need advise ivf or tubal ligation reversal

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:I had my tubes clipped 11yrs ago,i was wondering if any has any advise,as im tossing between having the tubal ligation reveral or go for the ivf.:confused:Its been playing on my mind for a while now as i have booked doctors for both procedures and i need to make up my mind and cancel one of them.It would be great to hear from someone in my shoes.

[motherof4]

i had a tubal ligation done 8 years ago . i was told that it would be easy to do ivf they cost the same and there is more chance of pregnancy with ivf . it comes down to what you wont to do . and see the doctors get all info and see how you feel then i was told to do ivf as i have three c/section that why they said to do ivf :wave: feel free to talk if you like :)

[dearmum]

To Motherof4

Hi:wave:thanks for your advise ,its a hard choice for me as they are both an option.I have decided to do 1 cycle of ivf and if it fails i will go for the operation.How did you go with ivf?any side affects,did you get pg?my appt is on the 4/4.That will be a good day:)Hope to hear from you again.:wave:

[motherof4]

:) i did ivf last year i had no side affects at all i was very worry that i would all went well got 5 eggs and two made it but no pg :no:better luck next time it cost so much have to save to go again soon i hope what ever choice you make you get a bfp it is a hard road for everyone but we still do it talk soon :wave:

[didlesdines]

Hi,

I am in the same boat, I had mine done in late 2003 and have regretted it since, I have debated wheather to go for the reversal, but cost big $$$$, or go through IVF. To me I have not decided which, For IVF I have to get approval from my neurosurgeon (long story) but reversal I could have done straight away. The reversal I looked into going to Melbourne as at the royal womens they have no charge. but alot of travel, oh it is nice to speak to others!!!!!

Diana

[dearmum]

Thanks Ladies its nice to have someone to talk to.I do wish the both of you good luck,When i had my last child the Doc said he will put a clip on my tubes and when i wont another baby just come in and take it off,it sounded so simple then,but ever since i had it done i regreted the whole thing,funny since that day i had been wishing some how the Doc didnt do his job properly so i could fall pg.Anyway i do have 4 great kids 2boys&2girls so i should be gratefull.I will give both ivf & tubal reversal a go if i have to.I will keep you guys informed on my progress:wave:

[motherof4]

i have 4 children to i am greatfull for that there are alot of ladies on here that have beening trying for years and my heart gos out to them all . i was told that i should not have anymore children because of having 3 c/s and i regret having my tubals done .so much i have wonted a other baby for a long time i hope everyone get there baby that they wont so bad :) talk to yours later :flowerz:

[Nae]

Hello Girls,

I also had a TL about 11 years ago, after my 2nd child... Divorced about the same time, Re-married and have always wanted to give my hubby a child, always thought that the cost of either IVF or TL was above our finances.

Looked into the Tubal Reversal and was told that seeing that they were clamped along time ago that there would be tubal scarring, so the tubes would have to be cut and sown back together and then pray that it worked. The cost was approx $7k with nothing back from medicare and if I went ahead then I wouldn't know if it worked until after a year later.

My Dr. recommended that we try IVF, I thought where am I going to get the $10k plus for IVF...that's what I thought it cost:o and let go of my dream for another baby for about 5 years.

One night on the computer, bored and feeling sorry for myself (stupid really, seeing that I am blessed with 2 great kids and woman have been trying for years to have a child) I found the Westmead Fertility Clinic. Look at the website and found that for a IVF cycle it would cost approx $1450.00 and we would get about $600 to $800.00 back...depending on the safety net.

So in January this year, I had my first cycle of IVF - produced 6 eggs, 4 fertilized and we put 2 back in.. after my 2ww I was sure that I was going to get a BFP but I didn't. That's okay, I am now in my 2nd cycle and pick up my meds on the 15.4.2008 - I am going to do things different this cycle..Like rest and more rest, you know take the "WonderWoman" cape off and let the rest of my family work it out for themself...:laughing:

I hope that my story helps you make your decision and I wish you all the best.

Kindest Regards

Renea:fingerscrossed:

[dearmum]

Hi Didlesdines:wave:thanks for sharing your story,I suppose if i was your age and i could get the operation free i would do that first because you still have time on your side.As for me well im going to do 1 cycle of ivf and if it dosnt work ill go for the operation.Im just a little worried about the side affects of the drugs and the whole idea about injecting myself:(Im in Perth the costs for ivf is approx $2000 and the operation will be $4500 but for me is not the cost factor im 36 so i dont want to wait to long for another baby.Good luck i do hope you make up your mind and i know how your feeling.Keep intouch id love to know how you got on.:wave:

[dearmum]

Hi Nae:wave:Your story sounds like mine;)I think severe years ago the ivf prices were very expensive.How was your first ivf did you have any side affects?You sound very positive thanks for that :goodvibes:By the way how old are you and your kids?My babies are 19,17,16,11.I hope this time around you get pg:smiliedance:

[Shadek]

Dearmum-Hi I also had my tubes done mine where done in 2000 thought my days of wanting a child were done and due to divorce thought it was a good thing to do :yes:.
I also looked into having my tubal ligation undone.
I was told there would be only a 20% chance of falling pregnant if I was lucky due to the time I have had my tubes done.
I was told with IVf there was a 30% chance so we took the IVF road.
It took sometime 12 months to fall pregnant 5 Transfers & many tests.
One thing I will say is after my first transfer not working I was a mess It took sometime for me to deal with WHY it didnt work after all it was only my tubes being done that was stopping Dh and I falling on our own.
We are now 24.5 weeks pregnant this will be my 4th child I have a Boy 17.5 & two Girls 15 & 11 this will be Dh's First.
Wish you all the best:hugs:

[Nae]

Hello DearMum,

My first IVF wasn't as bad as I thought that it would be.. The nasal spray irratated me more, than injecting myself. My only side effects were my mood swings, but my DH would say that I didn't need to be doing IVF to have them:laughing:.
The day of the transfer I was so nervous, not knowing how many eggs I had cooked up and sitting in the room and seeing other women come out with 18 and 32 written on the back of there hand was a deflating, seeing that I only had 6. But it only takes one. The 2 that I had put back in were starting to compact and my RE said to me "How do you feel about twins!" I left the transfer feeling like nothing would go wrong.. But it did and I am not worried about it not working the 1st time, just cranky with myself for not taking it as easy as I probably should have.. Funny thing is, I left the IVF clinic that day of the transfer and didn't feel any different and went home and went about my business....This time I have brought some really good books that I have put away and will read them whilst laying around like the queen for 2 weeks...lol That's my plan.

Don't worry about the injections to much, I have to say that I was also really scared at first, but it looks like a pen and it's over before you know it... Some days I had to check the vile to make sure that I had injected myself as I really didn't feel anything... Probably had something to do with the fact that I was pinching that area so hard that, that was hurting the most:D

My DD is 18 and my DS is 13. I am 38 and my DH is 39. So IVF is really my only chance now.

When is your appointment with the IVF Clinic?

Kind Regards

Renea

[didlesdines]

Wow more of us!

I know time is on my side but it is so hard when your every waking (and sleeping) is Babies, Babies, BABIES! If I get the okay I will go through IVF, if it is the drugs that will cause an upset then I will go down the reversal path. It really depends on how my medical condition can handle it???

I can understand how you would feel when it didn't work, the thoughts of "my tubes being clamped is the only thing in the way why isn't it working?"

With IVF we are looking at IVF Australia here on the Cemtral Coast, looked into Westmead but for me it is travel as I rely on public transport and it is easier at this clinic, the cost isn't too bad I have Top health cover with HCF and they have told me that all inpatient procedures are 100% covered, but have more coverage with Sydney IVF they have an office on the coast but the price difference is near to $1000 that is a lot.

I wish you ladies all the best and I will be sticking my head in here often!
Diana

[TryingInChicago]

HI -

I just found your thread and it is so nice to have others to discuss IVF with. We do not have the "typical" infertility issues - just a road block.

I have three children; 17,15 &13 and after my divorce I opted for a TL in 1994. I recently remarried a man who is younger and has no children. I too evaluated the options but the TL reversal requires a lot of bed rest -up to two weeks, a greater possibility of tubal pregnancies and a longer waiting period to TTC. IVF seened much more efficient and less harmful to me and my body.

We began the IVF prcess as AF arrived 12/25/07 and on 2/8/08 I had my retreival. We reterived 4 eggs, I had a low response rate with Lupron - too surpressed. Anyway, 2 eggs were fetilized with ICSI and we tranfered 2 perfect grade A 4 cell embyos. On 2/21/09 I got a BFP. At my 9 week ultrasound the baby had stopped growing around 7 weeks, the yolk sack had disappeared and there was no heartbeat.

I had a D&C on 3/27/08. I am terribly sad, however there is a reason that our bodies do this, this was obviously not a good pregnancy, and as much as I wanted the baby it would be unfair of me to wish for a child to have been born with a potentially life threating illness. The pathology report will reveal more.

So we do not dwell on the loss /sadness and devistation - here are the positives: I got pregnant, the mechanics are working, and if you have gotten pregnant before chances are good you will again.

My docotor is one of the best in the US - he is incredible and I trust him with everything -most importantly my dwindling supply of eggs. He said that to have one MC out of 4 pregnancies - 3 of which were live births is actually not unusual. He has encourages us to try again as as soon as AF arrives and he has a different "cocktail" that we will try = no Lupron.

The reason that I felt compelled to write is this: we are not in the traditional "infertility boat" and a lot of us are probably kicking ourselves for voluntarily putting ourselves here. This is a difficult process and there are diffcult decisions to be made but a positive outlook is so important.

I look forward to further discussions with all of you & I am here for any support that I can offer.

[motherof4]

there is lots of us here we should keep this thread and keep each other up date on what we are doing this is great to have other ladies here to talk to about the some stuff can not wait to see bfp here :)

[Nae]

Hello Chicago,

I really enjoyed reading your story and I am so very sorry for your loss, but love your attitude as I am the same.
I know what you mean about not being in the "Traditional infertility boat", and I sometimes feel silly after reading what some of the ladies are and have been going through.

Hello Mumof4,

I agree totally that we should keep this thread going, I have been checking my computer a couple of times a day to see who has left a reply:laughing:.

Let's hope that our journey together brings us all BFP's and if not then we will have each other to help get us there.

