Are people too ‘drug’ happy now????

[Milliner]

So do YOU think people are to happy to give their children ‘drugs’ (Panadol, nurofen, demazin) at the first sign of a sniffle, little grizzle etc.

Surely it can’t be good for their little bodies.

DD is a cryer and when she was having a bad day I was asked if I had given her Panadol? I said no - the response I got was, 'why the hell not, I would?!?!?!??!?!' :eek:

ETA I am talking about over using these medications.

[punkbaby]

I was asked this with indie and her teething, shes happy but a little off i guess (2nd tooth has just come up) but she didnt have a temp and she was happy on the boob she was just clingy in general, i didnt give her anything either.

I only use it if necessary and i find that alot use it when they shouldnt. Mind you if she was screaming and had a high temp with her teeth i wouldnt hesitate, generally though a temp is there as its your body fighting the infection so it can be a good thing sometimes (sometimes not all the time)

The older kids can tell me if they are in pain at least

[kiwibird27]

I agree, My DD has liver disease so we are VERY careful with the panadol and only give it in urgent cases. We never use anything else just to b sure unless she is in hospital under doctors guidance.

She doesn't really need it that often, even temps don't actually need treatment with panadol only if the are uncomfortable with it. It's too easy to go buy it over the counter. Baby panadol is worked on about 15 mg paracetemol for every 1 kg of bubs, I give DD 10 mg per kg and that works well too. Liver deterioration is of concern to us, If it's bad for her why not a normal child???

[Mamalicious]

I think so. :yes:

DS was a bit grizzly one day while we were visiting my Mum and straight away she said to me "Shall we give him some panadol?"

And I said "What for?"

She had no answer, if you can't even think of a reason to give it then it can't be necessary. :rolleyes:

If he's in pain, he will have pain relief, I know what I'm doing. ;):D

[Shanaynay]

Yep, too 'drug happy'.
Some Doctors are too, over-prescribing antibiotics and giving out prescriptions to treat conditions that aren't even diagnosed :thumbsdown:

[aardvark]

I stay away from them as much as possible.

Apart from the active ingredients, there's the rest of the junk they shove in the bottle.

It is impossible to buy children's paracetamol (or Nurofen etc) without artificial sweetener in it for a start.

The only way to get it without the artificial junk is to go to a compounding pharmacy and have them make up a mixture based on sugar syrup and a natural flavour.

I usually reach for the Brauer remedies first.

[Freya]

Wayyyyy too 'drug' happy!

Kaidayn has had panadol maybe three times in 11 months.

[Veritas]

Definitely agree with you..... I can count the number of times on one hand that DD has had panadol and it is definitely not the first port of call for us......

I think its a sign of the times to be honest..... so many people seem very keen to take the easy option out in so many aspects of their lives regardless of the possible long term costs.....

[Refresh]

YES absolutely....you should see my step mothers medicine cabinet:no:

We have been in hospital this week (Tayla was sick) and they check your temp every 4 hours (usual procedure)...as soon as her temp hit 37.9 they were like Ok we are getting the panadol:rolleyes: I really had to stand my ground to avoid them giving it to her.

I am one who believes that the body raises its temp to fight the bugs! I believe that with all my heart and I have seen my children recover much quicker when letting their temps run their course. I also dont thin kit is good for them oto have panadol beacuse it tricks them into thinking they are better so they run around instead of resting like their bodies need to be doing:yes:

Argh, I could rave on for hours about panadol and the like LOL!

[Mum&bubs]

Yep way too drug happy! I only give it to them if really needed, if not I stay clear as much as possible. I even do it for myself, If I have a headache someone asks "Did you take a panadol" and they are always surprised when I say "Nope" :no:

[Mamalicious]

Definitely agree with you..... I can count the number of times on one hand that DD has had panadol and it is definitely not the first port of call for us......
I think its a sign of the times to be honest..... so many people seem very keen to take the easy option out in so many aspects of their lives regardless of the possible long term costs.....

:iagree:


I even do it for myself, If I have a headache someone asks "Did you take a panadol" and they are always surprised when I say "Nope" :no:

Me too! I RARELY have panadol or the likes, Mum knew something was wrong with my wisdom teeth because I told her I took a panadol. :laughing:

[justmum]

I suspect people do, yes.

I know that I do.

It's not something I'm proud of. I went through a phase when I was quite medicine happy. Now I try to be more selective about it. But I worry he is in pain sometimes and can't tell me.

[Mum&bubs]

:iagree:



Me too! I RARELY have panadol or the likes, Mum knew something was wrong with my wisdom teeth because I told her I took a panadol. :laughing:

That's like the only time I take panadol :laughing:

[Pices_79]

Definately...I am guilty of this...Since starting CC DD has been sick - combined getting teeth she has quite a bit of panadol over the last 9 months! She never has more than the recommended level but she does have when she needs it!

[MummaBear03]

I know parents who provide panadol to give to kids they fill out a medication form and it's given to them even we don't feel they are sick, no runny nose, not grizzly, nothing but we give it to them because it's in the medication folder that the parents have filled in and the panadol has a chemist lable on it for that child. Parents give panadol to get kids to sleep better through the day and at night. I don't use anything much at all, unless she's got a high temperature or has been hurt like when she got burnt once. Last time I got the panadol out to give her some it was out of date and still an almost full bottle :o so we had a late night trip to the chemist.

[our little treasures]

I do agree that some are drug free. I personally do use panadol when my children are sick and grizzly.

I have recently completed my first aid course and the guy told us all that panadol is NOT an enemy infact it is very hard to do damage to the liver with panadol if you use it correctly.

My ds recently downed a whole bottle of panadol that I had left on the bench while I bent down to give it to his sister he drank the bottle. Anyhoo, I was frantic rang the poisons line and they said no damage at all to the liver would have happened with the entire contents of the bottle.:eek:

ETA Panadol doesn't make my kids sleepy it actually makes them more awake and alert

[MummaBear03]

ETA Panadol doesn't make my kids sleepy it actually makes them more awake and alert
Same with mine but it knocks some kids out. Nurofen is worse than panadol for making her bounce off the walls :p

[Refresh]

Panadol makes my DD hyper too:yes: Will keep her awake at night.....NOt a good thing for a sick child IMO:no:

I am quite scared of giving my kids panadol wen they have a fever:(

[Fuchsia!]

I think so, yeah....

I try everything before i resort to meds. Unless the temp is very very high and im talking 39 then i would give him it.

Temps are there for a reason as far as im concerned, so unless its getting too high for my liking then i don't give it.

Me on the other hand, i am quite happy to take a panadol for a headache. I suffer from regular geadaches which can turn into migraines so i like to keep my pain down as much as i can

[~Bec~]

I can only speak for myself rather than guess what other parents do. We have baby panadol, bonjella, nurofen and dimitab (or whatever it's called) in the fridge but it's there in case we need it in the middle of the night, ie a last resort and we are most definately not drug happy. I guess some people are - just like anything there will be those that do, those that don't and those that fall somewhere in between.

