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What is this? Are all our children suddenly little angels? Or are they just too "high-spirited" for words?
Everyone's been so quiet lately.
reAllytee
28-04-2008, 00:02
Heh definitely too spirited for words !
I am going insane because i now have DP home due to him losing his job. Its only been a week & im ready to throttle him.
I get sick of waiting for him to offer to help, yes i know he has to look for work etc but it doesnt take all day ffs ! Then he complains stuff isnt done BAH !
I go to rest today which is something. I got an extra 2hrs sleep this morning when Squeak went down for his nap ! Bet i dont get it tomorrow though & its my birthday !!!!
But the glory of today was DP seeing Boof at his best.
" Dad dad, lets play, lets play, daaaaad daaaaad, lets play Lego, lets play cars, lets play hide & seek, lets play........... "
This went on for 40mins.
This was after DP spending all day with him from 7am through to 3pm.
It was hilarious & i had to keep biting my lip so i didnt roar with laughter !
DP was a complete wreck by the end of it & this was an 'easy' day by all standards because he was only in the ' I want all your attention & i want it now " mood. Usually thats combined with destructo & aggressive boy which makes for a highly frustrating day especially when looking after Squeak too ! DP only had to contend with Boof !
He knows Boof can be full on but he hasnt seen him like this because usually at weekends Boof has all his attention so its all good but now that he has been home for over a week Boof has clicked !
He did say it wasnt too bad at one stage :rolleyes: I said welllllll then i will leave you with Squeak & all the chores that need to be done then shall i ????
He shut up after that !
Aaaah the joys of it all !
MustangMumma
28-04-2008, 09:59
fiasco thats what i was thinking
allyoo i hate when dh is home he does my head in, it feels like i have 3 chn to look after.
happybirthdayhappybirthday for tomorrow hope you get your rest lol
happybirthday for tomorrow Allyoo
I can't even bake you a cake and post it to you because my oven broke down last night - right in the middle of my cooking a baked dinner. 2 halfcooked chickens, semi-baked potatoes and pumpkin.
Oh well, the microwaved peas were good!!
I hate long weekends. I have DH at home for 3 days straight. We're all on edge all weekend.
DH doesn't like toys all over the floor, but insists on watching tv in the playroom :rolleyes:
I spent a whole day reorganising that room so the main play area is not encroaching on any pathways across the room to another door. He still finds something to whinge about.
happybirthday Ally!! Hope the boys take it easy on you today!
I could've written your post myself. I also have DF home (except he walked out of his job.. again..) and had to throw a tantrum the other day to get some help with the kids. He's been better now.
Zac has been really good lately. Kai is making up for it though.
OMG.
I'm sorry I haven't been around much lately girls.
I have absolutely NO idea what happened to the boys down at MIL's..
except for the fact that Oliver has come back an absolutely HORRIBLE, RUDE, AGGRESSIVE, absolute devil child.
And SHE CUT THEIR HAIR!!! Without asking or telling me!!! :mad::mad::crying:
They look HORRIBLE! They were looking so gorgeous, , and now they look like friggin hillbillies.
We had moved away from smacking, they were being so good.... but Oliver, OMG... since he's been back. Everyday has just been a nightmare with him.
They've come back with phrases I wish they didn't have, attitudes so horrible you'd think they were 15 yr olds.
He's SPITTING at people!
I'm just furious....
so now we're straight back to square one, WORSE than square one, because whereas they used to LOOK at me when I was talking to them, now they refuse...
Grr.. I am SO mad.
They will NEVER go there again without Carlo or I.
Happy Birthday Ally:hugs:
Im so quiet as I have been out of town for the past 5 days. As for how my little angel is......dont ask.
Happy Birthday Ally!! Have a great day!
I've been quiet because I've been quite badly depressed the last few weeks and thought I would be going back to the DR's to be put back on meds but I have somehow managed to pull myself out of it this week. Mia has been AWFUL!!! And I've got the in-laws down which hasn't helped matters but anyway it has given me a break from cooking for a couple of nights so that is good!
Big :hugs: for Gretel, De and Kat
:smiliedance: Yay for school starting again today.. Not so yay for my bubba who has gastro though :(
MustangMumma
29-04-2008, 14:45
Big :hugs: for Gretel, De and Kat
:smiliedance: Yay for school starting again today.. Not so yay for my bubba who has gastro though :(
:hugs:poor little mite
Happy Birthday Ally!! Have a great day!
I've been quiet because I've been quite badly depressed the last few weeks and thought I would be going back to the DR's to be put back on meds but I have somehow managed to pull myself out of it this week. Mia has been AWFUL!!! And I've got the in-laws down which hasn't helped matters but anyway it has given me a break from cooking for a couple of nights so that is good!
:hugs::hugs: this is the week of the awful children ds is acting like a big feral
MustangMumma
29-04-2008, 14:48
OMG.
I'm sorry I haven't been around much lately girls.
I have absolutely NO idea what happened to the boys down at MIL's..
except for the fact that Oliver has come back an absolutely HORRIBLE, RUDE, AGGRESSIVE, absolute devil child.
And SHE CUT THEIR HAIR!!! Without asking or telling me!!! :mad::mad::crying:
They look HORRIBLE! They were looking so gorgeous, , and now they look like friggin hillbillies.
We had moved away from smacking, they were being so good.... but Oliver, OMG... since he's been back. Everyday has just been a nightmare with him.
They've come back with phrases I wish they didn't have, attitudes so horrible you'd think they were 15 yr olds.
He's SPITTING at people!
I'm just furious....
so now we're straight back to square one, WORSE than square one, because whereas they used to LOOK at me when I was talking to them, now they refuse...
Grr.. I am SO mad.
They will NEVER go there again without Carlo or I.
:hugs::hugs: WTF did your mil do to them gee how awful for you hopefully they will get better soon and start behaving for you:fingerscrossed:
Hi everyone.
OJ: I hate to say it, but sometimes I'm glad I don't have ILs to be a problem.
B2 has started BITING B1. I've no idea why.
Must be a change in the weather.
I've had the family at the shrink. The kids were chucking tantrums all day, we get there and B1 sits on his lap most of the session, letting him stroke her hair. He looks at her and asks "Is she always this adorable?"
Uh, no! This same child was kicking me, treading on me, whacking me in the face with a toy, yelling, etc etc before we came. Yeah right - you could read it in his look.
B2 mainly played, but did want to empty the water cooler and clear the african artifacts off the shelves.
At least DH has been told officially not to come in the door yelling and cranky, and not to disempower me by disciplining over the top of me.
I've had some days lately that I could gladly walk out in front of a passing truck. I know how you are feeling MiaKat, trust me.
Fiasco - It must be the kids, seriously, because Bug did the same thing (the angel mode) at the paediatricians:hair:
Kat - aww hun. We are here anytime you need to chat.:hugs:
Gret - I dont think you need me to repeat what I wrote in the sms, besides which, I dont think the forum accepts those words:hissy: I hope Ollie gets back to normal (?) soon:hugs:
MM - Feral week it is:hugs:
Everyone else, thinking of you all and sending you :goodvibes:
(off topic, sorry: Anyone see what's wrong with Viv's baby on Home and Away? Missed the crucial bit. Did they detect it's going to be a high-spirited feral too or something?:confused:)
B1 screamed :hissy: the whole way to school this morning, because I wouldn't stop the car and pick up her "spare" dummy that she was holding (and dropped). Then she screamed louder :hissy: because she dropped the other one through screaming with her mouth open too wide.
:hair:
You're going to be 4 YEARS, kid, not 4 MONTHS !! :baby:
:hair:
Oh wow.
Don't you hate it when kids are good for other's and not 'normal'! Makes us out to be suck liars. :rolleyes:
MIL basically just let them turn feral. She didn't intervene in any fights, she let them play at the park across the road unsupervised by her (because there were older kids there who said they would watch them... and they would call back "I'm here Ma" whenever she called their names.)
She gave in to every tantrum.
Let them sleep with her.
Fed them junk food.
I don't even want to think about it... :mad:
WorkingClassMum
30-04-2008, 17:25
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Aww Kayte:hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
WorkingClassMum
30-04-2008, 17:32
G stole and ate 1/2 a birthday cake with pink icing
G tore up L's birthday cards after she was told that she was not allowed to draw on them
G opened the front door whilst I was in the toilet and let a stranger in the house - BTW SHE unlocked it note to self - put keys up higher
G let the dogs out the front door, closed the door and did not tell anyone
G broke some of L's birthday pressies
G punched my Dad in the face after he tried to tickle her (well she did ask him to stop:rolleyes:) MOTH's upset cos he's wanted to do it for years
G has just drawn all over herself after getting out of the bath
G has not stopped whinging since we got home
G hasnot stopped whinging for two weeks
G threw a pair of pyjama's in the bin cos' my step-monster gave them to her and she didn't want them - of this was at Maccas in front of my step-monster
Aww Kayte now I know the meaning behind your other thread.
First of all hun, you are a great mum to G, and her independence and stubborn streak is just an indication of the intelligence and strength she has as a person that has been guided in her short life by a wonderful mum.
Having said that though, we all love our children but when things like this happens that are completely out of our control, there is nothing that says we have to particularly like our children at that time.
Im hopeless with advice so will just give you some :hugs::hugs: and let you know that we are thinking of you and wishing there was some way that we could help more.
PS - how much of that can you blame on the sugar in the cake??
WorkingClassMum
30-04-2008, 17:51
- how much of that can you blame on the sugar in the cake??
very little - the cake was after Macca's, after she hit my Dad and after she threw away her pj's - which is why she wasn't allowed any cake in the first place
the cake was Sunday night - from 11pm after I was in bed, until 4am being vomitted back up in the toilet:barf: somewhere amongst that haze the cards got ripped up - I think that's when I fell asleep on the couch...
The door and the dogs was Monday evening...
I don't know when the dragons got broken
The drawing was tonite...
Oh - I think I'm back... can I have the sunny corner?
I notice no one has asked me what B1 and B2 stand for. I can tell you it's not BANANA.
DH doesn't like me calling them Bugger 1 and Bugger 2, or Brat 1 and Brat 2 for the sensitive. But sometimes the things they do, they are little buggers.
Don't we all do it?
I have to admit I did wonder about the whole B thing but thought maybe there was some nicknames or something that it stood for. Nice to know we are all on the same wavelength when it comes to the "other" names.:laughing:
reAllytee
30-04-2008, 22:19
Dont worry fiasco i got it !!!!!
Kayte :hugs::hugs::hugs:
I think Boof called G & went on a rampage together !
I am ******* over it.
Im sick of trying & failing with him.
I cant stand to be in the same room as him let alone stop myself from thinking bad thoughts about him.
So to anyone who doesnt like the fact i hate my own child etc well tough.
I need high grade anti-depressants ... Yay another trip to the doctors & another amount we cant afford :rolleyes:
Oh & whilst Squeak isnt a feral he is certainly working on it ... We have whinging clingy stage ... Wonderful ... It was bad enough that i could really only put him down here & there because of reflux but now bah i cant even turn my back on him if he is next to me on the lounge as it results in hysteria !!!!
AAARRRRRRRRGGHHHH :hair::hair:
I don't like the idea of anti-depressants. I think that anyone that had to put up with the things that we put up with would have a right to feel the way we do.
I want the problem fixed, the kids behaviour, not to just "not care" about them being little monsters.
I knock myself out to take them places, and they just don't appreciate it. We went out to "activities in the park" this morning, a government funded free activity session. Once again, B1 sits in the shelter, or wanders off elsewhere except for sitting under the parachute in that game. I'm trying to do chicken dances and beanbag catching with B2 and keep an eye on a roaming child.
As soon as I turned my attention to watching more closely, and wondering how to get her to join in, B2 sneaks off and finds an open gate in the school, down to a creek with snakes and god knows what else. I drag him back and shut the gate, and B1 tries to open it and go out, dealing with her and B2 decides to wander off (I mean run off) and chase magpies around the cricket nets, try to get him and B1 ...
You know how it goes. I suddenly thought "why did I bother?" and grabbed the screaming kids who were protesting leaving abruptly, and had to drag B1 - B2 decided it was a good time to wander off onto the road (at a crossing, mind you) ... I then had 2 kids to carry/drag to the car with everyone yelling the whole way.
I'm not taking them anywhere any more unless they are both on leashes. If they want to act like animals ...
Why should I be drugged up to "cope" with this behaviour? shouldn't they learn to obey occasionally?
WorkingClassMum
02-05-2008, 11:44
:hugs::hugs:Fiasco:hugs::hugs:
I know you don't want to be bombed out - who does.
Maybe though some relaxants would reduce the stress and anxiety that you feel and maybe you'd get a different perspective?
I don't know the real answers though. When I get really bad, my mum "reads' the signs and comes and stays for a week. I accidently OD'd many years ago, and my mum's terrified I'll do it again.
I was saying to Gretel that people think Im joking when I say I have valium in the house but Im not. Although I very rarely have to take them, I have to have a bottle of them in the house as they are what I take when my neck muscles start convulsing and I cant breathe or swallow properly. Its just a lovely coincidence that I can take them on the really bad days as well.:o
Im trying to figure out what it is with my child that she will listen one minute, not the next, if i raise my voice she listens the first time and then just ignores me. Even my mother has admitted that she is worse than us 6 kids were. :dizzy::hissy:
ETA: Ooh my fave :eek: is back :smiliedance: Thanks Hilary.
Okay, so the terrible two have been fed and toileted. Time for a nap, and a sleep for them would be nice too!
BUT, they won't lie down to sleep. Not interested in bed, I try the quiet DVD and the lounge in front of the TV.
No go. I even lay down too. Then B2 wanted to lie with me (not still though). He went to get something, so B1 lay down with me, but then they fought over me, and B1 was even stomping on me.
I sat up, and B1 took my spot. But she continued to laugh and kick me. :devil6:I smacked her 4 times and she screamed and went away. 2 mins later she's back, putting blankets over my head and leaning on me (shoulders, head, back) - no wonder my neck and back are always out.
B2 comes to help. I lie down to get them off me, B2 lies down, and kicks me, his toenails digging into my leg. Then B1 is trying to stand on my hip (I'm lying on my side).
Then they both get there and rock my hip, and put balls behind me, climb behind me and over me again.
:hissy: I've left the room - they can trash it and each other. Now B1 is screaming and smashing on the doors (with handle locks they can't turn!).
Okay, they are tired, that's why they are naughty. How do I STOP them being tired when they won't SLEEP? That was the whole aim of the whole mess. :crying:
WorkingClassMum
02-05-2008, 14:16
how old are they fiasco?
B2 has just turned 2 - he still needs at least 1 hour during the day, or he won't last till bedtime, and he gets hyper later because he's tired.
