Trained at one year?

[lukaelmo]

In "The Baby Whisperer", Tracey suggests starting toilet training at 9 months. Now before you all top yourselves laughing, she says to hold them over the toilet 20 mins after a milk feed, every single time, and by one year, they will have a good idea of what it's all about.

Now I am just a humble mummy of an 8 month old, and of course, would love to have the dude out of daytime nappies by one :eek: .

Has anyone tried this? Does everyone think I am out of my mind for even thinking it could work? :laughing:

[busylizzy]

My mum reckons she started toilet training me at 3mths!!! I thought I would start toilet training DS just before he turned one but he is way too spirited to stay still for 20 seconds let alone 20 minutes. So I think I'm going to wait a while. But I reckon if you've got the time & patience why not give it a go.
Liz.

[bronny-jane]

i was toilet trained at 13 months, though i had older siblings and have always had a rivilry thing with my brother, and apparently i stood up to wee:D

[Goosie22]

I dont think you are out of your mind you are just reading her suggestions, she on the other hand :rolleyes: .

You can start trying to get them to associate doing a wee or poo so they realise what is going on, But they will get the idea by themselves and why waste all your time and effort :banghead: how many people never realise how to go to the toliet?

We all seem to work it out eventually.

[jarrahsmumma]

Two words: Elimination Communication....

http://www.freewebz.com/freetoec/index.htm

[lukaelmo]

and apparently i stood up to wee:D

Now that, if caught on video, is the sort of thing that wins you $250 000 on TV... Well done :laughing: .

[veve]

I just wanted to chime in with a loud sigh of disappointment.. :shame:

ali - this is YOUR thread... AND it is about poo...

why the dull title... ??
:confused:

shame shame shame... :laughing:

[bronny-jane]

Now that, if caught on video, is the sort of thing that wins you $250 000 on TV... Well done :laughing: .

$250 000:eek: im sure i could still do it:p

[veve]

$250 000:eek: im sure i could still do it:p

ROFL!!!!!! oh dear :laughing: :laughing:

[pumpkin]

my 3 girls were trained by 13 months each they let me know by pulling at their nappies when they needed to be shown where the potty was and what it was for. we had no dramas in the toilet training dept.

mind you i know of someone who still has a nappy on their 4.5 year old( too long as far as i'm conceerned)

[giggles]

I can't recall that in the book but probably read it when Ava was brand new and being the numbnut I was didn't think anything of it :D

I think Tracey Hogg is pretty switched on, well most of her theories worked in this house anyway!

I dunno.......I will read on in interest!

[nemosmum]

If you have the time and the much needed patience lol I say give it a go:thumbsup:

For me however I just didnt have the time or the desire, I put off TT DS even when he showed signs he was ready because I was petrified LOL I tt other peoples children all the time but with my own it made me cringe (dont ask me why:o )

DS was about 14months when he showed signs he was ready, now at 20 months he does number twos fine but number ones he still has trouble holding on to them (but hey that ok)

Good luck with what ever you decide:fingerscrossed:

[justme]

Hi there,
I also read that and tried starting to toilet train at 9mths. It is hard work!! Not only do you have to do the preparing food, feeding them, cleaning up, but you also have to then put them on the toilet! I tried for a little while with only one success - a flukey poo in the loo when I caught him going red and plonked him on the toilet to catch it.
It seemed like too much work for v. little success in making him conscious of when he was weeing or pooing. I've decided that it's easier for us to wait until he can verbalise or indicate when he needs to go (so that he's aware of it, rather than us just watching for his signs and 'catching').
We still keep talking about weeing and pooing and 'familiarising' him with the toilet and what you do there!
Good luck with whatever you decide.

[sugar n spice]

I read that you can start toilet training from about 10mnths but it is more that you are training yourselves to their schedule. i found with my first who only now at 4 is tt. that when he was younger he sort of had a pattern of doing a pooh in the morning so it would prob have been good if i worked on that routine then but at the same time as they get older there routine or schedule, however you like to put it changes. so you etiher train yourselve to there time or toilet train when they can comprehend it all

[Sarie]

We originally started training Nat at 18 months, with PJ's birth, winter coming and moving as well we ended up giving up for the time being and started again as soon as the weather warmed up. He was around 29 months and he picked it up within a month and he's only wet the bed twice at night and that was recently after he had bad dreams each time.
We are planing to start PJ soon, he has a horrid habit of pooing in the bath so we have the potty beside the bath and as soon as we see the tell tale signs we pull him out of the bath and put him on the potty.
See how he goes, I'm not going to put any presure on him to be trained by any particular age, but I'll give it a go to get him out of nappies before #3 comes along.:)

[CJJHRA]

Well, they used to do it years ago didnt they. Mum said all of us kids were out of nappies by 15months at the latest.