[Silvana]

I have given DD panadol when she got her vaxes, and at times of suffering a cold. She had some a month ago due to an ear infection. Also had nurofen yesterday, because her molars are coming through and she was screaming the house down, all day. The nurofen helped her and she wasn't bouncing off the walls.

She has been teething on and off now for months, but I only give it on really bad days.

Pain relief is fine if not abused, just like anything else.

For the sniffles I just put vicks on her chest now and it seems to be far more effective. Coughs I don't medicate for unless it is very disruptive to her sleep. They do need to sleep to get better.

[Mummaholic]

I agree, as with most drugs, pain relief meds can be abused.

However, when my child is in pain or has a fever, I would not hestitate to do the same for them as I would for myself (ie take a panadol).

[taliistheword]

i have used nurofen and it is the only thing thats works for tali, now i have been up at the hopital with lo since tuesday and i know what u mean when the do temps and stuff and it is too high they will give them it, at them moment she is having nurofen with her bottom because she had to have two boils cut out so, i'm using it as a pain killer but i do agree people are too drug happy

[naiwen]

I am not afraid to give it too him if he is refusing feeds or screaming because of pain but I feel that as we have spent so much time in hospitalI am well educated about how to use it.
If you looked in my medicine section of the fridge you would say I was drug happy but he would get very very sick without his ventolin, omeprazole etc!

[sweetsugardumplin']

I don't know about being `drug happy' but people do use over the counter and prescribed medications for their children for a variety of reasons.

Some people do over/mis use drugs to keep their children quiet/asleep/calm - personally I think this is wrong.

But there are some people who are very concerned about their children being in pain and discomfort(and unable to communicate this) so perhaps they reach for the bottle of panadol/nurofen etc because they cannot bear to think of their child being in pain.

I also think we have become somewhat disconnected from natural therapy - beit, letting the body fight infection (a rise in temp. increased mucus secretions, coughing) or using herbs (I only used camomile when DS was teething and I found it really helped)

But really, certain elements of our culture do want to treat symptoms rather than the cause. And I think it is easy to get sucked into this.

ETA: Sorry for my ramblings, I was trying to make a point - hope that I did. :o

[Scout]

My DS lived with ear infections for about 9 months straight so he did have a lot of panadol/nurofen - he had to have something to control pain and fever, he was in agony.

It's the antibiotics that make me crazy - DS had 13 prescriptions in 9 months and yet I still had to beg for a referral to a specialist!

[justmum]

But there are some people who are very concerned about their children being in pain and discomfort(and unable to communicate this) so perhaps they reach for the bottle of panadol/nurofen etc because they cannot bear to think of their child being in pain.

It's like you've read my mind here - this is exactly how I feel.

[TeamAwesome]

I try not to over do it and haven't had to give my kids anything for a while:thumbsup: but every now and then we've had a week or two of serious teething which has required it.


I even do it for myself, If I have a headache someone asks "Did you take a panadol" and they are always surprised when I say "Nope" :no:

:laughing: Me too much prefer to have lots of water and a nap (or to rest on the lounge with the kids watching a dvd) that being said I can't take tablets so my pain relief has been very limited growing up.

My DH knew I was in some serious pain when I made him go to the chemist for some soluble panadeine after I had bub #3 and I had tears streaming down my face from the after birth pains especially while feeding:(. Talk about painful!:thumbsdown:

[Nowhere]

Every day we adminster
Losec
zantac
epilim
domperadone
maxalon
intal
pulmicoirt
ventolin

all these meds are every day some are 3 times a day some are twice a day, so yes i gues was are prety drug happy but my DD needs them so we use them kwim, We dont use panadol that much only for temps as my DDs is a fitter and i would rather give her meds to bring a temp down then have her fitting, we dont use pain killer for teething for the simple fact my DD is not bother by her teeth at all

Mikenzee has also had pain stop, neuraphen, morphine, etc but all under the instuction of the drs, she also has her liver function tested all the time as she has an enlarged liver

[GraceUnhearing]

yes very very much so!

DS does not ever get any of that stuff unless it is an absolute emergency!

panadol stains his nappies permanently grey! so whats it doing to his little insides!


I have seen parents constantly giving their children panadol and ibuprofen or cough and cold medicine when these kids arent even sick!
they are just a little grumpy!


it makes me so sad to see a babies face light up when they see their mother take out a bottle of pain medicine :(

the only things that go into DS mouth are natural things (apart from the things he puts in there hahaha)

[GraceUnhearing]

there are still people around who give their children phnergan (sp) to settle them down and make them sleep!

i think that is dreadful and any parent that does that should be ashamed of themselves!

[Nowhere]

there are still people around who give their children phnergan (sp) to settle them down and make them sleep!

i think that is dreadful and any parent that does that should be ashamed of themselves!

My dd has had phernergan to help her sleep im NOT ashamed of my self at all, Read the list of meds my child is on its above your post she has many health issues and phernergan actualy helps with her alergies and also with her nausea and when she is having one of her abdominal migrains we give her panadol and phernergaon on the adive of the drs yes it helps her sleep but I am NOT ashamed at all

If you have any sugestions on what you think would be suitible for my DD please let me know as i am dieing o find out what a good mum would do

I actualy have script from the dr to give her phernergan every night but i dont as i do not think it is needed but she has ad it on a few ocasions as i said above when she has a abdo migrain and id maxed out on all her meds and she is so tired but cant sleep, she also fits when over tired so when you weigh it up fit phernergan its not a hard choice

Bit if you have any tips let me know what do you do in that sisutation

[Freya]

My dd has had phernergan to help her sleep im NOT ashamed of my self at all, Read the list of meds my child is on its above your post she has many health issues and phernergan actualy helps with her alergies and also with her nausea and when she is having one of her abdominal migrains we give her panadol and phernergaon on the adive of the drs yes it helps her sleep but I am NOT ashamed at all

If you have any sugestions on what you think would be suitible for my DD please let me know as i am dieing o find out what a good mum would do

I actualy have script from the dr to give her phernergan every night but i dont as i do not think it is needed but she has ad it on a few ocasions as i said above when she has a abdo migrain and id maxed out on all her meds and she is so tired but cant sleep, she also fits when over tired so when you weigh it up fit phernergan its not a hard choice

Bit if you have any tips let me know what do you do in that sisutation

Amy obviously she is not talking about your circumstances.:hugs:

[zenifa]

I don't know about being `drug happy' but people do use over the counter and prescribed medications for their children for a variety of reasons.

Some people do over/mis use drugs to keep their children quiet/asleep/calm - personally I think this is wrong.

