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Hi
Some of you may recall last August I started a thread about applying to a local Montessori Pre School.
Their immunisation policy states that they will not enrol children without proof of immunisation in accordance with the Immunisation Schedule. Opinion on here was that they cant discriminate against you. When I applied I included a copy of the CO form and was told it wouldnt be a problem.
Yesterday I received a letter from the centre returning my deposit and stating that in order to be enrolled at their centre she must be immunised in compliance with their policy. Apparently they have an obligation to the parents, children, babies and staff at our centre to provide a safe workplace.
Last night I emailed Vacinnation Information SA and advised them of the above
They replied:
No worries xxxx, I’ve heard this before many times. They would lose if challenged because it is against the constitution.
Glad you got a refund! Technically you can’t be discriminated against but private bodies are getting away with this until it is challenged.
Not helpful I’m afraid .. If it was Montessori they have an aggressive policy and many people have come up against it. Others will accept medical exemption.
Thankfully we had already decided that this centre wasnt for us or or daughter, so to receive the deposit back is a bonus. However, I just wanted to post this as a warning to other non-vaxers. How unfair that they can get away with this. How many of us can afford to fight them if we are desparate for our child to attend one of their centres.
I really dont get how my non-immunised child can be a risk to others. Surely she would only be a risk to another non-immunised child/person?
I think I'm still in shock.
I am going down there this morning as they have made the cheque out in the wrong name so I will be interested to see what they say to me in person. They are fairly rude (the reason we decided against the centre) so it should be fun:yes:
reAllytee
18-03-2008, 09:08
That is so wrong !
Yes they have an obligation but WTH ?!?!?!
What about my child who cant be vaxxed due to allergies etc ?!?!?!
What they want me to vax him just so he can 'fit' in .... Pffffft :mad:
kiwibird27
18-03-2008, 09:09
I think they are mis-interpreting the info they have, Non immunised children must be excluded unless they have a letter from the doctor saying they have been notified of the risk,You also need that to clain CCB, they must also be excluded if a public outbreak of one of the immunised viruses is declared.
That is so wrong !
Yes they have an obligation but WTH ?!?!?!
What about my child who cant be vaxxed due to allergies etc ?!?!?!
What they want me to vax him just so he can 'fit' in .... Pffffft :mad:
Exactly what I thought of Allyoo and I will ask them that when I am there. They have no idea why dd isnt vaxed or how many vax she dosent have. They just wrote me a $hitty letter. Not even the decency to call when I have been on their waiting list since August and have spoken to them three times to see where abouts on the list she is.
Their attitude sucks and thats why we changed our mind about them:thumbsdown:
I think it is funny... if vacinations actually offered the protection people think, then there wouldn't be a problem exposing vacinated children to non-vacinated children.
Stupid!
And totally wrong that they can get away with discriminating like that. Today tonight anyone?
reAllytee
18-03-2008, 09:14
Exactly what I thought of Allyoo and I will ask them that when I am there. They have no idea why dd isnt vaxed or how many vax she dosent have. They just wrote me a $hitty letter. Not even the decency to call when I have been on their waiting list since August and have spoken to them three times to see where abouts on the list she is.
Their attitude sucks and thats why we changed our mind about them:thumbsdown:
They obviously think because they are 'Montessori' that they are better :rolleyes:
Please note im not saying all are like this !!! Its just there are now many jumping on this bandwagon & they certainly arent very 'Montessori'.
So glad that Boof goes to our council occasional care ! They have no issues with it if i decide to put Squeak in with all his issues & they are wonderful ! Most are older ladies so they are like extra grandma's to the kids !!!!
PunkyDiva
18-03-2008, 09:14
:hugs: Glad you don't really want to go there anyway but not nice when you have made a huge decision like that for your child's health.
Sure it will continue to happen until someone has the determination to legally challenge them and other centres with similiar policies.
I have heard that private schools have a strict immunisation policy, but some public schools do to in some states, maybe contact someone within the private school board.
They probably think they are complying with the opinion of the 'majority' of parents who would prefer to not have non-vaxed kids mixing with their vaxed kids.
I think they would be surprised if they actually spoke to the parents of the kids and discovered that the opposite were true.
While my DS1 and DS2 are both up to date with their vaccinations, this is my personal choice, and I certainly wouldn't even think to segregate them from non-vaxers - it just seems ludicrous for it to happen still.
I am glad you had already made the decision to go elsewhere - and am sorry that I am sure it's yet again you are subjected to harsh judgement because of this.