Yes its hard work, and first you need to train yourself to take them all the time, and if you got older children too, not easy

[shed]

I think I will just go with the natural progression of things when the time comes, rather than being a "poo catcher" which is basically what you're doing if they're not ready. Keep it short and sweet I say and the more ready they are the shorter and sweeter the whole process will be.

good luck and keep us updated.

[kiwibird27]

Do those of you who used cloth nappies have early toilet trained children???? I have a theory - children who wear cloth - because they feel when they are wet - naturally toilet train earlier than disposible kids!!!!!????????

Oh is the baby whisperer toilet training or just getting lucky???? They need to be physically ready or else there are problems!!!!!!!!

[elissas]

Hi kiwibird,

I agree with you. I believe that the disposable nappy empire has caused the average tt age out another year or 2 on top of what it used to be.

Children also develop strong associations very quickly. So while they're in nappies they have the association that it's ok to poo or wee in their pants. I reckon the sooner you get onto it the easier it is to break the association, and tell them that it's not ok.

I just keep putting myself in their shoes - here are their parents who are teaching them everthing about the world, they have to trust us. Then when they get to 2 or 3, we start telling them that what we originally told them is untrue? I reckon that's what the trauma is.

I'll be trying to tt DS early - going to start doing part time elimination communication in the next couple of months, as I've been tracking his patterns. I already try to make a "YUCKY" performance when changing his nappy, so that he knows it's not nice to do it in his "pants". I also try to change him the second he does poos, and change his wet nappies early, so that he doesn't get used to the feeling of sitting in his filth. He certainly lets me know now the minute he feels it.

[lukaelmo]

I can't recall that in the book but probably read it when Ava was brand new and being the numbnut I was didn't think anything of it :D


Hey Justcooked, it was actually in the second book - "Baby Whisperer Solves All Your Problems". What a title hey :eek: .

All of you seem to be talking about poos, but in fact I took her advice (of popping bubba on the toilet 20mins after drinking) to be about weeing... But then I do have no idea about tting and could be wrong. The dude hardly ever poos anyway, trying to spot one coming would be like sighting the dodo or equivalent :laughing: .

I do agree that posies hold off the tt (Veve will love hearing that :laughing: ), I think my mum said my bother and I were tt by about 15 months...

I certainly don't want to pressure the dude into tt though - I would never want to do something like that. Popping him onto a potty from 9 months regularly isn't pressure is it? I am not going to get angry if he doesn't do anything, just praise him if he does. That is the right way to go about it isn't it?

[veve]

(I'm not going to be a smug clothie in this thread ali... so :p )

- my mum sat us on the potty earlyish... she just gave us books to read... we would sit there for AGES... we loved books

then just heap on the praise (applause is fantastic- I SOOOO want to be there with video camera in hand when you jump up and down - clapping and screaming 'Yay Luka - you did a big wee wees... such a clever boy' :laughing: oh dear... there is NO dignity in being a mummy :laughing: )

I"m keen to start Jack pretty early - I can tell 9 times out of 10 when there is a smelly surprise on its way... he just cant sit up enough yet to use a potty!!!! (poor kids IS only 4 months old :laughing: )

xxx

[CJJHRA]

I certainly don't want to pressure the dude into tt though - I would never want to do something like that. Popping him onto a potty from 9 months regularly isn't pressure is it? I am not going to get angry if he doesn't do anything, just praise him if he does. That is the right way to go about it isn't it?

I think you still need to introduce kids to the idea of the toilet, thats not pressure, just letting them know what eventually needs to be done. I think the first few times is just luck that you get them to do anything, after that they start to pick up thats what you should do.

Yep, the introduction of disposalbes, I do agree they have pushed tt training back, thats why I guess when I was a kid we were toilet trained younger.

But then some kids dont care if they are wet or dirty even in cloth nappies, because they are used to it, so once they wet, if you leave even a cloth nappy on for awhile, they will get used to being like that and not really care, till a later age.

