March 08 Bubba's Chat [Archive] - Bub Hub Pregnancy & Parenting Forum

GirlGerms

27-03-2008, 07:35

Glad to hear all the bubs are thriving well. We are off to the GP this afternoon to see how little Anna is progressing.

You all talk about community health centres and nurses - what is the difference between these and GP's?

Breastfeeding is proving hard for me. I think I'm soft. Anna was doing well since I had seen the lactation consultant (the day I got home), but on Saturday I had a midwife visit and she told me I wasn't feeding her enough - that she needs to be fed every 2 - 3 hours (otherwise she's not getting enough and I will dry up). So we started waking her for feeds. This proved to be a mistake in that Anna is incredibly difficult to wake and even so, trying to get her to feed when she is clearly not hungry is just a nightmare. She latches on, sucks one or two times, then just plays with my (poor, sore) nipples. Now we've gone back to 4 hourly (which is what she generally demands). Turns out this is what DP's mum and my mum both did with us when we were babies...

Anyway, I'm so confused. My nipples are now sore AGAIN.. but recovering.

Is it quite normal to have sore nipples after 9 days?

Hope you are all well. :wave:

Take care.

GG

ikis84

27-03-2008, 07:47

If she isn't attaching right and you have some grazing/cracking then that's why it's still hurting. Stuff the advice of waking her for a feed, unless she is a sickly baby that is too sleepy to feed. Just feed whenever she wants it (but i wouldn't go +4 hrs during the day). She will likely have a growth spurt at 3 weeks and feed more often... it changes just as you think you have them sorted :) Nipple healing vibes to you. My nipples were sore for the first 2 weeks with my first... then one day, I was getting ready to grit my teeth through the initial pain, and there was none! It will all come together soon enough :hugs:

hayleylea

27-03-2008, 09:02

hey guys

Shelly slept well last night went to bed at 7 and woke at 11, woke at 2.30 and slept through till 6.30 and is still in bed now! She feeds a bit more during the day though every 2-3 hours

Speaking of which she has jsut woken up better head off!!

sarbear31

27-03-2008, 10:17

Hi girls.
WE have just got home from inlaws house. Spent a few days there. The kids had a ball on the farm. We hardly saw them as they were off playing in the paddocks the whole time.
Cameron is going well still. He is feeding every 3 hours sometimes 4 at night and our attachment problem on the right side is getting better. I found I had a crack on that nipple so no wonder it was sore. I have been putting ice on the nipple before a feed for pain relief so I have managed to keep feeding him on that side. Just being extra careful with attachment and the crack is improving.
He had a bit of a sore belly last night I think. He was grunting and pulling his legs up a lot.
What foods should I be avoiding that could give him wind?
Hope everyone else is going well and enjoying this very special time in our lives. I know I am just so in Love already. Its so nice!

hayleylea

27-03-2008, 10:59

sarbear - glad everything is going well with you and your family. As for foods to avoid im not really sure - i know onion use to play up with DS so im avoiding it this time around!

Anyway DS is with DF in town today so i better make the most of my time while Shelley is asleep..

2SPUNKRATZ

27-03-2008, 11:12

What foods should I be avoiding that could give him wind?

unfortunately its different with ALL babies. so it just depends on what your little one can handle. if you eat onion, then he gets an upset tum, then dont eat onion. you jus thave to test stuff out.

3Divas&me

27-03-2008, 14:03

Girl Germs- with dd2 last year my nipples were sore for 3 weeks, but with Phoebe they stopped hurting after about a week- not even leaking have not used breast pads for the last 3 days now- needed them for 3 months with dd2- weird really!

My bubba girl is 2 weeks old today- OMG, just so sad, the time goes too quick, but 2 weeks of pg feels like a lifetime!

sarbear31

27-03-2008, 17:25

Cameron had a visit from the health nurse today. He has put on 240grams in 7 days which she said is really good. Feeling a bit tired today though. He was grunting in his sleep a lot last night and was a bit uncomfrotable so no one got a lot of sleep.
Hope everyone gets a good night sleep tonight.

kyannas*mum*

27-03-2008, 18:22

hi guys sorry i have been gone,

got hit with the flu as well as dh so was quite easter here, have had rellies up from vic last week so spending lots of time with them

so good to hear everyone is doing well and all bubs are thriving,

sheldon is going great 2 weeks today oh my lil man will grow up so quick, feeding was going good but last 3 to 4 days he has not been settling after feeds and feeding constantly all day i think hes not attaching properly and not geeting the good milk so going to see someone next week, he has thrush so my nipples are bit sore but no cuts or anything just put heaps of lanisoh on its great,

went to chn today to get weighed and checking and he is food deprived he had only put on 40 grams and still 180 grams under birth weight not happy little chap so he isnt getting the good fatty stuff:hair:

otherwise all good dd still being great with him and we are very much in love with our little man

ps i miss my belly already lol never thought i would say that not 2 weeks later lol

3Divas&me

27-03-2008, 20:45

Kyannasmum- Hope you get the breast feeding thing sorted out and Sheldon starts to gain some weight:fingerscrossed:. As for the belly- nope not missing mine, so glad to be rid of it actually!!:laughing:

ikis84

27-03-2008, 21:18

Oh, a totally understand what you mean about the grunting sarbear... that is Elora alllll night. Grunt, snort, fart, grunt, nuzzle, grunt.... gruuuuunnnnnt.... huge fart. It just goes on and on! During the day she is an angel though!

Renee, just watch out with the lasinoh and the thrush - it creates a nice moist environment for thrush to thrive in. Are you using nilstat drops or anything for Sheldon's thrush? If so, I'd use it on your nipples too, as nipple thrush (which can turn into intra-ductal thrush if left untreated) can be very painful. Just some hind milk on them after a feed is really good for sore nipples.

kyannas*mum*

27-03-2008, 22:34

thanks ikis didnt even think of the lanisoh being more harm than good while he has the thrush, yeah i have some drops so ill just use that instead thanks

just a question on milk i feed him he was on for 10 mins and checked my milk and it was still watery kinda colour, shouldnt it look like real milk by then? does that sound like hes not attaching properly and getting proper milk i hand expressed for few mins and it finally turned milky colour:confused:

3Divas&me

28-03-2008, 07:08

Just letting you guys know (incase you miss it) Bubbalicious had her baby last night!! Go to the announcements thread to find out what!:detective:

Sorry to leave you all in suspense- ha ha:laughing:

3Divas&me

28-03-2008, 07:09

I always wanted to use that detective icon... what a great opportunity hey? :detective::detective::detective:

kyannas*mum*

28-03-2008, 09:11

has anyone got a message yet from dejeane? wonder what she called her little miss and how she is going?

PunkyDiva

28-03-2008, 09:28

If bubs poos are bright yellow then they are getting hind milk, if they have green in them then bub is just getting the thinner milk which just contains sugars and not all the nutritious stuff.

Ring a breastfeeding counsellor if you think chn isn't really helping and maybe go along to a nursing mothers group where you can also get assistance and support.

http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/

If breasts/nipples are extremely painful, give that side a rest for up to 12 hours, just expressing enough to keep it comfortable.
As you said that attachment really is sooo impportant and you need to get as much boob in their mouth as possible so nipple is positioned at back of their throat.

This is my 6th bub and I'm still having attachment issues and above was told me by midwife so hope it's of some help for you too.

morgan posted a recipe for lactation cookies a few weeks back that may help too.

rubyrags

28-03-2008, 11:15

:cloud9: Hi guys, I cant believe Emma is one week and 1 day old! She is so beautiful. Its funny because quite a few mums I know said to me that they didnt bond with their baby for months and sort of didnt like them so I was completely prepared for that. I wasnt prepared to feel an immense love from when I first heard her cry and then when I saw her it just increased even more... I love her to bits..

It is terrible when she crys and I dont know what to do to fix it, I wonder if that feeling ever goes?

PD thanks for the information on the poo color as I was wondering the same thing as I dont really know when the breast is empty but at least I can check if she is getting hind milk by her poo.

Does anyone do anything special to get rid of sticky gunky eyes? If you use breast milk do you wipe the eyes out with it?

Thanks and HUGE :hugs: to all

GirlGerms

28-03-2008, 11:41

What's this sticky eye business everyone is talking about? Maybe I'm a bit dopey...??

MY NIPPLES!!!!!!!!!! I think they're about to explode!!! Have the LC coming back this afternoon. At least Anna is getting what she needs though - lots of poos and wees and as at yesterday (9 days old) she had put on 220g on top of her birth weight (had lost roughly 200g on day 4), so she's definitely getting enough.

Gee she sleeps a lot and doesn't cry much at all... we are so lucky because I do get stressed when she does cry, so I feel for those with babies who cry a lot - it must be heart breaking.

How are you all feeling post birth? If you had asked me last week, I'd have told you it would be months and months before I'd walk my dogs, let alone ride my bike again, but I've already gone for a couple of 20 minute walks and going for a slightly longer one this afternoon. I'm thinking I'll get back on my bike next week, but I'll probably just do a quick 20km to get me up and going.

Does anyone else have a saggy little gut remaining? I can't quite get over it - it looks revolting when combined with the lower gut stretch marks I acquired from week 36 (imagine going 36 weeks with none, then WHAMMO!).

Also, have any of you ladies got much in the way of rectus diastasis or whatever it's called? Mine separated 6cm which makes my back a bit tired in the evenings. Any tips on fixing it? I do have some exercises to do but it doesn't feel to me like they do much at all...

Take care all!

GG

PunkyDiva

28-03-2008, 22:09

GG...take it easy with the excercise, you may feel ok but your body needs time to heal, especially those abdo muscles. Yes, the excercises they give you do work.

Squirt eye with some milk and wipe gently with cotton pad/soft cloth from inner to outer, only once, then discard pad. Some just squirt and leave but I like to remove. :fingerscrossed:we have not had any of this thus far.
xxx

Ruby_Slippers

29-03-2008, 11:46

hi girls .. well I finally found you all. This month has gone so quickly and Matilda is nearly 5 weeks old.

started mothers group yesterday and I would really recommend it as it just makes you feel better knowing that there are others going through the same thing. You bond quickly and make friends as you have so much in common (little munchkins).

for those missing their bellies - don't think you are strange. I still walk past windows, mirrors and don't recognise myself. I loved being pregnant and will get cracking as soon as we can - I wonder why I waited so long it is so great. Pretty happy with after prego body - thought it would be so much worse. I was one of the lucky ones with no stretch marks so only little jelly pot, which isn't that bad.

Dont' get me wrong I think it is also a nightmare (feeding,burping, crying, settling) some nights Ionly get 3-4 hours sleep and get so frustrated with little munchkin as she is impossible to put down. Actually I bought a dummy yesterday as I was at my wits end. Only going to use it to put her to sleep - my god it worked and we all got 10hours sleep last night (might be a co-incidence as she was prob buggered from the night before) - Time will tell :fingerscrossed:

thinking of you all, take one day at a time :bee:

~Kristin~

29-03-2008, 18:34

Hiya all! Isabella's Mummy here - had a name change now that Isla has joined the family!

In response to variious Q's & comments over the past few days -- too many to post individually...

BF - All going great, def easier 2nd time around with only 4mths break, and even though Isla is attaching well there is still a small amount of discomfort, afterall, these little munchkins of ours are almighty hoovers, and the ole nip's aren't used to being used this much!!! lol Boobies are in full force yet again, we used to joke that I could feed a small village when I was BFing Bella, and even though I only stopped when she was 13mths they never really ceased production so I'm back in full jersy cow mode!

Isla has a bit of conjunctivitis at the moment, I would say its courtesy of big sis Bella and daycare.... But she is still a trouper of a kid, sleeping and eating and rarely a peep in between! :cloud9:

Bellies - Yup, miss my bump, and hate the thought that it will be years now until I have another one, as we decided to wait till Bella was about to start school before trying for #3. As I still have a jelly belly (gee thanks emerg caesar.... :banghead:) I often find myself absently mindedly rubbing my belly, I must look like a tool to anyone who see's me......

on that note I have to dash, Isla has just started making noises which is about as worked up as she gets, so its time for a feed, and my boobs are telling me via let-down that I need to go attend to her!

Take care all! xxoo

3Divas&me

30-03-2008, 09:05

Hiya all, how are we all going today?

I am starting to feel tired now, 17 days into this new little life. Was ok to begin with, but I guess it all catches up eventually, and after my trip to Sydney the other day to buy a new car, I have not quite recovered- it wiped me out completely.

Pd- Did not know that about the poo colours- very interesting. Phoebes are yellow most of the time but last week I did freak out when they appeared to be green for a day or so- Qu answered. I thought it might have been due to something I had eaten.

GG- My back has been playing up a bit too- keep pulling it out all the time- like the other day was putting Phoebe in the car and it all ceased up on me- such pain- the I had to get in the car and drive 3 hours home from Sydney with a sore back!

Hope everyone are well and loving these precious moments with their bubs. I look at my 3 girls all the time and think how blessed I am to have them.

ikis84

30-03-2008, 11:50

hayleylea

30-03-2008, 14:21

hey everyone...

livies mum - im with you i think its all starting to catch up with me and im feeling a bit weary too. Not too bad though. Shelley is good of a night still only waking 2 times and im only up for 20 minutes each time and she goes straight back to bed. But it still takes it toll...especially not being able to take a nap during the day because we have other kids!

GG - hows the nipples going??

PD - i didnt know about the poo colours either - interesting to know so thanks for the info!!

Kristin - hope the conjunctivitis clears up soon.

Moostar - good to hear from you again. Good to hear your having a good time with your mothersgroup - it really can be a godsend. How did the dummy go?

Rubyrags - nope the feeling never goes. You always feel sad when your kids are sad. nothing will ever change that as old as they get i dont think!

Anyway all is going well here. Check out my website for some cute pics i took of my two little kiddies today http://www.babyhomepages.net/hayleyandtrentsbaby/pictures.php so adorable! they love each other!

gotta run.

porridge

30-03-2008, 16:25

hey guys... well I have a very angry little man in my arms at the minute!! so sad, yet so cute!

I've been reading everyone's posts... I start typing out one of my own, but then it just sounds dumb or I leave it unfinished and forget to come back!

I'm so tired! sometimes I just sit down and cry... my house is a mess, which stresses me out and I ran out of washing powder yesterday and there's a new pile of dirty clothes!!

I have sore boobs and nipples - the silver lining to this is that by this time with DS1 things were a lot worse - there was blood and a case of mastitis. So if nothing else, thinking this isn't so bad is getting me through...

will go and change angry man's nappy... how many is that today???!!

hope you are all well

hayleylea

30-03-2008, 16:28

Porridge - havent got much time but just wanted to give you one of these :hugs: Dont worry about the house - you have a new baby - the house work will always be there. I know its easier said then done! oh and your allowed to have a cry - we are very emotional at the moment...

Take it easy.

Gotta go Shelley is awake.

ikis84

30-03-2008, 16:44

Some more :hugs: for you, Porridge.

Hayley, you are so lucky only waking twice a night! Elora is feeding every two hours and being unsettled in between... gah! I don't know how I am going to cope when DH goes back to work (he has one week left). She basically sleeps all day though, as she still has day and night mixed up... I don't really expect any change until about the 6 week mark, if I am lucky!

hayleylea

30-03-2008, 19:39

Ikis - i am very lucky Shelley is so good of a night. She is actually really good during the day too - she is much easier then DS was. Of a night we are only up for 20 minutes to half an hour - she feeds, nappy change and i pop her into bed and she self settles herself - Im hoping she keeps self settling because i cuddled DS to sleep till he was one! as nice as it was i simply dont have the time to do that with the 2 kids because once Shelley is down its my time with DS.

Shelleys Milk rash is clearing up which im very happy about it because she had it quite bad there for awhile.

Anyway the kids are in bed and believe it or not we have just lit our wood fire because its cold here tonight! i want it warm here in the lounge room for when i have to get up and feed Shelley.

HOpe all your bubs sleep well tonight

InSaneOne

30-03-2008, 20:35

well we are doing just great here. daniel feeds well and sleeps excellently. we have a few feeds during the night but i just bring him in our bed and feed him there. then i can doze off again and i usually wake up when he drops off. he is feeding about 3 hourly but i have a period between 5pm and 10 pm where he is constantly attached to my boobs.

beth is being a handful at the moment. she is 2.5 and was a complete dream until 3 days ago. she loves daniel and keeps trying to tickle him or kiss him and always goes to check on him when he is in his bassinette. but getting her to answer us when we talk to her and to get her to listen to what we are telling her is almost impossible. those of you with other children is this just a stage that a normal 2 year old goes through or is she just wanting more attention? i try and give her heaps but at the moment dh is going to send me crazy as he won't stop yelling at her and they are both making me :hair:

gotta go daniel is finally asleep (early for a change) and i need to have a shower before i fall asleep.

hayleylea

31-03-2008, 07:57

Billieandbeth - Good to hear Daniel is going good for you. I have a period with Shelley from 6-8 where she is attached to my boob too! She slept a 5 hour stretch last night which was good! As for your 2.5 year old. I hear ya!! Cooper is 2.5 and he got really naughty just before Shelley come along and i had no idea how i would cope! He stayed naughty for about 2 weeks after she was born - mind you he has been excellent with Shelley for the word go - he was just naughty and back chatting me and DF. It was shortlived though and he is back to being good - with the occasional naughty period. It can be very frustrating at times! I do take into account he has had some big changes...with shelley and also us moving house. Some days can be very trying - so you have my sympathy! I do think its fairly normal though for a 2 year old to go through this stage. I find if i yell at cooper it makes him worse so he has "time out" and then i explain what he has done wrong.

Well they are both asleep at the moment so i might grab some breakkie!

sarbear31

31-03-2008, 09:22

hi girls
pleased i am not the only one whose bubs have a feeding frenzie in the evenings. Last night Cameron did not settle till 12.00. He then fed again at 2.30 and5.30. we then had to be out the door at 7.30 to drop my DS to bus stop for scout camp. So I have had a grand total of 4 hours sleep! I think i will be having a nap today.
:hugs: for everyone sorry no personals. Typing with one hand while feeding baby!

ikis84

31-03-2008, 10:07

Just a question: Has anyone had a vaginal prolapse? I think that's what I have... it's not noice at all :( Bloody babies.

porridge

31-03-2008, 10:57

ikis - I haven't had it ( I don't think) what happens?

took both boys to the park this morning - all by myself!! Was going really well until DS1 fell and smacked his head on the path... oh how he screamed!! He's now sporting a massive egg on his head and scraped toes (his shoe came off...) it was very hard to cuddle him while DS2 was in his sling, but we managed! I think he's ok...

Archie was really fussy feeding last night - it took (no joke!) 10 - 15 mins to get him attached (at midnight and then again at 5...!) he kept trying to put his fists in his mouth! ARGH!!

My stress levels have been steadily going up - I need to go for a RUN to release it all!!

OR have a cheese night with girlfriends... tonight! mmmm, cheese :D

DS1 turns 2 tomorrow... :party:

hayleylea

31-03-2008, 11:02

Ikis - im going to sound like a bit of a ditz - but what is a vaginal prolapse? doesnt sound nice!

Porridge - your poor little man falling over! you did well going to the park by yourself! thats something ive been meaning to do but havent done yet. DS and i have had a great morning while Shelleys has been asleep. We got out our craft box and made funny faces on balloons he is having a ball! Happy birthday for your little man tommorrow too!! It goes so quick doesnt it!! I remember my DS having a big egg on his head for his first birthday -made for some interesting photos lol.

Anyway better go clean up mr messy after his lunch lol

sarbear31

31-03-2008, 12:54

Ikis - I havent had it but I used to be a Vet Nurse and we used to get in Alpacas with it. Very nasty! Have you seen a doctor?

Hayleylea - Sounds like you had some lovely special time with your son this morning. My poor son has been baby sat by the nintendo wii all morning as I just had to have a nap while Cameron slept.

Porridge - Well done on your outing to the park. Sounds like you did a great job. Happy 2nd birthday to your son for tomorrow!happybirthday

ikis84

31-03-2008, 13:53

I have an appointment with my GP on Wednesday. It's basically when part of the vaginal wall.. ahh... caves in. 'Tis lovely! What I get for having big babies. The doctor will refer me to a physio that specialises in pelvic floor issues, and hopefully that will help. This is way TMI, but at the moment I can barely fit a finger in my vagina, as I think it is a prolapse of the front and back vaginal walls - so the rectum and bladder. It feels horrible - like the insides are coming out... I can even see it when I look in the mirror.

Told you it was TMI :laughing:

hayleylea

31-03-2008, 14:05

Ikis - ouch!! doesnt sound like fun..! you poor thing!!!

3Divas&me

31-03-2008, 14:14

Ikis- I know exactly what you mean- I have this same problem, but only when I have my period- but Dr and Gyno would not say it was a vaginal prolapse. Happened to me after dd1 but not til 3 years later- I was doing my internship at a school for kids with special needs and was doing some pretty heavy lifting of teenage kids in wheelchairs- was told that probably helped shift it all out of place. I only found it when I had my period and could no longer get a tampon in- I totally freaked out. Anyways was told to finish having my children before they did anything as they need to stich things back in place and having a baby just puts it back to where it is now- so really want to do something about it as I am not having anymore babies and I dont want to spend the rest of my life only being able to use pads during a period and not have the option of a tampon.

Talking periods- sorry if TMI- but with dd1 and dd2 I only bled for a week after giving birth and that was it- no more, but here I am 18 days after Phoebe and still bleeding- is this normal? It was fading and a brown colour- but last 24 hours has been bright red again??:confused: Not sure what to make of it.