B1 will be 4 in a few months. She's had Tue Wed at daycare, and Thu at playgroup. We attempted to go out this morning, but it was obvious she was still tired. She has bags under her eyes, and is giving her other "tired signs" of hyper activity and attitude. She needs to rest at the very least, and could probably do with 1/2 hour to 1 hour snooze. If not, she is only going to get worse. She crashed at tea-time last night, because she's exhausted.
We try to get them to do quiet things before rest time, but it just isn't working. And frankly when I get attacked, I don't even want to be in the room with them - that's a vicious circle. More time parent spends away, more they seek attention, less parent wants to be with them, more time they spend out of the room, ...
It's just beyond me.
* Sitting in dark corner of cell, rocking gently to and fro, making "blub blub blub" noises with finger against lips to the tune of "mummy, Mummy, MUMMY, MU-U-U-U-U-MM-EE-EE-EE-EE-EE-EE-EE-EE" in the distance of my mind *
WorkingClassMum
02-05-2008, 14:45
What's their night time sleep quality and quantity like?
Did you end up taking them off bread like you where thinking?
Could it be diet related?
Bread wasn't me.
I don't give the kids much in the way of junk food. They don't like many lollies anyway, and would rather have a banana. They had chicken (leftover roast) for lunch, and water, and a few of those little rice crackers.
They've had a bottle of milk today, and had a piece of toast for breakfast.
Their night time sleep is usually not the best. B1 is starting to accept going to bed, but they push it out. I can't put them to bed much earlier, because B2 is getting up between 5 and 6 most mornings as it is. B1 usually 6:30-7:00.
Most nights at least one will wake at least once.
This means DH and I don't get enough sleep either.
By the blood-curdling screams, someone's killing someone out there ...
... B1 had stripped B2 off completely, and was attempting to dress him up as Cinderella. He was not complying with her wishes. She expects EVERYONE to do whatever SHE wants to do AT THAT TIME, and doesn't understand that others might not want to play that game, or to chase her all the time, or follow her, or copy her. Sometimes others might want to be the centre of attention, or play another game entirely.
Some of B2's bad behaviour is simply copying his sister.
Next year B1 goes off to Big School. Lucky teachers !!
reAllytee
02-05-2008, 15:36
Fiasco - Yeah yanno im not keen on the idea of anti-depressants either or should that be i wasnt but now i am .... mmmm.
It all sounds well & good to assume or say that you are being drugged up the fact is you arent.
When you are feeling like this & under a huge amount of stress your brain doesnt work properly & this is all the anti-d's do is to help your brain.
Im someone who needs anti-depressants to live life .... Hate saying that but ive come to accept that as part of my life now. I suffer from a range of things & then add Boof on top of that & i REALLY need help !
Ive been fighting going back on the high grade stuff since having Squeak & have been trying a few others that should help but arent. I had to keep within limits while i was still b/f so now really i have no excuse. And the thing is i know the high grade ones work & work wonderfully.
I am never drugged up like people assume when it comes to anti-d's. Infact i function a hell of a lot better when on them that i do without. If they were to ever make me feel drugged up then i know they arent the right ones & that i need to find another brand.
Yes we need our kids to behave & become 'normal' but at the same time to acheive this they need a functioning mother who can cope. This in turn means that we can deal with whatever they throw at us in a calm manner etc which sees results.
As you said when they attack it makes you want to leave & this in turn means they want more attention. Boof is the same & so when im able to cope it means that behaviour whilst still there dissappears enough for us to make head way.
Am i making sense or is my rambling making no sense lol !
In other news i watched Boof fall down the stairs this morning. Shame it didnt result in a broken leg ... Yep bad mummy. Wouldve given me some time out with his stuck in a cast !
This happened all because he decided to 'water' the stairs.
I was mopping them & he kept trying to play with the bucket of water.
" Boof its very hot water leave it alone "
" Why "
" Because its hot water & will burn you "
" No it wont its okay " starts picking up bucket but sees he cant lift that one so dissappears.
Me knowing full well this will mean he is up to something asks him to draw me a picture like he said he would while i did this.
" No mummy its fine " too late ive realised child is dunking his mini Bob the freaking Builder bucket into this bucket.
Child yelps.
" See its HOT Boof leave it be !!!! "
" Its ok its ok its ok Mum Mum its alright "
Me at top of stairs & Boof at bottom.
" BOOF STOP STOP STOP !!!!!!!!!! THE BUCKET IS LEAKING "
" Its ok mum its ok ...... Seee i do it seeeeeee "
Bucket is leaking enough water everywhere so he tips it up.
:hair::hissy::crying:
Mummy tries to stay calm but realises its too late for calm as she is screaming.
Boof then realises he is going to be in the poo so starts retreating down the few steps he has climbed.
*SLIP FALL THUD *
Wonderful :rolleyes:
Fiasco, sorry to hear, that your kids are so terrible behaving.
Can't even give you some tips or so. Just hope, once your older one is at school, she calms down a bit.
The last 2-3 weeks, I was walking on eggshells, very carefully to not say anything different or wrong, which would casue Jay's behaviour to change.
I don't know what happened but I like it.
He's calm, friendly, helpful, polite and hardly hurts his brother. :eek:
Maybe, because we're hardly home. Generally we leave the hosue around 10, unless it's kindy, and won't be back til about 3 pm. Mostly he's so knackered from playing, that he doesn't want to muck up.
I seriously hope it stays that way.
Nat however is a complete different story. He picked up the bad behaviour from Jay. He starts now climbing onto everything, if he can't reach something, he pushes the chair to where he wants to go and tries to climb up there (he's 17 mths, way too young for that)..
He also throws everything, no matter what I give him. He starts becoming a fussy eater and droppes everything onto the ground and his comment.. Oho.. :rolleyes:
And there was I hoping that I would have a calm one after a terror the first time round..
Ally, not sure, if I should say, sorry, that Boof didn't break his leg or luckily he didn't. Eventhough, you may would have had a time out if he had a leg in a cast, he may would dictate (sp?) you around and would want stuff constantly, because he couldn't get it by himselfs.
Plus the possible whinging about his leg, my not be so awesome either..
Sending lots of :hugs: to all of you.
Hope all the kidlets are behaving themselves for the long weekend, for the QLDer at least ;)
we're leaving for overseas on wednesday and I'm soo NOT looking forward to the flight. Alone with 2 feral children for 25 hours :dizzy:
MustangMumma
02-05-2008, 22:30
allyoo :hugs: hun it really annoys me when they dont listen and you know they are going to hurt themselves and then i dont feel sorry for ds
fiasco :hugs::hugs:
what little buggers i dont know how you handle it with 2 ds drives me crazy and if ds2 turns like ds1 i am going to have a breakdown
Hey ladies... I wanted to pop my head in and say hello, its been so long.. DD has been absolutely exasperating lately.. I have no words for her.. Well I can think of one..
Fiasco, I think its about time we met up :)
Ladies all I can do is offer:hugs::hugs::hugs: and :crying: in sympathy:hugs::hugs:
Fiasco, sorry to hear, that your kids are so terrible behaving.
Me too
Generally we leave the hosue around 10, unless it's kindy, and won't be back til about 3 pm. Mostly he's so knackered from playing, that he doesn't want to muck up.
Well, we left at 9:30 and spent all day running around the railway museum at Ipswich. The kids had a ball, and raced everywhere. They only ate food we took (sandwiches and fruit) and drank our water. They napped in the car coming home, and once home ... they went mad racing around and pulling toys out, and talking at the top of their voice (great for my headache). Wish they'd get tired by an outing.
Nat however is a complete different story. He picked up the bad behaviour from Jay. He starts now climbing onto everything, if he can't reach something, he pushes the chair to where he wants to go and tries to climb up there (he's 17 mths, way too young for that)..
That is B2 all over ... just Nat is starting the climbing later than B2 - "I can walk, therefore I can climb".
He also throws everything, no matter what I give him. He starts becoming a fussy eater and droppes everything onto the ground and his comment.. Oho.. :rolleyes:
The fussy eating is B1.
we're leaving for overseas on wednesday and I'm soo NOT looking forward to the flight. Alone with 2 feral children for 25 hours :dizzy:
Oh dear, better you than me. Good luck :fingerscrossed:
Leeny, PM me or email me the days that suit you and we'll go from there. As long as my recent posts haven't put you off !! :D
Why does my daughter delight in making a liar out of me??
Today, after a really rough start to the day for me, I decided to get out of the house and after doing some shopping for a birthday party we are attending tomorrow, I arranged to go to another BHers house (:wave: Nick) in the hopes that Bug would play nicely and settle down just for once. Well my hopes came true, to the point she was an absolute angel while we were at his house, played wonderfully with his boys and didnt once speak out of turn. :eek: Why cant she be like this at home???
Im starting to think that my daughter wasnt meant to be an only child:( The only time she is feral is with me and the family. If there are other children around she is an angel.
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And while im in here whinging, I would like to thank Gretel for her wonderful support last night and this morning. It has really helped me to get through such a rough day.:hugs::hugs:
:hugs: to everyone..
We've all been sick so it's been relatively peaceful here. Both boys have slept for close to 3days *sigh* as bad as it sounds, it was so nice (minus the cleaning of spew and other gross stuff)..
Zac seems to be chilling out a bit now but Kai is well and truly making up for it :rolleyes: Tantrums over anything and everything and he's started pinching me when I try remove him from something he shouldn't be touching.
threeofthem
03-05-2008, 21:10
Hi Im sorry if I'm butting in, but i'm getting desprate
Dd Zarah is almost 2 1/2. She is driving me mad, her swimming teacher today described her as '4 seasons in 1 day' thinking it was just her in the water but that is exactly what she is like at the moment.
I minute she is happy and laughing the next she is crying , for what I can see is no reason.
If I don't let her have something she get hysterical and throws herself on the floor.
She has never had a dummy other then bed from day 1 and now wants to walk around with it in her mouth (which I won't allow)
When she gets asked to do something that she doesn't want to do she cries and then wants a cuddle, I don't know whether to give in to her whims, I do pick my battles but at the moment they seem to be from having a biscuilt before dinner time to teeth cleaning to wearing shoes.
I have no idea in how to deal this and so it seems does dh as he lets her get away with anything. My ds is seeing Zarah doing this and is copying so I have the 2 going
I really am going mad. Couldn't wait to tghe weekend so that dh could be a buffer but that hasn't worked, so I was wondering if any of you had some ideas on how to deal with a 2 yr old and still stay sane.
She has time outs and we count to 3 which seems to work, its the emotional rollercoaster I need help with
pleas help ta
Elizar we dont necessarily have the answers but we at least understand :hugs:
threeofthem
03-05-2008, 21:51
Thanks, and here I was thinking there was a secret answer that I wasn't told. Lol
Thanks, and here I was thinking there was a secret answer that I wasn't told. Lol
Nope but if you find it, please share:p
Welcome Elizar. I'm afraid that the sunny spot by the window has been taken, and I'm using the dark corner at the back. Pull up a piece of padded wall to bang your head on and share your troubles. At least it helps a bit knowing that you are not the only one experiencing this. That knowledge alone helps me.
Even if we don't have a magic wand in here, occasionally we do share minor wins. And some days we all have a wonderful day together and the cell is actually empty. (Of course sometimes we have 5 pages of dramas listing in a day too! Let's hope today is the former!)
I am looking forward to a child-free day - largely. I have an invite which is strictly "no kids" and I'm making the most of it !!
Good morning ladies
After a pretty good nights sleep I have a feeling I will be back in here later to bang my head and scream at the walls. Why???
Today we are going to a birthday party for a 4 year old boy (who we adore:D) at Whiteman Park (local conservation area) The place is wonderful for kids, I've had two of Bugs birthday parties there, BUT the shelter we are using today is right next to one of the little pond lakes that are there and Bug is a natural Pisces, cant resist water.:hair: Should be an interesting day. Im just hoping that having the other children there will be enough to keep her away.
Is that A's party De? If so give him a big cuddle for me :hugs:
Is that A's party De? If so give him a big cuddle for me :hugs:
Yeah hun it is. Boys still too sick huh? :hugs:
Nah they're on the mend finally although Kai's nappies are still pretty foul lol.
Aww :hugs: Im hoping Bug will just behave today for once. She loves Whiteman Park so atleast I know she will run riot enough to have a really good nap. Well I hope anyway.:rolleyes::o
At least she can run off anything that contains sugar lol.
Actually thats where Im not going to have a prob but everyone else will because Bug still isnt eating properly:D:laughing:
threeofthem
04-05-2008, 21:33
Thanks for the welcome, we had an ok day, Zarah only tried to strangle Elijah once today, why can't she leave him alone? She also only ended up the ladder twice (we are renovating). The tantrums I lost count. Dh and I took the kids for a coffee used to do it allthe time, may never happen again for a few years. Hope you all had a good weekend
Well she kept away from the water today so I was relieved. But I think I got the most exercise I have had in years. Everyone soon found out just how quickly she can disappear after 7 times of her disappearing from our eyesight in seconds and straight into the playground area. Im exhausted, she exhausted all the males with dizzy wizzys, but she is in the best mood she has been in for days.
And while all the others munched on their nice sugary cake.......she ate some chips and 3/4 of a sausage. Thankfully she didnt ask for cake, she seriously did not need the extra sugar.
Elizar - Bug has a thing with ladders as well. Why do they always pick the most dangerous things to do??
Glad Bug had a good time De!
reAllytee
05-05-2008, 16:56
Ive another who loves ladders ! And it doesnt help that daddy leaves it around :rolleyes:
Glad to see or should i say hear all the kiddies are up to their usual antics !
We had an ok weekend because on Sat it was spent with the outlaws & Boof was run ragged by his uncle which was great. Boof now has a new best friend lol !
Sat nite was a nightmare which i will go into a little later as it deserves its own rant !
Sunday was good because we stayed at my mums which meant Boof had a backyard to run around in & my sister to annoy ! Then & this is the best part heh ! I got to leave Boof at my mums waaahhhhooooooo :smiliedance:
I have the GI appt for Squeak tomorrow ( Tues) & being that i have to leave at 7am to get there, catch a train & a bus then be in with him for approx 2hrs means there was no way in holy hell i was doing that alone with Boof !!!! DP was meant to come but the insurer decided to make an appt for him with doctors didnt they gggrrrrrr !
So we got to have a really relaxed nite last nite then today has been lazy too but we have gotten a few things done. My house looks clean which is amazing ! There are no toys thrown over the place, no food or water.... Aaaaah bliss !!!
Do i really have to bring him home ?!?!?!?!?!
But i do have a rant & thats because Boof was horrendous come Sat arvo & then all through the nite ... All because MIL gave him food he isnt meant to have !!!!! He had so much dairy back in his system he screamd & cried falling off to sleep & then for 2hrs at about midnite ... Why cant the woman understand when i say he cant have something or the likes he cant have it !!!!!!
