Oct 05 Mummy's Group! #8

[Moorish]

Here's a fresh one for us girls!
. . . Just because I can! LOL! :laughing:

[cath]

Hello again,
Oh Tan big hugs to you with the whole thinking about the breastfeeding thing. Don't stress yourself out about it too much and there is absolutely nothing wrong with FF from the start if you are more comfortable with that. The whole having a baby experience is full on enough as it is without pressuring yourself into trying to breastfeed if you're not really all that keen to do it. I must admit that half my reason for doing it is laziness -I am lucky enough to have no major dramas doing it (except it still bloody hurt again for the first few weeks - the pain really is a test of strength) and it really is so easy once it is all going smoothly (as Fi said no preparation etc.). I must say that men have no idea how hard it can be and the hormones and pain and tiredness it can involve - I swear if they had to do it every baby would be formula fed. Don't let Troy tell you that if you choose to FF the whole cleaning thing is your responsibility - it is his baby too and breastfeeding isn't just as simple as "popping them on the boob" -it can be really hard work. I'm probably not helping you telling you all about the pain etc. but I just want to acknoweldge that it is not an easy thing to do and there is absolutely nothing wrong with not doing it. If you want to hear some positives about breastfeeding there are lots of those too. As I mentioned the ease of doing it once you have it all sorted out - no packing of bottles to go out etc., the funny little quirks babies have as they breastfeed (Paddy used to flap his arm like a chicken and Will runs his hand over and over down the edge of my top -I just love watching it - so cute) -that may not just be related to breastfeeding though I guess, the comfort factor it can provide if required and the way they cuddle into you when they know they are about to be fed. It really is a beautiful thing but there are lots of beautiful moments with babies that have nothing to do with feeding so don't worry about it too much. I think your PND fears are totally valid and ultimately you need to look after your health to be a good Mum so do what feels right for you. We are all here to support you whichever way you go and as I said don't stress yourself out over it too much. You are a fantastic mother no matter what you do.

Fi I hope Claire and Owen are both okay (and you too). Poor Dave - doesn't sound nice. How good is that with Claire asking to go to bed! I am definitely missing my hour or more to myself in the day. I love the name Archie too -it is a cool little name (and this Archie we know is a beautiful little boy).

Hayley how did the move go? I hope it all went to plan and you had a good day. I hear you about the stuffed toys. My brother and his girlfriends have given the boys a stuffed toy for every present they have ever given them and it is getting out of control (the last one was this stupid metre and a half long catepillar -where the hell are we meant to put that??). I bought one of those pop up things too (a duck) and half of them are in there. The stupid catepillar is currenly under Paddy's bed and we have a toy box half stuffed with them too. I don't think they are going to have kids but if they do I will so be buying them a stuffed toy for every present too and then they might realise that they can be really bloody annoying. How bizarre about your dream. I had heaps of weird ones with both pregnancies too -it is a really strange thing.

Renee how impressive that Katelyn did a wee in the potty at day care -that is a big step. I hope you are feeling okay and had a good weekend. Have you told your family your are pregnant yet?

Anyway Dean is preparing dinner. It is going to be a late dinner tonight - 8:10 and he is only just starting and he is so slow. Poor man I shouldn't bag him when he is cooking me dinner. He is so funny -he is preparing his "specialty" of spaghetti bolognaise (why is this the one dish every man can cook) and he takes such pride in it so I will let him take his time. I will fill up on a few light beers in the meantime I think.

Hopefully I will get on again soon if I can keep Paddy occupied somehow.

[cath]

Oh man I just freaked out - after writing my huge post I hit submit and it told me the thread was closed. Thank goodness I could go back and then copy and paste my post and resubmit it into this new one (nice work thanks Moderator Anna:p).

Anna hope you are enjoying those Tim Tams. Lou got me hooked onto the chewy caramel ones and now they are the only ones I buy. Which ones are you eating? Good work wit hthe vacuuming and dusting. That was on my list of things to do on the weekend and I only vacuumed 2 rooms. Oh well I've got a stupid cold and had a little nap in the day for the first time in a long time.

[Moorish]

LMAO Cath!

Soo sorry! I didn't realise you were posting in the old thread, so glad you were able to go back and get it!

As for the dusting, vacuuming & tim-tam-ing - I mean here in the new thread - not at my house!

Caramel tim tam anyone?!! :chef: :laughing:

I'm catching up from the old thread (been busy :rolleyes:) so I'll post back tomorrow - I'm buggered and I'll be in bed soon.

xoxo

[hayleylea]

Hi guys

Cath - the move went well. I havent actually been out to the house but the furniture looks good out there apparently lol. I stayed here and cleaned and packed away some other stuff. Then i planned on going out to the house but My sister rang to say Cooper wanted his mummy :( He sounded so sad on the phone so i went and got him about 3 - he ran into a wall at my sisters while he was playing and hurt himself and he was getting tired and not to mention the silly little cough. But he had a really good day. I tried to get him to have a sleep but he didnt and believe it or not he only has just gone to bed after no day sleep and getting up at 8 oclock lol. We have been at the MILS for dinner. He has been good as gold though!

I have the sorest throate though so im not sure whats going on. I feel like **** to be honest!

Tan - i think all your fears about PNG are totally justified. My fears are no where near as bad as yours would be but the whole Kidney stone thing arose from me not looking after myself properly - eg drinking enough etc while breast feeding. Its not an excuse but it didnt help - like i said Cooper was feeding off my constantly i had no time for anything little own to eat or drink and i also lost alot of weight (and it wasnt good weight loss either!). I think you should just do what you feel is right. Like i said in my last post im just going to go with the flow and see what happens. Im actually with you in the cleaning of the bottles etc didnt bother me a great deal.

Anyway i better head off...night guys.

[MrsMiggins]

:laughing: Sorry Hayles!!! Just laughing at your preggo brain again!! :p


Tan - i think all your fears about PNG are totally justified.

Actually, I'm not sure if that's so much pregnancy brain as a Freudian Slip!!!

I'm glad the move went well for you! Poor Cooper & his run-in with that nasty wall! (Damn! And here I was thinking that Owen's own run-ins were a temporary thing!!)

Tan, the PND & BF issue is certainly a very valid thing & definitely something you need to take into consideration. I guess my view of the whole BF v FF thing is that if you aren't happy BF, and it's not something you want to do, then there is certainly no shame in FF. It's not worth beating yourself up over. FF babies are every bit as strong, intelligent, healthy etc.... as BF babies and Claire (among others) is a living, breathing PRIME example of that!


I also had a thought tonight as I battled to get Owen off to sleep (too bloody hot in his room & every time I tried to detach him from my boob, he'd wake up screaming - there's a great argument for formula right there!!!) that you could probably even combine BF & FF if you wanted to see how things go with the BF, but don't want the pressure of full time BF. I know it can interfere with your supply etc, but it can be done. That's what I did with Claire for 3 months (my milk did eventually dry up, but that's because I'd lost motivation with the BF). Just a thought.

Cath, mmmmmm! How'd the beers go down? I had one myself tonight! Dave still was feeling ordinary, so I just got Maccas & Red Rooster (drive thru - kids in the car!!) for myself & the kids. I couldn't decide what I wanted, but I wanted something reasonably nutritious, so I got a salad from maccas & chicken & veggies from red rooster! I also got chips though (Claire would have had my guts for garters otherwise!!) and a happy meal for Claire. I also got Dave some nuggets, but he didn't eat them. When I got home, I was hot, cranky & tired. I remembered I had a couple of Hahn Premium Lights in the back fridge left over from Xmas, so I gratefully downed one!!

I loved your description of the things that babies do when they are feeding. Owen has more of a habit of pulling my hair & trying to stick his fingers (pointy fingernails & all) into my mouth or up my nose, but sometimes he can be calm & serene & it's nice then!! :D

Well, it's getting late & I really should head off to bed. Problem is, now in addition to my chronic bubhub addiction, someone has lured me into signing up to Facebook - aarrghh!!! I'm never going to be able to get off the computer now!!! lol

[hayleylea]

LMAO!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! Tan im sure you know what i mean :o I would call it a Freudian Slip too as Fi mentioned. Man im hopeless latley with my posts i really should read them more then just typing and pressing post. Sorry guys!! As for Cooper runninginto walls. Its a common thing, and falling over. lol he is very clumbsy!

Anyway Coopers still in bed. I am getting the phone next to me to start ringing the doctor at 8.30 to hopefully get an appointment. Wish me luck!

[hayleylea]

Got the doctors appointment for 10.30!!! just aswell i think because im not well at all today. I didnt feel well when i got up - a bit light headed and just generally unwell. And i have since threw up twice!!!! I feel terrible! Oh well hopefully in half an hour we will get answers for both Coopers Cough and me being sick. I just feel like i need to sleep!

Anyway ill let you guys know how i go at the docs.

have a nice day everyone.

[Wivi]

:banghead: Does anyone else have days where their kid wakes up with naughty pants on? Will has been a right bugger since he got up this morning. I can tell the naughty spot is going to be very warm all day!

Well - I have had a brief chat on MSN with Hayles - and yes she got an appointment this morning. Just as well as neither her or Cooper sound very well.

I am just going to keep right on whinging while I am here - it's raining again in Sydney and looks like it is going to rain all week. I have no clothes dryer as it is in storage while the building work is going on and my big clothes airer broke the other week! DH suggested we not get another one til the building is finished due to storage issues but I have nowhere to dry anything! It's driving me insane! There is wet washing on the line and a whole heap sitting around our house needing to be done. ARRRRGGGGHHHH!

OK vent over. Better get a wriggle on!

[MrsMiggins]

Oh Hayley!! :hugs: You poor thing!! At least you know that all is well with you & bubs (even if you feel crappy!!) I'm sorry you're having to suffer like this!

Tan, you have every right to have a whinge!! Sounds like you're in a very frustrating situation! I am such a bad environmentalist! I'd go crazy without my beloved clothes dryer! To be fair, I don't use it for everything, but I do use it nearly every load (towels, sheets etc always go in).

Our talking, singing Jeff Wiggle doll arrived this morning (the post office guy knew exactly what I was talking about when I told him which box number it was "Ahhh yes, the one that's been talking to me all morning!!") I'm saving it for Claire for when she wakes up from her nap, so I haven't opened the parcel yet.

Too hot & sticky here again today! I know I'll be whingeing come winter, but I've had enough of the humidity! My poor hair is psychotic!!!:hair:

[Wivi]

:laughing:Fi - I look like Ronald McDonald at the moment from the humidity too. I've given up and gone for the antifrizz serum so at least it is curls and not fuzz!

Hayles - pregnancy sucks for you doesn't it. I hope Cooper had a nice sleep for you today, unlike Will who had a whole 1 hour. Can't complain though - it's not like you get very tired sitting around doing nothing is it?

Oh -I forgot to mention that I had a chat to Troy about the whole BF thing last night and he didn't mean to stress me out about it. He's ok with whatever happens - but he is a bit deluded about the whole "it's natural" thing. DH's Mum is a "natural" junkie and I think it has rubbed off on him a bit. He just thinks it might be the better option cause it's natural and that's the way God intended it. I tried to point out that natural does not mean easy - in fact it is bloody hard and painful. So we are back to wait and see what happens but we won't feel guilty either way.

OK - better go and think up something to burn some excess energy out of Will.

[hayleylea]

Fi - nah its not real fair but i figure its almost the end of it all and im probably getting punished from doing wayyyyyyyy too much lol I feel better this afternoon. The jeff wiggle doll sounds very cute. Im sure the kids will love it.

Tan - Cooper slept for 2.5 hours. Which is a bit longer then i usually let him sleep for but i just really wanted a break. Plus Trent doesnt get home till 6 tonight so i figure it doesnt hurt for him to stay up a bit longer to spend some time with Daddy. He was obviously tired so thats ok. Glad you feel better about the whole bF and FF thing. As for Troys mum - dont worry about the whole Natural thing - ive heard it all before too - but its really up to you and if people dont agree then too bad! lol

anyway better go play with this boy

talk soon.

[bingo]

Hi there! Just a quicky from me as there is a thunderstorm and DH is frowning at me for having the computer on. The wedding on the weekend was fabulous, hot weather but fun was had by all. The bride looked gorgeous and the band was hilarious. They had a roving gypsy band that roved all over the room and serenaded different people.
We stayed in an OK hotel, not that great but it was nice to be away just the two of us and spend some time together for more than 2 hours. Woke up Sunday morning with a boomer headache, slept in and at 11am sauntered into town to peruse the shops and eat a very late brekkie. Then I called Mum and Dad to find out how Maddi was going only to find out Mum and Dad had been up all night vomiting and were sick with gastro. So we sadly packed up the car and came home. So our 2 night trip was canned :(. We were so looking forward to dawdling around and doing NOTHING. Ah well.
On the way home we still squeezed in a visit to Milawa cheese factory and afternoon at King Valley Cafe.
Mum and Dad are all better now thank goodness. Can't believe they both got sick the very same night.
Hayley, sorry to hear the MS is back and giving you grief. Thats not good at all. You'll just have to take it easy and not stress yourself out.
Oh better go, hot head is throwing me evils and I'd best not argue in front of my parents. :rolleyes:
Talk soon! (probably late this week)

[hayleylea]

Morning guys

Lou - glad to hear the wedding went well - no so good that you had to cut your trip short because of that gastro bug. Im glad your parents are better though. Hope Tony stopped his evil looks when you got off the computer last night :laughing:

I just peeled myself out of bed and had a shower and got dressed. I have to be out at our house at 9 to meet the shower screen people! :smiliedance: Cant wait to finally have it up - but i think im going to have to wake bugalugs up so hopefully he stays happy. Not too sure how long we will be out there but we have plenty to do...unpack stuff etc. Dont worry guys ill be taking it easy and wont be going hard at it just nice and slow. I woke up feeling yucky again this morning so im not over doing it. We pick our benchtops up from sydney tommorrow (about bl00dy time!) and then im getting dropped off at mums and staying there till friday for some R&R :smiliedance:

Anyway i better go finish getting a bag packed for Cooper

talk soon.

[Wivi]

Morning all,

I don't know what is wrong with me lately. I was in such a mood all day yesterday and this morning I feel the same. It's not grumpy as such - just feel a bit hopeless or something.

Like I don't know what possessed me to start TT Will when I did. After being so good for a few weeks he has started not telling us again when he needs to wee. I don't know how to get past the whole taking him to the toilet thing and him initiating it himself. I am in such a dilemma - I really don't feel like cleaning up after him all the time, but I don't think that taking him to the toilet is teaching him anything and a few people have said that once you go into undies you shouldn't go back to nappies. Arrrggghhh!

Lou - glad to hear the wedding was great - no good about having to cut your trip short though. I hope that gastro bug has now left your house for good!

Hayley - you had better take it easy today (I know that is easier said than done) - Will is going to daycare and this week I have to admit, I can't wait!

[MrsMiggins]

Oh no Lou!! I hope your mum & dad manage to get a bit of rest today & that they are feelng better. Such a bummer they got sick!! Glad you had a nice time at the wedding though.

Hayles, how are you feeling now? Any better since you got up? Definitely don't overdo it, OK?

Claire is now best mates with her singing Jeff Wiggle doll, but she was a bit freaked out by it when I first gave it to her! She smiled & laughed & danced when I showed her what he did, but when I went to give him to her, she got really scared & ran away! Took her all afternoon to get used to him (but she kept wanting us to press his tummy to make him sing in the mean time!!) and she ended up taking him to bed with her. Owen had no such qualms & loved him straight away!

Owen is teething again (just for something different :rolleyes:) and has been downright miserable. (Bloody men! Can't take it!! :laughing:) He's constantly got his hands in his mouth, crying & keeps pulling at his ears. He's also got the tell tale runny nose & yucky nappies (so it wasn't Dave's dreaded lurgie afterall!!)

Speaking of Dave's dreaded lurgie, he went to the Dr yesterday & think that he not only has a viral infection, but kidney stones as well! They took some tests & he gets the results tomorrow.

We went to mum & dad's for dinner last night & mum was serving up dinner, kicked the table leg walking past it & broke her toe!! Dad took her to the ER & she got it x-rayed - turns out she completely smashed it & has to have it all strapped up for at least 5 weeks!! They were meant to be going to Sydney tomorrow for 2 days to help my grandma out with some Will stuff, so I'm not sure whether they'll be going now or not.

Better go. Dave's off doing laundry & cleaning the kitchen, so I suppose it's wrong of me to be sitting here on the computer!! :D

ETA: Tan, we posted at the same time!

I know how you're feeling - I feel like that sometimes too. I'm sorry I have no words of wisdom on the whole TT issue (I still haven't the faintest idea what I'm doing!!) but I'm sure it's just a normal setback he's having & that he'll get through it OK. I hope your day improves!! :hugs:

[hayleylea]

unfortunatley i feel like **** once this morning. I got in the car and drove out to our house and felt ordinary the whole time! Got there and dry heaved a couple of million times but nothing came out. - The man arrived on time to do the shower screen though and it only took half an hour. So i just sat with Cooper in the bedroom and we packed away some clothes. As soon as the man had finished (looks really good by the way!) we got in the car and come home. Well we stopped briefly at coles on the way home to get some nice drink, fruit and a microwave meal for me for lunch (:o cant be bothered doing ANYTHING today). So thats it for me for the day im not doing ANYTHING at all! Im so sick of getting up and down during the night for toilet breaks! this baby is really low and OMG it drives me nuts - i feel like im busting about 5 times a night and get there and do a tiny dribble..hardley seems worth getting up for :laughing: LMAO - i dont do pregnancy very well do I??? HAHAHA> Hence this is my last one!!!! (i say that now anyway). My sister is coming over this afternoon to kill some time before she has to go to swimming lessons for her kids. I warned her that the house wont be clean because i cant be stuffed lol.

Fi - POOR DAVE!!!!!!!!!! as i have said a billion times Kidney stones are the worst things ever!!!!!! MUCH worse then given birth IMO. So i feel very very sorry for him. I hope they pass quickly for him...tell him to drink lots and lots and lots of water! And your Poor mum! Broken toe sounds very painfull!!!

Tan - your allowed to be in a funny mood. Im always changing my moods latley. Enjoy Will being at day care too!

Ok im off to have a cool drink. Cooper is once again getting baby sat by the TV :o Bad mummy that I am :thumbsdown: But i cant really do much more at the moment!

talk soon.

[hayleylea]

Hmmmm i hope my whinging didnt scare you all off!!!! :o

Cooper didnt have a sleep today - he had time out though...45 minutes in his bed and another half hour or so on the lounge watching a movie so i was happy with that. I fed and bathed him before Trent got home because i knew he would be tired. Trent and I were eating dinner at 6 and looked over and Cooper was sound asleep on the lounge at 6.15- so he is now in bed snoring his head off. Doesnt really matter if he wakes early because we have to leave early to go to sydney anyway..(coopers going to my mums).