Had my first shopping trip into town today with the 2 girls and the double pram on my own- did not go too badly. Needed to go and get dd1 and 2 some winter PJ's as the temperature at night has dropped and gets quite cold- so summer pj's have been put away.

Haylealea- Cute pics of your kids, Shelley is so adorable- I love all that hair.

Better scoot- dd1 just got home from school.

hayleylea

31-03-2008, 14:20

livies mum - thanks for the comment on my kiddies. Yep Shelley has heaps of hair lol - i was bald as - Cooper had dark hair like hers (But not quite as much) when he was born but he went blonde so it will be interesting to see what colour her hair turns out. I think it will stay dark though. Coopers eyes were always REALLY blue from birth too but i think Shelley will get brown eyes - they are really dark - who knows! lol.

glad your trip to town went well. Ive gone a few times with the two kids but its much easier leaving Cooper at my sisters to play lol.

Anyway Ive been cooking dinner early in the day because by the time dinner time comes along its too hectic here to get it done. So i cook it then reheat it - its been working really well as DF doesnt get home till 6.30 when he is on night shift and DS has to eat before that as he goes to bed at 7. So im off to do that before Shelley wakes up.

talk soon.

porridge

31-03-2008, 15:04

liviesmum - I'm the same regarding pp loss... it goes to browny red and not much and then suddenly it's red red again and more... then it fades again :confused: who knows.

thanks for the birthday wishes for Griff!

ikis - hmm, that doesn't sound real fun! pelvic floor exercises!! *squeeze*

GirlGerms

31-03-2008, 15:11

Just a question: Has anyone had a vaginal prolapse? I think that's what I have... it's not noice at all :( Bloody babies.

That doesn't sound very nice at all, Ikis :-(

All I've had is a dragging sensation in my pelvic region for the first week and a half. Seems to have been fixed since I started walking again - not sure if that's why?

I've had a very emotional 24 hours. Had to have the LC out again on Thursday because my stupid left nipple wasn't getting any better. I fed from the boob whilst the LC was here even though it was excruciating and I wanted to jump out of the window. Later that day, the crack - which had just started to heal - reopened when I fed Anna on it again. I rang the LC and she said to express from it until the next morning, which I did. No luck. Now it's festy and infected and totally gross - much like something out of an Alien movie. Feeding only from the right boob was really taking it out on me and I wasn't really able to keep up with supply... combine this with the fact that pumping from the left boob was excruciating. Anyway, I've had to make what feels like the toughest decision I've ever had to make before.

I honestly feel like a failure. First I wanted a natural birth. Stuff that. Induction, tear, episiotomy, vacuum extraction, epidural, the lot... then I thought I'd give breast feeding a crack and it looks like I've failed at that one too.

Having said all that, I'm glad to hear that it seems to be going well for you girls.

I'll try again with the next baby (if I'm game enough to have another!).

Cheers,
GG

P.S. The above is in no way intended to offend/hurt those who forumla feed their babies. I'm purely airing my personal feelings about my situation - I never thought making the decision would be this hard...

PunkyDiva

31-03-2008, 15:43

GG...did you try a latex/rubber nipple shield, available from chemist ? Like a bottle teat but fits over nipple to protect it. They used to suggest paw paw ointment for healing nipples too.

porridge...:hugs:and glad to hear you are getting out and about, housework will always keep.

ikis...yep, i have double whammy prolapse from too many huge bubbas. Mine isn't visible from outside but when I need to poop get a real heaviness. Hasn't affected tampon use or sex though, although when I need to pee I can't hold it very long but not incontinent quite yet.

Pelvic floors are about all you can do and later after baby making days are over, surgery to repair. Will it make us virginal again ??:p

Well, except for a cracked sore nipple and being sprayed with pee or poo every time I change a nappy (hasn't happened to DH even once, he says D is marking his territory :laughing:)we have it pretty good. Although like others when DH goes back to work, it will all change but not the 4 hour sleeps at night I hope. Makes such a difference when you're not up and down.
My milk has only just come in due to D being fed via IV in hospital and not wanting to suck, gotta love those humungus boobies, sorry I'm normally small breasted so it's nice to fill out up there for a change.
Weighed myself today and not too unhappy, only couple of kg's over my original weight, which was overweight so about 15kg to lose. Will wait a month before starting as still bleeding and need time to heal/bpones & ligaments to go back to normal. My blood loss has gone quite bright red again and I am a bit concerned as my placenta was in bits, membranes in tatters apparently??, massive bleed after birth requiring syntosin (no way did I feel any urge to bite into that kidney dish of placenta either) and I had a massive clot few days after birth, may go see my GP/OB this week if doesn't start to dull down in colour.
I'm sure he's heard some of our story on the birthing grapevine by now and eager to hear from us anyways.

Anyone needing more/cheap nappy buckets you can get the old pickle buckets from your local macca's and they have great fitting lids. Ours gave them to us free but years ago I payed 50 cents for them.

I haven't ventured out yet but we have a winter clothing shopping trip planned for Thurs as kids have outgrown everything, poor credit card. Be first trial run of sling as well as pretty sure D won't settle in a pram yet.
xxxPD

porridge

31-03-2008, 16:56

GG - :hugs: you are in NO way a failure! It is a very hard decision to make - there is a lot of pressure on mums - if it's not having a natural birth, it's breastfeeding... both of which are great if they work but if they don't, it takes its toll on you physically and emotionally. I hope your nipples heal quickly - sun and air are GREAT!

hayleylea

31-03-2008, 17:28

GG - :hugs: sorry to hear about your breastfeeding issues! do whatever you feel is right. Dont be too hard on yourself if you cant continue breastfeeding - but if you can keep it up good on you. I gave up breastfeeding with my DS when he was 3 months old as i got kidney stones and couldnt walk or do anything and was in and out of hospital for a week on morphine. It was a huge decision for me to let it go - but in the end it was the right decision for me... It was tough though to say the least so make sure whatever decision you make that you are totally OK with it.

ikis84

31-03-2008, 18:47

GG, it also doesn't mean you have to totally give up - I know a woman from bubhub (Beany, you could PM her), who had to give her son formula for several weeks as her nipples were nearly hanging off - she is still breastfeeding her son now, at nearly 2 years old. It must be very hard for you, and it's obvious that you want to continue breastfeeding. Perhaps leave it for today, and try to at least attach her once tomorrow, and hand express a little, keeping in contact with your LC (or get a better one if she is no good). You can overcome this - it won't be easy but with support you can... it will get better and you will get to the other side of it and you can breastfeed your daughter if that's what you wish.

Just take it one feed at a time :hugs:

Ruby_Slippers

31-03-2008, 20:10

Has anyone used Infancol for baby wind yet? (the new "gripe juice" aparently), Matilda is sooooo difficult to settle some days, Im putting it down to wind pain. Other days she is great sleeping for 4 hour stretches, then the next day doesn't sleep for longer than 30mins at a time - very inconsistent.

Wow - that is the first time I have heard about a prolapsed vagina. Its seems to be quite common judging from the feedback. It is amazing the things they DON'T tell you about childbirth - I read a hell of a lot of info prior to birth and not once came across this one. Im stuggling to "keep it in" when sneezing or really busting to go to loo but other than that ok. Pelvic floors are a #@1* to remember to do every day, although you can really see the importance in doing.

I hope our baby list for March gets updated - it would be great to see all babies, due date, birth date together.

GG - hang in there, we all do what we have to, to survive. I was pretty anti dummy up until 4 days ago when I got a total of 3 hours sleep. I was in tears as I had had her in my arms from 5pm - 2am in the morning, I decided I needed to save my sanity (if not only for a litttle while). As mentioned you could always come back to BF and give it another crack (pun not intended!) later on.

Happy :sleeping: vibes to all and to all a GOOD night x

hayleylea

01-04-2008, 06:52

Morning guys - how did we all sleep last night? Shelley was a real dream last night and only woke once!!!! :smiliedance: She went to bed at 9.30 woke at 2.30 and had a feed and went back down till 6.45 and is now back in bed. I have been blessed with a good baby this time around - but i know that each day can be different.

Moostar - your doing well - it can get frustrating when your bub doesnt settle (know from experience with DS) As for the wind drops - I havent tried them myself but I have heard some good things about them. Worth a try anyway! i think its all natural isnt it? so it definatley couldnt do any harm. Its so hard to figure out whats wrong with little babies when they are unsettled. I remember thinking with DS geez i wish you could talk lol. Now he is talking :ecomcity: sometimes i wish he would stop!! LOL. As for the dummy - i was totally against dummies too till DS was around 3 weeks and it definatley saved my sanity and got me heaps of sleep. He wasnt a bad baby - he just wanted to suck all the time off me (not feeding using me as a dummy) so i got the dummy. He only had it for sleeping and if we were shopping and he got distressed - he only had it for 5 months and then gave it up. I really think you have to do what you have to do....lets face it if it helps you settle them and helps you both get some sleep then its all good!

its so cold here this morning!!! we had the heater on last night as well. The Chillier months are definatley here.

I dont know if i told you guys or not but we actually moved into our new house (We have been renovating for awhile) the day i come out of hospital with Shelley!!:eek: Its 25 minutes out of town and i dont know anyone out here, but yesterday i walked to the corner shop and a lady there told me about a playgroup that is only up the road of a friday. She said there are heaps of kids DS' age and some little babies too - so im really excited about that. Im really shy but im going to go - it will be excellent for all of us. I go to a playgroup in town of a wedensday at the moment and its a really good morning out.

Anyway im rambling better go get us breakkie.

talk soon.

3Divas&me

01-04-2008, 08:59

Hi all how you going?- Me? well cr@ppy night last night- but more due to dd2 than Phoebe. She has adjusted to the new bub really well during the day, but ever since we got home with Phoebe, bedtime at night has become hell. She screams and screams in her cot til we come in and get her- and I mean scream like she is being murdered! Suggestions welcomed- dont know what to do anymore!:hair:

GG- :hugs: in regards to b/f. Making the decision to stop is hard but do what is right for you and for bub. When I had dd1 I found b/f so difficult esp with a reflux baby- efforts made to get her to feed felt like they were all in vein when she would bring it all up again. I was a walking zombie- completely depressed (bad baby blues), on the verge of tears all the time- if I was not already crying- was so scared I had PND. I made the decision to formula feed and in 24 hours my life turned around- the baby blues deminished and I began to really enjoy my baby. I made a decisions that when I had more children, if b/f did not work for me I would not let it go on as long as I did with dd1 as I felt I missed some precious time with her in her first few weeks (to tell you the truth- thinking back was all a bit hazy)- but have been fortunate enough to have been able to b/f DD2 and now little Phoebe. I felt that there was so much pressure on me to b/f and I did not want to let anyone down or look like a failure- but at the end of the day the only person you need to satisfy is your baby!- I dont mean to offend anyone, just had a similar experience and this is how I found it within myself to make that breast/formula decision. Take it easy GG, I am sure you will make the right decison for you and Anna.

Better head off and put this little girl down for a nap so I can get in the shower- dd2 is roaming the house, so I better stick her in with me!

sarbear31

01-04-2008, 10:30

Hi Girls.
Well what a great nights sleep we had last night. Cameron settled well by 10pm and woke for only 2 feeds during the night and didnt wake up till 8.30am. My boobs were bursting! Much better than the 4 hours sleep I had the night before. I feel like a new woman! Even went for a walk to the supermarket this morning!.

Livies Mum - I dont have any advice to give you re your older daughters sleeping but I hope it gets better soon :hugs:

Hayleylea - wow what an amazing night you had you lucky thing you. Good luck wtih the new playgroup it sounds like a great idea.

Moostar - I havent used infacol but yesterday I started using one made by Brauer called colic relief. I dont think Cameron has colic but he has been hard to settle in the evenings and seems uncomfortable always grunting and farting and pulling his legs up. I started using it in the afternoon and he had a much better night. Might have been a coincidence but if it makes him more comfortable then I am all for it. It is all natural too and the chemist said it is fine to use at his age. Might be worth a try for Matilda.

PD - thanks for the tip re the maccas pickle buckets. I will go get a couple later today. Might have to get a cheeseburger while I am there too, Yummy.

GG - I hope you are going well with what ever you decided to do. As the other have said you have to do what is right for you and your baby. Sounds like you have given it a good go with getting the Lc etc. I regretted not doing that before giving up breast feeding my 2nd DS. :hugs:for you.

Better go. My Mum is coming to stay today. She has got 2 weeks off work so she is looking forward to having lots of cuddle time.

GirlGerms

01-04-2008, 11:06

Hi girls,

Thank you all so much for your support and encouragement. I've considered keeping up the breast feeding by just using the right breast for the time being, but given how unsettled she was on Sunday (because there wasn't enough, she kept chewing it and made a little crack - nothing bad, but enough to scare me) I think I'll stick with the bottles.

I still feel guilty about it, but she's a lot more settled now that she's on formula. That said, yesterday was a tough day - she projectile vomited every feed. Have now switched from S26 gold to Karicare HA which is apparently easier to digest. So far so good.

I love Anna to bits and I think she's actually one of those 'easy' to care for babies, but seriously, nothing could have prepared me for parenthood. I find it really challenging and I find myself saying things like "I should never have gotten pregnant in the first place", then regretting it and crying for an hour... I think I'm going nuts.

How are you guys all coping emotionally?

GG :ecomcity:

3Divas&me

01-04-2008, 13:05

GG- It is tough with your first- big adjustments are made to your life and it can take its toll emotionally- I think it was not til I got to the 3 month mark with dd1 that I had embraced and accepted my new life as a mum. With dd2 and 3 I so badly wanted a baby and had 3 years of heartache not being able to have one just made me feel so blessed so I never experienced the emotional rollercoaster. :hugs: to you, it does get easier, but please see someone if it all gets too much- or jump on here and talk to us- we will provide you with the support you need to get through this initial phase of motherhood!

hayleylea

01-04-2008, 13:26

sarbear - glad you had a good night with Cameron. Its great when you get a good ngiht sleep with a new bub!

livies mum - no advice on getting pheobe to sleep of a night. How old is she? Has she got a special teddy or something that she takes to bed. Was she always like this or just with the new bub?

GG - Well if you and bubs are happy with the formula then thats all that matters - try not to feel guilty your doing what is best for you guys and thats what matters.

As for emotions - i was like you with my first - it really is a big change..and you say somethings that you dont mean. But if you feel this way all the time and you find yourself feeling down etc make sure you talk to someone about it - us, your hubby, mum etc. CAuse it really does help - dont bottle it in because you will go insane!

Anyway my little man is just waking up so i better head off...Shelley will be awake soon too.

ikis84

01-04-2008, 13:36

:hugs: GG. It really is an emotional roller-coaster ride!

Emotionally, I have been fine this time around - I am attributing it to the different birth though (my first sucked ****)- I really got to make the most of the happy hormones, without having to deal with the trauma of the birth. That, and the homoeopathic tincture I am taking, along with the placenta pills that my midwife made up for me. Yes, placenta pills from my placenta - hope you guys still talk to me :laughing:. Consuming the placenta is meant to help prevent the baby blues amongst other things.

But hey, DH hasn't started back at work yet - ask me next week and I will be a mess!

Jules16

01-04-2008, 13:40

Hi Ladies

I found you all! Hope everyone is going well with their new bubs! Blake is doing well - feeding and sleeping like a champ! Have suffered awfully with sore nipples but they are gradually getting better now. However I am having a problem with Blake's feeding in that he just doesn't stop. He wants to feed from the moment he wakes until he falls asleep on me. Play time doesn't exist as he just wants the boob. And putting him down awake - that can't happen either as he just wants more boob. I seem to have a good milk supply - just wondering if the flow it too slow or something. Is anyone else having this problem?

tigerlilli

01-04-2008, 21:25

Hey Ladies

Morganj � I am having this exact same problem too!!!

Can anyone offer any advice?

I feel like I am constantly feeding- sometimes it takes 2 hrs to feed and then settle (sometimes I have to offer both breasts a couple of times each), It seems like a never ending cycle of feeding then �trying� to settle. I too wonder if my milk supply is low, or if something else is wrong?
My nipples are cracked and causing me absolute grief. I dread each feed time due to the pain. Should I be giving my nipples time to heal? Or should I persevere?

3Divas&me

02-04-2008, 08:17

Hi all, had a much better night last night. Dh stayed up with Bridget for a while and I put Phoebe down and went to bed aswell- was completely wrecked yesterday. Dh put Bridget down and of course she screamed (did not wake me though!) so he let her scream til she fell asleep- she did not wake til 5:30 this morn and came in with us then. Phoebe did not wake til 3:30am so I got a good block of sleep.:yelclap: Feeling much better this morning.

Morgan and Tigerlilly- Phoebe feeds constantly atm- must be the 3 week growth spurt- I dont even feel like my boobs have a chance to fill up before she is on again, and she is back to the green poos again... PD- is there something in that?? Have been giving her the dummy at times to stop her feeding as she is not hungry and sometimes I have over fed her and she just:barf: spews.

Got dd1 home from school with a sore throat today, hopefully it is not something thats catchy!!

Talk later:wave:

PunkyDiva

02-04-2008, 08:40

liviesmum...the midwife just said if poos were green then bub wasn't getting the hind milk.

morganj...these first few weeks it's not uncommon to just have cycles of feeding and sleeping. We are exactly the same, we feed, he burps, he sleeps, he poos, he awakes to start again.
Just important each boob is entirely emptied before offering the other.

I try to hold off as long as possible on my sore nipple and giving it air time (no bra on) to help it heal. It is painful but I know from the past I will get through it and having been down the fussy, time consuming, expensive bottle & formula route before, it's not for me if I can help it.
I would supplement with a bottle though if I thought my nipples/breasts needed a better/longer rest. Expressing in between feeds can help encourage better milk too.
Is your diet and fluid intake good ?? That can make a huge difference, I carry a water bottle around and have been having red meat and dark green vege every night but my iron was on the low side too.
If really in doubt contact Nursing Mothers, they are fab.

D has put on 320 grams in last week, nothing fragile about my wee man he is a right wee bruiser. :-)

sarbear31

02-04-2008, 09:11

Cant talk for long going shopping soon just had some advice for those with cracked nipples. I had a deep crack in my right one and I called the breast feeding *** (good website too) and she sugested that I ice my nipple before feeding to make it a bit numb so not so sore to feed from. Wroked a treat I also feed from that side only every second feed and just hand expressed to keep up milk supply.
This worked really well for me and crack is nearly gone and Cameron is back to having both sides at each feed. The volenteer who I spoke to was great so give them a call if you need any advice they are all really well trained.

Jules16

02-04-2008, 11:46

3Divas&me

02-04-2008, 12:15

LiviesMum - I guess you could express a little before each feed so that she gets the hind milk. The ABA might have some suggestions otherwise.

I have an electric pump and I cant get anything out of the damn thing and the longer I keep it there the sorer it makes my nipples- had no luck with it last year after having dd2 either.

Just had a friend come over with her 11 m/o twins that she still b/f and she reckons Phoebe is getting enough and probably just going through one of those hungry stages- growth spurt- which is what I thought, just sometimes need some re-assurance from another mummy. And her poos are abck to yellow again anyways. It seems to be different every nappy!

Anyways better get off the computer and do something constructive while both babies are sleeping.

conorexnz

02-04-2008, 12:37

Hi all!!!

Ie just found this link and read it all... great to hear i'm not the only one having issues - i'm a human milk bar, open all hours!!! don't feel too much enjoyment with hannah, some days are good some bad, i have lots of trouble settling her and when i do finally get her to sleep and put her into the bassinette she frequentky wakes within 10 mins!!! :hair:

Have tried self settling, letting her fall asleep on the boob, walking her to sleep, putting her in pram etc!!! It's so frustrating, she's been up since 8.20am - 4hrs, and she was awake from 3am - 6am this morning... sometimes i think she just sucks on my boob for comfort - resorted to buying a dummy (shed a few tears on that one) but she does this gagging imitation when it gets to her mouth and if i do get it in she spits it out and growls at me, same goes for a bottle with expressed milk... don't know what to do!!!

Anyway, had to vent...

At least she's putting on weight, 460gms in 11 days from birth, she didn't really lose any that we know of, am getting her weighed at GP checkup today so will be interesting, def feels heavier and a lot longer again.

my arms getting sore holding LM with one arm so might see how close she is ti giung down take 4...

:geek:

PunkyDiva

02-04-2008, 14:42

Thanks everyone for your advice. I guess my main concern was him feeding to sleep and not learning to go to bed awake. Anyway, maybe it's a bit premature to worry about stuff like that. Nipples feeling a bit better now. Thanks again all.

LiviesMum - I guess you could express a little before each feed so that she gets the hind milk. The ABA might have some suggestions otherwise.

I was thinking of expressing to increase my supply but not sure when is best to do so or how much. What if he wakes for a feed and I've just expressed?

PD - I find that no matter how long I feed on a breast it never seems to be empty! I give it a squeeze and still some comes out. Does that mean I should just alternate breasts each feed?

morganj...I really wouldn't worry about putting bub down asleep at any time, as long as they sleep, for me it doesn't really matter how they get to that point as long as it's without screaming/stress.

If you expressed straight after a good feed then he shouldn't wake for a while and you should be ok. Sounds like you have heaps of milk though.

If you think supply is good in both breasts, which it does sound like, then I would just keep alternating breasts for feeds.
Eventually they will take both breasts for each feed, or mine do anyways as big bubs, but for now one is usually sufficient. I sometimes just top up D from the other one then he's off to sleep again.