My mum wants me to get mean with her which really i would love but seriously i loathe this woman so much i fear that once i really rip into her i wont hold back at all ! Which is why i havent said anything up until this point ! DP does though which is something & possibly why i dont bother because i know he will bite her head off lol !
Aaaaah welllls but as you can probably tell im feeling a little carefree having the break ..... Oh yeah :flowerz:
Enjoy your break Ally and good luck with the appointment tomorrow!
De glad you and Bug had a good time too.
My head hurts..
Zac's been really good lately. No yelling, tantrums.. nothing.. it's bizarre.. His Nan (his dad's mum) is arriving for a holiday tomorrow night and wants to come visit on Wednesday then take him to stay with her on the weekend. Not sure how I feel about it though. I love her to bits but with all the **** with the Ex I kinda dont trust her anymore which sucks. I dont want her to miss out on time with Zac though and vice versa. I'm scared she'll try take him to visit his dad at the prison (I have informed the prison that if Zac's name is ever listed for a visits booking to notify the police and myself as it will be against my wishes).. Also she is staying with his dads girlfriend and while I do want him to meet his sister (they have a 1yr old girl) I dont want to confuse him by letting him see her but when his dad gets out tell him he has to take me to court..
**** it.. I dont know what to do :(
Quick reminder that Sat night is our "virtual holiday". More later.
Nel I guess the only thing I can think of is to let her prove that she is trustworthy and ask DS what he did on his trip with his grandmother. Sneaky I know but if she cant be straight up, you will atleast be able to tell if DS has been told to lie to you about their activities.
MustangMumma
09-05-2008, 22:00
Hello ladies
I was starting to think ds was getting better and i havent posted on this thread for awhile but guess what IM BACK ds is behaving like such a feral demanding things, telling me what i should do and just not listering im over being a mother i feel i cant handle it anymore, i went to his kinder for a morning tea and all i could think off was why do i need to be here ds is running amock as soon as he sees me and i am embress that he is mine i hate thinking like this he is 4 in feb but he cant count to 10 all he wants to do is play.
Im over it thanks for the rant
I haven't got time now (B1 is nagging) I will try to set up a thread about8 o'clock tonight. Will post details in here. That's 8 o'clock Eastern time.
I haven't got time now (B1 is nagging) I will try to set up a thread about8 o'clock tonight. Will post details in here. That's 8 o'clock Eastern time.
I might be a little late. Bug has severe tonsillitis again. Gee its been quiet the past 2 days, all she has done is sleep:D
Poor Bug :hugs: Hope she gets better soon De.
I'll be late if I get here at all.8your time is right in the middle of my busy time, dinner, baths etc.. Will see how I go.
Thanks Nel. I was saying to gretel last night that with the way shayley was behaving yesterday, i had fallen in love with my little girl and wanted her to keep being like she was. She woke in a good mood despite the pain, played quietly at the doctors, did everything he asked, asked nicely to go on the train to meet up with mum, (we beat the bus we wouldve caught by 30 seconds in going by train and then bus to morley), behaved at the shops while we got her script, even managed a few mouthfuls of lunch (again despite the pain) then just rested quietly for the afternoon at home. The only down point was she had only had 750 mls of fluid in 2 days and was still in so much pain last night that I had to forcibly hold her down to get some nurofen into her so the pain would go and she would take her antibiotics. I think the neighbours thought I was killing her.
Ho hum, rain all week now. I hope we get a few rays of sunshine tomorrow.
I know wht you mean, we all had gastro the other week and it was so peaceful here lol. I feel for Bug though, I endured years of drama's with tonsilitis until they finally took them out the day after my 14th birthday. Not fun and I missed so much school over the years. They decided that I pretty much constantly had it in my system from the age of 3 (so 11 bloody years!) but whenever I got in to see the ENT is wasn't 'bad enough' to warrant getting them taken out.
Hope the rain clears up this arvo, Zac has a party to go to.
reAllytee
10-05-2008, 17:35
I will get on a little later as im desperately trying to finish off MIL's Mothers Day gift :rolleyes:
And im also supposed to be on leave from the net !
So say around 9pm & i will be here !
So I can be optimistic and say the jars are working for their behaviour... sorta.
But NOTHING stops the winging. Oh My God. Jordan has just winged and winged and winged and winged and cried and demanded and winged ALL DAY!!
So sick of him. The only upside was a birthday party at Maccas, so I pumped him full of colourings and preservatives and he was happy to run around for 2 hours....
Tull we got home. DH got food poisoning.. I'm not feeling the best. I think Gabs got it too (must have been the icecream cake??? :confused:..) coz he just did 2 huge chuck-ups in his bed.... poor little thing. So tired he stayed asleep through the whole pyjama and bedding change.
Made me think of you Al. :hugs:
So we got home and Jordan notched up the winging. Ollie was okay, Gabs joined Jordan. Carlo just felt wretched so went and lay down.... I just decided to ignore the whole lot of them, leave them to their winging and spewing (DH... though he was winging too) and go get the washing of the line.
SO here I am... the whole house asleep apart from me.
I'm going on holiday ;):sunshine:
Hopefully tomorrow is a better day... or I'm going to treat myself to a bullet in the head. :goodvibes:
Ladies, sorry I'm late, will create a thread now. B2 was vomiting everywhere !!!
:barf::barf:
Sorry to hear that fiasco!
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=2639612#post2639612
Back in a tick, B2 has thrown up again ... make yourselves at home, I'll be in residence shortly.
I didn't know where to put it so I stuck it under fun and games
If there'a a better place, I'm sure a mod will let me know. Didn't have time to hunt with poor B2.
Thanks everyone for coming to Hotel PC tonight. It was a blast.
Ally, keep in touch even if you are having a break from BH. We still love you.
All those with sick kids at present, hope they're all feeling much better in the morning so mums all get a rest on their special day.
Happy Mother's Day all
Thank you for your time and company tonight ladies. It was very enjoyable and relaxing.
Ally take care hun:hugs::hugs:
Happy Mothers Day!!!
Sorry I didn't make it :( Had my mum and aunty (landlords) turn up loaded with gardening equipment yesterday and got stuck into the back yard, gutters etc (yes in the rain De :p) and they didn't leave til 5:30. So I was only just starting dinner etc at 6.
Are you taking a break Ally? :hugs: hope everything is ok hun.
Nel can you send them to my place please:D
Well today is mothers day and tradition in this house is that we go to the Zoo. But this morning Bug has woken in a foul mood so now im not sure if i want to attempt it:(
They probably aren't talking to me anymore.. I cant control the weather I'm afraid :laughing:
I GIVE UP!
Bug is on the road to recovery....and my days of peace and good behaviour are over. Only me though. Everyone else she is being an angel for. Take tonight for instance.......
Juju comes over, heaps of kisses and cuddles handed out. Drinks her antibiotics mixed with her milk. Lays down on her fold out sofa and goes to sleep. 2 hours later (OMG yes she was down by 7.30 to start with, so unheard of around here), she is still asleep in the lounge room with a smile on her face.
Why cant she be like this every night but even better yet, lay down in her bed or the crash bed (am trying to get her out of mine still, still in there by 2am though)? Why is it when we are on our own its just tantrums, screaming, throwing stuff, hitting me and demolishing the house?
I GIVE UP!
reAllytee
13-05-2008, 08:57
Three words De-A ....
They.
Are.
Evil !
:devil:
Boof was off the scale yesterday so it didnt take me long to be screaming & ranting at him ... I just want him to damn well listen to me !!!!
What made matters worse is that Squeak was having a really bad day again being that his poo has gone back all mucusy !!!!!! Arrrrrggggh i give up :hair:
Aww Ally thats really rough on you hun :hugs::hugs::hugs: I hope things are better for you today.
Bug has woken with a cold....hmm shouldve known this was going to happen. Just had to ring the dentist and give them some poor excuse as to why I cant make it today and now i have to wait until June.:(
mum23boys
13-05-2008, 12:03
Hello Ladies, I haven't posted in here before but it seems like the right place for me at the moment.
I am about to go crazy. My eldest DS is driving me absolutly insane, if he hurts one of his brothers one more time I dont know what I am going to do...
Also he has the whole I am the superior thing happening today all I am hearing is Nick do this, Luc dont do that, No Nick, No Luc.
Sorry for the :ecomcity: just had to get it off my chest. Hope the afternoon gets better then the morning.
Mum2Bug: I know how you feel. B1 was hyper all the way to daycare - a 5 minute trip in the car. Get there, quiet, calm, polite ... someone must've switched kids on me between the car and the front door !! Go eat some of that yummy rocky road from Sat night !!
reAllytee: Gosh, I wish I knew how to get B1 to listen. She wouldn't get into half the trouble if she would stop and listen and obey occasionally. B2 plays on the "I'm a baby, I don't understand what 'pick up the blocks' means" - won't work Mister, we know you comprehend us !! Ally, you need to close the door, go and make a nice cup of tea, and don't open the door till you've had at least a few mouthfulls of nice hot tea. Chances are they'll all still be alive when you open it, and at least you'll be calmer. If you don't like tea, substitute your favourite drink - if there's any left after M2B's rocky road that is!!
Mum23Boys: Welcome, rant away, we're all here to listen, even if we don't have all the answers. At least we can give you a laugh and share your pain.
samsgirls
13-05-2008, 16:46
Hi Ladies,
not sure what qualifications I need to enter the Padded Cell, :laughing: but my DD2 is actually half monkey we think. She was walking at 10 and a half months and hasn't stopped, she runs now. Emily is my 'normal child' :smiliedance:apparently, according to my mother! as my dd1, even tho temperemental, is of a placid nature. My poor little monkey is actually sick with gastro at the moment, so she isn't her little energetic, destructive self, but i thought I might stick my nose in and introduce myself anyway. Hope to chat with u some more. Cheers.
Do you ever have those days where you just wake up cranky.
OMG... the boys got it without havng even being up for 10mins...
Yelling at 5:30am is just toooo early.
They were playing in their room, and found some toys they'd been playing with at MIL's.... so they slipped back into the 'I can do it there, why can't I do it here" mode.
:hair:
I even yelled at Gab.. :( poor thing. didn't seserve it and was just tired and wanted to be rocked to sleep... but I had 2 devils pulling the DVD player apart and racing through the house with tricycles with a whole bunch of leaves and dirt in the little 'carry wagon' bit...
I cried. I pleaded, I begged, I threatened. In the end I just took them to kindy early....came home and yelled at Carlo for a bit. :o
God I love him... he's the only thing that keeps me sane. I yell, I accuse, I break down in tears.... he makes me a coffee and breakfast and then takes me out to lunch.
If only I could ditch the kids....... :rolleyes:
Back later.
LOve to you all. Al, you're amazing... must have been the day for kids who don't listen. Enjoy kindy tomorrow!
De. Talk later babe.
Fiasco... we so have to get together one day. What you doing tomorrow?????
SG: welcome. :wave:
Fiasco - im pretty sure i left some alcohol, just not sure what flavours:D
Welcome to the newbies. We can offer no advice, just a shoulder, sympathy and a glass of your favourite drink.:laughing::hugs:
Gret - ok babe
Ally -thinking of you hun
Kayte - quiet at your house?? Or that bad?:hugs:
Everyone else - :hugs:
mum23boys
13-05-2008, 17:53
Evening all, my afternoon was as bad as the morning unfortunately. Thankgod the count down to bed time is on. 1hr 40min to go.
Tomorrow will be abit better eldest DS goes to pre-school tomorrow so it will be abit quieter in
the house. I think I might have to do some sort of behaviour chart or something. He can be such a bugger but as soon as the twins go down for a sleep and it is just him he is a sweet little boy. I want more of that sweet little boy. I must have done something wrong when I brought the twins home, I dont know maybe I didn't give him enough attention or didn't include him in helping me. If only I could turn back time.
Thanks for listening. I look forward to getting to know you all, it will be good to chat to people going through the same challenging times.
:wave: and welcome to the newbies!
:hugs: to all the regular crazies
Pretty quiet here. Had Zac's Nan over from Vic and as a result he is somewhat withdrawn atm which I guess is good and bad lol.
Kai's quickly becoming a master tantrum thrower :rolleyes: Yay..
WorkingClassMum
13-05-2008, 19:47
*sigh*
After much research and seeing GP we appear to have very mild "Oppositional Defiance Disorder", but without the spite and anger.
Umm *DER* I think I've known it for awhile.
We already have a restricted diet, we already have fish oil, I already have grey hair...
Roll on 18
The new idea is to do exactly the opposite and see what Mummy's reaction is.
I didn't realise how bad she is until last week, when the kinder, the creche and Grandma all needed to "have a chat"...
threeofthem
13-05-2008, 19:56
Hi everyone,
We have been relativly quiet lately. Today though omg. From the moment they got up e was crying zar wouldn't eat breaky etc it didn't stop I agree that 10 min after getting up is to early to yell.
Had mothers group here today so there were 4 other 15 month olds it was crazy. zar put herself to bed - unusual came out half an hour later with poo all over her (she is fully toilet trained) it was gross. E decided he would go into her room and came out with it all over him to, this in front of all the other ladies who havn't experienced 2 yr olds before.
My feral child told me as I was cleaning her up that she ate it yuk.
E cried all afternoon, wouldn't be put down I think he is scared that zar will try and strangle him or sit on him again.
It was a long day. Lets hope tomorrow is better and we have no poo
:dizzy:
Oh by the way I hope you all had a lovely evening on saturday and a lovely mothers day and all of your spirited ones were good for you (or that someone took over for a while):ecomcity:
reAllytee
13-05-2008, 21:46
Kayte :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
If you ever need to talk im here. My nephew was diagnosed with ODD when he was 6yrs along with ADHD. I was living with him at this point .... Even he used to push my buttons :rolleyes:
Hey ladies.... Just wanted to pop in and give :hugs: to all of you.. Whenever I get free time and think I'm going to be able to start posting again, something else happens! I havent been allowed to use the internet for a few weeks, except for sneaky email or signing onto msn every now and then, but its usable now ..
DD's driving me crazy lately, I really have no words to describe her behaviour...From the moment she wakes up (EARLY), until the moment she goes to sleep(LATE), she doesnt stop, and the full on crazy behavious is just ridiculous... The only time I get a bit of peace is when I duck down to the shops, and even then its a pit of pot luck.
I actually feel like a mother to a 7 yr old adhd boy.. The kids just too big for her boots. I even get angry thinking about her, lovely! :laughing:
I'd realllllllyyyyy love to live in my own place to see what she'd be like without 3 grandparents in the same house..
De, that sucks about having to cancel your appointment.. gwens sick at the moment too.. croup... again.. I'm so sick of cleaning up snot... Snot snot snot.. Everywhere I turn... Its so lovely when she decides to wipe her own nose and smears it all over her face too... Hope bug gets better soon!
Welcome mum23boys.. I'm sure you'll fit right in!