Anyway I should get going.

talk soon...

[Wivi]

Oh Hayles - LOL at Cooper falling asleep on the couch! He'll probably sleep forever and you will have to wake him in the morning. Never mind that he didn't have a day sleep, I strongly suspect that will be happening around here soon too. Daycare are not sure if Will had a sleep or not today - apparently he climbed in the pram and said he was going to sleep but he was only in there for 40 minutes and then got up again. Noone actually saw him asleep - they saw him looking dozy but not actually asleep so they think he either didn't have one or it was very brief. I don't really care- he is compliant with having some sort of a rest and that's ok with me. What surprises me is how well he copes with the rest of the day though and that he doesn't actually go to bed much earlier. It's what makes me think it won't be long before he stops having sleeps. I wouldn't be very pleased about it - but if that's what happens then so be it, we'll just find a way to deal with it I guess.

The thing that did really annoy me today was that I called a taxi to go and pick Will up and it didn't come! So I had to walk Will home in the pram in the rain! Mind you, Will didn't give two hoots - thought it was a great adventure. I can say that pushing a pram with one hand and holding an umbrella in the other when you are 7 months PG is not easy. I was very annoyed at the taxi company. The only thing that stopped me being really angry was knowing that as of next week Troy is changing his work days to Mondays and Wednesdays and so I can pick Will up in the car on Tuesdays.

Fi - poor Dave and his kidney stones! That doesn't sound good at all. And your poor Mum! Wow - she must have really kicked the table hard. As for Owen and his teeth I guess at the rate he is getting his teeth it'll all be over by the time he is 18 months (unlike here - where the hell are those 2 year old molars?) and you'll be able to rest a lot easier. Oh -I meant to say the other day that I never thought of Claire as clingy - perhaps I have forgotten. I always thought she was so smart and independent!

OK I should go - hope you are all having a lovely evening.

[hayleylea]

I know Tan - poor Cooper - he looked so peacefull asleep on the lounge too. Im not sure though if its going to last the night because he woke up about half an hour ago screaming his head off and i went in and he was all sweaty - his pillow was WET!! (from sweat). I picked him up and he was sobbing on my shoulder. I changed him gave him some nurofen and cuddled him on the lounge and he told me he wanted to go back to bed so he is now there asleep. Its really a mystery....turns out my MIL was sick last night with a high temp and feeling really sick - so im starting to think maybe i have a bug and not MS -???? one can only only hope. Although it might also be what is causing coopers temp tonight. He still has that horrible cough and a runny nose but the doctor reckons his fine so it really is just one of them things i just have to take as it comes.

Im with you Tan though - i really dont mind if Cooper doesnt sleep during the day aslong as he has some sort of rest....or quiet time. And he is good with that.

Anyway im off to watch TV and then get an early night....

night guys.

[MrsMiggins]

Tan, Claire is very independant, you're right, and she always was.. BUT, she still was clingy in that she could happily move away from me, but if I tried to move away from her, it was on for all money!! I guess you could say she was independant on her own terms! :D

Grrrrr to the taxi company!!! :mad: I don't even bother with taxi's here any more. I've only ever had to call one twice, and neither time they showed up. There just aren't enough to go around here. It's terrible!!

That's good if Will is happy without a sleep. I mean, a sleep would be fantastic, of course, but at least if he's really not going to have one, he's OK without it, IYKWIM?

Claire is a great day sleeper ATM, she will happily have a good 3 hours usually (must take after her dad there!!) but I do actually have to make her have a sleep. Otherwise she'd just stay awake all day & be the most miserable so-and-so around come 5pm!!

Hayles, how are you feeling? I am thinking about you a lot lately, wondering how you're managing. You just have so much on your plate right now, it's so unfair for you to be sick. :( As for Dave's kidney stones, he doesn't think he has them - the Dr just suggested it might be one possibility. He'll find out tomorrow.

Have a good night, ladies!

[hayleylea]

Fi - AWWW thanks for thinking about me. Im doing OK though. I know i whinge on here ALOT and im sorry for that guys. Life isnt that bad and neither is being pregnant - I shouldnt complain too much because the end result is definatley worth it!!!!! Me on a personal note am still dealing with the PNG thing...but have put that in the back of my mind till i have the baby. I want to be able to enjoy having this baby without arguing and thinking about that constantly and to my suprise i have actually done pretty well not thinking about it - its easy when you have heaps of other stuff on your mind!!

Im getting a bit scared about the whole birth thing - I actually dont think labour was that bad with Cooper apart from being long but its still scary not knowing whats going to happen! Im very excited at the same time though! LAst night i was up and down like a yoyo going to the toilet - and this morning im feeling a bit "seedy" and waiting for sleepy head to wake up so we can hit the road. Im planningon taking a pillow in the car to try and catch on up some ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ's on the way to sydney lol.

Im so glad that Claire is having some good day sleeps for you. Im actually the opposite with Cooper. I like the days when he doesnt (aslong as he has a rest) because he goes to bed reallly easy of a night 7 oclock and i dont hear from him till 8-8.30 the next day lol. I dont let him sleep more then 2 hours if he does have a sleep because otherwise all hell breaks loose and he wont go to sleep till 9 or 9.30 or so - not that there is anything wrong with that he still goes to bed at 7.30 but he might yell out a few times till around that time. Theres also nothing wrong with the kids that do go to bed at 9 or later i just rather Cooper in bed early because im selfish and love my me time and Trent and me time during the night :laughing::p

OK i better go try and wake sleepy head up again!

[cath]

Hello there,
Hayley hope your trip to get the benchtops is going well and you get to catch up on a little bit of sleep. Late pregnancy is not fun is it? I remember it well and I really think even though you are in pain after having a baby it is just so nice to get your body back (and to stop having to go to the toilet so much in the middle of the night). The unknown of labour is definitely a bit scary but I'm sure you will get through it and be fine - you have done it before and can do it again.

Fi I hope Dave is okay and your poor Mum and her toe! How awful -sounds very painful. How's the Jeff Wiggle doll going? I love that Claire took it to bed -very cute. I hope Owen is going okay with those teeth.

Tan the weather in Sydney sounds nuts. I hope you get some sun soon - I can only imagine how annoying the washing issues would be. How are the renovations going?

Lou the wedding sounds great - love the sound of the band. Your poor parents being sick and how annoying your break got cut shot. At least you got to the Milewa Cheese Factory-i've been there and they have some beautiful cheeses.

Anna I saw your post in the other section about the girl's not packing up their stuff. How's that all going? I'm sure we will have that issue soon enough. Paddy doesn't pack up his stuff at all -I really need to start getting on to that.

Anyway just a quick check in. Mr No Day Sleep is hassling me so had better go. Chat soon.

[Wivi]

Hi Cath - nice to hear from you! So - still no day sleeps for Paddy huh? That's nuts - I thought he would still give you one every now and then! As I mentioned the other day - Will's are getting shorter and shorter - today was about an hour and 20 minutes, I suspect one of these days he won't have one either!

Hayles - I hope Cooper was ok after his sweaty bed incident. We had that happen a couple of time over Christmas at my Mum's when Will was unwell - it's so awful isn't it? I also hope that you get some zz's in when you are in the car today although I seem to remember that the car travel doesn't agree with you all that well? Oh - I totally agree about the early night thing - I love that Will goes to bed early! I'd much rather that than a big break in the day and Will running around til 9 or 10pm! Especially as I often like to go to bed early myself - I am so not a night owl!

Well - Sydney decided to give us some sunshine today so I did a whole heap of washing - especially as the forecast is for another big storm this afternoon and then rain again til next Tuesday. The builders surprised us and came today and have put our new doors in and have done some more work on the deck (like the timber to enclose the bottom). So that was a good thing. My only (very small) gripe was that I cleaned the bathroom yesterday and now it is filthy - but I can live with that!

Hmm - think they might be packing up now to go home. Better go and do some cleaning up - I had no idea that putting doors in was so messy!

[hayleylea]

Hey guys well we got our bench tops and are very happy with them. I didnt manage to get some sleep though. I spent the way up there feeling sick and on the way back i just couldnt sleep - too uncomfortable!! It was a nice day in sydney Tan - it was hot - well i was hot lol

Cath good to hear from you again - i know ill be fine in labour but its still just scary!

OK dinner time so i better go

OH cooper was fine after his sweaty bed incident!

[cath]

Hi again,
Paddy is currently with my Mum so I have a little peace (not much though -Will is bored and whingy and driving me a bit insane). Tan I don't think there is any way that Paddy is ever going to have a day sleep again unforunately. It is half a mindset with him now -he is quite determined that he does not sleep in the day anymore. We went to a friend's for lunch the other day and he nodded off in the car when we were almost home and was totally buggered and I carried him inside mostly asleep but as soon as I entered his room and tried to put him in bed he snapped awake and was telling me "no sleep, no sleep". Crazy kid -even if he is exhausted I don't think he will ever lie down in the day again.

I have never been so tired in my life. It is a really full on day with him up the whole time and Will has been waking me up every 4 hours or so for a feed which is driving me nuts. We also have stupid ferral cats again who are miaowing really loudly just near our bed somewhere so between cat noises and Will calling out to me I haven't been getting much sleep. I've called the council and hopefully the "cat catcher" will be around soon and I so hope he gets them. Dean think there are 2 of them mating -great!! Soon we will have a whole bloody family of the horrible things. The ferral cat problem around here is so bad. We have caught about 10 in the last 2 years -yuck!!

Will's 4th tooth cut through today so I am hoping that is the explanation for his crazy wakeups. Paddy didn't go to Dean's parents this week and since Dean moved offices he doens't go to my Mum's for the whole day either which is a bit pf a pain. Oh well -hopefully next week he will go to Dean's parents for a bit again so I get more of a break. I don't know what it is but I am seriously stuffed. A combination of now having to prepare food for and feed the two boys and having Paddy up and "at me" all day and trying to keep on top of the shopping, cleaning, washing, paying bills, ringing the council etc. has taken it's toll this week. How the hell am I going to cope with 3 kids?? My hope is that soon the boys will "play together" more and that will keep Paddy off my back a bit (I love the little man but he really is quite demanding and exhausting). Anyway that's enough of my whining. I will get myself sorted soon and hopefully find some energy somewhere.

The boys were very cute yesterday. They spent about 20 minutes rolling around on our bed together and copying eahc other with crazy noises - it was very funny. Will has this thing with grabbing onto Paddy's hair (which desperately needs a cut). For now Paddy thinks it is funny but I'm sure it is going to end in tears soon. Anyway here's a photo of the 2 of them from their "playing session":

The boys (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_5648.jpg)

I'd better head off and get some stuff done around here. Paddy will be back any minute. Hope everyone is well.

[MrsMiggins]

Cath! OMG how gorgeous are your boys!!! That look sso funny with Will holding onto Paddy's hair like that! Good thing it doesn't bother him - for the time being!!

DAMMIT!!!!! We just had a big storm pass over, all of a sudden. I rushed outside to get some nappies off the line (that've been hanging out for about a week - not enough time between downpours for them to dry out - until today!!) and I managed to get them inside before the rain came. So I was feeling pretty proud of myself, went to go check all the open windows to make sure no rain was getting in.... spotted my car in the driveway & remembered I left the back windows down to cool it down about 3 hours ago!!! So I had to run out in the TORRENTIAL rain & put them up. Thing is, I have those mesh window cover things on them & I knew that as soon as I tried to put the windows up when they're wet, that it would just tear the window covers to shreds - which it did! But I had no option, as I couldn't leave the windows down!! (Can't really take them off either) Grrrrrrr!!!!! Now I'm going to have to buy new ones again!!

Tan, glad your renos are moving ahead nicely! Bummer about the bathroom though!

Hayles, I think everyone gets scared of what's going to happen during the birth - fear of the unknown & all that. I know you will be fine, but I know it's still scary!

I have to run - Claire is demanding peanut butter!

[hayleylea]

Cath - i think Coopers day sleeps are pretty much a thing of the past too - that is unless he gets up earlier then usual. HE had a 2.5 hour sleep for my mum yesterday but thats because i woke him up at 6.30 yesterday morning. Today he went to bed at mums and had quiet time but he didnt go to sleep. Although when i asked him he said he had a BIG sleep - cheeky bugger. he was sound asleep by 6.30 tonight though! He still goes off to bed every day though for 40 minutes or so - and then i make him lie on the lounge so atleast i still get some quiet time. They arent quite over he will still go to sleep if he is really tired which i guess is a bonus. You sound exhausted. Hope that now that tooth is through Will sleeps for longer stretches for you. And what a gorgeous photo of your boys!!! PRECIOUS!

Fi - GRRR about the rain and your window covers! My brother lives in Wynnum and he said the amount of rain they have been getting is unbelievable!!!

Anyway im off to watch TV with my Mum, im off home again tommorrow.

Talk soon.

[Wivi]

Oh Cath - :hugs:! You sound so tired you poor thing. I really hope Will starts giving you a better night's sleep soon - babies are crazy aren't they? When I think about how I used to think (obviously pre-baby) that once a baby sleeps through it will always sleep through...well, some days it gives me a good giggle and others I just wonder at my own stupidity! Oh - love the photo too, your boys are going to be such great mates when they get a bit older!

I think Will's shorter sleeps caught up with him today - I was out at a meeting and he slept for well and truly 2 hours while he was here with Troy. It probably helped that he went swimming again this morning and that there was no banging/sawing etc going on here today. The builder rang a little while ago and said he would be back here again at 7am tomorrow - but given that it is currently raining (again!) I have my doubts as to how much he will be able to do, if he gets here at all.

I went to the obstetrician again today who told me that he will be away on holidays when my baby is due. The guy he has organised to look after his patients is actually very nice - I have met him twice before so I am not really worried. Mind you - the Ob did comment that seeing as Will was early then we may well be seeing each other in the delivery suite anyway. I asked him about that and he said that while it certainly isn't a definite thing, people tend to have a pattern with their births. Anyway - the appointment went well, the glucose test was normal, weight gain was good etc etc. Only thing is that baby hasn't turned around yet but Ob doesn't seem concerned about that either. I am not quite 29 weeks so maybe it happens later with second bubs? All I know is now I have to see him fortnightly - kind of nice on one hand as you know that it means the time is drawing nearer but rather irritating at the same time as 2 weeks goes past VERY quickly!

Well DH got off his butt tonight and went looking at baby names by himself. He came back with some reasonable suggestions but also some ridiculous ones - or ones that were just a bit too "out there" for me. I think his family are kind of into unusual names so that doesn't really surprise me but I had to draw the line at some of his ideas! (I won't share them in case I offend anyone).

Hayles - I don't think Cooper's day sleeps are over at all! He still has them most of the time and when he does they are nearly all quite big. I think they will stop when you want them to stop and not before - although it does mean he is awake later at night. I hope you have had a decent rest at your Mum's too - we had considered going to my parent's this weekend but it is raining there too and wouldn't be much fun for Will. Maybe next weekend instead.

OK - better get off here and go and do the washing up. I have a bad habit of leaving it til morning lately and it is always easier to do it at night when Will is sleeping!

[hayleylea]

Tan - your right i might be jumping the gun a little with saying Coopers day sleeps are over..but i truly think its drawing near. I think the move to our house will also add to it aswell as its going to be a new enviroment. Like i said i will try and persist though each day and see how we go! :yes: I know what you mean with fortnightly visits - im now up to weekly visits - pretty scary! Wont be long and we will both be announcing the births of our little ones. Thats good Troy come back with some reasonable names - Trent and I went a bit off our names for a week but now we are back to the original ones we picked. We both really like them and figure thats all that matters!

Our phone is on at our house! :thumbsup::smiliedance: So nothing stopping us now with moving. Only thing is the fences were meant to get done this weekend by trent and his uncle and of course its bloody rained all week and expected to rain again on the weekend. I suppose it doesnt matter all that much but it does mean that the dogs will have to stay with the MIL until we get the fences done which is no drama - BUT i feel much better when they are around especially when Trent is on night shift! We will see how we go.

Anyway better go get my stuff together...

talk soon. Cath i hope you managed to get a restfull night last night!

[nkenward]

Hi all,

Just a quick one from me. No personals I am sorry. I have been flat out for the past week. Quite a change i suppose and haven't been stuck at home with 2 boys.

We have a wedding tomorrow and its meant to be cold and wet. The reception is outside in a marquee - bummer. But I have been stressing about the dress - just fit in to it!, Shoes, hair etc... stressing about having the boys babysat for about 8 hours. argh - I will be glad when it is over.

Glad to hear about how everyone is going. I have been reading up on the posts - but so much is discussed its hard to keep up.

Oh I have a question for you all. Sorry if this question is a little too personal or TMI - but how long did it take to get your AF back after the birth? I am not sure how concerned I should be. I only bf for a week, but 13 weeks down the track I still have had no indication of it returning.... I did a preg. test about week 9 and that was neg. So that was it. I was told to wait 10 weeks - but I am a little scared and dont' exactly know what the hell to expect - should i just wait a little longer?

Anyway must go - we have playgroup in about an hour.

[cath]

Fi I just saw someone wishing you Happy Birthday in the birthday section - is it your birthday? A big happybirthday if it is!! I hope you are having a lovely day.

Hi again Nat! I'm not sure about the AF thing. I didn't get mine back until 12 months with Paddy and still don't have it back with Will and he will be 7 months tomorrow (but I breastfed Paddy until 12 months and am still breastfeeding Will so that explains that I guess). Hopefully someone will be able to help you out. If you were told to wait 10 weeks then I guess 13 weeks isn't too far from that so it will quite possible be turning up soon. I hope you are coping well with your 2 boys.

Hayley excellent news about the phone. How exciting you can move out there now (once you sort out the fence issue of course -I can understand feeling happier having the dogs around).

Tan that's good that at least you like your back up Obstetrician. Sounds like you may still get your one though if the coming early pattern continues. I can't believe you are in the 3rd trimester -that has gone so fast! Good work Troy with looking into names - Dean would never do that and it is always me starting the name discussions. I'm sure baby will turn around soon enough -still have a bit of time up your sleeve.

Oh damn -Will is not happy because he is stuck on his tummy and Paddy is right at my side with the noisiest toy he could find -better go. Chat soon.

[MrsMiggins]

Thanks Tan! Yes, it is my birthday (might have to go check out the birthday section!!) I'm the grand old age of 32 today. I've been having a really nice day. Owen woke up just before 5 & I only took about 10 mins to get him back to sleep. But then once I went back to bed, I was just lying there wide awake, so I decided to sneak off to the gym. It was great! The place was practically empty, I had a good, long workout, steam & sauna, shower then stopped on the way home for maccas pancakes & a nice cup of coffee from this really great coffee place. Got home & Claire met me at the door with a big "HAPPY BIRTHDAY MUMMY!!!" - So cute!!! Dave had actually given both the kids breakfast already (surprise! surprise!) but they certainly weren't too full to have some pancakes!

