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GiftofLife
05-06-2008, 23:32
I have noticed that there is a lot of action in the Anti-Circ area, but not much in here.
I have three boys, all who are done. So I thought I would start this thread and give people a chance to share their experiences and also for people who are considering getting it done, I thought it would be good for those of us who have been there to offer our advice and help.
All of my boys were done by different doctors at varying ages. They were all done at around 6-9 weeks of age and I am completely happy with mine and my DF's decision that this was right for our boys.
I would be happy to answer any specific questions, but right now I am really tired :laughing: I just wanted to get this thread up and running, for people who have questions, but are perhaps to afraid to ask.
:wave:
2boybubs
10-06-2008, 09:46
Just out of curiosity, what reasons did you have for doing it? I didn't have my DS done and the next one won't have it done either, no judgement on you and your decisions but I'm just wondering what the reasons are.
miloand4
10-06-2008, 10:15
Hi I am a mum of four two boys, I had my oldest boy curcumsised and the procedure went very wrong , to much skin was removed causing an abcess wich got very badly infected the whole thing frightened me and has made me feel incredibly guilty so my next boy was not done Think you need to do a LOT of research on this before a desision is made it is a pretty major, possibly life changing thing you are doing to your child.Get as much information as you possibly can as you would with any surgery carried out on your child.Not against it just think people should go into it educated.
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 15:33
Just out of curiosity, what reasons did you have for doing it? I didn't have my DS done and the next one won't have it done either, no judgement on you and your decisions but I'm just wondering what the reasons are.
Just out of curiosity, even if I explained my reasons, would you consider me any less of a monster?? I think not. As much as you say there was no judgment intended in your post, there clearly was.
I started this thread to answer questions of people who are wanting to go ahead with circumcision, not to justify myself to people who are against it.
I have plenty of reasons for having it done, but I would prefer not to share them with people who it would make no difference to.
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 15:35
Hi I am a mum of four two boys, I had my oldest boy curcumsised and the procedure went very wrong , to much skin was removed causing an abcess wich got very badly infected the whole thing frightened me and has made me feel incredibly guilty so my next boy was not done Think you need to do a LOT of research on this before a desision is made it is a pretty major, possibly life changing thing you are doing to your child.Get as much information as you possibly can as you would with any surgery carried out on your child.Not against it just think people should go into it educated.
I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. I personally had no troubles when my boys were done. As for people researching the procedure before having it done, I think that is a given. No one would go into it without knowing what it was about.
I researched it till I was overloaded with info, how else would I be able to make a decision??
MummaBear03
10-06-2008, 15:37
Just out of curiosity, even if I explained my reasons, would you consider me any less of a monster?? I think not. As much as you say there was no judgment intended in your post, there clearly was.
I started this thread to answer questions of people who are wanting to go ahead with circumcision, not to justify myself to people who are against it.
I have plenty of reasons for having it done, but I would prefer not to share them with people who it would make no difference to.
I didn't see any judgement in that post, and think that it would maybe be beneficial for people to know the reasons for it. I have a girl and really don't know of any reason to have it done and don't do things without there being a reason for it. Not to judge, just to understand :flowerz:
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 15:46
I didn't see any judgement in that post, and think that it would maybe be beneficial for people to know the reasons for it. I have a girl and really don't know of any reason to have it done and don't do things without there being a reason for it. Not to judge, just to understand :flowerz:
But you and I both know that even if I explain my reasons, no one will understand. They will still all say that "It's wrong" and "How could anyone do that".
I know that there was no judgment in what she had actually written. But as if by saying "I don't agree with something and I wouldn't do it", someone will open up as to why they chose to do it.
As I have stated previously and as clearly stated in my OP, I have started this thread to share my experience with other parents who wish to have the procedure done. So unless that's what you're here to talk about, I really see no point in continuing this conversation.
MummaBear03
10-06-2008, 15:48
But you and I both know that even if I explain my reasons, no one will understand. They will still all say that "It's wrong" and "How could anyone do that".
I know that there was no judgment in what she had actually written. But as if by saying "I don't agree with something and I wouldn't do it", someone will open up as to why they chose to do it.
As I have stated previously and as clearly stated in my OP, I have started this thread to share my experience with other parents who wish to have the procedure done. So unless that's what you're here to talk about, I really see no point in continuing this conversation.
I have a girl so no it won't be on the agenda, but was curious about it which is why i came in to start with. But I'll leave you be now...
Question? Do you think the older they are the worse it is?
We had my ds booked in for 6weeks but had to cancel due to another medical condition. He is now 9 weeks and i feel he may be too old. My Dh and I would really like him done. We have the option of waiting until he is 12months and getting it done under a general anesthetic. Did anyone get it done after 10weeks??? And did anyone get it done under anesthetic?
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 15:53
I have a girl so no it won't be on the agenda, but was curious about it which is why i came in to start with. But I'll leave you be now...
That's fine and I'm sorry if I came off as narky. I guess all that people need to know is that I did have my reasons, and they were what I consider to be good enough ones to warrant it. Those reasons teamed with research and long chats with my DF, helped me reach a decision that I felt was right for my family. :)
If I thought that it would truly make a difference and help people to see that people who choose to circ are not monsters, then by all means, I would share. But for some reason, I don't see that happening :laughing:
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 15:55
Question? Do you think the older they are the worse it is?
We had my ds booked in for 6weeks but had to cancel due to another medical condition. He is now 9 weeks and i feel he may be too old. My Dh and I would really like him done. We have the option of waiting until he is 12months and getting it done under a general anesthetic. Did anyone get it done after 10weeks??? And did anyone get it done under anesthetic?
One of my boys was done at around 9-10 weeks and it was no different to having my others done. The recovery time was the same and lots 'No Nappy' time helps with the healing process.
ETA ~ I do for a fact know that it is worse for the child if it is done after three months. So personally I wouldn't wait till 12 months. But that's just me.
StellasMummy
10-06-2008, 15:58
WOW.this discussion seems a tad heated.
I think people are just curious as to reasons people get their boys circd.
I didnt see 2boysbub as an attack.but thats just me.
People have plenty of reasons to get it done. would be good to hear peoples reasons i think.
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 16:02
WOW.this discussion seems a tad heated.
I think people are just curious as to reasons people get their boys circd.
I didnt see 2boysbub as an attack.but thats just me.
People have plenty of reasons to get it done. would be good to hear peoples reasons i think.
I don't think it's heated at all. I am just standing my ground on what this thread is actually about. The only thing making it seem heated is that people who don't agree with circumcision are coming in here to ask questions that would obviously make no difference to them, no matter the answer.
I started this thread for people who want to have their boys circed to be able to ask a fellow mum who has been there about their experience. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that??
Thanks, don't want to wait but only one Dr. in our area does the procedure, have an appt. 2morrow for me and i'm going to enquire as to wether he will do it. Do you think it would be as bad under anesthetic??
Also what method did your Dr. use?
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 16:06
Thanks, don't want to wait but only one Dr. in our area does the procedure, have an appt. 2morrow for me and i'm going to enquire as to wether he will do it. Do you think it would be as bad under anesthetic??
Also what method did your Dr. use?
I am not sure about what difference anesthetic would make to the whole thing. Besides bubs not being aware during the procedure. I think that with a little bub, going under a general would be more risky and therefore it's not something I would choose to do.
All of my boys were done using the plastibell method. They had numbing gel placed under their foreskins around 40mins before the procedure.
Thanks heaps. My dr. uses the same method. See what he says tomorrow.