I think they are mis-interpreting the info they have, Non immunised children must be excluded unless they have a letter from the doctor saying they have been notified of the risk,You also need that to clain CCB, they must also be excluded if a public outbreak of one of the immunised viruses is declared.
Maybe deliberately mis-interpreting it :rolleyes: I like the fact that on the bottom of their immunisation policy which they included with the letter they now have a legal reference with a telephone number. They must be expecting trouble.
Seriously though what would I do if I really wanted her to go there? We cant afford a legal challenge and that must be what they bank only. If only DH was a lawyer then I'd take it further just to give them a headache :devil: Or I guess I would just have to be bullied into getting her immunised:banghead:
ikis84- thats what I dont get. If your child has had the vax's why is mine who hasnt had some of them a risk to them? Dosent make sense to me:hair:
I had better double check that the kindy we have got her down for arnt going to make an issue out of it.
Nanny State, Nanny State. In the UK they dont even ask
kiwibird27
18-03-2008, 09:33
I guess it's called private child care for a reason though. If Catholic schools can discriminate on the basis of religion why can't child care on the basis of immunisation???
The government also makes it VERY clear they support vaccination.
prideNJoy
18-03-2008, 09:44
@!#$%*&^&%#@%$ (!#$%*&^&%#@%$) !!!!! I'm sorry, i don't have anything constructive to say. Just wanted to express my frustration for you. :mad:
moonblossom
18-03-2008, 09:53
Well this doesn't surprise me. My son wasn't accepted into a private catholic school unless he was baptised, well I fought and won, he got in, but I pulled in him out after a year, terrible school. I paid for the best, got the worst. You might thank your lucky stars.
Umm and about immunisations...doesn't that protect imminised children from non immunised children? Who is at threat here, even if the threats do actually exist?
Non Vac children are more at risk from Vac'ed children when they are freshly immunised.
And Kiwi...the government support a lot of things I dont, the war in iraq, immunisations, doing nothing while people lose their houses, the list could go on and on, but do I support that too just because THE GOVERNMENT does...HELL NO!
iF YOU wanted to fight this, you WILL win, but would you really want your child to go there? My children go to private schools, and they are wonderful without all their stupid religious and immunisation rules.
I'm sure you will find a much better school for your child to go too. :smiliedance:
KarniF00l
18-03-2008, 09:58
Absurd! I am relieved for you that your little one didn't get in, they sound like complete and utter imbeciles.
The government also makes it VERY clear they support vaccination.
That doesn't mean that everyone else has to follow suite and support vaccinations. The government is not always right.
OT - Lets take the American government for an example, finally admitting that there is in fact a link between vaccinations and Autism. When is the Australian government going to admit it ? Probably never because they don't want to incriminate themselves.
Fuchsia!
18-03-2008, 10:11
I think it is funny... if vacinations actually offered the protection people think, then there wouldn't be a problem exposing vacinated children to non-vacinated children.
Stupid!
And totally wrong that they can get away with discriminating like that. Today tonight anyone?
I know? I don't get it either!!
That's craaaaaaazy:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
kiwibird27
18-03-2008, 10:21
It's the non- vaxers they are trying to protect cause it's all about communal diseases, I think the governemt is trying to ensure non-vaxers are just well - informed about their decision not to vax, thats why non- vaxers have to prove they have sought advice about it before they get CCB. Right or wrong thats how it is.
I don't agree with what this centre is doing, they have mis-interprted the regulations to there own advantage, we shouldn't discriminate against anyone, just saying there are lots of things that are discriminated against in the school system.
To be honest I used to put people I knew would be likely to run up huge debts at the Child care I ran, at the bottom of the wait list. Private operators can get away with alot of stuff, usually they are clever enough to hide it better.
I don't want to have a "to vax or not to Vax" debate about this cause my views follow the majority, just saying Discrimination happens alot, u just gotta fight for what u believe in especially when it's contraversal like this topic!!
thats why non- vaxers have to prove they have sought advice about it before they get CCB.
Absolutely, we should all make informed decisions....IMO vaxxers should also have to prove they have looked into the ingredients, origins, side effects, long term effects and statistics of vaccinations too!:eek::raspberry:
KarniF00l
18-03-2008, 10:32
Absolutely, we should all make informed decisions....IMO vaxxers should also have to prove they have looked into the ingredients, origins, side effects, long term effects and statistics of vaccinations too!:eek::raspberry:
My thoughts exactly Katie! :thumbsup:
My thoughts exactly Katie!