But there are some people who are very concerned about their children being in pain and discomfort(and unable to communicate this) so perhaps they reach for the bottle of panadol/nurofen etc because they cannot bear to think of their child being in pain.

I also think we have become somewhat disconnected from natural therapy - beit, letting the body fight infection (a rise in temp. increased mucus secretions, coughing) or using herbs (I only used camomile when DS was teething and I found it really helped)

But really, certain elements of our culture do want to treat symptoms rather than the cause. And I think it is easy to get sucked into this.

ETA: Sorry for my ramblings, I was trying to make a point - hope that I did. :o

I agree. :iagree:

With my girls, I try to avoid giving them anything, as DH and I don't like to take any painkillers or meds unless absolutely necessary and as a last resort.

For teething I have always given the girls a clean cool wet cloth to chew, some cool teethers and if its getting really bad and they are very grizzly or its night we then succumb to some teething gel or rarely panadol.

For colds/flu we have used panadol for fevers and nurofen for pain, but also mainly at night as needed, not routinely (as my GP suggested), but I also use baby balsam on their chest/back and vaporisers to clear those stuffy noses. Although its awful to hear babies/toddlers cough we've never used a cough mixture and know they aren't effective.

For immunisations, I dont' give anything beforehand and keep a close eye afterwards and have on one or two occasions given panadol for a fever, but reluctantly.

I have used homeopathics with the girls, but like anything only as a last resort.

Yes I think some people find it hard to cope with their child when they aren't well and will automatically reach for drugs, as it makes them feel they are doing something. Its easy to feel helpless when your child seems to be suffering and none of you are getting sleep.

[WorkingClassMum]

there are still people around who give their children phnergan (sp) to settle them down and make them sleep!

i think that is dreadful and any parent that does that should be ashamed of themselves!

Well - I am NOT ashamed of occassionally resorting to Phenergan.

You may consider me dreadful all you like - but you have not lived with my daughter and you obvioulsy do not undertand what it's like to live with a child that did not sleep through the night for three years without some assistance.

I did not use it every night, but for the sanity for my entire family and for my daughter's own sanity we did use Phenergan.

Please do not make such sweeping generalisations as they can be very offensive - so you won't get offended if I think that sweeping statements are made out ignorance.

[young_mummie07]

I don't know about being `drug happy' but people do use over the counter and prescribed medications for their children for a variety of reasons.

Some people do use drugs to keep their children quiet/asleep/calm - personally I don't think this is wrong.

But there are some people who are very concerned about their children being in pain and discomfort(and unable to communicate this) so perhaps they reach for the bottle of panadol/nurofen etc because they cannot bear to think of their child being in pain.

I do use panadol and bonjela for my ds when he is teething i can't stand the thought of him being in pain. Everyone has there on ways of raising there children i don't believe that if ur to give ur child pain relief when u feel that is neccassary that ur "Drug Happy" that's my opinon anyway.

[Roopee]

i think that is dreadful and any parent that does that should be ashamed of themselves!
OUCH! But I'm sure you meant that they give it to them 'just because' not when there are underlying issues.;)




Please do not make such sweeping generalisations as they can be very offensive - so you won't get offended if I think that sweeping statements are made out ignorance.
I agree.

I think there are some parents who think that when a baby whinges or whines then they just give them panadol or nurofen to stop the whinging. I think this is a bit silly.
I also think there are some people who are quick to blame 'colic' or 'teeth' for a childs unsettledness when it may not be the case?
Sure it hink some kids are over medicated but i have no drama's giving panadol to my children if they 'really' need it. Re in obvious pain or fever's.
My kids VERY rarely have it and dont really have Nurofen too much at all (maybe twice a year?)- i just think that Nurofen for kids hasnt been around long enough for the 'long term' side effects to be researched and evaluated if that makes snese.

[Milliner]

i don't believe that if ur to give ur child pain relief when u feel that is neccassary that ur "Drug Happy" that's my opinon anyway.

This thread is about OVER use, not giving a child medication when they are clearly in pain.



I think there are some parents who think that when a baby whinges or whines then they just give them panadol or nurofen to stop the whinging. I think this is a bit silly.
I also think there are some people who are quick to blame 'colic' or 'teeth' for a childs unsettledness when it may not be the case?
Sure it hink some kids are over medicated but i have no drama's giving panadol to my children if they 'really' need it. Re in obvious pain or fever's.
My kids VERY rarely have it and dont really have Nurofen too much at all (maybe twice a year?)- i just think that Nurofen for kids hasnt been around long enough for the 'long term' side effects to be researched and evaluated if that makes snese.

:iagree: :iagree::iagree:

[bossoflatch]

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[mum23girls]

Yep, too 'drug happy'.
Some Doctors are too, over-prescribing antibiotics and giving out prescriptions to treat conditions that aren't even diagnosed :thumbsdown:
:iagree::iagree:

and supressants.... don't even get me started on them :hair::hair::banghead:

[naiwen]

I think threads like this can be hard for parents of babies who are on 5+ different medications daily just to keep them out of hospital. Whilst people may say 'Oh we werent talking about bubs who have serious health issues it doesnt stop the sadness. I for one feel awful about giving DS meds every 3/4 hours during the day and holding his mask over his nose and mouth. I know I need to do it to keep him out of the childrens hospital but I still feel guilty for it.

[~Temet Nosce~]

Yeah its definetly over-used..
I guess some people (which I have been in the situation before too) just dont know what else to do as they dont know why their bubs is so whingy, so they give it to cover all areas, in case they are in a bit of pain. I have done it when I didnt know what else to do, but now I try to work it out and try to steer clear of the panadol/neurofen unless its obvious she needs it.
DD has been on antibiotics once, when she was 1 week old, which I am not happy about.. it was for a conjunky eye that wouldnt go away, and in the end they werent even working anyway so I stopped it and just kept cleaning it out, and it went away by itself..
shes had 1 or maybe 2 colds in her 9 months and they werent very bad at all, and I still had people asking me if I was going to take her to get antibiotics :confused: ermm no..
Same with me the other week, I had a sore throat and strait away, go to docs and get antibiotics :confused: I have had them once in my whole life, when I had glandular fever and tonsilitis at the same time, and couldnt shake it. Other than that I have been in good health, and I firmly beleive thats because I HAVNT had any antibiotics and my body has learnt to fight for itself..

[WorkingClassMum]

...but I still feel guilty for it.

:hugs:I think this is one of those "hard love" senarios - and no-one will ever judge you or any other special needs mummy for doing all what's necessary for you very special little bub.

I don't have to contend with the health problems that your family does. My child has her own unique ways that I sometimes struggle with.

I don't medicate my kids for the sake of it, or because I can - I have always used the wait and see option where ever possible.