It's hard and a lot of trial and error. I demand feed but the CHN I saw yesterday was advocating 4 hourly feeds. Advice I personally choose to ignore as I think of it like when we sometimes just want a small meal and then a few hours later require a larger one which will keep us full for a longer period, and feel bubs are probably the same. But that's just me and you prob will get differing advice which can be very confusing.:hugs:

connorexnz...do you have a sling?, great for clingy bubs as keeps your hands free but bubs close and content.
We cosleep with D and have had no restless nights thus far, cause he just won't settle in the crib no matter how long I rock it or wrap him up. My other kids were the same and I know in a few years we'll have to wean him off our bedroom but for now it works and makes such a difference to have sleep.

Ruby_Slippers

02-04-2008, 18:38

hi girls, wow busy days feeding burping setttling and then do it all again. Matilda seems to do something different everyday so no routine here.

I definately recommend a sling for settling, more than often I need to settle Tilly in the sling and then transfer her to her cradle (Boori "Matilda" cradle - how cute it was named just for her).

Lately she has seemed fussy on the breast and difficult to feed for longer than 15mins - Im wondering if she is just getting more efficient at feeding and she has had enough or another reason (hoping it isn't because I ended up giving her a dummy) - I hate that word also don't like pacifier they both have such negative associations.

Just found out my friend who has a 10 week old is pregnant again! - wow she will have two under one year and also a three year old.

Looking forward to mothers group again this week - it's just nice to be around others in same boat and to get the weekly reminder that your not alone. That's why i love this forum thing too - we can do it girls!

Hope you all get a decent sleep
tallk soon x

ikis84

02-04-2008, 19:12

Eeek... she has a newborn and is pregnant again. Poor, poor thing! That would really give your body a battering I reckon... not to mention the mental health, eh?!

I can't remember who said what, but I'll respond to the basic topics, lol.

Regarding putting down awake/self settling - I am with punky, as long as they are asleep, whatever method of doing it that causes little stress is what I do! It is too early for it to be 'habit forming'.

I swear by my slings for those fussy periods! Oh, and a vibrating bouncer for times when I can't carry her around and she needs the movement to stay asleep.

Feeding: I mostly feed from one breast only, and keep offering that every time she feeds in that hour and a half/two hours. That way she doesn't overload on foremilk and get a tummy pain. I do offer both when she is cluster feeding in the evening though. She seems to spend about 2-3 hours on and off feeding in the evening, then goes down for a biggish (4hrs) sleep. I also offer both if my toddler has just had a breastfeed.

Moostar, I'd say that she is just more efficient at feeding :) Lucky you!

littlefreckle

02-04-2008, 20:02

Whoo have found everyone. Talk about a preggy brain moment. I have been going into the old thread wondering why it seemed so lonley.
Have just read through and I'm glad to read that I'm not the only one having a few probs. Karjarna has been having silent reflux probs but that seems to be easing with the help from infants friend. The biggest prob I have now is getting her to go to sleep. She was going well sleeping 2.5-3hrs at a time at night now I'm lucky if she makes 1.5hrs. She will fall asleep on me or on the boob but as soon as you put her down she is awake and its taking up to 2hrs to settle her again. Have tried the putting her in the cot and letting her self settle but she just lies there for about 15min then starts to scream. The little darling will sleep in the rocker for a while during the day though. So much for the theory that new borns only have awake periods of an hour or so. At the moment she has been awake for 4hrs. I am amazed how how well the human body can function with limited sleep. Hoping that things will get better soon and she will get some sort of a sleep pattern.
Hoping that we all get some sleep soon and all those who have sleeping angels send the rest of us some sleeping :goodvibes: :laughing::laughing:

kristi001

02-04-2008, 20:43

Looks like i have the oldest bub at 4 weeks! :p

Im Christy by the way and my new bubbas name is Harlo!

~Kristin~

02-04-2008, 22:17

Kristin, are you sure it's conjunctivitis and not your normal run of the mill gunky newborn eye (which is caused by blocked tear ducks)? DD has a gunky eye... so gross but a squirt of breastmilk and a wipe over does wonders :)

Well the Dr seems to think its conjunctivitis, but I have also been keepng it clean and giving it a good dose of booby juice just in case! Seems to be clearing up, but now she has a bit of a snotty nose (thanks for sharing your germs Bella!!!). Also, my grandma had vaginal prolapse after 4 kids, she had surgery again only last year to fix it, so make sure you get it sorted out properly!!! :thumbsup:

Well my lovelies, I'm tired, Dr seems to think I have bit of anemia, had blood tests done yesterday after having dizzy spells, blurred vision, feeling cold and absolutley exhausted. Will get the results on friday - yay - new born and rundown, who would have thought it??? :confused:

Little Freckle - Bella had severe reflux so I feel for you!!!. I found that she settled alot better if I kept the head of her basinette raised slightly, and I also used to wake her every 2 hours for a feed so she had smaller feeds more regularly to help ease the pressure of a full tummy. Reflux is hard work, good luck! xo

Ruby_Slippers

03-04-2008, 01:12

can someone tell me the differnce between reflux and colic?

very unhappy Tilly tonight, have been feeding, trying to settle for few hours now with no avail. FAK (feeding at keyboard at the moment.

hope everyone else :sleeping:

conorexnz

03-04-2008, 10:17

connorexnz...do you have a sling?, great for clingy bubs as keeps your hands free but bubs close and content.

I am seriously looking at buying one, I know they have them down at the markets on Sunday so :fingerscrossed: I make it there and get one... I've heard lots of good things about them and then I would be able to do stuff when she is having her wakeful periods...:smiliedance:

littlefreckle - Hannah also frequently has 'awake' periods of between 3 and 5 hrs, every day mostly during the day which I'm SOOOO glad about, I spoke to the Dr yesterday about it cause I was worried she wasn't getting enough sleep but the Dr said newborns need between 12 and 20 hrs sleep a day, depending on the bub, talk about getting a weight off my shoulder, now I don't feel so bad when she's still awake and alert after a couple of hours and I'm letting her have a kick around, just need to keep an eye out for those "sleepy" signs and make sure I'm actively putting her to sleep then (easier said than done... lol)

3Divas&me

03-04-2008, 11:48

Hi guys- just a quickie- bit of a yuck night last night- Phoebe for the first time was a bit unsettled- she was on and off the boob most of the night- when she wasnt on the boob I was laying listening to the wind howling outside- wandering if I would stiil have a roof by morning! Dd2 still unsettled, again dh dealt with her last night- getting a bit beyond a joke really.

Anyways better fly- we only have 1 more March baby to go- Come on Angelcakes, lets get that baby out!!

hayleylea

03-04-2008, 11:56

Hi guys

well ive been out and about for the last 2 days and you guys have been talking up a storm.

I dont think ill be able to keep up with the personals this time but i will reply to some of the issues brought up.

OK First of all..everything is going great here. Shelley really is a great baby. Sleeping 5 hour stretches at night which is just EXCELLENT! she has been doing it the last 4 nights so im hoping its her routine!

Moostar - im not really sure of the difference between colic and reflux. I think reflux is where they actually bring up the milk and colic is more a wind issue? i could be completley wrong though.

Livies mum - im with you - that wind was soooooooo bad last night!

As for the sleeping issues...im with everyone else. You put them to sleep however you can. Whether that be feeding, rocking etc etc. You do whatever works and not all babies will put themselves to sleep. DS would NEVER put himself to sleep - infact i cuddled him to sleep till he was 1! i didnt have to rock him just had to give him a cuddle till he fell asleep. So far SHelley has been really good and i put her down when she is looking sleeping and 8/10 of she will put herself to sleep. But its definatley not always the case so i wouldnt worry too much if your feeding to sleep etc.

oh damn. Sorry gotta cut this short. DF just arrived with lunch and im starving!!

will be back soon.

3Divas&me

03-04-2008, 15:31

Hayleylea- Shelley sounds like a good bubba- our first night time strech is about 4 1/2- 5 hours but the rest of the night is then 2-3 hours. Last night was all over the place but everyone was unsettled in this household lastnight- including the dog!-lol. Hows this weather hey- cooled down quite quickly here- your probably a bit colder as your up a bit higher!

3Divas&me

04-04-2008, 10:01

Hello.... where are you all today? Bubs keeping you busy??

I started a thread ( you may have seen on your way into this one) for us all to post baby pics, kind of like a litttle photo album for march babies. Would be really good to see some pics of all those March bubs.

My night last night was ok- Phoebe was pretty good- woke 2 times for a feed but have no idea what times they were. Bridget was not too bad last night either- she ended up in our bed but did about 6 hours in her cot before she came in so happy with that.

Mums just arrived so better go let her in:wave:

sarbear31

04-04-2008, 14:30

Hi girls

Had a bit of a rough night sleep last night. Cameron slept for 3 hours then woke up for a feed. then went back to sleep only 2 hours after the last feed and could not get him to settle for 2 hours. This is the first time he has done that. He normally settles straight away. My DH had to get up to cuddle him for an hour because each time I tried he just wanted to be fed and he was getting a belly ache from feeding so much during the 2.5hours I think.
I am thinking about cutting dairy out of my diet because dairy protein intolerence runs in my family and the more dairy I eat the more wind he seems to have. Has anyone else had to modify their diet?

Livies Mum - Pleased you had a better night last night with bridget. Good idea for the photo thread. I just need to work out how you put the link from facebook to the thread and I will put some on.

Hayleylea - You lucky thing getting 5 hour stretches at night. Hope Shelley keeps that up for you.

Conorexnz - Hope you manage to pick up a sling this weekend at the markets. I have not used mine much yet as Cameron sleeps much better in his cradle but would be great if they are wanting to be held.

Moostar - I think colic is more abdominal wind pain and reflux can be vomitting up milk or silent reflux which is very painful for the poor wee bubs. I dont know where the pain is with that though. Did Matilda have a better night last night?

Well my 3 sons are all having a nap so I might do the same. (my oldest just got home from scout camp very dirty and very very tired!!!)

Talk soon

rubyrags

04-04-2008, 15:25

Hi Guys
I am very happy Emma was 2865 at birth and after 2 weeks is now 3430. She is happy with her routine and I love it so all is good. She still has a bit of sticky eye but no where near as bad. I express the 10pm feed and DH gives her that so I can go to bed.

Hope all is great with everyone, we might go to the Flower and Garden show this weekend depending on the weather which has been pretty bad.

Oh and I got the dogs attached to the pram today for the walk to the MCHC and after some mucking around they ended up falling into line... :thumbsup: I am not sore from the walk only 2km but only 2weeks after c/s so wasnt sure how I would go. Might try to do 2km again tomorrow.. :cloud9:

Ruby_Slippers

04-04-2008, 17:48

pleased to report that Matilda graced me with 6 hours of solid sleep last night so feeling pretty refeshed - lets see what tonight brings.

If it wasn't for that nasty wind ... I think they would all sleep a lot better. I wish they were born with a better digestive system. Perhaps it is natures way of making us bond more stronger as we invest so much time, patients, love and enery into looking after them.

rubyrags - what is your routine?

sarbear - hope tonight goes better for you

Ive posted some pics on the pic thread, looking forward to seeing more up there soon.

m x

3Divas&me

04-04-2008, 18:45

Just checking in before i have a bath- Really weird- Did not have any major cravings when pg, but now... post birth, I am totally addicted to and craving chocolate and coffee- Whats that all about, any ideas? Thinking maybe being tired, I am needing the sugar and caffiene as a pick me up?

rubyrags

04-04-2008, 19:08

Hi Moostar I follow the routine designed by Gina Ford it is in the Contented Little Baby Book and their website is great as well. It gets criticism because people think it is really strict - but I love it and Emma loves it - in fact the nurse today said that she is such a content baby and that is one of the goals of the book. Alot of the criticism is from people who havent done it. For first time mums like me it is great

Liviesmum we have easter eggs here and I normally dont eat them but have been as well, maybe it is breastfeeding and the body craving something else. I try to limit coffee to 2 a day but have been feeling like more as well. I have been needing fruit as well though which has sugars so it could be sugars that we need? :detective: How many coffees are you having and are you breastfeeding? So after all that I dont really know :laughing: but I think we will work it out?

hayleylea

05-04-2008, 11:13

3Divas&me

05-04-2008, 11:13

Rubyrags- I was only having 1 coffee a day when I was pg- but that was all I really wanted- the other day I had 5 coffees and went for my 6th when I realised just how much coffee I was drinking- does the caffeine go through the breast milk do you know?

3Divas&me

05-04-2008, 11:17

I got a 7 hour stretch of sleep from Shelley last night!!! A feed and back to sleep for 4 hours!! very happy mummy lol.

As for routines - i say whatever works for you then stick with it!!! I believe routines definatley help - but its each to their own :)

Gotta go grab some lunch before Shelley wakes up...sorry for my short posts. Im still unpacking, have a 2.5 year old to keep busy and of course shelley lol

Wow you lucky bugger- we seem to have this chain reaction effect here with dd2 and 3- one lets out a yelp the other wakes and it goes on like that all night:hair: Going to town to look for a small CD palyer for dd2's room- it was suggested that if I play quiet music in her room while she sleeps, that might be enough to dull out any noise Phoebe or I make at night when feeding, which is waking DD2- does that make sense? Gonna give it a go anyways!

Jules16

05-04-2008, 12:15

RubyRags - I've been thinking of trying Gina Ford but Blake feeds forever and I just can't get her times to fit in with him. Do you express? I'm also concerned that if DH does a feed from the bottle then it might affect my supply.

LiviesMum - I'm pretty sure you're supposed to go easy on the caffeine when breastfeeding. Good luck with the cds. It sounds like you have your hands full.

We had an unsettled night until about midnight and then bubs slept until half five so got a nice stretch of sleep which was nice.

ikis84

05-04-2008, 12:57

Well, the longest stretch my little darling will do at night is 3 hours. Fun! During the day she will go 4 hours though.

MorganJ, your DH doing one night feed of EBM shouldn't interfere with your supply... you may find you need to wake up before bub does because your boobs are gonna burst though!!

I lent the handle of my breastpump to a friend last year, and now she can't find it, so I can't pump. Hand expressing takes ages for me, so that's not an option either. Bah. I was hoping to get DH to do a feed at night every once in awhile (when I really need the sleep).

Regarding the likes of Tizzy Hall and Gina Ford... well, I prefer to just go with the flow and follow bub's lead, I find it easier than stressing about when the last feed was, how long they have slept etc. It worked fine for my 18month old, so I am just going to do it again. They change so much - just as you find some sort of routine they have a growth spurt or something and you need to re-establish it all again. Not my cup of tea - but I am a very relaxed and easy going person to begin with.

hayleylea

05-04-2008, 14:10

Livies mum - hope the CDs work for you! So far so good with DS not waking up when Shelley does. He has been waking up earlier though - and its usually when i do teh 6.30 feed with Shelley - but it doesnt matter i just pop him into bed with us and thats his special cuddles. Sometimes he falls back asleep (if we are lucky lol) but most of the time he just cuddles us.

Ikis - I only get 2-3 hour stretches of sleep during the day of Shelley...so 4 hours is nice. Shelley is actually awake a fair bit during the day..DS was like that too. I dont really mind though. What sort of breast pump did you have?
I had an advent one with DS - but it kept stuffing up (the little valve thingy) A friend of mine has lent me her electric pidgeon one - i havent tried it yet but its suppose to be really good. Im also with you about the whole routine thing they do change alot when they are this age. I try and keep it pretty much the same every day if we are at home but i do allow alot of lee-way.

My basic routine with Shelley is wake up - Feed - change nappy - finish off feed - play - and i let her go till she is tired - which is around an hour from her first getting up to an hour and a half - and then pop her into bed when i can see she is tired.

Anyway better go..

talk soon.

Bluemist

05-04-2008, 15:02

Hi all :)

I'm here and joining in... my little man is going well- he slept the other night for 5 hours. I slept through the alarm (we were getting him every 3 to 4 hours) and DH went to look at him and thought he looked too peaceful to wake him:o:eek: anyway just thought I'd say hello...

hayleylea

05-04-2008, 15:08

welcome blue mist :)

porridge

05-04-2008, 17:25

a quick post - sorry for no personals...

I'm so pooped! Sounds like I'm not the only one though!

DH has been gone since 5am this morning... and is due back around 7pm - the boys have been great but looking after them by myself is just so draining. I should've had a nap this afternoon :rolleyes:

Archie's blocked tear duct has cleared up but now he has a face full of milk rash!! when does that clear up?

We have a CHN appt. on Wednesday so it'll be interesting to see how much he's grown. I'm putting him in 000 suits now - he's growing so long! Griff was in 0000 for ages...

well, I'm going to go and sit back on the couch - hope everyone has a good night (I'm hoping for a bit more sleep)

ikis84

05-04-2008, 17:33

E has looked like a teenage boy (horrid milk pimples, lol) for a couple of weeks now... it's just starting to clear up.

Hope you get some rest Porridge!

rubyrags

05-04-2008, 19:08

:ecomcity:Liviesmum they said in the hospital that caffeine does go through your breast milk so I stick to 2 coffees in the morning. NEED one first thing... they said tea wasnt as bad so if I am crashing in the afternoon I have a tea. I do feel like more coffee though.

morganj I express the feed at 2200 and DH gives it to Emma and puts her to bed and I get a bit more :sleeping: I do think whatever works for you - this works for me but I am a routine person (boring as it sounds but I love a routine, planning, coordinating etc)

I have found that I am one of those protective mums with Emma at the moment, friends come over with their kids and they want their kids to hold Emma and I agree but I am watching them like crazy, all sorts of things I want to keep her away from :rolleyes: I always thought I would be casual and not concerned but I LOVE her so much. I hadnt appreciated a parents love for their kids before has anyone else experienced that?? Frankly I could be with Emma all day and have a great day, I wonder if that wears off?? Anyway

hayleylea

06-04-2008, 06:36

Porridge- Shelley has had milk pimples for a few weeks too...she got them pretty bad! They are starting to clear up now but still there - its horrible isnt it!
Try not to put anything on it though because it can irritate it - creams etc. Best just to wash it with some warm water and make sure its dry. It has been suggested to put breast milk on it but i really think its just one of them things you have to let run its course.

3Divas&me

06-04-2008, 10:04

WOOHOO- dont know if it is a complete coincidence or not, but dd2 slept all night in her own room in her own cot with the newly purchased CD player and a CD on repeat all night:smiliedance: I am hoping for the same tonight- just wish I had taken advantage of sleep last night though instead of watching movies- esp with daylight savings ending and rising at 6:30am not 7:30 am!!!!

Ruby- I totally understand your protective instincts- I was the same with dd1- other kids seemed like monsters compared to her- you do relax though esp with your second- and I cant believe how relaxed i am now with the 3rd! Might have something to do with having a 15 month old- I cut down to 2 coffees yesterday- thought I better.

Milk pimples- Phoebe has a few- have been told it is all hormaonal and usually clears by 6-8 weeks- it did with dd2- cant remember with dd1 though.

I am feeling like a genius today getting that cd player and having the positive result- :fingerscrossed: i dont jinx myself!

Jules16

06-04-2008, 10:31

LiviesMum - well done with the cd player. Good idea.

I was up for three hours with Blake this morning from 4.00 am. He got so cranky on the breast. Was really tensing himself up and trying to grab the nipple with his mouth but he was having too much of a tanty to grab it. I had to keep settling him each time before putting him back on the breast. I think he might have had some stomach pain and so I didn't know whether to keep feeding him or not, even though that's what he seemed to want. Sound familiar to anyone?

DH invited some clients over last night to collect their photos and have a drink. And they stayed from 6.00 pm until midnight. So I didn't get to cook dinner and Blake didn't get a bath (something DH and I do together) and I spent half the evening in the nursery settling Blake while he laughed and drank with his friends. I was so not impressed. Went to bed starving hungry and cranky. The poor guy did need to let his hair down as he has been working hard the last six months, but I think I'd prefer he go out and do at this stage. I just need home to be nice and quiet for Blake. Maybe I'm being too protective.

PunkyDiva

06-04-2008, 12:05

liviesmum...yeah for the cd and sleep, i'd give whoever suggested that a huge kiss. :kiss:

rubyrags...bub no. 6 and i'll still like you describe feeling. A kid tried to touch D in the shopping centre the other day and I was like a gruff ole bear telling him to back off :o I'm bit paranoid with my own kids washing their hands before touching him and I too hover when someone else holds him. I think you go through so much to bring them into the world that maybe it's just a natural instinct.

morganj...:hugs: what rude guests they were, had they not had a newborn before ?? I would have got angry with DH too.
Makes you feel out of place in your own home doesn't it, I woulda just told em time to leave...please, but I'm not one to mince words much anymore, age thing I think and past experiences of allowing others to dictate to me.

D does what you described too, usually in the late evening and most of the time he brings up some wind other times he just feeds through it. I have given him nice bath when too unsettled and that seems to help as does gentle massage of his belly and sides. Last night, within space of an hour, he filled three nappies in a row with poo so guess that was causing him some pain. I may have eaten a bit too much chocolate though.

D is moving ito 00 now but I was suprised he fitted into 000 anyways, lol.

Attempting to get D to sleep in his cradle, may have to try wrapping him tightly as he's such a snugglepuss.

