laugh at him. I had to laugh later! He's got it worked out now though - cause I tried to get him to repeat it so that Troy could see and he put the tissue in first go.

I have some e-mails to send so I had better get a wriggle on!

[hayleylea]

yeah Tan i suspect he will have a few accidents along the way i just dont know when i should take him to the toilet. He is a heavy wetter and drinks alot so i dunno. Ill try again tommorrow they boys are still not home. Yeah i think i might make an appointment for the nurse and see what she has to say.

Bugger the boys woke up with colds. Hopefully they are shortlived.

Better go im cooking a cake and missy just woke up.

[bingo]

Wow its quiet in here lately. Anna you're such a good friend. Your poor friend going through all her medical problems and at the same time separating from her husband. She must feel like her life is upside down at the moment. Its great that she can confide in you and your supporting her.
I hope your dinner tonight is wonderful and you have lots of yummy food. Too bad about the alcohol ban though, are you sure you couldn't just have 1 night off? If you stick to it you've got great self control.
Hayley, how frustrating that Shelley is off and on her formula. Just when you think you've hit a home run she goes and does that to you. Keep persisting with Cooper and his TT. Sounds like he's nearly there. Like Tan said Maddi had a lot of accidents in her TT time. Although it was easier in the summer with hardly any clothes. It sounds like Cooper wants to do it.
Aww Fi how frustrating about losing your monster post. Hope all is well up there and you guys are getting some lovely weather. Its freezing down here.
I see from Renee's facebook that she's just finished her assignments so maybe we'll hear from her when she's had time to recover. Hope they went well Renee!

I have spent today doing not much at all. It is freezing cold and its been raining off and on all day and night. We were planning on going to the library but AF decided to arrive with the usual aches and pains so I've opted out for socializing and am hiding away instead. I managed to do a few photo's of what I took yesterday. Their on my facebook if anyone wants to have a looky. Maddi has been watching lots of tv which I feel guilty about but honestly I am in quite the mood today. I see its snowing up in the hills which I'm so excited about. Hopefully it snows all week and we can go skiing next weekend :fingerscrossed:.

[cath]

Hi everyone.

We are back from our little holiday and had a great time and Paddy went to bed tonight asking for "more holiday":laughing:

I have managed to catch up but am ready for bed so will come back tomorrow and post properly.

Love the beautiful fairy photos of Maddi and the photos from Wagga Hayley. I haven't seen a photo of Seth for ages - how cute is he!! Shelley is looking beautiful and chubby and Cooper looks like a little angel as always.

Chat soon.

[hayleylea]

Cath glad you enjoyed your holiday! Great to have you back. Glad you liked the photos from Wagga - yep Seth is a cutie, Shelley is a big chubba wubba lol Cooper looking like an Angel - hmm not sure about that he was up at 6.30 this morning and clearly hasnt had enough sleep :laughing:

Lou - we have freezing cold weather here too! Not fun!

Anyway better head off. I might pump my boobs and see if shelley will take just breastmilk in a bottle again.

[bingo]

Oh yeah I forgot to comment about your photo's Hayley. Looks like Wagga was a fantastic time and the kids played together really well. I love seeing photo's of Seth and Cooper together it just makes it more real the friends that have been made on bubhub. The one's of Seth cuddling Shelley are adorable. He really wants a baby to cuddle doesn't he!? Shelley has grown up heaps.
Cath welcome back. Can't wait to hear how the holiday went.

[Wivi]

Well I finally had a chance to go back and have a look at Hayley's photos! They are so cute and you look like you had a great time in Wagga. Does anyone else think it is really cute that Seth looks just like Ange and Cooper looks just like Hayles? LOL

Cath - lovely to have you back. I hope you had a nice holiday and I can't wait to hear more about it. That's beautiful that Paddy asked for "more holiday!".

Well - Levi went from 6pm til 4am without a bottle last night! That's 10 hours! How amazing is that? Although he needed to be a good boy cause he was a very cranky one between 4 and 6 yesterday afternoon. This no dummy business is not my cup of tea I must admit. Far too much noise! The difference between Will and Levi is that when Will took a while to fall asleep we could stick his dummy in and he would be quiet. Levi will not take a dummy unless there is something drastically wrong and even then only if you are lucky. So we have to listen to a bit more crying - but I guess in the long run it will probably be better - I won't have the dilemma of taking it off him!

Will is still very snotty - but he slept well again last night which is a very good thing. I think he really needs it when he is sick. I think maybe those molars might be on their way too - he has been sticking his fingers in his mouth a bit.

Anyway -I should go and make my T - the boys have gone to the shop! well - Levi hasn't, he's in bed.

[cath]

:yelclap: Good sleeping effort Levi - that is fantastic Tan! I know what you mean about it being noisy if they won't take a dummy - we tried several times to get Will to take one as a little baby and he just wouldn't and man could he cry! I hope Will gets better soon - poor snuffly boy.

Good luck with the bottle Hayley and I hope Cooper is being good for you after his early wake up. Sounds like a big nap might be in order today.

Tan I was thinking the same thing looking at the Wagga photos that Seth is so like Ange and Cooper is totally Hayley's son - I love seeing similarities between parents and their children. Speaking of which I love the new photos of Levi you emailed through! He looks so much like Troy I think - he is so cute with that beautiful little newborn smile -beautiful boy!

Well our holiday was great. The house we rented was fantastic and the weather was mostly good (very cold on a couple of days but still good). Paddy was so excited the whole time and he went a bit nuts. He was so excited that his behaviour was a bit out of control at times and the poor boy spent a bit of time sitting in the laundry. He threw a toy one day and hit a glass on the bench which smashed so there was a big time out for that one. The poor little fellow was so upset about it -it was all a bit sad for everyone really - so sad to see him looking at the floor in the laundry and then crying and not wanting to come out. Later that day he came out with -"no eating toys Will - Will laundry". It was a bit hard to explain that Will didn't have to sit in the laundry for his "bad behaviour" of eating toys because he is only a baby and doens't know what he is doing. We caught a ferry across the bay one day which Paddy loved and had a great lunch at the pub on the other side. We wandered around looking for crabs in the rocks on the beach and checked out a few lighthouses and mostly just relaxed. It was so nice to have a change of scenery. Here's a couple of photos:

Paddy and I (excuse the orange hair) (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_6443.jpg)

The boys on the beach (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_6447.jpg)

Looking for crabs (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_6449.jpg)

Will all rugged up (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_6456.jpg)

Okay - I will have to go again for now to get some washing done and the shoping list organised but will come back later and respond properly.

[hayleylea]

Cath Cute photos!!! Sounds like you guys had a good time away!

Yeah Cooper is definatley a mini-me. Shelley is still more like Trent although a few photos i have of Cooper and her at the same age are identical so she must have a bit of me in her somewhere lol.


No luck with the bottle! she wont even take BREASTMILK out of the bottle! So frustrating. Ive decided to leave it till monday and as of monday she is going to get offered the bottle each feed first and see what happens. Like i said i dont mind breastfeeding (yes i suprised myself) but its not something i want to do till she is 1 so hopefully she will take it shortly. Ill keep feeding her for awhile even if she does take formula i just want the option to be able to leave her with mum or Trent while i go out etc.

Anyway gotta go. Talk soon.

[Wivi]

:laughing: Cath! Paddy is so funny with Will isn't he? The whole laundry thing really gave me a chuckle. So cute.

It looks and sounds as though your holiday was great. Your hair doesn't look all that bad by the way - I know it is not what you wanted and that is always the main issue. I on the other hand have a seriously overgrown mop with dark roots that looks terrible and I really have to try to make an appointment to do something about it soon.

Levi does seem to look a lot like Troy at the moment. The self settling is going ok most of the time but I hate hearing him cry - even just the grizzle. He drops his bottom lip and looks like his heart is going to break! I can just imagine what toddlerhood is going to be like with him. Will never did the whole bottom lip thing - it's actually kind of funny. I actually said to Troy this morning that I am sure our neighbours must think we are murdering Levi sometimes with all the noise but Troy just laughed and said he doubted they could hear him at all. I am a bit paranoid about that - always wondering what other people think of me and my babies.

Troy is pretty under the weather today and Will is quite snotty too. I still think Levi is coming down with the cold thing - his eyes look kind of watery IYKWIM. He also had a disrupted morning sleep when he woke up after an hour with a giant poo and then would not go back to sleep. He has gone back to bed now so we will see what today brings.

Will chat more later - have left Will eating strawberries.

[Wivi]

Gee - it's been very quiet in here today.

I am so sad right now. My brother and his wife rang a while ago and told me that they lost a baby yesterday. She was 17 weeks PG but they had known for some time that the baby had major medical problems. We didn't even know she was pregnant -they didn't want to tell us when they knew there were problems and I was still PG and then they didn't want to tell us when I had just had Levi.

I am so devastated right now - I feel terrible that I had a beautiful, healthy baby and look what they are going through. They don't have any other children and they are the ones who got married last year at Easter.

I am sorry about the post - just needed to write it down or something.

[bingo]

Oh Tania that is so sad. I'm so sorry for their loss. :hugs:to you too. Your brother and SIL are beautiful, loving people to keep you in their thoughts during their difficulties.

[hayleylea]

Oh Tania im so sorry to hear about your Brother and SILs baby :hugs: Thats so sad. Im thinking about you all. Your family sounds very supportive so hopefully thats enough to get them through this sad time.:hugs::hugs:

[Katcha]

Hey everyone, I'm back! I've finally got all my assignments done, so that's my 1 and only subject for the year over & done with. I'm deferring next semester because I don't really think it's a good idea to be studying & working on assignments & giving birth to a bub in the middle of it all! Anyway, apart from a cold we all had, we're all going OK here. My nose is still really snuffly though & I keep having to take nose decongestant sprays to un-stuff it. Katelyn's still got a bit of a cough but that's going away.
Work has been pretty busy lately...I've got over 8 hours flex-time up my sleeve I've put in so many hours recently. At one of the sites I'm at we got a new machine that's nice & modern & so nice to work on. :yes: Oh & on the subject of work, my work tops are now getting just a little bit tight on me....apparently for pregnant people where we work we can either pay for new uniforms that fit us, which I'm not doing because they just give you a bigger size, not a proper maternity top, or we can wear a plain navy or white top. Well anyway, I've already got a couple of white ones from last time, although they're not real maternity tops & I don't really like them because I always seem to get my white tops grubby (I'm a grot, I know! :p) & they've got long sleeves which annoy me. So I've been trying to find a plain navy shirt/blouse for work, but do you think anyone over here sells navy blue maternity work shirts?? NO! So I gave up in the end & just bought a nice 3/4 sleeve black one with kinda silver stripes on it. I figure my work aren't really gonna pick on a pregnant woman about what she's wearing.....especially when the doctors there seem to think they can wear whatever they like, even when they're not preggers.
Well, I've certainly rambled on a bit there, haven't I?

Tan, I'm so sorry to hear that your brother & his wife lost their baby. It must be so awful to lose one at 17 weeks. I know it was hard enough for me at only 8 weeks. :hugs: Try not to feel so bad that you've got a healthy bub yourself, I'm sure they wouldn't want you to be feeling like that. :hugs:

Hayley, what a nuisance about Shelley not wanting to drink from a bottle. Have you tried different shaped teats? Oh, I checked out your website. Shelley's certainly growing up isn't she? Looks like you all had a great time with Ange & Seth, & I agree, it certainly looks like Seth would like a little baby brother or sister!

Cath, I'm glad you enjoyed your holidays. Looks like the boys had a great time too. How cute Paddy asking for more holiday! Where was it that you went?

Lou, :fingerscrossed: the snowing keeps up for you for next weekend! Oh, & those fairy pics of Maddi are so adorable!

Tan, how are your boys? I hope their colds are getting better.

Fi, how annoying that you lost your post. I sure hope I don't lose this one...it'll take ages to type out again!

Anna, how was diner last night? Did you end up having the lemon lime & bitters, or did you give your self a night off & halve a nice glass of wine.....I know that's what I would have done! :yes:

Ange, sounds like you've been busy with the sewing again!

Well, that's all from me for now....hopefully I haven't put you all to sleep. Now that my Uni stuff's finished for the year you're be seeing me on hear a lot more often.

[Moorish]

Hey girls! :wave:

Tan - Oh my goodness did I have a giggle at Will's attempt to put his tissue in his pocket! All I kept picturing was a puppy chasing his tail! :D
I know how you feel with neighbours and noise - I'm the first to admit that I often wonder if the neighbours will call the police some days with the amount of yelling, screaming and door slamming that goes here sometimes! Although, both neighbours know there's 4 girls in the house (mummy included) and hopefully realised that it comes with the territory!
Oh and WELL DONE LEVI for a mighty sleep effort overnight - AMAZING!!!

Lou - I'm a failure! I did cave and have 2 glasses of wine last night - BUT! I didn't have dessert nor did I have an ice cream when we went to the movies afterwards! :D I'm still going to continue alcohol free til Melbourne though.
Don't feel guilty about Maddi watching tv - my kids have seen their fair share these school holidays - bring on Monday, back to school! Yay!!
Oh and I hope the snow continues so you little ski bunnies can hop up the mountains next weekend!

Cath - glad to hear you're home safe and sound! You must have had a wonderful time if Paddy was asking for more holidays, if only it were that easy! (Ahh, the young and naieve!!)
W.O.W!! For a moment I couldn't actually figure out who was sitting in the bottom of the pram - Paddy or Will! Until I realised that of course it had to be Will! Goodness Paddy seems to have gotten tall lately! I just think he looks so grown up with his hair cut short too - I just love it! Oh and I wouldn't have said your hair was orange Cath - it's more auburn :D. So glad you had a wonderful holiday

Hayles - I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble with Shelley and the bottle. We had a chat on msn the other day about it all and I just don't know what to suggest at the moment, although I do thing that consistency is the key. Rather than offering, having her refuse, then trying again a few days later - I'd be inclined to try at a the same time each day eg. about 1/2 hour before a feed - that way she won't be too hungry, but might be interested enough to try it. How'd it go with formula samples by the way?


Oh Tan!! I just read your post about your brother & SIL, I'm so sorry :(. There's no way you should feel guilty (for lack of a better word) at all Tan. I know you have such a huge heart and I'm sure the reason why your brother left it until now to tell you is so that you wouldn't have stressed about them while you were pregnant. I'm sure your brother and SIL are surrounded with love and supported by family during this time and I guess that's about as much as anyone can do right now. I'll be sure to keep them in my thoughts and prayers Tan. :hugs:


I should sign off for now, I'm tired - I'll catch everyone up tomorrow.
xoxo

ETA: Renee, we must have been posting at the same time! Great to hear from you! And a bit WOOHOO! on finishing your assignments! Good idea to defer - I hope this means you can relax and take it easy until bubs arrives!
How hard it must be to find the right work clothes!! I'm with you - I'd just choose something that looks comfortable yet appropriate - I mean seriously, how is a bigger size going to work anyway? You'll have to replace it a few times as your belly grows! One other option is to find some nice, simple white maternity tops and plonk a couple into a bucket of navy clothes dye - but only do it if your boss gets picky! Lol! Oh just thought of another option - what about wearing your work shirts undone over a plain white or navy top? Or are the shirts really designed to be tucked in? Anyway, I agree with you on the Dr's wearing whatever they like so if anyone comments, keep that thought tucked under your belt! lol!


Oh I'm still up anyway so I'll quickly update everyone.
Last night was great - we went to a lovely restaurant on the waterfront called Blue Skies (http://www.blueskiesdining.com/). Only bugger was that we lost our prize cheque so we had to pay for dinner but Shane kept the receipt so either he'll ask his work to write him a cheque or we'll just get them to write us up another cheque for a different restaurant. In case I hadn't mentioned before - Shane won a $100 prize (weekly social club raffle) at work for any restaurant we wanted.
Anyway, yes I did cave in and had 2 glasses of the nicest NZ white wine ever! At $37 a bottle it'd want to be good! I had a lucious highland lamb rump, grilled binji potatoes, rosemary and balsamic ratatouille, rich red wine jus and gremolata (ok - I just copied that straight from the menu so you could all drool!) OMG it was perfect winter food!
Our friends left at around 9:30 and we decided to head up to the cinema to see what was on. We grabbed some tickets and saw Indiana Jones in gold class. I nearly fell asleep a couple of times (I was sooo tired!). We were a bit disappointed with the direction that the movie went (definately not where we thought it would go) but we were both impressed at upcoming actor Shia LaBeouf's performance. We've seen a couple of his previous flicks (Disturbia, Transformers) and there's another coming up called Eagle Eye that looks pretty good too. Anyway I'm rambling.

Today I had all 4 kids while Shane yet again went to soccer - SOOO fed up with it! He knows it too - he's (apparently) told them he's not playing next week, hmph - we'll see . . Anyway! I took our ironing board back to the hardware store and swapped it for a new one - we'd bought it in Jan, got it home, unwrapped it and discovered that the plastic caps on the feet were split so I called the store back but we'd bought the last one so they said they'd call when they got more stock . . . 6 months later and I called them. They were apologetic etc but it was just a hastle having to cart such a heavy thing into the shop with the kids.
After I collected Shane from soccer we made a mad dash around all the shops (Harris scarfe, big w, kmart etc) to try and find an iron as a few weeks ago I dropped ours onto the hard floor and the front plate slightly dislodged which causes it to drip slightly. Anyway, Target had all their irons discounted (mainly only $10 or so) but a guy came to help me (as it was 5 mins from closing!) and I ended up walking out with a Tefal steam station that was $300 reduced to $89!!!! OMG I was stoked! I really wanted a Tefal iron but it was $98 but now I have one on an actual steam station which will do the job heaps better! Off to test it tomorrow (sad when this is what I get excited about).

Ok really better go - Alex is really unsettled tonight and Shane's being really horrible and just telling him to shush - poor kid didn't have much of a nap today and is teething badly so really needs some good cuddles. Men don't have a clue and Shane definately doesn't have any patience - I've already cuddled Alex for about 10 mins a little while ago.
Ok talk soon xoxo

[bingo]

Oh Anna, let me know how that steam station works out pretty please. I just looked up our sales in Bendigo and that Target sale doesn't start until Thursday here. If its any good I might buy one for Tony too.
Your dinner sounded so yummy. I'm glad you had a couple of glasses of wine, would have been a shame to miss out :laughing:. Hope Alex settled in for you. Poor bubs with those teeth cutting through.
Alright better run, got an appointment in 10 minutes and I'm not ready!

[Wivi]

HI Renee! Lovely to see you in here again. Good to hear you are going well. With the maternity shirt thing I would probably opt for black too - I doubt very much anyone will say anything to you. Anna's suggestion about the work shirt over a maternity one is a good idea too - if it works with the style of shirt you need to wear.

Anna - you write such mammoth posts - and remember everything! Levi did another huge stretch last night - I think it was easily 9.5 hours. I figure that if he sleeps that well at night he is bound to be awake a bit in the day! Yes - day sleeps are still interesting. Picking the "right" time to put him down seems to be the problem. He is very social and even if he is dog-tired he will grin as soon as you look at him. It is very deceiving! It's very hard in the middle of the night when he wakes to ignore him (you know that whole no eye contact thing) cause he just lies there grinning at you!

Thanks everyone for your thoughts about my brother. I still feel very sad - the full story is quite messy so I won't fill you all in but there was some medical stuff ups early on that certainly haven't made their journey an easy one. I can't really imagine how they must be feeling - but every time I look at Levi I start to cry, hopefully that will stop soon.

OK - want to go and have a cup of T so I'll chat more later.

[cath]

:hugs: Oh Tan that is just so awful about your brother and his wife. My thoughts are with you all. I can not imagine how horrendous that would be to lose a baby at 17 weeks - truly awful.

I wrote a big post last night and it was my turn to lose it all so I will have to do it again later.

Paddy is demanding attention so better go for now.

[Katcha]

Anna, good for you having those glasses of wine.....I would have caved too! :yes: I like your idea on wearing a navy top under the work blouse, I might try that & see what it looks like. Oh & well done on your steam station...sounds like you certainly got a great bargain there!

OK I gtg now. Hope you're all having a good day. :)

[hayleylea]

Hi Renee Good to see you back. Well done getting your assignments done!

Tan - sounds like a really tough time for your brother and wife at the moment. Poor things. I have no idea how they must feel its just horrible. :hugs: I forgot to comment on Levis great sleep the other night!! WHOOHOO!! I think Levi and Shelley would get along great (especially of a day) She is such a smiley bum, its just gorgeous. When you walk passed her she looks at you with the biggest grins and waves her little arms and legs about.

Anna - WOW geez you can write posts! WELL DONE!! You do comment on absolutley everything - Dont know where you get the time but glad you do. Thanks for the Chat the other day about Shelley and bottles. Ive been reading reading reading up info on the net and i also think Consistency is going to be the key! She will get offered a bottle every day at the same time and we will go from there. She is very stubborn (like me!) so it will be interesting but we will see how we go. Havent done too well with the formula samples. Apparently there is a W.H.O act or something like that (cant remember the exact name) and alot of companies abide by the guidelines of not to hand out samples because of the whole Breast milk is best for babies. Im not completley happy with Heinz at the moment (thats the one im trying her with) So think ill just try bellamys organic. If she doesnt take it my friend has her baby on it so i can atleast give it to her and its not a complete waste! Wish me luck. Probably try the middle of next week or so (have to get myself psyched up and have to go to town and get the formula). my mum is coming up on tuesday and staying the night so ill get her to try her too. Trent does try but i think mums have a certain way of doing things with babies that Dads just dont get. lol No offence to any dads out there but i just think mums are more experienced at different things.

Anna i hope Shane keeps his promise about soccer next week! well done with the steam station! I still think your mad for ironing - :o I dont iron unless i really have too. LMAO. I just fold clothes straight off the line. :o Im bad huh. lol

I just changed my website around. I decided on a new theme just for a change. Check it out if you get a chance and let me know what you think :p

OK im off. We have been at the MILS all day and im tired as. Trent wants to go for a drive 3 hours away to look at some army trucks tommorrow and wants me to go. NOt too keen right now. Unless you want to meet us for lunch Ange at cootamundra lol.

OK gotta go.

[Katcha]

Hayley, I love the new theme on your website. Very cute. :yes: Good luck with trying to get Shelley drinking from a bottle. I hope she eventually gives in!

Well, I'm off to get ready for bed now, hope everyone's had a great weekend. Night all. :sleeping:

[Ange&Seth]

Hello ladies! I'm back again!! I can't figure out if I've been absent too long or you guys just talk lots!

Anna - all the nappies I'm sewing are orders waiting to be filled. My gf and I make nappies and sell them - well, she normally makes them and I do the inserts but gf's pregnant and really tired and has a major lack of motivation so I said I'd help her out with the nappies. I've never been confident to do them before but now that I've made a few for Seth and have the machines set up constantly, I'm feeling heaps better about doing them and I only stuffed 3 out of the 18 that I had to do - I didn't think that was too bad at all :laughing:

Immy sounds like Seth did when first TT'ing. What were Chelsea and Nicola like training?

Tan - I had a giggle at the image of Will turning around in circles to get the tissue in his back pocket!

Do you really think Seth looks like me? I look at him and just see Adam! I have a photo here of Adam at 18 months and you could swear it's a photo of Seth. I've had people actually ARGUE with me that it WAS Seth LOL!

Yay for Levi sleeping 10 hours :yelclap: well done little man! Seth wouldn't take a dummy after the first 3 weeks either and I thought 'great! won't have to try and take it off him later!' but now we have a thumb sucker and good luck taking THAT off him :rolleyes:

Oh Tan! I'm so sorry to hear about your brother and SIL. What a devastating thing to happen. :hugs: to you and them during this time.

Hayles - When Seth first started TT'ing, I would constantly ask him if he needed to do wees and he would always say no but I'd say 'come on, lets go and try to do a wee on the toilet like a big boy' and he'd sit for a bit and then hop off. Most times though he did go, and the only accidents were when I was busy with something else - and eventually he learned when he needed to go. Did you see our step seat thing we have here for Seth? I think that really helped him with training (he flat out refused to sit on the potty AT ALL!) because he can put it on by himself and he thinks that's pretty special :laughing:

ROFL at the 'pump my boobs' comment!!! I knew what you meant but it just sounded so funny!