:thumbsup:
kiwibird27
18-03-2008, 10:35
Absolutely, we should all make informed decisions....IMO vaxxers should also have to prove they have looked into the ingredients, origins, side effects, long term effects and statistics of vaccinations too!:eek::raspberry:
Like i said don't want to debate vax versus non vax, we differ in opinion too much. It's just how it is, to facilitate change the government has to be challenged!!!
All I will say is in my childs case a dose of chickenpox would actually kill her,( due to her medical conditions) so I chose to take the risk.
All I will say is in my childs case a dose of chickenpox would actually kill her,( due to her medical conditions) so I chose to take the risk.
Absolutely, of course you would:)
missie_mack
18-03-2008, 10:53
Luckily for them it was you not I. Actually I find it a bit strange that they asked for your immunisation records to be put on their waitlist :confused:
Like others have said there are many reasons why people don't immunise. Members of the Church of Christ dont practice immunisation as well as those that have health concerns. While I personally have many questions about immunisation my main reason for not fully immunising was due to health concerns. I would have thought that discriminating based on medical records was against anti discrimination laws but SA state laws are a little short on what they cover :thumbsdown:
If it were me I would be doing a little research and writing a letter back objecting to their reasonings
Have you by any chance contact VISA (vaccine information south australia) I remember at one stage they had a letter going out to childcare places about discriminating against non immunised children
Hi
missie_mack-it was VISA who I quoted a few pages back, I emailed them yesterday.
Well I went down there, cheque in hand as it was made out to me with the incorrect name on it.
I spoke to the woman who had written to me:D She was apologetic especially when I named and shamed the staff member who had misled me in the first place. I asked her what they did about children who are not vaccinated due to medical reasons her response, "we dont have that problem here" WTF:hair:
I told her that I had been advised that should I take the matter further I would win as they are not allowed to discriminate and that I would be considering my options. In the meantime I would like my cheque thanks very much:D At this point I dont think she could wait to get rid of me.
kiwibird27- I dont want this to turn into a vax, non-vax debate either. I just wanted to inform other non-vaxers of the problem I had encountered. Its all very well us advising each other that they cant discriminate if the reality is they can unless we fight it.
I really wonder why they have started this policy? Like others have said I just dont get it. If my daughter catches Chickenpox (yes please) and your child has had the immunisation then your child should be fine? (Not picking on you Kiwibird at all, its just one of the ones I havent vaxed dd for and wont until they develop a vaccine that will provide longer last immunity).
We seem to have a HUGE schedule of vaccines in this county. A lot more than the UK and a lot of them I really dont agree with. IMO its just the greedy drug companies packaging vaccines together so they can get more of a share of the market.
:hair: I wish I had legal expenses cover as I would take this further just to cause them some grief.
twotrunks
18-03-2008, 12:20
OT - Lets take the American government for an example, finally admitting that there is in fact a link between vaccinations and Autism. When is the Australian government going to admit it ? Probably never because they don't want to incriminate themselves
I know this is off topic, but had to jump in here... the American Government has admitted the possibility of a link between certain ingredients in vaccines and autism, where a pre-disposition already existed. The additive discussed was Thiomersal which was contained in vaccines in the past. It is no longer contained in the standard vaccines recommended for children in Australia. It is, however, still present in some adult vaccines (see: http://www.ncirs.usyd.edu.au/facts/f-thiomersal.html#8 for a list). I know this is jsut one VERY small factor in the decision to not vaccinate, but thought that people should have the facts.
As far as the discrimination goes, the Montessori school doesn't sound like one that you would want your children at, so I'm sure you are glad to have found this out before sending them there.:)
TT
missie_mack
18-03-2008, 12:28
Really what sucks is that SA anti discrimination laws hardly cover anything (and they know it!) They have been looking into extending them for sometime but to my knowledge nothing has changed :thumbsdown:
Fortunately for me living in NSW if I was presented with the same problem. The anti discrimination laws clearly state the only time they can refuse service is
If there is an outbreak of an infectious disease (eg whooping cough or measles) in a day care centre, pre-school, or primary school, the organisation’s director or principal can be instructed by the Public Health Unit to exclude an unimmunised child for the duration of the outbreak.
being covered under this means that the Anti Discrimination Board will investigate a complaint and mediate. If the problem cant be resolved they then forward it on the Administrative Decisions Tribunals section for Anti Discrimination which acts as a court to rule on these matters.....