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 16:11
Thanks heaps. My dr. uses the same method. See what he says tomorrow.
Good luck with whatever you ultimately decide to do :)
StellasMummy
10-06-2008, 16:12
I don't think it's heated at all. I am just standing my ground on what this thread is actually about. The only thing making it seem heated is that people who don't agree with circumcision are coming in here to ask questions that would obviously make no difference to them, no matter the answer.
I started this thread for people who want to have their boys circed to be able to ask a fellow mum who has been there about their experience. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that??
I totally agree with you.I didnt find out the sex of my bubs, but book for a circ just incase i had a boy, as it turned out,i had a girl.
I just thought it sounded heated.
I totally agree.Its the parents choice, either way, only the decision is theirs.
Im not really fazed but it all.
My reason for getting it done(had i of had a boy) was for hygiene and also cos DF is done.
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 16:15
I totally agree with you.I didnt find out the sex of my bubs, but book for a circ just incase i had a boy, as it turned out,i had a girl.
I just thought it sounded heated.
I totally agree.Its the parents choice, either way, only the decision is theirs.
Im not really fazed but it all.
My reason for getting it done(had i of had a boy) was for hygiene and also cos DF is done.
I can see how it would look that way :laughing: I guess I was just trying to stop any negative discussion before it started, as that would only make people afraid to ask any questions they have, iykwim.
Your little girl is beautiful, now you are faced with.............. "To pierce or Not to pierce" LOL :laughing:
StellasMummy
10-06-2008, 16:20
I can see how it would look that way :laughing: I guess I was just trying to stop any negative discussion before it started, as that would only make people afraid to ask any questions they have, iykwim.
Your little girl is beautiful, now you are faced with.............. "To pierce or Not to pierce" LOL :laughing:
thank you!
iv already had experience! iv just said she can decide for herself when she's older!
that seems to shut em up.hehe
BazzasMum
10-06-2008, 19:18
I tried to get DS done by 6wks, but the Dr went on holiday and took a break from doing circs. I ended up having to see a Paed who only did them after 6 months of age, when the foreskin was naturally unattached. We were then put on the waiting list and got in when DS was 9 months.
He was done under GA and also had the penile block. Was back in recovery after about 1/2 hour.
If this one's a boy, he'll also be getting done. I just don't know whether to do it straight off, or wait again. Hard to decide. DS kept trying to touch it which stung a little, but a newborn's foreskin hasn't retracted yet. So I really don't know....
Is there anyone who's had their boys done at different ages???? Does it make a difference?
Again, I did it for the lack of infections, fewer STDs, lack of penile cancer in circ'd men. My MIL rang me a few months after he was done and demanded I do it as she'd seen a doco on it. Of course she'd forgotten we'd told her he was already done (she's a total space cadet - love her to bits tho!!). DH was done as a baby.
Kirsty :goodvibes:
GiftofLife
10-06-2008, 19:50
I tried to get DS done by 6wks, but the Dr went on holiday and took a break from doing circs. I ended up having to see a Paed who only did them after 6 months of age, when the foreskin was naturally unattached. We were then put on the waiting list and got in when DS was 9 months.
He was done under GA and also had the penile block. Was back in recovery after about 1/2 hour.
If this one's a boy, he'll also be getting done. I just don't know whether to do it straight off, or wait again. Hard to decide. DS kept trying to touch it which stung a little, but a newborn's foreskin hasn't retracted yet. So I really don't know....
Is there anyone who's had their boys done at different ages???? Does it make a difference?
Again, I did it for the lack of infections, fewer STDs, lack of penile cancer in circ'd men. My MIL rang me a few months after he was done and demanded I do it as she'd seen a doco on it. Of course she'd forgotten we'd told her he was already done (she's a total space cadet - love her to bits tho!!). DH was done as a baby.
Kirsty :goodvibes:
Personally, I would get it done earlier. But that's just me. Besides, it sounds like you encountered no problems with the way things went, so I guess it really is just a personal choice for you.
Hopefully there is someone that has done it both ways and can give you a clearer answer.
Good Luck :goodvibes:
miloand4
11-06-2008, 06:28
I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. I personally had no troubles when my boys were done. As for people researching the procedure before having it done, I think that is a given. No one would go into it without knowing what it was about.
I researched it till I was overloaded with info, how else would I be able to make a decision??
I am glad that you had no trouble when your boys where done also glad that they had no trouble. Just hope people research both sides before making a choice as it can be life changing for the person you are choosing to have it done for.
GiftofLife
11-06-2008, 08:02
I am glad that you had no trouble when your boys where done also glad that they had no trouble. Just hope people research both sides before making a choice as it can be life changing for the person you are choosing to have it done for.
Again, I am sure that everyone who chooses to go down the path of circumcision has researched it FULLY!!
I will ask that if this is all people have to say, could they please refrain from posting in here. I will be reporting any further off topic comments. So unless you are here to ask about someones experience, or offer your own, please do not bother.
miloand4
11-06-2008, 11:15
Im sorry I thought this was a thread for people who have had their boys curcumsised and information or questions in regards to having it done as I said I have had one of my boys done thought I may have been able to give helpfull information regarding this. I was not trying to start a debate. I would have loved to have been able to have a positive outcome for my son and am truely glad for those who have.
GiftofLife
11-06-2008, 11:21
Im sorry I thought this was a thread for people who have had their boys curcumsised and information or questions in regards to having it done as I said I have had one of my boys done thought I may have been able to give helpfull information regarding this. I was not trying to start a debate. I would have loved to have been able to have a positive outcome for my son and am truely glad for those who have.
No, I'm very sorry. You are right. You are more than welcome to share your experience. Just because your outcome was not the desired one, does not make your experience any less valid than the next.
I've gotten a bit defensive due to some other comments made, and I jumped the gun. I had just really hoped to make this thread a positive one for people, iykwim. :goodvibes:
sam's mum
11-06-2008, 11:23
Again, I am sure that everyone who chooses to go down the path of circumcision has researched it FULLY!!
I will ask that if this is all people have to say, could they please refrain from posting in here. I will be reporting any further off topic comments. So unless you are here to ask about someones experience, or offer your own, please do not bother.
DH wanted DS done, and he did no research at all. He still wants to get him done, but refuses to do any research or reading. I have told him that I am totally willing to sit down and talk about it, but not until he looked into it and has more of a reason for it than - My mum says we should.
Unfortunately not everyone does do research. I have been reading but not posting, but I just wanted to address that point.
I am sorry for what your brother went through. :hugs:
GiftofLife
11-06-2008, 11:26
DH wanted DS done, and he did no research at all. He still wants to get him done, but refuses to do any research or reading. I have told him that I am totally willing to sit down and talk about it, but not until he looked into it and has more of a reason for it than - My mum says we should.
Unfortunately not everyone does do research. I have been reading but not posting, but I just wanted to address that point.
I am sorry for what your brother went through. :hugs:
Well I have to say that I am a little shocked that someone would want to do it without looking into it carefully. But he is a man, so I'll excuse him :laughing:
CocktailBubba
11-06-2008, 18:56
Hii,
Just thought i would add my experience !
I had DS circumcised using the plastibel method and it just acctually fell off last monday !
He was 5 months when it got put on and it took 2 and a half weeks to drop off.
The clinic I took DS to does it until 12y.o and apparently the admin lady had her son done when he was 9 and had no problems- thats how she knows it doesnt hurt them.. so she said !
But yes.. had no probs what so ever :yelclap: !