Kindest Regards,

Renea

[motherof4]

hello and welcome trying in chicago you have been thought alot my heart gos out to you i hope you get that baby you so wont :) just have something to ask is ivf there cost alot if you dont mind me asking ?


hello nae
me to i look to see if anyone has join us lol:laughing:
we are diff as we all had a TL done which was a good ideal at the time . i so wish i never got push into by the doctors anyway hope to hear from you all soon all have a great day:wave:

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:thanks for all the support it seems you all went down the ivf road rather than the operation.Its taken me 6 Months to come to a decison and my DH couldnt help so im so grateful to you ladies for the support.:yes:My appt is tomorro the 4/3/08 i will keep you all posted.Hope you all have a great day:flowerz:

[TryingInChicago]

Hi Mother of 4,

First let me begin by saying my name is Sally, I should have included that in my initial post.

I am VERY fortunate, my insurance covers 3 IVF cycles and my husband's covers an additional 3. My medications are paid at 100%. As I said we are VERY fortune to have such incredible coverage. I however, could not possibly go through 6 cycles - emotionally could not handle that!

If you were to add up the expenses my meds were about $7,000 and Doctor's fees were about $6000 not including the D&C - so anywhere between $13,000 - $15,000 per cycle.

DearMum,

Good luck tomorrow - follow your heart and do what you feel is best for you!

Sally

[motherof4]

good luck with your app tomo let us know how you go best wishes talk tomo :)

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:I had my appt today but it was a little disapointing because the nurse lady spent 5mins just explaning what to expect and thats it.On Monday i have my Doc appt to see what meds they will give me,then come 19th April i shall be starting the drugs :(Im a little scared but also excited.I had asked the question regarding transfering more than 1 embie as i feel i will have more of a chance for getting PG if they put in 2 but it seems they wont budge,im only allowed 1 with Concept:no:well there goes my wish for twins.Well ladies how was your day today?;)

[Nae]

Hi:wave:
I was thinking about you all day today and hoping that you appointment went well.

My clinic also really only wanted me to have one embie transferred, but after much discussion and weighing up the %'s I was able to transfer 2.
I am also going to transfer 2 again this cycle (god willing, that I get 2). But it only takes one and that can also produce twins, so you never know.

My next app is on the 15.4.2008 for my collection of my meds, our cycle is going to be very close together:smiliedance:

I always think on the way home "Oh, I should of asked them this or that"... So I now carry around a diary and write all my little questions down - even if they are silly and I make sure that I ask them... My DH is convinced that I am being anal:laughing: about the whole thing, but seeing that all he has to do is make a little contribution in a jar, I am allowed to be I told him.:laughing::laughing:

Have a great weekend, look forward to catching up with you next week.

Renea

[motherof4]

please dont be scared . i was so scared of the drugs you will be fine everything will work out and you will think what was i scared of . you will see :) go for it you will been fine ok dont think all of the bad things think of that little baby you will have at the end . i am going to have 2 put back if i get more eggs this time i hope :fingerscrossed: it is the money i have to worry about but we all get there . think you will have what you wont in the end that is the only way to think
talk to you soon from kimberley:wave:

[motherof4]

good luck hope to hear from you soon:wave:

[didlesdines]

I am so pleased that some of you are starting, I vote we keep this thread going!!!! I hear you about not being the traditional infertile couple! My Sister-in-law went through many IVF attempts for her first, her second was natural, and she as well as other family members think I am crazy for wanting another, and whenever I mention oh so and so was so naughty today I get "and you want another one"

I can't help my clock telling me I should be having kids, Yes I had my other darlings early but that does not mean they are not loved or I am replacing them, sometimes people don't get it. Well i have started the count down to see what happens with me, I see the doctor on the 12th of may so nothing else will be happening till then.

Speak to you all soon.

[dearmum]

Hi Didlesdines:wave:I know how you feel when people don't understand you want more kids,because iv been through that everyone is telling me gee your 36 and Dh is 52 why do you want more kids it should be now your time to enjoy yourselves,but im at my happiest when im with my kids i love them to death.Now my babies are all teenage they have became more independent and i feel sad that there growing up to quick.My hubby didn't want to kids at first,but now he supports me all the way he understands how i feel and how i regretted doing the tubal clip.Im realy looking forward to hearing all the stories we will have going through this ivf together:)Until next time:wave:

[motherof4]

yes i know how you both feel everyone looks at me and thinks i am crazy to have anymore kids the thing is i have to look after my children no one else so what does it matter to them if i have 4 or 8 lol if you know what i mean it is up to us and my clock is ticking to i will be 34 this year i just wont one more :)
bye for now :wave:

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:I had my Doc apt today im feeling happy today because my Doc told me i have a good chance.I was given the my drug list and i will be starting the drugs on the 19th so im getting excited :smiliedance:How are you all going???

[motherof4]

i am so happy for you :yelclap::smiliedance:

[didlesdines]

Thats great and quick, who are you going through? Me I am looking at IVF Australia or Sydney IVF on the coast but the price difference are huge, Do mind if I ask how much and if you have any private health cover? Sorry to be nosey! I have top cover throgh HCF and IVF is said to be covered for inpatient things.
Me not much happening, 1 month and 4 days till I see the neuro!!!!!

[Shadek]

Best of luck ladies with your up & coming cycles.
It's a hard road IVF but ohh so worth it :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:

[dearmum]

Hi Didlesdines:wave:I'm going to Concept in Perth they are probably the cheapest.I dont have privet health because when i decided to do ivf i was told you have to have had privet health for at least 1 yr and also the monthly expense was about $300 so nah to expensive concept the total cost will be $2000,but that's cheap because some of them have told me $4500.I bet your looking forward to start everything,i was but i just didn't know which would be more affective,But I'm going to give ivf a go first and if no good ill book my self into having the op.I'm looking forward to start and just get on with it because as you know its been a long process.:wave:keep in touch

[Kachow]

Oh I didn't even know this thread existed !

I'm Stacey and I had my tubes " done" about 5 yrs ago. But little did I know when I met my now husband my thoughts on having no more children would diminish !

I consulted a specialist about having my tubes reversed but the way in which they were cut in the first place was going to make it impossible to re-join. IVF was our only option to conceive a child.

So of the the FS we went. Thinking... how hard can it be !!!! We both thought because we both already had children that it should just work the first time..... and that was that ! ( stupid us ).

Our first ICSI was in July 2007. They retrived 16 egg and 13 fertilized but a fresh transfer resulted in a BFN. The next FET happened in September 2007 and we got a BFP. But unfortunately our baby girls heart wasn't strong enough and we lost her at 18 weeks gestation.

February came around so quickly. Another FET and resulting in a BFN. Our next transfer will be sometime next week. I have my day 11 scan on Friday. Hoping this one works !

I'm so glad I have found others that are not the "traditional infertile couple". Don't get me wrong, I love the support and friendships I have formed her on Bubhub IVF thread but sometimes I find it hard to relate to the things they are going through. I am very thankful for the support everyone gave me for my BFNs and losing Lillie.

Thankyou to everyone :hugs:

[Nae]

Hello Stacey,

I love this thread!!

I am so sorry for your loss, but want to send you a big fat:fingerscrossed: for your FET on the 11th.

I am collecting my meds on the 12th for my 2nd fresh cycle, I am praying for lots of good eggs and hopefully some to freeze this time.

My head is feeling really scrambled today girls and I need to vent....So here goes.

There is a huge family fight that has been going on between on my DH side of the family, basically his brother married a physco and has caused a huge rift... Me, I don't want no part of it and seeing that this girl make my blood boil - I pick and choose which family gatherings I attend (for my own sanity) anyway...My DH's Sister who is pregnant with her 4th child, and has taken out a 2nd mortage on my lovely in-laws place and who put her own house into my DH's other sister's name (hope that you all aren't confused) because they are in serious financial trouble, whilst me and my DH have had to pay the arrears on the 2nd mortage as an agent turned up at my in-laws on the day that my mother in law found out that she had cancer:mad:... this story could go on and on.... but you hopefully get my drift in how I am feeling.

So every week out of our wages, we have to pay $100.00 to make sure that my dear inlaws house is safe...

So my Sister in Law (the pregnant one) said to me the other day that I should not stay away from family gatherings when the other sister in law is there as it shows her that she has won!!!
OH MY GOD...I THOUGHT

I informed her that I choose to stay away as I am trying really hard to stay calm in body and mind for my 2nd IVF cycle and don't need the added stress.... Her Comment..........................." Well it's never going to work, whilst you have that attitude of putting your head in the sand!!" as I mentioned above,,, I am not even involved and made the decision not to be..

What do these people want from me.. I am paying back their debts, trying to have a baby, trying to stay sane, then the icing on the cake is that she wants me to give her a baby shower... then the sprinkle's on the cake is that we have a list of names on our fridge and she has now found out that she is having a boy and has taken our name... when I mentioned this to her, all I got was "You probably won't have a boy and your not even pregnant!"

Sorry to unload all of this here, but I needed to get all of this out of my head...:(

Renea

[didlesdines]

Oh loads of hugs coming your way Honey, Don't get me started on famlies I don't think I will stop! I think you should do what you feel comfortable with don't feel pressured by anyone. Don't worry to much about them, all I do is sit is this vague world and nod when I am with any family. Unload as much as you would like. I know I don't mind and I am sure the other don't either.

Kachow, welcome. I have read some of your posts and first I would like to say I am sorry for your loss and I hope that everything will go well for your next cycle. I think you have faced what most of us fear with being the non-traditional infertile couple, like I try to explain to people yes it was my choice to have my tubes done but hindsight is a wonderful thing and I wish I had it then as I have it now.

Dearmum, Thanks for the information, I am looking at out of pocket costs of either $706 or $1525. I have private health insurance for my other issues staying at private hospitals are much nicer, I am also thinking of the birth after as I will be needing a C-Section (long story and no choice) and as it will be first C-Section I would like to stay in hospital as long as possible as well as the little things like not having feed a child for a long time. The more expensive place, the doctor there I can go through for the pregnancy as well I have heard good reports about him.

Problem is I get ahead of myself as I have not had the go ahead. I am going to the eye specialist tomorrow so maybe I will bring it up with him??? We both would like to start the journey as we don't want to wait.

[Shadek]

Kachow- I didnt know or remember you had your tubes done also that was all that was holding DH & I from falling ourself.
This is a good thread hope it keeps going.

[dearmum]

Hi Kachow :wave:its good to hear more tubal stories,it seems a lot of ladies must be regretting there tubal ligation just like us.Verrry sorry to hear about your loss,it must have been a very dark hole for you at that time.I believe in god so i think everything has a reason,but hey your still going so something must come of it soon,all the best to you keep us posted on your progress k.
Hi Nae:wave:yep seems we all have family problems,my husband an i decided not to get involved with both sides of our family as they all have hurt us,so its just me an me hubby and i think that's helped my marriage because we dont need to fight over them anymore and hey come this August it will be our 20th anniversary.