Lyn85 was home from hospital with Kayla yesterday so hopefully we hear from her soon. I've held off texting/phoning as sure she is inundated with visitors and calls but can't wait to meet Kayla.:hugs:

kyannas*mum*

06-04-2008, 12:16

hi all,

im so sorry i have not been on more regular in the middle of moving the office down into a display shed so now i finally have a toy room and toys not scattered everywhere so been heaps busy doing trips down there to organise everything and me and kyanna have been trying to organise this toy room

good to hear everyone is going mostly well and i love hearing about all the bubs and how they are doing

yay livies mum on cd player i have one in dds room and it does wonders she loves it as soon as we go in to put her to bed she turns it on and jumps into bed

morgan im very protective over dd and now ds, i hate being away from them and hate her being in someone elses car now with ds here and after the effort it took to get him( we origanilly were told no kids maybe as dh had cancer and told chemo may make him sterile the falling with dd and having her then when we tried for ds we lost 3 before him so when he was finally born it was a relief) i always like him with me hopefully ill get over it a bit

as for us good now, sheldon had another dissapointing week weight wise and is still over 100gr under birth weight which they were not happy about after being checked for attachment and that all good i was feeding sheldon for 25 each side and then had to top up with bottle so my feeding was taking over 1 hour every 2-3 hours very tiring so i bit the bullet and now have him on bottle last 3 days hes been amazing has feed stays awake for about hour looking round etc then goes to sleep and wakes in time for next feed and last 3 nights i have had full 8 hours sleep woo im happy for that my milk dried up next night no pumping no hard boobs or anything so shows how much milk i had, bit dissapointed it worked out that way as i had hoped for bit longer but lil man is now being fed and not starved,

as for me feel good feel bit more normal again now have finally got rid of all the pads i had, starting my healthy eating full on tomorrow as want to lose preg weight plus more i had b4 preg so starting tony ferguson to get rid of my initial weight so 10kg to go and ill be at healthy weight

wow long post sorry no personals will try get on more often to update and do personals but just a bit hard to find time now that ill be going down to showroom to do the books but will try my best

conorexnz

06-04-2008, 13:07

Hello everyone!!!

Wow, it sounds like things are (generally) settling down for everyone and the littleies are letting us get some sleep or at least into a routine of some sorts...

Hannah has been good giving us good night sleeps, just the day time routine we need to work on now - didn't manage to get to the markets for a sling so will have to lug her around for another week, oh well, good things take time!!!

DP took her for a walk yesterday when she woke (only 1 1/2 hrs after her last big feed so she wasn't hungry) and let me get a bit of a sleep in... it's so relaxing knowing you don't have to listen out for a crying bub!!!

My milk supply is too good (can it be too good?) and Hannah has put on about 700gms since birth, just beginning to outgrow the 0000 clothes because of her length, she's about 55cm so has grown 4cms... I guess I'm the human equivalent of a jersey cow!!! :laughing:

Does anyone have any tricks for getting her to take a bottle? I want to express for a feed but she does a gagging imitation when the bottle gets anywhere near her mouth. Would be good to get her used to it cause I know I need a serious dentist visit and DP will have to look after her...

3Divas&me

06-04-2008, 15:44

Man this day seems to be going forever..... damn daylight savings!!

Kyannasmum- I have heard good things about the Tony Ferguson diet- let us know how you go. I am giving up chocolate tomorrow and getting the treadmill up and running again- would like to loose about 15kg myself.

So tired, dd2 will not have a day sleep today- always something- slept all night last night and now no daysleep:hair::hair:

gotta go FAK- proving difficult!

kyannas*mum*

06-04-2008, 15:53

lol yeah i used to hate it when it was end or start of daylight as u had just got used to it we dont have it up here so dont have to worry but its a pain when i needd to ring family

yeah i was on tf b4 ds i was in the middle of my target and had lost about 8kgs then stopped when i fell preg i felt grat on it and look forward to it again

good luck with your no choccy

conorexnz good to hear from you and good to hear hannah is going well as tips for bottle not sure what you could try makes it a bit hard hey maybe im using the tommy tipee closer to nature bottles and have not had a prob its shaped more like boob so maybe that may be a go

2SPUNKRATZ

06-04-2008, 20:14

just wanted to let you all know i havnt dissapeared off the face of the planet. i just have a DS who hit the terrible 2's and a DD who is extremely demanding. i have not found the time to get myself a drink or clean my house properly, let alone come and read back on so so so many posts that i have missed. i hope everyone is doing well. i know it might seem a touch rude since i havnt been on for agers, but any advice on how to find balance in cleaning house, changing nappies, feeding bubs, and not going insane would be greatly appreciated.

lots of love,
jess

Jules16

06-04-2008, 20:17

Jess - big hugs to you! Forget the housework - get DH to do all that and the cooking. You look after yourself hun. Is there anyone else who can help out?

Can anyone suggest something I can put over the cot sheets to avoid having to change them every day as a result of DS's regular vomits? Every night he seems to have a little chuck and then I get him up for the next feed and find there's a wet patch. I'm too afraid to put down a cloth nappy incase he grabs it and it gets twisted around his head or something.

Any suggestions also on good tops to buy for feeding in public? My family are all coming to stay in May for a few weeks and I dont' really want to spend half the day locked away in the nursery.

porridge

06-04-2008, 20:44

jess - :hugs: to you! I think I might be a bit OCD cos I'm finding I just cannot relax if the house is messy or if there's washing to be done. I've tried doing little bits at a time, but feel best when I get a big lot done all at once (I'm tired after, but then I can relax in a tidy house!) When the kids are asleep, I try to do as much as I can, as quickly as I can. I don't bother with cluttered shelves and the computer desk! Don't even bother! But if the floors are clear of 'stuff' and bathroom, kitchen etc are clean and tidy, I'm happy. I try making the bed in our room - if nothing else at least it makes the room seem tidy! Sometimes I put a load of washing on at night so it's ready to hang out in the morning... or sometimes I just put it on in the morning (am up around 5am for a feed anyway)... I've found doing little loads regularly helps and I don't get too stressed about it. Sorry if that's not much help... sometimes (ok, many times!) I put a dvd on for DS so I can do the dishes and vacuming is fun cos he likes to help.

morganj - I bought a couple of tshirts from Harris Scarfe for $8 and $5 (clearance) that have a few buttons down the front and have found them to be FANTASTIC for feeding. Also, you can get cross over tops (seems to be an in thing) which you can just pull to one side... these do stretch a bit though. A friend of mine suggested today to get strapless tops to wear under your normal top - means you still lift up your normal top, but you pull down the strapless top so you don't expose any back/tummy etc... you can pick them up cheap in some stores (crossroads, supre etc)

As for the sheet dilemma - I just use a folded flannelette nappy under Archie's head. I did the same with Griff and found it worked well - especially while they're not moving around.

I'm going to buy a new pair of pants tomorrow! I am back into my jeans (yay!) am sick to death of wearing my track pants everywhere... daggy!!

bit of tmi... is anyone else still bleeding? I'm starting to get annoyed. It had pretty much stopped/went brown and very light and now it's back! Sometimes I feel it 'gush' a bit and even though there isn't much there, it's bright red. I don't have any pain and as I said it isn't much... but is it NORMAL??!! I'm sick of wearing pads all the time!!! ARGH!!!

well, Arch is asleep so I might head off too... DH got a nap today, but I didn't (where is the justice in that?!)

toodles!

hayleylea

07-04-2008, 06:52

Jess- yep forget the house work - lets face it with a 2 year old (who has hit the naughty 2's) its only bound to get messy again anyway. Maybe your mum could come and help you with the house work for a day?? my mum has done that a few times and its excellent!

Morgan J - just a face washer under their head will save your sheets! or an old nappy or something similar?

Porridge - in answer to your question in the photo thread - yep i took the black and white photos myself Not bleeding here anymore...only stopped 2 weeks ago though.

talk soon.

sarbear31

07-04-2008, 07:28

Porridge - I am finding the same thing. It nearly stops then comes back red again. I cant wait to get out of pads too! How often are you changing your pad? i think if it gets really heavy again you are supposed to let your doctor know.

Morganj - I use muslin wraps for under DS head. You just fold it in half then half again length wise and tuck it in the sides of the mattress. They are easy to wash and dry in no time. You can buy them from target. I worry about him pushing a nappy over his face too but the wraps are great cos they can be tucked in.

Jess - I was thinking about you last night wondering where you got to. I have a house cleaner who comes in once a F/N and just stays for 1.5 hours and does all the floors and bathrooms ducting etc. Best $30 I have ever spent! At least I know its done properly once a F/N and if I get a chance to run the vaccum (or get Dh to do it) in between all well and good. I try not to worry about it too much though. People dont expect your house to be clean when you have a new baby and a 2 year old.

Conorexnz - I would like to get DS used to a bottle too so I will be interested to hear how you get on. I find it hard to express though. What sort of pump are you using. I have tried an avent one but the suction does not seem to be strong enough.

Kyannas Mum - good to hear you have got your little man in a good routine with the bottle. I had to put my middle DS on the bottle for the same reason. I remember he had only put on 80grams in three weeks once then I put him on formula and he didnt look back. I hope I can make more milk this time.

We are doing well. Cameron is in a good routine of 3-4 hour feeds during the day with good sleeps in between and then 5 hours at night. Better go and get my two big boys off to school. Ist day back today yeah!:smiliedance::smiliedance:

Jules16

07-04-2008, 08:03

Sarbear - that is a great idea re the muslin wraps under his head. Thanks heaps for that. I too was worried a nappy would get caught up round his head as he does move a bit and his hands always seem to come out of his wrap at night somehow.

Porridge - I am finding that too. I thought mine had slowed down heaps and then all of a sudden it was all back. And then overnight it has really slowed down again. Have you tried having salt baths? I found that helped. Thanks for the suggestions on feeding tops. And well done on getting back into your jeans already. Well done.

porridge

07-04-2008, 08:03

sarbear - I'm not changing very often (that's why I'm not really concerned - just annoyed!!) maybe 2 a day and they are by no means soaked iykwim...

I don't feel too great today... blah...

Jules16

07-04-2008, 08:25

Porridge - I hope you're feeling better soon! :hugs:

3Divas&me

07-04-2008, 09:54

Hi guys how are you all today- bit of chatting over past 12 hours- good to see!

In answer to bleeding- yep still here too- comes and goes, is red then brown- wish it would just finish already!! With DD1 and 2 only bled a few days- not even a week and it was over- this is dragging, 3 1/2 weeks now!

Jess- same dilemma- not settled myself if house is a mess and cant seem to get on top of it! You clean one area and in an hour its a mess again. My dh is fantastic- helps out alot which makes things so easy- would be lost without him actually. Mum is pretty good too, she comes in and sees what needs to be done and goes for it- that helps alot. If you can get people to help it makes all the difference.

Another good night with dd2 and the cd palyer:yelclap: She did wake at 4:30am and come in with us but only because Phoebe had a mega spew after i fed her and we had to get up and change the bed and our clothes and she was screaming the roof down!

Question- Brauers stomach calm- not for babies under 6 months? Thats what the bottle says? But had Phoebe screaming for over an hour last night with pain- I had that in the cupboard and gave her 1/2ml and she bought up the biggest burp I have ever heard within 2 minutes and then another 10 minutes later, just wondering if safe for babies under 6 months?

Better go, screaming for a feed!

mumbron

07-04-2008, 10:25

Hi girls
Sorry i have been MIA but i have been reading everyone's progress .
Well Matilda is doing really well sleeping eating and growing which is really good.:yes:
And also i want to let you all know that matt proposed to me on saturday night and i said Yes! and we have set a date 25th october!! wont take long to come around so i'm going to be really busy.....
Any way take care Bron x

conorexnz

07-04-2008, 11:29

Conorexnz - I would like to get DS used to a bottle too so I will be interested to hear how you get on. I find it hard to express though. What sort of pump are you using. I have tried an avent one but the suction does not seem to be strong enough.

I have hand expressed and have an avent hand pump - I took the cushion thing out and found it worked better, especially on my "big" boob... still no luck with the bottle though - Mum suggested it was because she was lazy - she had to suck on the bottle but with the boob it just poured out...

Well, that's my 5 mins up - I had to shut the door on her screaming, I've had enough of this c*** for the day already and she's only been up for 4 hrs!!!:hair:

UniMum

07-04-2008, 14:15

I could't give my bubs the bottle the first time. I had to get DF to do it. She pretty much took it straight away from him, she was looking at me in disgust saying 'what is this thing? get the boob out mum!'

Now she'll take the bottle from me anytime. My friend also had trouble but she said she stuck the bottle exactly where her nipple would normally be in order to get hers to take it.

Have to say that getting her to take the bottle for half the day has given me my sanity back. To all the mums that are breasteeding at every feed I salute you! I felt so exhausted from being the only one that could soothe her.

Hope everyones new babies are bringing them joy.....:flowerz:

rubyrags

07-04-2008, 15:34

Congratulations mumbron yes you will be busy but a wedding is a beautiful thing so it will be a nice busy! We got married overseas in Thailand it was great and so easy to organise.

I am still bleeding as well, mine sounds the same it went brown and light and then went back heavier and red. I guess it will settle after a few weeks but I too am sick of it.

My breast pump is electric and I love it as it is so easy I am like a dairy cow with it on. It is Medela.

Freaky day I ordered Foxtel for my DH as a suprise last Friday he tells me how glad he is that we dont have it :( then it was supposed to be installed today and the techs kept putting off the time they would be here so no rest for me, then when they did arrive they couldnt do it. (technical reasons) they had to send a supervisor here to check (more waiting) now I have to rebook if I want it... frustrating. Then the dogs dug out under the fence into next door while Emma needed a feed, dogs are in next door carrying on at their dog:no:. Had to run in while Emma was crying run back carrying dogs and tie the escape artists up to feed poor little Emma. I think Emma was crying because I was stressed as when I picked her up she just stopped....

Finally all quiet here now. What a day.

ikis84

07-04-2008, 17:26

Well, today was my first day alone... It was nice having DH home for 4 weeks, but gee it was kind of nice to have the place to myself today! The house is nice and clean, lol.

I was building it up, but it was easier dealing with the two of them then I thought it would be... thank God for the hugabub though! I had to heat my cup of tea up about 4 times :laughing:

What's your tea (or coffee) reheat tally for the day?

rubyrags

07-04-2008, 19:25

conorexnz how are you doing now? did you work out why she was crying? sometimes I guess it takes a bit of :detective: work.

Hope things have settled

3Divas&me

07-04-2008, 20:46

:bee: Congrats Mumbron on the
Engagement!!:bee:

InSaneOne

07-04-2008, 20:56

Can anyone suggest something I can put over the cot sheets to avoid having to change them every day as a result of DS's regular vomits? Every night he seems to have a little chuck and then I get him up for the next feed and find there's a wet patch. I'm too afraid to put down a cloth nappy incase he grabs it and it gets twisted around his head or something.

Any suggestions also on good tops to buy for feeding in public? My family are all coming to stay in May for a few weeks and I dont' really want to spend half the day locked away in the nursery.

i use a folded bath towel in the bassinette - it seems to be more comfy for him and he sleeps better with the towel under him. plus it saves washing if we have a poo-plosion or a :barf:

as for breasfeeding tops - i love my freshmums. i have the older style ones that open under the bust and they are so easy to use and discreet. great because you don't need to wear a bra with them. i also got a few of the bub2bub brand from kMart. they aren't as good as a freshmums top but they are similar to the glamour mom style of nursing top. they have the drop down cup like a maternity bra but in a singlet. i think i should have gotten a smaller size as mine are a little on the big size so i only wear them around the house and i love them for bed.

I have hand expressed and have an avent hand pump - I took the cushion thing out and found it worked better, especially on my "big" boob... still no luck with the bottle though - Mum suggested it was because she was lazy - she had to suck on the bottle but with the boob it just poured out...

i also have an avent one and i found it worked better without the cushion too. i got a few of the new cups witht he attachment for the pump an it makes storage so much easier - just pump into in and then screw on the lid and pop in the freezer/fridge. and they stack better than the bottles do.

What's your tea (or coffee) reheat tally for the day?

years of making a cuppa then having to do something and when you finally get back to your cuppa it's cold - so i like it cold now. i have gotten so used to drinking my tea/coffee cold and i actually make up a pot of coffee first thing in the morning and add my milk and sugar while it is hot then put it into the fridge to chill so when i want a cup i just get one.

well we are all good here. we are sleeping very well here so i am sending everyone sleeping :goodvibes:

forgot who asked about the pulling off and screaming - but i found when beth (and daniel) started to do this i would put the boob away and burp them as they usually pull away when they have a tummy pain. yes they want to feed as it comforts them but it can make the pains worse. beth used to do this (really bad colic for the first 6 months) and then she would :barf: it all up with the air bubble. sometimes it might take awhile to get the nasty bubble up.

3Divas&me

08-04-2008, 08:49

The sreaming demon dd2 was back last night :hair: Dh slept with her on the lounge til 2:30am and put her in the cot then- and she screamed til about 3:20am- only as I told dh to leave her and I was up feeding anyways- Dh finally gave in and bought her into our bed! I am at a loss, I cringe at the thought of night time.:(

ikis84

08-04-2008, 10:15

Jules16

08-04-2008, 10:26

LiviesMum - :hugs: I hope DD2 settles down for you soon. Must be very frustrating. Do you have anyone who can help you out during the day to give you a break so you can get some :sleeping:.

Billie&Beth - thanks for all the tips. I thought perhaps Blake was pulling away because he might have been in pain. I'll try taking him off and settling him for a while next time he does it.

Where do you get the freshmums feeding tops from? Do you put the bath towel over the bedsheet then? That's not a bad idea either as it would be big enough to tuck into the sides.

Mumbron - a huge congratulations. How exciting!! What state do you live in? We know a lot of good suppliers in Melbourne as we work in the wedding industry. Weddings are so much fun!! :smiliedance:

Well after not being able to keep Blake awake yesterday (until bed time of course) he was wide awake when I got him up this morning and wanted to feed for over two hours!! What the??? It must be the three week growth spurt.

I have my folks coming to stay for two weeks at the end of the month and am getting nervous. I usually just take over the living room each day with me feeding and boobs hanging out. I don't want to feel locked in the nursery 24/7 when my dad sits in front of the tv all day with the remote control :hair:. He forgets that he's not the only one watching. Am thinking we need to quickly furnish our front room with some couches so that I have somewhere to be with Blake during the day - and put his play rug and rocker in there. On the other hand it will be awesome having Mum here to help out!! :smiliedance:

hayleylea

08-04-2008, 10:31

Congrats Mumbron!

Livies mum - so sorry to hear your having trouble with Bridget. Not sure of what you can do though - sorry! I hope things improve for you soon!

Morganj - i love when my mum comes to visit so that must be good for you! Hope you get the front room sorted soon.

Ikis - that was good your daughter slept in her own bed so well for you!

Everything is going well here...Shelley is still feeding and sleeping well.

Better head off. Have the MIL coming for lunch..have spent the whole morning cleaning - and time not to play with DS.

TAlk soon.

mumbron

08-04-2008, 10:55

Hi girls
I'm still on:cloud9:
Thanks liviesmum and hayleylea, morganj i'm in adelaide so i guess thats a bit far away from melbourne that would of been handy i'm so excited we have already set a date and booked the venue so at least thats a start.

liviesmum :hugs:i hope things get better for you with dd2.

I must get to and download some more photos of matilda she is growing up fast.-

3Divas&me

08-04-2008, 12:11

liviesmum, could you try sleeping in another room with Phoebe, adn Bridget in with your DH? At least just so you can get some sleep. That's what I have had to do a few nights. Last night was lovely though, DD1 slept in 'her' room (we normally all co-sleep), in the single bed all by herself - all night! She didn't complain at all and was happily up this morning. We will see how we go again tonight :fingerscrossed:, but I am not going to force her out of our bed if she isn't ready yet.

I like the co-sleeping, and pretty much did it with Bridget over the last year- she is not ready to go on her own (but will sometimes?), but it is difficult when Phoebe wakes for a feed and Bridget wakes too- trying to find a happy medium is quite difficult. Have thought about DH sleeping with Bridget in another room- will give it more thought- just need another bed to do so.

Both babies are sleeping now- so quiet- I have megaloads of things to do but dont really feel like it- will be regretting that decision tomorrow!

InSaneOne

08-04-2008, 15:28

Billie&Beth - thanks for all the tips. I thought perhaps Blake was pulling away because he might have been in pain. I'll try taking him off and settling him for a while next time he does it.

Where do you get the freshmums feeding tops from? Do you put the bath towel over the bedsheet then? That's not a bad idea either as it would be big enough to tuck into the sides.

i got the freshmums from a baby store at mt gravatt (off logan road) but you can also buy them from ebay (second hand) or online maternity stores. i know joy's maternity have them.

i have folded the bath towel into 4th's and then just layed it on top of the bassinette mattress - i haven't worried about tucking it in as he isn't moving much.
i also have another towel that i fold in half and place on the bed and lay on it so if i leak (or bubs chucks) i can just change the towel.
if you are using it in a cot then i would tuck it in the sides when they get a bit more mobile but int he mean time you can just fold it in half and lay it in there on top of the sheet.

3Divas&me

08-04-2008, 20:37

All Phoebe has done today is eat and sleep, she has hardly been awake at all, she has slept while I have changed her nappy, falling asleep on the boob, just so sleepy- is this normal- growth sput perhaps?:confused:

Jules16

09-04-2008, 08:14

LiviesMum. Blake was a bit like that Monday. Although not whilst changing his nappy. And then yesterday - he was awake all day and on the boob all day - being a fussy eater too. Must be a growth spurt. So I hope today isn't a cranky one for you. If you think she's too lethargic then maybe phone the hospital and see what they say.

3Divas&me

09-04-2008, 09:54

Phoebe seems to have a cold- might expalin the sleeping- Had a bit of a bad night with her- mainly due to my paranoid state as she was breathing funny due to blocked nose- having trouble breathing while on the boob and then bringing up a bit of flem and occasionally gagging on that- so hard when you cant get them to blow their nose!! Putting saline solution up the nostral to help keep it clear.

