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perrywinkle
22-02-2008, 15:37
perrywinkle - Which Play cafe are you off to? Some friends and I met up at the Wacky Warehouse yesterday and Eden had a ball! Today my mum is taking her to the Superplay Cafe up here, so its great......I get to do the washing, grocery shopping and floors. :rolleyes: Don't get me wrong. I'm SO grateful for the time. :yes: :D I know others don't have that luxury.

It's Little Foot Prints in Aberfoyle Park. It's run by the Salvation Army so cheap entry $3.50 and cheap food. New place too so it's good. It is smallish so sometimes you have to wait till someone leaves.

You, Tally and myself should meet up sometime? It's only us 3 right?

Moops
22-02-2008, 16:15
Sasa - Hope u had some replies and had some people to meet up with! Shame that everyone couldn't make it, Sands hope everything went ok clearing out the shop.

We had another terrible night last night and I'm terrified that he is going to turn back into a non-sleeper! He didn't sleep alot during the day yesterday so I thought he would have a good night - WRONG! He went to bed at 7pm, woke at 11.30pm, 2am, 4am and then we got up for good at 5am! I have no idea what is wrong/what has changed!!

The only thing I can think of is that he is now uncomfortable in his pram so we are going to make the switch to his crib on the weekend...I can sense more sleepless nights ahead!

MrsScatterbrain
22-02-2008, 19:43
"Hello, my name is Mrs. Scatterbrain, and I'm a multi-quote -aholic. It has been 24 hours since I used the multi-quote function!!" :laughing:

I am going to try and wing it without the quote button! Nope - can't remember a thing anybody has said - but good luck with moving your shop sandralee!

Still struggling with how much sleep Thomas needs during the day (very overtired baby today and yesterday!), but I have my 'mental health' visit with the CHN on Monday, so darn it, I'm going to have to fight her pushing me out the door so she can have an early minute, and try to get some help out of her! Do you guys all have 'mental health' visits at the 3-month mark, or is it just us?

:hissy: So jealous of all you people meeting up! Are there any Melbournites here? :D

AliyahBlake
22-02-2008, 20:03
:hair::hair::banghead::banghead:Damn breast pump is bloody broken..........poo, poo, poo, bum!!!! Looks like I'll have to buy a new one now! Grrrr!!

Kizmet
22-02-2008, 20:39
yay another new thread!!! geez we must talk alot

Roxy76
22-02-2008, 22:16
:hair::hair::banghead::banghead:Damn breast pump is bloody broken..........poo, poo, poo, bum!!!! Looks like I'll have to buy a new one now! Grrrr!!

which one did you have? bummer!

hey jsut wanted to ask, you mentioned that the nirse told you WHEN to pump for maximum milk, can you let me know what she told you. I am getting a double pump off a friend and would love any tips to get more milk!!! :thumbsup: Maddi LOVES her B**bie juice too!! and would love to increase my supply :D

Thanks heaps!

Roxy76
22-02-2008, 22:18
Maddison had her weigh in yesterday. She is coming up to 3 1/2 months and considering she was born so little, she is doing soooo well!

Her measurements now are:

Weight: 5.92kg (13lb 8oz)
Length: 56.5cm (that is an increase of 14.5cm since birth!!)
HC: 39.5cmShe is still sleeping through the night, which is lovely!!! This morning I got up at 9 and had a shower, then woke her up after that! She had her last feed last night at 10:15pm, so it worked out well i got to have a sleep in

Still offering the b/feed at every feed, then top up with formula. I know I don't have enough milk to satisfy her, but it must be getting better as she is drinking less formula than she used to. But I am still keeping an eye on her intake, as it seems a bit low overall. Guess if I want to make sure all is ok, I could call the MCHN and ask her to weigh her next week to see how she went over this past week. will see how she goes anyway... Just so hard to know how much they get from the b**b!! http://forum.maternal.com.au/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

Anyone else give b/feed and formula top ups? how much does your bub usually have on average per feed/day?

AliyahBlake
23-02-2008, 06:10
Roxy - the nurse told me the best time to pump is about 1 to 1 1/2 hours after the last feed as thats when the breast has fully filled with milk again. I've been doing that about 2 or 3 times a day and it's working really well (until last night!). I started off only getting 40 or 50 mls at a time, but now I'm getting over 80mls a pump!

The pump that broke is a Tommee Tippee manual one - not one of the new ones though. It's one I've had since Aliyah was a baby, and one of the rubber components just warped I think and came unstuck. So, either I go and buy a manual pump today, or get an electric one off Ebay (they're much cheaper on there). Only thing is, if I buy an Ebay one I'll have to just wait for it to turn up and give Blake formula once a day, but then my milk supply will drop off again. I'll have to see what the manual ones are like first, but I think I'd prefer an electric one so I don't get RSI in my hands!

Blake slept better last night - woke up at 5am, but is awake again now and quite cranky. I've tried to resettle him, so I'll see what happens!

AliyahBlake
23-02-2008, 06:35
Well, I just got a bargain on Ebay - bought an electric breast pump (used once, in box, sterilised) for $40 plus postage of $12. Can't get better than that!! ;) I'll just have to either try and fix the one I have to keep working for a couple more days, or just give Blake formula and hope my milk supply doesn't suffer until the new pump arrives. :fingerscrossed:

perrywinkle
23-02-2008, 07:25
Oh dear we do chat way too much!!!

What a bargin Nicole!! Maybe I should try and pump some boobie milk too. Will definately need her to take a bottle through out Semester 1 so might get some bags to freeze some. Any body got any ideas for increasing your supply? I've tried the lactation cookies but they didn't seem to work. I could try them again!

Well we had a much better night last night. Only woke up once at 3am for a feed then woke for the day at 7am. Woke up to Mitchell though as well because he wet the bet poor little thing he was so upset and it was big wee wee LOL!!

Going to remover some pavers today that the bobcat couldn't remove ready for some more work to be done on the back yard!

I'll check back later on. Have a good morning everyone!

AliyahBlake
23-02-2008, 10:08
I'm pretty stoked about my Ebay purchase as I've scored an electric one for cheaper than I can buy a manual one in the shops (I just went then and priced a few). I love Ebay!!!:bee:

perrywinkle
23-02-2008, 12:25
I'm pretty stoked about my Ebay purchase as I've scored an electric one for cheaper than I can buy a manual one in the shops (I just went then and priced a few). I love Ebay!!!:bee:

Oh yeah I love Ebay too. I have spent way too much money recently there I need to stop!!!!

kaybee
23-02-2008, 12:37
AB - wow! Love ebay too! What a bargain! I have a Tommee Tippee Closer to nature Manual Pump which I think was $70! It was a gift from my Mum and I think she got it on sale.
Yeh an electric one would be great! When I was pumping in the beginning I was doing 20 min each side! My arm muscles were so sore! I was worried about rsi too!
Roxy - Maddi is going so well!! Must be your super b**bie juice!
My lovely Dh looked after bub this morning for 2.5hrs, so I could go and shop on my own! I bought a few clothes for myself and bub, a CD and a new nursing bra. She grizzled nearly the whole time I was gone heehee! Now he know's how it is for me during the week!

AliyahBlake
23-02-2008, 13:22
Blake's been so cute today - he's discovered his feet and has started lifting his legs up to play with them! When he gets hold of a foot he gets all excited and smiles and kicks like mad - I love this age when they start to find out they have body parts! He's definitely a boy too - he's recently discovered his willy and whenever the nappy's off he won't leave it alone.........and here his relationship with "Little Blake" starts :rolleyes:

Nan
23-02-2008, 14:21
You, Tally and myself should meet up sometime? It's only us 3 right?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're the only Adelaidians. Re: Supply.......my two best tips would be plain old yeast. Just sprinkle it on your brekkie cereal or mix it in with some jam or honey on toast in the mornings. The other thing is HEAPS (150mg or more per day) of the Vitamin B Complex. I take it in tablet form.

He went to bed at 7pm, woke at 11.30pm, 2am, 4am and then we got up for good at 5am! I have no idea what is wrong/what has changed!!
Hey Moops. That sounds awful for you. When he gets up what do you do? Is he hungry or is it just a habit? My strong suspicion, especially because YOU KNOW he can sleep through, he's done it for a while, is that it is habit. In which case, the good news is it can be broken. Just takes some patience on your part. When he wakes is he screaming or just wingeing? If he's just wingeing, do you leave him for a bit to see if he'll go back to sleep?

Just so hard to know how much they get from the b**b!!
I would go as far as to say its impossible, but try not to stress hun. I've only ever BFed 2 kids and have never known how much they've got and they both did/are doing really well. Maddy will drink as much as she needs. She may be a quick drinker and be getting heaps from you & only need a bit of FF. As I said before, Eden was around her size when born and she is doing better than Eden at that age & Eden is fine now. Very petite, but very healthy......always has been. Maddy might just be a little girl forever! So long as she's putting on weight, don't worry about how much. She sounds fine to me......and what an awesome little sleeper she is. :thumbsup:

I'm pretty stoked about my Ebay purchase as I've scored an electric one for cheaper than I can buy a manual one in the shops (I just went then and priced a few). I love Ebay!!!
I know! I'm an addict! I just got a new pair of little pumpkin patch shoes for Caleb for winter for $11.50c all up. :smiliedance:

.........and here his relationship with "Little Blake" starts
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Vespera
23-02-2008, 14:39
My boy has slept in his own room 2 nights in a row. Still in his bassinette but in his room instead of in the lounge room.

We are making progress!

And it was so cute this morning I didnt realise he could see the mobile thats in his cot from the bassinette but I woke up to him laughing and talking and yep he was having a merry conversation with the toys!

But we are having issues with his day sleeps. I think its too quiet in there as we usually have the tv or the radio on in the lounge room. Might have to see if I can find a little radio for his room.

Moops
23-02-2008, 19:21
Hey Moops. That sounds awful for you. When he gets up what do you do? Is he hungry or is it just a habit? My strong suspicion, especially because YOU KNOW he can sleep through, he's done it for a while, is that it is habit. In which case, the good news is it can be broken. Just takes some patience on your part. When he wakes is he screaming or just wingeing? If he's just wingeing, do you leave him for a bit to see if he'll go back to sleep?

We had another bad night last night but it was the first night in his crib so I'm going to cut him some slack!

Ok before we were cluster feeding at 4, 5, 6 and then final bottle at 7 and he was sleeping up till 9 hours and never woke up hourly whinging or anything. He doesn't wake up screaming but whinging and crying and when you go in he is wide awake and won't resettle himself. My MIL reckons it is because he is used to being fed often during the cluster feeding so that is why is waking up. I disagree cos it was working and if he was going to bed full he wouldn't wake up!

He sleeps maybe two hours during the day so he should be really tired at night time! I just have no idea why he has changed, I'm starting to get really scared that it is for good! Any ideas??!

AliyahBlake
23-02-2008, 20:05
Moops - the only thing I'd be able to put it down to is that he's having the 3 month growth spurt and is hungry, so is waking up more during the night. That's the only reason I can think of. Is he waking at the exact same time through the night or is it erratic?

Thought I'd just give you BF girls a bit of info I found out from the Australian Breastfeeding Association. I emailed them to ask about heating EBM as I've been doing a bit of research to find out if microwaving it really is a no-no or if that's just what people say. I had found a couple of sites that say it is ok, but thought the ABA would be the ones to ask. Here's what the reply to my email was today :

Thank you for your query. Expressed breastmilk will separate into 2 layers -
this is normal and just needs a gentle shake, to remix.
The Australian Breastfeeding Association recommends thawing and heating
breastmilk by the following methods.
1. Frozen milk may be thawed in the fridge. Milk that is collected into a
bottle or milk collection bag will take a lot longer to thaw and heat than
if collected into ice cube trays.

2. Frozen breastmilk in a sealed container can be stood in a bowl of luke
warm water to thaw, warmer water can be run over the top gradually as
breastmilk defrosts.

3. Warm the chilled or thawed breastmilk in an electric bottle warmer (from
baby stores), or in a jug or pot of hot water.

Microwaves are not recommended as microwaving damages the immunological and
nutrient qualities of breastmilk. I personally have used breastmilk that has
been heated in a microwave but it was for only one feed a day for 3 days a
week. All other feeds were given direct from breast and so I knew baby was
still getting lots of benefit from breastfeeding. I guess it really depends
on your own circumstances and how often you will be away from baby.

Moops
24-02-2008, 05:40
Moops - the only thing I'd be able to put it down to is that he's having the 3 month growth spurt and is hungry, so is waking up more during the night. That's the only reason I can think of. Is he waking at the exact same time through the night or is it erratic?

It's erratic, I thought if it was at the same times then I could introduce a dream feed but he's too all over the place at the moment. If he wakes up only a couple of hours after his bottle then we will just try and resettle him but sometimes after 3 hours he just wants to eat so we will give him a bottle but he'll only drink about 120mls which isn't heaps so he'll wake up again hungry shortly after. I have no idea what to do, I gave him baby rice last night and he vomited it up all over DH at about 2am and he never throws up so I'm not sure if he is ready for it.....

I've just had an all round crappy day today, had a massive fight with DH as well. He has absolutely no patience with Luca, I look forward to having a little help on the weekends but because we were both up all night with Luca Dh was is a foul mood. What gets me is that I'm tired as well but I have no choice but to look after Luca, even when I feel like I have absolutely no patience left you have to find some from somewhere but Dh just loses it!

I ended up storming out of the house with Luca and going for a 2 1/2 hour walk, when I got back DH pretended like nothing happened which made me even angrier! I sooooo hope Luca sleeps tonight! Sorry for the vent!

AliyahBlake
24-02-2008, 06:47
:hugs: Moops - I'm sorry you had such a rotten day.
It's possible it could be the rice cereal. I know when you start solids, even when it's the tiniest bit, it's something new in their system so they will react to it. That could be why Luca's throwing up and unsettled all of a sudden. It should settle down in the next few days if that's what is causing it. I've read that usually if there's erratic waking patterns, it's caused by something like hunger, too hot/cold or wind. If they wake consistently at the same time it's more habitual.

MrsScatterbrain
24-02-2008, 09:03
Vespera - I just had a thought. If you have a baby monitor, you could try reversing it during the day. Then your bub will have exactly the same noise he's used to! I'm thinking of doing that with Thomas once he's moved.

Moops :hugs: - Your poor thing, I feel for you. I know its all relative for the blokes, but it doesn't make it any easier, does it? I've done the 2 hour walk too, (with no response at the end!) I really did see red! I hope you got some sleep last night. :fingerscrossed:

Another ebay (and Buy for Baby) addict here! :laughing: They both really help you to get what you need for the kids cheaply! Wonderful! :thumbsup:

Vespera
24-02-2008, 11:00
Vespera - I just had a thought. If you have a baby monitor, you could try reversing it during the day. Then your bub will have exactly the same noise he's used to!

You smart! The cool thing is they are really easy to swtich as well.

:smiliedance: yay for noise for Connor :)

hmmm I think I got too much sleep last night - I'm a little hypo this morning

melbryan
24-02-2008, 13:36
I've just had an all round crappy day today, had a massive fight with DH as well. He has absolutely no patience with Luca, I look forward to having a little help on the weekends but because we were both up all night with Luca Dh was is a foul mood. What gets me is that I'm tired as well but I have no choice but to look after Luca, even when I feel like I have absolutely no patience left you have to find some from somewhere but Dh just loses it!



Moops I have a hubby that gets into abad mood and takes it out on everyone which sux. He has less sleep than me and still complains.:hugs: to you.

This is what I have tried from today. Ashton has not been lasting (2 hrs) between feeds and have only given him a bit of food but changed to the thickened AR formula as it thickens in their little tummies and stays there a little longer which keeps them fuller for longer that is the way I see it anyway. He has had 3 bottles so far and isn't so whingey and has a more sound sleep without waving his arms around and kicking with wind. He has been chucking alot lately but with the thickened formula he doesn't chuck so much so it stays more in his tummy than having to be re-fed. I know his pooing will change as it will thicken too but I think he will get used to it after a couple of days. Just a thought for you who are struggling. Will let you know how he goes.

Kaybee glad you got some time away you really need it. I went this morning to the shops with a tantrumming toddler who chose to throw everything out of the pram. I found some good bargains on swimmers so stocked up in the next size for next summer and bought some b'day pressies. Can't wait to move to our new house where we have a pool we won't be ablt to survive with 1 pair od swimmers each.

Nan
24-02-2008, 14:17
Good afternoon ladies.
mel - When do you move? I'd love a pool, but we don't have the room in our yard with the shed and all the veggies etc. Well, we do.....but if we put in a pool all the 'run around' kid space would be gone, apart from the entertaining area & I don't want kids running around there! :no:

My boy has slept in his own room 2 nights in a row. Still in his bassinette but in his room instead of in the lounge room.
YAY for Connor!! :yelclap:

He sleeps maybe two hours during the day so he should be really tired at night time! I just have no idea why he has changed, I'm starting to get really scared that it is for good! Any ideas??!
Sorry to hear about your fight and your bad night. :hugs: I've come to the conclusion that the men just don't get it and they never will get it 100%. I agree that it isn't the feeding. You said it yourself.....it worked before! And it isn't habit if its so erratic. I actually think he's over tired. If he's only getting 2 hours of sleep during the day he's probably so over tired by the time night comes that he can't sleep. This happens when bubs get way past the tired point & they just don't sleep. What do you do for his sleep during the day? How often does he feed during the day? Whenever Eden used to wake up early after I knew she could sleep through, I would go back to feeding her more often during the day and she'd sleep through again........THAT'S IT!!!! Sorry just thinking out loud!! I reckon he's going through the 3 month spurt like AB said and I think if you try feeding him more often during the day, he'll slowing become better for you at night. If Eden was doing 4 hourly, I'd go back to 3 hourly and she'd start sleeping through again.......you can always go back to 4 hourly when the spurt is over. Good luck.

mmm I think I got too much sleep last night - I'm a little hypo this morning
Too much sleep! Is that even possible??!!! :laughing:

Well, we went to a 2nd birthday party today and Eden has only gone down for her nap at 2 o'clock!! Now I have to put Caleb down as he had his big sleep earlier than usual today and needs another nap before we start the night routine. Aaahhhhh the blessed clock.......will my life ever NOT be run by it again? *sigh*

Vespera
24-02-2008, 14:30
Too much sleep! Is that even possible??!!!

My boy gave me 9 hours of uninterupted sleep - I think it muddled my brain :laughing:

melbryan
24-02-2008, 15:05
Good afternoon ladies.
mel - When do you move? I'd love a pool, but we don't have the room in our yard with the shed and all the veggies etc. Well, we do.....but if we put in a pool all the 'run around' kid space would be gone, apart from the entertaining area & I don't want kids running around there! :no:



In saying that Nan there is not much room left in the backyard so am trying to convince Dh to plant a hedge and put a fence inside the hedge so the kids are safe and can kick a ball etc. I can't wait for the pool the kids have been soing swimming lessons for 2 weeks now and love it so am hoping for safety reasons it willhelp them.
In 2 weeks we put our house on the market so am going to pack away some clutter and spruce the home up just waiting for a sale at Target in the homewares dept. Since our car got smashed in Thurs last week they have given us a corolla hatchback for 3 car seats they just fit but can't wait to get our old car back .

krixly
24-02-2008, 17:54
Hey Moops - sorry to hear about your bad day and fight with dh. I think men just lack patience and that is why they don't go through the pregnancy, feeding and settling like us mummies do!! My Dh is the same and just really lacks confidence in caring for Nehemiah when he is on his own too. I think men also have that ability to just get over a fight quickly, whereas us girls are much more emotionally attached to it and they just don't understand!!! So frustrating huh?

Well ladies it is my birthday today (thanks to all of you lovely mummies who sent me facebook messages :)) Had the family over for a BBQ lunch and they FINALLY went home at 5.30pm!! Had a big day. Nehemiah was really good though and actually had a 2.5 hour sleep while everyone was here! I think sometimes he sleeps so he doesn't have to see anyone!!! I got some really nice pressies and Nehemiah got me some nice perfume (DH says that Nehemiah chose it for me.) It was so nice to have a bub on my birthday!!! Oh well another year older. Having a few friends over tonight to watch SYTYCD and to have Indian Takeaway - YUM! :thumbsup:

Have a lovely night girls - hope all they bubbas have long dreamy sleeps! :sleeping::sleeping:

sandralee
24-02-2008, 21:11
WHo said something about a full moon??!!!! I l have had the most stressful few days ever!!! You wouldn't believe how many things have gone wrong lol.. Haven't ready any posts at all. Will catch up tomorrow. Off to bed for now, and will fill you all in then. Miss you guys xx oo xx and the sanity & humour! XX oo XX

Rainbowbrite
25-02-2008, 08:02
Happy Birthday for yesterday Krixly :hugs:

Sorry we haven't been around, took the kids to the Sydney Aquarium on saturday & they were both angels!! We drove to Hornsby then got the train from there. Had Ani in the Moby & took a stroller for MJ. Neither one mucked up at all & Ani was so thoughtful. He waited till I was just about to put him back in the car & drive home :rolleyes: :laughing:

He's alwo been sleeping from 8pm till 6am feeding & then going back to sleep till 7.30-8am :D:D

Best be off, time to put him back to bed soon. Hope your all well :hugs:

sasa
25-02-2008, 08:04
Good morning everyone!

Awesoem night here! My baby girl went to bed an hour early at 7pm lst night, so I was thinking I was going to be up in the middle of the night for sure, but no! She slept until 5am this morning!! 10 hours!! She had a feed and is still asleep now~!! Little angel! I am stoked needless to say!

Had a good weekend, caught up on a bit of housework, Saturday was the hottest day we have had here in ages - it was a joke, 40 degrees they reckon! Had a 30th birthday party on Sat night at a Nepalese Restaraunt, It was lovely and both the girls where so well behaved, DD1 had a ball talking to our friends and playing then fell asleep on me at 9 and then slept in her pram while DD2 had a feed, went to sleep at 8, neither of them even woke when we transferred them to the car, or into their beds :smiliedance: So we all had a great night.

Forgot to Multi quote so will wing it and prob forget heaps... Moops Thank you, Yep Shana, Kittylou and I all met up on Friday. Was so great to meet them and their baby girls, put faces to names,, and just have a good old chat.. Look forward to doing it again! Sands and Krixly will hopefully be able to make it too!
Oh yeah and So sorry to hear about your crappy day - DH can stand for something other than Darling Husband sometimes can't it :laughing:
Hopefully today will be 100% better for you!

Vesp what a great nights sleep!~ Hope he keeps it up for you!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KRIXLY! Hope yopu had an awesome day!

Sands :hugs: I hope moving the shop all went well, so sorry you couldn't make it on Friday but we will have to so it again very soon, It was great to hang out with some mums that have bubs the same age... So sorry to hear you have had dramas, I really hope that it is all coming to an end for you, and now that your shop is done you can relax a bit more...

Ooh bubs is awake, back soon xx
truck is in for a service this morning so we will be home bound for the day.

AliyahBlake
25-02-2008, 08:36
Since Saturday Blake has been quite unsettled. I don't know if it's something to do with Craig being away on Friday and Saturday night, but it possibly could be. Babies are pretty perceptive when it comes to change, so he probably sensed Craig wasn't here (especially at bedtime) and it's thrown him. He had a terrible sleep last night (as did I!) and I am struggling to get him to fall asleep for a nap this morning. I think his teeth are coming up again as well, so I have started the Brauers up again.

Kizmet
25-02-2008, 08:47
Blake's been so cute today - he's discovered his feet and has started lifting his legs up to play with them! When he gets hold of a foot he gets all excited and smiles and kicks like mad - I love this age when they start to find out they have body parts! He's definitely a boy too - he's recently discovered his willy and whenever the nappy's off he won't leave it alone.........and here his relationship with "Little Blake" starts

:laughing: Robbie discovered little robbie a few weeks ago and i obsessed! Everytime the nappy is off he is like woohoo hands straight there wont leave it alone which makes it so easy to nappy change! He also discovered his hands and feet and it is so cute watching him figure out what to do with them! He is now interacting more and playing with toys more, reaching out and grabbing them, bringing them up to his mouth to eat .He can fit his entire fist into his mouth! Cant believe it!



My lovely Dh looked after bub this morning for 2.5hrs, so I could go and shop on my own! I bought a few clothes for myself and bub, a CD and a new nursing bra. She grizzled nearly the whole time I was gone heehee! Now he know's how it is for me during the week!

Great job on getting out on your own hun!! Gotta love having a good shop!



But we are having issues with his day sleeps. I think its too quiet in there as we usually have the tv or the radio on in the lounge room. Might have to see if I can find a little radio for his room.

The backwards monitor is a good idea otherwise , is your house quiet in the day? I always made sure to do my vacuuming and cleaning when the kids were sleeping so they got used to noise happening.



I've just had an all round crappy day today, had a massive fight with DH as well. He has absolutely no patience with Luca, I look forward to having a little help on the weekends but because we were both up all night with Luca Dh was is a foul mood. What gets me is that I'm tired as well but I have no choice but to look after Luca, even when I feel like I have absolutely no patience left you have to find some from somewhere but Dh just loses it!


:hugs: my husband is the worst when he is tired, zero patience with anyone it really irritates me. In the end I just have to leave him alone, completely isolate him until he gets over it. So painful.


Can't wait to move to our new house where we have a pool we won't be ablt to survive with 1 pair of swimmers each.

Are you still moving within the same area?


Since our car got smashed in Thurs last week they have given us a corolla hatchback for 3 car seats they just fit but can't wait to get our old car back .

That would be a tight squeeze with three seats in it! hopefully your car gets fixed soon!



Well ladies it is my birthday today (thanks to all of you lovely mummies who sent me facebook messages ) Had the family over for a BBQ lunch and they FINALLY went home at 5.30pm!! Had a big day. Nehemiah was really good though and actually had a 2.5 hour sleep while everyone was here! I think sometimes he sleeps so he doesn't have to see anyone!!! I got some really nice pressies and Nehemiah got me some nice perfume (DH says that Nehemiah chose it for me.) It was so nice to have a bub on my birthday!!! Oh well another year older.




He's alwo been sleeping from 8pm till 6am feeding & then going back to sleep till 7.30-8am


I am so jealous right now hun :laughing:



i weighed Rob on thursday and he is 6.8kg!!! *faints* I knew he was a little chubba but didnt know he had put on that much weight since last weigh in :laughing: Definately takes after his dad!

Robbie is down for the night at 7 then lately has decided he wants a drink at 10ish then up at 2ish then 5ish and we are both so exhausted! DH and I, not Robbie he is ready to party when he wakes up!

DH is thinking of taking up a second job because there is something in the works that will enable us to buy a house (still in the works though so may not eventuate trying to not get excited). We can afford it but the banks wont lend us that much. Mind you the repayments are the same or less than the amount we are paying in rent now. Anyway we need to speak to a broker but we need to have a track record of saving and that is really hard on one salary, hence the second job.. We both dont really want that to happen because DH is so cranky when he is tired, he wont get to see the kids very often, we wont get to see each other very often but if it is what i needed for about 6 months then so be it. not much we can do there.

Ah robbie is stirring. He wont sleep longer than a half hour :confused: ready to do this :hair:

shymmer
25-02-2008, 08:58
Morning!

Had a pretty good weekend here.
After our meet up on Friday - great to meet Sasa and Kittylou, it was a lovely morning! I went out of town to see my family. We are a travelling circus these days . . . Dh and I, baby and two dogs all piled into the car for a 1.45hr drive. Xav had a 5hr sleep after the meet up, so I though she mght grizzlebeing stuck in the car seat so long, but nope . my bella baby had her feed and fell asleep in the car again!
She was then up nearly all day Saturday getting cuddled and watching her cousins so only had a couple of cat naps and then crashed at 7.30pm . . . and slept until 8am!!!!! She had two feeds so didn't technically 'sleep through', but I was so happy! her little body clock is back on track. She did it again last night.
And she is waking up so happy in the morning after so much sleep. The down side is she is not sleeping a great deal in the afternoon so is a little fragile until bedtime.

You know that universal rule where if one person loses weight, another gains it?? I was thinking there must be a 'sleeping baby' rule too . . . .If one baby is sleeping - another is awake! :laughing:

:hugs: to those who've had challenging weekends.
Happy birthday Krixly!
Moops - deep breath and hugs.

kaybee
25-02-2008, 09:10
Moops - you poor thing :hugs::hugs: I hope things are better for you today! I feel your pain, my DH doen't seem to have the patience to settle our bub either, especially if he's missing sleep.

My little angel is back!:angel:

Yesterday was hell! :devil:Bubba cried/grizzled from midday till 9pm!:hair::crying:

Nothing we did would settle her, using the dummy and walking around patting & rocking, reduced the crying to a grizzle and that was it. I was so tired and had sore legs after doing that on and off for hours. DH had to go out for a couple of hours, I nearly went round the bend! His friend was coming over for dinner and I couldn't prepare it as she wouldn't let me put her down for 5 minutes, let alone the 1/2 hour I needed.

She finally fell asleep on the b**b at 9pm, while I was sitting on our bed, so I left her there with a couple of pillows around her. Got to finally eat my (cold) dinner and poured myself a LARGE glass of wine! She then slept for 2 hours, slightly stirred for a short feed at 11.30pm. She stirred a couple of times in the early hours, fed at 6.15 then slept again till 9am. When I went in then, she looked up and smiled at me and I realised that I had missed her! Our normal baby not the evil twin we had yesterday!

I will be back for more personals later.

AliyahBlake
25-02-2008, 09:13
:laughing: Robbie discovered little robbie a few weeks ago and i obsessed! Everytime the nappy is off he is like woohoo hands straight there wont leave it alone which makes it so easy to nappy change! He also discovered his hands and feet and it is so cute watching him figure out what to do with them! He is now interacting more and playing with toys more, reaching out and grabbing them, bringing them up to his mouth to eat .He can fit his entire fist into his mouth! Cant believe it!

The backwards monitor is a good idea otherwise , is your house quiet in the day? I always made sure to do my vacuuming and cleaning when the kids were sleeping so they got used to noise happening.

Robbie is down for the night at 7 then lately has decided he wants a drink at 10ish then up at 2ish then 5ish and we are both so exhausted! DH and I, not Robbie he is ready to party when he wakes up!

