~*November 07 mums and bubs*~ #4

[sasa]

NO multi quote button!!!!! I am not sure why but I have lost the multi quote button? So I will have go at personals....

AB happy birthday for the other day I hope you had an awesome day! I can see what you mean about the kids looking similar, they are gorgeous!

Shana you really do have an amazing attitude!

Kaybee sorry to hear Ava wasn’t feeling well, I hope she is better already! And of course any one else that is or has kids that are feeling a bit under the weather.

RB so glad that MJ enjoyed preschool, must be such a weight off your mind knowing that she loves it and great to have some time to spend with Ani. Hopefully you will hear from the sleep school this week.

Nan I hope Eden has calmed down for you, it is tough following through with things like not letting them do something as a consequence for their behaviour but I believe all worth it for the greater good. You’re doing a great job!

BTW Moops and Vesp I can’t wait to hear the results of your pending tests!


Sands, yep still thinking of number 3 quite often, Blake wants to get married before we have another so we will see if we can fit it all in by the end of the year. My sister in law is pregnant so am being reminded of pregnancy often and am sort of clucky for it! How have your nights been with Noah?

Kittylou, good luck with number 3 on its way soon!!

Really busy weekend here, had a few friends over on Friday night to play pool and have a few drinks, probably the second biggish kind of night for me since dd2 so again on Saturday not feeling to crash hot.. I was quickly remembering the positives of not drinking!
Then yesterday to the markets and DF’s dads house, was a really nice afternoon, they have so many animals, horses, dogs, birds guinea pigs etc so DD1 had a ball!

Mmm what else was I going to write?
Trying to hit the diet hard this week, I have become very lazy about it all and just so desperately want to fit into my clothes!
Having a home day today so be back soon… I never seem to make it on here much on the weekends lately.

Ok so i worked it out with the no multi button - I wasn't logged in for some reason..???

[perrywinkle]

RB - what a night! Hope you get a phone call soon.

Well my little girl turned 5 mths yesterday :crying: before I know it she'll be running around the place. It has gone so quick.

Here's some pics of my big girl-

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Anyway we're off to the library soon as soon as she wakes up then doing some study this afternoon.

:wave:

[sasa]

Aww gorgeous pics Perrywinkle, what a cutie!

Hasn't time flown!

Good luck studying this afternoon.

[sandralee]

<shudder> Horrid horrid HORRID night here lol! He lulled me into a false sense of security with dummies at night - thought we were doing well (with only several dummy runs!) and then he ripped the rug out from under my feet. Sooo... now we have total dummy elimination and encouraging him to suck his thumb instead. He sucks it for a while, then has a hissy fit lol! So far he has had a 90min sleep without me helping join up 2 sleep cycles.. then the 2nd sleep he had a little tanty & ended up falling asleep clutching a nappy for comfort. (I have been using rolled up nappies either side of him when I pat his bum off to sleep, and Steve is buying him a sleep positioner today so that we don't have any more nappies ending up over his face.) Even this patting off to sleep is new to me as I have never had to do it.. but if this is the last habit to change well that's fine with me. Tonight might be a long old night but can't possibly be worse than a lot of other nights we have had. :D I am giggling at this thought: have seen 'night lights' that you put around your head, like a miner LOL - keep picturing myself wearing one as I have no hands free while patting his bum with one hand and holding his shoulder with the other lol. We have never had him 'waking up' through the night (as hard as it has been in other ways) and I can just imagine him looking around the room if I leave a night light on. But I need to see what I am doing, so might buy some of those round camping lights, that are very dim, and you press them to activate the night light, then press it in again to turn it off. I have seen them in cheap shops before but haven't been able to find any in stock lately.
My dad is going back to brisbane today so will be back on later to catch up on the goss that I have missed.
Confession of the day: I considered sedation for Noah this week, when I was on my 50th dummy run in the wee hours - but have decided against it now that I am fully awake (well kinda lol). Too dangerous with SIDS etc and the side affects. But I swear to the heavens above, that it crossed my mind so many times last night.. to do it for a week and ease him into good sleep patterns. Er.. REALLY good sleep patterns lol... like 12 HOURS STRAIGHT hehe!
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[Rainbowbrite]

Love the pics!!

Well they called & we have an appointment on monday. A week to wait but at least there is an end in sight!! He's been a nightmare this morning, refusing to leave my arms, screaming if I put him in the cot etc. But the thing that gets me the most is right now he is so happy, giggling at me, blowing raspberries, sticking out his tongue etc.........I can't be mad at that :D

[shymmer]

Doing it tough, huh Sands? Love the 'miner hat' nightlight idea. LOL. Can you not put a hall light on? Or one somewhere nearby so only a bit shines in the room? I have a bedroom lamp in the living room on all night which does the trick. (I want to buy a propper reading/floor lamp with a dimmer on it, but have yet to)

Well we had a nice but huge weekend. Xav hardly slept at all both days, but do you think that made any difference to her sleeping habit?? Noooooo. Not one iota! And today she has pretty much slept the entire day away and is still asleep now! Must be exhausted. The only thing I'm actually concerend about is she has only had about 100ml all day. She just isn't interested in her bottle.

RB - glad the sleep centre got back to you. Hope it sorts some things out and you get more rest.

PW - Alice has such beautiful skin!

Sasa - you look great! But I know what you mean, I don't fit into most of my shorts/jeans. And the ones I can get done up are so tight I look like a tart who should know better! LOL

[krixly]

Well a very big hello to all of you lovely mummies!! It has been SO long since I posted. I am not even going to try to give personals tonight coz there is way too many!!!!

I have had a quick skim and see that there has been heaps happening for you all. :hugs: to mummies or bubbies that are sick. Also, :hugs: to all the mummies with bubbas with sleeping troubles.

Nehemiah is doing so great at the moment!! I can't believe he is 5.5 months already! He is such a good boy and just seems to be so 'easy' to handle these days. (sorry to those of you who are struggling, i don't mean to rub it in your faces!) He is a big boy at 9.5kg!! He is also in 0's in everything now, and only occasionally fits into 00's. Not sure of his length though.......

He continues to sleep incredibly at night and usually goes down between 6-6.30pm and wakes at 6am. Pretty much without fail!! :smiliedance: Having 4 bottles a day and now 2 solids 'meals' a day. He is having 3 sleeps a day which are usually all catnaps, but occasionally sleeps for 1.5-2hours. (no complaining here though ;))

Someone mentioned using a bath seat. I have just got one this week and Nehemiah just LOVES it!! He loves being able to reach out and play with the bubbles and duckies in the bath. It is way easier to actually bath him too!!

Moops & Ves - gotta do a test guys!!! I should actually add here that we BD the other night (non-contraceptively!) and then realised after that I was probably ovulating!!! AND we got pregnant first try with Nehemiah! argh!!! Not too worried coz we were planning to start TTC again in July/August. It would just be a little earlier than we planned. Will wait and see.....

ANYWAY, i am going to try to stay up to date with the discussions and try to get on here a bit more often. Have a good night ladies! :fingerscrossed:

[sandralee]

Doing it tough, huh Sands?
*******Oh yeah baby!! Hasn't had his dummy since last night now - since I put him down at 6.15pm I have been into his nursery several times to give him a bit of a pat. Some nursery visits are relatively quick while others involve a bit of sleepy gizzling & a quick cuddle to reassure him. Still tired from last night lol, and wondering what kind of a night I will have... :confused:
With boobs AND dummies gone, at least he owns 2 thumbs lol.. which I don't have to sterilise or dummy-chain to his suits.
Can you not put a hall light on?
Our hallway lights are quite bright, but there is a room nearby that will do the trick. Only reason I want those small camping lights, are in case I see his eyes open - then I can step on it quickly to turn it off. Definitely don't want to encourage night 'waking' cos I wouldn't know what to do. (as in 'eyes wide awake - please play with me mummy eyes!) Tonight I have one of our 'glow eggs' just outside the nursery - if Noah sees it he will want to either stare at it/play with it or eat it. It could be a very long night indeed, but he has surprised me before.
The only thing I'm actually concerend about is she has only had about 100ml all day. She just isn't interested in her bottle.
*****Some days are like that here too, so you are not alone there Shan.


Sasa - you look great! But I know what you mean, I don't fit into most of my shorts/jeans. And the ones I can get done up are so tight I look like a tart who should know better! LOL
**** LOL!! SAME!!! It's so annoying - I fit into a few things, but this has made me realise how many tailored/fitted things I used to wear before!


I have had a quick skim and see that there has been heaps happening for you all. :hugs: to mummies or bubbies that are sick. Also, :hugs: to all the mummies with bubbas with sleeping troubles.
******Thank you, and I am happy for you that you got a 'placid one' lol! I have a fiesty little fireball with lots of energy!


He continues to sleep incredibly at night and usually goes down between 6-6.30pm and wakes at 6am. Pretty much without fail!! :smiliedance:
****OMG I can't even begin to IMAGINE what that would be like! I really can't! If it happened here I wouldn't be able to sleep cos I would be checking his breathing constantly lol! It would actually freak me out for a while to start with.. if it ever happened! :D

I should actually add here that we BD the other night (non-contraceptively!) and then realised after that I was probably ovulating!!! AND we got pregnant first try with Nehemiah! argh!!!
******Er ditto to both! I had to take the morning after pill for peace of mind! Not ready for number 3 here yet, still have a lot of work to do with number 2.

"My name is Sandra and it has been 10 minutes since my last visit to the nursery.."

And it is SO not comfy to hang half your body over a solid wooden cot every 5 or 10mins! FOR 5-10mins lol! The next baby we have is also not using anything that I would potentially haveto wean them off - dummies.. papasan swing to sleep in... snugglebed...and only sleeping in our room for the first month!
Night beautifuls - I don't know whether to stay awake all night so it doesn't feel like so much of a chore, or sleep while I can and risk feeling like **** when I get jolted out of my long awaited coma.

Sweet dreams - and either of those meet-up days are good for me I think. Brain not working. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[Rainbowbrite]

We had a much better night here. He had a dream feed at 9.30 & didn't wake till 2.30, then back to bed till 6 :smiliedance: He did grizzle a lot but I let him go. He is right next to me anyway so I knew he was ok. Just put him down & had to cuddle him to sleep. I wouldn't care if I had to do it for every sleep, so long as he sleeps.

My back is so sore though, not sure if its from holding him so much, but its right across my lower back. Hurts to do anything so MJ is being my helper :D Just had to hang the washing out though........in the rain. Our dryer died last week & am waiting on one to be delivered thursday, we're using Radio-rentals. Can't live without one, not with 2 kids!!

Hope everyone is well :hugs:

[melbryan]

My back is so sore though, not sure if its from holding him so much, but its right across my lower back. Hurts to do anything so MJ is being my helper :D . :

Mine too I had to put Ashton in a portacot as we painted his room and it is too fumy so had to bend intot he PC which has made my back hurt,

[Rainbowbrite]

Just closed the old thread & transfered the last page to this new one :D

[AliyahBlake]

Well a very big hello to all of you lovely mummies!!

Nehemiah is doing so great at the moment!! I can't believe he is 5.5 months already! He is such a good boy and just seems to be so 'easy' to handle these days.

He continues to sleep incredibly at night and usually goes down between 6-6.30pm and wakes at 6am. Pretty much without fail!! :smiliedance: Having 4 bottles a day and now 2 solids 'meals' a day. He is having 3 sleeps a day which are usually all catnaps, but occasionally sleeps for 1.5-2hours. (no complaining here though ;))

Hey Krix! Long time no see!

That's great your little man is doing so well. Blake's starting to get easier now too - he's not sleeping through at night yet (wakes up once so that's not too bad), but his day routine sounds quite similar to Nehemiah's. I started him on solids for brekkie yesterday which he loved!

Blake is 5 months old today........wow that's flown!!!



We had a much better night here.

My back is so sore though, not sure if its from holding him so much, but its right across my lower back. Hurts to do anything so MJ is being my helper.

I'm glad you had a better night RB - you so deserve it!!

I'll join the sore back club - my back's stuffed from nursing, but has been made worse by lifting Blake. It is quite lovely having a "helper" though - Aliyah loves helping me with everything so I give her lots of little chores to do.

Aliyah has been an absolute :devil: the last few days, but I think I've worked out why. She complained this morning that she didn't sleep very well last night as she had to keep getting up to wee. Then she said her wee hurt when it came out so she could only do "half wees". She has been really hard to deal with for about 4 or 5 days and its getting worse - tired, moody, grizzly etc. I just put it down to a stage she's going through, but now I think it might be a urinary tract infection (UTI). All the symptoms fit, and I feel so guilty :o that I didn't spot it earlier. I have made an appointment at the GP this afternoon so I'll pull her out of preschool early and go to get her checked. She said she felt a bit yucky this morning but really wanted to go to preschool, so I clued the teachers in when I dropped her off and told them to ring me if she became unwell - so far no calls yet! I hope she's ok as we have Blake's christening this weekend, so I want her to be well for that.

ETA - Just got a call from the preschool - she has a temp and a sore tummy - looks like a trip to the GP earlier if I can get in!!

[sandralee]

After many trips to the nursery before I went to bed, the night got better - better than when he had dummies LOL! Even though he soaked his grobag and sheets at 4am, he actually opened his eyes when I was changing him and I panicked cos I didn' know how I was going to get him back to sleep. Just ignored him and we didn't have a problem at all, he drifted off in seconds lol!
He keeps saying 'ung-ung' when I put him to bed (which is what he called his dummy), but he will never get them back lol... NEVER!!!
Sasa they are gorgeous girls names!
Moops how cool about Luca crawling! xxxxx

[AliyahBlake]

Looks like my thoughts were right - the GP thinks Aliyah has a UTI - we have to get a urine sample sent off still, but the symptoms are pretty conclusive. I just have to get Aliyah to drink so she'll wee, then I can start her antibiotics. Poor little thing is pretty unwell - her temp at preschool was 38.8 - it's down to 37.5 now after I gave her nurofen. Lots of TLC and cuddles this afternoon I think - hopefully Craig can get off work early!!

[shymmer]

Afternoon ladies,

Sands I hope your night was better than you expected. I'm letting Xav go back to sleep after her bottle without the dummy as much a possible, but have to admit I am guilty of popping it in if she starts squirming too much. I'm also kind of dreading having to swap to the wooden cot when the time comes as the portacot is easy to lean over (the basinett insert is fairly high). I am wondering how long I'm going to have before I have to put her lower . . . when they can pull themselves up? When they can sit up?

On a good note. Xav has transfered asleep from the car to bed twice now! That's exciting! LOL

Question: Xav is a month overdue for her 2nd vacs . . .but she still has this slight cough. Does it matter how long I wait before getting them?

[Kittylou]

AB - poor Aliyah!!! Hope she gets better soon.

Shana - when they can sit up you need to adjust the cot to the lower position.

Sandra - glad you had a better night with Noah.

RB & Melbryan - hope your backs don't cause you too much grief. It's a horrible thing to have when you have no choice but to pick babies/kids up.

Not much doing here. Today was DS's first day back after holidays so just Sophie and I again. We went for a quick trip to the shops this morning to pick up a dress I had ordered in and I tried to be really quick so that we got home in time to put her down in the cot for her sleep. But she fell asleep in the car anway. I managed to bring her in, wrap her and pop her in the cot and she drifted off to sleep but only slept for another 40 minutes so woke up at 12.15pm - 15 minutes after I would normally put her down!! It's been a long couple of hours of entertaining but she's pretty good. As long as I'm right there singing, tickling, reading books etc she's fine.

Anyway, bottles to make up and a school run to do. Then a guy is coming to fix the air con in my car - it's been a tough couple of weeks without it but fortunately it hasn't been too hot.

ETA: RB - I'm glad to hear that MJ loved preschool. It'll be so great for you to have some time out, especially knowing that she is perfectly happy too.

[sandralee]

AB - massive angel hugs and healing vibes to Aliyah, so that she is healthy and happy again in no time! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Just put Noah down for his 4th nap of the day lol - I have the sleepytime routine off pat, that's for sure. He is all cuddly today, for the first time since thursday it is just the two of us again..I think he already misses the garden walks with my dad, cos he has been kinda clingy!
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[Rainbowbrite]

Oh AB :hugs: for you all!!

Shana, when they can pull themselves up I think is the time to drop the level.....but I didn't use a cot with MJ so don't really know :o On the vax thing, it doesn't matter, just means that they will push the next one back too.

Thanks Kitty. MJ can't wait to go back.

Ani confuses me. This morning I cuddled him to sleep & he slept in the cot for 2 hours!! Other than that its been 1 40min nap :rolleyes: He's tired now but refusing to sleep.

[Kittylou]

He's tired now but refusing to sleep.

I'm hearing you there!! Sophie has only just gone to sleep again since 12.15pm - even though she's been yawning and whingeing off and on since 2.30pm. I will never understand why babies fight sleep when they are clearly tired - I would never turn down an opportunity to sleep!!!

[Moops]

Hi everyone!

AB - hope Aliyah gets better soon, poor little thing has had a rough trot lately!

We had an ok night, started off terribly with Luca waking up at 11pm for an hour, which is DH's fault! He woke to feed him (which I wouldn't have done) and he was so noisy and getting noisier the more annoyed he was getting so needless to say Luca was wide awake. Dh came back to bed and when I asked if he was asleep he just said "No, but lets see if he settles himself!" Hello he never has! So I stormed out of bed and spent another half and hour calming him down! After that he slept till 6.50am!

We are off to Luca's first swimming lesson in a couple of hours! I'm quite scared he's going to hate it actually. I feel like I have been preparing for leaving for the lesson for weeks! When shall I feed him, when shall he sleep, what if he doesn't!? It's ridiculous! Because Luca only ate at 11pm and had 240mls a couple of hours ago (the whole bottle) I don't know whether to give him more so he isn't hungry for the lesson cos his next bottle is after the lesson. God this is hard!! :laughing:

[Nan]

Hi girls!
Wow! We can chat.....thread no 4 already!! lol

krixly - Nehemiah sounds a lot like Caleb. Their routines are very similar, except Caleb sleeps from 7pm-7am.

Just on that, now that he is sleeping 12 hours at night I tried moving him to 4 hourly feeds as he was showing signs of not wanting them as often. It worked out fine. He had feeds at 7, 11, 3 and 7 yesterday and slept until 7 this morning as usual. I noticed he just drank more at each feed, which is good. I am one VERY blessed mummy. He is just doing so well. In crawler nappies for a while now, size 00 clothes and 0 grow suits. And is 4.5 months old already. :(

I read all of your comments but feel like it its been too much time passed to comment on most of them! :o And its only been a couple of days!!!!

AB - I hope you had a lovely birthday & all the best for this weekend. Hope Aliyah feels better soon. I HATE utis. The burning is awful.

Moops - Enjoy the swimming! I would take my kids only that would involve getting a leg wax!!! :laughing:

kittylou - Good luck with TTC no 3 when the time comes.

RB - I hope the sleep clinic is helpful. :fingerscrossed: How cool that MJ had such a good time at preschool?! That's great!

Shana - I think its ok to get the vaccs done now, then they wait another 2 or so months after that to do the next lot......well 2. They only have to get 2 now. Yay!

Do you guys all know about the government rebate for fully immunised children? Basically when they've had all their imms up to 12 months you get $100 & something dollars from the government.

Big :hugs: to the sleep deprived. Hope you get lots of these :sleeping: tonight.

I'm off to get ready for a meal out!! Yay! We're going out to a nice restaurant with friends for tea. My mum is babysitting. I'm SOOOOOO looking forward to it.

Night, night lovelies!

[MrsScatterbrain]

Looks like my thoughts were right - the GP thinks Aliyah has a UTI -

Hope your little girl is feeling better soon, AB - those antibiotics work fast!


I am wondering how long I'm going to have before I have to put her lower . . . when they can pull themselves up? When they can sit up?

We put DS1s up around 9 months when he started crawling and pulling himself up. I haven't even got the side up the whole way on Thomas' yet! :o He doesn't go far!


I will never understand why babies fight sleep when they are clearly tired - I would never turn down an opportunity to sleep!!!

:laughing: Me too! I had an episode like that with Thomas today - he was so tired he was actually laughing as I was settling him! (His big brother does the same thing grrr!)



We are off to Luca's first swimming lesson in a couple of hours! I'm quite scared he's going to hate it actually.

How cute! Good luck!! You'll have to show us some pics! Do you get in the pool with him?



Just on that, now that he is sleeping 12 hours at night I tried moving him to 4 hourly feeds as he was showing signs of not wanting them as often. It worked out fine. He had feeds at 7, 11, 3 and 7 yesterday and slept until 7 this morning as usual. I noticed he just drank more at each feed, which is good.

Do you guys all know about the government rebate for fully immunised children? Basically when they've had all their imms up to 12 months you get $100 & something dollars from the government.


Thomas is doing exactly the same as Caleb! :thumbsup: Since I pushed him out to 4 hours, he has a good solid feed each side, rather than half-heartedly having one side - much more focused, thankfully. Oh - except Thomas has a dreamfeed and a feed overnight as well - he's a skinny minny!

I think the Vax money was more like $200 if I remember correctly? ... I think you get it at 18 months after their Chicken Pox vax. I wonder if it differs from state to state, I can't remember if it is a state or federal govt initiative.


We've had an interesting day here - I can't remember if I have mentioned it, but I've had a bit of PND this time around. I've been on the waiting list for the last couple of weeks at a hospital for treatment, and I finally had my first session today. Thomas and I made the hike out there, only to be told our counsellor was sick, so we had to turn straight around and go back home again! :crying: (DH had even taken the day off to look after DS1). They couldn't even allocate me another person as they like to keep each client with their respective carers. Grrrr! Not to be helped, but we weren't happy, Jan!

Anyway, all was not lost as we all went on a family trip to our local shopping centre to buy DS1 some new shoes - he's such a metro-sexual - he loves shoe shopping! Lol! :laughing: So cute!

[perrywinkle]

Hello ladies WOW thread #4 we can chat can't we.

Have had a fairly busy day today. Met up with some other Bubhubbers today at a play cafe which was nice especially for DS he's going crazy and it's only day 2 of school holidays LOL!!

Then came home and cooked tea early because I was going down to our local Uni to use their library and get some books. I borrowed 9 books LOL!! DH asked me if I read them from cover to cover LOL!! I don't think so! So I'm organised for my next 2 essays. My Physics and Chemistry Exam is now booked in for the 17th June so need to get head down bum up mode pretty soon.

Moops - how did your swimming lesson go?

Nan - a meal out :smiliedance: I have only been out once for a meal since Alice was born without her. Will definately have to do it again soon!

MrS - That would have made me mad. They didn't even give you a phonecall to let you know.

Anyway much quiter day tomorrow might even stay in my Pj's all day LOL!!

Oh THANKS for all your lovely comments about my little one.

[perrywinkle]

Oh yeah big congrats to my best friend in Perth - she had her 3rd little boy today by c-section.

[Moops]

Well swimming was a hit today! We had two submersions, one dunk and one where he sort of swam to me from the Instructor! I'm so proud of him he didn't cry once and he looked so cute in his swimming trunks!

Mrs S that is terrible about your appointment you would think they would have been more considerate and thoughtful especially because of why you were going! Hope u are ok :hugs:

[AliyahBlake]

He keeps saying 'ung-ung' when I put him to bed (which is what he called his dummy), but he will never get them back lol... NEVER!!!

That's it, Sands......be strong!! Although it would be hard if he's actually "asking" for it!!



Question: Xav is a month overdue for her 2nd vacs . . .but she still has this slight cough. Does it matter how long I wait before getting them?
I reckon if it's only a slight cough you should be fine to get them. You don't want her to be too far behind. I can't find my immunisation info, but from memory I think it's a no-no if they have a fever or severe illness. Maybe check the Australian immunisation website - it might have the details on there.



I think the Vax money was more like $200 if I remember correctly? ... I think you get it at 18 months after their Chicken Pox vax. I wonder if it differs from state to state, I can't remember if it is a state or federal govt initiative.


We've had an interesting day here - I can't remember if I have mentioned it, but I've had a bit of PND this time around. I've been on the waiting list for the last couple of weeks at a hospital for treatment, and I finally had my first session today. Thomas and I made the hike out there, only to be told our counsellor was sick, so we had to turn straight around and go back home again! :crying: (DH had even taken the day off to look after DS1). They couldn't even allocate me another person as they like to keep each client with their respective carers. Grrrr! Not to be helped, but we weren't happy, Jan!


Yeah, you get the immunisation money at 18 months once all vaccinations have been completed - I actually thought it was even more than $200, but it was a while ago since we received it for Aliyah so don't quote me. All I remember is the money turning up in her bank account, and wondering who put the money there (I forgot about the immunisation money!!) - I finally figured it out when the statement came!!
:hugs: Mrs S - that's so not fair that they did that.:rolleyes: How hard is it for them to ring you? Especially when you're in a fragile state of mind as it is! I hope you're OK and you get to see your counsellor very soon.




Anyway much quiter day tomorrow might even stay in my Pj's all day LOL!!
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Oh, PW - that sounds devine!!



Well swimming was a hit today! We had two submersions, one dunk and one where he sort of swam to me from the Instructor! I'm so proud of him he didn't cry once and he looked so cute in his swimming trunks!

:yelclap: Yay Luca!! I can't wait to start Blake swimming, but we'll leave it til after winter as it's too cold. Aliyah was 7 months old when she started and it was very cute!!

Well, Aliyah seems a bit better today - she started the antibiotics yesterday afternoon, and I've been dosing her with nurofen so she's pepped up a little. She had a bit of a fever again overnight but is ok at the moment. Blake was awake a couple of times last night. I'm thinking of trying to cut the earlier feed (around midnight/1am) as he only sucks a bit for comfort I think, then drops off to sleep. He doesn't seem to be ravenously hungry at that time. I should do it now so I won't have to worry about it when I go back to work (in 4 weeks :eek: ) I started dropping his feeds to 4 hourly yesterday, and he coped very well with that. I figured now he's having brekkie and lunch that he doesn't need a BF every 3 hours. As Nan said - the feeds seem to be better when they're 4 hourly. Blake's had a lot of routine changes lately - he now has just a bottle at bedtime, which has been a bit of a struggle to get him used to as he likes his bedtime BF and cuddles, so he kicks up a fuss for a few minutes before resigning himself to the fact he's not getting the boob! He's so fussy with his bottles too - if it's not warm, he won't take it! Daylight savings ending has messed with him a bit too - his witching hour is now around 4pm instead of 5, but he doesn't go to bed til 6!! I try and get him in for a quick nap around 3:30 - 4pm to help with that, and seems to slowly be working.

Anyway, enough chatting, I really should get stuck into the house etc while Blake's in bed!

[perrywinkle]

Well we had a shocker of a night last night. Ali hasn't done a #2 in 5 days and I think she's constipated. Last night she was up most of the night in pain and screaming like she's being murdered. So I couldn't stay in my PJ's today because I went out to the shops and got some prune juice and have given her a little bit of water too. Hopefully this afternoon she will do a little surprise for me. Gee never thought I'd be saying that!! So my eyes are being opened with toothpicks today LOL!!

Hope everyone is having a good day.

[sasa]

Hey Everyone,

Moops that sounds so cute, I am so glad he enjoyed it!

Ab Glad Aliyah has improved, hopefully the antibiotics will kick in and she is feeling better in no time.

PW sorry to hear about your rough night, hopefully the Prune Juice will do the trick, dont forget about the cotton wool trick if you see her trying to/struggling with doing something, it really is amazing and instant relief for bubs.

Mrs S, I would hav ebeen annoyed about the appointment thing too... big hugs, you know we are always here when yo uneed a little TLC.

Nan I hope you had a great night out. We were meant to go to a friends for her birthday dinner last night but ended up deciding against it, putting the kids to bed per usual and having a relaxing night in.

DD2 had her immunisations yesterday and was a little champ! not a fuss or sounds with th eoral and first shot, she did cry with the second but the nurse did say that the second one was the one that stings, anyway it didn't last long and before I knew it she was giggling away again.
So she weighs 6.98kg and is 69 cm long! above the 97th percentile! Another tall little girl I would say. Anyway doing really well all round. She is such a happy baby.

Little tip for bubs starting to sit.. a washing basket! I have been putting a blanket in it and propping it up against the couch or something and she can sit up with me not having to worry to much about her falling over. We used to do this with DD1 when we went to the beach but hadn't thought of it again till now.

Well have to decide what I am going to do for dinner, both girls are awake now so I have missed the window for child free dinner preparation, DD1 likes to help anyway and DD@ sits in her highchair and watches as we cook and sing.. maybe a shehards pie...?

hope you are all well!

[perrywinkle]

Oh Sasa, what's the cotton wool trick?? Never heard of it (I think)!!

[Nan]

Howdy everyone.
Mrs S - :hugs: You never said you had PND. Well, if you did I missed it. Sorry to hear about your hard time. What does the treatment involve? That's so cute that Ben loves shoe shopping!!

AB - Has Aliyah been better today?

PW - Good luck with the studies & congrats to your friend......I love newborns......when their not yours!! :laughing: Sandra mentioned the cotton wool trick ages ago. You wet cotton balls with warm water and rub their little butt hole with them and its supposed to help them relax and go. Is that right girls?? :confused:

Moops - Thats great about swimming! Even now Eden has a phobia of water over her head. Rinsing the shampoo off in the bath you'd think I was stabbing her with the carry on some days!! Part of the reason why I'm thinking she can do kindergym this year and do swimming next year instead.

We had a lovely dinner last night. Very expensive, but we never go to places like that, so it was a bit of a one off splurge. Very impressed with the service, so worth it I think. The kids behaved for my parents so that was good. Caleb woke at 10pm, but mum resettled him ok. I think the room he was sleeping in was a bit cold.

Anyway, Shane is on holidays at the moment so I may not get on here every day. Try not to write too much!! :p

Have a good night everyone.

[sasa]

Oh Sasa, what's the cotton wool trick?? Never heard of it (I think)!!

Nan pretty much described it, I wrote a very detailed description of it for sands in the last thread I will see if I can find it.. one sec

[sasa]

Found it! Good luck with it PW, It is so terrible to watch a little one suffer from constipation, (hugs)

((OK Sands this might be getting a bit gross but I will give it a go explaingin it anyway, if you can see he is struggling and trying to push something out here is the trick... Get a cotton wool ball and wet it with pretty warm water - not so hot that it wil burn obviously but as warm as you think they can handle, hold there legs up and very gently massage his -ahem- actual bum with it, then after sometimes only a few seconds, sometimes 30 seconds, as you are massaging it will start to come out. I think it sort of relaxes something, not too sure about the technicalities of it all but it does work, tried and tested, I couldn't beleive it the first time we did it.))

[kaybee]

Hi girls, haven't posted lately, Ava had a cold which she seemed to recover from quite quickly, (must be the antibodies in my breastmilk) but then I caught it and I've been sick as a dog since Saturday.

She also must be going thru a growth spurt as she has started feeding every 1-2 hours. She normally feeds every 3 hours like clockwork, so this has been very tiring!

Hasn't been sleeping well either! Last night she was up every 45min to an hour all night! I've been wondering if it's tummy pain (lots of farts), as her one solids feed has been at 6pm and maybe her little digestive system is still getting used to it. So I'm moving it to morning instead. It hasn't been helping her sleep at all, so no need for it to be in the evening.

[kaybee]

Sorry now for personals...


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Here's some pics of my big girl-



Great pics, so cute!


Well they called & we have an appointment on monday.

Glad you will be seeing someone soon!


**** LOL!! SAME!!! It's so annoying - I fit into a few things, but this has made me realise how many tailored/fitted things I used to wear before!


I'm the same! I didn't realise that either! Been really struggling to find something to wear if I go out too much during the week. At home i can slob around in trakky daks.


Question: Xav is a month overdue for her 2nd vacs . . .but she still has this slight cough. Does it matter how long I wait before getting them?

Ava is overdue for hers too, I'm hoping to get hem done this week.


We've had an interesting day here - I can't remember if I have mentioned it, but I've had a bit of PND this time around.

:hugs: Mrs S, I can't believe they stuffed you around.


Well swimming was a hit today!

Wow! Sounds like he had a lot of fun! Will wait till summer here and get Ava started!

Wow Sasa have never heard of the cotton wool trick! will have to give it a go!

[MrsScatterbrain]

I started dropping his feeds to 4 hourly yesterday, and he coped very well with that. I figured now he's having brekkie and lunch that he doesn't need a BF every 3 hours. As Nan said - the feeds seem to be better when they're 4 hourly. [/COLOR]

Its so much better, feeding 4 hourly, isn't it? Its lovely to have the extra time. Glad Aliyah is on the road to recovery. :thumbsup: Gee, she's had a rough trot with illness lately, hasn't she? Hopefully this is the last of it!



Little tip for bubs starting to sit.. a washing basket! I have been putting a blanket in it and propping it up against the couch or something

What a cute idea! Great photo opportunity too!


You wet cotton balls with warm water and rub their little butt hole with them and its supposed to help them relax and go. Is that right girls?? :confused:

We had a lovely dinner last night. Very expensive, but we never go to places like that, so it was a bit of a one off splurge.

:eek::laughing: OMG! That is hysterical! I'll keep it in mind if ever Thomas needs it!

Glad you had a good night out - you enjoy it so much more after having kids, don't you? We've only had dinner out once since Ben was born, and the service wasn't crash hot - I wish we'd splurged a bit now!


Hi girls, haven't posted lately, Ava had a cold which she seemed to recover from quite quickly, (must be the antibodies in my breastmilk) but then I caught it and I've been sick as a dog since Saturday.

:hugs: Kaybee - what a rough trot. It doesn't rain, it pours, doesn't it? Hope things improve soon.


Thanks for your support everyone - I woke up feeling a bit more positive about the whole thing this morning (until Thomas started screaming the house down, lol!). Just one week until my next appointment, so I hope she's back at work by then.

Nan - in my case, treatment involves counselling for the time being, and if the situation gets worse, medication. (Hoping not to have to go down that road - I feel like it would 'change my mind' - but I think that's a common misconception. If it comes down to the boy's welfare, I'll take them).

Poor old Thomas has been teething today - his poor little cheeks were so red, they're chapped and I had to attack them with the pawpaw cream. I took him for a long walk in the pram so he could at least have some quiet time, as he was really struggling to settle. I wonder when the teeth actually come through?

:hugs: For the sick little ones (and Mums!)