Perhaps you should write to your local state MP outlining the situation, their response and complain that state anti discrimination laws arent comprehensive enough. I spose enough complaints about this type of discrimination might lead to some action coming forward- especially the same discrimination effects those who actually have diseases as well as those simply not immunised against possibly getting them :)
missie_mack
18-03-2008, 12:34
The additive discussed was Thiomersal which was contained in vaccines in the past. It is no longer contained in the standard vaccines recommended for children in Australia.
I dont think that is actually correct twotrunks. The australian medical journal has information that contradicts this and shows that thiomersal is in childrens immunisations still. As of Feb 2006 it was still contained in at least 5 immunisations including the Hep B vax they give newborns Engerix- B (Paediatric)
twotrunks
18-03-2008, 13:03
I dont think that is actually correct twotrunks. The australian medical journal has information that contradicts this and shows that thiomersal is in childrens immunisations still. As of Feb 2006 it was still contained in at least 5 immunisations including the Hep B vax they give newborns Engerix- B (Paediatric)
This might be one of those tricky ones... my information was that it was no longer present. From the Medical Journal of Australia: "To minimise any potential risk, all vaccinations in the Australian Standard Vaccination Schedule for children younger than 5 years are now thiomersal-free or contain only trace amounts" (http://mja.com.au/public/issues/184_04_200206/eld10500_fm.html#0_i1092414)
Perhaps the confusion is with the "Trace amounts" part... which technically would mean thiomersal is there.
For my part I am satisfied that the particular vaccines which my children have received have not had thiomersal in them, so I am happy!:) It might be worth people noting that there are different brands of vaccines and they do have the right to choose... so if your research recommends agaisnt a particular brand eg. Engerix-B, you could ask for another eg. H-B-Vax II (preservative free).
TT
Really what sucks is that SA anti discrimination laws hardly cover anything (and they know it!) They have been looking into extending them for sometime but to my knowledge nothing has changed :thumbsdown:
Fortunately for me living in NSW if I was presented with the same problem. The anti discrimination laws clearly state the only time they can refuse service is
being covered under this means that the Anti Discrimination Board will investigate a complaint and mediate. If the problem cant be resolved they then forward it on the Administrative Decisions Tribunals section for Anti Discrimination which acts as a court to rule on these matters.....
Perhaps you should write to your local state MP outlining the situation, their response and complain that state anti discrimination laws arent comprehensive enough. I spose enough complaints about this type of discrimination might lead to some action coming forward- especially the same discrimination effects those who actually have diseases as well as those simply not immunised against possibly getting them :)
I might just do that thanks. I dont feel like just sitting back and doing nothing as it seems so wrong.
sunnyflower
18-03-2008, 16:28
I sort of disagree with all of you.
I think as a private school,they have the right to accept/accept any students they want to based on their policies.
You have a right not to vax,they have a right to refuse your child admission based on their own policies.They are a private enterprise.They can do what they want.Same as catholic schools,they want their students to be babtised catholics,that's fair enough,they are CATHOLIC schools.
Really if you don't like it ,send your child to a school that has policies that you agree with.It's really quite simple.
I don't think it is that simply, sunnyflower. A RELIGIOUS school, expecting certain religious commitments is very different to any childcare/school discriminating on the grounds of immunisation status. Same as it's not okay for them to discriminate against disablilty or sex, it's not okay to discriminate in this way.
forbetoel
18-03-2008, 18:02
I think that as private school they have the right to enforce any policies that they like. I know at my kids schools there are alot of rules and regulations that you wouldn't find at the local public school.
Hi sorry if this is a silly question, but I come from a family where we vaccinate and I was just wondering why parents choose not to vaccinate their children.
Is is because of reactions to the vacc, allergies?
I know that vaccinations can prevent death and complications from conditions such as TB, Rubella, measles and mumps, I just don't understand the reasons for not wanted to vaccinate.
I am not having a go at anyone, i would really like to understand and perhaps when I have my own children I might make a different choice.
Hi sorry if this is a silly question, but I come from a family where we vaccinate and I was just wondering why parents choose not to vaccinate their children.
Is is because of reactions to the vacc, allergies?
I know that vaccinations can prevent death and complications from conditions such as TB, Rubella, measles and mumps, I just don't understand the reasons for not wanted to vaccinate.
I am not having a go at anyone, i would really like to understand and perhaps when I have my own children I might make a different choice.
There are lots of threads on this if you have a look through the Immunisation section - look for the threads with a little lock next to them :laughing:
the_queen had her DD in a Montessori school in SA for a while, so it can't be all Montessori schools in SA that have this practice.