But my DS is partially deaf due to ear infections and I know shoot up to the Dr immediately that I suspect something going on. I have also learnt to give him pain-relief earlier rather than later - because simple pain-relief doesn't work if you leave it too late - and then you need the big guns. (I also take an asprin at the first sign of a headache - cos if I get a migrain I need to be hospitalised)

I also give my DD phenergan when her sleeping patterns get out of whack. I feel asleep at the wheel of my car due to sleep deprivation caused by DD not sleeping more that 2-3 hours at night - for three years!!!. It nearly broke family apart. I also use "natural" remedies, but resort to medication when I need to.

Like all things in life - all things in moderation. Some people will abuse medications, some people will err on the side of caution.

I also believe that you cannot judge someone until you have lived their lives (I don't wear other peoples shoes:D).

[4babycinos]

there are still people around who give their children phnergan (sp) to settle them down and make them sleep!

i think that is dreadful and any parent that does that should be ashamed of themselves!


This is my MIL when ds now 4 wouldnt sleep through. I just wanted to slap her one! Because thats what they use to do :hissy:

I'm all for medication as long as its used appropriately. The way I see it is if you need cold and flu meds, pain relief when sick then why wouldnt your bubs when they are sick? As, I said used appropriately I dont see the problem.

I have a good friend whos kids are pretty much immune to the highest dose of antibiotics they can have.... now I think thats pretty sad :no:

[naiwen]

[quote=KayteO;2507501]:hugs:I think this is one of those "hard love" senarios - and no-one will ever judge you or any other special needs mummy for doing all what's necessary for you very special little bub.

I don't have to contend with the health problems that your family does. My child has her own unique ways that I sometimes struggle with.



Thankyou for that KayteO :hugs: that means a lot :hugs:

[sja]

My BIL is a GP and he's continually amazed at the people who bring in their babies and small kids for antibiotics. He'll tell them it's just a small cold, lots of rest will make them better and they tell him they want antibiotics. He's been abused quite a few times by mums who are adamant their child needs antibiotics :no:. He's even had a couple storm out saying they'll just go see another doctor.

Last year DD had an infected finger and I took her to the GP. He asked what type of antibiotics she'd had before. I said she's never had them and he was shocked. She was only 4! I said none of my kids have and he was sooo surprised. I told him that I've been given various prescriptions over the years from when I've taken my kids to the doctor to check that a cold is just a cold and not more serious. But I never filled the scripts - I always wait a few days and by then they get better. So I think antibiotics are both prescribed too much as well as demanded too much.

And don't get me started on the over-the-counter drugs. Some people dish these out to their kids for any tiny thing. I have a friend with twins and if one is sick they both get panadol, because they love the taste and she hates to say no to them. So the perfectly healthy one gets dosed up too :rolleyes:

[Mummaholic]

Antibiotics is a different kettle of fish, I think.

My son certainly has had antibiotics a few times, but not because I wanted to give them to him lol. He had URT infections etc and was ill.

Let's remember all children are different, some are better than fighting colds, flu and infections than others. Just because I believe taking panadol for a headache is perfectly acceptable does not mean I think anyone that doesn't is *crazy*! Perhaps this should be vice versa???

[~Temet Nosce~]

I should probably add, although I now try to avoid panadol or neurofen with dd where I can, I pop them way too much :rolleyes::laughing:
I hate headaches :p

[charlen49]

I agree, as with most drugs, pain relief meds can be abused.

However, when my child is in pain or has a fever, I would not hestitate to do the same for them as I would for myself (ie take a panadol).:iagree::iagree:..i wnet through a period about 2 months ago where i was using nurofen(2 doses) very day for a couple of weeks..my dd cried everyday..i would too if i had 4 huge molars all coming through at once...she is happy now and hasnt had any more.
I have dinetapp(hardly used in the cupboard) as i suspect (like me) dd suffers an occasional boat of hayfevber..runny nose itchy eyes,sneezing..genarlly irittable..i knew she was suffering yesty as i was a well..so i resorted to giving her some yesty..she was a lot happeir and slept well..she isnt as bad today..so i havent given her any...if anyone has suffered from hayfever out there..it can be quite unbearable. I can also honestly say dd has never had antibiatic and since birth has never been to the DR,s...so i am quite lucky(touch wood) in that sense..but its another one of those..you know your child and you do whats best..and i really dont give a flying hoot what any one else thinks..JMO


Well - I am NOT ashamed of occassionally resorting to Phenergan.

You may consider me dreadful all you like - but you have not lived with my daughter and you obvioulsy do not undertand what it's like to live with a child that did not sleep through the night for three years without some assistance.

I did not use it every night, but for the sanity for my entire family and for my daughter's own sanity we did use Phenergan.

Please do not make such sweeping generalisations as they can be very offensive - so you won't get offended if I think that sweeping statements are made out ignorance.

[Berrie]

Ugh, yes. I know a mother who's daughter's immune system is becoming compromised from the amount of medication she gives her (just my opinion, mind you).

[Nowhere]

I think threads like this can be hard for parents of babies who are on 5+ different medications daily just to keep them out of hospital. Whilst people may say 'Oh we werent talking about bubs who have serious health issues it doesnt stop the sadness. I for one feel awful about giving DS meds every 3/4 hours during the day and holding his mask over his nose and mouth. I know I need to do it to keep him out of the childrens hospital but I still feel guilty for it.

:iagree:

and hugs julie, I HATE breathing treatments GRR miki has hers running as i typle lol she fel asleep so i got chance to put her prongs near her nose wile she sleeps

OMG am i over useing nebs I dont think so, she stil satting at 93 so clearly needs them

[MummaBear03]

:iagree:

and hugs julie, I HATE breathing treatments GRR miki has hers running as i typle lol she fel asleep so i got chance to put her prongs near her nose wile she sleeps

OMG am i over useing nebs I dont think so, she stil satting at 93 so clearly needs them
You are doing the very best by your little girl and even though it's hard, she'll love you so much for it when she's old enough to realise it's for her you are doing it. This thread is about giving children meds when it isn't necessary though. I had a friend stay with me once and it had rained overnight so she gave her child vitamin C with echinacea before breakfast then panadol with breakfast *in case* she was starting to get a cold from the rain through the night. The child didn't get sick and the mother said that it's because she dosed her up before it had the chance to hit. Well, mine didn't get sick and she wasn't dosed up on anything at all.

[Nowhere]

You are doing the very best by your little girl and even though it's hard, she'll love you so much for it when she's old enough to realise it's for her you are doing it. This thread is about giving children meds when it isn't necessary though. I had a friend stay with me once and it had rained overnight so she gave her child vitamin C with echinacea before breakfast then panadol with breakfast *in case* she was starting to get a cold from the rain through the night. The child didn't get sick and the mother said that it's because she dosed her up before it had the chance to hit. Well, mine didn't get sick and she wasn't dosed up on anything at all.