Ah robbie is stirring. He wont sleep longer than a half hour :confused: ready to do this :hair:
Yeah, the nappy change is a challenge when the hands go straight for the willy every time! :laughing: Especially challenging when there's a nappy full of sloppy poo! I've started giving Blake a little toy or something to play with while I'm changing him to keep his hands out of the way - it works 90% of the time. I'm loving the interaction too - it just seems like Blake has all of a sudden decided not to be a helpless little newborn anymore as he seems to have realised how to grab things, lift his head when he's on his tummy, and grab his feet all within a matter of a couple of days!

I find that keeping a bit of noise about the house while they're asleep is a good thing too (as I write this I realise the house is deathly quiet at the moment - might go turn the TV back on!)

Kiz - Blake's routine has been like that for about a week again - he was sleeping right through for almost 2 weeks, then it changed! He's awake around 2 or 3 am then again about 5:30 or 6 (except for Friday night when he slept til 5am). The main reason he wakes is that he does a big poo which sometimes leaks out of his nappy, so I have to do the whole clothes change :hair: Blake's not been sleeping particularly well during the day either - I try and re-settle him but sometimes he just squawks till I get him up after about 1 hour's sleep. He has been getting to the stage where he can stay up for almost 2 hours at a time now.

Kaybee - I also pour myself a large glass of chardy after a trying day (which seems like every 2nd day at the moment!).

Vespera
25-02-2008, 09:21
He also discovered his hands and feet and it is so cute watching him figure out what to do with them!

Connor seems to have discovered he has arms and hands - he waves it in front of his face and then he gets a really serious look and holds his arm still to inspect it. Its actually very amusing.


The backwards monitor is a good idea otherwise , is your house quiet in the day? I always made sure to do my vacuuming and cleaning when the kids were sleeping so they got used to noise happening.

The house isnt quiet but his room is as its at the other end of the house. When he was sleeping in the lounge it was great because it taught him to sleep through anything but now his room is kinda quiet. Trying the backwards monitor thing today so will let you know how we go :yes:

sasa
25-02-2008, 09:58
Morning!

Had a pretty good weekend here.
After our meet up on Friday - great to meet Sasa and Kittylou, it was a lovely morning! I went out of town to see my family. We are a travelling circus these days . . . Dh and I, baby and two dogs all piled into the car for a 1.45hr drive. Xav had a 5hr sleep after the meet up, so I though she mght grizzlebeing stuck in the car seat so long, but nope . my bella baby had her feed and fell asleep in the car again!
She was then up nearly all day Saturday getting cuddled and watching her cousins so only had a couple of cat naps and then crashed at 7.30pm . . . and slept until 8am!!!!! She had two feeds so didn't technically 'sleep through', but I was so happy! her little body clock is back on track. She did it again last night.


Shana thats awesome! I am so glad she was well behaved for the car trip, and her big nights sleep! Great to hear her body clock is back on track!


DH is thinking of taking up a second job because there is something in the works that will enable us to buy a house (still in the works though so may not eventuate trying to not get excited). We can afford it but the banks wont lend us that much. Mind you the repayments are the same or less than the amount we are paying in rent now. Anyway we need to speak to a broker but we need to have a track record of saving and that is really hard on one salary, hence the second job.. We both dont really want that to happen because DH is so cranky when he is tired, he wont get to see the kids very often, we wont get to see each other very often but if it is what i needed for about 6 months then so be it. not much we can do there.


Good luck with the house buying Kiz, it is very exciting! Shame about DH looking at a second job though, but yeah if thats what has to happen I am sure it will be worth it in the end.

We settle on our place on the 19th of March!! Very exciting!


Connor seems to have discovered he has arms and hands - he waves it in front of his face and then he gets a really serious look and holds his arm still to inspect it. Its actually very amusing.


I LOVE that look, when they look at their hands like 'what is THIS!' it is soo cute! And when they bump themselves in the face then look at their hand accusingly lol! So cute!

Moops I here you where driving behind Gordon Ramsay! I love his kitchen nightmares Show, Ramsay is a classic!

sasa
25-02-2008, 10:00
Jaybee I am glad your angel bubba is back, it sucks when they are out of sorts and you really just don't know why!

AliyahBlake
25-02-2008, 10:02
Yeah, Moops, I just saw your status on FB too! I love Kitchen Nightmares too, Gordon is so in your face - just love it when he swears his head off at people!:laughing:

westerner
25-02-2008, 10:55
Im soooo sleepy.. :sleeping:
Miss Princess is still sleeping great.. But it was an awful night last night with jacob.. He woke like 5 times.. :hair: Plus im not sleeping great so between us both i was up all night..

DP is working 10am-10pm today so im gonna try and have a afternoon nap... Thats if i can convince both kids to sleep at the same time.. :fingerscrossed:

Im sick with a cold and just feeling like poo.. :( My nose is either like a bloody tap running or all blocked up so i cant breathe.. My throat is sore and my head just feels like crud.. :thumbsdown:
Hope i feel better soon and the kids dont get it..

So no personals today sorry my brain isnt working..

:hugs:'s to you all


ETA- My right boob is soooo sore and a bit red all around the nipple.. I expressed for the first time last night (expressed with Jacob but first time with Kaitlyn) do you this this could be why.. Its just a bit tender from not being used to the pressure of pumping?? It seems too much of a coincidence that i only pumped mr righty cos he was so full and K had gone to bed and its only righty thats sore and tender and red..
Besides isnt mastitis just one red lump?? There isnt a lump its just red all around and tender and dore.. Any thoughts??

Kittylou
25-02-2008, 11:28
Good morning all

Well, I got a new laptop yesterday so I'm back in Bubhub action (my computer decided to die early last week). It's almost impossible to catch up with you guys even after a few days away. I've been trying to keep up with what's been happening with you all by jumping on DH's laptop whenever I could but never had enough time to post and really only scanned everything.

Sophie is still doing really well and our daily routine works most of the time. She's still pretty clingy in the evenings and has just started being even more difficult for DH. Up until this last week, we have been able to take turns at rocking/patting her to sleep at night (during the day she goes down really easily) but now she cries when DH tries to do it but stops and settles within a minute when I take her. I'm really torn between persisting with DH having a go so that she gets used to someone other than me settling her and just wanting to take her myself because I know I can stop her crying - at the moment the second option is winning every time.

We're going to see the CHN tomorrow morning to get Sophie weighed. She's still drinking way less than recommended so I'm very curious to see what she has gained in the last fortnight. She certainly doesn't look like she's starving anyway...

Just a few personals because I can't remember it all and don't know how to multiquote :confused::o


Happy Birthday, Krixly!!!

Shana, so glad to hear that Xav behaved for you on the drive and that she has been sleeping well. It was lovely to meet you on Friday (and you too, Sasa!!).

Kaybee, sorry to hear about your yucky day. Hope today is a better one!!

Goose, hope you're feeling better soon and that those little kiddies let you have a sleep.

Right, I'm off to search the garage (still full of boxes from the move) for DS's shin pads as he has his first soccer training session of the season tonight - that's if it stops raining, I guess. DH did all the unpacking/storing when we moved so God only knows where they might be. Wish me luck...

kaybee
25-02-2008, 12:16
Goose - :hugs: hope you are feeling better soon! I'm not sure about your b**b, mine sometimes get like that if Ava has a marathon feeding session and sucks really hard, so it could just be the pump.

Kizmet - goodluck with the possible house purchase. DH and I want to buy next year, so I have to go back to work.
Well, she' still pretty much behaving herself :fingerscrossed:.

I tried expressing with my manual pump this morning. It was 1.5 hrs after her feed, but I only got 30ml after 10 minutes! It's better than it used to be where after 20 minutes I would have 5mls, but to make it worth while I would need to get more than that! It would take a long time to get 1 feed otherwise. hmmm

I also got some exciting mail, I bought some winter clothes for bub off ebay and it arrived today! It's all very cute, I'm so excited, I can't wait for the weather to be cool enough for her to wear them!!

Kizmet
25-02-2008, 12:17
Just a few personals because I can't remember it all and don't know how to multiquote :confused::o



when you see a post you want to quote from click on the button next to the quote button and it should turn an orange/red colour then after you have finished multi quoting click the post reply button and they will all turn up on the next page :D

AliyahBlake
25-02-2008, 12:45
I tried expressing with my manual pump this morning. It was 1.5 hrs after her feed, but I only got 30ml after 10 minutes! It's better than it used to be where after 20 minutes I would have 5mls, but to make it worth while I would need to get more than that! It would take a long time to get 1 feed otherwise. hmmm

Have you only just started today? It took me probably about 3 days of pumping in between feeds 2 times a day to increase my supply. I started off only getting about 40mls but the day or 2 before my pump broke I was getting about 80 or 90 per pumping session! I also found I got more in the morning as I was still full from overnight. Just give it a few days Kaybee, and I reckon you'll find it'll increase.

Hope you feel better soon, Goose....hey did you end up doing a preg test?

perrywinkle
25-02-2008, 13:44
Hey Everyone,

We've had a rough couple of nights here. Sounds like some of you have had rough nights too.

We went down at 7pm woke at 11.30 for a feed then again at 3am for a feed and woke every hour after that till 6am. I bought her into bed with me at 6am and feed her till 7am and we were wide awake.

I managed to re settle her at the 4am & 5am wake up but I have no idea what is going on. She has been sick with a little cold recently so I'm thinking because she was up frequently with that she still in that mode.

I have a book party to go to tonight but I'm not sure if I should put her to bed first then go or take her with me???? Hubby is not very good with settling her atm so I'd be worried sick the whole time I was there. Oh what to do?????

I have read everyones posts but I can't get motivated to write. It's even hard to write this so will have a quiet afternoon.

:wave:

Nan
25-02-2008, 14:59
Since our car got smashed in Thurs last week they have given us a corolla hatchback for 3 car seats they just fit but can't wait to get our old car back .
Oh, that's a bit silly. You think they'd give you a car you can use with your kids!!!! :thumbsdown:

DH is so cranky when he is tired, he wont get to see the kids very often, we wont get to see each other very often but if it is what i needed for about 6 months then so be it. not much we can do there.
Its awful when you get stuck in a situation like that. I hope you'll still get some quality time.

You know that universal rule where if one person loses weight, another gains it?? I was thinking there must be a 'sleeping baby' rule too . . . .If one baby is sleeping - another is awake!
I reckon you're on to something there!!

Nothing we did would settle her, using the dummy and walking around patting & rocking, reduced the crying to a grizzle and that was it. I was so tired and had sore legs after doing that on and off for hours.
Oh hun, that sounds awful. :hugs: Its hard when they have days like that. Glad she's on the right track now.

Besides isnt mastitis just one red lump?? There isnt a lump its just red all around and tender and dore.. Any thoughts??
Sorry to hear you aren't well, goose. Mastitis isn't necessarily red. It can be red, from the heat of the infection, but generally its more like hard lumps of blocked milk that get infected coz they aren't flowing freely. Yours sounds like its from the expressing. That's what used to happen to mine when I would express.

DH did all the unpacking/storing when we moved so God only knows where they might be. Wish me luck...
Good Luck!!! :babydust2: Yay for a new computer, too!

It's better than it used to be where after 20 minutes I would have 5mls

I also got some exciting mail, I bought some winter clothes for bub off ebay and it arrived today! It's all very cute, I'm so excited, I can't wait for the weather to be cool enough for her to wear them!!
Ooooooh, I love getting mail like that. How exciting! Your expressing sounds like me, too!

Hubby is not very good with settling her atm so I'd be worried sick the whole time I was there. Oh what to do????
I would do whatever is going to give you the most peace of mind. Nothing worse than going out and wondering the whole time. :no:

Well, we just had nice lunch with my SIL and her nieces. Shane took a couple of hours off work to join us, so that was nice. They go back to Canberra tomorrow & we probably wont see them again until Christmas. :crying:

Caleb is doing great.....been sleeping 8pm til 7am with a dream feed at 10pm consistently for almost 2 weeks now. I'm loving the sleep. Here's hoping there's no turning back for him.....apart from when teeth rear their ugly heads of course. :devil: Not looking forward to that at all.

Moops
25-02-2008, 20:25
WHo said something about a full moon??!!!! I l have had the most stressful few days ever!!! You wouldn't believe how many things have gone wrong lol.. Haven't ready any posts at all. Will catch up tomorrow. Off to bed for now, and will fill you all in then. Miss you guys xx oo xx and the sanity & humour! XX oo XX

Oh no hun hope you're doing ok now! Look forward to catching up with all your news soon!


:laughing: Robbie discovered little robbie a few weeks ago and i obsessed! Everytime the nappy is off he is like woohoo hands straight there wont leave it alone which makes it so easy to nappy change!

Gosh I hadn't even thought of this! Oh the joys to look forward to!!

[quote=sasa;2397050]Moops I here you where driving behind Gordon Ramsay! I love his kitchen nightmares Show, Ramsay is a classic!

Yep! He actually lives down the road from me. I've seen him from afar in his ferrari before but yesterday DH and I were at the lights near our house and an Aston Martin DB9 was in front of us. DH commented on the car cos it is like $400k and he said I wonder if it is Gordon Ramsay, I looked at the number plate which was 27 GOR so I said it was likely and yep it was! I laughed that lucky we didn't run up the back of him, we would have been in trouble!!

Well Saturday night Luca did much better and did a 7 hour sleep which was great but last night he was unsettled again. We have put him on new milk for hungrier babies and I don't think he likes it cos he's only drinking 90-120mls every feed so I'm going to switch back. When do u start to worry that they aren't drinking enough??

westerner
25-02-2008, 20:29
When they are not having enough wet nappies in a 24hr period moops...
Other wise the guide on the formula tin is simply an estimate so dont stress..:hugs:



Well i have mastitis.. :( :( :( :( Youchie..

sandralee
25-02-2008, 21:16
Gosh guys! Now I know what it feels like to miss a few days on here LoL!! :laughing: Plus I am kackered from taking all the info in! Was SO strung out from fri-sun night - had the shop playing on my mind, dad here to help, & was going to leave Noah wth Steve while we finished moving everything out on saturday. That aLONE was a massive feat for me.. then add fleas to the mix! Found a couple on my foot in the nursery & totally freaked out - my worst nightmare actually! Wanted to move out until they were exterminated cos I know how quickly they can multiply - apparently when pets are moved out of the house, fleas turn to humans for their food source EW! After all this wet weather the pest control people said they were fully booked til 3/3 cos there were so many kinds of creepy crawlies surfacing. Used 15 flea bombs in the meantime, but had to evacuate the house on that roasting 40 degree+ saturday when it was soooo hot, AND take Noah out into the heat, and figure out how to feed him and get him to sleep both at my shop & then outdoors once we got home cos the flea bomb smoke had to settle first before we could go inside. Ok, so we arrive at my shop in the heat to pack the heavy stuff, when the whole street lost power..on the hottest day in ages!!! So my aircon in the shop went AWOL & my little sprog got cranky in the heat.. I have neer been so HOT.. so had to sit with him in my car so he was cool & left ANdy & Dad to pack the trailer... while I watched frm inside a cool car feeling guilty (& frazzled, trying to keep my little man entertained..then Noah got bored cos he likes to see everything and move around..was really tired but wouldn't sleep lol...& I couldn't make him up a bottle without putting him down..which he didn't want to happen cos he was all clingy & dribbly & grumpy! We had limited time to do it in as well, so I didn't want to ask Dad or Andy for help - we were racing against the clock as it was, & just wanted to get everyone out of the heat asap. Noah drank so little too, there was too much going on & we were out in the heat for most of the day & he couldn't sleep either. We didn't get back inside til about 4pm, so everything felt out of whack. Needless to say, he needed to make up for lack of fluids, & had some wake-ups through the night! Grrr! He had a really cr@ppy day yesterday... MINI sleeps if we were lucky, grizzly & unsettled, he was really quite 'off' & we were all extremely tired. Had to also wash all bedlinen/cushion covers etc from the bombs, wash & clean toy mats, toys etc, unpack shop stuff - all this on top of normal everyday stuff.. which I normally find full-on with just a baby to take care of! Then Andy came home from work saying that he had a tick in his head at work. JEEZ! & his boss pulled it out, but left the head in.. so took dad and I a few hours to dislodge the head (after much googling), but couldn't get the 'beak' out.. so had to book him into the dr today. My post seems too long to babble on with everything else, but it was one thing on top of another & pretty constant unitl this arvo! & I still have oodles of washing etc to do, + all the normal stuff I usually do on weekends!
Fleas gross me out!! Our dogs used to come in at night & sleep in the laundry, but we recently put aircon in the garage so they could be moved outside the house. Apparently this is when fleas attack humans.. when pets are moved or if they die, cos they seek new hosts. They haven't had fleas before & I am wondering if it was from the mobile 'doggy spa' treatment they get. The gardener said that they are everywhere at the moment though, not just at our place lol. <shudder>
Also found 2 redbacks in our family room.. dangling at knee level from their webs!!! THe only downside to living out of town a bit, all the creepy crawlies & snakes! Can't wait for the pest people to come now! Will reply using multi quotes tomorrow when I get a chance, read all the posts I missed out on finally - going to get some sleep & start fresh tomorrow. Feel rude not replying now but my brain is already shutting down for the night...
Sounds like a lot has been happening with you little cherubs too - more babies sleeping longer/better at night YAY! THe last 2 nights for me have been more interrupted than what I was used to, so hope that sorts out quickly. Very quickly. Godspeed even.
Sweet dreams blossoms! Moops maybe your DH needs to get aquainted with some chill pills..hmmm... did a certain somebody forget where he left his 'happy face' LOL?!
Love to you all XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:hugs::kiss:

sandralee
25-02-2008, 21:20
p.s. I don't know if what I wrote even makes sense...meh.. too tired to care! :Dxx

Rianna
25-02-2008, 21:21
Hi everyone,
Had the weekend away which was lovely, it was our 5th anniversary. We went to a winery for lunch with Luigi which was a bit nerve wracking but it turned out to be lovely. When Luigi played up a bit and I was trying to eat one handed the owner came and offered to hold him while I ate :) I thought that was so sweet!

Anyway, enough about me!

Goose :hugs: You poor darling! I haven't had mastitis but a few of my friends have and say that it's excruciating. You poor thing!!

Moops, I'm not sure how you know they're drinking enough. I did hear somewhere that they should be drinking 150ml of formula per kilo of weight but that could be rubbish?? Luigi does drink around about that though.

Periwinkle :hugs: I hope you did go to the book party and are feeling a bit better now. Sounds like you need some R & R!! Fingers crossed that you get heaps of sleep tonight.


Krixly, happybirthday belatedly! Sorry I missed it.

Well, better toddle off to do my dream feed. Bye!!

Roxy76
25-02-2008, 21:54
Yeah, Moops, I just saw your status on FB too! I love Kitchen Nightmares too, Gordon is so in your face - just love it when he swears his head off at people!:laughing:


just saw the ad and it is now on two nights per week!! Tuesdays AND Thursdays! cool! luv that show! :thumbsup: when we used to have foxtel, Hell's Kitchen was awesome too!

Moops
26-02-2008, 06:02
Just put Luca to bed, I'm willing him to sleep for a long time!! :wizard: He woke up after 45 minutes (which he never does anymore) so it isn't looking good! D'oh he just woke up again, I'm soooo tired!!

I forgot to say, last night I got the biggest fright. I went in to check on him as he is in his cot now and I'm a bit worried about blankets etc. Anyway I peered over and couldn't see him breathing so I gently nudged him and he didn't move so I nudged him harder and he still didn't move, I'm starting to panic now so I pushed him really hard and still nothing!! I honestly thought that he was dead, I think my heart stopped. Then very casually he moves, I was so relieved!! Needless to say he woke up after that lol.

He's awake again! :hair:

melbryan
26-02-2008, 07:35
Can I join the tired club Moops Ds2 is getting his molars and he is screaming so went to sleep in his room last night. Ashtons doing OK but chose to wake at 3.30am and then at 6.30am. I had a big day yesterday so am tired today. Need to get some waxing done so will hopefuly do it tomorrow. I stay up late to watch Gordon he cracks me up but he is so right.

Kiz good luck with the house it is such a big investment and you don't want to get it wrong.

Nan the car is OK and just fits us all in it a very tight squeeze

SL- fleas suck, my Dh is a gardener and theya re everywhere at the moment especially in long grass.


Well a quiet day today went shopping for some home decos yesterday to get our house ready to seel still want to buy some cushions and do the kids rooms up, will see what I can find going cheap. I painted some canvases last night and paper pieced a car, truck and boat for Ds1's wall and want to doa photo collage for all their walls as I have so many photos.

Anyway Ashton needs a sleep,
Mel x

Rainbowbrite
26-02-2008, 08:07
Ouchy Goose :hugs: Hope it clears up real soon!!!

Melbryan, where are you moving to?

Another tired house here too, I just can't keep my eyes open lately. Too much running around, need a few days at home (except then I have to do housework :()

SL, we had flea's here a few years ago, they are such a pain :thumbsdown: You can get a powder flea solution from some pet supplirs & fumigate your own house. Works out a lot cheaper & works too :yes: Can't think at the moment though, but call a big pet supply place!!

Need to ask some advice, how do I re-settle Ani? He will only sleep for 45 mins at a stretch unless its in bed with me & I give him boob. Sorry to colour it but i'm desperate.

Hope your all well :hugs:

Nan
26-02-2008, 08:22
Morning gals.
Caleb is down for his morning sleep, so I thought I'd come check how you're all doing before kindergym today!

Moops - Sorry to hear still no sleep for you. I hope Luca settles back down again soon. Sometimes it takes a while for them to get back into an old routine. :hugs: Its scary when they get in that 'completely out of it' mode isn't it? I know my heart has raced a few times over the last couple of years.

sands - OMG! Moving day sounds absolutely terrible and to have to get rid of creapy crawlies on top of that is SOOOOO tiring, you poor thing. :hugs: I hope you're sleeping & napping when you can.

mel - Sounds like you're a crafty one! Painting your own canvases......good on you! Good luck with the photo collages. They sound cool.

Rianna - Happy Anniversary! Your anniversary outing sounds lovely. What a nice person to help you with Luigi. :yes:

RB - Did you get the kindergym info? I think its on the old thread, so I wasn't sure.

Roxy - I love your new avatar. What a gorgeous little cherub you have there. She's grown so much!

goose - So sorry to hear it is mastitis. :hugs: Do you have any cabbage leaves to put inside your bras? The middies at my hospital actually sent me home with a bag full as my b**bs were so huge they thought they'd better for precautionary reasons!!! :laughing: Thankfully I didn't get engorged, so I didn't need them. I used them when I had it with Eden and they worked a treat.......very smelly though, so I only used them at night and also got some antibiotics.

We're Gordon Ramsey fans here, too. He's amazing how he can taste something and just know if its fresh and what has been put into it. I wish I could do that! He's one of the few people on TV at the moment who can get me laughing out loud. Having said that....did anyone watch Grey's Anatomy on Sunday night? Izzy said something that had me laughing for about 2 minutes. I couldn't stop. That show has such good writing! Always makes me laugh!

Well, I'd better get off here and go shower. Might be back later.......we have friends coming for tea and I still haven't decided what to make! :no: Aaaaaaarrrrggghhhh!

Kizmet
26-02-2008, 08:25
RB- I wish I had advice! Robbie is the same! 45 mins and that is it I try to get him jsut before he wakes up but as soon as he sees/hears/smells me he is wide awake. I rock him, re-wrap him nothing works! Oh one thing works...feeding him but that is why he is 6.8 kilos :laughing: I find myself standing with my head on his cot just thinking in my head please just sleep robbie please just sleep over and over and over again. We didnt have a good day yesterday can you tell :laughing:

One idea im currently thinking of doing which i know sounds quite odd but i think could work. Is taking a close up photo of my face and printing it out and sticking it on the side of his cot...that way i might get 4 steps away from the cot before he starts!

How do you get them to want to sleep after being awake for over 2 hours as well! Rob would literally be awake all day if I let him!

Im so tired!

westerner
26-02-2008, 08:34
goose - So sorry to hear it is mastitis. :hugs: Do you have any cabbage leaves to put inside your bras? The middies at my hospital actually sent me home with a bag full as my b**bs were so huge they thought they'd better for precautionary reasons!!! :laughing: Thankfully I didn't get engorged, so I didn't need them. I used them when I had it with Eden and they worked a treat.......very smelly though, so I only used them at night and also got some antibiotics.


Yep i have them in the freezer.. doctor told me too..

Should of seen the look on DP face last night when he got home gave me a kiss and saw cabbage sticking out from my bra.. :laughing:
He looked at it and just said, 'i dont even wanna know'.. lol

But i did stick in in my top and then tried to figure out what stunk.. Checked both kids nappys then sat down for a few mins with a puzzled look on my face till i figured it out... doh :rolleyes: :laughing:


Those ladies with sleep issues have you tried wrapping again?? Kaitlyn doesn't get wrapped anymore unless she is over tired or grumpy and it does the trick and gets her off to sleep..

Could you also try putting a sheet in there cot that you have cuddled/slept with etc so they can smell you..

6.8kg is ok Kiz.. 2weeks ago at weigh in miss K was 8.5kg.. :eek: Will get her weighed again today my big boofer..

Rainbowbrite
26-02-2008, 08:35
:laughing: Kate thats an idea :p

Nan, I did get the info, thanks so much. Will look into finding one close for MJ :yes:

Meant to add, with the re-settling, Ani will only sleep wrapped, he loves being all snug :D He can't get out, I wrap too tight :o

kaybee
26-02-2008, 09:42
When do u start to worry that they aren't drinking enough??

Moops - I think as long as he is doing 6-8 wet nappies in a 24 hour period, then he's getting enough. I worried about that early on too.


I forgot to say, last night I got the biggest fright. I went in to check on him as he is in his cot now and I'm a bit worried about blankets etc. Anyway I peered over and couldn't see him breathing so I gently nudged him and he didn't move so I nudged him harder and he still didn't move, I'm starting to panic now so I pushed him really hard and still nothing!! I honestly thought that he was dead, I think my heart stopped. Then very casually he moves, I was so relieved!! Needless to say he woke up after that lol.

He's awake again! :hair:

I've had that happen too, your heart is in your mouth until they stir or breathe!


I painted some canvases last night and paper pieced a car, truck and boat for Ds1's wall and want to doa photo collage for all their walls as I have so many photos.


Wow Mel, you crafty girl, I wish I was a bit more that way inclined! I finally framed up some wedding photo's for the wall on the weekend, 2 years after the event!


Need to ask some advice, how do I re-settle Ani? He will only sleep for 45 mins at a stretch unless its in bed with me & I give him boob. Sorry to colour it but i'm desperate.



RB- I wish I had advice! Robbie is the same! 45 mins and that is it I try to get him jsut before he wakes up but as soon as he sees/hears/smells me he is wide awake. I rock him, re-wrap him nothing works! Oh one thing works...feeding him but that is why he is 6.8 kilos :laughing: I find myself standing with my head on his cot just thinking in my head please just sleep robbie please just sleep over and over and over again. We didnt have a good day yesterday can you tell :laughing:

How do you get them to want to sleep after being awake for over 2 hours as well! Rob would literally be awake all day if I let him!

Im so tired!

RB & Kiz - I have the same problem, Ava wont sleep during the day, then I have a feral bub in the evening! Yesterday, she only had 2x45 minutes sleeps, so then at 7.30pm as we were going to eat tea, she went off, and wouldn't settle for 45 minutes, screaming, she was sooo over-tired! DH has re-named her "The Banshee". I do find wrapping helps a little, but she wont accept her arms being wrapped anymore, so I just do it around her chest.



Could you also try putting a sheet in there cot that you have cuddled/slept with etc so they can smell you..


A friend of mine suggested this too, I might try it tomorrow.

Sorry to hear about your mastitis Goose, :hugs:ouch! I found the cabbage worked well when I was engorged at the beginning.

Sands - sorry your weekend was so bad! :hugs:

Rianna - glad you had a nice anniversary weekend! Ours is in 3 weeks, haven't thought about what we'll do to celebrate. Might be able to get in-laws to babysit for a couple of hours so we can go out for dinner.

Lozie
26-02-2008, 10:44
Sorry I'm only posting every blue moon :o, I can never find the time to post these days, Well i wont bore you all with my troubles but I will tell ya's all about Balin! He is getting so big almost sitting by himself and he is 12 weeks tomorrow, he is grumpy atm but i'm thinking its the 3 month growing thing so not too worried, I have found to he likes to cuddle a blanket to go to sleep and now refuses boob as a sleep aid and would rather have his dummy which is good from me, he's been sleeping well not a good as he used to but still good he'll go down about 7.30ish and when he used to wake at 4amish it's now about 2am then he'll just sleep with me on the boob the rest of the night, like last night where i woke up and had little bruises over my nipple cause he's was trying to attach but couldnt get it right so now my boobs a re killing me! On to me now, since going to the gym i have lost 1kg not much i know but i have lost a total of 20cm in the 3 weeks i have been going:smiliedance:

Goose :hugs: it's horrible huh, when i had it the doc said to make sure you hand express often massaging the blocked ducts, it should clear up soon,

:hugs:to all the tired mummies would write more but my lil tanty man is yelling at me should really see what he wants take care ladies:wave:

AliyahBlake
26-02-2008, 11:53
I love multiquotes.........get ready, there's a few!!
just saw the ad and it is now on two nights per week!! Tuesdays AND Thursdays! cool! luv that show!
Excellent, will have to watch it!




I forgot to say, last night I got the biggest fright. I went in to check on him as he is in his cot now and I'm a bit worried about blankets etc. Anyway I peered over and couldn't see him breathing so I gently nudged him and he didn't move so I nudged him harder and he still didn't move, I'm starting to panic now so I pushed him really hard and still nothing!! I honestly thought that he was dead, I think my heart stopped. Then very casually he moves, I was so relieved!! Needless to say he woke up after that lol.

I hate it when they scare you like that! Aliyah used to do things like that when she was a baby - Blake does stuff like put the wrap over his face etc, but I don't panic as much as he's the second bub. It's amazing how much more relaxed you are about stuff like that the second time around!





Need to ask some advice, how do I re-settle Ani? He will only sleep for 45 mins at a stretch unless its in bed with me & I give him boob. Sorry to colour it but i'm desperate.