[perrywinkle]

Found it! Good luck with it PW, It is so terrible to watch a little one suffer from constipation, (hugs)

((OK Sands this might be getting a bit gross but I will give it a go explaingin it anyway, if you can see he is struggling and trying to push something out here is the trick... Get a cotton wool ball and wet it with pretty warm water - not so hot that it wil burn obviously but as warm as you think they can handle, hold there legs up and very gently massage his -ahem- actual bum with it, then after sometimes only a few seconds, sometimes 30 seconds, as you are massaging it will start to come out. I think it sort of relaxes something, not too sure about the technicalities of it all but it does work, tried and tested, I couldn't beleive it the first time we did it.))


OK thanks for that :thumbsup: Still no #2's today so we will be on day 6 tomorrow. Eek!!

[Lozie]

Hi gals
No personals today have a packed day in front of me, Balin is sick poor little mite and the last few weeks he had discovered how to squeal and stuff but now he's all raspy so when he tries he sounds funny lol i shouldnt laugh poor bubba is probably in pain but he seem to like his new voice still wont shut up,
That basket thing Sasa we do that, Dh discovered it he rekons lol have some great pics of it i might post some soon as i have the time like that ever happens, Oh and had convinced myself of pregnancy again lol but ahh BFN thank god i cant believe how careful we are and still getting scares gosh i wish i could do something a semi permanent to keep it at bay any ideas? we want more but not yet gosh they are all too close imo but cant change it now.
My Sil had her baby not last friday the one before i meant to tell ya's but i always get side tracked and dont do what i want lol. ANyhoo she had a little boy he was 3 weeks early but still weighted a healthy 7 pound and he's very cute i think anyway still kinda looks squished and stuff but still cute

Rb I dunno if you have my actual hotmail address? I think the one in my profile is old and i got a new one cause heaps of ppl i didnt know kept adding me and i had no idea who half of the were let me know if you have the right one tho i might have given it to you, :confused: gosh i dunno.

Well must be off have to visit ppl before going to the Doc's for Balin to have his Vax and see why his voice is funny,
Take care will try to get back tomorrow :wave:

[sandralee]

Hi girls!!! No time for personals but I have read everything and I am up to date LOL. Been working on getting Noah to settle himself to sleep again - he hasn't done that since before his vax reaction which is a bummer!!! Patted his bum while he was on his side, but got sick of doing that even hough it mostly doesn't take long... sooo have been googling to lear new ways. Never had to think about it before as I would put him to bed drowsy and let him do the rest. Just did an impulse buy, a dvd called the sleepeasy solution so will see what that has to say. He has now been over 3days without his dummy and we noticed better sleep immediately - I was prepared for all hell to break loose LOL! He is still waking, but it is mostly 2-3hrly rather than every coupleof minutes hehe. Sometimes just stand at the door and don't need to do anything.. sometimes I put my hand on his chest & he instantly nods back off.. and other times I give him literally a couple of pats on whatever part of his bum I can reach. So not bad! He has been going to bed earlier, around 6pm as we run out of time for a catnap around 5pm with the times he is sleeping now. (which means he is waking earlier!!! So will have to rectify that ASAP) Giving him a couple of feeds through the night as a last resort if a few hours have passed, but he barely touches them.. so will just stick to one around the 1-2am mark, and look at cutting that out down the track - LOL.. my NEXT mission! I let him cry in his cot for a few mins yesterday to see wat happened (I stayed in there though but he got really p@ssed with me) so now when it is nap time he starts squirming and getting upset! Hope I haven't gone backwards!! If I can't sette him, I pick him up and give him a quick cuddle then put him down again...but he protests a LOT! Just getting sick of playing a part in getting him to sleep, as I am sure this contributes to his night wakingas well. Hope we find something that works soon cos I feel like he is now traumatised! He seems fine if I put him into his cot while I put away his washing, but I guess the blind is up then too and it isn't so dark. Dunno! Again! I am clueless!
With the butt massage, I sometimes used an unscented sorbolene cream on a warm wet cotton ball, as it was easier and smoother to give it a little massage. (lucky I never slipped lol!!:D but you have to tread carefully down there!!)
Trying hard to stretch out Noah's feeds to get him to 4hours, but what do you do if they only drink small ammts each time, no matter how long you leave it/he also seems to need extra sustenance after his play times cos he goes nuts and gets a good workout every time.. I rarely see that baby still!
Our jolly jumper and stand arrived so we set it up yest - he looks cute in it, figuring it all out. Not leaving him in there for too long though as it apparently can damage their feet. Plus e is still getting used to it so doesn't go psycho yet. Osteopath appt tomorrow, should be interesting. Going to ask about his clicky shoulders, could be from being born, or may be a normal 'growing baby' thing??
My house is a mess this morning..... not dirty, just messy, and have lots of washing to hang out!
We used to put Andy in a washingbasket and he loved it! But I forgot about it til Sasa mentioned it. Might do that while I peg out the washing as we have quite a few of them floating around.
Gosh girls,
can't wait to catch up but haven't checkd the thread for dates etc. But count me in for as long as Noah is happy in his pram LOL..hmmm.. he loves looking around though.
He has just woken from a 'double sleep' so had better go - I gave him a pat to resettle him.. but I am SO over doing that!! Hearing him scream is horrible though.. lol.. I think I traumtised mySELF! I don't mind listening to grizzling, but screaming and hearing his husky little cry gets to me.
Lots of love
Hope to be back later
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[MrsScatterbrain]

I have been tempted! Last night Thomas was very windy (on top of teething!) after his dreamfeed, so I let him have his dummy to calm him down and let nature take its course (iykwim!). (Normally I don't let him have his dummy overnight so there's no dummy nightmares!). Anyway - he slept through!!! :sleeping: No re-settling, no feeds - just sleeping! :eek: Oh my gosh, I think that's the second time in his whole life! (Mind you, I'm happy to do the feeding while he needs it, but who wouldn't rather sleep?!) I'm so tempted to give him the dummy again tonight, but I'm going to be STRONG! ;) (I hope!)



Still no #2's today so we will be on day 6 tomorrow. Eek!!

PW - I can't even imagine - your poor thing! Thomas goes at nearly every feed! :laughing:

Sands - I know the feeling! Thomas screams as soon as I pick him up to settle him! He knows whats coming and isn't happy! Don't worry - I am clueless, too! :confused:

[AliyahBlake]

:hugs: to everyone who is sick at the moment, or looking after sick kids. Aliyah is still not well - although it seems as though the antibiotics are working as her fever is down. She now has a sore throat and cough as well as the UTI! She is enjoying being allowed to sit on the lounge in front of the TV all day, but is sad she can't go to preschool.
The preparations are underway for Blake's christening on Saturday. I am pretty busy organising so probably won't be here much or at all until after the weekend. I've not slept much due to Aliyah being sick and feeding Blake during the night so it'll be interesting to see how I hold up! I'm getting the multivitamins into me, so hopefully that'll help. We're looking forward to it, as Aliyah's christening was fun, so Blake's should be too with all our family and friends around.

Anyway, I hope you all have a good weekend. happybirthday for Saturday Kaybee!!

[sandralee]

I feel depressed! My husband gets to go away and stay in a beautiful balinese style resort on the beach at Proserpine.. while I get to stay at hme and change nappies etc around the clock! We haven't had a holiday in a while and I am starting to feel the effects I think - don't know whether to be upset or angry. Maybe I will go on the next trip away or something. Even though we live in the same house, we hardly get any time together which is kinda poxy.. and me feeling like a ferral 85 yr old sleep deprived lady isn't helping things either lol!xxxx
just venting... ignore this.... had to get it out!

[tally]

Thought I'd pop in and say hi, I'm trying to keep up with everyone but not doing a very good job of it, I am thinking of you all atm..

Things are very tough here atm.. and I'm on the verge of breaking down in a heap if I dont get a break shortly.. I havent had an hours straight sleep for quite awhile now, so am really tettering on the edge. I broke down this arvo and am trying the Brauers Calming stuff to see if it helps him settle. When I really think about it, I havent slept probably more than 2hrs straight since 3wks before Rylans birth due to all the problems we had... so its nearly 6mths now.

I'm peeved with my DH, I desperately need a break thats not revolved around a 1000km trip in relation to custody issues with my ex, or a trip to Melbourne because of his work.. (afl football), hes been promising me a trip to an Island Resort or the likes for years and this year I actually thought I was going to get it, but NOOOOOO we're going to frikken Melb again... and it means being with a group of people that drink and party hard... like I need that like a hole in the head atm.... I think with the no sleep I'm just so tired and emotional its wearing me down.

Gotta go before I bring everyone else down...

[tally]

whoops double post.. see how sad I am lol.

[MrsScatterbrain]

Tally - here's me raving on about Mother & Baby Units again (tell me to shut up if you feel!), but one of their means of admission is for 'Maternal Exhaustion'. I'm not sure how long they let you stay, but you and your bubs can stay and have a break, so you get a chance to catch your breath. The wonderful nurses there settle your baby at night so you can sleep, and of course all meals are provided. (I'm making it sound like a hotel!).

:hugs: to you, it sounds like you're really struggling. I hope there's a light at the end of the tunnel soon.

[sandralee]

Hey Mrs S - you make it sound fantastic!!! Sign me up already!! I would worry too much about how Noah would feel being in a strange place though, to actually enjoy it, with different people who could possibly make him freak out LOL. I would definitely do it if all else fails though, no question!!
Tally I hear ya with the no sleep thing - I call a good night getting up approx 2hourly, and that has only come about this week since abolishing his dummies for good. Best thing I have ever done with him to date. He has been through so many changes in the last week though, I have put him through baby boot camp! Shifted him for night sleeps into his nursery, so all his sleeps are in there now... and I am gradually weaning him from the night time routine he had in our room, and making the transition... I have been patting him to sleep for the past couple of wks, which doesn't take long but feels like an eternity cos I have better things to do.. so now I am patting for a bit if I have to but leaving the room while he is drowsy & hope for the best...I no longer run in when he wakes, and teaching him patience - so that when he wakes in the night he doesn't expect me to just be there in a second like I could while he was next to our bed... and stretching out most of his feeds to 3-4hourly after months of 'snacking' - I have made so many allowances in that dept cos apparently reflux babies feel less comfortable with a full tummy, so need smaller feeds more frequently....also letting him grizzle ( not scream) for a while through the night instead of running in to resettle him, and a couple of times so far hehas put himself back to sleep. I am the biggest softie ever, but after 20wks of sleep deprivation something has to give! I am seeing if all these things lead to him sleeping better at night, otherwise it will be Riverton for us. Apparently you have to get them in before 6mths preferably, or the whole process takes longer. So I have pulled out the big guns and making gradual changes every couple of days.. well kind of gradual... it is ALL taking way too long if you ask me!:D You don't know how many times I have gone to squirt liquid soap on my toothbrush instead of toothpaste... how many times I have thought that I have put a bottle in the microwave, heated 'it' up, meanwhile Noah's cries are getting louder.. only to find that I hadn't even put the bottle in! Or I have walked back into the room after 'heating up a bottle' and then next thing I know I am madly searching for the bottle that I thought I put down somewhere - even getting out the torch to find it - only to find that the bottle didn't exist lol!! The 3 formula dispensers that we own were completely full lol! And I could have sworn on mylife that I had a bottle in my hand. I honestly don't know how I function during the day, let alone drive a car with an innocent little baby as my passenger. Must be on auto pilot. so yeah, you aren't alone, and for peace of mind I will be booking into riverton if things don't get (heaps) better soon. Mum rang tonight and said that one of her friends was in the same boat as me & booked in for a 5night stay - after 3 nights with wonderful caring staff he baby was sleeping through for 12 hours. And still does. Sleep schools must vary a lot, cos I have heard some meanie stories and some great ones. Even being taken away from housework for a few days would be wonderful lol.. bring on the cooked meals and help getting my baby to sleep!
Gosh what a rant! Big cuddles to you Tally, you seem to have a lot of extra stresses ON TOP of a newborn - do what feels right for you, if Melb doesn't appeal to you, don't go if that's an option.. woud be hard being around party animals constantly when you have a newborn to try and settle etc.
And ex husbands can be right butt-munchers - I have had my fair share of grief with mine, he is a worm. Never helped raise Andrew in any way and was always scheming ways to pay as little child support as possible... meanwhile he takes his family on regular overseas holidays. lives on beautiful acreage.. he and his wife work full time.. he has inherited a fortune since his father passed away.. they own properties and blueberry farms....AND getting extra work offshore! Yet he got away with paying $21 a month lol! WTF?! yada yada :ecomcity:
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[shymmer]

:hugs:Tally, you certainly need a break! If your resort holiday is off the cards, will Dh spring for a nanny/babysitter a couple days a week so you can simply sleep while they are there? Or pay a relative you trust to look after bubs while you rest? It is really important you get some more sleep so you can function. Have you told your Dh how important it is that you have a break?

Gosh Sands . . . you have had some serious bottle halucinations!! I was waiting for the one where you walk into the bedroom with bottle in hand - only to realise is was a wine bottle for you, not Noah! Hahaha!

But seriously, you ladies are doing so well. I know how it feels to get hardly any sleep and be tipping over the edge. It's very upsetting.

Xav got her vac's today. She was so brave, not many tears at all. But even the lady commented on her stubborn and cluey nature when she refused to swallow the rotavirus liquid! She lay there with it in her mouth for several seconds, then very calmly spat it all out!
Hopefully our night wont be too bad. And I forgot to give her the vit C booster, damn it. Can I do it tonight or tomorrow?
Oh and is it just thier poo that is contageous with the Rotavirus, or saliva as well? A work colleague of Dh's caught it from their baby's vac's and he was sick as a dog for a week with it!

And guess what ladies . . . I have organised the next three nights dinners! I know you have all been domestic godesses and have all that under control, but I really struggle to get a meal planned let alone buy the ingredients and then cook it! But did you know at 1am they show quick meal recipies on TV during the ads? Uhuh :yes:. Life saver for women like me!! They must know there are new mums watchign that are sick of dh cooking steak and mash every night!! Anyway, so I got inspired and took Xav grocery shopping! So proud of myself!!

[perrywinkle]

Hi Everyone,

:hugs: Tally have sent you an email!!

We had dramas this morning. The kids were fine it was my DH. So 5am my mobile rings and I always panic because it could only be DH ringing at that time of the day and he has a fast imported car and I always think he's had a crash or something like that BUT this morning he rang out of fuel :yes: The wolly run out for fuel. So I had to put both kids in the car at 5am and go and fetch him to take the bugger to the fuel station. Lucky he was only 10mins away!!! It has been a very long day trying to entertain 2 kids and I just couldn't be bothered either LOL!!

So I'm off to bed very shortly and I'm goning to sleep like a log!

[shymmer]

PW- thank goodness it was just a fuel issue!

Well, I hardly slept a wink last night . . . infact I don't think I even slept that much :rolleyes:. Xav was fine, very restless, woke a few times but I didn't have to get her up or anything . . . but for some reason I could not get to sleep. I'm not sure if I was worried about her having had her vaccines or what. She didn't react last night at all except a bit of a cry before bed.
She gave me a little scare this morning however: she woke at 7.30am and was rustling around then she starts this weird noise, so I peer in and she is kind of hiccuping but with no hiccup noise if that makes sense, just this jerk and swallowing action. She was grimacing so I know she didn't like it. Anyway I though she might have been trying to vomit so I pick her up and face her down so it can come out, but nothing did. I gave her a cuddle and she kept doing it - jerk, swallow, grimmace. Then I wondered if she was convulsing! I thought a convulsion would be more violent . . but I didn't know what else to think. Anyway, I took into the nursery and it kept going - I was starting to freak out . . . but thankfully it stopped after a few more times. I still don't know what it was. Not hiccups anyway.
So now I'm paranoid. No point me going back to bed - I wont sleep thinking she might start doing it again.
Damn those Vac's. Seems rediculous that we would purposely make them sick.

She had some diarreah overnight, but fell asleep right after so I didn't change her so as not to wake her up. Do you change bubs if they dirty overnight but keep sleeping- even if it means waking them? I really wanted to change her! It stank like diarreah (as apposed to normal poop) and I was worried it would burn her bottom, but thankfully it didn't.

[tally]

Thanks everyone, I actually came in to delete it all.. :o I'm so over everyone taking advantage of me, you know Mandy is the dependable one who doesnt need any help.. she'll do everything for others but no bugger bothers about her. I've given up saying anything because they look at me like I'm stupid and dont believe me..

Shana sounds familiar, when Rylan has his reactions to the vac's it sounded similar but he actually stopped breathing for a little while. Very scary.. the 2nd lot he only a mildish reaction too. Its really hard to sleep after witnessing that

I'm seriously thinking about bottle feeding, this bf is taking too much out of me, I cant believe the diff in having a baby at 34 to 37yrs. the 3yrs has made a huge diff in stamina lol.

[perrywinkle]

We have done a poo!!!!!!!!!! 8 days later :yelclap::smiliedance:

I've never been so excited to change a poo. Mind you I had to use 4 wips so it was pretty big.

And she only woke once last night so hopefully we will be back to normal now.

[Kittylou]

I haven't actually had a chance to read anything yet so will be back a bit later but just need to ask a quick question...

What was the solution to the little knots of hair on the back of the head?? Sophie has developed a couple of dread locks back there!!!!

[perrywinkle]

Yeah Alice had 3 of those so I just cut them off. tried brushing them out and using detangler but it didn't work.

[Rainbowbrite]

Hey ladies, I haven't read anything, so will be back later for personals......Just wanted to let you all know, I got a message from Kizmet this morning.........Robbie was admitted to hospital yesterday, they now think its whooping cough. Waiting on test results. He's not feeding at all, so they are very worried about him.

Will update when I know more.

[MrsScatterbrain]

RB - Oh no, what terrible news - :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: Lots of these for Robbie and Kiz.

Sands - sounds like you're definitely under control! Just a hint - if you even think you may want to get in - you may need to get your forms in early, as there can be waiting lists. :no: We had to wait 8 weeks! If you sign-up, then don't need it, you can always decline your spot! Enough from Mrs. Obsessed-With-Sleep-School! Lol about your bottle hallucinations!! I have been known to try and do my handwashing in listerine instead of wool wash!

Shana - I think its just the poo that is contagious, but don't quote me on that! Just make sure you wash your hands lots and definitely before eating. I did read somewhere there was only risk for the first dose though.

Xav's hiccups sound a little bit like reflux - that's what Thomas does when he's 'refluxy' - sort of opening his mouth like a fish and gulping. They are actually dry-vomiting, then trying to swallow it again - yuck - poor bubs. Thankfully it doesn't last long.

Tally - don't delete your post! We're here for you! And one of us might have an idea after reading your post that could change things for you.

PW - congrats on the poo!! What a relief for everyone! Did you use the cotton wool?

Kittylou - I have a solution - give some of Sophies hair to Thomas! He's completely bald there! :laughing: Seriously though, did you try some leave-in conditioner? That works for me!

[kaybee]

Oh no poor little Robbie! :hugs::hugs: for Kiz and her family!!

Tally and Sands - I was coming on here to have a big sook about how sh!t things are going at the moment, and now thinking maybe it could be worse!

Bub is still wanting to feed every 1-2 hours, I can't shake this cold, I wake every morning with an aching neck and shoulders and severe headache. She is just grizzling and crying all the time, wont sleep. I am really at my wits end! Every time she wakes up from a nap (that's only been 15 minutes long) I just burst into tears. Getting her to go down for the nap takes 15-20 minutes of rocking and patting she fights it the whole time and eventually just drops. So today I am still in my pj's as inbetween feeding, trying to get her to sleep and trying to stop the crying and just I manage to stuff a quick bit of food in my mouth and that's it. The house looks like a tip aggrhh!!!! I'm typing this while ignoring her grizzling on her play mat.

I'm thinking that intrdoucing solids might be part of the problem, as she keeps waking up during the night screaming due to wind pain?? So I'm stopping it tomorrow and seeing what happens. Couldn't be any worse.

I posted in the General Helth Issues section, that I've found a lump under one of her nipples - does anyone know if this is normal or should I take her to the doc?

AB - thanks for b'day wishes!
Tally - don't go to Melbourne
Sands - Ir eally admire your success with the dummy! I don't think I have the strength to do it myself, even though i really want to. Besides DH would not support me on it, he hates her putting her fingers in her mouth (what she does when she doesn't have a dummy) and he wont put up with the crying while she gets used to not having it.

[sandralee]

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What was the solution to the little knots of hair on the back of the head?? Sophie has developed a couple of dread locks back there!!!!

I tried so many things with Noah's hair and one day thought of smoothing some of his sleepytime massage oil on his hair after a bath.. not HEAPs but just enough to smooth over the back - he hasn't had a knot since!! So it works lol!!

SO SAD ABOUT ROBBIE!!!!! My thoughts are with you guys! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Had a **** night last night, and as usual it is hard to tell why! Maybe he could have picked up on my vibes with Steve - he would sleep approx 2hrs, then wake every 10mins for half hour.. then same again until dawn.. and that was AFTER he had me settling him heaps before I went to bed at 10pm. Well I THINK he slept for 2hr lots, I am not so sure about anything anymore, and so sick of saying how sleep deprived I am LOL! Could be reflux. Could be teething. Could be wonderweek lol. Could be wind. Could be the 5mth horrors that I keep reading about, where even the little angel babies who have slept through the night, suddenly don't. Might have to get his reflux assessed by a paed gastroenterologist.. to see whats going on in there!
Going to bed, Noah was shocking a hour after I put him to bed.. woke up screaming the house down, made my blood curdle, screamed and arching his back for half hour with nothing consoling him..then every ten mins for a while there. I would even consider putting him in bed with me for the night if he keeps going like this tonight. But only for one night so it didn't become anOTHER bad habit lol!!! I probably wouldn't sleep well though, cos I'd be worried about him rolling out of bed.. or I am so tired that it probably wouldn't be too safe for him.
Love and hugs to all of you.
I am on a mission to have a calm baby who sleeps longer than 2hours. He had a session with the osteopath today, which was so gentle, like a massage - they say that it will either really relax them afterfwards OR mke them unsettled for up to 48hrs...
I have seriously reached a point of not being able to think straight at all, I can't remember things. I just don't have a clue about anything!
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[melbryan]

*'Now trying here thinking of what I just read'*

Hugs to Kiz hope Robbie is OK and they can monitor and keep an eye on him in Hospiy I just thought I hadn't heard from her for a while.

Tally sorry to hear all is not well for you maybe starting to say no to people is a good start. I have that problem too. It is very exhausting I know how you are feeling. I have a booked a scrapbook retreat for the long weekend in June DH is not keen on me going but I said I don't care deal with it I never ever get to have a break so for Mother's day you can pay for it for me. ( $300) He has reluctantly agreed.

Who was talking about knots in hair, we have it too and I just pull them out poor Ashton I am just used to pulling my own out.

PW yay for Poo it is such a relief.

Well not much happening here, DH put Ashton down bout 10mins ago he has been beautiful today two big sleeps ( I have bumped up all bottles to max. capacity and he has 1 meal in the evenings). He will sleep until about 11.30 last bottle for the night and then will ake around 6am. I will start to feed him brekky at 6mths. He is so adorable but feel that I never have enough time for him, I don't think I have fed a bottle to him since he was breast fed 6 weeks old he nearly holds it himself and drinks the whole thing then he squeals until I go into his cot and burp him then he plays for a little while and then back to bed.
Back to work in one week, 3 kids in FDC 3 days a week and then I have to keep the house spotless as we are selling our house ATM.
Who's car ran out of petrol I have done that lots of times but now with kids I am a little more careful.
Might go and do some scrapbooking, DH is watching the footy- talk soon,
Mel x

[MrsScatterbrain]

I found you guys on Facebook! :smiliedance: Yay! I am the lady with the blue hat and a very young DS1!

Any news of Robbie?



Bub is still wanting to feed every 1-2 hours, I can't shake this cold, I wake every morning with an aching neck and shoulders and severe headache.

:hugs: Kaybee. I've come down with DS1's cold this morning, so I know how you feel. Its like being a zombie isn't it? ;) (Although at least zombies get to sleep!)


Might have to get his reflux assessed by a paed gastroenterologist.. to see whats going on in there!

That's such a good idea - two of my friends had non-sleepers, and found out at one year that they had gastric problems. They wished they'd found out a bit earlier so they could have had some sleep! (Minor understatement! Lol!)

I was thinking of you this morning while I was doing it - to save my back, I sit or lie on the floor and jiggle Thomas' mattress - its so much better than leaning over his cot! You can even have a book or mag on the floor to read! (Your head torch will come in very handy for this!) This might reduce your leaning-over-the-cot time!



Back to work in one week, 3 kids in FDC 3 days a week and then I have to keep the house spotless as we are selling our house ATM.

Good luck with work, Mel!

Have a great weekend everyone! I really should be doing some housework!! :o

[sandralee]

LOL Mrs S!! I used to be ableto jiggle Noah's mattress if I really had to (the portable cot).. but find it hard to do with his big old boori cot, which is piled to the hilt with phone books/bricks etc.
Earliest appt I could make with our GP is weds, where I will get a referral. He has all the symptoms but no obvious relief from 5mg of losec each day.. which, in my sleep deprived doughey state, I start thinking that he doesn't have reflux. Joined their support group this morning, I can understandow it wreaks havoc on families! I know babies are hard work, but so much more comes with reflux babies - EVERYTHING is affected.. they are jumpy and hypersensitive cos they don't sleep for long, restless, don't feed properly, are more demanding, squirm around a lot cos they are in pain, can't feed a lot of them just before bed, they get umcomfortable with full tummies & any pressure on their tummies, you can't just put them flat on a playmat, or you have to watch them when you put them down cos they move from where you had them elevated, scream when you lay them down to change them (even if elevated for Noah), and when they are in pain nothing can console them, reflux is worse in the heat or when they go through any changes or stress for some reason & also after vaccinations... the list goes on! WOrst thing is you have to find your way blindly, by trying everything to see what works and what doesn't with medication and feeding etc.. some babies get more relief by snacking and others feed better after 3hours. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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[tally]

RB can you send Kiz and Robbie my love and that I'm thinking of them.. it must be very terrifying for them all...

Things are no better here, we've worked out he has max of 40min sleep cycles day and night when the pain finally wakes him up. I think we need a referral to someone to get him checked out properly you can hear and feel his poor little gut its awful... so I'm assuming its the reflux, the poor little mite is trying to be happy but even cuddles wont take the pain away.

Dh actually took him last night and I got my first decent sleep in months, I felt awful this morning as a result though.

Gotta go hes on my lap and is screaming again.

thank you everyone, this is really tough on all of us...

[perrywinkle]

I found you guys on Facebook! :smiliedance: Yay! I am the lady with the blue hat and a very young DS1!

COOL my surname is the same as the first part of my BH name if you want to add me

Kiz :hugs::hugs::hugs: to you and Robbie. I hope things improve soon..

Tally - yes might be an idea to see some. They might even do an ultrasound on him just to check him out on the insides!! Thankfully DH took him for a while so you could rest otherwise you'll go mad.

Sands - can your DH take Noah for a little while to give you a break too?


Well I think we have finally started to teethe. She has started to have little outbursts of crys like she gets hit with pain then stops. She's quite easy to settle and everything is going into her mouth and being chomped big time. No sign of any teeth yet but they could be starting to make a move. Oh and the clamping of her gums on my nipple is very painful.

Going to pick up a Hills Swing set tomorrow for DS. He's so excited!! It has 4 attachments and a slide attachment on the side.

Anyway I hope you ladies have a good night I'm sending some sleep dust to those who don't sleep!!!

AB - hope your having a lovely weekend. Don't forget to post some pics.
:wave:

[sandralee]

RB can you send Kiz and Robbie my love and that I'm thinking of them.. it must be very terrifying for them all...

Things are no better here, we've worked out he has max of 40min sleep cycles day and night when the pain finally wakes him up. I think we need a referral to someone to get him checked out properly you can hear and feel his poor little gut its awful... so I'm assuming its the reflux, the poor little mite is trying to be happy but even cuddles wont take the pain away.

Dh actually took him last night and I got my first decent sleep in months, I felt awful this morning as a result though.

Gotta go hes on my lap and is screaming again.

thank you everyone, this is really tough on all of us...


Hey Tally, I have done so much research on reflux it's not funny! There is so much involved and it feels like your whole world is upside down. Babies can be in a great mood when distracted during the day, then when left alone they finally react to the discomfort they feel cos they have nothing else to focus on. If you look at www.reflux.org.au (http://www.reflux.org.au) it has lots of info - if he isn't a spewy baby (Noah isn't) it could be silent reflux, where their stomach contents only travel half way up the oesophagus but SIT there. It is also cyclic, so some days/weeks it can appear that they are either better or they don't have it..:confused: It is worse apparently with any changes in their lives, or teething, crawling, after vaccinations etc.. basically anything that is different in their lives or stressful. (so fasten your seatbelt :D) I have had what feels like morning sickness for over 4mths now & I think it is from not sleeping. If Ry is very alert/sensitive to noise/easily overstimulated/fussy feeder or snacker/is uncomfortable or unsettled approx an hr after he has eaten/arches his back a lot/is uncomfy being held sometimes after feeds or when he has a full tummy, yet uncomfy when you lay him down/does a lot of wet burps/swallows a lot - babies do this when they swallow vomit or whatever it is that travels up their oesophagus/has a LOT of hiccups/makes snuffly darth vader sounds in his chest sometimes, after fluids usually or medicine etc/ unsettled a lot/gags himself a lot with his fingers, more than other babies - they are chasing the pain in their throats and chest etc/drools excessively... there is a good chance that it is reflux. A paed would start you on zantac or losec quite possibly, but to find the right dose & course of action takes a lot of experimenting!! Losec gets a better rap than Zantac, as a lot of people haven't found too much relief with it and it TASTES HORRID! Noah has been on 5mg of crushed losec tablet for 2mths but I haven't noticed a big enough improvement.. so booked into gp on weds. I am also going to start giving his meds late arvo as he is laying down more at night and is less distracted from any discomfort, rather than in the morning like I have been doing. I paid 2x $100 visits to paed initially and he wasn't very helpful.. so I am getting a referral to a pead gastrolenterologist to do some non invasive tests, and go straight to someone who specialises in that area.
I have Noah in toddler nappies so they aren't as tigt around his waist. Also can't put him in shorts or jeans or anything with a waistband which is a pain in the bum.. so basically you have to keep any kind of pressure off their tummies.
If he does have it. it costs $30 for a yr membership to constant reflux support if you need it - it has a massive affect on your life, wellbeing, family unit, social life & can start to do your head in unless you are aware of what's happening. Like your child, you just feel constantly on edge. After 5 mths of chaos I have reached a point where I am desperate for some sleep (on a few good nights, I have been able to string 2hrs together... in 5 MTHS lol!) and some relaxing times. The last 5mths have felt like one long-*ss (long-@ss) day to me & I seriously need to recharge.
I sincerely hope that you find some answers soon, and that you don't have to go down the reflux rd. All the best, & sorry for droning on lol. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Had an ewey night while Steve was away, lots of nursery runs.. and now finding it hard to sleep when I go to bed these days!
How are you going with Xav Shana? Getting any more sleep? xx

[KaM]

Just thought I would duck in and let you guys know that Kizmet is now home with Robbie . he doesn't have whooping cough thankfully. .am sure she will be on when she can to fill you all in!

[tally]

Thanks Sandralee, hes been on 10mg of Losec a day since he was 8ish weeks old... and its my second silent refluxer so am pretty informed/experienced (not sure if you can ever be experienced lol) on the whole thing.. lol... its just been so bad in the last few weeks its not funny..

I've also started using Mylanta to give his little tummy a bit more of a coating but dont want to use too much without my gp's advice.. I had enough issues going onto Losec as it was.

I tend to keep most of our issues to myself so you may not have known..

Lordy Toddler nappies, Rylan must be tiny lol.. I cant even use Crawler nappies yet as the tabs completely cross over so they've got nothing to stick to and just fall off.. :D Though I mainly use mcn's anways... most mediums in them are still huge lol.

His weights also dropping back, hes still gaining ok.. but nowhere near where he was so we definately need to get him checked properly before that also becomes an issue, though I'm only little so he could just take after me.

I have a Balla Balla which is like a Jolly Jumper except with a seat, I never really liked it with the other kids but I tried it with Ry today and he loved it, he was quite happy to swing around for a few minutes...I think it takes a lot of weight off and has him bolt upright without any pressure on his tumm...

Everything has just gotten on top of me lately, My 3yr old has also just been assessed to having a slight hearing loss, and my mum is nearly deaf so thats been pretty stressful, and now wondering if he'll head down the same road she has... so also been running around with speechies and trying to get on the right track before he starts kindy later this year.

Night all..

oh and thank you for letting us now Robbie hasnt got whooping cough.. hope hes on the mend soon.

[Nan]

Hi gals. Haven't been on here for a few days as I had a car accident on Thursday morning. Car is a total write off. Will post details soon. Just do some personals then I'll come back tomorrow arvo and fill you all in. I had the kids with me at the time & we're all ok.....thank God.

Maybe I will go on the next trip away or something. Even though we live in the same house, we hardly get any time together which is kinda poxy..
That's a great idea, Sands. Ikwym about no time together. We feel like we're just co-habitaiting atm too.

Gotta go before I bring everyone else down...
Oh hun. Don't be silly! That's what we're here for. :hugs: I can't remember who suggested it, but can you just protest and not go to Melbourne or is anything better than nothing?

So I have pulled out the big guns and making gradual changes every couple of days.. well kind of gradual... it is ALL taking way too long if you ask me!
Sleep schools must vary a lot, cos I have heard some meanie stories and some great ones.
Don't forget he's got 5 months of habits to undo. It might take a while. Lots of changes, but they all sound great. Just remember if sleep school do something you're against......try to let them! The inconsistency will confuse Noah even more and if it works, then great!! If it doesn't you can always try something else you are more comfy with after.

And guess what ladies . . . I have organised the next three nights dinners! I know you have all been domestic godesses and have all that under control, but I really struggle to get a meal planned let alone buy the ingredients and then cook it!
:laughing: Sorry. Had to laugh!! Domestic godess!!!!! In my dreams. Well done on the meal planning. It IS a good achievement.