[elissas]

I actually believe that the longer tt is left, the more pressure there is on our kids, because the habit we're trying to break has taken longer to form.

I'm not going to force him out of nappies at a particular age, I just want to make sure that he doesn't associate his elimination needs with nappies for so long that it becomes a traumatic experience when I try to whisk them away from him. :eek:

[pumpkin]

Do those of you who used cloth nappies have early toilet trained children???? I have a theory - children who wear cloth - because they feel when they are wet - naturally toilet train earlier than disposible kids!!!!!????????

Oh is the baby whisperer toilet training or just getting lucky???? They need to be physically ready or else there are problems!!!!!!!!


my kids who were fully toilet trained at 13 months each never wore cloth nappies they always wore the huggies disposables. so i think that theory depends.

i think the parent needs to be fully committed to training whenever they choose to train and the child also needs to show signs that they know there is something in the nappy itself..

[kiwibird27]

Pumpkin - your right, the problem is lots of parents don't seem to have time to t.t., everyone is soooooo busy!!!
I don't think either way is right - some kids are ready earlier etc - it all comes down to biology????? Basically I'm thinking out loud!!!! Just seen some parents fully commit themselves to toilet training their 1 year old, just to fight with them for a year, and cause more issues than if they had just waited!!! However some kids take to it immediately!

[Mamaduke]

My Babcia (grandmother) had all of my cousins and myself toilet-trained by 1!!!
I don't know, personally, why anyone would bother.
I don't think it's 'toilet training' as much as it's 'toilet timing'...putting the child on the potty/toilet after they've eaten isn't teaching the child to go to the toilet...it's just teaching them that after they eat/when they get up etc. they need to sit on the potty/toilet until they go.
Jesse was toilet trained at around 2.5 and my MCHN said not to bother too much about it before then (especially for boys)...and when it happened, it was almost overnight. One day he decided he knew what was happening and what to do about it and it was done...too easy!

[lukaelmo]

I don't know, personally, why anyone would bother.
!

Are you kidding me? I have my eye on the most fabulous, teeny weeny pair of spiderman undies that I can't WAIT to see the dude running around in :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:.

[veve]

Are you kidding me? I have my eye on the most fabulous, teeny weeny pair of spiderman undies that I can't WAIT to see the dude running around in :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:.

ROFL - awwwwww how CUTE!!!!! :laughing:

[elissas]

I don't know, personally, why anyone would bother.



I guess I'd rather spend as little of my time as possible washing nappies, or as little of my money as possible on disposables. I use a combination of both, depending on my mood and how much time I have (I work from home). But if I can spend a year less doing it why not!! Time and money are sooo precious, and hard to come by!

[Rainbowbrite]

MJ has been tt for #2's for about 2 months now. She just prefers to go on the potty its easier for her. It wasnt planned really, if i heard her straining I would put her on the potty :thumbsup:

The problem with training early is the lack of small undies. A good friend of mine has a tt 2.5 yr old who is only a size 1-2 (very premmie). She cannot find undies to fit, she hasto buy the smallest she can & shrink them in the dryer.

I'm sure MJ will let me know when she's ready, the sooner the better IMO :yelclap:

[shanz]

Forgive me if i am a blinded nearly mum as i havent done this before but most kids walk at around one and arent really very talkative so they would just have to figure it out,crawl to the potty and go by themselves if you started at 9 months:confused:
IMHO it would be far easier when they were walking, talking and knew the sensation.
A friend's dad will swear that his kids were all TT by 1 but when you ask it was that they had to sit on the potty after meals,until they did something then they could go play. So it was more a timing thing than actual training as the kids probably had no idea until far later anyway what they were doing.

[CJJHRA]

nah, you dont toilet train the kids, you toilet train yourself into taking them :D (just kidding, but thats what its like for a bit)

[lukaelmo]

nah, you dont toilet train the kids, you toilet train yourself into taking them :D (just kidding, but thats what its like for a bit)


Ah yes, with 6 kids I am sure you know what you are talking about :laughing: .

Shanz, I think the idea is to take them to the potty after they have eaten, had milk etc. I wouldn't make the dude sit there for ages, just take him to the potty, sit him down for a minute and great if something happens, no worries if it doesn't.

On a side note, when the dude was a newborn, he cried every time he wet his nappy, and I would have to change him. He doesn't cry anymore, but doesn't that show that he DOES know when he whizzes?