GiftofLife
11-06-2008, 19:58
Hii,
Just thought i would add my experience !
I had DS circumcised using the plastibel method and it just acctually fell off last monday !
He was 5 months when it got put on and it took 2 and a half weeks to drop off.
The clinic I took DS to does it until 12y.o and apparently the admin lady had her son done when he was 9 and had no problems- thats how she knows it doesnt hurt them.. so she said !
But yes.. had no probs what so ever :yelclap: !
Sounds like you might have to gone to the same place I did with DS#3. Was it at Mt Gravatt?? I found the Dr there to be wonderful. He was extremely informative (even though I knew it all, lol) and overall just very helpful.
Glad to hear you had no problems. The plastibel method is great, and the chance of complications is really very minimal.
AliyahBlake
12-06-2008, 10:15
Just a reminder to everyone that this is a pro-circ thread so we should all be supportive of each other and not have to put up defences!! :)
I had my DS circed with the plastibell method at 8 weeks of age. He coped very well with it pain-wise - he actually smiled and gurgled at the nurse while the doctor performed the procedure! There was no infection afterwards. The only small issue was that as the ring was coming off (around day 10) a tiny thread of skin was stuck on it so I had to get the doctor to remove the ring. Subsequently there is a tiny bit of scarring, but the doctor assures me this will disappear with age and there will be no lasting effects. At almost 7 months of age it is already looking much better.
ringneck
12-06-2008, 19:44
hi great thread, if we have a boy we will be getting him circumcised, i believe it is more hygienic and dp has it done. i will be researching some more into it when we are pregnant of course, and since i seen this thread thought i would ask what they do exactly in the procedure? i have seen it on tv but they dont show what the dr actually does. how long in your experience did it take to heal? just whatever other advice you can offer.
cheers alana
2boybubs
12-06-2008, 19:52
Just out of curiosity, even if I explained my reasons, would you consider me any less of a monster?? I think not. As much as you say there was no judgment intended in your post, there clearly was.
I started this thread to answer questions of people who are wanting to go ahead with circumcision, not to justify myself to people who are against it.
I have plenty of reasons for having it done, but I would prefer not to share them with people who it would make no difference to.
Well actually I don't know why it is done but there must be some benefits to it seeing as though it still is a fairly common procedure, having a 16 month old son and one due in 4 weeks I thought it would be something I should know about. Like I said before I wasn't passing any judgement on you, I wasn't even questioning your beliefs...
GiftofLife
12-06-2008, 20:01
Well actually I don't know why it is done but there must be some benefits to it seeing as though it still is a fairly common procedure, having a 16 month old son and one due in 4 weeks I thought it would be something I should know about. Like I said before I wasn't passing any judgement on you, I wasn't even questioning your beliefs...
Actually, no. I have no issues.
There is a whole 'Discuss It' area where you can ask any questions you have. All you need to do is start a new thread.
I have a feeling that if you had been on the receiving end of some of the abuse that I have been, regarding this issue, you may also be wary of sharing your reasons.
2boybubs
12-06-2008, 20:03
I did it for the lack of infections, fewer STDs, lack of penile cancer in circ'd men. My MIL rang me a few months after he was done and demanded I do it as she'd seen a doco on it. Of course she'd forgotten we'd told her he was already done (she's a total space cadet - love her to bits tho!!). DH was done as a baby.
Kirsty :goodvibes:
This is actually what I was looking for but I can research it elsewhere, thanks anyway.
GiftofLife
12-06-2008, 20:06
hi great thread, if we have a boy we will be getting him circumcised, i believe it is more hygienic and dp has it done. i will be researching some more into it when we are pregnant of course, and since i seen this thread thought i would ask what they do exactly in the procedure? i have seen it on tv but they dont show what the dr actually does. how long in your experience did it take to heal? just whatever other advice you can offer.
cheers alana
The method used to circumcise my boys, was the plastibel one. If you google it, you will probably get a better explanation than what I can give, lol.
But basically, the foreskin is separated from the head of the penis and a plastic ring shaped device is place under the foreskin. Then a piece of string (I'm sure it would have a more technical name, but it's really just sting, lol) is tied around the foreskin holding the plastibel in place, does that make sense?? The excess skin is removed and over about a week, the remaining skin drops off and the circ is complete.
For my boys, healing time took about a week. Although I think they were only in any real discomfort on the actual day of the procedure. In the first few days after, I do believe they may have been slightly uncomfortable, but they were still happy and smiley and no different to usual.
Within about a week and a half, the healing was complete and their penises looked like any other circed penis.
HTH :goodvibes:
ringneck
12-06-2008, 20:20
yeah thanks for that, just had a look at the different methods some of them are a bit scary but the plastibel seems the most common and least painful.
so glad i found this thread so many people get hot headed and think you are disgusting when you mention circ, but all the guys i have know who weren't done have wished they were.
plus what boys are hygienic from what i have read there are a lot of infections that they can get from lack of hygiene.
My three boys are done. :yes:
I think we were at the same clinic as you GOL.. the one in Mt. Gravatt.
Dr. Loth did all 3 of my boys.. and he even REMEMBERED us when we brought Gabs in to be done.. and the boys had been done over 2 years before that!
The twins were done at about 6 weeks old and they were fine, no crying, nothing.. just normal little bubs. there's came off in about 5-6 days.
Gabriel wasn't done till 12 weeks, as I was umming and uuuhing about getting it done this time, but did decide to. And honestly he was NOT a happy camper the first day. It made me feel terrible, but I'm glad I had it done, as my DH's family has a history of penile infections and problems, so it was important to me that everything I can do in regards to minimising that risk is done.
My MIL is an aged care nurse, and she also cared for my FIL at home before he passed on. In her experience (and she's been doing it for 40 years) she said that the number of infections and problems that non-circed men have in later years is just awful. And as she worked with demetia patients, she said some of the hardest things to do are shower/clean a non-circed man properly, when they are non co-operating, and also trying to get them to stop touching it when they do have an infection, as they don't understand it, all they know is that they are in pain.
DH is done and BIL is done, FIL wasn't done and had major problems, my MIL's brother wasn't done when he was born as he was premmie... and he had to get it done later in life as he was experiencing so many problems.
So for us, family history was the main reason. This bubs will be done too, but I'll definitely be getting him done earlier than what Gabs was... coz he was sooo unhappy that first day. Broke my heart. :(
And yeah, hygene.... how many young guys do you know who would go and have a shower and wash themselves properly after a drunken sexual escapade at a party???
Mathermy
12-06-2008, 20:37
The method used to circumcise my boys, was the plastibel one. If you google it, you will probably get a better explanation than what I can give, lol.
I have to admit this is exactly what I did last night and searched "plastibell circumcision" as I had never even heard of it before. The first listing was one of the most confronting images I have seen in my life :eek: , I imagined I would find something much,much different:(
GiftofLife
12-06-2008, 20:46
My three boys are done. :yes:
I think we were at the same clinic as you GOL.. the one in Mt. Gravatt.
Dr. Loth did all 3 of my boys.. and he even REMEMBERED us when we brought Gabs in to be done.. and the boys had been done over 2 years before that!
The twins were done at about 6 weeks old and they were fine, no crying, nothing.. just normal little bubs. there's came off in about 5-6 days.
Gabriel wasn't done till 12 weeks, as I was umming and uuuhing about getting it done this time, but did decide to. And honestly he was NOT a happy camper the first day. It made me feel terrible, but I'm glad I had it done, as my DH's family has a history of penile infections and problems, so it was important to me that everything I can do in regards to minimising that risk is done.