Blake does that quite often too - I try and resettle him by rewrapping and then I just let him cry for a bit. Some people don't like the controlled crying thing, but it does work. If he gets too distressed I go in but usually if he's going to fall back asleep he'll do it pretty quickly. Sometimes, though, 45 - 60 mins is all he needs and if he's happy I just get him up.




Having said that....did anyone watch Grey's Anatomy on Sunday night? Izzy said something that had me laughing for about 2 minutes. I couldn't stop. That show has such good writing! Always makes me laugh!

I absolutely LOVE Greys.........being a nurse, I used to hate watching all those "medical" shows like All Saints and ER, but Greys is different, and yes, it makes me laugh!




One idea im currently thinking of doing which i know sounds quite odd but i think could work. Is taking a close up photo of my face and printing it out and sticking it on the side of his cot...that way i might get 4 steps away from the cot before he starts!

:laughing::laughing:Sounds a bit crazy Kizmet, but it could work! Another thing I've seen suggested is to get a blankie or teddy, put it in your bed for a couple of nights so it has your scent on it, then put it in the cot with bub. They love having mummy's smell and it can help settle them.



On to me now, since going to the gym i have lost 1kg not much i know but i have lost a total of 20cm in the 3 weeks i have been going:smiliedance:

:yelclap:Well done Lozie!! I popped into a local gym today called Contours - they are a circuit only gym and you do 29 minute sessions. I think I might sign up but have to chat to Craig about finances first - with me on maternity leave we haven't got much for extras at the moment. I'd love to do it for a few reasons - I need "me time", I want some more cardiovascular fitness, and I need to tone the tum, bum and "schmackos" (tricep area!). My work gives you $250 a year towards health and wellbeing, so I'm going to ring my boss and see if I can use it even though I'm on maternity leave :fingerscrossed:

Kittylou
26-02-2008, 12:06
Moops - I agree with the other girls about wet nappies. Also, if he is happy enough after and in between feeds then I wouldn't worry and longer term (like over a month or two), his weight gain will let you know he is having enough. I know exactly how you feel though as you may have read that I have been having the same issue with Sophie forever.

Sandra -yuck, what a horrible time!!

Rianna - congrats on your anniversary. Glad you enjoyed it.

RB - :hugs: I'm sorry I really don't have any advice for you but I can totally empathise. Sophie used to only ever sleep in 45 minute blocks and it was absolutely exhausting. Now she usually gives me one long sleep during the day and a couple of short ones. In the afternoon there is no resettling her - she has about 35 minutes and that's it until bedtime. In the middle of the day though I can often resettle her if she wakes. I just have to walk around patting her for a while to get her back to sleep. Sometimes the only way to get her to have more sleep if she's woken is to just let her sleep on me. Not ideal but as long as she's getting some sleep I'm happy. Having said that, it doesn't happen very often anymore so it's a lot easier to take (and of course I don't have another little one at home to take care of like you). So,as I said, no advice but I do feel for you.

Well, I went and got Sophie weighed this morning. She has gained 290 grams in a fortnight so I'm happy. My CHN mentioned early introduction of solids again (but not before 4.5 months) because she isn't drinking much but, if she continues gaining weight like this, I would rather just hold out until 6 months. It's really not that far away and I can't imagine her being ready for solids in 4 weeks time. Plus, she's perfectly content so I guess she just doesn't have a very big appetite. She's not exactly a small girl though - she now weighs 6.56kg and looks nice and healthy.

Rainbowbrite
26-02-2008, 12:39
Thanks ladies.

I don't think i'll worry about his sleeping. He generally has 2 short sleeps (45-70mins) in the morning & then in the afternoon I lay down with both kiddies & we sleep for abour 2 hours. I just feed Ani if he stirs & then get up with MJ & leave him in my bed. He sleeps up to 3hours that way.

If i'm out its not an issue, I just have him in either the Moby or ring sling & he sleeps. Will have to try getting him to sleep in the pram though........MJ never did.

Nice to see you back Lozie :hugs: feel free to vent to us anytime, most of us have older ones that we vent about :p

Kittylou, she doesn't sound like she needs anymore yet. Just do it when your ready. They tried to pressure me into feeding MJ early :rolleyes: Didn't make her any bigger, she is still wearing size 0 & 1 pants at almost 3yrs old!

Want to try to go to the clinic & get Ani weighed tomorrow but will have to go by bus so will see how we're feeling. I can't believe he is 3 months already!!!

sasa
26-02-2008, 12:58
Hey Everyone, I am trying to get a million things done while both the girls are asleep so will do personals real quick.. from memory too! Ha! See how I go…

Rianna HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!

Goose, sorry to hear about the mastitis, hope it clears up really quick!

Sands, What a weekend! Sorry to hear about the fleas, and the mission cleaning out your shop, atleast it is done now, and lucky you had your family too help. Hope things have settled down a bit for you and your getting things back to ‘normal’ a bit.

RB on the resettling I sometimes rock back in forward till her eyes start to close again then pop her back in the cradle, usually will only take a couple of minutes if she is still ready for more sleep. Good luck, it can be frustrating!

Moops you poor thing, I know that feeling it is horrible!

Kiz cracking me up with the photo of your face idea! lol

Melbryan good on you for finding the time to get al crafty, you may have just inspred me to get the paintbrushes out again!

Nan good luck with dinner tonight! I am sure you’ll make something yummo!

Roxy thanks for the heads up bout Ramsay, will have to remember it is one twice.

Lozie wow 20cm! Well done! You must be stoked!

AB – good luck getting work to cover your gym cost, that would be great!

Had another great night here, to bed at 7pm again and slept till…. 6am! 11 hours I can’t believe it, she has just been so awesome! So yeah feel pretty good after a full nights sleep today. Have been giving her a few more bottles of formula during the day and only maybe 2-3 BF’s over a 24 hour period so maybe that has something to do with it?? Whatever it is, I love it! Hopefully no more 4am wake ups! Ha! Can only hope.

Thinking of getting Granny to come over on Friday night so DF and I can go out for dinner, put both the girls to bed and then hopefully I won’t have to worry about either of them waking or having to be settled by Granny, DD1 is right but I am not sure how I feel about leaving DD2 just yet, but a couple of hours while she is asleep will be great for DF and I.

Just made some yummy yummy zucchini and ham muffins with DD1 for lunch, I hadn’t made them before and I am so impressed by them if anyone else wants the recipe… great snack for the little ones!

Be back soon, DF is coming home for lunch so better make some sandwiches!

That quick post turned out being a little longer... xxx

perrywinkle
26-02-2008, 13:02
Hi everyone,
Had the weekend away which was lovely, it was our 5th anniversary. We went to a winery for lunch with Luigi which was a bit nerve wracking but it turned out to be lovely. When Luigi played up a bit and I was trying to eat one handed the owner came and offered to hold him while I ate :) I thought that was so sweet!

Periwinkle :hugs: I hope you did go to the book party and are feeling a bit better now. Sounds like you need some R & R!! Fingers crossed that you get heaps of sleep tonight.

Glad you had a great time away!

And no I didn't end up going. Alice didn't go to sleep till 8.30 and the party started at 7.30pm so it was all too hard! But I'm getting lots of books!!


Having said that....did anyone watch Grey's Anatomy on Sunday night? Izzy said something that had me laughing for about 2 minutes. I couldn't stop. That show has such good writing! Always makes me laugh!

Oh I love Greys too. It's one of my fave's!!!

Well I think I have my little girl back! She took at little while to settle last night but she slept from 8.30pm-5.30am and then back down till 8.45am!!! :yelclap:

She's going through a phase of if I leave her she gets upset because she can't see me. She's sitting on my lap right now, grizzling because she's tired!!

Better go be back soon!

Moops
26-02-2008, 16:35
Hi everyone!

We had a slightly better night last night, we went back to the old milk and he is drinking alot more. We also ordered a new cot last night as he hates his crib and is too big for it....I hope he likes it!

I forgot to say Sands, wow what a weekend! Hope u have recovered and will come back and chat!! I couldn't stop scratching after hearing about the fleas!

Luca is booked in for swimming lessons and starts on the 14th April! I have also booked into a thing called buggy fit on Thursday mornings where the mums do exercise in the park with the babies in their prams, should be interesting!

sasa
26-02-2008, 16:55
Perrywinkle, great to hear that Alice is back to her old self!

Moops sounds like things are much better for you guys atm too! Buggy fit sounds great! Wonder if they have anything like that here?? Should be lots of fun and good to get out and meet some other mums too.

sandralee
26-02-2008, 21:57
aaah! Only have a few mins until dreamfeed time & so much to say LOL! My dad is still here, & have had my hands full with my teenager + figuring out my next steps with Noah and his smallish feeds.. rang a 'parenting consultant' from John FLynn MAternity & gave her headlines - she is coming out friday morning at 9am to observe and help me get to the bottom of it all so I have some peace. Charges $100 for first hour, 80 for the second hour and 70 for the third. She actually thinks it's reflux but wants to make sure. Happier with her diagnosing cos she will be spending time wit u in our home, rather than a paed tossing the term around loosely after a few mins in his office - so will see what happens. Still haven't caugh up on posts (BUT I WILL, AND CAN"T WAIT TO!) and still miss you guys lol. I am so excited about friday, cos doing one feed in front of a CHN wouldn't be long enough to observe all his different behaviours. Also buying a chicco polly highchair tomorrow, so Noah can be upright & have something different to play in & reach toys etc. It is suitable from 3mths so will give it a whirl.. $300 later LOL.. so many contraptions.... & the list could go on for ages hey?! Growth spurts every couple of weeks, different toys for different stages (and for prams.. & playmats.. and the car.. and the bouncer.. the bath.....yada yada)
Sweet dreams, and hope I get to do my bubhub catch up tomorrw! Hehe.. can you imagine how much multi quoting will be going on? Lotsa love XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Kizmet
27-02-2008, 07:02
good morning ladies!

well we tried out something different last night and put Robbie to sleep in his own room in his cot. John asked me if i could look after him last night so he could see what sleep felt like :rolleyes:

Put him down to bed with a bottle (although he wasnt due) at 7:30-8pm and he woke up at 12ish stirring for the dummy but i gave him a dreamfeed then anyway. He slept until 4:30 (our plan was if robbie woke before 4 he was in my duty of care but after 4 he was john;s as he gets up around then for work anyway. So John tottled in to him (read: so I kicked john out of bed and made him go in )and gave him a bottle and he has just woken up not so long ago and had another bottle and is now asleep again


I think it is success.

AliyahBlake
27-02-2008, 07:46
Good luck with the consultant Sands, hope you get some answers! :thumbsup:

Blake's going through a bit of a routine change at the moment. He's been very fussy with his feeds the last few days, and doesn't seem to be hungry at all. He feeds a bit on one side and then doesn't seem to want the other side. He's still on 3 hourly feeds, but really doesn't want a feed then, so I think it's time to stretch the feeds to 4 hourly. I'm starting today, so I'll see how it goes! Still waiting on delivery of my breast pump - hopefully it'll turn up today.

Blake had his first giggle in the bath last night. He has had a little laugh before but it resembled more of an excited shriek - the one last night was a definite chuckle. Craig came in while I was bathing him last night and started splashing the water and Blake just full on cracked up! It was soooooo gorgeous - he would only laugh when Craig splashed though, not when I did it!

It'll be good to catch up with all you Sydney girls tomorrow if everyone's going :D

perrywinkle
27-02-2008, 09:14
Sands - Goodluck with your consult!!!

Kiz - :fingerscrossed: Robbie will keep up the good work for you! Sounds like he'll do well in his cot!

AB - Sounds like Blake is going to be a daddy's boy! Hope your breast pump arrives today!

Not a bad night here went down at 7pm woke at 3.30am then at 6.30am so I've definately got her back.

She did her first roll yesterday! It was so cute and she was shocked that she went from belly to back. She's so close to go from back to belly too so that will come in time!

Well I have started studying now so you wont see me around as much but will still read how everyone is going just wont post as much.

Have a good day everyone! :wave:

kaybee
27-02-2008, 10:33
I'm feeling a bit down today. :gloomy: This morning I was holding her while DH was getting ready for work, and I thought: "I just don't want to do this today, I've had enough.":no:

She's just being so trying at the moment! :hair:

Yesterday, she didn't sleep in the morning but had a good long nap mid afternoon, so I thought that we might have an easier time last night. Not to be. She wasn't screaming, but some crying and grizzling all evening, didn't go to sleep till after her second feed at 10.30pm. DH didn't get home till 8.15pm, I hadn't been able to prepare anything for dinner, so he just made us toasted sandwiches!

During the night she was unsettled, at 5am she really started up so I thought I'd better go and feed her, went to the loo on the way, then I got into her room and she had gone back to sleep! She didn't wake again till 7.30am so my bb's were bursting!

She's only slept for 40 minutes since and is now grizzling in her bouncer, I just really wish she would shut up! I can't seem to settle her at all and all I want to do is go to bed and cry but I can't.

Sorry for this whinge girls. I have to pick her up and try again.

AliyahBlake
27-02-2008, 10:39
Good luck with the studying, PW :thumbsup:
:hugs: Kaybee - it's rough when you have a couple of bad days in a row, especially if DH gets home from work late. I find if I'm having a bad day with the kids, I'm hanging for Craig to get home so he can help. I get so cranky if he does overtime on these days (I know we need the extra money, but sometimes it's better just to have someone to help you instead!) I hope Ava settles down and gives you a break very soon.

shymmer
27-02-2008, 11:38
Oh Kaybee . . . I know how you feel. I have had so many of those days. It's actually worse when you have a good few days/weeks and then they act up because you've gotten a taste of the sleep you are missing out on!
I do think it's sleep related - your lack of!
My advice - go into the bedroom and have that cry if it eases the tension you are feeling.

Is she teething? Having a growth spurt? It helps your patience a great deal if you can name the problem.
I think Xav is having a growth spurt at the moment, she is hungrier than normal. And I also think she is reaching some developmental milestones, so that could be making her a little more unsettled.
Only last night I thought - oh can't wait to go to bed and sleep all night . . . ugh, hang on a minunte, I can't . . . I have a baby to look after!!!

Rianna
27-02-2008, 12:17
:hugs: Kaybee, I don't really have any words of wisdom but I do know exactly how you feel. Sometimes it just gets on top of you, especially when you haven't had enough sleep. I'm like AliyahBlake, on those days I am DYING for DH to get home and take him for an hour or so. You start to feel a bit suffocated. I think the toughest thing about being a mummy is the constancy. You can't just decide not to do it for a day or even a half an hour, you are on call all day and night! I agree with Shana, sometimes a good cry clears the air (mind you, I'm Italian and we tend to be a bit overemotional!)

shymmer
27-02-2008, 12:32
HAHA Rianna - I'm half Italian!! Here here! for a good bawling session!!!!

Rainbowbrite
27-02-2008, 15:47
Thinking of getting Granny to come over on Friday night so DF and I can go out for dinner, put both the girls to bed and then hopefully I won’t have to worry about either of them waking or having to be settled by Granny, DD1 is right but I am not sure how I feel about leaving DD2 just yet, but a couple of hours while she is asleep will be great for DF and I.

Half your luck!! I would love to get out, just DH & I but have no-one we can trust with the kids


Well I think I have my little girl back! She took at little while to settle last night but she slept from 8.30pm-5.30am and then back down till 8.45am!!!

She's going through a phase of if I leave her she gets upset because she can't see me. She's sitting on my lap right now, grizzling because she's tired!!

Great to here she is getting better!!
Ani is doing the same thing, has to be either with me or able to see me. So cute, yet so restrictive!


Luca is booked in for swimming lessons and starts on the 14th April! I have also booked into a thing called buggy fit on Thursday mornings where the mums do exercise in the park with the babies in their prams, should be interesting!

Great to hear that Luca is getting better :hugs:

I was looking at swimming for Anakin but they don't do it where MJ is till 6 months. Her teacher told me not to bother enrolling him, that she'll give me things to do with him in the bath rather than spending money on lessons for both of them


rang a 'parenting consultant' from John FLynn MAternity & gave her headlines - she is coming out friday morning at 9am to observe and help me get to the bottom of it all so I have some peace. Charges $100 for first hour, 80 for the second hour and 70 for the third. She actually thinks it's reflux but wants to make sure.

That sound fantastic!! Good luck with it!


well we tried out something different last night and put Robbie to sleep in his own room in his cot. John asked me if i could look after him last night so he could see what sleep felt like

We seriously need to leave our 2 "men" together with the kids & let them see how hard it really is :yes: We haven't slept in YEARS!!

Goodluck with spacing out feeds AB. Cant wait to meet you all tomorrow :smiliedance:

Goodluck with the study Perrywinkle!! I'm tossing up whether to do something via correspondence next semester.

Oh Kaybee :hugs: Really wish you could make it tomorrow. Hope you get some rest soon hun. Will she just play on the bed while you have a doze? Put pillows near the edge so she doesn't roll off.

Had a pretty bad night here. Between storms, snoring DH, dogs barking & Ani waking at 2.30 & 5am i've been so tired all day.

Having trouble getting him to sleep of a day still. Might just give in & bf him to sleep. Can train him when he's older, just wont leave it as long as we did with MJ.

Hope your all well :hugs:

Goodluck with spacing out feeds AB. Cant wait to meet you all tomorrow :smiliedance:

kaybee
27-02-2008, 16:59
Only last night I thought - oh can't wait to go to bed and sleep all night . . . ugh, hang on a minunte, I can't . . . I have a baby to look after!!!


I think the toughest thing about being a mummy is the constancy. You can't just decide not to do it for a day or even a half an hour, you are on call all day and night!

Shana & Rianna - I agree that I think it's the fact you can't have a break. Like of you're having a bad day at work you can just go: Only an hour till home time and then I can go home and relax. Or even if it's a bad week, you've got the weekend to look forward to. When you're at home with a baby there is no "weekend"!


Oh Kaybee :hugs: Really wish you could make it tomorrow. Hope you get some rest soon hun. Will she just play on the bed while you have a doze? Put pillows near the edge so she doesn't roll off.


RB that's exactly what I ended up doing. She went to sleep for 20 minutes in her cot after lunch and wouldn't settle. We lay down on our bed at 4.30. She grizzled for 20 minutes, then went to sleep, so we had around 20 minutes napping then she woke up hungry. After a feed she is still whinging, so she's squirming on my lap as I try and type. I wish I could see you guys tomorrow too! At least I have mother's group tomorrow so will get out of the house for a few hours.

DH was going to be late home again, as he has to run an errand and drop something off at his parents place. Now he is coming home first and taking Ava with him, so I can have a break for around an hour! Bless him.

Thanks all of you for your kind thoughts!!:hugs:
She's now fallen asleep in my lap!:rolleyes:

tally
27-02-2008, 18:59
Hi everyone, thought I'd pop in and say Hi.. :raspberry: I've been pretty flat out with work and life and Rylans not been an easy baby of late either, but sounds pretty normal from reading what you guys have all said, I could have wrote half your posts myself.. lol..

Rylan had a check up this morning and all its done is cause more worry... :(

His weight and height are great..

Weight 25%
Height 50%
but his head is only 3% :no:

so I think its off to the Neuro Paed for us!!!! we were told anything under 4% is a concern. Trying not to stress he seems to be reaching all his milestones ok and chatting away fine... so hopefully we'll get an answer.. one way or the other.

We're hoping hes just going to be tall and skinny and the small head is just part of it.

sorry to offload.. no one here to really talk to.. and no one who understands it.. :(

kaybee
27-02-2008, 19:14
Tally - good to hear from you!
Off-load away, that's what we're all here for! I've done my fair share in the last few days as we're having a few "issues" with Ava.

I'm sure little Rylan is going to be fine! Ava is tall & slim too by the looks of it. We haven't measured her head recently though. Was planning to visit ECH Nurse tomorrow after mother's group, so might measure everything.

Don't stress! :hugs: It's funny how you see other people's babies that are really big and chubby and it makes me worry too. Then I have to remember that those babies are actually in a way over sized and Ava is average. In those tables, you obviously have to have babies at all percentiles to make them.

Let us know when you go to see the Specialist.

Kizmet
27-02-2008, 19:19
tally :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

MrsScatterbrain
27-02-2008, 19:57
Hi everyone,

:hugs: kaybee - Hugs - sometimes I watch DH go off to work and feel like shouting 'don't go!'. ;) I hope things look up for you in the next few days. I always find a good walk in the sun helps.

:hugs: Tally - I hope you have some definitive answers soon to put your mind at rest. :fingerscrossed: It sounds like your little guy is travelling along really well.

We're part of the 45min catnapper club too! I feel a bit stressed about his catnapping, as we've done everything right this time, I'm not sure if there's anything else we can do to encourage him to resettle.

I saw my CHN on Monday, and she's sending around the mobile nurse to help me with settling Thomas - how good is that? I'm really hoping it helps. :fingerscrossed:

perrywinkle
27-02-2008, 21:16
Tally - best to check it out.

To be honest I didn't notice his head when we last saw each other (meaning it's not obvious to the naked eye well my eye anyway). But go and get it checked out for peace of mind.

Will call you sometime soon when I've organised myself to see how you are going.

XX

sandralee
27-02-2008, 21:34
Hi girls!
Sounds like a few of us have had unsettled babies lately, or babies who have changed their 'good' patterns on us! So a big round of hugs & kisses for us all! C'mon... group hug time!:hugs: Started Noah in the cot in his nursery yesterday for day sleeps, & have kept it up today - he hasn't had many big day sleeps of late, mostly catnaps between 30-60 mins (if I I'm lucky) .. once or twice I have been able to resettle for a while longer, & other times not, cos he has woken up to poo or something. One common factor with a majority of his sleeps is that he 'wakes up' looking tired & half asleep, & that it wasn't really his choice to wake up. He also has sudden screams that come out of nowhere. He has such a gorgeous personality & still manages to smile & play - but there has been something restless and unsetted about him since he was born. I'm SO looking forward to this lady coming on friday & really wish I had done it earlier. Was getting used to him sleeing for 8-9hrs after putting him to bed at 7pm, but that disppeared towards the end of last week. I stopped giving him rice cereal around the same time (ironically), as I just wanted to try the theory out about them sleeping longer. It was such a small ammount that I didn't think it would make a difference.. but hmmm. Just seems funny that he slept better for the week I gave it to him lol.
I have read bits & pieces of posts when I have had the chance today, but forget a lot of stuff. Thank you for all your well wishes too, it means a lot to me! I don't know about you guys, but I didn't think it would take me this long to get into a new groove - I really didn't anticipate that it would be this full-on. ALready, 3mths have passed, & I still don't have this little man 'cracked.' When I think I do, it quickly changes. We bought a new video camera beore he was born, & I really haven't taken much footage. Hope we sort things out soon so we can start enjoying each other a bit more - I feel so helpless sometimes, & would hate to think that all this time he has been in pain with refux. So hard to diagnose cos it just sounds like normal baby stuff.
Dad walked him around in the baby bjorn for a while today, I don't know which one of them enjoyed to more hehe. My father has been fixated on that thing since befor Noah was even born. Kinda funny.
Well life doesn't seem to be as relaxing as I thought it would be by now - guess it will be better when a certain child of mine goes back to having longer sleeps during the day. It's amazing how much you can accomplish when they do! Some of the slings you girls have sound fantastic. They look more snuggly than the baby bjorns, well to me anyway, there are positives for both.
Moops - I have been like that with Noah sleeping before LOL, and have listened so hard for any sign of breath.. & ended up trying to get him to move...& woke him in the process!
Tally - dpn't worrry about head size, most people with big heads only complain anyway.. & hats don't fit them..
RB - sounds like a lot of catnappers around lately so you aren't alone
Thought I would do a bit better than this with personals but have had too many interruptions while quickly scanning posts today - so memory is pretty poor ATM.
Sweet dreams sprinkled with rose petals! xx

sandralee
27-02-2008, 21:55
p.s. I think we should all have a meeting and cancel our babies memberships to the catnappers club!!!!! :D It should be banned & BANNED FOR GOOD! Cos I can only handle random days of interrupted sleep myself - & don't relax enough to catnap very often AT ALL cos I know I will pay for it later with all the stuff I missed, by having an even bigger workload/thinkload. xxxxxxxxxxxxx

westerner
27-02-2008, 22:25
Just poping in to say hi.. :wave:
Have read anything but cant manage to reply sorry.. :o
Im extremely :sleeping:

Poor Jacob woke early this morning and has been throwing up.. he is ok this arvo/tonight thank goodness.. Must have just been a gastro bug..

So i have been up since 3:30am and have done like 4 loads of washing as well as caring for my grumpy little guy in between feeding miss K and then cleaning up more vomit.. lol :laughing: What a glamorous job this is..

Off to bed for me.. :wave:

tally
27-02-2008, 23:23
me again cant sleep lol.. thanks for all the comments..

We went through all the kids bluebooks tonight with a fine tooth comb and we're pretty sure hes aok. My kids just have small heads. :yes: I wouldnt have even been worried about it if it wasnt for the scan they did at 36wks and the turmoil that went on after it..

I just need to stop worrying and move on lol...

One things for sure I wont be going back to where we went.. I dont need the stress.. this woman also told me that with my health problems I should have home help and have a pain management plan, which included strong pain relief.. :rolleyes: I should have guessed something was off when she said that to me. I know I have serious issues but I manage pretty well...

Goose I hope you get some sleep and theres no more throwing up in your house...

Night all..

xxx

AliyahBlake
28-02-2008, 06:25
Hi Tally - welcome back! :hugs: to you - if Rylan's otherwise doing ok he should be fine. I know it's hard to not worry though.
:hugs: to you too, Goose - I hope no one else in your house gets gastro too!

We had a bloody awful night here last night. Blake was awake every 3 hours on the dot - hungry! Maybe dropping a feed during the day didn't work as well as I thought it would! I guess he's a big boy and is only 3 1/2 months old so I was probably expecting a bit much. Aliyah also was awake with nightmares, so between both of them I think I managed about 4 hours sleep :sleeping:

I'm going to make a coffee and see if I can wake up a bit!

Rainbowbrite
28-02-2008, 06:53
RB that's exactly what I ended up doing. She went to sleep for 20 minutes in her cot after lunch and wouldn't settle. We lay down on our bed at 4.30. She grizzled for 20 minutes, then went to sleep, so we had around 20 minutes napping then she woke up hungry. After a feed she is still whinging, so she's squirming on my lap as I try and type. I wish I could see you guys tomorrow too! At least I have mother's group tomorrow so will get out of the house for a few hours.

I'm glad you got a bit of rest hun :hugs:


so I think its off to the Neuro Paed for us!!!! we were told anything under 4% is a concern. Trying not to stress he seems to be reaching all his milestones ok and chatting away fine... so hopefully we'll get an answer.. one way or the other.

Goodluck with it hun, hope its all ok :hugs:


We had a bloody awful night here last night. Blake was awake every 3 hours on the dot - hungry! Maybe dropping a feed during the day didn't work as well as I thought it would! I guess he's a big boy and is only 3 1/2 months old so I was probably expecting a bit much. Aliyah also was awake with nightmares, so between both of them I think I managed about 4 hours sleep

I'm going to make a coffee and see if I can wake up a bit!


Oh no!! Thats no good. We had every 3.5hrs here so I know the pain.

MrsScatterbrain
28-02-2008, 07:21
Hi girls!
Dad walked him around in the baby bjorn for a while today, I don't know which one of them enjoyed to more hehe. My father has been fixated on that thing since befor Noah was even born. Kinda funny.

Ditto! I think its a male thing! I have many photos of DH and my Dad carrying Ben in that thing! Funnily enough, I haven't put Thomas in it at all!


p.s. I think we should all have a meeting and cancel our babies memberships to the catnappers club!!!!! :D

Double Ditto! The government should ban the catnappers club altogether! Its un-Australian!!

:hugs: AB - Thomas has been hungry too - this time I've actually seen a grown spurt! My Dad was over from interstate yesterday and calling him 'bowling ball'!! :laughing: You don't know how good you've had it until they start waking again, don't you?!

With the exception of last night, I've been starting my day at 4.30am - Thomas wakes up for a feed, then Ben wakes up at 5.15am, and there goes my going back to bed time! :no: And its pitch black! Help me when daylight savings ends and its light again!

melbryan
28-02-2008, 07:30
We had a bloody awful night here last night. Blake was awake every 3 hours on the dot - hungry! Maybe dropping a feed during the day didn't work as well as I thought it would! I guess he's a big boy and is only 3 1/2 months old so I was probably expecting a bit much. Aliyah also was awake with nightmares, so between both of them I think I managed about 4 hours sleep :sleeping:

I'm going to make a coffee and see if I can wake up a bit!


Me too have been up all week with Ds2 just screaming so last night put a soft night light in his room those glow egg lights and he slept through.

But Ashton was awake all night from 2.47am , he probably wasn't tired as he slept 5 hrs since coming home from daycare yesterday.

Tally sounds like he's fine but check it out just in case. Mine are all the opposite huge heads and not as long. With my 3rd Ashie he is a littler baby than the other not as fat or big in general even though he was born at 9lbs. So I s'pose they're all different.

Kayne started Pre-school yesterday didn't care that we were there just ran off. The childcare worker commented you wouldn't think it was his 1st day. He is really friendly and outgoing ( opposite to me). I saw some 9 or 10 yr old girls being mean to him the other day in a playground and felt sad for him cause they wouldn't let him play with them. I was sitting there and listening and a little girl said 'do you want some chips' and he said 'yes' and then she said- 'go get your own' I thought you mean little B***** he was just trying to make friends with you. They were telling their little cousin about 3 to sa mean things to him. I just don't like that it's not cool but I don't like stepping in because one day he will have to stand up for himself, I just tell him we don't like being mean do we??

ANyway hope all your bubbas are doing well,
Mel x

Vespera
28-02-2008, 10:27
Hey girls

Well we have had a really crappy couple of days :gloomy: On Tuesday some family issues came to a head with the police being involved unfortunatley I married the only sane person in my DH's family.

So Tuesday was horrible anyway but everytime I fed Connor he would feed and then projectile vomit everywhere. Seems my hormones affected my milk and it was irritating his stomach.

Lucky I had some EBM in the freezer and I was able to just keep expressing til late yesterday afternoon when he drank and didnt spew!

But of course because I didnt express as often as I should, so I have a slight case of mastitus on my right side.