Hi Didlesdines:wave:back again:)yeh i think your lucky you joined up private health,i do agree with you about staying longer in hospital,i go to government hospitals and i still like staying in there at least 5 days its my holiday time:).

Hi Shadek:wave:hows your pregnancy going?we all wish we were in your shoes atm,already gone through he ivf hassels.Take it easy

[didlesdines]

Yeah, I can't keep away from the place and it is so nice to chat to others who are feeling the same as I am and feeling asthough I am judged about it, family don't get it they are worried about my health and don't understand that I don't want to put myself at risk so if it is not medically possible then I will move on but if it is possible I will move heaven and earth to achieve my little bundle!

[didlesdines]

Well I went to the eye doctor today and there is a procedure they do that could????? fix me up so I could go staright to IVF no issues for that or pregnancy I am getting loads of information in the post soon, I am excited as the pain may go away, but angry on the other hand that it has only taken them 3yrs to think of it!!!
YAY!!!

[Nae]

Hi Girls:wave:,

Didlesdines - I think that is great news that your eye specialist can help with no IVF issues:smiliedance:. I have been thinking about you all day today...waiting for you to update us all. Very Happy.

5 more sleeps until I get my meds for this cycle...strange to be excited about collecting meds I know but...:doh:

All going well, looks like my ET could be on the 16th May..That's is my Dad's birthday and also the anniversary of my biological dad's death. :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: that this will be the one.

Hope you are all well.

Till Next Time...:hugs: for you all.

Renea

[dearmum]

Hi Didlesdines:wave:I'm so happy for you now you can move on and look forward to a new begining,keep us posted.;)


Hi Nae:wave:your getting close to starting I'm getting excited for you,i have 8 sleeps until i start:)but I'm so looking forward to that.I will go see the nurse on Sat and she will let me know all the little details but I'm even excited to go see the nurse its funny.

[didlesdines]

I am so excited about it but worried at the same time, it involves an angiogram but instead of stopping at your heart they have to go all the way to my brain! and the fact you are awake is not sitting comfortable with me I am great with blood and guts, as long as it is not mine!

Hubby is excited too cause it may mean my eye sight will stablize which is great.

I am happy for both of you starting meds, keep me updated.

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:I had my concept apt today to pic up my meds.It was funny my hubby was in there talking about holidays instead of my meds,the nurse didn't seem to mind because she also loves traveling but i felt kind of embarrassed.It all went well and i will be starting the spray on the 19th and i will have my embie transferred in May :yelclap:,How are you ladies going??

[motherof4]

that is great i bet you are excited that you are starting :smiliedance: i would be. i can not start untill aug or sep i hope. with the funds being in our favour
i hope you get lots and lots of eggs that are great
good luck . and that :bfp: is coming your way
talk later kimberley

[Shadek]

Dearmum- All the best with your cycle :fingerscrossed: for you:babydust2::babydust2:

[Nae]

Hello Girls:wave:

Well I had my appointment this morning to pick up my meds:yelclap:

They asked me if I felt confident in collecting all of my meds today, which I did and that is great seeing that I only have to go back now for a blood test, ultrasound, ER & ET. Not like last time when I felt like I was there almost once a week. This is great for me as I was always stressing out about going. Don't know why but I did.

Dosage has increased on the Puregon, and after I took my Syrenal spray shot there my Nurse told me that I could of had a Lucerin injection cycle rather than the Syrenal twice a day - it plays havoc with my nose!! So if I have to do another cycle and hopefully not, then I will do this instead. The injections don't bother me as much as the nasal spray.

I have come home and layed out all of my meds on the kitchen table and decided to get the camera out and take a picture for my baby book:laughing: and I am also going to ask if we can take a picture of the embies on the day of transfer..My DH is really going to think that I have lost my mind this time.

Hope you are all doing well, and look foward to hearing from you all soon.

:kiss::kiss:for you all

[dearmum]

Hi Nae:wave:that's great news for you,it really does feel like getting a show bag.I think the idea if getting photos of your embies is a good idea i might do that to.So will you be stopping the spray?and only going onto the injections?well ill be starting the spray on Saturday yeh im a bit nervus,but its my first try so i don't really know what to expect yet.Its funny you sound very clucky like me,when i take my youngest daughter to the shops we look at baby things and she tells me mum lets by dummies and stuff,as much as i would love to i try and stop myself.Anyway keep me posted on your progress i wish you the best i hope we both get a PG soon.;)

[didlesdines]

That is great, it is exciting that you are starting. I too look at all the baby stuff I could buy so much it is not funny, I have my Daughter telling "oh Mum that is so cute" Well still nothing with me, but only 24 more days till I find out! I have all 3 off one holidays at the moment it is hard finding things to do when it is raining. We went out for lunch yesterday with my parents, it was my Mum's birthday, good thing is my Dad won't take money so that was free. I offered $50 but he told me to put it away.

Today we are off swimming at Mingara, never been there but looks good. Yesterday I got the best news other than I am having a baby. I found out my cousin from England is coming over with her kids as well so I have to get really into my weight loss so I look good and get into decorating my back cabin for them to stay, it is a mess up there!

Don't worry I would take pictures too! It sort of shows how much the little bundle was wanted and how he/she came to be in your family. Let us know how you are travelling.

Take Care Girls!

Diana

[Nae]

Hello Girls:wave:,

Hope you have all had a good week.

If this cycle doesn't work and I don't get any embies to freeze, then I will most definetly be doing the injections. What I don't like about the spray is 1. Rembering that I have to take it at 9.30am and again at 9.30pm...I do remember but I am driving myself insane if I am 5 minutes late.:doh: 2. The side effects, whilst they don't last that long, the headaches that I sometimes get do.
So my thinking is that if I have an injection once a day, then problem solved and seeing that I have to inject anyway may as well just inject all the way...lol

I am always lingering in the baby section...I must looked so silly just looking and mothers must think I am a strange one, when I smile at there babies or tell them how cute they are...I really do look stupid. I have got everything planned, from what cot, pram, etc... The nursery colours, Just need the baby and fingers crossed we will all be pregnant together.... Now that would be special!

I like going out with my parents also, my Dad is exactly the same. I have been to Mingara Pools a couple of times, when I visit my family at the coast. It's really good fun, if you can get over the chlorine smell:laughing: but I like it there.

School Holiday aren't so much of a nightmare for me these days, only DS at school and he just wants to go to the skate park with all of his buddies and my DD is working and it's just me at home... I work from home for a farmer (who lives approx 600k's away..lol Great Boss), and I start work every day at 8.30 and finish at 1.00, so I have the rest of the day free to whatever, generally housework and cooking:ecomcity::ecomcity:.

Anyway girls, have a great weekend.

Dear Mum, Good Luck with starting your cycle on Saturday - I will be thinking of you.

Kindest Regards,:hugs:

Renea

[didlesdines]

Don't get me started on the equipment! Haha I have it all worked out, not a exact pram picked but I have a short list!
Wouldn't it be great! if we all had bubs together but for me I am still on the waiting list, I would love to see the IVF doctors but with the uncertainty behind everything I would feel like I would be wasting there time. But it would be good to have all the tests done and all then once I get the go ahead (thinking positive here) I can start asap!
pool was good now we all stink, made a little stop at Krispy Creme on way home. Yummo!

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:this week has been one of my longest weeks ever,just waiting for that Saturday to start.Um i have a question when i start my spray do i have to stick to that times exactually?hmm starting to panic now.If i dont hear from you guys its ok i will call them in da morning.Its funny seems we all do the same when we come to the baby section,yep i know what i wont this time around,i must say im getting fussier this time around,wanting nicer and more expensive baby goods.I sometimes think its nicer to have babies when we are older because we are so ready for them and we appreciate life more.When i had my first child i was only 17 but even back then i was clucky too,the days just went so quick and before i realised my sons now 18.Hope you ladies have a nice weekend.;)

[dearmum]

Hi ladies:wave:back again!yep im now on the ivf road,i done my first spray today and im waiting for side affects.the spray seemed fine but you get the after taste in your throat yuk.This morning i woke up thinking it must be time for my spray at 9am but it was only 630 it was such a count down that i ended up spraying at 855 yep i couldnt wait the extra 5mins:laughing:well have a good weekend

[didlesdines]

That is why I hate nasual sprays! You couldn't wait another 5 mins haha! I was wondering how you went. Me I am a forgetful one with medicatins I have to set an alarm! Good luck with it fingers crossed, no everything is crossed that things go great!

[dearmum]

Hi Didlesdines:wave:yeh im always forgetful with meds.Last night i was 30min late to take my spray opps,i think i need to by one of those noisey alarms.Thats one of the reasons i turned to tubal ligation because i was always forgetting the pill.How you going with the school holidays are the kids driving you crazy yet?well three of my kids are teenages so they are always out an about but my youngest is 11 and shes always bored.Im a taxi driver to them all hmmm.I usally go overseas for the school holidays but this time we have just moved homes so a bit short on money.Well take it easy have a good day:)

[motherof4]

how are you going with everything ?:)

[dearmum]

Hi Motherof4:wave:nice to hear from you.Well iv been going ok but im starting to worry if the spray is working because i havnt had any affects im not even grumpy,and im thinking it might be because i was spraying any nosrel at first hmm i might give them a call.How did you go when you were on the spray?i should be starting the injections on the 31st not something im looking forward to.I guess this whole ivf is a bit of a hassel because im having to worry about the time all the time.Im just wishing i will only need to do this once and get pregie but deep down im not to confident.I guess if it dosnt work at some point i will go for the reversal and let nature take place.So how have you been?your Month must be getting closer to starting?You know sometimes i feel a bit guilty having this ivf on my mind all the time because i have my kids,but i know they will love a new baby in the family.Well have a good day keep smiling:)

[didlesdines]

You be happy!!!!!! It is something you want, Glad things are going well, school holidays are hell! I complained to hubby and I got, You want another one? It is the weather and being stuck inside, went bowling the other day instead of putt putt, and we have the anzac march on friday and hubby is off for 2 weekends!!!! yay! I got my AF today and well I hate it, deep down I always think could I be pregnant, but know it can't happen but would be a nice miracle if it did, I say to hubby I have a 1 in 500,000 chance to get the medical condition I have IIH (for short) why can't I be in the 1-2 per 1000 that the tubal ligation fails? oh well will keep popping in, good luck with the needles.

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:how was your weekends?

Well im waiting for af to arrive so i can start with injections as always things go so slow when your wanting them to be quick.