My MIL is an aged care nurse, and she also cared for my FIL at home before he passed on. In her experience (and she's been doing it for 40 years) she said that the number of infections and problems that non-circed men have in later years is just awful. And as she worked with demetia patients, she said some of the hardest things to do are shower/clean a non-circed man properly, when they are non co-operating, and also trying to get them to stop touching it when they do have an infection, as they don't understand it, all they know is that they are in pain.
DH is done and BIL is done, FIL wasn't done and had major problems, my MIL's brother wasn't done when he was born as he was premmie... and he had to get it done later in life as he was experiencing so many problems.
So for us, family history was the main reason. This bubs will be done too, but I'll definitely be getting him done earlier than what Gabs was... coz he was sooo unhappy that first day. Broke my heart. :(
And yeah, hygene.... how many young guys do you know who would go and have a shower and wash themselves properly after a drunken sexual escapade at a party???
Thanks for sharing your experience OJandMe. Only my youngest DS was done at Mt.Gravatt and I think the Dr's name was Dr.Russell. My eldest two were done in Newcastle, one by Dr.Sales and one by Dr.Docker ( :laughing: His name always makes me laugh, it's very appropriate though).
I actually found the opposite of what you did to be true. DS#3 was done at around 9-10 weeks and he seemed to notice it the least. From memory, I don't think he even cried during the procedure. My eldest was done at around 8 weeks and he seemed the most fussy immediately after. DS#2 was done at 6 weeks and he was also fine, he came out and had some boob and went to sleep for about 2 hours. When he woke up he was happy and fine.
I think it really depends on the child. Although I definitely think the earlier the better.
Yeah it's the Russell clinic. Dr. Russel and Dr. Loth are the two Dr's there. We had Dr. Loth both times as Dr. Russell was away.
Gabriel is not a good 'discomfort' 'pain' or 'sick' baby... lol... OMG you'd think his world is crashing down when his bum gets a bit red...
Any bump, thump or knock and you'd think he was being killed. :rolleyes:
Can't wait till he gets the flu..... :dizzy:
CocktailBubba
15-06-2008, 17:30
Sounds like you might have to gone to the same place I did with DS#3. Was it at Mt Gravatt?? I found the Dr there to be wonderful. He was extremely informative (even though I knew it all, lol) and overall just very helpful.
Glad to hear you had no problems. The plastibel method is great, and the chance of complications is really very minimal.
Hi,
Umm no, we had it done at Circumwise in Forrest Hill.
Thanks, yeh we're glad we had no probs aswell... I would have felt awful if anything went wrong but they were fantastic and bubs is fine.
We're going back for our follow-up Thursday but all looks good.
rainbow road
19-06-2008, 20:28
I know I'm not a mum but I am a sister/aunt of circed kids and to be honest, I never have and never will understand the utter objections towards it. As I'm 19 and my brothers are young, I often take them out during holidays e.t.c.
I recall when the youngest bubby was about 6 months old I took him into the changing room at a shopping centre and got absolutely ACCOSTED by one woman, verbally abusing me for both being a 'teenage mother' (love assumptions!) and for circumcising 'my boy'. She told me I was akin to a child abuser, wouldn't be surprised if I beat him up, and she would call DOCs on me because clearly I wasn't fit to be a parent.
I merely changed the baby's nappy and walked out, absolutely seething.
I'm 100% pro-choice on the matter - I probably will circ my children if I have boys - I am Jewish but that wouldn't be my reasoning under any circumstances.
And finally, when people say circumcision is inflicting agonising pain upon a child? I'm not going to try to create a scale upon which the pain can be measured (obviously i haven't been done so I can't judge...) but all my brothers were done at 8 days old, we were all present and the only adverse reaction was hiccups in the middle kid. The other 2 didn't cry at all.
But I definitely think the younger the child the better off.
Anyway that's my experience as a non-mother, but rather than altering my opinions based on the irrational woman I encountered (just reiternating - i'm not anti anti-circumcison, I just believe the choice is up to the parent and they shouldn't judge either way) I have a much greater respect for women who accept and respect anothers decision regardless of their own opinions.
Sorry that's my vent :D
leonie80
23-06-2008, 15:32
my son was circumsized when he was about 15 months old. we went to a great doctor in sydney, really reasonably priced too and he did a fantastic job. Really happy with the end result.
HI all,
Well i thought i would tell you all about my son. He is 2.5 years old now , we had made the decision to get him done when he was 3 months old.
When he was 3 months old , he got a very bad UTI , he has high temps , and was very very sick , ended up in hospital for a week on drips and meds.
He had scans done of his kidneys and bladder , which turned out that he has Renal Reflux, it getting better as he gorws ( thank goodness).
After talking to the Drs they advides us to get it done , as we wanted to avoid all the risk's of him getting more UTI's which would damage his kidneys more and make him more sick.
He was done when he was 6 motnsh old, he was put under general and just went to sleep in my arms then woke uo wth me by his side. He did not feel pain after at all, every now and then he would wince when he wee'd ut it mush hav stung a little but no crying at all from it.
I think every parent makes the decision thats best for them and if others dont like it to bad i say!
thats about it , short & sweet but thats why we got our son done and will def not be railroded into thinking that we have done the worng thing ( not that many have said this to my face would not have the balls to ). thanks for reading.
Mother of Liam
30-06-2008, 21:56
Hi all,
My husband and I agreed from day 1 that if we had a boy we would def get him circumsized.
We ensured that we had a dr organised to do it when we found out we were having a boy.
Liam was done at 5 days old. He was asleep when they brought him back to us after being circumsized and he didn't whimper or anything in the following days. He will not remember having it done at this early age.
Our reasons are;
1. All boys in my husbands family were circumsized and my 3 brothers were also.
2. My 1 brother didn't bother to get his 2 boys done and they have both now had to have it done at 7yrs old and 3yrs old because the foreskin was too tight and so were in a considerable amount of pain afterwards.
3. I work at a childrens hospital and have seen the amount of boys that have had to be circumsized later in life due to infections.
4. We live in the Kimberlies (tropics) so with the humidity it's a more hygenic.
5. It looks better.
6. Thinking of all the dirt etc that must live in an uncircumsized foreskin makes me feel sick. As evidence suggests, circumcision prevents the spread of diseases.
:)
happytobehere
04-07-2008, 15:33
are there other methods people have used? I want my son to be circumsized but am soooo scared that I will cause him unnecessary pain...
what different methods did people have done on their child/ren?
I also just googled plastibell. God it looks painful
First, good on you for starting this thread.:yelclap:
Second, I am pro-CHOICE not pro or anti circ
Third, Those with very pro or anti views often make it hard for those in the middle trying to get good information or advise from parents that have been through it.
My son was booked into hospital for a circumcision on medical grounds ( too too tight foreskin) so the choice was to be taken from us, as he was 'ballooning up' and in dreadful pain. When he went under anaesthetic they found he had another medical problem and they did not do the circ, they just gave it a bit of a snip to release the pressure as they wanted us back in 6 months for repair of a hyperspadia(sp)( the 'hole was underneath the head instead of at the end of it) and may need to use the foreskin in that procedure.
In the hospital however we were in with 8 boys having circ's and the nurse was not so non-judgemental and made the experience 'not so nice' So I think stick by your choice and let others be whatever they decide to do.