Cath - glad the holiday went well. I don't think your hair looked Orange in the photo. Did you find someone to fix it though so you're happy with it? Love the photo of Will all rugged up - Is that a Phil & Ted's pram you've got there?

Lou - I love the photos of Seth and Coops too for the same reason - I guess in a sense it validates the time I spend online talking to you guys because it shows that the time IS worth it when you come away with such great friends :D

Renee - YAY for assignments over and done with! Well done!

Anna - definitely let us know how the steam station went! I never iron anything unless it's desperately needs it but now with this sewing caper, I need to press seams etc and would just love love love a steam station to leave set up in the sewing room.

Your dinner sounded lovely! Next weekend Adam and I are going to dinner and then to see the new Bond film to celebrate my birthday. It's been so long since we've been out to dinner together so I'm really looking forward to it. Adam's going to take Seth to my mum and dad's on Friday night while I go to dinner and then to see Sex and the City with a gf, and then Adam and I will do dinner on Saturday night - so YAY for me!! We didn't do anything for my birthday last year so this year I'm making up for it LOL!

Hayles - it's a date for lunch if you're still keen! Coota is only an hour away and Seth and I could SO be there around 12.30pm if you're gonna be there. Txt me if you want or MSN before you leave.

Ok what have we been up to? I've made 2 more ties for the boys for the wedding, bought the pattern for the waistcoats and have the material there to make one and see how it turns out. Have been working out wedding stuff for the last few days cos I realised we're now down to 97 days til the wedding and I was having a minor (well, ok a major) freakout over all the stuff I had left to do. Really, it's not that much but I managed to convince myself it was HUGE and blah blah blah - a brain fry and bridezilla moment ensued.

Mum and Dad bought a new car and picked it up this week so they brought it up to show us today and OMG I want it! It's a new Ford Mondeo and it just has everything. This is my mum and dad's first brand new car so it's a pretty big deal LOL. We took Seth to the Botanic Gardens here cos every second Sunday they have these model trains that you can ride on and Seth just loves it. Mum and Dad hadn't seen them before so they thought it was pretty cool too.

I was sewing yesterday and heard Seth go running to the toilet, then he came and told me he'd done a wee. Yay good boy I said and off he went playing again. About half an hour later i heard him go running again and this time he did a poo on the toilet - with NO help from me AT ALL! He yelled out for my to wipe his bum and when I went to pull his undies back up I discovered to my immense amusement that after his wee, he'd put his undies on BACK TO FRONT LOL!! It was so cute though because he normally just kicks pants and undies off altogether and then I have to put them back on him but he must have taken them off completely and then put them back on by himself!

Where oh where did my baby go??!!! Oh and you can all stop with the baby brother or sister comments too LOL I'm getting enough pressure from everyone else. On that note actually, LOU, Seth hasn't ASKED for a brothe or sister yet so I think Maddi might be a little bit more ready than he is LOL!

Ok that's all I can think of and I'm tired and it's late and i really need to go to bed. Especially if I'm driving to Coota tomoz for lunch with Hayles, Coops and Shelley!!

[Wivi]

Hm - it's very quiet in here today.

Ange - what a mammoth post! You have done very well. Seth sounds a lot like Will with the TT thing. Will can do it all except put his pants back on as well. Such clever boys we have! Well - in that department anyway.

I think you are going great with the sewing. How you find the energy is beyond me. Your plans for your birthday sound great too - actually a night out with Troy sounds fantastic right now. Hopefully in the not-too distant future we might achieve it!

Renee - so glad you have finished your assignments. That must be a relief for you. Now maybe you can get a little more rest before that bubba comes along.

I am feeling much better today, have had a chat to my Mum and my other brother and now I have spoken to everyone I feel a lot better. It times like these when I get really annoyed that we all live so far apart - it would just be so nice to go see everyone and give each other hugs.

As for my boys - well, Troy and Will are still not well. Troy has stayed home from work (which he never, ever does) and is alternating between hot/cold, has lost his appetite and has a revolting cough. Will is just all stuffed up in the head and naughty to go with it (he fully had a brain snap yesterday and drew on the lounge with a pen and then starting tipping baby wash on the bathroom floor :hair:) and poor little Levi coughed up all this phlegm this morning. Levi was quite unsettled yesterday afternoon and we came to the conclusion that he was probably a bit unwell - he was extremely snuffly and taking his dummy so maybe a sore throat? Anyway he did another 10 hour stretch last night and then went back down again til 7:30 this morning. As I said he has coughed up some phlegm today and he has had a couple of good day sleeps so hopefully he's on the mend. Tomorrow is the appt with the chiropractor so I am hoping he is ok for that.

Is it ok to wait 2 weeks to go to the Dentist once you know you have a hole in your tooth? I discovered a hole in one of mine last night and other than a molar that I had some trouble with a few years ago I don't really know anything about holes in teeth. I called the HCF Dentist and I couldn't get in until 24 June. Will it be ok to wait that long?

I can hear Will yelling out so I had better go now. Chat more later.

[cath]

Oh man - I was going to try and catch up on all ths posts I missed while I was away but it is just never going to happen so forgive me for all the stuff I have missed. I will have to just jump back in from here.

How is the potty training going for everyone who recently started? Paddy is driving me nuts with it and not going well at all. Ange you have me so envious hearing your story about Seth taking himself off to the toilet - I really am so over changing Paddy's nappies - it is getting a bit ridiculous. I think I just have to get brave and take him out of nappies and into undies and deal with the messy consequences but my one experience of poo in undies has put me off ( a bit precious I know - it's all just so disgusting).

My hair colour is fixed which is all good. Now I just have to let it grow a bit again and then find a decent haridresser to give me a good cut - oh to have good hair! Yep - we have the Phil and Ted pram and love it -so good for 2 little ones. Well done with all the sewing and how exciting not long to go until your wedding!

Welcome back Renee and well done with all your uni stuff. Good luck with finding something to wear to work - sounds like a right pain.

Good luck with Shelley and the bottles Hayley. I weaned Will off his morning breastfeed yesterday and he wasn't at all impressed. It was so sad to hear him crying and thrashing around not wanting to have the formula in the morning - heartbreaking but I couldn't cave in. Soon enough I will be off to Brisbane for a few days and he needs to be off the boob before then. I am still doing his feed before bed at night for the next few weeks (until he turns 1 in 3 and a bit weeks:eek:) and then I am stopping. I feel a bit sad about it (remember feeling like that with Paddy too) but he will get over it pretty quickly I'm sure and it will be nice to have my body back to myself for a bit.

Tan how is everything going with your family? Levi is doing so well with his sleeping overnight. He sounds beautiful with his cheeky grins.

Anna sound like you had a good night out and fair enough about having a couple of wines - that would have been very hard to resist. You did well not having dessert or icecream. I am going on a diet as of next Wednesday (next pay day - have already bought too much naughty food this pay period that of course has to be eaten). My clothes are suddenly very tight and I am feeling quite disgusting. I only have one pair of jeans that fit and they are getting realy worn and will probably start tearing one of these days soon and then I am in trouble. I tried wearing my second pair of jeans over the weekend while they were in the wash and they were so uncomfortable and way too tight. Not long until you are over here - so exciting.

Lou are you going to be able to join us for lunch on the Sunday? How are you feeing these days - are you feeling any better?

Okay better go for now - more puzzles to do. Chat soon.

[cath]

:wave: Hi Tan. We posted at the same time. I would think if the hole in your tooth isn't bothering you then it should be okay to wait a couple of weeks. Good luck for Levi's chiropractor appointment tomorrow. My friend took her baby when he was little and unsettled and discoverd his shoulder was out after his birth (he was posterior and hard to get out) and he was much better after seeing the chiropractor -fed and slept much better. Your poor sick boys. I hope you manage to avoid it - sounds nasty. It definitely must be hard having your family spread out but it sounds like you are close and will still be able to help each other through this difficult time. I will be getting your book back to you sometime soon I hope -Dean is back on to reading it (after some pressure from me) and hopefully will finish it within the next week or so (just wanted to let you know I haven't forgotten about getting it back one day). Look after those boys of yours.

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Well i met up with Ange and Seth again today at cootamundra and had a really good day. Cooper put on his shy naughty act at first but came out of it really quickly and had a ball playing with Seth and Ange. :yelclap: It was a really good day it was good to see them again. Ive got some more photos that ill put up in the next couple of days.

Cath - it is heartbreaking listen to them cry isnt it (especially when its over wanting to be fed). Shelley will be ok. She will eventually take it - because she wont have a choice in the end lol. I have Anges wedding in september so im working towards atleast getting her to take a bottle by then... doesnt matter if she isnt completley off the boob but aslong as she is able to take one so she can be left with my mum.

Tan - hope your boys get better soon!! And goodluck with chiropractor tommorrow! As for your tooth - it should be ok to wait that long. But if it starts hurting ring them up and they should be able to see you before hand.

Cooper didnt sleep ALLLLLLL day (thats even in the car which is 3 hours each way) I couldnt believe it. Because he played and played at the park while we were with Ange and Seth. But nope not even a little sleep and we didnt get home till 8pm! he went to bed at 8.30 so he will either have a really good night or have a bad one waking up. Hopefully its the good night. Shelley was good till the last half hour and got a bit restless and did the hugest poo ever. Went all over her clothes (i think this is her moment of protest - she usually does this when she has had enough of being somewhere - particually in the car!) She cried for about 20 minutes, got her home and she was so sad so gave her a bath, she smiled and giggled had a feed and went straight to sleep. Heres hoping she has a good night too.

Ange - thanks for another great day today - it was good of you to travel down to see us. :hugs:

well im buggered so im off to bed.

Night guys

[hayleylea]

WOW! Well the car trip must have worn my kiddies out!!! Shelley slept 11.5 hours and Cooper is still in bed lol. God love them.

Anyway gotta get ready. My mums coming up for the night! :yelclap:

[cath]

That is amazing that Cooper didn't sleep in the car yesterday Hayley. Even though Paddy won't have a day sleep for me if we go for a big drive anytime after lunch he wil nod off. Good to hear he had a good night's sleep last night (and Shelley too -what an amazing baby -you have great sleepers). Not so good abou the poo incident and the poor little thing crying - Will gets sick of the car after a bit too but at least I can now give him a cruskit and he munches on that and is happy for half an hour or so.

Ange I meant to say how exciting about your fun weekend coming up - it will be nice for you to get out for dinner with Adam and to go out with your friend as well. It is nice to go out like we did before we had children and have a bit of fun now and then. When is your birthday? Dean and I are going to some friend's for dinner on Saturday night and we have decided to get a taxi which is all a bit crazy but neither of us want to drive. We used to have dinnner parties all the times with this group of friends before we had kids and hardly ever do it anymore - I am looking forward to it.

I've just sent Paddy off to Dean's parents in undies. I'm sure there will be accidents and I feel a bit guilty as it won't be me dealing with it. Oh well -Paddy requested his Thomas undies (after talking about them with him last night) so I wasn't going to tell him he couldn't wear them.

Okay better go for now - lots to do today. Chat soon.

[Wivi]

Well it sounds as though Hayley and Ange had another good day together yesterday. I can't believe Cooper stayed awake in the car either! I swear my little ones fall asleep almost as soon as you start the engine. That's impressive staying power!

Cath - I think that was a good move sending Paddy to Dean's Mum in his undies. Will was always really good when he was with someone else and he was wearing his big boy undies when we started TT. He would just go to the toilet when they asked him where as he would just say "No -Not yet" to me and 5 minutes later wee on the floor! Cheeky bugger.

The tooth doesn't hurt but it is hot/cold sensitive. I think it will be ok til the appointment.

The appointment with the chiropractor went quite well. It was interesting but I don't know whether I think it is actually going to do anything. Levi seemed to be a bit stiff on the right side and the chiro couldn't Levi's arm above his head. So he freed that up a bit and worked on a couple of other little things as well. But there didn't seem to be too much going on. As far as other things go, poor little Levi is struggling quite a bit with his cold. He was ok this morning (hence why I took him to the chiro) but he got quite tired being out and about and just got increasingly snuffly and has had a lot of trouble sleeping this afternoon. He would fall asleep in the cot only to wake up again shortly afterwards all snuffly and phlegmy (like 5-10 minutes later) and cry. In the end we have put him in rocker where he is a little more upright and he has been dozing in there for a while now. I feel sorry for him. It must be horrible to be that little and snuffly. It says on the demazin box that you can give demazin to babies over 1 month - has anyone done this? Is it ok? I am happy to give him panadol before bed tonight but if something else will make him more comfortable than I'd be willing to try it.

OK -I had better go and see to housie things - Will still went off to daycare today, he's a bit snuffly but otherwise ok.

[hayleylea]

hi guys

Cath - how did paddy go in his undies? I got Cooper some more undies today. We have been in nappies for the last few days after travelling etc but i need to get him back in undies.

Tan glad to hear the chiropractor went well. I hope your kids get better soon!

Anyway got my mum here tonight so better not be no for too long. Just put some photos of Coops and Seth on the website from yesterdays lunch.

talk soon

[bingo]

Great photo's Hayley. Looks like the boys had a great time together again.
Cath, hope all went well with the Thomas undies outing. I'm sure Paddy's Nanna will be familiar with the TT episodes and Paddy would have been so proud to show them he's a big boy!
Tan, the chiro sounds like a good thing. Its apparently usual for kids to get all tuckered out after a treatment. I know I am :D.

Maddi had her first accident at creche today. I got a phone call saying Maddi had fallen over and hit her face on a table leg. She'd cute her lip and had a blood nose but they said she appeared to be fine and after a cuddle and ice pack was back to her usual self. I dropped in there and gave them some neurofen to give to her and I had a spy on her and she did appear fine. I didn't want her to see me in case she thought she was getting to go home. When I picked her up I asked her what happened and she told me in detail. "Fraser pushed me and I fell and hit my head, I cried and then told him not to do that. Its not nice and I don't like it. Your naughty. Then he cuddled me and said sorry. Mummy he was so naughty". I just about cried I was so surprised at her telling me all that in one go. Tony was looking at me with raised eyebrows like WTH where did all that come from. :laughing:
SO tomorrow is the real fairy and superhero day so our little precious fairy is going to have a black nose and a fat lip.
Work has been flat out and I've been coming home with a booming headache every night. We've got a corporate audit on with 2 auditors from O/S and I've been in there today and yesterday explaining why we do and don't do some things. My head hurts! Then I have to be in there at 8.15am in the morning tomorrow for a meeting with them. I'm dreading what they are going to say.

Alright, sorry its a pathetic post but I just needed to get all that off my chest and touch base with you guys. I am looking forward to tomorrow ending.

[Moorish]

Ah cr@p!!
Just came in to catch up and post but I'm being informed that I'm going to bed :rolleyes:.
Explain it all tomorrow but basically Alex is teething and we've not had much sleep.

Ok gotta go before the off button is pushed on the computer!
xoxo

[hayleylea]

Lou - poor Maddi!! ah well maybe you should dress her as a superhero instead lol that way you can say it was on her battles while saving the world :laughing:

Anna i hope you got some sleep last night.

Shelley had an all nighter last night and mum is trying to give her a bottle as we speak but not having much luck! Im trying the NAN HA gold she isnt screwing her nose up or crying at the taste so thats a bonus but she still doesnt want it

Anyway im off to have breakkie im straving!

[Wivi]

Hello all,

We ended up at the doctor's late yesterday afternoon with Levi as he was just so mucousy. He had a temp and apparently his nose is fine but he has all this mucous/phlegm in the back of his throat that is putting pressure on his airways when he lies down. All a result of this horrible virus that the boys have had. So we had to dig out the vaporiser and give him panadol and keep an eye on him to make sure he is breathing ok. So we did that and he had a bottle at 6, in bed by 6:45 and I didn't have to get up to feed him again until 5:15! He went back to bed after that til 7:30 and started the day not too bad. We'll just have to see what happens today.

As for everyone else - Will is coughing up gunk, Troy is dog-tired from being sick and having to go to his boss' house in the middle of the night last night to do some financials before his divorce settlement court hearing today (he got home at 2am!) and then the stupid Euro Soccer cup that he keeps getting up in the night to watch. I think I am developing the dreaded lurgy too - so we are a pretty miserable household today.

Sorry about all that. Poor Maddi and her face Lou! I hope it isn't too sore today.

Hayles - does an all-nighter mean you were up a lot with Shelley? That would pretty much be her first bad night wouldn't it? I hope everything is alright today.

Anna - I am glad you were booted off to bed. You need more sleep girl!

Have to run - should have a shower whilst things are relatively peaceful. Sorry about the poor effort at personals.

[hayleylea]

Nah - Tan i meant all nighter as in slept all night. Havent had a bad night yet with her thankfully! Still no luck with the bottle - however when we were in town we went to maccas for lunch with mum and my sister and her little girl. The kids got pop top water drinks and i had the lid on Coopers and put it in the pram with Shelley just resting next to her. And she kept putting her mouth towards it. So i put it near her mouth (the lid was on) and she started sucking it like a beauty and trying to hold it!!! So i went to the shops today and got a spout drinking cup (soft one and a hard one) to see if she will drink out it lol. Worth a try!

Sorry to hear Levi was sick! Hope he gets better today.

We have had a busy day in town at playgroup etc so i better go.

Talk soon.

[hayleylea]

just tried some boiled water in the magmag drinking cup and she sucked and sucked nd even tried to hold it!!!! she drank REALLY well out of it! I tried formula in it but she turned her nose up at it. Ill try EBM Tommorrow and see what happens but she did alot better with the cup then any bottle she has tried.

[cath]

Just quickly that magmag cup is the one I had success with getting Will to finally drink his formula from Hayley. It is a good cup.

I will try and get on later.

[MrsMiggins]

Hello again everyone!! I can't even really say I've missed you all, as I've been reading along & just not posting. I've been trying to gear myself up again after I lost my mammoth post the other night!! So frustrating!!

Anyway - let's not jinx it!!

Hayles, that is great you found something Shelley is happy to drink from! Pity she isn't liking the formula, but like you said, can you really blame her? That stuff is foul!! :laughing: You & Ange & the kids look like you had so much fun catching up! Great photos!! Cooper really sounds like he's going great guns with his TT! Good on him!! That is so great that Shelley is such a good sleeper!

Oh Tan!!! You poor thing being in a house full of sick males!! And to be getting sick yourself now! Aaarggh!!! That is just the LAST thing you need!!! I'm glad the chiro went well, hopefully you'll see some improvement in Levi in the days to come. From memory, you can give Demazin to babies from 1 month of age, but you should speak to your GP or pharmacist first. I can't remember how old Owen was when we first gave it to him, but it may have been around 5 or 6 months?? Tan, yes, I totally agree with you about Hayles' photos - Seth does look just like Ange & Cooper like Hayley!!

I totally understand where you're coming from - worrying about what the neighbours think!! I am so paranoid about it! I'm sure it all sounds far worse than it really is and sound travels so easily from our houses!! My two are soooo noisy & one of them is usually screaming or having a tantrum about something or other! Then there's me & Dave yelling! I swear they will call DOCS on us one day!! I feel like we've become that house in the street with the feral kids that are always being yelled at!! We don't really yell at them all the time, but it feels like it at times!! There is certainly a LOT of noise that comes from this house!!

I'm so sorry to hear about your brother & his wife. It must be such a difficult thing for them (and your family) to be going through. I know it seems so unfair that you have beautiful, happy, healthy children when they are going through this, but please don't feel guilty about it. I have a very close friend who was pregnant at the same time as me and she lost her bub at 13 weeks. I felt so awful knowing how hard it must have been for her to watch me continuing my pregnancy, while she grieved. I hope they will succeed very soon in having the family they want & deserve. :hugs:

I hope you go all right until your dentist appointment. I am in some serious need of a LOT of dentistry (I know I need at least 2 fillings and one of my back molars broke a couple of weeks ago! It's not painful, but it has a sharp edge that's annoying), but we don't have private cover & I just cannot afford it!! I was considering getting private cover until I get the work done then letting it lapse (HCF has waived waiting periods until 30 June, which would be handy) but I read their terms & conditions & I think that you can't waive the waiting periods for pre-existing conditions - not sure if I'm reading it correctly, or of that would apply to dentistry though? It's all too confusing!

Renee, congrats on getting all your assignments done!! You are a superwoman!! Especially while you've been so busy at work too. Wow!! Only 14 weeks to go!! Not long! That will just fly!

Lou, lol at Maddi & her Clag!! At least she had the sense to stop when she discovered it was rather disgusting!! That is great you were able to leave Maddi at your friend's place while you ran some errands. We were at a friend's the other day and the kids were all playing out the back, so I asked her if she'd mind if I ducked out for a minute to check my PO Box (which is not far from her place). She said no worries, so I sneaked out. I was sure Owen would crack it as soon as he realised I was gone, because he was being sooooo clingy, but apparently he never noticed! Claire did ask her once where I was & she just said I'd be back in a minute & Claire went right back to playing (but she is normally pretty good with me leaving her now). So are you guys going skiing? I love the snow!! It's the ONE thing I miss living up here!

I love your Maddi pics on facebook too! She is just so cute!!! She is so gorgeous as a fairy!! Did you do the face painting? (I can't remember if I asked that before, or if it was in the post I lost - sorry!!)

Poor Maddi & her accident at the creche!! We went to a birthday party on Saturday and Claire tripped over & smashed her mouth onto some paving. :( She has a fat lip now too.

I hope Maddi has fun at her dress up tomorrow (with all the other kids this time!!)

Blah for auditors!!! I used to hate having to do all that when I was at work! Such a pain!

Anna, so sorry to hear about your friend & her husband. Sounds like she has an awful lot on her plate right now. You are such a good friend to help her out! As for the photo hosting sites, I pretty much just put them all on facebook now. Saves emailing them to people! We have XP too, I wonder if the posts deleting has something to do with it?? Actually, I'm pretty well convinced it's just me hitting the wrong key on my keyboard!! I am still not used to the smaller laptop keyboard!

Glad to hear your dinner went well (and that you treated yourself to some wine! I have to say it was called for!) Bummer about losing the prize cheque though!! Grrr!! How frustrating about the ironing board! Bargain on the steam station though!

Cath, awwwww!!!! How cute about Will & his "more holiday" :laughing: Glad you guys had a great trip! Your photos were great! Thanks for sharing!! I love Paddy's Bob gumboots!! Your boys are both looking so big!! I love that one of Will in the pram!!

Ooooh!!! Naughty Will for breaking the glass!! What is it about kids this age throwing things?! Claire is doing the same thing & has been sent to her room a few times for it. She threw a big, heavy book a couple of weeks ago & it hit me in the jaw, just missing Owen's head. I was sooooooo angry!! (It really hurt!!) She didn't throw it in a temper or anything, she was just standing at the couch reading it & I was lying on the floor with Owen and when she finished reading it, she threw it to the side & I just happened to be there. I kind of feel bad that I got so angry with her about it, because I'm sure she had no idea what she'd done! But she throws things all the time & I've no idea how to drum it into her that it's not on.

I'm glad you're happy with your hair now! Good luck finding a decent hairdresser for your next cut! So annoying, isn't it?!

Ange, WOW!! Your extensions sound massive!!! I would LOVE to have a sewing room! How great is it to not have to pack it all up every time? I'm jealous!! How cute about Seth in your bed!! You're doing so well with your sewing! Not long til the wedding now! Yes, I wouldn't mind a Mondeo too - they're nice!! Actually, I have serious new car envy!! Every time someone I know gets a new car, I want one too!! I'm a sucker for shiny new things! :D Hey! Well done about Seth going to the toilet all by himself & at his effort in putting his pants back on (even if his undies were back to front!!! lol)

As for us, well it's been go, go, go here!!