Yah school holidays are over back to a routine thank goodness.

Nae :wave:how are you going?

[Nae]

Hello Girls:wave:,

Sorry that I haven't been in touch for the last week. I have had a syranel headache and severe mood swings, which I hope are now under control.... My DH has threatened me that they better be... I have been a nightmare to live with. Injections start on Wednedsay for me, so look out I told him.

I don't know why, but this cycle I have had more side effects and I am sure that I am more relaxed about the whole cycle this time... God only knows what is going on.

Went to a wedding on the weekend and it was really nice to go out, just me and the hubby... I had to laugh he went to the bar and got me a glass of wine, forgetting that I am in a cycle - well so did I and had 2 glasses of wine...I felt very relaxed for the entire night after them.

Glad that school holidays is over, my DS goes back to school tomorrow - I can't complain to much he hasn't been any trouble. Actually he is the only one that I seem to like at the moment..:laughing:

Glad that all of our cycles are within a week or two of each other.

Hope all is well.:flowerz:

Kindest Regards

Renea

[didlesdines]

I was wondering how you girls are travelling, I kept popping in and no word yet and to find out you post right after I have left. Nae, hope the side effects are not too bad. and that you had a good time with your hubby. Thank god holidays are over!!!!!!!!!! That is all I can say.
Not long now girls I am getting excited but I will be upset if I can't but I will think positive! If I get the go ahead I will be going to see a doctor to get all information I can get.
I am off chat to you later girls.

[motherof4]

sorry i have not got back for some time .
dearmum i had no side affects so dont worry not everyone gets them so keep doing what you have to you will be fine :). and i know what you mean about
thinking about ivf all the time i do too . and to didlesdine i hope you get the go ahead think positive . to nae i hope you are feeling better things get easy as time gos on you will be fine hope to hear
some :bfp: come on girls :smiliedance:

[motherof4]

just wont to know how many embryos are you having transfer . ? :)

[dearmum]

Hi Motherof4:wave:sadly im only allowed to transfer 1.
I do think its our body and we should be allowed to transfer how many we want hmm.You know i was so hoping for a chance to have twins as there is none in the family,i love the idea of dressing twins up in the same clothes ect.

Sometimes i feel depressed on what iv done to myself having the tubal ligation and my hubby reminds me that i shouldnt of had it done.If i could rewind my time i would of had 12 children all 1half yrs apart as iv noticed from the TV program kids by the dozen the families seem so happy and the kids help each other out.

Sorry about my depressing way today as im expecting AF.

Hope you have a great day:flowerz:

[Nae]

Hello Girls,

I am hoping to put back in 2. My FS really only likes to put one back in, but after much discussion and considering my age he agreed that 2 would give me a better chance.

I put 2 back in last cycle and will again this cycle - hopefully I get some eggs. Last cycle I got 6 eggs and 4 fertizled. Hoping for more this cycle.

Started my injections this morning... had a total mind blank and thought that I had to give myself an injection morning and night, it was my DS who reminded me that last cycle it was only one injection per day...I have lost it.

My parents were over yesterday afternoon and my Dad who generally doesn't say much, was quiet amazed by the whole ivf process.. to the point that if it doesn't work this cycle that he is adament that I should try again straight away - and should always put back 2 eggs, etc, etc.. He was so funny and caring about the whole experience, saying that he will pay for my IVF if I can't afford it - here I was thinking that he may of been opposed to me having a 3rd child, but he is very much on board and very supportive - just what I needed to hear yesterday.

Motherof4 - hope AF arrives today, its really frustrating to want it to come when we need it to and devasting when it does and we don't.... to be a man somedays..lol

Hope you are all well and I will check in again tomorrow.

Have a good day

Renea

[motherof4]

i feel the some as you about having my tubals done .
what has been done is done and you thought it was the right choice at the time. dont let anyone go on about it cheer up :) you will be fine try and think about that little baby you wont so bad :) when i did my last ivf i only got 5 eggs and 2 fertizled so we have to try again :fingerscrossed: we have been told to put 2 back by the fs so that is what we are going to do if i have more eggs this time .this will be our last time . be happy dear mum :)
to nae .that is great to have support from your dad. and i hope af comes soon for you. have you done too lots of ivf or have you had 1 lot and fet ? and if you dont mind me asking :o what dose did you have with your injection ? to get the six eggs ?
i wish i could start ivf now have to wait for funds it cost so much . good luck ladies bye for now :wave:

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:back again!

I was suppose to of got my AF yesterday but it didnt come im thinking the spray must have something to do with it,my clinic called me up to ask if my AF had came but i told her no and she said its time for a blood test so today i went for my blood test at 730am.Im hoping it comes today because i need to move on to injections,i suppose they will give me some sort of an answer today at 330pm.
Hopes you all are having a good day:)

[maorimama]

Hi Ladies,:wave:
I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread.
I had a tubal ligation in 02 after no.4 and felt like I was bullied into it by my specialist.:( In all four pregnancies I had Pregnancy induced hypertension which required taking meds in the final trimesters but had great outcomes even if 3-4 weeks early (induction). At the time I was not one to question what the doctors said and went along with it.
It is a decision I have deeply regretted and grieved:crying: for since and DH and I would dearly love to have another one or two.
I have always thought I was the only one that felt this way so imagine my elation:smiliedance: at finding other like minded women in these threads.
I have had nothing but trouble since having my tubes tied and in researching have discovered that other women suffer the same symptoms 'Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome'.
Anyway because our desire to have more children is so strong I have been researching the benefits of both tubal reversal and IVF and we feel that IVF would give us better odds.
We don't really know much about the process yet but have requested a booklet from IVF Sunshine Coast and will book a complimentary consultation just to find out what is required.
I hope that my prior history does not prevent us from following this path, does any body know if that would be the case?
I too look in the baby departments for hours on end, have chosen a few names I like and fantasise about having a little one in the house again.
My gosh I could literally go on for hours.:ecomcity:
Anyway, I look forward to following everyone's journeys and getting to know you all.
Sorry for the long post.

[dearmum]

Hi Maorimuma:wave:Its so nice to hear from you.
I do feel your pain everyday and i also still deep down blame my Doc he was a specialist to,if he hadnt said anything about having clips done i would not be in this situation.Thank god we have our kids.Im realy praying and speaking to god please forgive me and please give another child,actually i ask for twins but maybe thats asking to much:laughing:.
I was and still are in a mind of i hope IVF is my best choice as i still have the thinking of if i had done the reversal i might be pregnant already,but hey i have to tell myself one thing at a time.Iv told my hubby i will try 1 cycle of IVF and if it dosnt work im moving on to reversal.My kids keep asking me if im pregnant yet and im like gee it dosnt happen that quick they take after me we dont like to wait.
I would love to keep going on this road with you i look forward for you to start.Anyway have a good day:wave:

[motherof4]

we all feel the some here it is hard i would love one more too i have done one round of ivf and it did not work for me but going again i so hope it works this time as it cost so much funds will not be able to do it again hope we all here get that baby or babies we long for :fingerscrossed:

[maorimama]

Morning dearmum and motherof4, it feels so good to finally have someone to talk to. DH is great and although he has the same yearning for more he deals with it in his own way and I hate to continuously talk his ear off.:ecomcity:

We haven't told anyone the journey we have decided to travel as alot of our friends and family wouldn't understand.:no:

We always hear comments such as 'just be thankful you have 4 already' or 'why would you want more children?'. It can be sooooo frustrating and I get hurt by their comments. Yes I have four beautiful, healthy children but I desperately want more and being 36 this year I feel like if we don't try this soon, I may have missed the boat.

I have been doing alot of reading lately and was so unaware of how much a women's fertility declines from the age of 35 - scary.

It would be so lovely to travel this journey with you. I am not too sure when we will start, we are going to have a free consult so we know what we are facing $ wise etc and have started saving, but can only start when funds permit. I am praying that the first attempt is successful and I am expecting that, but from what I have read on these threads it doesn't always happen that way unfortunately.

Dearmum I too can be very unpatient when I really want something and I am finding it extremely hard to wait.

I will keep my fingers crossed for all of us:fingerscrossed:.

I am off to a cousins baby shower today which will be bittersweet.

Have a great day!!:sunshine:

[scamp]

Just thought i'd jump in and say how great it is to find a site/thread full of such supportive people. I wish i had found something like this years ago.

As its been said about people not quite understanding why after 4 children you'd want more my hub and I decided not to tell the family about our IVF and still havent 2 1/2 years after our darling son was born.

I had 4 children and thought at the time that was enough, they were very quick on getting it done (within 2 weeks) yet i was told it would take 8+ months to start with, but after a relationship breakdown and remarrying years down the track we decided we would love one of "ours" we looked at tubal reversal and IVF but IVF seemed like the best way to go. Our first fresh try didnt work but we had 5 frozen, 2 survived the thaw and thankfully 1 took on and we now have a darling little one who has 3 older brothers 17,13,12(at time of his birth) and sister 15 that absolutely adore him.

I was 37 when he was born and find that being an "older mother" is soooo much easier than it was with my other children, more patience, and more time for one on one.

I wish you all the best of luck with everything you are going through right now and thankyou all for sharing what your going through with all of us and I look forward to reading all the updates and hearing about the babies that will result :) :flowerz:

Diana

[didlesdines]

Hi there ladies,

Well no news from me yet, one week to go!!!!!
How is it all going? I just thought I would pop in and say hi and that I have not forgotten about you.
Dearmum, I saw your post, still no AF, hopefully soon. I have everything crossed so you can move on to the next stage.

[dearmum]

Hi scamp:wave:thanks for your lovely story it gives me hope.Do you plan to have anymore?

Hi Diddlesdines:wave:nice to hear from you,well not long now!! keep me informed im keeping all things crossed that you get the ok and you can start.Yeh my stupid periods havnt came yet and its driving me mad each time i go to the toilet im expecting it but nothing.Well the nurse said if they havnt arrived by thurs then call her,so keeping my fingers crossed it comes.
Isnt it great that the kids are back at school?i get the TV remote to myself:laughing:Well have a good day k.

[maorimama]

Hi Scamp:wave:,

Thanks for sharing your story, my DH and I are in a similar situation where we don't want to tell anyone we are going to do IVF. No one would understand why we are pursuing having more children and I don't want to be hurt by negative comments:crying:.
Hence the reason for me searching for a forum where I could connect with other women experiencing the same thing. I love that BH has given me that, otherwise I think it would drive me crazy not having anyone but DH to talk to about it.
We are hoping to start our first cycle June/July:goodvibes: but that seems an eternity away, in the mean time I enjoy reading about everyone else's journeys as it give us hope.