So its been a horrendous couple of days but the good news is my bub has been fantastic. A bit unsettled due to the tension in the house but really well behaved all up.

Hope everyone elses week has been much better!

Rianna
28-02-2008, 11:10
:hugs: Vespera, sounds like you're having a rough time of it. So sorry for you, family dramas are so distressing. At least it's your DH's family that's insane, for me it's my OWN family.

Melbryan, that story about Kayne in the playground made me sad. I really worry about when Luigi comes up against nasty kids. I know it's a long way off :laughing: but you just want to protect them don't you?

MrsScatterbrain, I totally agree that slings are a male thing, my DH loves it too. I'm not sure what it is, maybe the pram is too fiddly? Or maybe it's pregnancy envy! :laughing:

Sounds like we're all having a bit of a sh**ty week this week. Luigi just WILL NOT sleep at all at the moment and Mummy's eyes are hanging out of her head. I'll have to do something about it but I'm not sure what. I know controlled crying works but I just can't do it. I don't judge those who can so don't get me wrong but I'm just not tough enough!

Vespera
28-02-2008, 11:56
I know controlled crying works but I just can't do it. I don't judge those who can so don't get me wrong but I'm just not tough enough!

Its a personal choice for everyone - unfortunatley it doesnt work with Connor. He will cry until he makes himself sick and then keep crying. Poor little thing works himself up so much there is no way I can leave him to cry.

Will he sleep with you? Its not a long term solution but when I'm desperate if I lay down with Connor he sleeps in an instant and I can nap too.

AliyahBlake
28-02-2008, 12:19
We've just been taking it easy today - the kids have been pretty good seeing it's been raining most of the day and there's storms around. Blake's back to 3 hourly feeds as I don't think he was really ready to have them stretched out to 4 hours. He's been pretty tired today as he was awake half the night. I'm a little concerned as when I just changed his last poopy nappy, there were a couple of very tiny streaks of fresh blood there. I'm not sure what would cause it, as he otherwise seems ok, but if it continues or gets worse I'll be taking him to the GP very quickly! I know this can happen sometimes with kids and if it's a tiny amount it's usually nothing to worry about. I'm wondering if maybe he's had a slight tummy bug as he's had more explosive poos than usual the last couple of days, and it would explain why he's a bit fussy with his feeds. He's also been a bit more spewy yesterday and today. Hmmmmm - will keep an eye on him fairly closely I think.:detective:

Kittylou
28-02-2008, 12:47
Goodness, everyone seems to be having a really bad time at the moment. Huge :hugs: to all of you!!!!

I feel really bad saying that things are going well for us. I finally feel like I have Sophie totally figured out and this mother gig is getting easy again. I still struggle to get a meal on the table at night but somehow manage it (most nights anyway) but otherwise I guess I have it pretty easy.

Actually, my biggest complaint at the moment is that I'm bored!! I'm getting really sick of the sameness of my days now that Sophie is in a good routine. I'd love to be able to get out more but have nowhere to go and also feel bad about throwing out her routine just so that I can get out of the house. Dare I ask - is anyone else bored???

ETA: AB, Sophie had some streaks of blood in her poo when I first switched her over to formula. I totally freaked out and took her to the doctor who gave me a form to get it tested but it was only ever in the one nappy (which couldn't be tested as it had dried too much to get a sample :barf:) so I didn't worry too much.

sandralee
28-02-2008, 13:23
I feel really bad saying that things are going well for us. I finally feel like I have Sophie totally figured out and this mother gig is getting easy again. I

Dare I ask - is anyone else bored???


I go through phases when I think I have the mothering thing cracked... and have even strongly considered having another baby... THEN IT ALL CHANGES SO SWIFTLY!! THen it goes back to being smooth and calm.... So I have 2 words that sum it up for me - GROUNDHOG DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like I am in a rut of 'same sh***t, different day' most of the time.. and struggle to fit too many new things into my day. If Noah has reflux (which I findout tomorrow) I have to keep him upright - there is no way I can hold him all day LOL. Sending Steve out to buy that high chair this arvo, so that is one option, otherwise he has his bouncer. Swing is now out of bounds cos it squishes his tummy which makes reflux worse. (which explains why he cries when we first put him in there - I just thought he preferred to be held) Are there padded walkers/activity centres available that we can put our bubs in at this age? Before they can sit up? Noah has always had a strong neck & head control, but I don't know if it's too early yet for those things. Got my nails done this morning for the first time in a month - took my dad for back up; LOL. packed boiling water and cold water and bottles.... but forgot the formula powder!!!!! I'm an evil mummy - but he didn't whinge the whole time we were there/and half hour each way in the car.
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Vespera
28-02-2008, 14:37
Dare I ask - is anyone else bored???

Pick me! Connor is a really easy going bub to so being at home is really starting to get to me.
I rang the local volunteer organisation in town to see if I could volunteer somewhere that Connor is welcome a couple of times a week. They are getting back to me about maybe going into a nursing home to give the oldies a bit of company and they said they should be more than happy for me to bring hime along.

Otherwise we walk to the shops every day to get the mail - great for the weight but bad because I'm still only talking to myself and a bub who doesnt answer.

melbryan
28-02-2008, 14:44
I had two reflux bubs and I found the walker the best thing there is a one that doesn't move and if they can support their neck it would be fine, they just jump up and down. I would set up a tri pillow in the corner of the lounge and let him sit up like that or in the Bumbo seat too. I couldnt' hold bubs all the time either but the high schair with the reclining seat is great too I used to put towels around him so he couldnt' hurt himself.
All mine are asleep a bit of peace which is nice.
Made a shepherds pie for dinner and done some washing even though it is raining here.

sasa
28-02-2008, 15:49
Hey Everyone, just a quick post to send hugs to all of you having a rough day/days... Yep I have a reclining high chair and it is great, today I sat DD2 in it while i did some cooking and she loved watching us in the kitchen, DD1 used to love it too.
Melbryan I made a Shephards pie today too! But unfortunately not for us, (lucky we had it earlier in the week) I made it and some muffins for the family across the road that have had a bit of a rough time lately, and mum has been in hospital and very sore, they have two kids 2 and 4yrs old, I really feel for them.

Oh and MB kids can be cruel can't they, so hard to sit back and let them deal with it I bet. I am still at the stage of jumping in! When she is a bit older I will have to step back too but atm I am still very protective.

KittyLou we will have to organise another meet!
Vespera, Such a shame you coulnd't come along too...bit far to travel!

AB I hope its nothing or at the worst just a slight tummy bug.

Sands, Good on you for getting out and getting your nails done, must make you feel nice! Good luck tomorrow with the nurse, will be great for you both!

I know I have forgotten heaps I know but will be back later to top up lol

talk soon xx

sasa
28-02-2008, 15:53
Kaybee so sorry to read about your rough day the other day, I hope she has calmed a bit for you and your feeling like a bit of the pressure has been lifted.

Tally, sorry to read that you were a bit worried but by the sounds of your later post that has eased a bit. Easy to say I am sure everything will be fine but I am sure it will. Sounds like you have sussed out your other kids records and fouind some sort of pattern so that must be a releif.

perrywinkle
28-02-2008, 16:18
We had a bloody awful night here last night. Blake was awake every 3 hours on the dot - hungry! Maybe dropping a feed during the day didn't work as well as I thought it would! I guess he's a big boy and is only 3 1/2 months old so I was probably expecting a bit much. Aliyah also was awake with nightmares, so between both of them I think I managed about 4 hours sleep :sleeping:

Isn't it funny how they wake up on the dot every so many hours.

We are actually pretty good here. She'll wake once in the night for a feed so I'm wrapped with that and she's been going down really easy too.

I have just been printing all of my notes, work sheets etc.. for Uni and no joke I have printed a whole lever arch file full. And that's just for one unit and I still have 3 more to go. Eek!! Big bill in the ink and paper department I think!

:hugs::hugs: to everyone who has had unsettling nights/days. It can be a pretty rough time especially when they were perfect little angels previously.

Anyway better get dinner on the go having Spag bog for tea. Nice and easy!!

Moops
28-02-2008, 17:44
I'm feeling a bit down today. :gloomy: This morning I was holding her while DH was getting ready for work, and I thought: "I just don't want to do this today, I've had enough.":no:

Yep I used to feel like this, especially if we had a bad night. I used to honestly wonder how I was going to cope all day alone and would count the hours till DH got home. I feel alot better now and more confident with DS, it will get better hun!



Rylan had a check up this morning and all its done is cause more worry... :(

His weight and height are great..

Weight 25%
Height 50%
but his head is only 3% :no:

I found this on the net...

First, with growth parameters in babies, the trend is as important as the number. Are the measurements increasing along a particular growth curve consistently or have the measurements jumped up to a higher percentile curve or dropped to a lower one?

Second, there is huge room for error in infant measurements particularly with head circumference. To be accurate, the tape measure has to be at the widest parts of the head front and back. The widest part in the front is the forehead and the back just above the neck. If the tape measure is off just a touch, the measurement can be horribly inaccurate.

I'm sure he is fine hun :hugs:


Dad walked him around in the baby bjorn for a while today, I don't know which one of them enjoyed to more hehe. My father has been fixated on that thing since befor Noah was even born. Kinda funny.

Lol DH won't go near it, I think he thinks it's too girly! Good to have u back Sands! Sounds like you're taking things into your own hands to sort out your probs with Noah, you sound so confident and positive!


Kayne started Pre-school yesterday didn't care that we were there just ran off. The childcare worker commented you wouldn't think it was his 1st day. He is really friendly and outgoing ( opposite to me). I saw some 9 or 10 yr old girls being mean to him the other day in a playground and felt sad for him cause they wouldn't let him play with them. I was sitting there and listening and a little girl said 'do you want some chips' and he said 'yes' and then she said- 'go get your own' I thought you mean little B***** he was just trying to make friends with you. They were telling their little cousin about 3 to sa mean things to him. I just don't like that it's not cool but I don't like stepping in because one day he will have to stand up for himself, I just tell him we don't like being mean do well?

OMG this made me so sad as well! I think I have to be careful not to mother Luca too much, I would probably give that girl what for! I remember when I was 5 this girl a couple of grades up used to steal my lunch (I was very small for my age as well) so my Mum told her in a round about way to leave me alone or else!


Actually, my biggest complaint at the moment is that I'm bored!! I'm getting really sick of the sameness of my days now that Sophie is in a good routine. I'd love to be able to get out more but have nowhere to go and also feel bad about throwing out her routine just so that I can get out of the house. Dare I ask - is anyone else bored???

Yep! I had been feeling like this for a while now so I just looked for things to do with bubs, like mother and baby groups or exercise classes with babies etc. I feel alot better now, actually yesterday morning we went to baby rhymetime then I met my antenatal class for coffee, I was hardly home! I have also made friends with a girl down the road whose baby was born on the same day as Luca, we just hang out at home at watch E together lol, at least you're not on your own!

Vespera - I think it was you that said you were looking at volunteering at a nursing home? Yesterday when I had coffee with my antenatal class a little old lady was wheeled over by her carer because she wanted to look at all the babies, I think that is a great idea!

Well Luca is doing a bit better, sleeping a bit lonnger. He has his 3 month injections today, I hate taking him and putting him through that but what do u do. It is Mothers Day in the UK on Sunday so I am expecting to be thoroughly spoilt!!

Breaking news! I think my multi quote button is broken! Everytime I press it it takes me to the reply page so I have to go back and press the next one etc etc. Anyone else having a prob??

shymmer
28-02-2008, 17:57
Hello everyone,

Sounds like we are all having similar issues.

I thought Xav was having a growth spurt as she was very sleepy and hungry all the time, but it's well and truly over if she was - She isn't drinking much and hasn't gone to bed until midnight last two nights!
And unfortunately we are members of the 1/2hr catnap club. Who is signing our kids up to these clubs??

Xavia is having a big week developmentally though. She's discovered her fingers, reaches for toys now and touches them with both hands and is smiling more at things/people. Also bringing her legs up, so it wont' be too long before she finds her toes I think.
She is getting frustrated reclining on the play mat now too - wants to sit up but can't without support of course. So is a bit antsy on there now. She doesn't quite have the back/neck strength to be in a high chair or walker yet. Nearly, but even padded up with nappies she isn't very comfortable.
I'm trying to think of new things I can do with her. I read to her, play, give nappy free time, go to shops. Can't really go walking, if it isn't super hot outside it's raining!
I would like to put her in swimming lessons but can't guarentee she'll be awake for the lesson each week . . what if she is too tired/due for a feed during the lesson?

I guess her little mind is ticking over lickety split with so many new things just now and I want to keep things interesting for her. . . but my mind is the opposite - it just want's sleep and is having a hard time ticking over at all!!

Here's wishing us all a good night's sleep tonight :babydust2::wizard:.

MrsScatterbrain
28-02-2008, 19:16
I was sitting there and listening and a little girl said 'do you want some chips' and he said 'yes' and then she said- 'go get your own' I thought you mean little B***** he was just trying to make friends with you.

Ooooh, I can so relate! A little kid at a park recently kept asking me to remove my son from where he was playing because he was not welcome! :no: I very diplomatically told him that was not going to happen! :p (I later saw him fall over and graze his knee - karma!)



Actually, my biggest complaint at the moment is that I'm bored!!

Same here! I get out quite a bit, but fit in with Thomas' routine, so I don't need to stress too much about it. It helps if I'm somewhere I can breastfeed, as I can be more leisurely, but if I'm outside at a park, etc, I have to be back within the 3 hour gap! Otherwise I don't worry about routine, one day here or there won't matter! ;)



Otherwise we walk to the shops every day to get the mail - great for the weight but bad because I'm still only talking to myself and a bub who doesnt answer.

:laughing: I have a picture of you walking along chatting away to yourself! I used to walk to the shops with DS1 everyday, but often bought a Milky Bar and ended up putting on weight!!

Shana, congrats on Xav's development! :thumbsup:

MrsScatterbrain
28-02-2008, 19:23
Ooh, I forgot to mention my dilema!

Our amazing council has organized a nurse to come by on Monday to help me resettle Thomas. Its free of charge, she's going to come into my own home to help, and I don't need to wait months and months! :thumbsup:

However ... I found out her name yesterday, and we have a chequered past! :o She was on staff when I was at the Mother Baby Unit with my first son with sleep problems, and she made my blood boil! She was contradicting everything I'd been taught there, and actually yelled at me once! (As you can imagine, you're a bit fragile if you're in a Mother and Baby unit, and I didn't take it very well!)

I almost said 'don't worry' when I found out who she was, but thought better of it. What to do? I think I'll continue with it, and just hope we don't come to blows!! :fingerscrossed: (I'm pretty laid back, so someone has to be bad to annoy me!!)

Nan
28-02-2008, 20:50
Hi girls.
Haven't been around for a couple of days. Been busy socializing!!! Nah....a friend and I started a playgroup this year and its keeping me busy on Wednesdays. All going well with it so far. Must say I'm not really one in the bored club.....not now anyway. When I first had Eden I was SOOOOOO bored. Now I have mum's groups, kindergym, playgroup, scrapbooking group etc etc so I'm fine. It DOES get easier guys.....:hugs:

Should of seen the look on DP face last night when he got home gave me a kiss and saw cabbage sticking out from my bra..
He looked at it and just said, 'i dont even wanna know'.. lol

But i did stick in in my top and then tried to figure out what stunk.. Checked both kids nappys then sat down for a few mins with a puzzled look on my face till i figured it out... doh
Hahaha! Delightful isn't it? Hope you're feeling better now.

Nan good luck with dinner tonight! I am sure you’ll make something yummo!
Thanks!! I ended up doing a Thai Pumpkin Soup, Spinach, Cheese & Bacon Canneloni & good old Chocolate Pudding for dessert! I think I did ok. Thank God the kids were in good moods!

I think it is success.
Sounds good! Well done Robbie!!

She's only slept for 40 minutes since and is now grizzling in her bouncer, I just really wish she would shut up! I can't seem to settle her at all and all I want to do is go to bed and cry but I can't.
These days are awful aren't they. :hugs: Good on you for venting. Its healthy. Hope today was much better.

sorry to offload.. no one here to really talk to.. and no one who understands it..
:hugs: As you later said......I'm sure he will be fine.

With the exception of last night, I've been starting my day at 4.30am - Thomas wakes up for a feed, then Ben wakes up at 5.15am, and there goes my going back to bed tim And its pitch black! Help me when daylight savings ends and its light again!
Oh yucky! At least Eden doesn't get up until 7am, so if Caleb wakes early, I can go back for more sleep.

I just don't like that it's not cool but I don't like stepping in because one day he will have to stand up for himself, I just tell him we don't like being mean do we??
You're very restrained, mel. I'd have told that kid in no uncertain terms how badly she was behaving!

So its been a horrendous couple of days but the good news is my bub has been fantastic. A bit unsettled due to the tension in the house but really well behaved all up.
They pick up on everything don't they? Scarey how perceptive they are!

I know controlled crying works but I just can't do it. I don't judge those who can so don't get me wrong but I'm just not tough enough!
Its not for everyone. You have to do what works for bubs AND you. I'm ok with listening to a bit of crying.

Its a personal choice for everyone - unfortunatley it doesnt work with Connor. He will cry until he makes himself sick and then keep crying. Poor little thing works himself up so much there is no way I can leave him to cry.
Don't take this the wrong way Vespera, but CC isn't supposed to make them sick. You shouldn't wait until they work themselves up, because as you say.....it doesn't work then! I have always gone in to resettle my babies before they get to that state, as if I let them get that far then it was 'all over red rover'!!! CC isn't just letting them cry themselves to sleep. I won't :ecomcity: anymore, but just wanted to clear that up.
Anyway, I'm off to get a hot chocolate and some rocky road!! Woohoo! Nighty, night girls. Sorry if this is so disjointed......my head is a bit mushy......bad headache.

Lozie
29-02-2008, 07:03
Morning all
Still Very hectic around here i have been getting up at 4am to drive my dad to work cause i have his car mine is still in the shop after almost 2 week:mad: and now Dh has been laid off the place he was working for was repo'ed by creditors so fun... so now we are just down to my FTB for a week or so until he finds a new job so frustrating! He hadnt had a full weeks work since before Christmas, things are very tight atm, and i still have to pay for my car which i'm sure will be over a grand seen as they have had it for so long:( i really hate money right now!

The boys are tearing each other apart all the time driving me INSANE and i still have to find time to go to the gym and money to try and eat more healthy food:rolleyes: not really working a the moment.
Then Dh has this thing in his head that we should TTC in a year or so :confused: does he not see how hard this is for me now:hissy:

Balin is great tho except for when he gets really unsettled and i end up having to hold him for hours so now i feel like I'm about a week behind in house work, the washing is pilling up cause it hardly stops raining, I need a holiday:dizzy:pphhewww
Sorry for venting but have been holding that in for ages.
Hope everyone else is well i would write more but Jacy and Caleb are trying to kill each other again and now Balin is screaming for a feed..
Take care!

melbryan
29-02-2008, 07:20
Oh Loz it doesn't rain it pours doesn't it.!!!! Good luck with coming good at the end. No TTC here DH has said no but I am not on anything so it's play by ear for a while. I am using my maybe baby to pinpoint ovulationo and not doing it then.

Seems like you've all been cooking up a storm.

Sasa That's so nice to make meals for your neighboiur they must love you.

Ash wasn't too bad last night we are off to meet some fellow bubhubbers today as the weather is fine.

AB- sorry I couldn't make it the weather was not good. Yes we are moving to Baulkham, Hills just waiting for the coucil to approve some things and then we have the go ahead to put the house on the Market.

This is my 2000th post well I must be on here alot.

Mrs S- she sounds like a right cow but maybe she has changed her tune this time round knowing it's you.

Well better get into gear see you all,
Mel x

AliyahBlake
29-02-2008, 08:21
Its not for everyone. You have to do what works for bubs AND you. I'm ok with listening to a bit of crying.

Don't take this the wrong way Vespera, but CC isn't supposed to make them sick. You shouldn't wait until they work themselves up, because as you say.....it doesn't work then! I have always gone in to resettle my babies before they get to that state, as if I let them get that far then it was 'all over red rover'!!! CC isn't just letting them cry themselves to sleep.

:iagree: Controlled crying, if done correctly, is very effective. I read up on it alot before Aliyah was born and it worked very well when she was a bub. Similarly I've used it with Blake (but only after he was about 6 weeks) and it's working a treat. You definitely go to them before they get to that worked up stage! I find if he's crying when I put him down to sleep, I listen to his cries and I go in to him after about 5 mins if he hasn't settled (or before if he's working up) and just pick him up or pat him while he's still in the cot. Most of the time now he settles himself, but every now and then I have to go into him to settle him down, but it's usually only once or twice. I do the same thing to resettle him if he wakes after 45 mins. You're right though, Nan, it's not for everyone as some mums just don't like hearing their bubs cry (I can understand that!) Also I think you have to adapt it to the baby itself as, of course, all bubs are different. If Blake is happy after a 45 min sleep, I usually just get him up anyway. I think, too, it's all about learning to interpret your bub's cries, which can be difficult.




Balin is great tho except for when he gets really unsettled and i end up having to hold him for hours so now i feel like I'm about a week behind in house work, the washing is pilling up cause it hardly stops raining, I need a holiday:dizzy:pphhewww
:hugs: Lozie, I know that feeling!



AB- sorry I couldn't make it the weather was not good. Yes we are moving to Baulkham, Hills just waiting for the coucil to approve some things and then we have the go ahead to put the house on the Market.

This is my 2000th post well I must be on here alot.

No worries, Mel, I didn't go either because of the rain and we all had a bad night so were pretty tired. Congrats on 2000 posts, too!:yelclap:

There's been no further episodes of blood streaks in Blake's poo, so I think and hope it was just one of those things and it won't happen again. He was much more settled last night, so we all had a better sleep.

I'll be taking Aliyah to the doc today - she's just gotten over a mild cold (and had the ear infection last week), but has been complaining for about a week that she's really tired. She has even been falling asleep in the lounge room at times which are unusual for her, such as 11am or 5pm (she stopped having her afternoon sleeps about 2 months ago and has been fine without them up til the last couple of weeks). I've noticed her energy levels have dropped and she has been a little pale, but I thought she's probably taking a little while to get over her recent illness. For the last 2 days she's complained that her left shoulder and neck are sore and her ear as well (the same one she had the infection in). Craig and I have thought maybe she's been sleeping on that side funny or something, but last night I noticed a strange rash on the very same shoulder. It's not anything like meningococcal or from the antibiotics as they're finished, but it looks kind of raised and rough, and this morning has spread a bit. She says it's not itchy. It looks almost like ringworm but the other symptoms don't fit. It could be school sores, as there was a case at her preschool a few weeks ago. She hasn't had a temp so I'm not sure what it could be......very weird!! Hopefully the GP can shed some light on it and hopefully, whatever it is, it's not contagious!

Kizmet
29-02-2008, 08:41
hey ladies just a quick one with some pics of my little Robbie and RB's little Anakin from yesterday when we met up! They were so cute together, smiling, laughing and chatting to each other! So cute!

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they were so gorgeous! thanks for a great day RB! Anakin is such a cuddler! so cute!

perrywinkle
29-02-2008, 08:56
They are so cute!! Thanks for sharing.

Rianna
29-02-2008, 10:38
Oh my god, they are so beautiful!! :yelclap: Yay for the gorgeous bubs of the November mummies.

Nan
29-02-2008, 10:41
Great pics! They look like they could be related!! Definitely 2 cute boys there! *nods*

Lots of :hugs: for you Lozie. Sounds like you're in a hard place right now. I hope your DH finds a good job soon. :fingerscrossed:

I think, too, it's all about learning to interpret your bub's cries, which can be difficult.
It is isn't it? I used to get like this :confused: with Eden for ages!!! I'm still trying to figure out some of Caleb's cues. Good luck at the doctors. I hope he/she can figure out what is going on. Those symptoms sound bizarre!

Congrats on 2000 posts, mel!

Mrs S - Forgot to say, I hope that lady has changed her tune and turns out to be nice and kind for you.

Sandra - Let us know how the consultancy thing goes/went today. Hope you get some good info......you'd want to for that kind of money, hey? :rolleyes: :D

RB - Re settling Ani I'm sorry I don't have any advice. When Caleb was doing that I'd just go in there pick him up for a cuddle, rewrap him, pat on the back, soft words etc, put him back and leave. 9 times out of 10 he'd go back to sleep with around 5 mins of crying. Sorry I can't help you.

Quiet day here.......HEAPS of housework and picking up after the kids to be done. Shane is not well so is coming home from work at lunch time........then I'll have THREE kids to look after!! :laughing:

MrsScatterbrain
29-02-2008, 12:38
Ooooh, my cousin just gave birth to a 2.6kg little boy! Have photos already! And my other cousin just found out she's having a little girl in July! :yelclap:

Soooooo clucky! ... But not clucky enough! ;) (I've been clucky since Primary School, had I given into my cluckyness from the start, I'd have 10 kids!)

Lol Nan! I know the feeling of having three kids at home! :laughing:

RB and Kizmet - two gorgeous little bubs there! How lucky you are being able to meet in the flesh! :thumbsup:

AliyahBlake
29-02-2008, 13:09
Well, the suspicious rash on Aliyah's shoulder has a name......SHINGLES!!!!!:eek: I didn't think kids could get it, but she has it! The doc said it's more common in adults but kids can get it. It explains all the recent symptoms she's had. The only treatment is rest and panadol (adults can be treated with acyclovir, but kids can't) and it should clear up in 2 - 3 weeks. He said it's only contagious if another person comes into contact with fluid from the blisters (and only if that person has never had chickenpox), but if she keeps the rash covered with clothing it should be fine. He doesn't think Blake's too much at risk, but advised me to stop Aliyah from close contact like kissing and sharing a bath until the rash goes. She's supposed to go to 2 birthday parties on the weekend, but I'm pulling the pin on that as one of the mums is pregnant, and I don't want to risk Aliyah passing anything on to her or any kids who might not have already had chickenpox. She's pretty upset about that understandably :(

RB & Kiz - such cute pics! It's a shame we didn't end up coming to meet with you all, but under the circumstances now, it's probably lucky we didn't!

sandralee
29-02-2008, 13:28
Hi everyone!
Won't have time to read posts until later today/tonight, but headlines are THAT LADY WAS AWESOME!!! She covered absolutely everything with me, observed Noah, & made me feel so normal! He is definitely a reflux baby & she suggested Losec asap rather than zantac - so I hve booked him into GP at 2.15pm. Gave me so much info & even checked his poo to see what is was like and if it was normal. She said that relux babies tend to have smaller/more frequent feeds until they are treated because it's too painful for them otherwise. Also that they are high maintenance babies & that mothers tend to feel like they have A.D.D cos their bubs are so much work LOL! That should get better after a week on losec, and the karicare formula for reflux babies (a thickened formula - or you can buy a karicare 'thickener' for whatever formula you are using + the bigger hole teats to let it pass through) Said to roll a towel to put under his mat for tummy time (under his arms area) so that he is elevated and not flat. I also need to elevate his cot more with a brick on top of the phone books I already have in there. She taught me ways of weaning him from his snugglebed & the value of a 'snuggly' for a sleep cue that I can use anywhere. (capsule/pram/cot/different environments for sleep) Going to wean him from using dummies - starting by only offering if he is unsettled & take it away when he calms down. We went through resettling after the 45min catnap, which went well. She wrote me a plan, gave me handouts to read, & also did full health check with height weight etc. BIg post I know, but if I can help someone else who is going through the same thing, it is worth it. THere is so much more to write, but just wanted to say how much this lady knows her stuff, is gentle, caring, supportive, helpful..... She was well worth the $250 & I will do it again in a heartbeat if I feel the need. Can claim on MBF too. She handles all aspects of parenting from feeding/fussy babies/setlting/.. the works LOL! PM me if anyone would ever like her number - she is based at the John Fynn Hospital, & the price I mentioned included travel out to where I live. Back later to see what is happening with everyone........there is light at the end of the tunnel YAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xxxxxxx

perrywinkle
29-02-2008, 13:59
SHINGLES WOW I thought adults can only get that but I've learnt something today. At least you have a name for it now.

Sands - glad everything went well with the lady. We were prescibed Losec as well but have only used it 4 times so I have a full box in pantry. It's expensive to buy like $35 a box but well worth it for bubs sake. Hopefully it will help him and you!!

Quite day here too. DS has a bit of a cold so we've been house bound and made him rest all day. Need to get lots of house work done and we've had to turn off the mains (water) because we have a dripping tap that's really bad since last night so waiting for DH to get home to fix it then I can have a shower LOL!! I went to turn the hot water tap on last night to soak some clothes and I couldn't even turn the tap off and it was making such a loud noise through out the house I thought our hot watwer system had blown up but hopefully it's only the washers that need replacing!

Nan
29-02-2008, 15:52
AB - Sorry to here it is shingles. Poor Aliyah.....its hard when they don't get why they can't go to parties and things.

Sandra - So glad you got some valuable information and help. :yes: :thumbsup: That lady sounds like she knows her stuff.

Mrs S - Aaawwwww. That is a small little bubba. How cute. Congrats to your cousin.

Vespera
29-02-2008, 16:13
Sorry girls my only experience with CC was a 'friend' at my house who kept telling me to leave him and yes he just got more and more worked up and she kept saying not to pick him up. Obviously she doesnt know what she was talking about and when I did pick him up I felt really bad so havent done anyhting similar again.

Kittylou
29-02-2008, 16:38
So glad to hear I'm not the only one that's getting bored!!



Yep! I had been feeling like this for a while now so I just looked for things to do with bubs, like mother and baby groups or exercise classes with babies etc.

Moops, I actually started having a look at these sorts of things yesterday too but I couldn't find anything that was scheduled at a time that suits us. In fact, pretty much everything was in the middle of the day, smack bang in the middle of Sophie's long sleep. I don't mind her missing it every now and then when I have something on but I wouldn't want to schedule something every week and have her miss it regularly as she doesn't sleep any longer in the afternoon if she misses her middle of the day sleep.

Mrs S - I don't know what I'd do about your dilemma. I probably wouldn't go ahead with it but I'm not terribly easygoing so would be just waiting for her to say or do something to fire me up.

Lozie, just lots of :hugs: for you. I really hope things get better for you soon.