Claire has been pretty much just in nappies & hasn't done much more in regards to TT. The other night I forgot to buy nappies & I only had one left, so that went to Owen & Claire had to make do with big girl knickers (much to her irritation!! She so did NOT want to do it!) Anyway, I went to the shop in the afternoon, leaving the kids with Dave, bought nappies, came home & made dinner, we ate, and then after dinner the kdis were playing in the lounge room for a bit. Claire all of a sudden turns around & announces she has to do a wee. I was like "Yeah, OK, you want the potty?" short pause.... remember she's wearing undies & no nappy, dash out to the toy room to grab the potty!!! She sat on the potty & did a wee, which was great, and then she did a poo as well!! YAY!!! We haven't really had a repeat performance though. She gets all excited & really proud of herself when she does it, and she gets so excited about picking out a sticker for her book, and she will tell me she's going to do it again tomorrow, but the next day if I ask her if she wants big girl knickers or the potty, she refuses to have anything to do with it.

Tonight she was in bed & said she had to do a poo & I asked her if she wanted to do it in the potty & she said no, but she wanted to do it in the lounge room. She is just the queen of bedtime delaying tactics at the moment, so I told her she could do a poo on the potty in the lounge room, or if she wanted to do it in her nappy, she could stay in bed. She chose to do it in her nappy, but then when I went to change her, she said she wanted to use the potty. (More delaying tactics!!) But I want her to want to use the potty so I let her sit on it. She was trying so hard to do something, but she really didn't need to go. She didn't want to get off, but I told her she could try again in the morning after her bottle and she said she would. We'll see!!!

I do half joke sometimes that Owen will be TT before her, but the other day he actually did a wee on the potty!!! And he was so darn proud of himself!!! I was changing his nappy, and he kept fluffing & saying "Poo! Poo!" So I said to him "No way are you pooing on the change table!! If you want to poo, you can do it on the potty!!" I was only kidding, but then when I went to put a nappy on him, he wriggled around yelling "No!!! No!!!" and pointed to the potty saying "Poo!!! Mummy, Poo!!" So I plonked him down on it & he didn't do a poo, but a wee! I was surprised!

In other (non-toilet related!) news, my brother is getting married in October this year. Unfortunately it's on Claire's birthday (d'oh!) and is in Wollongong. I don't have anything against Wollongong, but it's so hard to get to from here!! There is only one airline that flies there and we would have to fly to either Sydney or Melbourne, then to Wollongong. And we'd have to drive to Brisbane to fly out. The other option is to fly to either Canberra or Sydney, hire a car and then drive to Wollongong. Whichever way we go, it's going to be tricky & expensive. Plus, we are probably going to end up needing to stay for at least 3 days, so Dave will have to miss out on work, and hence money (as he works as a casual). I haven't really discussed it with him so far because I know he is going to say he doesn't want to go & I will be annoyed!! We've still got a while yet to go, so hopefully something will pan out.

We had an AWESOME day at Australia Zoo last week. One of the Melbourne mods (TwoBlue) came up to QLD on holidays, so I took the kids to the zoo & spent the day with her & her family (photos on facebook!) It was such a fantastic day!! So great to meet Tracey & her family and the Zoo is just brilliant! Dave & I took Ashley there once when we first moved up here (5 years ago) and it has grown & changed so much since then.

We're off on a bit of an extended long weekend on Friday. Get back Monday. The kids & I are going to see a friend in Roma (QLD - not Italy, unfortunately!!) I'm really looking forward to it!

All righty! That's me all caught up!!! Took me forever, but it's done & I feel so much better for catching up properly! Now don't all go chatting up a storm while I'm away this weekend, will you?! lol

[hayleylea]

Fi :yelclap: - What a monster post! WELL DONE!!! Cooper has been in nappies for the last few days because we have been so busy and out and about. However when we got home yesterday afternoon he demanded undies so i said ok and he didnt have any accidents before bathtime so that was good. He gets mighty angry at me when i put a nappy on him for bed lol. I checked our your pics on facebook and the zoo looked like lots of fun. I REALLY want to go to Australia Zoo and plan on doing it one day. My brother has been in brisbane for almost 2 years i havent visited yet! Well done for Owen doing a wee on the potty! What a hassle about your brothers wedding. Oh well im sure you will work something out. Its hard when Dave is working casual to go somewhere...but id probably be like you and still be annoyed if he didnt come lol

I got up and "pumped" my boobs again this morning and have it ready for Shelley in her mag mag cup! Fingers crossed she takes it. She is still in bed. She went to bed at 8 last - good little girl! I thought she was waking up a minute but nope she is dead to the world again!

Better head off.

[Wivi]

Morning all!

I well and truly have the lurgy now and I am not impressed! I have to go to a work meeting today and have my photo taken for their new portfolio and I have the flu. Isn't it always the way? :laughing: Oh well, I guess I have an excuse for looking lousy - I have a newborn and the flu!

Fi -what a monster post! That's one fantastic effort. Thanks for all your comments too - I haven't given Levi any demazin - he's ended up doing ok with the panadol and the vaporiser so I have left it. I don't think it would actually help anyway now as it isn't his nose that is the problem. LOL about the "noise" in your house. I love your posts - they make me feel so normal. I guess I worry more because either side of our place is young couples with no kids so I think that they wouldn't really understand what it is like. I think we need a nice rowdy family to be our neighbours - one with some kids a few years older than ours with a nice Mum who can pop over and make me cups of T and offer to hold the baby! hehe - wishful thinking.

YAY for Owen doing a wee on the potty! Will used to do wee's about that age for a little while but the novelty wore off again fairly quickly. It's a promising effort though!

Oh - that wedding does sound like a right pain to go to. I live in fear that we will be invited to another wedding away from home in the near future (and it is a distinct possibility) as I have no idea what we would do! I hope you can work something out - especially so that Dave can go too.

Levi went a mammoth 11.5 hours last night without a feed but that did unfortunately mean he wanted to start the day at 5:45 am. So he has just gotten up from a 2ish hour nap (I had to resettle in the middle a bit). I think I just have unrealistic expectations of him - I was tearing my hair out yesterday and really I think I was being very unfair. He's not yet 8 weeks and I am trying to push him into some silly routine that probably doesn't suit him anyway. So I am going to try to relax a bit and go with the flow a bit more.

As for the mighty Will - he has really had his naughty pants on lately. I think it is just being 2 but I am going to have to get creative about some punishments I think. I detest little kids who whinge when they don't get their own way and Will is turning into one (probably my punishment!). On the other hand though he really is very funny and he talks like an old man. He cracks me up.

Before I go again (Levi is going to suck his hand off i I don't feed him soon) - I have to tell you all the other things that happened yesterday to make my day so nasty - I fell off a chair trying to get pasting stuff out for Will (very stupid I know) and hurt my wrist and I flooded the laundry when I was washing because I didn't know the tilers had disconnected the overflow pipe on the washing machine when they tiled the splashback! Oh and it got very warm in the afternoon and poor Levi woke up drenched in sweat because he was wrapped in a blanket!

I was so glad to see the end of yesterday!

[hayleylea]

Hi everyone

Tan - you sound like you had a bad day yesterday!! WOW on Levis sleep - thats just excellent Tan! Coopers also turned into one of them whingey whiney things when things dont go his way - its driving me round the bend lol. Lucky he is so cute and good the majority of the time! :laughing:

Whats everyone doing today? I ask because i really would like a hand cleaning up this pigstye of a house i feel like i havent done anything for weeks. So ill see you all by the end of the day OK?? Ah i wish lol!

Ok better get stuck into it

[MrsMiggins]

Hayles, that's really good that Cooper doesn't want to wear nappies any more (although I can understand that it would be a PITA sometimes!!) I bet he will be TT'd very soon now! How'd Shelley go with her EBM & mag mag today? Sorry - can't help you out with the house work - mine is worse than yours, I guarantee it!! lol

Tan, I had a chuckle when you said my posts make you feel normal!!! :laughing: How great that Levi had such a good sleep last night! Just a pity he woke up so early this morning. We had a bit of a shocker last night. Owen refused to go down for his day sleep yesterday (again!) so he was pretty wiped by dinner time. I gave them an early dinner & he was in bed asleep by 7 (very early for him). He woke up at about 1 (not long after I went to bed and had just started to doze off!) and didn't want to go back to sleep. I managed to crawl back to bed around 4, but Claire was in our bed by then & was a bit restless, so I didn't get much sleep.

Argh!! What an awful day you had yesterday!! I hope your wrist is feeling better today & that your laundry dried out. Let's hope today is turning out better for you!

I know what you mean about whiney 2 year olds. Claire does it a fair bit too (particularly when she doesn't get her own way) and it drives me crazy!!! I HATE seeing other kids do it, so yeah, I don't like having my own do it either!

We had our 2nd week today at a new playgroup we've been going to. It is so great!! (I wrote all about it last week in my post that I lost! :rolleyes:) Claire & Owen both really love it. It's only $5 a family - well worth it!

It's held at a church, in the section they would have for all the kids stuff. They have a full playground which is perfect for toddlers. It has a big slide built into a hill, a huge wooden cubby house, a sandpit, tyre swings, a water play area & a lot of space to run around. Inside, they have 3 different rooms. One that's full of babies' toys, playmats, a change table etc where mums with little babies can go if they need to feed, change - whatever, or if their bubs just want to have a bit of a play away from the toddlers.

Then there's another room with a couple of tables set up - one with paints, paper etc and another with playdough, rolling pins, plastic cutters etc. (they even have smocks for the kids to wear!) There are also things like dress-ups, a toy kitchen, dolls with prams, change station etc.

In the main room, they have a big carpeted area full of all different sorts of toys, games, puzzles, one of those big fabric tunnel things. and a big table set up down one end. It starts at 9.30 and the kids all have a play wherever they want & the mums have a chat. Then at 10am they ring a bell & all the kids go to sit at the big table & they do a craft activity. Last week it was greeting cards (with all the proper scrap booking stuff) and this week it was a fire engine made out of egg cartons.

After craft time, they give them morning tea - a bowl with a little vegemite sandwich, a couple of tiny teddies, a handful of sultanas, a piece of banana, a rice cracker, half a boiled egg, a slice of watermelon and some of those dixie drumstick crackers. They also get a sippy cup of apple juice.

The mums get tea/coffee/cordial, fruit, cake & sandwiches. This morning they even had marinated chicken wings - yummy!!

After that, they can play some more, then 11-11.30 is music & dancing. They also have a little parachute they get out & the kids run around underneath.

How good a morning is that for $5?!!

I better run. I sold some stuff on ebay during the week & I really have to get to the post office this afternoon, so I'd better get it all organised while the kids are sleeping.

[hayleylea]

fi - that playgroup sounds awesome!!! And $5 for all that is excellent!!!!

Yep i had success with the bottle today. She started on the mag mag cup but she kept stopping and starting so i tried the other bottle i brought yesterday - at tommee tippee one with the little bumps on the teats - she loved it!!!!!!!!!!! Only problem is it took her awhile to drink it and i think its because them no spill ones that its harder to drink out of. So today i got a normal tommee tipee teat (they are smaller then the advent oens which i think was more here problem she gags when they go in her mouth but the tommee tippee ones are just right!) Ill try again tommorrow with EBM - probably for the week or two just to get her use to the bottle before i put formula in it lol

Anywho gotta go we didnt do the house work today i sat here looked around and thought stuff it. PAcked the kids up and went into town and fed the ducks lol

Oh i forgot to mention that im incredibly happy right now - i have made my final decision about PNG and I AM NOT GOING!!!!!!! NO WAY! ill fill you in more when i have more time at my decision why not to go. Im happy about it though.

[bingo]

Fi, I'm moving near you. The playgroup sounds UNREAL! And your right $5 is cheap. Its so hard to find places where you can relax and sit back and engage in an actual conversation while the kids are otherwise safely occupied.
Owen sounds like he's going to give Claire a run for her money in regards to the TT. You can only hope it may spark a bit of that competitive fire in Claire and get her interested in the potty a bit more. What a massive post you did too. Good catch up!
Tan sounds like your day yesterday sucked. And its all the more worse with the flu. Nothing worse than being so sick and not only having you sick but the kids as well. Gone are those days of being able to go to bed to sleep to catch up and get better. I hope your photo worked out OK? Levi sounds like he's getting the hang of big sleeps. As for demazin I don't think Maddi had any until about 6 months. Before that we used the saline wash stuff. Personally we didn't have any success with it, Maddi would fight me so much and it would go everywhere except her nose.
Hayley, how did the magmag cup work out? I had to have a look on google to see what you were talking about and they do look really good.

I' am soooo happy this week is over. I just about crawled out the door at work last night. I guess I'll find out on Monday how the rest of the weeks audit went.
I got my eternity ring yesterday and I LOVE it. We ordered it a while ago and waited for it to get made and it came yesterday. My engagement ring is a white gold princess cut ring (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/engagementring.jpg)
and my eternity ring is a thin white gold band inlaid with 11 small princess cut diamonds. I can't stop looking at it!
Maddi's face has healed up ok and there is only a small amount of bruising on her nose. Thank goodness. Fairy day went well and she had such a good time. Although the fairy top I bought her from Cotton On left a lot to be desired. I washed it as per the instructions and all the glitter came off and now its a plain white singlet.
My parents are on their way tonight so Maddi is so excited. Speaking of which I better move my butt and keep tidying up or they will think I'm slack!

[bingo]

Just posted at the same time as you Hayley I think. You sound really happy with your PNG decision and thats terrific. Now I guess now you know what your doing you can forward plan and have some direction IYKWIM.

[cath]

Lou your ring sounds beautiful - you will have to take a photo and show us. Poor little Maddi and her face -it's so sad when they get hurt. I'm very impressed with her explanation of what happened though - she sounds like she is 5. Have fun with your parents.

Oh Hayley that must be a big relief for you to have come to a final decision about PNG. The whole thing would have been so stressful to go over there. I hope it all works out okay. Good to hear Shelley is getting there with taking milk from somewhere other than you.

Fi that playgroup sounds excellent! What a find. I hope you have a better night tonight. How impressive that Owen did a wee on the potty. Claire sounds like she is doing pretty well too. We are now putting Paddy in pull ups after his undie day was a bit of a disaster (2 wees and 1 poo in undies - he just thinks they are like nappies I think). We put him in undies after he woke up yesterday morning but after flooding the kitchen floor and just standing there and saying "look" as he did it Dean put him in pull ups which was a good move. We then put him on the toilet regularly all day and he only did a wee in them once between 9 and 5 which was pretty good.

Tan I hope your photos turns out okay. I hope you all get better very soon. Dean and I both have bad colds at the moment and he has taken yesterday and today off work. I feel like I have been hit by a truck and hardly slept last night for some stupid reason so am stuffed. You poor thing with your sore wrist and flooding the laudry - not a good day. Levi is doing very well with his night sleeps -great effort!

Anna how is Alex going with his teething? I hope you are getting some sleep now and then. Last night was the first night here in about 5 nights that one of the boys hasn't woken up in the middle of the night (and of course I only slept between about 2-4 and then 5-7 so annoyed!). I think Will might be teething too but am not sure. He has slept through the last 2 nights which is good but Paddy was awake at 2am on Tuesday night yelling out "mumma fix it" and I had to go in and fix up his doona and pillow (he was sitting up with his pillow in his lap and the doona all pushed down -crazy kid).

Anyway I'd better start organising some stuff around here. We are going to pick up Paddy from my parents and will be staying there for dinner soon (not really what we feel like doing but at least then we don't have to cook dinner). Chat soon.

[hayleylea]

yep im extremely happy with my decision. Trent still has to go for aleast a month or so but thats his decision. and now after all the wait for the visa it would be unfair for him not to go at all. Im really happy though about the decision i made and i really think its the best for my family. After much deliberation and talking to alot of the people from there i really think its the only decision for my family. Trent is a little dissapointed but can see where im coming from. So we will just see how we go but i think we will be OK.

Lou you wing sounds beautifull if i was you i would take that singlet back to cotton on! Ive actually got af ew things from there and havent been impressed.

Cath - Paddy sounds like he is going good in his pull ups. I tried cooper with pull ups but he wouldnt pull them down and sit ont he tilet because he said they were undies lol

gotta go. Trents in town all day making a dog cage for someone. Both the kids are bathed. And Coopers dinners just about cooked.

talk soon

[hayleylea]

hi guys

Its just Shelley and I today. Coops has gone to Nannas and Trents gone to sydney. Ive got lotso f house work to get through so i better do it while i dont have Cooper here.

Im still sticking by my decision about PNG even after having a mini melt down with Trent last night. Honestly i feel like im in such a bad position right now and i actually feel sorry for myself. I cant please anyone, so be it though i have to do what i think is right and not going is the only thing that feels right right now.


had a nice morning tihs morning. Cooper woke up at 7 i set him up on the lounge with a dvd and a drink and went and lied back down and 2 seconds later i hear the pitta patter of little feet and he climbed into bed and gave me and trent the biggest cuddles and kisses - he NEVER comes into our bed anymore hasnt for ages so it was nice.

I expressed some milk today and tried Shelley again. Not as much as yesterday but she still took the bottle. Mind you should wouldnt be as hungry cause she had a feed at 5am.

Anyway better get to it.

[MrsMiggins]

:hugs: Hayles. I think you should stick to your decision because you sounded as though the weight of the world had finally left your shoulders when you made it. It will be difficult being away from Trent, and him from you guys, but once it's over, it's over and you can both put it behind you.

So nice about Cooper & his cuddles!! Claire comes into our bed every morning! More often than not long before first light. Although last night I had to go & get her around 5am because she was sitting up in bed screaming & crying. When I went in there, she was saying something about a bug being on her ear! (She's a bit scared of bugs!) I think she just had a bad dream. I took her back to bed with us & she was quite happy.

Hopefully Shelley will have a bit more of her bottle once she is a bit more hungry. Have a nice quiet day today!!

Lou, your ring does sound nice!! Your engagement ring is similar to mine, only mine is gold & has a bezel setting. I'd actually have preferred a claw setting, but considering Dave picked it out himself, he did pretty well!! Does your eternity ring have 11 princess cut diamonds as well, does it? I wonder if our's are similar (only mine is yellow gold, obviously, to match my engagement ring)?

Cath, how is your cold going? I hope you're feeling better.

[hayleylea]

Thanks Fi, i will stick by my decision i just feel like its my fault my family wont be together because im not willing to take the risk of living over there. Had it been just Trent and I, I wouldnt even hesitate but now Shelley and Cooper are here..well its a totally different story. It will be hard doing it without him and It will be even more difficult for him not being with us but i guess we just haev to soilder on and get through it.

I have been very productive today. I have vacuumed, mopped, dusted, done 3 loads of washing, cooked a carrot cake, changed all the beds & cleaned Coopers bed! :yelclap: Just trying to get this washign dry now, folding it up as it drys (its in front of the fire cause the weather is crappy here). I feel good that ive finally got on top of all ht ehouse work and washing. Looking forward to a relaxing weekend lol

[cath]

Hayley it does sounds like you have made the right decision - ultimately you are looking after the best interests of your children. Hopefully the time will go quickly for you. When does Trent have to go? You have had a very productive day - well done.

Fi that's a bit sad about poor little Claire thinking there was a bug on her ear. Dean is currently sitting here watching Spiderman with Paddy and I swear he is going to have a nightmare tonight - he has a very concerned look on his face - Dean thinks it is fine but I'm not so sure. Dean and I still have the colds but are slowly improving. Dean is off to the Dr at 4:45 to get a medical certificate which is all a bit ridiculous but you have to obey the rules I guess (jsut seems like such a waste of Dr resources).

We've gone a bit backwards with the TT here. Paddy was at Mum and Dad's all yesterday and didn't wee once in the toilet or potty and hasn't done it here today either. It's so slack but some days I just can't be bothered with the effort of the whole thing and today is one of those days.

I took Paddy to story time this morning while Dean and Will stayed here and had a sleep. When we got home I got out some cool little dress up outfits I bought for the boys from Aldi yesteday but I was so annoyed because they were ridiculously small. I bought a dinosaur, a parrot and a turtle and 2 of them were meant to be size 2-3 and the other one size 3-4. The size 2-3 wouldn't even go on Will and he isn't even quite 1 yet for goodness sake (okay he is a big boy but still - not happy!). I will have to take the 2 little ones back and Paddy just fits in the bigger one but not for much longer and then it will have to go to Will. I thought they would last for a while and the boys could play dress-ups once Will was old enough to know what was going on -there goes that plan. I will just have to get some other stuff.

Anyway I should be doing something constructive around here so had better go. I have got lamb shanks cooking in the oven so that's one achievement but that's about it for the day so far.

[bingo]

Hiya!
Cath I got those outfits too and thought they were small. I bought the size 3-4 thinking they would be huge and they just fit Maddi. I took some photo's today, the dragon looks really cute!
dragon 1 (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/dragon1.jpg)
dragon (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/dragon2.jpg)
parrot (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/parrot.jpg)

[cath]

How cute are they Lou! Love the photos. They were the ones I bought too (meant to say dragon not dinosaur). Unfortunately they are the two I will have to take back and we are stuck with the turtle which is nowhere near as cool and only just fits Paddy. They are pretty good quality but obviously made for tiny children.

[MrsMiggins]

How CUTE!!!!!!!!

I wish our Aldi was open!! They're still building it (and taking forever!!)

How much were they?

[Wivi]

Hey there!

You guys have been chatty. I keep starting posts and then abandoning them to go and sort other things out but I've been reading along anyway.

Lou - your ring sounds lovely. We'll be married 10 years at our next anniversary - I imagine that entitles me to an eternity ring. Maybe if I start planning it now (it's not til Jan) then I might actually get one!

Hayley - I am so glad you have made a decision about the PNG thing. You sound much more settled with the whole thing now that you know what you are doing. A month on your own will still be tough though - I hope Shelley doesn't decide to start teething that month!

I'm a bit jealous of all of you who get nice cuddles in bed from your kids. If Will ever gets into our bed or I get into his it is only to play "hide and seek" - no cuddles unless I bribe him!

Hayley - you were very productive today. Oh - how easy it was to do housework when there was just one baby who slept a lot! LOL - that would be about 2 years ago now. Happy memories :laughing:.

Lou and Cath - how annoying about the dress-up outfits! That would have been so disappointing. Maddi looks cute in hers though.

Cath - don't get too disheartened about the TT. One day the light will just go in in Paddy's little head and then he'll be off! It must be hard to start it when you have another little one as well - I am glad Will seemed to click with it quite early cause there would be no way I could start now!

Fi - I am sorry Owen has been up in the night again. These crazy kids. They just don't understand the whole "it's dark - that means sleep" thing do they? I am so not looking forward to that with Levi.

We are all still coughing and snuffling along although Levi is pretty good during the day now. The rest of us leave a bit to be desired though.

I was so annoyed with myself today. Yesterday Levi was an angel and slept for hours for Troy (typical) whilst I was at my meeting. Anyway he was pretty good yesterday afternoon and went til 4am without a feed and when I gave him a bottle he protested a bit about the wrap. Anyway I have noticed that he likes to suck his hand so I took one hand out of the wrap. He sucked his hand for a bit and went to sleep that way so I thought that was a good plan. So twice today I put him down with one hand out of his wrap. Stupid - he went to sleep just fine but woke himself up both times by hitting himself in the head after about an hour. The second time I rewrapped him properly and got him back to sleep but I have learnt my lesson. He's too little to have his arm out.

I have to run - will be back latre. Troy swears Levi won't drink his bottle - he tells me this every night I swear!

[cath]

They were $17.99 Fi so not really cheap but they are really good quality (apart from being so bloody small). I love Aldi - hope you get yours soon.

Just saw your post Tan. Got to love those flailing newborn arms hey? I hope you all get much better over the weekend. Okay gotta go and help get these boys out of the bath. Chat soon.

[hayleylea]

Hi guys

Tan - It would probably be 3 months not 1 month - so im pretty sure there will be some teething along the way. I will be ok though i have plenty of support. 3 Month is what Trent thinks he can do...ill be quite suprised if he lasts that long but you never know. I know it will be tough (REALLY tough) but im pretty sure we can get through it.

Lou - them photos are so cute! Them outfits are great.I dont think Cooper would fit in them very long though if at all. He is pretty big!