Fiasco, I promise I'll pm you soon :laughing:.. DH finally got a job *FINGERS CROSSED IT STICKS*... He's been trying to get a job for 4 yrs...The downside is I have to stay at home all day every day looking after grandma.. As soon as I know I have a free day, I'll pm you and see if your free.
Hey SamsGirls, welcome!
Gret, dont feel bad about yelling at Gabs, he knows you didnt mean it ;).. I cant wait until next year when I can get gwen into kindy... But I need to hope she actually gets a spot and that I can afford it.. I really hope it makes a difference... Hope your days better tomorrow :hugs:
Ally, how long ago did you change your user name? Thats how much I havent been able to get on here lately!... Its cool :D.. I haven't caught up on much yet, but how's squeak going?
fletchersmummy
14-05-2008, 13:10
Hi Guys, its the first time I ave posted in this topic, mostly just reading through posts and too ashamed of my sons behaviour to talk about it too much!
This morning though I actually lost it and cried and cried.
DS was running around with his morning tea and I asked him to sit down at the table. He kept running and I told him, you have to the count of 5 to stop or you go to your bedroom for time out.
Well, 5 came and he went into time out in his room. Screamed and abused me through the door "Let me out of here Mummy", I tell him if he says sorry he can come out...his response "I cant do that", he screamed for another 10 minutes or so, and then he wanted his dummy. I told him if he wanted it he had to apologise and I would give it to him. Again, "I cant do that", Me: "Sorry Mummy", him "I cant say that", you get the drift, half hour later, I threw him his dummy and sat down and cried...yes without my apology.
The minute I cried..."I'm sorry Mummy, I'm sorry" GRRRR :banghead:
Like seriously, this kid is driving me around the twist..:hissy:
Anyway, just needed to vent, I am sure there will be more sooner rather than later
Lyn
WorkingClassMum
15-05-2008, 23:50
Hi Fletchers Mummy:wave:
I'm an *ahem* older member (not the longest though) of this little corner of the world.
I get let out for good behaviour (DD's not mine), but then it all comes crashing down, and I crawl back in.
But welcome - vent away - the chardy's in the fridge, the coffee's brewing, pull up a pew, and dampen a shoulder or two
Hi Lyn and welcome to our little white room.
Wow your DS sounds so much like my daughter who has just turned 3. Im hoping eventually one day it will click with her and it will all stop because nothing else I have tried has worked and every day I either hate that I am a mum or I cry myself to sleep.
Take care, we are all here to support you and let you know you arent alone.:hugs::hugs:
Heya girls.
Elizar, :hugs: poo is so gross. :barf:.. lol believe me, I've been there too.
Lyn. :hugs: Never feel ashamed of your son's behaviour... that's what we're all here for. My boys are doing the same thing.
Me: Why did you pinch Jordan?
O: Because I NEED too.
Me: (muttering under my breath) what you need is a hot bum that's what you need. (to him) Time Out.
O: NO. No Time Out. I won't do it.
me: (walking towards my 'wooden spoon' drawer) 3, 2, ...
O: (sits in Time Out chair not at all a happy camper)
:rolleyes: Oh.. and then it repeats, 5 mins later with the other one. Yep.. I've had more than my fair share of days crying. I cried the other morning when they were bringing piles and piles of dirt and leaves into the house. and refusing to listen to a single thing I said.
Leen... OMG hun.. seriously, if you need to get out the boys are home Mondays and Wednesdays we can go to a park or something. :yes:
Kayte: How's things in Fort Knox???
Ally: :hugs: Hope things are alright today. I wish I was closer babe.
Oh, and tell me:
WHY oh WHY do my children have to wake up at 4:30AM!!!!!
WorkingClassMum
16-05-2008, 12:25
Oh, and tell me:
WHY oh WHY do my children have to wake up at 4:30AM!!!!!
How do you get them to sleep in that long???:confused:
How do you get them to sleep at all?? :p DS2 is shocking lately. Waking at least 4 times a night.. He's almost 2 FFS.. I want a full nights sleep :hissy:
WorkingClassMum
16-05-2008, 12:28
I am now officially a bad mother
I have shown G how to turn the TV on, load a DVD and told her to have either muslie bars or an apple or a banana and water when she wakes at 1, 2, 3 or 4 and to not wake mummy or daddy anymore.
I now find her in the lounge room most mornings with the DVD message bouncing over the TV - she's fallen asleep watching Princess or something...
See... now mine just fight over what to watch... and then come wake us up because "Jordie won't watch Shrek" or "Ollie won't let me watch Toy Story"
I'm just about ready to ban DVD's all together...
I don't mind THEM waking up that early, coz they can pretty much amuse themselves for a few hours.... it's the fact that they wake up Gabriel too!! And then I HAVE to get up. :hair:
I wish I had a bigger house... or a 2 story house. I'd put their room, the loungeroom and the kitchen downstairs...
and everyone else upstairs. Maybe that way we'd get some sleep.
How do you get them to sleep at all?? :p DS2 is shocking lately. Waking at least 4 times a night.. He's almost 2 FFS.. I want a full nights sleep :hissy:
Dream on. I have one who is just over 3 and still hasnt slept through the night.
Thanks De that makes me feel just soo much better :rolleyes: :p
threeofthem
16-05-2008, 20:27
Dream on. I have one who is just over 3 and still hasnt slept through the night.
I hear you about about the sleep. zar wakes up a few times a night and e also wakes sometimes for up to 2 hours he has an excuse though (sleep apnea) But boy I have had enough.
Ojandme I did ban the dvd for a few days as zar couldn't decide what she wanted and kept on pulling out a new dvd after 5 min of the old one. It worked tat now she will watch a full show.
Talking of zar she has been an angel one minute and a devil the next. The icing on the cake today was when she pushed e down he landed on his face and put his teeth through his lip (again):hair: so it was time out in her room which she hates although is musn't be that much she spent a bit of time there today.
I really need to stop telling her that she is being 'naughty' as she is telling e that he is naughty.
Oh well tomorrow is another day lets hope it is better then today.
MustangMumma
17-05-2008, 22:32
DS is driving me crazy i wont go into it cause i feel like i will start to cry and i cant be bothered. Why do i have to have a child who behaves like a big feral. Today i lost it and i told him that i am ashamed of him WTF he is only 3yrs and i am telling him this no wonder the child has issues i am starting to belive its my fault i am not a good mum to him i dont read to him i find playing with him annoying and he does my head in i just want a bloodly break from him and everyday issues. I really think i am losing the bloodly plot thanks for the vent
reAllytee
18-05-2008, 00:35
I wasn't going to post this.
I've been sitting here pondering whether I should or not because i'm sure it's going to make many wonder what type of mother I am.
I slapped Boof across the face today.
There I said it :eek::crying:
While there is no excuse for it & I do feel the most amazing amount of guilt & angst, I still feel detached from it because it was the only thing that made him listen. The only time i've ever scared him.
Today has been a complete nightmare & DP finally got a proper insight into what a day in the life of being home with Boof is truly like. Even he is still in shock over todays events. Me well honestly it's nothing out of the ordinary so while I am still angry & frustrated it isn't like this is a new thing.
What Boof got up to today which lead to such a dramatic climax :
Woke up at 5am.
Ranted & raved for the hour in his own room. This included trying to demand that he be allowed to go downstairs to watch t.v or that he be allowed cake or biccies .... Yeah right.
This then escalated to him taking it into Squeak's room waking him up.
Squeak starts screaming so upon investigation we find his cot filled with not only toys but Boof himself .... Heaven knows how it handled the weight being that it's still on the highest setting !!!!
DP takes Boof downstairs while I organise Squeak where he has breakfast & proceeds to throw cornflakes over the room.
Boof then gets his hands on my wallet & hides all my money. It isn't much but still $10 means I can go catch a train to a BH meet when i'm going insane !
Getting to my wallet resulted in 2 brand new photo frames being smashed because he climbed onto a table near the front door to boost himself up to a height to get at a shelf on the wall.
9am DP then has to leave for an appointment so i'm on my own. He makes comments about him being really ' off the scale' today .... Welcome to my reality Sweet Pea !
Starts throwing toys & trying to push stuff off kitchen benches.
Refuses to stay in time out anytime it's used & being that i was dealing with Squeak having a bad day it's really hard to try to stick with it.
Continously harasses Squeak hitting & pushing him.
Pours water all over stairs.
Refuses to listen at all or when asked to apologise or told his behaviour is unacceptable he smirks or bursts into fits of laughter.
When I duck in to the laundry for all of 2mins I think I hear the front door being unlocked but am not concerned because that can't be right as we always lock ourselves in when with Boof otherwise he takes off. Stupid mummy. DP didnt lock us in & Boof has taken off just as I come in to a crying Squeak in his highchair. Boof is in front courtyard which isn't safe atm due to a huge water leak which caused a sink hole so I ask him to come back inside. Which gets ignored. Still trying to settle Squeak & get myself outside I hear the front gate being unlocked ! By the time I have gotten there he has taken off across the driveway & made a bolt for the alleyway/ lane behind the nearby villas. Me yelling & screaming as well as Squeak screaming we get him back inside. I am obviously losing the plot by this stage.
Toys confiscated which results in the same responses as earlier. Laughter.
The final straw came when at lunchtime .... Yes that's right this all happened in a few hours ! I was trying to get the pram organised for us to walk to the shops for groceries. I place Squeak on the lounge making sure he couldn't fall off I quickly dash to the kitchen bench to grab the shopping bags which is like 10 steps away. Squeak screams ! I turn to see Boof has a bag over his head which has me yelling. Boof then grabs Squeak's arm & pulls him so he falls over then tries to drag him off the lounge. Squeak was hysterical & I was pretty close !
I lost the plot & slapped him across the face.
I'm not proud of it but I am so damned tired of doing everything for this child & trying so many different things yet nothing is enough. I've had it.
So there that is my reality.
Monday will see me going to our g.p for a big chat.
:hugs: MM. I have said things I regret to DS1 before. I apologised to him after but still felt horrible.
Ally HUGE :hugs: What a morning :no:
MM - I have days like that with Bug and I get to a point I walk away muttering to myself that I wish I had never gone through with the pregnancy, that I am a **** mum and I will never be able to cope. You sound so much like me in your posts that I have no advice as I cant get past it or work through it myself but wanted to give you some :hugs::hugs:
Ally - ah hell why do you have to live so far away. I would be there in a second hun:hugs::hugs:
MustangMumma
18-05-2008, 13:36
Ally just wanted to give you a big :hugs::hugs:.
De thanks its sad that our kids cant be good lol alot of the time i think i wish i never had him and then of course i feel bad he can be such a great kid at times.
:hugs: Ally.. I've done some pretty unmotherly things to gwen when she's been in a violent rage, been bitting me enough to draw blood, then claws at my face with her fingernails whilst screaming.. I was so ashamed of myself... I appologised to her and said that mummy was very sorry and loved her very much :blush:
I used to be a smacker too, but a month or 2 ago I just decided to stop.. She was smacking me back, thinking that it was ok, so now I'm left with no way to disipline her that works.... She can get in so much trouble, and just thinks its hilarious.. Espically when I was smacking her.. Hard :blush:.. Soooo funny.
Boof sounds like gwen in so many ways :yes:
I done so well a few weeks ago.. I was getting her in bed at 7:30-8, but thats gone out the window.. Shes going to bed at 11:30-12 alot lately.. Even when she gets to bed, she doesnt sleep for hours sometimes.. And then she wakes up so unbelieveabley early.. Drives me up the wall.
Gret - Sounds good.. Maybe fiasco can so something with us.. I've been meaning to meet her :)
Al. :hugs:
I have had the most violent thoughts lately. I haven't done it, but omg... I have been SOOOO close to slapping the boys across the face.
But we have a friend. the 'wooden spoon'. I don't care who says what, it gets results when nothing else does.
They used to hurt Gabs all the time, but we just started smacking them with the wooden spoon EVERY time they did, they soon stopped. Won't stay in Time Out... wooden spoon. Don't listen.... wooden spoon. I can't believe how much I've used it this weekend.
Carlo and I are so angry all the time. We honestly just want them to disapear for a while.
That's the worst thing about naughty kids.. you can't just walk away. We're stuck in these abusive situations, and we can't get out, we can't even leave the ROOM FFS....
Al, honestly babe... I just can't believe how much I wish I lived closer. After all that, and then you even attempted to take him shopping... omg.. you're a much more amazing woman than me.
MustangMumma- You're not a bad Mum. We all have days like that. Pretty much daily. :rolleyes: But we're doing the best with what we can. I've told my 3yr olds some pretty awful things today. Today DH told them to 'Just go away... because we are SICK OF YOU."
I just find myself boiling over with rage.. I think about them and clench my teeth, and ball my fists and thank God they're not adults or there'd be nothing to stop me from laying into them.
They were so good for a week... but this weekend their listening has been dreaful. And we're living on no sleep....
Tonight's strange. They've been up since 4:30 and crashed out on the couch.. even Gabs... So it's 5:30 and they're all asleep... it's going to make for a friggin early morning though.
My only sanity is I've rearraged the loungeroom. The one locking room in our house. I used to have a bookcase blocking the front door, coz we always use the side door. But today I moved it....
So I can lock the kids in the loungeroom with their toys, and the front door open. And they can have full run of the loungeroom and garden... and I can lock the side doors and keep them out of the rest of the house.
I think that whenever Gabs has an afternoon sleep I'm just going to stick them in there. They can amuse themselves for an hour, and I can have a sleep.
Oh well.. we'll see how it works anyway.
Gret, I applaud you for being honest and able to say you use the wooden spoon.. Especially with all the "if you smack you kid or a bad parent" business that goes around..
Sounds like you've had a rough day though.. What time do you think they'll wake up after being asleep at 5:30?? If Gwen goes to sleep at even 6 or 7, she's up by 11 or 12 :rolleyes:
Ahh Gwens birthday is this friday... On her first birthday I was excited.. Wuhoo, 1!... Pretty much the same for the 2nd.. But this is the first time I've actually thought to myself, oh my gosh, she's 3 :( Time has flown by so quickly, and she'll never be this small again.. I'll never have another 2 year old :eek: It's the first time where I've almost been sad that she's growing up SO quickly. Ofcourse I'm excited that its her birhtday.. I just get fleeting moments of sadness :laughing:
Oh my that sounds stupid!
My daughter has a mental problem. Seriously. Children dont act like this...
Ok, she's always been pretty terrible alot of the time, but she can usually compose herself and act like a little girl, not an animal when we go out. Always had her rotten temper, I was coping with that.
The last 2 weeks, I dont know whats wrong with her? I have never - ever - in my life, on any stupid over done tv show, any child i've ever seen in public, or any child I've witnessed in general, act like she has been... Yesterday was the worst by far. If we didnt live on acerage, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that we would have have police knocking on our door.