Then we all went up to the Ginger Factory. It was such a nice morning (apart from Owen chucking a wobbly in the car, but more on the reason for that in a minute...) beautiful weather (expecting yet another storm later this afternoon!) and there were no crowds. We went on this little boat ride (it's this really cool animatronic thing & you have to find the gingerbread man in various places around the world) and the lady who runs it said if we came back later, she'd give us another ride free! So we went on the train around the factory grounds (it's beautiful there with all the ginger plants & they have a reconstructed farmhouse etc. & some chickens they throw food to from the train - the kids loved that part!!) then back for our free boat ride. Then we had some ice cream (I had ginger & passionfruit and ginger & chocolate - YUM!!!) and headed home.

Owen this morning cut yet another tooth and - you are not going to believe this!! - it's an eye tooth!!! We're still waiting on one of his lower front teeth & he has a molar & an eye tooth! I said to Dave he's going to want to start getting some of the missing ones shortly, because he's pretty much only got teeth on one side of his mouth on the bottom! But that will explain why he's been so damn moody & unsettled lately, I guess. Today in the car, he just screamed & writhed around the whole way there & back. He was fine out of the car, but when he's teething, he just doesn't seem to be happy in the car for some reason.

Hayles, that is such great news about the phone!! Hopefully the rain will calm down a bit soon & you can get the fences done. We have the problem here that we can't get our lawns mowed! I think it has rained pretty much every day for at least the past few weeks. And we've had just SO much rain since before Christmas. The lawns get water logged & while you may get a really hot day that lasts until about 5 pm or so, it's not enough to dry it out enough to mow it before the next lot of rain comes down. At least it's not like ours is the only lawn in the street looking shabby!! Everyone is in the same boat (except the guy 2 doors down who was out mowing his lawn when I got back from the gym this morning - he must've just given up waiting for it to dry out!)

Tan, that's good that you are OK with either OB who might deliver your baby. At least that's one less thing you have to worry about. LOL about Troy & the baby names! Dave was hopeless too! The only suggestion he ever seemed able to come up with for a boy's name was "David" :rolleyes: I'm not even sure if he was serious or not!! But there is just no way I'd do it. We have enough problems at Christmas etc as it is (my brother's name is also David). I'd love to hear some of the names he came out with! Actually, there was one name that Dave wanted & I just said no way! It was Sebastian. Not that there's anything particularly wrong with that name in itself, it's just that it makes me think of Guy Sebastian!! lol

Nat! So great to hear from you!! I still haven't had AF back (although I bled for 4 months after I had Owen, so I'm certainly in no great hurry to see it back!!) but then again, I'm still BF. I stopped BF Claire early on though (she was only having 1-2 BF's a day by the time she was 4 weeks old) and I got AF back around 8 weeks after she was born. I bled for 6 weeks after I had her, so I didn't think that was very fair!! My GP said that once you stop BF, it can be anywhere from straight away to several months afterwards. I think you should definitely have another PG test though, just in case. I know how you feel though. I had one a few months ago (for some reason, I was having a lot of my usual PG symptoms) and I was extremely anxious about it! I mean, it's not like it would have been the end of the world, I'd love a third child, but there is just no way I'm prepared for it right now. I was very relieved it was negative, but at the same time there was this little hint of sadness! Maybe it was just from being so used to being devastated at BFN's!

I hope the wedding goes well tomorrow, that your dress looks lovely, there's no worries with the baby sitters, and the rain holds off!

All right, better wrap this up now! Have a great day ladies! :D

[cath]

Okay - be prepared -husband vent ahead!

Dean just rang me and said "did you get my SMS" which I didn't because I have been busy in the kitchen for the last hour and the phone was in my bag. The SMS was "you ok if I meet Craig (his brother) for a drink?". I swear this man has not been listening to me at all this week. As I have mentioned I am really struggling with tiredness (both physical and emotional) this week and have been trying to tell him how **** I am really feeling. I knew he hadn't really been listening to me. I spoke to him earlier this afternoon (like 3pm) and he was still out at the pub for lunch with his work mates. What the hell is he thinking even asking me if it is okay to go out after work with his brother!! Can't he bloody well think - "my poor wife isn't getting much sleep at the moment and is tired and needs a break - maybe I'll try and get home early and take her some flowers and cook her a nice dinner". I am going to have to have some words to this man! Oh here he is - I will continue this vent later.

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

HAPPY BIRTHDAY FI!!!!!! - Im glad you had a nice day! And OMG about Owen cutting his eye tooth - no wonder he has been grumpy!!!

I got home today and mum and i packed some more stuff out and then i went out to our house. I got in my car and there was NO petrol and NO gas (its dual fuel) i was sooo peeved because Trents always leaving my car on dead empty - drives me nuts!! Anyway so i packed hte car full of the stuff i packed up...packed Cooper up said good bye to mum...just made it to the petrol station. Filled the car up with gas..looked around and Cooper was asleep so i drove right up to the door to run in and pay (naughty i know but i wasnt waking him up) Got to the counter and went to get out my bank card and it wasnt there!!!!!! :o I explained to the guy that i had left my bank card at home and is it ok if i run home and get it (literally a street a way) i gave him my license and all the money i had in my wallet (which paid for half the petrol) and he said no sorry i cant let you do that you have to either leave the car here or ring someone to come and give you some money. I was sooo embarrased and so ****ed off - i know its policy but come on it wasnt a great deal of money etc. Trent was of course not there. I didnt know the expiry date of his credit card so i couldnt use that. I was beside myself and extremley emotional and almost started crying! The guy felt sorry for me and was just about let to me go home and get my card when the boss came over and said i could have ONE phone call to ring someone. So i rang my sister and luckily she was able to give me her credit card details over the phone to pay for the Bl00dy fuel. What a load of cr@p! Anyway i then went out to our house. Cooper helped Trent do some fencing while i started packing our stuff away.

Cooper must have worked up an appetite cause he managed to eat 3 huge bits of pizza and 2 bits of garlic bread! :laughing:

Cath - id be mad too if i was you too! i wouldnt like to be dean when he got home! You poor thing. You really do deserve a break!

Anyway better get this kid in the shower he is black from playing in the dirt while helping fencing. lol

talk soon.

[hayleylea]

Nat - sorry i didnt answer you before. I think my period come back about 3-4 weeks after i stopped breast feeding.....I know it can take longer though...its good to hear from you again. Enjoy that wedding and im sure you look great in your dress!! 8 hours without the boys might be a little hard - but i say enjoy it :D

[bingo]

Hi! Sorry I've been so slack but my folks are still staying with us and I feel bad tapping away on the computer when I should be talking to them. But anyways I've snuck away for a quick post.
Fi a big happybirthday to you, hope it was a good day for you. Sounded like a great start already :sunshine:.
Nat, don't worry about the dress thing. I had the same thing with the wedding we went to last weekend. I was so stressed out about the darn dress and how I would fit into it. I've out on heaps of weight this last year and I'm just disgusted at myself. But I sort of cheated (ok I really cheated) and bought one of those skirt things that acts like a body stocking and sucks your gut in tight. I got it from Myers and man did it to the trick. I felt like I lost a few kilo's overnight :D.
Yesterday we went for a day trip to Melbourne to see my cousin and her new baby girl Larissa. She is soooo cute and teeny tiny. 5 weeks prem and so so very small. Maddi was all stressed out when the baby started to cry. She ran around in circles saying "oh no, the baby - the baby" and disappeared into the kitchen. My cousin went after her and asked her what she wanted and Maddi tells her she needs a tissue to wipe the baby's tears. Awwww :p! Then she wants Larissa to share her potty with her, maybe she wants to do a wee on the potty and thats why she is so upset. Ah - it was so so funny.
Maddi's TT is back to a really good place. She went for a short period of time only wanting to use the big toilet. No insert mind you, so I had to hold her there. Not a good place to be when she's working for telstra and laying a cable let me tell you phew! But thankfully she is over that and we're back to potty central.
Mum and Dad have recovered from their gastro and will be heading back to Melbourne on Sunday. I wish we could squeeze in another escape away but I don't think Mum and Dad are up to it again this trip. I'll have to book them in sometime soon so I've got something to work towards.
Alrighty I best be off, will post a few photo's and try to get on here again. I've been reading up and trying to keep up with everyone. Just also wanted to say Cath - I would have Dean buried 6 ft under by now so I think your a saint! And Hayley I was fuming as I read through your post about the petrol. How darn annoying!!!
Have a good weekend guys!
me and baby Larissa (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/20080207b.jpg)
Maddi and baby Larissa (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/20080207a.jpg)

[cath]

Back again.

Okay - I think I have drummed it into Dean how I am feeling (still not convinced he understands though). I was just so annoyed that he even asked about going out after work. I hate being the one to tell him "no" - like I am this nagging boss of a wife. I wish the no would come from him after he thinks about it for all of 2 seconds and realises it is not a good idea himself.

I unloaded all sorts of **** on him last night. He said "I know you're tired" and I had to tell him it was more than just that. Being a SAHM is such a mundane, thankless job sometimes and it is all just crashing down on me a bit this week. I have been feeling like a slave looking after everyones needs and getting no thanks for any of it. I tried to explain that even though he is at work he goes out for lunch alot and the only person he has to think about is himself. Even if I am out for lunch I have the kids with me and am constantly thinking about and catering to their needs, safety etc. the whole time so I am not really relaxed and "enjoying myself" like I would be if I was there alone. I just said "I'm not having much fun at the moment". We have been out for dinner twice in the 7 months since Will has been born and it is always me that organises it and at the moment I just don't have the energy to organise anything and really need him to do it. He doesn't even think about it. I told him it really would be so easy for him to ring his parents and organise a date for them to babysit and book a restaurant or a movie (or anything really - a walk along the river would be nice!). He really is a bit hopeless. I also told him that I feel like we are living separate lives at the moment with him sleeping in the loungeroom. I do my thing during the day and then he comes home and we get the boys to bed after which I am exhausted then we have dinner and soon after that I am off to bed (in the room on my own) to be up and down every few hours and then it all starts again. This snoring thing really hasn't helped our relationship. He gets the mouthguard on Friday and he is banking on that "fixing" everything. It will help but he is also going to have to pull his finger out and think a bit and get me out of this rut. I know I have to help myself a bit and get out of this house and do something for myself that I enjoy and helps me rejuvinate a bit (I'm just feeling so drained at the moment I don't even have the energy to organise that).

I do love being with the little boys and I am so lucky to be able to do it and it really is only for such a short period of time but it can be really hard work and you lose yourself a bit. I said to Dean that it is a bit sad that he can't just go out and have a drink with his brother but soon enough the kids will be older and it will be fine. While they are 2 and 7 months (today!) it is a pretty tough time and he needs to put in as much as he can at home. He came and gave me a cuddle in bed this morning and I know he has been thinking about it all night and will try and do something this week but I really need things to change long term - not just this week. Anyway thanks for listening - I would be lost without being able to get everything out on here sometimes.

Lou those photos are great. What a beautiful little baby.

Oh Hayley that petrol incident sounds awful. How annoying that Trent doens't fill it up for you and runs it to empty and leaves his poor pregnant partner with a sleeping toddler to do it (sorry Trent - in a bit of a bad mood with partners at the moment).

Fi your birthday sounded great. Well done getting to the gym. You are inspiring me to do something like that. Part of my tiredness is due to being unfit I'm pretty sure so I've got to get off my bum and do something.

We didn't settle Will until 9 last night and then he was up calling out to me again at 12:30 then 4:30. At 12:30 he did feed like he was hungry but he was not really hungry at 4:30 at all which was so annoying. He fed but it was really jiust a comfort suck. I'm pretty sure these 3 - 4 hour wake ups are now becoming a pattern. I think we are going to have to book a couple of nights for Paddy to stay with my parents and break this pattern. I know he is going to scream the house down but we have been through that with teaching him to self settle so I am fine with that. I would start it tonight if Paddy wasn't in the same room but we just can't do it and have them both awake and upset. I will battle on with these stupid wake ups for a bit longer but not for long I don't think.

Dean's Mum just rang to organise for us to go over for afternoon tea which I said we would but I am now thinking I might just send Dean and the boys. I am in dire need of some time on my own and an afternoon nap is an appealing thought.

Hope everyone is well and I will chat soon.

[Wivi]

Fi - happy birthday for yesterday! You sounded like you had such a lovely day. One of our close friends had her birthday yesterday too - she is the exact same age as you. We had dinner out with them last night and had a really great evening. It was probably the last time we can use our babysitter as they move in 2 weeks so I was making sure to take full advantage of it!

Cath - :hugs::hugs::hugs: I think men really just have no idea at times. It was very interesting a little while ago when I went to a conference for a day and Troy looked after Will all day. A few days later I overheard him telling someone how full on it really was and I think that was a bit of a breakthrough for me. Unfortunately I don't think it has lasted - he is constantly telling me how he looks after Will a lot (he does in comparison to other dads I guess) and how Will isn't a problem. I never said he was a problem - it's just very tiring! I really feel for your situation though, I guess at times you would almost feel like a single mum right? Is there some way you can come to an arrangement with Dean that one afternoon/morning/evening a week you can go out and do your own thing for a few hours? You know -use that time for whatever you want - coffee with friends, movies, wandering the shops, anything? I think I would be inclined to see if you could also come up with an arrangement with someone like yours or Dean's parent's to mind the boys one night on a regular basis (even once a month) so that you and Dean can go out together. It has been so great the past year being able to go out regularly with Troy and just be "adults" together. Also - have you read that book called the "post baby conversation"? It's fantastic and I have a copy of it. It really helps put some of your thoughts and feelings into perspective, and if you could get Dean to read even a bit of it, it may help him to understand a bit more. Sorry to really go on about this but it is something I am quite passionate about and it really bothers me that people don't recognise what an adjustment it is for Mum's when they have babies. I think there is almost a grieving process that happens - you grieve for your independence and kind of resent your partner for still having theirs. Anyway - if you want to borrow that book, let me know and I'll post it to you.

Lou - glad to hear your Mum and Dad recovered from the gastro bug. Maddi was so funny with that little baby. I think our little toddlers are really at that age where they start to show concern etc. We have had babies crying here before while their parent's were trying to settle them and Will runs to the door of the spare room looking all concerned saying "baby crying!" or "Henri crying!" or whoever. It's very cute.

Hayley - that petrol incident would have really set me off I think. I would have been so angry! First at Trent, how thoughtless of him and then at the servo for the silly policy and it would have just gone on and on and yes - I would have ended up a sobbing mess I am quite sure. Trent owes you big time for that one.

Well - we are having a relatively quiet day today. Will got up with his grumpy pants on - I think he is tired or something. I took him to the shops for a little while this morning and he was really good there but there have been more tears than usual today over silly little things. Mind you - he's just eaten a mini Easter egg (I bought them for Troy as a treat and next minute he is giving Will one) and now Will is looking a lot more energetic.

OK - gotta go - Will needs to go and have a sleep and it's "wee time".

[cath]

Tan I would love to borrow that book. I will send you a PM with my address in case you need it again. Your suggestions are great and the once a month out for dinner with Dean suggestion is exactly what I have said that we need in our conversation last night. He is going to his parents with the boys this afternoon so it will be interesting to see if he comes home with a night out organised. I'm not holding my breath though - I bet he still won't and I'll have to be the one asking him to organise it.

Funny how chocolate can fire them up again isn't it? I hope Will is having a nice big sleep for you.

[MrsMiggins]

I've only got time for a quick post, but I just wanted to give you some of these Hayles: :hugs: :hugs:

And Cath, you too!!! :hugs: :hugs: I don't know if this will make you feel better or not, but as I was reading your post, I could've swapped my name with yours & Dean's with Dave's!! We have this "argument" all the time. It drives me crazy!!! Dave works funny hours, but whenever he's not at work, he's out playing poker. (The tournaments are free & he's quite good at it - he's earned a couple of entries into real $$ tournaments, that the promoters pay for his entry into. If we didn't have kids, I'd be encouraging it, but I think as women, we prioritise things very differently!!!) Whatever I do, I just can't seem to drum it into his head that it is exhausting being on call 24/7 and having to meet the never ending demands of two young children. While I don;t begrudge him his time to himself & his hobbies, I just wish he would understand how difficult it is for me & think that perhaps I would like a break from time to time (without me having to expressly ask weeks in advance & then keep having to remind him constantly about it.) Even when he does come home early, I always feel like I can't just go out & enjoy an hour of grocery shopping with the kids, because I can't stop thinking - what if Owen is chucking a massive wobbly because I'm gone.. etc... So I always just do what I have to do, then quickly race home again.

We have not been out to dinner (or anything else) once on our own since Owen was born, but that's more because I don't feel I can leave him with anyone - especially at night time - until he is a little less dependant on me (and my boobs, more to the point!!)

Until Owen was about 5 months old, I was also in our room on my own (well, with Owen, but Dave was sleeping in the spare room until we moved Claire in there, and then he slept in the lounge room). It does have a big effect on your relationship, I think.

Cath, I really could go on & on about this!! The whole thing is just so complicated!! But I have to run. I just want you to know, you're not alone - I, and likely many thousands of women around the world! know how you are feeling right now.

OK, I really have to run now! Owen is destroying something out in the kitchen!

[Wivi]

Cath - I'll do my best to send you the book early in the week, I'll let you know when I have posted it. I might not be able to get to the post office before Tuesday so we'll see how it goes.

Right now I am actually feeling quite devastated. Troy's sister rang this afternoon and said she was engaged. We have been expecting it for some time and knew there were wedding plans going on in the background - apparently they had just been waiting for the ring. Anyway - the wedding is set for the 26th of April, 2 days before my due date. I know that these things can't be avoided with booking churches and reception venues etc but I am already feeling very sad because the likelihood is that I won't be able to make it and we can only hope that Troy can! The wedding would be about 2 hours away from here and given how fast Will was born I would be a bit nervous about going if the baby wasn't born yet. Oh well - we can only wait and see I guess. Do our best to make sure at least Troy gets there when the time comes!

Well - I'm off to have some lemon meringue pie for dessert, I think I need some comfort food.

[hayleylea]

Hello everyone.

Firstly :hugs:to Cath - Im glad you and Dean had a talk last night though and i hope you managed a relaxing afternoon and i really do hope you manage to get out with Dean sometime soon. Men can be a bit thoughtless and i really dont think they realise sometimes how hard it can be looking after a child 24/7 day after day. Whilst i wouldnt change it for the world it can send you a bit nutty some times!!! (and i only have one - god imagine in a few weeks lol). All the suggestions Tan said sound good to me though. I always find myself getting a bit edgy then Trent and I go out for dinner or something and it really makes you get a new lease on life! Even our trips to sydney is really good when we leave Cooper with mum. It gives us "us" time, time to talk etc etc and me time just to sit there and relax and read a magazine. Oh and Cath i meant to say - how horrible you feel like you and Dean are living seperate lifes! I always joke that when we get out to our house that because we have a spare bedroom trent and i will be in different beds and i would love it - but i know in reality i would hate it! (dont tell him that though!) Deans snoring is a real worry isnt it! I really hope he finds a cure soon!