Trent has to work for someone in town today so its just me and the kids (suppose i better get use to it lol) its FREEEEEEEEEEEZING cold here today and i dnot feel like doing much. Shelley was a bit unsettled last ngiht. Still not that bad but she woke once for a feed and once just to settle very unlike her. Then My dog was crying in the middle of the night for god knows what reason. Cooper was up at 7.30 and in our bed so i really cant be bothered doing a great deal today. I think we might stay inside in the warmth and make cubby houses or something like that to keep Coops occupied.

Anyway better go. Talk soon.

[hayleylea]

YAY!!!! WHOOOOHOOOOO! :smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:

Shelley just took over half a bottle of formula!!!! im sooo happy. I tried her with this formula before and she had a go at it too. Doesnt screw her face up so ill be going to buy a tin of it now. (was only using sachets). NAN 1HA Gold. Which is pretty expensive but i found a chemist here that sells it for 20 so thats alrgiht. Im not going to totally stop BF for awhile anyway just want to be able to give her a bottle here and there. Ill give her one every couple of days to start with I think, or maybe every day fora week so she learns to like it lol. Shei s pretty happy with herself right now so she must have liked it. Tan i think this is what Levi is on isnt it??? Is this the one that suppose to help them from not getting constipated? I hope so cause i hate dealing with constipation lol.

OK well im one very happy mummy right now.:flowerz:

[Wivi]

Oh - hooray Hayley! Yes- that's the formula that Levi has. I found it for $20 as well and it certainly made me happier than the original $25. That's so good that Shelley took it for you.

Well - Levi went the whole 12 hours last night without a feed and then proceeded to only have a stupid 45 minute nap this morning and I was not able to resettle him back to sleep. Maybe he wants to be a catnapper - I can't tell. He's pretty snuffly in the mornings so for all I know it has something to do with that. I am going out for a haircut today and leaving the boys with Troy for a few hours so he'll probably sleep heaps while I am away.

I am trying to get all my personal appts etc out of the way before June 30 as after that Troy will be really busy and it will be really full on around here. So for the next week or so I am going to be out a bit I think!

Will and I are still coughing a lot, Troy is on the mend and Levi just seems snuffly at the beginning and the end of every day.

I should go - need to hang washing out and play with my boys I guess.

[hayleylea]

Tan - i thought that was the formula that Levi was on. $20 isnt too bad i guess. Well done for Levi sleepign so much last night!!! I guess if he slept that much last night then a 45 minute is all he really needed this morning. Shelley is a catnapper, so was Cooper really! I dont mind aslong as they are happy while they are awake. 12hours at his age though is an impressive effort. Goodluck with the hair cut. I got mine cut the other day too.

Ok better head off. Ive just made a cubby for cooper and he wants me to play

[Wivi]

Oh Hayles - you give me faith. I was complaining to Troy about Levi's bloody annoying catnapping and then came on here and read your post.

If Cooper was a catnapper and he turned into a fantastic sleeper then that gives me much more confidence! It just means that Levi gets quite grumpy towards the end of the day I guess.

It's hard to know - especially at the moment as he is still phlegmy. I guess I just have to wait and see what happens over the next week or so as he starts to feel better as well.

Every day is different at the moment.

[hayleylea]

yeah Tan - Cooper was a catnapper till around 5-7 months (cant remember exactly) up until he was only having 2 sleeps a day. When he got to that stage he ended up having 2 really decent day time sleeps and still sleeping through at night. YOu just have to go with the flow each baby is different. Your doing a great job Tan - newborns can be such hard litle things to work out!

[Katcha]

Hi everyone. Hope you're all having great weekends. Just thought I'd give an update on what's going on over here. Don't know if I told you before but Katelyn's been pretty terrible sleeping since we've been back from holidays. She's been waking up in the middle of the night crying most nights & James has had to take her into the spare room to sleep with her there. (I can't go to sleep with her in the bed because she's a bad snorer....takes after her dad but she's even worse because it's a constant snorting all the time!) Anyway, we had her new bed delivered yesterday so last night she spent her 1st night in her new bed.....the cot's been moved into the spare room ready for the new bub. Anyway, she stayed in her bed all night & didn't cry, so hopefully that continues. :fingerscrossed:
Pregnancy's all going well....over 26 weeks now, and this little bub is certainly letting me know she's there, kicking & prodding me all the time!

Hayley, I'm glad to hear you've made a decision on the PNG thing. It sounds like you've made a good decision. Oh, & that's great news that Shelley's drinking from a bottle & drinking formula now. :yes:

Tan, sorry to hear you've all been unwell. Hope you're all feeling better soon.

Lou, that dragon outfit is just adorable! Maddi looks so cute in it. :D Oh & your eternity ring sounds lovely. I've always wondered when you're meant to get an eternity ring......I want one! :laughing:

Cath, you're not the only one with TT problems. I guess it's kinda mine & James' fault with Katelyn though. We didn't really bother with it while we were on holidays, so since we've been back she's only done one wee on the potty & really isn't that interested in sitting on it any more. :(

Fi, your playgroup sounds awesome...& for only $5 for the morning! I think we need to move near you. :yes:

OK that's all from me for now. I'm going to go back to looking around ebay.....just bought a new Dora quilt cover set and a 2nd hand Tweety flannelette sheet set for Katelyn's new bed on ebay last night, and there's a few more items I'm watching at the moment.

[Wivi]

Wow - it's been quiet in here today!

Hi Renee! Nice to hear from you and I am so glad things are going well with the pregnancy. It sounds as though Katelyn was really ready for the move to the big bed so I hope it continues to go well with you.

Well - Levi just likes to keep me guessing I think. After all my concerns about catnapping - today he was a big sleepyhead! Reminds me that every day is different I guess. Today he has also decided that he likes the dummy - how weird! I would say that 95% of the time he settles well without a dummy or anything but today he decided that he wanted it! I guess he still would have settled without it but I thought too bad - if that is going to make him happy and means he drops off quietly then so be it.

Poor Will is really not very well - I actually feel bad that I wasn't paying enough attention to him to notice before but I think his cold has developed into croup. He has this horrid cough and today he started to wheeze a bit. I suspect we will be off to the doctor tomorrow and in the meantime the vaporiser has moved from Levi's room to his.

As for me - I have been pretty sick too. I thought I was going to cough a lung up last night and this morning I ended up vomiting and then didn't eat anything again until dinner time. I think I might be on the improve now though.

I think I had a brain snap yesterday when I went for my haircut. I had it all cut off (never done that before) and had it dyed brown with some blonde foils in the top. I think it's ok - but the colour is going to take a bit of getting used to. Will was hilarious when I got home as well - he ran to the door when I got home and took one look at me - stopped and said "Oh!" A bit later he said "Where's your other hair gone?" and "What colour is it now?" He has been so funny - he keeps asking! I've just had this real sense lately of needing to start fresh and I desperately wanted to cut it cause it was so thick and boofy from the pregnancy.

When I am not so fluey I'll post a pic!

Gotta go and tend to my tomato soup - hope you are all well.

[MrsMiggins]

Oh wow Tan!!! Post some pics of your new hair!!! I wanna see!!! :D How hilarious is Will?!!! That is a classic!! I had all my hair cut off super, duper short a week before Owen was born & when Claire saw me, she just kinda looked at me through narrowed eyes as if to say "I know something is different here......." lol

:( Sorry to hear about Will's croup. I hope he sleeps OK tonight. And I hope you are feeling better as well. That's great Levi was so settled today.

Hi Renee!!! Great to hear from you! I love your new avatar pic! That's fantastic that the move to the big bed went well. Hopefully tonight will be a repeat of last night. Claire had always been a shocker before the move to her big bed, but from day one she has been so much better in it & a year on & she's still really good. Hopefully Katelyn will be the same!

Woo-hoo Hayles!!! :yelclap: Hooray for Shelley taking the formula!! How did she go today?

The kids & I had a fun day at home today. Bit short of cash, so I decided we'd just stay at home & do something fun here. So first we built a big cubby house out of sheets etc, then we made some pictures out of cut up paper & some sparkly things. Then I decided to bite the bullet & get the playdough ot of the garage!! I've had some put away a-g-e-s. I was going to give it to Claire for Xmas last year (it's a set with tools etc) but decided against it because I knew it would be a bad idea for Owen (both because I knew he would eat it & also because he was likely to choose mushing it into the carpet over actually playing with it!)

Anyway, I got it all out, and the tools & cutters etc were all great, but the playdough that came with it (not real playdough, just the cheapie stuff that came with the set) was a bit hard & crumbly. So I had a quick look on BH & found a great no-cook playdough recipe. I quickly whipped up a batch & it worked really well!!

We did end up with a bit of playdough in the carpet (despite my best efforts!!) but the kids both really loved it.

I have to go and upload some photos from the weekend onto my computer & FB. Have a nice night everyone!!

[Wivi]

Morning all,

Well - we had a good night's sleep so I don't think Will's croup is too bad. He was however awake at the crack of dawn again and I am not sure if it is the cough waking him up or that he has got into a bad habit of being awake sometime between 5 and 6am. We can convince him to go back to sleep til after 6 and then he can read some books but it's a little annoying.

Levi woke up at 1:30 which was a bit of a shock to the system after he has pretty much slept right through the past week. But he drained his bottle before going straight back to sleep and that made me think that I need to start making his bottles bigger again. I think he needs filling up! He's only just woken again now so that's ok.

I'll post more later - have to run

[Wivi]

OK - will now finish my post.

I am feeling pretty down today and will have to ask you guys for lots of support over the next couple of weeks. I am going to try to go to see my doctor today and probably get a script to go back on the anti-depressants I had after Will.

I've been thinking about it for a little while - but over the weekend just came to the conclusion that I can't deny how I feel. I know I've been obsessing about sleep again (I did that with Will), I am feeling anxious when I wake up in the mornings, losing my appetite, and fearing the times when Troy has to leave me with both boys - like when he goes to work. I could say more but that will do for the moment. I feel very disappointed in myself because I so desperately wanted it to be different this time and I've told Troy that I don't think I can have any more babies because I just can't do this again.

I'm also not sure I can tell my family at the moment given all the problems we have at the moment with my brother and his wife- they are really not doing all that well with the loss of the baby.

Anyway - that's all for now. Just wanted to let you guys know my decision.

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Renee - good to hear from you - glad to hear the move to the new bed went well. Great Avatar too.

Fi - what was the playdogh recipe? i wouldnt mind making some.

Havent tried Shelley on a bottle of formula again. i only had a couple of satches and had used them all up. I got a tin yesterdasy though so fingers crossed she takes it again today.

Now to you Tan :hugs: - Making the decision to go bcack on anti-depressants would have been hard for you. But the MOST important thing is that you feel OK about the decision. It doesnt mean your a failure or a bad person and although you wanted thigns to be different this time it doesnt matter that their not. Your a great mum, and your doing a fabulous job with Levi (and Will), and if the anti depressants can help you feel better then so be it. You have my full support Tan and you kow that im hear for a chat any time! Please dont be dissapointed in yourself. Sometimes these things are beyond our control, be proud of yourself that you can admit it, alot of people cant do that so you should hold your head high. Its not something you can control either Tan, just one of them things in life that happens and atleast you are doing something to help you out. :hugs: again ill be home all day if you need to chat.

I hope Will gets better soon.

OK gotta go Shelley is awake i better go get her bottle ready.

[cath]

:hugs: Bug hugs for you Tan. Best of luck seeing the Dr and with the anti-depressants. As Hayley says these things are totally out of our control and so unfair. Do not feel disappointed in yourself - it is totally random and there is nothing you could have done to prevent how you feel. You have been doing a fantastic job with your 2 boys and are a wonderful mother and always will be. You are full of love and care and they know that. It must be awful feeling anxious and not quite right and if you can get help to try and alleviate that then do it! We are all here for you anytime.

Your haircut sounds great! I hope Will's croup is okay and you are all getting better.

Fi isn't playdough in the carpet annoying! If Paddy is left unsupervised he breaks it all into tiny little pieces and throws it on the carpet - not good!

Hayley that's great that Shelley is slowly getting used to taking formula. Hope it continues for you.

Renee good to hear from you and I hope Katelyn continues to like her big bed. I can't believe you are almost in the 3rd trimester - that has flown!

OKay got to go for now but I will be back later to check in. Tan I am thinking of you - keep us up to date and I will be around this afternoon if you need to chat too. Look after yourself and it sounds like you are doing the right thing.

[hayleylea]

YAY Back in undies today and coops has done 2 wees on the big toilet!!!!:yelclap: Even a little poo!!!!!!

[hayleylea]

happybirthday HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANGE HAVE A GREAT DAY

:hugs::hugs::hugs:

[hayleylea]

i forgot to tell you all about my score the other day at good guys.

A month ago we got another lap top. And anyway they advertise that you if you find a better price you can take them the reciept and they will refund you 120% of the difference (within 30 days). We actually brought the computer from good guys. And the other day they had the same computer advertised for cheaper. So we went in their with the reciept and they checked it over and we were right ont he 30 days. They said yep fair enough and we got $75 bucks back so i got myself a deep fryer lol. Not the healthiest thing huh? but ive been wanting one for ages!!! I just unpacked it (Cooper is now having a ball with the box) and im cooking some chippies for lunch...I cant believe im excited about a deep fryer. Better watch my hips lol

[Wivi]

happybirthday Ange! Have a great day!

Hayles - you are having a good day aren't you? Cooper with the TT and Shelley with the formula! Enjoy those chippies - we'd like to have a deep fryer too. But that's more for some dutch food that you have to cook in a deep fryer - maybe it's better that we don't have it - I can see those kilos running towards me!

Thanks for everyone's kind words. I feel a bit better but as I told Hayley that is part of the problem. I feel awful when I wake up in the morning and slowly get better throughout the day - and then I talk myself out of doing anything about it. Now that I have had a chat to Troy and you guys in here I am kind of forced to do something about it. I will go and see my GP when Troy gets home from work this afternoon and see how we go from there.

Levi's catnapping is still annoying me - he drops off to sleep just fine but can't get himself past that first sleep cycle for some reason. I chatted to a sleep centre on-line this morning and they suggested that maybe I was keeping him up for too long (1.5 hours) and I should cut it back to 1 again. I don't know how that works but I am willing to try. It's especially hard because he actually puts himself to sleep really well and I thought an overtired baby made more fuss. The nurse did however also say that it might just settle down itself by 3 months.

OK I should go and finish making tonight's dinner - I have to make the meatballs to go in the soup.

[cath]

happybirthday Happy birthday Ange! How was your fun weekend?

Nice work with the refund and new purchase Hayley.

Catnapping is bloody annoying isn't it Tan? Paddy did it from birth until sometime after 12 months - 40 minutes or so goes way too fast and it feels like you have just put them to bed and they are back again. Good luck this afternoon.

I'm trying to track down my Mum to see if she can come with me to Ikea either tomorrow or Wednesday as there is a set of drawers that would be really good for the boys room and they are reduced from $400 to $250 but only for 2 days (which is so annoying!). They aren't even open late or anything in the next 2 days so it has to be done during the day and it is just physically impossible if I have the boys in the pram - can't load up and push a trolley and a pram. We have nowhere near enough storage for clothes in their room for 3 children and soon enough we will need it and these drawers look good so thought I might try and get them now.

Anyway Paddy wants to put on his turtle suit - better go. Chat later.

[cath]

Speaking of catnapping Will has just woken after 40 minutes and that will be his one sleep for the day - shouldn't have talked about it. Will is moving to one sleep a day I think which is annoying in some ways but good in others. I was sort of hoping he would be over 12 months before getting to that point but here is at 11 months (just like his brother) and ready to be up most of the day. He was not happy about going to bed on either Friday or Saturday night and cried for 20 minutes which was pretty awful. I think it was because he been having afternoon naps from about 2:30 - 4 and was then just not tired enough to go happily to bed. Yesterday he only had a sleep in the morning and happily went to bed last night. We've been out at Mothers Group this morning and he coped fine playing all morning then having lunch when we got home and going to bed after that but I was hoping for more than a 40 minute sleep. Oh well - some days he sleeps for ages so as long as I get some good sleeps now and then I am happy.

Mum and I are meeting at Ikea in the morning - haven't been for ages - quite looking forward to it - have seen a few things I wouldn't mind.

Okay better go again. Hope everyone is well. Anna how are you going? Not long until your Melbourne trip!

[hayleylea]

well guess what? Trents visa has come through which means he will be going any week :crying: I really think i might be needing your support over the next few months. Im soooooooooo upset right now i knew this was goign to come but i was quietly hoping it wouldnt.

i dont know how im going to do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cath]

:hugs: Oh Hayley that makes it all a bit real doesn't it. You poor thing. You do so well looking after Cooper and Shelley on your own quite a bit as it is - you are a capable woman! You will definitely need the help of your family in the next few months and we will be here for you as well (not that we can help you in the practical sense but we are definitely here for support).

I just took back the Aldi costumes that were too small. That's one benefit of one day sleep for Will - getting out to do 2 things in one day has been unheard of for a while around here. I got out early enough to beat the late afternoon traffic - yay.

[hayleylea]

Thanks Cath - yeah i know i look after them by myself most of the time either - but its just scary thinking that i might be doing it day after day for 3 months by myself without Trent here. Im having a really down day im so upset about it even though i have known its going to happen for so long. Ill have heaps of support but its hard because im not the one to ask for help either....mind you i think my MIL and mum and sister feel sorry for me so i dont think ill have to ask. My BIL said i could move in to their house for 3 months! lol i said no of course - My home is my home. Mind you ill probably visiting my mum alot.

Agh. Sorry for raving on and on about this guys - its my only release. I had a huge break down on the phone to my mum today which i havent done nearly the whole time to her cause i dont want her to worry...ah well ill get through it.

Better go. Shelley doesnt want to sleep this afternoon

[Wivi]

Oh Hayles :hugs:! It would seem so real now - I totally understand where you are coming from. Have lots of hugs with Trent over the next few weeks etc until things have been worked out. Maybe see if your sister can mind both kids for a few hours so you and Trent can go and do something special together as well.

Cath -thanks for the chat today about catnapping. I was looking at Levi late this afternoon and he really was the happiest little bub despite his short sleeps today and wondered what on earth I was worried about. I am actually pretty sure I am just getting the time wrong with when to put him down as we know somedays he does do big sleeps - so we'll just muddle along til we work it out. I hope Will managed to make it to the end of the day without too much of a meltdown - I can't imagine what my Will would have been like with only 40 minutes all day at 12 months! Actually I probably can - cause no doubt it happened and it wasn't pretty.

Well we had a "family" visit to the doctor this afternoon. All 4 of us trouped off and I had Will's cough checked, got Levi's needles and sorted myself out. Will's cough is a bit of a worry - the doctor said if it didn't get better in the next day or two to start some Ventolin and watch him for an increased temp and loss of appetite as he might develop bronchiolitis. Levi hardly even blinked when he had his needles and my GP was fantastic about my own issues. So I'll start the medication and go back in a week. Troy came with me to help with the kids and just for general support and it was good to have him there - I really felt supported.

OK - gotta go now. Chat tomorrow maybe - I have a busy day.

[Katcha]

Well, looks like Katelyn's 1st good night in her new bed was just a fluke. Last night was just a disaster! She just kept getting out of bed crying that she wanted daddy each time we put her back. Eventually James just had to go sleep with her so she'd stop getting up. I'm really not looking forward to trying to put her to bed tonight. :(

Ange, happy birthday. Hope you had a great day today! happybirthday

Tan, I hope Will's cough gets better in the next couple of days. Bronchiolitis doesn't sound too good. :no: Well done to Levi being so brave with his needles though! Tan, sorry to hear about your problems with PND. It sounds like Troy is being very supportive of you. :hugs:

Cath, hope you pick up some bargains at Ikea tomorrow!

Hayley, I'm sure you'll manage looking after Cooper & Shelley while Trent's away. It sounds like you've got pretty good family support to help you out as well. Oh, & well done to Cooper with his TT today! :thumbsup:

Fi, sounds like your little munchkins had fun with the playdough yesterday. How do you make it? I should try to make some for Katelyn one day.

OK, well I guess I better go & start thinking about getting Katelyn to bed.....I hope tonight goes better than last night. :fingerscrossed:

[cath]

Oh Renee sorry to hear bedtime is not going too well with Katelyn -not what you need at all. You are probably so tired by the end of the day a battle over going to bed is the last thing you need. Good luck with it all.

Tan great to hear you had a good appointment with the Dr and good luck with the medication. As long as Levi is happy during the day between catnaps then it may not be worth trying to "fix". It will probably all change again within a month anyway. Hopefully he learns to love having big day sleeps for you soon. I hope Will doesn't get any worse - poor little fellow.

Well Ikea was a bit of a disaster this morning - didn't get my drawers:no: We got there at 9:30 not realising it didn't open until 10 so we wandered around the other shops. In the meantime at least 100 people formed a queue for the drawers I went to get - unbelievable. By the time we got there at 10 we were at the back of a massive queue and had to cross our fingers and wait as it progressed only to be about 20 people from the front to be told they had sold out:hissy: By this time it was about 11 and we started wandering around Ikea but Paddy was being a nightmare and refusing to stay with us and Will was starting to crack it. We stupidly went to the toy department for a "quick look" where Paddy refused to leave some toy trains (which I had decided to buy anyway because they are really cool) so I had to carry him away and strap him thrashing and screaming into the pram and Mum had to carry Will to stop him crying. So not fun and I hardly got to look at anything. Man life with little kids is hard sometimes. I might try and go back on my own one night.

Okay Paddy is currently driving me insane - got to go.

[MrsMiggins]

Oh Cath!!!! You poor thing!!! What a frustrating morning!!! Man, I'd have been so peeved!!! Maybe keep an eye out for them appearing on eBay?

Renee, how did Katelyn go last night? The new big bed thing may just be a bit of a novelty for her & once the novelty wears off, perhaps she'll be better?

Tan, how are you going today? It was great catching up with you on msn yesterday.

Just a very, very quick one from me today because Owen is sleeping (after a completely HORRID night last night, thank you teething!!) and Claire is on my lap asking if she can type her name/play on the wiggles website/look at pictures etc. etc. etc...

Poor Owen! I feel so terrible for him! We've dosed him up with everything we can & every teething product known to man & nothing seems to be working. He just screams constantly, holding his mouth and occassionally saying "OW! Teeth!! Mummy!! Ow!!" :(

I had to change his shirt twice yesterday from all the dribble (and he's not normally a dribbler!) and he didn't have a day sleep at all. He's having a sleep now thankfully, but it was quite trying getting him down.

Hopefully he'll wake up in a better mood!

We've got a wedding to go to on Sat night & the kids aren't invited. The ceremony is at 3.30 & the reception at 5.30. Not bad times. I am thinking I'll probably have to come home around 8.30 or so & put Owen down for the night, but it depends on what time I can get him to have a sleep during the day. Thankfully the wedding is only about 20 mins drive from home.

[hayleylea]

a quick one from me. We have been otu all day..

just had to pop in and tell you Shelley is TEETHING!!!! :yes: you heard me correctly teething at bl00dy almost 4 months old. I can actually see the tooth under the gun, she is dribbling chewing everything and crying alot - poor little thing. I wonder what tonight brings :rolleyes:

Ok gotta go got heaps to do before bed time.

[Wivi]

Oh No Hayles! I hope that wasn't me mentioning it the other day that brought it on! Hopefully it won't cause too much grief for her. Hard to believe though isn't it? She is so little still!

Well I have had an ok day I guess. It started off pretty bad when I was throwing up and having head spins - the same thing happened when I started the meds last time. I have pretty much eaten nothing all day, but that should settle down I hope over the next few days. By lunchtime I wasn't feeling too bad, just not hungry. We had to go and sign our wills this morning and that was a meeting that I found really hard to concentrate in and then this afternoon I actually had a work meeting but I got through that alright. Levi just catnapped while we were out this morning but he had a good sleep for Troy this afternoon and then another little nap before his bath. I was annoyed that he slept well again for Troy today but then I remembered that needles always made Will sleepy so that was probably it.