FWIW, I don't get the whole non-vaxing but I know if it was me in the same position then I would be bl00dy livid. I was knocked back from a Catholic school in the mid-80's because my family wasn't Catholic - it was the best thing that ever happened, the school that I went to was much better. I hope the situation works out to be the same for you.
There are lots of threads on this if you have a look through the Immunisation section - look for the threads with a little lock next to them :laughing:
Didn't find anything good that really outlined why to vacc and why not...
prideNJoy
18-03-2008, 19:52
Hi Singa
Hope these threads answer your questions. Arguments on both sides. :)
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=110121
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=32733
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=124508
ohhh look and none of those threads are locked either! ;) :D
I sort of disagree with all of you.
I think as a private school,they have the right to accept/accept any students they want to based on their policies.
You have a right not to vax,they have a right to refuse your child admission based on their own policies.They are a private enterprise.They can do what they want.Same as catholic schools,they want their students to be babtised catholics,that's fair enough,they are CATHOLIC schools.
Really if you don't like it ,send your child to a school that has policies that you agree with.It's really quite simple.
Even our local catholic school are prepared to bend their rules to accomodate children. Priority is given to those baptised as catholics but non-catholics are also considered.
What really annoys me was there was no effort to communicate with me about this and I was mislead in the first place. It has taken them seven months to throw this at me, yet I questioned it when submitting the application form and was told it wouldnt be a problem
Many parents are unable to vax due to allergies in their children why should they be discriminated against? Would it be ok if their rule stated that they will only accept children born to white australians? I think not.
I am a selective vaxer. I research each one and decide whether I think its in my childs best interest to have the vax.
I read somewhere that the highest proporition of non vaxers are doctors and nurses. Perhaps we are trained to question the medical profession and not just take what they say as gospel.
Even my g.p. recently told me that she wouldnt bother giving the Chickenpox Vax.
moonblossom
18-03-2008, 20:51
I am also a selective Vaccer...All of my children have been fully immunised, except my last. He has only had the first three shots...I have A LOAD of trouble trying to justify giving him the 12 month shot. I've looked into it...and because his father has ADD/ADHD, has depression etc...his mother directly contributed the change in his behaviour soon after having his shots...so WE CHOSE, AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, not to give this to Alexander.
Pro vaccers can argue with me till the cows come home, but they do not know my son, nor the background of his father...So anybody who says my son cannot attend because he isn't fully vacced will have one hell of a challenge on their hands.
PRO VACCERS...good on you, i hope you made informed choices just like i did.
NON VACCERS...good on your for making informed choices.
Each child, has to be assessed individually.
Gezzz did I get of topic LOL...sorry sometimes I go off on a tangent LOL :hugs:
Good for you Moonblossom :D
Really though how can you fight them without some sort of legal expenses insurance or a lawyer in the family? If I was keen for her to go there I would of course be kicking up a stink but I can imagine how costly and time consuming it would be.
I can just imagine them dragging it out for as long as possible by which stage dd would probably be too old for pre-school anyway:laughing:
:hair:
moonblossom
18-03-2008, 21:42
Yeah its easy for me to say you would win Maxie...and you would. Unfortunately is it worth it? Is this the type of school you would want your child in? If they descriminate agains non vacs...what else do they discrimate about?
My children are in private christian school, and i have nothing but praise for them. If you TRULY believe, this is the school you want your child to attend, then yes its worth the fight. If your doubting it, then BAH...let it go, someone else will fight them on this eventually.
Yeah its easy for me to say you would win Maxie...and you would. Unfortunately is it worth it? Is this the type of school you would want your child in? If they descriminate agains non vacs...what else do they discrimate about?
My children are in private christian school, and i have nothing but praise for them. If you TRULY believe, this is the school you want your child to attend, then yes its worth the fight. If your doubting it, then BAH...let it go, someone else will fight them on this eventually.
Luckily we had already decided we didnt want her to go there. I just had some bad vibes. Staff seemed very cold, the children all a bit too quiet and well behaved for my liking:laughing:
moonblossom
18-03-2008, 21:47
:yelclap:
:laughing: Which school is that again, might send mine there LOL :laughing:
reAllytee
18-03-2008, 21:47
Maxie - I would really look into it further.
Yes you cant afford a lawyer but what about VISA ? Do they know anyone who would help you out :detective:
Im sorry but just because they are a 'private' school they have no right to do this.
I would be furious if i couldnt get Squeak into a school based on this .... Its unfair !!!!!
Why should my child miss out on a school i really want him to go to because he cant be vaxx'ed ????