[Nae]

Hello Girls:wave:,

Hope you are all well and keeping sane.

Went for Blood Test this morning, actually I don't even know what they are for, but I am assuming that they are checking my levels as I will receive a phone call this afternoon to let me know if I have an ultrasound tomorrow, Thursday or Friday... That has to be it and I am always to embarrassed to ask!:rolleyes:

All my side effects have all settled down. I have been cheating on the water intake, not the amount - but adding the smallest amount of Diet Cordial and I am drinking so much this cycle that my DH is sure that we are going to receive an excess water bill. Belly looks like I have been punched several times, don't recall getting as bruised last cycle.
I am really praying for more than 6 eggs this cycle, but have put my head in a good place and not stressing about it, well today anyway - that will probably change when I have my ultrasound this week

Didlesdines, Praying like mad that you get the go ahead...Not long now:fingerscrossed:
DearMum, hope that AF has arrived or will do prior to Thursday...damm that AF never comes when we want it to.

Hello Maoimama, Welcome to our little thread. I agree with you, this thread is keeping me sane and I hope to share you journey with you also.

Okay Girls, I have to go and watch the Young and the Restless...lol... I always hated the US soaps and now I am addicted this show - and my excuse to all in my house is that it takes all my drama away from me and I get to focus on theirs....don't know how long that excuse will work but it's working for now - could also be that DH is letting DD and DS know not to disagree with Me whilst doing IVF...My house has never been so peaceful:laughing:

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:horray i finally got my periods now i will be able to go onto injections:fingerscrossed:
HI Nae:wave:how are you getting along?
Hope everyones havn a good day:flowerz:

[maorimama]

Nae,
All the best for this cycle, I wish you well. I still find it hard getting my head around the jargon that you ladies all talk as we have yet to embark on our journey. I am doing all I can to prepare myself for our appointment at the end of this month by reading all I can get my hands on and talking to you ladies of course.

Dearmum glad to hear you can go ahead.

AF arrived today and even though I have my tubes tied, every month I pray that a small miracle will happen and I will be in the small percentage of women who fall naturally. I know that that won't happen but it doesn't stop the yearning.

Oh well, will have to wait for our consult.

[didlesdines]

Hello people!

Well loads has been happening whilst I have been in bed sick and at hospital (long story will say more later in post)

Okay yeah for the needles starting dearmum, hope they are not to bad. Although it is horrible to get AF in this case it is great news.

Nae, I am glad things are coming along soon, and that you get more than 6 but more especially one sticks!

maorimama, Don't worry about feeling like that I do every time, I have even been known to buy pregnancy test if I am a few days late, I still track everything like now I am ovualting but to sore to do anything about it! When you think about June/ July is not far away, I have been waiting since last October (I think) to get in to see this neuro surgeon on MONDAY (not long now!)

Okay to my dramas, as you may know I have a shunt (yipee, not!) and on Sunday I thought I would be a good girl and take hubby's dog for a walk (big dog) and well he saw a dog not on a leash and went for him, but, took me with him and I fell and hit my head right where the shunt is (of course)

So I have been having really bad headaches since, bad enough for me to take pills often which I don't normally do so I have been on a mixture of nurofen plus, panadene forte, voltaren and mersyndol night (surprise I wasn't floating)

So yesterday I muscled up all my courage and went to hospital (I hate hospitals) to be told there is nothing wrong????? So I am thankful I have this appointment on Monday, so I will be asking about babies and IVF as well as finding out what is wrong with me. Hoping that it won't delay things. As I say I never do things by half and I have copped it from my mum today about having another baby and not being stable blah blah blah.

Okay I am off as I can not stare at this screen too much as my head is pounding. Chat soon guys.

Diana (thought I would add my name so you know me!)

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:back again!
I had my BT today and all is good:)so im on to injecting myself tomorro,well i wont be doing it my hubby will i just hope he goes slow im scared of injections.Funny i think my hubby starting to get clucky like me coz he wants to be involved in everything,just going back a few months ago he didnt like the idea of having anymore kids.I think iv got my hopes up to high for it to work the first time il be disapointed if it dosnt work.

Anyway any one have any news??:ecomcity:

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:yep back again!
Yesterday was my first injection my hubby done it but shoot he put it in slow and just yanked it out so fast on a slant it stung,i think if the nurses wernt around i would have gone off my head:laughing:Anyway today it was the other way around it stung going in but ok going out,hmm he will get there if not il do the bloody thing myself.

Hi Nae:wave:how was the U/S?hope you have lots of follies.
How is everyone one else??:ecomcity:

[maorimama]

Hi Ladies,:)
Diana, I am glad that you did not seriously hurt yourself and I hope all goes well for your appointment on Monday.
I guess June/July will be here before I know it. It is a bit scary to think about actually, but exciting at the same time. I am trying not to get my hopes up that it will work first time, I guess after conceiving 4 naturally it is hard to think that it might not happen in my first IVF attempt.
Dearmum I am sure with time and practise your DH will get better at the whole injection thing or you'll get used to it.
Like you I have high hopes of a successful first attempt, I don't want to think of the alternative. Will cross that bridge if and when I come to it I guess

[motherof4]

i thought it would work the first time too but it did not . everyone is diff so who knows you mite. i hope you get the baby you wont first time . i can not wait to start again soon and hope to get lots of eggs this time that i can use :fingerscrossed: good luck
talk soon

[dearmum]

Hi Diddlesdines:wave:sorry i missed your post today you must have posted yours at the same time as mine.I just wanted to say i feel stupid complaining about my injections as your going through a much worse time:no:be strong ok good luck may be just around the corner;)
Hi Maorimama:wave:its good to hear from you!
you sound very keen to start,i dont blame you thats how i felt,once i made up my mind on having more kids it was like ok which one will give me the quickest results.Yep June isnt far away so we will go through all this together and wouldnt it be great if we got BFP first pop.Sometimes i joke to my hubby oh we should start collecting baby things and hes like NO way just wait,im sure if he said yes i would have a room full of things by now.I told my mum the other day about im doing IVF and she was just like oh god i hope your not one of these ladies that spend all there money on this,hmm i kept my mouth shut.I always tell my mum everything but she is always negative about everything.Its funny my mum had her tubes cut and burnt after her last child and she regreted the whole thing,and yet i swore to myself i would never do what she had done but yet i did,its sad because i thought i was just putting a clip on them until i wanted more kids,i god im crying now i better stop.

[Nae]

Hello Girls:wave:

Diana, I hope that you are feeling better and I think of you everyday. I think of all of my friends in this thread everyday.

Well, Ultrasound was today and I was so excited sitting in the waiting room as my blood test results from Tuesday were excellent and the nurse said that I should be seeing lots of follies seeing my estrogen levels were very high.
The ultrasound really hurt today, and I don't remember it feeling that uncomfortable last cycle....anyway I am confident that I have felt worse things in that area before....
After the ultrasound, the big appointment with my Dr. to tell me how many follies and to confirm pick up....Well I am devastated, I had a follie on the left measuring 25 and 24 and lots of 4 and 5 and on the right side a 17 and lots of other small follies... I just started crying as I knew what was coming next.... A cancelled cycle. Apparently it can happen and I get that, but I feel very knocked around right now.
Lucky for me my DH was with me and whilst he doesn't say much, there wasn't much that could be said to me as we were leaving... I just sobbed the entire trip home.. So I am now taking these tablets for the next 7 days to bring on AF and then I start the pill straight away... Good news I guess that I can go back into a cycle without to much of a wait. They are going to discuss my file at the team brief next week and see what they can tweak with the meds to give me a better result.
My Dr. said that seeing that I was only 38, that there is plenty of time to play around with my cycle to get a successfull BFP.. It took all of my strength and then some to stay silent as I don't feel that I have time to waste playing around, I want them and my body to get it right.

So my friends no good news for me today, but I am not defeated just bloody devastated today... Lucky for me that I have my DH and you guys that I can bounce off! and I hope that you all know that you can bounce off me also.

My DH is hovering over my shoulder, telling me that my punctuation isn't corrent....He is also lucky that I am trying to type or he could be getting a little punch himself...

So to top my day off, I found out today that both of my sister in laws found out they were pregnant today.. I must say that I am very happy for them both - just feel left out of that little club.

My DH and I took our 4yr old niece to the circus tonight & for dinner and spending time with her has made me realise that love is wonderful and I am lucky to have so much love in my life...

Anyway I will go now as I am rambling and could go on for hours...just trying to stay positive .

Hope you are all well and will speak to you next week.

Take Care

Your Friend

Renea xxx

[maorimama]

Morning Ladies,
Dearmum I am very keen and can't wait to get started, it will be good going through this experience with others at the same time.
We are not telling anyone of our IVF journey, I feel like my family and friends wouldn't understand, most of them have finished their families and I already get negative comments when I mention that I would love another. That is why having you ladies is a god send, I need someone to confide in and being that we are all going through the same thing is an added bonus as we all understand each other.

Motherof4 it is hard not to get your hopes up aye? I wish you all the very best and look forward to hearing how you get on.

Nae, my heart goes out to you and no need to apologise for the rambling, we are here for you.
I understand how you feel about family members falling pregnant. I am the same. I feel happy for them but sad for myself. The yearning is so strong that it is hard news to hear. I was recently at a baby shower and there were so many babies present. I loved cuddling and smelling them (oh the smell of a new born), but I felt a real ache inside. Just makes the desire so much stronger.
We will all get there, it's just that the path we take may have a few more bends in it than anticipated.

[didlesdines]

Oh, Don't get me started about the smell of newborns! I hear you about people not getting wanting more kids, I have mentioned it am I was told that I am stupid, but I suppose they don't get the feelings.

Don't worry about me, I have been through worse this is just a minor set back I will back to normal in no time.

Okay Nae, I am sorry to hear that news but don't feel defeated, yes upset is good, but don't give up on your dream.

I glad everything is going along dearmum, and I hope you are used to those needles. I am not looking forward to that.

maroimama, I am the same in our family hubby and I were the first to have kids, first by about 8yrs so now they are having babies, there are 4 under 3, and I hate it as I hold them and get sooooo clucky, I even offer to change any nappy as it means I get to spend more time with them.

There is this girl I know who is pregnant with her 3rd but although she is a great mum she has no brains and makes bad descisions about things she is so behind in her rent but when talking today about her baby bonus she mentioned how she is going to get a nintendo Wii, I mean she goes to my mums shop and gets credit for things like milk and bread and the thought does not cross her to maybe stock her pantry up????