I think though that Troy and I might be confusing Levi. Troy apparently never, ever gives him his dummy. Mind you - I don't think he is ever the one to put Levi to bed at the crankiest time - late afternoon which is usually when I give it to him. The last couple of nights I have given it to him at night- time too. I think we are going to have to make a decision whether we want him to have it or not as sometimes I put him down without it too. Usually in the mornings and then the lunchtime sleep. I'm hopeless though - I kind of think if he'll take a dummy and go to sleep quietly then I would rather that than crying. But then I guess I am just using another crutch and there were times when Will was 4-6 months that I hated the dummy cause we had to get out of bed and stick it in at night a couple of times. What to do, what to do! Think about it over the next few weeks I guess and decide before 3 months whether he is going to have it or not.

Cath - what an awful trip you had to Ikea! I think I would have seen the line-up and burst into tears and then left! Like Fi said- check out e-bay and see if any pop up there.

Fi -poor Owen and his teething. It must be so sad to have a little one come up to you and say Ow and indicate his teeth. That would break my heart. I hope you can work something out about the wedding too, it's tricky juggling kids and social events isn't it?

OK - better go and try some dinner. I don't relish the thought of taking a tablet on an empty stomach.

[hayleylea]

OK back

Cath - Ikea sounds like a nightmare!!!! Sorry you didnt get your draws!

Tan - goodluck with the dummy decision. :) Sorry to hear your feeling sick! hopefully you feel better soon!

Yeah i cant believe Shelley is teething. Cooper was 4.5 months when he cut his first one..but this is just a little early. she is actually quite upset today keeps crying when she is feeding etc. So i gave her some panadol. Poor Cooper started bursting into tears a little while ago because she was crying so bad (she isnt a cryer so he doesnt hear her cry very much and thought it was rather distressing!) I have a feeling my little girl sleepign through might be on hold while this tooth makes its way all the way through. I can see the white oh so close to coming through so hopefully it comes through quickly.

Anyway off to eat some icecream!

[Katcha]

Evening all. Well, bed time didn't go well last night either. Katelyn just started screaming when we tried to put her to bed & calling for daddy all the time. In the end we just let her fall asleep on James & then he had t carefully transfer her into her bed. She woke up later on & crawled into bed with us. :rolleyes: She's asleep in bed now, but once again we just had to let her fall asleep on James & transfer her to bed that way.

Had my ob appointment today & he had a look at bubs on his u/s machine & I got him to check to see if bubs still looked like a girl & yep, he said she definitely had girl bits! All seems to be going well so far. I have to have that diabetes test in a few weeks though....not looking forward to drinking that sweet stuff though. :barf: Oh did any of you get nose bleeds during pregnancy? I've had a few over the past 2 1/2 weeks. Same thing happened when I was preggers with Katelyn & I think it was around the same time. It's worse this time though because I'm on aspirin, so the bleeding's taking even longer to stop than last time. I was up for an hour last night with a blood nose. :no:

Cath, sorry to hear your Ikea trip ddin't go well & that you missed out on getting the set of draws you wanted.

Fi, poor little Owen & his teething. I hope he's better tonight & you get a better night's sleep.

Hayley, OMG, Shelley's teething already?? Poor thing. I can't believe she's nearly 4 months old already!

Tan, I hope the side effects from the meds settles down for you soon. It doesn't sounds very pleasant. :hugs:

Well that's all from me for tonight. I should think about getting ready for bed now. Night all!

[MrsMiggins]

Hi guys

Just a little "poor me" vent today!!

Owen is a shocker!!! I seriously need to trade him in!

Last night, he didn't go to sleep until 3am (yes, that's THREE in the MORNING!!!) and then woke up screaming again at 6. Took me an hour to get him back to sleep & then Claire was up! Sooooooo tired!!!

And now he's in there screaming his head off, refusing to go to sleep!!! :hair: I just don't know what to do!! I'm seriously considering taking him to the Dr and just demanding she give me something stronger for his teething pain - either that or a sedative (for me or him!! Don't care which!! :laughing:) I've got them booked into the creche at the gym this afternoon, so he needs to have a sleep or we won't be able to go. It has been such a LONG time since I've been & I really feel as though I need to start going again.

[cath]

:hugs: Oh Fi what a nightmare. What is going on with that beautiful boy of yours? That is not enough sleep for anyone!! I hope he went to sleep for you this afternoon but it sounds to me like you need a lie down on the couch rather than heading off to the gym. I will be very impressed if you go. I really hope he has a much better night tonight.

Sounds like the sleep fairy needs to visit your house too Renee. Sorry to hear that the bed hasn't fixed Katelyn's sleep problems. Wishing you lots of luck for tonight too. How exciting you got to see your baby girl again. I never had nose bleeds during pregnacy - sounds annoying.

Hayley you have early teethers don't you! That jsut seems so soon. I hope Shelley was okay last night and is happy enough today. That's beautiful that Cooper was upset by her crying. Will was crying about something this morning and Paddy came out with "Will needs a tissue" and went and got one and came over and swiped Will's tears - aren't they beautiful boys.

Tan you poor thing with the nasty side effects of the medication. Sounds pretty awful. How are you feeling today? You mentioning wills has reminded me that Dean and I really need to do one - we don't have one which is probably not good.

Okay better get back to the dusting. I've avoided it for a fortnight and now my stupid lip has gone all red - for some reason the dust in this house makes my top lip go all tingly and then it goes all red - so horrible.

[bingo]

Ah I'm so behind in posts! I'll try my best to catch up but I don't think I'll do very well.
Ange - Happy Birthday for the other day. Sorry I missed it. Hope you had a great day and got lots of cuddles from your boys!
Tan, don't be disappointed in yourself for the PND. Its not like you can control it or prevent it, and you've done everything in your power to try and do both of those things. Its been a tough few months for you too with Levi not taking to formula too well and having a toddler sick. As well as your brothers family going through a very emotional time. I hope Will is better and the medication that you've started is not making you feel too ordinary either.
Hayley, I was holding out hope for you that Trent wouldn't end up going to PNG so you wouldn't have to tough it out for 3 months. It will be tough times on your own, and with the 2 kids but it sounds like your family is ready to try and fill the gaps. Trent better ring you every night! Has he got access to the internet so you guys can web cam?
Cath, bugger about the Ikea sale. That place is busy at the quiet days let alone on one of their sale days. Its so frustrating when you have in mind what your doing that day then the kids throw a spanner in that plan.
Anna, how are you going? Whats news? I got your text the other day and I meant to reply but I don't know what happened.
Fi , the photo's from Australia zoo look like so much fun. I want to go!!! It looks like you and Tracey had a good time.
Renee, love your new Av. Katelyn looks so grown up. I've just moved Maddi into her big bed from her toddler bed. My dad made it and its awesome. Its got a bookshelf built into the bed head and its really cozy. Maddi did chuck a wobbly about going to bed that night and I was a tad worried about her falling out as its quite high up. She is still having sleep issues but I'm working on it - slowly.

Maddi's got another bloomin' virus. She's had a high temp and I took her to the Dr today and yep she has a red throat and her adenoids are all pussy so its on antibiotics for her again.
We went away to Melbourne on the weekend while my parents looked after Maddi. We had a great time, went to the south melbourne market, Yum cha in the city, shopping at Melbourne central and out for tea at Southbank. Stayed in Sebel on the park and got a free upgrade to a king room. By the time bedtime came we were both stuffed and fell into a coma sleep! :laughing:Should have made it into a 2 night stay!

OK better go, my sick girl is wanting a playmate.

[hayleylea]

Lou - I was holding out on the hope Trent wouldnt go either.. I lucked out there - he cant really not do it now and it is somethign he needs to get out of his system. Im actually not too happy about it all. Im pretty down about it all to be honest. Yeah we will have web cam access i just think it was a really poor decision made by him without fully including me in it. Lucky i love him and im able to semi-stickby his decision (meaning ill let him go and do what he has to do but let it known that i dont think its the right thing). Please dont get me wrong im very supportive of him I just think the timing and everything else is wrong.

There will be tough times ahead with me being a "single mum" looking after the kids. But i have to look at the bright side of life and actually be greatfull its not me spending 3 months away from them. I know Cooper will have a tough time with it but im just going to be extra, super strong for him and we will get through it. I wont lie, im scared as all hell to be quite honest but i feel like if i break down then im not being a very good role model to the kids so ill be strong for them. IF trent can last the 3 months without us ill be quite suprised but then again i didnt think he would even go so i dunno. Coopers behaviour has been a bit to be desired the last couple of weeks, and im sure its all the stress and tension around the house...i feel for him so bad i wish i could wave a magic wand and make everything OK...I cant do that though, but i will try my best to make the best of the situation at hand. It sucks because its now left up to me and im scared that he will think im the "baddy" all the time. Agh sorry im rambling again.

sorry for lack of personals again. I might log off here for a few days and come back when i get my head together.

take care all.

[bingo]

:hugs: Hayley and lots of them. I can't imagine leaving my kids for 3 months, especially at this time in their lives. My parents probably see Maddi once a month and it blows them away how much she changes each time. It will be really tough for you to have to deal with the after effects of Trent leaving. Especially Cooper, poor little guy is really going to miss his daddy.
Hopefully Trent will miss you all so much that he will come home early. Its so terrific that you are being so supportive of Trent and in a way letting him do his thing. The timing does suck but it sounds like he's really determined. Nobody can ever accuse you of being selfish and holding him back Hayley.

[hayleylea]

Thanks Lou - i know i said i was going to stay away for awhile but i had to thank you for your posts and hugs.

I am somewhat supportive but i guess i just thought that Trent would love us enough to stay - its hard knowing that that wasnt the case. IM not saying he doesnt love us cause i know he does but i guess I was just hoping i was enough to change his mind. Stupid thinking i knwo but so much going onn in my head right now i dont know what to think! Agh. I really need to knock myself over the head or something! lol

thanks for listening girls.

[Katcha]

Fi, sorry to hear Owen kept you up for ages the other night. I hope you had a better sleep last night. :hugs:

Cath, we're all getting plenty of sleep at the moment.....we're just sneakily putting Katelyn into bed once she's fallen asleep, then she wakes up at about 1am looking for daddy & goes back to sleep once he pops in bed with her. I really wish she'd just be happy enough to go to sleep on her own though.

Lou, sounds like you had a nice trip away on the weekend. Yum cha.....I love that! :yes: Oh, that's no good that Maddi's sick again though. Hope she's feeling better soon.

Hayley, just sending some big hugs your way. :hugs::hugs: I hope that Trent decides to come back home after a month. I think that would definitely be way too long for me to be away from Katelyn & James....don't think I could do it. :hugs:

Well, nothing much to report here. I'm still at work, I was meant to have a nice cruisy day but have gained extra work from one of our other site's whose camera has broken down. Just looking forward to going to the shops tonight & eating out at the foodhall. There's this one place that makes REALLY yummy lamb shanks & the nicest mashed potato ever....think that's what I'll be eating tonight! :yes:

[hayleylea]

thanks renee - we will see how long he lasts. I couldnt stay away from my family for that long but there are alot of dads that do it....not my ideal set up!!!! hows the pregnancy going? is james going to do another stayat home dad this time?

gotta go be back soon

[Katcha]

Pregnancy's all going well. I'm feeling great apart from the occasional nose bleed & the reflux.....reflux isn't nice. Yep, James is gonna be SAHD again....he's looking forward to it. I'll stay home until bubs is 4 months old then he'll go off for as long as he can as parental leave, then after that he'll decided whether he's going back to work at all or just going back part time.

OK, finally finished here at work so I'm off to the shops!

[hayleylea]

Renee - reflux doesnt sound like fun at all. I meant to say that i didnt get nose bleeds during my pregnancys (i was too busy throwing up lol). Thats great that James is going to be a SAHD! My cousins a SAHD and he loves it!

anyway Cooper i better go put Cooper to bed. Trent and him didnt get home till 7 and i gave him a bath, fed himand put him on the lounge and before i knew it he was asleep! So i gotta carry him to bed. Trent had to go back to town to help a friend with something.

Anyway better head off.
Night guys.

[cath]

:hugs: Oh Hayley a million hugs for you. I would be very upset about the whole thing too. I really hope that the time goes quickly for you and your family help you out heaps. How is Shelley going with her teething?

Lou your day/night in Melbourne sounds excellent (very busy but lots of fun). Where did you go for dinner? Poor Maddi being sick - I hope she is okay. Paddy has a really nasty chesty cough and woke at 1am last night struggling to breathe and trying to cough but just choking on all the stuff in his poor little chest. It was so sad - he was really upset and saying "mumma kiss it" because I always kiss where he hurts himself. It broke my heart not to be able to make it better and I was really worried about him and didn't go back to sleep until 3am and then woke again at 5 worrying about him. Amazingly he woke up happy as anything and apart from this nasty cough seems okay. I made a Dr's appointment for Saturday morning (the first one I could get at our normal clinic -crazy!) and we will decide if he needs to go then.

Renee hope you are enjoying your shopping trip and those lamb shanks. Have you started thinking about names for this baby - I hope it is an easy decision for you. That's good that at least once you get Katelyn to sleep she is okay (apart from the middle of the night visit required - not so much fun).

Anyway just a quick check in. I've had a busy day shopping and cleaning (you know - the fun stuff) while Paddy was with my Mum's (he was not interested in staying home at all) and Dean will be back in a minute with our healthy dinner of chicken and chips. Chat soon.

[hayleylea]

Im soooooooooooooo tired today girls so bare with me if my post doesnt make sense lol.

Shelley had her first play up last night. I dont think its anything to do with teeth or anything, i think her mind was just going 100 times and hour thinking of rolling over! She rolled over from her tummy to her back yesterday and she thought she was so clever. I put her on her belly again and she kept trying and trying god love her. She kept crying out and id get in there and she would smile and throw her hands about! She woke at 9, 12.30 and i didnt get get her back down till 2.30! and she woke again at 5 and i got him back at 5.30 she is still in bed.

so having a quiet day in today i could go to playgroup out here but i really cant be bothered.

Cath hope Paddys cough is better!

talk soon

[cath]

OMG - I am pregnant again!!!

I am totally spinning out. We seriously had sex once in the last month and I am pregnant -so amazing!

This was not the plan but I am still excited. Baby would probably be due around the end of February which somehow seems really soon. Will is going to be 19 months - still such a baby! Oh well - we'd always said we wanted them close and this is close.

Okay got to go and get my head around this and Paddy wants me to pretend to be a dinosaur. Chat soon.

[hayleylea]

:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:
CONGRATULATIONS CATH!!!!!!!!! HOW EXCITING!!!!!! SO HAPPY FOR YOU GUYS!!!

[Ange&Seth]

OMG Cath - what a spin out :laughing: Congratulations!!! I guess the cosmos is ensuring you DO have your kids close together and that's pretty cool :smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:

[Katcha]

OMG, Congratulations Cath, that's fantastic news!!
:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:

[Wivi]

Cath - Woah, that's big news! What a surprise - you have really blown me away! Congratulations, you are such a great mum with your two boys - a third baby will be just beautiful.

Hayles - sorry to hear you had a rough night with Shelley. It's funny how they go all strange when they start achieving big milestones isn't it? Give Shelley a couple of days and she'll probably be rolling everywhere and sleeping like a log again.

Renee - glad to hear the PG is going well. The reflux is not fun is it? I had it with both mine - but much worse with Levi and I hated it. No MS though so I guess that was the trade off. I am glad you have found a way to manage Katelyn with the big bed - I guess she'll settle down soon enough, and it's great that she settles well with James.

Cath -I hope Paddy is feeling better today. Will's cough is getting better here but the sad news is that Levi has it. It doesn't appear to be bothering him too much - but it's sad hearing a little baby cough! So it was the vaporiser for him last night. But - amazingly, he slept from 7:30pm last night to 7am this morning! I heard him coughing through the night but he didn't yell out or anything so that's pretty good. Because he hasn't been sleeping all that well during the day I have been squeezing 5 bottles into him before bed, although probably at least 2 of those he only drinks half - do you think he would still sleep through with 4 full bottles? That's all that Will ever had and I am curious - but hesitant to change it.

As for me - I am not doing so well today. I had to increase the medication dose last night (as per the plan) and today I have felt really ill with the dizziness and the nausea. I know it happened last time too but it's not supposed to happen - they are not the usual side effects. I am crappy with medication though - I always have some drastic side effect. Hopefully it will settle down very soon again.

Well - I think Levi has decorated his nappy for me so I had better go and clean it up. Hope you are all having a good day.

[hayleylea]

lol i dont think she will be rolling everywhere for a bit Tan - she hasnt managed to do it again today but has tried very hard.All new to me cause Cooper was 6 months old when he first even attempted to roll! Im not really sure what last night was about i just hope it doesnt repeat itselft tonight. I shouldnt complain she wasnt screaming down the house or anything like that! She just wanted a cuddle, cant really blame her really cause sometimes i just feel like that in the middle of the night LMAO.

Sorry to hear your not feeling well Tan. Hopefully tommorrow you will feel OK again.

Im feeling like a bit of a ditz at the moment! We have a digital set top box for AGES and ive only just realise that we get ABC2 which has ABC kids going all day!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant believe it. In times of need when i needed Cooper to just sit and be quiet it would have been great. He isloving it today - having a very lazy day today.

Anyway i better go and see if Miss Shelley wants to have a sleep yet. I swear she would stay awake all day if i let her! Im trying ot get Cooper to have a nap too. I have him on the lounge with his blanky pillow and ted. He said he is going to have a sleeep so we will wait and see! I might get a nap too! Mind you im over feeling tired now.

OK better go see if i can catch these "tired" signs.

talk soon

[MrsMiggins]

Just popping in really quickly - was just planning on quickly catching up & posting later but WHOA!!!!! CATH!!!!! How exciting!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations!!!!!!! :smiliedance:

[cath]

Thanks for all of the congratulations. I think I have my head around it now and have booked in with my Ob. and have been out and bought the pregnancy vitamins. They have just re-opened the hospital I went to with Will in a brand new building a bit closer to us and I am hoping to go there but am waiting to here if I can or not. My Ob. has decided not to deliver there because it might be a logistical nightmare for him if he has a woman in labour but his receptionist said he might consider it as I will be a booked in caesarean. I hope so - I love new carpet (and I know that it very important when consdering hospital care:laughing:).

:hugs: Oh Tan your poor thing - how awful feeling naueseous and dizzy. Not what you need at all - I really hope it wears off soon. It is so sad hearing a tiny baby coughing - I hope both your boys are better soon. How well is Levi doing with those overnight sleeps - fantastic!

Hayley that's a bit rough that you were up most of the night with Shelley - it is always a bit of a shock to the system when they spring that on you after sleeping through. I hope you have a better night tonight. How exciting she is rolling already - it is so much fun seeing each developmental step. Will has been pulling to standing this week and is practicing this skill at every given chane. I found him in our room standing at my sidetable playing with the alarm clock before - too cute.

I've been over to a local bargain shop and found a heap of cheap PJ's which was great and there was a Superman top with a cape that was part of a PJ set for $5 which Paddy is currently wearing - he loves it and looks so cute. I bought a pair of summer PJ's that are Batman ones with a cape for $2. Now Paddy (and Will) has a Spiderman,Superman and Batman suit -he is all set to save the world.

Anyway better go for now. Chat soon.

[bingo]

:smiliedance:Congrats Cath! Thats so exciting. :smiliedance:

[hayleylea]

OMG i have 2 styes in my eye! Yes no jus one, 2 and my eye is so sore and swollen i can barely open it! I have one in the top left and the bottom right side. OUCH!!!! :crying:

HOpe you all have a great weekend! Im going to be busy most of it...be out and about both days.

[Moorish]

OMG! CATH CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
:yelclap: :goodvibes: :bee:


That's so exciting! I have tummy trembles just reading your post!! 19 months is a lovely age gap - Chelsea & Nicola are 19mths apart and they get along really well.


Well even though Shane and I are still discussing #5 or not - doesn't look like we'll be having one just 1 day apart Cath! (Unless there's something I don't know about me yet! ;)) I still find it crazy that Paddy & Immy and Will & Alex are only 1 day apart in age :dizzy:.


Oh MAN!!! Lou you thought you had enough posts to catch up on - I haven't had a proper 5 mins to sit and do anything the last couple of weeks.
I'll have (read: DEMAND) time this weekend for sure to read-all-about-it and post properly (stand by with a coffee!)


Tomorrow I have my friend's two daughters again for most of the day while she has appointments. My car will literally be full - all 8 seats occupied! Imagine that! We have to drop Nicola off at a party, then take Shane to soccer, I need to duck into Salamanca to pick up some fudge for Tracey for when I come to Melb (7 DAYS GIRLS!! :goodvibes: - any requests from Salamanca while I'm there??), then race back to get Nicola, pick up Shane again and come home. Wow - I'm already tired. Anyway, I'll manage - it'll be fun! lol!


Ok I'm off to bed - sleep tight everyone, it's freezing at the moment!


xoxo

[Wivi]

Oh my goodness girls - Will has decided that today is the day for NO MORE DUMMY! He has a bit of a thing for clocks and this morning I said to him when he was looking at our digital clock next to the bed that he could have a clock in his room if he threw his dummy away. The next minute he says "I'm going to throw my dummy away today!" We asked him if he was sure and he said "Yes. I want a clock - like a big boy". So Troy and Will have been out shopping and bought him a digital clock and have now set it up in his room and Will went out and threw his dummy in the bin. (The big bin - outside). He did then say "and now I get another dummy out of the cup" but there are no more dummies and we told him that and he said "ok". So - the dummy is gone - we'll have to see how it goes. I am sure there will be some dramas for his day sleep and tonight again - but it's gone now and I refuse to buy any more!

As for Levi - he still has his cough and it is very sad. He coughed his little heart out last night but he still slept through from 7pm til 5am this morning and then went back to bed til about 8:15. I put him back to bed at around 9:20 and he was asleep for a little more than an hour before he woke himself up coughing and with a burp. He still hasn't gone back to sleep but I am persisting - I might be doing the wrong thing, but this catnapping thing doesn't suit me at all. So I am going to try to get him to sleep longer at least some of the time. Hopefully it will improve with persistence.

As for me - I still feel rather yuck but I guess it is a bit better than yesterday. It's probably not the greatest time for Will to give up his dummy (stress-wise) but once we get over this hurdle then at least I won't be thinking about it anymore.

Hayley - you poor thing with your sore eyes! I hope they clear up soon.

Alright - better go. Have to hang out some washing.

[Wivi]

Well - he whinged and cried a bit for about half an hour or so and then decided to take an extra toy to bed with him but Will went to sleep! Without the dummy! I was all set for no day sleep today and a lot more fight than that. I am ecstatic - he did tell us at one point to "go and get the dummy back" :laughing: but it seems he has given in fairly easily. We shall see what tonight brings.

The other son, well, he is the king of 1 hour sleeps. He has had 2 of those since 8:15 this morning when he woke for the day - but when he wakes up it is with this high pitched squeal that doesn't sound very pleasant. I hope he doesn't have a sore chest or something from coughing. I've just put him down again after holding him upright for a while - I am hoping he goes back to sleep but I don't like my chances one bit.

Hope you are all having a great day!

[cath]

Anna I thought of you when I found out I was pregnant. It's going to be a bit sad this time doing it on my own without my baby buddy having her baby a day either side of mine (unless you have a surprise too as you say). Good luck with those discussions about number 5. So soon now until you are over here and we get to meet up -can't wait. Sounds like you had a buys day planned - that must take you so long to get everyone in and out of the car. I am quite happy about the 19month age gap between Will and baby 3 now. It means the 3rd baby won't be so left out like it might have been if it was much younger than the other 2 and should play well with it's older brothers once it is old enough. It does always sound like Chelsea and Nicola are great friends. Paddy and Will are becoming great mates and it is so cute watching them playing together. Paddy is always callling out "come on Will" while he runs around the house and soon enough you hear the thump, thump of Will crawling to follow him - so cute.

