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workin'mumof2
24-02-2008, 17:47
just wondering if i can get a few different oppinions. my ds is on full cream but i have noticed for a while that when ever he does have a bottle (200mls) he is very hyper afterwoods... is it just the fact that milk recharges him so to speak or is he reacting to the full cream....


Also is there a difference between the uht(milk) and fresh full cream? (me i dont think i have heard of any)

kylza
24-02-2008, 17:51
uht milk is heat treated and i guess has more preservatives in it.
Sorry not much help.

forbetoel
24-02-2008, 17:57
I don't know why he would be hyper after drinking his milk. I would most likely think it to be just an energy boost. Your DS probally just loves the feeling of a full contented belly.

Tam-I-Am
24-02-2008, 18:00
I wouldn't think that full cream milk would make him any more or less hyper than skim milk - but don't really know.....It doesn't really make any sense to me...I would be thinking that it might be the lactose in the milk if anything - but as you say, it might just be that it gives him more energy...Or possibly that he has an intolerance to it that means he's becoming a bit overactive after drinking it. Maybe ask your GP next time you go in, or speak to a paediatric dietitian?

UHT simply stands for Ultra High Temperature - in milk it means that the milk is heat treated - bought to a temperature of 135 degree celcius, and held there for a certain amount of time to kill off any spores or bacteria in the milk. It is then sealed in air tight containers to stop any other pathegens from entering the milk, and has a shelf life of 6 - 12 months because of that. It doesn't contain anything that 'normal' (ie non-heat treated) milk doesn't, and in fact can have a higher nutritional content for much the same reason that frozen vegies versus fresh might - they get from the source to the container to you in a much shorter time frame. UHT milk goes off at the same rate as non-UHT milk after its opened.

HTH :)

MummaBear03
24-02-2008, 18:00
We use a selection of fresh, UHT, and powdered milk, all full cream and I haven't noticed that happen with my dd, but she doesn't have 200mls at a time, she really only has it on her cereal and occasionally a small amount in a glass. She was also about 3 before she was having cups of milk and she didn't like it too much. Is there any chance you could give formula? I read somewhere that cow's milk is not recommended in the first 2 years of life.

shanz
21-05-2008, 22:56
Actually there is children that will react to full cream milk. If you search info on Sue Dengate and FED UP you should get some info out of that,my nephew had serious behavioural issues up until 6 months ago when my sister found this out and switched him to skim milk(though he is over 5 so skim milk is ok for him)and within a week or so he went from VERY BAD to an angel. It was absolutely amazing. There is also another type of milk available at some supermarkets called A2 milk,which is still cows milk but comes from different cows,and has a different make up to it that is supposed to be better and have less impact behaviourally. Feel free to PM me and i would be happy to help, i have just bought the book, dvd and cookbook that Sue Dengate does,it is all about additives and salycilates etc in foods.

Chunkydunks
21-05-2008, 23:26
You could try him on goats or rice milk to see if it makes a difference. You can now buy UHT goats milk which is great.

workin'mumof2
22-05-2008, 10:58
thank u will try that as of this afternoon when we go shopping. can u buy it in a supermarket or do u have to go to a health food store for goats or rice milk.. tbh i havent looked b4 :o

eileenb
22-05-2008, 14:20
Hi,
Some children do have a problem with milk. It can cause behavioural problems. Shanz is right, you can try A2 milkl although children who have problems with dairy are generally better to go dairy free. Also be careful that it is actually milk. Food reactions do not always happen straight away. If there is something else going on then it might not show up for a day or two. Get the Aussie Dream Calcium fortified UHT rice milk from the supermarket. Most s/markets have them. Sue Dengate is the guru on food intolerance. If you remove milk from his diet and you still see problems then might be worth looking at other things. Also, keep an eye on the consistency of what comes out of his bowels. :o This can also tell you if there are problems.
Cheers, Eileen.