Tan - OH NO about Troys sisters wedding. Like you said though these things cant really be helped - maybe the baby will come 2 weeks early like Will which would atleast mean that Troy could go to the wedding - i dont know if thats ideal for you or not though! lol. 2 hours away is a pretty long way to risk going 2 days before your due date. Im sure either way your SIL would understand. Hope your enjoying your comfort food!

Fi - You really need to get out too - and Dave needs to treat you like a complete princess. I know Owen may be a little dependent on you right now but even just for a few hours for dinner! Im sure your parents wouldnt mind - does he take a bottle at all - (expressed milk?)...

Lou - beautiful photos! and how cute about Maddi wanting to get the baby a tissue!!AWWW so cute!!!!!

As for me I dont even want to write down how im feeling right now because Im sick of being the whinger and whiner on here who keeps complaining about everything! So ill save your ears and eyes this time around! Nothing to do with the pregnancy - only to do with moving etc etc etc etc lol. Im OK though - just p!ssed off at the world...anyone else have them days?? oh breakthrough though my MIL actually minded Cooper for 4 hours today!! She had no choice. He was being a right little pain in the bum and we were going out to our house and he demanded to stay at grandmas so his bags were packed and he was dumped down there quicker then she could say NO lol. He was good for her though and even had a sleep so thats a bonus.

OK i better go i havent eaten anything for dinner yet.

Talk soon.

[bingo]

Well my parents left at 8am this morning so I've got some time to dedicate to a half decent post and get some personals going.

Hayley, the countdown is certainly on. What is the countdown now? Your caption thingy says 7 weeks but its less than that isn't it? Its not long until you find out if the baby bump is a girl or a boy and until Cooper becomes a big brother. I'm sending you a :hugs: to help you get through the tough days. Its hard enough to deal with the end of your pregnancy let alone dealing with PNG, moving house and trying to get it all finished so you can have some normality. Cooper is coping pretty darn well considering how much change has happened and is about to happen. These toddlers sure love routine, and Maddi is definitely one of them. Take her out of her routine and we pay for it for about a week and its soooo tiring and stressful. So your doing a great job. And if you feel like having a crabby day then crab away. Sometimes all you want to do is sit down in front of a sad movie and cry away alone. Well thats how I feel some days. And afterwards I feel like I just needed it. Although the red rimmed eyes and big puffy bags don't look so good :D. GOod work on getting your MIL to look after Cooper for 4 hours. Make the most of it while your there, even if means you have to dump and run before she can say no. Its good for the both of them to spend some time alone together.
Tan, what a bummer about your SIL's wedding date. Maybe you'll go over your DD and be able to go still? But I guess 2 hours away is a ways to drive when your in labor. Ah geez, if only they could have set the date a couple of months later. Lemon meringue pie sounds so good right now! I can't get over that you don't have long to go with your pregnancy. For some reason it snuck up on me and it just felt like yesterday that you told us you were preg.
Cath, husbands...........what more can I say. Totally understand what you were complaining about and what you were getting at TOTALLY. Sounds like there is more than one DH on here that has the same brick wall in their brain. Tony and I had the very same discussion when we went away for the wedding. I have lots of trouble explaining how I feel and tend to just hold it all in until I explode into a frenzy of tears and garbled words. I tried to explain to him that when you have a small child clawing at you, needing you constantly and demanding your body all the time the last thing you want is a needy husband who wants the very same attention your child does. I don't think men can understand that because the child tends to go to mummy most of the time ect. I'd just love for DH to take control of things once in a while so I can remember who I was before kids and what I actually like to do. That going out to dinner with a toddler is not a pleasant experience, that its actually quite stressful once the attention span is gone and they want out! Anyways, after our weekend away together its been a lot better. We had a good talk about what we were both experiencing and where we wanted to go with our relationship. Best thing we did was to get away from the situation and lay the cards on the table. That book that Tan has offered you sounds unreal, I'm going to go to the library and see if I can find it to have a read too.
Just wanted to let you know Cath your defininitely not alone. Sounds like once we all have kiddies that are not needing booby and we can run away we need to plan that Fiji trip!
Nat, I think my AF returned when Maddi was 8 months about when Maddi stopped BF. I'm not sure how long it takes if you don't BF, it probably takes a while - like 3 months or something like that. Natures way of making sure your body has time to recover from the birth before putting you through it again. How did the wedding go? Did you have a good time?
Fi, your birthday at the ginger farm sounded like heaps of fun. I love ginger too but there's buckleys we'd be able to grow it here. THe icecream flavours you had sounded so yummo. They would be nice for when you've got MS and need some ginger to stop the nausea! ;) Owen is certainly cutting his teeth in an odd pattern isn't he. Poor little guy. Your photo's on facebook are adorable. Owen is starting to look a bit less like Claire me thinks. He looks a bit more subdued than Claire IMO. Claire looks so grown up in her beach outfit and like she should be joining Nippers. Very at home on the beach indeed. I was so envious looking at your photo's how accessible the beach is for you. Me - I live in the desert.

Well I think I've caught up on everyone? I did notice that Anna hasn't posted in a while or Renee. Hope you guys are doing ok? I'm guessing Anna is flat out organising school and getting the kids into a good routine.

[Katcha]

Hiya everyone. Just a quick one from me. There's no way I'm ever going to be able to catch up on all your posts.....I've been so slack not posting I know! Katelyn was a little monster today. She just refused to eat her lunch & just kept being plain naughty & was sent to her cot for punishment.....she ended up falling asleep in it about 2 hours ago & is still asleep yay! The morning sickness hasn't been too bad this week. I now taking the blackmores morning sickness formula & that seems to be helping a bit, although I still feel pretty blah. Hope that's a sign that everything's OK. I have my 1st u/s on Thursday & am really nervous about it. I just want everything to be OK & to be able to see a little blob with a heartbeat. :fingerscrossed: I've only told one person so far that I'm UTD, and that's one of the guys at work. Might tell a couple of other friends after my scan on Thursday it it's all OK.

Lou & Cath, those photos of Maddi & Larissa, & Paddy & Will are just gorgeous!

Lou, great to hear that Maddi's TT is back on track now.

Cath, sorry to hear about you being frustrated with your DH. I hope he helps out a bit more in future & gives you a well-deserved break! And the same with you & your DH, Fi!

Hayley, how are you going? Sorry to hear your m/s has started up again. Oh and I read about your petrol station incident, you poor thing! I think I would have been in tears!

Tan, oh that's such a nuisance about your SIL's wedding being so close to your due date. You'd think they would have made it a month or so later. 2 hours is definitely a long time if you're in labour!

Fi, I hope you had a lovely birthday on Friday.

Nat, in answer to your question before, I only BF for a week while in hospital & my AF came back when Katelyn was just over 2 1/2 months.

Anna, hope your going OK. I imagine you're pretty busy looking after your 4 kidlets!

Well, I guess that didn't turn out to be a quick post after all lol. I better go now, I imagine Katelyn will be waking up soon....she's been asleep now for about 2 1/2 hours! Hope you're all having lovely weekends!

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

The countdown is definatley on - and i really need to change that 7 weeks! With my due dates its anywhere from 2-4 weeks! Im thinking sooner then later though - lots of pressure pains and stuff - but we will soon see! Im feeling really ordinary this afternoon and feel really "heavy" in my stomach - dunno whats with that.

Thanks Lou for saying i can whinge on here anytime i like. I just feel like a total nutcase some days or hours lol. Feel like having a break down but im doing ok. Im actually pretty happy this afternoon because today i went out to our house and put up all Coopers animal stickers so his room is ready for his bed and clothes and its done!!! (oh and of course toys but most of them are out there anyway) Cooper loves it and it made me happy to see him so excited!
Trent also glued the granite bench tops on in the kitchen and they look EXCELLENT!!!!!!

Sorry guys i have to cut this short - im off to the MILS for a bake dinner.

Talk soon.

[hayleylea]

OK back for a sec just wanted to say Renee i hope all goes well in your scan :babydust2: Morning sickness is a good sign (but i do hope that its not too bad for you and goes away quickly!)

Ok im off to lie down, im not long out of bed.

night night.

[bingo]

:laughing:Fi your Av is soooo funny :laughing:!

I took Maddi for her first bubbacino the other day. She LOVED it. Kept saying "this is MY coffee" and wouldn't let anyone help her at all. I wasn't sure if she was more excited about her cino or the marshmallow's though.
bubbacino with mum (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/first_bubbacino3.jpg)
bubbacino (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/first_bubbacino1.jpg)

[hayleylea]

:laughing: I was going to say the same thing Fi! Very funny!

[hayleylea]

Lou - Cute photos!!! love the one of both of you smiling. You look so much alike!!!!

[cath]

Oh Lou those photos are great! Hayley is so right - you and Maddi look so much alike. That Fiji trip is a very appealing thought -we all definitely have to do it in a few years time. Nice to know I am not the only one dealing with "issues" at the moment. What you said about needing Tony to take control sometimes to get you out to remember who you were and what you like to do is exactly what I have been feeling. I used to love going out with Dean (and still do) but we just hardly ever do it anymore and at the moment Dean is the one with more spare time and energy so he needs to take control. I think he understands now and finally told me late yesterday afternoon that he has booked his parents in to babysit next Saturday night and we are going out for dinner:smiliedance: Now I just need to get him doing this on a regular basis.


Hayley you can definitely whinge away anytime on here (look at what I am doing!). How unreal the benchtops are on and Coopers room is ready! Any plans for the official move? What a spin out you only have a couple of weeks to go. Do you feel organised? Is "the bag" packed? Good work with getting your MIL to mind Cooper for 4 hours. Now she has done it once maybe she will be fine to do it on a regular basis now (it would be such a help once the baby arrives).

Renee you did very well catching up on all of the posts! I know it gets a bit out of control in here sometimes. Best of luck for Thursday! I'm sure everything will be fine and it will be a very exciting moment. Hope you are coping okay with the morning sickness -it is quite horrible.

Tan how horrible about the clash of timing for your SIL's wedding! That is so awful. If only they could have waited another month or something. That is very sad and a bit stressful for you. Maybe baby 2 will be an early bird like Will and then you can all go (of course it won't be particularly relaxing but little babies are pretty good in that they eat and sleep mostly). No rush about the book - just whenever you get a chance is fine.

Fi thank you so much for commiserating with me. I totally know what you are saying about the fact that if you had no kids you would be encouraging Dave's poker thing. That's what I was trying to say to Dean about having a drink with his brother. His brother has never asked to have a drink with him before and it was a bit sad that Dean couldn't do it. As you say if we had no kids I would be encouraging it but everything is a whole new ballgame when you have little kids and a tired partner to consider. For now we both (both being the optimal word) have to sacrifice our lives a bit to cater to the needs of our young family but I keep saying in 10 years time (maybe even less hopefully) we will get our lives back a bit. I think the "both" word is the difficult one. There is no doubting that as mothers we sacrifice a great deal of our lives to our young children but fathers don't necessarily have to change that much (but they need to!). It needs to be a partnership where we all sacrifice almost equally then all get our lives back at the same time. I think I am living in fantasy land a bit sadly.

Anyway things are much better here now that Dean has organised a night out and he has also taken today off as a "carers day". He really is good once I get through to him. He is off at mothers group now with Paddy and I have a huge list of housework for him to help me with when he gets home. He is getting this mouthguard on Friday which will apparently fix the snoring and he can return to the bed on Friday night and then with us going out on Saturday night we will finally start feeling a bit like a couple again. It's weird how everything jsut came crashing down on me last week but I am now feeling alot more positive which is good.

Oh my last thing that is making me feel better (well sort of) is that we have booked Paddy in to stay at my parents for Friday and Saturday night in 2 weekends time and we are going to try and sort out Will's overnight wakings. It really is killing me and I just can't cope with being this tired. It is definitely becoming a nasty habit and getting ridiculous. He went to bed at 9:45 last night (after initally being put to bed happily at 6:45 - woke up again at 8) and was then crying out at 12:40, 1:15 (burp from the 12:40 feed) and then 5am. I am getting stupid little snippets of sleep and it is just not enough. I am going to chat to my friend who had to CC her son overnight at 6 months because he had woken up every 1.5 hours since he was born. They took him to a paediatrician who checked him over and said there was nothing wrong and it was behavioural and that "the kitchen had to be closed" overnight and they had to do CC. I'm pretty sure she told me it worked in 3 nights so I'm hoping after 2 he will be well on the way to improving and Paddy can cope with a bit of crying on the 3rd night. I feel a bit unsure about it and it worries me that Will might really be hungry and then it is a bit mean. I have been trying to get as much into him as I can during the day and some days he eats and feeds well other days not so much. I might ring my MCHN about it too. I just don't want to put him throug hit if it is the wrong thing to do. My poor little man! However if he technically doesn't need these feeds overnight and is jsut waking due to habit then I am okay about doing it.

Anyway sorry for the epic post again. Hope everyone is well.

Anna we miss you!!

[Wivi]

:laughing: Fi - love it. So you are a Hugh fan huh?

Lou - Maddi sure looked like she enjoyed her bubbacino! She is such a little girl - she has really girly mannerisms - you can even see them in the photos.

Renee - sorry to hear you are still feeling unwell. I hope your u/s goes well this week. I also hope that Katelyn left her naughty pants in the cot after her sleep yesterday!

Will is very tired and naughty today - well, I think he is tired. He had a very busy day yesterday (we all did). We went to church in the morning and my parents were here when we got home to pick up our old garden shed and pergola and take them back with them to the farm. My Dad also lopped some trees for us. I am pleased to say that Will had a sleep for me even though they were here and he was very excited - he told me he would have a little sleep and sure enough it was only an hour but I was happy that he toddled off to bed at all! IN the afternoon I thought it was too hard to keep him at home while Troy and Dad were chopping and using the chainsaw in the backyard so Mum and I took Will to Ikea. We used to have an Ikea in our local area but it closed a couple of years ago and I went to the new one about 30 minutes drive away. It's enormous! We were in there for 90 minutes and I think we saw a quarter of it. I did get a couple of things like the cot quilt for the baby but I am definitely going back for a few hours another day. Will was really good, I even let him walk around in the kids section and he was hilarious. We had a great afternoon - he didn't want to get back into the pram after the kids area but he was happy to just walk along holding my hand. So we headed home and had fish and chips for dinner (somehow we always have that when my Dad is here. Dad comes and Will says "Ahhh... Chips!). Too funny.

Mum and Dad left last night just before Will went to bed so that all worked out well - he had a good night's sleep. But boy oh boy - is he cranky today! I think he is not happy that Nanny and Poppy are not here, Daddy has gone back to work and there is nothing interesting happening.

OK - better go find him some lunch. Chat later!

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Cath - sounds like you got through to dean - well done!!! Cath as for me being "ready" for the baby?? - hmmmm ready? whats that? Nope i dont think I am at all. But to be honest im so incredibley stuffed and have so much doing on im sure ill be ok, maybe not as ready as id like to be but ready enough! My bag is packed but no doubt i have forgotten something!

Tan - i hope Will wakes up with his happy pants on today!

I just put Cooper to bed and said go to sleep and he told me he isnt having a sleep but said "rest" LMAO god he makes me laugh sometimes. So it will be interesting to see if he has a sleep or not. Last night i was having some really weird pressure pains and had a little bit of dishcharge too :eek:I remember it happening for a couple of weeks before Cooper too though. Im off to the doc tommorrow for my routine visit anyway.

Today im doing nothing. I did some grocery shopping and thats all i plan on doing. I dont care about the dishes or the washing or anything i just want to sit here and do nothing and i think im entittled to that :yes:

Anyway im off to grab something to eat. Talk soon

[Wivi]

:yelclap: Cath! You have made some great progress there with Dean. I hope you can enjoy your night out and organise to do it regularly. I also really hope that the mouthguard thing works for Dean too.

The wedding thing is a real bummer but by the time I woke up yesterday I was pretty accepting of the situation, we'll just work around it as best we can. We are hoping (got no idea though) that it is a lunchtime/afternoon reception as that would probably be our best scenario as I don't want to be sleeping overnight somewhere else if the baby hasn't come or if I've only just come out of hospital. Other than that - we can manage it all ok.

Oh Cath - as far as the CC thing goes you may be pleasantly surprised. I know a number of people who only had to do it for one night before it was sorted, especially with a baby who can self settle to sleep in the first place as your Will does. That first night can be quite stressful though, I wish you all the best with it!

[hayleylea]

Tan - Sounds like you have a plan for the wedding. Hopefully it is a day time thing like you said :D

Cath - goodluck with the whole CC thing while Paddy is away. I hope it all works out for you!

Not much doing here today. Im soooooo tired. Trent went out to our house last night to cut out the bench tops to put the sink etc in. And he didnt get home till much later then he said he would be which is fine but no phone call or anything :mad: So i was worried he had hit a kangaroo or something. I rang our house out there at 9.45 and there was no answer - but he obvoiusly had some tools going and didnt hear the phone each time I rang. So he got home after 11 oclock then it took me forever to get to sleep! I was in such a nice sleep too and at 7.30 this morning Cooper was yelling out "Muuuuuuuuuummmmyyyyyy Up" lol so cute! So im sitting here trying to keep my eyes open while he is full of beans! I am half thinking about getting us ready and heading to the park this morning - it wont be happening much when the baby comes along and we havent done it for so long. Something special we can do anyway! (that is if lazy mummy gets off her bum this morning and wakes up lol)

Hope all is well with everyone.

[cath]

Hi again,
Tan I love the "aah chips" thing with Will and your Dad - hilarious! They have funny little associations don't they? Paddy is the same with my Mum and icecream. Every time he goes there they go to the park and get a dixie icecream (which he calls a "****y") so whenever he sees Mum the word icecream or "****y" is mentioned within the first couple of minutes. The Ikea stores can be crazy! Will would have loved the kids bit - they are always good.

Hayley I am feeling a bit lazy today too and am trying to get myself out the door and take the boys to the park too (looks like it is going rain soon and Will is now asleep but will give it a go when he wakes up). How cool that he benchtops are done. You poor thing worrying about Trent and then not sleeping. Hopefully Cooper has a big sleep for you today and you can get some rest too. Good luck with the Dr's appointment. Sounds like things are starting to happen - how exciting! I can't wait to hear if your little baby is a boy or a girl.

Anyway I'd better go and play with poor Paddy who had to pretty much entertain himself yesterday afternoon while we got on top of the stupid housework. Chat soon.