Do you change bubs if they dirty overnight but keep sleeping- even if it means waking them?
The only reason I'd have to say no to this is because I've never slept in the same room as my kids from day one, so I wouldn't even know if they HAD pooed!! :o When I was getting up to them I would change them as they used to poop with every nappy!

.....Mandy is the dependable one who doesnt need any help.. she'll do everything for others but no bugger bothers about her.

I'm seriously thinking about bottle feeding, this bf is taking too much out of me, I cant believe the diff in having a baby at 34 to 37yrs. the 3yrs has made a huge diff in stamina lol.
Oh hun! I know how you feel. I'm the responsible one in my close circle too. The only difference is that people actually listen when I cry for help because they get that it must be something really bad. I feel your pain. My mum had my brothers at 33 and 37 and she said the exact same thing as you.......told me to have all my kids before 35. I hope you get a break soon. You sound exhausted.

Besides DH would not support me on it, he hates her putting her fingers in her mouth .
Geez, he'd die at our house!! I have 2 little finger suckers!! Eden sucks her pointer and middle fingers (rock on style!!) and Caleb sucks his thumb and pointer finger.......actually he sucks all his fingers in different ways. Depends on his mood!!! My DH didn't used to like it but I told him he would never have to go in to replace the dummy in the middle of the might and then he was all for it!!! :laughing: Sorry I can't help with the lump on her chest. Could be a hernia?? Up pretty high though so probably not.

.... the poor little mite is trying to be happy but even cuddles wont take the pain away.
Aaaawwwwww. Reading that just broke my heart. :( Poor little guy. So glad to read you got at least one good night's rest.

Oh and the clamping of her gums on my nipple is very painful.
Oooooooh yes! It hurts. Caleb had given up doing this, but has recently picked it up again, so I've got to get him out of the habit again before the teeth come along.

I have had what feels like morning sickness for over 4mths now & I think it is from not sleeping.
I was thinking it could also be IBS from the stress you've been under. Stress is a major cause of IBS. I had this about 5 years ago after a major stress & thought because I didn't have any other symptoms that it wasn't, but you don't have to take all of them. I took mintec tablets when it was really bad and also drank peppermint tea. They might help.

mel - All the best with starting work again soon.

kizmet - lots of hugs for little Robbie and for you. Please let us know how you're doing soon. :hugs:

[shymmer]

Had an ewey night while Steve was away, lots of nursery runs.. and now finding it hard to sleep when I go to bed these days!
How are you going with Xav Shana? Getting any more sleep? xx

Oh, you sound like me not too long ago, Sands; lucky to string 2hrs sleep together. And I also feel nauseous if I don't get enough sleep.
Thanks for thinking of me. Yes I was getting some decent sleep in during Xav's longest block of sleep between 6-7am to midday. But since her vac's on Thursday she's been unsettled, and still only having naps for the entire night - she went to 'bed' at 6am this morning! And I had to go to the dentist at 10am! Thankfully Dh watched her all afternoon and I slept.
But like you, when she has gone to sleep after midnight, I can't sleep! Ugh!



Things are no better here, we've worked out he has max of 40min sleep cycles day and night when the pain finally wakes him up. I think we need a referral to someone to get him checked out properly you can hear and feel his poor little gut its awful...

Tally, I hope you get some answers very soon. It's so horrible to see them in pain. Poor little Ry. They are so brave, these babies. Give him a big hug from us and we all wish him to be better.
I hope you get a break soon too. I got to a point a couple of years ago when I had to start saying no. I always tried to accomodate any request asked of me if I could, even though it was inconvenient, cost me money etc. But in the end I just felt used and unappreciated so I very politely began using the 'N' word. I certianly don't mind helping others - but I don't like it when they abuse my generosity and helpful nature! Sounds like that is what they are doing to you!

Kiz - when you are back online . . . hugs for Robbie too. He must have been pretty sick to even suspect whooping cough, so I hope he is feeling better now.


On the teething issue - Tonight I noticed a lump on Xav's bottom gum over to her right side. It's red around the base and whitish on top. Is it a tooth? I hope it's not an injury of some sort!

OK, so I'll be up for a while girls . . . Xav is down for a nap again. Expecting her up anytime now . . . Hope you all get some sleep in!

[shymmer]

12 hours later and I'm back herre.:D My home . . while I'm at home . . . :confused: hmm,amnyway . . . .

Again with the 6am bedtime! Now, midnight . . 2am I can handle but 6am is a bit rich even for me with my flexible, accept baby as she is, sleep when she needs to sleep attitude! I dont really want to be up all night! Half the night, OK, But not ALL night!!!!!!

We are going out this afternoon so hopeully the activity will tweak things without me purposely keeping her awake (which didn't work last time).

And what's this I hear about the "5mth horrors"??? Is there a month when baby isn't going through some sort of 'infant crises'?

Well . . . I must lay forth the royal broth to appease her highnesses appetite, so to the kitchens for me, to measure and boil and shake and prepare in haste before she brings her wrath down upon my head . . . .

Ahhh, lack of sleep seems to bring out the drama in me . . . . .

[Rainbowbrite]

Hey ladies, sorry about the no updates from mr, MJ has croup so we've been having sleepless nights & long days here. She got it just before I had Ani too. Not fun at all.

Anyway, Tally, huge :hugs: from me. Hope you get a break soon :hugs:

Kaybee, hope your getting some much needed rest :hugs:

......can't for the life of me remember anything else :o I feel so slack!!

Ani is doing well, not near as big as some of your bubs!. Like Tally, we're in medium MCN's but they are big, & infant nappies (4-8kg). Tried the next size up but they are too big. OH on the nappy topic, I picked up a bag of the target brand sposies the other day...dri-bots I think they are....anyway they are half price so $6.50 for a bag of 30 8-12kg ones. I've used them overnight on Ani with no problems!!!!

Can't remember what else I had to say.......Getting a LOT of pressure from friends/family to start Ani on solids....nothing unusual there :rolleyes:

Best be off, Mr Idon'tknowhowtosleep is tired & cranky again...

[Vespera]

Well girls we have had the week from hell but seems everyone else has too!

Last Thurs Connor went from sleeping 9 hours a night and 2 hour blocks during the day to no day sleeps and feeding every 2 hours even over night

On Sunday I did somethiong to my neck and was in so much pain, I couldnt move, pick up Connor or do anything. So DH had to do it all for 3 days (which was actually really good for his appreciation of how much work Connor is and yes I did get a begruding 'looking after him is more tiring than going to work!')

Saw the CHN on Monday, she suggested starting him on rice ceral as he might be hungry (he is now 5 months, 8kgs and very active - doesnt lay still for a moment!) so we held out til thurday and then bought some rice ceral.

I am pleased to announce that my angel baby is back! I feel so bad that he must have been so hungry he couldnt sleep :( but I really wanted to wait 6 months

So he now has brekkie and dinner, and I don't think we waste any ceral, he eats it and then chews his bib looking for more :p

:hugs: to all the girls with no sleep, I don't know how you do it

For those having a hard time with dinner this www.menuinabox.com (http://www.menuinabox.com) is my life saver. 100 recipes sorted into weeks all with their own shopping list. We just go shopping on Mondays, buy what we need and then are set for the week. Saving heaps of money too. And all the recipes are for 4 people so you end up with a freezer full of good food too xxx

Hope next week improves :goodvibes:

[sandralee]

Wow Tally! 2 kids with reflux! From what I have read, it sounds like what works for one child may not work for the next, so you have to do the 'double tweaking' thing of finding what works again! Yikes..
May have to get Noah's dose upped to 10mg, as 5mg is the very basic dose I think. There is so much experimenting involved isn't there?!? I am cutting out solids for a week and seeinghow he goes, cos some babies it helps & others it makes worse lol....jeez... and if you change a couple of things at once it is hard to know which one of those things helped! He had a much better night last night, where he had a couple of 3hrly feeds and no restlessness afterwards like he usually does... I did a few things differently - mylanta before feeds, and held him upright for about 15mins afterward (I know it is meant to be closer to 30-60mins but who wants to do that through the night!) I didn't give him any baby rice late arvo either. ho hum so much guess work. He also had a chance to burp in that time too. Hard to know. So much trial and error, which I find difficult, cos I want results NOW lol.
Apparently losec has an enteric coating around the tablet which should not be crushed - which defeats the purpose of mortar and pestle. Is that what you use too? I bought a pill crusher but it doesn't work with losec lol. Damn.
My life is pretty much an open book, so I find it easy to talk on here - cos if someone else has been through the same thing they can offer great advice or at least understand where you are coming from. Reflux is so 'brushed off' and a lot of people think it is all abut a spewy baby, but it goes a whole lot deeper than that - and you have possible 2 refluxers. I have only ever seen Noah possett twice inthe first week of his life, after gagging, and that has been it. Thank goodness! That would make it that much harder as far as the workload is concerned - not to mention weight loss.
He has had no problem with weight which I am so grateful for. At his last vaccinations he weighed 7.16kg. We were told to keep his nappies loose and that's why I buy toddler - it's mainly for when he is upright and being held, that it doesn't squish his tummy as much. I used cloth nappies during the day but found that he screamed too much when I changed him (which was regularly cos he peed so much!) so using disposables because of that. I hope (like everyon else) that he grows out of it really soon!! Plus I would love to dress him in jeans and cute shorts etc without worrying. His wardrobe is narrowed down to all-in-ones or overalls.
ANd Shana - I reached my peak with the no sleep, you come to a grinding halt eventually - was teary at the drop of a hat on thurs and fri. Steve got home late yest and helped me through the night. Also spoke again about me going away to Versace for the weekend soon and getting pampered etc - but I wouldn't feel comfy being away from Noah for that long, so how crazy am I?!?! Have even been making comments about botox cos I frown so much these days! Maybe just a day trip would be a good start..
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[sandralee]

p.s. Ves that webpage sounds fantastic!! Anyhting to save time (that I don't seem to have enough of as it is) these days!! 9hrs sleep a night must be heaven... <ponders> maybe one day.. I can only dream! :D
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[Nan]

It was a bit easier to cut and paste this from my Adelaide mums thread!!:

Well, it wasn't just a fender bender girls. It was a full on prang with a fence and a tree and the car will more than likely be written off. The crash repairer said he'd write it off, but the assessor comes out to look on Monday, so we'll know for sure then (......if we'll be in the poor house again while we pay off a newer car!!). We were just talking about getting a new car....something smaller but with good boot space still. We were thinking more along the lines of trading in, but I took matters into my own hands!!!! Hahaha!

I shouldn't laugh. Everyone who has seen the car has been pretty amazed that we got out of it with no injuries. I was on my way to meet up with some of you, and turned around to tell Eden off for throwing food (STUPID! ) on a blind corner coming out of Lobethal. When I turned back the car was half on the other side of the road with a car coming, so I swerved back but over steered, then I over corrected and before I knew it I'd lost it and the car was fish tailing then span around. The rear hit the guard rail and sent me spinning across the road (thank God there was no more on coming traffic), up a slight embankment, through a wire fence into a tree. There isn't a single panel of the car that wasn't damaged.

So, we're very lucky to still be here in one piece with all our faculties (well......mine were on the way out before the accident, hehe). I had a bit of a cry when I went to hug the kids thinking it would have been my fault if anything had happened to them.

Eden was funny. She didn't cry, but she yelled out because she was so scared. I told her not to be scared and she goes "What happened mama?". I said that I was silly and crashed our car. She goes "Yeah, its in the tree"!!!! Caleb just looked over at me with eyes wider than I'd ever seen them (think deer in headlights) as if to say "What the heck was THAT?". Poor little guy.

About 30 mins later when I got Eden out to have a bit of a walk around, I showed her the front of the car and she just went "Oh dear"!!!! I had to stifle a laugh because it sounded like she was telling me off!

Anyway, I won't rave on. What's done is done. I just hope the organizing of everything this week doesn't eat too much into our school holiday family time.

.......now off to read some more of your posts.

[perrywinkle]

OMG Nan glad you are all OK. That must of been so scary!! Around Lobethal area it's quite hilly and lots of bends isn't it. Oh I have goose bumps thinking about it. What kind of car was it? It must of been a solid one that's for sure!!!

Glad you guys are safe!!

[sandralee]

Nan I got goosebumps reading your post! That wold frighten the bejeezus out of me, and Noah would hav probably laid a LOT of turtle eggs in his nappy - as he is such an alert and jumpy aby from not sleeping properly! I am so glad you are all okay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxx

[Rainbowbrite]

Oh wow Nan, you guys are so lucky!!! :hugs::hugs:

[Nan]

PW - Holden Commodore VX sedan :thumbsup:


.......Getting a LOT of pressure from friends/family to start Ani on solids....nothing unusual there
Far out! Seriously.....what gives people the right to say stuff like that?!! Fair enough if he was 10 months old or something but he's not even 6 months yet!! That must drive you up the wall.

Well . . . I must lay forth the royal broth to appease her highnesses appetite, so to the kitchens for me, to measure and boil and shake and prepare in haste before she brings her wrath down upon my head . . . .
:laughing: You're funny! Sorry to hear about the morning bed times. That would drive me insane. You're way more patient than me. I've never heard of 5 month horrors. 6 month growth spurt but nothing at 5 months. If there is someone please tell me! I want to be prepared!!

So DH had to do it all for 3 days (which was actually really good for his appreciation of how much work Connor is and yes I did get a begruding 'looking after him is more tiring than going to work!')

For those having a hard time with dinner this www.menuinabox.com (http://www.menuinabox.com) is my life saver. 100 recipes sorted into weeks all with their own shopping list.
Thanks so much for that. What a great site. Similar to what I do now, but with menus from recipe books, so online would be even quicker! Sorry to hear about your neck. That was big of your DH to say that. Mine would probably rather die than admit it!!! :rolleyes:

Sands - You should sooooo go to the day spa. Don't worry about Noah. You're going to have to be away from him at some stage down the track & its good for him (and you!) to get used to being cared for by others. I remember my first night away from Eden I thought about her all the time and I had to make myself stop. She was fine though. You deserve it............in fact any mum who goes this long without decent sleep deserves it!!! :yes:

[Moops]

Hi guys

I didn't realise how long it had been since I've posted! Been reading what you are all up to though, big hugs for all of those who aren't getting any sleep.

Luca has been hard work lately, he is teething so whinges all day then hardly eats and then doesn't sleep at night....perfect! I'm cutting him some slack though because I know he is in pain, still it really tests your patience!

Nan - Luca eats at the same times 7,11,3 and 7 why isn't he sleeping through!!?? When does he sleep and for how long? :hugs:for your crash! I've had something similar to that and it really shakes you up!

Luca peed through to his mattress last night, I'm relunctant to change his nappy when he is sleepy at night cos it is easy to resettle him. If I changed him it would take ages to get him back to sleep, hmmm what to do.

My little man is getting about like no one's business, I can't believe he isn't even 5 months yet! He can make it across the room and yesterday he made it to the sky box (pay tv) and changed the channel to the Pussycat Dolls, DH was so proud! :laughing:

Speaking of DH we had a massive row yesterday and we still aren't talking! He was changing Luca's nappy and I walked in and DH was picking something up from the floor and Luca was just about to roll off the changing table! I yelled and DH quickly put his hand up to stop him, if I wasn't there god knows what would have happened!! He said he knew what he was doing but I would NEVER do that! I always have a hand on him, DH looks after him ok but he just isn't as careful as I am. I keep telling him that it only takes one careless moment for something awful to happen but he won't be told :hair:

Sands - I know what you mean about not wanting to leave bubs. DH keeps on telling me to go out or spend the night somewhere but I really don't think I could. Even when I had a massage the other day I spent most of the time thinking of him, and in light of recent events I think I would be even more worried!! I haven't left Luca with anyone but DH since he was born, he is so unpredictable that I feel I'm the only one that knows what to do with him. That is the control freak in me coming out!!

[sandralee]

Yeah I forgot to make a comment about your funny remark Shana!! I had a giggle or ten!!!
Just put Prince Noah to bed.. after holding him upright for 20mins after his bottle lol - really hard to let him learn to self settle when a bottle coincides with a bedtime... o well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
BIg brother starts tomorrow night yay - people bag it so much, but it's refreshing to see the different sides that people present. As you can guess, I LOVE real life stuff and seeing how people react. <now you can all bag me hehe>
Got some good news - my brother is coming home from NZ for a 10day holiday on the 7th may. I am booking a resort in hervey bay for 2 nights on the 10/11 may so I can spend some time with my family. It will be Noah's first holiday and the first time he will see the beach. (and my brother:yelclap:) Also my sisters bday, dads bday and mothers day..all within 48hrs! Only wish Steve could come too, but he can't. xx :hugs:

[sandralee]

Nan - Luca eats at the same times 7,11,3 and 7 why isn't he sleeping through!!?? !! I haven't left Luca with anyone but DH since he was born, he is so unpredictable that I feel I'm the only one that knows what to do with him. That is the control freak in me coming out!!

It would be so dreamy to give Noah only 4 bottles a day!!!!! My goodness, lol, I would be in heaven!!!

& ditto for the control freak thing. Steve has only just been able to get Noah to sleep once again, takes a while but he gets there by walking him around. At 4.45 this morning when I was resettling Noah (trying to) Steve turned a light on and BOOM Noah decided it was wake-up time! Not happy. I was sooooo angry at Steve... er um.... I was SO angry that I clunked the monitor in the nursery onto the chest of drawers, knowing full well the other part would be near Steve's head! This monitor is so sensitive and would have made a HUGE noise LOL. Decided that I wasn't going to put him back to sleep at all, and that Steve could take him. "You wake him, you walk him!" Bloody hell, I counted 6 catnaps that I put him down for today, and again at bedtime. From memory I got an extra 2hours sleep, or maybe it was an hour, I can't remember. Also said to Steve that I wanted him to participate a bit more with bedtimes, as there are enough of them in one day to pick from and I am sick of doing them all.
Moops that is so cool about Luca moving around - it's a bit harder for Noah to get exploring for long cos I have to keep him elevated! Even for tummy time which he now loves. The few times I have let him go just to see what happens, he moves around a lot lol, in a few different styles - from commando or popeye style with his arms, kicking his legs furiously like a frog, and head down/bum up.. but he hasn't thought too much about how to get his crawling legs happening.
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[shymmer]

OMG Nan! Thank god you are all ok. I'd be hard pressed to get behind the wheel again after that!
And we have a VX Commodore Sedan too - glad to know it can protect you in a beating!

Sandra - TAKE THE TIME OUT!!!!!! No you're not crazy for not wanting to be away from Noah overnight, but do the day trip, or just a massage, but take a few hours out for yourself. part of being a good parent is looking after your baby's mummy!!!

RB - perhaps your family think that if Ani was eating solids he might sleep better etc? As in Ves's case, Connor did need the solids earlier than expected.
I also felt a bit of pressure from my family to start Xav on solids pretty early (3mths) and also to formula feed, but it was b/c they honestly thought FF was easier than BF and solids helped with wind issues etc. They just wanted to make things easier for me when they saw me struggling.
But you just do what you feel is best.

No wine in the house . . again. Can you believe that? I'm limited to a nice large Bailies with ice.

[sandralee]

Shana I seriously can't wait to meet you guys, you sound so funny! I had a no-wine-in-the-house-night this week too..just forgot to buy it or ask Steve to pick some up on the way home lol! Bummer when that happens lol!
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Off to bed. Didnt give Noah any solids today and he is stirring a lot. He also didn't burp after his last feed (skulled 100ml bottle dry at his last feed yay) and I've noticed that he sleeps peacefully if he burps. Maybe it helps his stomach acids in some way. :confused: He feeds so much better through the night cos his body is relaxed - that's a bit of a bummer too lol!
xx night kids xx mmmmmmmmmmwah!:sleeping:

[tally]

Jeepers Nan, you poor thing that would be horrifying..

We had a better day today, we've mucked about with his meds and changed a few things and he was much happier, :fingerscrossed: its all we have to do. Will make an app with my gp in the morning to get the referral.

I've just gotten back from taking the older 2 to their dad, so a 5hr round trip and I left both little boys with DH... so for half the trip I was totally on my own.. Havent been away from Rylan since he was born so it was sorta nice. Nearly got written off by an idiotic drive not patient enough to wait for a passing lane.

RB its hard with the solids, we've taken Rylan back off them until we see someone about the reflux, he really wants them but I think they actually aggravated his tummy so I dont know what we're going to do there. Don't worry about what anyone else says you do what you feels right for him.

Also its so much easier when you have a DH who actually helps.. wonder how long it will last... :dizzy:

[Vespera]

Someone asked about a lump on their babies breast.... From my Baby Love Book
"Small Lump Under Nipple
It is quite common to be able to feel a lump under the nipple in one of your babies breasts. This has nothing to do with the swollen breasts that babies under three months develop due to hormones. Small lumps in older babies is normal breast tissue and nothing to worry about but check with your doctor if unsure"

Speaking of no wine in the house I opened 3 bottles and they were all funky! I gave up then and decided I was over the idea. Grrr

I don't have a problem leaving Connor, does that make me a bad mum? I've left him with Dh, my mum, sister and at day care for a morning when we had some appointments to go to. Maybe I just don't have a control freak side......

[tally]

I don't have a problem leaving Connor, does that make me a bad mum? I've left him with Dh, my mum, sister and at day care for a morning when we had some appointments to go to. Maybe I just don't have a control freak side......

Nope it doesnt.. I sometimes wish I could leave my kids more often than I do, it frustrates DH to no end.

I think mine comes from being a single mum with my first 2 and having to work from when they were quite small to keep my head above ground and I now realise how much I missed out on their younger years.. and I suppose making up for it now with these 2.

Also a firm believer that what works best for you is best for the kids, its no use trying to be something youre not iykwim.. :D

[Kizmet]

Right well I feel rather silly. Realised this morning I hadnt seen this thread pop up in my UCP lately and thought wow everyone mustnt be posting...then realised I hadnt subscribed to the new one :laughing:


Thank you all for your :hugs: and support! it means a lot!

We are home and today things are looking better! He was really really sick there for a while it was just horrifying, scary and just heart breaking. Watching him go through all of that just makes you want to cry-and believe me i did!

He has the RSV virus which is either the same as bronchiolitis or similar-not 100% sure on that but in any case there is nothing they can do being that is a virus. The coughing is just heartbreaking and makes him so upset. He has coughing fits for about 5-10 mins at a time and then throws up after sometimes. It is so hard. They say the cough could be gone in as little as 9 days or stick around for as long as 4 weeks :confused: I hope it isnt 4 weeks!

Abby has the cough as well which is harder and easier to deal with. Harder because she can articulate and tell me how much it hurts etc. and hearing that and not being able to do anything is so hard but easier at the same tim efor the same reason. She can tell me what hurts and things like that. I can explain to her what is happening whereas Rob just has no idea.

The staff at westmead children's were nothing short of amazing! the treatment we got there was fantastic. I feel inspired to do something to help them but just dont know where to start.

He is now drinking about 120ml sometimes a bit less other times a bit more but it is so much better than the 20-30-40 ml he was drinking in hospital. We have things to watch out for and take him back in if these things happen so i am watching him like a hawk.

Anyway just wanted to let you guys know we are doing ok (now John and I are sick too :rolleyes:) and prob wont be around much

Hope all is well!

[sandralee]

Glad you had beter day Tally! Something musthave been in the air lol, after the initial unsettled few hours from 7-almost 10pm Noah didn't wake til 1.15am for a feed and then 5am..then back to sleep til 6.30am! Doesn't sound like much, but for me it was heaven!!! xx

[sasa]

Hey Everyone,

Big hugs to Kiz, Tally, mm memory bad sorry, but anyone else that has a sick bub.

Nan hugss for you too, so sorry to hear about your accident but so glad that everyone is alright.

We have been away for the weekdnd, My older brothe ris here from Perth for a couple of weeks (staying down home at dads place in Ballina/Byron) so we all went up to noosa for a few nights. It was awesome to get out of Brissy and spend some tie with the fam. I have two neices 7 and 9 years old and DD1 had an absolute ball playign with them, DD2 was such a good little girl too.

My neices started to get sick yesterday when we were leaving and now DD1 is sick. She woke last night and spewed, she went back to bed well after cuddles and clean up but has woken so lathargic (sp?) and a little bit of a cough. She has already this morning fallen asleep twice on the couch and so has slept a lot of the day, hopefully thats all she needs - a lot of rest, and she will be well again. So I have made some pumpkin soup but she isn't interested in eating (she did have her porridge this morning but nothing else so far) I really hope it doesn't develop into something worse, it is horrible seeing her so unwell. Lucky DD2 is fine at this stage.

So much to catch up on that I missed over the weekend, I have read it all but lack of brain cells is making it hard to recall what I wanted to comment on.

I hope you are all having a good day!

OH and ditto Sands, can't wait to catch up with everyone, is it still on for next week? I will have to check the other thread.

[tally]

Glad you had beter day Tally! Something musthave been in the air lol, after the initial unsettled few hours from 7-almost 10pm Noah didn't wake til 1.15am for a feed and then 5am..then back to sleep til 6.30am! Doesn't sound like much, but for me it was heaven!!! xx

OMG that is awesome... I would kill for that rofl.. :D

They put us in for an emerg app with my gp this evening so fingers crossed she listens.

I just went and bought one of those play bouncy things that they can sit upright in and play, hopefully it'll distract him for a little while during the day.

Its unbelievable the amount of kids around who are spewing or crook in some form.. poor tackers...

[Kittylou]

Well it's been a shocking couple of nights for me. On Saturday, DH and I had a wedding to go to so Sophie and Blake went to my sister's for the day/night. Sophie was supposed to be being looked after here by my MIL but she has been quite sick lately so at the last minute I had to ask my sister to have both of them. We decided to leave Blake there overnight but planned to pick Sophie up after the wedding. We dropped them off at 1.00pm and didn't get back until 11.30pm. This is twice as long as I have ever left Sophie for - and the other time was just with DH so doesn't really count.

Anyway, being the silly woman that I am, I decided to call my sister after the ceremony to get an update - expecting to hear that all was fine and put my mind at ease for the rest of the night. Not to be. I had left Sophie there asleep and it turns out she was happy for about 2 minutes after she woke up and then cried for 90% of the time she was awake. She wouldn't take the bottle from my sister. My niece ended up being able to get her to drink it while lying in the pram. She wouldn't let my sister rock her to sleep so again ended up having to be pushed in the pram until she fell asleep. It was the most awful feeling and I have vowed not to leave her again for a very long time.

Then, last night DH put her to bed at about 7.30pm. We were exhausted (and I expected she would be too after the night before and not much sleep during the day) and very much looking forward to crawling into bed. But, 20 minutes later she was awake and snuffly, struggling to breathe. That's right, she had suddenly picked up Blake's cold (despite me begging him not to get to close to her over the past few days). So, DH and I spent the night taking turns at sitting on the couch holding her while she slept. She was waking crying about every 20 minutes so I don't think DH or I managed more than about an hour's sleep all night. Needless to say, we're both completely shattered today and absolutely dreading nightfall. Poor little Sophie is just miserable today but finally having a decent sleep in the cot.

I have to say, I am once again completely full of admiration for you girls who are up and down all night, every night. I seriously don't know how you do it!!

Um, I have kind of only skimmed over the last couple of pages and my sleep deprived brain hasn't really taken much in but Kiz, it's great to hear that Robbie is on the mend and Nan, huge :hugs: to you. I'm so glad that you all came out of the accident unhurt - I would have been a complete mess. Can't think of anything else right now and probably won't be back again until tomorrow. Need sleep!!!!

[sasa]

Tally good luck this afternoon...

Kittylou sorry to hear about your rough nights, and the dramas when you left sophie with your sister.

Well 2 bites of a dry sao for DD1 and half an our later she was spewing everywhere in the lounge room! Poor little thing, she is refusing any panadol, is warm but doesn't have a very high temp and is now again asleep. So washing spew blankets has been the joy for the last half hour while the girls sleep... now to try and tackle dinner before they wake uP!

[sandralee]

So cranky with the last gp I saw for Noah - he told me to grind the losec with a mortar and pestle - but I just learned that it isn't effective if the granules are crushed! So you have to dissolve it in water. He has now had his meds the right way for the first time in two months or more.
Yeah Tally I was so excited about getting 'some' sleep last night.. Noah has been high maintenance all day today, so I think he is upset that he 'forgot' to wake up so often last night lol! I thought he would be happier cos he had small sessions of undisturbed sleep for once. Do you find it better to give losec later in the day so it covers night time a bit better? I read somewhere that nexium last longer than losec or zoton... so many options lol....so much trial and error! xx
p.s. I just learned that my son snuck out to a party on friday night, that I told him he couldn't go to until he earned back my trust. Man! My dad was in the entertainment room very close to his bedroom too, so he was a very sneaky boy. Taking away all his priveleges for a month and grounding him. He will have to make lunch for school too cos I am not giving him tuckshop money either! What a day !!!!!:confused:

[tally]

he he Sandralee, I shouldnt laugh my eldest is 14 next month and not really looking forward to the things hes probably going to get up. His report last term was bad enough.. but I think our dissapointment in him at this stage is enough for him to pull his head in. Apparently if he worked as well as he socialised he'd be getting top marks.. :eek:

Rylan has his Losec in the morning and evening, if we dont give it to him within an hr - max 2 of the usual time we sure know about it. Maybe thats something worth talking to the paed about, the gap between meds might be too long for him, theres no way Ry would cope with it only once a day.

We dissolve Rylans in a 10ml syringe and then give it to him that way.. Dh actually gives it to him because he fights me too much. :confused:

[Moops]

It would be so dreamy to give Noah only 4 bottles a day!!!!! My goodness, lol, I would be in heaven!!!

& ditto for the control freak thing. Steve has only just been able to get Noah to sleep once again, takes a while but he gets there by walking him around. At 4.45 this morning when I was resettling Noah (trying to) Steve turned a light on and BOOM Noah decided it was wake-up time! Not happy. I was sooooo angry at Steve... er um.... I was SO angry that I clunked the monitor in the nursery onto the chest of drawers, knowing full well the other part would be near Steve's head! This monitor is so sensitive and would have made a HUGE noise LOL. Decided that I wasn't going to put him back to sleep at all, and that Steve could take him. "You wake him, you walk him!" Bloody hell, I counted 6 catnaps that I put him down for today, and again at bedtime. From memory I got an extra 2hours sleep, or maybe it was an hour, I can't remember. Also said to Steve that I wanted him to participate a bit more with bedtimes, as there are enough of them in one day to pick from and I am sick of doing them all.
Moops that is so cool about Luca moving around - it's a bit harder for Noah to get exploring for long cos I have to keep him elevated! Even for tummy time which he now loves. The few times I have let him go just to see what happens, he moves around a lot lol, in a few different styles - from commando or popeye style with his arms, kicking his legs furiously like a frog, and head down/bum up.. but he hasn't thought too much about how to get his crawling legs happening.
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Lol they are the "planned" bottles that doesn't include the night time ones that are really random. Sometimes he needs one at 11 or 2 or 3 or not at all.

You guys sound like us, LMAO about the monitor!! DH is doing a new thing where he gets up to feed Luca then comes back to bed and after about half an hour tells me that Luca is wide awake! So I go in and he's been playing in his cot for half an hour, fair enough he isn't crying but it isn't play time and it takes way longer to get him back to sleep!!

They look so cute when they are trying to get about don't they! If Luca has one arm tucked under his body he can lift his whole body up into the air, it looks like he is breakdancing! :laughing:


Well it's been a shocking couple of nights for me. On Saturday, DH and I had a wedding to go to so Sophie and Blake went to my sister's for the day/night. Sophie was supposed to be being looked after here by my MIL but she has been quite sick lately so at the last minute I had to ask my sister to have both of them. We decided to leave Blake there overnight but planned to pick Sophie up after the wedding. We dropped them off at 1.00pm and didn't get back until 11.30pm. This is twice as long as I have ever left Sophie for - and the other time was just with DH so doesn't really count.

Anyway, being the silly woman that I am, I decided to call my sister after the ceremony to get an update - expecting to hear that all was fine and put my mind at ease for the rest of the night. Not to be. I had left Sophie there asleep and it turns out she was happy for about 2 minutes after she woke up and then cried for 90% of the time she was awake. She wouldn't take the bottle from my sister. My niece ended up being able to get her to drink it while lying in the pram. She wouldn't let my sister rock her to sleep so again ended up having to be pushed in the pram until she fell asleep. It was the most awful feeling and I have vowed not to leave her again for a very long time.

Oh dear! That is my worst nightmare!


p.s. I just learned that my son snuck out to a party on friday night, that I told him he couldn't go to until he earned back my trust. Man! My dad was in the entertainment room very close to his bedroom too, so he was a very sneaky boy. Taking away all his priveleges for a month and grounding him. He will have to make lunch for school too cos I am not giving him tuckshop money either! What a day !!!!!:confused:

Oh Sands, the cheeky little bugger! Must be weird for you to deal with that and a little one as well! I can't imagine Luca being that big!

Kiz - great to hear it isn't whooping cough but still sounds pretty nasty, hope Robbie gets better soon.

Forgot to post I got a :bfn:, I still feel really rough though maybe it's just exhaustion!

Luca did well last night he woke once at 1am then slept till 6. What nappies does everyone use? Luca has wet the bed everynight!

[shymmer]

Evening yummy mummies,

Ahhhh . . . finally a nice glass of Cab/Sauv in hand . . . bring the night on!

Now, what can my wino brain remember . . . .

Sands- I hope you notice a difference with the meds for Noah now. Poor lil boy.
Really looking forward to meeting you too and catching up again with Sasa and Kittylou!
And . . er . . . I am guilty of the 'louder than nessesary actions' when I have 'had it' and need to punish Dh just that little bit . . .ahhh the sastisfaction :cool:.

Kittylou - oh, what an ordeal for you and little Sophie. I don't blame you for not wanting to leave her again in a hurry. It's just horrible to find out bubs was upset. That happened to me when I was leaving Xav at gym childcare - she was crying a lot of the time but I didn't know - until I went to get her. I felt SO bad. It takes time for them to get used to other people, Xav is pretty good in the gym childcare now, even smiles at the babysitter! So it will get better . . . just have to do little bits at a time with the same person I think so bubs gets to know them etc.

Sasa - big hugs for your beautiful DD1. I bet even her sweet soul can't find anything nice to say about how she is feeling. I hope she gets better right quick!