I do think however that a lot of decisions are based on do what the baby's dad has... I don't think that is the ideal reason not to circ or to circ. JMO
My son is 1 week old and we are having him circumcised. The only thing I'm really concerned about is he is a real squirmer. How do they restrain them? I would hate myself if he squirmed in the middle of the snip and something went wrong. I read somewhere they strap them to the table...is that true?
Our reasons for doing it are mostly hygenic. And I don't want him to have to go through it later in life.
Ange&Seth
07-07-2008, 13:19
Babywez - My son wasn't strapped to anything, he was held still by a nurse and myself. Best to ask this question of the dr who's performing the procedure :yes:
Ange&Seth
07-07-2008, 13:21
I also just googled plastibell. God it looks painful
I didn't think my DS's plastibell circ looked painful at all - I think alot of the 'google' stuff is the worst case scenarios. It's a bit like the old saying 'when I do good no one remembers, when I do bad no one forgets' KWIM?
Babywez - My son wasn't strapped to anything, he was held still by a nurse and myself. Best to ask this question of the dr who's performing the procedure :yes:
We have our consultation on the 14th, I will definitely ask. My husband will have the week off work when we have him done, so he'll probably be able to help the nurse.
futfo112
10-07-2008, 18:55
I just wanted to say thanks gift. I was reading the other posts and I can see why you got defensive.
How about a guys view on it? And not only that but I'm gay so I know a bit about penis'.
First thing I want to clear up is I remember nothing about me getting it done. I got it done when I was younger and I didn't even know I had it done until I learned about uncircumcised penis'. I asked my mom about it and she said the only time I cried was when they took me from her.
I want to make it clear too that you women should never feel guilty about choices you make with your children as you all seem to love and care for them.
One thing I can attest to is hygiene, a cut penis is way more cleaner by a lot and this is no joke I've been with guys that were uncircumcised and sex life went to the pits because I didn't know how to say that I didn't want to do anything because it smelled. My personal opinion is cut penis' look so much more aesthetically better. I don't care what anyone says, they simply look better. My one friend who isn't circumcised says girls think I have a sock on my penis. He's planning on getting it done I think because of social and culture but he says he has physical problems.
I have no problem with sensitivity or anything related. What ever anyone tells you is BS. I've never had a problem ejaculating.
I'm sure I had more pain being birthed! In fact I did I got stuck on my mom's hip or something and they had to use salad spoons to get me out lol. Well best of luck to you guys and don't listen to any one who says anything bad to you. If you have any questions I'd be glad to answer them for anyone.
Just wanted to add our experience from yesterday to the list. We had a 1:30 appointment with Dr. Read in Southport. He has been doing circs for over 20 years, and uses the plastibell method. The procedure took less than 10 minutes. My husband and I waited in the waiting room and he was brought back out to us, took half a bottle and slept for the rest of the afternoon.
He woke up, and was obviously in some discomfort. He wasn't hungry and screamed quite a bit, reducing me to tears on a couple of ocassions. 24 hours later, he has calmed back down and is eating again and back to "normal".
I do not regret having it done, but it has not been "easy". No one wants to cause their child pain, or to hear them cry like they are in pain. But I do believe this is best for him in the long run and I'm glad we did it now and not later. He was 3 weeks 1 day old when we had it done.
Dr. Read said that the number of boys who are circ'd is more realistically 40-50% as opposed to the 10% that drs and midwives would have you believe. He also said he circs boys and men of all ages, and says it is much better to do on babies and you wind up with a better result.
WarriorMummy
23-07-2008, 15:57
we had ds1 done at 3 yrs
not cos we wanted to but cos he had to have it done for medical reasons
we would have had it done straight away but no1 would do it in our area
and we didnt get ds2 done cos ds1 wasnt and we didnt want them to be diff - look how that turned out
soo much better to get it done straight away cos it also put off ds1s potty training and he had a few small infections too
trust me the horror stories of having a circ are minimal to those from ppl who had kids with bad infections and even 1 who was so bad he had to have half removed poor boy
the risks are different and the choice urs
sam's mum
23-07-2008, 15:58
Just wanted to add our experience from yesterday to the list. We had a 1:30 appointment with Dr. Read in Southport. He has been doing circs for over 20 years, and uses the plastibell method. The procedure took less than 10 minutes. My husband and I waited in the waiting room and he was brought back out to us, took half a bottle and slept for the rest of the afternoon.
He woke up, and was obviously in some discomfort. He wasn't hungry and screamed quite a bit, reducing me to tears on a couple of ocassions. 24 hours later, he has calmed back down and is eating again and back to "normal".
I do not regret having it done, but it has not been "easy". No one wants to cause their child pain, or to hear them cry like they are in pain. But I do believe this is best for him in the long run and I'm glad we did it now and not later. He was 3 weeks 1 day old when we had it done.
Dr. Read said that the number of boys who are circ'd is more realistically 40-50% as opposed to the 10% that drs and midwives would have you believe. He also said he circs boys and men of all ages, and says it is much better to do on babies and you wind up with a better result.
that is an interesting thing for Dr Read to say, and I would love to know where he gets his figures from. The official figures from medicare would disagree
Table A6 -- Rate of circumcision of males
less than 6 months of age for year ended December
1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
NSW 12.6 13.0 13.3 14.3 14.7 15.5 16.3 16.6 17.5 17.9 18.5
Qld 19.2 19.3 20.9 20.3 21.1 19.4 19.5 18.7 19.2 18.7 17.9
Vic 5.3 5.2 5.4 5.3 5.3 6.1 6.3 6.2 5.8 5.8 6.1
SA 14.4 14.9 15.5 14.0 14.5 14.8 14.5 13.5 13.9 13.0 13.3
WA 6.6 7.0 6.3 6.3 5.9 5.8 5.9 6.4 6.1 5.4 6.2
Tas 10.5 10.4 10.3 9.3 7.9 8.2 4.7 1.7 1.3 1.4 1.1
ACT 4.1 5.0 5.2 6.7 6.0 6.2 5.1 5.1 5.3 6.9 5.2
NT 7.7 7.9 6.5 7.6 6.4 7.1 5.3 2.7 2.8 2.7 2.9
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Aus 11.3 11.4 11.9 12.0 12.2 12.6 12.8 12.7 12.6 13.0 12.8
Source of data: Medicare Australia
http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au
I have deleted a bunch of off topic posts from this thread. Gift is asking about ppl's experiences with circumcision in this thread.
If you want to discuss other circ topics, please feel free to start a new thread.
Cheers
meredithlinda
24-07-2008, 19:20
We had DS done at 5 days, plastibell method. They got us to rub cream on the area for a few hours beforehand so he wouldn't feel it. I didn't realise they would be taking him from me (I thought I'd go with him), and burst into tears as they took him away.
They told me he was fine, and didn't cry, and he certainly looked fine when we went in. I gave him a feed and there were no problems.
Later that evening he was evidently in a lot of pain - which we attributed to the circumcision, but it turns out he had problems with his intestines and ended up in hospital for a few weeks a short time later.
(Incidentally we got a lot of unspoken judgement from the doctors and nurses while in hospital - oh well)
WarriorMummy
24-07-2008, 19:36
here is a dilemma for you
i have 1 son done ( due to medical reasons)
1 son not done ( cos his brother wasnt done and i wanted them to be the same)
so if this 1 is a boy what do i do ??????
confused
JimJamsMum
26-07-2008, 17:20
Hi, I just wanted to add my experience. DS was four weeks old when he was done. I was against it but DH was adamant and I was too tired and hormonal to fight about it anymore. DS was given a local anaesthetic and the surgeon cut off the foreskin (he doesn't like the plastibell method). I cried the entire time but to be completely honest DS did not seem at all concerned about it I think it upset me more than him. It was a very simple procedure and I have to admit it wasn't traumatic for DS one bit. And I can assure you I was looking for signs of trauma so I could point them out to DH.