ETA: Oh how funny - it has blocked out my dic*y word - I'm sure you can work out what the star should be

[cath]

Checkout Paddy's new toy. He was bored with all his toys and I was trying to think of something to do and got him to "help me" put some buttons away. He is loving the jar of buttons and is sorting them all into different cups. It has been keeping him entertained for a good 30 minutes or so. Just have to make sure Will can't get to them. I'm pretty sure Paddy is beyond the putting them in his mouth stage but am watching him too.

Paddy's new toy (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_5727.jpg)

[Wivi]

Oh Cath - Paddy looks like he had a ball with the buttons. I should try that one, Will was doing something similar with a jar of coins in our kitchen the other day.

The excavator is here today (thank goodness Will has been at daycare because we now have no driveway and no steps to the side entrance of our house (where we usually go in and out). They are supposed to come back again tomorrow, but it is looking like it will rain again so I have my doubts. Oh this awful weather!

Hayley and Cath - did you get your boys off to the park ok? If so I hope you all had a good time, a trip to the park sounds good. I think Will needs one of those - but it hasn't stopped raining long enough to actually go lately!

Cath - I apologise, I haven't had a chance to post that book yet. I will do it this week - sometime!

OK gotta go, have a little bit more time before Will comes back to do something constructive.

[nkenward]

Hey there all. Both boys are asleep again together - yippee - so thought I would pop in quickly.

The wedding went well - a little boring - but ok. They had a church service (not that there attended church), not that i have anything against religion - each to there own - but I found it a bit rude when the reverent said that because they were getting married in the house of god their marriage would succeed. Um..too bad for those that choose a different venue like the beach or a garden. The reception was nice, it was held at the bride's parents house - very architecturally grand - just like a resort. The meal was a bit strange too - I had zucchini flowers for entree and salmon on beetroot risotto for mean. Oh and tira amsu which had a weird paper like texture in it.
And as for the AF - got it the night before the wedding - bummer!!! But a relief all the same.

Hayley - glad to hear the house is almost complete. I bet you can't wait to be in your own home. I bet Cooper can't wait. And the count down has definitely begun. I can't believe how fast the last 12 months has gone.

Cath - Well done on getting through to Dean. The boys definitely need things spelt out to them - they do want to do the right them - but they just can't seem to see 10 steps in front of them without us directing them. What on earth would they do with out us!!! Good luck with Will sleeping through and with the CC, Connor was the same - in the end we just shut all the doors and let him go - eventually he settled. But now he is in a big bed - he just comes into us and goes back to sleep. If it is during the night we will carry him back - but as long as he goes back to sleep - I dont mind too much - it doesn't last forever.

Renee - good luck with the u/s. I am sure everything will be ok.

Lou - I agree with Tan - Maddi definitely is a real little girl. She is gorgeous with hey babycino.

Tan - glad to hear all is going well with you. I agree with the kids getting weird associations with grandparents. They are definitely getting to an age that they don't miss a thing. And they really know how to play them to their advantage. Connor loves trains, planes and ice-cream. When he is with Grandma - she takes him to the train station to watch trains for hours. It has gotten to the point that she can't do anything else with him - until he has seen a train.

Anyway must go - while the boys are asleep I am back on the jewelery making venture. I went quiet on it for awhile as I could only find the time at night - and by 9pm I am stuffed. But the boys are sleeping really well and are both in bed by 8:30. So I can't complain too much. Aidan is doing a lot better now and is sleeping a bit more consistently. He is waking up once during the night and occassionally twice, but I will see how he goes in a month - I may have to introduce solids a little earlier - he is a rather tall boy and milk I don't think is enough.

[MrsMiggins]

Hi all! Just popping in to let you know I haven't fallen off the face of the earth!! (Just been in jail with Hugh there ^^ ;) I see you liked that one Lou? :laughing:)

It is just pouring rain here today (just for something different :rolleyes:) I had to go out this morning to get a few things & got caught in a massive downpour getting back to my car. You should see my hair now!! OMG!! :NO:

Having a great one!! Owen had a 20 min sleep, and that will be it for him for the rest of the day. Now Claire's asleep, but I can't let her sleep too long. Just as I got Owen down & was about to put her down, a friend showed up with her son & nephew to play with the kids! It was a communication mix-up - I thought she was coming in the afternoon! Bit of a bugger, but oh well! It was nice having a cuppa & a chat with her (and the two boys are just gorgeous, lovely boys!)

Sorry for no personals! I've got to try & get some laundry done (and have to put it in the dryer now thanks to the rain!! :mad:) & make an attempt to distract Owen somehow to enable me to get it done!

(Cath, just had to say, I checked out your photo & what a great idea!!! Wish I could do something like that with Claire. She helps my mum sort out a collection of sea shells into "small" "middle-sized" & "big" and she just loves it!! I can't get anything like that happening at home though, because Owen would just put them straight in his mouth!)

[hayleylea]

hey guys

no personals here - i have had a STRESSFULL day. Went to the doctor at 10.30 only to be told by the doctor that he was really worried about the size of the baby :( So i went into a frantic fit cause the doctor told me he wanted me to have an ultrasound ASAP. So i rang up the hospital to get in there - no luck. Rang up the radiology place and they said i wouldnt be able to get into next week and i explained that I was 37 weeks pregnant and i needed to get seen too and I got an appointment at 3.30 today. I rang Trent in tears and he came straight home trying to reassure me everything was alright. Ended up taking me for a drive to get my mind off things (and to get cooper to have a little sleep before the ultrasound).

Anyway had the ultrasound and everything is FINE! the baby is a BIG baby with heaps of fat rolls :laughing: Hahahaha im not kidding you should see the fat rolls. Its head is measuring bigger then 37 weeks but so did Coopers (OUCH). Everything else is measuring fine and it put my due date as the 25th of feb. So what a bl00dy relilef. I had the same thing happen with Cooper but it still didnt prepare me for the stress and worry that i had with this!!!!!!!! I feel much better. Didnt get to see a great deal because he or she is pretty cramped in there - and its head is down and not facing us. Doesnt matter im sure we will get a look at the little one soon enough.

So now i can relax!

Sorry again for no personals!

[Wivi]

Hayley - that's just bizarre about the doctor being worried about the size of the baby. Was he worried that it was too small or too big? You only went the other week - seems odd that he had a big tizz about it, all that stress on you. I'm glad everything was ok - lol that the baby has fat rolls. I can just imagine that mine will have long skinny arms and legs with no fat rolls at all - that's what Will was like! Fat rolls would be cute.

Nice to hear from you again Nat! It sounds as though things are starting to settle down quite well at your place. Aidan looks like such a cutie in your Av. As for the wedding, it sounds a bit weird. I actually do go to church and I resent what that minister said in the service. I don't think he thought about it very much at all. And yes - what weird food!

Fi - ah yes. Rain. Do you think some of it could find it's way to the WEST coast of Australia? It continues to be wet here too. I am so over it. I totally understand about the hair thing too - I look like someone with a terrible 80's perm lately! :hair: I hope you made it through the day ok with Owen only having 20 minutes sleep! Man - that seems so little. Your kids are like energiser bunnies.

Will is very excited that there is 2 "diggers" in our driveway - cause the guys will be back again tomorrow. He thinks he is living on some Bob the Builder show lately and I guess it probably is! (Except the builder's name is Warren and he doesn't wear a hat. Will asks where Warren's hat is every time he comes!) It will be interesting to see if Will has a sleep tomorrow - there will be a lot of action going on right outside his window. Although I am absolutely amazed - Will had a 45 sleep at daycare today. Apparently he asked to go to sleep before lunch and hopped in his pram and went off to sleep straight away. I had been thinking that if he didn't have a sleep today then I wouldn't bother taking the pram anymore (last week and the week before he had a "rest" and maybe some minute sleep time - and then I get there today and he has had a 45 minute sleep! Mind you - he has been very tired this afternoon since he has been home. Troy and I thought he was going to fall asleep having a drink on the lounge!

Hm - Will seems to only drink things that come out of the fridge. He rarely drinks water if it is straight from the tap but he will drink it if it comes out of the bottle in the fridge. He loves, and I mean loves, sparkling mineral water. The plain stuff. He calls it "fizzy" and asks for it everyday. We've checked it out - there's absolutely nothing in it so it doesn't matter if he has it but I tell him he can't have it until the afternoon. Oh - and since he was sick that time he has discovered juice. Watered down to next to nothing of course but I let him have some at breakfast. I guess the good bit is that he will drink things now but I feel like I have all these rules! Oh man - it was so easy when he just drank water and happily!

Anyway - I had better go. I have a meeting to go to tonight and Will is currently in the bath and I think it won't be long til he asks to go to bed!

[hayleylea]

Tan - the doctor was worried the baby was too small!!!!!!! I too thought it was a bit strange considering i only saw him a week ago! But he just thought it was measuring pretty small of a sudden. Not happy with him at all putting me under all that stress!!!!!!!! The same thing happened with Cooper at 37 weeks! and he was hardly small either. They actually told me the baby is measuring at 8pound12ounces!!!!!!!!!!! :hair::eek: Mind you they told me Cooper was close to that too and he was 8pound1 and born 4 weeks after the ultrasound. So who knows....lol. But yep he or she is healthy with fat rolls. The lady had a giggle because of the fact the doctor said it was going to be a little baby and heres it is with cute little fat rolls.

Nat - im so glad things are on the up for Aiden and he is sleeping better. And id love to see some pics of your jewellery too! i was into jewellery making for awhile too, but once i had Cooper it kinda fizzled out!

Cath - what a fantastic toy!

Anyway i know my personals were pretty Cr@p once again but im exhausted!

talk soon

[cath]

Oh Hayley you poor thing! How awful to be stressed out like that when the baby is absolutely fine. How cute he/she already has fat rolls -love it!

Tan that is so funny that Will gets in his pram and has a sleep. I can just imagine Paddy worrying about Warren's hat too. Paddy has a hat obsession and when we were out at the park today (we made it and I even took them to a "new park" -Paddy was so excited) he refused to give me his hat even though it was way too windy for his hat to stay on and the sun had disappeared. I just kept hearing "oh no hat" every minute and had Paddy scurrying around after his hat most of the time.

Fi I hope Owen is fast asleep for you now. That is a long day. Will is going to be exactly the same once he is on the move and the button activity will have to be shelved for a while.

Nat great to hear from you. Good work with the jewellery. I love your avatar of Aidan -he is so cute! How unreal that he is sleeping pretty well for you.

For the 4th night in a row Will is out here with us. He went happily to bed again at 6:45 but was awake half an hour later and we could not resettle him so he is up. I don't know why we don't get these babies who like to sleep. I would so love a baby who went to bed at the same time most nights and had some sort of regular pattern. Will has been all over the shop for 2 months and Paddy was the same. I am definitely going to stick to 3 kids after going through these sleep dramas and am even thinking about waiting another 6 months before TTC number 3 at the moment. It is so tiring! Oh well -it won't be forever but it really is so annoying sometimes.

Anyway I'm off to find some chocolate.

[hayleylea]

Cath - yeah i was pretty annoyed I went through all that stress for nothing. And the fact i had to pay 185 (only got 85 back) for the ultrasound that didnt really need to be done. But i guess as they say its better to be safe then sorry but still it is kinda annoying! This bubba is going to be one big bubba i reckon :laughing:The head is already the size of a 40 week old fetus - not sure if i mentioned that last time lol. Coopers was big too though.

Anyway mum is coming up today and she is going to help pack away some stuff at our new house while i take it easy.

I better go start getting stuff organised.

[Wivi]

Hello again.

It is mud and dirt city here. I am finding this excavating very stressful. Apparently we have very soft soil that has quite a bit of sand in it and it's causing dramas for the excavators. They will need to lay road base before they can concrete. They are now moving loads of the dirt into our backyard (to level the yard later) and destroying our lawn in the process. I don't know what we are going to do with Will at all - he literally cannot go outside here at the moment. Oh man - I am very stressed (in case you haven't already guessed).

Goodness Cath - what is going on with your Will? Is he sleeping too much in the afternoon? That's the only thing I can think of. My Will did the wake up thing a few times after he slept too long in the afternoon at that age but that's probably not very helpful.

Paddy sounded like he had fun at the park - even if he was chasing his hat most of the time. Will does that too - he is pretty funny about hats.

Hayles - I hope you had a good night's sleep and are having a restful day today. It sounds like things are really not very far away - both with the baby and the move. How exciting!


Well - I had better go. I think I need to go away from this room before I start to cry about the mess our yard is in. The next couple of months are going to be very long I think.

[cath]

Utrasounds are pretty expensive these days aren't they Hayley? I really noticed that everything was much more expensive when I had Will than when I had Paddy and that was hardly a long time between pregnancies. Going through the private system is not cheap! As you say though it is all worth it to have a healthy baby. You can't put a price on a being lucky enough to have a healthy child.

Tan unfortunately it is not as simple as Will sleeping too long in the afternoon. He only had a 15 minute nap in the car yesterday afternoon and was totally ready for bed at 6:30. He woke up 30 minutes after going to bed because he had a stuck burp which was obviously casuing him some grief but then he would not go back to sleep (we let him cry for ages until it really got too much for poor Paddy who was trying to sleep). I think he is just not a great sleeper. He is not terrible but he is far from good at this stage too. I'm putting my order in now for baby 3 to be one of those "good ones" -not liking my chances with the pattern that seems to be occurring with these 2 boys. However at least Paddy is now a fantastic sleeper at night so that gives me hope that it is only for this baby stage which is pretty short lived thank goodness.

You poor thing with all that mess. I know all about it after renovating here. It will all be over one day for you and things will return to normal.

Okay I have a tired little baby here who did not get enough sleep last night so better try and get him down for a nap. Caht soon.

[Wivi]

OK - I have recovered from my little meltdown. I think it was just because I didn't expect them to make a mess in the backyard. As it is, it seems it will all work out as Troy has now decided we can afford to level our backyard with the excess dirt and get new turf laid (which we had originally planned to do in the future). As for the mess he pointed out that Will can just play in the dirt and we'll just wash him off afterwards. It shouldn't really be for too long anyway.

Well, I have absolutely no idea how with all the noise that is going on here but Will did go to sleep and he is still asleep now. He is incredible like that. I am so shocked.

Cath - please don't think you just have bad sleepers, I am sure it will all settle down again soon. Will has had periods of being excellent so hang on to that and know that things will change soon enough. I swear it is the hardest part of being a parent - babies being awake when they should be asleep!

[Katcha]

Hi all, hope everyone's well. Things aren't so great with me though. I've had a bit of light bleeding yesterday morning & this morning. Haven't been to the doctor because I figure I've got my u/s tomorrow & there's nothing they could do anyway.
Also Katelyn was sick last night. She came home from day care with a really high temp. We called in a locum docter to check her out & turns out she's got a nice inflamed throat, poor thing. So she's got the rest of the week off from day care & James is staying home to look after her. Although I spoke to James not long ago & he said she's been playing with her toys & her temps come down, so sounds like she's gettign better. We're still taking her to the dr tomorrow though cos the dr last night siad it would be a good idea just to get her checked out in a couple of days.
Anyway, sorry for the lack of personals....I'm at work so should get back to it.

[MrsMiggins]

Phew Hayley!!! What a relief you were able to get an U/S and that everything was OK! :hugs: Not good about the stress though.

Tan, IKWYM! I think I would hate that too - about the excavating. But as you said, I'm sure Will will have a ball playing in all the dirt & mud. Just have to hose him down occasionally!

Cath, :hugs: on the sleep thing!! It's so stressful, isn't it? I'm hoping they'll sort themselves out very soon. I agree with Tan, it's all a series of stages they go through.

Sorry to be so brief, but I just had to pop in & let you all know my big, BIG news!!! Well, after yesterday's sleep debacle, Owen got all tired & cranky around 3, so I figured I'd just let him sleep for a little while. Then, after putting it off & putting it off, decided around 5pm to go wake him up. But then I figured - ah well! It's late now anyway, so regardless now of what time he wakes up, I'm in for a difficult night anyway, may as well just give myself a break & let him sleep. He slept until 7.30pm!!! I was thinking OMG, I'm in for it now!! But we let them both play for a while after dinner, instead of just going straight into the bath, like they normally do. Then about 9pm, I bathed them & started getting them ready for bed. Claire'd had a big, late sleep too, so I was also worried about how she'd go, but she was out like a light by 9.45 & Owen was asleep at 9.30 & slept thru til 7.10am!!!!! :smiliedance: OWEN FINALLY SLEPT THROUGH THE NIGHT!!!!!! :smiliedance:

I can't tell you how happy I am about it!!! I guess I'm not expecting it to be a permanent thing now (although it'd be nice!! :D) but at least I know now he has it in him!!!

(Sorry Cath, I don't mean to be insensitive!)

Oh Renee, we posted at the same time!

I'm sorry to hear about your bleeding :hugs: The fact that it's only light bleeding though is a good sign. Keep positive! I'll be thinking good thoughts for you. Sorry to hear that Katelyn isn't well. Good news that her temp is down, so with any luck she's feeling better. I hope your scan goes well tomorrow! Sending you all my best wishes!

[cath]

Oh Renee you poor thing. It all might be fine. I bled in the early weeks with my pregnancy with Paddy and it was fine but it certainly freaked me out after miscarrying before him. I am thinking of you. Best of luck! Hope poor little Katelyn is okay.

Fi a big yay for Owen!!:smiliedance: You are not being insensitive at all. I love hearing about babies sleeping through the night -gives me hope:laughing: I hope you slept well. Lets hope this is the start of a new pattern for you.

Tan that's a bit of a bonus in the end about levelling the yard and getting new turf - excellent!

[MrsMiggins]

I'm glad it gives you hope, Cath!! But my hope for you is that your little monkey sleeps thru well before my little monkey did!!! :laughing:

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Tan - nice new level yard with turf sounds great and in the meantime im sure Will will have a ball with the dirt (cooper loves dirt!!!)

Cath - I hope Will starts sleeping better for you. Its hard when they dont isnt it!? Cooper went through phases but i was pretty lucky with him - but there were months etc that he went through waking up alot and it is really hard work!!! You deserve to get that order for baby number 3!!

Renee :hugs: Im sending lots of positive thoughts your way and i really hope everything is OK. Try not to stress out too much (or work too hard!!! Take it easy!) Bleeding can be normal and if its light thats not so bad...i have my fingers crossed for you, i really hope everything is ok. Im thinking of you.

Well i had to ring the doctor for the ultrasound results today - he was a little embarrased and apologised and told me that the baby infact is measuring at 38 weeks.