OMG are you seriuos that is hillarious what a nutter lol, Does she also put platers on her kids imbs before playing sport incase they fall, Im sory but that is OVER USE lol

[MummaBear03]

OMG are you seriuos that is hillarious what a nutter lol, Does she also put platers on her kids imbs before playing sport incase they fall, Im sory but that is OVER USE lol
Sports to her is indoor bowling, her kids won't be doing any high-impact sports, or even swimming like we do because sometimes the training is so intense the competetive swimmers work so hard they vomit through the training sessions. She thinks I'm nuts wanting my dd to do little athletics and gymnastics next year :rolleyes:thinks I'm endangering my child.

[Nowhere]

Sports to her is indoor bowling, her kids won't be doing any high-impact sports, or even swimming like we do because sometimes the training is so intense the competetive swimmers work so hard they vomit through the training sessions. She thinks I'm nuts wanting my dd to do little athletics and gymnastics next year :rolleyes:thinks I'm endangering my child.

ROFL hahaha thanks for making me laugh, i have had a shocking morning and now sat at the screen laughing my head of, sounds like yoiur friend has some odd theories

thanks again lol

[SassyDiva]

I think alot of people reach for medication way too fast, but I also think it comes down to experience. Everyone wants the best for their child and u never want to see them in pain so I understand why people do it. But for my children, I prefer to get to why his in pain and treat that rather than to mask it with a pain killer..

Saying that tho I always have pain killers in our medical kit becuase u can bet if u need it, it will be at 2am. Also if u need to heal over time you will always heal better pain free.

Thats where experience comes into it.. know your child, know symptoms and how to treat things that come up

[tyler's mum]

I only give them to tyler if she really needs them

[UmmInayah]

I think threads like this can be hard for parents of babies who are on 5+ different medications daily just to keep them out of hospital. Whilst people may say 'Oh we werent talking about bubs who have serious health issues it doesnt stop the sadness. I for one feel awful about giving DS meds every 3/4 hours during the day and holding his mask over his nose and mouth. I know I need to do it to keep him out of the childrens hospital but I still feel guilty for it.

I completely agree with this comment. When I first saw the thread I was a little put off because there are circumstances where meds are really important.

[tyler's mum]

I completely agree with this comment. When I first saw the thread I was a little put off because there are circumstances where meds are really important.

I sont think thats what this thread was about if your given your kids meds for health reason thats a bit different to given them something for the flu

[UmmInayah]

I sont think thats what this thread was about if your given your kids meds for health reason thats a bit different to given them something for the flu

You're right. But seeing it from the point of view from someone who has to give meds and feels really guilty about it, I can see where naiwen is coming from.

Isn't the flu a health reason? :D

I personally don't feel bad for giving my DD anything to help her if she is in noticeable pain.

[mum_I'm_hungry]

I know I always want to reach for the panadol, but my husband is a doctor and is forever stopping me. I get big lectures on letting the kids' bodies fight off the infection and it's better for them to go without the panadol and fight away. It's hard to watch them be sick and unhappy, but I guess it's also helpful in that being a bit hot stops them running around like crazy things and they get a bit more rest.

[Milliner]

I completely agree with this comment. When I first saw the thread I was a little put off because there are circumstances where meds are really important.

Again, this thread is about the over use of over the counter medication. Nothing else - it's not about children that have prescribed medication, far from it. It's about children being given medication when they do not need it, or just in case or as someone else suggest to keep them quiet (wouldn't want your child to make a noise now would you :p), or calm or asleep. :eek:

[Jeclipse]

From whats written here, I think its been based on just judgements and not actually stats iykwim?

I'd love to see stats on this, as I don't think that it would be overused that much.



Imo Panadol doesn't work well on most pain for my DS, I gave him some once for teething pain and it didn't do anything, just made him more active. It is sad that doctors say to use it for maybe just sniffles aswell.

[WorkingClassMum]

Again, this thread is about the over use of over the counter medication. Nothing else - it's not about children that have prescribed medication, far from it. It's about children being given medication when they do not need it, or just in case or as someone else suggest to keep them quiet (wouldn't want your child to make a noise now would you :p), or calm or asleep. :eek:

Unfortunately once a thread has started - it has a life of it's own as people will always have their opinion or slant and a different understanding of a topic.

I understand it was originally the question are people/parents overdosing their kids, or too quick to reach for a medication. But one opinion was that any of one particular medication was wrong, so people felt the need to defend what they do (I was one of those)

I do agree that medication is tooo easy. But I do not agree that using one particular medication is dreadful or shameful or that broad sweeping statements are helpful in having a discussion.

I DO use a medication to keep my child quiet.
I DO use a medication to MAKE my child sleep.
It's either that or I'll throttle her...

[Milliner]

Unfortunately once a thread has started - it has a life of it's own as people will always have their opinion or slant and a different understanding of a topic.



I've been on here long enough I should know by now. Threads never go off track now do they. :rolleyes:

[Angelmist♥]

So do YOU think people are to happy to give their children ‘drugs’ (Panadol, nurofen, demazin) at the first sign of a sniffle, little grizzle etc.

Surely it can’t be good for their little bodies.

DD is a cryer and when she was having a bad day I was asked if I had given her Panadol? I said no - the response I got was, 'why the hell not, I would?!?!?!??!?!' :eek:

ETA I am talking about over using these medications.

IMO yes people are getting way too 'drug happy' when it comes to children.


Yep, too 'drug happy'.
Some Doctors are too, over-prescribing antibiotics and giving out prescriptions to treat conditions that aren't even diagnosed :thumbsdown:
I definitely agree. Our old neighbour would take her 6 and 4yr old sons to the doctor at the first sign of a sniffle and demand antibiotics. Honestly, it was a doctor's trip within every fortnight. If the doc refused, she'd go to the next one until she got what she wanted:(

[reAllytee]

From whats written here, I think its been based on just judgements and not actually stats iykwim?

I'd love to see stats on this, as I don't think that it would be overused that much.



Imo Panadol doesn't work well on most pain for my DS, I gave him some once for teething pain and it didn't do anything, just made him more active. It is sad that doctors say to use it for maybe just sniffles aswell.


:iagree:

I too would love to know if it really is overused as much as people assume !

Many are just making judgements on what they see so assume : EVIL PARENT !!!!

Ok so im another that may be perceived as being drug happy but i really couldnt care less ! You may think i do easily give my kids something like Panadol but for me its the best option.

I just spent the last week & a half in hospital & have actually seen what can happen when someone doesnt give a child medication for a high temp because they think its uneccessary or feel its the bodies way of fighting something off.

This gorgeous little man who was a happy healthy 4yr old is now pretty much a vegetable with a brain injury. Now this isnt actually the mothers fault funnily enough as she did what was right when at home by using Panadol it was the delays of medical staff when they got to hospital saying " its just his body fighting off an infection " ... They now have to learn how to cope with a high needs child that will require so much for the rest of his life.