Oh Tan how great about Will and the dummy :yelclap: Sounds amazingly easy enough - well done! How gorgeous he has his own clock - love it! I think Paddy would be up all night pressing the bloody buttons - he is always mucking around with our clock radios. I hope Will has gone to bed okay for you tonight. Poor little Levi and has cough - so sad. Paddy has a terrible cold now and looked and sounded terrible today. We had him in bed at 6:15 because he just would not rest today even though he looked totally stuffed. I wonder if he will even rest in the day again - I am thinking not - not even if he is on his deathbed I don't think.

Hayley how annoying about the styes you poor thing. I hope they go away quickly.

Okay - Will has woken up screaming and Dean isn't having much luck settling him. I think he might be getting the cold too. Better go.

[bingo]

Wow Tan you've made getting rid of the dummy really easy. I don't think I'll be having the same success with Maddi and her dummies.
Hayley, how are your styes in the eyes? Is there anything you can do for them or do you just wait it out? I've only had one once and I only remember it was really painful.
Cath, I didn't get time to post properly the other day. You've just blown me away with your announcement. It seems like just yesterday for me that you just had Will. How far along are you and do you have an EDD yet?
Anna, Immy looks so cute with her Shrek head gear on. As for the market could you just pop it all in your pocket and bring it on over :laughing:. How is your friend going? Is she coping ok with her separation? Hope to hear from you soon!
I'm still yet to organise the weekend your coming up. I'm so angry at Tony today I won't bore you all with it tonight. Something along the lines of hockey (yes bloody men and their sport). My parents are still up visiting, my poor mum is so sick with the flu that I'm pretty sure she got off Maddi :(.
Alright better go, I'm off to bed for an early night.

[cath]

:laughing: It feels like I just had Will yesterday for me too Lou. That has been a bloody fast almost - year and I am a bit blown away that I am pregnant again myself. My due date according to the calculator is the 24th of February but I ovulate later than normal so I think it will actually be at least a week later than that but then I will be having a caesarean again at 38-39 weeks so it probably will be around the 24th of February I am guessing (how's that for complicated). I did another test this morning and got the line again. I still have 4 tests in the drawer (bought in bulk cheaply off ebay) and said to Dean I am going to do them all because it is the last time I get to see that pink line appear (tragic hey but I just love seeing that line appear and it is drumming into my head that I really am pregnant). He thinks I am nuts which I probably am a bit.

Oh I really hope you can make it to Melbourne next Sunday -it would be so much fun. Your poor Mum. There is some nasty bug going aroudn that is for sure. Dean and I still haven't shaken the bad colds we got almost 2 weeks ago and Paddy is so sick with it now. I hope your Mum and Maddi get better soon and noone else in your family gets sick.

We managed to get Will back in bed by 8:30 and just watched a movie that is probably going to give me nightmares (Mr Brooks - has anyone seen it - movie about a serial killer - not very relaxing?). Anyway I should head off to bed. I've been sleeping badly because of my stupid cough and waking up thinking about being pregnant (and Will was awake at 4:30 this morning and took an hour to get him back to sleep). Oh dear - there's poor Paddy coughing. He is so good and mostly goes back to sleep. Hope everyone has a good restful night.

[hayleylea]

Tan! WOW well done with getting rid of the dummy! We are currently trying to get rid of the "bot bot" (bottle). Havent had much luck yet but making progress. He usually has a drink before bed but now he just hangs his bottle next to him. He still has a morning bottle though and sometimes one through the day - he will give it up one day (maybe :laughing:)

Well my eye is even worse today. Its hurting so bad! Hopefully it will get better tommorrow. I have some cream here that should hopefully clear it up.

Not sure whats up with Shelley after her bad night the other night the last 2 nights she has woke at 12 with a really really really really sad cry, she has been easy to get down and thats been her only wake up but its so sad. And she keeps letting out little crys during the night aswell. So bad that i go to ge up o her and when i get in there she is asleep. So maybe it is her teeth? I thought she was teething then i thought she wasnt but now im not sure what to think. Ah well She didnt wake till 6.30 this morning (after her quick midnight wake up) and she went straight back down after a feed and is still there!

Anyway Shelley just woke up so i better go.

[MrsMiggins]

Just quickly poking my head in again. Dave has taken the kids to Woolworths to grab a few groceries because I was whining that I can't get all the clothes put away with the kids clamouring all over me!!

OK, they're back! gotta run!!

[Wivi]

Well, hmm, last night was an interesting one without the dummy for what I think was the first time ever for Will. I swear he has had it since he was born. He grizzled a bit when he was going to bed but actually lay down and went to sleep without any dramas at all. But he was yelling out at 12:30 and wanted his dummy back. I reminded him that he threw it away and he had his clock now and he said "I don't want the clock - take it back to the shop! Get my dummy back" It was actually really hard not to laugh at him and after a cuddle he lay down and went back to sleep. He did the same thing at 5 with Troy and was wide awake by 6am but I think he didn't do too badly all things considered. He is however unimpressed today and currently fighting his day sleep even though he is very, very tired.

Levi still has his horrible cough - but managed to sleep all night til 7am this morning. Considering he had very little sleep yesterday (especially in the afternoon) I guess that is not that surprising - he had to be exhausted.

Cath - how funny that you want to do all those PG tests. That's cute - are you going to keep all the little pink lines? I hope Paddy is better today.

Hayles - I hope your eye gets better soon - sounds painful! Poor Shelley - sounding sad in her sleep. Will used to cry out a lot but was still asleep - it always bothered me.

Well - I had better go and give this boy a cuddle and see if he will lay down and go to sleep.

[Wivi]

Gee - where is everyone? I'm going to just keep chatting away to myself then.

I am so proud of Will. He went to bed last night with barely a mention of the dummy - went straight to sleep and we didn't hear from him at all until 7 this morning! I can't believe how much he has had me conned over the past 2.5 years. Little monkey. Ah well - no more dummy now.

Levi is still coughing a lot but he slept right through from 7pm til 7am last night again. I am so amazed that he can do that. I am not expecting him to keep doing it but I am just loving that he has done it 2 nights in a row! He actually stirred at 6 this morning and I gave him his dummy while I went to the toilet - but by the time I came back he was asleep so I left him to it. He woke again at 7 and we started the day! The next truly amazing thing is that he went back to bed at 8am and he is still there now! I had to pick him up and give him a burp a little while ago but other than that he is sleeping, sleeping! Woohoo! He CAN do it!

As for me - the mornings are still quite rough but I am usually pretty good by 9am - hopefully it will continue to improve.

OK - going now - maybe someone will pop in her and say hi today!

[hayleylea]

:wave: - thought i had better Hi to you Tan. LOL. Glad to hear everything is going so well with Levi and Will!!!! YAY for giving up the dummy - after all the stress it cause you even thinking about giving up the dummy im sooooooooooo glad he did it without any troubles! Well done Will!!!!! Levi is sleeping well too.

Shelley has been a bit of a bugger for the last few nights. She keeps waking up screaming at around 11pm. She settles pretty quickly and doesnt wake till around 6-7 but lets out a few crys during the night. I dunno whats going on. Still not totally convinced it is her teeth. I shouldnt complain though - i mean 11-6/7 is pretty good anyway!

We just built Cooper a fort/cubby house - its got a slippery slide and a climbing net - its so cool! he is out there playing on it now. I think its Trents way of trying to think its OK to leave us here, by doing all the things he said he was going to do. I mean im really impressed with all this but i dont think it means is OK for him to leave us...but im not going to go into that again!

We had a busy busy weekend not getting home till 6 oclock each night im looking forward to having a few days at home i know that much!

Anyway i better head off.

[Wivi]

:laughing: Hayles! Thanks!

Cooper's little fort thing sounds very cool. He has the best playground out there on your little farm!

Well, Will whinged for a grand total of 5 minutes today before he went to sleep for his arvo snooze and I think most of that was just playing silly games with me. I can't get over how easy it was to get rid of his dummy. Because it has been so easy I am more than happy to give Levi his now and he is currently snoozing away in his cot with it stuck in his mouth. Although he is a bit hit and miss - nine times out of 10 he doesn't want or need it. But it is a good back up!

Hayles - I had a chat with you on MSN about Shelley and waking up. There could be a million reasons why she is doing it. Hopefully it is just a little phase and she will stop again soon.

[hayleylea]

Tan - yeah thanks for our chat. Like i said im not to worried. She is only up for around 15-20 minutes max so its not that bad. Plus when she does get up at around 6 she then goes down for another 3-4 hours so i probably shouldnt complain!!!


Yeah Coopers fort is very cool. Ill have to get a photo of it!

Anyway i have done no house work today and really should hop to it!

[cath]

Hi there,
Hayley Cooper's fort sounds excellent - I bet he loves it. Sorry to hear Shelley is waking up in the middle of the night - hope she goes back to sleeping overnight for you again soon. How is your eye?

Tan that is so good that Will is coping without the dummy and that Levi is sleeping so well for you. I hope you continue to feel better and the nausea and dizziness disappear.

Paddy and Will now both have colds and I am stuffed after not sleeping properly for about 2 weeks now. I have had insomnia the last 2 nights and not fallen asleep until about 3 so only had 3-4 hours sleep the last 2 nights - horrible. I so hope I sleep tonight - I am so tired.

It is so grey and cold here in Melbourne which is not helping my tiredness - I am sick of winter now. Anyway I should go and ring the pub we are going to on Saturday for Will's birthday party to make sure it is all still okay. Hope everyone is well.

[hayleylea]

Cath - i hope your colds get better! And i hope you get a decent night sleep tonight. Insomnia is so annoying isnt it!!!!

Shelley is in the bubble blowing stage at the moment- so cute! She blows them every chance she gets. She loves her toys at the moment too...she got so upset yesterday when Cooper was eating yoghurt. She was watchign him and getting so excited (think she thought she was going to get some loll) she was opening her mouth and trying to grab his hand the spoon was in - hillarious!

Anyway Coopers asleep on thel ounge and Shelley is just about due for another sleep.still havent got far with the house work - oh well theres always tommorrow :laughing:

[hayleylea]

Well im pleased to announce that Shelley went to bed at 7.50 last night and didnt get up till 6.35 for a feed. Had a 15 minute feed and went back to bed and is still there!!!! Im glad she was such a good girl i thought she had forgotten how to sleep through :laughing:

Just me and the kids today, Trent has to help his uncle fix a truck and get Coopers sand for his sand pit(thats under the new fort we built him). Not sure what we are going to do today....i feel like doing something fun.

I got the invitation to Ange's wedding yesterday! :smiliedance: So that was pretty exciting!

[Wivi]

Hayley - I am so glad Shelley slept through again for you! It's nice to know they can still do it isn't it? I hope your eye is much better today.

Cath - have you ever tried Valerian for your insomnia? I have used it a few times and it works great for me. It's a natural product - you just get it where the multivitamins are in the supermarket. I understand totally about the horrible colds - my head is still all stuffed up from mine and I have this shocking cough that I think might need some antibiotics to shift it. I have to go back to the doctor today about the anxiety so I think I'll get her to check out the cough as well.

Will has gone to daycare today for the first time without his dummy. I don't think there will be a sleep there today, but that's ok as he usually only has about 30 minutes when he is there anyway. He has been so funny lately - he is trying to learn how to hop. It just cracks me up - he ends up jumping and twisting around on the spot, it looks so funny. He is really into dancing at the moment too - but he certainly isn't gifted in that way! No rhythm at all - much like me really!:laughing:

Well Levi was the perfect sleeping baby yesterday, he had 2 x 3 hour sleeps and then another hour or so before I got him up for a bath - he was in bed by 7 and didn't get up til about 7 this morning! Admittedly - we did poke his dummy in at about 5:30 but he went back to sleep so that was all very exciting. He went back to bed at around 8 and he is still there now! I just said to Troy - he is either really, really sick or he is getting better and has worked out how to sleep properly. Either way - I loved it yesterday, it was so much easier to get anything done!

Gotta go - need to run off to spotlight to organise some curtains for Troy's new office.

[hayleylea]

Tan - WOW what a fantastic Sleeper Levi is!!!!

Im actually stunned at the moment. Cooper is asleep! fell asleep about 15 minutes ago - rather early for him to have a day sleep (if he does have a day sleep at all) Poor little mite hmust have been tired. Shelley is up though. Currently enjoying tummy time and trying to roll over. She just did another EXPLOSIVE poo and we ended up with poo all over her clothes. YUCK

Anyway i better do some cleaning up while Coops is asleep Talk soon

[cath]

Poor Will is so sick with a nasty cold and has been asleep since 3:30 and it is now 5:40. I just went in there and put the light on dimly but he is sound asleep. Poor bubba. It feels cruel to wake him - don't know what to do. I think I will just leave him and he can just go to bed late. Poor little man needs the rest I guess.

Paddy will be home any minute after being with Dean's parents which was so helpful today.

Oh damn here he is - will have to come back later.

[hayleylea]

Cath - i hope Will gets better soon. poor little man! :hugs:

[cath]

Hi there,
never made it back last night. I tried to go to bed early because I was really tired but Will woke at about 10:30 (after going to bed at 8 with no dramas) and was inconsolable until midnight. The poor little man was so unwell and all worked up and just wouldn't stop crying. I finally got him to sleep by whispering "twinkle twinkle little star" to him as I patted his back in the cot -he was just exhasuted by midnight. He woke again at 2am which I knew he would and I didn't end up getting to sleep until 3am again -so over it.

Tan I will remember about the Valerian - I wonder if you can take it while you are pregnant/breastfeeding? How did Will go at daycare -did he sleep? What a legend is Levi with his sleeping - that was a huge sleep effort the other day - must be growing. How are you feeling today - are you gradually feeling better?

Hayley how funny about Shelley wanting the yoguhrt. Soon enough you will be mushing pumpkin again - the first 6 months flies I reckon and soon enough you are preparing meals for 2.

It's a grey day here again today. I probably should go out and do something to stay awake but the boys are sick so I might stay home. Okay better go for now. Chat later.

[Wivi]

Oh Cath! Sorry to hear that Will is not well. It's hard when they are sick isn't it? I always find it hard to know what to do - there were times when we just had to lie down with Will because he was so miserable - and yet it felt so wrong cause I didn't want him to think that was how he was going to get to go to sleep if he wanted! As for not going out - I was just saying to my Mum this morning that poor Levi hasn't been anywhere for weeks because of this horrible cold - he needs some exposure to the outside world!

Well my funny little Will did have a sleep at daycare yesterday - in fact he asked to have one! But apparently he cried when he woke up and he never cries at daycare. I think they weren't really sure what to do when he cried! It's the one problem we have had with giving up the dummy - he's a bit unhappy when he wakes up and wants a cuddle. He's also not too happy to stay in his room and read books in the morning like he was before but I guess that will soon settle down again.

Cath - I did a search on whether you can take Valerian when PG - it says to use with caution as there haven't been any reliable studies done on its safety. So I guess that probably means no. I'm sorry!

Well - Levi seems to like this 12 hour sleep thing at night, he did it again. We usually have to give him a dummy at around 5-5:30 as he stirs then but he goes straight back to sleep and this morning I actually woke him at 7. I am impressed.

OK - gotta run while both boys are asleep.

[hayleylea]

Cath = hope you have a better night with Will tonight.

Tan - glad Levi is loving his big night sleeps. Shelley is back to sleeping well over night so im pretty pleased about that also.

I spent the day crusing around Big W looking at the toys lol. Im sending Trent in early and the morning to layby a few things. I actually prefer the target catalouge over the big w one (we dont have a Kmart here GRRR!) So ill wait for that one. Im not going to be getting them a great deal this year. They have far too much stuff and they get WAY too much off everyone else. When i got home i then shoveled loads of sand into the sand pit for Cooper. We left his shell filled with sand at our flat and he has missed it so much!

I put some pics of the new fort/cubby on my website.. They really look so spoiled its excellent though - no parks around here either so i guess we have to make one in our back yard lol! the building in the back is actually the cubby that we started building. We are goign to finish it as a place to store all his out door toys etc cause the weather stuffs them all up! The yard looks like a bit of a bomb site because we havent got that far yet. Still waiting for the grass to fully grow but its getting there!

Anyway i better head off.

[cath]

Tan you have a new user name!! I was cleaning up my PM box and had some from Wivi and I was thinking -"who the hell is that?". I love it - very cute. That is excellent that Levi is sleeping so well and truly amazing that Will has a sleep at daycare. Poor little fellow being a bit sad when he wakes up. Paddy cries if he falls asleep in the car during the day and is then woken up to get out and it takes about half an hour to stop the tears - sad!

Hayley that fort looks fantastic!! Such a cool thing for little kids. How did Trent go at the sales? My initial plan was to go to the KMart one and layby Christmas present but we don't get our catalogue until Sunday (which is ridiculous -the sale has already been on for 4 days by then) and I haven't had a chance to grab one from the store and when I looked online it was a pain to look at. I would have gone tonight but Dean has gone to his parents to set up their new media PC so I am giving up and will wait until the Target one and hopefully be more organised.

Anna is coming to Melbourne on the weekend and we are meeting on Sunday for lunch:smiliedance: So exciting. Hopefully Lou can come too. How cool will it be to finally meet. I so hope we all get to meet up one day - it will probably be in about 10 years time by the time we all stop having babies but I bet we will do it.

I had a crazy day with Paddy today (well the part of the day he was with me) and I now think he might have an ear infection poor little man. He cried from the minute he woke up until the minute we finally got into the car to go and meet my Mum at a cafe this morning (which was almost 2 hours - man it takes a long time to get myself and 2 kids fed and dressed and stuff packed up and into the car -drives me nuts!). It was sort of silly crying with him saying "go see Nanna" over and over and I just had to keep replying "I'm working on it as fast as I can". When Paddy cries he constantly says "tissue,tissue" and wants you to dry the tears as they fall so this obviously doesn't help when you are already doing several other things at once. I was going insane. A couple of times during this crazy time he said sore ear and asked both Dean and I to kiss it so I started getting suspicious. He was totally happy as soon as we were in the car on the way to see Mum but she rang in the early afternoon saying he wasn't too well and she thought he had a sore ear too so she bought him home early. It's back to the Dr for us tomorrow.

Poor Will is still really sick too and is now quite wheezy which is a worry - I will be getting him checked out tomorrow too. The bloody Dr will probably charge me $100 again! When I went on Saturday he checked Paddy out and said he had a common cold and there was nothing we could do (which I sort of knew but we had the appointement anyway so I got him checked over) and then he printed off a referral for me for my Ob. (did not check my blood pressure or anything - just printed off a bit of paper) and I was charged $102!! One charge for Paddy and one charge for me. So ****! We were in there 10 minutes for goodness sake. I got a big $68 back from medicare today. Man it is expensive to see a Dr. There are hardly any bulk billing clinics around here and they are all impossible to get into and the clinic I go to is walking distance which is great so I will probably have to stick with it.

Anyway that's probably enough of an essay for me. Oh one last vent of the day is that my brother and his girlfriend seem to have forgotten about Will's party on Saturday as he has told my Mum that Rachael is going away for the weekend and he will be busy making his CD the whole weekend(he is an aspiring musician). Mum replied to the email she got informing her of this asking wouldn't they be coming to Will's party and she hasn't had a response. I would say he is thinking a big "whoops!" and trying to work out what to do. Nice one!

Hope everyone is well and I will chat soon.

[hayleylea]

Cath - good to hear from you, not good to hear your 2 boys are still sick though! How cool that you are catching up with Anna (and maybe Lou!).

Trent went good at the sales, got everything I wanted. I actually prefered the Kmart sale but we dnot have one anymore! I got Cooper the big front end loader, and Shelley the Peek-a-boo play dome (for xmas). And the MIL and my mum a digital keyring photo frame thing ($20 - bargain!). Thats all i got from that sale. Waiting for Targets to see what ill get him for his birthday - i have no idea what to get him. Big W opened at midnight. Trent had to go working today so he got there around 6.45 and there were heaps of people there, but he managed to avoid the huge line up for layby. My sister got there at 9 and was in the line for 2.5 hours. The staff were handing out bottles of water and lollies aswell - toy shopping sure is hard work! :laughing:

Cooper has been hillarious with the big w toy catalouge. He thinks its great. He knows they are the toys santa brings and he has read it about 1000 000 000 times i reckon. He was sitting on the lounge while i was in the kitchen doing the washing up talking to a "pretend santa" saying. "ummmmm I like this one, no not this one this is a girls one, get this one for bubby" it was SOOOOOOOOOO funny!!!!!!! he has slept with the catalouge the last 2 nights! LMAO.

We had a pretty good day today, the sun was shinging but it was still quite cold but we managed to go for a walk to the shop for lunch (just me and the kids - just to get out of the house). Then we went out and Cooper and Shelley had a swing on the swing set. Cooper didnt have a sleep today, and he still managed to keep his eyes opened till 7.30 im pretty sure he fell asleep as soon as his head hit the pillow.

Im going to make a doctors appointment for the 2 kids tommorrow. Shelley has to get her needles and Cooper has a rash on both his arms. Its not really rash it looks like a form of excma - so i want to get it checked out and see what they say.

Im not sure how Shelley is going to go tonight. She has been waking up crying in her day sleeps and then going back to sleep and then waking up crying again. She went to bed at 6.30 and i woke her up at 8 (otherwise she would wake up at 10 and want to play!) and she barely woke up, had a feed and is back in bed. We will see what the night holds. She has been sleeping fantastic of a night again but something tells me i might not be so lucky tonight.

Anyway ive blabbed long enough i better head off.

[MrsMiggins]

:yelclap: I love the new name Tan!! It is cute!! It kinda makes me think of "wifey" too! :laughing:

Cath, I can't believe you have to pay so much to go to the Dr!! That is just insane!! I wouldn't be able to afford to go. My GP - gratefully - bulk bills everyone. There are a few around here that do now. I thought most GP's bulk billed children at least. I'm sorry to hear the boys are both unwell. :(

Tan, that's fantastic about Levi's sleeps!!! I hope he keeps it up for you!

Hayles, that cubby is awesome!! I bet Cooper loves it & he & Shelley will have so much fun playing together in it very soon!

You guys are all so brave for even considering the toy sales!! I am refusing to go anywhere near there. I didn't even look at the catalogues until last night (BigW last night - Kmart today). I have to admit, there were several things I got a bit over excited about! Hence why I'm staying well clear until at least next week!!

Owen seems to be getting the last of his teeth through. Well, the last ones until his 2-year molars. I hope we get a bit of a break now. He has been teething pretty much non-stop since about 4 months old! :eek:

OK, must run. Sorry about the lame catch up, but I have several things to do before I go to bed & I was hoping to give myself an early night tonight! It's been a long while since I've had one of those!!

[cath]

:wave: Hi Fi -great to hear from you! Your catch up wasn't lame - any catch up is a good one. I hope Owen's teething definitely comes to an end for you for a bit and you get to catch up on some sleep.

Hayley that is gorgeous about Cooper and the catalogues - too cute! Paddy loves catalogues too but we hardly ever get any good ones. We do get the Kmart one (always late) but never BigW or Target -so annoying. Paddy loves looking through the Coles ones which is quite bizarre seeing as he doesn't eat:laughing:

Anyway I am meant to be filing the stupid photos. Back to it.

[Wivi]

Morning all.

Thanks for the comments about my new username! It's certainly a better one than TanandWill. I felt the need to include Levi - being the second child he already misses out on quite a bit of the fuss that Will had.

LOL about you guys and the toy sales. I actually forgot about them and I am pretty sure I threw the catalogues straight into the bin. Yesterday I went to KMart to buy a kettle for the office and a heater for Levi's room and I got there and thought - what on earth is going on here? What is that huge line-up for! :laughing: After about 5 minutes I realised and quickly got what I wanted and left. The line-up was for lay-by, the registers were surprisingly quiet.

Cath -i hope your boys are ok. If Paddy has an ear infection I imagine you might have had a rough night. They can be so painful. I hope little Will isn't too wheezy either. I can't believe how much you had to pay at the doctor! My parents have to pay that much but they live in the country and that is to be expected. My GP here bulk bills which I am grateful for.

Hayley - I think that is so funny about Cooper and the catalogue. Going to bed with it - how cute. I hope Shelley was ok for you last night.