Kiz - sending Robbie lots of get well vibes too. That virus sounds pretty serious. Glad you are on top of things . . . I hope he gets over it soon.
I'm just wondering if giving a vit C dose or something might help??? Those damn virus bugs - nothing the Doc can give just makes you feel so helpless! I would recommend getting a bit OCD with the disinfecting of everything he and your hands come into contact with. It did help Xav get over her cold quickly . . . maybe it will help dilute the germs in his play area etc??? Just a thought.

Ok, I'm onto my second glass of red in the space of an hour. Feeling a tad p!ssy. Soooo nice :D.

Hugs, sleep vibes, get well soon cards to those who need them. Hope all your bubba's and you have a better night.

[shymmer]

Oh . . . . forgot to update about Xav . . :o

She has developed the not so charming habit of waking at 4am for two hours. Not sure how to coax her out of that one.

But aside from the sleeping issues . . .

I am hysterically thinking of another baby next year. Yes . . . ludicrous I know. ( I swore I'd never get preg again with the morning sickness I had) But your talk about having your kids before 35 is sinking in. I'm 33 this year. Always thought I'd have 5 kids - but now don't think so!!! But that only gives me 2.5 more years to crank out a few more. (Sorry . . so crass. It's the wine talking.)

Anyway - my angel is screaming her head of and dh isn't cutting it. Must go.

Ciao lovelies!

[MrsScatterbrain]

Hi everyone! :wave: I've been very slack with my reading!

Kiz - so glad to hear Robbie is well, I hope you and your family recover quickly - its a nightmare when everyone in the family is sick, isn't it? You are so brave, having your little one in hospital.

Nan - what a horrific thing to happen! These things just happen in the blink of an eye, don't they? Thank heavens you are all safe and well.

I have decided to ban myself from Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares! Both my little 'angels' woke up at 4.30am for the day this morning, bright eyed and bushy tailed! The diatribe that then escaped my mouth was a cross between Gordon Ramsay and Alf Stewart!! I have become a swear-a-holic from watching that show!!! :laughing:

Our internet came back on this afternoon after being off since last night. It was terrifying! I actually got quite jittery - my little link to the outside world had been cut! Thank heavens I have my computer back!! :thumbsup:

[sandralee]

Sasa - lots of healing energy to your little girl, she is in great hands though.. you sound like a wonderful mummy!
SHana you are making me laugh about the wine - my drink of choice this arvo and tonight, was a rum and coke UDL..okay maybe two lol!
Moops I couldn't handle Steve 'helping' with Noah if it meant extra work for me all the time lol!!! Every now and then would be okay, but I would want to get back to sleep as quickly as possible so it just wouldn't cut it hehe!
Mrs S, the world is at your fingertips with internet access lol - I have ever used my laptop so much as when I fell pregnant - so much researching has been done lol.. and it is all quite empowering! You guys are my lifesavers MMMMMWAH! Just got an invite to join the RISA forum too, to get some help and support with Noah. I wish I had acted sooner with getting meds adjusted etc, but too tired to really 'realise' that things could be improved upon - I was getting used to all this as being the norm for him and desensitising! Tonight is taking on a similar pattern to last night.. unsettled for a few hours after last feed/bedtime etc so I hope we all get another reasonable couple of sleeps tonight.
Moops I feel like I have had morning sickness for about 4mths, so had a few times when I thought I wa preg.. I think it is from lack of sleep!
Sorry to hear about your babysitting experience, I would freak out in that position. One of my worst nightmares about even going away for the day, cos I don't think Steve would ring me.. he would know I'd worry majorly loL!!
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[Nan]

Howdy gals. Hope you've all had a good day.
:hugs: to all the sick little people & thank you all for your thoughts. I am feeling ok about the accident. No delayed shock or trauma etc. Just can't seem to shake this darn laryngitis/throat thing I've had for a week or so. I have had the most sexy voice though!!! :laughing: I'm a bit over it now and wish the lump of whatever is stuck on my throat would cough up and disappear.
We're off for a drive to Victor Harbour (coast about an hour away) tomorrow to check out a new car that we like that is in a yard down there & are making a day of it seeing as how the weather will be nice. Looking forward to that. :yes:

Nan - Luca eats at the same times 7,11,3 and 7 why isn't he sleeping through!!?? When does he sleep and for how long?
Hey Moops! Not sure why he isn't sleeping through, but as a general rule with both of my kids I never took their feeds out to 4 hours or dropped late feeds if they weren't sleeping through consistently. I always found if either of them woke in the night I'd give an extra feed the next day and for a while after and sure enough they'd sleep through again. Worked every time for me. You may just have a hungry little boy. I know Caleb only went to 4 hourly this week and Eden was having 4 hourly feeds from around 3-3.5 months, I reckon.
Caleb's day sleeps are from 9-10am, 12:30-2:30 & 5-6pm. Obviously these times aren't rigid. He sleeps around about these times. I let him sleep as long as he wants (again, only because he sleeps so long at night) apart from if he's due to eat, then I wake him. This is pretty rare though. So, he has roughly 4 hours of day sleep now, goes to bed straight after his 7pm feed and wakes anywhere from 6:30-7:30am. He chats to himself & waits in there for me to come get him for his first feed sometime between 7-7:30am. Such a little :angel:!!! Both my kids have thrived on a strict routine.

And we have a VX Commodore Sedan too - glad to know it can protect you in a beating!
It was a FANTASTIC car. Just cost a fair bit to run these days. Funny thing though is that my airbags didn't deploy!!! :thumbsdown: The crash repairer & tow truck guy were amazed! I don't know if thats a blessing or a curse though. I've heard stories of broken noses from airbags etc. I'm a shorty, so it'd probably happen to me. Maybe I should be grateful!

I don't have a problem leaving Connor, does that make me a bad mum?
If it does then I'm one too!!! Thanks again for that website. I spoke to Shane about it and he reckons we should download the stuff and give it a try. Even if we don't use it all the time, it'll be great for the weeks we know will be very busy.

Watching him go through all of that just makes you want to cry-and believe me i did!
Just reading it makes me want to! You poor things. How awful. Here's hoping you're all better soon.

It was the most awful feeling and I have vowed not to leave her again for a very long time.
Oh hun. That's awful. I know the feeling. The exact same thing happened the same time I left Caleb with my mum for the first time. We went out for tea for a few hours and he howled the whole time. I agree with Shana though. Don't give up! She will get better and better and she was probably starting to getting sick.The next time with mum Caleb cried about 30% of the time and the last time not at all. Sure, she's sad that you're not there, but you're not bad parents for going out on the odd occasion and you should be able to do that. That's what I think anyway.

Well 2 bites of a dry sao for DD1 and half an our later she was spewing everywhere in the lounge room! Poor little thing, she is refusing any panadol, is warm but doesn't have a very high temp and is now again asleep.
Poor little love. Lots of :hugs:

So cranky with the last gp I saw for Noah - he told me to grind the losec with a mortar and pestle - but I just learned that it isn't effective if the granules are crushed! So you have to dissolve it in water. He has now had his meds the right way for the first time in two months or more.
..............another case to add to my 'Why I'm not a huge fan of doctors' file. At least you know now. I guess that's something.
Night, night all! Mmmmwwwaaaaaaa!

[Vespera]

Thanks again for that website. I spoke to Shane about it and he reckons we should download the stuff and give it a try. Even if we don't use it all the time, it'll be great for the weeks we know will be very busy.


No probs - she offers a full refund if you arent happy after trying it for 6 weeks. And trust me you'll save the $20 it costs easily! I don't run through the weeks in order, just choose one I want and go from there :D

[shymmer]

Yes, It's 2am and we are up. :rolleyes:

But . . . .proud mummy moment! - Xav just (awkwardly) picked up her dummy and put it in her mouth! The right way up too! So clever!:cool:

Nan - I was wondering about the airbags since you never mentioned them. I was going to ask if they 'hurt' you! But yeah, since you got out of it unhurt prob a good thing they didn't as they might have done more damage than the accident!

Mrs S - Sometimes I have a mouth on me that would surprise even Gordon I think! I must control it before Xav learns her mother is a crack pot!
You made me laugh with your internet withdrawal! Do you have any wine? . . .

[Kittylou]

You made me laugh with your internet withdrawal! Do you have any wine? . . .

PMSL!!!! You girls crack me up!!! You're turning into a bunch of alcos!!!!:laughing:

Well the good news here is that last night.... WE SLEPT!!!!! All of us!!!! Sophie woke up for her dream feed and didn't look like going back to sleep straight after but she did. I woke up during the night to go to the toilet and did a little dance down the hallway back to bed when I saw that it was 4.55am and I had been asleep since about 11.30pm!!!

Will be back later to read properly.

Sasa, your poor little DD. I hope she had an ok night and is feeling better today. What a lot of sickies we have at the moment!

[Rainbowbrite]

Mrs S i'm the same when my net is taken away lol

Kitty, that would really annoy me that they didn't call.

Sasa, hope your DD is on the mend really soon :hugs:

Ves, that site looks great!!

Well, we've not had the greatest time here :( MJ has had croup which has turned into a really bad cold, stuffy head/runny nose etc. She's not a happy camper. Spent the day with my sister & 15yr old niece yesterday & had a ball though. We spent yesterday at sleep school & it was a failure :( Ani flat out refused to sleep, screamed like i've never heard him scream before. Really broke my heart :( The nurse & I decided that neither of us are ready yet, so will just do what ever we can for now & go back in a month.

[Kittylou]

I don't have a problem leaving Connor, does that make me a bad mum? I've left him with Dh, my mum, sister and at day care for a morning when we had some appointments to go to. Maybe I just don't have a control freak side......

I didn't have a problem leaving DS when he was a baby either. But I think that was because we lived with my Mum so leaving him with her was just like leaving him with DH, but better because I knew if he was upset or did something out of the ordinary Mum would handle it well - in fact, I thought she would probably handle it better than me. Also, he didn't have all the peculiarities that Sophie has with feeding and sleeping.

Thanks for the meal website too. It's exactly what I need. I have heaps of recipe books and magazines but never seem to find the time or energy to go through them and pick meals and write down everything I need to make them before I go shopping. :fingerscrossed: this works for me.



They put us in for an emerg app with my gp this evening so fingers crossed she listens.


How did you go Tally? Massive :hugs: to you and Rylan. Really, there's no better place to get things off your chest than right here so don't ever feel bad for it and don't worry about holding back.


p.s. I just learned that my son snuck out to a party on friday night, that I told him he couldn't go to until he earned back my trust. Man! My dad was in the entertainment room very close to his bedroom too, so he was a very sneaky boy. Taking away all his priveleges for a month and grounding him. He will have to make lunch for school too cos I am not giving him tuckshop money either! What a day !!!!!:confused:

Oh Sandra, you poor thing!! I was a bit of a terror as a teen so, if karma has anything to do with it, I'll be in for some rough times in a few years with DS - he's a perfect kid now so I can't imagine it but who knows what'll happen when puberty hits...

And some :hugs:for you and little Noah too. As others have said, you definitely need some time out. I couldn't leave Sophie overnight (even before the weekend disaster) but definitely for a day or even afternoon with DH.

I think there was other stuff I was going to say without quoting anyone but I've completely forgotten!

Sophie is a little better today. Still really stuffy but not quite so miserable. We just don't seem to know what to do with ourselves though. She's not really clingy like she was yesterday and she wants to play but after lying flat on the floor for a while she gets so stuffy that she sounds terrible trying to breathe. And, she's just started rolling easily from back to front so does it just about every time I put her down - but then cracks it after a few minutes because she doesn't really like tummy time but can't work out how to get back over so I'm constantly putting her back on her back only to turn around and find her on her tummy again :rolleyes:.

[sasa]

Thanks everyone so much for your well wishes for DD1, she is feeling a lot better today, not quite 100% but hopefully it was just a 24hr bug... back soon, get some tyding up done while DD2 is sleeping.

[AliyahBlake]

Holy Moly you guys can talk!!! I've been away for 4 days and have had about 6 pages to catch up on!!! I'll let you all know about Blake's christening shortly but first I'll get into some multiquote action..........beware - I may fill up a whole page just on my own!


I found you guys on Facebook!

Yay! I'll go there and look for you soon!



I am on a mission to have a calm baby who sleeps longer than 2hours. He had a session with the osteopath today, which was so gentle, like a massage - they say that it will either really relax them afterfwards OR mke them unsettled for up to 48hrs...

I've heard osteopaths are good for unsettled bubs. I'm actually considering seeing one about my back - I haven't tried an osteo before so I'm wondering if that'd get rid of my back pain?



Lordy Toddler nappies, Rylan must be tiny lol.. I cant even use Crawler nappies yet as the tabs completely cross over so they've got nothing to stick to and just fall off.. Though I mainly use mcn's anways... most mediums in them are still huge lol.
Blake's in large disposables now, simply because of his length - the medium ones were getting too short and we were having serious leakage problems!

Sorry to hear you've been having a tough time lately, Tally. I hope it all gets better for you soon:hugs:



Getting a LOT of pressure from friends/family to start Ani on solids....

Stay strong RB - only you know what's best for Ani and don't let anyone tell you otherwise, girl!!!



BIg brother starts tomorrow night yay - people bag it so much, but it's refreshing to see the different sides that people present. As you can guess, I LOVE real life stuff and seeing how people react. <now you can all bag me hehe>

I won't bag you as I love the reality shows too (well, not all of them but most!). I don't know if I'll do the BB thing this year, as last year's was a huge yawn for me and I ended up stopping watching it halfway through the series.


Someone asked about a lump on their babies breast.... From my Baby Love Book
"Small Lump Under Nipple
It is quite common to be able to feel a lump under the nipple in one of your babies breasts. This has nothing to do with the swollen breasts that babies under three months develop due to hormones. Small lumps in older babies is normal breast tissue and nothing to worry about but check with your doctor if unsure".
Good info, Ves - Aliyah had a little lump in her nipple for quite a while, but the GP said it was a cyst and was very common. She said if it caused pain or got infected they'd treat it, otherwise she said they usually go away of their own accord. Aliyah's has gone now.



He has the RSV virus which is either the same as bronchiolitis or similar-not 100% sure on that but in any case there is nothing they can do being that is a virus. The coughing is just heartbreaking and makes him so upset. He has coughing fits for about 5-10 mins at a time and then throws up after sometimes. It is so hard. They say the cough could be gone in as little as 9 days or stick around for as long as 4 weeks :confused: I hope it isnt 4 weeks!

:hugs: Oh Kiz! Poor little Robbie! RSV is actually a pretty common illness for littlies to get unfortunately. I hope he's getting better everyday and you guys are coping fine with it all.



Forgot to post I got a :bfn:, I still feel really rough though maybe it's just exhaustion!

Good to hear Moops - you probably are just exhausted. Comes with the territory!!


PMSL!!!! You girls crack me up!!! You're turning into a bunch of alcos!!!!:laughing:

:D Well, I guess it's whatever gets you through!! Sometimes I just crave a glass of chardy or a Baileys on Ice - even though I'm still BF I still give myself the pleasure of a drinky occassionally!

Well, Blake's christening was beautiful on Saturday. We had it at a little country church in the town where Craig's parents live. Aliyah was christened there too. We wanted a small intimate ceremony instead of the usual mass Catholic ceremonies they do in the churches around Sydney. The Mass was all about Blake. He was so well behaved considering the ceremony was at 6 pm which is his usual bedtime. He didn't even cry when the water was poured on his head. He stayed awake for the whole thing, then fell asleep in my arms while we had photos afterwards. We then had the after party at the local pub and Blake slept soundly in his pram the whole time we were there. Aliyah was wonderful - her UTI has settled although she now has a cold. She still had a ball though, running around with her cousins until about 10pm!

I'll post some christening photos soon - I just have to put them on the computer first.

[Moops]

Hi everyone!

Just had to say I'm so happy Luca went to bed at 7pm and woke at 4.15am! Then went back to sleep till 7.30am!!! :smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedanc e::smiliedance:

We are off to swimming lessons soon so I will come back for personals! :hugs:

[tally]

Hi everyone!

Just had to say I'm so happy Luca went to bed at 7pm and woke at 4.15am! Then went back to sleep till 7.30am!!! :smiliedance:

We are off to swimming lessons soon so I will come back for personals!

Wow.. well done Luca!!!! awesome job - keep it up.. :yelclap::yelclap:

Doctor didnt really help much - she thinks its all allergy related - which both DH & I disagree with. To us it doesnt make sense other than the fact that our 3yr old has quite severe allergies and is ana to egg.. but Rylan is showing none of the early symptons that he did, nor did our 3yr old ever react in this way. So now we're on trial an error with solids to see what he can and cant tolerate and work out if it is allergies. I am praying with all my will that it is only reflux.. and these allergies are so cruel and reflux pales in comparison...

Heres some piccies I took today

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj194/rysmummi/Ry4.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj194/rysmummi/Ry8.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj194/rysmummi/Ry2.jpg

[sasa]

Ab Sounds like you all had a great day for BLakes Christening, good to hear. :yes:

Moops Thats fantastic! :yelclap: Good to hear Luca is being such a good boy for you.

Tally Sorry to hear that the doc wasn't as much help as hoped. Good luck with the trial and error, fingers crossed it is just reflux and you get it all sorted asap.
By the way I love your hugalugs, we have the same ones :thumbsup:

[MrsScatterbrain]

Both my kids have thrived on a strict routine.

I LOVE a good routine! Especially when you need to organize two kiddies around each other! There is a littlie at Playgroup who doesn't have a routine, and he is always tired and obnoxious - don't envy his Mum! I have been obsessing that Thomas doesn't get a big sleep for his first sleep of the day, but you seem to do it with success!



Mrs S - Sometimes I have a mouth on me that would surprise even Gordon I think! I must control it before Xav learns her mother is a crack pot!
You made me laugh with your internet withdrawal! Do you have any wine? . . .

:laughing: I really want to know what comes out of your mouth now! Wonder if it would rival what came out of mine when the boys were up at 4.50am again this morning!

No wine - but some gorgeous duty free Kalhua Mum brought back for us! :cloud9:




Well, we've not had the greatest time here MJ has had croup which has turned into a really bad cold, stuffy head/runny nose etc.

That sounds terrible, hope MJ is on the road to recovery fast!



Oh Sandra, you poor thing!! I was a bit of a terror as a teen so, if karma has anything to do with it, I'll be in for some rough times in a few years with DS - he's a perfect kid now so I can't imagine it but who knows what'll happen when puberty hits...

Sophie is a little better today. Still really stuffy but not quite so miserable.

:laughing: I can't imagine you being a rebellious teen! Glad to hear Sophie is on the mend!



Well, Blake's christening was beautiful on Saturday. We had it at a little country church in the town where Craig's parents live.

That sounds lovely - can't wait to see pics!




Heres some piccies I took today

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj194/rysmummi/Ry4.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj194/rysmummi/Ry8.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj194/rysmummi/Ry2.jpg

What a beautiful boy! He looks so much older and stronger!


I had my first counselling session today and it went really well. She wanted to know my history again, even though I'd gone through it on my introductory session, I just wanted to say "fix me already!!". :laughing:

I'd taken DS1 to Occasional Care the week before for a trial run, and he wasn't too keen on it, and whinged the whole way there, but thankfully he really enjoyed it once he got there. :goodvibes: I'm so relieved! I'm not sure what I was going to do if he wasn't happy there!

Little Thomas has been happily sitting on my lap, so hopefully not too long before he can sit by himself! :thumbsup: He has, however, stopped rolling! Has anyone else's bubs done this?

[sandralee]

Love the pics Tally!!! (and I want a pair of leg warmers like RYlan's please:D) xx

[Rainbowbrite]

Kitty we do the same thing with Ani all the time. Its like he forgot how to roll back :rolleyes:

AB so glad you had a great weekend. Can't wait for pics!!

Moops, how did you guys go at swimming? I'd love to start Ani, but might wait till next year I think.

Tally, he is gorgeous. Love the big butt :p Hope you get him sorted out soon, & that it isn't allergies :hugs:

Mrs S, so glad the counselling went well :hugs: When we had the sleep clinic on monday (and failed lol) They kept giving me the option of going back to it. I just don't know though, I know its good long term, but its not nice at all in the early day, re-living & remembering all the stuff :(

Sandralee, check out Green Kids website ;) They sell leg warmers. MJ has a very cute pair of pink ones with skulls lol.

Had an ok night here, Ani was up at 1 & 5.30. I think he might be getting the cold MJ has & i'm starting to get. My throat is killing me, but i'll live. Ani had 2 sleeps in the cot yesterday, I had to cuddle him to sleep as leaving him there really upsets him now, but he slept for 2 hours the first time & 1 hour the second, so no complaints!!

Oh, just wanted to add, I started MJ on a kiddy multivitamin & it really seems to have helped with her moods. She's a lovely, friendly little girl again!!

Hope your all well!

[sasa]

Mrs S I am so glad that Ds1 enjoyed occasional care, must be a weight off. SOunds like your session went well too, best of luck with it.

Sands, check out http://*********.com.au/ we have a few pairs and they are awesome. I always have a pair in my bag in case it gets a bit cool and she is in short pants or sleeves. love em!

RB hopefully you guys dont get sick, it is horrible to have the whole fam unwell. SOunds like you had a good day with Ani sleeping in his cot, lets hope it keeps it up for you :fingerscrossed:

[sasa]

Well I am feeling a little flat again today, I thought I was just enjoying being a lazy home body the last couple of days cause of DD1 being sick, but she is much better again today and I feel a bit blah still.. Was thinking maybe I was coming down with what she has had, or maybe the return of my lovely old monthly friend...?? Not sure, feel like it is hard to get motivated to do things - mostly the tyding up and washing lol, but yeah just feeling a little flat... I have some womens multi I should be taking I guess, I have been into the vtamin c but mostly cause I like sucking on them like lollies lol (orange flavoured ones), have to get into a routine of taking the vitamins.

So not sure what we are going to do/achieve today...? What are you all up to today?

Well enough ranting about it Stevie, get on with it!

[Rainbowbrite]

I'll be doing nothing lol. Not even getting out of PJs if I can help it. I feel like you-know-what. I have about 4 loads of washing to fold, more to put in the dryer (its bucketing down here) & foxtel hasn't been working since yesterday :hissy: I'm bored :( So much to do, no energy to do anything.......

[Kittylou]

RB, you've just reminded me that I meant to say something about your sleep school experience. I'm so sorry it didn't work out for you and Ani and I just wanted to let you know that the same thing happened to me and DS when he was a baby. We went to a day stay and it was kind of like the holy grail - you kind of put off doing it because you don't think it's that bad or they will just suddenly change and start sleeping but when you finally decided to get 'expert' help, you expect that it's actually going to solve the problem. We spent the morning there and after 1.5 hours of trying to get my DS to sleep the nurse just said to me, "I'm sorry but I just don't think your baby sleeps." I was just thinking WTF!!! I could have told you that already - that's why I'm here and what you're supposed to be able to fix!!!!

So anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I've been there. I really hope he improves as he gets older. It sounds as though you had a good day yesterday so at least that's something - you know he CAN do it.

[sasa]

Oh Yeah RB, sorry I forgot about that too, I am sorry that sleep school didn't work out well the other day. Are you thinking of giving it another shot in the future? I guess consistency is the key hey, doesn't make it any easier, thining of you.

[perrywinkle]

Well, Blake's christening was beautiful on Saturday. We had it at a little country church in the town where Craig's parents live. Aliyah was christened there too. We wanted a small intimate ceremony instead of the usual mass Catholic ceremonies they do in the churches around Sydney. The Mass was all about Blake. He was so well behaved considering the ceremony was at 6 pm which is his usual bedtime. He didn't even cry when the water was poured on his head. He stayed awake for the whole thing, then fell asleep in my arms while we had photos afterwards. We then had the after party at the local pub and Blake slept soundly in his pram the whole time we were there. Aliyah was wonderful - her UTI has settled although she now has a cold. She still had a ball though, running around with her cousins until about 10pm!

I'll post some christening photos soon - I just have to put them on the computer first.

Glad everything went well on the weekend. Now you can relax before you start work!!


Hi everyone!

Just had to say I'm so happy Luca went to bed at 7pm and woke at 4.15am! Then went back to sleep till 7.30am!!! :smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:

We are off to swimming lessons soon so I will come back for personals! :hugs:

That's great news!! :smiliedance: Hopefully he'll keep up the good work!


Oh, just wanted to add, I started MJ on a kiddy multivitamin & it really seems to have helped with her moods. She's a lovely, friendly little girl again!!

Hope your all well!

I have Mitchell on a Multi - Vitamin too. Little animals he loves them.


What are you all up to today?


Well I am going to a friends house today to celebrate her son's B'day which was last week so a little play and Morning tea then I'll go and do some food shopping from there. Need to do a fairly big shop have hardly any meat in the freezer. I'm hoping she will have a sleep in the trolley whilst I shop. She'll be due a sleep then so :fingerscrossed: Then some more study this afternoon as usual!

Had a funny night last night. She was stiring heaps until 11.30pm then I decided to feed her which I normally don't do and then she slept till 3.30am and had another feed and woke at 6.45am. She's got a big lump in her gums and it's all white too but it's her bottom right hand fang so she might be cross cutting. Eek!!!

Have a good day everyone.

[Kittylou]

What are you all up to today?



Not a whole lot. Another day at home with a sick baby. I was supposed to be having mother's group here this morning but had to cancel it. We're going over to my sister's later to pick up her vapouriser but we won't go in because I wouldn't want Sophie to pass on her germs to my nieces.

I've been feeling a bit flat the last couple of days too, Stevie, but I'm sure it's just from lack of sleep and looking after Sophie. It's a beautiful day outside, I'd love to be able to get out and enjoy it. Maybe take the girls for a trip to the park if DD1 is up to it - might lift your mood a bit?

[shymmer]

RB: What a shame about the sleep school. I was going to suggest exactly what you are doing . . . rocking/cuddling to sleep rather than feeding to sleep and putting him in the cot when you can. Little transitions so as not to shock the life out of him! I have a feeling if I went to sleep school I'd have the same thing - Xav turing it on saying - THIS IS NOT HOW I GET TO SLEEP PEOPLE!!!!
But you've definately had a win with his couple of sleeps in the cot so far!


We had a pretty decent night last night! Xav had 150ml bottle before bed at 9.30pm - I thougth that was a good start! And she only got restless around the 3am mark from wind I think, a couple more bottles overnight and woke up at 8.30am! I'm really happy - no 'lets play' time overnight!!!
But wouldn't you know it - I am so used to surviving on only a few hours sleep that after I've had about 2 + 3hrs I can't get to sleep again!

Sasa- sorry you are feeling so blah. I hope you don't get too sick and it is just Aunt Flo visiting. :rolleyes:

PW - I thought Xav was cutting a bottom right fang too - but it's dissapeared! She wasn't happy about it either!

AB - the Chirstening sounds wonderful. I got married in a country church in my home town for the same reasons - more intimate and slower paced. Looking forward to pics!

Tally - Ry is such a handsome little boy - go the leg warmers!! (Love the b/w shot!)

Well, today I have had our new TV unit delivered - so nice! And my SIL is coming over for a visit. I'd like to go to Kmart and check out thier linen on sale (last day) and also need food. Might hit the gym if I'm still standing at 4pm.

[MrsScatterbrain]

Hi everyone,

We're having a :dizzy: here, too. DS1 is at his daycare day, and every time I get a break from him Thomas screams all day! :hair: I have just given him a bath to relax him, and he's been sleeping for 20mins or so. :fingerscrossed:

I've been a mess of tears! I've decided to enrol DS1 in 3-yo kinder, as I've realised the only thing holding him back is me! I'm pretty sure he'll be ready, but I am definitely NOT! I just cannot bear the idea of my baby boy going to kindergarten! :(I have been researching it this morning and got myself organised. I can't even imagine what a mess I'll be when he's off to school! (I can so see myself going for a third then!:o)

RB - I did forget to say, sorry to hear Sleep School didn't work out. It seems such a short time to help with sleep - just one day. DS1 screamed for his first day, too, but it improved. I know how you feel about counselling - even though I've committed now, I feel very apprehensive about it all. At least I've got through the 'going through it all' sessions. Well sort of !

Kittylou and Sasa, I hope your littlies (and you!) feel better soon! I always find a trip to the park, or just to get some milk at the shop the best medicine. We have a close-knit suburb where we all know each other, and I always run into someone to chat too and feel heaps better. :hugs:

shana - glad you had a good-ish night! A new TV unit - nice!

[AliyahBlake]

What are you all up to today?
Well, Blake's having a sleep at the moment. Later on we're meeting up with some of our mother's group lot so the kids can play and we can catch up. I haven't seen the girls for about a month, so I'm sure there'll be hours of chinwagging!!:laughing:

It's a horrible rainy and cold day here, so unfortunately the washing I was planning on doing won't happen. Well, I may get a little bit done, but the laundry resembles a warzone at the moment!! I hope we get some sun soon! I have a dryer, but alot of things say "Do not tumble dry" so I'll only be able to stick some stuff in there.

Anyway, the little fella's awake, so gotta go. I might get those christening photos up later today when I have time.

[Rainbowbrite]

Thanks Kitty & Sasa. We have another day booked on 19th May. Today has been a failure. Yesterday, the only way he would go in the cot was asleep & only if I put my pillow in there & his head & shoulders on that. Today not even that is working. I don't know what to do. He WILL NOT settle in the cot, just screams & screams, & its not just a little one, its a full on, red faced/blotchy skin & eyes, sweaty scream. Its heart breaking to hear. Its like being left at the sleep place has made him scared of the cot.

PW, I hope her teeth don't give her too much trouble. Nothing worse than teething. Ani isn't lookin like any are on the way yet.........

I need to vent.......Foxtel is not working :hissy: It went off yesterday morning & its still not back on. I called them 3 times yesterday & this morning, but get this, their system is down so they can't order a technician to come fix it :mad: NOT HAPPY!!!!!! Commercial tv sucks & I'm sick of watching dvds :( Don't mind me, I feel yucky & want to sleep :(

[shymmer]

Oh RB . . . . deep breath.
Have you tried rocking Ani to sleep in your arms and putting him in the cot when asleep? Xav will rarely go to sleep in the cot by herself, I have to rock her first. If I put her on her tummy when very tired and pat her back she sometimes will go off that way.
If Ani has become afraid fo the cot you have to so it slowly. Put him in when he's asleep (in your arms) and stay there ready to pat/kiss/shush if he stirs so he knows you are still there. Pick him up again if nessesary and hold/rock him until he is calm/alseep and try again.
You could try the Pick up/Put Down method now since he is over 4mths; You put him down when tired (I personally would would have him almost asleep) and if he cries - pick him up and calm him. Then put him down again - cries, pick up and calm/asleep, put down . . pick up etc. It takes time and you might be picking him up 50 times - but, he knows you are there, he keeps getting soothed by you, you don't let him cry. And eventually he works out that you aren't going away, but he does have to sleep in the cot.
Atm Xav will sleep in the cot if I put her in there asleep first. I'm happy to rock her to sleep each time for now, but later when she older I will use the pick up/put down method to get her to go to sleep in the cot by herself.

HTH. :hugs:

[sandralee]

THanks RB they are so cute! (but not as cute as Ry wearing them!) Sorry you had such a bd experience at sleep school, always hear so many mixed comments..
I actually had a 'good' night - he is resettling himself on and off which saves me doing bum patting or picking him up lol.. he was 'awake' every 2hours from 10pm & a couple of resettles were required after one of his feeds (cos I didn't keep him upright for long afterwards), so it was an awesome night in our household!
Just got back from the GP - he has doubled his meds, so now 5mg losec both morning and night. We go back to see him next wk, and if no improvement we are off to gastric paed. Was so horrible to watch him push Noahs stomach around to make him reflux (just to make sure that he really did have reflux) and he just screamed and screamed. EW!! Our appt is monday but just remembered the bubhub meet, so will change appt to tues instead. Steve is going to take a week off to help out in may - yay!!
Back later peoples XXXXXxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[sandralee]

:yelclap:p.s. Noah had an 80min sleep this morning by himself yay!!!!!!!

Since he had that reaction to vacc's I have had to mostly hold Noah to get him to sleep...then bum patting for a week...then his reflux flared up again so mostly holding him, espec if he has just had a feed. It's tiring!!!! And boring!!! Now, I am just trying to hold him for a couple of mins then try him in bed first with a pat, ut if he gets really distressed I pick him up.. as crying & distress can provoke reflux as well grrrrrr. Before he got sick all I had to do was say goodnight to a few things, put him into his cot, and if he didn't go to sleep straight away I would rub my tshirt over his face lol - he started doing it one day and I just followed his lead. So funny. Or he would roll his head and rub his eyes under the palm of my hand and fall asleep. I have been ripped off lately!
RB - We have had a few crappy days in a row, so yest to help elevate his head a bit more I put my flattest pillow in his cot - even though you aren't supposed to, I don't see the problem yet as he sleeps wedged into a 'snuggler' which stops him from rolling around and getting stuck anywhere. For now it wrks anyway, as he gets older he will want to move around a bit to get comfy like we adults do. He is sleeping much better on his side these days.
If he grows out of this reflux business in the near future I would consider another baby.. could do with a year of good sleeps though first! :sleeping:
**** I have washing to fold.. a few piles of stuff to sort through and put away...sheets to change....bathrooms to clean....but don't feel like doing any of it! Might be a good time to organise a cleaner, I have been meaning to do that for a month!!! Just for a few hours a week to do bathrooms, toilets, oven and floors. Can't really be bothered enough to make a phone call right now either! I might tackle a glass of wine and sit on my butt instead!:D xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

RB I tried my flat pillow in Noahs cot

[Nan]

Hey girls! Hope you're all having a good Wednesday. Hugs to everyone who has rain at their house. Its lovely and sunny here & I even felt hot this morning. Weird! Car news: We put a deposit down on a new car yesterday and pick it up tomorrow. Our insurance company gave us a really good price for the old car, so we're happy we don't have to borrow as much $$ for the new one. Well, its not really new, but has only done 8,000kms. Its a Holden Epica........bit smaller than a Commodore, so cheaper to run but with a great amount of boot space for all the kids 'stuff'!! This was my main criteria when we were looking around! lol

But . . . .proud mummy moment! - Xav just (awkwardly) picked up her dummy and put it in her mouth! The right way up too! So clever!

Nan - I was wondering about the airbags since you never mentioned them. I was going to ask if they 'hurt' you!