So to me this confirmed my stance on making sure my kids get Panadol as necessary or my fav which is natural Brauers Pain & Fever Relief.

I know someone mentioned they dont take meds for a headache themselves so why should they give it to their child. Well for me i know how headaches hurt & i can deal with them etc but my kids dont. They are too little to understand & get way too distressed. So IMO its horrible leaving a child distressed & in pain.

When a child is upset there is a reason & even the doctors ive now been seeing say the whole idea of saying " Oh she/he is just grizzly today " is a load of cr@p ... If a child is upset there is a reason !

Yes we are talking about the overuse of meds like Panadol but a thread like this can end with people making assumptions & saying this which really can upset someone like naiwen, M's mum or even myself who's kids desperately need medication.

[mum23girls]

From whats written here, I think its been based on just judgements and not actually stats iykwim?

I'd love to see stats on this, as I don't think that it would be overused that much.

It is very common, and just a quick 30 second database search came up with many many studies into the abuse of OTC medications... particularly cold meds, as they are the most common. I don't have time to go through all of them as I have my own research that I should be doing. :hair: but rest assured they are out there.....


Title:Efficacy, abuse, and toxicity of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines in the pediatric population
Introduction
Upper respiratory infections and cough are common presenting complaints to pediatricians' offices. The child with a fever, runny nose, and a seemingly constant cough, as well as the parent who has lost hours of work and sleep taking care of his or her child frequently seek relief through self-treatment or their pediatrician. Although the expected natural course of these illnesses in otherwise healthy children is usually brief, physicians are confronted with the option of whether or not to treat the symptoms, often at the request of tired and frustrated caregivers.
With the burden of offering some type of relief from the symptoms of cough and cold, pediatricians often recommend both over-the-counter (OTC) and prescription cough and cold preparations as first-line therapy. In the absence of bacterial complications, such as acute otitis media, sinusitis, and pneumonia, the symptoms of acute upper respiratory infection are typically mild and transient. Although they are generally safe and well tolerated, the risks and benefits of treatment with these medications must be compared. This review will discuss the pharmacologic components of OTC cough and cold preparations, the evidence for their efficacy, their abuse, and their potential toxic effects.

Conclusion
OTC cough and cold preparations are frequently recommended by pediatricians and purchased by caregivers to provide relief of symptoms of acute upper respiratory infections in children. Given the lack of data that these medications are effective in children and their potential toxic effects, it would seem that they possess questionable utility in the setting of acute upper respiratory infection. Pediatricians should rather focus on parental education concerning the expected brief course of cough and congestion, and the importance of maintaining adequate hydration in these situations.

[naiwen]

:iagree:

I too would love to know if it really is overused as much as people assume !

Many are just making judgements on what they see so assume : EVIL PARENT !!!!

Ok so im another that may be perceived as being drug happy but i really couldnt care less ! You may think i do easily give my kids something like Panadol but for me its the best option.

I just spent the last week & a half in hospital & have actually seen what can happen when someone doesnt give a child medication for a high temp because they think its uneccessary or feel its the bodies way of fighting something off.

This gorgeous little man who was a happy healthy 4yr old is now pretty much a vegetable with a brain injury. Now this isnt actually the mothers fault funnily enough as she did what was right when at home by using Panadol it was the delays of medical staff when they got to hospital saying " its just his body fighting off an infection " ... They now have to learn how to cope with a high needs child that will require so much for the rest of his life.

So to me this confirmed my stance on making sure my kids get Panadol as necessary or my fav which is natural Brauers Pain & Fever Relief.

I know someone mentioned they dont take meds for a headache themselves so why should they give it to their child. Well for me i know how headaches hurt & i can deal with them etc but my kids dont. They are too little to understand & get way too distressed. So IMO its horrible leaving a child distressed & in pain.

When a child is upset there is a reason & even the doctors ive now been seeing say the whole idea of saying " Oh she/he is just grizzly today " is a load of cr@p ... If a child is upset there is a reason !

Yes we are talking about the overuse of meds like Panadol but a thread like this can end with people making assumptions & saying this which really can upset someone like naiwen, M's mum or even myself who's kids desperately need medication.

:iagree: A lot of the Dr's and nurses in Paediatric emergency say not to give panadol but they soon take that back when DS refuses too feed and his sats drop because his body cannot cope with temps and his other problems.
You would be horrified if you saw my medicine cabinet!
PS Allyoo so glad you are home from hospy, all the SN mummys will symapthise with you about hospital stays

[UmmInayah]

:iagree:

I too would love to know if it really is overused as much as people assume !

Many are just making judgements on what they see so assume : EVIL PARENT !!!!

Ok so im another that may be perceived as being drug happy but i really couldnt care less ! You may think i do easily give my kids something like Panadol but for me its the best option.

I just spent the last week & a half in hospital & have actually seen what can happen when someone doesnt give a child medication for a high temp because they think its uneccessary or feel its the bodies way of fighting something off.

This gorgeous little man who was a happy healthy 4yr old is now pretty much a vegetable with a brain injury. Now this isnt actually the mothers fault funnily enough as she did what was right when at home by using Panadol it was the delays of medical staff when they got to hospital saying " its just his body fighting off an infection " ... They now have to learn how to cope with a high needs child that will require so much for the rest of his life.

So to me this confirmed my stance on making sure my kids get Panadol as necessary or my fav which is natural Brauers Pain & Fever Relief.

I know someone mentioned they dont take meds for a headache themselves so why should they give it to their child. Well for me i know how headaches hurt & i can deal with them etc but my kids dont. They are too little to understand & get way too distressed. So IMO its horrible leaving a child distressed & in pain.

When a child is upset there is a reason & even the doctors ive now been seeing say the whole idea of saying " Oh she/he is just grizzly today " is a load of cr@p ... If a child is upset there is a reason !

Yes we are talking about the overuse of meds like Panadol but a thread like this can end with people making assumptions & saying this which really can upset someone like naiwen, M's mum or even myself who's kids desperately need medication.

Well said, allyoo!

[mum_I'm_hungry]

You're getting a little upset about this. There is a big difference between a child who has serious medical issues and needs medication and a child who is given panadol as soon as he/she sniffs. No-one is saying you are a bad parent because you need to give your child medication, the question is simply are people over-medicating if they give panadol quite freely.

The last time we were at kids emergency I noticed some very large new posters that discussed at some length why you shouldn't rush in to giving your kids pandol/ibuprofen too liberally. It was interesting reading and has certainly made me think about how much I give it (along with the lectures from my husband!). Stopping and questioning your use can only be a good thing, even if you do decide to go ahead and give a dose after thinking about it :thumbsup:

[charlen49]

:iagree:

I too would love to know if it really is overused as much as people assume !

Many are just making judgements on what they see so assume : EVIL PARENT !!!!