People make the choices that they think are best for their children. It's all anyone can ask.
As for boys caring about looking like each other, I will tell you this story: my mum is a teacher and one day she caught two boys sitting up the back of the class "comparing notes". She sat the kids down and gave them a little speech about how "all girls are the same and all boys are the same. One boy put up his hand and said, "not all boys are the same. Some have knobs one them and some don't". He was really matter of fact about it and it showed that boys really don't care if they look like their mates at all.
StillDad
01-08-2008, 10:33
How about a guys view on it?
Or another?
There was never a choice for my parents ... since we are Jewish.
I don't remember it at all ... nor does my son or anyone else that I know. We all had our "bris" (the religious ceremony where it is done) when we were a week old. (I had my son's video taped but it was stolen many years ago.)
No complaints here ...
Ok, well done for setting up a thread like this and I too feel that to explain why we circd would cause people to criticise.
I however, will tell you why. We circd for religious reasons. Jake who's 5 was done at 8 days old which is culturally when we do it. He cried and then came back into my arms fast asleep. We've had no problems since.
Ben and Matthew were born at 32 weeks and therefore we weren't able to get them done for ages. In fact they were about 3.5 months old when we were finally given the go ahead to get them done. I think they were in more pain and were much much more aware about what was going on. In hindsight, I still would have had them done but I would have had them done under a general.
I think this is a great thread and thank you to giftoflife for starting it up and well done for standing your ground and thank you to xkwzit for moderating this thread. I know it's a hard one to do so.
Our son was done at approximately 8 weeks with the plastibell method by Dr Russell as well. Took like 10 minutes, there was no crying, it was numbed before hand. He was brought out to us, he had a feed and then went to sleep.
He was in a little discomfort for the first day - we use cloth - and we discovered he was more comfortable in a disposable or very loose cloth. And it just fell off after about 10 days. I would recommend earlier, rather than later.
A friend's little boy has just been done recently due to medical reasons and he was nearly 2 so he also needed a shot of pethedine before hand to just calm him a little, but again no side effects for him either.
Thanks Sharon,
But modding this is no more trouble than any of the other polarising parenting issues. These issues, like anything, only become problematic when they are blown out of proportion.
Cheers All
this is interesting. Ok, I will ask it. Please give ONE of your reasons. Just one.
Hi All!!
We just had our little boy circumcised by Dr Loth at Mt Gravatt 10 days ago. He seemed quite happy after the procedure and then he was fine for a couple days. Then as the plastibell started to separate off he has become a bit cranky especially when we had to apply the betadine ointment. We took him back today as we were worried that the foreskin was a little tight as I could not push the skin back far enough to clean out the smegma. We only saw the nurse and she forced his foreskin back and cleaned out the smegma and then told us that because of his age (11.5 months) his puppy fat was pushing the foreskin forward and had re-adhered to the head of his penis so she had to peel it off. So now we are back home (5 hours drive from Brisbane) and we have to repeat what she did ever day until he is older and his puppy fat is gone (2-3 years of age). We are back onto Betadine for 2 days & salt baths for 2 weeks. Did anyone have any problems like what I have experienced. I am just finding it very distressing... Any answers would help greatly.
Thanks
Hi there,
We didn't have any problems like that, as all our sons were done in the first 3 months they were born.
I don't have any advice except maybe just keep up the betadine and salt baths... and let the penis do it's own thing. If he hasn't already started playing with it, he will soon, and then he'll be stretching it and tugging on it in the bath anyway, and that will most likely be all he needs to do with it.
I'm not sure. If you're still worried about it maybe go back and see Dr. Loth again, I always found him very helpful, and he was the Dr who has done all 3 of our sons.
Hi there,
We didn't have any problems like that, as all our sons were done in the first 3 months they were born.
I don't have any advice except maybe just keep up the betadine and salt baths... and let the penis do it's own thing. If he hasn't already started playing with it, he will soon, and then he'll be stretching it and tugging on it in the bath anyway, and that will most likely be all he needs to do with it.
I'm not sure. If you're still worried about it maybe go back and see Dr. Loth again, I always found him very helpful, and he was the Dr who has done all 3 of our sons.
Yes he has started to play with it in the bath. When he plays with it, it doesn't seem to worry him but the betadine and the whole cleaning thing makes him go crazy. Screaming, biting etc. We were meant to see Dr Russell today so I was bit PO'd that we only saw a nurse especially since we travelled 5 hours down and 5 hours back all in one day.
If we have a boy next time I will be getting it done straight away, it just took me so long to find a place that would do it "without medical reasons"
Thanks!
mummyjessie86
05-08-2008, 19:47
I had my boy done the day we left hospital (4 days old). I had him in a Private Catholic hospital and they had a Dr come to the hospital every friday or saturday and he collects all boys being done all at once and takes them off to a room and does it, then delivers them back :D
4 Boys had "the chop" the same time as DS and all went well. It was done using the plastibell procedure, with local anaesthetic injected at the base of the penis and took the doctor 5-10 minutes to complete. As for aftercare, because they were done so young, we had to use nappy liners in both cloth and disposable for 1 month as well as keeping the tip of the penis smothered with vaseline. Once the plastic bit fell off, the use of vaseline was to be continued but now over the enire penis.
My decision was based on hygeine, STDs and bubs dad is done also. Last night i was speaking with a friend i haven't spoken to for quite some time. And he asked if i got DS circ. I told him i did and he continued to tell me he had suffered from "phimosis" (google it :D ) and he had just gone through a pretty serious surgery to have it corrected - at the age of 19! Pretty hard to recover from considering there are the uncontrolable morning visitors etc. Apparently there is no way of knowing wether your child will have this condition until they begin to develop into adult-hood.
I researched circ. before getting DS done, but never came across this condition :confused: (maybe i didnt read enough). But just thought it might be nice to mention it to anyone reading through this thread that might be considering circ.
Hope this info helps some readers?
Phyllis Stein
06-08-2008, 00:22
Yes he has started to play with it in the bath. When he plays with it, it doesn't seem to worry him but the betadine and the whole cleaning thing makes him go crazy. Screaming, biting etc. We were meant to see Dr Russell today so I was bit PO'd that we only saw a nurse especially since we travelled 5 hours down and 5 hours back all in one day.
Oh my, your poor baby boy! :crying::crying: He sounds like he's in so much pain. :gloomy: I truly hope he has no long term effects from this experience, besides the obvious lack of a foreskin of course.
Hi All!!
We just had our little boy circumcised by Dr Loth at Mt Gravatt 10 days ago. He seemed quite happy after the procedure and then he was fine for a couple days. Then as the plastibell started to separate off he has become a bit cranky especially when we had to apply the betadine ointment. We took him back today as we were worried that the foreskin was a little tight as I could not push the skin back far enough to clean out the smegma. We only saw the nurse and she forced his foreskin back and cleaned out the smegma and then told us that because of his age (11.5 months) his puppy fat was pushing the foreskin forward and had re-adhered to the head of his penis so she had to peel it off. So now we are back home (5 hours drive from Brisbane) and we have to repeat what she did ever day until he is older and his puppy fat is gone (2-3 years of age). We are back onto Betadine for 2 days & salt baths for 2 weeks. Did anyone have any problems like what I have experienced. I am just finding it very distressing... Any answers would help greatly.