AB, poor Aliyah!!! Hope she's feeling better soon.

Sandra, so pleased you got some good advice and you are feeling positive about it all. I'm sure you've gone into detail before (probably in the many pages of posts that I never read because it was just to hard to catch up) but do you mind telling me a bit more about Noah's symptoms that led to the reflux diagnosis? I've had two CHN's tell me that it sounds like Sophie has silent reflux but there has been no consistency with her symptoms so I have been hesitant to agree with them.

RB & Kizmet, what gorgeous boys!! Sasa, you'll have to post the photos of the beautiful November girls from last week (and I'm referring to the small ones not us bigger girls ;)). And yes, we'll have to meet up again soon.

MrsScatterbrain
29-02-2008, 17:11
Well, the suspicious rash on Aliyah's shoulder has a name......SHINGLES!!!!!:

Oh gosh :hugs: poor little mite! I thought only kids could catch it too! Poor things being quarantined! :no:


........there is light at the end of the tunnel YAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xxxxxxx

So glad to hear you've had some great help! What sort of professional is she? A mothercraft nurse?



Mrs S - I don't know what I'd do about your dilemma. I probably wouldn't go ahead with it but I'm not terribly easygoing so would be just waiting for her to say or do something to fire me up.


I'm still going over and over it in my mind! :o I can't bear the thought of her being in my home, but it will be worth it if it helps ... oh what to do ...?

tally
29-02-2008, 17:13
Golly you lot can talk.

I suppose I should explain a bit about my freak out..

I'm not sure if everyone remembers when I was 36wks they did a scan (I think thats about all I shared at the time) and Rylan was diagnosed inutero with possible Microcephaly, we were told there might be a chance that he would not survive delivery or he could have some pretty severe problems if he did. When he was born they basically gave us the all clear, but its still a day to day thing where the condition could rear its ugly head.. We have been given no guarantees...

So.. even though we're pretty sure hes fine its not an easy thing to get over, especially when you're looking over your shoulder all the time.

I know he'll be fine.... I just have my moments.

Thank you everyone for your support..

RB & Kiz, the boys look adorable...

AliyahBlake
29-02-2008, 17:24
Aliyah has settled down now after being pretty cranky that she couldn't go to the parties on the weekend. Craig brought home 2 little baby turtles for her to have as pets. They are soooo cute! They've only just hatched about 2 days ago (he got them off a mate who has a reptile licence). One is the size of a 5 cent piece and the other is the size of a 10 cent piece :goodvibes:. Aliyah named the little one Charli (after her fave Hi 5 girl) and the other one is Steamy (that's what she thought the new Hi 5 guy's name was!! I told her his name's Stevie, but the name Steamy has stuck!!) I hope they'll survive as I have no idea how to look after them :fingerscrossed::laughing:

kaybee
29-02-2008, 19:29
Well, the suspicious rash on Aliyah's shoulder has a name......SHINGLES!!!!!:eek: RB & Kiz - such cute pics! It's a shame we didn't end up coming to meet with you all, but under the circumstances now, it's probably lucky we didn't!

OH no, the poor thing.
The boys look so cute.


but headlines are THAT LADY WAS AWESOME!!! ......there is light at the end of the tunnel YAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xxxxxxx

Sandra I'm so happy for you!


. Craig brought home 2 little baby turtles for her to have as pets. They are soooo cute!

AB - I hope you watched Better Homes & Gardens tonight, they've just had a segment on having turtles as pets!

Well we had a shocker last night and today, I've spent a lot of today crying and complaining to my mum on the phone! I am too tired to go into it now ( only around 2 hours sleep last night :sleeping:) will talk tomorrow. We are wondering if maybe she is teething??
Sands would be interested to know about the reflux symptoms too.

night night

Vespera
29-02-2008, 19:45
Connor rolled over :smiliedance:

And banged his head on the floor :(

But he did it three times in a row tummy to back. Guess I am going to have to put the padded rug down now.

So proud of my boy.

shymmer
29-02-2008, 20:19
Evening,

Geez, I have a hard time getting on here atm. Xav is going to 'bed' at midnight now . . . have I said this already?? and sleeps until 11am. So I am staying in bed too. Hopefully she'll be up all day tomorrow while dh is home and get back to a 7.30/8pm bedtime.

Wow . . . lots happening with you girls.

Ves - yay for Connor!

Kittylou - I was going to say Xavia is almost 6.5kg too. What nice healthy bubba's we have!

Today, Xav brought her blanket to her mouth and began chewing on it!! So I gave her a toy and she did the same thing! My clever girl!!!

MrsScatterbrain
29-02-2008, 20:22
Tally - oh gosh, you poor thing. I couldn't imagine what it would be like to have gone through that. :hugs: Will you get in to see a specialist soon?

MrsScatterbrain
29-02-2008, 20:27
Oooh, oooh, ooh! I forgot to ask! Are any of you cloth addicts going to do the GDUNH? :D I've registered, but don't want to spend any money (willpower 0% at the moment!), so I'm still undecided!! :laughing:

Nan
29-02-2008, 20:29
Craig brought home 2 little baby turtles for her to have as pets.........I hope they'll survive as I have no idea how to look after them
If all else fails - Google it!! :laughing:

tally - I agree that it would be hard to stomach that information. Here's hoping that it never happens. :fingerscrossed:

Vespera - I'm sure your friend meant well. Some people put their babies down to sleep and just leave them to cry it out for ages, but this is counterproductive as it just stresses them out and truth be told, I think its a bit cruel. If you look on the CC section on here there's a really good thread that outlines a modified version of it step by step. Its really helpful. YAY for Connor rolling over! :smiliedance:

Shana - So cute when they start to hold things isn't it? YAY for Xavia!!

kaybee - I hope you're doing ok and that you get a decent sleep tonight. :wizard:

kittylou - I must confess to sometimes messing with Eden's sleeps so I can get out and do things. I'm lucky though, coz if she doesn't sleep midday, she always sleeps in the afternoon & she doesn't get too feral when she's tired....she goes quiet and a bit whingey.

Sands - How good that you can claim that ladies services on your benefits?!! That's great. :thumbsup:

Well, I'm off to check on my next ebay purchase. :fingerscrossed: for me. I'm bidding on a Maxi Rider car seat for Eden. Hope I get it.

sandralee
29-02-2008, 21:41
but do you mind telling me a bit more about Noah's symptoms that led to the reflux diagnosis? I've had two CHN's tell me that it sounds like Sophie has silent reflux but there has been no consistency with her symptoms so I have been hesitant to agree with them.
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He has had no consistency either which is another reason why I doubted the inital diagnosis. I suppose I could identify with that really, as I had it when I was pregnant with him - but didn't necessarily feel the symptoms every time I laid down etc.
I ended up calling this lady to sort out his feedig more than anything & that's how it started. Told her he seemed 'unsettled' since birth, yet had a lot of happy moments as well. Hell he even slept 8-9hrs for a while there! Now we are back to 2 wake ups through the night. He has spluttered/choked during feeds a majority of the time (even BF); cries when put flat on his back a lot; lots of swallowing or gulping after feeds; only taking in small ammounts with feeds and regularly; lots of catnaps; 'wet' burps; discomfort with any pressure on his tummy; frequent hiccups since birth; feeding difficulties (seeking lots of comfort feeds - cos they are in pain & can only handle short frequent feeds without medication); irritabilty & whingey; likes to be held a lot.. cos it's an upright position; lots of coughing; periods of no breathing, then taking in a sudden breath <yada yada>
THis lady is a midwife & lactation consultant, and has also done other stuff. So she is kind of an all-rounder all-aspects-of-parenting consultant.
I really wanted somebody who could come out to our home and observe Noah for longer than a quick GP/Paed/CHN appt cos I didn't want to give him medication on a whim. A lot of reflux symptoms can be easily confused with regular baby behaviour - but I think it comes down to a mother's feeling of something not being right. I have tried so many things over the past 3 1/2 months to help Noah feel more settled, and got to a point of knowing that something didn't quite add up. Gave FF a shot for a month, but stll erratic feeding, even after altering teat flows etc. Kept thinking he would get used to it all & not struggle with feeds so much. So, another day of busy stuff for me and no time to post or read! Noice! :eek:



So glad to hear you've had some great help! What sort of professional is she? A mothercraft nurse?
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See above babble LOL! :D

[quote=kaybee;2414886]Sands would be interested to know about the reflux symptoms too.

night night

Will probably hear my little man stirring soon - he has only had a few hundred ml's to drink all day! Got down his 1st dose of Losec & will hopefully notice an improvement between a few days, to a week. My dad is still here & my sister has also stayed the last couple of nights - she made the yummiest mango dacquiris & cooked dinner.. has been so nice to have her here! Plus she is so good with Noah!
Lots of big hugs to all of you! I am in serious need of some downtime - preferably on bubhub with a nice glass of wine in my hand.
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4tiggers
01-03-2008, 20:29
Tally, what a shame they cant do a definate test for Rylan that will let you know one way or the other. How horrible to think it could happen at any time.

Well had my babys 4 month check

Head is 42.3cm
length is 65.4 cm and
weight is 7.120 kg. He is huge and is now rolling. I am already putting him in size 0 clothes.

AliyahBlake
02-03-2008, 11:25
Hi all - we're having quite a busy weekend with these turtles! We now have a nice big tank for them and have been spending a lot of time setting it all up for them. It's good as it's kept Aliyah's mind off her painful shingles. Her rash has spread and is very blistery, poor little thing.

Blake has been good - slept 12 hours on Friday night and woke up at 6:30 yesterday morning:yelclap: He's been desperately trying to roll over from his back to tummy, and is so close. It's funny to watch as he gets a bit stroppy that he can't get over!

I've now got my new breast pump - it's great and hopefully I can give Blake a bottle again this afternoon.

Hope you're all having a good weekend. Talk to you later!

perrywinkle
03-03-2008, 07:02
Well not much has been happening here over the weekend. We have had a rough time at the moment. not sleeping well at night at all. Friday night we were up 5 times, Saturday night was 3 times and last night was the same. I'm not really sure what's up with her maybe a growth spurt but it's making me so exhausted. And we had vistiors here yesterday all day and all I wanted to do is stay in my PJ's and do some study but got nothing done Grrr!!!

Well I offically start Uni today :yelclap:. I've got 3 assigment due in 3 weeks so I'll be busy busy busy!!!

Hope all is well with everyone and I'll be back on later when I have a break!

Rainbowbrite
03-03-2008, 08:39
Hi ladies, we're another lot having bad nights.....blaming a growth spurt :p

Last night Ani was awake & desperate for a drink at 10pm 2, 4 & 6am :sleepy: Not having a good time of a day either, thinking I might have to take him to a sleep place to learn his tired signs & learn how to settle him. Nothing is working :(

Other than that we're all ok. Hope you all are too :hugs:

Kittylou
03-03-2008, 08:47
Sandra, thanks for that info. I can relate to the unsettled since birth thing (but she's been much better lately) but my instinct tells me that Sophie doesn't have reflux although from your list of symptoms I can understand why the CHNs might think so.

4tiggers, what a nice big man you have!!!

AB, thinking of you and Aliyah - so horrible to see little ones suffering like that. Sophie is also trying desperately to roll from back to tummy (not sure she'll like it once she works it out though as she absolutely hates tummy time!!) - on Saturday she actually managed to get her lower half all the way over but couldn't get her arm out from underneath. Looked a little freaky - I'll see if I can find the picture to post.

Perrywinkle, :hugs: hope you get a bit more sleep soon. I'm very impressed that you're studying so soon - I deferred uni for another semester as I just didn't think I was ready to cope with a baby and study just yet.

Well, we had a bit of a yucky weekend sleepwise - Sophie needed to be resettled for all of her daytime sleeps and was really difficult to get to sleep at night. It was nothing compared to what some of you have been going through but very out of character for her. It kind of threw me a bit and made me worry that I am in for a tough week but hopefully being back our weekday routine will help.

Hope you all had a lovely weekend.

ETA: RB we must have posted at the same time. You poor thing! :hugs: for you too. I would be considering getting help too if I was still struggling with settling Sophie. I always thought when DS was a baby that he was a really difficult baby because I had so much trouble getting him to sleep but I've now realised that those babies that sleep well and easily are very much the exception and not the norm!! I've said so many times to my best friend (who has a bub a month older than Sophie) that I just can't wait for the day when Sophie's sleep stops ruling my life...

Kittylou
03-03-2008, 09:21
Hmmm, well it turns out I was right to be nervous - Sophie has just woken after a 40 minute sleep and is not interested in being resettled (no doubt she'll be cranky in about 10 minutes though). Is it too late to join that catnapper's club???

kaybee
03-03-2008, 10:07
I want to cancel our membership to the catnappers club!

Well the end of last week was terrible:gloomy:, Ava wasn't sleeping at all, being really difficult to settle, crying alot, waking up all night which is so out of character for her. I was starting to get worried that maybe that it's something more than a growth spurt. However, the weekend was better. At night she is still waking up more than she used to and still not sleeping during the day, but the unexplained crying episodes have pretty much stopped (touch wood). DH is still convinced she is teething. We can't see or feel anything going on with her gums...

I'm so exhausted. I was getting so down about it all and definitely at my wits end:hair:. Because she was such a good baby(I don't think we realised how good we had it!!) we have never had to "resettle" so to speak or calm down a screaming baby, as she never used to do it. It's been so frustrating. :fingerscrossed: Things will continue to improve. I want my happy contented baby back!

Hopefully this will be a better week for all of us!!

Yeh, Perrywinkle you are very brave studying with a little one, I couldn't do it!

shymmer
03-03-2008, 12:24
Oh these catnapping baby vibes are rampant arent' they?

Xav was still napping at midnight last ngiht! I put her down and thought she was down for her big sleep, but before I could even get to sleep she was awake at 1am . . . . for two hours!!!
I know I have to keep her awake more during the day, but entertaining a grizzling baby isn't so easy when you are dog tired yourself. I am gong to try tomorrow though. Am heading to my SIL's in the morning, then to shops . . . gonna be a big day with a tired baby, :fingerscrossed: I make it through!

perrywinkle
03-03-2008, 12:26
I just got this sent to me from a friend who's little one is now a perfect sleeper.

The book is called

"Save Our Sleep" by Tizzie Hall

Routine for a baby aged ten weeks until you introduce solids.

Feed times

7:00 am
3:00 pm
DREAM FEED 4.30pm
6:30 pm
DREAM FEED 10.30pm

Sleep Times

9am
1pm
NAP
7pm

BED TIME

7pm


7:00 am
Wake your baby up and feed her. You will wake and fee her even if she last fed at 5:30 am, so she is always starting her day at the same time and on a full tummy.

9:00 am
Wrap your baby and put her in bed on her back awake and allow her to self-settle.

11:00 am
Wake your baby and feed her.

1:00 pm
Wrap your baby and put her in bed on her back awake and allow her to self-settle.

3:00 pm
Wake you baby and feed her.

4:30 pm
Take you baby for a walk or out in the car to encourage her to sleep in places other than her bed. Don’t worry if she doesn’t as some babies only nap at this time every other day.

5:15 pm
Wake you baby up if necessary and bath her, or give top to toe wash.

6:30 pm
Give your baby a feed.

7:00 pm
Wrap your baby and put her in bed on her back awake and allow her to self-settle.

10:30 pm
Give your baby a dream feed.

Night Feeds
Feed your baby when she wakes during the night. During night feeds, try not to talk to your baby and keep the lights dim so your baby starts to understand the difference between night and day.

I pretty much do most of this except the dream feeds so will start tomorrow. But it is hard with DS going to Kindy 4 1/2 days a week too.

sasa
03-03-2008, 14:29
Hey Everyone,

OK personals first…

RB and Kiz those pics are sooo cute!

Vespera, Yay for Connor Rolling!

Mrs S Have you had that nurse over yet? Sorry I can’t remember when that was happening, if so how did it go?

Sands, so glad that Friday went well for you! How have your days been since?
How is the Losec going?

AB I hope the shingles aren’t giving you guys too much trouble, and Aliyah is feeling beter soon. The turtles sounds great, we have often spoken about getting one or two – we have a couple of fish tanks and DF is really into them, I think we would all enjoy some turtles… Just have to get a license I guess. Glad your Breastpump arrived and is good, ebay is awesome isn’t it, but dangerous lol

RB I hope you get a better night tonight, maybe Perrywinkles latest post with the routine suggestion might help…? Good luck.

Perrywinkle good on you for studying already! Best of luck with it, and thanks for your post with the routine suggestion, so close to what we do here so was good to read and see that we are on the right track.

Kittylou god luck getting back into your week time routine, can bugger things up a bit sometimes on the weekend hey. How have you been going finding something to get out to do during the week? Have you checked out your local library to see if they do Rhyme times or something, that can be fun.

Kaybee I am glad she has settled down a bit for you, I think I have posted a similar thing previously, when you are used to an easy going bub it can really spin you out when they are hard to settle and have a bit of a scream for what seems like no reason. Hopefully she is back to her old relaxed self very soon.

Shana, thinking of you, best of luck getting Xav back into a day/night time routine, she is a little party animal isn’t she! Sounds like a busy day tomorrow so hopefully she will be exhausted and discover how good night time is for sleeping again!

AliyahBlake
03-03-2008, 14:33
Oh, PW, Tizzie Hall is fabulous!! I follow many of her techniques and they really work, but I've found I've had to adapt them to suit us a bit. We still follow similar principles of hers. When Aliyah was a bub I subscribed to the Practical Parenting mag and Tizzie wrote many articles on sleep and settling which were excellent. I still have these mags so am happy to photocopy and post some of these articles to anyone who is interested.

In saying that, Blake is a fullt fledged member of the Catnapper Club at the moment. Today he's only had 2 hours sleep in his cot (in 1 hour lots) and 30 mins in my arms when I took Aliyah to the doc again (her rash is fully blistered like a bad sunburn, and spread all over her shoulder, collarbone, neck, upper arm and it's going up her scalp!). He is sleeping really well at night so I'm not too bothered!

sasa
03-03-2008, 14:37
We had a pretty good weekend here, Have been organising our Engagement party/Naming day for baby girl, decided to have a barefoot bowls day at the local Bowling Club so should be heaps of fun to get together with everyone, play some bowls, they are going to put on dinner for us, have a cake and a few drinks, I am really looking forward to it! Something different and also not at home so I don't end up cooking, waiting on everyone and cleaning up!
Have been engagement/wedding ring shopping again too, I am almost sure now that I am never going to find the right ring! I am fussy I know but I just want to find it and get it! We went to the city yesterday and after looking all afternoon we still came home not knowing what we want! I have a few pics I might have to get something made aarrgghhh I dreamt rings last night! Why does it have to feel so difficult, did anyone else have trouble finding/deciding on a ring?

Girls are both going really well, growing up so quickly!

We are off to Moreton in ONE week! very excited to get asway but lots of organising and packing to be done before then, I thought we had to take some stuff last year, this year with the two of them, and less room in the car will be interesting, we have a 4wd but most of the back seat is taken now with the kids seats.. we will work it out I am sure, just have to be a bit conservative with what we take I guess.

mmmm.... what else was I going to ramble about? Lucky for you guys I can't remember huh! Be back soon anyway I would say, might get started on dinner so I am organised tonight. Hope you are all well, been a quiet weekend on here suprisingly I didn't miss as many pages as I thought I would have xxx Stevie

sasa
03-03-2008, 14:38
Aww AB I am so sorry to hear that Aliyah's rash is spreading, I really feel for you guys. Hopefully the Doc will fix it up and she will be free of it soon :hugs::hugs:

krixly
03-03-2008, 17:38
Hi girls

It has been ages since I posted in here, but I have tried to keep up to date with what is going on for everyone.

AB - Your poor little girl must be so uncomfortable. My grandma has shingles at the moment too and I know she has been on Morphine etc because of the pain. Big :hugs: for A. Good to have those little turtles for her, how cute!

Sasa - I wasn't fussy at all with my rings - i like simple and opted for a plain wedding band and my engagement ring is a plain solitaire. I was also 19 when we got engaged so we couldn't afford much! :D Hope you can find the perfect rings soon.

To all the members of the catnappers club! Someone has obviously signed Nehemiah up for this too. Surely there is an 'unsubscribe' button somewhere!!

Nehemiah (although part of the catnappers club) is actually doin really well. he is sleeping brilliantly at night going to bed around 7pm and waking around 5.30-6am. He is also self settling the majority of his naps during the day which means that although he is catnapping, at least I am not trying to settle him for hours during the day. He has recently figured out how to suck his thumb too which helps.

I had to take N for his 4 month vaccinations today. :( Poor little thing started sooky crying when the nurse was giving him the oral polio vaccination and she hadn't even jabbed him yet!!! Of course since the jabs he has been quite sooky all day, and had a 'scream for no reason' session when he woke from a nap which is unlike him. He is also getting 2 little teeth down the bottom so I guess he is a little irritable anyway.

N was weighed and measured today and he is now 8.4kg and 67cm!!! What a little heffer!!! He is on the 97th percentile for both!!! He is also in size 0's. He is now rolling both ways and I can almost see him learning new tasks daily.

Loving being a mum at the moment!!!!:smiliedance:

Hope all of you have lovely nights with your bubs!

MrsScatterbrain
03-03-2008, 20:09
Hi everyone,

:hugs: To those who are sleep deprived.

Perrywinkle - that is simply amazing that you're going to uni! When do you find time to study? I'm lucky to even get near Bub Hub! :laughing:

Kittylou - how do you settle your little champ sleeper?

AB - Your poor little tot! :hugs: Could the doc help out with the spread of the rash? Its great she's still sleeping through it all.

Sasa - Ditto with krixly - I just chose a simple solitaire engagement ring, and on our wedding rings we had tiny little amethysts and diamonds - our birth stones. Eventually we hope to get Ben and Thomas' birth stones added too.

Krixly - wow, your Nehemiah is going great guns!

Nan - did you win your carseat on ebay? We have a maxirider, and its wonderful - no complaints at all.

Well, our sleep lady came today, and all went well - we managed to keep it nice! :laughing: She did shed some light on bits and pieces, and encouraged me to let Thomas sleep in in the morning instead of waking him at 6am to start our routine (a la Tizzy Hall). She said to wake him is to interrupt his first sleep cycle of the day (especially if he's only fed at 4am) and therefore start the day on a bad foot .. hmm. Oh so confused now! She recommended giving him the dummy when he wakes at 4am, to push him out to feed at 5am, then get up to Ben at 6am. I'm not sure where sleep for me fits in here! :confused:

I did the silliest thing on Friday - ate a chocolate bar!! Thomas was unsettled all weekend! I can't believe it completely slipped my mind that I shouldn't be eating it! D'oh! :laughing:

shymmer
03-03-2008, 20:38
Evening,

AB - I hope little Aliyah gets better super quick. She must be so uncomfortable, poor little thing.

Sasa - yay on your engagement party! I found my ring at an estate jewler. It's a wide ring (aprox 1cm) with three 'big' stones in a row surrounded by lots of little ones. I just wanted one ring, so it is my engagement and also my wedding ring.

Geez . . . Xav is not an easy baby to wake! I keep trying to cut her sleeps shorter this afternoon but she does not want to open those peeps before she is ready!! Besides reefing her out of the cot - which I dont want to do, I'm massaging her, tickling her, kissing and talking to her . . . nup :sleeping:, she just keeps snoozin' away . . .

Vespera
04-03-2008, 01:45
Hey girls!

I've missed you :hugs: We have had a HUGE weekend but my boy was perfect!

We drove to Esperance for the weekend (was my sisters birthday) so 7 hours there and Connor was a gem! The went to the races and back to the hotel for bed in a strange bed (I think he was so tired he didnt care!)

Sunday was a lazy day and then out for dinner, which he entertained everyone during with lots of smiles and giggles.

And today we had a BBQ lunch and then headed home at 2pm. He slept for 3 hours, woke for a feed and then slept the rest of the way home.

And tonite he is sleeping in his cot instead of the bassinette. Trial by fire! If he can do it away from home he can do it here too. And yep no probs going to sleep so shall see how long he sleeps for.

Hmmm maybe I should go to sleep too......

Hope everyone had a great weekend and hopefully can catch up with millions of posts tomorrow.

AliyahBlake
04-03-2008, 06:56
Nehemiah (although part of the catnappers club) is actually doin really well. he is sleeping brilliantly at night going to bed around 7pm and waking around 5.30-6am. He is also self settling the majority of his naps during the day which means that although he is catnapping, at least I am not trying to settle him for hours during the day. He has recently figured out how to suck his thumb too which helps.
N was weighed and measured today and he is now 8.4kg and 67cm!!! What a little heffer!!! He is on the 97th percentile for both!!! He is also in size 0's.

Krixly - Nehemiah sounds like he's doing so well! I wonder what's going on with our catnapping bubs? Must be the age seeing they're all doing it. Blake has started the thumbsucking too. He's never had a dummy so that's probably why - also because he's teething, I guess. Most of the November baby boys sound pretty big! Blake's over 7 kg now and I've just started putting him in some size 0's (still a little big but they're not so big that they don't look good on him!) I went through a couple of bags of hand-me-downs that live in Blake's cupboard and found some more stuff he's able to wear, so I really don't need to buy much stuff for him at present.




I did the silliest thing on Friday - ate a chocolate bar!! Thomas was unsettled all weekend! I can't believe it completely slipped my mind that I shouldn't be eating it! D'oh! :laughing:
Oh, bugger!! Thank God I can still have chocolate - it doesn't seem to bother Blake!:D



Geez . . . Xav is not an easy baby to wake! I keep trying to cut her sleeps shorter this afternoon but she does not want to open those peeps before she is ready!! Besides reefing her out of the cot - which I dont want to do, I'm massaging her, tickling her, kissing and talking to her . . . nup :sleeping:, she just keeps snoozin' away . . .
Wow, I wish Blake would be like that!!

I'm just about to get Blake up as he's stirring. Unfortunately the doc can't do anything about Aliyah's rash, but I saw a different one yesterday to the one who diagnosed her, and he was a bit more helpful (instead of just telling me to give her panadol!). He suggested I get some Phenergan and some anaesthetic lotion for the rash so she can be more comfortable, so that's what I did. She had a bit better night last night.

Rainbowbrite
04-03-2008, 07:20
AB i'm so sorry about Ailyah :hugs: Hope she's not in too much pain.

Sasa, I had no say lol, but can't complain. DH picked out my engagement & wedding set & its lovely :flowerz:

Krixly he certainly is a big boy!!!

MrsS - I have never altered my diet whilst bf & Ani has good & bad days. Do you think it could have just been a bad day?

On that Tizzie Hall routine, does anyone else find it odd that you don't bf bub between 7am & midday.....thats a really long stretch for such a little bub.

Glad you had a great weekend Vespera :D Makes all the difference when bub behaves.

We had another night of wakeups at 2 & 4 so i'm tired lol. But Ani did wake happily at 7am & has been so active. Put him on the floor to play & he turned around on his back & rolled to his tummy :smiliedance:

AliyahBlake
04-03-2008, 08:54
On that Tizzie Hall routine, does anyone else find it odd that you don't bf bub between 7am & midday.....thats a really long stretch for such a little bub.

RB - I think that could have been a typo, because there should be a morning feed in there!

I've taken a couple of pics of Aliyah's shingles and put the photobucket links here if anyone wants to see - they're pretty gross so if you have a weak stomach, don't look!! They look pink because of the lotion.

Back (http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l205/nicmillard/Aliyah-Shingles4copy.jpg)

Front (http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l205/nicmillard/Aliyah-Shingles2copy.jpg)

kaybee
04-03-2008, 10:31
Oh AB - Ouch!! Poor little Aliyah!

Bub only woke up once last night! Yay! :smiliedance:However, this morning has been another story. Put her in her cot to see if she would go to sleep, grizzling turned into crying! After going in, settling and leaving a few times, she ended up howling, so picked her up and sat down on couch for a cuddle. She fell asleep in around 5 minutes! Waited another 10 then carefully laid her down. She's been asleep for nearly 15. Was able to hang out a load of washing. Want to bake some bikkies for my mother's group tomorrow, but don't know if I'll be able to manage it.:fingerscrossed:

perrywinkle
04-03-2008, 10:41
OH WOW Ab that would be so painful. Poor little mite!!!

Unless my friend has made a typo in the routine but feeds are meant to be 7am, 11am, 3pm, 6.30pm with dream feeds at 4.30pm amd 10.30pm.

Well we had a shocker last night. She was up till 1am screaming and then finally went to bed and woke every 1 1/2 hrs after that. I'm absolutely exhauseted and we have to go out to tea tonight for my mum's b'day so it's going to be a long day/night!

She's got a cold so I might put the vapouriser in her room tonight maybe. Has anyone tried this http://www.dimetapp.com.au/dimetapp-infants-ibuprofen.aspx . I think its new and lasts for 8hrs. I haven't really had a chance to look into it just the 8hrs relief takes my fancy!!!

Kittylou
04-03-2008, 11:38
Kittylou - how do you settle your little champ sleeper?


Gosh, it feels funny to have Sophie called a champ sleeper after all the struggles we had in the first couple of months!! She really is very good now, though. During the day, I wrap her up under the arms (she usually starts crying at this point) and then walk around holding her and patting her bottom doing what my sister refers to as the "silly dance" until she calms down and closes her eyes, then I put her in the cot. She usually opens her eyes, has a bit of a look around and then nods off. Sometimes she will cry immediately so then I pick her up and do the same thing until the eyes close again and then back in the cot. Usually takes about 5 minutes from wrapping to sleeping baby. If she wakes after one sleep cycle, I do this all over again - sometimes it works, sometimes not.

Nighttime is a bit different as she is a bit feral then. I basically do the same thing but once she is asleep (which can take anywhere from 5-20 minutes) I sit on the couch with her in my arms for probably an hour before putting her down. If I try to put her down straight away or even after 15-20 minutes she will wake after about 20 minutes and I have to start the whole thing again - only this time it takes longer as she has had a little bit of sleep so isn't exhausted and ready to sleep. I think this qualifies me for a rod for my back for rocking/patting my baby to sleep but for me it's a small price to pay...