Ok so im another that may be perceived as being drug happy but i really couldnt care less ! You may think i do easily give my kids something like Panadol but for me its the best option.

I just spent the last week & a half in hospital & have actually seen what can happen when someone doesnt give a child medication for a high temp because they think its uneccessary or feel its the bodies way of fighting something off.

This gorgeous little man who was a happy healthy 4yr old is now pretty much a vegetable with a brain injury. Now this isnt actually the mothers fault funnily enough as she did what was right when at home by using Panadol it was the delays of medical staff when they got to hospital saying " its just his body fighting off an infection " ... They now have to learn how to cope with a high needs child that will require so much for the rest of his life.

So to me this confirmed my stance on making sure my kids get Panadol as necessary or my fav which is natural Brauers Pain & Fever Relief.

I know someone mentioned they dont take meds for a headache themselves so why should they give it to their child. Well for me i know how headaches hurt & i can deal with them etc but my kids dont. They are too little to understand & get way too distressed. So IMO its horrible leaving a child distressed & in pain.

When a child is upset there is a reason & even the doctors ive now been seeing say the whole idea of saying " Oh she/he is just grizzly today " is a load of cr@p ... If a child is upset there is a reason !

Yes we are talking about the overuse of meds like Panadol but a thread like this can end with people making assumptions & saying this which really can upset someone like naiwen, M's mum or even myself who's kids desperately need medication.:laughing: for once i totally agree!!!!!!!!:yes:

[Nowhere]

yer well it is easy to get upset about it when you do use alot of medication on your child even if it is needed it is stil heart breaking to have to medicate your child constantly, yes this thread was started about panadol and such then there was a heartless coment about phernergan, what next I can tel you some of the medication is regulaly use on my DD and others use on there that is a heck of alot stronger then the stuff your talking about so yes its stil heard to stomach coments like any one who does such and such should be ashamed KWIM

As i have said before something that some wil never understand is that circumstance may alter your opinion on things KWIM if my DD was born perfectly healthy and was able to feed and not need medication i might have a difernt tube to sing just like if another parent of a perfectly healthy child might change there tune if there child had been born ill and they had to pump there child full of meds to keep them alive

So if people are getting a bit upset like me and my good friends Julie (naiwen) its becuase our lifes are difernt to yours we are doing what we need to do to help our kids stay alive and out of pain

I really hope non of you ever have to see what its like from our point of veiw but i tel you if you ever do, your opnion will change i can garentee you of that

I dont like the fact my DD is medicated every day of her life and will be for ever but the fact is she needs it, if she has a temp i give her panadol also becuase other wise she will fit and I know full wek if she has a ful blown fit she wil be given more then panadol,

Also yes i do wory about my DDs liver she has LFT every few months as she is on that much meds we also need her liver to be in as good chape as posible for the simple fact she may end up on TPN ( iv food) and that screws with the liver.

I only use medication that is needed that is ordered by the dr but still hate doing it

[Refresh]

I too think there is a huge difference between neccessary medication and unneccesary.....this thread isnt about people who's children have ongoing medical conditions which require medication...not at all....the two things are worlds apart....even the comment about the phenergan was not directed at people who NEED to use it, I took it as beind toward people who use it for their own convenince.....very different IMO.....I dont think anyone here would say that people lie MM and Naiwen shouldnt be using medication on their children, that would be absurd.

I think things like panadol and antibiotics are scarily overused these days but that doesnt mean that people should use no medication at all..

[UmmInayah]

I think the term "over used" can mean different things to different people.

[forbetoel]

I guess some people may use it too much...I don't really know.

I never had crying babies so I might have innocently suggested the same thing,(to give her panadol) thinking that maybe something was wrong, like sore gums, tummy ache, headache...whatever.

It is a very individual thing I guess.

[reAllytee]

I think the term "over used" can mean different things to different people.

:yes::yes:

Exactly !

One mum may think me giving Panadol to G because he is cranky or wont sleep is overuse but i think otherwise.

Different perceptions !

What we are also talking about is many making judgements without knowing the full story.

As in when out & about how many of you are thinking say myself or others are overusing them when you dont know a damn thing about why we are using them.

I have also used Neurofen on Boof many many times to make him sleep so that comment about people using Phenergan for the same reason does come across as nasty & judgemental.

What else are many of us to do when we have a child who refuses to sleep & no doctor listens to us ! Yep i guess it is over use etc but seriously my child needs to sleep.

[forbetoel]

If I had a child who never slept, I don't know what I would resort to, so I am certainly not going to judge anyone on that one. I was blessed with great sleepers, and I honestly don't know how I would have coped given the opposite senario.

[UmmInayah]

:yes::yes:

Exactly !

One mum may think me giving Panadol to G because he is cranky or wont sleep is overuse but i think otherwise.

Different perceptions !

What we are also talking about is many making judgements without knowing the full story.

As in when out & about how many of you are thinking say myself or others are overusing them when you dont know a damn thing about why we are using them.

I have also used Neurofen on Boof many many times to make him sleep so that comment about people using Phenergan for the same reason does come across as nasty & judgemental.

What else are many of us to do when we have a child who refuses to sleep & no doctor listens to us ! Yep i guess it is over use etc but seriously my child needs to sleep.

I have used Nurofen a couple of times to get DD to sleep lately. I don't regret doing it, because the reason for her constant waking MUST mean she is in SOME sort of pain, whether it be teething etc.

[Shera]

I agree that pain relief medication is used far too much, there are alternative pain relief methods & ways of bringing down a fever, however there are circumstances where paracetamol or ibruprofen may need to be administered.

Breastfeeding is a wonderful pain relief for babies & toddlers! If my son was sick or hurt as a baby or toddler - it was straight on the breast & it soothed him immediately, it even helped when he had ear infections & a gastric bug - though there were times when I did need to give him paracetamol. My daughter has only had paracetamol 3 times in her life & she's 13.

I believe that the most important thing we can do to avoid unnecessarily medicating our children, is to educate ourselves about pain relief medications to ensure that we know both the pros & the cons of usage. - University libraries are free to use & a wealth of knowledge - just check out the health & medical sections for all of the latest research & studies.