I actually have no words to describe her, or what shes been doing? None... She's a rotten nasty terrible little girl at the moment, and sometimes, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit she's mine... I've parented her for 3 years. What the hell have I created?
I thought I'd done a pretty good job. Taught her manners, taught her right from wrong, taught her to be caring towards others.. I smacked over very naughty things for a while, which I stopped, hardly would have scarred her for life... A few weeks ago I was actually thinking she was alright.. Her usual foul temper etc, but nothing that was making me question myself as a parent. But the last week.. Oh my god.. Yesterday. She was posessed... A completely different kid all together. Even the noises she made for hours on end. I've never heard them come from a child:confused:
Insane. Absolutely bloody insane she was... Oh and I'm sure some of you get the "OH well when I had children, THEY had tantrums too.. I'm sure they were just as bad. Its compltely normal. All children do it" ... No no no, not all children do this. Its ABNORMAL people. "Well when I was growing up, MY little brother was the same, had a rotten temper.. Yep, completely normal".. What people are failing to understand, is this isnt just a temper anymore.. Its shocking... I love sounding like an over-reacting whinger :(
Leeny :hugs: hun you sound about as over it and confused as i am right now. Ive just been blaming it on the full moon this week in the hopes that she will snap out of it soon before I send myself to the local institution for a break. I mean seriously, what child tries to break a tv just because its on an ad break and she wants the ship back on?
Hi everyone. I haven't read any posts for over a week. We've all taken it in turns to get this stomach bug, and B2 appears to have at least 3 2-year-old molars coming through - that's as much biting of my finger as I could stand.
I've had about 2 hours sleep over the last 3 nights - B2 wants to sleep in my arms, on the lounge. I have "at least" days of constant whinging, nagging and moaning. They won't leave me alone. They've both come in whilst I've been typing this. B2 couldn't even go to daycare yesterday - yippeee - no day off for good behaviour for me this week.
DH has been sick, which meant he was dying and needed the dr - I've been crook for weeks and can't get the time to get near a dr.
Why isn't there a respite service whereby mums can leave the kids with someone for 2 or 3 hours and get some damn sleep so we don't kill the buggers?
I will go and read the posts when I get a chance.
OJ: I saw your post, PM or email me. I'm sure we can catch up somewhere.
Leeny: In case you're around, email me too, we keep talking about meeting up, let's pick a day. Is a Friday afternoon any good?
Is anyone in Brisbane going to the pram ribbon day? if so, know any details? I haven't time to hunt through the site at present, for obvious reasons.
:hugs: to anyone who needs one. Back later.
cocobambino
22-05-2008, 08:25
HIi have popped my head in here occasionaly,
My DD is going to see a clinical pschycologist who can hopefully give me some answers to why my daughter acts like this coz im at my wits end:crying:
Today i lost it and i told him that i am ashamed of him ... i am not a good mum to him i dont read to him i find playing with him annoying and he does my head in i just want a bloodly break from him and everyday issues.
OMG, Did I post this? Or have you been spying on my life.
I told DH to bloody organise someone else to watch the pair of them this afternoon, because I need some sleep, or I won't be responsible for my actions. I can't stand be in the room with them, they want me 2 foot from them at all times, and it's hard to leave to go to the toilet even. B2 is screaming if I go to get him a drink, and if I do get out of the room, I want to stay out, away from them, I don't want to see them until I really really have to ... here's food, don't make a mess, see you next meal time.
Pity it doesn't work that way. But yes, I know EXACTLY how you feel.
zar put herself to bed - unusual came out half an hour later with poo all over her (she is fully toilet trained) it was gross.
I've had so much poo and vomit to clean up lately.
To top it off, a magpie snuck in through a 3 inch crack (door was ajar) and got stuck into breakfast leftovers. I had to open the door properly whilst it experimented with flying through glass - unsuccessfully of course.
To show it's gratitude for the food, it let TWO poos go as it flew out. Both landed inside on the floor, both splattered - did you know bird poo dropped from about 1 metre or so can splatter almost a metre?
So now I'm cleaning up bird poop off my floors as well as dealing with the human variety - all this with constantly moaning and whining 2 year old attached to my leg.
Fiasco, I promise I'll pm you soon :laughing:.. DH finally got a job *FINGERS CROSSED IT STICKS*... He's been trying to get a job for 4 yrs...The downside is I have to stay at home all day every day looking after grandma.. As soon as I know I have a free day, I'll pm you and see if your free.
Look for an email or PM from me - I'll give you my phone number and you can call me, in case one or the other of us can't get online.
I wasn't going to post this.
...
I am so damned tired of doing everything for this child & trying so many different things yet nothing is enough. I've had it.
Ally, I wish I could be there for you!
Don't worry, it's a one off, and not as bad as it could have been. You feel bad about it, you're not going to take it any further, just put it down to being stressed more than anyone should have to be ... if it felt good and you were planning to do it again, or you hit him 20 times across the face, then you might question it, but we ALL know how you feel.
B2 wouldn't stop screaming yesterday because I had the indecency to put him down to unpeg the dry washing and bring it inside. I couldn't make myself heard over his screaming. I put my hand over his mouth to stifle it for a moment so I could talk to him, and realised it was covering his mouth AND nose. I was horrified I had done it - for all of 1 maybe 2 seconds, and I put myself in time out for 10 mins (inside in a different room) to calm down, but I know I didn't have any intentions of suffocating him or anything. It's scary, though, when you realise how many times you've read news stories about it and it starts out "I only wanted to stop him/her from crying ...".
So if you feel like a bad mummy, think how I'm feeling. And today he's still carrying on !!
I sure hope no one reading this gets the wrong impression about me.
I actually have no words to describe her, or what shes been doing? None... She's a rotten nasty terrible little girl at the moment, and sometimes, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit she's mine... I've parented her for 3 years. What the hell have I created?
Ditto
Leeny, come for an afternoon, or a day, or something. We'll put the feral ones in the yard - I'm on acreage too, the one neighbour here is used to feral screams. We'll have to help each other out - you go have a nice hot cup of tea, or sit down and do some paperwork/bills/correspondance or whatever needs to be done to relieve some of your stress, for 1/2 hour whilst I watch the kids, then maybe we can swap. 1/2 hour away from one's feral can help, even if it doesn't solve it. Once the kids get to know one another maybe we can extend the time.
Would that help at all?
HIi have popped my head in here occasionaly,
My DD is going to see a clinical pschycologist who can hopefully give me some answers to why my daughter acts like this coz im at my wits end:crying:
Hi, join the club. Please fee free to share any answers with the rest of us. I'd give my right arm for some real solutions.
Oh yeah, and DH thinks I'm a bad mummy too.
I picked B1 up from daycare (we're all tired and cranky) she whinged the whole way home for things that weren't in the car.
Get home and she go hyper ... keeps mooning me and yelling "poo-poo" and "wee-wee" at me as she pulls her pants down.
Then she climbs the child-proof (ha!) gate as I'm sticking pasta in to boiling water and runs in kitchen.
I stuck her out the back door for 7 minutes (according to clock) with light on whilst I got tea happening, and knowing Daddy would be home any minute (it was 7 mins actually).
Now I'm a terrible mother for locking her outside, screaming. It wasn't that cold, she was dressed for it, she was antagonising all of us ...
I could have smacked her several times, I could have locked her in her room (to destroy it), I could have put her back in the family room to hit B2 ...
Nope, I'm a terrible mummy for putting her outside. Just 2 months ago we talked about it and agreed it was a useful solution because they are safe there, and it gives me some breathing space.
Put it into practise for SEVEN MINUTES and I'm naughty mummy # 1.
I give up.
Fiasco I have done that to DS1 before. We do what we have to to save our sanity and our childrens lives :hugs: You're not a bad mummy.
Things are relatively quiet around here atm. Am proud to say DS2 spent his first night in his 'big boy bed' (single bed) last night and it was great. Took 10minutes to get him to sleep (I did lie down with him) and he only woke twice. He stayed in his room the whole night :smiliedance: He hasn't slept in his room in 6mnths or so. YAY.
Morning ladies....well i think it is morning.
Im so tired at the moment that things are happening and i dont remember doing them. Last night I put Bug to bed in the crash bed, and this morning I woke up to find her in my bed asking for her drink. So i got up and went to the fridge but it wasnt there.....walked back to my room and there it was on my bed head. Now I know there is no way Bug got that drink herself anytime during the night which means I have somehow forgotten her climbing into bed with me and me going to get the drink from the fridge the first time. And no matter how much thinking I have done in last 2 hours, I STILL cant remember it all happening.
I need some rest. I need a break.
M2B: :hugs:
And how is this?
I know I got little support from my family when in Sydney, and none now we're in Brissy, but when I put out a call for help this morning (someone watch the kids for 2 hours, if I don't sleep I'm gonna do something I may regret later), DH got his sister to say she'd come.
Now she's decided not to help (at the last moment) because B2 has a cold.
Uh, if he wasn't sick I would've gotten some sleep over the last 3 nights, and not be calling for help !!
For Pete's Sake you lot !! When a mother of 2 preschoolers is crying out for help, help her !! Or do you want to read another article in the papers about "Mother murders own kids"?
DH has skipped work this afternoon (afterall, we don't need the money, do we?) to let me sleep, but I would've forgone it if he'd just said how unhelpful his sisters were being.
God I hate living somewhere where I know no one.
What ever happened to the good old days where people cared about each other? No one gives a stuff anymore.
** please note that "you lot" does not mean mums on here, just society in general. I re-read this now and noticed that it sounds like I'm being rude to everyone on here. I don't mean it that way !! **
Fiasco :hugs: the problem is hun that the people who do actually give a rats about how we are and if we are coping are the ones who all live on the opposite side of the country to each other. No one else cares. I know no one in my family does anyway.:(
Yeah and then I get the whole "Well you are the ones who decided to move so far away from everyone!" from my mother when I dare to say I need a break for a couple of hours! Families suck........as I keep telling her even if we could afford to move back to Qld (which we can't) we wouldn't be living anywhere near her anyway!
oh and I don't know what is wrong with Mia but she vomited everywhere a couple of nights ago - seemed okay after that but is off her food a bit and vomited again this morning......she seems okay though in general but is obviously sick somewhat and won't eat.
Meanwhile I have been trying really extra hard to be very patient with her lately (thus no posts recently) and her behaviour hasn't been too bad although I still seem to yell at her most of the day!
I am alone.
I am utterly ALONE!!! :smiliedance:
DH has FINALLY lived up to his promise of taking the boys away to his Mums for the weekend.
So they left last night, and won't be back till Monday night!!
I have the whole house to myself!!
I am sitting here, still in my pj's. With unhung washing in the machine, bed unmade. :laughing:
Haven't been able to do any of that since I was 19 and living alone!
samsgirls
24-05-2008, 14:07
Hy OJ&Me,
I am actually sitting in my jarmies too, and the clock has just struck 2pm. I guess u don't really know with your time!:laughing:
No idea!!!!! :laughing::laughing:
Might wander out in a minute and take the nappies off the line.... and maybe just be a lazy sod and throw the other lot in the drier.... Or just leave it till tomorrow.
samsgirls
24-05-2008, 14:14
:laughing:That is my usual plan of action, anyway! I am just lazy tho!
Hi Pajama Girls,
I've been up at a reasonable time, and got washing etc done whilst DH had B2 at the doctors (again), then out to a birthday party with B1. We've just decided not to bother with DH's family reunion (very very extended family) and to let B2 sleep. I feel like getting into my PJs now and joining in your Pajama Party!!
Oh, and B2s tests are all negative, but finally a GP that would listen to us about his chest and all that awful green mucus he's had for 3.5 weeks now !! Poor kid now has medicine for that, and he still looks so crook. He gets a dr visit with daddy, and B1 got a birthday party with mummy, poor B2.
Are we set for Mon week OJ?
Leeny?
I just found I had 3 messages from you guys and BH hadn't told me? I usually get a pop-up ...
Anyone know details for Brisbane's meet on June 1st?
Sorry I havent been online today..... Ive been partying:D
And now my house is trashed, there is 3 loads of dishes to do, the outdoor setting is in the middle of my kitchen area :laughing: and Im sitting on BH amongst all the **** I hid in the study:party:
Gret - i hope you are having a wonderful weekend.:hugs:
fiasco - hope B2 is better soon hun. :hugs:
M2B: Do tell about this partying ...
B2 is finally on the improve. Once we found a doctor who listened to us, and his chest, and said "3.5 weeks? He's not going to improve on his own, it's not viral, it's bacterial - he needs antibiotics" - uh, yes, told your colleague that a week ago.
I don't rush into giving the kids (or us) antibiotics, but when it's clear they are needed, well I didn't want it to turn into pneumonia.
MustangMumma
29-05-2008, 21:20
Evening mummies
Havent been on for awhile hope all the crazy kiddies are acting like :angel: instead of :devil: lol.
Ds is ok he is sick so he is quiet. Hope you's are having a great week
Fiasco - glad to hear someone finally listened :hugs:
As for the partying, yesterday was my birthday (thanks Gret for the birthday thread btw, such a lovely friend) and I had a BBQ party on Saturday for it. THe last person left at 11pm so by then I was too tired to clean it all up straight away like I normally would. :D
I hope everyone is ok. Unfortunately Bug has been in maggot mode all week after a week and a half of beautiful behaviour while she was sick. Aah I knew it wouldnt last.
Happy Belated Birthday M2B happybirthday
I have sat down and asked myself what I hate most about my children.
I think it mainly comes down to 2 things
1) I am sick and tired and just totally fed up with telling them the same thing over and over and over and over again and them just ignoring it. I don't like wasting my time or efforts on anyone that won't listen to me.
2) I hate not being able to leave them alone for seconds without mayhem occuring. This can be broken down into 2 sorts
a. Noise - screaming because I have left the room, or because 1 is doing something to annoy the other
b. Mess - throwing pillows and other things around the room, tipping boxes of toys over the floor, running out in the rain and tramping mud through the house...
If I come in here to post and ignore the screaming I know I will be going back to a mess.
I know the pillows and blankets and anything else they can reach will be all over the floor again, because I tell them at least 4 times a day (sometimes many more) that pillows do not go on the floor, and lounges are for sitting on (not standing).
No wonder I'm depressed when I'm forced to sit in a room with 2 people that pay me no attention, and any departure from that room (to pee, make lunch, attempt to do dishes or washing etc) results in disaster.
I hate being with them, because I know I can't leave the room easily, and that being in the room involves constant reminders regarding the same issue over and over and over, and physically keeping them from killing each other.
I fight to get them ready and in a car for an outing - playgroup, or a visit, and I wonder why I bother, is it really worth it? Should I just sit on my fat backside every day and restrain them?
Shouldn't there be more to motherhood than just keeping them alive until they turn 21?
I thought it would mean I was important to somebody in the world, but I no longer live under that illusion.