On another note, I really feel for you on the chocolate thing. I was just saying to my best friend the other day that I would be struggling if I was still BFing. Sophie never seemed unsettled due to anything I ate but she would get a very red, sore bum. I'm an absolute chocoholic and even 4 weeks without it seemed like an eternity to me although I did develop a taste for white chocolate magnums!!!


Geez . . . Xav is not an easy baby to wake! I keep trying to cut her sleeps shorter this afternoon but she does not want to open those peeps before she is ready!! Besides reefing her out of the cot - which I dont want to do, I'm massaging her, tickling her, kissing and talking to her . . . nup :sleeping:, she just keeps snoozin' away . . .

I feel your pain on this one Shana. I have to wake Sophie most days to feed her before we pick Blake up from school. It breaks my heart to do it every time - she looks so peaceful. I've tried being subtle too but in the end I just have to unwrap her and if that doesn't work I just pick her up and she gives me this death stare. DH is always saying that she must be so confused - we're always wanting her to go to sleep but then when she is asleep I go and wake the poor thing up!!

Vespera, glad you had a great weekend. Wow, Connor was fabulous in the car!!! I would be terrified of taking Sophie on such a long trip.

Sasa, engagement ring shopping is tough! I thought I knew what I wanted when we did it but when I tried on the style I liked, it just didn't do it for me. I finally found a ring that I loved but it was over our budget so we searched every jewellery store in Brisbane to find one similar but cheaper with absolutely no luck. We eventually decided to get it made but then DH surprised me when he proposed by buying the one that I loved despite the cost.

Oops, gotta go. Sophie's awake after 45 minutes so going to try to resettle...

sandralee
04-03-2008, 11:45
We had a pretty good weekend here, Have been organising our Engagement party/Naming day for baby girl, decided to have a barefoot bowls day at the local Bowling Club
, did anyone else have trouble finding/deciding on a ring?
We are off to Moreton in ONE week! Barefoot Bowls sounds FUN! (& so do the drinks LOL!) It was our 1st anniversary yest & we were both exhausted - my dad didn't leave til after 7pm either, & has spent most of 2weeks with us. Still have't picked out a wedding ring LOL - we had 2 ceremonies - one for just us, by the pool.. I chose a citrine crystal ring for that one (inexpensive) as it has great pregnancy/bay properties.. and meant to get another one for our main ceremony with family, but still haven't got around to that yet! The right one will pop up eventually & doesn't phase me.
Enjoy your holiday to Moreton Stevie! Beautiful time of the year to go before it gets too cold!
How exciting!


Aww AB I am so sorry to hear that Aliyah's rash is spreading, I really feel for you guys. Hopefully the Doc will fix it up and she will be free of it soon :hugs::hugs:
DITTO!! :kiss:

Guys I won't reply to everything cos there are too many! WHile my dad was staying I felt like I had to entertain him or at least chat to him, plus we have had a lot on. Noah has been having all day sleeps in his nursery - all catnaps, but I am aiming to string a couple of those together so he as a big sleep in themorning and arvo. That consultant told me to leave him in his cot, even if he didn't go back to sleep, and just keep resettling so he getsthe message. Tried doing that before but he had done a poo so that ruined it for me LOL. Also can't leave the dummy in after he falls asleep cos he knocks it out after one sleep cycle and then wakes fully looking for it grrr! Also going to wean him off his snugglebed after tweaking his daytime sleeps (one thing at a time or my head swims!!) by taking the mattress out of it and rolling towels on either side of him..then removing one towel.
Steve bough us a new washing machine yest (is a dryer as well) so have to figure out how to use it without blowing it up. :D Noah's birth certificate finally arrived on fri, after 9 weeks waiting!
Off to put away washing/shower/mop/figure out the washing machine/grocery shop/visit the bottle shop:D/iron/think of what to cook for dinner/sterilise bottles/buy MORE bottles/clean out the fridge/clean the bathrooms/return phone calls/go to the post office to pickup a new sim card (optus has better coverage here).....you know the deal LOL.. as well as spend time with Noah..tummy time.. playtime.. feeds...bath... resettling marathons......... and try to figure out how to squeeze in more 'me time.'
Love to all of you!
p.s. after 30-40mins of resettling he has gone back off to finish his sleep. I wish I had done this sooner - even if he didn't go back to sleep, it certainly helps stretch out feeds & gives me more time (albeit in short spurts) to get stuff done. That lady told me they eventually get the idea, that they are staying in bed for more sleep. How exciting LOL! Aiming for 2 big sleeps each day (1.5-2hrs)... I am so over the catnapping - too confusing with sleep-feed-play!!! Feeding every 45 mins would be annoying!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

sandralee
04-03-2008, 11:53
p.s. Losec must be working as he is taking bigger feeds - now drinking 60-100ml...as opposed to 20ml!!! xx

AliyahBlake
04-03-2008, 12:08
I've just bought a new manual breast pump on Ebay - the electric one just wasn't right. I couldn't relax with it whirring, so I had no let-down reflex, hence was only getting about 20mls from both sides! Also, if I tried turning it up to get more milk out it just hurt :no:. So girls, let me know if any of you would like a slightly used electric pump, otherwise I'm going to list it back on Ebay over the next couple of days. Hopefully I'll get the new one quickly as I opted for express post.

kaybee
04-03-2008, 12:36
Geez . . . Xav is not an easy baby to wake! I keep trying to cut her sleeps shorter this afternoon but she does not want to open those peeps before she is ready!! Besides reefing her out of the cot - which I dont want to do, I'm massaging her, tickling her, kissing and talking to her . . . nup :sleeping:, she just keeps snoozin' away . . .

Ava used to be like this! If only she still was!


We drove to Esperance for the weekend (was my sisters birthday) so 7 hours there and Connor was a gem!

Wow I'm gald the car trip went well, we have a 6.5 - 7 hr trip to do at Easter to my home town, we're pretty nervous about it.



Why does it have to feel so difficult, did anyone else have trouble finding/deciding on a ring?



Sasa, engagement ring shopping is tough! I thought I knew what I wanted when we did it but when I tried on the style I liked, it just didn't do it for me.

I went with a fairly plain solitaire. Like Kittylou, I had been eyeing off a certain style for ages, but when we went into the city for the day to find a ring and I tried on that style, it didn't look right. Ended up back at the first place we went to, with a ring nothing like what I thought I wanted. But I love it. As soon as I put it on, I knew it was the one.


I've just bought a new manual breast pump on Ebay - the electric one just wasn't right. I couldn't relax with it whirring, so I had no let-down reflex, hence was only getting about 20mls from both sides! Also, if I tried turning it up to get more milk out it just hurt :no:.

Bummer about the pump. I think I'll stick with my manual one, as I will probably only ever pump once a day at the most. My pumping is getting better. Got 50 mls after 20 minutes this morning and only got let down on one side. It's hard to get it to happen for me. I've never found the sound of a crying baby or looking at Ava works.

A Question: How much should she have in a bottle? I don't know how much to defrost. I'm freezing it in ice-cube trays and I've worked out that it's 15ml in each cube.

Vespera
04-03-2008, 13:03
A Question: How much should she have in a bottle? I don't know how much to defrost. I'm freezing it in ice-cube trays and I've worked out that it's 15ml in each cube.

We have between 100mls and 125mls in each bottle. If he is only a little bit hungry one is fine but if he is starving he will have 2.

I expressed about 6 bottles before our trip and just fed Connor in the car seat and when we stopped for fuel got him out for a stretch, a breast feed and nappy change.
We needed 3 bottles there but only 2 on the way back.

Connor slept all night in his cot and he is asleep in there now too! :smiliedance: My boys a champ.

kaybee
04-03-2008, 13:45
Thanks for that Vespera!

My clever little girl started grabbing her feet the other week and on Saturday, she managed to stick one in her mouth!!

See some photo's of her holding them!

My feet (http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z64/kaybee_75/Ava%20Feb%2008/PICT0293.jpg)
My feet 2 (http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z64/kaybee_75/Ava%20Feb%2008/PICT0295.jpg)

Moops
04-03-2008, 17:46
Hi everyone

Did u miss me???!:rolleyes:
Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I've been quite busy doing what I have no idea!!

Luca is doing better and doing random long stretches, one night he did 7 hours then the following night he was back to his 4 hours. I have no idea anymore!

He used to love going in the car now he hates it! He screams blue murder everytime now, very stressful! We have to travel 6 hours (each way) on the weekend so I'm very nervous!

Glad to hear alot of bubs are sleeping better and learning new things! Luca takes out his dummy with his hands and can put it back in! One less job for me! :laughing:

shymmer
04-03-2008, 18:01
Wow Moops and kaybee - that's awesome! What a clever little bubs you have. I find it so amazing to see Xav figuring those things out (hers is still a tad hit and miss!).


Here is a pic of Miss X at 3mths.
"http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/Shana075/dcp_1784.jpg"

MrsScatterbrain
04-03-2008, 20:02
MrsS - I have never altered my diet whilst bf & Ani has good & bad days. Do you think it could have just been a bad day?


Great point - but if only! :D Chocolate has been a sore point even when I was bf DS1. I think that's the only food that has a reaction, though ...


I'm an absolute chocoholic and even 4 weeks without it seemed like an eternity to me although I did develop a taste for white chocolate magnums!!!

Me and white chocolate have been great friends for quite some time now! :laughing: The best I've found is Heaven type with raspberry. Oh no ... my mouth is watering!!! I had to laugh at what your sister calls the 'silly dance'!! I do it too - it wouldn't make the dancefloors of the hottest nightclubs, would it!! Thanks for the settling tips.



Off to put away washing/shower/mop/figure out the washing machine/grocery shop/visit the bottle shop:D/iron/think of what to cook for dinner/sterilise bottles/buy MORE bottles/clean out the fridge/clean the bathrooms/return phone calls/go to the post office to pickup a new sim card

lol! I know how you feel! Sometimes I wonder why I can't lose my baby weight as I'm always running around so much! (Perhaps I should read my first two paragraphs for some enlightenment!!)

Shana and Kaybee, your bubs are gorgeous!! While we're all sharing, this is Thomas (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s279/MrsScatterbrain/Image023.jpg) in the back of the Phil and Teds. DH thinks he looks like he is going to punch someone!! I'll take a smiley one next time!

AB - those photos are heartbreaking. Did you doc ever tell you why she has had them so young?

Poor little Thomas has had a slight upset tum from the antibiotics I'm taking for a cough I've had since he was born (:eek:). :crying: The pharmacist recommended I keep taking them, and treating T's symptoms, but I feel terrible! Poor little fella! I wish I had a expressed milk stash in the freezer.

Take care everyone! :wave:

sandralee
04-03-2008, 20:53
Moops I have one word....DRUGS LOL! Nah, just tune into the cricket on the radio, that should bore him to sleep lol. (just jokin Nan) That's a looong car trip!
I had a bad mummy moment and dropped a tube of ammolin bum cream on Noah's foot (from about 30cm) and boy did he SCREAM! Didn't help that he was so tired and ready for bed, he had already started descendig into night mode.. I think he will probably call Kids Help Line on me LOL.
Stuck with re-settling today for a morning and a arvo sleep - much better than catnapping, sheesh! Even though I had to make a few trips into the nursery, it was still heaps better than entertaining him for so much of the day - and easier to space out his feeds a bit more. Today was his best day ever for feeding, before bed he had 120ml yay! (er, that's actually good for Noah lol, used to be little bite sized snacks of about 10-20ml...& 50ml on occasions. Medication seems to be helping.
Im not sure about continuing with dreamfeeds - most of the time he is out like a light, too tired to drink anything, then is restless for a while cos I have disturbed him. Hmmm. Sometimes he will surprise me though. Do dreamfeeds just prevent them from getting bad waking habits? If I waited until he woke up naturally, what's the worst that can happen?
Didn't achieve much off my list today, but still got quite a bit done here. Have even had some 'me' time & set up my Iphone that Steve bought me for valentine's day, almost 3wks later lol. Better late than never!:D Ordered a BebePod on friday - it's like a bumbo, but it has a tray that you can attach to the front. Can't wait to see Noah in it! He is still getting used to his high chair & car/walker thingy, he loves them so far but just for short ammounts of time while it is so new and different for him.
Untied the snugglebed today to make it larger, was getting way too 'snug' for him lol - took the cover off it and just sat it straight under the cot sheet. He really loves snuggling so I am in 2 minds about weaning him off it. So cute, he cuddles up to a soft bonds t-shirt that I wore to bed a couple of times, & rubs it over his eyes and face as he is going off to sleep. Aww.
Do any other babies out there have little knots in the back of their head from rubbing their head side to side? Makes me want to use detangling spray lol.
Big healing hugs to Aliyah, dear little thing = that would be so cruel to watch her go through any discomfort! :kiss:xxxxxxxxxxxx

Moops
05-03-2008, 06:33
Moops I have one word....DRUGS LOL! Nah, just tune into the cricket on the radio, that should bore him to sleep lol. (just jokin Nan) That's a looong car trip!
I had a bad mummy moment and dropped a tube of ammolin bum cream on Noah's foot (from about 30cm) and boy did he SCREAM! Didn't help that he was so tired and ready for bed, he had already started descendig into night mode.. I think he will probably call Kids Help Line on me LOL.
Stuck with re-settling today for a morning and a arvo sleep - much better than catnapping, sheesh! Even though I had to make a few trips into the nursery, it was still heaps better than entertaining him for so much of the day - and easier to space out his feeds a bit more. Today was his best day ever for feeding, before bed he had 120ml yay! (er, that's actually good for Noah lol, used to be little bite sized snacks of about 10-20ml...& 50ml on occasions. Medication seems to be helping.
Im not sure about continuing with dreamfeeds - most of the time he is out like a light, too tired to drink anything, then is restless for a while cos I have disturbed him. Hmmm. Sometimes he will surprise me though. Do dreamfeeds just prevent them from getting bad waking habits? If I waited until he woke up naturally, what's the worst that can happen?
Didn't achieve much off my list today, but still got quite a bit done here. Have even had some 'me' time & set up my Iphone that Steve bought me for valentine's day, almost 3wks later lol. Better late than never!:D Ordered a BebePod on friday - it's like a bumbo, but it has a tray that you can attach to the front. Can't wait to see Noah in it! He is still getting used to his high chair & car/walker thingy, he loves them so far but just for short ammounts of time while it is so new and different for him.
Untied the snugglebed today to make it larger, was getting way too 'snug' for him lol - took the cover off it and just sat it straight under the cot sheet. He really loves snuggling so I am in 2 minds about weaning him off it. So cute, he cuddles up to a soft bonds t-shirt that I wore to bed a couple of times, & rubs it over his eyes and face as he is going off to sleep. Aww.
Do any other babies out there have little knots in the back of their head from rubbing their head side to side? Makes me want to use detangling spray lol.
Big healing hugs to Aliyah, dear little thing = that would be so cruel to watch her go through any discomfort! :kiss:xxxxxxxxxxxx

Hiya hun! :wave: Long time no read!
I am quite nervous about the long drive but we are going at night now so hopefully he will sleep and it won't disrupt his routine too much. We bought a proper cot last night and tonight is his first night in it, so :fingerscrossed:!

The sleep consultant that we had come over suggested doing the dreamfeeds so they don't associate waking up with getting/wanting food. I've never done one because Luca can fully wake up after being fast asleep so I'm too scared to disturb him! If he is asleep when I'm giving him his bottle he'll even wake up when he burps!

I have a friend here whose baby has reflux and hardly eats anything, she is really worried and stressed out. Do you have any tips I can give her that u learnt?

I bought Luca a toy mobile phone, he defininetly looks like a mini mogul now I'll have to take a pic for u Sands!

Hope u all have a good nights sleep! :hugs:

MrsScatterbrain
05-03-2008, 07:11
Moops, I forgot to say last night - have you tried a little string of toys across the seat where Luca can see them? That made a huge difference with Thomas in the car. (Actually, in general he's more chilled out if he has something in his immediate line of view - I wish I could find a mobile to fit his change mat lol! :laughing:)

Sands - I'm glad I'm not the only person who calls nappy rash cream 'bum cream'!! DS1 now calls it 'yellow cream' (pawpaw cream) and insists on putting it on Thomas' privates every nappy change! He has the most supple bottom going around!! :D What is an Iphone? (or is that a typo and you meant phone?)

AliyahBlake
05-03-2008, 07:25
Me and white chocolate have been great friends for quite some time now! :laughing: The best I've found is Heaven type with raspberry. Oh no ... my mouth is watering!!!

While we're all sharing, this is Thomas (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s279/MrsScatterbrain/Image023.jpg) in the back of the Phil and Teds. DH thinks he looks like he is going to punch someone!! I'll take a smiley one next time!

AB - those photos are heartbreaking. Did you doc ever tell you why she has had them so young?

Mmmm, Mrs S, my mouth's watering now too :laughing:

Thomas looks so cute!

Unfortunately the shingles is just one of those things. It can be brought on by stress, so the GP thinks it could be stemming from Blake's birth. Thinking about that now, he could be right, as before Aliyah got sick she had been having nightmares about me going to hospital.





Do any other babies out there have little knots in the back of their head from rubbing their head side to side? Makes me want to use detangling spray lol.

Nope, don't have that problem...Blake doesn't have enough hair, and he has a little bald spot instead of a tangle!! :laughing:

Roxy76
05-03-2008, 08:53
Im not sure about continuing with dreamfeeds - most of the time he is out like a light, too tired to drink anything, then is restless for a while cos I have disturbed him. Hmmm. Sometimes he will surprise me though. Do dreamfeeds just prevent them from getting bad waking habits? If I waited until he woke up naturally, what's the worst that can happen?

Didn't achieve much off my list today, but still got quite a bit done here.

Do any other babies out there have little knots in the back of their head from rubbing their head side to side? Makes me want to use detangling spray lol.


the last two nights Maddison has not had her late night feed (around 10-11pm) as she too was out like a light! I just let her sleep and she woke up normal time yesterday (9am) and today (7:20am) - so i have decided if she is that asleep, I will just let her sleep. If I have to get up to her I will, but she seems happy to just sleep through!

I have a list of things to do also and aim to get so much more everyday, but doesn't seem to happen! lol but i guess we will get there!

Maddi gets knots in her hair and seems to collect fluff from blankets etc and it gets in her knots, i am constantly pulling 1 or 2 out every day or two! she doesn't seem to mind me getting it out which make sit so much easier! so i know what you mean about wanting to use spray LOL

sandralee
05-03-2008, 13:11
I wish I could find a mobile to fit his change mat lol! :laughing:)
:D What is an Iphone? (or is that a typo and you meant phone?)
I love that paw paw ointment but always have other stuff on hand if I run out - it doesn't cling to your fingers like some of the creams out there. Re the mobile over the change mat, I have the change table near te cot, so just put the mobile on the bottom end of it, & he can see it when I change him. Would that work with the way your nursery is set up?
An Iphone is an i-pod phone, they haven't been released in Australia yet - has heaps of features, ipod/camera/gps-maps thing/internet/touch screen/can flick through pages of things on it like you are flicking pages in a book, just by making the motion on the screen/7Gigs of storage for pics/video etc That's about all I have worked out so far but it's pretty cool.



Maddi gets knots in her hair and seems to collect fluff from blankets etc and it gets in her knots, i am constantly pulling 1 or 2 out every day or two! she doesn't seem to mind me getting it out which make sit so much easier! so i know what you mean about wanting to use spray LOL
Yeah! Ditto with the fluff balls!! I was cutting them out, but at this rate he will have no hair left LOL! Thinking of either a spray of detanging solution, or a small ammount of baby massage oil to keep the hair soft/prevent knotting. Not sure!

Moops the mobile sounds gorgeous, I can just imagine him with it! Re the reflux bub, for tummy time, roll a towel under the play mat, so that it sits under the baby's arms which will help keep their head above their stomach. Use a bigger size in disposables - basically prevent any tummy squashing, whether its holding them or with their clothes (eg shorts with waist band pressure etc - better to use all-in-ones or overall type things until the reflux eases) I have Noah in toddler nappies during the day, and crawler at night when we aren't nursing him. Was putting him in cloth during the day, but he hated whe I would lay him down to change him, so have gone back to using disposables but giving him nappy-free time to compensate. A little bit of mylanta before some of his feeds, if he is looking a bit unsettled or is deepthroating his hands. Raised his cots with a phonebook and a brick up the head end. Keep upright after feeds where possible for about 20mins or so. Comfy clothes whle in the car, as the capsule puts pressure on their tummies. Don't jiggle them around a lot or put them in anything that rocks them too hard. Apparently it can get wore when they start crawling cos their head isn't always above their tummies. Nice. I have so many cute pairs of shorts for Noah, but will wait til he grows out of this reflux business - small price to pay for his comfort! Will write more as I think of stuff. Gotta make the most of the little man's sleep time while it lasts & learn how to use this washing machine FAST! Then make a beeline for the coffee machine lol! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Kizmet
05-03-2008, 14:17
hi ladies!!

I am doubting the dream feed too! Robbie is out like a light until I start to feed him then is restless the entire night and not sleeping as well as he should be...even when burped but burping him wakes him up more and he doesnt want to sleep after that :confused:

Thinking of putting him to bed at around 7:30-8 as normal then physically getting him up at 10:30-11 , have your little play then bottle then back to bed and hope to go he realises it is night time

Or will that screw things up completely? Ive always been one to say never wake a sleeping baby but I just need to shift him backwards a few hours :laughing:

Any advice ladies?

Sorry no time for personals am enjoying a quite moment while both children sleep (well Abby is having some quiet time) and i have time out from birthday party organising!

I have got sooooo much on my list of things to do it just isnt funny! Really wish John had more time off up his sleeve could use the help atm but we wil soldier on!

Vespera
05-03-2008, 14:36
Mrs S: I have a mobile that clips on to the edge of my change table. Its this (http://www.babiesgalore.com.au/view_product_new.php?productid=1567&returnUrl2=%2Fshow_product_search.php%3Fsearchtype %3Dcategory%26categoryid%3D58) one from Big W. Otherwise I did see one in kmart the other day that suctions to the wall. Its the only thing that keeps Connor occupied during the change!

Kizmet: I might be REALLY slow. But congrats on being pink!

Kizmet
05-03-2008, 14:38
Thanks Ves :D youre not slow it only happened last night :laughing:

perrywinkle
05-03-2008, 15:06
Hi Ladies, no time for personals right now. I've had a bit of a melt down last night and today. Lack of sleep has caused it. Ali is sick and is not sleeping at all during the night and not feeding very well because of her blocked nose. Took her to the doctors this afternoon. She has a red throat but not red enough for antibiotics so it's panadol and saline drops for the nose and lots of vicks on her chest! And she's sneezing and coughing heaps too.

I've been running on 4hrs of sleep every night for the past 5 nights and feeling quite down and exhausted. Everything's all right though just need her to get better so I can catch up on sleep. Oh and it had to happen 1st week of Uni didn't it LOL!!!

Take care all!!!

sandralee
05-03-2008, 15:52
[quote=Kizmet;2428378]hi ladies!!

I am doubting the dream feed too! Robbie is out like a light until I start to feed him then is restless the entire night and not sleeping as well as he should be
Thinking of putting him to bed at around 7:30-8 as normal then physically getting him up at 10:30-11 , have your little play then bottle then back to bed and hope to go he realises it is night time
Or will that screw things up completely? Ive always been one to say never wake a sleeping baby but I just need to shift him backwards a few hours :laughing:
Any advice ladies?
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I find Noah gets into 'the zone' between 6.30-7pm, so he has his last feed around 6.30 then put him into his grobag & bed by 7pm. Each night I go in to do a dreamfeed between 10-11pm, most nights he is just happy to have 20-50mls, if ANY, & I mostly find it to be a waste of time. However, on occasions he will skull down 80-100ml - so I am in two minds.
Last night, for something different, I scooped him out of the cot to feed him & still the same problem... he was all groggy & wasn't really interested.. the first time he woke at 1.30am he skulled a 100ml bottle I had made up, but I didn't end up getting any more for him & he didn't scream for it. Then he woke at 4.30 & only drank 30-40ml, so might be better sticking with putting the dummy in instead. I keep forgeting to take it out again though after he has settled in to sleep, so he will sometimes wake when it falls out after he moves his head around.. or knocks it with his hand. He is good at getting it back in a lot of the time, but if he loses it under his head or something, he wakes up. (well not 'wakes' cos his eyes rarely open when he wakes during the night, & if they do, they shut again just as quickly! Thank goodness!) I might try doing later dreamfeeds or something.. between 11-12 maybe. Is there a reason why they say so early? (3-4hrs after bedtime feed)
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p.s. Is someone pregnant? Saw a 'congrats on the pink' in someone's post..& started wondering how someone could be brave enough right now, LOL! xxx

Kizmet
05-03-2008, 15:56
i'm pink sandralee :D no no not pregnant! I would not be anywhere near this calm if I was! :laughing:

Im a mod now :D

sandralee
05-03-2008, 16:07
Well a massive CONGRATS to you!! :yelclap: I thought you were really brave having another baby this quickly LOL, I couldn't even begin to imagine what that would be like at this point! WHich reminds me... I stopped taking the mini pill, so should probably get in to GP asap for the normal strength pill!!:D I haven't rushed though cos BD'ing twice in almost 4mths hardly constitutes 'big guns' contraception LOL! xx

Roxy76
05-03-2008, 16:32
Thinking of putting him to bed at around 7:30-8 as normal then physically getting him up at 10:30-11 , have your little play then bottle then back to bed and hope to go he realises it is night time

Or will that screw things up completely? Ive always been one to say never wake a sleeping baby but I just need to shift him backwards a few hours :laughing:

Any advice ladies?


most of the time that is what i do, but have tried pulling the last feed to between 9-10pm now. works fine and will usually then sleep till between 7:30am-9:30am!!!!! :smiliedance::cloud9::flowerz:

the last 2 nights i did not do the last feed as she was out like a light and she still slept thru!:thumbsup:

Roxy76
05-03-2008, 16:34
Im a mod now :D

:yelclap:YAY!!! FOR YOU!!!!!!! :flowerz:

Moops
05-03-2008, 17:41
Have even had some 'me' time & set up my Iphone that Steve bought me for valentine's day, almost 3wks later lol. Better late than never!:D

Hey Sands what network have u got your iphone on? Or is it unlocked? It is available in the UK on the O2 network only, some people are selling unlocked ones but Apple have said that if u buy them once the regular updates start coming through it will stop working...it put me off buying one on ebay!

Well we put Luca in his "big boy cot" last night and he woke up every 2-3 hours! D'oh! I think it is too big for him, for those bubs that are in cots do u use a snugglenbed? And where do u get them??

Congrats on Mod status Kate! Wow two pink November mummies!!

kaybee
05-03-2008, 18:36
Thanks Ves :D youre not slow it only happened last night :laughing:

I thought I had been slow too! Congrats Kiz!

Perrywinkle :hugs::hugs: Thought you could do with some of these. Hope Ali gets better soon and you get some sleep!

Bub is up and down, with each day being different at the moment! After one hight of only waking up once, last night it was 4 times!!

Now I can settle her quite easily even during the day, but she just wont stay asleep. Today 2x 10 minute naps then one 40min and that's all today!

Need some sleep so I'm thinking after the usual feed at 6.30ish, I should have tea then go to bed for a nap at around 8.30, then get up at 10 - 10.30pm for last feed. I don't know. Those of you that are skipping the late dream feed, are you bf? I can't remember. If so, how are you handling the exploding bbs in the morning?? I would be in a bit of pain, really the 10.30pm feed seems to be more for me to empty my bbs a bit, rather than feeding bub.

AliyahBlake
05-03-2008, 19:25
Hi Ladies, no time for personals right now. I've had a bit of a melt down last night and today. Lack of sleep has caused it. Ali is sick and is not sleeping at all during the night and not feeding very well because of her blocked nose. Took her to the doctors this afternoon. She has a red throat but not red enough for antibiotics so it's panadol and saline drops for the nose and lots of vicks on her chest! And she's sneezing and coughing heaps too.

I've been running on 4hrs of sleep every night for the past 5 nights and feeling quite down and exhausted. Everything's all right though just need her to get better so I can catch up on sleep. Oh and it had to happen 1st week of Uni didn't it LOL!!!

Take care all!!!
:hugs: Perrywinkle - I hope Ali gets better soon.....of course it always happens when you really don't have time for it!! Good luck with your assignments, hun. I applaud you for tackling nursing studies with little ones - it's hard enough doing something like that when you've just left school and all you need to think about is what hot guy you're going to pash at the Uni Bar night and if you're going to brave a science lecture still half p!$$ed the morning after!!! :laughing:



most of the time that is what i do, but have tried pulling the last feed to between 9-10pm now. works fine and will usually then sleep till between 7:30am-9:30am!!!!!

the last 2 nights i did not do the last feed as she was out like a light and she still slept thru!

That's terrific Roxy! I usually do a dreamfeed about 10:30pm, but Blake still wakes anywhere between 3 and 6am for a feed. So unpredictable!!



Those of you that are skipping the late dream feed, are you bf? I can't remember. If so, how are you handling the exploding bbs in the morning?? I would be in a bit of pain, really the 10.30pm feed seems to be more for me to empty my bbs a bit, rather than feeding bub.
:iagree: I definitely still need to offload my boobie juice at 10:30!! It's bad enough when he sleeps through from 10:30 til 6 - I'm about to explode by then, but it's good as I can usually express heaps later in the morning when that happens as there's still plenty of milk in reserve!!

BTW - congrats Kiz on becoming a mod :yelclap: (I did congratulate you in the announcement thread too, but thought I'd add it here as well!).

MrsScatterbrain
05-03-2008, 20:01
Nope, don't have that problem...Blake doesn't have enough hair, and he has a little bald spot instead of a tangle!!
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:iagree: Thomas is a fully fledged Mr. Magoo atm! :laughing: DS1 used to have mini-dreadlocks once he was older and had more hair, and nothing could stop them!



Ahas heaps of features, ipod/camera/gps-maps thing/internet/touch screen/can flick through pages of things on it like you are flicking pages in a book, just by making the motion on the screen/7Gigs of storage for pics/video etc

I feel like such a grandma! Lol! Sounds really cool.


Mrs S: I have a mobile that clips on to the edge of my change table.

Oooh, thanks so much for that! What a brilliant idea!