Bah !
How weird.
The CO form doesnt state what vaxes have been missed and a hell of a lot of parents who vax choose not to get the child vaxed for chicken pox. Since its on the schedule now that would mean that their vaxes aren't up to date.
So its not just the absolute non-vaxers that this would affect, its a lot of other people as well
How weird.
The CO form doesnt state what vaxes have been missed and a hell of a lot of parents who vax choose not to get the child vaxed for chicken pox. Since its on the schedule now that would mean that their vaxes aren't up to date.
So its not just the absolute non-vaxers that this would affect, its a lot of other people as well
Thats right and what annoyed me as well was that they didnt even bother to find out why she hasnt been vaccinated (i.e. is it allergy related), or what ones she has/hasnt had.
You have to provide a copy of the medicare form showing that theire immunisaton status is fully upto date with the schedule when you submit your application. If you dont have it then thats it your not getting in.
Trouble is this place is very popular 8 to 9 months wait is the norm so I guess they can afford to be selective.
Maxie - I would really look into it further.
Yes you cant afford a lawyer but what about VISA ? Do they know anyone who would help you out :detective:
Im sorry but just because they are a 'private' school they have no right to do this.
I would be furious if i couldnt get Squeak into a school based on this .... Its unfair !!!!!
Why should my child miss out on a school i really want him to go to because he cant be vaxx'ed ????
Bah !
To be honest Allyoo the response from VISA wasnt very promising. It sounded like lots of people have come up against this particularly with montessori who apparently have this aggressive policy.
I will email the lady back (she was going away for a couple of days) and asks who she thinks I could contact to make a bit of a stink.
:yelclap:
:laughing: Which school is that again, might send mine there LOL :laughing:
:laughing: exactly just the kind of enviroment my dd needs:devil:
Grrrr the whole thing really pees me off.
kiwibird27
19-03-2008, 09:12
Hi
kiwibird27- I dont want this to turn into a vax, non-vax debate either. I just wanted to inform other non-vaxers of the problem I had encountered. Its all very well us advising each other that they cant discriminate if the reality is they can unless we fight it.
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Totally agree, u have to fight 4 wot u believe in!!!!!
Hi Manxie,
My DS attends a Montessori school and below is what is stated for Immunisation;
"Good health is vital to school progress. Please check that your child has been immunised against diphtheria, hooping cough, poliomyelitis, measles and tetanus and that the booster injection is given before commencing school.
All children entering 3-6 Pre-school are required to present an immunisation certificate. Parents who choose not to have their child/children immunised should be aware that they may be excluded from the pre-school during any outbreak of an infectious disease."
Our school policy states that they may be excluded if they have outbreak .
You could ring the Montessori association of Aust and bring this to their attention. Point out discrimination. It may not help your situation if you choose not to attend this particular Montessori school, but it may help others down the track, who wish to send a Non-Vaxed child/children to this school.
But it also depends how serious you are about the school and I wonder how other schools would react in the same situation and what there policies are.
Gracie
bindiloo
19-03-2008, 09:42
I wouldnt want my child going there anyways they sound like uneducated fools and id be soooooooooo interested to know how many kids get things and are sick etc, because if it has stricly no non-vaxed kids then they cant complain that it is the non-vaxed spreading things like cp and flu's around their precious preschool can they so how would they explain that. Im sure theyd still blame us some how though.
:laughing:
Hi Manxie,
My DS attends a Montessori school and below is what is stated for Immunisation;
"Good health is vital to school progress. Please check that your child has been immunised against diphtheria, hooping cough, poliomyelitis, measles and tetanus and that the booster injection is given before commencing school.
All children entering 3-6 Pre-school are required to present an immunisation certificate. Parents who choose not to have their child/children immunised should be aware that they may be excluded from the pre-school during any outbreak of an infectious disease."
Our school policy states that they may be excluded if they have outbreak .
You could ring the Montessori association of Aust and bring this to their attention. Point out discrimination. It may not help your situation if you choose not to attend this particular Montessori school, but it may help others down the track, who wish to send a Non-Vaxed child/children to this school.
But it also depends how serious you are about the school and I wonder how other schools would react in the same situation and what there policies are.
Gracie
See I could live with that. I am totally prepared for DD to be excluded during an outbreak. The only ones she hasnt had under that list are measles and not sure about tetanus (is that part of the schedule?)
melodious
23-03-2008, 12:44
it's just to scare people into vaccinating. and to make the parents of vaccinated kids feel better about jabbing there bubs with needles
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