My mum come up today and we spent the day at my house packing away some stuff and just doing some cleaning. I didnt do a great deal because my mum wouldnt let me :p but we got a bit done and thats the main thing. IM actually really suprised at myself i have suddenly stopped stressing about moving etc and i really couldnt give a hoot about anything. lol. I figure what will be what will be - with the move and the baby and i know ill be fine either way! Cooper was an angel. He was getting tired - he was awake from 4-5 this morning playing in his bed and yelling out to me!!!! i went in at 5 and put him into bed with me but we got up at 8 but he didnt go to sleep till about 6 lol. So he was pretty tired but was sooo good all day. Had a few "rests" on the lounge watching his dvd player but didnt have a sleep. Tried to sleep in the car at 4 but i made mum keep him awake so he will be in bed early tonight! :smiliedance:

Fi - WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO about Owen sleeping through!!! Thats EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!! I hope its the start of a new routine - that would be great. If not - oh well atleast you got one good night!! You deserve it!!!

Anyway im off to start getting dinner ready. An early one tonight because bugalugs will be asleep early. We are having Nachos again (:o its one of my favourites at the moment lol incase you havent noticed...ah well not much food tastes good to me right now so i gotta eat something that i like :laughing:)

[MrsMiggins]

Hayles, that's awesome that your mum came to help out & that she wouldn't let you do anything!! :D

Great too that you're not stressing so much any more. Maybe you're calming down into "get ready for baby" mode?!!

I'm glad the U'S place rang you! So they should be embarrassed!!

Now, I just have to tell you guys this!!! It was so funny!!!!!

I'm forever telling Claire that she's not allowed to eat rubbish. She's always wanting a chocolate or a bikkie or whatever & I say to her "You're not having rubbish, have something healthy"

Just a moment ago, I was sitting here at the computer & listening to Claire rummage through the pantry. After a little while she comes running in to me; "Mummy! Mummy! I want some rubbish please!" :laughing::laughing::laughing: I couldn't help but laugh!!! She got a little packet of Smarties out of it anyway!!

Ugh! Gotta go!! owen's just tipped half a box of sultanas all over the floor! (At least he was having something healthy!!)

[hayleylea]

:laughing::laughing:about Claire Fi - gee she is a character!! Thats so funny!!!!!!!!

Cooper has a second lease of life and is outside playing with the dogs. He has insisted i close the door so god knows what mischief he is up to i yell out to every minute or 2 and say are you alright and he says YEEEEAAAAHHHH!! :laughing: i can see him out the window but he tells me to go away if he catches me lol..

I am in the middle of cooking our dinner - suddenly made me realise why my baby has fat rolls - probably cause mummy is addicted to nachos LMAO!!! Ah well!

[Wivi]

Just a quick one from me.

Renee - I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. I hope your scan goes ok. I know there can be a multitude of reasons for bleeding early in pregnancy so I'll think some positive thoughts for you!

Fi - that's so great that Owen slept through for you. Here's hoping he will continue to do it for you. I guess the main thing is that you know there is light at the end of the tunnel! Oh and lol at Claire and her "rubbish" - she is way too clever!

Hayley - glad you had a good day with your Mum, I hope you rested up and let her chase Cooper around! Nachos - don't they give you heartburn? Or don't you have that when you are PG?

Ok gotta go. Chat more later - seeya!:wave:

[hayleylea]

Tan - you know how much of a Clean freak Cooper is from our chats - so mum didnt have to run around after him much - he just had a cloth in hand and was "cleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeanin'" - he was very well behaved. As for heart burn. I did get it a tiny bit in this pregnancy but not now...and i didnt get it at all with Cooper (im surpised because i get every other bad symptom :laughing:).

The sun is shinging today. Cooper did a good sleep last night 6.30- 7.30 so i was happy with that. Not sure what we are up to today...might hit the park since the weather was too miserable the other day to go...

Have a nice day everyone.:flowerz:

Renee im thinking about you :babydust2::fingerscrossed:

[bingo]

Quick post from me to wish Renee luck today with your scan and sending you lots and lots of:goodvibes:. I can't imagine how anxious you must be today.

Maddi's been up all night with a horrid cough and ended up sleeping in our bed just so I could get some sleep. The night before she was up and down all night and I only got 5 hours so I am feeling very flat and low today.

[hayleylea]

Poor Maddi!! I hope she gets better soon and you both manage to get a sleep today Lou!!!

Cooper and I just got home from the park. I took him to the the park with play equipment first and i pulled into the car park and he started yelling at me No, Go , I dont want too! :laughing: So i said what you want to go to the ducky park and he said YESSSS!! with the biggest smile so we went to the duck park instead. I took his little bike with him - just the trike that he uses his feet to push it. He had an absolute ball!!! he rode around for the whole hour looking at the ducks and he was so adorable with them! It was a really nice morning and i got lots of cuddles too!! I plan on doing it again before the baby comes :D

Im hoping his busy morning has worn him out forasleep. He has already had his lunch cause he was hungry when we got home lol. his watching a movie now and then off to snooze land hopefully!

anyway im off. ill talk soon...

ETA: Coopers website was updated today too. Ive been a bit slack with it latley!

[bingo]

The photo's at the park look great Hayley. And it sounded like a really fun way to spend the morning. Sounds like your getting very ready for the baby to arrive which could be any day now by the sounds of things. That doctor was pretty darn wrong about how big your baby is. Oh well at least you got to have another sneak peak at him/her in the meantime.
Wonder how Renee went today? Been thinking of her all day.
Fi, thats great that Owen slept through on Wednesday night. :yelclap:now you just need to convince him that its a good thing to do every night! I laughed so hard at Claire asking for rubbish to eat.
Tan, oh I'm so jealous that your getting turf laid. Can you guys water turf with town water or do you have to use rainwater? We're on level 3 restrictions so no watering of lawn for anyone unless its recycled or collected from the sky. Its very depressing and Maddi now finds grass a novelty.
Cath, how are you going? Is it this weekend that your concentrating on getting Will to sleep through the night and to self settle. Good luck with it all. I know how tough it can be. If you find you need some support jump onto MSN and look up one of use girls. I think I spoke to Anna one night while I was doing it with Maddi and it helped heaps. Also is Saturday night your night out? Hope you have a great night out and relax and get to remember what its like to eat out without kids!
Well Maddi had a day sleep and I did too, but she only slept for half an hour then the coughing started. Poor thing is so tired too. I've started her on the bisolven to try and help it out but I predict another **** night ahead. :dizzy:
We made some banana and white chocolate cupcakes today which are quite yum. But a bit damp IYKWIM. I think the banana's were too soggy as I had them frozen in the freezer. Ah well, we seem to have eaten quite a few already. A very lazy day in for us two girls.

[hayleylea]

yeah lou it was a fantastic morning. We havent done something like that for ages and i really enjoyed it. I think i mentioned i have a new lease on life at the moment. A pretty care free attitude - which im loving. Its more like whatever happens happens. Im ready for the baby either way. And i just want to not stress about anything - house work - png - labour or anything so im pretty much just going to take each day as it comes playinig with my little man and just relaxing! :D Im pretty darn happy right about now too - for the first time in a looooooonnnnggg time im actually excited about this baby!!! Its great!

Coopers right now outside playing - he is so cute he is out there talking to himself and the dogs. Its just adorable!!!!!

im cooking a roast lamb tonight for valentines day lol. Trents favourite. I didnt buy him anything cause its a waste of money getting him anything so i thought id just make a nice dinner!

We made Trents mum a collage today for Valantines day. Its pretty cute. We stuck rose petals and flowers and grass and whatever else we could find. Then he wanted to make one for the old lady next door so we did that too so he is waiting for Grandma to come home so he can give it to her then go to pats and give her hers. He is sucha little sweetie. He will be a heartbreaker I reckon lol. ACtually more likely to get his heart broken!

Anyway better go check on bugalugs his gone quiet all of a sudden

talk soon

[cath]

Renee I have been thinking of you today. Hope you are doing okay.

Lou we are doing the overnight CC thing not this weekend but the next while Paddy stays with my parents. This Saturday night is the night we get to go out for dinner and have some sort of life. Poor Maddi and her cough (and poor you with not much rest). I hope you have a better night tonight.

Hayley I checked out your photos - they look great! Looks like you had a really nice day and well done with just going with the flow. Everything will be fine and it is all getting very exciting now!

Anyway have to go and help with dinner preparations. Will check in again soon.

[Wivi]

Hello all,

Renee I have been thinking of you today as well. I hope all is ok and you are now having a relaxing afternoon (I know it is only 5pm there).

Hayley - you sound like you had a great time at the park today. Take advantage of any nice days you can get I think!

Lou - poor Maddi and her cough! Poor you as well. You can really tell when daycare goes back can't you? Look at all the germs they pick up again. I hope you all get a better night's sleep tonight.

Will has been quite naughty the past couple of days. Even though he has been good about all the noise and the renos etc I think it has unsettled him a bit. We are planning on going to the Farm tomorrow for the weekend so that he can have some fun running around outside etc. I don't think it has been much fun here this week for him. Tomorrow and over the weekend the plumber, the pest guy and the electrician come as well as the excavator guys so it will be a busy weekend at our place. Because of our weird soil they have now dug so deep where our driveway was that we will now need a retaining wall. Everytime I feel stressed about the money though - Troy tells me it's all going to be ok. I guess he is the accountant so I can probably safely take his word for it. I think it will be good to go away for the weekend though - we are not 100% sure we are going yet but hopefully!

OK - I'm stuffed and I need to do some work stuff before I go to bed tonight.

Chat more later.

[Katcha]

Evening all. Just popping in to say all went well with the scan....there was a little blob with a nice strong heartbeat! :smiliedance: Also, I didn't bleed at all today, so hopefully it stays that way & I don't get anymore nasty scares. Anyhoo, according to the scan I'm 8 weeks tomorrow, which is 1 day further ahead than I thought....but I guess that just means I'm due the day before the AFL GF, not on the actual day.
Anyway, I better go, hope everyone else is well. :)

[cath]

:smiliedance: Great to hear Renee! I am so relieved for you. Don't you just love seeing that heartbeat.

Tan hope you get to the farm - sounds like it is exactly what is needed with the chaos going on at your place.

[Wivi]

:yelclap: Renee! So glad everything was ok for your scan. I hope you had a lovely night's sleep after that.

Grrr - Will was awake at 6:15 this morning! It has been steadily getting earlier and earlier this week which probably explains the big day sleeps he has been having. I'm still using the "it's too early to come out" argument and giving him books to read but it had better not get much earlier! Oh well - just one of those weeks I guess.

OK - obviously nothing to report here - too early in the morning!

Fi - how's Owen's sleeping? Has he slept through again for you?

[hayleylea]

Renee - So glad to hear everything went well at the scan!!!! Very happy for you guys!!!! :smiliedance:

Tan - Cooper was awake at 6.30 this morning too!! I didnt get him up till 7 though lol.

Trents taking Cooper out to our house today and giving me a bit of a rest ill go out later.

Anyway have a great friday everyone.

[MrsMiggins]

Renee!!! I'm so glad everything went well for you yesterday!! :smiliedance: That's wonderful!! And good news too that you're no longer due on GF day!! :laughing: Although I guess the day after, rather than the day before would've been even better!! Oh well, perhaps you'll go the day after anyway!

Tan, a trip out to the farm sounds like just the thing! I bet Will would just love it right now. It's so hard to deal with a naughty, willful toddler when you're pregnant! It'll give you a nice break too. :yes:

Hayles, your trip to the park sounded nice! Those collages were a great idea! How nice that you are getting a relaxing day today too! Just what you need! I'm so glad you're getting excited about the baby coming - not long to go now!!!

Lou, did you get the snow globes I sent you on Facebook? I found just the one for Maddi after her babycino the other day (cute photos!!!) so I had to send that, and then I saw a perfect one for you too! YUMMO- banana & white choc muffins!!! How did Maddi go last night? I hope her cough has cleared up.

I miss you guys so much on msn!! :( Can't wait til we get our new laptops - you'll never get me off the computer then!!!

Owen hasn't managed to sleep through again, unfortunately. But I have high hopes now that he's done it once, he'll be on the improve. Can only hope, hey!!

Oh, and he got another molar! Poor kid - no wonder he's been so cranky! Claire's been a right little crank-pot lately too... I wonder if her 2-yr molars are finally on their way? She was telling me that her teeth were hurting, but I think that was only because she's been mothering Owen a bit & saying "Awww, are your teeth hurting mate? Want something to chew on?" "Mummy, Owen's cranky because his teeth are hurting!" (cute!!)

*sigh!* Who knows??!

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Well im still all alone! :smiliedance: i just had a nice lunch, i went down the street and did what i needed to do. I got Cooper some long pant pjs because itsgetting quite cool here of a night and he is a bit of a shocker keeping the blankets on. He still fits in his last year ones but i needed a spare pair. So he will be happy because they have RAAAAAAAAAAAAAA's on them (he loves dinosaurs! and thats what he calls them). Did a whole lot of grocery shopping so i dont have to go down the street for AGES - and just incase i go into labour so Trent has something to feed Cooper lol.

No im just waiting for the load of washing to finish. im washing Coopers fave blanket - its hard to get it off him to wash it so this was a perfect opportunity lol. Then im going to go out and see how they are going. Cooper would be pretty tired by now id say...and i doubt very much he will sleep if him and daddy are working. he was a bit naughty last night with going to bed and actually got out of bed 3 times which is unlike him. He had a big mozzie bite on his foot though which he wouldnt stop scratching so i put some cream on it and sat with him for a bit and he was ok....He told me a Ra bit him :laughing:

Tan have a good time at the farm

Fi - yep atleast you know Owen can sleep through the night - gives you hope! i hope it becomes a regular thing soon for you! How cute about Claire and Owens Teeth - thats just so cute!!! Poor Owen though and his teething - he sounds so much like Cooper getting all his teeth!!! Poor little man. Cant wait till you get MSN again either!! (not that ill have much time soon anyway lol but i do miss you on there we use to have great chats!!!)

I had another dream i had a boy last night and im almost convinced its a boy lol. I have thought it from the start though.....either way ill be happy - not long now till i find out anyway!!!! :smiliedance: Been getting lots of niggling pains so hopefully its not too far away. I really dont want to go over like i did with Cooper!

Ok the washing machines finished better go!

tata.

[bingo]

:yelclap:Fi I just found our snow globes and :yes: I loved them - thanks! They made me laugh a lot. Whenever we get a cold day of weather lately I get so excited about the oncoming winter. I can't wait for the snow to fall. Maddi's sleep last night was terrible. She wouldn't sleep in her room and ended up in bed with us and she was squirming and moving all night. She ended up sleeping across our pillows so you can imagine how comfortable it was for Tony and I last night. Yes - a very romantic valentines day :rolleyes:. Claire is so funny with what she says to Owen, she is such a mother hen!
Renee, so glad to hear that baby blob is doing okay in there. I bet you were holding your breath until the image came up. Imagine being born on GF day! Party, party, party.
Hayley, I wonder if dreams come true? Boy you say - hmmm. Well I guess we'll just have to wait it out and see if your dream comes true.
Tan, your house reno's sound bigger than Ben Hurr. Oh well it will be great once their finished and you'll be happy you went through with it all. A trip to the farm sounds like a great idea. Get away from it all for a recharge. I'm contemplating driving to Melbourne for the day to visit my friend who had a baby. We'll see how we feel and make my mind up later in the week (like tomorrow).
Cath, have fun on Saturday! Hopefully the boys will behave for the babysitters and you can relax and have a good night out.
I was pleasantly surprised last night. Tony brought home 3 red roses, one for each of us. We don't usually celebrate V-day but he must have been feeling like it this year. WE had a lovely dinner last night of steak with a orange/port/honey sauce and strawberries with chocolate sauce YUMMO.
Maddi and I went into town today and bought up a storm. Maddi has grown out of her shoes AGAIN so had to buy another set of shoes. She's gone from a size 6 to a 7.5 - 8. I nearly died when the lady measured her up. The only reason I noticed was when I put her sandles on her Monday her toes were sticking out the end. We also bought a heap of winter clothes that were on sale. I bought Maddi her first Fred Bare top only because it was 50% off and I loved it. I also managed to get a denim jacket, some tracksuits and pants, long sleeved tops all for 50% off.
Well I better get off my butt and start cleaning. Heaps to do - so little time.

[Wivi]

Hi,

Well we didn't end up going to the farm which is a bit sad. The main reason is that I called my parents this morning and they told me it is too wet for Will to play outside at all at the moment. It's not raining a lot now, but showers forecast til Tuesday and it's probably even too wet outside for gumboots. We decided that meant it probably wasn't any better than being here as he couldn't do any of the stuff he normally does outside and would probably be very stressful all round. I will just have to come up with something to do here.

Thankfully my friend has agreed at short notice to mind Will tonight so that we can go out for dinner. It'll be our last opportunity before she moves away so I am taking advantage of it. I'll be so sad when they go - we went there this afternoon and the kids had a ball running around in the backyard.

The renos are bigger than Ben Hur Lou! The cladding and our huge water tank arrived today and they pretty much covered the front lawn for most of the day. It looked hilarious. The tank is now in the backyard but the cladding is still on the front lawn. Oh well - in a few weeks things should settle down a bit - the cladding will be on, the concreting down and the garden shed up so we will be able to store stuff in the shed (instead of on the deck) and hopefully the back yard might be usable again (new turf???).

Great shopping Lou. I don't have the energy to go and get Will any winter clothes right now - or can't be bothered or something! I'll get inspired eventually I guess.

Hayles - I hope those niggles turn into some action soon! I am very excited for you. Can't wait to hear what bubba is - although not as much as you I am sure.

Ok - better go and get ready. have to drop Will off soon.

[hayleylea]

Hello Everyone...hope your all having a great weekend.

Cooper had a great day with Daddy yesterday, I got out there around 2 and sat in the car and watched them for awhile. It was so cute watching Cooper help daddy fencing - Trent said he was sooooo good and he really did help. He was so dirty though, but had a really good time and thats the main thing. Only thing is he fell asleep on the way home at 4 which stuffed us up for the night. He was asleep at 8 but i think he had too much sun - because he woke at 2 screaming - Trent was on night shift and i was so tired so i put him into bed with me in the end. And he tossed and turned and tossed and turned....till ATLEAST 5am!!! :eek: I say till atleast that because i think eventually fell asleep he was sound asleep when i woke up at 8, slept till 9 and was very very cranky. I thought Oh what a great day im in for - luckily we had my Nephews 6th birthday party to go to to keep him occupied. It didnt start till 11.30 but i went there at 10.30 because he was driving me nuts!!! :laughing: I thought i was in for a very long day but he was EXCELLENT and had the best day ever with the kids and didnt whinge once. He didnt have a sleep but just a minute ago he said SHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHH and next minute he was grabbing ted and is now in bed. I hope he sleeps all night tonight cause Trents on night sfhit tonight and im really looking forward to having the bed to myself lol. The good thing that come out of going to the party early is there was a garage sale up the road from my sisters so i decided to go have a sticky and i picked up a rocking chair - with a foot stool - in EXCELLENT condition for $20!!!!! I have been looking one for when im feeding the baby etc so i was quite happy with that bargain. Luckily I had the landcruiser lol.

No signs of baby coming yet...its been reasonably quiet actually....