Ignore me, I just have to vent ... :hissy:
aww fiasco :hugs: reading your post really hit a spot inside me. So much of it is what i couldve written, especially about the feelings regarding it all.
I really wish I lived closer:hugs::hugs:
I have now asked 4 times in 1 hour for the same few toys to be picked up.
I don't have any tools in my parenting toolbox, I don't know what to do.
I don't want to be here any more.
Motherhood: The act of giving up one's life, sanity and voice to raise another to an age where you no longer have to be legally responsible for them and can turn them loose on an unsuspecting world.
For the benefit of OJ who has too many PMs to accept mine (sorry, it's probably me filling it up - haha)
Our Sunday pram morning tea in Brisbane ...
wet weather option .. meeting under the whales at the museum?? thats FREE .. its UNDERCOVER .. and more importantly its FREE :laughing: the museum cafe is there somewhere .. so there would have to be toilets .. and if families WANT to .. after the morning tea they could go to the museum (free) or the state library (free- can anyone see a theme here??) .. which has a great new kids corner .. etc etc???
Mum2Bug: What would I have to do, hon, to encourage you to move to Brissy? I wish we were closer, too. We seem to have similar issues with kids, and you seem to be bub-hub-available at a similar time to me :-)
Gosh, why does it take days to drive across Australia?
DH is taking out a lotto ticket tomorrow. WHEN we win ... I'll be over to visit like a shot!
Hun believe me, if i could move to brissy i wouldve been there months ago if Gretel had her way. Unfortunately as lax as the ex is with the way i do things, leaving the state is one thing i am not :(allowed to do unless i have a return ticket booked.
you're not allowed to leave :no: coz I said so :p
Myztik, when we win lotto I'll make sure we come see you as well as De, okay?
you're not allowed to leave :no: coz I said so :p
Aww someone over here loves me:D
Nel, maybe we should just win lotto and head over to them!
I might have more of a chance if I actually bought lotto tickets... need money to do that though..
I might have more of a chance if I actually bought lotto tickets... need money to do that though..
How am i meant to win lotto when the one ticket i received for my birthday got a whole 4 numbers on it because nearly all the numbers that came out were in the 30's:hair:
damn inconsiderate lotto balls sheesh :rolleyes:
:p
MustangMumma
01-06-2008, 12:16
DS is driving me crazy he keeps hitting,pushing and jsut acting like a feral i need a blood!y break from the kids
Join the club. If Bug hits me one more time Im going to lock her inside and Im going to go sit in my driveway like a loony:(
MustangMumma
01-06-2008, 12:43
Sounds good if i hear i hate you one more time i will flip,
MustangMumma
01-06-2008, 12:46
At least bug isnt running around the house saying woof woof im a dog he is going feral no matter what i say or do nothing gets through to him
Went to meet.
Will be in tonight.
Thanks for the hug fiasco... hope you don't think I"m a loony...
:( Why couldn't they behave for just ONE day :(
At least bug isnt running around the house saying woof woof im a dog he is going feral no matter what i say or do nothing gets through to him
Wanna bet? For the past five months my daughter has taken to barking at any one who walks past the house like a guard dog, and even when we are out in public.:o
How do you stop a child from losing it when they are told they will no longer be seeing someone anymore? Because right now, she isnt taking it well.
good question De.. if you find an answer let me know. I've been going through that ever since Zac's dad took off again :(
as for acting like animals. Whenever Zac does it I threaten him with sleeping outside like animals do :p he doesn't like the dark so stops it quick smart.
I'm sick and losing my voice so I am ignoring them fighting out the back. If someone cries then I might go check on them lol..
I've one almighty headache, and this time it's not in human form.
I'll pop in tomorrow, just wanted to dish out a few :hugs:to M2B, MustangMumma and Myztik.
OJ :hugs:the boys were pretty good today, don't worry. I didn't notice them running off, so I'm sure no one thinks anything about it. You noticed it, because you had to. You have to rescue them from themselves, but even DH commented on how good the kids were. He only named 1 that maybe wasn't feeling like being on their best behaviour ... and it wasn't one of yours! Wasn't a padded-cell kid at all !! :yelclap: "Ours" (PC kids) were all pretty good today. I was quite proud of the way all the kids conducted themselves. Even B1 and B2 were sharing balloons and food (sooner or later).
B2 fell asleep somewhere between 4:30 (left museum) and 5:00 - partway home, and he's sleeping through the night (we hope :fingerscrossed:)
B1 woke and has had some tea, and is allowed to stay up watching the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe with mummy - she'll fall asleep sooner or later, and no rush to get up tomorrow. It's better than forcing her to sleep and having her wake at 4:00 when I am sleeping !!
Need to rest now, my head's killing me. Dark room, close eyes, listen to tv and B1 ...
See you tomorrow ladies.
(Gosh OJ, saw some of DH photos, and just realised how cutting ones hair lets the, uh, lighter coloured ones, show through. I look about 20 years older than I am! or is that just how I feel tonight? Trouble with going grey early, you always look older than you are. I need a colour.)
Hey guys, I've added some photos from our meet on June 1st. DH took them, so there's mainly B1 and B2, although I snuck into one. Gretel and Leeny aren't really easy to see ... I went mad on him later for not taking some photos of them. Next time.
De, I didn't win the 19 mil on Saturday :no:
Loks like I won't be visiting this week!
Gretel, how are you feeling today? Here's a few in case you need them :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
Im not sure what is going on with Bug at the moment. Every time I feel like tearing my hair out, all of a sudden I get a couple of beautiful days out of her. She was such a beautiful child yesterday, playing with her dad at the park, playing nicely at home, helping me clean up. I cant help but wish she was like that all the time.
Fiasco - bugger about the lotto. I got nowhere either. And I could really do with the company right now.:(
De - It's DH birthday today, and he likes to play the lotto. I've bought him a dual-purpose ticket in the 19 mil powerball on Thursday.
Dual purpose because "honey, I must love you, I bought you a winning lotto ticket for your birthday!" and "by the way, I'm taking off for a week to visit Mum2Bug and Myztik in WA. Have fun with the kids!" which I'm sure will be followed by who? where? uhm, when do the kids have daycare again? who eats what? what am I supposed to do with the kids exactly?
Fingers are crossed fiasco.
Im struggling a bit this morning. I thought I was doing ok but I have got no motivation, no energy and just want to curl up back in bed. I hate how changes in your life can have you going so up and down. :( Bug has woken in a good mood so I suppose I should just be thankful for that. I might go shopping today and treat myself to some yummy steak sandwiches for lunch.
De you and Bug should come spend a day at my place :yes: Kai and Bug can run riot out the back while we drink coffee and ignore all the problems in the world :hugs:
De you and Bug should come spend a day at my place :yes: Kai and Bug can run riot out the back while we drink coffee and ignore all the problems in the world :hugs:
Sounds good hun. Will definitely be up for that.:thumbsup:
Just let me know when suits you :thumbsup: I'm free pretty much any day lol.. I have no life :p
lol. Fiasco you looked LOVELY at the meet!
Well Sunday was the`last day of their half-not-so-bad behaviour.
Monday was SHOCKING!! And on Tuesday kindy RAN OUT of 'naughty fluffy balls" !!! they had about 15 each! completely defiant, deliberately woke up the other kids at rest time, ignored all instructions, screamed at the girls. Threw things. OMG I was soooo ashamed of them!
Yesterday at home wasn't any better, I've resorted back to yelling... which doesn't work and isn't getting me anywhere. ....
I've left them at kindy today with instructions for the girls to call me to come get them if they go out of control again today... and I've told the boys if they're naughty today, their walkie talkies (new favourite toy) are going in the bin.
I'm going to start hitting them where it hurts.... toys!
Monday was a nightmare. We took them to the science centre.. O was disgusting. Screamed and yelled at us the whole time. Didn't listen to ANYTHING we asked him to do. Kept hurting J. ... J was just as bad with the listening.. :hair: ?Timed O out in the midle of the science centre... left him screaming at me from the corner of the room for 3 mins.
I even took them both into the toilet at one stage and gave them a smack...:banghead:
Off to call kindy now to see how they're faring....
Student of Life
05-06-2008, 11:56
HI ladies I have seen you here and thought I really should join as I have 2 kids that really send me to the loony bin! So to introduce myself, I am Bek and my boys DS1 - 7 (next week) and DS2 - 3. I will definitely need to come in here and vent before the day is out I'm sure.
OJ - I'm sorry about the boys behaviour that sounds like a really bad day at kindy. I totally understand the embarrassed/disappointed feeling. I have it often with my DS1. They are probably so bad as they are at it together. LOL Maybe you can suggest they be in a different class at school next year?
Aww Gret :hugs: Im sorry. Its my fault because whenever Bug is well behaved, the twins seem to make up for it.
Here for you hun.:hugs::hugs:
Bek - welcome to the cell. Pull up a cosy chair, feel free to order from the menu and the valium is on the shelf next to the bourbon behind the bar:D:p
Ally - hope you are doing ok hun. Thinking about you:hugs:
Everyone else - OMG they arent behaving are they???
Student of Life
05-06-2008, 12:26
Thanks De, I may very well need some valium! LOL. Vodka is more my drink of choice but seeing as though I am ttc I might have to obstain. What crazy person tries to have another after 2 spirited kids. I must be CRAZY!
reAllytee
05-06-2008, 14:45
Gret - Oh hun :hugs:
De-A - :hugs:
SoL - Welcome * hands bottle of vodka over *
Well mmm i have decided its just me .... My child hates me or this house or whatever & that he goes feral because he is here with me ( or DP nowadays mind you ! ).
He is apparently lovely & gorgeous at kindy, has his moments & is VERY particular about certain things but overall is apparently a wonderful kid .... PFffft :mad::dizzy:
We spent a couple of days at a friends house & because he was around other kids he was the same mmm whats the word not withdrawn but reserved.
Well to begin with :rolleyes:
He of course as always teamed up with the older child who is 6yrs & that was fine until the youngest 18mths tried to join in too. Boof then went mental & started the pushing, shoving, snatching & all that jazz .... Admittedly this was because the 18mth old did it first but yanno he is little *sigh* So we had lots of tears, tantrums & all out wars. Wonderful.
He showed his aggressive nature but luckily my friend is wonderful & didnt care at all because as she said she has the 3 ferals lol.
He then had the lovely nite of waking 3 times for at least an hour screaming etc. Even she agreed that it isnt right so at least on another note i know im not going mad !
Her boys have issues like Squeak's so she is my back up when i need help or just support so it was nice to share a bottle of wine later in the nite both of us crying, laughing & ranting !
Overall though Boof was happy even when the older kids went to school & the youngest off to daycare to play around the house & do whatever. Wish he would do that at home rather than not allow me to even go to the toilet without a running commentary being screamed through the house as to what im doing !!!!
I just want to be left alone. By myself alone with no-one around for miles for like i dunno maybe even just a day would be nice cause i cant even manage to get 10mins !!!!!!!! But in all honesty i would really love a year.
So yes as you can tell im still doing wonderfully :rolleyes:
Aww Ally. Anytime you need someone to talk to, im usually online hun. :hugs:
What a day......Bug has a build up of bile and phlegm in her stomach and has so far vomited 9 times since 1 am. Or is it 10 now? I cant even remember. Might start counting the changes of clothes as they come out of the wash.
MustangMumma
05-06-2008, 15:17
Wanna bet? For the past five months my daughter has taken to barking at any one who walks past the house like a guard dog, and even when we are out in public.:o
How do you stop a child from losing it when they are told they will no longer be seeing someone anymore? Because right now, she isnt taking it well.
:hugs: kids know how to embrass us
:waves: welcome Bek
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:hugs: Gretel, Ally and De
I've been working in the garden the last three days and just exhausting Kai so he's been pretty good lol. My hands are killing me though.
Zac's doing alright lately :fingerscrossed: it stays that way.
I sent his dad a letter on Tuesday outlining my terms and conditions re visitation etc so am now awaiting his reply.. Hopefully he can act like an adult and it doesn't end up going through the courts.
Welcome to the madhouse SoL
Ally, I was left with the kids for 5months to cope on my own whilst we were trying to sell our place in Sydney. DH moved up here to start his new job. I got such an overdose of K.I.D.S. that I reached overload point. DH promised that I would get a long weekend away by myself when we moved up. The weekend after the truck came with our stuff. That was 10 months ago. I'm still waiting.
I've been officially told (by the doctor) to take a good week away by myself in order to de-stress a bit. I know I need a month, but a week will do for a start. Wonder when that will come? Next year, 2 years? 5? 10? I suppose it depends how many years off that long weekend is ... I'm queuing them up! Think I'll add them all together and take a nice long cruise by myself ... want to join me? If I phone DH from the boat and tell him he'll have to get home on time and pick the kids up from daycare and babysit for a fortnight, do you think he'll mind?
Gret: Thanks hun, you make me feel better than B1 does - "mummy. you're really fat!" Thanks honey. "Your bottom hangs over the side of the toilet mummy. Mine doesn't!" And do you think the boys were naughty because they were tired? Sunday the BH meet, Monday the Science centre? I know Thu arvo is always HELL here. Tue B1 is at daycare and B2 wants attention. Wed they're both at daycare (very exhausting for them). Thu morning we go to playgroup. Thu arvo they're both exhausted and hyperactive as a result. They won't listen, cooperate, share, stop kicking each other sit down, stand up, get dressed, or anything else I ask them to do. Once a month we attempt a story-time-craft-time session Thu arvo (they are SUPPOSED to sleep between playgroup and story time ... SUPPOSED TO), and they have trouble sitting still and listening. Why? Because they are TIRED and if they STOP for 5 seconds, they know they will FALL ASLEEP and they don't want that, so they go and go and go. They don't like getting up early on Friday! I know they're tired, and if one magically gets them to stay still for 5 seconds (and I mean 5 seconds) they really DO fall asleep. I can't get them still for that long.
Tomorrow is Friday, Tomorrow is Friday, Thursday afternoon is over for another week ! Hurray! Oh, birthday party for Mr ABC Bear tomorrow - gotta go to the school and stuff the kids full of sugary foods. Yay.
Ahh, I think I belong here!!! I am home. I just found this thread today:D.
I am a stay at home mum with two boys and a 3rd bean on the way ( hoping for a girl for a change)
DS1 is 5 and DS2 is 2 and my goodness they are a handful ( I am being nice - usually i call them the ferals).
So far this week they have drained the 300litre fish tank in our loungeroom, killed DH new grass coming through by going around and around the same spot, eaten a full cake for breakfast this morning and left the crumbs all over the lounge.
I am so tired some days I just want to run away and hide.
The best/worst thing they have done is about 2 months ago when we had 4 days of constant heavy rain it finally cleared up long enough for me to hang out some washing. They were allowed to play on the swings while I did this.