Thanks
Oh my god! Your poor baby! I would have smacked that nurse!
Any answers would help greatly.
Thanks
I would call back the clinic and ask to speak to your doctor. It does fall forward for want of a better word and does need pushing back - we had to do it for our little man - but it didn't bother him in the slightest. But we weren't actually pulling on his penis, just on his chubby bits at the base, sorry I'm not describing it very well :(
Oh and we didn't have to do it for very long either. So I would definitely call up and speak to the doctor.
I would call back the clinic and ask to speak to your doctor. It does fall forward for want of a better word and does need pushing back - we had to do it for our little man - but it didn't bother him in the slightest. But we weren't actually pulling on his penis, just on his chubby bits at the base, sorry I'm not describing it very well :(
Oh and we didn't have to do it for very long either. So I would definitely call up and speak to the doctor.
Thanks - that's great!! You really helped settled me down heaps!!
Thanks - that's great!! You really helped settled me down heaps!!
We just had our 2 week check up and there was some adhesion like what you're talking about, but the dr. just separated it and said when we're bathing him or changing his nappy just to make sure it stayed separated and eventually it would stop doing it. It doesn't hurt him and is real easy if you just check at each nappy change.
We just had our 2 week check up and there was some adhesion like what you're talking about, but the dr. just separated it and said when we're bathing him or changing his nappy just to make sure it stayed separated and eventually it would stop doing it. It doesn't hurt him and is real easy if you just check at each nappy change.
THANKS!!! We finally had to only un-adhear (if that is even a word...) once today! And it was bearly adheared at all. It is FINALLY looking like I thought it would.
So glad to hear that this has happened to others as well as us.
Hopefully tomorrow it won't need any real attention other than cleaning of course:)
YAY!!! It is finally turning out!!:smiliedance:
On a further note - he was so unsettled due to terrible ear infection... I felt so bad when the Dr told me, I was just putting his crankiness down to the circumcision....
You can look video and photo circumcised male (circumcisionmale.info/article_en.html) and a lot information of...
readytogo
10-08-2008, 19:15
DP and I have decided if we have a boy, he will be circumsised. I just want to know how soon after birth can it be done? And I'd like to get it done once he is established well on the breast so i can offer that if he does get upset at any stage.
It's usually done as a newborn. It only take 4mins. I always feed mine straight after in the waiting room. Hope this helps
Jenny
readytogo
10-08-2008, 19:35
Thats what I thought if I offer the boob staright after and if he gets upset at all, always comforts the bubs at work (NICU) so hoping it works with mine! I dont really want to wait and would rather get it done as soon as we can but just wasnt sure what the minimum age would be.
FiveInTheBed
10-08-2008, 20:02
We had both of our boys done in Adelaide, because they don't don't do it here, and were told it had to be before 4weeks. so it was a little costly in the end with travel and accommodation... but all worth it...lovely dr, lovely nurses and staff, we had the Plasti bell method,I had to hold off a feed til after so they could have a feed straight after to help settle them, you stay for an hour or so, til they do a wee and check for bleeding, and the nurses ring later that night to see if it is all okay, and the doc after giving us a detailed run down on what he was going to do , handed over his card for us to ring him in six weeks time to let him know how it all healed up:thumbsup:
No dramas, and they fell of within a week in the nappy.
We feel we looked into it and weighed up the pro's and con's, even after our GP pretty much abused us when we asked for a referral :thumbsdown: ....we felt then and feel now we have made the right decision. We are loving giving parents who put our kids before anything, and have no regrets.:goodvibes:
readytogo
11-08-2008, 00:00
Thanks guys for the helpful info. I have had a few friends say why are you even thinking of it?? Our choice I know someone else mentioned a place in Melb that does circs so i'll have a read back and find the name. My GP has said no probs for a referral when we are sure what we are having and the time is right, she didnt didnt say anything as to why we want it.
StillDad
12-08-2008, 12:45
Ok, well done for setting up a thread like this and I too feel that to explain why we circd would cause people to criticise.
I however, will tell you why. We circd for religious reasons.
I am wondering if the criticism is an Australian cultural thing. Here - especially because we are Jewish - nobody gives it a second thought or criticizes ... it is just the right (and only) thing to do being Jewish.
Thanks guys for the helpful info. I have had a few friends say why are you even thinking of it?? Our choice I know someone else mentioned a place in Melb that does circs so i'll have a read back and find the name. My GP has said no probs for a referral when we are sure what we are having and the time is right, she didnt didnt say anything as to why we want it.
Check out www.circumcision.com.au (http://www.circumcision.com.au)
Dr Russell & Dr Loth - mentioned in previous posts also have a clinic in Melb according to their website.
I found them to be extremely helpful. My previous posts were a bit funny because I thought the Circumcision was making my son really unsettled (he was waking ever half an hour to an hour... for over a week) but it turned out to be a really bad ear infection that was making him so feral.
Dr Loth did a fantastic job, my son's willy looks great now!! He was done 3wks ago today.
I would suggest getting them done sooner rather than later, atleast within the first month after the birth, so that don't have any puppy fat (that is talked about on the above website). We waited til 11.5 months because we could not find anywhere near where we live - I ended up travelling about 5 hours drive to get my little man done. Very happy with this clinic!!!
Good Luck!!!:smiliedance:
Ange&Seth
13-08-2008, 08:07
I am wondering if the criticism is an Australian cultural thing.
I think you just hit the nail on the head!
readytogo
13-08-2008, 13:10
CoreysMummy- thanks for that info and DP and I decided we would go with Dr Russel and Dr Loth I'm a NICU nurse and all the info they have given is great and very informative. I'm also really impressed with their procedural technique. Thanks
ChelsLuke
14-08-2008, 17:39
Hi,
Im a bit of a late poster lol.
I had both of my boys done. Reasoning. Hubby. Personally im a sit on the fence person. I see both fors and against. And will admit if my DH hadnt of wanted it done its something i probably wouldnt have bothered with, soley cos well i wouldnt have thought about it. My mum is anti and my dad is all fore. BUt dh is done and wanted the kids to be the same he also wanted to be sure he could explain the cleaning thing etc.
My experience was ok. We used the same dr both times. he used numbing cream that was put on when my sons went in. We had it doen in Port Pirie, took them to A & E, handed them to the nurses 5-10 mins later bubs was bought back out and we where asked to go into a room and feed. Both our boys went in sleeping and came out the same way. The only time they cried was in the first few hrs when they weed.
Dr MArtin basically peeled the skin back and cut. They ahd a wadding of gauze wrapped just under the head. We got told if the waddign came off (it did with Aaron after 24 hrs, meant to last 5 days) then coat in a liberal amount of betpanthium (SP??) so we did.
FOr the first 24 hrs we had to cut a hole in another guaze pad and place over the penis (allowing it to poke through) to stop irritation of the nappy. Aft that it was baisc care for 5 days, only sponge bathing as the area wasnt allowed to get wet. Day 5 was a bath to soak the wadding off. As Aarons wadding fell of so early he took a bit longer to heal. I bathed him day 5. wiped him dry. CHanged his nappy later and for the first time since he had it dont used wipes. It took a bit of crea/ wadding etc (something that stuck to his tip) off and caused a bleed wiping it also caused a slight weep at incision point. So back to the cream and no wipes for a few days. After that he was fine. Still has stuff stuck to him but that is slowly coming off with each bath/change.