Sometimes I have a mouth on me that would surprise even Gordon I think! I must control it before Xav learns her mother is a crack pot!
Yay for Xav! That is a VERY handy skill to have!! Yeah, the airbags thing is a complete mystery, but most people at the crash repairers said they reckon its because I didn't hit the tree in the middle at the front. I hit it more on my side.......strange as I would have thought that would make it deploy even more. Oh well. Crack pot?? What type of crack are we referring to here?!!!! :laughing:

...... so I'm constantly putting her back on her back only to turn around and find her on her tummy again.
Oh how annoying! I remember Eden doing this! Not looking forward to doing it again.

Just had to say I'm so happy Luca went to bed at 7pm and woke at 4.15am! Then went back to sleep till 7.30am!!!
GOOD BOY LUCA!!!! :yelclap:

I had my first counselling session today and it went really well. She wanted to know my history again, even though I'd gone through it on my introductory session, I just wanted to say "fix me already!!".

He has, however, stopped rolling! Has anyone else's bubs done this?
So glad you feel it went well. Yeah, it would be hard. Sometimes I just want a 'quick fix' too! :o Caleb has stopped rolling too. He did it a couple of times last week and has stopped, but I figure its because they are learning something else. They'll come back to it later.

Oh, just wanted to add, I started MJ on a kiddy multivitamin & it really seems to have helped with her moods. She's a lovely, friendly little girl again!!
Oh, I'm so pleased. I do love a good multivitamin success story!! :laughing: Sorry to hear about asleep school. Like they said both of you have to be ready and if Ani is struggling so much & you are getting heartbroken, then leaving it for a while is probably good. I just hope you are ok in the mean time. Oh and with Foxtel, make sure you ring them and refuse to pay for the full month. If you haven't had coverage every day then you are well within your rights to. :thumbsup:

....... have to get into a routine of taking the vitamins.

What are you all up to today?
You said it!! Routine vitamin taking is the key. A lot of people get sick then take them and wonder why they 'don't work'. Its because you have to take them at those levels when you're healthy to build yourself up & take even more when you're unwell. Good on you!! I suck them like lollies too! Today we had a play date with my best friend and her kids, then I have a chiro appointment to get to soon, then going for tea at my friend's (same one) again. We do this thing with two other couples where we each do a meal and have the others over every Tuesday or Wednesday. Its great coz 2 Tuesdays a month I don't have to make tea!!!

tally - Those pics of Ry are so cute! He has lovely piercing eyes. Very handsome.

AB - The Christening sounds lovely. Glad it was a nice time for you.

Sandra - Its so awful when they have to intentionally hurt bubs isn't it? Eden's 1st trip to the Chiro was like that as she hated all the spine feeling, but she's a pro now! Caleb was too young to know what was going on!!! I'm hoping that's a good thing!

Anyway, I'm off to get a cuppa while two babies are snoozing & Shane is playing computer games. Haha! Aaahhhhhh holidays! Very excited to get my car tomorrow :smiliedance: ................

[Nan]

Now, I am just trying to hold him for a couple of mins then try him in bed first with a pat, ut if he gets really distressed I pick him up.. as crying & distress can provoke reflux as well grrrrrr.
Really? I never knew that. Poor thing. Sounds like a vicious cycle. :thumbsdown:

[Vespera]

He has, however, stopped rolling! Has anyone else's bubs done this?

Yes! Connor started rolling from his front to his back but hasnt done it in about 6 weeks now. Weird.....

[melbryan]

Hugs to all those ladies having probelms with sleeping it is an ongoing battle but will get better soon I hope.

Anyone giving there a bubs a 1/2 old birthday. We just sing to him at dinner "Happy birthday' no food and he canhave a little gift for making it to 6mths. Ashton is really an angel, so quiet never had one of those before.

Congrats on your new car. SOunds flash.

Mrs S- nice to see you on facebook.

RB- I have put both my boys on Incremin and it is awsome, better moods allround.

Dh gave me the go ahead on one more ( baby) so we will try for a girl, but if it's another boy he gets to name it. He said we won't ever get to go on a holiday- well, I can't now anyway so what does it matter????? So that's exciting news for me as I thought 2 was the end. I love my going to be big family, I know our house is going to be very busy but i love it.

Here's a house on the net. Looking for a buyer!!!!
My hubby is a gardener, I bet you can tell. He is manic about his lawn he's been mowing it in the rain.:laughing:
http://www.hiltonparkes.com.au/index.cfm?pagecall=property&propertyID=810374&realestate=HASSALL_GROVE_NSW_2761

[Kizmet]

just had to post a quick one

Mel is that your house youre selling???

If so it is a gorgeous kitchen!

[melbryan]

just had to post a quick one

Mel is that your house youre selling???

If so it is a gorgeous kitchen!

Yep you won't believe this but we bought that kitchen on ebay ($600)!! Hubby arrange the cupboards we knocked out a wall and voila some appliances and a new kitchen. We bought the benchtop and appliances though.

[kaybee]

Hi Girls, haven't been on for about 4-5 days and you girls have not stopped chatting, it's taken me ages to catch up! Too much has happened for me to do much in the way of personals, just a few:

Nan - how scary! Glad you all came out of it okay
RB - so sorry to hear that Sleep School wasn't very successful! A mother in my mother's group had a sleep nurse come to the house for 5 hours and her son beat the nurse, he refused to sleep and she tried everything!
Ves - it was me (well actually bub) who had the lump in the nipple. Thanks for the info. We saw GP on Monday for Vax and he checked it and said that it was nothing to worry about, and if it gets sore or bigger to come in as it could be a blocked duct.
Sands - I used to watch BB but went off it last year, started to get v.boring. It will be interesting to see if the changes will improve it. Pity about Kyle being a host though, I really can't stand him.
Thanks all for the birthday wishes. DH cooked me a yummy breakfast and looked after Bub while I went and had a massage - lovely.

Well things have been a little better this week so far :fingerscrossed: Only 2-3 times a night for the last 3 nights! And they've only been a little grizzle that a few pats and reinsertion of dummy have fixed quick smart. My cold has gone and the feeding has nearly gone back to normal!:smiliedance:

She had her Vax Monday and was a very brave girl this time, only cried for about 30 sec. Her stats are 6.7kg and 67.5cm!! She's 5 months today, and a tall skinny thing! I thought with all that feeding she must be having a growth spurt! She's now at the 95 percentile for height!:eek:

Lots of these :hugs::hugs: to those with sick Bubs!

Mel - you crazy girl - 4!!! I have been thinking about when to start for the next one myself. I think around 2.5 yr gap would be good. God I never thought I would be having a baby at 35! When I was younger I thought I'd have 2 kids by the time I was like 30!

Speaking of blocked ducts, I've got one myself on the right side! It's v.ouchie when I try and massage it! it's like this chain of large lumps down from my collarbone.

Well I'm off to have shower b4 little miss needs her final feed or I might watch At the Movies. Bye

[sandralee]

:crying:Night from hell here, lol, just for something different! :D Was making trips to the nursery half hourly-hourly from the moment I put him to bed. This week is going to feel like a year, as it takes 5days for this new dose of losec to start taking effect - but at least I will have Steve home for a few days.. and 2nd visit to osteo on saturday. Some have success with osteos, and others with chiros, so that will be the next step for me - will try anything! Steve is against chiros cos he thinks they are bone crunchers, but he doesn't know that their treatments can be rather gentle. (and I don't think I will be sneaking around behind his back if h doesn't agree, cos we don't have secrets, so I would like to think that he will soften to the idea)
Going to take the little man out for some retail therapy - there is a new bright bots boutique at browns plains - and takes us 30mins in the car, so that will give him 2 sleeps without me having to worry about him screaming. He had a rough night, so this morning when I took him in for a sleep he screamed for 20mins (with me holding him) cos he associated sleep with pain.
It is going to take me a long time to relax and sleep once his reflux is under control, lol, my body is constantly in panic control just waiting for the next scream!
It is such a beautiful day today!!!! When we get home later, I'd love to take him for a walk in the pram if it isn't too hot. Andrew is obsessed with his baby brother, he was begging me yesterday to take Noah for walks in the pram every arvo.. and the whole time Noah is awake (which is a lot hehe) when Ands is hme, he is all over him! Kissing him, reading to him, playing with his hair, watching me feed him - and he says to me "mum I just can't get enough of him!" It really is so cute to watch! Sometimes I feel sorry for Noah though, so I have to tell Andy to give him some space for a few mins when he gets claustrophobic. :D
Noah looks like he is having another 'long' sleep this morning, he has been asleep now for 70mins which is massive for him lol! :yelclap:
Time to go and raid the coffee machine so I have the energy to keep up with him when he wakes.. is it too early for wine Shana? LOL!! Nah, just kidding cos I have to drive.
Lots love to everyone, and those of you with bubs who sleep - count your blessings cos you are soooooooooooo lucky!!!!! XXXXXXXXXX

[MrsScatterbrain]

He WILL NOT settle in the cot, just screams & screams, & its not just a little one, its a full on, red faced/blotchy skin & eyes, sweaty scream. Its heart breaking to hear.

:hugs: Thomas sometimes gets like that - I find if I give him a bath it really calms him down and changes his frame of mind. (Not always practical, I know!) Do you co-sleep at night? If so, maybe he's scared on his own? You could also try the tried and tested worn t-shirt trick to make him feel more 'at home'.


Was so horrible to watch him push Noahs stomach around to make him reflux (just to make sure that he really did have reflux) and he just screamed and screamed. EW!!

Hugs, Sands, that sounds awful. I remember the doc doing the same to Thomas' eye duct when it was blocked, I just wanted to shout "STOP, you crazy man!!":laughing: I guess its short term pain for a long term diagnosis and relief.


We put a deposit down on a new car yesterday and pick it up tomorrow. Our insurance company gave us a really good price for the old car, so we're happy we don't have to borrow as much $$ for the new one. Well, its not really new, but has only done 8,000kms. Its a Holden Epica........

Oh yay! :smiliedance: Enjoy!


Yes! Connor started rolling from his front to his back but hasnt done it in about 6 weeks now. Weird.....

Glad I'm not the only one!!



Mrs S- nice to see you on facebook.

Dh gave me the go ahead on one more ( baby) so we will try for a girl, but if it's another boy he gets to name it.


Its been so lovely to put faces to names! :goodvibes:

Gosh, you are so brave going for another one! Wow! Lots of girly baby dust to you!!


Her stats are 6.7kg and 67.5cm!! She's 5 months today, and a tall skinny thing! I thought with all that feeding she must be having a growth spurt! She's now at the 95 percentile for height!

Wow! That's incredible! Are you or your DH tall? Thomas is tall and skinny, too - I hope he gets a big chubbier soon!


Last night I tried to drop Thomas' dreamfeed - total disaster! :laughing: I popped in to check on him, and he still had his dummy from his evening settle - so I took it out, but he woke up and started crying! I didn't want to put the dummy back, so I gave in and fed him (I felt cruel not feeding him as his body was telling him it was time for a feed!) I had given him half, and he was nicely settled, so I thought that's still an improvement if I can put him down only half fed, but I had a coughing attack and he was startled and woke up and wanted his second half! :laughing: It was a comedy of errors! I just need to work out how to get rid of the dummy for his evening settle - he's so tired he needs something extra. Hmmm ... I might feed him back to sleep - no worse than the dummy I hope!

If I try to settle him/calm him down in my arms he gets really upset and angry! Its really strange, I think when he's rocked in my arms he knows its time for bed and rebels! Ah these kids, I don't know!

This afternoon a friend is coming over on a day off work and we're all going to the Children's Farm, so that should be fun - DS1 will be in seventh heaven!

Have a good one everyone!

[MrsScatterbrain]

:crying:Night from hell here, lol, just for something different! :D Was making trips to the nursery half hourly-hourly from the moment I put him to bed.

Oh Sands, I just saw this one! :hugs: What a night.

That is so gorgeous how Andrew loves Noah - can you have a sleep while Andrew takes Noah for a walk?

I think midday is 'beer o'clock', but for Mums it is earlier!! :laughing: How about a good coffee with a little spash of something! :p

[sandralee]

p.s. I am not complaining, I am just teliing it how it is.....:D :DAnd yes, I am still contemplating another baby after all this hehe! Keep thinking, if it has been this bad for me, it would have to be much worse for Noah cos he can't speak to us and tell us what is going on for him! If only, lol...

p.p.s. Does anyone else's baby get hyper from panadol??? I have noticed it every single time with Noah. So funny, cos he is in the minority with everything it seems! Osteos say that most babies will sleep better after appts, while a 'minority' will be more unsettled than normal lol!! Same with vacc reactions... same with paracetamols that are meant to relax them a bit..... what gives?!?!?! xx

[kaybee]

:crying:Night from hell here, lol, just for something different! :D Was making trips to the nursery half hourly-hourly from the moment I put him to bed.

It must have been the night for it, as after 3 good nights, Ava had a bad one too, up every hour! At 3am it was a screamer, DH got up and I could hear him losing it, as she wouldn't stop, so I got up and took over. I keep explaining to him that it's usually wind pain, so you need to settle her sitting up-right in your arms not cradling her, but he always forgets.
She's now been sleeping for well over 90 minutes, obviously tired after being up all night (I know the feeling!)




Wow! That's incredible! Are you or your DH tall? Thomas is tall and skinny, too - I hope he gets a big chubbier soon!


If I try to settle him/calm him down in my arms he gets really upset and angry! Its really strange, I think when he's rocked in my arms he knows its time for bed and rebels! Ah these kids, I don't know!


No neither of us are overly tall! I'm nearly 5ft 7 (which is taller than average for a woman) and DH is 5 ft 10.

Ava fights it too sometimes I kinda pin her arms and legs down and keep patting/rocking until she calms. It gets very frustrating doesn't it!

Well I'd better go and unpack the dishwasher b4 she wakes for a feed. Hope everyone has a good day. I am sooo sick of this rain!

[kaybee]

p.p.s. Does anyone else's baby get hyper from panadol??? I have noticed it every single time with Noah. So funny, cos he is in the minority with everything it seems! Osteos say that most babies will sleep better after appts, while a 'minority' will be more unsettled than normal lol!! Same with vacc reactions... same with paracetamols that are meant to relax them a bit..... what gives?!?!?! xx

No I don't think so! She hates the taste of it so much she's only had it about 4 times (cries and spits it out). It doesn't really seem to knock her out all that much though either.

[shymmer]

Morning ladies!

Xav has gone to bed at 9.30pm and risen at 8.30am two night in a row! I am SO impressed! She has been waking around the 3am mark and wanting another bottle only 2.5hrs after the last 200ml. She should be able to hold out for 4hrs or so, but . . . she's not drinking much during the day at all so I guess she's just catching up.

Nan - new car sounds great! And 8000km on the clock is new in my book!!

Rb - hope you had a better afternoon and night.

Melbryan - great work on the kitchen! Good luck with the sale. And yay for a big family!
What a lovely idea to have a 1/2yr birthday! I might do that . . . like I need to a reason to go buy Xav more stuff! :laughing: But we could have a cake and Xav could have a little taste of the cream or somthing!


Kaybee - Ava is a skinny thing! Xav was tapping 8kg a few weeks ago and she is just 5mths!!! And not too tall - 65cm.
Gonna be like me I think. I'm only 5'4". Not a total shorty but not that tall.

I am so naughty . . . I was eating a picnic ice cream and was giving Xav a little taste of it on my finger . . and she would grizzle until I gave her more!!! She was watching me like a hawk! Trust me to make sure that first tooth is a sweet one!

Beautiful day here in Bris. Might take Xav for a walk.

Have a lovely day lovelies!

[shymmer]

Sands - Xav does sleep a bit longer after having pain relief meds. But she absolutely hates the taste of Panandol (cherry flavour? yeah right.) so I've switched to Dymadon - it tastes a bit better (orange) and I can actually get about half the dose in via spoon before she starts spitting it out.

Sorry you girls have had rought nights. :hugs:

OK - gotta run, Xav is starting her engine . . . .

[Rainbowbrite]

Thanks for all the support & encouragement guys :hugs: We don't co-sleep, would rather not do that again. We did it with MJ till she was 18months old. I can't settle when bub is in bed with me, i'm too worried about DH rolling on him etc. I have been cuddling/rocking him to sleep & then trying to transfer him, but 99% of the time he wakes & SCREAMS......BUT......We dropped MJ at preschool today ( I LOVE PRESCHOOL), got home, gave him a bf & put him in the cot awake & played with him.....he went to sleep, no crying, nothing. He's just woken after 40mins, but hey, its something!!!! Last night was not as good as it has been, he was up at 2.30 for a feed, then 4.30 & again at 6.....

Nice house Mel!!!!


Ouch Kaybee, hope you can unblock that duct. Sounds nasty :hugs:

Sands I hope bub is an angel for you today :hugs: Oh & yes, MJ goes ballistic on panadol. It always hypes her up, never settles her down. Ani hates the stuff & holds his breath if I try giving it to him :eek:

Well MJ is at school, Ani is up helping me type & blowing raspberries all over the keyboard :laughing: So I'm off to enjoy the peace & have a day of rest to hopefully kick this cold I have!

[Kittylou]

Dh gave me the go ahead on one more ( baby) so we will try for a girl, but if it's another boy he gets to name it. He said we won't ever get to go on a holiday- well, I can't now anyway so what does it matter????? So that's exciting news for me as I thought 2 was the end. I love my going to be big family, I know our house is going to be very busy but i love it.

That is exciting!!!

Shana, do I recall you saying you are thinking about the next one too now?

When are you thinking? We will start TTCing (god, that sounds funny - we've never actually had to try before) in October and I'm hoping it will happen quickly to fit in with my uni plans. It would be great to get to do the whole pregnancy thing all over again with some of you girls.


:crying:Night from hell here, lol, just for something different! :D Was making trips to the nursery half hourly-hourly from the moment I put him to bed.

Oh Sandra :hugs:!! There's nothing I can even say. I just really feel for you. Whenever I read of you (and Shana) having major sleep problems, the first thing that comes to mind is to offer to come and give you a hand - but then I remember that I actually have my own baby to take care of.

Where in Browns Plains is the Bright Bots shop? I live 5 minutes away from Browns Plains so might go check it out just for somewhere to get out of the house - so sick of being stuck at home this week!!

ETA: Re the panadol, it doesn't make Sophie hyper but it definitely doesn't make her sleepy either.


If I try to settle him/calm him down in my arms he gets really upset and angry! Its really strange, I think when he's rocked in my arms he knows its time for bed and rebels! Ah these kids, I don't know!


Sophie does this too and has since she was about 2 weeks old!! It's so silly (and ubelievable frustrating) because she will only go to sleep being rocked so I don't know why she does it. She's actually just decided that she doesn't like being cradled anymore - I have to hold her so her head is up on my shoulder and her body is diagonal across mine and with my cheek touching hers :rolleyes:!! It's actually really lovely when she starts to nod off but drives me a little bit nuts that she's so fussy!

Well, we had a great night here (sorry Sands). Sophie slept from 10.30pm-7.30am without stirring once. Not sure if it was the vapouriser or not but you can bet I'll be using it religiously until her cold is well and truly gone. She's still pretty snotty today but seems to be in a better mood thank goodness - yesterday was a very clingy day.

Oh, Shana I just remembered you posting about Xav's sleeping - not sure how I missed it when doing my quoting. Well done Xav!!! You mustn't know yourself. Did you manage to get some decent sleep or did your body let you down because it's not used to it?

[westerner]

Goodness i cant catch up... :dizzy:

Need to make sure the thread doesnt get away from me..

I will start again from this post.. lol :o

Kaitlyn is getting so big.. Rolling everywhere, dragging herself along the floor and getting up onto her knees and rocking..

She HATES solids with a passion so is still 100% a boob girl.. Will keep trying them every couple of days..

No teeth yet.. Still no hair.. lol

Great sleeper still at night..
Has been troublesome at times during the day the last week but we have been sick so she is a bit snotted up so not the poor things fault..

Hugs to all.. I promise to keep up.. :yes:

[tally]

Golly, I have been so left behind its not funny. :D

Thank you to everyone for your support.

We've been getting 2hrs sleep straight the last couple of nights.. tis better than nothing.. :confused:

I would still love another baby but Rylan has taken so much out of me its not funny, and I'm not really sure I could go through the Hypermesis again with a baby that already doesnt sleep, then have a newborn and no sleep. I have to have bloods taken soon to see if its even possible to try again, but my FS booked us in in Sept to start ivf again if we choose to go ahead but at this stage its a big nooooo... I'm just scared that if I dont I will regret it for the rest of my life. I hate being on such a strict time limit.

Hopefully all are little darling start behaving and sleeping better very soon..

[Vespera]

For those having probs with panadol - we use the Brauers Pain and Fever relief and Connor loves the taste! Much more mild and less synthetic than panadol and works just as well.

My mums coming to visit! She will be here in about 3 hours and the house is a tip! Ooops might have to work on that

[Nan]

No, no Vespera!!! Leave it in a mess and she can help you clean it!! :laughing: That's what I do.........my MIL is also a great clothes folder. :thumbsup: hehe

mel - That's a lovely looking home you have there. I hope you get a good price for it. Good luck. Its such a stressful time........making sure everything stays spotless!! Oh gaaawwwwd! You poor thing!

Sands - More :hugs: hun! Panadol.......hmmmm....never given it to him as he hasn't needed it yet........I know, I know.........I'll go crawl back under my 'I have a perfect child' rock! JUST KIDDING! He's not perfect, but don't worry. I DO count my blessings every day.......every time I look at him actually. :p (and I think of all you girls doing it tougher than me........then I wonder at the big man upstairs for being so unfair.......then I think I shouldn't do that coz he'll strike me down with lightening!!!)

:hugs: to all who are sleep deprived. We have some 'spirited' bubs on this thread don't we??!

Yay Goose!! Hope to catch you more often! Sounds like miss K is doing so well.

kaybee - That's tall to me!!!! Then again everyone is tall to me. I'm 5'2"!!! lol

Shana - That is SO GREAT about Xav's sleeping. I hope a corner has been turned. Keep it up little girl. :wizard:

I know I've missed people & I'm sorry. I have to get ready to go pick up the new car. Chat again soon.

[kaybee]

OMG!!:eek:

My little girl has got a tooth!! :yelclap:

Since the weekend I've seen what looked like 2 little white bits under the skin on her bottom gum at the front, but it's hard to see as whenever I try and look in her mouth she always puts her tongue in the way! When we saw the GP on Monday, he tried to look and she wouldn't let him either!
Anyway, I thought I would try and have another look this arvo, but I couldn't see properly so put my finger in to run along the gum and found a sharp bit! So pushed her tongue out of the way and there is a tooth poking through at the front on her right side!!

I'm happy but sad at the same time, my little girl is growing so fast!:(

Funny thing also, I've been told it's an old wives tale, but she has had bad nappy rash for the first time ever, the last couple of days. She's also been sucking her bottom lip in and out all the time, and kind of grinding her gums together.

Well anyway had to share my little girls milestone!:D

[sandralee]

No worries Nan - I am GLAD that some of you guys have babies who sleep!!! I wouldn't wish this on anyone! just became the 'norm' in our house until last week when red flags started going off for me. After a massive scream when I tried to put him down at 12.30 - he finally stopped scratching my face off at 1.15pm and slept for 2.5hours!!! His biggest natural record since his 'swing days'... I think the angel must have heard my prayers cos I was in tears with him! Since then I have had 2 glasses of wine and feel much more relaxed and happy to see him again. Sad I know, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[AliyahBlake]

I think midday is 'beer o'clock', but for Mums it is earlier!! How about a good coffee with a little spash of something!
I LOVE the way you think, Mrs S!!! I'll have a shot of Baileys in mine thanks:laughing:




Gonna be like me I think. I'm only 5'4". Not a total shorty but not that tall.

I'm the same height as you! Looks like my kids will take after Craig's height thank goodness - he's 6 foot 5 and I think my kids will tower over me! Not hard though :D



She hates the taste of it so much she's only had it about 4 times (cries and spits it out). It doesn't really seem to knock her out all that much though either.
I think my kids are druggies :laughing: Both of them love panadol and nurofen and I never have a prob with them spitting it out!


No, no Vespera!!! Leave it in a mess and she can help you clean it!! :laughing: That's what I do.........my MIL is also a great clothes folder.


:yes: Oh I agree! My MIL is great at that too!!


My little girl has got a tooth!!

:smiliedance: Woohoo go Ava!! I think Blake might not be too far behind her - I can feel a little sharp point on the bottom gum today, and he has been teething severely for about a week. He even has a little cold, which is what happened when Aliyah's teeth finally came through.

Anyway, I finally have some christening pics for you all -

Blake's candle (http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l205/nicmillard/?action=view&current=Christening037copy.jpg)

Water on the head! (http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l205/nicmillard/?action=view&current=Christening011copy.jpg)

Blake's godmother (my sister) (http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l205/nicmillard/?action=view&current=Christening014copy.jpg)

Blake's godfather (Craig's brother) (http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l205/nicmillard/?action=view&current=Christening020copy.jpg)

The two families (http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l205/nicmillard/?action=view&current=Christening038copy.jpg)

Anyway, there's heaps more on Facebook (or there will be once I put them on!) so have a look if you're there. Speaking of Facebook - did you know you can live chat now? Tally and I discovered that today and had a nice little chat. Look down on the bottom right of your screen and you'll see the chat icons!!

[perrywinkle]

OMG!!:eek:

My little girl has got a tooth!! :yelclap:

Since the weekend I've seen what looked like 2 little white bits under the skin on her bottom gum at the front, but it's hard to see as whenever I try and look in her mouth she always puts her tongue in the way! When we saw the GP on Monday, he tried to look and she wouldn't let him either!
Anyway, I thought I would try and have another look this arvo, but I couldn't see properly so put my finger in to run along the gum and found a sharp bit! So pushed her tongue out of the way and there is a tooth poking through at the front on her right side!!

I'm happy but sad at the same time, my little girl is growing so fast!:(

Funny thing also, I've been told it's an old wives tale, but she has had bad nappy rash for the first time ever, the last couple of days. She's also been sucking her bottom lip in and out all the time, and kind of grinding her gums together.

Well anyway had to share my little girls milestone!:D

Oh YAY!!! We have seen two little dots on Alices gums too. And she's grinding her gums too especially between my nipple! I don't think we are too far off getting a tooth.

AB - great photo's! Your hubby is very tall isn't he!!! Will have a look at the rest on face book later on tonight. I would love to chat to you all on FB but I just don't have the time at night - need to study!! Grrr!!

:hugs: to all those who have grumpy bubs right now and :fingerscrossed: they all sleep well tonight

[AliyahBlake]

Oh YAY!!! We have seen two little dots on Alices gums too. And she's grinding her gums too especially between my nipple! I don't think we are too far off getting a tooth.

OMG YES!!! Blake's doing that too! It bloody hurts when he bites, and I'm dreading him getting teeth through. Aliyah did the same thing and I ended up weaning her (and I also went back to work at that time too) but I want to BF Blake for at least 12 months if I can so I'm just going to have to put up with the biting I guess.

Good luck with the study PW!

Night night - I'm off to bed as I'm sure my little fellow will want his usual midnight feed! :rolleyes:

[shymmer]

Shana, do I recall you saying you are thinking about the next one too now?
When are you thinking? We will start TTCing (god, that sounds funny - we've never actually had to try before) in October and I'm hoping it will happen quickly to fit in with my uni plans. It would be great to get to do the whole pregnancy thing all over again with some of you girls.

Sophie doesn't like being cradled anymore - I have to hold her so her head is up on my shoulder and her body is diagonal across mine and with my cheek touching hers !!

Oh, Shana I just remembered you posting about Xav's sleeping - not sure how I missed it when doing my quoting. Well done Xav!!! You mustn't know yourself. Did you manage to get some decent sleep or did your body let you down because it's not used to it?

Kittylou - If I keep Implanon in I was thinking TTC in November - give my body a year recovery. If I get it taken out I'll just time around Ov until Nov . . but anything can happen. It would be great to go through it all with some of you wonderful women again!
Shhhh - I haven't spoken to Dh about this yet!:laughing:
As far as me sleeping . . . I'm getting about 5hrs broken sleep in, but yeah, my body isn't used to it and I lie awake from about 3am to 6am.



I would still love another baby but I'm not really sure I could go through the Hypermesis again with a baby that already doesnt sleep, then have a newborn and no sleep. I have to have bloods taken soon to see if its even possible to try again, but my FS booked us in in Sept to start ivf again if we choose to go ahead but at this stage its a big nooooo... I'm just scared that if I dont I will regret it for the rest of my life. I hate being on such a strict time limit.quote]

Tally that must be so frustrating to have so many other things involved in your decision. I had HG too and that is what I am most scared of - a toddler and being so sick I can't function! A friend of mine works for a endocronologist (sp?)and she is getting Zofran(best anti-nausea tabs available) for her m/s (and her's is mild). So I will go and see her Doc as soon as I get a BFP. Zofran is extortional though, but my friends gets it for about $30 (normally $150) through her health cover. So I'm thinking I might have to get private health cover the next time too - just to afford it. :yes:

[quote=kaybee;2592025]OMG!!:eek:

My little girl has got a tooth!! :yelclap:

Yay! That's exciting!
When you say 'grinding her gums' do you mean making an exagerated chewing action? Xav has been dong this the last few days, like she is chewing her cud! I can't feel any teeth though :confused:.


He finally stopped scratching my face off at 1.15pm and slept for 2.5hours!!! His biggest natural record since his 'swing days'... I think the angel must have heard my prayers cos I was in tears with him! Since then I have had 2 glasses of wine and feel much more relaxed and happy to see him again. Sad I know, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Oh, I bet he felt better after that big sleep! Poor little tyke, he must be so exhausted after so many rough nights. And I know you are! I hope he and you get a better nights sleep tonight.
And hey . . . have another wine for me! I just had my front tooth bleached so no wine for me all weekend!!!!!:crying:



I'm the same height as you!


The great thing about having a tall Dh (my Dh is about 6'1") is you can wear three inch heals and they are still taller than you! (I loooove high heals!) I used to wear platforms centuries ago and it was so cool - I was tall for once but not too tall for Dh!

Well dearest ladies . . . have a fantastic long weekend. We are off to the relo's tomorrow to do some reno work on my mum's house and my nephew's 21st.
Can't wait to see you Brisbane girls on Monday!

xxx

[sandralee]

Yes I have Brauers Calm, gave some to Noah before he went to bed (at 5.45pm lol!! I don't care if he wakes early cos Steve will be home!) and he seems more relaxed than usual. I have only had 3 visits to the nursery since then.. o yay lol! I don't think I will ever use panadol again cos it makes him giggle like a stoned maniac, & jumps around in my arms like a frog that has had shots of coffee.
Bright Bots is in the industrial area behind the shopping centre (a couple of streets back just past spotlight etc) near The Baby Superstore & Fernwood Gym. It is fairly small but everything is set out in sections (000,0,1 etc) and very reasonably priced. I was only in there for a few mins but still managed to spend $100 lol. They have some cute little cotton sleeping bags, Max & Tilly stuff, baby ugh boots with velcro so you can fit their feet in, hats and beanies etc I think it must be a factory outlet like the one they have at stafford, as everything (everywhere) seem to be marked down. They also sell bright bots stuff at trade secret in case you didn't know. I didn't know you lived so close - takes me 30mins to get there, but I like that distance cos the drive time is equivalent to one of Noahs sleeps LOL.. and one or two less sleeps that I have to put him down for at home.
WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING UNREAL?!?!?! I was at my wits end this arvo, had to walk outside and take a deep breath cos nothing I was doing could calm Noah down.. now I am not a religious person, but I have never said so many prayers before!! So I am outside praying for nothing short of an urgent miracle.... then came back inside and went back into the nursery cos I had recharged a bit after a few mins of fresh air... when he fell sound asleep in my arms (instantly) AND PROCEEDED TO SLEEP FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS in his cot without any 'help.' Now that is something that just doesn't happen around here! Trouble is, I kept expecting him to wake after the 30min mark.. so didn't get much done except for having a couple of glasses of wine lol. (gotta get my priorities right here) Oh, and he hadn't had the brauers mix back then either lol....
But alas.. all good things come to an end.. I have written this over a couple of hours, and have had quite a few sudden screams coming from Noah's room. At least I have my 'wing man' for the next few days!
'Lots of love and good nights sleep for everyone' vibes! Sands xox xox xox xox:hugs:

[sandralee]

OMG I am so tired I think I repeated myself in 2 separate posts LOL!!! :DI have to go to bed I think! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[Moops]

Hi guys

Sorry I'm too tired to go through and multiquote!

Nan - Luca has been eating 4 hourly for a while now, do you think it is too early? He doesn't seem starving by the next feed though. Luca has been sleeping better but still waking for no apparent reason, he just needs resettling then he goes back off again. The other night DH fed him at 3am and he went to sleep then he started crying so DH went back in and he was on his tummy looking at the door and started laughing when he saw his Dad - what a cheeky monkey!

Just a quick one, we measured Luca yesterday and he was 70cm! He is in the 98th percentile for height! I have absolutely no idea where he gets it from, DH and I are both shorties! He'll probably stop growing when he is 12!

:hugs: for all of those who are doing it tough, I had a severe case of the blues when I woke up this morning. The thought of another bad day and night made me feel ill but after copious amounts of caffiene I'm feeling a little better.

Melbryan - Nice house! Why are you selling? Hope it isn't to fund the next bub lol!

[shymmer]

I stand by my theory - when one bub sleeps another won't! So Sorry to those whom Xav stole the sleep off!! (Noah? Luca?) . . . She slept from 8pm to 7am!!!! And only two bottles, 10.30pm and 1.45am! She woke me at 7am and I thought . . . OMG - I just got a good 4hrs straight sleep!!!!
Thank goodness too - no caffine/alcohol for me this weekend.

Moops I read when they are 4mths onwards they can feed 4hrly. But if they stop sleeping well it could be b/c they are still hungry/growth spurt etc and need some more tucker. So you'd go back to feeding 3hrly or have a higher food consumption at 4hrly. One way or other increase the calorie intake. I think, anyway.