Levi has been really unsettled the past couple of days - I don't know what is going on with him. He has only been having silly little naps and then screaming blue murder if we leave him in the cot. Thankfully he has still been sleeping well at night although early this morning we had to stick his dummy in a few times - I think he had those pesky arms loose again and was waking himself up. He has also been quite hard at times to actually get to go to sleep - maybe it is just a phase and one I certainly hope passes soon.

Will has had his mega cranky pants on too - I think it bothers him when Levi has a bad day - I guess cause we are running in and out of Levi's room and Will has to do quite a bit of waiting. So anyway - that's pretty much why I've been a bit quiet in here too.

Fi - lovely to hear from you! I hope Owen's teething comes to an end soon and that you are getting some more sleep.

Alright had better go.

[bingo]

I've been so slack yet again! I keep popping in to catch up and then have to get off the computer to do something else. I don't know why I'm so busy?
I'm hoping that I can catch up with Cath and Anna on Sunday. I was thinking maybe I would take Maddi down with Tony and have a weekend of it then I remembered that Maddi has her first Osteo treatment on Saturday that she's been on a waitlist for months. So I'll probably catch the train down for the day. My throat has been sore for about a week now and I keep waiting for the dreaded lurgy to start up like my Mum has had but so far so good. :fingerscrossed:
I've been getting back into my knitting, inspired by Ange's sewing and man is it hard work. I'm attempting my first hat on circular needles and I just finished knitting the brim when I realised it was all twisted and I had to undo it all :mad:. So I've started again.......I considered tossing it out of a moving car but I'm determined.
I had a sore tooth for about a month and finally made it to the dentist only to find out I'd cracked my tooth. I grind my teeth really badly at night and wear a plate to protect my teeth but obviously its not protecting enough. So now my next option is to go to a psychologist to help me break my habit. I've never been to one and I'm a bit nervous about what they will do or ask me?
Maddi has been testing me to the absolute limits these days. She has been so naughty and just doesn't listen most of the time. She's REALLY testing her boundaries and finding out how far she can push mum and dad. Sending her to her room is now losing effect as she loves spending time in there and just sits and reads. I am at the end of my tether with this girl. And to top it off her sleeping at night has gone up the creek yet again. Each night around midnight she crawls into our bed and sleeps there refusing to go back to her bed. I'm thinking of ringing the health centre and enrolling us into the sleep clinic for a weeks session. At nearly 3 years of age she is still having issues! (can you tell I'm peeved!).
We've bought a new car! Yep we finally decided that living with one car was too hard and it was time to bite the bullet. So we've gone and ordered a new X-trail. The end of year sales were really good and we got what we think is a good deal. It should be here in a couple of weeks.
Maddi has learnt to krump dance. She loves it and even gave her Daddy a goodbye have a nice day at work krump dance. Too funny.
As for the toy sales, yep I've been looking at the catalogues and oohing and ahhing and picking out bits and pieces. But I actually don't know what to get as I've already got a secret stash in the wardrobe from the previous year. I should really stock up for some friends kids birthdays and christmas! Have you seen that horse that kids can sit on? Its huge and costs about $300. I think that would give me nightmares!

Alright I better go, Maddi is kindly spreading her cheerios around and I better stop her.

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Fi - poor owen and his teeth - thankfully the teething is almost over for the little guy!!!! Oh and your comment on face book about it looking cold here - Your bl00dy right! its really really really cold!!!!

Lou - Coopers behaviour has been a bit to be desired latley (and the listening front aswell!) he has got a bit better the last few days though. I think his is more to do with not really knowing whats going on with Trent. lots of talks about him going away etc. He will be Ok though, We are tough!

Shelley as suspected woke up last night at 11.40. I gave her a feed, and popped her back to bed where she continued to goo and gahh and play around and eventually got the ****s at 12.40. So i got up gave her a cuddle and she went back down and didnt get up till 8 so it wasnt too bad.

Cooper has a runny nose but is happy enough. He has been riding around on his little trike (foot powered one) with Shelley in the trailer! HILLARIOUS! and Shelley just sits back like she is the queen!!!:laughing: There is a few pics on my website of it.

Anyway i better head off. I have so much to do and im still lazing around on the lounge!

[cath]

Hello there,
Hayley love the photos of Cooper and Shelley with the bike and trailer -hilarious!!

Lou how did Maddi's appointment go -what was that for exactly? How exciting about the new car -sounds great. I hope the sore throat is easing off and how annoying about your tooth. Are you going to go to the psychoogist about the teeth grinding? If it is in your sleep I imagine it will be something hard to stop. Hopefully I will be catching up with you tomorrow.

Tan I hope Levi is being more settled for you and you are feeling better.

We had Will's birthday party today which was really good. The pub worked really well and Will (well Paddy at this stage) got some really cool toys. We were going to give Will his presents from us this morning but have decided to wait until his real birthday on Wednesday -it would have been all too much today. Paddy had so much fun and was singing "Happy Birthday" to Will before we put them in the bath tonight - so cute. Paddy ended up not having an ear infection (he was fine the next day) but poor Will is still pretty sick with his nasty cold. Morning sickness has decided to rear it's ugly head (actually more like late afternoon sickness - it kicked in yesterday afternoon and I felt awful again this afternoon and felt generally a bit off all day). Oh well - can't complain too much - I know lots of people have it much worse than I do.

Okay better head off for now. Chat again soon.

[hayleylea]

Cath - glad that you had a good time for Will's party. Not so good that the morning sickness has kicked in - trust me you have all the sympathy and understanding in the world when it comes to morning sickness off me (or all day sickness or late afternoon sickness!) I hope it goes away quickly for you. Havent got any remedies unfortunatley!

We had a good day today. Went to some garage sales in the morning, then to the park for lunch. Then we went to the nursery to look at some plants for our garden. Ive decided to keep myself busy when Trent goes by trying to get our garden established and looking good - a bit of a hard and challenging task for me because im dont have the greenest thumb but it wll keep me busy!

Both the kids seem to be getting a cold - im hoping its shortlived! Trent put a fan on the roof that ducts the heat out of the lounge room through to the hall way where the bedrooms are and it works FANTASTIC!!!! Very impressed with that!

Anyway i better go Cooper is still up and he really needs to go to bed.

[Katcha]

Hi all, hope you're all enjoying your weekends. We just went out shopping today & got the new bub a car seat.....that's the 1st thing we've actually bought for her! I started to have a panick the other day realising there's less than 3 months to go & we hadn't got the car seat organised lol. So that's done now & I'm happy.

Lou, sounds like Katelyn & Maddi are pretty similar at the moment with their naughtiness & their sleep issues. There has only been one night since we got her new bed that she's actually stayed in there and not ended up dragging James off to the spare bed. And we just can't be bothered to try to make her go back to bed because she'll just scream & scream & we just want our sleep. She seems to be extra naughty now too, it just seems that she wants to make a big issue about little things like carrying on while I'm combing her hair & brushing her teeth, and I have to tell her to do things several times before she'll actually do as she's told, if she does what she's told at all. :no:

Tan, I like your new username. Took me a little bit to work out that it was you though, thought we had a new person i out group for a minute! :p Oh & well done to Will for getting rid of the dummy! :yelclap:

Cath, wow I can't believe Will's nearly 1 already. They're all growing up so quick! Oh, sorry to hear that the morning sickness has started. Hope it doesn't last too long for you. Do you know when you're due? Will you be having a dating scan?

Hayley, I checked out the new pics on your website. That is so cute Cooper driving Shelley around in the trailer! :yes:

Fi, that's good to hear that Owen's teething should be over soon, at least for a while anyway. Oh, I didn't bother with the toy sales either Fi. I didn't even look at the catalogues....I figure Katelyn's got enough toys all over the house already lol!

[bingo]

Yes I'm still here in Bendigo. Sick! So no catch up for me with Anna and Cath :hissy:. My sore throat has turned into a high temp and hot ears and I feel like a grumpy old lady. How miserable am I!!!

Renee did I miss something and you've found out the sex of bubby? Are you guys having a girl? How exciting if you are. A little sis for Katelyn :p. Yep, unfortunately Maddi and Katelyn do sound the same with the big bed issues. Although last night for the first time in ages she slept the whole night without stirring (touch wood). Its so tiring having a toddler who refuses to sleep!
Hayley, Trent is such a good handyman. He seems to be able to knock up anything and everything which is fantastic. The photo's of Coopers fort is unreal. What a lucky boy. He's also got some awesome Diggers in that sandpit. I think Shelley will need a pony to compensate :D. I love horses and my whole childhood was spent begging for one but as we lived in town there was no way that was going to happen.
Cath, I'm totally bummed out I can't come along today. But I feel miserable and infectious and I don't think you and Anna would like me very much for giving you this bug. I hope you feel up to it with your MS and its a lovely lunch. Yep I grind my teeth at night and have for a number of years. I have a mouthgaurd that I have to wear at night (super sexy for the hubby). But it seems its not doing the job. So the dentist recommends seeing a psych to figure out why I do it and to try hypnotherapy or something like that to break my habit or I'm not going to have many teeth left. I took Maddi to the Osteo yesterday and it went really well. Maddi laid on the table still and happy for the whole hour. I was gobsmacked and so was the Osteo. She said that her neck was misaligned and her nasopharynx (or something like that) too and that it probably causes a lot of chest infections. A lot of what she said made sense and Maddi actually slept al night long. I don't know if its coincidence? But we've got to go back in 5 weeks time so we'll see if it happens again.
Alrighty I'm off to lay on the couch and feel sorry for myself. Hope your all well and having a great weekend. Cath and Anna have a great time today!

[hayleylea]

Lou you poor thing - hope you feel better real soon!!!! YAY for Maddy sleeping through last night, I hope it continues for you!

Yep Trent is a real handyman, his just really talented when it comes to anything like that. I say talented because he isnt really trained in anything and didnt have a dad around to show him what to do. He just picks up everything. He is fitter/welder by trade but he does everything an electrician, plumber, fencer, - you name he will do it. Pretty lucky to have him around actually! He has taught me heaps of things too. I can plaster gyprock, do a bit of welding. He has taught me to use just abuot all his tools (aswell as Cooper lol)

This morning Cooper and Trent rounded the sheep up with the bike. We had to drench them all and put rings on the the lambs tails. It was absolutley hillarious. I took Shelley out in the pram to watch. Cooper just gets in amongst the Sheep with Trent picking up the lambs and throwing them inbetween his legs like Trent does. He was a natural at it. I can just seem him sheering sheep lol I took a whole heap of photos ill try and get them up on my website sometime today.

Lou - i can see Shelley asking for a pony. We have been thinking about getting a minature horse but ill leave it till one of them ask for it. Horses actually scare me quite a bit :o

Anyway hope Cath and Anna are having a lovely time.

I better head off

[Katcha]

Oh Lou you poor thing, sorry to hear you're not well. :hugs: Yes, it appears you must've missed it a while back when I found out I'm having another girl lol. Katelyn keeps pointing to my tummy & saying "baby sister". She also points to her own tummy & says it so I don't know if she really knows what's going on or not. Oh that's great that Maddi slept through last night. I hope it continues for you. :yes:

Hayley, Trent sure does sound like a great handyman to have around, and it's great that he's taught you how to do stuff too. :yes: Looking forward to seeing the photos of Cooper & the sheep.

Well, I'm about to head off now. We're going to the BIL's place for a late lunch & to see the MIL as well......fun fun....

Enjoy the rest of your weekend everyone!

[hayleylea]

Renee - hope you had fun at the IL's.

Just put some photos up on my website of Cooper and his sheep.

the afternoon was a disaster. Roxy got out of the yard (our fault because the gate wasnt locked properly and we had a pailing off the fence aswell. Anyway she got hold of the sheep :(. One of them was pretty bady hurt and shocked. And so was its mother. So we have them in the shed with some blankets (the mother is up walking around again - the baby is still struggling) and hopefully the lamb will get some strength tonight. Poor little things. Roxy is in BIG trouble and is currently chained up feeling sorry for herself. In all honesty she was trying to play with them but obviously being a big rotty playing for them was way too rough.

Anyway gotta go

[Katcha]

Oh no Hayley, I hope the little lamb will be alright. :(

The photos of Cooper, Shelley & the sheep are great. Cooper looked like he was enjoying himself helping out.

Well, we've just got back not so long ago from the BIL's place. Had a nice bbq & definitely won't be having anything for dinner.....apart from dessert maybe later on!

[cath]

:hugs: Oh Lou how sad you are sick and couldn't make it - it would have been great to finally meet up but I'm sure there will be another time. How cute is your new avatar! Where did Maddi get that done? How impressive Maddi was such a good patient yesterday and that's great she slept all night. Good luck with the teeth grinding - hypnotherapy could be interesting.

Oh Hayley - how awful about the poor sheep - not good. I hope they will be okay. How cool Cooper is a little sheep handler - too cute.

Renee that's exciting you are starting to get organised for the baby -not long to go! I will get a proper idea of when our baby 3 is due at my 12 week scan which is a while off. My Ob. will do a basic scan at my appointment in 2.5 weeks but that will be a pretty rough estimate I think. At this point I think this baby will be coming at the end of February.

Well I had a great time meeting Anna today. She was exactly as I thought she would be - friendly and chatty just like she is in here. She surprised me with some beautiful stuff from Tasmania (including some fantastic fudge that I have already devoured) -such a generous and thoughtful woman! We chatted away until it was all of a sudden 4pm and looking like rain so it was time to go.

Anyway time to go and have a bath I think. I hope those sheep are okay Hayley. Chat soon.

ETA: Here's a movie of the boys from this morning playing with some of "Will's" new toys. My parents bought some Duplo for him (which is more for the future) but poor Will isn't allowed to play with it -he is told "no -I making fence Will"

Playing with a birthday present (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=MVI_6661.flv)

Okay -I'm on a bit of a roll sending stuff to people so here's one more : Will actually playing with one of his new presents

Will and his hippo (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=MVI_6673.flv)

[hayleylea]

well the mother sheep is doing just great! THe lamb has improved but still weak. The mother is old and doesnt have much milk so Trent has just gone into town to get some lamb formula and a lamb teat and see how we go!

Cath them videos are great! Glad you and Anna had such a lovely time!

[bingo]

:sleeping:yep home sick today! For a change I'm taking time off work for me not for Maddi. I don't know whats going on I've got high temps and a sore throat but thats it - no snotty nose or cough. And some blinding migraines to go with it. Cath your day with Anna sounded terrific. Man you guys must have enjoyed yourselves if you were out until 4pm. Did you take the boys with you or was it just you and Anna?
Hayley thats so sad about the Sheep. Naughty Roxy! Hope the little lamb is ok. I guess this cold weather doesn't make it any better either. Is Roxy not used to being around sheep?
Maddi's sleeping through the night did not last at all. She woke up at midnight and refused to go back to bed. She turned on all the lights and ran up and down the corridor screaming (like a banshee!). In the end she climbed into our bed and refused to budge. So I climbed into her bed and went back to sleep leaving her daddy to deal with her. Then she wakes up this morning all grumpy (probably from lack of sleep) and refused to get dressed. All I could hear was Tony and her going at it, Maddi screaming blue murder "I don't wanna get dressed". I eventually crawled out of bed and wrestled her down to get her dressed. I honestly had no patience for her today and gave her a tap on the bum which shocked both her and I. Being sick does nothing for my patience. In the end I carried her out to the car and wrestled her into the car seat. No socks or shoes. Honestly she was like a child possessed this morning. God knows what creche is going to think with her arriving with hair sticking up in all directions and only half dressed. After they left I crawled back into bed. Any wonder I'm grinding my teeth at night!
Yep my new Avatar is of Maddi with her face painted with a butterfly. As part of the school holiday program at one of the shopping centres they brought in a body/face painter and the kids could get their face painted for free. Maddi waited for ages in the cue and was so good while she got her face painted. The lady who was painting cracked up because as soon as Maddi sat in the chair she thrust her face forward and closed her eyes without being asked. The lady was so good, she was painting some of the kids as tigers and cats and they looked awesome.
Guess I should go back to bed and try and get some rest.
Anyone want a 2 + 3/4 old girl with an attitude to rival Madonna?

Oh Cath I just watched the video's. The boys are adorable and its lovely to see them playing together. Will is really practicing his sounds, not long before he starts forming words and will be able to tell Paddy what he wants. Paddy is such a great big brother in those vids. I love watching vids of the kids. They are growing up really fast.

[hayleylea]

Lou - you poor thing being so sick. Get lots of rest and hopefully you will feel better soon.

Roxy sees the sheep in the paddocks all the time and barks and runs along the fence. But up until yesterday couldnt get out. In her defence she was trying to play with them not attack...she is very very playfull but obviously the power behind her play is way too much for little baa baas as Cooper calls them. The fence is getting secured today, higher with barbwire, new gates etc so there should be no escaping now. I am off to get her a muzzle also which i will then put her on a lead and go near some of the sheep and yank on her chocker chain if she goes near them as some sort of training not to go near them and also for when we are not here so if she does get out she cant do anything. YOu can get good muzzles now that they can pant and drink etc . I will try her out for a few days while im here to make sure she is ok with it. Having animals can be harder work then kids i reckon. The thing is Roxy is Coopers pet (being a day apart they have literally grew up together). Him and her play all the time, and she is a really lovely dog. Had it been the neighbours sheep we wouldnt have had a choice but to either put her back at the mils or to put her down :( So She better thank her lucky stars that it was our sheep and she is getting a second chance. Oh Cooper would be devasted if he had to get rid of her! But this is her last chance. If she does it again we will have to put her back at the Mils but we will try all our available options first...fixing fences, making them higher, muzzlesetc because she really is apart of our family.

Trents on his way home with the lamb formula and the proper teat for it. I just checked on them and the lamb is trying so hard to get up but no energy. Its mother stamped its feet at me as a way of telling me to go away lol but i managed to grab her and lie her down and get the lamb to suckle off her a little bit. The cold weather doesnt help but they are in the shed with a heater next to the lamb...old sheets and a padded mattress so we are really doing all we can. Poor Cooperr didnt have a heater in his room because the lamb needed it lol. He did wake at 5 this morning but i said its still night time and he said Oh Cold in here mum lol. So i put extra blanket on him. Gave him a cuddle and he said night night and stayed there till 8.30!

Shelley is having her needles today and Cooper has to see the doctor about a excma loooking rash he has on his arm. Geez we have a busy day ahead! better hop to it.

Love the avatar Lou - she looks gorgeous...much better then she looked today with her cranky pants on I bet!!!! :hugs:They can really test us out at this age cant they! hopefully she goes to creche and comes home nice and happy for you!

[Wivi]

Hello all!

Lou - :hugs: I hope you feel better soon. It sounds like a nasty virus that you have there. Why is it that our kids turn into terrors when we are sick? It's always the way. I love the new avatar as well - that lady did a great job painting Maddi's face.

Hayley - Roxy really was very naughty wasn't she? I hope the little lamb is ok. I also hope that Roxy hasn't developed "a taste" for it - isn't that what they say can happen? Poor Cooper having to give up his heater for the lamb! I love the photos of Cooper with the lambs too - he looks so good with them! Will would run the other way!

Renee- glad to hear things are going well with the bubba. Not so good to hear that Katelyn and Maddi are both having sleep issues. You need your rest!

Cath and Anna - so glad your catch up went well. Cath I checked out the videos and your boys are just adorable. Paddy cracked me up - they are so bossy at this age aren't they?

Well - we had a very busy weekend. Levi was baptised yesterday so we had family visiting and we were busy getting ready on Saturday. Levi was really good all weekend despite the busyness and all the people. I think he is quite laid back really. Considering I had to take him to have a chest x-ray on Friday cause the doctor is fairly sure he has had bronchiolitis he has been surprisingly good. I think he is almost over it though - the cough is pretty rare now and he doesn't "rattle" quite as much.

Oh darn - Levi needs to be changed. I'll be back later.

[hayleylea]

Tan - Sounds like you had a busy weekend. I sure hope Roxy hasnt developed a "taste" for them too. i think she should be pretty right once the fence is adjusted etc. She is feeling pretty sorry for herself right about now so we will wait and see what happens! Yeah Cooper is excellent with the Sheep - he suprised me really. We didnt even tell himn what to do he just jumped straight on in and did it himself!

Gotta go. Lunch is here.

[Katcha]

Cath, you sounded like you had a great time with Anna. I liked those videos of Will & Paddy.

Lou, I hope you're feeling better soon and that Maddi's got her happy pants on when she comes home from creche today. That's sch a gorgeous pic of her with her face painted in your avatar.

Hayley, how's the little lamb going? I hope it's improving. I know what you mean about Roxy just wanting to play with the sheep. Dogs just don't realise they can hurt them, do they? I remember when I was a kid we had a dog & one day a rabbit got into our yard. Our dog was just so excited & wanted to play with it, but unfortunately the outcome was not good for the rabbit. :no:

Tan, certainly sounds like you had a busy weekend. I'm glad Levi was good for you over the weekend & that's great to hear that he's nearly over his sickness.

Well, I've had a bit of a boring day here. I had to have the day off work because I had to be home for a guy to come around this morning & do some termite treatment. James found some termites out in his work area a couple of weeks ago. None were in the house luckily. Anyhoo, that's all been treated now & the guy drilled holes all around out house & put termite treatment stuff in which should keep the nasty buggers away for the next 5 years.....bloody expensive though, over a grand!

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Well what a busy afternoon! Spent an hour at the doctors!!!!! our appointment was at 3.10 and we didnt get in till 4.10 - so cranky. We had 2 appointments...one with the nurse there for Shelley and one for the doctor for Cooper (both at the same time) - in the end both the kids got cranky! Trent took cooper and i took shelley and they got done at the same time. Shelley was sooo funny and cute. She was smiling at the nurse and then the nurse jabbed her with the needle and she dropped her lip and cried for about 5 seconds....then gave her the biggest grin ever, got the second jab and dropped her lip again and then gave an even bigger grin! So funny. She was a hit with both the doctor and the nurse. She is now 7.8kg!!!:eek: Growing very nicely as the doctor put it! haha.

The Lamb has been taking its lamb formula but im still not sure if it will make it or not. She still cant get up. But she is geting stronger and making attempts - her front legs are just a bit weak though. Im trying not to get too attached...im a big animal lover and get attached to animals waaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy! So Trents doing most of the feeding etc. The mother is still with her...We were contemplating about bringing the lamb in to the laundry because we are expecting really cold weather - snow!! But its probably best that she stays with her mum. So we have the heater going again with lots of blankets and even put a jumper on her! lol An old one of Coopers. Lambs can get pnuemonia really easily so its just an attempt to keep her as warm as possible. Ill hopefully get some photos of her tommorrow if she is still with us!

Renee - termite treatment is expensive huh! We had to get it done to this house when we brought it- id love to be the bug man earning all that money!

Anyway i better head off. Im tired - didnt sleep much kept thinking about the lamb!

Night guys

[Moorish]

Ok so ignore the time - yes it's late, yes I'm crazy - I'm also freaking freezing and tired but have been missing you all like crazy so just had to quickly post.

So I have NO chance of catching up completely so if anyone would like to fill me in on what's been happening in their lives the last couple of weeks I'd soooo love to know - dot points is fine if you can't be bothered! :D


Lou I'm SOOOO incredibly disappointed that we didn't get the chance to meet up on Sunday - you have no idea (well, actually you probably do!) how much I was looking forward to it! 6.5 weeks and counting before Shane and I head back up to Melbourne together and he's already sussing out what my plan is for the weekend (asking if I had meeting the bubhub girls out of my system yet - HELL no! :laughing:) Anyway, I'm sure he won't be surprised in the least if I tell him that we need to go to Bendigo! Lol!

Cath it was AMAZING finally meeting up with you! I can't get over how quick we chatted away the hours - I swear I've never eaten so slowly in my life because my mouth was far too busy talking!

When I finally arrived at the train station (ticket hadn't validated properly so I couldn't get out of Flinders so had to track down some guy to fix my ticket :rolleyes:) Cath found me first and came up to me with a huge smile and an even bigger hug! I tell you what girls - don't be fooled, she can chat as much as I can post! lol! Seriously though, it was just so wonderful to finally get to meet you.