As for Bridget- she slept with dh in DD1's room last night and dd1 slept in with me- worked ok- pity Phoebe was not too well though.

Angelcakesau is being induced today- the last of us March mummies to give birth- goodluck Angel!:flowerz:

porridge

09-04-2008, 12:30

took Arch to the CHN this morning - he's put on another 500g and grown 2cm! He's smiling now too and will give the occasional coo which is very cute.

I went for a light jog today - FAR OUT!! It was good to get back into it, but a bit rude to find out how far I have to go to get where I was pre pregnancy... *sigh*

Hayley - I had no success with the photo editing! I found the free form select tool and inverted and did the hue and saturation... but all I ended up with was a pic with funny looking shoes (they were meant to be red...) any more help?

Hope Angel is going ok!

hayleylea

09-04-2008, 12:54

hmm porridge im not sure why the photo editing didnt work. What program are you using? might be able to help you more ...so did the whole picture go a different colour or just what you inverted??

Shelley is also smiling and letting out the occasional coo too its very cute!

Jules16

09-04-2008, 13:13

All these smiles - how cute!! I think I might have seen Blake smile today when he realised he was about to get more boob - but not quite sure. Sometimes when he is sleeping on the breast it looks like he's smiling but I think it's just wind.

I weighed myself this morning and I'm back at my pre pregnancy weight - just not my pre pregnancy shape!! So still struggling to get into some clothes at this stage.

Blake had a marathon four hours on the boob this morning - in between nappy changing and throwing up and cleaning up that is. Any tips on how to reduce the constant throwing up. He seems to be a bit of a guys - am wondering if he's taking too much at once.

Angel - thinking of you and looking forward to receiving a text from you!

conorexnz

09-04-2008, 14:01

Reading all these chats is very inspiring... keeping me some way towards being sane... damn depression!!!

Hannah still isn't sleeping which has worn both DP and myself very thin... had the CHN over today after an SOS call this morning... Managed to get Hannah to sleep at 1.30pm after 4 1/2 hrs, she'd only had 2 1/2 hrs sleep since 2am :hair:... now have a strategy in place with some time limits so when she next wakes up will give it a go - she's so overtired!!!

On the positive side, Hannah's put on 1kg since birth (24 days) so she's a guzzle guts which answers the empty boob issue. And a nurse that actually said to me that it's okay if I want to formula feed!!! WOW, talk about a relief hearing that... I'm not sure I want to but given the amount she's feeding it's definitely enticing.

So K-Mart has breastfeeding tops??? I'm going to have to have a look, have tried Target and Big W here to no avail when I thought Target would've at least... like many of you, I'm still not back to my pre-pregnancy shape, only 6kgs away from my ideal weight (I've already lost 15kgs - most of it I think was fluid), and most of my clothes still don't fit - am managing with two t-shirts and my bonds bf tops so far, oh and doing the bra only trick (would just let it all hang out but then I leave a trail of milk around the place :o).

I hope you're all enjoying the lovely weather (well, it's gorgeous here...) and enjoying your babes...

3Divas&me

09-04-2008, 14:11

Am hearing you girls- I am actually 4 kg's lighter than pre pg weight but feel so much bigger as the shape is different in my body- I have more wobbly bits this time- LOL:laughing:

InSaneOne

09-04-2008, 14:56

yes kmart has breastfeeding tops in the bub2bub range. also bonds has drop cup singlets that are great too - but as with most bonds clothing it tends to run on the smaller size. target has a breasfeeding bra singlet top that i have tried to get in my size but haven't had any luck. the target breastfedding tops are in with the bras and undies while kmart has them in maternity wear.

as for the wobbly bits - i too have more this time around but i got me some big suck-in undies that go up to just under my bust and they are great. i got them from david jones for $60 each and they help hold in all the wobbly bits and let me wear all my pre-pregnancy clothes that i haven't been able to wear for nearly 3 1/2 years. the physio in the hospital recommended that i get some extra support to help my tummy muscles rejoin after spreading so much with daniel. i am actually thinner now than before i fell pregnant with him. and i can really feel the extra support in my tummy when i go to lift something heavy.

as for my little man - he is sleeping forhours during the day but still wants to play at night so i have been waking him up today and keeping him awake for a bit after our feeds so :fingerscrossed: he sleeps better tonight. he will be a month tomorrow so we will be visiting the child health nurse for a weigh-in and measure. he is still in 0000's for most of his clothes (bonds 000's) and starting to get that cute chubba look.

well i had better go - beth missed her nap today and is getting really cranky so i might give her a early dinner and put her to bed soon.

Jules16

09-04-2008, 16:03

Hi Ladies

Well just had a snooze for a couple of hours to recover from Blake's marathon feed this morning. I can't believe how fast he's growing. I bought a heap of triple 000 bonds singlets on the weekend (well DH did - should have just got the one packet I think) and they aren't much bigger than the 0000. What is it with bonds? A friend bought a 000 easy suit for him on the weekend and he wore it yesterday and already it's too snug. I shouldn't have untagged it so quickly. Sigh! So am trying to use up all the small stuff in his wardrobe as much as possible and so many clothes are going to waste.

Connorex - big hugs to you hon. That sounds tough - both the depression and lack of sleep. I hope Hannah settles more for you soon. Blake seems to be going through a growth spurt/freeding frenzy the last two days too. Am wondering if I'm leaving him to sleep too long between feeds.

BillieBeth - thanks for the tips re the feeding tops. Might have to try and get to Kmart this weekend somehow.

Am I the only one having trouble getting out of the house? I wanted to go walk to the shops today and get hubby an anniversary card - but after Blake's marathon vomit/feed this morning I was exhausted.

Jules16

09-04-2008, 16:29

I've just had a text from Angel!!!

CONGRATULATIONS ANGEL ON THE ARRIVAL
OF MASON SCOTT HORI ISAACS
WELCOME TO THE WORLD LITTLE MAN!!

He weighed in at 8 pound 4 and is 52cm long and head circumference is 37cm.

Unfortunately she had trouble getting him out and they had to use a suction in the end.

Well done Angel!!! xx

2SPUNKRATZ

09-04-2008, 20:00

CONGRATULATIONS MUMBRON ON YOUR ENGAGEMENT!

CONGRATULATIONS ANGEL ON YOUR NEW LITTLE MAN!

IM still finding it hard to do anything atm. i could get DH to help but he is at work 12 hours a day if you include the trip there and home again. my mum has cone a few times to help. shes going to come help this week some time cos we have an inspection next friday. ugh. hate those. i hope she takes into consideration that i just had a baby 6 wks ago so i havnt had a lot of time.
hope everyone is doing well. im knackered. xxoo thanx for the support everyone.

Jules16

10-04-2008, 07:34

I am taking Blake out today to an Early Parenting thing at the local council on my own - it's the first time I've taken him out on my own - am so nervous. Am going to have to plan his feeds and everything around it - I hope I can do it as his feeding is so unpreditable at the moment. He's been throwing up and been very whingy at the breast like never before. :hair: And I've only had three hours sleep!!

3Divas&me

10-04-2008, 09:57

Goodluck Morgan for your outing. I too am finding it difficult to get out of the house atm- easier to stay put-lol!

Congrats Angel on the birth of your little boy!

Good night last night, Bridget slept til 5am in her own room:smiliedance: Just taking it one night at a time.

FAK- so will get on later.

chrissy m

10-04-2008, 10:10

hi i found you all (haha) i have not been on for a long time as i have no time my dd is sick and my ds#1 is too..... its getting cold .....and i think ds#2 is getting sick too any way how is everyone been hope all getting some sleep my boys are leting me sleep 11.00pm-2.00am and from 2.30am-5.30am so still getting up every 3hrs .....thay are getting bigger isaiah is 4.2kgs and thomas is 3.6kgs and both going well i would love to stay and chat but babys are crying

me-24 :cloud9:
dh-30:cool:
dd-6 :flowerz:
ds#1-23m:wizard:
ds#2-6 weeks:baby:
ds#3-6 weeks :baby:

rubyrags

10-04-2008, 10:40

:yelclap: Congratulations Angel you did it and soon you will be here with us - well done.

Wow Chrissy :yes: what a great job you are doing, I can understand why you havent been on, I find it hard enough with only one baby.

Morganj I did the CHC last Friday on my own and what an operation I think it took me ages to get everything organised. I also tied the 2 little dogs to the pram so had to get them organised walking with the pram as well - what a sight we must have been. I am going this Friday so might pack tonight :laughing: Good luck for your outing!

Yesterday we went out to lunch to a very nice upmarket restaurant with DH and business partner and of course Emma. I didnt know how we would be treated with a baby in a pram and most other people in suits but the staff were great. Is there any unwritten rules about things you should do when going to a restaurant with a baby??? I wheeled her away to change her nappy so it wasnt done in the dining section and had expressed milk so DH could feed her. Their bathroom wasnt set out to change her nappy in there, I guess that it most places that you go? I had never thought of that before, now I will have to check out if places have baby change areas...

porridge

10-04-2008, 11:42

morganj - hope everything goes well with your outing, I'm sure you'll be fine!!

Chrissy - you are amazing! Hope your kids get better soon and you don't catch it!!

ruby - not sure on what to do when you go out for tea with bub... sounds like the staff were good though. I haven't been game enough to try expressing a feed (bad memories from DS1) - it would've been nice for your DH to be able to feed Emma though :)

Well, it's my birthday today :party: and it's DH's first day at work! Both the boys are asleep and the house isn't too trashed so I'm happy :D

time for lunch!!

sarbear31

10-04-2008, 12:59

Hi Girls,

Porridge - Happy Birthday to youhappybirthday
I hope you have a lovely day. Sounds like its going well so far.

Ruby Rags - Sounds like you did all the right things when you were out to lunch. I am going out for tea next weekend with Dhs work so I was wondering how I would manage too. I was thinking I would still BF at the table but put a wrap to cover up a bit so no one feels uncomfortable. Even though I dont feel like I should have to as babys head covers everything anyway but some poeple get a bit funny dont they.

Chrissy - Lovely to hear how you are going. It sounds like you are doing an amazing job you clever thing you!

Livies Mum - Pleased Bridget had a good night last night. One night at a time sounds like a good way to think.

Morganj - Hope your triop to the parenting class went well. You will be tired on 3 hours sleep. Hope you manage to get a rest today.

M2M - Pleased to hear your Mum is able to come and give you a hand. I am sure your agent will understand when you have your inspection that you dont exactly have a lot of spare time on your hands at the moment.

Angel - Congradulations on the safe arrival of your little Man. Look forward to hearing all about him.

Mumbron - Well done on your engagement. We are getting married in Feb next year. Its so fun to plan a wedding! Are you going to have the children involved on your big day?

Well as for me we are going well. Cameron is eating well and sleeping well and put on 300grams this week. I managed to express a little milk and he took it from the bottle straight away. It takes me forever to express only 20mls at a time though. I just cant get the letdown happening like it does when Cameron is on the breast. Has anyone else had this problem?
My Mum went home today after staying the last 2 weeks. She lives 2 hours away. She was so sad to go as we wont see her for 3 weeks now. She was even crying when she said goodbye to Cameron. We were sad to see her go too. She has been such a good help. I am all on my own now with Dh being back at work. Aw well I should manage. Bubs is so good so that helps.
Hope everyone else is well. Talk soon.

Brasha

10-04-2008, 16:20

hi everyone, long time no see.

Been pretty much off the planet since our new arrival.

A MASSIVE CONGRATS to everyone!! Welcome to the world all you new little bubbas.

CONGRATS to Mumbron on your Engagement also.

As for us, like many of you (reading quickly over the many posts).. we too have done it tough. Ben has been very unsettled since we bought him hime from hospital.. he is 4 weeks today and still only a slight improvment. He would scream between feeds, a comination of pain, tired, hungry.. all going round in circles..

Vicious cycle.. cant get enough sleep, therefore too tired to feed for long, so only getting fore breast milk not hind milk, so only getting lactose and not enough fat causing more pain. Also showing major reflux signs.. finally got to see our paed yesterday and do something about it.

i was so sick of being told by CCN etc that he was ok, just a little unsettled, its normal..

THATS ****.... i have had 3 other babies.. i can tell the difference. so medication on board now, and settling is a little easier.... although not a major improvment,, its only day 2 so fingers crossed.

On the other hand.. hes gorgeous.. DF helping out where he can, doing a great job for a first time dad.. finally jumped in with everything even though reluctant at first... but all in all... some days getting sleep others not.. most days holding bubba for hours on end..

Thats frustrating.. our general house is a right off, my teenage girls a little neglected.. looking forward to getting some order back, DF back to work next week, so hopefully Ben will be on track by then so I can actually do something between feeds.

On the coffee warming thing.. i think 4 times has been the most.. but soggy cereal is getting to me... the other day it took 4 and a half hours to drink coffee, eat a bowl of cereal and get dressed... that does my head in..!!

on the weight thing.. i am over the moon at the moment.

When i delivered Ben i was the same weight i had been on the day of my first ante-natal visit. I didn't put on a single kilo.....

So he weighed 3.195gms... and i weighed myself when home 1 week from hosp i had lost 8 kilos.. today.. 4 weeks after birth... i have lost 12.5 kilos... i have not weighed this much in 10 years.....if not more.. DF is pleased.. and on the war path to ensure it continues... i will do my best.. still have another 10 to go before i can be extremely happy.. but its nice knowing i have to go shopping tommorrow... Nothing i own fits me anymore... although still flabby....actually cery flabby...lol

Congrats to all who are doing well with their pre preg bodies..

wishing yo all the best.. hope you all are having a great day...

ikis84

10-04-2008, 17:38

Wow, congrats on the weight loss Brasha! Sorry to hear that Ben has been unsettled, hopefully the meds keep it improving.

Sarbear, I had the same problem with expressing, and found that expressing whilst bub was feeding helped, also looking at bub or thinking of bub while expressing... that and trying to express just after a warm shower when you are relaxed and the breasts are warm.

2SPUNKRATZ

10-04-2008, 17:58

wow, im actually back on before theres a massive pile up of posts i dont have time to read. lmao.
today i have been producing a strangely large amount of milk, so i decided to express some before feeding. i got a 150ml bottle filled. :eek: and then gave her a full feed aswell. crazy.

the whole thing with going to a restuarant, you did the right thing changing the nappy away from the table. other than that, theres no reason not to BF there. and most places dont have probs with people havin bubs there.

anyways gotta finish dinner. its already late.

xxoo

Ruby_Slippers

10-04-2008, 20:28

Hi marchies,

Sorry not on much at the moment, I actually am working and have been since Matilda was born. I am designing a magazine (from home) and deadline is next weeks so have been frantic. Can't wait till it is finished, I wont know what to do with myself. Everytime Tilly is asleep im on the computer trying to get the mag done.

Just as well, I have this little bit of money coming in bc dh has been jobless since Monday week. Its a long story, but completely unexpected so we are in financial **** (it's nice to have him home though .... doesn't pay the bills).

No luck here expressing with hand pump - will keep trying, I really want to be able to express to give myself a break from nursing occassionally. I'll try again tomorrow morning after my shower (reading earlier tips - any others appreciated).

Brasha - I sympathise with you, its such frustrating work isn't it. Matilda has days (and nights) like this and I just end up in tears, crying with her from exhaustion. Luckily she is not like this all the time - I cringe at the thought. What medication did they suggest for Ben?

sleep well all x

Jules16

10-04-2008, 21:31

Hi Everyone

It was great to get out of the house today. Prams are so bulky though aren't they and the capsule is very heavy. What does everyone use when they go grocery shopping? I was going to stop at the super market but didn't know how I was going to carry the grocery whilst pushing a pram.

Brasha - big hugs to you! Sorry to hear Ben is so unsettled. :hugs:

ikis84

10-04-2008, 22:04

I can't beat my hugabub for doing grocery shopping :)

(And washing, and vacuuming, and eating dinner, and playing with DD1, and.... everything, lol).

That or get DH to do the grocery shopping :laughing:

Jules16

11-04-2008, 07:57

A friend has lent me her hugabub so now I need to get brave and actually use it. I watched the video and it looks easy enough - just a bit worried about throwing bub over my shoulder in the shopping centre car park and trying to get him in. What if he wriggles! Anyway, will try and practice today. Am sick of the pram and capsule already!!

conorexnz

11-04-2008, 10:34

Hi ya,

So much happening and March mummies slowly coming up for air only to be spending it on the internet (:yelclap: something for you!!! And it's not housework... unless your priorities are different to mine and you do your housework BEFORE getting on here :o)

Chrissy - I bow down to you... one child is being a challenge to everything I possess, you've got more!!! WELL DONE :thumbsup:

What does everyone use when they go grocery shopping?

I love going grocery shopping (yes, I know I'm weird) but with DP having the vehicle I'm getting withdrawal symptons not being able to go...

DP picked me up a couple of Monday's ago and we went shopping - we used one of the trolley's with the baby capsule thing on... it worked for about half the time then DD got cranky and DP ended up carrying her while I whizzed through the remainder of the shopping.

My LUCKY sling arrived in the mail yesterday so next time we all go I will be prepared!!! Just need to figure out how to use it and give it a test run first :laughing:

Someone mentioned about expressing only about 20mls - that's all I'm getting too and it's taking ages!!! I thought something wasn't quite right... any knacks/tricks to expressing while feeding? It sounds awkward to me??? I'm very keen to get it working (looking forward to a girls night out in June and want DD taking the bottle by then... not to mention the inevitable dentist visit too)

We've been working v hard to get Hannah out of this sleeplessness phase - one week with less than 10hrs sleep each day does not equal happy families. We're coming up to the end of the second day now and things are changing... Hannah was so exhausted yesterday that she slept from 7.30pm to 2.50am... BUT not only that, after her feed she went back to sleep for a few hours and has been REPEATING this without battle. WOW, what a change!!! She's been down for 40mins now and no crying... I can hear her talking to herself but :fingerscrossed: she gets bored with this and nods back off!!! I had an informal day stay at the Child Health Nurse thing yesterday and they showed me this video of "tired signs", the first sign of tiredness and she goes to bed now, wrapped and said goodnight to... no more holding and walking her for four or five hours waiting for her to cave in and leave those eyes shut... I can feel the weight coming off my shoulders...

Sorry to carry on, I just needed to share... I'm so stoked, haven't felt this happy since before she was born!!!

Jules16

11-04-2008, 11:00

Connorex - that's awesome. Well done. I find Blake just feeds and feeds until he falls asleep. Not a great habit to get into really. And not allowing for much play time/tummy time.

InSaneOne

11-04-2008, 11:09

daniel does the whole feed to sleep thing too - but beth was the same so i am not too worried about later on.

as for expressing it can help to express while feeding bubs from the other side. now this isn't easy and takes a bit a juggling. can be messy to so have a chuck rag handy for spills or leaks. i find that if i express one side while daniel is feeding i can get about 160mls or more if he hasn't fed for a while.

with shopping i use one of the trolleys with the capsule and i try to organise a feed before we start. i sit and get a nice coffee and feed him and then pop into the trolley and get our shopping. he will often stay awake for a little while then drift off. just try not to go over too many bumps with the trolley and i bring a fairly thick blanket to lay him on as the capsule on the trolleys can be uncomfortable, and a blanket to cover him as shops are generally too cold for the little ones.

conorexnz

11-04-2008, 11:22

as for expressing it can help to express while feeding bubs from the other side. now this isn't easy and takes a bit a juggling. can be messy to so have a chuck rag handy for spills or leaks. i find that if i express one side while daniel is feeding i can get about 160mls or more if he hasn't fed for a while.

wow, who would've thought I could get that much... I'm sure I can, I generally walk around the house leaking constantly whether or not I've just fed - my aims getting better, I sometimes have a laugh when DS has her mouth open to attach and I just aim my squirt into her mouth... :laughing: I did accidentally get it up her nose the other day and had her sneezing (oops!!!)... hmmm roll on the next feed so I can give it a go... THANKS!!!

Jules16

11-04-2008, 12:04

Wouldn't bub get in the way of the expresser??

ikis84

11-04-2008, 12:15

Feed bub in the football hold :)

Morganj, do you do play/tummy time already? All Elora does at the moment is sleep and have cuddles... I don't bother with any of that yet.

What's everyone else doing?

conorexnz

11-04-2008, 12:21

Thanks MorganJ for asking that question... hadn't really processed the information that far through yet (and I thought I didn't get preggy brain - must've postponed it to now :laughing:)

Hannah's playtime consists of lying on her back on a V shaped pillow (the one I use for feeding her) just after I've fed her, then I talk to her, otherwise she's lying on the floor just staring at something exciting like the coffee table (I think it's the contrast between the dark wood and the light background she likes)... I'm thinking of starting tummy time next week for a few minutes just to see how she goes... she'll be 4 wks then

Two To Be Three

11-04-2008, 12:30

i thought i should put up some pics of Catlin

about an hour after i had her
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/ravofireman/100_0253.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/ravofireman/100_0251.jpg

daddy and Catlin (three days old)
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/ravofireman/28032008002.jpg

here she is in the hummity crip at the hospital
4 days old
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/ravofireman/27032008.jpg

first time in her cot (14 days old)
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/ravofireman/06042008001.jpg

oh and DP told me to put this up
we both sleep alike (17 days old)
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/ravofireman/31032008.jpg

my fav one (12 days old)
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/ravofireman/31032008002.jpg

littlefreckle

11-04-2008, 12:30

Hi all. I've got 5min of quiet time so I thought id jump on and say hi. Wow too many posts to try and keep up with. Sounds like all our bubbies are doing the same things.
Not going too bad here at all. Went to the clinic nurse today and she is really happy with Karjarna. She has put on 660gms in the 3.5wks since she was born so she is now 4400gms (9lb 14oz) she has only grown 1cm but she said that that is ok she will have a growth session soon. Feeding like a trouper every 2-3hrs during the day and 3-4hrs at night. Has an awake period in the arvo where I put her on the play mat so she can have a kick and wiggle. She loves it and is holding her head up when on her tummy. Started smiling the other day so cute so now DH spends ages trying to get her to do it. What does everyones bub think of bath time. With Karjarna its get her in and get her washed quick as she cracks it in about 5mins. Not a big bath bub at all.
Got a nice break last night as I went to the movies with a friend and left bub with DH. Went well as she takes the bottle no worries. Having no worries expressing as I normally drown 4-5 sets of breast pads each day. Will be glad when it settles down. I can be feeding on one side and have the bottle on the other side catching it as it runs out. Saves cleaning the pump all the time :laughing:
Gotta go someone is calling for more boobie juice. Will pop back on soon. Take care x x

bellalika

11-04-2008, 15:17

Hi everyone. I am new to bubhub and had my little boy in march.