Well Xav is weighing in at 8.42kg (had a reasonably dry nappy on I think). So while a lot of your bubs are getting longer . . . Xav-babe is getting wider! Relo's have complained for a while now about how heavy she is to hold -like after 5mins, and you know what? All I can think is - get some muscles you weaklings!!!!! I can hold her for hours, what's wrong with these people?? Only a few (who are absolutley smitten with her) go on that she is perfect and never complain.

Ok, best be gone and get some washing done before we nick off out of town for the weekend. Lovely Autumn day here in Bris . . makes me reaslise how short stocked I am on Winter clothes for Xav!

[Rainbowbrite]

Oh Kaybee how exciting!!! I don't think Ani will be far behind. He was so unsettled last night, kept screaming & biting his hands that much he was hurting his hands :( I gave him Curash teething Gel & ended up giving him Panadol he was that upset.

AB they are gorgeous shots!!

PW, i'm the same. Night is for sleeping & enjoying the peace when both kids are asleep.....when they are both asleep :p

Shana, I get the same about Ani, & he's not that big!

I haven't measured his height for a while, but did compare him to my friends 12month old last weekend.........he is only about 5cm shorter!!! He is the same height at 3 months that my now 18month old nephew was at that age.....my nephew is now 6foot 3 :eek: I'm 5"7 & DH is 6"1, so he's gonna be a big boy.

I'm getting tempted to try solids.......Ani is copying everything, stealing food out of my hand & off my plate, moving his mouth in a chewing motion, feeding heaps.....I just don't know though. Part of me doesn't want to, just to keep him a baby for longer iykwim.

[Lozie]

Hi gals
So hard to keep up these days,
I'll just be quick and up date Balins stats an tell ya's what he has been doing.
He had his needles last week, and not much of a reaction surprisingly any way he wieghts 7.5kgs and is 69cm long with Head-circ of 44cm, He's big for his age he'll be 5 months on sunday, i think i told you's last time he had lost he voice well the doc rekons it's from his squealing lol so slowly his voice is coming back, we hit a milestone on monday he started sitting on his own and now goes from sitting to his knee and rocks but hasnt figured out how to get back to sitting so he ends up in his fly possie on the floor lol, he's rocking heaps and hops sorta till his knee are almost touching his arm then falls cause he still hasnt worked out how to move his arm, so cute he has been missing the boys when they go to kindy he looks around for them for ages then i ask him where they are and he scoots around in his walker looking for them and when they get home he gets so excited, he knows who is who too he loves Jacy to peices and find Caleb hilarious lol, he says mumma almost but Dadda is much clearer cause daddy has been brainwashing him lol.
And he is full on the bottle finally it only took me like 3 months lol and my milk was starting to dry anyway so i', on a full strength pill so i'm happy, Teething is annoying too he had a horrid night last night he teeth are coming thru so daddy was up with him i had a smashing head ache, but all in all he is a great baby always smiley and talks heaps, never shuts up.
well hope you are all well have to run Jacy and Caleb are ripping each other apart, I will try to keep up with you all..Take care:hugs:

[perrywinkle]

I'm getting tempted to try solids.......Ani is copying everything, stealing food out of my hand & off my plate, moving his mouth in a chewing motion, feeding heaps.....I just don't know though. Part of me doesn't want to, just to keep him a baby for longer iykwim.

We are going to try some food today. I made up some pumpkin and sweet potato yesterday and will see how she goes today at lunch time. I'm not sure how she's going to go swallowing it because she's difficult to give panadol never swallows it so we'll see how we go.

[tally]

I'm getting tempted to try solids.......Ani is copying everything, stealing food out of my hand & off my plate, moving his mouth in a chewing motion, feeding heaps.....I just don't know though. Part of me doesn't want to, just to keep him a baby for longer iykwim.

Thats exactly what Ry was doing and after a couple of weeks we gave in. We started light, rice cereal but we think he had issues with that so the last couple of days we gone onto banana custard and by gee does he devour that. Hes only having a tablespoon a day atm but you should see his excitement when he knows its coming. Its so cute.

Just start of with something light, hes not too far off 6mths now.. our gp was all for it too, especially given what hes been like. You can always try and if you're not happy take him off again.

I've been through many phaises of whats the right age to feed your baby and honestly say it depends on the baby as to what is the correct age. Some can handle it earlier than others. My 2nd bub didnt start solids till he was 7mths and that was when 4mths was the rec.

Just go with what you think is right, I'm pretty sure starting Rylan was the right thing after a slightly rocky start.

:flowerz:

[AliyahBlake]

Yeah, I agree Tally. I would never have thought I'd be starting Blake on solids at 4 months, but I just had to or he would've started eating his own hands!! He loves his food now, but I'm still careful not to give him too much at once, as he still needs the breastmilk. Blake loves most of the foods I've tried him on, but isn't real keen on apple (he pulls a face like he's just sucked on a lemon when he eats it!!). He might be like his Dad, as Craig doesn't go for sweet things much - likes savoury more.

[Nan]

"They shall not grow old as we that are left grow old. Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them."

:flowerz: HAPPY ANZAC DAY EVERYONE!! :flowerz:

Don't forget to fly your flags with pride and raise your glasses of Chardy to all those who have gone before us in the tragedy of war, to make this awesome country what it is today.......FREE!


My little girl has got a tooth!!

Funny thing also, I've been told it's an old wives tale, but she has had bad nappy rash for the first time ever, the last couple of days.
Oh YAY! She is growing up isn't she? That's not an old wives tale by the way. Classic signs of teeth coming are nappy rash, runnier poos, runny noses & pink cheeks.

WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING UNREAL?!?!?! I was at my wits end this arvo, had to walk outside and take a deep breath cos nothing I was doing could calm Noah down.. now I am not a religious person, but I have never said so many prayers before!! So I am outside praying for nothing short of an urgent miracle.... then came back inside and went back into the nursery cos I had recharged a bit after a few mins of fresh air... when he fell sound asleep in my arms (instantly) AND PROCEEDED TO SLEEP FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS in his cot without any 'help.'
Hey Sands! That is AWESOME!!! :smiliedance: I'm religious (Christian), so it doesn't really surprise me! lol I think its great. It really helps calm ME down too. You know what? I say prayers with both of my babies before they go to bed.....every single sleep......and I believe in my heart that it helps them. Give it a try......anyone can pray & what have you got to lose?!! (That's what I figure!)

Nan - Luca has been eating 4 hourly for a while now, do you think it is too early? He doesn't seem starving by the next feed though. Luca has been sleeping better but still waking for no apparent reason, he just needs resettling then he goes back off again.
That's really good!! Don't forget that his body is used to getting up, so it may do so for a while, even if he isn't hungry. Its a really positive sign! Hard to say if its too early as some kids respond to 4 hourly earlier quite well, but I'm betting that if you try and squeeze in an extra feed during the day it will work wonders.

I stand by my theory - when one bub sleeps another won't! So Sorry to those whom Xav stole the sleep off!! (Noah? Luca?) . . . She slept from 8pm to 7am!!!! And only two bottles, 10.30pm and 1.45am!

So you'd go back to feeding 3hrly or have a higher food consumption at 4hrly. One way or other increase the calorie intake. I think, anyway.
YAY!!!!!! That's fantastic. I hope things keep going in this direction for you both! I agree with the calorie intake thing too.

.....we hit a milestone on monday he started sitting on his own and now goes from sitting to his knee and rocks but hasnt figured out how to get back to sitting so he ends up in his fly possie on the floor lol, he's rocking heaps and hops sorta till his knee are almost touching his arm then falls cause he still hasnt worked out how to move his arm, so cute.....
Sounds like one very clever little boy, Loz!! Well done little man!

I've been through many phaises of whats the right age to feed your baby and honestly say it depends on the baby as to what is the correct age. Some can handle it earlier than others. My 2nd bub didnt start solids till he was 7mths and that was when 4mths was the rec.
Yeah, I agree. I am a pretty strict 'not until 6 months' mum, but that's easy for me to say because both my kids weren't/aren't interested in it until then. If Caleb was salivating like some of you girls say your kids are, then the likelihood of me giving it a go would be very high.

Anyway, I'm off to watch my beloved Bombers get killed in the AFL. :eek: They might win........they usually do really well on Anzac Day, even when they're in a form slump. I doubt it though. :rolleyes: :hissy: lol

[sandralee]

Nan I say GOd Bless to everyone in our family with Noah every night and ask for specific help for people too. I totally believe in God and the 'higher power' at work in the universe, just meant that I didn't bible bash or go to church every day lol. (or go door to door spreading the word with daisies in my mouth:D) Even Andrew is starting to believe in angels as a lot of stuff has come true for him.. he was quite shocked actually. I made sure that I told him he will only get what is right and good for him though, not 50 sports cars lined up in the driveways or penthouse pets doing his washing or anything lol. I have a special deck of angel cards that I plan to give Noah when he is older, I got them signed by Doreen Virtue.
Well my dad is marching today and I am so proud of him! He is doing it in brisbane this year.
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[AliyahBlake]

I'm the same as you Sands - I am a Christian, but just don't go to church. I believe that I don't have to go to church to have a relationship with God. I pray quite alot, and pretty much everything that I pray for (within reason....I mean, I don't go praying for a million bucks or anything like that!) happens! It's unbelievable! I often ask the Angels and Lord for protection of myself and my family, and the house etc as I'm going to bed. Aliyah is starting to understand things like Easter and Christmas and their proper meanings and she loves going to church with her Nanny. :D

I watched some of the Gallipoli dawn service today on TV - such a beautiful ceremony. Hopefully one day we can get over there for it. It would be so powerful and emotional to be there - especially during the 2 min silence and the Last Post (that brings a tear to my eye every time!). Happy Anzac Day everyone - Lest we Forget.....................

[Moops]

Hi!

Well we had the worst night ever! Luca woke at 1,2,4 and 6, I seriously cannot work this kid out! Shana - that is b!oody fantastic! I agree with your theory as well! My friend also has a Son who is born on the same day as Luca and they seem to take it in turns having a good or bad night!

Sands/Nan - I'm Catholic and have a few religious things in Luca's room to keep him safe. I haven't actually said prayers with him but i think I might start!

Nan/Shana - I think Luca eats quite a lot during the day. He has 7oz at 7am, 7oz at 11am then 2 cubes of vegetable, 7oz at 3pm, then 4-5 tbsp of rice pudding at 5pm and 7-8oz at 7pm. I think if I tried to squeeze another bottle in there he would either not eat his solids or not take as much for his bedtime bottle which I think is the most important one. Who knows, it's so complicated!

Yesterday I tried to put Luca in his pram for the first time, before that he was in his carseat and he absolutely hates it! I'm going to have to persist with it though cos it cost a packet!

I need some advice girls, I'm having trouble with DH. I think I told you about how DH nearly let Luca roll of the changing table, well last night I caught him being really rough with him. He would NEVER do anything to hurt him on purpose but he loses his temper too quickly and is just really careless. I'm scared to leave him alone with Luca because he doesn't watch him properly. I've tried yelling, talking calmly and giving him the silent treatment and it seems to go in one ear and out the other...

Anyhoo, I'm meeting another local mum today she has twin 6 month old boys - I'm already in awe of her and I haven't even met her!

Sweet dreams!xx

[Lozie]

Barging in! Just as i said today Balin hasnt got the hang of crawling yet well i spoke too soon this afternoon he started crawling it's slow and awkward but still crawling! Dh is out with my dad so he's doesnt know yet but Wow at 5 months crawling! The other boys were about 6 1/2 7months when they started rocking and army crawling lol, he is a clever boy, Caleb was encouraging him to crawl and he did :D
Ok gloating over lol still cannot believe it:D

[MrsScatterbrain]

I would still love another baby but Rylan has taken so much out of me its not funny, and I'm not really sure I could go through the Hypermesis again with a baby that already doesnt sleep, then have a newborn and no sleep.

I know the feeling! :o I had morning sickness for 7 months (although thankfully nothing like HG) and it was torture with an active toddler. (At night times I had to smile sweetly at DH to get up to him because I'd end up ill!) Do you think Rylan's sleep will settle down once his reflux has let up a bit?



My little girl has got a tooth!!

Congrats!!



Anyway, there's heaps more on Facebook (or there will be once I put them on!) so have a look if you're there.

I had a sticky beak today - you have two gorgeous kids there!


I stand by my theory - when one bub sleeps another won't! So Sorry to those whom Xav stole the sleep off!! (Noah? Luca?) . . . She slept from 8pm to 7am!!!!

Congrats! That is wonderful! Keep it up Xav!


we hit a milestone on monday he started sitting on his own and now goes from sitting to his knee and rocks but hasnt figured out how to get back to sitting so he ends up in his fly possie on the floor lol,

Thats great! Congrats on the crawling, too! Smart little boys!



Anyway, I'm off to watch my beloved Bombers get killed in the AFL. They might win........they usually do really well on Anzac Day, even when they're in a form slump. I doubt it though.

I can't believe I've found an AFL fan on November Mums! I thought everyone was into NRL (is that right?:laughing:) Essendon is my 'second' team - if that's allowed! :laughing:



I need some advice girls, I'm having trouble with DH. I think I told you about how DH nearly let Luca roll of the changing table, well last night I caught him being really rough with him.

:hugs: Mmmm, not sure what to think about this Moops. Maybe he thinks you don't have to be as careful with boy babies, as compared to girls. Or maybe he thinks Luca enjoys a bit of 'rough and tumble' .. will have to think about his one a bit more. Men have pretty thick skin don't they? I tell DH things a million times, but still no result, grrrr.

Thomas had his first night without a dreamfeed last night! :goodvibes: We woke at 4am for his night feed and was starving! He drank so fast he needed to burp, but couldn't burp because he was crying, and just wanted to get back on the boob! :laughing: Our poor neighbours! Hopefully things will improve as his little tummy adjusts.

I just wanted to ask - for your night routine, do you have feed/bath/top-up, or feed/bath or bath/feed?

Have a great weekend everyone xx

[Nan]

Just as i said today Balin hasnt got the hang of crawling yet well i spoke too soon this afternoon he started crawling it's slow and awkward but still crawling!
See I told you he was clever!!!! :yelclap: The most movement I get out of Caleb is when he rolls onto his side on the change table :rolleyes: or when he's in the jolly jumper!! :laughing:

Nan/Shana - I think Luca eats quite a lot during the day. He has 7oz at 7am, 7oz at 11am then 2 cubes of vegetable, 7oz at 3pm, then 4-5 tbsp of rice pudding at 5pm and 7-8oz at 7pm. I think if I tried to squeeze another bottle in there he would either not eat his solids or not take as much for his bedtime bottle which I think is the most important one. Who knows, it's so complicated!
That IS quite a bit isn't it? When he drinks his bottles, does he leave a bit or drink the lot. If he drinks the lot, I'd up the amount. If he doesn't it would seem he is getting enough in each feed hey? Bizarre! On the DH thing, its so hard sometimes isn't it? I'm sure your DH wouldn't ever do anything silly. You just have to give him more opportunities to do routine things with Luca. I think the more he does, the more patient he'll become coz he'll have a better feel for what's going on iykwim. Its hard though. You just want to step in and say "No not like that. Do it this way!", but you have to bite your tongue. (I need to take my own advice here!! :p)

I can't believe I've found an AFL fan on November Mums! I thought everyone was into NRL (is that right?) Essendon is my 'second' team - if that's allowed!

I just wanted to ask - for your night routine, do you have feed/bath/top-up, or feed/bath or bath/feed?
I'm pretty sure its allowed!! NRL isn't all that big in Adelaide. My 2nd team (not that I would EVER tell DH coz I used to hate them!!) is probably Port (his team).......only because I feel unpatriotic not going for an Adelaide team!! Essendon sucked today, that's for sure. :thumbsdown: I don't bath every night. More like every 2nd or 3rd depending on how chucky he's been! So our night routine is PJs, feed, bed. :baby: That's it!

Cool! A few people on here who believe in God. Now I won't feel like a total freak if I mention him again! Not that I should. People are pretty open minded on here, and I'm accepting of what others think too.

Moops - I hope your meet up goes well today.

Oops! Forgot to say how lovely the Christening pics are, AB.

[MrsScatterbrain]

My 2nd team (not that I would EVER tell DH coz I used to hate them!!) is probably Port (his team).......only because I feel unpatriotic not going for an Adelaide team!! Essendon sucked today, that's for sure. :thumbsdown:

I agree! I used to love Essendon because of Sheeds, but now he's gone, its just not the same - I might need a new second team! :laughing: My first team is already DH's team - Brisbane!

[melbryan]

Congrats on the new tooth Kaybee not yours!! ha ha.

Moops I s'pose just talking your concerns through with DH and letting him know that you have felt uncomfortable with him in certain situations lets him know that he needs to be a ltitel careful. My Dh has a short fuse and Ia m the one with all the patience it will eventually change as my DH has more time for them the older they get.

I was brought up a christian just don't go to church like AB. I believe there is a GOd but DH does not. I am teaching my kids about God even though he doesn't approve.

SL and Moops sorry bubs still isn't sleeping I wish I could come over and help bit far to travel though. I reckon I could work out babies I had Ds1 he was the worst ever.

Ashton is OK and thought i might take his dummy and stop wrapping in one hit before I return ot work on MOnday but i just can't do it he is still my little baby.

Don't know anything about AFL sorry girls. NRL household here.

Wow Loz 3 moving boys, I only have 2.:laughing:Hope you've got locks on your cupboards.

Mum just took DS1 away to Nowra last night so peaceful here but he returned tonight with a red jelly in his stained hands. He turned into a monster, jumping around, screaming, calling out from his bed, whinging, bl**dy mum told her he is off additives. So she gives him coloured stuff. I throw my hands up.:confused:

I did alot of scrapbooking last night and I am still looking forward to my retreat away in June.

Oh Loz I bought this booklet on ebay on concieving a girl maybe will pass it your way when I have finished with it. Talks about diet and ovulation etc. I want to start tracking my cycle next month so I can work out the days. It says people with girls ( the woman doesn't orgasm) so now DH thinks he is kingsh*t, cause his brothers have all girls. I just laughed.

[tally]

!!RYLAN SLEPT FOR 3hrs STRAIGHT LAST NIGHT!!

as you can see we're a tad excited!!! its the longest break we've had in 6mths... he he..

We also follow the AFL... dh's 2nd job is with Port and hes a diehard fan!!... I followed Hawthorn as a kid so its great to see them doing well after all this time. :D Footy is lived, breathed and slept in this house :confused:

Mrs S we're hoping Ry will settle down once the refulx does.. Hes pretty mobile now we just need to get him sititng upright and we should see an improvement. :fingerscrossed:

Not sure if i've said b4, Rylan has been mobile for aver a month now, he doesnt crawl but he pulls himself everywhere, nothing is sacred now..

Gotta go, busy day we're heading home to my Neices Baptism tonight, and we're her godparents so looking foward that and not, its going to muck all the work we've done so far with Rylans sleep.

Have a great weekend everyone!!

[westerner]

Whoo hoo Rylan.. :smiliedance: :sleeping:
Great job little man.. Hope you keep it up tonight for your mummy..



My first team is already DH's team - Brisbane!

Lions are my 2nd team.. lol Cos DP is from Brissie and they are his team..
My team are the Bulldogs.. And arent they doing great.. :p Looking forward to tonights game.. Hopefully they beat the seagulls so i can rub it into my brother.. ;)

Is it wrong that i have lived in WA my entire life but i follow another states footy team.. :laughing: :o
I like to make my own choice..

Hope all the kids behave for the day and you mummies have a great weekend..

[sandralee]

Don't have time to read cos I have to go to bris soon - but NOAH SLEPT FROM 6.30pm - 6.30am and only woke at 4am for a feed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had to go in once an hour after I put him to bed to roll him on his side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am in such a state of shock!!!!!! Meds are finally working yay! Haven't got time to read what I ave missed since last night but will do so as soon as I get back. xxxxxxxxxxxxx :yelclap: I feel fantastic today and that THERE IS HOPE FINALLY!!!!!!!
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[MrsScatterbrain]

!!RYLAN SLEPT FOR 3hrs STRAIGHT LAST NIGHT!!
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NOAH SLEPT FROM 6.30pm - 6.30am and only woke at 4am for a feed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:smiliedance::yelclap::smiliedance::yelclap:

Congrats Tally and Sands!!! I'm so happy for you! Keep it up, kiddos!



Is it wrong that i have lived in WA my entire life but i follow another states footy team..

:laughing: I say no! Follow who you like!!!

Thomas got through his missed Dreamfeed again last night, but strangely enough, I can't sleep! I don't know if it is the lack of wind down I get while I'm feeding him in a dark room, or maybe the fact I'm not getting any of the bf hormones! I then wake up again at his normal feed time of 2/3am as well! I think Mummy needs to adjust more than Thomas!

My two little cherbus are still waking us up for the day at 4.30/5am! I don't know who is waking who, but I do know they are very, very naughty!!! :p As long as they go back down, I'm not completely stressed about it!

[perrywinkle]

!!RYLAN SLEPT FOR 3hrs STRAIGHT LAST NIGHT!!


:smiliedance::smiliedance: That's great news Mandy.

Hopefully he will last a bit longer each night. Have you changed his meds??

[Nan]

I believe there is a GOd but DH does not. I am teaching my kids about God even though he doesn't approve.

I did alot of scrapbooking last night and I am still looking forward to my retreat away in June.

It says people with girls ( the woman doesn't orgasm) so now DH thinks he is kingsh*t, cause his brothers have all girls. I just laughed.
That must be tricky when DH isn't on the same page as you. I'm so jealous of your scrapping retreat. How do you find the time to do any??? I just love it, but have no time lately. I can't find my ultrasound pics of when I was pg with Eden, so I'm at a stand still until I find them. :mad: That's so funny about conceiving girls! I bet he's well pleased with himself!!! My mum gives Eden coloured stuff too, but thankfully she's a nutrition nut, so its only a little bit for treats. :yes:

tally - That is so wonderful that Rylan is moving now......and that he slept!!!! YAY!! I hope you have a nice time tonight.

Is it wrong that i have lived in WA my entire life but i follow another states footy team.
Nope! :no: I've lived in SA all my life & I've been a Bombers fan since I was 11 (because the guy I used to like on Young Talent Time went for them!!). :laughing:

NOAH SLEPT FROM 6.30pm - 6.30am and only woke at 4am for a feed!!
Oh YAY!!! I'm so pleased!!! That's great.

Well, its teeming down with rain here and I LOVE it! We went up to the Barossa for a drive (in the new car!) for my FIL's birthday lunch and it was lovely.......sitting in the warm Hotel, watching the rain outside......just beautiful.

[westerner]

Well, its teeming down with rain here and I LOVE it! We went up to the Barossa for a drive (in the new car!) for my FIL's birthday lunch and it was lovely.......sitting in the warm Hotel, watching the rain outside......just beautiful.

Oooh that sounds divine... Im so jealous..

Anyone watching the footy this arvo....


GO DOGGIES...:smiliedance:

I have my cheese and onion chips and my fruit and nut chocolate and me and the kids are relaxing in the loungeroom... :p

[Moops]

!!RYLAN SLEPT FOR 3hrs STRAIGHT LAST NIGHT!!

That's great Tally! Hope it continues for u! :hugs:



Is it wrong that i have lived in WA my entire life but i follow another states footy team.. :laughing: :o
I like to make my own choice..

Lol I'm from Brisbane but I support St George Illawarra who battered the Roosters!! haha


Don't have time to read cos I have to go to bris soon - but NOAH SLEPT FROM 6.30pm - 6.30am and only woke at 4am for a feed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had to go in once an hour after I put him to bed to roll him on his side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am in such a state of shock!!!!!! Meds are finally working yay! Haven't got time to read what I ave missed since last night but will do so as soon as I get back. xxxxxxxxxxxxx :yelclap: I feel fantastic today and that THERE IS HOPE FINALLY!!!!!!!
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p.s. I am still on for monday, my mum is coming today, a few days earlier so I can drop her off at brows plains shops or something while we have a coffee xxxxxxxxxxxx

That is FANTASTIC Sands!! You feel so great when they finally do a long stretch don't u!? Luca hasn't been sleeping well at all lately but I think it is just his teeth and I know that he can sleep through so I'm just riding this phase out.Have fun at your meet girls!

Thanks for all your support re DH I think he realised that what he did was wrong, he was very nice to Luca yesterday and very sweet during the middle of the night. Just hope it continues!

Talking about sleep deprivation brain, last night I put the kettle in the fridge! :laughing:

Sending heaps of sleepy vibes to all our bubs! :babydust2:xxxx

[Kizmet]

Hey everyone!

remember me :p sorry i havent been posting so much, life's busy and the kids and i are still getting over our colds. The kids are GREAT not sick any more-Rob has the scarce occasional cough but no where near as bad as it was thank god! Me, I wake up feeling like **** and go to bed feeling like **** with moments feeling less **** in between :laughing: I feel great except I cannot get my nose un blocked no matter what i do and it is making me feel bleh. I dont think im contagious any more but it just wont go away :mad:

Ok since I havent posted :

Robbie now sleeps through the night :D he wakes from his last nap at 7:30 and has 'dinner' and a bottle then goes back down at 9:30 - sometimes wakes up at 11:30 for a little bottle but then doesnt wake until about 7-8 the next morning :D so happy! he has done it the last 5 nights so here is hoping it is a new routine for him!

Robbie will hold position on hands and knees now it is so cute but he looks so little! Need to go get him weighed to see if he has put his weight on that he lost while he was sick.

We are religious (catholic) we believe in god but we dont pray regularly or go to church. I used to like going to the christmas eve midnight mass but havent since we had the kids because it is just too much taking them at midnight.

Ok am so buggered and have things to do before cuddling up to john watching a movie while the kids are in bed!

Take care all and I promise to write more often!

[AliyahBlake]

Lol I'm from Brisbane but I support St George Illawarra who battered the Roosters!! haha

Talking about sleep deprivation brain, last night I put the kettle in the fridge! :laughing:

OY!!! No bagging the Roosters thanks......they just had a bit of an off game!!;):D Freddie Fittler will read them the riot act and they'll be firing next week!

I know about the sleep deprivation thing, although it's not as bad now as when Blake was first born! It plays with your mind terribly!

:yelclap:Yay for those who's bubs are starting to sleep better at night. Blake is doing OK - wakes at around 11pm or midnight for a feed, then usually not til around 5am (but last night it was 3am!:rolleyes: ) I wish he would start sleeping through the midnight feed, especially as my maternity leave is almost over, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought he might now that he's on solids - hopefully soon :fingerscrossed:. I'm probably expecting alot because Aliyah slept through from about 10 weeks of age, but then she also had 2 hour day sleeps, which I'm lucky to get once a week from Blake - he still likes his catnaps!

Good to hear Robbie's better now, Kiz........what a relief!

[melbryan]

Goose my DH is at the game tonight so I hope they one( doggies) for my sake.


I am home alone and have put three boys to bed it's 8.20pm so now I am bored. Might get some scrapbooking out and do that.

Had a major cleanup today so feel alittle more in control. Tomorrow I am getting all my stuff ready to go back to work ( school) and start my diet ( taking packed lunches). Only working mon-wed.

No one told me how hard it is to keep a house tidy when your house is on the market with 3 kids. It is certainly a battle.

Ashton has been an angel today, man I couldn't do a non sleeper I did one once and that was bad enough. My ds2 is an awsome sleeper since 15mths we put him in his own big bed and he sleeps from 7pm till 8am in the morning. He has his bottle gets his blanket and you never hear out of him. Must love sleeping like his mum.

Thinking about another baby next year getting preggers say soon and having it next year. The I will have one at school 2010 then two years after that another, then another then another. They should go straight after each other.
I am not telling anyone as I know they will all say blah blah so will keep this one a secret until later on. Not in the modd for others comments. yep I am crazy and I am able to have 4 children if I like. I am a school teacher so am very luck with working hours and holidays. One thing I won't be getting is a bus. I am happy to have my tubes tied on the table after my CS.

Anyway hope you are all wwell tonight and your bubbas are sleeping soundly.

[sandralee]

Well I have caught up but can't remember anything except for the kettle being put in the fridge lol! My mum has just given me an hour long foot rub and exfoliate.... heaven!!! She gives them to me every time she visits and I never want her to stop lol.
Put Noah to bed at 6.30 and haven't been anywhere near the nursery since - my life has done a complete turn around in the last 24hrs. Even if it short lived, I now know tha he is capable of it! Tally it's your turn now - I will send some fuzzy wuzzy sleepy vibes Rykan;s way! Tell him is he doesn't sleep longer soon, that Aunty Sands is going to nick his legwarmers!
Moops your mothers meetings sound like you are internet dating lol, makes me giggle.
nighty night girls, I never know what the night is going to hold so will sleep while I can... and I don;t want to get my hopes up that I will ave another night like last night.
re 5mth horrors: I kept reading that everywhere when I was googling sleep and settling babies... had never heard of it before that, but they said a lot of babies turn ferral for a while at that age with their sleep/and that babies who previously slept through the night suddenly don't. weird.
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[Moops]

Hey everyone!

remember me sorry i havent been posting so much, life's busy and the kids and i are still getting over our colds. The kids are GREAT not sick any more-Rob has the scarce occasional cough but no where near as bad as it was thank god! Me, I wake up feeling like **** and go to bed feeling like **** with moments feeling less **** in between :laughing: I feel great except I cannot get my nose un blocked no matter what i do and it is making me feel bleh. I dont think im contagious any more but it just wont go away

Ok since I havent posted :

Robbie now sleeps through the night :D he wakes from his last nap at 7:30 and has 'dinner' and a bottle then goes back down at 9:30 - sometimes wakes up at 11:30 for a little bottle but then doesnt wake until about 7-8 the next morning so happy! he has done it the last 5 nights so here is hoping it is a new routine for him!

Robbie will hold position on hands and knees now it is so cute but he looks so little! Need to go get him weighed to see if he has put his weight on that he lost while he was sick.

We are religious (catholic) we believe in god but we dont pray regularly or go to church. I used to like going to the christmas eve midnight mass but havent since we had the kids because it is just too much taking them at midnight.

Ok am so buggered and have things to do before cuddling up to john watching a movie while the kids are in bed!

Take care all and I promise to write more often!

Hey Kate great to hear from you. So happy that little Robbie is feeling better. Luca is on his hands and knees now I don't think it will be long before he's crawling!


OY!!! No bagging the Roosters thanks......they just had a bit of an off game!!;):D Freddie Fittler will read them the riot act and they'll be firing next week!

I know about the sleep deprivation thing, although it's not as bad now as when Blake was first born! It plays with your mind terribly!

Haha sorry forgot you were a Roosters fan, I'm just excited because it's one of the only games we've won this season!!


Thinking about another baby next year getting preggers say soon and having it next year. The I will have one at school 2010 then two years after that another, then another then another. They should go straight after each other.
I am not telling anyone as I know they will all say blah blah so will keep this one a secret until later on. Not in the modd for others comments. yep I am crazy and I am able to have 4 children if I like. I am a school teacher so am very luck with working hours and holidays. One thing I won't be getting is a bus. I am happy to have my tubes tied on the table after my CS.

That's so exciting Mel! I wonder who will be the first Nov Mum to get Preggers again?!


Well I have caught up but can't remember anything except for the kettle being put in the fridge lol! My mum has just given me an hour long foot rub and exfoliate.... heaven!!! She gives them to me every time she visits and I never want her to stop lol.
Put Noah to bed at 6.30 and haven't been anywhere near the nursery since - my life has done a complete turn around in the last 24hrs. Even if it short lived, I now know tha he is capable of it! Tally it's your turn now - I will send some fuzzy wuzzy sleepy vibes Rykan;s way! Tell him is he doesn't sleep longer soon, that Aunty Sands is going to nick his legwarmers!
Moops your mothers meetings sound like you are internet dating lol, makes me giggle.
nighty night girls, I never know what the night is going to hold so will sleep while I can... and I don;t want to get my hopes up that I will ave another night like last night.
re 5mth horrors: I kept reading that everywhere when I was googling sleep and settling babies... had never heard of it before that, but they said a lot of babies turn ferral for a while at that age with their sleep/and that babies who previously slept through the night suddenly don't. weird.
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Wow Sands I can't believe what a change that is! You musn't know what to do with yourself!! Lol re the internet dating I feel the same! Before I left I said to DH "Where shall I take her? It is a nice day I might take her to the park" lol. She's Australian, from Sydney so it's nice to have that in common. Although after all our talk about Oz I'm starting to feel homesick. Today was one of hottest days this year in London 22 degrees woot woot! :laughing:

[Vespera]

Moops: I had the same concerns with my DH as when he is with Connor and I he has an extremely short fuse if he gets grouchy BUT I have discovered that its because I'm there and he knows that I will take over. When I have left him alone with him he is much more patient than me and will rock him or pat him for HOURS! I think you just need to try leaving him with your DH, just nip to the shops or something and see how he goes. Hopefully he comes through for you xxx

[Nan]

Hello girls!!
Well it is HEAPS cold here at the moment. My body is still reeling from the very quick change from 27 degrees to 7!!!! Its raining :rain: cats and dogs and we just had a bit of hail!! I'm off to go and snuggle under my doona with a cuppa for a while while the kids are both asleep. :cloud9: Then we're of to a 2nd birthday party for one of Eden's little friends from our mum's group.

kizmet - Robbie looks adorable in your new av!!! Yay for almost crawling already! :yelclap: Glad he is much better now. Here's some 'get well soon' vibes for you. :goodvibes:


Talking about sleep deprivation brain, last night I put the kettle in the fridge!
Hahahahaha! :laughing: That's hilarious. I've done the keys in the fridge thing, but the kettle is a new one, Moops!

mel - Wow! You are brave. I don't think I have the patience for 4 kids. Good on you & who cares what other people think? All the best going back to work tomorrow......also another brave move. I wonder if you'll have as much time for scrapbokking now? ;) I only had to keep our old place tidy with a 15 month old who wasn't walking yet, so it was pretty easy. It must be hard with 3!!

Anyway, off to get my cuppa and have a snooze for a while. YAY!!!!!!
Hugs & kisses to all. xoxoxoxoxo

[AliyahBlake]

re 5mth horrors: I kept reading that everywhere when I was googling sleep and settling babies... had never heard of it before that, but they said a lot of babies turn ferral for a while at that age with their sleep/and that babies who previously slept through the night suddenly don't. weird.