Well I'm obviously back from Melb and man-oh-MAN I had a blast! I'm still suffering lingering effects of a mother of a hangover which was the result of Friday night and a Saturday night that went waaaaay into the early hours of Sunday morning. Sunday's train travels into the city is something I just never want to live through again and I dreaded the flight back home late last night but I was a little better by then thank goodness.

Anyway enough rambling from me - I'll catch up properly later. Better go finish wrapping one more of Alex's presents - today my darling bubba blue turns 1 and I honestly can't believe it. Better head for bed as I have a long day of cooking and playing with Alex ahead of me.

Hope you're all well (Lou hope you're feeling well & Cath hope the MS lays off for you really soon).
Talk soon
xoxo

[cath]

happybirthday HAPPY 1ST BIRTHDAY ALEX!!happybirthday

I hope you are having a wonderful day.

I will be back soon to post properly - got to finish some cooking while I can. Hope everyone is well.

[MrsMiggins]

Happy Birthday Alex!!!! Wow, doesn't time fly?!!

Anna, I can imagine what your hangover must be like - I've seen those photos you know!! ;)

[Wivi]

Morning all.

Well I hope Alex had a happy birthday yesterday. Does that mean Will's is today? I guess it does - so happybirthday Will!

We had a busy day yesterday - I took both the boys to a friend's place for most of the day as it is school holidays here. Thankfully for me - Levi was well behaved and Will played with the others well, but he didn't have a sleep all day. It was nice to go out somewhere though - I have been feeling a bit trapped at home here, we couldn't go anywhere really with Levi being sick (and me too I guess) so I really enjoyed getting out a bit yesterday.

It's turned really cold here - Levi looked like an eskimo when he went to bed last night - he had a wondersuit, a sleepsack and some mittens underneath his wrap and then 3 blankets on his bed as well as the heater on! But he must have been warm and cosy as he slept all night again which was just lovely. He's being a bit of a nuisance this morning though - one little nap and now not going back to sleep! Oh well - guess he just isn't that tired or something.

How is all the TT going? Has anyone else had any progress lately?

OK - gotta run. Chat later

[Moorish]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY WILL!
Hope you're having a lovely day today! :sunshine:

Yep it was Alex's birthday yesterday and I can't believe how emotional I was all day. By about 3pm I was fighting back the tears and the huge lump in my throat and I was about to lose it when I burned the cake and Shane was late coming home.

My mum & SD arrived about 5:30 and we asked them to stay for tea, Shane's parents were due after tea sometime but arrived 10 mins later which really threw us as I was going to make dessert for everyone. By the end of the evening I had my own little melt down while I flipped through photos on the computer. I've put together a slide show of Alex's first year which I'll complete on the weekend as we're having a drop-in afternoon tea so I'll get some photos of Alex with cake etc. I have a gorgeous song to put with it too - oh it fits perfectly!

I'm still completely in 2 minds about another baby - I don't remember getting this emotional when my girls turned 1, probably because I always knew there would be more babies.

Anyway, enough of the sad-sack me.

Tan I'm loving your new username! I'm assuming it's from WILL & LEVI!
I'm STILL considering a username change - most popular so far is JustOneMoore, MooreToLove and PleaseMyDarlingHusbandShanePrettyPleaseCanIHaveJus tOneMoreLittleMoore :laughing:.
Shane has suggested FoursNotEnough (as a joke) which went down pretty well with a few people and is on my list as well (with :hissy: at the end of it! Lol!) I've decided that adding Alex to my username just isn't going to work so I'm thinking something completely different is in order - too bad I don't have a creative bone in my body.

Better head off - have to clean up a little before I pick Chelsea up from school. Pop back in soon. xoxo

[bingo]

Oh I'm slack!
happybirthday to Alex and happybirthday to Will. Sorry the birthday wishes are late but I got there! :(.
At home today with a sick Maddi now........I'm so over this never ending cycle. We're off to the doc this arvo and I'm going to be talking to him about this non stop sickness ****. I'm actually working from home today with the approval of my manager because I have so much work to do and I'm never at work these days. Lucky my manager is understanding.
Anna, I can't tell you how bummed out I was about the weekend too. I'm holding out hope for that weekend in Melbourne that you come across to go to the footy. I'll be bringing down Maddi as TOny will have hockey so you'll get to meet both of us at least. And fingers crossed no more sickness!
BTW I love Foursnotenough.
I saw some photo's on facebook from your weekend dancing sessions with the girls. Like they say pictures say a thousand words. And from the look of those photo's a LOT Of alcohol was consumed and fun had by all.

[MrsMiggins]

Happy Birthday Will!!!! I hope you had a wonderful & special first birthday!!! :D

Another quick one from me, I'm so sorry!!

Feeling quite sick & just lying in bed feeling sorry for myself. Dave is away but gets back tomorrow.

I'll try & do a proper catch up very soon! :)

[bingo]

Grrr, I'm so annoyed this morning. Half of my view of bubhub is blocked by those ads that flash up on your screen on the right hand side and I can't figure out how to get them off!! Anyone help me?

Well i took Maddi to our regular GP yesterday yet again. Her temp was up to 39.5 but otherwise she was fine. Don't know if you guys remember but she was sick about 2 weeks ago and our regular GP was away so I had to take her into another clinic. That GP prescribed her some amoxycillin and said she had infected adenoids. Yesterday my GP took a look and when I told him what the other GP said he told me you can't see adenoids by just looking into her mouth so how that GP came to that conclusion is beyond him. But her throat is all red and really sore and all her lymph glands up so her diagnosed her with Strep throat and yep once again more antibiotics but this time for 10 days. I have to throw out all her toothbrushes and sterilise her dummies and try and sterilise her new toothbrush every night until the 10 days is up. Thats so she doesn't re-infect herself. And this morning I get up and low and behold I've got a really sore throat. So big chance I've got it too and that was what was wrong on the weekend. So now I'm wondering if I should head back to the GP yet again for me or try and tough it out. I told the GP I was sooooo Over this winter and why oh why is she sick all the time. Same old reason of young kids and creche and she will be right around the age of 3. I bloomin hope so!

Cath I never got to ask you how your party for Will went on Saturday? How did it go and did you have a lot of the family over? Did Will enjoy his party and get lots of cool presents.
Anna, have you recovered yet? Did Alex and the girls miss their mummy? Was Shane exhausted?
Ange how are you going? Haven't heard from you in a while. Are you busy sewing? Hows the wedding plans coming along. Have you got a dress? I can't wait to see photo's! How are those ties coming along?
Renee, how is Katelyn going in her big bed? Any improvements yet? Maddi is still giving me trouble and her being sick isn't helping much at all. If you have a breakthrough I'd love to hear about it and what you did so I can give it a go here. Termites! Oh thats scary but like you said at least you found them early.
Fi, are you going OK up there? sorry to hear your sick. Is Dave back and making you lots of lovely chicken soup and occupying the kids so you can rest up.
Tan, Levi sounds like he's settling into a great sleep routine. Is Will still going to creche every now and then? Do you also find that he gets sick a lot like Maddi?
Hayley, how was Shelley the night of her needles? I used to find Maddi would sleep all that night and then the next day it would be terrible. Little lamb sounds pretty cosy in the laundry.
Maddi's got her Hi-5 concert tomorrow. I hope the antibiotics kick in by then and she'll be feeling up to it. I'm dragging Tony along as well :D

[bingo]

Oh and I have to share these images with you. Last night I was talking to my parents on the phone while Maddi was painting. And when I found her she had painted her face with a lovely lipstick. My mum had put make up on her when she visited and Maddi loved it. I'm afraid she has created a monster.
please don't kill me (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/facepaint.jpg)
love the lippy (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/facepaint1.jpg)
And Maddi has started to draw her first faces. This is a picture she drew of my parents.
MaMa and FaFa faces (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/MamaandFafa.jpg)

[hayleylea]

Hi guys

just a quick one from me. Have been VERY busy and just got home from mums

Happy birthday to both Will and Alex! WOW that time has flown!!!!

Hope Maddi gets better soon - you poor things are always sick!!!!! :hugs:

The lamb is going OK. Still not very strong...but poos are back to normal and it looks happy. Trents just heading into town to get her some antibiotics from the vet.

Shelley was fine the night of her needles and all the next day (she slept! all day lol) didnt seem to affect her at all she slept 12 hours straight both nights at mums aswell. We got to see snow there too which was exciting. It didnt settle but it was pretty seeing it fall - Cooper loved it

OK gotta go..talk soon

[MrsMiggins]

Lou, those pics are hilarious!!!! :laughing: :laughing: (Now just imagine if she had a younger sibling to decorate!! lol)

Those faces are awesome!! I should take a photo of the pictures Claire did the other day. I was showing her how to do those ones where you make a thumb print on the page & then put faces on & turn them all into little people. Well, I did like 4 and Claire got too impatient & wanted to do the rest herself, so I let her go & OMG I was so amazed!! She did such a good job of it! It's now hanging on the pantry door.

Clever little things, aren't they?! :D

Sorry to hear you guys are sick! :( Strep throat is no fun - especially with all the extra work sterilising everything! Gah - what an absolute PITA!!!

Dave got home this morning, but had to go to work this afternoon. So much for chicken soup & a break from the kids!! :rolleyes:

Hayles, that's great the lamb is getting better & that Shelley was good for her needles. I was only just thinking I am going to have to take Owen for his 18 month one shortly!! Can you believe it?!

My brother is up from Canberra this week with his 6 year old twin boys. The kids all love playing together! It's been great! We went to underwater world yesterday afternoon, which was nice (despite the fact that I felt like death warmed up).

All right, better go get some lunch while the kids are sleeping.

[cath]

Hi everyone,
Thanks for all of Will's birthday wishes. I've been meaning to get back on here for days but somehow the days get away from me and by the time the boys are in bed I have no energy left and have been pretty much eating dinner and going to bed. I am definitely feeling pregnant already - tired, sick and my stupid pelvic bones are aching already. It is so ridiculous - I am only 6-7 weeks and it is already kicking in - such a long way to go:eek: Something about hanging out the washing aggravates this stupid bum pain and I did 3 loads yesterday and was in so much pain in the afternoon. Our new laundry (including new machine) will be done in a few weeks and I think I will be programming the machine to be done in time for Dean to hang it out before he goes to work (just got to get the man out of bed before 7:30!) or I am going to end up like a hobbling old woman.

Lou you poor thing. As Fi says what a right PITA about the sterilising. How awful that you are both sick- not nice. Love the photos and those faces are fantastic! They are growing up so fast. I got a letter yesterday saying Paddy had been accepted into 3 year old kinder at the one 2 minutes walk from here:smiliedance: I am so happy about that. It was going to be such a pain if I had to put 3 little ones in the car to take Paddy to kinder - now I can just run him down there. He is going to love it (and so am I).

Fi I hope Dave gets home nice and early for you and you get to rest up tonight.

Hayley how exciting about the snow and good to hear the lamb is going okay. Love the story about Shelley with her needles- hilarious. She is doing very well with her growth.

Will has his needles next week which I am dreading but it will be interesting to see how big he is.

Tan good to hear Levi's baptism went well and that you got out of the house on Tuesday -it is always nice to have a change of scenery. TT here is at a standstill. I told Paddy yesterday he would be going to kinder soon and would have to be using the toilet by then which of course he replied "yes,toilet" to :yes: My aim at this stage is to at least have the whole stupid thing done by the time baby 3 comes in February - surely that is reasonable. I am so over the whole thing really and just can't be bothered half the time which is not very helpful to the whole process - I just want him to do it himself (wishful thinking!).

Anna sound like you had a busy day for Alex's birthday. I can totally understand you being emotional about the whole thing -they are really growing up. Can't wait to see the photo thing you are doing. Good to hear you survived the plane trip home. I hope you have recovered.

Renee not good about the termites (or the big bill for fixing them up).

We had a nice day for Will's birthday yesterday with Mum dropping in with cake in the morning and then my brother's girlfriend doing the same thing in the afternoon. I had initially planned to take the boys to an animal farm or something but it was too cold and Will is still a bit sick and is sleeping alot during the day at the moment so we stayed home. He (and Paddy of course) had lots of new toys to play with and we were all quite happy at home. Speaking of these new toys my project over the next few days is to find somewhere to store them all. They are now taking over the house and we have run out of toy storage so I have to do some organsing.

Okay - better go and get some stuff done before Mum brings Paddy back. Chat soon.

[Moorish]

Hey girls, looks like we've all been a bit busy lately - glad it's not just me!

Lou, Maddi has the guilty look in the bag! OMG how I laughed when I saw those pics! What a lovely time she must have had.
I simply can not believe you guys are so sick again! You've all had such a terrible cycle and I think you all need a looooong holiday away from everything to rest, recover and build up those immune systems again - I hear Tassie's lovely this time of year ;).

Hayles, I've caught up on a few pictures on your site, MY how Shelley's growing up fast! I love your av at the moment, too cute! The girls have put Alex in their dolls pram a couple of times, poor little man - he really needs a brother to stick together with!

Cath, I recovered fine from my weekend away - the train ride back to Tracey's was a LOT better than the ride in (I think it was more because I was sitting backwards on the train on the way in) and the plane trip home was fine - no delays which was a blessing as I found out that that particular flight is notorious for being late.
It occurred to me on the train ride home that I never asked you about Will's party - how selfish of me! Do you have photos for us? I can't wait to see! I'm still struggling over what sort of cake to make Alex for Sunday - it's so tough for a boy, well at this age at least especially because he's not really 'into' anything except cuddles and making noise!
I've searched my books, I've googled my little heart out and here are a couple of suggestions:
Firetruck (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/cakes/0403_mm_fireengine.gif)
Train (a) (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/cakes/traincake.jpg)
Train (b) (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/cakes/traincake2.jpg)
Both would be fairly simple to do and I wouldn't need to buy a tin. I do love the fire truck, but the train I guess I could make a couple of carriages on the back for more cake lol!
Another option is a drum - Alex just loves banging on the wiggles drum.

Tan, how are things in your house at the moment? Everyone getting better? Glad to hear you got out of the house the other day - I'm beginning to feel that the only times I venture out are for the school runs, groceries and appointments. I know what you mean about the cold - it's been freezing here at night lately, sometimes 2-3 degrees. Shane's been lighting the fire at night and we leave the kids doors open so their rooms don't get too chilly. They still wear their zippy suits though and we have flannel sheets, a polar blanket plus their winter weight doona's on their beds - makes me feel better knowing they're snug!

Renee, how's that bump of yours going? Gee time's flying! How much longer do you have til you're due? I've missed something but what's this I hear about termites? I don't know much about them except for that they can distroy a house, not an issue here in Tassie. I hope it's not too disastrous for you.

Fi, how are you feeling hun? Make sure Dave gives you a break this weekend, turn on the waterworks if you need to - whatever it takes, you need rest!!
How lovely to spend time with your brother and nephews, even if you're not feeling the best I'm glad you had a great time.


This week seems to have flown past and I can't believe it's Friday! What have I done this week? Stuff all by the looks of it!

My weekend away was bloody awesome but I DEFINATELY can't party like I use to - such a shame ;). It was just wonderful to catch up with Tracey again and to meet some Melbourne chicks - they're SUCH a great bunch of girls!
Trace and I did sport a decent hang over on Sunday and I was still feeling a bit ordinary on the Monday.
I'd been drinking litres of water since Friday (I was just so thirsty for some reason) and when I arrived home on Sunday night (around 11:30pm) and took my shoes off, I was horrified to see that my ankles were massive, not to mention my tummy had bloated up something crazy and I looked seriously pregnant. I was so uncomfortable, add to that the second I went to bed AF arrived, smack-bang on time, to the clock. By the Tues morning when I jumped on the scales I'd lost 1.5kg from Sunday night - all fluid.
Oh by the way - as of this morning, 96kg exactly :D. Cath believe it or not, that's 2kg LESS than when you saw me on Sunday - I felt so swollen and bloated that day. So looks like Reductil is working and should we decide to go ahead with TTC, I'm sure going to miss it!

Hmm . . . what else can I ramble about?
Shane's confusing the issue about having a 5th.
Don't know if I mentioned or not, but he doesn't say anymore that he doesn't want anymore kids - rather he says he's happy with the 4. I told him the other day that I'd noticed this and he had a sheepish grin on his face :rolleyes:.
Yesterday we were talking about how we're not getting any closer to reaching a decision, that there was no compromise and that one of us would have to give in lol! Shane got a bit serious and said that he knew that our 'ideal' time has arrived, then cheekily added that we could always just 'try' for the next 3 months and if it doesn't happen well there's our answer :rolleyes:. Men just don't get it! Besides the fact that (according to history) we probably won't have a lot of trouble conceiving - does he honestly think that after 3 months I'm just going to say - yep, no worries! I'm done trying now! :laughing:
Boy he's still got a lot to learn! lol!

Ok I'm sure I'm going to lose this post in a min and I'm just babbling anyway so I'd better go as I have a TONNE of housework to do and we have dinner guests (cr@p! Don't even know what I'm cooking yet!)

Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Talk soon
xoxo

[hayleylea]

Hi guys

WOW Anna another monster post from you!

I dont have much time getting on here while im looking after this lamb so so sorry for lack of personals.

Shelley was unsettled last night till about 1am. she was waking every hour till then..dunno whats going on there. Then she is a bit out of sorts today aswell.

Anna a train cake looks great. My sister and SIL have both used one similar to that and whacked carriages on the back.

Sorry guys gotta go~!

[bingo]

Fi, if Maddi had sibling to decorate those two would be in all sorts of trouble and it would be a constant bathtime thats for sure. Sounds like you guys have had a constant stream of visitors from down south lately. Its terrific when the kids have someone to entertain them.
Cath, The three year old kinder sounds very handy around the corner. Maddi will probably skip 3 year old and go to 4 year old kinder since she's at creche? I don't know, guess I better make my mind up pretty fast.
Anna, I love the fire truck too. Maybe you could make some cupcake's to go with the fire truck? High-5 for the 2kg loss :smiliedance:. thats terrific. And it sounds to me that you might be making a baby announcement too???? :D. I mean you guys do make gorgeous babies!
Maddi had her Hi-5 concert today. We were so close. Maddi actually freaked out halfway because it was all dark inside the concert hall and they brought this elephant (not a real one) out and because we were so close she got scared. So half the concert was spent with her head buried in my chest. As soon as the lights came on she jumped up and wanted to know where they were :rolleyes:. So now we are home and she is watching a Hi-5 video wearing a Hi-5 t-shirt and she thinks its terrific.
Hi-5 (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/hi5.jpg)

[MrsMiggins]

Hi all! Another quick one from me - sorry!! But I want to keep my hand in, so to speak, otherwise it gets out of hand & there's far too much for me to reply to!

Lou, love the Hi-5 pic! Glad Maddi had a great time in the end! We're going to the Wiggles in December, I can't wait!! (Oh, and the kids will probably enjoy it too.... :o)

Anna, :laughing: you guys are so having another baby!! Tough decision with the cakes, I like the fire truck. I had a hard time deciding with Owen's too. I went with race cars.

Cath, that's great about Will & the 3 year kinder. It's so different everywhere around Australia! Where I grew up, you went to pre-school when you turned 4 & you only went half days, then when you turned 5, you went to kindy full time, then onto first grade.

Here, they have pre-prep at age 4, then prep at age 5, then primary school starts. I think pre-prep & prep are not compulsory. I have no idea when it comes to school!!

Hayles, I'm glad your lamb is getting better! I keep looking on here & FB for updates!!

We had a rough night here last night. Owen was very cranky & snuffly & didn't go to sleep for ages, then was pretty unsettled & Claire took ages to settle down for a sleep, then woke screaming at 9.30, saying her ear was sore. I eventually convinced her to take some nurofen (no mean task, I can assure you!!) and she managed to finally fall asleep around midnight, but was in our bed at 1. She woke up at 6.30 and asked for her milk & I asked her if her ear was better & she said it was. Then she went back to sleep & woke up at 11am, crying & saying her ear hurt again. So we went to the Dr & she does have a pretty bad ear infection. On antibiotics until at least Tuesday when we have to go back to the Dr again. I had to get her to take both nurofen & her antibiotics when we got home - poor baby!! She hates it so much!! And it's go to be done 3 times a day. :(

We're meant to be having a big family dinner tonight with my brothers, parents, nephews, brother's girlfriend/fiancee. Not sure if we'll be going or not. I'll have to see how Claire's going.

I'd better run. Heaps to do today!!

[bingo]

Oh Poor Claire! Ear infections are so painful. I've been bribing Maddi to take her medicine with chocolate. Its the only way I can get her to take it these days or else I end up wearing it. You can see the anguish on her face as she weighs up the pro's and con's. And like a true chocoholic like her mummy she can't hold out and will take the medicine.
Hopefully the antibiotics will start to kick in in about 24 hours :fingerscrossed:. You must be so tired Fi. Hope you get an early night.

Ages ago I think Tan recommended valerian for insomnia. Well I tried it out for a few nights, bought the valerian forte and haven't had any luck with it so far. Does it take a few nights to start working? I've been taking it for 4 nights now hoping for some sleep.

[cath]

Oh Lou - are you having trouble sleeping - isn't it the worst! I would guess it might take a few days for the Valerian to kick in but surely 4 days would be almost enough to have some sort of effect. I hope you sleep tonight. Why do you think you aren't sleeping? Good to hear Maddi liked the concert. I think if Paddy was going to creche I wouldn't bother with 3 year old kinder as they probably do all the same stuff. This will be his opportunity to go a bit nuts with messy stuff and really play with other kids so I've booked him in. Your right about it being different everywhere Fi. Here they have optional 3 year old kinder, compulsory 4 year old kinder then school starts.

Poor little Claire and her nasty ear infection - not good. I hope it clears up quickly for you and that you get a better night tonight. Paddy loves his medicine which is a worry and always asks for more. He is used to having his "orange drink" (pentavite) every night and quite enjoys the process.

Hayley I hope Shelley has a better night for you tonight and is okay.

Anna well done with the big post. I love both the cakes - I will be so impressed if you make either one of them - quite an effort. Well done with the 2 kg weight loss:yelclap: That is amazing for a couple of days. Will's party was good but we didn't really get any good photos - I will see if there are any half decent ones to put on here. Sounds like Shane is starting to lean towards number 5 -good luck with the whole thing. I am defintiely going to be done with 3 the way I am feeling at the moment. Enjoy your dinner tonight - you are one busy woman!!

Okay better go for now. Lots to do here. Chat soon.

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Yeah I've been having sleep issues for a long time now. I think its my body used to being up at all hours with Maddi and now that she is reasonable with her sleep I have to try and change habits. I've tried meditation and now the valerian. I still get at least 6 hours but I should really be getting 9 and I do feel tired. At night I lay there looking at the ceiling wishing myself to sleep. Then I start reading a book and get too engrossed and then I get annoyed at myself for not going to sleep. I often find my mind is thinking about all the things I need to be doing so I have to make a really big effort to NOT THINK.
Alright I'm off to make Pizza dough. Very messy!

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I hear you Lou. When I have insomnia half the time it is because I can't stop thinking too. Being a bit on edge after dealing with sleep dramas doesn't help either - it's like our bodies can't quite relax because they think we are going to have to respond to something any minute or something -so annoying. I hope you sleep better soon. I have been sleeping well in the last few days. The novelty of being pregnant has worn off and I have stopped thinking about it so much so my mind is finally letting me get some sleep (plus Will is finally almost better and has stopped waking so much at night).

Ooh I love home made pizza - now I am craving it. Might have to make that here this weekend.

I am breastfeeding Will for the last time tonight and am more than ready for it. He has taken to extending the feed time over the last few weeks and what used to take 10-15 minutes now takes 20-30 minutes and I am a bit sick of it. I pull him off only to have him thrash around and carry on so I have to let him keep feeding until he is ready to stop. I think he is going to be quite upset about the change in routine tomorrow night but hopefully he will be okay after a couple of nights. Feeding one baby from the inside is more than enough for my body I think and Will has had a good 12 months. Poor bubba- it is a bit sad but that's life.