I haven't rushed though cos BD'ing twice in almost 4mths hardly constitutes 'big guns' contraception LOL! xx

Ditto - if I fall preg at the moment, it would be divine intervention! ;)

Perriwinkle - :hugs: The first colds for bubs are awful, aren't they? They just don't know what is going on. :no: Hope everything looks up for you soon.

Congratulations Kizmet! :thumbsup:

Kaybee - it sounds like you have a brilliant supply! Wow.

I'm considering pushing Thomas out to 3.5 hourly feeds this weekend, to see if he wakes more at night, or not. It'll give us heaps more flexibility and we'll be able to have a better routine.

I have a question, though - do you think I could start the day with a 3 hour feed (to fit in with DS1's routine), then continue with 3.5/4 hourly feeds for the rest of the day? (Or would the initial 3 hour feed set his clock from then on?) Hmmm - I don't want to get caught short if he wants to be fed 3 hours for the second cycle as we're always out!

Roxy76
05-03-2008, 23:29
I have a question, though - do you think I could start the day with a 3 hour feed (to fit in with DS1's routine), then continue with 3.5/4 hourly feeds for the rest of the day? (Or would the initial 3 hour feed set his clock from then on?) Hmmm - I don't want to get caught short if he wants to be fed 3 hours for the second cycle as we're always out!

i do that most days and it always works out! :thumbsup:

Rainbowbrite
06-03-2008, 06:41
Hi ladies, sorry for the lack of personals. Have had a really rough couple of nights here. MJ has been up 3-4 times a night with nightmares (no idea what has caused them) & Ani has been waking every 2hours :( Night before last he slept till 4 but last night he was up every 1.5hrs :sleepy: I'm hoping its just a growth spurt :fingerscrossed:

Best be off, here he goes again :hissy:

AliyahBlake
06-03-2008, 07:11
Hey RB - our kids must be in sync as we've had a similar couple of nights here. Aliyah hasn't had any more nightmares but her rash is driving her crazy so she's restless and up a couple of times a night. Blake is teething again so has been waking every 3-4 hours through the night - he was in his rocker this morning while I was getting breakfast and he started rubbing the side of his face..........here we go! Yesterday his cheeks had a slight pink tinge.
Yesterday Blake started responding to his name!! Aliyah and I had fun all day getting him to look at us when we said his name and it got to the stage everytime we said it he'd just crack up! :D

I'm considering dropping Blake's dreamfeed in a few weeks time - I won't be able to feed him at 10:30pm when I start back at work, so I'll have to get him used to not having it. He probably won't care as he's usually bombed when I go in to feed him anyway. I'm also going to start him on solids when he turns 5 months, as I want him to be in a routine with that by the time I go back to work as well. He's a big boy so I think he'll definitely be ready by then. Hopefully that'll get him sleeping longer at night, too!!

Kizmet
06-03-2008, 07:29
ok im joining the crazy babies and hightmareish toddlers group!

Abby has resisted going to sleep then woken up crying a few times a night for a week now too! peaked the night before last when she screamed non stop for 4 hours before i bribed her with dora to put her to sleep . Robbie is up that many times a night i cant even remember all i know is it seems like i shut my eyes and then he is awake again. When i woke this moring it felt like i hadnt slept at all

shymmer
06-03-2008, 07:30
OMG. I am dead on my feet.
Xav has slept 3 x 20min naps since 1.30am! Thankfully I never went to bed after she fell asleep b/c I didn't think she would sleep that long, but 20mins???? I don't know how she can be awake so long! She's not grumpy, amazingly and thank god. But I am starting to feel rather crabby myself. I haven't had any sleep since 3pm yesterday, which doesn't sound too bad until you add in that all week I've had rotten /broken / unsatifying day sleeps. I'm lucky to get two hours together . . . hmmm, that describes the last 3 1/2mths actually :banghead:.

Ok - gotta go, she's grizzling . . jeez, I wonder why . . .

shymmer
06-03-2008, 07:34
Ahhhh . . .I see I'm in good company . . . .:hugs: fellow zombies.

Lozie
06-03-2008, 08:11
Hi all sorry for no personals, I have to catch up. Just a quick one today to let you guys know i'm still alive so hard to jump on now, cant remember if i mentioned it but Dh lost his job the place closed down well for the last week and a bit i have been driving him around every day to find a job and now he has one woot! Balin is teething:( he's too little i will take a pic of it soon and post it it's like a little point on the side of his gum, well have to run children screaming will be back tommorow for a full update. Take care

westerner
06-03-2008, 09:22
Just wanted to say big big big :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: to all of the zombies..

Try and have a :sleeping: today.. Even if its just a 30min one..

:hugs:

perrywinkle
06-03-2008, 12:58
Thanks for all your :hugs: everyone.

We had a much better night last night. Woke every 1/2hr from 7pm till 9pm and all I could think about is this going to last all night!!!!

But she fell asleep at 9pm and went through till 1am then went back to bed with no dramas till 5am and then up again at 6.45am. So definately happier with that. I went to bed at 9.30pm myself!! Was so exhausted still tired today but not feeling loopy zombie any more LOL!!

sasa
06-03-2008, 13:59
Hey Everyone,

Man what a busy week! I have had something on every day and found it really hard to get online and do any more than have a quick read.

So sorry to hear that so many of you are having bad nights with the kids, I hope that whatever is in the water passes and things calm down for eveyrone.

I have a brief amount of time with both the girls down for there sleeps so have a million things to get done.

Ok so not much chance of remembering what I wanted to comment on specifically, Thanks for all your ring stories.. there is one ring that I saw a while ago and saved a picture of in my computer and I just keep coming back to it, I think we will get it made!

Sands We have a few little knotty dready things that keep coming back in the back of DD2's hair too... the baby oil is a really good idea I am going to give that a go.

Oh cant remember anything! Wil have to come back with some personals.

Getting ready this weekend for our trip away, so much to organise and pack but really looking forward to getting away.

Back soon xx

sasa
06-03-2008, 14:06
Not much help with the dreamfeeding here, I have never done it with either of my two and they have both slept through by the time they were about 12 weeks... although DD2 will wake occasionally she has been going to bed at 7 and waking at 5 a lot more often than not of late.

Madly I am thinking of falling pregnant agaion by the end of the year, I get very excited at the thought of it!

oh but yeah I also think I might have slightly lost my mind!

westerner
06-03-2008, 14:08
Madly I am thinking of falling pregnant agaion by the end of the year, I get very excited at the thought of it!


DP suggested the other day that we should start trying when the slab of our house goes down..
Thats in around 2months.. :eek: :smiliedance:

Im so excited but we will just wait and see how things are going.. :p

sasa
06-03-2008, 14:15
Thats great Goose! Very exciting... Do you get the feeling you might be a little mad too?

AliyahBlake
06-03-2008, 15:49
:laughing:Goose and Sasa - you're both mad!! Nah, just jokes!! Good on you for going for number 3. Personally, I won't be having anymore.....especially after the last couple of days I've had. Blake just won't sleep properly and Aliyah is being a little grump (understandably!). Why do they both have to be hard work at the same time????:hair: I just had to vacuum the house with Blake in his carry pouch as he won't go to sleep (bloody hard work lugging a 7kg+ kid around!!)- he fell asleep in the pouch but as soon as I put him in his cot he woke up and is now screaming. His mouth is giving him absolute curry and the Brauers isn't working as well this time so I've had to dose him with panadol. I hope a tooth comes out of all this!!!! To top it off, Craig got home from work and then went for a bike ride with one of his mates straight away!! Thanks honey:rolleyes:

A horrible thought just crossed my mind - I hope Blake's problem is just teething and not that he's caught chickenpox off Aliyah's shingles!

AliyahBlake
06-03-2008, 15:59
Grrrr, Craig just got home - he didn't end up riding his bike, he and his mate went and had a beer instead! :mad:

westerner
06-03-2008, 16:08
Do you get the feeling you might be a little mad too?
Yep sure do.. :laughing: :p

Buy hey why not.. ;)

Even if its not that soon im pretty sure i'll be preg before the end off the year if not very early next year..

The only thing that will delay it more than a few months is the fact that im BF exclusively.. So its more a matter of what my body decides to do once miss Kaitlyn is eating some solids n what not..

kaybee
06-03-2008, 16:15
Perrywinkle - glad things have improved slightly!

Sasa & goose - You definitely need your heads read!! :p A friend of mine who has 3 always says she should have stopped at 2, as you only have 2 arms!

AB - :fingerscrossed: it's not the Pox!
Men! Can't live with them.....pass the beernuts!

:cloud9:Ava was looking sooo cute this morning after her bath, so I had to take some photo's:

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z64/kaybee_75/Ava%20Feb%2008/PICT0302.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z64/kaybee_75/Ava%20Feb%2008/PICT0300.jpg

Unfortunately she isn't so cute now! :hair: She wont stop whinging and keeps taking her dummy out so she can suck her thumb, then cries for her dummy! Grrr

shymmer
06-03-2008, 17:00
Oh Kaybee - have to say: Ava is just devine! Squeaky clean and that beautiful smile!

I have a hard time catching Xav's smiles on camera. She will smile at me but when I put the camera in front of my face she wont b/c she can't see me!
And does anyone not have that many photo's with bub? I am always the one holding the camera . . . so I don't have many snapshots of us together. Dh on the otherhand has HEAPS - b/c I'm always taking them. If I want one of us I have to ask for it :mad:.

sasa
06-03-2008, 17:06
Aww Kaybee what a gorgeous girl! Such cute pics!

AB ohh I really really hope that its not Chicken pox for your little man, thinking of you guys, poor little Aliyah, does it look like it is getting better?

Vespera
06-03-2008, 17:39
And does anyone not have that many photo's with bub? I am always the one holding the camera .

I just looked through all our photos and yep there is only 2 of me with Connor and they were taken during the first breast feed in hospital! I always manage to take the most beautiful ones of DH and him but DH just never grabs the camera.

MrsScatterbrain
06-03-2008, 20:13
I have a hard time catching Xav's smiles on camera. She will smile at me but when I put the camera in front of my face she wont b/c she can't see me!
And does anyone not have that many photo's with bub? I am always the one holding the camera . . .

Shana - our camera has a screen, so you can hold it above or below your face to bubs can see your face! :thumbsup:

I definitely agree about the photo thing - I have barely any of Thomas and I! :( I always forget to ask DH, but remind myself to do that, or I won't have any memories later on!

:hugs: to RB, Kizmet and Shana and any other zombies out there! I hope your sleeps get longer soon!

Sasa and Kaybee - your girls are gorgeous! (Sasa, re: your new av!)

Goose, Sasa - you're mad! :D Although I do feel envious, I wish I could handle a third pregnancy and child, but I couldn't do it! :o Good luck with your TTC soon!

We're having night nappy problems at the moment - none of the leg holes fit properly on T's Sandmans and GNSTs, and I keep getting little yellow deposits on his woolies every morning! :hair: I hope it will change as he grows up!

Fingers crossed for lots of sleepy babies tonight!

sasa
06-03-2008, 21:23
Thanks Mrs S, I love your new Av too! How gorgeous!

I have been meaning to post a couple of pics might do that tomorrow..

Yeah no final decissions have been made here yet about when we will start TTC ect but I am sure we will know when the time is right...

Blake last day of work tomorrow then he has two weeks off! I am so excited to have him home it's goign to be great to have some relaxing family time.

Hope you all have a great nights sleep!

AliyahBlake
07-03-2008, 06:28
And does anyone not have that many photo's with bub? I am always the one holding the camera . . . so I don't have many snapshots of us together. Dh on the otherhand has HEAPS - b/c I'm always taking them. If I want one of us I have to ask for it :mad:.
I don't get that many photos with the kids either - for some reason I'm always the one taking them. Craig is in the shots quite alot!! I'll have to get him to take some nice ones of us soon, or Blake will think he didn't have a Mum when he was a baby!!:D



AB ohh I really really hope that its not Chicken pox for your little man, thinking of you guys, poor little Aliyah, does it look like it is getting better?
I'm hoping not, too - he is teething as he's been putting his hand up to his left cheek and ear since yesterday and really chewing like mad on his poor little hands. He seemed so unsettled yesterday. Last night, for the first time ever, he woke up at 9:30pm crying, so I gave him his feed early (so it wasn't really a dreamfeed!), then he woke again at 3am. Another first happened at that time - he grizzled for a bit and then resettled himself back to sleep!! I sat on the side of my bed thinking, "Will I let him go for a bit longer or will I just feed him?", and I was about to get up when he went silent. Then he wasn't awake til 4:30 for a feed and now he's still asleep.

Aliyah is slowly improving. Her blisters are starting to form crusts, so they're a little more itchy, but the lotion and phenergan is helping. She's bright as a button in the mornings, but come mid to late afternoon she's a grump (even with a nap). The rash doesn't hurt all the time, but she tells me when it's sore and I just give her panadol.

Last night, we started watching the latest episode of Underbelly we recorded (jeez that's a top show!!), and we'd been watching it for a while when I heard some rustling noises behind us. Aliyah was there sitting on the floor watching TV!! Her room is just next to the loungeroom so she was just sitting in her doorway. I don't know how long she'd been sitting there but it's definitely NOT a kids show!!She got in big trouble and was sent back to bed. Craig and I thought it was a little funny though, as we both had done the same thing as kids!

I got my new manual pump yesterday......sooooo much more comfortable than the electric one. I got letdown straight away last night and pumped 60mls without pain! I won it on Ebay for (get this!) $6.50 (plus $18 express post)!!! That's unreal for a new pump, and it's a good one too! :thumbsup:

Well, I hope today is a better day - will pop in again later on.

sandralee
07-03-2008, 09:50
Robbie is up that many times a night i cant even remember all i know is it seems like i shut my eyes and then he is awake again. When i woke this moring it felt like i hadnt slept at all

Oooh yeah - that was me for a few hours (I think it was a few hours LOL - felt like all night but it wasn't. Could have been less too :confused:.. since having Noah, I have looked at the clock so often. that it's easy to get confused! He kept losing his dummy... they definitely have their advantages for settling, but the downside is when they get lost! Or stuck under their head! He has put it back in occasionally...lol..just not at sleep time! xx


OMG. I am dead on my feet.
Xav has slept 3 x 20min naps since 1.30am! since 3pm yesterday, which doesn't sound too bad until you add in that all week I've had rotten /broken / unsatifying day sleeps. I'm lucky to get two hours together . . . hmmm, that describes the last 3 1/2mths actually :banghead:.
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EEK! xx

[quote=Lozie;2430552]Hi all sorry for no personals, I have to catch up. Just a quick one today to let you guys know i'm still alive so hard to jump on now, cant remember if i mentioned it but Dh lost his job the place closed down well for the last week and a bit i have been driving him around every day to find a job and now he has one woot!
Congrats for DH's job YAY! xx



:cloud9:Ava was looking sooo cute this morning after her bath, so I had to take some photo's:

GOrgeous pics!!


so I don't have many snapshots of us together. Dh on the otherhand has HEAPS - b/c I'm always taking them. If I want one of us I have to ask for it :mad:.
SAME HERE LOL!!! What gives?! xx

Guys I need some advice.. Having trouble joining Noah's catnaps together - it is a big effort! Sometimes a catnap is all he needs cs he wakes up happy. Other times he is all restless when I try to resettle him - I give him a dummy, he keeps his eyes mostly shut, but moves his head from side to side trying to get comfy, I leave the room after minimal intervention, sometimes it is the dummy coming out that disturbs him somtimes not. If I hear him make a sound after the first catnap, am I better off going in to his room early and trying to resettle, so he desn't fully wake up.. or do I only go in when he sounds cranky and distressed?? Thank you heaps!xxxxxxxx

kaybee
07-03-2008, 09:53
AB - Underbelly is tops isn't it! We're loving it. What a bargain with the Pump. Go Ebay!

Thanks Guys, she is soo cute! But we are biased! We keep saying; lucky she's so damn cute, otherwise we would have given her back by now!

There are hardly any photo's of me and bub either! My facebook picture is one of the only one's we have.

What drugs can you take while BF?? Is it the same as pregnancy and only Panadol is ok? I have a severe headache which is heading into migraine territory, starting to feel nauseous. Some Mersyndol Day would make it possible to function, but is codiene okay? What about Aspirin? Panadol is not doing anything.

westerner
07-03-2008, 10:02
ooh not 110% sure kaybee..

Just give your local chemist a quick call and they can have a look in there BF book and let you know.. :thumbsup:
Hope you find out you can take something and you feel better soon..

Well i feel like poo..
Poor Jacob woke up at 3:30am and threw up in his bed..
After stripping the bed and re making iot i gave him some pnadol as he was burning up and we sat on the couch watching sienfeild and cuddling..
Poor little guy..

He went back to sleep at 5:30 and is still sleeping now.. So is DP (who got up t sat with us bless him :hugs:) and miss Kaitlyn has been up and is now back to sleep..

So the house is all quiet and im enjoying my coffee.. God knows i need it.. :p

I hope it was just a fever which made him throw up and nothing more serious.. He seems ok since the panadol..

Hope Aliyah stops itching soon and little Blake doesnt catch it hun.. :hugs:

Big :party: HAPPY BIRTHDAY :party: to Abigail Kizmets little one who is 2 today..

Roxy76
07-03-2008, 10:22
AB - Underbelly is tops isn't it! We're loving it. What a bargain with the Pump. Go Ebay!

Thanks Guys, she is soo cute! But we are biased! We keep saying; lucky she's so damn cute, otherwise we would have given her back by now!

There are hardly any photo's of me and bub either! My facebook picture is one of the only one's we have.

What drugs can you take while BF?? Is it the same as pregnancy and only Panadol is ok? I have a severe headache which is heading into migraine territory, starting to feel nauseous. Some Mersyndol Day would make it possible to function, but is codiene okay? What about Aspirin? Panadol is not doing anything.

i was told panadeine is ok. i took it when had bad toothache!

westerner
07-03-2008, 10:27
i was told panadeine is ok. i took it when had bad toothache!

oooh silly me..
I was given panadiene forte (which is pretty strong) last week when i had mastitis.. So that is fine while BF also..

krixly
07-03-2008, 10:29
What drugs can you take while BF?? Is it the same as pregnancy and only Panadol is ok? I have a severe headache which is heading into migraine territory, starting to feel nauseous. Some Mersyndol Day would make it possible to function, but is codiene okay? What about Aspirin? Panadol is not doing anything.

I am not 100% sure on the drugs, however I had a c-section with Nehemiah (and was BF) and the doctor prescribed panadeine forte or panadeine for the pain, and both have codeine in them. Not sure if this helps. Oh and by the way, your bubba is BEAUTIFUL!!

AB - :hugs: to you and your sick and irritable bubbas. I hope Blake is just teething and not sick too!

I am in a minimal amount of photos too girls! The only ones I am really in are the ones i have taken myself of me and nehemiah (you know how you turn the camera around). DH just doesn't think about taking photos.

Sandralee & Goose - :sleeping: vibes for your bubs!!! Hope things settle down soon.

Well ladies, Nehemiah is doing really well. I feel bad that he is being so good and yet a lot of you are having probs with sleeping etc. He is still catnapping during the day, but is going to bed around 6.30-7pm and not waking until 5.30am!! :smiliedance: He has been doing this now for about 3 weeks with very rare unsettled times during the night when I just pat him back to sleep.

He had needles on Monday and was a bit sensitive on Monday and Tuesday and just wanted to be held. He is also teething and today has been a bit irritable with that. He isn't screaming or anything, just being grumpy and not wanting me to put him down or leave his sight. Had to give in this morning and finally give him panadol AND bonjella coz he just couldn't get to sleep. He is asleep now though so I have about 33 mins left until he wakes!!

I am excited coz tomorrow I am going to a high tea in the afternoon with some girlfriends and DH is going to take nehemiah for the afternoon. I am a little nervous coz he has never had him longer than 2 hours at a time and usually gets a bit stressed. I figure it will do him good!!! :D

Well ladies, enjoy your day!

sniper wolf
07-03-2008, 10:42
And does anyone not have that many photo's with bub? I am always the one holding the camera . . . so I don't have many snapshots of us together. Dh on the otherhand has HEAPS - b/c I'm always taking them. If I want one of us I have to ask for it :mad:.

i hear ya on this one!

AliyahBlake
07-03-2008, 10:47
Kaybee - the recommendation with BF is that you shouldn't take anything besides panadol off your own bat. Definitely no aspirin!! In saying that, if you get advice from a chemist first then you can usually take panadeine or nurofen, but not for longer than 48 hours - if you need to take that stuff longer than that or get something stronger you need to see a GP. You have to be careful as even though it's only in small amounts, the drugs can still get through your milk into bub and cause allergic reactions if they are hypersensitive to it.

OMG I have a love affair with Aldi almost as strong as my love for Ebay! I just bought some Heinz Gold formula for $6 cheaper than you can get it at Woolies!!!:smiliedance: Also bought up big on Farex as they have it on special too. Love it!!!

shymmer
07-03-2008, 12:55
Kaybee: not sure on the med you mentioned but after my c-sec (while BF) I was taking panadol and Ibuprofen (nurofen) and they also gave me one called Trimadol (or something??). I know - Panadol is useless. Nurofen Plus might help?

Well Xav wouldn't sleep longer than 20mins last night again, until 3.30am when I let her sleep on me instead of putting her down and she had 2.5hrs. She's very clingy atm. I don't think she's teething, I can't see/feel anything. But she is chewing/sucking furiously on her hands, but that's just normal baby stuff right?

So, bad news is I haven't been to sleep since 4pm yesterday . . . . :(. But good news is, Xav is still awake (as apposed to having her big sleep all day) and in a relatively good mood, as she must be pretty tired.

I just hope to high heaven that she goes to sleep tonight and I don't have an excruciatingly overtired baby on my hands that can't switch off!!!!

NB: not contradicting you at all AB - Just wanted to say I took Nurofen for about 10 days after the c-sec while BF. Doctors (middies) instructions were to take it as long as needed. But no more than recommended amount in 24hr period and all that.

melbryan
07-03-2008, 19:33
Sorry it's been a while I think I had to catch up on about 7 pages. Oh well done now,
Cute pics Kaybee she's a real sweetie.
Sasa and Goose yep I reckon you're mad too, just as mad as me I still want one more. I'll be happy with 4 boys.

AB I saw Aliyah's pics they look saw and it is making me itchy just talking about it. She soounds like she is a little trooper though. Higs to your family.

No not many pics of me and bubs but if I have one that is OK as I hate pics of myself.

DS2 is cutting another 4 teeth last week he cut two molars so more sleepless nights here. Ashton is till a very good baby he wakes once during the night I give him a bottle and he sleeps to around 7-7.30am.
Took them all to the shops last week for hair cuts it was quite traumatic all running off in different directions. I got a few comments oh you've got your hands full, (Yep I know!!!!!). I wouldn't have it any other way we get lots of hugs and cuddles from our boys and we love them dearly but I am tipping their girlfriends aren't goign to want to take them shopping when they grow up, just like DH.
Mum is looking after all 3 next sat night I am off to Jack Johnson, Yay I need a night out.

AliyahBlake
07-03-2008, 20:35
Well Xav wouldn't sleep longer than 20mins last night again, until 3.30am when I let her sleep on me instead of putting her down and she had 2.5hrs. She's very clingy atm. I don't think she's teething, I can't see/feel anything. But she is chewing/sucking furiously on her hands, but that's just normal baby stuff right?

NB: not contradicting you at all AB - Just wanted to say I took Nurofen for about 10 days after the c-sec while BF. Doctors (middies) instructions were to take it as long as needed. But no more than recommended amount in 24hr period and all that.
Yeah, Shana, hand sucking is a normal thing with bubs, but if Xav is unsettled and chewing as well it could be the start of teething. She might not necessarily have any teeth showing under the gums yet, but she could still be in the early stages. I know Aliyah started teething at 3 months and didn't get a tooth til 5 months! Blake's teeth are going up and down and have been for about 6 weeks now.

That's cool, you haven't contradicted me! You took Nurofen under a doctor's instruction, which is fine :thumbsup:. I just meant that you're not supposed to take any over the counter preparation for longer than 48hrs without seeing a doctor, and that's whether you're BF or not.

Nan
07-03-2008, 21:04
I'm baaaaack!! heehee
Far out! I've been out and about all week and this is the first moment I've had an hour or so to catch up on the thread and write something!! I missed you guys!!

I have a question, though - do you think I could start the day with a 3 hour feed (to fit in with DS1's routine), then continue with 3.5/4 hourly feeds for the rest of the day? (Or would the initial 3 hour feed set his clock from then on?) Hmmm - I don't want to get caught short if he wants to be fed 3 hours for the second cycle as we're always out!
He should be fine. 3-3.5 hours isn't a huge change. Caleb doesn't really notice if I'm late and he gets fed after 3.5 hours. He notices 4 though, so I'm thinking he's not quite ready to go to 4 yet. I reckon give it a try.

Hi ladies, sorry for the lack of personals. Have had a really rough couple of nights here.
:hugs: for you RB. The nightmares must be tough to deal with.

Dh lost his job the place closed down well for the last week and a bit i have been driving him around every day to find a job and now he has one woot!
WOOHOO! That's such great news. I hope it turns out to be a good job for him.

Madly I am thinking of falling pregnant agaion by the end of the year, I get very excited at the thought of it!

DP suggested the other day that we should start trying when the slab of our house goes down..
Good luck with the TTC girls......even if its not for a while! I still can't decide whether to go again or not. Even though I've had brilliant babies, I don't consider myself to be all that great a 'Suzy home maker'. I love my kids HEAPS but I don't know if I love being a mum. I like it, but it doesn't fulfill me like teaching does. Having said that, I'm still going to be a SAHM for a few more years as I want my quality time with my babies.

And does anyone not have that many photo's with bub? I am always the one holding the camera . . . so I don't have many snapshots of us together. Dh on the otherhand has HEAPS - b/c I'm always taking them. If I want one of us I have to ask for it.
Its the opposite for us. Shane takes the pics as he loves portrait photography. I do still have to make sure he gets some with me in them though.

Another first happened at that time - he grizzled for a bit and then resettled himself back to sleep!! I sat on the side of my bed thinking, "Will I let him go for a bit longer or will I just feed him?", and I was about to get up when he went silent.
Aliyah is slowly improving. Her blisters are starting to form crusts, so they're a little more itchy, but the lotion and phenergan is helping.
Yeah, I always used to (he's sleeping through 100% now!) give Caleb a bit more time in the night as I found that 80% of the time he'd go back to sleep. Glad to hear Aliyah is feeling a little better now. That pump you got is a bargain. Well done!

If I hear him make a sound after the first catnap, am I better off going in to his room early and trying to resettle, so he desn't fully wake up.. or do I only go in when he sounds cranky and distressed?? Thank you heaps!xxxxxxxx
Definitely when he sounds cranky and distressed. Give him maximum time to try and teach himself to self-settle before you go in and help him if he needs it. The sooner you go in the longer it will take him to learn. Re: the cricket comment. Do you want me to come over there and whack you with my cricket bat?! :laughing: Too many good looking guys to be boring!! lol

OMG I have a love affair with Aldi almost as strong as my love for Ebay! I just bought some Heinz Gold formula for $6 cheaper than you can get it at Woolies!!! Also bought up big on Farex as they have it on special too. Love it!!!
I WISH we had an Aldi in Adelaide. I love it too. I only get in there when visiting my SIL in Canberra. Their nappies are dirt cheap and really good. Not once had a leak and comfy for little botts too. Give them a try if you haven't.

kaybee - Gorgeous photos. Such a cutie you have there. Love those after bath shots.

Perrywinkle - How are things with you now after your horror night? Hopefully settling down a bit. :hugs:

mel - I think 4 boys sounds wonderful.

I can't believe we're up to 4 month needles already! Caleb still has 3 weeks until his. I weighed him today and he is 6.86kg (15lbs) and is 63cms long. Didn't do his head circ yet, but its probably going great guns like the rest of him. He still wears some 000 tops and shorts but is in 00 suits.....not for long though as these sizes are starting to get snuggly!! I wish he'd slow down!! :(
He is sleeping through 100% of the time now, I'm so blessed. He goes down at 8pm and sleeps until 7am. He has started to drop his dream feed the last couple of nights. He's not had much at all. So, I'll see how he goes this week and if its more of the same, I'll drop it. I'm so proud of him. He's doing so well. He is having 3 day sleeps, around an hour in the morning 2-3 mid day or early afternoon and an hour (ish) pm. Today he was a bit of a pain and didn't sleep at all in the afternoon. We had 45 mins of me trying to settle him, which NEVER happens. :confused: So, I got him up and he was happy as larry until bed time. Weird! Although, it may have been the heat.
Well, its extremely hot over here. Been over 35 degrees for the last 5 days and no end in sight for at least another 6, so the forecast says. Thank God for air con......seriously......I'd be dead without it. :dizzy: We have a long weekend, so I'm happy to have Shane home for an extra day. Always helpful. *nods*
Ok.....enough blah from me. Enjoy your weekend everyone.

AliyahBlake
08-03-2008, 07:13
I WISH we had an Aldi in Adelaide. I love it too. I only get in there when visiting my SIL in Canberra. Their nappies are dirt cheap and really good. Not once had a leak and comfy for little botts too. Give them a try if you haven't.

He is sleeping through 100% of the time now, I'm so blessed. He goes down at 8pm and sleeps until 7am. He has started to drop his dream feed the last couple of nights. He's not had much at all. So, I'll see how he goes this week and if its more of the same, I'll drop it.


Hey, Nan!! Good to see you back!!

Oh yes, don't get me started on Aldi nappies!! I could write pages on how good they are. I started using them with Aliyah as I had problems with Huggies and Snugglers leaking all the time, and decided to use them for Blake, and they truly are fabulous. I can't believe how much wee they hold - terrific for night time!

Caleb is doing so well with his sleeping :thumbsup: Blake's up and down with his. He'll have a few good nights where he'll sleep through til 5am-ish, then he'll throw a spanner in the works for a couple of nights and wake at 2 or 3am. At least I know he's not a habitual waker, it's usually hunger or cold (we've had warm days but it gets quite cool during the night here). I'm thinking about dropping the dreamfeed soon too, as Blake's only having a quick feed, and gets quite stroppy if I wake him up too much (I try not too but sometimes it's tricky!).