:yes: Well, if there is such a thing as 5 month horrors, then that's what we're experiencing with Blake right now. Either that or a wonder week mixed with teething! Last night he was awake every 2 - 3 hours and fed heaps each time. We are all a bit grouchy in our house today!:gloomy: He seems ok today though, so hopefully tonight will be better :fingerscrossed:

[sasa]

:crying:.....:hissy:.....:mad:

Hey everyone, I am just going to whinge straight up and get it over and done with.. I am so sick! (said in a very whiny and croaky voice)

As you all know DD1 has been sick all week and now everyone else in the house has it too except DD2 thankfully. I hate being sick and am annoyed about it even more because I have been looking forward to catching up with you all again tomorrow... I am so dissapointed that I have to be sick now, I havent been sick in so long...

Anyway sorry I started trying to read everything and catch up but I have missed so much over the weekend and my head is just not up to reading it all now So I will do that soon, but tonight, I really just need to go to bed! :sleeping:

I am so sorry brissy girls, I am really dissapointed, I know you guys will have a great time, hopefully it won't be too long between meets next time so I dont have to wait to long to meet Sands, Krixly and Lozie too...

OK I have to go now, not looking forward to DF being back at work tomorrow and being at home with the girls if I feel anything like I did today, hopefully I will wake up feeling atleast a little bit better.

Hope you're all well xx

[sandralee]

Just a quick note girls as I haven't had time to write this weekend! My mum came down earlier than she originally thought.. AND my sister has just arrived back in oz from a month travelling around asia - so she and my dad are due at my place by 8.30am!!! I have read everywhere trying to find out if the meet is still on, but saw that Sasa was sick - GET WELL SOON SASA!!!!!!! (so not sure if it still on?) I don't want to let anyone down, so would still make it, but have the added pressure of my family here which I didn't count on!:confused: What to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Once it is a civilised hour I might give you a call Kate. Will wait until my eldest leaves for school at 7.30 & when Noah has gone down for one of his many naps lol.
Sands xox xox
p.s. Saturday night Noah went to bed at 6.30....woke at 3am for a feed.. then at 5.30 with poo everywhere! I only had to go nto the nursery for the 3am feed and no resettling whatsoever YAY!!!
AND! Last night he went to bed at 6.30... then nothing til 2.30am where he drank 100mls....then that was it til 6am when he had again done a big sloshy poo!:yelclap:

[AliyahBlake]

We had another pretty average night with Blake last night. It wasn't as bad as Saturday night, but he's still not back to himself yet. He went to sleep at about 6:30pm last night, then woke at midnight, 3:30am and 6:30am (but I think that was because Craig was being so bloody noisy getting ready for work!). At the 3:30 am wake up, I tried just giving him some panadol and resettling him (I don't want him to think he will get fed every time he wakes), but he was hungry and fed for 30 mins. I hope this growth spurt settles in the next 24 hours!! I NEED SLEEP!!! I know these waking times don't look too bad, but when you're used to going from midnight to 5 or 6, it throws your sleep out big time.

The tooth still isn't fully through yet but it is coming! I can feel the tooth has definitely popped through the gum, but I think the gum keeps swelling and covering it over again.:rolleyes:

We will have a quiet day at home today - well, there's no choice really, I can't drive anywhere as Craig still has the camper trailer hooked up to the 4wd (we had it out yesterday to air out and prepare for our next trip away soon).

[Rainbowbrite]

Hi guys, long time no see. We've all been sick with colds here & now poor Ani has it :( He is so stuffed up & refuses to take anything to ease it :( The only thing I can do is use a saline nasal spray before each feed. I feel useless.

Other than that, nothing new to report. He is enjoying tummy time a bit more, lifts his bum up but thats it. No hands & knee's action yet. Still no sitting unaided, falls forward every time. Teething bad, is grinding his gums, biting everything & again, nothing I can do to help him. Putting curash teething gel on but it doesn't seem to be doing anything to help. I can feel the lump & see a speck of white, so hoping it will cut really soon.

Tried him on some sweet potato yesterday........no go. He gagged, spat, cried.....so will leave it a few weeks & try again.

Still not settling, screams when trying to go to sleep even in my arms, then wakes & screams as soon as I transfer him. I could put him in the Moby to sleep of a day, but I don't want him to get used to being held all the time. I just don't know what to do.

Sorry to be such a downer about everything, feeling miserable, this cold just won't go.

Hope everyone is feeling better than me :hugs:

[AliyahBlake]

:hugs: RB - I kinda know how you feel at the moment. I guess we're all bound to get our bad days/weeks/months! I just put Blake down for his sleep and have discovered another tooth poking it's way through the gum - that's two trying to come through at the same time - no wonder he's been cranky! I can only liken it to wisdom teeth coming through, and I know how much that hurts!!:(

[Vespera]

Well my mum left at lunch time yesterday and she must have tired my boy out! He slept from 7pm til 6am this morning! 6am was a little too early for me but he went back to bed at 7.30 and so did I.

Be back later but just realised I have to leave for playgroup and neither Connor nor I is dressed. Wooops!

[Nan]

sasa - I hope you feel better soon.

Sands - That's so great about Noah's sleeps. Sounds like his medication is working. :thumbsup: Don't get me started on poos!! The last 2 Caleb has done have been 'complete strip off & change' jobs!!!!

AB & RB - :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: Hope things settle down soon.

Enjoy your meet up Brissie girls.

[kaybee]

Don't have time to read cos I have to go to bris soon - but NOAH SLEPT FROM 6.30pm - 6.30am and only woke at 4am for a feed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had to go in once an hour after I put him to bed to roll him on his side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am in such a state of shock!!!!!! Meds are finally working yay!

Yay Noah!! :yelclap:

!!RYLAN SLEPT FOR 3hrs STRAIGHT LAST NIGHT!!



Yay Rylan!! :yelclap:


re 5mth horrors: I kept reading that everywhere when I was googling sleep and settling babies... had never heard of it before that, but they said a lot of babies turn ferral for a while at that age with their sleep/and that babies who previously slept through the night suddenly don't. weird.


Hmm I wonder if that;s Ava's problem? Another tooth has come thru over the weekend, so she's got the 2 at the bottom coming thru! She's also gotten another cold and was very stuffed up over the weekend. So a combo of all these things has meant very little sleep over the last few days!
A friend also suggested that if they are waking up alot with a cold or teething and then get better, the waking in the night has become a habit so they keep doing it for awhile.


Hi guys, long time no see. We've all been sick with colds here & now poor Ani has it He is so stuffed up & refuses to take anything to ease it The only thing I can do is use a saline nasal spray before each feed. I feel useless.


Hugs :hugs::hugs:RB! I hope things get better soon. We jsut had to use the Saline spray too, as Ava spits out Panadol etc. Even the the Saline causes her to kick up a stink, crying etc. Not much fun.

After finally having a couple of warm sunny days here in Sydney following 2 weeks of rain, the weather has turned to **** again! :rain:

No fun.

Hope you Brissy girls had a good meet up. Hey Sydney gals maybe we should have one! I hope I can make it this time.!

[Rainbowbrite]

Thanks Nan. Ani has been an angel today........I'm sure it was just cause we had a friend visit & he had to make a liar out of me :rolleyes:

Cuddled him to sleep at 10......he went in the cot asleep & didn't wake till 12.30!!!!!!
Fed & cuddled to sleep at 2.30ish.......he went in the cot, stirred & I shat myself lol. He went back to sleep with no tears & slept for almost 2 hours again!!!!!! MJ even put herself to bed & slept for about 90mins!!! Who stole my kids & replaced them with these ones?!?!?! :laughing:

Hope everyone else had great days :hugs:

[Rainbowbrite]

Kaybee :hugs: Ani is the same. If I even go near his nose to wipe it he arches his back, screams etc. Not fun for the poor little things.

I agree about the weather too, it was sooo nice yesterday & this morning. Now its absolutely FREEZING COLD!!!

Will have to catch up soon :hugs: Remember, i'm up for a MSN chat anytime!!

[MrsScatterbrain]

My mum has just given me an hour long foot rub and exfoliate.... heaven!!! She gives them to me every time she visits and I never want her to stop lol.

Sands, your Mum is a star! What bliss!


Well, if there is such a thing as 5 month horrors, then that's what we're experiencing with Blake right now. Either that or a wonder week mixed with teething!

Oh AB, I hope he settles in time for you to go back to work.


.. I am so sick! (said in a very whiny and croaky voice)

:hugs: Sasa! I hope you recover fast!



p.s. Saturday night Noah went to bed at 6.30....woke at 3am for a feed.. then at 5.30 with poo everywhere! I only had to go nto the nursery for the 3am feed and no resettling whatsoever YAY!!!
AND! Last night he went to bed at 6.30... then nothing til 2.30am where he drank 100mls....then that was it til 6am when he had again done a big sloshy poo!

That is amazing! What great news!



Still not settling, screams when trying to go to sleep even in my arms, then wakes & screams as soon as I transfer him.

:hugs: RB - glad he had a good day today, though.

Kiz - so glad to hear Robbie is well now. (And you guys are on the mend too).


I think we're in the grip of the 5-month horrors as well! I was up all night feeding last night, and had to get up to DS1 twice, to boot! :hair: Thomas is teething, but only on and off. I've put him to bed in his longies and a cotton top and woolen jumper as its cold, but his temperature keeps spiking and I don't want him to overheat. (Wool being better at regulating body temperature than polyester!)

He has been (sporadically!) 'sleeping' during the day with white noise, dummy and wrap! (All my good sleep plans are going out the window!) I feel like I spend my whole day jiggling his mattress, but he doesn't even respond to that now!

My main problem is that I can't get him to relax before he goes down. What is happening to our angelic babies!! :p

Hmmm, what other news?

Oh - I discovered the culprit of the 4.30am awakenings! It is Thomas! He wakes up first and chats away to him self :ecomcity:, then Ben hears him and thinks its time to get up for the day! :D Little devils! Bless them!

[MrsScatterbrain]

Another tooth has come thru over the weekend, so she's got the 2 at the bottom coming thru! She's also gotten another cold and was very stuffed up over the weekend. So a combo of all these things has meant very little sleep over the last few days!

:hugs: Kaybee, what a rough trot.

[Nan]

Thanks Nan. Ani has been an angel today........I'm sure it was just cause we had a friend visit & he had to make a liar out of me
Oh! Don't ya love it when they do that?........:no:

Oh - I discovered the culprit of the 4.30am awakenings! It is Thomas! He wakes up first and chats away to him self, then Ben hears him and thinks its time to get up for the day!
:laughing: This happens at our place, too!! Thankfully at a more acceptable hour....usually 6:30-7.

kaybee - Your friend has a good point. I'd forgotten that they get into habits that way.

[shymmer]

Juat a quick update . . . Had a lovely time with Kittylou today. The girls were so good!

Here are a couple shots of our gorgeous bubba's:

"http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1975.jpg"

<http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1977.jpg"


Hope you all have a good night, xxxx

[Roxy76]

Juat a quick update . . . Had a lovely time with Kittylou today. The girls were so good!

Here are a couple shots of our gorgeous bubba's:

"http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1975.jpg"

<http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1977.jpg"


Hope you all have a good night, xxxx

They are so gorgeous! love the second pic where they are touching hands! sooo cute! :flowerz:

[Moops]

Moops: I had the same concerns with my DH as when he is with Connor and I he has an extremely short fuse if he gets grouchy BUT I have discovered that its because I'm there and he knows that I will take over. When I have left him alone with him he is much more patient than me and will rock him or pat him for HOURS! I think you just need to try leaving him with your DH, just nip to the shops or something and see how he goes. Hopefully he comes through for you xxx

Thanks Jas, I think you're right I am just worried that something will happen to him if I'm not there. Wow what an over protective mother I'm going to be!




Hey everyone, I am just going to whinge straight up and get it over and done with.. I am so sick! (said in a very whiny and croaky voice)

Hope you're feeling better soon! I've got a cold at the moment as well and feeling like cr@p! I just want to curl up in bed and sleep, yeah right!


Just a quick note girls as I haven't had time to write this weekend! My mum came down earlier than she originally thought.. AND my sister has just arrived back in oz from a month travelling around asia - so she and my dad are due at my place by 8.30am!!! I have read everywhere trying to find out if the meet is still on, but saw that Sasa was sick - GET WELL SOON SASA!!!!!!! (so not sure if it still on?) I don't want to let anyone down, so would still make it, but have the added pressure of my family here which I didn't count on!:confused: What to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Once it is a civilised hour I might give you a call Kate. Will wait until my eldest leaves for school at 7.30 & when Noah has gone down for one of his many naps lol.
Sands xox xox
p.s. Saturday night Noah went to bed at 6.30....woke at 3am for a feed.. then at 5.30 with poo everywhere! I only had to go nto the nursery for the 3am feed and no resettling whatsoever YAY!!!
AND! Last night he went to bed at 6.30... then nothing til 2.30am where he drank 100mls....then that was it til 6am when he had again done a big sloshy poo!:yelclap:

You must be having a blast with your family there Sands! By the way how nice is your Mum to give you an hour long foot massage?!! Pity you didn't make the meet, when I'm home I'm going to make sure you all turn up!! :laughing:

I can't believe the transformation in Noah, it is fantastic!


We had another pretty average night with Blake last night. It wasn't as bad as Saturday night, but he's still not back to himself yet. He went to sleep at about 6:30pm last night, then woke at midnight, 3:30am and 6:30am (but I think that was because Craig was being so bloody noisy getting ready for work!). At the 3:30 am wake up, I tried just giving him some panadol and resettling him (I don't want him to think he will get fed every time he wakes), but he was hungry and fed for 30 mins. I hope this growth spurt settles in the next 24 hours!! I NEED SLEEP!!! I know these waking times don't look too bad, but when you're used to going from midnight to 5 or 6, it throws your sleep out big time.

The tooth still isn't fully through yet but it is coming! I can feel the tooth has definitely popped through the gum, but I think the gum keeps swelling and covering it over again.:rolleyes:

We will have a quiet day at home today - well, there's no choice really, I can't drive anywhere as Craig still has the camper trailer hooked up to the 4wd (we had it out yesterday to air out and prepare for our next trip away soon).

I hear you on the 5 month horrors! Luca woke up last night at 11,12, and 3 for 2 hours!!! Then got up at 6.30, I'm so tired! I'm not sure if it is his teeth or what but he is really unsettled.


Juat a quick update . . . Had a lovely time with Kittylou today. The girls were so good!

Here are a couple shots of our gorgeous bubba's:

"http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1975.jpg"

<http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1977.jpg"


Hope you all have a good night, xxxx

Awwww so cute! Was it just the two of you?

[Rainbowbrite]

Mrs S, we have that here. As soon as Ani is awake he chats, MJ hears & is up. So annoying seeing as if she isn't there, he will go back to sleep.

Shana, the girls are so adorable!!! Will have to take pics of Ani & Robbie on thursday :)

After a great day, we had a bad evening, he just didn't want to settle again, but eventually got him to sleep around 8......I then proceeded to pass out on the lounge, so did DH :p He woke me at 10.30!! I still had to make our bed, so did that & Ani woke for a feed, went back to sleep & didn't wake till 5.30 this morning!!!! :smiliedance: But in true tradition of having 2 kids, the night that he sleeps, MJ woke at 1am :hair: Got her back to sleep & she woke at 6.30 & Ani has just woken up now.

I am hoping & wishing with all my might that Ani will keep this up :fingerscrossed:

Hope everyone else had a good night :hugs:

[AliyahBlake]

Wow what an over protective mother I'm going to be!


No I think you're normal! Actually I have been more protective of Blake than I was with Aliyah (possibly due to his traumatic entry into the world!) - Craig says he doesn't do things off his own bat with Blake because he's worried I'll go off my nut if he does the wrong thing!! I didn't think I was that bad, but maybe I am. Craig reckons I was much more relaxed with Aliyah. I have started to let Craig go, as the dad needs to have his own way of doing things - I have to accept that! As Craig said - he has done it all before!!:D

We had a much better night last night. Blake did wake at the unusual time (for him) of 9:30pm for a feed (but he didn't have a full bedtime feed as he fell asleep on the bottle!), but then didn't wake til 3am then 6am. I think the main reason he woke at 6am was because it was so damn cold (7 degrees! Brrrrr) and he had kicked all his blankets off. Might be time for the winter sleeping bag! He's just all over the place at the moment. He also seems to have a little cold, which I thought he had last week, but it went away and is now back again.

I have to go and get the kids laybys out today as they definitely need their winter stuff now. The flannelette sheets are going on the beds today for sure!

[perrywinkle]

Hello Everyone,

Have been reading just not posting in my quick study breaks.

Shana - what cute little girls. The second photo is great with them holding hands.

RB - that is so typical isn't it. If one has a good sleep the other has a c**p sleep.

AB - are we still expressing boobie milk for the bottle? I have been expressing milk too and she loves having the bottle but it only has to be breast milk not formula. But I was thinking about buying an electric pump because it can take me all day to express 240mls and I thought it might be better with an electric one. As long as I've got milk when my exam is on we should be fine.

We woke a couple of times last night 12.30am for a feed and 5am when DH was getting ready for work. :hair: he is so loud it drives me bonkers. He says he tries to be quiet but I reckon he doesn't even bother. I had he heater on all night it was so cold here in Adelaide.

DS is back at Kindy :smiliedance: so it's back to rushing around all over the place. We have a dentist appiontment tomorrow too which is going to be interesting. Just a check up that they have when they start Kindy so hopefully all will be good there.

On the weekend my mum is going to look after DS and Alice and I are going out to lunch with a friend of mine from school who is over from the UK. We haven't seen each other for 13years and have made contact again thanks to facebook. :smiliedance: Can't wait. It's going to be a long lunch!!

Have got a fairly busy week this week and I feel so tired Argh I'm always tired so nothings new.

Is anyone still wrapping their bub? We are but not that tightly anymore. She still likes to be wrapped a bit around her top half but slowly trying to get rid of the wrap?

Oh how funny was BB last night! Did anyone watch it? I'm not sure if I'll watch it yet might give it a couple of weeks then decide.

Anyway I must be off to study more and I hope everyone has a nice day today!! XX

[Kizmet]

No I think you're normal! Actually I have been more protective of Blake than I was with Aliyah

I think the main reason he woke at 6am was because it was so damn cold (7 degrees! Brrrrr) and he had kicked all his blankets off. Might be time for the winter sleeping bag!

I am so much more protective of Robbie than I was of Abby, not sure why but it is so odd! I am getting better now he is getting older but I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that Abby was/is so independant. She will want cuddles when she feels like it but most of the time likes to play on her own. Robbie however is very cuddly always wants to be help and has major separation anxiety. I think that may have something to do with it and also going through it all once before I think makes me realise how little they are and for how little time iykwim.

Robbie was sleeping so well until the last few nights when it is freezing cold! Our winter sleeping bags are coming out now too for sure! He gets so cold kicking off the blankets and by the time he gets warmed up again he gets so cranky and is completely awake!






Had a major cleanup today so feel alittle more in control. Tomorrow I am getting all my stuff ready to go back to work ( school) and start my diet ( taking packed lunches). Only working mon-wed.




I feel so much more in control when I go on a cleaning spree! I have been trying so much more lately but I get a bit OCD about the littlest things when I get into full on clean mode so im trying to find a happy medium :laughing:



Well it is HEAPS cold here at the moment. My body is still reeling from the very quick change from 27 degrees to 7!!!! Its raining cats and dogs and we just had a bit of hail!! I'm off to go and snuggle under my doona with a cuppa for a while while the kids are both asleep. Then we're of to a 2nd birthday party for one of Eden's little friends from our mum's group.


The weather has changed drastically here too! im trying to organise getting washing done and out finally get it on the line and it starts pouring for 5 minutes then it is sunny again :confused: oh well my washing gets another rinse!


:yes: Well, if there is such a thing as 5 month horrors, then that's what we're experiencing with Blake right now.

I had no idea there was a 5 month horrors thing but it explains soooo much!




Hey everyone, I am just going to whinge straight up and get it over and done with.. I am so sick! (said in a very whiny and croaky voice)


I hope you feel better soon hun!!


Well my mum left at lunch time yesterday and she must have tired my boy out! He slept from 7pm til 6am this morning! 6am was a little too early for me but he went back to bed at 7.30 and so did I.

Be back later but just realised I have to leave for playgroup and neither Connor nor I is dressed. Wooops!


Another tooth has come thru over the weekend, so she's got the 2 at the bottom coming thru! She's also gotten another cold and was very stuffed up over the weekend. So a combo of all these things has meant very little sleep over the last few days!
A friend also suggested that if they are waking up alot with a cold or teething and then get better, the waking in the night has become a habit so they keep doing it for awhile.



After finally having a couple of warm sunny days here in Sydney following 2 weeks of rain, the weather has turned to **** again!


The weather is horrid isnt it! so unpredictable! Robbie is waking in the middle of the night too because it is freezing! I have the air con on on and off all day which is going to be great for our electricity bill :rolleyes:
Congrats on Ava's two teeth! how exciting! they look so different when they start to get teeth! but I hate teething :(



Oh - I discovered the culprit of the 4.30am awakenings! It is Thomas! He wakes up first and chats away to him self then Ben hears him and thinks its time to get up for the day! Little devils! Bless them!

This happens with us too! And in the middle of the day Abby hears Robbie and runs in shouting 'Abby wake up Robs'! it is so hard when he wakes first youre pretty much guaranteed Abs will be awake within 5 mins!


Juat a quick update . . . Had a lovely time with Kittylou today. The girls were so good!

Here are a couple shots of our gorgeous bubba's:

"http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1975.jpg"

<http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1977.jpg"


Hope you all have a good night, xxxx

They are gorgeous!!! Hope you guys had a great day!

[Kizmet]

On the weekend my mum is going to look after DS and Alice and I are going out to lunch with a friend of mine from school who is over from the UK. We haven't seen each other for 13years and have made contact again thanks to facebook. Can't wait. It's going to be a long lunch!!

Is anyone still wrapping their bub? We are but not that tightly anymore. She still likes to be wrapped a bit around her top half but slowly trying to get rid of the wrap?


That is great! Hope you have a fantastic lunch!

Robbie is still wrapped for every sleep. His hands, arms are just too much of a distraction and when theyre free he has access to feet, will roll himself over, anything he can do to keep himself awake basically! Abby was wrapped for quite some time so im not fussed with weaning him from it atm especially with how cold the weather has been here lately! it is an extra layer of warmth :laughing:

[Kittylou]

Just popping in to let you girls know that my poor little man had an accident at school yesterday. He was playing soccer at lunch time and he and another boy collided and Blake came out worse off. I got a call to pick him up from school not long after Shana and Xav left my place.

He and DH spent until midnight last night in the emergency department and he came home with his leg in a cast. It isn't fractured so the dr said it is possibly ligament damage to his knee which is bruised and swollen (despite him complaining of pain in his shin, not knee). Anyway, he cannot walk at all and is in immense pain when we have had to move him to/from bed and to the toilet. He screams and becomes hysterical at even the slightest touch (or even the suggestion of moving him). DH is at home with me today as I can't lift Blake on my own - at least not in a way that supports his leg.

It's so incredibly distressing to see him in so much pain. He' s on a mattress in the lounge now watching DVDs and is fine as long as he doesn't have to move. The doctor at the hospital said to take him to our GP in 3 days to get reassessed but I don't know how I'm going to cope with him if he is like this for the next 3 days. My sister thinks I should get a second opinion but I'm reluctant to move him at all. I just don't know what to do!!

I have to go pick my Mum and her husband up from the airport shortly for her 60th birthday tonight - although I don't think we're going to be able to make it to the party. So disappointing as we only get to see her a few times a year!!

Anyway, just had to get that out. Thanks for listening/reading.

[Kizmet]

oh hun im so sorry! I really hope Blake is ok :hugs: I have torn ligaments in my knee before and it is really painful so it could possibly be that but if you feel like it is something more get your dh to take him for a second opinion while he is off today :hugs: how heartbreaking for you! :hugs:

if there is anything I can do let me know!!:hugs:

[shymmer]

Oh Kate, that's terrible! Poor Blake. I assume they did x-rays to make sure nothing was broken? Can you not give him something for the pain? I'd get a second opinion too if you have any doubts.

My Dh has torn ligaments a few times (as a child and adult) in his knee too and was in a lot of pain and couldn't walk etc. The fliud/blood biuld up creates pressure and that is what causes a lot of the pain. It hurt so much they took Dh back to the Hosp and had his knee drained. He went from lying there in agony to being able to hobble on it after it was drained! Makes a big difference.
He did it again about two/three years ago and went to the Doc to get it drained, the Doc was a bit reluctant (Don't like to stick needles in for increased risk of infection etc)- but Dh made him b/c he knew it would ease the pain.
So if Blake is in THAT much pain, take him back to the Doc and ask to have it drianed - and try not to look at the size of the needle!!! They should drain it if he is in a great deal of pain from it.

Dh said the injury hurt more the first few times he did it than the last time, so I can imagine Blake must hurting a lot!

Be a shame if you don't make the party, but these things happen, don't they.

Hope he feels better soon.

[tally]

Poor Blake.. I did that as a child too, make sure you get him into physio asap to try an avoid any long term damage, they'll also be able to help him get it moving again as quickly as possible as they longer he takes the harder and more its going to hurt. Poor little sweetie.

We're still wrapping and have no intentions of stopping any time soon lol..

Our 2 nights away where pure hell again with sleep. He barely slept at night and on Sunday he had a 20 min cat nap at the lunch after the bapt and thats it.. :hissy: not to mention he spent a great deal of the time during the car trip crying. My mum was a total pain in the A$$ and complained to DH that Rylan kept her awake.. yet she wants me to go back in a couple of weeks so that she can give me a rest..like wtf.. a bit of patience for the 2 nights we were there would have been nice in the first place so I cant imagine going back agains going to make any diff.

Last night at home was much better, he woke at 1am, 3am and 5am so hopefully we can improve again from there, though he has been bursting into tears this morning for no apparent reason, hoping hes just exhausted and theres nothing wrong.

The baptism itself was fantastic, and my little neice looked absolutely gorgeous and the 2 babies had a ball, she is only a couple of months older than Rylan and they were real kissing cousins.. its sad that we live so far apart. :(

Trying to think of what everyones written but I'm still so tired...

On a better note, Zade is starting his speech therapy next week, we've finally gotten through all the assessment phase and ready to start which will be great. Hopefully we'll get some hints on how to help him along.. not sure if i've mentioned but he was found to have a slight hearing loss and its affecting his speech.

Better go and do some more work, Rys having a sleep so have so much to do during that time its not funny.

[westerner]

Im so sorry to hear about Blake..

Hope he isn't in pain for to much longer and his leg gets better.. Poor little fella..

It just breaks your heart doesn't it... :(

Lots of love to him and you hun.. :hugs: :hugs:

[AliyahBlake]

AB - are we still expressing boobie milk for the bottle?

We woke a couple of times last night 12.30am for a feed and 5am when DH was getting ready for work.... he is so loud it drives me bonkers.

We haven't seen each other for 13years and have made contact again thanks to facebook.

Is anyone still wrapping their bub?

:yes: Yep still expressing - just once a day though - he only has a bottle for bedtime so I just express that BF he misses of an evening. Not sure how I will manage it when I go back to work - maybe express on my breaks. I only get out about 80 - 120 mls so I usually mix in 50ml formula to make sure he gets enough. Sometimes he drinks the lot and other times he drinks 100mls and falls asleep!

I know, Craig's the same! Men! :rolleyes:

Have fun meeting up with your friend. Gotta love Facebook!

No, I don't wrap Blake anymore. He moves around the cot so much that he kept getting tangled!


Just popping in to let you girls know that my poor little man had an accident at school yesterday.

It's so incredibly distressing to see him in so much pain. He' s on a mattress in the lounge now watching DVDs and is fine as long as he doesn't have to move. The doctor at the hospital said to take him to our GP in 3 days to get reassessed but I don't know how I'm going to cope with him if he is like this for the next 3 days. My sister thinks I should get a second opinion but I'm reluctant to move him at all. I just don't know what to do!!

Poor little fella - sounds horrible. If he's in that much pain I probably would get him seen to again - a) he needs more appropriate pain management, and b) if he's not moving that leg at all (and I don't mean to scare you) then he's at huge risk of developing a clot (DVT). With the state the country's hospitals are in (ie very busy), doctors in the ED can miss things, so if in doubt, get him re-examined :yes::yes::yes:

Shana - cute pics of the bubs - yes Sydney girls we WILL have to organise a meet soon (and hopefully all make it to this one :o)

Well, Blake is being an absolute angel today, so I am able to get lots done!

[Nan]

Hi everyone. We're having a nice day. Took the kids to Kindergym this morning and they're now having sleeps......well, Eden is singing to herself :p, but she's in bed, so its a matter of time really.

PW - Enjoy your lunch! Sounds fun. I didn't watch BB as I'm too afraid if I start, then I'll get addicted. :o Yeah, we still wrap Caleb around his bottom half......he ends up working his way out of it, but he gets wrapped sleeping bag and all!!!

Just popping in to let you girls know that my poor little man had an accident at school yesterday.
So sorry to hear. It sounds awful for him & very stressing for you. :hugs: I'd take him to another doctor too (as others have said). If he's in that much pain, you don't want to be taking action based on a hunch or rushed decision. It is quite a serious injury & I agree with AB that clotting is a big risk. Poor thing. I hope you do make it to the party. Be such a shame to miss it. These things always happen at the worst times. :(

Roxy - So glad you popped in. Hope things are going well.

Great! I can hear Eden is out of bed making a mess in her room.......GRRRRRR! :mad:

[MrsScatterbrain]

Happy 5 Month birthday Caleb and Thomas! :party:

We have just got back from every Mum's rite of passage - the Tupperware Party! :laughing: I began to feel like a lobotomized housewife the way she was carrying on as if all we had to worry about was how to colour code our picnic containers! :laughing: We did have a great time though, it was a lot of fun! I bought a set of little containers for Thomas' solids. They really do remind me of when I was a kid!

Thomas is so tired I can't get him to sleep at all now! (How does that make sense!?) He's been topped up, wrapped, dummied, jiggled, rocked ... you name it!


Juat a quick update . . . Had a lovely time with Kittylou today. The girls were so good!

What gorgeous girls! They look like they're holding hands!


Hello
Is anyone still wrapping their bub? We are but not that tightly anymore.

I stopped wrapping Thomas about a month ago, but wrap him now and again when he's overtired. (ie, every day!:laughing:)


Just popping in to let you girls know that my poor little man had an accident at school yesterday.

:hugs: Poor little man! I hope his pains eases up soon. A second opinion might do you both a world of good.


My mum was a total pain in the A$$ and complained to DH that Rylan kept her awake.. yet she wants me to go back in a couple of weeks so that she can give me a rest..like wtf.. a bit of patience for the 2 nights we were there would have been nice in the first place so I cant imagine going back agains going to make any diff.

.. its sad that we live so far apart. :(


Oh Tally! I know the feeling! My Mum came to stay to help in the two weeks before Thomas' birth and complained when I asked her to get up at 6am to get DS1 brekkie because DH and I had been up since 2am with contractions! (Actually it was just me with the contractions, but I don't suffer in silence!!) You never know, maybe if you go again she'll take leadership of the situation and really give you a break. You deserve it!

My little Thomas is wide awake still ... I might give him a bath to wind him down a bit.

[Kittylou]

Thanks everyone. I really appreciate the support.

Shana, they did a few x-rays. The first doctor who saw him was certain it was fractured based on what happened and the level of pain he was in. But the x-rays ruled that out and a more senior doctor came and assessed him. He asked Blake to move his leg in particular ways and although he was very reluctant because of the pain, he was able to do so which showed that it wasn't as serious as they initially thought.

Tally, my brother has recently undergone his second knee surgery in about 7 months so he was straight on the phone to his physio to get his opinion of the treatment he was given in hospital. The physio ok'ed it and also gave him the number of a physio for us to take Blake to ASAP.

He is doing a little better now. No pain at all while he is lying still and he is able to roll his leg from one side almost to the other with only a small amount of pain and lift it up and down with no pain. Going to the toilet is still a problem but we can get around that.

He thinks he'll be ok to go to the party so my sister has set a couch up just for him in the middle of all the action so he won't feel left out (it's a dinner party so everyone else will be sitting at a table).

I'm feeling a bit better now but still anxious about the next couple of days as DH will have to go back to work. I guess I just have to be positive and think about how much he has improved already.

ETA: As for pain relief, I have been giving him Nurofen which is what the doctor at the medical centre DH took him to first recommended. The hospital doctors didn't mention pain relief to DH but there isn't really anything else he can have anyway, is there?

[Rainbowbrite]

We're not wrapping.........but he sleeps better of a night if I wrap a blanket from his chest down.

Oh Kitty, your poor DS :hugs: I hope he gets some relief soon :hugs: If the nurofen isn't helping much, i'd take him back. But i'm a stress head :o

Tally, I hope Rylan settles for you. We are possibly going away in July (up to the gold coast) & its worrying me so much about uprooting Ani..... Great to hear about the speech pathology though!!

AB we will have to get together for sure!! MJ loves making new friends!!

Well I knew yesterdays good sleeping wouldn't last :hissy: I tried for an hour to get him to sleep this morning from 9.30, finally got him down & into the cot & he was up within 10mins & refusing to go back off!! Then he stayed up till 1.15 when he finally passed out in my arms. Transfered him & this time it lasted for 40mins. He woke, very unhappy, screamed for 30mins, his teeth are killing him, refusing to drink, lay down, sit up etc. Finally got him back to sleep around 2.30 & he is now back in the cot. I wish the tooth would just cut already, its so upsetting for all of us. I had wisdom tooth pain a few weeks ago so can imagine how sore the poor bubba is :(

[AliyahBlake]

ETA: As for pain relief, I have been giving him Nurofen which is what the doctor at the medical centre DH took him to first recommended. The hospital doctors didn't mention pain relief to DH but there isn't really anything else he can have anyway, is there?

:no: Not really - nurofen is probably the best. If it's holding his pain OK then keep that up (usually OK for a dose of panadol in between if he needs something for breakthrough pain - just make sure he's hydrated and give him food with the nurofen so it doesn't cause stomach problems). If it gets to the stage that neither of these are holding him then definitely take him to the GP again. I'm glad he is improving though.:thumbsup:

Did I mention how much of an angel my little boy has been today? Complete contrast to the last 4 days!