[Refresh]

I guess for me, my problem with it is more from my experiences of being in hospital and having to be really assertive for them not to give my children panandol for very mild fevers. I feel really strongly that this can cause more harm than good and it makes me uncomfortable to have to explain this every 20 mins when they come back to check if I have changed my mind. I am happy to give panadol for a dangerous fever but not for one of 37.9

I have been guilty of judging my step mother I guess and should stop...we have vastly different parenting styles and lives....which is fine, well, should be:)

[Nowhere]

I guess for me, my problem with it is more from my experiences of being in hospital and having to be really assertive for them not to give my children panandol for very mild fevers. I feel really strongly that this can cause more harm than good and it makes me uncomfortable to have to explain this every 20 mins when they come back to check if I have changed my mind. I am happy to give panadol for a dangerous fever but not for one of 37.9

I have been guilty of judging my step mother I guess and should stop...we have vastly different parenting styles and lives....which is fine, well, should be:)

Yer i know what you mean with that only difernce was they the drs was writing up morphine when in my opinion pnadol would have cut it KWIM, so i asked for that instead and we weaned ehr off the morphine, also i dont give panadol for any temp upder 38.5 as i dont class that as a high fever KWIM

[reAllytee]

I agree that pain relief medication is used far too much, there are alternative pain relief methods & ways of bringing down a fever, however there are circumstances where paracetamol or ibruprofen may need to be administered.

Breastfeeding is a wonderful pain relief for babies & toddlers! If my son was sick or hurt as a baby or toddler - it was straight on the breast & it soothed him immediately, it even helped when he had ear infections & a gastric bug - though there were times when I did need to give him paracetamol. My daughter has only had paracetamol 3 times in her life & she's 13.

I believe that the most important thing we can do to avoid unnecessarily medicating our children, is to educate ourselves about pain relief medications to ensure that we know both the pros & the cons of usage. - University libraries are free to use & a wealth of knowledge - just check out the health & medical sections for all of the latest research & studies.

Oh how i wish the boob could cut it here as the pain relief ... I would give my left foot for that to happen.



I guess for me, my problem with it is more from my experiences of being in hospital and having to be really assertive for them not to give my children panandol for very mild fevers. I feel really strongly that this can cause more harm than good and it makes me uncomfortable to have to explain this every 20 mins when they come back to check if I have changed my mind. I am happy to give panadol for a dangerous fever but not for one of 37.9

I have been guilty of judging my step mother I guess and should stop...we have vastly different parenting styles and lives....which is fine, well, should be:)

Oh & i get that ! That seems really really weird !

Just being at the hospital the last week & a half saw Squeak have a temp one nite of 38 but they did nothing just waited it out to see if it rose ... Instead the child decided the following nite to freak everyone out by dropping to 34 :eek: .... Bl00dy kids ;)

[Areca]

I agree with Ally.

[our little treasures]

I agree with Ally as well.

How come I have read so many posts with parents who don't give panadol but are happy to pop a panadol for themselves because they can't take the pain:confused: WTF!!

I am opposite I would rather deal with the pain than watch my child suffer. Sorry but to me that is just wrong..

As for antibiotics our Gp's don't like handing prescriptions out for antibiotics unless there is a need. When we all get a cold DS gets a chest infection that he can never fight, he ends up on antibiotics and my other 2 rarely get antibiotics. Recently DS went through 3 courses of antibiotics and his chest still did not clear he was taken off the antibiotics and was sent for more testing. So there is no way we could overuse them.

[OneNowOneLater]

I try to only give DD panadol when she has a major fever, or really painfully teething.

Unfortunatley for me, it happened like two weeks ago, with both at once. She had a temp for like 4 days over the 39 mark. Turns out it was tonsillitis and a uti. luckily the antibiotics cleared them up and got rid of her temp. unfortunately the uti antibiotics she was given (Keflex - Cephalexin) she has an allergy too. luckily it didnt develp till just after she had gotten over the uti.

[Fuchsia!]

I agree with Ally as well.

How come I have read so many posts with parents who don't give panadol but are happy to pop a panadol for themselves because they can't take the pain:confused: WTF!!

I am opposite I would rather deal with the pain than watch my child suffer. Sorry but to me that is just wrong..

As for antibiotics our Gp's don't like handing prescriptions out for antibiotics unless there is a need. When we all get a cold DS gets a chest infection that he can never fight, he ends up on antibiotics and my other 2 rarely get antibiotics. Recently DS went through 3 courses of antibiotics and his chest still did not clear he was taken off the antibiotics and was sent for more testing. So there is no way we could overuse them.

The reason i am happy to pop panadol whenever im in pain and not my kids?

Well im quite happy to trash my body but im not going to trash my kids because they have a little temp.

If i believed he was in pain then i would be happy to try to relieve it before giving him medication, last resort meds.

Me? It doesn't bother me to pump my body of meds, but it does bother me pumping it into my kid, unless really needed too

[WorkingClassMum]

How come I have read so many posts with parents who don't give panadol but are happy to pop a panadol for themselves because they can't take the pain:confused: WTF!!

.

Again - it's horses for courses;)

I have a permanent back injury - If I don't take painkiller at a certain pain level - I cannot function for my kids - I cannot get out of bed or walk.

I don't take it at the slightest niggle, but must take something at a recognised time.

I also suffer migrains. I will take a neurofen at the first warning sign along with a large glass of water and a very very strong coffee or a piece of dark chocolate - it's either that or head straight to hospital and I am bed ridden for a couple of days and sh!tty for a week.

So - in order to care for my family - I POP pills

BTW - yes I have had all the investigations for both conditions, XRays, MRI, Cat Scan and brain scans etc.

I have a comfortable management level that enables me to function at my best for my family's sake

I don't think that we can judge anyone harshly for choices they make for themselves without knowing where people are at IYKWIM. Each person here makes a decison based on their understandings, beliefs and personal perogatives.

I also think that we all (even me:o) occassionally make broad sweeping statements without ever truely appreciating other peoples circumstances.

I also believe that broad sweeping statements are often made out of ignorance and may offend some very sensitive and special people.

[Jaileth]

I do think that as a society we are overmedicated.

I know that when ds was teething (six teeth came through at once, 4 molars and the 2 top eye teeth) he would say 'hurts' and I would give him nurofen (he wouldn't take panadol) - but he continued saying 'hurts' because he liked the taste. I ended up giving him water with a few drops of lemon juice in the plunger that comes with the nurofen to get him 'off' it.

I personally try not to take any pain killers. If I say I need one now, my dh calls the drs up cause he knows how bad it must be. I have watched my dad for the last 15 years take two (or more) panadol a night 'just to sleep' - so I am very aware of over medicating.

But for people who need medication to survive or even to have quailty of life, it's a very different kettle of fish.

Every parent has their own way of dealing with things, and at 3am when you haven't slept for 40hours and you're dealing with a screaming child who can't tell you what's wrong... well, we're all going to deal with it differently.

[tootiredtosleep]

I don't think, as a family we are too drug happy. DD has panadol or nurofen when she has a temp/really unsettled, which is usually in the night time and it does help her sleep.
That's probably once every 3-4 months. I guess if I found that i thought she "needed" it say EVERY week then I would see my GP about it and follow her advice.
All GP's I have seen have been anti-drugs, prefering to let colds/coughs run its course and saying that I should return at anytime if I think she is still unwell.

The time that DD had croup - listening to her trying to breathe was terrible and I welcomed antibiotics..