Well, that was my rant! see we can all do it I will be here late Monday night or Tuesday morning to let you guys know the NEWS!!!!!!

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:how was your Mothers Day?mine was just ok,not great but ok it would have been great if they all got me pressies but they didnt only my girls did and my boys came up with lame excuses.It would have been better to if someone had booked lunch or dinner for me but no im always the one thats got to think about it.Anyway il stop bitching:laughing: im going good with my progress on the injections because so far no side affects,on thursday i go and have my BT so hopefully on Sunday they take my eggs:fingerscrossed:
Sorry got to go pick up the kids from school see ya:wave:

[maorimama]

Good Evening,:)

Diana my two oldest are the first grandchildren on my side and the first two great grandchildren and there is a big gap between them and their cousins. I have siblings who haven't even started their families yet and my oldest boy is talking about moving out in the next 2-3 years, it is scary. When did they grow up so fast and become independent?
I was just saying to my husband that I never really appreciated being a SAHM and now that I am working part time I really hate it:no: and want what I had. The only reason I am working though is to help us with the expenses of IVF. I can't wait for the day when I can give up work and pamper myself while pregnant. I would love to have maybe 3-4 more if possible, but would settle for a few.
I absolutely loved my pregnancies and can't wait to do it all over again.

Dearmum, I had a lovely mother's day. My children made me breakfast in bed which my youngest helped me eat. They even made me lunch. I was pampered all day while watching 'From here to Maternity'. It is the first time I have watched that programme and I loved it. I had tears in my eyes for most of it. We don't buy gifts for days like this, we encourage our children to make things as it means so much more. I have a whole treasure trove of all the things the kids have made for me over the years and will pull them out one day when they have their own children. It will be a walk down memory lane.

How is everyone else doing?

[didlesdines]

Okies people went to the doctor and she knew her stuff big time, bad news is that my shunt is broken but she is going to hold out until my private health kicks in but do a load of tests yeah???

On the baby front at this stage it is a no but once I am stable yes but she is unsure about IVF but to ask again when things are fixed, so I am on hold, now don't think I wont come in and see how you all are doing.

Well got to get kids up and I noticed that one wet the bed yeah for me more washing.

[dearmum]

Diddlesdines:hugs:im feeling sad for you because i know how bad you wanted to start,im thinking if its going to be months why not go for the operation?if i was in your position i think i would,what ever is the quickest for me.Anyway dont go we love having you around for support and a good chat?

[maorimama]

Hi Diana,
I am glad to hear you have a doctor that 'knows their stuff' that is crucial in any type of treatment.
It's sad to hear that you can't start ivf yet, but keep a positive frame of mind and things will happen. If you can't go down the ivf route will you get a reversal done? Do you mind me asking what the difference would be if the outcome is the same?
I don't think I could handle being told that I couldn't do ivf, that is half the reason I am putting off my first appointment.
I am off to my GP next week to get 'pregnancy friendly' hypertension meds, but the concern for me is that I had elevated BP at the end of 3 pregnancies and half way through the 4th. No other symptoms but I got treated like I was critical. I can understand where the doctors are coming from and that is the reason why I allowed myself to be bullied into a tubal ligation cause the doctor suggested it would be better than having more kids. I have since learnt that women who have essential hypertension get pregnant all the time and as long as they are managed accordingly and monitored they have very postive outcomes.
Sorry for rambling, I am allowing my insecurities and fears to come through.
I will ring the fertility clinic tomorrow and make an appointment. Think positive, think positive.
On the bed wetting front I have a 5yr son that still wets the bed. He was really good then over xmas needed blood tests and since then has started again. It is very frustrating because I know he can do it, but I don't let him see this. Any suggestions????

[dearmum]

Hi Maorimama:wave:my son had wet his bed up until 11yrs and then i was suggested why not try the alarm,well i thought at first nah he will grow out of it,but then i tried it and it worked straight away.You need to call the hospital as they hire out this bed wetting alarm what it does it trains there brain to wake up when they need to wee as a alarm will go off just before he wets,the nurse will explain to your son what to do ect and they do this program them selves its really great because it works.
Well wont be long until you start,hopefully you can get in quick as some of those IVF docs are booked out for Months.You made me laugh when you said you want 3 or 4 more kids because thats how i feel,actually 2 sets of twins would be great:laughing:anyway keep me posted on your son hope you can give him a try of the alarm.:wave:

[maorimama]

Hi dearmum:wave:,
I will look into getting that alarm thingy, didn't know such a thing existed.
Well I bit the bullet and made my initial consultation at the clinic, it is Monday 26 May. Man I can not believe how scared I was ringing up. It was very nerve wracking. But it is done now and I feel such relief:). I asked the woman I spoke with the time frame from the initial consult to getting started and she said that basically they will fit in to a schedule that suits us.
I am fantasising about being able to tell the kids on Xmas day that they will be getting a new brother or sister, wouldn't that be great.
Yep I too would like two sets of twins, lol. If only we always go what we wanted.
I think now I am more settled and our lifestyle here is better than in Nz so we feel ready to add to our family. I could easily have 3-4 like I said.
Now to play the waiting game. I wonder whether I can transfer 2. I will be arming myself with all the questions I need answered and will definitely keep you posted.
Have a good day.

[maorimama]

Where is everyone?:confused:
Hope you are all well. Just wondering if any one else is consumed with thoughts of babies. It seems that every waking minute is taken up by thoughts of babies and being pregnant.

Well I have had a fairly good week, busy working but am so glad that the weekend is here though. Time to relax and spent time with my family.

Not much else to report on.
Hope you all have a good weekend.

[Shadek]

Maor- Hi I know what you mean about being consumed with thoughts of babies.And having your every waking minute is taken up by thoughts of babies and being pregnant.
Just wait until you do start IVF not to worry you but it gets worse.
It took us 12 months to fall & I just couldnt work out why as my tubes were our only problem.
Wishing you ladies all the best & it DOES happen:hugs:

[maorimama]

Shadek, congrats on your pregnancy. I am looking forward to my first consult to find out everything we can about ivf. We are hoping to start our first cycle July/Aug now and I can't tell you how much I want that time to fly. I know not to get my hopes up too high with the first go, but DH says to have faith it will work. I just don't want to be disappointed though if it doesn't work first pop.
I am struggling with the fact that we have decided not to tell anyone as I am so excited and want to share what we are about to embark with someone, that is why these threads are soooo good. Acutally I am pretty addicted now, there is so much great info available.
All the best to you

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:yepee i have my U/S tomorro:smiliedance:its a next step closer for me.My Kids keep asking why are you going to da hospital are you pregnant?Haha i wish it was that quick.Well talk tomorro:):wave:

[Shadek]

Maro- Hi Yes that was the hardest time for me when it just didnt work first go.The ones after then were upsetting but not as bad...As your Dh said have Faith it will happen wishing you all the best:hugs:

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:just my update!today i had the U/S to check if i have enough follies and i dont so i have to go again Monday and check again, i have 13 size 12 & 13s on the left and only 2 size 13s on my right.Um how many are you supose to get?and what size do they have to be?i was to embarresed to ask the doc:confused:
Well have a lovely weekend:flowerz:

[wenyo]

hi i am Wendy i am 33, like you i have been ravelling with this delema due to the cost ect.
I was 25 when i had mine done as i thought i was done and finished. I was happily married had 2 kids i boy and a girl. so i started helping others, donating my eggs i have helped 6 couples.
I have been to a gyno and he says he has too look and see the damage done thats fine if i had private health i could get it done for almost nothing and ivf is $10,000 . I feal that in 2 year i can do ivf then as i will be only 35 and my eggs will be viable still but for now i want to undo my tubes and see what happens. iam tying to go public and private to see the diffence in cost. so i'll let you know how it pans out:bee:

[dearmum]

Hi Wenyo:wave:nice to hear from you!i think its a very draining decision choosing between reversal and IVF but yeh one needs to be made.At first i wanted to go for the reversal because i was thinking well i want more than one more baby and by the time i keep doing IVF its going to work out expensive,so i had arranged all the tests ect and booked my Doc ect and then i still keep IVF in the back of my head anyway one day i went to my hubbys Doc and he said oh dont bother with the hassel of the reversal just go for IVF alot of his friends were chosing IVF and got good results quite quick.So i came out thinking il try IVF first and you never know i might also have a chance to have twins this way.So here i am on my first try of IVF and so far so good no side affects from the drugs,now just hoping it will work:fingerscrossed:Oh and the cost was going to be $4500 for the reversal and IVf was $2000,but i think the money for me wasnt to much of a problem,i just wanted to go for the quickest way as the doc said it could take 1 yr to get pregnant with reversal and its still only an if:confused:But hey what ever way you go i wish you best of luck and keep me posted k:wave:

[maorimama]

Shadek will try and keep a positive frame of mind.

Dearmum how easy I wish it was too. Talking to my DS5 the other day he was questioning the whole pregnancy thing as I have a yound niece due in 7wks. He thinks it is as simple as wanting a baby and getting it, if only. I hope things go well at your scan tomorrow, won't be long now before I too am going through all that.

Wenyo, wow what a gift to donate eggs, I think that is a truely amazing gesture. There is so much to consider with either option and I wish you all the best. I would definitely be interested to hear how you get on.

How is every one else???

[Nae]

Hi Girls:wave:

Sorry that I haven't posted for awhile, been very busy and very depressed I guess.

Well AF arrived again yesterday:yelclap:and called my clinic to advise them, the nurse said "I am not sure Renea if you can cycle again this month, I am sure that you have to wait another month!" after what seemed like forever in silence, I reminded her that my DR said that I didn't have to wait as my cycle was canx by him. Well she had to check this out and get back to me, which she did and she didn't seem very happy with me at all! She then asked me what I weighed, at the beginning of my IVF Life I weighed 102k and now I weigh 109k :( - Without any nice manner, she told me that I was obese and that I have to lose 10k by the 10th June which is when I collect my meds for this cycle.... I told her that I have been around the 100k for about 10 years and that over the last 6 months that I have been pumped with hormones, etc, etc, and that could be a reason why I have put on weight... By this time I am in tears, as she tells me that I am full of excuses! Which I didn't think I was, seeing that I asked them about exercise and was told on 3 different occasions not to have an increased body temp, not to increase my heart rate...So today I will walk for an hour and everyday till the 10th June and take some diet shakes and pray...

I am glad that you are all doing well.
Dear Mum, your follie number looks great and I will be praying that you get a good number.

I am with Westmead Fertility Clinic, which clinic are you all with if you don't mind me asking??

Always thinking of my IVF friends.