[Kittylou]

(usually OK for a dose of panadol in between if he needs something for breakthrough pain - just make sure he's hydrated and give him food with the nurofen so it doesn't cause stomach problems). If it gets to the stage that neither of these are holding him then definitely take him to the GP again. I'm glad he is improving though.:thumbsup:


Thanks AB, he did just say before that he thinks he needs more Nurofen but he can't have any for another couple of hours. I didn't think of giving him panadol in between. He's been distracted now so I won't worry but good to know if it gets too bad.

Oh, and I'm glad your Blake has been an angel for you. Sophie has had a few days of non-sleeping and being a bit high maintenance (thank goodness DH is home today to help with that too) so I'm hoping that the party tonight will tire her out and she'll have a big sleeping day tomorrow.

In other Sophie news, she is now mobile!! She gets right up off her chest with her hands below her shoulders and then pushes herself backwards until her hands are right out in front of her. Then brings them back to below her shoulders and repeats. It's a very slow process and so cute but she keeps backing into things and getting stuck!!

Hopefully I will have time to read all of your posts properly tomorrow and reply. Take it easy everyone.

[melbryan]

Hi to all caught up as much as I could,

Kitty lou your poor boy hope is gets better soon.

Kiz hugs to you too.

We are like you RB only wrapping from the chest down.

Tally the baptism sounds really nice and speech therapy will do him the world of good.

Nan- do the kids enjoy kindergym, is it like gymbaroo?

Well my Angel Ashton slept through the night before mummy had to go to work and last night slept from 4.30pm- 8am. Checked on him he must be going through a growth spurt.Work is how I left it and I have a photo of the boys on my wall at school the kids want to know what baby I had so I show them my 3 boys. Seems to be smooth sailing for now which is nice, everything is running like clockwork but it's only been 2 days I s'pose I am going to do some casual work as well so that I can make some more money the bills are piling up.

Well gotta go Ds1 peed the bed last night more sheets to wash.
Love to all will keep reading but maybe post next week,

[kaybee]

Oh how funny was BB last night! Did anyone watch it? I'm not sure if I'll watch it yet might give it a couple of weeks then decide.


I saw bits of it. Will see how I go, I hate Kyle so he may get too much for me.


Just popping in to let you girls know that my poor little man had an accident at school yesterday.

Oh poor little man :hugs: Hope he gets better soon.


Poor Blake.. I did that as a child too, make sure you get him into physio asap to try an avoid any long term damage, they'll also be able to help him get it moving again as quickly as possible as they longer he takes the harder and more its going to hurt. Poor little sweetie.

We're still wrapping and have no intentions of stopping any time soon lol..

Our 2 nights away where pure hell again with sleep. He barely slept at night and on Sunday he had a 20 min cat nap at the lunch after the bapt and thats it.. :hissy: not to mention he spent a great deal of the time during the car trip crying. My mum was a total pain in the A$$ and complained to DH that Rylan kept her awake..

How annoying! You think she would be a bit mroe understanding!



Well I knew yesterdays good sleeping wouldn't last :hissy: I tried for an hour to get him to sleep this morning from 9.30, finally got him down & into the cot & he was up within 10mins & refusing to go back off!! I wish the tooth would just cut already, its so upsetting for all of us.

:hugs: RB, what a bummer, I know it's painful! Hopefully his teeth will come through soon.

Ava wasn't too bad last night only woke up twice and it was early on, so got a good few hours in the morning. I weighed her today and she is 6.85kg. She's gotten so long, that she's growing out of things soo quickly, especially jumpsuits/ all in one things. Will have to go shopping!:D

Hope all our bubs sleep well tonight!:fingerscrossed: (I can only dream!)

[MrsScatterbrain]

I forgot to ask before - are anyone's hands dry and red raw by the end of the day? Mine are from all the nappy changing! (That's right, DS1 has had his first lack of interest in TT!)

I'm trying this product that is a mousse - you apply it every four hours (so roughly every feed) and it is supposedly a barrier to soaps, water, etc. Will have to see how it goes!

[sandralee]

OMG KittlyLou! My heart goes out to you at the moment! BIg hugs and 'speedy recovery vibes' for your little man XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I am like that with cleaning at the moment too - I think because it is the only thing I can control in my life at the moment, as Noah is so unpredictable...er, so is my teenager lol!

Watched what I could of BB (hey what's with Kyle's left eye that keeps on blinking heaps lol!)- Noah was a bit unsettled early in the night, as he only had a couple of short naps with my family here.. & possibly a bit overstimulated! We scored 15min appt with a paed gastro in brisbane tomorrow - so much of a demand for those specialists, some had wait lists until august!

Tally - Noah and Ry were in sync last night lol - he woke at 1am for a feed, was unsettled around 3am and then up shortly after 5am.. cos he went to bed at 6pm last night grrrr.

KittyLou if you need anything dropped off I am only a phone call and 30mins away - please don't hesitate!

My dad and sis are leaving today, and mum goes back tomorrow,

Sasa are you feeling better? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[shymmer]

In other Sophie news, she is now mobile!!


Wow! What a clever girl Sophie is! I'll have to bring Xav over again . . .after seeing Sophie roll etc, Xav was lifting her bottom off the ground and pushing to one side that night - first step to rolling! I'm sure it was Sophie's influence!!

I hope you made it to the party last night and your DS is feeling a lot better. I'm only 5mins away - so if you need anything I can help with, just let me know!!



Well my Angel Ashton slept through the night before mummy had to go to work and last night slept from 4.30pm- 8am. Seems to be smooth sailing for now which is nice, everything is running like clockwork but it's only been 2 days I s'pose I am going to do some casual work as well so that I can make some more money the bills are piling up.


I'm glad it's all going so well Melbryan. Hope it keeps up for you. I'm so impressed!!



I weighed her today and she is 6.85kg. She's gotten so long, that she's growing out of things soo quickly, especially jumpsuits/ all in one things. Will have to go shopping!:D


Ava is such a petite little thing! Makes me think Xav is a little tank!
Xav is a chubby bub, but I don't think she looks huge or anything. But weight wise - she is over 8kg! Her appetite dropped this last fortnight but she still put on heaps of weight. She has never drank the recommended amount of formula, always less. I don't get it. She was in the 95th percentile for weight at 8weeks (while BF)! How do some kids gain so much??



Watched what I could of BB (hey what's with Kyle's left eye that keeps on blinking heaps lol
We scored 15min appt with a paed gastro in brisbane tomorrow - so much of a demand for those specialists, some had wait lists until august!


LOL, I noticed his eye too. Nervous tic perhaps??
Glad you got the appointment in good time. Hopefully it will shed some light and you can get to fixing things so Noah will feel better very soon!


Well, my weekend was ok. Only a few hiccups - Went to family home town. Froze my a$$ off Saturday morning b/c I can never seem to prepare for the climate there. Was in the foulest mood and ready to ditch my nephews 21st that night and come straight back to Bris where it was warm. So I went down town as a distraction and to buy a warmer jacket, but was so grouchy I was looking for someones head to bite off! Then it dawned on me . . . I had had no coffee in two days!! (remember my bleached tooth??) So quicksmart I got an iced coffee slushy thing which I hoped wouldn't stain. Ahhhh, the relief.

Anyway, couldn't find a jacket I liked, Grrrrr:rolleyes: hick town, so decided to buy some new jeans. But naturally my 'new' body looked ill-shaped and dreadful in every pair. Grrrrrr Grrrrr. Ended up wearing my old jeans to the party and both my SIL and sister told me I looked 'awesome'!! :D Good mood restored!
But I have vowed not go there again in Winter. I am cold blooded. I need warm weather!

Ok. Must prepare for the day. (Dh woke Xav up at 6am :mad:. Why must they turn unnessesary lights on and make noise???) At least it's been lovely days here in Bris. Can it just stay like this until Spring?

Ugh, I need another cuppa . . . .

[sandralee]

Wow Shana - I didn't know that you lived that close!
I hate cold weather too - unless I am under a hot shower or in bed lol! It was 3degrees here at 7am yesterday EW! THrough winter we get ice on the grass...hurry up and pass winter!
Taking Noah away to Hervey Bay saturday week.. and man! I am starting to get a bit nervous. He is cracking tanties when I put him down for naps while my family are here, he hates missing out on anything. It's horrible! I have scratch marks around my neck where he has taken skin off.
I get told Noah is huge all the time too, to which I feel like replying "compared to who!?" or "so are you!" LOL!:D
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[AliyahBlake]

:rolleyes: Another rough night for us last night! When will this end??? Aliyah woke at about midnight with a bleeding nose, then Blake was awake at 1am for a feed and again at 3 - I didn't feed him again as I think it was his teeth - he was chewing madly on his hand, so I gave him nurofen and he went back to sleep pretty quickly. He was then awake at 5:30 for a feed and up for the day at 7!! I don't feel too bad considering, but will probably crash this afternoon. He seems pretty OK now but his teeth are definitely causing problems again as it just took ages to get him off for his morning nap.

He did do one cool thing this morning though - he rolled across the loungeroom floor!! He had a look of shock then thought it was really funny!
Anyway, off to have a look at Facebook, then try and clean up. I still am trying to get this office clean before I go back to work, and my work computer arrives next Monday, so I hope it get it done by then:fingerscrossed:

[Vespera]

Well I had the worst night! Connor must have a growth spurt coming because he woke up 7 times in 11 hours for food!

Honestly I don't know how you guys do it - and of course he is his normal happy play with me mummy self today and I feel like poo :sleeping:

[kaybee]

Ava had a bad night too! Was wide awake and crying/grizzling from 12.30am till 3am! Once she finally went to sleep, I couldn't! Then DH was up for an hour with the runs, then she woke at 6am for a feed. :hair: Feel like Poo today too! Very tried with a headache. She got the sh!ts again at around 9am. Wouldn't feed, just pulling off and grizzling, which escalated to crying. had to leave her to cry while I got us ready for Mother's group. Then she fell asleep on the way there in the Pram. After a good sleep she's is her usual happy self and I just want to sleep.

Need a cuppa.

[AliyahBlake]

I wonder...........is there a full moon at the moment?

[Nan]

Happy 5 Month birthday Caleb and Thomas!

We have just got back from every Mum's rite of passage - the Tupperware Party!..........I bought a set of little containers for Thomas' solids.
YAY! Can you believe they are almost 1/2 a year old already?! I have those little snack cups. Well HAD them. I bought some 6 months ago and I'm down to 1!!! I've lost them.....left them place etc. So I went and bought some cheapo coles ones!!! lol Really need to find my Tupperware ones though.

Thanks everyone. I really appreciate the support.
No worries! :hugs: Glad to hear he's on the mend. Yay for Sophie moving backwards. That's awesome!!

I wish the tooth would just cut already, its so upsetting for all of us. I had wisdom tooth pain a few weeks ago so can imagine how sore the poor bubba is
Oh, poor little man. :hugs:

Seems to be smooth sailing for now which is nice, everything is running like clockwork but it's only been 2 days I s'pose I am going to do some casual work as well so that I can make some more money the bills are piling up.
Glad its working so far. What/who do you teach?

I forgot to ask before - are anyone's hands dry and red raw by the end of the day? Mine are from all the nappy changing! (That's right, DS1 has had his first lack of interest in TT!)
Don't stress about TT. We've had 3 failed attempts!! :o I find the Woolworths brand of wipes make my hands dry red, itchy & cracked. As soon as I switched to something else it stopped. Could be the brand you're using isn't agreeing with your body chemistry.

I don't get it. She was in the 95th percentile for weight at 8weeks (while BF)! How do some kids gain so much??
THAT is the million dollar question!!!! (Sorry I don't actually have $1m to give you! lol) I've done nothing differently in regards to feeding my 2 (both exclusively BF and both routine fed) and Caleb almost weighs as much as Eden. I give him a few more months and he'll be heavier, I reckon!!! So strange isn't it?

Well I had the worst night! Connor must have a growth spurt coming because he woke up 7 times in 11 hours for food!
Ooooooh yuck! They do actually have a growth spurt at 6 months. That's what my community midwife told me. 3 weeks, 3 months, 6 months & I forget the other one! They're the average mind you. Some kids have more! :eek:

He seems pretty OK now but his teeth are definitely causing problems again as it just took ages to get him off for his morning nap.
Good luck with going back to work AB. Hope it works out well for you. Sorry to hear about your bad night.

Well, we're doing ok here. Both kids are napping and I'm having a cuppa. Caleb has been asleep for a couple of hours as he only slept for 30 mins at playgroup this morning. Its his one fault.....he doesn't get to sleep well or stay asleep long in his pram. I'm not complaining though if that's the worst he has to offer!! ;) So different from his sister. She'd sleep in there happily until she about 10-11 months.

I just won 3 pairs of jeans for Eden on ebay for $19 plus postage. Very happy with that. They're all so cute too. Looking forward to putting them on her. She has hardly any winter pants that fit.

Enjoy the arvo ladies. :wave:

[Nan]

I wonder...........is there a full moon at the moment?
:laughing: You'd think so, hey?

[Moops]

Hi Yummy Mummies!


WOW sounds like most bubs are having sleepless nights! Luca hasn't slept well in over 2 months I don't know how much more I can take! Usually DH and I talk about it in the morning before he goes to work ie what time did he get up, how much did he eat? etc etc. This morning we couldn't really remember it all sort of blurs into one! I think it was something like 11,2 and 4, when will this end!!!

Kittylou:hugs:for your little man!

Luca is on the move as well! As of today he is officially crawling! Hmmm time to babyproof the house, and so it all begins!

Speaking of big babies, Luca is quite large as well. I want to know why/how babies are born big or small, how the heck did I make a 9lb 1oz chubber! :laughing:

Better go he's trying to escape from his bouncy chair again, back later

[MrsScatterbrain]

I hate cold weather too - unless I am under a hot shower or in bed lol! It was 3degrees here at 7am yesterday EW! THrough winter we get ice on the grass...hurry up and pass winter!

Ditto! Hurry up Spring! I do love snuggling up under the doona though - you just can't do that in summer!


I have those little snack cups. Well HAD them. I bought some 6 months ago and I'm down to 1!!!

Don't stress about TT. We've had 3 failed attempts!! I find the Woolworths brand of wipes make my hands dry red, itchy & cracked. Could be the brand you're using isn't agreeing with your body chemistry.

Caleb has been asleep for a couple of hours as he only slept for 30 mins at playgroup this morning. Its his one fault.....he doesn't get to sleep well or stay asleep long in his pram. I'm not complaining though if that's the worst he has to offer!!

:laughing: That's why I had to buy a new set! For Ben's solids I used the Heinz ones, and they are now in the garden, toy box and bath toy box! It wasn't worth resurrecting them!


Thomas does exactly the same as Caleb! He barely sleeps at all when we're out! :hair: Worse still, he won't catch up on it when we get home. As we're out every morning (all Ben's activities are in the morning), his sleep is always mucked up! :hissy: He gets overtired straight away. When Caleb is catching up, does he need resettling?


:hugs: Hugs to those who are having bad nights. It must be some sort of force in the universe!


I am reinstating Thomas' dreamfeed! He's started asking for feeds at 3.5 hours during the day, so he is missing his lost night feed. I have noticed he drinks heaps overnight as he's distracted during the day - so be it. :p Let the man eat! I'm actually a little glad - I quite missed our peaceful dreamfeeds! (And struggled to sleep without them!)

[sandralee]

Luca hasn't slept well in over 2 months I don't know how much more I can take! Usually DH and I talk about it in the morning before he goes to work ie what time did he get up, how much did he eat? etc etc. This morning we couldn't really remember it all sort of blurs into one! I think it was something like 11,2 and 4, when will this end!!!


Hehe Welcome to the world I lived in for 5 1/2mths!!! I wouldn't wish it on anyone!! ANd trust me, just getting out of bed even SIX times a night would have been pure heaven! He had 3 great nights, and also a few great day sleeps on and off, last night was a bit sketchier but still great..and tonight (still have a housefull of people) I have been in twice to resettle since he went to bed at 6pm. Seems ok now though. He has been a bit touchier than usual the past couple of days, but I think that is from lots of family staying here, & surrounding him.
Yay for Luca crawling! XXXXXXXXX:yelclap:

[sandralee]

Ditto! Hurry up Spring! I do love snuggling up under the doona though - you just can't do that in summer!
)


**********Hey.. LOL... I am just hoping that I get to snuggle under the covers for at least a couple of hours without disturbance!!!:D
xx

[sandralee]

I am actually going to bed lol - my mum and sister have passed out on Noah's play area.. and dad is yawning. The little man seems to have exhausted us all today! Might have to try and swing an early dreamfeed cos I don't think I can stay awake.. still hit and miss with those.. he has been drinking less at bedtime, with no solids, small ammt (if any) at dreamfeed.. yet he has been sleeping better than ever. I can't work him out for the life of me so I give up trying! :D
p.s. on a different note - I wondered why I have had spotting for 2wks with AF.. only just occurred to me today lol - I didn't stop taking the pill at all!! Must be paranoid about falling preg right now huh? Too scared to stop taking the pill, even with AF LOL!
Sweet dreams!!!!!!
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KittyLou if you need anything please promise to let me know, being stuck at home is no fun when you are a mummy! We need stuff. Constantly. And lots of it. :hugs: Like wine... hey Shana baby? :D Anyhoo.. xxxxxxxx

[AliyahBlake]

Luca is on the move as well! As of today he is officially crawling! Hmmm time to babyproof the house, and so it all begins!

Speaking of big babies, Luca is quite large as well. I want to know why/how babies are born big or small, how the heck did I make a 9lb 1oz chubber!

:yelclap: Yay Luca!! Now you're going to have supersonic hearing and eyes in the back of your head, Moops LOL!! I reckon all mums are a mix of the Bionic Woman and Wonder Woman :laughing:

Speaking of Wonder Women - I know, Moops - I still can't work out how 5 foot 4 and 57kg of little me could push out a 9lb 5oz bruiser like Blake! I also can't work out how I'm still intact after that!:laughing:




I am reinstating Thomas' dreamfeed! He's started asking for feeds at 3.5 hours during the day, so he is missing his lost night feed. I have noticed he drinks heaps overnight as he's distracted during the day - so be it. :p Let the man eat!
Blake's decided to reinstate the dreamfeed himself (although it can't be a dreamfeed if he wakes and asks for it I guess!). He's just decided to throw his old routine out the window and make up a new one - nice of him just before I go back to work! He now wakes at around 9:30 or 10pm for a feed - looks like my half hour break at work might have to coincide with that:rolleyes: Lucky I'm working from home! Blake's still having 4 hourly feeds during the day with solids in between, but seems to drink more at night too.

Last night was interesting as we started Operation Daddy Feed........I bathed Blake and did the usual night time stuff, all except for the bottle feed. Blake screamed for about 30 mins while poor Craig tried to get him to take the bottle from him, but it didn't happen as Blake exhausted himself and fell asleep without the feed! Hopefully it'll get easier - Blake's acting the same way he did for me when I first started giving him the bottle at night, so there's light at the end of the tunnel! Blake did sleep very well last night though - was awake at 9:30pm, 4 am and then 7:30am :smiliedance:

[shymmer]

Morning ladies,

Sorry, no personal just at the moment (getting ready to hit the shops) . . . just a quick question for Kittylou: may I ask where you got the horse shaped floor cushion you had Sophie sitting in the other day? I thought I did see them somewhere but for the life of me can't remember where now. I'd love to get one for Xav.
I hope your DS is up and at 'em by now, even if slowly :).

ok - must wake Xav up to go to shops. I'm on a spending spree at the moment :D. Tsk tsk tsk. Buying completely unessesary things, but you know . . .
Actually, I'll confess; I spoke to Dh about having more kids the other night and he said 'well, I spose we should have one more. But we can't have too many b/c it costs so much to get them braces and everything.' :rolleyes: So I feel a bit mad that the decision to have x number of kids is a financial one - when we can certainly afford to get them braces if they need them. He earns decent money. It's just such a silly thing to say. My parents raised 5 kids on much less than Dh earns, and we didn't miss out on anything important.
So I'm punishing him. :o If he thinks more kids are too expensive . . . I can make this one child very expensive if I wish . . . . . :p.
Ahhh, so childish of me, I know. But I went out of my way to buy second hand things so as not to spend excessive amounts on the nursery etc, when we could have afforded it. So I feel a bit ripped off.
Sorry. My whinge for the day.

Have a good one ladies . . . catch you later.

[melbryan]

Well I am working a full week this week so this a quick one.
Hope all the bubbas get better at sleeping and the crawlers wow that is amazing.

Busy at my house not much happening was looking forward ot a sleepin this morning but have to work Thirs and Fri.
It's so cold here and just got AF so just want to snuggle up in bed. Been some good TV of late though and can't go to bed early enough.
Does anyone watch Ladette to Lady, it is hilarious.
Working 5 days keeps the house tidy at least.
Take care all.....

[Kittylou]

Hey girls, I've been jumping on and reading but no energy for posting.

Blake is still no better really. He still can't move and is in a lot of pain when we have to move him. I haven't had much sleep as he is not sleeping well due to the pain and discomfort from being in a cast. We went to the doctor yesterday (not our usual one but I really liked this guy so thinking of changing) and he said that he is inclined to think that it is a fractured tibia. He said that they often can take a few days to appear on an x-ray so we are off for another x-ray tomorrow morning. It seems the most likely explanation at the moment as Blake has no pain in his knee whatsoever and is very specific about localised pain in his shin. So, anyway, he put some more strapping on his leg to further immobilise it but said there wasn't really much more we could do before getting the x-ray.

Shana & Sandra, thanks for the offers. Unfortunately Sophie has only been having 3 x 30 minute sleeps or thereabouts every day this week so I'm not getting a chance to rest during the day. My Dad has come over yesterday and today to give me a break and a chance to get out and get anything we need.

Shana, the zoo pillow is my sister's and I'm not sure where she got it but I have definitely seen them at the baby shop at Big Top on Logan Rd at Mt Gravatt. They're great for breastfeeding and now obviously for sitting up :thumbsup:.

Anyway, hope everyone is having a good day. Will let you know the results of the x-ray tomorrow. :fingerscrossed: we actually get some answers...

[sandralee]

Woohoo SHana - have fun shopping!!!:D:D So many gorgeous baby clothes out there.. and accessories...and toys...and gadgets... and WINE! hehe we made some mango daquiris last night that were rather yummy. Any time my family visit, they are so exhausted by 7-8pm and I get into fits of giggles watching them drop off one by one. My sister looked at me this morning & said "how do you manage to stay awake every day?"
Well all my family have left, the house is so quiet! We had our gastric paed appt & he is going to monitor Noah on losec for another week or two - if he gets worse he wants to put him 'under' for an endoscopy, just to see what's happening on the inside & figure out which is the best route to take from here. Sounds scarey but it is only a 15min procedure, and I would be with him until he went out like a light. (which would be freaky to watch seeing as how he is so active all the time!)
Does anybody elses babies throw tantrums yet lol? Noah loves this avent sippy cup thatwe bought a few weeks ago, and since day one he has screamed the house down if we so much as TOUCH it! He just screamed for 15mins with tears pourin down his cheeks - I shouldn't laugh but it was kind of funny to watch!:Dxx

[Nan]

G'day everyone. Quick personals before I get dinner ready.

When Caleb is catching up, does he need resettling?
Sometimes. More often than not he goes to sleep on his own in his cot, he usually only needs cuddles if somewhere else! Yesterday was weird. He woke after 40 mins, cried for about 5mins, went back to sleep for an hour or so, woke whinging, went back to sleep, woke crying again after another hour, then went back to sleep. Bizarre. So he slept around 3 hours but woke a few times, which he never does. He settled himself every time though. That's the cool thing. :yelclap:

Does anyone watch Ladette to Lady, it is hilarious.
No, I don't but I wish I had time to!! The whole concept sounds great. I hope you have a good week and don't get too tired.

I went out of my way to buy second hand things so as not to spend excessive amounts on the nursery etc, when we could have afforded it. So I feel a bit ripped off.
I've bought SO much 2nd hand stuff, but mostly because I like it better than some of the new stuff that's out there! I'd get new if I liked it more. I must admit the only reason we'd stop at 2 kids would be financial as well. We could afford 3, but are both really missing some of the lifestyle things we used to be able to afford.....both time-wise and money-wise. Selfish, I know.......still deciding on no.3!! :confused:

kittylou - All the best for DS's tests.

Lots of :goodvibes: positive sleep vibes to those who need them.

Oh, and I LIKE winter.........hot chocolate, snuggling under the doona, electric blankets, fluffy slippers, flanny PJs, watching the rain from the heated comfort of inside. Its just a pity Adelaide doesn't have a good variety of indoor kids venues, coz you still have to get out or you go nuts........well, I do anyway!

Ooooooohh, almost forgot. I got a bargain dress for my cousin's wedding this weekend. $35 on sale!!!! Woohoo! Its a gorgeous Sapphire blue colour, floaty material, gathered under the bust with diamontes (sp??) to hold the gathering in place iykwim! My budget really couldn't afford much more & I've worn the same dress to the last 3 weddings I've been to. lol

Sorry for the 'blah'. Just needing to share random stuff! Haven't really spoken that much to Shane this week. Feel like 2 ships passing in the night. Hopefully it ends soon.
xoxoxoxo

[Moops]

Hi everyone

How you all doing?

Shana - I know it seems silly to have to plan your future around money, I am ruled with my heart not my head! Saying that though, I have spent SOOOOO much money on Luca so far. We go for a two hour walk everyday, usually to the shops and I just seem to buy stuff I don't need! I often find bags with my purchases in that I've forgotten that I've bought! :o

Sands - I think Luca throws tantrums as well! If he doesn't want to go in his chair he arches his back, screws up his face and yells!

Well another day another bad night, I know I sound like a broken record. Luca usually goes to bed at 7 but for some reason last night he didn't go till 8.30! Then he was up at 1,3,5 and 7 but we only had to feed him at 5 which was one good thing. I have no idea why he wakes up and needs resettling, any ideas??!!

I think I'm going to have to lower his cot tonight, he's now crawling and hitting his head on the edge of the cot! I'm terrified he's going to get out of it!!

[sandralee]

[quote=Moops;2613107

Sands - I think Luca throws tantrums as well! If he doesn't want to go in his chair he arches his back, screws up his face and yells!

Well another day another bad night, I know I sound like a broken record. Luca usually goes to bed at 7 but for some reason last night he didn't go till 8.30!
I think I'm going to have to lower his cot tonight, he's now crawling and hitting his head on the edge of the cot! I'm terrified he's going to get out of it!![/quote]

******Same with Noah - he goes ballistic if he doesn't want to do something...ballistic if it's bedtime and he isn't in 'the mood' for sleep (as soon as I get him to kiss nemo and a jellyfish on his nursery door, he has a quick think about it and guesses what comes next..) He actually has a fiesty little personality like his mmmy - we are both saggitarians lol! <and the sooner he learns that there is only room for ONE bossy sagg in the house, the better LOL!:laughing:>

I have been wondering about when I will have to do the same thing! Noah has really strong arms and legs.. it's only a matter of time.. but it's a bummer that it involves leaning even further down into the cot, lol, I am not a gymnast!

I often feel weird when something different happens with Noah's routine, so I can imagine how it is for a baby. Every now and then he has gone to bed earlier or later than 7, & it puts me out of kilter - or something different happens, or we have added something new to our routine. I have a confession though, he is in bed closer to 6-6.30pm these days so I can watch big brother lol!!! Yes I have no shame & I don't feel guilty! Wouldn't do it for any other show and will aim to put it back to 7pm again as the season wraps up. Plus it gets lighter again, so 6pm would be too early.
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[MrsScatterbrain]

**********Hey.. LOL... I am just hoping that I get to snuggle under the covers for at least a couple of hours without disturbance!!!
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I did think of that as I wrote it! (But just think, for every time you get out from under your snuggly doona, you get to experience that blissful feeling when you first get in again!) :laughing: Oh well, you've got to see the positive side, don't you!


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[COLOR="Magenta"]Blake's decided to reinstate the dreamfeed himself (although it can't be a dreamfeed if he wakes and asks for it I guess!). He's just decided to throw his old routine out the window and make up a new one - nice of him just before I go back to work!

Oh, crud! Hopefully once his solids are more established he'll give it up again. He might be in a growth spurt, too, and won't need as much soon.



Blake is still no better really. He still can't move and is in a lot of pain when we have to move him. I haven't had much sleep as he is not sleeping well due to the pain and discomfort from being in a cast.

So sorry to hear about your poor little man still being in pain - I hope the xray tomorrow sheds some light on his injury. Lots of these for you - :hugs:


Any time my family visit, they are so exhausted by 7-8pm and I get into fits of giggles watching them drop off one by one. My sister looked at me this morning & said "how do you manage to stay awake every day?"

I KNOW! We have visitors who sleep in until 9am after sleeping all night, then complain all day about being tired!! Hello? Lol!


I must admit the only reason we'd stop at 2 kids would be financial as well. We could afford 3, but are both really missing some of the lifestyle things we used to be able to afford.....


:iagree: I can't give up our 'luxuries' full time! I love the idea of #3 (and trying for a girl! :o) but I don't think I'd cope with the reality very well (especially with no fam around).

Congrats on your cheap dress - I have worn the same dress to the past 2 weddings, too! (Oh well, different groups of people!)



Well another day another bad night, I know I sound like a broken record. Luca usually goes to bed at 7 but for some reason last night he didn't go till 8.30! Then he was up at 1,3,5 and 7 but we only had to feed him at 5 which was one good thing.

:hugs: The reason DS1 would wake all the time was that he was falling asleep in a different place (our arms) to what he was sleeping in (cot). He's wake up and freak out. I'm sorry, that's all I can think of - do you settle Luca in your arms? - I'm sure you've said before, but I'm hard of remembering!

Not much to report today - Thomas is turning into a giggle girt! DS1 and Thomas have giggling competitions! So cute!! :goodvibes:

Do any of you bf'ers still use nursing pads? I am chained to them! If I don't wear them, I get a nice wet surprise all down my front! Lol! Yuck! I didn't have this with DS1!!

[perrywinkle]

Hello All,

Been really busy lately I'm absolutely exhausted and another busy day tomorrow. Going to get DS a hair cut in the morning and Alice has a doctors appointment tomorrow. Have already emailed AB about this just for peaces of mind LOL but she has a hard lump about the size of a pea under her nipple and her nipple is bright red. So most likely an infectin but I'm still worried! Will report back tomorrow afternoon but everything should be fine. She's had it since Tuesday and I thought it would have gone by now but it's still there.

Alice is doing really well at night. Last night we woke once at 4am. And I went out to an Undercover wear party and when I got home and hopped into bed i just couldn't get to sleep. My body was so tired but my brain was buzzing!!! FRUSTRATING!!!

MrS - haven't used Breast pads for a while now. I still get a full on let down and always look down there but no boobie milk. I will wear them if I'm going out and know that if I have to feed her just in case.

Have a good night ladies!!

[sandralee]

AB - I hope your boob heals quickly! Those lumps can be really painful, but apply a heat pack, then gently massage it. xxxxx

KittyLou - sending you some 'peace and sanity' vibes, and more healing vibes to BLake xxxxx

We had another great night - put him into bed drowsy and he kicked around a bit before falling asleep on his own, no crying though... then dreamfeed at 10pm (80mls).. and he only woke one at 12.30, before getting up for the day at 6.30am! YAY

SHana did you do much damage shopping? :D

Sasa - are you feeling better now?

Hugs to everyone who is juggling work AND moterhood!!!!!!!!

That dvd I bought 'the sleepeasy solution' seems really good so far, I am really enjoying watching it in 5 min increments lol! It seems really gentle and loving.

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[shymmer]

Morning ladies,

Sands - what a terrific night for you! I bet both you and Naoh are feeling so much better with a few hours decent sleep under your belts!

PW - hope you get some rest soon and the Doc can fix the lump on Alice's chest. Does sound like a blocked duct or something doesn't it? You wouldn't think that would happen in a baby :confused:. I hope there is a simple solution for it.

Mrs S - how lovely it must be to hear Thomas giggling up a storm! Amazing how they respond to other children isn't it? They know the difference between another child/baby and an adult already!

Well, I have had such a busy week. Been out and about nearly every day! I had fun shopping . . . didn't buy that much though :( . . . but I got a nice big clock for the living room, some warm clothes for Xav and two silky throw rugs to give as gifts.
I met up with a lady from my antenatal class, nice to catch up with her, she is lovely. Going to see another good friend of mine this arvo who is expecting #2 in December.
And all weekend we are begining to renovate an investment property to rent out. I'm not looking frwrd to that with bubs to entertain and feed and keep clean etc. :rolleyes:

Ok, Xav is sick of being in the walker . . have a good day girls.

[sandralee]

Oh I read the post wrong, it was a lump in Alice's nipple, not AB's.... no excuses here cos I slept well lol!
Andy was born with a lump under each nipple and still has them. I took him to a few paed's just to make sure and they all said it was hormonal. (hehe, there is that word again!) They said when he is older they can be removed if they bother him, otherwise there is nothing to worry about. Don't know if that helps, but thought I would add a possibility into the mix for you. Can be stressful until you know though, and I would be lying if I said it didn't bother me.. cos even dr's can be wrong at times. That's why any time I take him for a checkup, and we are seeing a new dr I always mention it. xxxxxxxxx

[kaybee]

Do any of you bf'ers still use nursing pads? I am chained to them! If I don't wear them, I get a nice wet surprise all down my front! Lol! Yuck! I didn't have this with DS1!!

I get a let down that causes the other side to leak when I feed. Usually only in the morning, when they are full. So I only use pads when I go out, just in case, like PW.


Alice has a doctors appointment tomorrow. Have already emailed AB about this just for peaces of mind LOL but she has a hard lump about the size of a pea under her nipple and her nipple is bright red. So most likely an infectin but I'm still worried!

Ava has one too. It's not really red though (just slightly) and doesn't seem to hurt. Saw the Gp the other week and he said, most likely hormonal. But if it gets bigger or starts to bother her, could be a blocked duct. Either are very normal. He said we'll check it again at her 6 months vax. If the Doc is worried, they'll do an ultrasound on it to check. Hope it turns out ok for Alice.

Well she only woke up twice. 12.30am - DH tried to settle her, then wanted to bring her in with us. I said only if you're planning to look after her. He turned around and went back to the nursery and eventually got her to sleep! At 3.30am I got up and she settled quite quickly.