OK better go grab some dinner.

talk soon.

[MrsMiggins]

Ahhhh... the quiet before the storm perhaps, Hayles??!! :D

That's so good about your garage sale bargain!! Sounds like the one I have, which is excellent, BTW. Wow! Cooper had an early night! Dave's still trying to get Claire down now (although it is very quiet in there - I suspect they've both fallen asleep!)

Tan, how'd your dinner go last night? Sorry you guys didn't get to go out to the farm. :(

Lou, what a romantic Tony is!! How nice!! Dave was pathetically unromantic (as usual!!) I think he said something about him not putting the Sky Racing channel on as being my Valentines Day present :rolleyes: Good on you with your Fred Bare bargain!! And wow about Maddi's shoe size shooting up!! Claire is a cheap kid when it comes to shoes - she gets at least 6 months out of a size!! I bought her size 6's at the start of summer & she's really only getting a good fit out of them now. Takes after her dad in the tiny feet dept, obviously!! I have whopping great big clunkers!! Glad you liked your snow globes! Hope they gave you a chuckle!!

Nothing really newsworthy here today - more bloody rain! That's about it. I did my first Pump class at the gym this morning. I was surprised at how easy it was - I mean I got a decent workout, but I didn't feel like I was struggling to keep up - but then when it was finished, my legs felt like jelly!! It was the weirdest feeling! And even more bizarre - they still feel odd!

Oh cr@p! Owen's crying!!! Better run!

[hayleylea]

Size 6 huh Fi?? Cooper is a size 8 now!!!! Well he has only just gone into a size 8 but still! he has big hoofers like his mum :o

Dunno about the calm before the storm...we will have to wait and see. yep an early night for Cooper, he just got up too which isnt too bad!

LOL about Dave and turning off sky racing channel for valentines day! lol. I told Trent not to get me anything but he come home with a nice card, $40 in it and a scractchie (which i won $25 on :smiliedance:) He also cut me a rose from the garden which was nice. I hope Claire and Owen had a good sleep for you last night and Owens crying didnt last long!

Not sure what we are up to today. Going to our house when Trent has a little sleep (he was on night shift last night). I didnt sleep very well last night again - dunno why just tossed and turned and my mind kept ticking over and over thinking about things!

Anyway have a nice sunday - hope its stopped raining in QLD Fi.

[bingo]

I can't get over that its raining where you guys are. Its dry as a bone here and hot, I can't wait until it rains here. They say its why there's so many illnesses around Bendigo at the moment, all the dust is in the air and with it all these dodgy viruses. Poor Mackay being under water, I heard they got 6 inches in an hour :eek:.
Fi, Tony is not normally that romantic but he really put in an effort this year. It was a very pleasant surprise. Hey well done with your gym, its great to hear your still going. I am hopeless at gym in that I join up and am keen in the first few months then it just dies off. Your gym sounds fantastic with the kids getting looked after and everything. Your lucky that Claire's feet are manageable. At least you get good wear out of her shoes. I ended up buying Maddi a pair of Clarks sneakers that have a velcro closure, their pink and silver which Maddi just loves. I'm pretty fussy with her shoes so she costs me a fortune!
Tony is off to Melbourne tonight for work for three nights so yes, it will be just the girls until Thursday!

[MrsMiggins]

I actually have a friend who's two boys are the same ages as Claire & Owen & I ran into her at Kmart the other day. She just bought her older son (ie: the one the same age as Claire) size 10 sandals!!!! Talk about having a big hoofer!! He is gargantuan though!!

Lou, I am usually hopeless with fitness stuff. I go all gung-ho at the beginning, and then I have one or two lazy days & lose all momentum. But if something is costing me money, I'll stick to it, if only for the mere fact that I can't stand throwing money away!! That's half the reason I thought it'd be great motivation to join a gym. I have been a bit lazy lately though, only going once or twice a week. There really just aren't enough hours in the day. I did book the kids in Mon & Tues afternoon this week, so that makes me go, because otherwise I still have to pay.

Geez!! I am so sore today!! So much for me thinking I went OK yesterday! :laughing: I've no idea how I'm going to do anything tomorrow!

Wow Hayles!! You made out like a bandit on Valentines Day!! Good work with the scratchy!

It's not actually raining here today (yet!).

We were going to go buy some meat from this new place my mum was telling me about. I've been meaning to go for a couple of weeks, but hadn't gotten around to it. Then they had an ad in one of those local coupon papers, with all these fantastic "grand opening" specials. They had some 97% fat free beef mince for only $3.99/kg. When we go there, there's all these contractors with their tools & stuff lying around all over the place & when I walked up to the door, one of the guys gives me a strange look & says "They're not open til Monday, love" I said "Well, they've got an ad in this paper saying they opened yesterday with all these specials in it that are just for this weekend!!" :confused:

Anyway, we weren't the only ones turning up there confused!! Looks like they mightn't have got all the work done in time. Turns out they had a shopfront on their factory there, and they decided to expand it out so that it was a full shop out the front. I guess I'll try again on Monday!

So we went to the markets instead. I got some of those wooden puzzles - 3 for $10, which I thought would be good for Owen's birthday, I bought Claire this absolutely gorgeous blue top with pink flowers on it for $5 and some fruit & veg. They had nice, ripe avocados at one stall, so I bought 3 large ones & it only cost me $1.65! They are $2.42 each here at the supermarkets right now & they're not as nice! I also got 6 small red apples for $2 (they are about $4.99-$6.99/kg here at the supermarket! I bought a large granny smith the other day & just 1 cost me $1.14!) So I was pretty happy with that!

OMG! How boring my life must be!!! lol I just wote several paragraphs on my unexciting trip out this morning!!

Owen, BTW, was a little rat bag last night! He was awake almost every hour until 3.15, when he decided that he wasn't going back to sleep. I sat up trying for a while, then I gave up & sent Dave in (I don't think he was very impressed at having to get up, but I honestly could not have cared less!!!)

Hopefully he'll snap out of it tonight. He was quite cranky earlier & sticking his hands in his mouth, so I gave him some bonjela & I think he's getting his other two molars - very red & lumpy in there!

[MrsMiggins]

OK, I spoke too soon!! Now it's raining! :rain::gloomy::rain::gloomy:

(Sunshine Coast - pah!)

[Wivi]

Don't worry Fi - Will's only got small feet too. He's a 6 or 7 at the moment although I have noticed the size 6 sandals are starting to look a little small.

Oh and the sunny weather continues to evade us as well! Man - it makes it so hard at the moment with all the renos and stuff. I thought I would be able to escape with Will to parks and stuff while all this was happening but it has been very difficult.

Oh - I may as well just launch right into my vent. I really need to get it all out. All day today I have been on the verge of tears, I am just so fed up. It isn't that anything has gone wrong exactly, it is just that it all seems so much at the moment. Troy is being a real b****** cause he is fed up too and Will is being incredibly naughty. I am finding everything hard and it is so hard to do cleaning, let alone washing and don't mention my work! They are going to think I have gone AWOL. Did I tell you that at the moment if I do any washing I have to drive to a friend's place to either hang it out or put it in the dryer? Troy hates his clothes going in the dryer so I end up driving over, hanging it on the line and then going back again a few hours later to pick it up. It's driving me insane! :hissy::hissy: That's how I feel right now and Troy knows it as I have had more cranky words to him today than I think I have in the last 9 years! To top it all off, I feel like anything remotely physical is my responsibility - like the cleaning and sorting out what is left of the garden, and our extremely filthy car because Troy has made it very clear that his time is far more valuable doing work and therefore earning money despite the baby belly I have! And never mind the fact I have found him asleep both yesterday and today on the lounge! Oh man , I had better stop or I am going to say something I will seriously regret.

Except that as usual Troy did nothing for Valentines Day which would not have bothered me except that the head excavator guy brought a huge box of roses for his girlfriend with him in the morning and they sat on my front porch all day until he went home where I had to look at them! Arrrrggghhhh!

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Fi - yeah i did score pretty well for valentines day. I think it was more the fact that he wanted me to go out and buy something nice for myself because ive been feeling a bit yucky with the whole end of pregnancy thing. It was still very nice though. Sounds like you had a good time at the markets - not boring at all either. I hope you had a better night with Owen last night.

Tan :hugs: Sounds like you are a bit fed up at the moment and I would be too! What a pain having to drive to your friends to hang the clothes on the line - and sounds like Troy needs to help you out a bit more. yeah i know he helps you out and he is a good man but sometimes they just slack off a bit!!! Oh and us pregnant ladies do get over emotional sometimes so they should realise not to upset us in any way shape of form (not that being upset or emotional isnt justified when pregnant!!!) As for Will being naughty - I hope its just a stage. Cooper is really testing us out at times at the moment too. Mainly with going to bed ofa night - but the big thing at the moment is "I dont want too!!!!!!!" he says it a billion times a day and it drives me nuts!!!!!!!!

Speaking of which Cooper woke up 2 times last night screaming...but Trent settled him both times without much of a hassle but they were really bad screams and he was really upset. I felt horrible not going into him because he was yelling out for me..but he is relying on me too much at the moment and has to learn that daddy is equally just as good - especially when the baby is just around the corner.Trent did a really good job with him - Cooper is STILL asleep!!! I heard him crying at about 8.45 but it was only a short scream and then silence. Im going to go in and check on him after this...im wondering if there is something a little more going on if he is so tired. Ill see how he goes but i think we might skip the day sleep today and just have a rest - since it is 9.15!!

Tan - you need a day off doing nothing! (easier said then done I know!)

Anyway i better go check on this boy and get some breakkie into me before i start feeling sick.

[hayleylea]

Well Cooper decided to get out of bed at 10am! here i was thinking he must be sick or something but he is full of beans and happy as larry!!!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!! So he is well rested (which he needed) and we are planning a day of being at home and not doing a great deal at all but washing and all the fun stuff! Cooper was wet as when he woke up this morning so we have even more washing to do today! Ah well lol.

[Wivi]

Well I am very glad that Cooper finally decided to get out of bed! Geez - I can't sleep til 10am and never have - how does a toddler do that?

I am feeling much better today Hayles. Obviously we are still living in the mess but I had a really good sleep last night and that seems to have made a difference. Will is still really testing the boundaries but I think he is just unsettled about all the stuff going on around here. He's being particularly painful about eating and that is very out of character but I suspect it is the whole "control" thing - everything else is changing in his world so he can be stubborn about that. He's being quite disobedient and there have been a few mini tanty's but I guess it is nothing we can't cope with. The worst bit is that he keeps asking to go to Nanny and Poppy's place (no idea why, we hadn't told him last week that we were thinking about going there) and he is seriously unimpressed that I keep saying "not today". I am sure he is not behaving any differently to any other 2 year old though.

I have been so tempted to smack him though! Honestly - I have had to restrain myself as a little while ago we decided not to smack him and use the naughty spot instead. You start to wonder though after the 10th visit to the naughty spot....

OK - better go and do some stuff. Chat later guys!

[hayleylea]

haha i dunno why he slept in so long Tan - he did have a few big days though and i guess he had a little unsettled night. Just tired i guess!!!! He has been good as gold today - (good rest does him good) - needless to say im not even contemplating a day sleep after his big sleep in!!! As for the disobedient thing Tan - it could be just the changes going on at your house at the moment - i just think they go through a stage and they are fiding their independence and using every moment they can to test us out. As for the naughty corner...i put cooper in there naughty corner but sometimes i must admit i have given him a little tap on the bum. Sometimes its the only way i can get through to him. Not hard literally a tap on his nappy!

i was a bit naughty and mowed the back lawn today :oit was so long and it looked like rain and Cooper couldnt play with his cars and stuff properly in it so i gave it a quick mow. Its not the best mow ive ever done but it did the trick lol only took 10 minutes - its not that big a yard!

anyway Trents at our house tiling the splash back for the kitchen and then the kitchen is all done! :smiliedance: putting the move on hold STILL because of the fences and because im a bit wary of staying out there at night when im so close to having a baby and also not having the dogs around (Cause of the fences not being done) im Ok about it though! Like i mentioned before im pretty carefree about the whole thing at the moment lol.
After i have the baby might be a different story LMAO.

Ok im off to check on this boy he is outside playing in his sandpit waiting for it to rain lol. He loves the rain!!!

oh funny story. We had to wash all his bed stuff today. Blankets and sheets - his favourite blanket was on the line and he gets a bit wary if i have to wash it but he was ok cause it was a bit wet. Anyway i was sitting here and he walked into his room - grabbed a little chair from his room and told me he wanted to go outside. I opened the door for him and he told me to go away...and i watched out the window and he put it right under the clothes line and pulled his blankets off the line! god love him! so cute!

[cath]

A quick hello from me as Paddy won't give me long I'm sure.

I am feeling much better this week after getting out for dinner and a few drinks on Saturday night and finally getting Dean back in the bed. The mouthguard worked and he has stopped snoring:smiliedance: Will only woke once last night at 4am for a feed (after not actually going to bed for the night until 9:30 -this is the new habit he has now - over a week of him going to bed for a little nap and then coming out to play for a while before being happy to go back to bed). I am now uuhming and aahing about the overnight CCing this weekend. I will see how he goes over the next 3 nights and decide later this week I guess.

Hayley that is a big sleep in for Cooper! Must have needed the sleep -he is a busy little man most days by the sounds of it. You crazy pregnant woman mowing the lawns -you're hilarious. Are you polishing floors or anything crazy yet (probably not I'm guessing seeing as you are about to move into a new house).

Tan you poor thing. Life is all sounding a bit nuts at your place. That is so wrong that Troy is having naps in the day while his pregnant wife is running around the streets with washing - WTF! What is with these men sometimes! I hope things improve for you. If he has time for naps he has time for housework.

Fi I hope the rain is giving you a break today -sounds very annoying. Did you get to the meat place today?

Lou how cool about Tony and his 3 roses -nice! You did very well with your shopping.

Renee how are you feeling? I hope all is well with you.

Anna how are things at your place? Has Chelsea settled into school? Nicola hasn't started yet is that right?

We (being Dean) finally got some stuff down on our house on the weekend. Our renovations have been at such a standstill but we are going to try and make more of an effort to get at least one thing done each weekend. Dean got a bit more plaster work done in our new laundry (that is still just a shell -we are still coping with a stupid laundry in a shed for now) and he also finally sawed a bit off the bottom of the boys bedroom door that has never opened properly. That only took all of 2 and a bit years -I've been battling to get the pram through the half open door since Paddy was born -crazy!

We went to Aldi on Saturday morning because there was some cycling stuff in the catalogue that Dean wanted (that we discovered doesn't start until Thursday so now I have to go back). I hadn't been to Aldi for ages and last time I went it wasn't that good but this time I was really impressed. So many basics are there and they are much cheaper so I will be doing some of our fortnightly shop there from now on I think.

Anyway better head off and get some stuff done (Paddy is entertaining himself climbing over the back of the couch). Hope everyone is well and I will chat soon.

[hayleylea]

yeah im a bit of nutter mowing the lawn this far pregnant arent I :laughing:I got a slap on the wrist of Trent when he got home too. OH well...I honestly wouldnt do it if i didnt think i could!!! like i said the yard isnt that big so its not as though i was exerting myself!

Well done with the renos too CAth - i know all too well that they take forever...and you know what? its usually them tiny little jobs that get put aside because they are "easy to do" and they dont get done till AGES later - Dean and trent sound alike that way lol.

I hope Will continues to sleep well for you too

anyway better go finish getting dinner ready. I see Annas msn message is back online so she might be paying us a visit later???!!

talk soon!

[bingo]

Cath thats so great that Deans mouthguard worked for his snoring. What a peaceful night that must have been. And you finally get to share a bed together. So good that you got to have a night out just the two of you. I'm envious. This Friday is our 5 year anniversary but I don't think we'll be doing anything. Usually my folks come up and babysit Maddi while we go out but seeing as they just went home I doubt it will happen. Ah well, we'll keep it up our sleeve and meet them in Melbourne for a night out at a later date I think.
Maddi has been so painful too. Glad to hear that the naughty monster is not only visiting this house. I've been putting it down to Maddi being sick of late, and last night I had a good look in her mouth and 2 of her molars are halfway out and they look really swollen and sore. The other 2 are just starting to break through. All I can hope for is that once these suckers get through she will go back to sleeping well and behaving better. Whenever she's really tired she gets so short tempered and naughty. She's been spending lots of thinking time in the cot lately thats for sure. When its time to come out she has to say "sorry mummy" and I ask her why she's sorry and she tells me " I shouldn't have jumped on the table" or whatever it is she's done. Then she gets to come out of the cot and give me a big hug then come out and say sorry to anyone else thats around. I'm sure one of these days VERY soon she is going to go to the cot of her own accord because she knows she's been bad.
This morning I told her "c'mon Maddi we have to go to creche now". And Maddi tells me she can't because she feels sick whilst rubbing her tummy. I told her she wasn't sick and that she would be fine to go to creche. Then she tells me she has a sore leg, and after I ask her whats wrong she tell me that its broken. OMG its started already. After explaining to her that its sing song day she jumps up and runs to the front door. Lord help me with this thinker starts school.
Tan, I have to confess that I have given Maddi a smack on the hand. It was when she went to grab my hot coffee and it was a reflex for me to smack her hand away. She looked at me with horror initially then ****ed herself laughing at me. I felt so bad for doing it without even thinking but in the end it just had the opposite effect for Maddi. I'm finding the time out ( 1 minute for every year of age) is working ok. Some days I do have to walk away and count to 100. And you know walking away is sometimes the best thing for her too. Some days she just has this need to get my attention by being a little devil. So I just walk away and go to another room. I find that that works too and gives me a chance to cool off. Some days when I'm rushing around trying to get stuff done like the housework I forget that I haven't paid her any attention and she is desperate for a playmate (which is me at the moment). And on those days is when she tends to be naughty. Maybe with all the reno stuff and you running around trying to get everything done he's acting out trying to get some mummy time? I dunno Tan, these two year olds can certainly spit it can't they!
Well my 5 second post has turned into a mega post. Maddi has just gone to bed and I'm going to delve into the Lindt chocolates and Baileys. Its been a tough Monday and I'm a single parent until Thursday.

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Im so sorry cath I forgot to mention how fantastic it is that the mouth guard has stopped Dean snoring!! You guys must be over the moon!!!!!

Lou – im all for the 2 minutes time out too. Mind you Cooper usually puts himself in his room if he is in trouble. He goes to his room, shuts (slams!) his door and sits at the door sulking. When he is ready to come out he yells out Mummy (ever so nicely!) – I go in and he gives me a cuddle and I explain what he did was naughty and we are all happy again. Its funny the little traits they get isn’t it?! I cant believe Maddi is already faking sickies!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that’s so funny!!!!