Well, I'm off to Aldi again this morning to see if there's any more baby stuff left - they are selling baby memoir books for $8 in pink and blue, so I'm going to grab some to use as baby gifts, as we have a few pregnant friends at the moment. I might also grab some more formula and farex - stock up the pantry on the specials as I probably won't get them that cheap again. I didn't get heaps yesterday as I only had the pram with me so couldn't fit everything in!

tally
08-03-2008, 08:28
Dropping into say hi... I'v just e been flat out and so tired... I got back from my parents house last night after a 7hr road trip on my own with the 4 kids.. and Rylan screaming for a great deal of the way. Hes been a horror for the last couple of weeks and I'm probably managing about 3hrs sleep a night.. :(

I'm not sure where the convo about pain medications come from, I havent read back far enough sorry.. But you really shouldnt take anything stronger than Panadol whilst breastfeeding, unless under strict medical direction, its not safe for the little ones. I suppose it comes down to personal choice, but I wouldnt take anything stronger than panadol myself.

With feeding, I've noticed Rylan is starting to stretch his feeds out more, which is great... I dont feel like hes attached to me quite so much, other than he seems to need to be in my arms during his every waking moment. :confused:

Gotta go, on the laptop and I hate it.. lol

take care everyone..

perrywinkle
08-03-2008, 09:06
Thanks for asking Nan!!

We are still unwell here. Last night I put the vapouriser on in her room but because it was a hot night she was so sweaty from the humidity in her room and the heat. She woke at midnight for a feed then at 2am 3am 4am and slept till 7am! I'm not feeding every wake time she just wont put her self back to sleep so have to hold her until she's semi asleep and put her back into her cot. So yeah it's been about a week now of little sleep.

If she's not back to normal by early next week will be going back to the doctors I think.

We have a long weekend here this weekend and DS is going to his Nanny's house for a sleep over tonight so I can get some study done. Couldn't really get a lot done with a sick child. And I'm getting the whip out with DH so he can get lots of jobs done around the house while he has 2 days off work. LOL!!

Have a nice day everyone!

AliyahBlake
08-03-2008, 09:56
Well, I haven't been down to Aldi yet as things have fallen apart at the seams here! Blake has been very cranky and screaming most of the morning. Craig got him out of bed at 6:45 this morning while I was sleeping in - usually I go in and resettle him if he wakes this early as otherwise he's cranky all day. But no, Craig thought he'd get him up as he was happy. Well, Blake's feed wasn't due for at least an hour, so I ended up having to feed him 30 mins early as he was getting tired and grizzly. So instead of the usual feed, play, sleep it's been play, feed, sleep and this has just thrown routine out the window for the day! Teething isn't helping either. But it's ok for Craig as he's gone out for the day, leaving me with a cranky baby, and a little girl who is feeling much better but is deciding to be very cheeky and push the boundaries big time!! She's already been banned from the loungeroom today as she was jumping on the lounge while we weren't in the room and fell off :hair:
Another thing - I have no car because Craig is out for the day, so I can't take the kids to the park. I might have to grab the pram and go for a walk with them I think. Blake has been in bed now 15 mins and has woken up crying again........oh I think this will be a great day (she says, dripping with sarcasm!!). Big glass of wine for Nicole tonight!!!!!

ETA - Oh, marvellous!! My day is getting better and better.........the pram is still in the back of the car, so I can't take the kids out now either!!! :rolleyes:

MrsScatterbrain
08-03-2008, 10:19
Hi everyone,

DH has taken DS1 to the park, bless him, so I have a little peace! :thumbsup: Gosh, 2 year olds are so full on, I don't think I'd survive without a little time out here and there ....



Well Xav wouldn't sleep longer than 20mins last night again, until 3.30am when I let her sleep on me instead of putting her down and she had 2.5hrs.

:hugs: That sounds incredibly hard, I really feel for you. Do you get a chance to catch up on sleep during the day?



I still can't decide whether to go again or not. Even though I've had brilliant babies, I don't consider myself to be all that great a 'Suzy home maker'. I love my kids HEAPS but I don't know if I love being a mum. I like it, but it doesn't fulfill me like teaching does. Having said that, I'm still going to be a SAHM for a few more years as I want my quality time with my babies.

Nan - I couldn't have said it better myself! I agree totally with the above!

Thanks on the advice re: T's sleeping - Caleb's sleeping is going wonderfully! How did you know when he was ready to miss his dreamfeed? (I usually pick up Thomas for his, rather than waiting for him - is that how it normally works?)

Thomas is having a dreamfeed at around 9.30pm, then a feed between 2am and 4am, so I'm pretty happy with his sleeping, but would love to ditch the 2 am feed!


Hes been a horror for the last couple of weeks and I'm probably managing about 3hrs sleep a night.. :(

:hugs: I hope you get a lot more sleep very soon. :fingerscrossed:


TAnd I'm getting the whip out with DH so he can get lots of jobs done around the house while he has 2 days off work. LOL!!
Hear, hear! Get that man into action!!
Hope Alice feels better soon.

I tried the nurses' routine suggestion yesterday (letting Thomas sleep in, in the morning and start the day when he does) and it was pure disaster! :laughing: None of us knew what we were doing! Thomas barely slept, Ben had no idea what was coming next, and neither did I! Never, never again! Lol! I think Thomas was quite indignant at being left to sleep in and missing out on the action!

Well, the boys are back and DS1 has a sizeable graze on his knee so its bandaid and Savlon time for me!

AliyahBlake
09-03-2008, 08:09
Wow! Everyone must be having very busy weekends! I know I am!

Blake has been shocking with his teething, poor thing. I bought some teething gel yesterday as he's close enough to 4 months now, and it's been helping alot. It looks like there's about 3 teeth trying to break the surface at the moment - big red lumps on his gums :( He's also got the teething poos and nappy rash back. We had a really unsettled day yesterday, so I was glad to see Craig when he got home at about 5pm. I was then able to duck off to the supermarket to grab a few things after putting Blake to bed. I tried dropping the dreamfeed last night, simply because I was exhausted and wanted an early night, but Blake woke at 11pm!:doh:

Aliyah's shingles are looking so much better - I'll be able to send her to preschool on Tuesday. I'll see how she goes and we might even go to the birthday party she's been invited to tomorrow.

Anyway, have a good day everyone - I hope it doesn't get too hot for you Adelaide girls!!

perrywinkle
09-03-2008, 08:39
It's going to be a stinker today!!

Had another bad night again. Nearly two weeks of this and I'm going to mad the way it's going. She was up every 2hrs again as usual like all the other nights. I don't feed her on the every 2hr wake up she just wants me to pick her up and she falls back asleep in my arms pretty much straight away. And then after that wake up I feed her so every 4hrs I'm feeding but she wont sleep longer than 2hrs.

Anybody got any suggestions?

She's still a little blocked up I have raised her cot matteress and used the vapouriser once but the nights here are so hot her room gets way too hot for my liking. Have been using Nasal drops too and vicks.

AB - Glad Aliyah is feeling better. What a tough week you have had.

shymmer
09-03-2008, 09:01
Morning ladies,

AB and PW - you are both having tough times. Very gald to hear Aliyah is getting better Nicole, she must be so much happier. Poor little Blake. Does the pain stop once the teeth have broken the gum surface?
PW, you must be pretty tired. It's intersting hearing from those of you who are up every few hours and how it drives you mad . . . not glad that you are experiencing it of course, but it makes me feel normal that I sometimes get to the point when I am about to scream b/c I have been getting up on average every 3hrs overnight since Xav was born. I feel like I should be able to handle that and am very hard on myself if I struggle to maintain patience when I am so tired.
So it's kinda nice to know that it would drive anyone insane, and it's not just me. (not implying you are insane PW!!:laughing:)

I don't know how to stetch out her overnight sleeping. She doesn't 'get up' overnight, just has a bottle in bed, I burp her and she goes straight back to sleep. We have gotten back to night sleeping too thank god. Last night she went down at 4pm, bit early but ok. Had a feed at 7.30pm and stirred at 10pm, so I made her a bottle but she was back to sleep by the time I went to her . . .and she slept until 1am! 5hrs straight is such a rarity! Was up for a bit then and back to bed at about 3.00am.

Anyway - she's been asleep for 2hrs now, from 7am to 9am, so I'm going to wake her up! I am not interested in the letting the whole switch-a-roo of day/night happen again in a hurry!

westerner
09-03-2008, 09:46
Prob a good idea to start letting her stir and wriggle for 5mins at night shana.. See if she will do more often what she did last night and self settle..
Which is the first step in her sleeping through more often if she ia capable of putting her self back to sleep after a sleep cycle..

Obviously if she starts screaming then feed her but if is just wriggling, moaning, groaning etc just wait a few minutes and see what happens..

She might not put her self back to sleep every time but will soon figure it out..

Even though Kaitlyn sleeps through till 5am i hear her maybe two times moan and groan and stretch and if on the ball 'could' assume she was waking and grab her and feed her.. But she isnt actually waking.. Just stretching and finding a comfy position to continue sleeping in, just like we do..

Kaitlyn will even sometimes open her eyes, look around for 30 secs then close them and drift off to sleep again..

You never know she might surprise you and start stretching out the time between feeds if you give her a chance..
May not too but hey, its worth a try isnt it..

shymmer
10-03-2008, 07:01
Hi all,

Thanks for that Goose. She did the same thing last night . . went back to sleep before I got to her with the bottle (silly me). So I will definately stay in bed a bit longer tonight!!!

I have a quick question . . it is becoming progressively harder to get a burp out of Xav sometimes now. Do you all still burp baby?? I feel like I have to b/c if I don't sometimes she will get upset/wake after 20mins b/c she has to burp.

krixly
10-03-2008, 07:37
I have a quick question . . it is becoming progressively harder to get a burp out of Xav sometimes now. Do you all still burp baby?? I feel like I have to b/c if I don't sometimes she will get upset/wake after 20mins b/c she has to burp.

Hi Shana - I have found that Nehemiah doesn't need to burp as often now. Maybe it is something to do with their little bellies maturing or something. Maybe it is just a coincidence!!!

Well ladies, I spoke to soon a few days ago when I said how good Nehemiah had been with sleeping. I have realised that this week has been a wonder week which is why he has been so clingy and upset during the day. He is now ROLLING both ways every time I put him down!!! :smiliedance: This is great for him, but it has also being quite disruptive to his sleep. He has been rolling in his sleep during the night and getting onto his tummy and waking up crying and distressed. The last 3 nights this has been happening and I just get up flip him back over onto his back and he generally settles ok, but then not 30 mins later it happens again. Very tiring!! Last night I had had enough at 3am and just brought him into bed with me. It is also affecting his daytime sleeps as he keeps rolling when he is trying to settle, and he gets so overtired that I am having to pick him up a lot of the time now, when he had been settling himself. I have tried a sleep positioner, but he just wriggles out of it OR cries because he can't roll. :hair: I am not sure if there is anything I can do. I know I have read somewhere that often when babies are learning new skills they 'practice' them in their sleep. I am guessing this is just a phase, but hoping that it won't last too long!!!!

Anyway, I have now officially started Nehemiah on solids and he LOVES them! I just give him 'breakfast' but he is so happy and keeps looking for more. Have only given him farex and apple so far. It is great, though I need to drop my need for things to be clean coz it is SO messy!!! :laughing: He is almost 4.5 months, and when I took him to the GP we talked about the behaviours he was showing and she suggested that I try him. He is also 8.4kg!!!

Sorry haven't done many personals. Hope you are all doing ok with your little bubbas. Have a nice day :sunshine:

MrsScatterbrain
10-03-2008, 07:56
. . it is becoming progressively harder to get a burp out of Xav sometimes now. Do you all still burp baby?? I feel like I have to b/c if I don't sometimes she will get upset/wake after 20mins b/c she has to burp.

Hi Shana - I still burp Thomas as he gets a bit chucky otherwise! :laughing: I usually just let him stand up and have a jump on my lap, and that does the job, otherwise, I stand up and do a little jiggle and pat him at the same time, and that usually works ... although, sometimes with a little wet present on my shoulder!! :laughing:

Having said that, there was a stage with DS1 where I just stopped burping, but I can't remember when .. (he wasn't as chucky as Thomas, though ;)).


He is now ROLLING both ways every time I put him down!!! :smiliedance: This is great for him, but it has also being quite disruptive to his sleep.

When they roll in their sleep I think it is just a developmental stage where they try to get comfy to go to sleep like we do. I suppose with anything there is a period of practicing to get it right! If you're still tearing your hair out after a couple of weeks, there is a product called Safe-T-Sleep (or something along those lines) which keeps bubs in one spot in the bed (and on their backs, I think). I have a friend who swears by hers!

I think we are just going to lay low today - another hottie! (Although you guys in SA have it much worse than us!)

AliyahBlake
10-03-2008, 10:53
Hi girls, just a quick one as Blake will probably be awake anytime now!

:cloud9:Today marks 6 years of wedded bliss for Craig and I! Time flies!! Unfortunately we are not doing the usual splurge on a really expensive dinner (last year's effort was at Matt Moran's Aria Restaurant in Sydney) as we haven't got the money with me being on maternity leave and the ever-increasing interest rates:thumbsdown:, so I will cook a very special roast lamb dinner to have tonight. I thought we might send the kids to bed then maybe have a little candlelight dinner for two:D We have decided that later on after I go back to work, we will get some nice family portraits done of the four of us as our belated anniversary gift.

Blake slept well last night (til 5:15am) but Aliyah's still having sleep issues. I don't think it's related to the shingles anymore, as she's just waking for silly things like wanting me to pull up her blanket or close her window, which are things she has done herself in the past.

Well, I have some cleaning up to do - the house is a pigsty. Will log on again later to see what's happening.

tally
10-03-2008, 11:33
Happy Anniversary AB.. Enjoy your dinner tonight.

I'm still burping Rylan, I find if we dont his reflux is horrific... though its only really done with him upright on my chest so theres pressure on his tummy and gentle pats on his back.

Hes rolling all over the place now and keeps going off his mat and smacking his head on the tiles..

Its pretty hot here, tho its beautiful inside with the air con on. Yesterday we took the kids into the aquatic centre and Rylan had his first official swim, hes been in the pool before but didnt reallly like it.. this time he went under and came up smiling... and carried on when it was time to come out. to cute.

No solids here, having Zade with severe allergies I'm putting it off as long as I can, hes only just starting to show an interest in food so we've got awhile yet..

I reckon in the next few weeks we should be able to start using the Jolly Jumper.. his necks pretty strong... and he can almost get up into the crawling position so I would think the JJ is going to be ok.

Have a great day everyone... stay cool..

Rainbowbrite
10-03-2008, 16:15
Happy Anniversary AB :hugs:

We've got a roller here too, why I bother putting him on the mat I have no idea :rolleyes:

Sorry about the lack of posting again, had a huge few days. DH was off work on friday so we had a big day out, Saturday I drove 90mins each way with the kids so MJ could go to her "boyfriend Harry's" 3rd birthday (Allyoo's son) :laughing: & sunday was our normal Market hunt day.

Ani is good, getting bigger by the day (must get him weighed!!) & as happy as ever. Had a few bad nights, then back to waking at 4.45 for a feed & then back off till between 7 & 8. Last night was a wakeful one again. Still having day sleep issues, but I can live with that. He is looking lovingly at our food but i'm a mean mummy that will make him wait till after 6 months. The boob is obviously enough for now with how happy & healthy he is.

I have been thinking of getting a jolly jumper but just not sure.....never had one with MJ & to be honest I worry about putting him in things like that :o

Hope everyone else is well :hugs: to you all

AliyahBlake
10-03-2008, 16:28
Happy Anniversary AB.. Enjoy your dinner tonight.

Thanks Tally!



Happy Anniversary AB :hugs:
Still having day sleep issues, but I can live with that. He is looking lovingly at our food but i'm a mean mummy that will make him wait till after 6 months. The boob is obviously enough for now with how happy & healthy he is.
I have been thinking of getting a jolly jumper but just not sure.....never had one with MJ & to be honest I worry about putting him in things like that :o

Thanks RB!
Blake has day sleep issues too - he's definitely not as good a sleeper as Aliyah was. The night's are getting better though, so the little daytime catnaps don't worry me too much.
I can't say I'm a fan of the jolly jumpers - don't know why, I just never thought it necessary to get one. But that's just me!:D
Anyway Blake's up so I'm off!!

tally
10-03-2008, 16:29
RB I've used the JJ with all my boys and had no issues, I think as long as they arent left in too long or put in them too early they are fine. I really only left my boys in it for 5 mins at a time.

Apparently they say from 3mths but I dont think they're strong enough at that stage and is probably more likely when you'll do damage.

Its a personal choice.. but my kids loved it.

Rainbowbrite
10-03-2008, 17:16
Thanks for that Tally. I tried a friends with MJ & she hated it so I never got one. My sister swore by it with her boys though.........

tally
10-03-2008, 17:32
lol rb.. I was just coming back to suggest seeing if you could try someone elses first.

You could try mine but you're a tad too far away :D

perrywinkle
10-03-2008, 20:05
Hello Everyone,

Been very busy with study. Just popping in to say hello and to let you all know that we are still not sleeping very well at night. Last night she woke only twice which is great compared to what we've experienced.

Went to a friends house this afternoon to cool off in her pool and here's miss Ali. She's such a water baby!!

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So hopefully she will sleep well tonight.

Happy Anniversary AB.

We are a bit slack in the rolling department. She rolled today but scared herself on the flip side so that wasn't fun!!

We started using the JJ about 3 weeks ago. She's in it for about 10mins max with her feet touching the ground so she can move around.

Tally - glad Rylan loved the swim this time.

sandralee
10-03-2008, 20:18
:cloud9:Today marks 6 years of wedded bliss for Craig and I! Time flies!!
Aliyah's still having sleep issues. I don't think it's related to the shingles anymore, as she's just waking for silly things like wanting me to pull up her blanket or close her window, which are things she has done herself in the past.
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Happy Anniversary AB!! :flowerz: Sounds like Aliyah is really trying to connect with you in any way possible - she still may not be used to 'sharing' you yet! Lamb roast sounds yummy & I hope your little sprogs sleep really well for you tonight so you guys can enjoy some time together. Gosh, our anniversary was on the 3/3, & the highlight of my night was having a conversation with Steve for an hour LOL! We hardly get much time to chat these days.. let alone anything else. <wink>
Well I have been quiet on BUBHUB again - my dad came back down on saturday & only left this arvo - since Noah was born we seem to have attracted my family members for long periods of time.. they are very helpful, but the downside is that I don't get any time to myself AT ALL! In between the few catnaps that my little man has each day, I am lucky to do washing & some other basic things.. Seems to be conflicting advice with baby whisperers! Re catnaps, one says to try to join two sleep cyles together.. while the other says to get them out of bed if they don't want to sleep. Downside to catnapping is the number of times you do a 'sleepytime routine in one day LOL - hello! another groundhog day moment!
I have so much stuff to do (and stuff that I would LIKE to do, like finishing redecorating the house!) yet I am keen to start some kind of 'baby group' to keep Noah entertained & to get him mingling with other babies. Did one of you suggest calling the council to find out what's available?
Nan you can hit me with your cricket bat all you like LOL. it might get rid of my baby brain once and for all! Woohoo! Hehe, I have never even noticed whether or not the cricketers are goodlooking, cos the very sound of the commentators voices lulls me to sleep every time.. I whinge a lot when cricket is plastered all over the telly. :D
Our Bebepod Plus arrived today, so cute but cracks me up seeing Noah sitting in it! Sometimes he looks like he is going to topple over to the side. ALso had him in the highchair for a while when I was getting dinner organised, and wheeled him around on the tiles.. he looks so small in it! WIll have to post a pic, we ended up buying the Chicco Polly.
Ta for the advice Nan re resettling - I was running in too soon, with the hopes of sticking his dummy back in before he woke properly.. but um, it only worked once. What does everyone do with their bubs who squawk for their dummy when they lose them? Or just decide they want them in the middle of the night?! Some nights are great, but others I can easily get up and down like a yoyo - I would have much more sleep without them in the house, but they have their plus side for comforting! It's making me delay moving Noah to his nursery for night sleeps, cos I would have further to walk. ANyone else annoyed by dummies through the night?
Drove to browns plains yest, a 30min car journey, to the baby superstore - haven't been there with Noah since he had his melt down a couple of months ago at the shopping centre LOL.. it was a very pleasant trip yay! ANd I am not scared of driving long distances with him anymore. At that baby shop, every dollar you spend there gets converted to Baby Bucks, & you clock up money to spend in the shop. After only buying a few products we somehow had $150 to spend, which was great fun. Before that, on another visit, we had a few hundred dollars to spend, so it doesn't take long to add up. I forgot about them, and took money out to pay for what I had picked out, when I was told how much we had accumulated.
Off to sterilise bottles (just for something different) & brush my teeth. Finally found my facebook username and password, which I had written down on the back of a business card LOL, so will have to pop some pics up and get used to navigating my way around!
Really feel like visiting my in-laws in bris more often now that Noah has proven himself to be okay in the car for long periods.. our boy baby is growing up so quickly and I don't want them to miss out. My brother has yet to meet him, as he is in new zealand for now - hopefully in the next month or two he will come over for another visit.
Sasa I hope you get gorgeous days of sunshine while you are on hols, and no wind! We seemed to lack a lot of sunny days this summer, mostly cloudy or windy, which seems unlike qld.
I bought a woolen underlay for Noahs cot on saturday so it's nice and soft to sleep on once we remove the snuggle bed.. it is breathable apparently. Was made for a single bed, normally $90 but reduced to $20! Had never been opened and wasn't damaged, so have no clue why it was reduced lol. Will pop it on tomorrow and see what it feels like under his sheet. He loves to snuggle so I want to make sure it's soft and comfy, but still 'safe' for him to sleep on.
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tally
10-03-2008, 20:36
Perrywinkle.. shes so cute lol.. I cant wait to see her again on Friday..

I forgot the camera yesterday (like normal) so we didnt get any shots..

heres some I took today... Rylans showing off his new mcn's that I designed and mum sewed up for me.. We started from scratch and cut, sewed, unpicked, resewed until we got the perfect fit lol..

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sandralee
10-03-2008, 22:30
MelB I am soooooooooo jealous (Jack Johnson concert) - though of you when I was playing his CD today...for the 1000th time LOL! He is so mellow and AWESOME! xxx

sasa
11-03-2008, 06:15
Hey Everyone!
I have had a really wuick read through but sneeking on while DF is in the shower we are leaving in about an hour so have to be very quick! Have had a really busy couple of days getting organised oh man you need a holiday just to get oer the packing!
Thanks so much Sands! I hope the weather fines up a bit, I am sure we will get some nice days, fingers crossed anyway.

Sorry have to run, just wanted to pop in and say goodbye to you all, catch up with it all in a week!

Hope you all have a great week!xxx Stevie

AliyahBlake
11-03-2008, 06:34
MelB I am soooooooooo jealous (Jack Johnson concert) - though of you when I was playing his CD today...for the 1000th time LOL! He is so mellow and AWESOME! xxx
So am I! Although a night out anywhere without the kids would be rather good at the moment!

Have a great time, Sasa! :wave: See you when you get back.

Thanks for all your anniversary wishes, girls. We had a lovely evening!

My Mum rang last night to ask if it'd be ok if she came to stay next weekend....of course I said yes! I have the poops with Dad though.....he'd rather play golf than come with Mum to see us!:rolleyes: I told Mum to make him see sense and come and visit his grandchildren, or should I tell them that Poppy thinks golf is more important than they are? Dad makes me so cranky sometimes!!!

Blake put on an absolute screamer yesterday afternoon. He was really good all day til about 4 when I put him in for a nap, then he just lost it! He screamed for an hour, then slept 30 mins. Woke up ok, but cried for another 45 mins when it was bedtime. It's definitely his teeth, but he was overtired too. One good thing is he slept til 5am!:thumbsup:

kaybee
11-03-2008, 06:58
:cloud9:Today marks 6 years of wedded bliss for Craig and I! .

Belated Congrats AB! It's 2 years for DH and I next week.


What does everyone do with their bubs who squawk for their dummy when they lose them? Or just decide they want them in the middle of the night?! Some nights are great, but others I can easily get up and down like a yoyo - I would have much more sleep without them in the house, but they have their plus side for comforting! It's making me delay moving Noah to his nursery for night sleeps, cos I would have further to walk. ANyone else annoyed by dummies through the night?



Oh yes I hear you Sands! Ava's dummy is really giving us the Sh!ts.
I so kinda wish we didn't introduce it to her, but it really helps me stay sane, and helps to put her to sleep! It never used to be a problem, but now whe is waking up for it 4 - 5 times some nights! Unfortunately for us she is in the nursery so we have to walk in there. I kinda wish we had the room for the cot in our room, to save the effort. It's worse when she is trying to fall asleep as she waves her arms/hands around her face so much that she is continualy knocking it out.

She has started sleeping in the day for a bit now! :confused: I just can't work her out! She had 2 good naps yesterday. I spoke to a friend yesterday, whose baby is 3 weeks younger and she is having a nap after every feed still. Oh those were the days! (When I was able to get things done) It wouldn't be so bad if she didn't need to be entertained and have me in her line of sight at all times.

Well going to have some brekky now. Hope eveyone has a good day. Loving the sunny weather in Sydney.

melbryan
11-03-2008, 08:43
Hi to all!!!
Congrats AB on your anniversary 6yrs same as us!!!!

Cute pics tally and PW!!!

Well talking of Jack Johnson I have it blaring now so excited and want to learn all his songs before sat. My bro and I are going DH would rather go to the foot y .

My brood are OK Ashton has a cold and some chest cough so he is on antibiotics. But he is doingfine. We are going to make easter baskets ready for our easter hunt at easter.

Mum and dad will come with us to the easter show so we are lookign forward to that.
For thos that live in sydney I am a member of th eiwggles website and they said to print the email and get each kid in for $5. Tell me and I'll send you the email.Tghis is for March and April.

Kaybee dummies are a life saver but will be taking it off him soon enough as I reckon it affects their speech.

sandralee
11-03-2008, 09:46
Oh yes I hear you Sands! Ava's dummy is really giving us the Sh!ts.
I so kinda wish we didn't introduce it to her, but it really helps me stay sane, and helps to put her to sleep! It never used to be a problem, but now whe is waking up for it 4 - 5 times some nights! Unfortunately for us she is in the nursery so we have to walk in there. I kinda wish we had the room for the cot in our room, to save the effort. It's worse when she is trying to fall asleep as she waves her arms/hands around her face so much that she is continualy knocking it out.
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I could have written that post.. DITTO!! Facing new probs here - Noah has figured out how to escape from his bouncer in a couple of minutes, he has been leading up to this for a while but it is scarey how quickly they master things! Especially when he tries to catapult out by bouncing once he gets down low enough. And he gets cranky once he has rolled over if I put him on the floor... so now I have to roll him around in his highchair LOL, I feel like I am dragging a wheelchair around the house until he gets sick of it. (which is only about 15mins!!!!!:confused:) I have a sling but he gets bored if I don't keep moving around grrrrrr. Hard to think of ways to entertain them at this stage!!!!! THink I want my mum to move in for a month or so. Also, I was SO STUPID LAST NIGHT - we BD'd with no contraception... & I am ovulating!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO have sent Steve to get the morning after pill today, on his way home from work. I am not taking any chances, jeez, already have my hands full with a daytime catnapper. Gets annoying putting them to bed every hour, and I have the sleepytime routine off pat by now. Ooh yeah, said it before and I will say it again... GROUNDHOG DAY! I am going crazy! (crazi-ER! LOL) Only have 40-45mns while he naps, then have to entertain the little fella for an hour, then it's back to bed. He must get sick of it too lol. Hopefully he will start napping longer soooooooooooooooon........ Somebody please tell me this stage gets easier................ pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease! This last 15 1/2 weeks has been full-on to say the least. :sleeping:xx

Vespera
11-03-2008, 10:01
Belated Congrats AB! It's 2 years for DH and I next week.

Wow its my 2 year anniversary next week too! Ours is the 21st.


GROUNDHOG DAY! I am going crazy! (crazi-ER! LOL) Only have 40-45mns while he naps, then have to entertain the little fella for an hour, then it's back to bed.

This is Connor too - I keep telling everyone I don't care as long as he sleeps at night but honestly 1 longer nap during the day would be heaven! Especially as he is awake for 2+ hours in between - he's a stayer!

Rainbowbrite
11-03-2008, 10:08
I just have to post this as there is NO Way it will last. I wrapped Ani, gave him a quick bf and put him in the cot awake at 9.20..........he's only just woken :smiliedance: :smiliedance:

I heard him stir at 10 so raced in to loosen the wrap but didn't, I just left him & he went back to sleep :D

Sorry, don't mind me :o

Loved the pics, everyone is growing up so much!! Especially love the cloth bum :) Will have to take some of Ani :yes: Hearing about the dummy problems makes me glad we couldn't get Ani to take it.

sandralee
11-03-2008, 12:18
p.s. today is my worst nightmare... Noah is no longer happy in anything I put him in, to occupy his awake time! He escapes out of the bouncer.. gets cranky with anything that has a harness to strap him in safely... rolls over either way & loses the plot....I have begged my mum to come down next week on her days off from the hospital... would love to sit around and play with him all day but I have housework to do as well lol! My walk of shame has been to the fridge to pour a glass of wine before noon! I am hoping this is a one-off day! Now I have to get out this week to buy things to baby proof the house because with his attitude I don't think it will be long before he motors around getting into everything! I wonder if hey make dvd's for babies this age cos at this rate I will take any kindof entertainment for him that I can get! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Vespera
11-03-2008, 12:26
Hearing about the dummy problems makes me glad we couldn't get Ani to take it.

I second this! I was so annoyed at the time but so very glad now.


My walk of shame has been to the fridge to pour a glass of wine before noon! I love you Sands! I've done this too but thought it sounded terrible to admit it to anyone.


I wonder if hey make dvd's for babies this age
Does Noah like watching normal tv? I find Connor loves sport and poker (what am I doing to my child) I guess because there is lots of action on the screen. We have foxtel so I can send you a tape of basketball if you want :p

I'm having probs feeding Connor at the moment, he feeds and then sticks his fist in his mouth but most of the time too far in and he spews what he just ate (yep all over me) He gets really narky if I try and hold his hands out of his mouth but it feels like such a waste of food.....