Thought I would say hello to other people who have babies born in the same month.

Brasha

11-04-2008, 16:39

good afternoon all.....

Hope all of you are having a wonderful day with your bubs.

Ben seems to be settling better, not super but much better.. so hopefully things are looking up for the little man.

Still sicking constantly...AARRGGHH the washing!!... as soon as you change him, he either sicks or wees on his clothes.....and its change all over again..

Little Freckle... sounds like the movie did you the world of good...

Bathtime for us is pretty good.. Ben seems to love it and is quiet and enjoying as long as its not too cold... as soon as it cools a little he gets upset....

We have a little playtime after a feed in the bouncer, and have just started having some floor time as well.. he loves being on his tummy although only for a few mins.. loves to hold that head up..

has eveyrone had a few outings yet?

We have had our biggest so far last weekend..
We have visited the CCN nurse and Breastfeeding drop in clinic, Been to the OB, been to the paed in Newcastle, been shopping many times..just to get mum out of the house mainly, and last weekend my sisters wedding in Sydney.. so that was eventful...

Off to Sydney again this weekend to visit Grandma, DF thinks i need to get out and about before he goes back to work on Monday.. will be weird without him, although am looking forward to getting myself in some sort of routine.

Better go screaming again!!..

Moostar.. sorry about hubby work.. hope all works out ok for you both...good luck with getting the mag finished on time. i could never have tried that.. we haven't had a wink of time to do anything but care for Ben.

We have Ben started on Zantac. Next step is Losec i believe.. but hoping the Zantac does the job.

rubyrags

11-04-2008, 21:50

:smiliedance: Emma is now 8lb5oz and growing like a weed... From 6lb5oz at birth she is putting on which is great. I hope I am putting it off :laughing: - I take my measurements tomorrow each Sat at the moment I will take my measurements.

Well done conerexnz it does make such a difference getting good results and it is such an achievement.

Happy birthday Porridge for yesterday

I use a nipple shield to make Emma think my breast is a bottle otherwise she just doesnt want it. Anyway tonight I didnt notice and it had slipped so she was sucking on an empty teat but it has given me like a burn - ouch hopefully overnight it will clear.

not very long post tonight as very :sleeping: and am off to bed :hugs: to all

3Divas&me

12-04-2008, 06:05

Good Morning ladies- I am up and little Bridget is still asleep in her cot- another all nighter:yelclap: Hopefully we are on to something but it will probably all go south as we are going to NewCastle for a few days to visit my brother (leave tomorrow). Will be enough to put us back to square 1 I reckon.

Great pics Catlinsmumma- how are you feeling?

happybirthday Porridge for 2 days ago.

Welcome bellalika, look forward to hearing more from you around this thread! Whats bubs name? Actually give us a rundown on all his details- DOB, weight, birth story etc.

I am so slack, really want to get Phoebe weighed- have not done it yet, she is growing fast, can see and feel it.

Will come back a bit later as will be offline while we are away, hope everyone has a nice Saturday.

ikis84

12-04-2008, 08:23

RubyRags, have you seen a lactation consultant or something? I have heard that continual use of nipple shields can adversely affect supply, as the nipple does not receive the same amount of stimulation. I am sure you have heard that though, so I'll butt out :laughing:

Two To Be Three

12-04-2008, 08:31

:wave:hi all

im feeling alot beta from having catlin and the surgery,, but she now has colic and reflux,, but we are getting that under control slowly but surly

we has only been waking up :yelclap:once during the night now and that between 3 and 6 in the morning:smiliedance:

well i beta finish feeding her and get another day underway

talk to you all afterwards :wave:for now

bellalika

12-04-2008, 10:41

Thanks for the welcome Liviesmum.

Basic rundown of details are below, plus a detailed birth story (sorry, I tend to prattle)

Logan was born at 1:33am on Friday, March 7th. He was 35 weeks + 4 days at the time. He weighed 61b, 8oz - or 2950g, so he would have been a big bub if he went to full term (EDD April 6th). He was 48cm long with a head circumfence of 33.5cm.

I went into labour just before 11pm on Thursday night, just as I was getting ready for bed. I thought I was having very mild Braxton Hicks as I had never had them before. I then kept having to 'wee' every 3 minutes, and called the hospital at 11:30 when it started to go a pinkish colour. They said it was probably incontenance and that I could come in for monitoring or stay at home and call them back in an hour. I opted for the latter as it takes about 25 min to get to the hospital and I didn't want to get there just to be told it was nothing. By midnight I was having full blown contractions every 3 or so minutes, so my husband called the hospital back and they said to come in. He then ran around the house throwing things into a suitcase as I hadn't packed yet (it was my weekend 'job' as DH was going away for buisness for the long weekend - he didn't end up going). We got to the hospital at about 12:30 (We made it in 15 minutes - I think we went a little above the recommended speed). When we got there the Midwife said I wasn't weeing myself, the baby was allowing a little more fluid past him with each contraction. They did an internal and discovered I was already 10cm, so called my OB, who got there by 12:50. They also called the pead on call, who got there as I was pushing. Logan was born at 1:22am after about 2 1/2 hours of labour. DH was allowed to cut the cord and then he was rushed of to the SCN, DH in tow. He had problems remembering to take the next breath, feeding and maintaining his temperature. He stayed in the SCN for 9 days, and then we were allowed to bring him home. I love having him at home, expecially as it broke my heart having to leave him at the end of each night, just to go back in the next day and have those few special minutes with him when they let me feed him.

He has since been diagnosed as having GORD and a floppy laryx. I have learnt that when we go out I need to take 3 changes of clothes for him and at least one spare top for me.

littlefreckle

12-04-2008, 11:59

liviesmum - An all nighter. One could only hope that we get there one day. whats your secret. So far 4hrs is our best run. Thank god for nanny naps :laughing:

2SPUNKRATZ

12-04-2008, 12:33

yay. Aaliyahs tests were negative. she DOESNT have urinary reflux. woooooooTtttttt!!!!! things are going pretty well. unfortunately she has a cold atm and has an ulcer on the back of her throat making it difficult to feed her cos it hurts her to much. so at the mo it s lots of small frequent meals for her. DS has turned into a massive terror bag and i want to cry at how much he p!sses me off lately.
i have started trying to express and am going ok with it. my first try i got a total of 20 mls. the next time, i expressed just before feeding her and got a total of 140ml. and earlier today, i expressed 40ml from 1 side while feeding her from the other. i could have kept going but she started screaming and i had to stop to calm her down. i dont think she liked the buzzing of the expressor. (its electric)
DSs 2nd bday is on the 20th and i got him a fisher price little people fire truck and some clothes. i dont know what else to get for him. im stumped lol. well little miss just woke up so i will catch you all again soon.

rubyrags

12-04-2008, 13:34

:hair: vent we have an intercom on our gate and at 1.00am and 4.00am kids (i think) were pushing the buzzer and running away, then Emma woke at 2.50 s0 of sorts I have been up all night and now we have visitors coming.

Makes me feel like waiting for those kids tonight and putting the hose on them, maybe I should put a sign up "breastfeeding mum with newborn beware" :laughing:

must go fak

hayleylea

12-04-2008, 15:48

Hi guys

wow too many posts for me to catch up to do personals but just wanted to show my head in. Sounds like eveyrone is going well and all our bubbies are growing fast!!

As for the expressing thing. I tried out the electric breastpump that my friend has lent me and i got 20mls...could have got more but Shelley woke up lol. THe pump is fantastic!! I tried her with the bottle with the 20 mls and she took the bottle first time no worries at all! only thing is i think she is more a wide teat girl - i only had nuk ones as thats what DS liked.

She is sleeping well - anywhere from 5-7 hours at night, which is fantastic!She now smiles all the time and on demand. Its so funny and cute isnt it their first smiles!!

hers a few pics
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/web7-1.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/web-9.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/web2-9.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/web-10.jpg

talk soon

2SPUNKRATZ

12-04-2008, 17:47

oh hayley. shelly is so adorable. we have the same rocker btw. :) Aaliyah has been doing little smiles for a couple of weeks, but she stops everytime the camera comes out. she must know. hmmmmm lol

porridge

12-04-2008, 18:11

Hayley those pics are gorgeous! I love the smile! I finally worked out how to do the b&w with colour! thanks for your help with that :)

Arch slept for 7 hours last night (I was asleep for 5 of them) It was so nice to wake up and not feel tired - mind you it didn't take long to get tired.

I can't believe he is nearly 5 weeks old! Griff is finally being affectionate towards him - sometimes unprompted! Griff can be a bit rough still, but I guess that's to be expected.

Am taking Griff to our GP this week to have a look at his testes... one of them hasn't descended and we might need to have surgery - I'm a bit nervous about that but won't think too much about it until it's definite. Has anyone else had problems with this?

Time to change a nappy and finish a feed... bath a 2 year old and put them both to bed!! YAY!!

hayleylea

12-04-2008, 18:18

Hey guys..thanks for the comments on the pics...

Porridge - glad you worked out the black and white/colour photo - sorry my instructions werent the best. Havent had any experience in the teste department...hope it all works out for Griff. Cooper is very affectionate towards Shelley aswell - he can be a bit rough in putting all his weight on her to cuddle her but he just adores her!!

Jess - Cool we have the same rocker. Cooper and Shelley actually share it lol. He still sits in it occasionally and has a rock and watches TV - crazy little munchkin. Shelley was the same as Aali with the whole smile thing and the camera..it was only today she decided to do it for the camera and i was happy about it...Happy little thing she is..(most of the time lol)

Im at home alone tonight (well with Shelley of course!) Trent is on night shift and Cooper is at my mums for the night. Its so quiet without my little man around and i miss him heaps!

Anyway Shelley is yelling out so i better go.. this is our play up/feed period

talk soon

allsgood

12-04-2008, 20:06

I'm sure my new boy knows when I'm relaxed and confident I can get a couple of mins on the computer cause he insists on waking up every time :laughing: Had my not so little lad (10lbs 14 1/2 oz, 58cm length) on 7th March 08 and he's now the size of a 2mth old in 00's already! Who know's what size clothes he'll be in by the age of 1yr old :laughing: Will be on steak and chips by 4mths!
Well he's awake wanting a feed so better sort him out.

Alicat4

12-04-2008, 20:18

Hi everyone,

Finally found this thread after being off-line for 3 weeks while we moved house!

Good to read the posts and see that everyones babies are doing well - can't believe that some bubs are sleeping for hours at a time overnight! Harry is wanting milk every 1-2 hours in the day and 2-3 hours during the night (if I'm lucky...!) He is piling the weight on though and we are bonding nicely with all the feeds! He hates being put down, so I'm pretty much sat feeding him or carrying him around these days. He's just 4 weeks old now, so he should hopefully start to enjoy being put down and playing soon.

Time for another feed, and probably nappy time too!

3Divas&me

13-04-2008, 08:48

Going away today- will leave shortly, just feeding Phoebe, catching up on the net while I transfer money from accounts!!! Amazing how we can multi task so well!!!

Another allnighter for Bridget:yelclap: so will see what happens when we get back.

Have a nice couple of days, talk soon.

2SPUNKRATZ

13-04-2008, 11:25

Jess - Cool we have the same rocker. Cooper and Shelley actually share it lol. He still sits in it occasionally and has a rock and watches TV - crazy little munchkin. Shelley was the same as Aali with the whole smile thing and the camera..it was only today she decided to do it for the camera and i was happy about it...Happy little thing she is..(most of the time lol)
omg, are our kids the same kids or something lol. Marius and Aaliyah share the rocker to. it was his first and i found that if i let him still sit in it, hes not so upset about Aaliyah going in it. so he has time and so does she.

I'm sure my new boy knows when I'm relaxed and confident I can get a couple of mins on the computer cause he insists on waking up every time :laughing: Had my not so little lad (10lbs 14 1/2 oz, 58cm length) on 7th March 08 and he's now the size of a 2mth old in 00's already! Who know's what size clothes he'll be in by the age of 1yr old :laughing: Will be on steak and chips by 4mths!
Well he's awake wanting a feed so better sort him out.
oh hun, you are the only other March mummy who i have seen that has had a bub as big as mine. my bubba girl was 10lb2. so you actually had a bigger bub. wow, well done. Aaliyah is also wearing some 00's already. just the wondersuits atm though. but shes growing so fast. she feed all the time. i guess cos shes so big she needs a lot. im hoping i wont have to give her solids at 4 mths. i gave solids to Marius at 4 mths but wish i had waited till 6mths. but cos my babies were both so big, she will probly need it sooner to. but im still going to attempt to go as long as i can.

DH is home from work today, has an RDO, and so far all he has done is play his computer and now hes having a shower. i told him if he goes to bed in the middle of the day today, im going out. he didnt go to bed last night. played his computer all night. when he does that he has a bad habit of going to bed mid afternoon and sleeping for hours on end. im sick of it, and im not letting him get away with it anymore. am i being unfair?

well better go. its lunch time and im hungry. i know marius will be to soon enough.

hayleylea

13-04-2008, 15:43

Hi guys

Liviesmum - YAY for bridget sleeping through again - i hope it lasts when you get back from holidays..have fun!!

allsgood - good to hear from you. my bub was 9pound12 so im up there with the big bubs from the march group. She too is in 00 wondersuits - but mainly 000's wont be long though till she is in 00 for everything though.

alicat - good to see you back in here too!

Jess - our kids are alike huh! Everytime we chat on MSN i think that lol. It was also Coopers rocker before Shelleys but he is quite happy to give it up when she has to go in it.

Im a bit worried about Shelley at the moment. Her poos are a bit runnier then normal. Im just watching her for now...she seems pretty normal other then that. IM hoping its nothing too serious...

Anyway she is awake better go.

porridge

13-04-2008, 16:07

Hayley - I hope Shelley is ok!

Archie has been screaming all afternoon! It's so draining!! I tried to have a nap and DH watched him but nothing DH did worked and he just cried/screamed... I think he just has bad tummy pains... I've fed him and changed him and changed him again (!) I can see he's tired too but just cries!

liviesmum - I hope Bridget continues to sleep well for you! That must be such a relief for you! hope you have a good time away :)

:wave: everyone... have to go - Archie's calleth :rolleyes:

GirlGerms

13-04-2008, 18:03

Just got back online after a self inflicted absence from the net� thanks all for your earlier advice when I was feeling down. Luckily, I�m feeling much, much better. I�ve found my rhythm with Anna and I feel as though we�re bonding well now (the first two weeks I didn�t feel like we were bonding at all). This last week has been great and she even pulled an (almost) all nighter a few days ago. We�re generally getting between 4 and 6 hours out of her at night, so I�m definitely not going to complain.

I�m back on the bike now! I tried last Sunday, but ended up in a terrible mood because my stitches were still pretty sore. The perineal stitches didn�t hurt one bit as they end up kind of covered by my (currently enormous) bum, but the episiotomy stitches were pretty sore. Anyway, I tried again this morning and NO PAIN!!! So I ended up going for a quick ride. Managed 23.5km with a pathetic average speed � it took me about 1 � hours which is pretty pathetic. But at least I�m back on the bike. I can�t really complain about being back on it in 3.5 weeks. Am walking for an hour most days as well, so the weight is coming off. Not that there was a lot of pregnancy related weight, but I�m a bit of a fatter anyway, so it�s good to have the time to do it now that I am no longer working.

Rubyrags � can you turn the intercom off at night? Either that or get a rocking chair and place a blow up doll wielding a shotgun in it?

Re expressing, I found I could get very little out with the hired electric breast pump (50ml max) � the manual one let me get about 100ml in one sitting no problem (even after having the electric one on). I don�t find the manual one to be hard to use either� maybe it�s just me? Mine is just the Pigeon one - at $50 I can't complain. I even sent the bar code away and received a free gift worth $20 (breast pads, some shampoo, bottle cleaner and a dummy). I'm still expressing but not getting much more than 50ml now - my milk is well and truly drying up. My nipple is only just starting to get better now after 2 frigging weeks of treatment! Inferior piece of crapola nipple!

Hayleylea � what a gorgeous smile Shelley has!

Liviesmum � great to hear you�re getting some sleep.

It�s great to hear that you�re all doing so well. I�ve been checking out the photos thread and you all have spunky babies.

Take care all! :flowerz:

GG

2SPUNKRATZ

13-04-2008, 21:15

hey GG, are you certain your milk is drying up and not just settling down? i though i was drying with DS cos i couldnt express as much anymore, but it turned out i was just getting a more steady production and it was settling. dont give up thinking that your losing your milk. i know so many people who have given up thinking they were losing there milk but they werent. and doctors dont explain it to well either. get talking to a lactation consultant before assuming your milk is drying. (sorry if you already have and im being an ****)

off to bed.
xxoo

littlefreckle

13-04-2008, 22:11

Well here I am once again wide awake. Well one of us is anyway. Karjarna is clean, dry, fed warm, no wind and wide awake :crying:. Will go to sleep feeding and then as soon as you put her down she is awake. Have tried a dummy which she hates and the mobile to no avail. At the moment she is in the cot cracking the poopers and I'm in the lounge with the telly up posting. I know im a ***** letting her cry but at the moment I just need the time out. DH is in bed snoring he doesn't hear much plus he has to go to work at 5am. OK vent over will go try again. Worst case I guess I'll sleep in the rocker with her not that I want that to become a habbit. Hope you are all getting some sleep x x x

Bluemist

13-04-2008, 22:15

Hi all,

I too have been missing in action!But just read through the thread...well most of it anyway :).

Its great to read how everyone is doing.

We have been going ok...we had a bad day where DS wasnt sleeping too well and seemed really uncomfortable/unhappy/windy etc but luckily it resolved itself as all he seemed to want to do was get on the boob- wouldnt sleep for long at all and then want the boob again and I was getting exhausted and frustrated as I didnt know how to help him.

GirlGerms- I agree with Mummy2Marius&Aaliyah- dont assume your milk is drying up- remember that if bubs is doing the sucking at the breast they can get more out than an expressing machine. I am no good at expressing at all...in that it wears me out and I get tired and sore from doing it- and it would take me forever to get 50 mls! Infact I have given up expressing - and only express if my little man has a longer sleep and my boob is just too sore- even then I only remove a little bit (mostly cause Im paranoid that he will wake up and then want a feed!- but also because expressing really wears me out). So to me 50 mls is alot to express!

Anyway glad you are feeling better I had an episotomy (my most feared and NOT wanted thing) with my DD- as she had decided to stick her elbow and arm behind her head :rolleyes: so can understand your pain so am pleased when you got on your bike you had none :)

PORRIDGE- hope Archie has calmed down for you- its so tiring isnt it when they wont settle. We have had a few days like that...and he really looked like he wanted to go to sleep but just couldn't- or not for long. Mind you alot of farting was going on too so I think he had things in there that had to come out !The MHN thought it could of been something I ate- like if I had alot of chocolate that day...I told her right there and then I was a chocoholic but I only had the really good stuff (and expensive stuff as DH says :)) and that he had been exposed to quite alot of it when I was pregnant. So i dont think it was chocolate and I really hadnt eaten anything that unusual.

Anyway I am quite excited as DS is now 9lbs 6ozs (he was 8lbs 4ozs at birth) mainly because with DD she was very slow put weight on and I had so much pressure from ppl not to bf start solids early and blah blah. So going to the weigh in's was traumatic and had alot of unnecessary stress with her- up to a year they were hassling us over her weight. But it was just how she was (before kidlets I was a skinny rake) and she is still slight for her age (she just turned 3 OMG!!)
But it was really nice to see some great weight gain as subconsciously I realised I was worried - simply because of my experience with DD.

Anyway I have ranted enough :)

ETA- Oh hey there littlefreckle- take some deep breaths- and huge hugs to you. Thats what DS was doing on his off days...go to sleep on the boob and as soon as I put him down would wake up and want it again! No advice but just huge hugs and support. Its ok to let our little ones cry for a little while...so don't stress. I found reading Baby Love relevant bits sometimes just reassured me that things were normal, and what I was doing was normal and sometimes there arent answers and we have to ride it through with them. (HUGE HUGS)X

Night everyone :)

Bluemist.

Two To Be Three

14-04-2008, 04:50

allsgood - good to hear from you. my bub was 9pound12 so im up there with the big bubs from the march group. She too is in 00 wondersuits - but mainly 000's wont be long though till she is in 00 for everything though.

