HELP! We have tried everything!!!! HELP!

[Milliner]

I just don’t know what to do with DS anymore. His sleep is all out of whack. It all started about 3 weeks ago. He came home from his second last day at daycare tired and grumpy. I forgot to grab his book so I don’t know if he had a nap that day or not but from the looks he was so over tired. So, he went to bed at about 8pm and woke up at 10pm and wouldn’t go back to sleep until 1.15AM!!!!!!

Now, things haven’t improved since. Friday he was dog-tired again, falling asleep on the couch at 7.45pm. I put him to bed, but same thing happened he woke up at 10pm and thought it was PARTY time. DP took him for a drive at midnight to try and get him to fall asleep, that didn’t work. They got home at 1AM and he didn’t go to sleep until 2 AM!!! Yes, 2 AM for a bloody 2 year old!!!!

Same thing tonight, went to bed at 8.30 woke up at 10pm and he is still up FULL of beans.

I just don’t know what to do with him anymore. We have tried early naps, late naps, no naps, getting him up early etc, but nothing is working!!

Please HELP ME!!!! I’m so tired; DD is up at least 3-4 times a night for a feed. We co sleep so it’s not like I have to physically get out of bed but still it’s broken sleep and when your not getting to bed until 2 am it’s rather draining.

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[OJandMe]

Could he be having nightmares??

Ollie did this for months..

In the end we would just put a video on for him and then we'd crash out on the couch...

Not the most desirable thing to do... but at least we got some sleep.

Also... try getting some of the Brauer's 'Calm' it's supposed to help insomnia and restlessness.. and it does..

COuld you get him to drink a cup of 'sleepytime' tea made with extra milk and a little honey in it? that might help relax him too.


In the end though what we ended up doing was just taking him back to bed EVERYTIME he woke up... yes their were tanties, there were tears, there were sleepness nights... but within a week and a half he wasn't waking up at night anymore... (and we had been battling with it for months)


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[Lollie86]

Aww that sounds shocking. Sorry that your going through this. :hugs:

I dont really have any advice, except maybe speak to the people at daycare and see if he is maybe eating anything different or if his behaviour has changed at daycare for him to be wide awake at night? I dont have any experience with daycare so Im not sure if kids can share food or anything but Im trying to think of something to help. Sorry for my stupid post. :o :doh:

[Lollie86]

Also... try getting some of the Brauer's 'Calm' it's supposed to help insomnia and restlessness.. and it does..

COuld you get him to drink a cup of 'sleepytime' tea made with extra milk and a little honey in it? that might help relax him too.


OOo yes....Brauers Calm works wonders and also we started giving DD some camomile tea (half strength) when she was a night owl a few months ago and it worked wonders.

[Milliner]

Thanks guys!

We have tried the calm, but doesn't calm this monkey down. He was having a wiggles marathon last night. At 12pm he was saying door door, puk puk (park) he wanted to go to the park at midnight. He is CRAZY!!

DP is really good he will take him to bed, lay down with him until he falls asleep if he has too. But, it's as if when he goes to bed at 8ish he thinks he is having a nap. It's just nuts.

ETA He doesn't go to daycare anymore.

[cheezelkat]

I don't know Mel - the only thing I can suggest is keeping lights off / low so he doesn't get excited and not interact with him too much so he gets bored. Liam night wakes but we keep lights off and I just wrap my arms around him until he falls back asleep. He is quite sick at the moment so am doing this about 14 times a night.

[Milliner]

Thanks CK. Tonight was like a typical night he wakes and screams the house down for about 30 mins we try anything to calm him down. But then he will not go back to sleepafter he is calm. I'm just a bit lost atm.

I hope liam isn't too sick, has he just got a cold or something??? Less than a month until the magic 8th comes along (she will come out on the 8th, I can feel it in me waters). I guess you don't really need to be woken up 14 times a night at this point in time!!! :eek:

[SalTheGal]

Well I don't have a two yr old, so not speaking from experience, and may be way off the mark.

But how much do you interact with him? Have you tried to ignore him as much as possible? Keep lights to a minimum, NO interaction except to say its night time, and time for sleep, and putting him back into bed? No play, no tv, no toys.

It may take a few nights of bl00dy hard work to keep persisting, but sooner or later he will get the message that dark time is sleep time.

That all said- I may be way off the mark- he sounds like he is certianly wide awake!!! Goodluck- I really really feel for you.

[Shakey]

Mel my DS did the same as what your little man is doing, it drove me up the wall

what we ended up doing was putting him in his room, putting him to bed, and making him sta y there, for the first night he kept wanting to get out of bed, next few nights he would lay there and yell out, few nights after that would just lay there quietly and eventually go to sleep by himself, we had to make him realise that bed time is BED time, not nap and then play, it took a while and even now he plays up every now and then, not as often as what he used to though

[punkbaby]

DD3 does similiar its only really happeneed since i had bubs now i have resorted back to letting her have a day nap as otherwise she would go to bed at 7 and then wake at 10 and be up till 2am. She will not sleep in her bed at all, she wakes up crying, i can put her in there asleep but at 4am she comes into my bed. This doesnt bother me but it does if shes up all night :(

What we have done and it has helped. Generally shes up at 5am - 6am. I take her to the park in the morning and wear her out or we go for a walk or something, then she will come home have a play and then sleep maybe 12noon till 1, generally i wake her up though. Now she goes to bed around 830pm, but if i put her to bed she will sleep in her own bed all night till around 3am. At the moment it works for us. I think 830 is a little late but for the sake of sanity it works for us. Generally as indie sleeps 11-5am i find that i get a good 5 hours solid sleep so getting up to her at 5 and dd3 isnt a problem if i have slept all night :)

Is there ways that you could keep him awake or does he get unbearable? I know that if dd3 doesnt have that day sleep she is a nightmare, plus if she sleeps anywhere past 2pm she will be up till midnite so i am glad we finally worked out the timing with her.

Good luck no sleep is the pits

[~Temet Nosce~]

I know it sounds harsh, but maybe you could try putting a latch on the door or somthing, or bed rails so he cant get out of the bed or out of the room? And leave light off (or nightlight on- might be scared of the dark) and just leave him to have a whinge... hopefully after a few nights he might decide it isnt worth it and just go to sleep.. if nothing else is working..

[Craftymum]

Hi Milliner ,

Must be a tough time for you at the moment :hugs:

Have you tried putting him to bed earlier like 7pm? Then he wont be overtired and might drift off into a nice solid sleep?

Sorry, only thing I can think of.

Hope you can some well earnt rest soon.

[Milliner]

Thanks for the replies girls, but we really have tried everything. Well almost, we don't believe in CC and wouldn't just let him cry in a dark room.

I have been waking him up from his day naps as we thought that it might have been the problem. BUT, if he is having a 'nap' at 8pm, I might just let him sleep for as long as he wants today and see what happens tonight.