Renea

[Shadek]

Nae- I dont blame you for being upset she had no right to talk to you that way.
IVF is hard enough without some woman being a BI###.
Chin up sweetie it will all work out in the end I would ask to speak with another ladies next time.:hugs:

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies :wave:thanks so much for the support,yes im getting so excited just to have my op:smiliedance:

Hi Nae:wave:i think that lady must have been in some bad mood or maybe she is just born a B***h.Babe have you tried the chinese Diet green tea?i swear it works.It is in a green box and they sell it at most asian groceries shops.Take it twice a day it flushes out all things bad,and try only try stay away from white bread and white rice ect.I lost 5kg in a week,one of our friends lost 20kg in 6months,sorry for going on to much:ecomcity:
Well have a good day ;)

[maorimama]

Nae I feel dreadful for you. The people who work in these clinics are supposed to be there to offer support without judgement and she had no right whatsoever to speak to you that way. I would be asking to talk to someone else if you don't get the satisfaction you are after, afterall this is a service we pay alot for.
I hope everything woks out so that you can this cycle.

I know it's hard but try not to let this incident get you down.

[maorimama]

Gee it has been very quiet here, how is everybody doing?
I have my first appointment at the clinic on Monday and I am so excited, this has been a very long week I can tell you.
Finally I can get all the answers to my many questions.
Hope you ladies are having a good week.

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:How is everyone?
Well today i had my egg colection:smiliedance:Yep i got 8,well im hoping thats enough to get a baby.It wasnt as bad as i thought,because i had the worst in my mind thinking oh dear im going to be in so much pain when i get out but nope i think because my body has had kids its became tough.
Good luck Maorimama for Monday dont forget to bring a list of all the things you want to ask.
Well il keep you guys updated on my embies,please pray for me.Thanks

[Shadek]

Dearmum- 8 eggs thats cool I got 5 my first go & then 10 on the second go.
You did better then me if you dont feel to bad I felt like Sh** the first time.
Are you taking embryo's to Blasto?? for transfer???

[motherof4]

that is great :smiliedance: i hope all make it so you have lots to have . i only got 5 and only 2 made it so that is great keep us post on how the little eggs are going :yelclap: bye for now

[dearmum]

Hi Shadek:wave:thanks i feel better now coz i thought i was going to 13 eggs,but hey if you had 5 and was able to get a baby,then 8 thats good hopes for me yay!Yes they want my embies to go to blasto so lets hope it makes it that far.
So how is bubs?Do you know what you are having?iv allways hated suprises because with my first child i was so wishing for a girl and i thought i would wait for the birthday to find out but it came out a boy gee i was disapointed:laughing:so from then onwards iv allways wanted to know what im having so i can prepare.

Hi Motherof4:wave:thanks for that!now i can rest asured knowing 8 is ok.How are you going?will you still be starting a cycle in the coming Months?well i hope so,i will be around even i i fall pregnant so i can give support;)
Well ladies pray for me that god gives me another child coz i want one so bad.:wave:

[dearmum]

OMG OMG:smiliedance::smiliedance:all my 8 eggs fertilized!im just so happy.Ladies help me pray that my embies last until the 5 day transfer.Im wanting a baby so bad it hurts.Hows everyone today?

[motherof4]

i am so :smiliedance: happy for you .that is great to have them all fertilized . so when is transfer ?
i am starting ivf again in sep or aug :fingerscrossed:and hope to have lots of eggs this time and i am getting two put back this time fs said we should . anyway i will keep my :fingerscrossed: for your babies
bye for now keep us post

[dearmum]

Thank Motherof4:yes:i need all the blessings i can get and the rest il leave up to god.Well i few Months go very quick,i cant wait for you to start.It will be a road we can take together;)

[motherof4]

i can not wait to start i hope it works this time as we can not do it again .so they say third time lucky :fingerscrossed: so we have to pray to god :fingerscrossed::wave: keep us post

[maorimama]

Evening Ladies, I was away last night and couldn't wait to get on here to see how you had all got on.
Dearmum, that is absolutely awesome :smiliedance: I am so glad to hear of your results and I wish you all the best for your ET. My :fingerscrossed: for you and I am praying for a :bfp: for you.

Motherof4 I hope everything goes well for your next cycle:), we will probably be going through that together. I am so excited and can't wait to start but I am so not looking forward to the side effects I have read about on these threads.

Well ladies as you know we have our first appointment on Monday to find out the ins and outs etc, what sort of things should I be asking, I have a general idea of what I want to know, but any suggestions from those of you who have already done cycles would be great.
I have read alot about at what stage is best to transfer, what advice can you give in regards to this, it seems that the outcome is different for everyone.

Yesterday I was trying on Bridesmaids dresses for a friends wedding in September and I could not help but think that I may be sick and carrying a bit of extra padding then. I know that my stomach may be bloated from the drugs etc and only hope I still fit into the dress that was chosen.

Hope you all are having a great weekend.

[dearmum]

Hi Maorimama:wave:I hope you get a understanding Doc as i think thats important.Will you be having a lady Doc or a guy?i have a guy and i find its embarasing when you have virginal U/S and egg pic up.I think next time i will change Doc,i feel lady Docs can understand us more.Well you must be wanting this weekend to hurry up and finish:laughing:Babe dont worry to much about the side affects,i use to worry about that to but in end i had none.I feel we should go ok with IVF as we have had kids and iv had no miscariages so lets bring on BFP this 2008:)

[maorimama]

Morning dearmum, I think you hit the nail on the head, this has been the longest weekend in history.
I am not too sure yet the doctor I will get, guess I will find all that out tomorrow, but I know the clinic I am going to be attending has both female and male and I know I will feel more comfortable with a female doctor. I think you are right in saying that they understand more what we are going through.
I am hoping that because I have had children that I will experience minimal/no side effects but if I do it will be all worth it in the end.
I think this will be the year for us all:fingerscrossed:.
I'll fill you in tomorrow night on how I get on.
Can't wait, can't wait, can't wait....

[Shadek]

Dearmum- Wow all 8 thats great news well done. We got 5 eggs on our first egg pick up but only got 1 to transfer all the rest didnt make it.So when our first transfer didnt work it was heartbreaking.
We got our Pos on our last transfer 2nd cycle with no embryos left so its lucky this one was strong.
Have you heard when your transfer will be?????

[didlesdines]

Hello all,

Bet you thought I had forgotten about you? Well dearmum that is great news, I am so pleased for you. And to all the others best of luck with appointments and all that. I am waiting for my MRI dates to come through, and I have very sick I don't know if it the flu bug that is going around or something else. So I am off as I need to have some food with painkillers.

Check in soon, Diana

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:Thanks so much for all the support i really appreciate it,but keep the blessings going because we need it;)Yeh the most frusterating thing about IVF is the wait wait wait:laughing:i cant stand it.Well come 2pm i have to call them again to see how there doing.Its funny i told my kids they have 8 brothers or sisters waiting there,its cute because my 16yr boy even asks about them.He also wanted to know how many more kids do i want so i just told him 2 because i wouldnt like 1 more because they get to spoilt and usally lonely.Yesterday i was trotting around the baby section again just getting ideas,i swear once i find out its BFP im out there shopn.
Hi diddlesdines:wave:yeh i thought you forgot all about us,im so glad your back;)its no good to hear your sick,just like a mum would say drink heaps and get rest:laughing:
Well got to go call them be back soon!

[maorimama]

Dearmum you have all the blessings possible, we are all thinking of you. I so look forward to jumping on here to see how everyone is doing, feel like a bit of a stalker at times, but it is helping me to learn what I need to know for when we start.
Yep I'm still hitting the baby sections too, making plans and dreaming. Friends and family would probably find it tragic if they knew.

Didlesdines good to see you back, take care of yourself and get some r & r.

Well I am counting down till 1.30 when I have my appointment, can't wait to fill you all in.

Have a great day everyone.:)

[dearmum]

Hi Maorimama:wave:So how did your appt go?you must be happy as its one step closer for you:)

:smiliedance::smiliedance:Well Ladies 5 of my embies are going great!the others wont likely make it,but hey im happy:)Yes yes transfer tommorro i just cant wait.I will be on the 2ww :fingerscrossed:im off to go for accupunture now so i will chat again tonight.

[motherof4]

5 eggs that is great :smiliedance::smiliedance: so tomo d day my fs puts back 2 day egg not 5 day you have done well :thumbsup: can not wait to see the
:bfp:

[maorimama]

Dearmum that is fantastic news, all the best for your transfer tomorrow my :fingerscrossed: for you.

Well my appointment went really well, the nurse explained about the various drugs/ treatments etc, what to expect, procedures.
We asked all the questions we had and felt really comfortable with her.

I asked whether ivf will be any easier considering we have had children and she said that becasue my body has done it a number of times it will recognise what is happening and may help. This is no way guarantees anything but it is good to know.

Now we just need to come up with the full amount, which will be a bit hard but oh so worth it. We need to pay around $6200 upfront not including hospital and anaesthetist costs, but once we reach the medicare threshold will get back a rebate.

Wow so the ball is finally rolling. We are hoping to commence in the next few months but TBH didn't think the initial cost would be so much so may take slightly longer to come up with the full fees, but we will get there I have no doubt.
I said to Dh that we may need to wait till early next year but he is determined to start in 2008 so we will be saving very hard to accomplish this.

I'm off to read some book I borrowed from the clinic, their selection was great.

[maorimama]

Just wanted to ask how you all cope with the costs of ivf?

[dearmum]

Hi Maorimama:wave:Im glad you had your appt as it gives you lots of info.Well regarding the costs all centres charge a different amount so you may pay to shop around.At my clinic we will only need to pay 2500 and they also allow you to start your IVF first and pay at the end,you can also pay it off.Its still cheaper than a tubal reversal.I was so hoping you could start straight away,never mind though by the time you start you will have a good feel what the whole process will be like through us.;)

:wave:Hi Ladies yep back again,i cant stay away from this bubhub even my kids complain:laughing:i went for my accupunture and i dont feel any different gee im paying $55 each time i hope it all helps.My hubby thinks thats only for people that usally cant have babies,i just told him i dont care im trying everything.He is just probley thinking of the money like usall.:)
Well yep im of to bed now because time goes quicker then your asleep.Goodnight Ladies:)

[maorimama]

Dearmum I had to laugh at what you said about sleep making time go quicker, ain't that the truth.:laughing:
Do you mind me asking where you are having your ivf done. You know I never thought to shop around, but this avo I'll jump on line and see if I can suss out prices at other clinics.
Maybe I need to start a thread asking the Brissy ladies where they go etc.
I too have read that acupunture is good for ivf so I was thinking of looking into that too.
Anyway have a great day.