Catlin was 9pound 5 when she was born and 52cm long and she is still in 0000 and 000 are still too big and she is three weeks old today

whats going on here she must be punie then,, well got her weighed thursday and she is just under 11pound now

well how is everyone else doing???? good i hope

porridge

14-04-2008, 05:40

Archie is nearly 5 weeks old now... I have a question about breastfeeding... He's feeding 3-4 hourly during the day (sometimes 2-3) and 4-5-6 hourly at night but my boobs aren't getting that really full feeling - is that normal?? He had a bit of a fussy time early this morning and it took ages to get him to take the boob and then he kept coming off... could this be my milk drying up??? I'm trying to rest as much as I can! are there 'signs' to look for when your milk is drying up?

Have decided to start my day early today - normally after the 5-6am feed I go back to bed and then I don't get started till 8... it's supposed to be a good day though so it's WASHING DAY!! :smiliedance:

Hope everyone has a good day - :hugs: freckle! I hope Karjana went to sleep for you! good to hear from you Bluemist! Arch did settle and slept for 6 hours (pity it wasn't o/n though :rolleyes:) it's good that your DS is putting on some weight and you can relax a bit with the weigh in's.

Ok... time for a milo :)

ETA - Catlinmumma - I saw you in the paper the other week! (I meant to post the day I saw it... oops) A happy easter baby!!

hayleylea

14-04-2008, 06:38

Catlin was 9pound 5 when she was born and 52cm long and she is still in 0000 and 000 are still too big and she is three weeks old today

whats going on here she must be punie then,, well got her weighed thursday and she is just under 11pound now

well how is everyone else doing???? good i hope

Shelley was 55cm long so thats probably the difference..some 000 are still too big for Shelley - depends where they are from

Porridge..as for your boobs i have no idea - maybe your milk supply is just getting use to archie having them sleeps over night. ive notice mine have settled down now Shelley is in a routine overnight. She sleeps from 6-7 hours first go and then anywhere from 4-6 the next wake up.

Anyway i better get off here..im trying to get into the doc today for my 6week check up and the dreaded papsmear!

hope everyone has a great day.

Bluemist

14-04-2008, 07:19

Just a quick one while DS on the boob!

Hey porridge- is Archie doing lots of wet nappies and poo's
Oh just found some info here. Sometimes my boobs feel a bit softish too.

http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/lowsupply.html

Will bbl have a good day everyone. :)

kyannas*mum*

14-04-2008, 07:59

hi guys just a quick note to say hi while on the run, i am so slack and intend to come on more often but it just never happens im so sorry

so good to hear about all the bubbas and different stories still cant get over that we were all complaining about the pregs and now most of the bubbas are nearly 1 month old

well we are good sheldon was 1 month on thursday and after full week half on bottle he finally gained good weight :yelclap: hi is now 9p and has gain 450grams since birth yay very thankful, hes still being an angel hes very content will have a feed then lay awake for about an hour kicking chatting then have a sleep, so very happy about that as everyone said oh your gonna get a shocker for your 2nd as kyanna was so good so ha ha to all those that teased me, little trooper is sleeping 8.5 hours at night so im able to function the next day thankfully, kyanna still being good with him which is good cant get over how overwhelmingly happy im feeling

healthy eating going well feeling pretty good, and getting a new car today which is exciting as my car now is too small with the 2 car seats and pram etc

anyway hope your all going well chat soon

conorexnz

14-04-2008, 09:04

Hi ya, just checking in, Hannah's still asleep after a rough night getting to sleep last night (a 1am relax finally), she didn't even utter one sound when I put her down after her 5.30am feed - and she was awake!!! I think all the hard hours of crying herself to sleep are finally paying off, not to mention we've had four good days of decent sleeps!!! YAY!!! She's sleeping between 4 to 7 hours at night in one stretch, then doing that again after her feed, I can sleep!!! :smiliedance:

Archie is nearly 5 weeks old now... I have a question about breastfeeding... He's feeding 3-4 hourly during the day (sometimes 2-3) and 4-5-6 hourly at night but my boobs aren't getting that really full feeling - is that normal?? He had a bit of a fussy time early this morning and it took ages to get him to take the boob and then he kept coming off... could this be my milk drying up??? I'm trying to rest as much as I can! are there 'signs' to look for when your milk is drying up?

Hey Porridge, my boobs are doing all that too and Hannah is also taking her time getting to the boob, once she's on she generally has a good feed though, I think it's just your boobs settling down to bubs routine... it's also good to remember that it only takes about 24 hrs to build your milk supply up again. I think I need to change the topic - letdown happening :eek:

Nice to see more March mummies making an appearance - my memories not what it used to be so no more personals, remembering one was a challenge !!! :D

Enjoy the day... the start of another work week??? Remember the days...:wave:

porridge

14-04-2008, 10:48

thanks for the advice on the boobs and milk etc... bluemist that link was helpful! He has lots of wet nappies and poo's so there's nothing to worry about. (shouldn't really be complaining that my boobs aren't hard rocks should I??!)

A friend had a little boy last night - they were going to send her home cos labour kept stopping and starting and contractions weren't that strong... they checked her and she was pretty much fully dilated!! Her waters broke and he was born onto the bed (lucky she was lying down) the midwife didn't even have time to put on gloves!! Both are well.

hmmmm... someone wants my attention...

2SPUNKRATZ

14-04-2008, 11:40

wow porridge. congrats to your friend.
if you worry bout your milk, one thing that always makes my milk supply rapidly increase, i eat heaps and drink heaps of water. guaranteed, the next day, i feel full as a boot for most of the day. sounds to me though like your milk is just settling. one thing i have noticed of all my friends is that they think they are losing ther milk supply at the point in which its settling down. please dont mistake the two. i think i have said that before.
anyways, my nipple is really sore today. well, just behind my nipple, i think its a little blocked just bhind it. so hopefully next feed Aaliyah will be able to suck that through and fix it.its quite painful. not permanent pain, but a dull ache with the occasional sharp stab through it.

i to am having trouble getting Aaliyah to go down in her cot. she will feed, go to sleep, i put her down and she wakes up.

i have an inspection on friday, and my house is absolutely trashed. i hate it. its so hard to get anything done. so im really looking forward to my mum coming round this afternoon to watch the kids so i can get some stuff done. i got most of the dishes done yesterday, FINALLY, DH had the kids so i could do it. i tell you what, the A hole tried to complain to me that Aaliyah wouldnt settle for him (she had only just started to whimper when he said this) and i was sooooo peeved at him for it i just said, "well it aint my fault you stayed up all night, deal with it, i want to get these dishes done!" i am so glad i stood up for myself. he is so lazy. i also told him yesterday that i am no longer buying him take out food. he eats so badly. i will make homemade food and he will sya, i dont want that, i want hungry jacks, or KFC or something like that. and i usually (stupidly) go and get it for him. but no more. he wonders why he feels sick all the time thats why. and im not doing it anymore. yay for me!

anyways, ive rambled enough. i should get some more housework done. :fingerscrossed: this little miss stays asleep when iput her down so i can get more done.

conorexnz

14-04-2008, 11:54

he is so lazy. i also told him yesterday that i am no longer buying him take out food. he eats so badly. i will make homemade food and he will sya, i dont want that, i want hungry jacks, or KFC or something like that. and i usually (stupidly) go and get it for him. but no more. he wonders why he feels sick all the time thats why. and im not doing it anymore. yay for me!

Good on you!!! Now with the money saved from buying takeaways all the time when you've got perfectly good home cooked meals, you can hire a cleaner for a few hours a week!!! :yelclap: Hmmm, floors vacuumed/mopped, showers & toilets cleaned magically... :cloud9:

Here's to Aaliyah giving you some assistance at the next feed!!!

littlefreckle

14-04-2008, 12:09

M2M&A - I hear you on the blocked duct thing. Have had a couple so far and I get really hard on the outside edge. Found that football feeding her helps. Good on you for telling DH off. He's is crazy wanting to get take out where there is a perfectly good meal there. No wonder he dont feel good

Well I have survived as we do. Karjarna finally gave in at 2am and slept till 4.30am. Went back down at 7am and woke at 8am. Also just to top it all off she had now slept in 3hrs blocks all day waking to feed have a look around and go back to sleep. :fingerscrossed: she will stay awake this arvo and sleep tonight.

hayleylea

14-04-2008, 15:51

hi guys

Kyannasmum - sound slike Sheldon is doing great on the bottle! Sounds like you have a very content little boy there :D

mum2marius - sounds like your DH needs a good kick up the backside. Id be so cranky if my DF went and had take out if i had already cooked a meal for him!:banghead: Stick to your guns too - and i hope you get some stuff done with your mum around. Its hard to keep the house work up to date with a little one! I have 3 loads of washing thats sitting in the spare room wanting to be folded and put away - Ah well ill get there lol.

I went for my 6 week check up at the doctor today and everything is healed up nicely and looking good. Had my pap test done too - so glad thats over for another 2 years!

anyway ive been out grocery shopping for most of the day so i better go get some things done.

2SPUNKRATZ

14-04-2008, 20:29

M2M&A - I hear you on the blocked duct thing. Have had a couple so far and I get really hard on the outside edge. Found that football feeding her helps. Good on you for telling DH off. He's is crazy wanting to get take out where there is a perfectly good meal there. No wonder he dont feel good
ive never done a football feed before. am trying it right now. she seems pretty happy to do it to. hope it helps this duct problem. its so painful. :(

Bluemist

14-04-2008, 21:53

Hi again girls...good to see those bubs are settling down and having good sleeps...

About blocked ducts etc...yes I hear you..I try and massage down (not too hard) wards while DS is feeding and that seems to help. But now I am convinced I have another problem - vasospasm of the nipple- I had heard about it and I said to DH yesterday I think I have it as I was in OUCH pain. Happened today too and part of my nipple turned white after a feed...apparently if its bad the whole nipple turns white. Anyway I had a warm shower and the next feeds have been better- and I am wearing warmer clothes..apparently the cold makes it worse. Hopefully it will go away.....

Porridge- congrats to your friend...wow!

Mummy2mariusandaaliyah- We have an inspection too- on thursday....the house is half ok...but actually thats the one thing that really does my head in...trying to keep the house looking good. (especially seeing my DH is a hoarder- I should have him sorted by the time he is 80- he has improved but its a slow and painful process as far as I'm concerned. My mum is interstate (as is basically all our family) so at least you can get some help. All the best with it.

Anyway big hello's to everyone else...am feeling really tired tonight.

Night.... hopefully I will be doing this soon :sleeping:

rubyrags

15-04-2008, 08:01

good morning I had a rough night... thought she woke at 2 but while I was getting things ready for a feed she went back to sleep (it was only a sleep grizzle!) then because I was half awake everytime she made a noise I thought she was now awake this went on until 4.

Fed her then she was wide awake finally going down just before 6. She has just had another feed. I am overtired so cant really nap at the moment so feeling a bit :(. DH is home this morning which is great and this afternoon his daughter is doing an afternoon of nannying while I do some work from home. (think I will be brain dead though) So having her here may be good although she will have her 1 year old as well which does mean things can get pretty loud. This is the first trial of her doing this for us and something she really wants to do.
Anyway enough venting feel better now

conorexnz

15-04-2008, 08:17

Sorry to hear about your **** night rubyrags... see if your DH can take your bub out for even an hour (if you've got the time), I've found that without Hannah in the house I can really relax cause you aren't half pie listening out for her... might be able to get a power nap in...

We've more or less got our day time sorted but our evenings/nights are still a bit bumby - took ages to get Hannah to bed after her 6.30pm feed (I went to bed at 9pm wiht a pillow over my head while DP had a turn with the ear plugs) then another couple of hours when she woke for her 2am feed... grrr!!! I thought it was mean't to be arsenic hour not hours!!! And two of them???

Oh well, will see if tonight's any better, one day at a time...

Jules16

15-04-2008, 09:13

Hi Ladies

We had a long night here too! Was it a full moon? Blake is back to fussing on the breast - constantly detaching, wanting to re attach, squirming, crying, fussing. And it's hard to keep re attaching him every five seconds when he's so wriggly. Any suggestions? I'm wondering if it's wind or reflux. I think he's having a bit of a growth spurt too. His sleep this morning has been very whingy. I keep thinking he's awake and ready for his feed as he's so loud but then I go in his room and he's fast asleep?!

hayleylea

15-04-2008, 12:30

Sorry you guys had a bad night last night.

M2M - hope that blocked duct gets better soon. I had it a few times whlist breastfeeding Cooper but so far with Shelley it has been smooth sailing.

Morganj - Shelley is a bugger during feeds sometimes and im constantly reattaching her. Its only during the day most times though, during her night feeds she is excellent! Blake waking and you thinking he is ready for a feed and you go in his room and he is fast asleep sounds exactly like Shelley today!!

Anyway she is down now so i best do something!

littlefreckle

15-04-2008, 13:32

morganj and hayleylea - thank god for your posts I thought I was going mad:laughing:. Karjarna is doing the same. I was just having a nanna nap in bed and she is in the lounge on her play mat. I heard her crying got up and dressed walked out to the lounge and she is sleeping peacefully:confused:. Stood there scratching my head thinking thats it i've gone mad with lack of sleep.

Not too bad of a night last night she slept from 8.30 to 12.30 went back to sleep at 2 and woke every 1.5hrs till 7. At least that was better than screaming till 2 like the other night. My boobs are going mad today i thought that my supply had settled down but today they are so full again. Come on bub time to wake up mummy is going to blow up. Think I might express and freeze some.
Has anyone used the avent variable flow teats. I have the normal newborn ones in avent and tommee tippee but they seem to flow too fast for her she gulps and get a belly full of wind.
Better go she is actually awake this time. Time to relieve some pressure whoo
Take care all x x

sarbear31

15-04-2008, 13:35

Hi girls
Good to hear how you are all going. We are going well and Cameron seems to be in a good routine. He is only waking up once during the night now so that is lovely.
I wondered if anyone had any advice re nappyrash? Cameron has had it on and off since birth but it is really bad at the moment. Very red raw and blistered. He poos all the time so this is not helping. I try to give him as much nappy free time as possible and have tried every cream on the market. I wonder if its time to take him to the doctor to get some steriod cream. Anyone had to use this before? I dont know what else to do for him. He does not seem to be bothered by it but I feel so sorry for him. If anyone has any advice that would be most appreciated.
For those of you whose babies are fussing at the breast I had this problem with my oldest son especially on one side and ended up having to wean him. Years later I took him to a chiropractor for headaches and she asked me if he had trouble breastfeeding on one side because of his neck being out from a traumatic birth.
So I dont know how you feel about chiropractors but if you could find one who is experenced in treating babies that could be worth a try?
Hope you are all having a happy day. Talk soon.

ikis84

15-04-2008, 13:45

Just a quickie as DD1 is in the highchair calling out to me.

I have a black 'loveable' 10E bra here... it was worn once during pregnancy but I am far from a 10 now, so it doesn't fit :laughing: Anyone here want it? You pay post though as I am broke, lol.

porridge

15-04-2008, 13:50

sarbear - that's a really interesting point re neck trauma. It's amazing they picked up a problem with your son and could relate it back to when he was a bub!

On the topic of nappy rash... I use babybee honey and herb botty butter. It's a Tasmanian product - petroleum free. I used it with Griff as well and have had no issues with nappy rash at all. check out different products here (www.beebeauty.com) I have a little sample pot if you would like it.

Anywho... am off to visit a lady from church... toodles!

hayleylea

15-04-2008, 14:45

sarbear - have you tried daktozin?? i used this for DS when he had bad nappy rash and it cleared it up within 24 hours! you just get it from the chemist..but you had said you had tried everything... What nappies are you using? sometimes different nappies (if using disposables) dont agree with different babies...just a thought.

Anyway better run!

littlefreckle

15-04-2008, 15:03

Help DD is doing big runny poos usually with great force and she is leaking up her back and round her legs. she is in nappies for up to 5kg and weight 4.5kg. If i go up a size will that help????

sarbear i agree with porridge in regards to the tassie nappy rash cream (not just cause i live here) DDhasnt has any rash yet but i have used it on my godson. Its good if you have skin allergys too

Jules16

15-04-2008, 15:15

Freckle - I've often got up in the night to find Blake has poo up his back!! And his nappies are Huggies. I had a very soggy Blake this morning too so am thinking of switching brands and trying the Aldi ones.

Sarbear - sorry to hear about the nappy rash - hope you find an answer soon.

hayleylea

15-04-2008, 15:54

littlefreckle - yep i would go up a size...it might help - might not some poos will go up their back no matter what lol. But usually the next size is say 4kg-8kg anyway so it would be worth a try.

morganj - i use aldi nappies and find them fantastic. DS has wore them since i found out about them - only thing is with their newborn ones they are quite big - didnt matter for Shelley because she was big anyway. But i use them all the time and think they are awesome.

2SPUNKRATZ

15-04-2008, 15:59

Any suggestions? I'm wondering if it's wind or reflux.
my little one has this to. i use brauers colic relief. you give them 1ml. it works a treat. she settles within half an hour of it every time without fail. its all natural so its ok for them to have. you just get it from the chemist.

I wondered if anyone had any advice re nappyrash? Cameron has had it on and off since birth but it is really bad at the moment. Very red raw and blistered. He poos all the time so this is not helping. I try to give him as much nappy free time as possible and have tried every cream on the market.
i tried all the different creams i could find. inclunding Lucas Paw Paw ointment which is usually the best. Aaliyah still had horrible red raw nappy rash. then my friend suggested using johnsons baby powder with cornstarch and Aloe vera. worked a treat. she hasnt had a rash since. (excpet when i didnt use it for a whole day and it came back.) but then i used the powder again and its gone again. it just soaks up the excess moisture.

Help DD is doing big runny poos usually with great force and she is leaking up her back and round her legs. she is in nappies for up to 5kg and weight 4.5kg. If i go up a size will that help????

sarbear i agree with porridge in regards to the tassie nappy rash cream (not just cause i live here) DDhasnt has any rash yet but i have used it on my godson. Its good if you have skin allergys too
i always found that poo up the back was a sign DS needed to go up a size. :)

Jules16

15-04-2008, 16:38

i always found that poo up the back was a sign DS needed to go up a size. :)

Interesting. I'll try Aldi then. Blake seems to be growing out of everything. Even Bonds 000 which are supposed to be for up to 6kg. I don't think so.

Ruby_Slippers

15-04-2008, 17:48

Hi all,

Sorry I have not posted for a while, things have been mega busy with me working on deadline for magazine I am producing and designing. Nearly over (send to print Thursday)

Sarbear - how interesting about the chiropractor. My DP commented on how maybe wrapping them so tight might cause problems later on with their spine etc.

Morganj: Bonds is small sizing - I have found the same. Mtilda grown out of 0000

m2m: I bought the Brauers colic relief also. One thing though it says on the bottle feed 1ml every half an hour for the first 4 doses (that's 2hours - you would want it to be working by then)

On fussing at the breast: Tilda does this too, often in the later feeds of the day. It seems to mean she needs to burb or has wind. Often I will burb her and she goes back on but other times she will just grizzle and pull away. This is when I change her nappy and then swap sides - usually works (no guarentees)

Nappy rash - I don't use any cream, just baby wipes. so far so good with the nappy rash.

Aldi nappies - seem to be the go, I have had several recommendations, but Matilda doesn't fit into yet.

Anyway - Matilda has been fantastic today, pretty much slept between feeds and easy to put down - hope we havn't jinxed ourselves for the night :fingerscrossed:

hayleylea

15-04-2008, 18:29

im lucky with the whole wind thing. Shelley gets rid of it now worries..infact half the time she doesnt even need burping! She is so good at getting wind that she usually just pulls off the breast and does a burp unassisted and goes back on lol.

Moostar - glad everythign is going well with Matilda.

im buggered today. I have the sorest back and i knocked my head on a cupboard today and still have a cracking headache. Off to bed early tonight!! (well hopefully!!)

ikis84

15-04-2008, 21:26

Am I the only one in our group who uses cloth? Any more clothies?? I've never had a poosplosion in a good fitted and cover!

2SPUNKRATZ

16-04-2008, 08:45

lol Ikis! i do both. cloth and sposies. just depends how lazy i am feeling. but DD has mostly been in sposies so far. i have trouble getting cloth around such a small bottom. i will be using them more often when her bum is a bit bigger. same as i did with DS. i know you can get them to fit properly, but i have so much trouble doingthat i just get to frustrated atm.

3Divas&me

16-04-2008, 08:52

Hi guys, I am back!!!

Good few days away but really full on with 2 bubs. I think I may have turned my brother and his girlfrend off kids for life!!!

I had a quick bowse over conversation for last few days but too much to respond to.

Bridget still doing well sleeping at night, so may have finally got back into a pattern with her- WooHoo!!:yelclap: Thought the few days away would break the cycle but we took the porta cot and she was happy to use that.

Better go get the kids and bath them, nice day outside, will try and take them out for a run!

sarbear31

16-04-2008, 08:58

Thanks everyone for your nappy rash advice. I had the thought last night that maybe it is fungal so I went to chemist and discribed rash to pharmasist and he agreed with me. So I have started using antifungal cream overnight and it is looking better already.

Porridge - That tasmanian cream sounds great. I will try some once I have given the fungal thing a go. I like the fact that it is natural.

Ikis - I would love to be using cloth. I have a beautiful collection of AIO's that I would love to have on him but everytime I try his rash gets heaps worse no matter how often I change him. Hopefully once it is fixed I can get him back in cloth. What sort of covers do you use?

hayleylea - Hope your back and your head feel better today and you got a good sleep

Moostar - dont know how you are finding time to do magazine you clever thing. What sort of mag is it?

I went into my 8year DSs class this morning so he could show his baby brother for show and tell. It was so cute all the little girls in the class were so impressed.

Hope everyone has a good day.