My oldest had a short penis, and it also was a disappearing pensi (he had alot of baby fat and his penis used to move back into the fat IYKWIM. It had to be poped out by pressing on the fat. This cause a slight reattachment and the dr pulled it seperate and we had to keep doing it. But he is fine now. We never had to use cream or anything just got told to check it at each bath/nappy change.
Our son was done at about 5weeks of age. The clinic got us to come in about an hour before the surgery, they gave him a pain killer that was a bit stronger than panadol(not sure of the name of it sorry),covered the foreskin/penis in numbing cream and put what looked like a very small condom over the penis to keep the numbing cream from rubbing off onto the nappy. We then had to wait for about 40mins to make sure the pain killer and numbing cream had started working. They then took him away (after explaining the procedure, which was one where they cut the foreskin off) we heard one short whimper a few minutes later. They then brought him back out about 10minutes later and he was asleep! There were no bandages,minimal blood, and we just had to put PLENTY of vaseline on his penis at every nappy change to prevent infection getting in and to stop his wee from burning him. There was a tiny bit of spotting for a couple of days but nothing major and it looked like a normal circ penis after about a week.Oh and it didn't seem to bother him at all, no more crying then usual while it was healing. He was a very brave boy, which is more than I can say for myself :laughing:
Just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of where to find out more. I am pregnant with my first and DP and are considering getting it done if we have a boy. We didnt realise it was such a controversial issue until the last week so now we a bit freaked out before that we had decieded we would. There is only one dr where we live that does it and he does babies in their 1st week. Just wondering if others have had thier boys done this early and what I should be doing to organise it? Any ifo/advice would be greatly apprecitated
Thanks
Hi Krissy i have recently been searching the internet for as much information on circumcision before my son gets done next week.
Unfortunately its alot easier to find information againt circumcision rather then for it.
http://www.russellmedical.com.au/
The above website is great and also has a link to two other good websites. I hope this helps you and your hubby. Please make your own informed decision and try not to be bullied either way.
Good luck with bub :wave:
10yrsApart
05-09-2008, 14:29
Just thought I would jump into the thread and share around a lighter note on this:
My MIL is dead against it and was appalled we chose to have it done... Our response "well DH is done so we wanted him to look the same as daddy" - she says "he bloody well was never done I think I would know" and I say "well excuse me Ive been up close and personal myself and he is circumsised" So this debate has been running for years now :laughing::laughing: .
DS was done at 3mths and never cried during or after the plastiball - And yes I would get our next child done too if we have a boy - thats our choice.
The Gall Family
24-09-2008, 16:12
No one has to explain there reasons on why they did get it done and why they didnt. Everyone has didnt opinions on both subjects.
My son didnt get done because that was my and the fathers decisions. BUT the decision was easy only because our two nephews got done by a private hospital and doctors and BOTH had deficulities with it.
Even now when they are 8 and 6. the oldiest has to have more surgery done.... and thats why our decision was simple
I couldnt let my son go through that if he had to.......
I dont judge no one ..... my saying is
YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR SELF AND THATS HOW YOUR DECISION WILL COME THROUGH:babydust2:
Lil Mamma
24-09-2008, 22:05
I had both my boys done when they were a few weeks old. I cried the whole time, but the procedure was very quick and both my boys were very brave. They had the plasti bell method, and only cried for a very short time until they were given back to me to BF. There were no side affects, no crying, no restlessless, nothing. We were told not to put any soap products in their bath so it didn't irritate the penis. Honestly, in my experience circ is nothing like the BS or horror stories you may read online. It was quick and my boys were more upset about immunisation than circ.
I have alot of friends who have also had their boys done, and have yet to hear about any kind of problem resulting from circumcision.
I would definetly agree that if you are considering circumcising, do it as soon as you can after the birth. I have a few friends who didnt circ, and then had to have their sons done when they were toddlers due to the medical reasons. Its a lot harder the older they are.
FiveInTheBed
24-09-2008, 22:16
Just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of where to find out more. I am pregnant with my first and DP and are considering getting it done if we have a boy. We didnt realise it was such a controversial issue until the last week so now we a bit freaked out before that we had decieded we would. There is only one dr where we live that does it and he does babies in their 1st week. Just wondering if others have had thier boys done this early and what I should be doing to organise it? Any ifo/advice would be greatly apprecitated
Thanks
Krissy...we live just over the sa/nsw border and travelled to Adelaide to get our boys done, and I believe their is a doc in kadina. They both do it within the first 4 weeks.
I hope you make an informed choice either way. :goodvibes: Like any thing there is pro's and con's...you just need to feel comfortable it is the best choice for your little one.
Just thought I would jump into the thread and share around a lighter note on this:
My MIL is dead against it and was appalled we chose to have it done... Our response "well DH is done so we wanted him to look the same as daddy" - she says "he bloody well was never done I think I would know" and I say "well excuse me Ive been up close and personal myself and he is circumsised" So this debate has been running for years now :laughing::laughing: .
DS was done at 3mths and never cried during or after the plastiball - And yes I would get our next child done too if we have a boy - thats our choice.
That is hilarious!!! She didn't know her own son was done?
worrymum
05-10-2008, 13:56
DH and I made the decision early and easily that if we had a DS, they would be done purely because DH is. I had no issue with it, and obviously neither did MIL, however, my mother told me constantly that I would be 'mutilating' my child. We had DS done at the private hospital at 5wks - luckily our GP was one of the few in our city that performed the ops. We had to go in 1hr b4 where DS was given some oral pain-killer mixed with breast milk and also a numbing cream. DH went in with him and returned about 10mins later. Apparently DS didn't make a noise. He cried for about 3-4 mins a few hours later and we gave him some more panadol. No further crying or issues. We had to put an antiseptic cream on at every nappy change and after bathtime, but that was it. I would happily have any future boys done.
nataliaandreecesmummy
28-10-2008, 15:55
Hi, I am in Darwin and our ob will not reffer babies untill they are 6 months this is at private... I was wanting to know if any one has had there bub done under GA.. I have to go bck to my ob next we for check up on the minera.. So hopefuly i can find out how they do there circ... Otherwise no other doc will do it till they are 12 months.. Do anyone else know of any one in Darwin? My Son is know 4 months old... As DH is done and we have seen all the dramas that this step brothers go through and we don't want this for our son.. Any help much Thankfuly..:)
PS I can't get over how many people get upset with this topic... :no:
Lil Mamma
01-11-2008, 16:07
:iagree:
This thread isn't a circumcision debate, the OP has asked others to share their circumcision experiences. All we can do is report the post and hope it gets removed.
The reported post is now deleted. Please be patient when you report a post. Circ is one of those sections that is a bit "special" and so the other moderators will often wait to let me deal with it, because this is my section of the board to moderate. That is why you may see a difference in response time on reported posts from this section to others, we all have our own areas and your particular moderator may not be online at the time.
Cheers all
moonblossom
01-11-2008, 22:06
All my sons are intact, but my youngest MAY have to be done later because of a tight foreskin, but I chose to wait and see how it goes, 2 1/2 years later, he seems fine, but time will tell.
So I'm finding this interesting only because I may have to choose a method...But I have to say that saddens me deeply.
Lil Mamma
01-11-2008, 22:18
The reported post is now deleted. Please be patient when you report a post. Circ is one of those sections that is a bit "special" and so the other moderators will often wait to let me deal with it, because this is my section of the board to moderate. That is why you may see a difference in response time on reported posts from this section to others, we all have our own areas and your particular moderator may not be online at the time.
Cheers all
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