10 mins i was out of sight. And they painted the whole front of my house and verandah with mud. I mean painted oh and they were stark naked in the front yard:eek:
I was so hysterical I had to call my mum. She couldn't understand what i was saying so she raced over and helped me clean up after she calmed me down.
I feel like I belong here - is it ok if I join in. I have many stories especially about DS1.
Kritti :hugs:
Do you sometimes feel guilty because you hate your children?
Do you wish you could "run away from home"?
Do you ever have days when you say "why me"?
Have you ever, honestly, thought "I wish I hadn't had kids" even for 5 minutes?
If you have answered "yes" to 1 or more of the above, then Welcome Home. Yes, you are one of us, sorry to say, come in, find a dark corner, pull up a bit of padded wall, and cry with the rest of us. It's serve yourself valium and vodka, it's over on the shelf near the window.
We don't have answers, but we can all relate to your stories, so let it all out. Then compare notes with our horror tales. :D
Welcome Kritti. Enjoy the white padded walls where you can bang your head and the only pain you feel is the hangover in the morning from the vodka :hugs:
Student of Life
07-06-2008, 23:27
Do you sometimes feel guilty because you hate your children? YES
Do you wish you could "run away from home"? YES
Do you ever have days when you say "why me"? YES
Have you ever, honestly, thought "I wish I hadn't had kids" even for 5 minutes? YES
I got pregnant with my DS only 6 months into my marriage and I have often thought, if I had waited maybe it would have been easier, he wouldn't have been so hard to handle. LOL I know that I have just talking. Everybody says that these spirited kids of ours are the ones that have the drive and successful when they are adults (and we fall in a heap and say THANK GOD!)
Hi Kritti, I am a newbie here also so I look forward to hearing from you all.
Hi ladies.. and welcome to the new comers.. just thought I'd pop in.. Its been a rough day, but dd's been quite reasonable thank god... She slept in for a while, then went to bed without fuss, even though it was a bit late, I was glad about that.. What a sh*t of a day.
reAllytee
07-06-2008, 23:52
Welcome Kritti * hands over another bottle of vodka *
SoL - Yep yanno thats the only thing that keeps me sane is because I know that Boof is going to make something great of himself, that he will make changes in this world. Its just some days I really wish I didn't have to deal with him the interim !!!!!
fiasco - Yep even my mum keeps saying I need a break !!!! Ummmm yep & how is that meant to happen exactly when even she is scared to look after Squeak with all his meds !!!!! Bah ! Although she does keep offering the nite away somewhere .... It was meant to be a long weekend until Squeak was hospitalised ! You would think I need it more now !!!!
Leeny - You are doing really well hun :hugs:
I just find myself removing myself from Boof more & more. I cannot bear to be around him some days. The aggressiveness is just yuck ! He says I spend too much time with Squeak & I understand that but what can I do ?????
On a brighter note he has been playing alone a little better recently as long as i set up lego or trains the 'right' way. Geees maybe he is starting to understand that mummy doesnt always have to be at his side !!!!!!
HELP!!
We have been cooped up due to sickness and now storms for the past few days and we are BOTH going insane. She just wants to escape out into the storm and Im yelling because I dont want her getting sick. Neither of us is coping with this at all. I have had a friend staying for the past few days and I think he is really starting to see another side of me now.
Why does she lull me into thinking she is changing and then WHAMMO, hit me with a day like today where she wont listen, is yelling, throwing, hitting, refusing everything............:banghead:
Student of Life
09-06-2008, 21:56
Oh M2B *hug* It is really tough when they can't run off their energy and they start bouncing around the walls (or beds and couches to be more exact).
reAllytee
09-06-2008, 23:29
Awwww De- A :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
Yep we have cabin fever here too & it sucks but seriously does Bug have a raincoat & wellies ??? If so rug her up & send her out if not BUY THEM !!! Seriously for your own sanity !!!!!
Boof adores going out in the rain & seriously if they are rugged up enough no harm will be done !
Heck if kids in Iceland are out playing in the snow at 10degrees i figure my kids will survive in 15 degree weather !!!!
De I know what you mean :hugs: Yesterdays storm sent Kai crazy too. Doesn't help that it's still crappy out there today either. Hope Bug is being better for you today though.
Thanks for the welcome girls - uh I don't think I will take up the vodka for the moment - not good when you are preggo:(.
My mum had the boys on Saturday night so DH & I could go out to dinner for my BFF's birthday. Ahhh such a wonderful night. There were no kids at our table and there was alcohol for those that could drink Ie DH.
It sounds really mean but I was so glad to have a break without them. Other parents at our table got up a few times to ring their babysitters to see how their kids were doing - not us. I figure if my mum can't cope i'll find out when I get home - not during my dinner:D
I also had two days at work while DH had the kids.:laughing: He was so stressed last night he was packing his work bag ready for the morning and looking forward to his escape.
They have been pretty good this morning so lets hope they stay that way. All in all I had a good long weekend I hope that you girls did too.
Ally - to be honest i have been meaning to buy her some but the money i was going to use had to go on ambulance cover. Will go shopping this weekend when i get paid and get her some.
Nel - today was a bit better. She dealt with a 20 min shopping trip in spotlight today so she did well. Unfortunately my purse didnt....I came home less $10 and with 37 different craft boxes in different sizes for the family to go wild with :D Not my fault the girl was marking them all down to 25c.
I hope everyone is having a good day today and your monkeys are behaving for you
reAllytee
10-06-2008, 22:17
OMG i hope our local spotlight has them for that price tomorrow !!!!! * KA-CHING *
Glad to hear today was better .... Dont worry it took me ages to buy Boof some with my mum nagging me for ages & im soooo glad i did ! I just got a cheap raincoat for him at the Salvos though :o
Nel - today was a bit better. She dealt with a 20 min shopping trip in spotlight today so she did well. Unfortunately my purse didnt....I came home less $10 and with 37 different craft boxes in different sizes for the family to go wild with :D Not my fault the girl was marking them all down to 25c.
Score!! Glad you had a better day. I managed to walk to the school to get Zac, got home, did homework with him and sent the boys outside to play. The minute their feet hit the grass it poured down with rain :rolleyes: LOVE your avatar BTW. Gorgeous :D
Score!! Glad you had a better day. I managed to walk to the school to get Zac, got home, did homework with him and sent the boys outside to play. The minute their feet hit the grass it poured down with rain :rolleyes: LOVE your avatar BTW. Gorgeous :D
Aww thanks hun. It was taken a few weeks back and was only pic she sat still and smiled for. The rest werent worth looking at:dizzy:
Sounds like the one and only lot of Pixi Photo's I got done of my two :rolleyes: Kai cried everytime the camera lady looked at him and Zac kept wiping his nose on his sleeve :laughing:
Yep. Bug is one of those kids that likes to fidget, move around, change positions, gets distracted by all the toys laying around etc. Im so over trying to get some done but I really want to because the things they are doing now with it all being digital is soooo nice.
De - yes I love your new pic too! We've been quiet also due to illness. DD hasn't been too bad but then again I am still trying to be extremely patient with her. Main issues at the moment is her screaming blue murder if I try to put her in a trolley at the shops and the fact that she puts her foot out to kick away the babies at the mother's group! Now that is awful.....she doesn't want them near her or touching anything that she might want to play with. I don't really know how to deal with that as I warn her about it before we go and when she does it and afterwards...........you get the idea!
Student of Life
11-06-2008, 16:13
Hi ladies, we have actually had a good couple of days believe it or not. Once the MSG got out of DS1's system, which took about 48 hrs, he has been really good. He even got green at school yesterday which was an awesome surprise. Green means he has only been warned once. ONCE! ALL DAY!! DS2 hasn't been too bad but he gets very teary and clingy and unable to cope with anything when he has Amines/MSG but is also coming good. YAY!! Let's hope it lasts.
Kat :hugs: If you come up with a solution let me know. Im surprised I havent broken Bugs leg yet as she always hangs them out the side to kick people, shelves, boxes, basically anything that can be kicked.
Bek - Hope all is good for you by tomorrow then. Sounds like a good couple of days coming to you.
happybirthday Bethany is 4 today, and just as lively as ever !!
Our little fairy has grown up so much. It won't be long before she's our big school girl.
happybirthday Bethany :hugs::smiliedance::flowerz:
happybirthday Bethany!!!!!!!
Student of Life
12-06-2008, 15:06
Happy Birthday, Bethany!
Just popping in to say Hi and see how everyone's kidlets are doing. My two are ok at the moment. DH put a new lock on the fridge so they can't get in and eat at 5.30 in the morning. They have to come and ask for food which is helping our food situation.
the weather is cr*p here today so we are inside and so far they haven't beaten each other up yet hmmm we will see.
I hope everyone else has a good day.
Well, looks like I'm breaking the silence. I've had it with the kids today, tried giving them to the neighbour, and even she didn't want them.
Kurt pooed all over the floor, and I had to clean chairs, toys, lounges, curtains, you name it.
I'm not game to say anymore.
Fiasco - :hugs:
I have to admit that the only trouble I have had out of bug this week has been when she is overtired. But now that I have said that, I will probably cop 3 days of hell from her
B1 and B2 wake up overtired.
B2 chased B1 around the room hitting her, jumping on her and head-butting her. She was terrified of him. They'd been up maybe a 1/2 hour.
I don't know what to do with them. Where is the enjoyment parenting is supposed to bring? I don't like the way they behave, I don't like where I live and I don't like DH for dragging me all the way up here. In fact there's not much I do like about my life anymore.
I wish that mother of the twins in the news at present had been in here chatting with us. It might have helped her.
Fiasco - :hugs: that enjoyment is out there somewhere hun, im just not exactly sure which rock it is hiding under.
M2B and Myztik: I notice there's a lady in Perth just posted a "best friend wanted ad" ... she'd be in your neck of the woods wouldn't she?
Here's the link to the page. We discovered there's a lot of us out there hoping to find a "best friend"
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=2243075
(actually, 3 Perth ladies all posted ads in the last 24 hours!!)
What is it with Perth? Everyone seems to be looking for a best friend! Who knows, maybe the 5 of you will form a circle of friends and be there for each other?
Amazingly hun even though we are one of the smallest cities, there are people like me and Nel that will travel up to 2 hours on public transport to see people and yet there are people that wont drive 15 min out of their area to see some of us.
reAllytee
21-06-2008, 12:59
Hey ladies sorry i've been MIA !
I hope Bethany had a wonderful birthday ( that was a name I always loved for a little girl ... DP hates it :rolleyes: )
I will still be coming in here from time to time I just thought I would let you know that from now on I won't be posting like I used to ... Nothing to do with you ladies cause I loves ya all :hugs::hugs:
Nothing really new around here Boof is his usual self which has me losing hope that I will ever regain my sanity & the wonderful Mr G has now started to become the baby that is having nails removed with pliers when I even dare put him down ! Joy !
Hope this finds you all well :hugs::hugs:
Sorry De, I didn't mean to upset anyone. I know what it's like though.
DH travels 1 hour to work, door to door. His boss whinges about him living so far away, and stirs the pot all the time with things like "I won't even go that far for my holidays". DH is sick of it. I'm sick of tradesmen and shop assistants saying "all the way out THERE?!?!?" This "far out" of the city, in Sydney, doesn't even take you halfway out in terms of population density. DH drove well over an hour to go 16km in Sydney traffic, and my last position was often 2 hours - morning sickness all the way there and back.
I find the same thing. I talk to people and they say, oh that's 1/2 hour drive away. So? I think nothing of an hour to the Gold Coast to visit people there. I asked a friend from the Gold Coast to come see us, and she stayed for the night and made a weekend of it so the trip was "worth it". Gee, thanks. I'm not worth it?
Can't understand some people. Sorry if I upset you or Myztik.
Student of Life
21-06-2008, 16:09
Afternoon ladies, i am sorry you have been having a rough time with the little cherubs. My kids have been surprisingly okay the last week or two. DS1 seems to be going really well, and really trying hard with his behaviour at school whereas DS2 has stepped up the emotional monster but that is the way he is wired. I am not looking forward to his reactions when I have another baby to attend to. But oh well, what can we do.
I am one of those Perth ladies that posted in the best friend thread. Is someone here from SOR? I travel all over and actually drive to 45 - 55 minutes to church each sunday. Not a problem with traveling. Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in. HEHE I hope you are all having a good day today.
Oh, fiasco, with regards to the question about enjoying your kids. I went through a time like that when all you can do it see the negative in the situation and the kids just drive you completely insane and you just can't seem to enjoy them. What helped me was to think of 1-2 things each day that went well, that they did good (or at least tried) so that I could encourage then instead of always nagging the boys. I hope that makes sense, it helped me to change my focus. To start with it was really hard to find those things but it go easier the harder I tried. Oh and kiss your kids when they are sleeping, cause they always look like angels then. *hugs*
Amazingly hun even though we are one of the smallest cities, there are people like me and Nel that will travel up to 2 hours on public transport to see people and yet there are people that wont drive 15 min out of their area to see some of us.
That's just coz we're nice people De :yes:
I am one of those Perth ladies that posted in the best friend thread. Is someone here from SOR? I travel all over and actually drive to 45 - 55 minutes to church each sunday. Not a problem with traveling. Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in. HEHE I hope you are all having a good day today.
I'm NOR but always up for a meet :D Pretty sure De is SOR though. We should have a padded cell outing :thumbsup:
Ally: as long as you pop in and say "hi" to us from time to time - we'll miss you.
SOL: Thanks, I'll try. What's SOR mean, too?
NOR = north of the River
SOR = South of the River ;)
Student of Life
21-06-2008, 16:46
Hehe, Sorry fiasco it is a WA thing. Myztik & De, I'm game for a meet up. We might need to stick the kids in a room somewhere and just hide but it could work. Hehe PM me if you are interested.
That's just coz we're nice people De :yes:
I'm NOR but always up for a meet :D Pretty sure De is SOR though. We should have a padded cell outing :thumbsup:
Im actually NOR too, just not quite as north, im in beechboro:D
Wow first time ive been called nice in ages:laughing: Thanks hun!
Bek - Im up for a meet up anytime hun. We just need all the kids to be healthy at the same time:laughing:
Ally - considering things at the moment hun, i completely understand where you are coming from. Take care babe, am always on msn if you want to chat
:hugs: Ally.. Totally understand.
Fiasco you didn't upset me at all hun :hugs:
Perth girls I'm happy to meet up, just let me know when's good for everyone and where and I'll work around it :yes:
I need a vent. Don't bother reading it, I don't care anyway.
I have no emotions left inside me. I have used up all my tears and anger, there is no joy or happiness left. No laughter, no warmth. I am empty inside. Just a shell of the woman I used to be before these Devil's Spawn came into, and took over, my life.
I am a machine, expected to continue functioning. To see no dreariness in tray after tray of dishes. To find no disgust in a sink full of spewed-on clothes. To care not at the repitition of fruitlessly repeating oneself, or continuously catching an escapee and returning them to safety.