Jules16

16-04-2008, 09:37

Hi Ladies

Thanks for all the tips re the feeding. Fortunately it improved over night, and this morning I just put him down in his bouncer when he got too fussy and now he's peacefully sleeping. I have a feeling that it's when the feeds go on for too long (he keeps fallling asleep and then waking up on the boob) that he gets a bit over tired and then the fussiness starts.

Ikis - can you recommend any cloth nappies. I want to switch over eventually. I just thought I'd find my feet first with everything else before going down that path. What is a good alternative for these disposable wipes too?

LiviesMum - glad you had a good break and that bridget is still sleeping through!! Great news. Must be such a relief for you.

porridge

16-04-2008, 09:48

well, I have decided that perhaps I have enough milk after all... my boobs have started to feel 'full' again ( I knew I shouldn't have complained!!) last night Arch went from 7pm til 2:30am without a feed... I woke up and my boobs were HUGE and hard... thought hmmm... I wonder when he'll wake up? and all of a sudden - WHOOSH! there was milk everywhere!! and on my clean sheets!! He seems like he's growing everyday... have been getting a few comments 'he's obviously getting enough' and 'he's definitely growing!' :D it's probably stupid but I feel proud of myself... I look at Arch and think I'm helping him to grow!! By this time with Griff I was crying a lot and eventually put him onto formula and felt that he didn't really need me anymore - it was awful.

liviesmum - glad Bridget has stayed in routine!! good work!

sarbear - I hope the fungal stuff continues to work and you're able to keep on top of the rash. That's cute about the girls being impressed in your son's class - was he the expert on babies for the day?

well, I have a big day of cleaning and grocery shopping ahead of me today... better get to it!

Have a good one!

kristi001

16-04-2008, 09:52

Hey Ladies!

I dont post here very often but wanted to jump in and say :wave:!
Its Just going too fast, dont you agree! Harlo is already 6 weeks old :crying:

Am I the only one in our group who uses cloth? Any more clothies?? I've never had a poosplosion in a good fitted and cover!

WE Use Cloth :thumbsup:

Well Not full time as I only have about 7 newborns and Harlo needs a change atleast every hour on the hour.

But we try and use them as much as possible!

Ikis - can you recommend any cloth nappies. I want to switch over eventually. I just thought I'd find my feet first with everything else before going down that path. What is a good alternative for these disposable wipes too?

We use Monkey doodles and they are fantastic, they actually last longer on her then any disposable that I have used!

Hope all is well and I hope to keep posting round this way!

littlefreckle

16-04-2008, 12:22

Went to town today for out first solo trip. Never again. Karjarna was fed and changed before we left she slept on the way to town (bout 20min) and the second she was in the pram she started to cry. I gave her a top up and changed her again and she settled for about 10min then started again. Couldnt get her happy so after spending an hour in town I came home without getting anything I wanted. Sorry to get on here and winge but i think there is something wrong with me. Reading all your posts everyone seems happy with their bubs even with feeding and sleeping problems. Karjarna is a fairly good bub she doesnt scream all day, feeds no probs and even sleeps 3-4hours at night. I came home from town and layed on the couch and bawled. Seem to do that most days now. I love her no worries but dont feel connected to her. If she cries i go to her and give her anything she wants but it feel more like its cause I have too not cause I feel that mothering urge too. DH doesnt get it. Feel trapped here. He just expects me to get on with it regardless. Might just be being stupid but if someone told me that id feel this way but being a mother i dont think I would have had her. anyway she wants a feed better go. Will see if she will have a sleep after might have one too might help
Take care all x x

porridge

16-04-2008, 13:47

Trudy - big :hugs: to you! becoming a mum for the first time is a HUGE change for you. It sounds like you are doing a great job! Newborns are hard work and I think it can often feel like a thankless job because they can't give you much assurance that you're doing it right (except cry, stop crying, burp and poo :rolleyes:). Before you know it, Karjarna will be smiling and gooing, giggling, rolling over etc - she'll be interactive!! Don't worry about coming on here and having a whinge though - it's good that you do! It is ok to have a cry too, but if you feel like it's getting too much for you maybe have a chat to your CHN or GP. I'm not sure guys really understand the change we go through, but the more you talk to your DH the better picture he will get and hopefully will be able to support you a bit more. Go easy on yourself, rest and try to set some time aside for YOU - go for a walk, have a bath, go out for coffee. It's important that you reward yourself. On the crying in the pram topic - I've found that the bumpier the ride, the better they settle. Also, don't be afraid to let bubs cry for a bit - it won't hurt her (especially as she was fed, dry etc). If it bugs you to push a crying baby, get your DH to do it or a friend and then you can walk a few steps in front or behind! Take it easy and don't be too hard on yourself :goodvibes:

3Divas&me

16-04-2008, 14:06

Little Freckle- :hugs: to you for today, and I totally agree with Porridge- it is difficult and does seem like a thankless effort- My time with dd1 seemed pretty tough in comparison to dd2 and 3. Make time to bond with Karjarna- sit and cuddle her or rock her to sleep- it does not hurt and it helps you build a bond with your baby- lay on the lounge and watch telly or read a book with bubs laying on your chest- it is precious time that you cant get back and all helps in getting to know your baby and building that special bond. In regards to the pram- have you got a sling or baby carrier? So much easier to get about with bubs and keep them settled when on a shopping trip- ditch the pram for a few months- little babies like to be close and it is a better way to get things done. Take it easy, you are doing a great job- it is easy to forget that sometimes.

ikis84

16-04-2008, 14:31

:iagree::iagree::hugs:
Little Freckle- :hugs: to you for today, and I totally agree with Porridge- it is difficult and does seem like a thankless effort- My time with dd1 seemed pretty tough in comparison to dd2 and 3. Make time to bond with Karjarna- sit and cuddle her or rock her to sleep- it does not hurt and it helps you build a bond with your baby- lay on the lounge and watch telly or read a book with bubs laying on your chest- it is precious time that you cant get back and all helps in getting to know your baby and building that special bond. In regards to the pram- have you got a sling or baby carrier? So much easier to get about with bubs and keep them settled when on a shopping trip- ditch the pram for a few months- little babies like to be close and it is a better way to get things done. Take it easy, you are doing a great job- it is easy to forget that sometimes.

littlefreckle

16-04-2008, 14:39

thanks guys its good to know that im not going bonkers. Im heading to mums for a couple of days so she can take her for a bit and ill go out on the farm (omg i sound like a hick) with dad for a break.. regarding the pram i have a carrier that i think ill try next time. will give it a go round the house to start with x x x

sarbear31

17-04-2008, 06:30

Morning everyone

Littlefreckle - That sounds like a great idea to head off to your parents place for a break. Sometimes we just need our Mums when times get tough. Or I know I do. Hope you come home feeling refreshed.

Well Camerons nappy rash is so much better this morning. The antifungal cream seems to be doing the trick. I am so pleased it was doing my head in not being able to fix it.
We had another good night. He seems to be in a good routine of waking at 2 then 6. It works well as he is back in bed now and I can concentrate on getting the big boys off to school and getting ready for the day. Can even have a shower before noon!
I took him to the CHN yesterday and he has put on 470grams in a fortnight which is great. He is now 58cm long too so no wonder he is growing out of all his clothes.

Hope you girls and all your babies are well and had a good night.

porridge

17-04-2008, 06:51

we had a good night too! Arch went down at 7:45pm then up at 2:30, down at 3:15 and then up again at 6:30! He's back in bed now too which means eating breakfast at a relaxed pace :)

Off to playgroup this morning... it's a beautiful day and I don't have any washing to do so I'm just going to enjoy it

Hope everyone has a good day!

conorexnz

17-04-2008, 08:24

It seems our good progress has taken a back seat for a while... Hannah woke at 4.10pm yesterday arvo and I finally managed to get her off at 11.30pm... she would fall asleep then wake like 20 mins later - all refreshed except for us... was a real battle!

And shes feeding every three or four hours too which is unusual, she spent the first four weeks more or less only waking once during the night so it's a bit chaotic her... so much for settling into a routine :devil6:

Enjoy your trip home littlefreckles... sounds like fun!

Jules16

17-04-2008, 09:46

conorexnz - sorry to hear about your long night!! It sounds like she's going through a growth spurt perhaps. Does she settle to sleep after a good feed? My Blake is feeding like there's no tomorrow this week and he's turned my bbs into boulders!! I felt engorged again last night - ouch.

sarbear - Well done Mum on your little one's weight gain - awesome news!!

LF - I agree with what everyone else has said. Being a Mum isn't an easy job - but I feel it does get easier. When you are used to being able to do whatever you want, when you want, it's a big change!!! I have had my moments where I've thought - why did I decide to do this - this is so hard!! I think though as time goes by the bond will grow stronger and there will be more interaction and rewards for all the hard work. When Blake plays with DH they have a ball together. Blake even made his first sound to DH the other day when I was in the shower. However I feel like as soon as I try to play with Blake - he just wants more boob. Take it easy hun and I hope you get to enjoy some time out at your folks place. Big hugs!!

We had Blake weighed yesterday too and he's put on 700 gms and is now 56cm long. I can't believe how quickly they grow!! We had a very unsettled Blake last night after his visit to the nurse and not getting much sleep all afternoon. Anyway, DH came home and somehow he managed to get him settled really quickly - I was so impressed!! It made for a very peaceful evening which I thought was going to be a complete disaster as he was so over tired.

3Divas&me

17-04-2008, 10:34

Hi all, how things today??

LF- good idea about going to your mums for a while, I would not cope without the support of my mum- hope you rest up well.

I am going to go and join Weight watchers today- I am 30 next year and feel like I need to enter the next decade fit and thin- I also saw the Dr today and got a referral to see a surgeon about a tummy tuck- Goodbye stetchmarks and saggy skin!:yelclap: My baby making days are over so it is now time to give something back to myself.... atleast thats how I justify it!- lol:laughing:

rubyrags

17-04-2008, 12:19

Hi little freckle, both my closest girlfriends didnt even like their babies until they were about 6 months old, one really really resented the time her baby was taking out of her life etc and both didnt bond with them as babies at all. They both really LOVE their kids now and are awesome mums but in the early days they didnt, one of them used to feel really guilty about it and thought there was something wrong with her. Because they are both similiar to me I didnt expect that i would bond with Emma and it surprised me that I did. I happen to think whether you bond with your baby or not is fine and it is all just meant to be. I also think a lot of mums tell white lies about the whole motherhood thing and set others up with false expectations about a range of things, how many mums say that their baby doesnt cry? :laughing:
Wherever you are and however you feel is exactly right and the way it is supposed to be.

I thought the other day about the saying "have a GOOD cry" and how I dont do that, I tend to try not to and hold it in (little quiet polite tears that silently run down my cheeks) next time I feel like crying I am going to have a GREAT cry and let it out :yelclap: a really loud wet cry.

I took Emma into work yesterday for the guys to meet her, I didnt want to go in but I am so glad I did. MY DH sort of forced the issue with me and as always he knows best, man I love that guy :cloud9:

We use cloth nappies and disposable when we go out and sometimes of a night time, work bought me 3 months nappy wash as a present though so I dont know what I would be using if they hadnt bought that.

Emma is 4 weeks old today, where does the time go??? She gets weighed again next Tue but it still seems like she is growing like a weed :laughing:

:hugs: to all of us

2SPUNKRATZ

17-04-2008, 12:22

Ikis - can you recommend any cloth nappies. I want to switch over eventually. I just thought I'd find my feet first with everything else before going down that path. What is a good alternative for these disposable wipes too?
a great alternative to wipes is cotton buds with water. they are so gentle.or you can use a face washer each time with water and just throw that in the wash wit the dirty nappy. :)

Went to town today for out first solo trip. Never again. Karjarna was fed and changed before we left she slept on the way to town (bout 20min) and the second she was in the pram she started to cry. I gave her a top up and changed her again and she settled for about 10min then started again. Couldnt get her happy so after spending an hour in town I came home without getting anything I wanted. Sorry to get on here and winge but i think there is something wrong with me. Reading all your posts everyone seems happy with their bubs even with feeding and sleeping problems. Karjarna is a fairly good bub she doesnt scream all day, feeds no probs and even sleeps 3-4hours at night. I came home from town and layed on the couch and bawled. Seem to do that most days now. I love her no worries but dont feel connected to her. If she cries i go to her and give her anything she wants but it feel more like its cause I have too not cause I feel that mothering urge too. DH doesnt get it. Feel trapped here. He just expects me to get on with it regardless. Might just be being stupid but if someone told me that id feel this way but being a mother i dont think I would have had her. anyway she wants a feed better go. Will see if she will have a sleep after might have one too might help
Take care all x x

hey babe. you so gotta get yourself a sling. greatest inventions i say. as ofr the feeling on disconnection from bub. i know that feeling. i dont have it this time. but with DS i did and it was horrible. i had bad thoughts about him, didnt like him even. but after time and a change of diet i started bonding well with him. i to thought maybe i wouldnt have had him if i knew it would feel that way. but im so glad i did. it takes time hunnny. but you will get there. if you want to talk you can PM me or im on msn jess23aus@hotmail.com
i am always there to talk.
much love

jess

2SPUNKRATZ

17-04-2008, 12:33

Blake even made his first sound to DH the other day when I was in the shower. However I feel like as soon as I try to play with Blake - he just wants more boob.

omg, i wondered if anyone else felt that way. all Aaliyah wants from me is to snuggle against my breast and drink from it to. other than that, she only wants to talk and give smiles to other people.

bellalika

17-04-2008, 17:00

We use cloth nappies, the squares that you have to fold yourself, not the pre-made. Have had a few 'leakage' issues. We are also using disposables when we go out (and on a few nights when I'm beyond tired and lazy).

It is easy to dispose of poo using liners. I've found that the johnson's ones are good at keeping moisure of DS skin. When he gets onto solids, I've been recommended to try the biodegradable (and flushable) ones called 'eenies'. Apparently a much more parent friendly way of dealing with solids poo.

With disposables, I find Joey disposables work well. I get them from a nappy supply store near home. They work out about 1/3 the price of huggies and work just as well in my opinion.

sarbear31 - glad to hear the nappy rash is clearing up. A friend tried everything to heal her son's, but it turned out he was allergic to the wipes, no matter what brand or type. Her life now involves a lot of cotton balls and water, but baby's bum is much better as a result.

InSaneOne

17-04-2008, 20:53

sorry i missed the clothies call.

but we use cloth too :smiliedance:. i use flats at home and save the sposies for when we go out and at night time. a lovely bubhubber recently made me 3 fleece pockets (:wave:faeml) and i just love them. i brought some fleece today and i am planning on asking her to show me how to make more.

i just use disposbale wipes as i find them easier but i will try to use cloth wipes in a few weeks when i get a bit more organised. i used cloth wipes with beth in the first few months that she was in cloth and then i just got lazy and went sposie. for the wipes i just cut up some of the larger facewashers that i got from best and less into 4th's (quarters) and found they were great for breastfed poops - not so much the stinky solid food/formula poops tho. i had to use a double layer as she got older.

Two To Be Three

18-04-2008, 11:11

well catlin is sleeping alot beta now and she getting over whateva she had as she is feeding beta aswell
she slept from 6 last night till 3.37 this morning

well im off to wash some more clothes and do some house work b4 she awakes

chat soon
love Catlin's Mumma

3Divas&me

18-04-2008, 13:24

A bit quiet in here today ladies?

Freezing outside- too scared to go and hang the washing out.

hayleylea

18-04-2008, 16:52

hi everyone..

been awhile since ive posted here - been busy.

All is good this end. Shelley slept from 9-5 last night so im very pleased! she still has only been waking once a night apart from last night - she is a good little sleeper.

Anyway will be back soon!

3Divas&me

18-04-2008, 18:47

Still very quiet.....

What an amazing sleep Hayleylea- wanna swap bubs for a while?? Phoebe feeds a few times a night atm- but think it is due to my laziness as she wakes, feeds til she falls asleep- so not filling her up to sustain her for a long period.

Better go get Bridget ready for bed- she is so tired she is falling all over the place- oh and need to remember to play tooth fairy for dd1 tonight- we forgot all about it last night and she was most upset this morning when she checked to see if the tooth fairy had been, and found she hadn't.

hayleylea

18-04-2008, 19:02

yeah it was a great sleep! She is playing up this afternoon though so i dont think ill be so lucky tonight.

Oh how cute playing tooth fairy - dont forget tonight - dont want her to loose faith in the tooth fairy! lol

Anyway gotta go Shelleys awake again..

night guys

Ruby_Slippers

18-04-2008, 19:24

Yeah - finished the magazine. :yelclap:

Now all my free time with Tilda. Did a massive clean up today as house was being neglected but to my deadline ... wondering around the house today wondering what to do with myself while Matilada asleep (Im sure that novelty will wear off quickly).

Immunisation tomorrow ... has anyone else had their needles yet? maybe not as Matilda was one of the first march bubs born (an unexpected 11 days early).

I'll let you know how it goes.

Went shopping and bought MORE cute outfits. I really shouldn't be buying her any more cloths, just can't help it. Have to hide from DP and sometimes I say it was a present (naughty mummy) :goodvibes:

hayleylea

18-04-2008, 19:41

goodluck with the immunisation tommorrow moostar! And well done finishing your mag! Its hard to resist cute outfits isnt it! Ive ggot soooooooooooooo many nice clothes for Shelley - most of them were gifts im just hoping she gets into them all before she grows out of them...

No needles here..we have ours next week..

Anyway gotta go. Shelley is very unsettled tonight. Im going to try feeding her one more time and put her to bed and then leave her with Daddy if she gets up (we do this most nights - she usually wakes up a little after she has gone down for the night and Trent settles her - good daddy! and lets me get some rest :D)

Anyway better go.

chrissy m

18-04-2008, 20:17

hello hello all ..........my boys are sleeping :smiliedance:thay sleep for about 4hrs at a time so i have done some house work and now on talking to you ...... so how is everyone and the babys ??????? my boys are doing so well isaiah is 5.1kgs and thomas is 4.3kgs and thay are 7 weeks old where dose the time go !!!!!! i have been sick with a bad cold and my ds has as well but we are getting better now (he is soon to be 2 years old :()

the babys room is just about all done still a bit more to do well thats about all for now i will try to get back on soon

THOMAS (LEFT) AND ISAIAH (RIGHT)
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg104/CHR04/marco058.jpg

ME-24 SOON TO BE 25
DH-30
DD-6
DS-23M SOON TO BE 2
TWINS -7 WEEKS OLD

hayleylea

19-04-2008, 06:29

YAY she did it again - 9-5!

Chrissy - your twins are doing very well! i hope you and your DS get better soon! Your twins are gorgeous!

sarbear31

19-04-2008, 07:43

Morning everyone.

Hayleylea - You lucky thing you. Thats an amazing sleep! Is Shelly on breast or bottle? The best I can get out of Cameron at the moment is 9-3 which is still nothing to complain about! Its so nice to get a good block of sleep isint it.

Chrissy - your twins are so beautiful! I think you are doing an amazing job getting them to sleep at the same time for 4 hours. My cousin just had twin boys on Sunday. They have a 2 year old son too so now they have 3 boys under 2!

Moostar - welcome back to the world. You must be sop relieved that your deadline is over. Now you will just be able to enjoy being a mummy. I know what you mean about getting a bit board when bubs is sleeping. Thats when bubhub comes in handy.

Livies Mum - I have forgotten to be toothfairy once too. I told my son that sometimes the toothfairy gets too busy on the otherside of the world but if that happens you get more money the next night (I felt so bad I gave him $5) so he was happy with that!

I am so happy its saturday - so nice not to wake Cameron up to take the big boys to school.
We have got a work dinner for DH's work tonight. It will be Camerons first time in a restaurant. All the ladies from his work are so excited to have cuddles (with the baby not DH) I am a little worried though because sometimes between 7 and 9 He likes to feed a lot so I am hoping I dont get any of the "oh is he hungry again?" comments from people. Any ideas on what to say if I do?

Jules16

19-04-2008, 09:44

Hi Ladies

Thanks for the tips re the wipes! Face washers sound like a good idea. Although I can imagine you'd need loads of them!! Cotton balls sound like a bit of a nightmare though as I'm sure I'd go through heaps of those after each poo aswell!

Hayleylea - wow that is a very long sleep! Woohoo! I'm not getting much sleep at the moment. Blake keeps falling asleep during his feeds and naughty mum doesn't encourage bigger feeds as she herself is falling asleep. I need to change that I think.

LiviesMum - yep I do exactly that with Blake - let him go down as soon as he falls asleep on the boob.

chrissym - your boys are gorgeous!!

I went to a feeding clinic yesterday at the hospital where Blake was born and they think the reason for Blake's fussiness on the breast is due to him having reflux. At least I know now as I was ready to give up b/feeding earlier in the week as it was getting way too stressful.

hayleylea

19-04-2008, 10:30

sarbear - Shelley is on the breast. She was doing 9-3 since she was about 1.5 weeks old. The last 2 nights she has done the 9-5 im hoping its a routine she has herself into - b ut i know not to hold my breath cause they sleeping habits change all the time lol
The comments "oh is he hungry again" - not sure what you can say, most people that have had bubs will understand that most babies have that feeding period. You might find though because your out and there are lots of people to cuddle cameron that he might not feed as much. Goodluck - have a nice time.

Morganj - atleast you know the fussiness is due his reflux and nothing more.

Im actually having a tough time with one aspect of breastfeeding - i cant work out a great position to hold Shelley. I have rather large boobs and find it hard to just hold her and find myself supporting my breast for her aswell as holding her (hard to explain). my goal is 3 months - so far im happy with the way she is feeding though so may go for longer - just wish i could find a comfy position - im trying!!!

Anyway she is awake lying on the floor with Cooper, and im cooking a carrot cake so i better go check on it.