[Shadek]

:hugs:Goodluck to all the ladies on the tread:hugs:

[Jonnanne3]

Dearmum....I am new here and I am so excited about your transfer. :smiliedance: I had a TR on 4-12-07 and we had our :bfp: on Feb 15th. Unfortunately we miscarried on March 6th. We had looked into IVF before the TR. However what I had found here in the states, it cost about $8000 to $10000. The TR was what we thought was going to be the best bet for us.
It has now been a little more than a year TTC and as you know it is a huge roller coaster of emotions! Good luck to you and I hope you get your :bfp: very soon!

Anne

[motherof4]

we are all in the some boat here hope you have fun on here with us girls and that we have our bfp soon

dearmum . how did it go today ? hope you are feeling
good let mum know how you went . best wishes

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:back again!Im pregnant:smiliedance:Well all went well today,Oh guess what!my doc told me my embie was one of the best he has seen in a long time so im really happy about that.Yes i have 5 babies in the freezer waiting for me so it looks like i just might have to have 6 babies,i think after that i will be happy.I have to rest and rest for at least 2 days so baby can stick on.I had my accupunture again today but i was just kind of in pain the whole time because my stomach is swollen.Yeh i feel and look like im 3 months pregnant.Its a funny feeling knowing they just put the baby in,its all so instant.Coming home i had to keep telling my hubby to slow down or the baby will fall out:laughing:yeh he is such a crazy driver i hate it when he drives.
Hi Jonnanne3:wave:nice to hear from you!yeh we all seem to regret having the TL,but hey aleast you have had the Tr so its just a matter of time for you.Keep intouch:)

[maorimama]

Dearmum that is the best news I have heard in a while,:smiliedance: I am sooooo happy for you:flowerz:. It gives me hope that ivf will work for us also.
Well enjoy resting up, you so deserve it after that fantasic result.
Please don't leave us though I enjoy chatting with you and am really interested in hearing all about your pregnancy.

Jonnanne# welcome aboard:wave:. I am sure you will find the ladies very supportive. I wish you all the best in your ttc journey.

How is everyone else????

[Jonnanne3]

Dearmum....Congrats! I hpe you have a sticky bean there! Thank you for the welcome.....Good luck ladies! I hope and pray we get our :bfp: very soon!!!!!!!!!!!

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:Just popin in to say HI.How is everyone?its been so quite here:confused:as for me im just waiting and waiting for 5th june:smiliedance:yesterday i bought a belly belt :laughing:and stretch mark cream just getting ready.Yeh i still have a swollen stomach and gee my nipples are so itchy,i dont know why.Today i might go and see the new store thats just opened i think its called something baby superstore,i just might go alone so no one rushes me i hate it when you go shopping with guys and they rush you.I will try and not by anything just yet,but i want to choose my cot and pram.I told my mum the other day about the baby she is just so excited she asked me to have her one:)I wish she didnt move states.Well by for now:wave:

[dearmum]

Hi ladies:wave:Im getting so excited,i have 3 days to go until BT yay:smiliedance:iv been having swollen boobs oh and my stomach is like a 5 Month not 5 days:laughing:and i walk around like a duck allready.LOL
So how is everyone?you guys have been so quiet,come on you need to keep me company
Any new news?How about the kids have they been driving you nuts?well iv got 3 teenages so there messy and loud,but i would be totally bored without them.Well il be back.

[dearmum]

Hi you guys:wave:yay today was my BT day:smiliedance:im still waiting for my results but hey at least its today man only another 3 an half hrs left.I feel iv been a bit on the sick side just out of worry you know what i mean.Well what ever the result i just want it over and done with.Gota go now be back later,yeh going shopping to kill some time:laughing:

[didlesdines]

dearmum can't wait for your results

[dearmum]

YES YES YES IM PREGNANT :smiliedance:i can hardly believe it,my levels were 136.GOD i feel like jumping up and down im that excited.Well ladies you have seen me get a :bfp:now its your turns:yes:if i can you guys can;)
Yep i went shopping for baby stuff,i bought 3 outfits all yellow and a baby album,oh and bras for me coz my boobs are poping out my old ones.Gosh im just sooo happy.

[motherof4]

:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance: that is great first time that is so great your numbers are good too :smiliedance: i am so happy for you

[didlesdines]

WOW WOW I am jumping up and down for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!:yelclap::yelclap::goodvibes::flow erz::sunshine::cloud9:

I am so glad that things worked out. I am hoping that the next 9 months are happy and healthy for you. I can't wait till it is my turn and you HAVE to keep checking in and letting us know!

Loads of hugs coming your way!

[Shadek]

Dearmum- Well done you are so lucky to get a :bfp: first go.Congrats

[maorimama]

Dearmum I have been thinking about you alot and am so stoked for you.
Our computer is playing up at the moment so am using my sis-inlaws one, so you may only see me here occassionally till we get ours fixed.

How is everyone else doing?

[dearmum]

Hi Ladies:wave:Thanks so much for all the blessings;)I still cant believe it worked the first time for me,its a god send.So how is everyone going?who will be next?im waiting to see everyone get there :bfp:hey guys dont wait to long,as you seen with me it can happen straight away.I swear the egg pic up and egg transfer makes you swollen like a 4 Month old pregnant lady:yes:it was funny yesterday i went to baby on a budget,oh by the way its no budget there more expensive .Any my daughter said OH MUM STOP PULLING OUT YOUR STOMACH TRYING TO SHOW EVERYONE YOUR PREGNANT i said no this is for real.I really feel like buying the cot and everything but i cant just yet coz i need to know what im having.Yeh im not having a suprise at the birth because i cant wait to find out the sex.:)Yesterday i bought a baby album so i can keep photos of all the scans ect,and my 2 daughters said oh thats not fair you didnt do that with me,oh gosh i cant keep everyone happy.I also feel really guilty about my youngest daughter as she always thought she was going to be the baby in the family:(yeh there alot of guilt in me at the moment.The other kids are making it worse by saying HAHA your not the baby anymore.
Well enough with all the blah.
So how far away is everyone ready to start?

[Louise28]

Dearmum, Your news is fantastic, congratulations, make sure you take it easy and pamper yourself and bub. Unfortuneatly AF has come and gone for me in just 3 days:crying:, my FS still wants me to do a HPT when its due on Sunday but I really don't want to:thumbsdown: We have to wait until September to try again as we are off travelling here there and everywhere.
Who would have thought that I would rather be here trying again, instead of seeing Las Vegas, Canada and Alaska, I know!!! dumb hey!!!. I know it will change as our holiday gets closer, and of course I will be very excited.
Again congratulations Dearmum, my thoughts and best wishes are with you.

[dearmum]

Hi Louise:wave:I am really sorry to hear your AF stuck around and now gone.:hugs:i always feel babies come from god so no matter what the Doctors can do its still up to god you know what i mean,and if its meant to be it will be,so babe dont be to hard on yourselves go and have that fantastic holiday and if you are up for it when you get back give it another go.I know we hate waiting for something we want but sometimes those that wait get paid off in the end.This holiday that your going to have believe me its going to take your breath away and you dont want to miss that.Iv been around the world i done that 2yrs ago and i went to the places that you had mentioned it is so worth while.Yeh i took the kids to 18 Countries for four Months and those memories i wouldnt give up for any thing else.
Well take care of yourself,cry if you need to and after that look around i think gee i do have a great husband and a great life with or without more babies.
I will be here when you get back;)

[dearmum]

Hi Diddlesdines:wave:How are you progressing?Im excited for you to start IVF,now i feel its better to have IVF rather than TR as its cheaper and quicker.I hope to hear good news from you soon.
Hi Motherof4:wave:Wow not long off until you start?As for my injections i was on a standard dose of 150 each day but you Doc will recomend whats best for you.Did you try acupunture last time?
Hi Ladies:wave:Well how was everyones weekend?
Im still pregnant thankgoodness yeh it always seems like as though my going to get my AF,i still cant believe im pregnant.I cant believe how easy it all was,i mean it took what 5 weeks.I should of done his yrs ago.

[motherof4]

sounds like you and bubs is doing well :yelclap: no i have not done acupunture . maybe i am not ment to have anymore babies . sorry feeling down :confused:
i believe it would work . i should not feel like this there is lots of girls on here that have to go through lots of ivf . and my heart gos out to them . i have wonted a other baby for so long it just feels like it will never happen :no: anyway what gradeing did you get for your eggs ?? they grade my 7/ out of 10 ] at 2 days they said that was great for 2 days old
talk soon bye for know :wave:

[dearmum]

Hi Motherof4:wave:Im sorry your feeling down,its the whole IVF thing.I felt that way half way through the IVf,i just wanted to give up a bit thinking its all such a hassel,but you just have to stick it out and give your body a chance.
When will you be starting?
My eggs they didnt give me grading on them,each time i rang they just keep saying they are all doing ok and they want them to go to blasto.
I also recommend acupunture as it worked for me,i had 2 treatments before ET and then 1 on the day of transfer and 1 after transfer but you must find someone that specializes in IVF.
I didnt do the baby asprin or pineapple ect as i wanted to see if it works without all that,but i read in a newspaper that acupunture helps by 50% so i thought why not pay that extra $200.
Yeh i dont know how alot of ladies can go through IVF time after time,but Motherof4 dont give up just yet give it another go.:flowerz:

[Louise28]

What does Baby Asprin and Pineapple do???
I figure for my FET in September I am going to hit it with everything I can, going to try Accupuncture to.

[didlesdines]

Hi all,

Well I have my dates for my tests and hoping that if I can hold out having any "repairs" done to my shunt till that christmas holidays, it is just easier to organise the kids. Then after that I should have the all clear I have discussed going to The Royal Womens in Melbourne as they do the reversal for free but there is a wait. As the whole pregnancy is fine it is just the IVF, the hormones involved manily and the effects on my intracranial pressure.

Keep your chins up girls I will drop in again soon, thought I have read all the posts I have not posted as I have no news.

Diana:sunshine:

[Nae]

Hello Girls,

Firstly I am sorry that I haven't checked in for a couple of weeks... Been very busy trying to lose weight for this cycle, seeing that the nurse that I spoke to last time made me feel like necking myself:(
DearMum:wave:...CONGRATULATIONS!!! I am so very happy for your and your DH. I know how you feel about looking 4 or 5 months pregnant. That's how I looked after my 1st cycle.

Just came back from my Medication pickup appointment.. Had the nicest nurse today and I had tears welling up, s