A bucketful of sand brought into my house does not anger or sadden me. It simply switches a new program called "clean family room" into "active" mode. A screaming child in his room does not make my heart of steel melt, it activates "ear muffs" so the sound does not impede my ability to function efficiently.
Lack of friendship no longer makes me cry, why does a machine need friends? There would only be less time available for the required routines to run, if time was taken out for chats over coffee.
I used to resent being unable to control the little things in my life, like where I lived. I felt grief each time another of my possessions was smashed or damaged. Now there is no energy left for feelings of hurt or loss. I am completely drained.
I speak to others who have grown kids in an attempt to find when things change, and how they coped. Their stories are mere repetitions of each other. "You chose to be a mother, you have no life now" and "When you're a mother, you have no right to 'special' things", even "You're a mother, you don't expect to get 5 minutes straight to yourself do you?" They are unable to offer any help or consolation. It seems "mother" is synonomous with "burnt-out", "exhaustion", "lonely" and "non-human". It certainly means you have no "life" and no right to be happy or satisfied in your day-to-day life. No time to yourself - without severe consequences anyway.
It may be true that a young mother should delay accumulating special or sentimental, or even merely decorative items until her offspring are grown and away from home, yet in the modern world of older mothers, what should one do with items that predate baby? Locked doors, gates and high places are no match for the determined young ones of today.
I am so unhappy with the way my life turned out that I am simply numb. It does not feel like my life. It seems I have fallen into someone else's drugery. The slave, stolen from their homeland, dragged kicking and screaming to another's, and expected to learn their place in the new scheme, and never worry about satisfaction or thanks.
In some life past I was encouraged to think, and believe in myself, and equality. That is a myth. There is no equality. A woman has no right to think. The saddest wastes in the world today are the gifts of intelligence and strength of character in the baby born without a pen!s.
:hugs::hugs::hugs: Sue... I haven't been on bubhub too much in the last couple of weeks, so I haven't caught up on what was going on lately yet.. I think we've all had days where we feel exactly what you've just put into words.. I know I have..
Have you had a few hours just to yourself lately, or is that a stupid question? It certainly sounds like you need it :hugs:
I guess I did, finally, learn an important life lesson though. There is a reason why people don't want to hear you say how miserable you are. A reason why they want the subject changed, yet don't seem surprised by it.
The truth is: A woman is not supposed to be happy.
No one wants to tell you that. Yet they know it. A woman is supposed to juggle work-family, or a woman is supposed to give up her career for her family. A woman is expected to be the primary carer for the kids, give up her hobbies and friends. A woman is expected to sacrifice everything. Why, well, she's got no right to be happy, so it doesn't matter if she gives up everything that fulfils her.
If society stopped pretending otherwise, it would stop all the young girls being so confused. It'd stop the woman going through a crisis when she works it out for herself. Stop those who wake up one day with the realisation and take it out on their kids. If we were told that we are to give up our own identity and personal happiness BEFORE we had kids, then we'd truly know where we stood and could make a fully informed decision.
B1 will be brought up with the truth.
If she chooses the wife mother, no life path - then marry young whilst there are fellas available who won't abuse you, and can provide for you. Have kids young whilst you can physically keep up with them, and your mother is still able to help occasionally.
If she chooses to follow her intelligence, have a career, pursue friendships and hobbies, and enjoy life, then do not marry or have kids.
You can't travel both roads at once, and changing mid-journey means encountering some rocky terrain.
I was selfish. I admit it. I went out with my sister-in-law to see a show on Saturday night. I get home to sleeping kids. Great I think. DH has apparently spent the night drinking in front of the tv. He mutters something about B2 not being well and cleaning up the vomit, and also about my wanting to wash my trousers that I wore out - when I'm ready.
They were warm, so I waited till ready for bed, 11:30ish. B2 is sleeping peacefully, no signs of being sick again.
Hmm, I go out to add the pants to the waiting load ... and I find vomit clothes, blankets, pillows, towels all in the sink !!
To cut the story short, DH didn't want to wash the load already in the machine, because it was waiting on my trousers. He didn't want to wash vomit off until the machine was empty to dump the stuff in (what's wrong with the sink, buckets or shower all right there too?). He didn't even think of emptying the machine and washing that load tomorrow.
Now I was told over and over that he'd attend to the vomit, I said it couldn't wait till morning - it'd dry on and be hard to wash off. So I stuck on the load in the machine whilst we argued about it. It'll be 12:30 am by the time the load finishes, and then vomit must be washed off, and that load put on.
DH, in spite of his words, goes to sleep. I am the idiot up till 1 am washing off vomit and doing 2 loads of washing.
Was it worth going out? Any destressing was made up for when I got home.
Supposed to have tea with the playgroup mums on Friday. I don't think I'll go, I don't know how I'll be punished that time for taking time to myself.
Don't think its selfish to go out... Everyones entitled to a break, it just so happens that some of us have lazy dh's who don't make it very easy.
Hypothetically, let's say your right and its either one path or the other... I think theres way too many women who defy one or the other to say that its just not possible to do both.. Kids are not young forever, and while we may have some of the most... *cough*... Spirited children around, they wont be small forever.. Soon, they'll be in school and work life will pick up as it should (if thats what you want), wether it be the job you left behind, or if you're going in a whole new direction in your career, or even starting your own business. You really can do both if you want to, it may just be a while before you're able to juggle both..I'm not trying to contradict everything you're saying, but I think you need to stay hopeful that when your kids grow and are no longer dependent on you, that you can pick up where you left of..
You're a good mum, and you do a great job :hugs: Are you ever free thursdays? I can't remember!
Aww Sue, hun I really dont know what to say :hugs::hugs: I just wish I could be there to give you a hand and to kick a certain person where it hurts to teach him a lesson.:hugs::hugs:
Student of Life
23-06-2008, 22:28
Fiasco, :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
I have been there, I really have. Although my DH is actually really helpful. Your DH needs a really good kick in the pants. It is really really hard to find yourself when don't get time to just be yourself.
I would just be worried that you are falling into depression. I am worried about you.
Just for good measure, some more of these. :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
reAllytee
23-06-2008, 23:43
Oh fiasco :hugs::hugs:
I can somewhat sympathise but it doesnt make it any easier to cope with or accept that you are stuck with a moron of a male in the house who either wont or cant help you out for whatever reason !!
Things will get better they have to & thats what i keep telling myself & well i see it with others so our time will come.
When my mum starts on the cr@p about " well this is what you wanted & this is what having kids is all about " ... I want to smack her ... VERY hard !
I really dont think many people 'get' what type of kids spirited kids are. So many often say " ohhh mine is very full on too yanno " or " mine is a handfull at times too ! " ... WELL COME TAKE HIM THEM PLEASE BY ALL MEANS IF YOU CAN HANDLE IT THEN COME TAKE HIM !!!!!!
The only person I know who gets it is my Aunty cause she has the 5 boys but one expecially who aaaugh lol. She always giggles but in a nice way lol that Boof is exactly like him ... Awesome his OCD is verging on Jack Nicholson's character in ' As Good As It Gets ' ... Wonderful .... He is wonderful though & will do anything to help if he can, he can just be rather full on.
Im just not looking forward to the neighbours dragging him home or then later maybe the Police ... Oh please not the Police PLEASE !!!!
It does get better & it will get better ... We just have to cling to dear life until then :hugs::hugs:
dancingqueen
24-06-2008, 14:35
Hi can i join this group? I have a very highly spirited dd5 and a dd2 who is lets say "normal" and it was only after dd2 was born that I realised it wasn't my fault that DD5 is so full on!
She has started school this year and is doing exceptionally well and thrives in an academic world and is full on all the time. She drives her little sister round the twist with all her instructions on how to do everything and if dd2 doesn't follow perfect then DD5 blows up at her. She is so sensitive and an emotional rollercoaster. By nature she seems to get very grumpy very easily.
I have started her on a course of fish oil for kids (both of them actually) and this seems to have cut her tirades in half instead of a full blown screaming session for an hour she lasts all of 15 mins. She argues with me still over everything, she has what I call a "diva complex" and has an amazing memory!
Fiasco I just had to reply that I feel like a slave too with no way out! I think if my DD5 was a lot easier to deal with and instead of dealing with all her"dramas" life would be much happier and I would too see the joy of being a parent. I do have that without DD5 around which I know sounds terrible, but would dearly love it with both my daughters.
Glad to find this tread with people in the same boat as I have always felt that it was my dirty little secret that no one would understand.
debplus3
26-06-2008, 16:26
Hi there
I saw this thread and just had to jump on. I have a 2 year old who is just so full on that sometimes I don't know what to do. Today has been a classic example of his behaviour. I can also relate to the hopeless DH stuff. He works very long hours and when he is home, he doesn't really do much of anything help.
I have been very low at times and have really learnt that I HAVE to take care of myself, because no-one else will!!
Fiasco, I am really feeling for you. I know that "cyber mates" aren't as good as in the flesh ones, but I am happy to be here for you.
My son's latest thing is that he cries/screams over everything. Even the wrong look can set him off.
Any other over active, over emotional 2 year olds out there??
Thanks everyone for all your support.
Following B1's stunt this morning my 2-children-difficulties were nearly over. Miraculously B2 lives another day.
Hi to the Newbies in the P-Cell. Bye from me for a while. I have some things I need to sort out. I'll be back in a few weeks. I will get PMs but won't be in here for a while.
fiasco thats what i was thinking
allyoo i hate when dh is home he does my head in, it feels like i have 3 chn to look after.
happybirthdayhappybirthday for tomorrow hope you get your rest lol
Ha I feel the same way!! He is home today and all he has done so far is whinge and mess up my kitchen (after I just cleaned it- I HATE that).
Sue we are all here for you any time hun. will pm you later for a chat. Take care. :hugs:
Copied from another forum im in.....
Sunday night in Emergency After Hours Dr
I think the title says it all. We have just gotten home after a not so lovely trip to the after hours doc at Swannies after bug decided to wrap a chair around one of her fingers. I have to admit it is pretty messy, to the point i nearly fainted looking at it.
She can expect to lose the nail, and has damaged the nail thats growing under the skin (or was) coz its now on top of the skin as well. I have just finished cleaning the bathroom (second time today) and getting all the blood out of everywhere.
My poor baby girl. The dr couldnt even tell me as to what any future damage might be until the swelling goes down and the nail falls off. That chair is now headed for the shed.
Student of Life
30-06-2008, 23:04
Sorry to hear about Bug's finger! Sounds quite nasty. I hope you get some good news from the Dr tomorrow.
:hugs: for you and Bug De. Got your PM just now.
Bek I hope you get the PM in time. I'm so so sorry to cancel on you hun :(
WorkingClassMum
01-07-2008, 11:32
:hugs: Poor Bug :hugs::crying:
Well we are back from the doctor, her fingernail is a mess and will fall off quite far back into her finger, and she is going to have to watch her hand now for a few months until it grows back. We still wont know atleast for a couple of months as to whether it will grow back properly because of the extent of the damage but the doctor is hopeful that it will be fine. She is still in a bit of pain but coping well, my poor little girl. The only problem now is i have to go buy some mittens coz she cant get gloves on over the dressings and her hand is freezing.
WorkingClassMum
01-07-2008, 21:25
I only in here on day stay - seriously - I'm really ok
Well - I'm not
Somewhere in the past week DD put an elastic hair tie on our dog's tail. With being busier than normal and a very fluffy dog - I didn't notice
When I found it last night - it was nearly too late. Up to the vet today, stiches, cream, tablets $180 dollars - and a dog who may still lose his tail
This on top of DD stealing a permanent marker from kinder and deocorating the bathroom and toilet walls at home
and taking a "treasure" map from DS's room and writing his name all over it
and carving a "sun" in DS's chest of drawers
and teaching a boy in her swimming class how to swim under water by shoving his head under water
and skylarking at swimming by diving under the ropes and "goosing" the teacher who'd panic cos he lost sight of her
and picking tiles off the bathroom floor
and climbing on a chair to take my keys to help mummy by going outside the back to start my car - which she did
I want to see her as a spirited child - I dont want to see her as a problem child
Rant over - the men in white coats said I can go after I spill my guts...
Student of Life
01-07-2008, 22:17
Oh dear Kayte **hugs** One of those days/weeks! Yes you still love her! Yes she is spirited and when she has left your home as an adult, she will be someone else's problem (no I didn't really saying that) and will be an amazing success!!!!!!!
**hugs**
Oh Kayte.....I dont know what to say hun except that I hope the dog ends up being ok :hugs: Not enough hugs could be enough for you right now
:hugs: Kayte
I haven't been around too much lately, things have been hectic to say the least.
Last Friday we got hit by a massive storm/little cyclone thingy and it wiped out our power mains. They needed to dry out and be replaced so we had to live at my mums for 3 days (not fun when my aunty and uncle also live there). Zac then threw up all over my mums bed on saturday night and has had the runs ever since so been off school until today. I got what he has yesterday then Kai threw up all over his bed last night.
School holidays start on Friday (which is also Kai's 2nd birthday) so expect to see more of me then :p
Student of Life
02-07-2008, 14:56
Sounds like a stressful week for you, Nel. Let's hope it all settles down for all of us.
Got a call from the school at 11 saying Zac had spent all of recess in the toilet so I went and picked him up. He's being a right **** though. Wont stay in bed, keeps throwing things at the door etc..
Student of Life
02-07-2008, 15:25
Oh that sounds like a bundle of fun for you, Nel. Is there a possibility of tying him to the bed? or would that be against the law? ;)
Not sure I'd want to clean up the mess if he couldn't get to the toilet in time :laughing:
Student of Life
02-07-2008, 16:13
mmmm yes didn't think of that. ;)
jellibeen
06-07-2008, 14:20
:wave:Hello,
my name is Josie and I have two sons - current 4 and 5. The 5 yo is generally a well behaved boy - he likes to try to do the right thing, and ahtough he definitely is 'more intense' than your average child, being the same myself I understand where he is coming from!
Number 2 however, is a different kettle of fish. TOday I was so exhausted from his constant pestering that I accidently threw my favourite earrings in the bin instead fo the rubbish! So I have searched for others with similar stories. Your posts sound so familiar.
I just needed so much to hear other mothers who come from the same angle - and not just nod and say 'all children are like that' - because frankly - they're not!
I look forward to getting to know you all.
Josie
Student of Life
06-07-2008, 21:47
Hi Josie and welcome to the Padded Cell! LOL
My DS2's catch cry is I want you, Mummy! Or I want to sit on you! He is very specific with requests and if they aren't followed exactly he will have a melt down. My eldest wasn't this much work at this age but he has definitely been a challenge but since we have worked out his food intolerances he is usually quite easy to manage. But buy DS2 is very intense and it is a word I always use to describe him. Lovely, affectionate and intense! LOL God help me with #3 comes along. DS2 won't know what's hit him!
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