Cooper fell asleep on the lounge at 6.45 last night – I put him to bed and he got up at 8 this morning – man he likes his sleep sometimes! Im happy to say he didn’t wake up last night either and I had a really good night sleep for the first time in AGES!!!! Im off to the doctors this afternoon for my routine check. Hopefully this babies head is engaged and ready to go…im so over being pregnant. I know im not technically due but it would be nice to go early this time rather then late!

Cooper wants to go to my mums today – he misses her. We cant though and he isn’t very happy…I will have to find something extra special for us to do to keep him occupied!

OK have a nice day everyone!

[Wivi]

Hey Cath! Great news about the mouthguard! How lovely that you got a nice peaceful night's sleep - together!

Lou - I know that most of Will's naughtiness lately is attention seeking. I can't really blame him either. He actually was a bit better yesterday and this morning. The weather hasn't helped at all - I took him to the park yesterday morning but we had to come back as it started to rain and he was not happy about that.

Overall, I think he has been pretty good, considering everything that has been happening. It's made worse by the fact that Troy and I have been stressed out about a lot of the reno stuff and therefore we don't have the patience we would normally.

Hayley - I can't believe you mowed the lawn! You are one crazy girl. Even if it was only a 10 minute job. That's insane! Good luck at your appointment today - maybe it is time for you to start trying out some of those home remedies for inducing labour. Are you up for a curry?

[Moorish]

Hi girls!!!

Do you all remember me? :o :D

I'm not even going to go into how incredibly hectic life has been these last few weeks - but most days I haven't been able to sit down until around 2pm.

Chelsea got off to school last Thursday and is really just loving it. She was so excited to be playing on all the larger equipment with all the other kids in the school (the kinder is separate with it's own play area) and she's come home every day with lots of new things she's learned - sign language, areas of the school, teachers, other kids etc.

Nicola starts kinder next Monday and she's looking forward to it. She and a little girl from my mums group have really hit it off and are such good little friends - turns out they're in the same class together which is such a blessing! We had her parents down last weekend for dinner and they ended up staying til 2am! LOL!

Imogen is turning into quite the little girl lately, although is still a ratbag at times. One thing that makes my blood boil is her screaming - it's ear splitting and I swear it sounds like she's being murdered :rolleyes:. She does it when she's crabby, when she's being teased, chased, had something taken off her by her sisters etc and I've had enought. Oh and on the TT issue - still nothing happening there but I'm not too fussed. Actually, she woke this morning with only a very small wee in her nappy which I was quite surprised about but doesn't mean anything.

Alex is still a little treasure, although the last few days have been a bit of a test. He's 7.5mths old and he's starting to test me at nap/bed times. I'm thinking (hoping) that it's all because he's been overtired lately - he screamed for 5 mins this morning and I just had to leave him but then he went quiet so I'm going to let him sleep for as long as he likes so he can catch up a little - Immy has been a little turd and goes into his room after he goes down for the night and wakes him up so he's so crabby, poor little man.

Shane and I have been well - today is our 8 year wedding anniversary :goodvibes:. Nothing huge planned, kids in bed early then we'll both cook dinner (I bought some yummy trevalla) and I'm making a simple chocolate fondue with fruit for dessert. It's going to be 31 degrees here today so I think we might eat dinner outside and then laze in the hammock with a little wine :goodvibes:.


Well I don't think I have much of a chance of catching up with everyone but I'll try my hardest over the next couple of days or so. But has there been any news?

How are all those baby bumps going?
How are all the kiddies?
I can't wait to read what's been happening!

Must go take advantage of this beautiful weather and get some washing done so I'll pop back in later.
It's good to be back!

xoxo

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Ah guys i know it sounds naughty mowing the lawn but i really still dont think its a big deal. My MIL and Trent got up me big time but i just laughed it off. I barely even broke a sweat!

Tan -- yeah i think its about time i start trying some home remedies to bring on labour. Im not much of a curry fan at all but i suppose ill try anything!! lol

Anna - good to hear from you stranger. Sounds like yoru clan is all doing well!!! Cooper has a bit of a squeal every now and again (usually when he is with his cousin Emilee!!!!!!!!!) and it drives me nuts!!!!!!!! Happy Anniversary too by the way. Its also my sisters and my mum and dads wedding anniversary today!

baby bumps doing good here. Dunno if you read about my last weeks docs appointment where i got sent for an ultrasound cause the doc thought the baby was too small and may have stopped growing.Turned out to be the complete opposite though thankfully. The ultrasound said im due around the 25th of feb but im quite happy to go any time!!

Coopers having a day sleep for me today - he told me he was only going to have a rest today but it obviously got the better of him lol

anyway im off to have a shower and get ready for the docs.

talk soon.

[Wivi]

Hey Anna! Nice to see you back in here!

It sounds as though your girls are settling into school well. Hopefully that means things will not be so hectic for you as well. You sound as though you really have been very busy.

My baby bump is growing bit by bit. Just like last time I have been getting a lot of comments about how small it is - but it feels big enough to me! I go back to the Ob on Thursday for my usual checkup. Although this baby wriggles a fair bit, it feels like it is in exactly the same spot it was 2 weeks ago as all the movements are in the same place!

Happy Anniversary - what a productive 8 years you and Shane have had. I hope your dinner goes well this evening.

Will doesn't do the whole squealing thing (thank goodness) but it's probably because he hasn't really spent any time with any other kids who squeal. I am sure he would be doing it otherwise.

The TT thing is at a standstill here. Will continues to hold on for hours but is not very good at telling us when to go so I am still taking him every couple of hours or so. For the moment I am not pushing it too much, he has been unsettled a bit by all our renos I think. I know that he can do it and he'll come around again eventually. He is at daycare today which has been a real blessing as I have actually managed to get quite a bit of work done. Woohoo! Only another hour left though before he comes home so I had better get back to it.

Hayley - hope your appointment goes well.

[hayleylea]

Morning guys

Appointment went well yesterday. Babys head is 3/5 of the way engaged and is in good position. bring it on I say!

Anna i forgot to mention Cooper and the whole TT training thing isnt happening either. I offer him to go to the toilet and wear undies etc but he just isnt that interested so i figure he isnt ready. Im not worried at the moment he has enough changes in his life about to happen without me trying ot force him to TT. lol. He will get there eventually.

OK well thats my monkey yelling out - he must be ready to get up.

talk soon.

[Wivi]

Morning all,

Hayles - that's good to hear you are all set to go now. :fingerscrossed: it's all smooth sailing from here.

Yet another day with Will waking up with his mega grumpy pants on - or maybe that should be naughty pants. I swear the cladding guy is either going to think we are the meanest parents in the world or we have the world's sookiest child! I admit I did put my tough mummy pants on today - I've had enough of Will's naughtiness and am sticking to my guns. I am also going to see what reducing his sweet intake does - not that he eats heaps of sweet things but he has had a few more lately and I am ready to give anything a go right now. I know that he isn't doing anything unusual but I don't have a lot of patience at the moment.

Anyway - I'm going to walk Will down the street to the park while we have a fine day!

[hayleylea]

Tan - i hope Will managed to get run hiis grumpy pants off at the park!!!! As for the tough mummy act...we all have to do it sometimes - stick to your guns I say! :yes:

Cooper and I went to playgroup this morning and then he wanted to stay with my sister so im currently home alone!!! :D Have the whole afternoon to myself and im looking forward to it indeed!! Cooper wont be having a sleep because he will be too busy playing with his cousin but he is always good at my sisters and we have been pretty boring here latley so it will do him good to be there for the afternoon.

Anyway im off to enjoy my afternoon by myself :smiliedance:

[Wivi]

I am happy to report that Will ran and ran his grumpy pants off at the park! After a lot of running he then rode and rode and rode them off some more! :smiliedance: I think it did us both some good.

He was even good when we came back and walked back with no dramas at all, came inside and sat down to watch his beloved Poko before eating his lunch without any real dramas! I was a happy mummy.

Currently he is asleep although I don't know for how long as the cladding guy is banging like crazy on that wall. Oh well - he's being good even going to sleep!

Speaking of banging - I think I might get off here - he's banging on the wall behind my computer - it's a bit scary!

[cath]

Hi everyone and welcome back Anna! Happy anniversary for yesterday. I hope you had a nice night in and all the kids went to bed nice and early and stayed there for you.

Tan good to hear Will has got rid of his grumpiness. Sometimes an outing to the park for a while will do it. Paddy loves that Poko or whatever it is called show too (the little blue man right?).

Hayley that baby of yours is definitely heading on it's way out - how exciting! That is so nice that you have an afternoon to yourself -make the most of it.

Lou happy anniversary to you and Tony for Friday. Hopefully you will get to celebrate sometime in the near future. I just love the story about Maddi saying her leg was broken -she is a classic.

I'm in the process of sorting out my wardrobe once again (did it a while ago but obviously not very successfully). I do not like most of my clothes and really want to get a wardrobe that I am totally happy with. It is just so hard to find new clothes that I like at the moment. I am always so rushed when I am shopping and everything seems to make me look pregnant. My plan is to sell more stuff on ebay then hit the shops one day in the future on my own for a good 4 hours.

Anyway jsut a quick check in. Better get on to it while I can. Will is asleep and Paddy is at Dean's parents. I am so thankful he is there today. I really needed some time out. He is just so full on from the minute he wakes up until he goes to bed 12 hours later. The second he is up he is talking and making demands. This morning I was really tired (will woke at 12:30, 2 and 5:30 -stuck on his tummy every time) and had Paddy come in and hand me my glasses as soon as he got up and point to the hallway saying "mumma up". He has no idea what goes on during the night and thinks I should be full of energy like him I guess. I said "mumma's tired" but he couldn't have cared less and started getting upset that I wouldn't get up so up I got. Then it is instantly "brekky, rice bubbles (his new cereal of choice), Will brekky, change nappy, new puzzle, mumma sit":ecomcity:. I swear he doesn't draw breath sometimes.

Anyway I'd really better go and enjoy the peace and quiet. Chat soon.

[Wivi]

Cath - I think the little blue man is called Pokoyo (?) - as you can tell there has been a lot of rainy days in Sydney lately! Poko is about a little boy and his dog called Minus. It's very cute and talks about feelings and how you should deal with different things. Will loves it and has for absolutely ages.

Oh - I meant to tell you that I know some people who had a little boy the other day and named him William Patrick! How cool is that? Oh - I haven't forgotten about sending the book either - I am going to make a big effort to do it tomorrow. I'm so sorry.

Good work with Paddy out of the house today. I can't imagine all day everyday with no day sleep. Will's a real chatterbox and the teachers at daycare keep telling me how clever he is (I'm not too sure about that myself) cause he knows all his letters, can play memory and he knows his numbers too. They tried to tell me that last week he counted up to 29 when he was pointing at objects in a book but I have serious doubts about that! All I know is that it takes an awful lot to keep him occupied at times!

Oh - the whole wardrobe thing. I really know where you are coming from with that one. I really want to go shopping for some new clothes after this baby is born. My winter wardrobe is looking very dated and I just love things like nice winter jumpers etc. The opportunity and the money to do it though might be a bit scarce!

Ok - I have left Will with an icypole I had better go. Although how good was this. Will and I were sitting on the lounge before watching tele (i'm having a very blah afternoon) and I felt tired so I leaned back on the lounge to have a little nap. Will was sitting in the crook of my arm - and said "Mummy sleep?" I said "yes - Mummy is tired" and he said "ok" and let me have a little nap while he just sat there in the crook of my arm watching tele! It was quite lovely actually.

[cath]

How funny about William Patrick. I guess it's bound to happen seeing as we have chosen fairly common names.

Any time about the book - seriously if it takes another month or so that is fine. I have so many projects on the go at the moment it might take me a while to get to read it.

I am over half way with the wardrobe project. I bought the new book by Trinny and Susannah yesterday (you know those two English women that have the tv show What Not to Wear -I love that show). The book is called the body shape bible and goes through dressing for your shape. I am now eradicting anything that "hangs from my tits" as they nicely put it as it definitely does make me look pregnant and I actually have a waist so should show it off. I knew those tops were no good for me but the shops are full of them at the moment. I have the biggest basket of stuff to put on ebay and I am starting again. I am going to have a very limited wardrobe for the next few months I think but I'm sure I will cope.

Anyway better start preparing dinner before Mr Chatterbox gets home.

Tan that is beautiful that Will let you have a rest -what a gorgeous little boy.

[hayleylea]

omg my little man is soooo over tired and cranky right now. He was good as gold for my sister but boy oh boy was he not impressed to come home!!!!! He is currently having a "rest" on the lounge but he is not to fall asleep!

I think ive started to loose my plug!!! It happened the same with cooper just mucous over a few days (i think i had it for about a week with cooper...so far its about 3 days here!) just thick mucous - yellowish Greenish. Its a light green and apparently thats ok (the doctor reassured me) so hopefully that means things are happening!!

Anyway gotta go get this boy dinner he will be having an early early dinner incase he falls asleep early!

[MrsMiggins]

Sorry I can't post properly, I have one very sick little girl today (she's currently wearing her 7th or 8th outfit of the day, having thrown up all over the others!) and she's lying in our bed watching a Playschool DVD. I'm trying to entertain Owen, but just had to check some emails so thought I'd pop on & say Hi while I'm at it!

I just happened to glimpse the top of your post Tan, and yes, Cath - it's Pocoyo! Claire is absolutely addicted to it right now! I got the dvd from the library, so I've no idea what I'll do when we have to take it back! I have just kept renewing it, but it'll have to go back next week. Might have to grab one from Kmart, I think!

Hayles, I also managed to catch the last bit of your post & OMG HOW EXCITING!!!! I never lost my plug until long, long after my contractions started - water broke & everything!

OK, Owen's having a tanty! Gotta run!

[Wivi]

Oh Cath - it's no good that you live so far away, I love Trinny and Susannah too! Troy doesn't mind watching them either. You know they are coming to Aus next month don't you? Westfield shopping centres - you should see if you can get a ticket! I would go but obviously it is a bit pointless when you are 8 months PG. :laughing:

Hayley - ooh! The Plug! I don't know when I lost mine with Will - sometime during the birth I think. How exciting though. Gee it would be handy if I had the whole "show" thing this time wouldn't it? Then I would at least have some idea it would happen reasonably soon after that!

Fi - so sorry to hear Claire is not well. I hope it passes soon, it does not sound pleasant at all! I also hope that Owen doesn't get it!

OK - have to get off here. Just really felt I had to respond to those posts!

[cath]

Tan I saw an ad about Trinny and Susannah coming to Australia and checked out whether I could go and see them. You have to win a ticket to go and see them and to do that you have to spend $100 at a Westfield shopping centre by this weekend. I only found this out earlier this week and was going to rush out and buy something but this fortnight is really bad for bills so I've decided against it (I'm sure I wouldn't win tickets anyway -I never win those things). That's why I bought the book instead (spent $40 instead of $100 and am planning to sell the book on ebay once I'm done with it). I would totally love to go to one of their shows though and when I first saw they were coming I thought I would hate to be pulled out of the audience but now I've decided I would love it. I went out for a drink with a friend last night (which was so unreal - haven't done that in years) and she works in fashion and has great clothes. I was telling her about my project and she said she would come shopping and help me once I have sold all my stuff so I have some money to spend. She will have to be my own personal "trinny and Susannah".

Hayley are you still with us? I am so excited for you -things are definitely happening!

Fi how awful about poor little Claire. I hope she is better today.

Anyway better get going - lots to do. Paddy has gone to my Mum's for the whole day and Will and I have a day packed with washing, shopping and cleaning -how exciting. Better go and change Will's sheets. He is wet pretty much every morning even though he is in Huggies overnight. I put him in a bigger size thinking that might help but he still ends up wet. Must be all those overnight feeds. Speaking of which he only woke once last night at 3:30:smiliedance: Out of the last 4 days he has only had one night of waking 3 times -the other 3 nights he was only up once. I can cope with once so am hoping this is becoming a niew pattern. He has also had 3 nights of going to bed and staying in bed:smiliedance: I really shouldn't mention it because I know that means he will be a nightmare tonight.

Have a good day everyone and hopefully I might even get to check in again later.

[Wivi]

hmm - no Hayley in here today! Not on messenger either! Wonder if today's the day then? Oooh - how exciting!

Well Troy and I had a run in this morning about Will and his breakfast. For a while now - Will has been asking to eat Weetbix like a biscuit - with no milk. I haven't been letting him do this as it's the only milk he gets all day and it's also incredibly messy. I told Troy about this but as usual he didn't listen properly. Anyway, Thursday is pretty much the only day he is around when Will eats breakfast. So I get out of the shower and discover Will is sitting on the kitchen bench eating dry Weetbix over a bowl. I was so annoyed with Troy as this will mean that I have a battle with Will for the next few days because this is what he will want to do. Not only that but Troy then decides Will can have a drink at the same time and leaves the room! Upon which Will promptly sticks his hands in the cup (Grrrr) and makes an enormous mess with the Weetbix that I have to deal with. I was so angry. In retrospect it does seem like a small thing but I have been working really hard to get Will to eat his breakfast properly at the table this week (like he always has). I felt like everything was undone and it really irked me.

I also took Will to the doctor this morning as he has this weird rash on his toes - just needs some cream so that was no big drama. But I asked about his snoring as he has been really loud lately (like we can hear him in the hallway with the door closed!). So the doctor looks in his mouth and says his tonsils are blocking his airway and wants an x-ray to see what his adenoids are doing. So we are on the same rollercoaster as before. I doubt anyone will take them out. He's not in discomfort - just loud!

Ok - have to go. Ob appt this afternoon.

[MrsMiggins]

Hi all! I just sms'd Hayley, so we'll see what's happening (I hope!!)

Cath, just wondering if you've tried a brand other than Huggies for Will? I had the same problem with Owen & I switched him to the cheap Coles brand (there are 2 types of the You'll Love Coles ones - I get the cheapie cheap ones - only $15.98 for a huge packet) and I've had no problems since then. I think the Huggies were just the wrong shape for him. You know what? Your day of shopping & cleaning etc. sounds pretty good to me!! :D

Tan, I sooooooooo get what you mean about Troy letting Will do stuff that you are trying to get him to stop doing!! Dave pulls that one on me all the time & it drives me NUTTY!!! I bet you wanted to slap Troy around with that dry weetbix!! :laughing: I'm glad Will's rash ended up being no big deal, and hopefully something will happen about his tonsils now. It must be so frustrsting for you though, knowig that he'd be better off without them, but knowing that they're hesitant to whip 'em out.

Claire was fine this morning, so that's very good! Just hoping that Owen won't have picked it up.

[cath]

Interesting Fi. I will give that a go. I buy the homebrand nappies too and have found them to be really good but have always thought that maybe they wouldn't last the night but seeing as the Huggies aren't doing that anyway maybe I'll give them a go. That would be great -any saving is a good one. Good to hear Claire is better and I have my fingers crossed for you that Owen is okay too.

Tan I hope you get Will back into having his cereal with milk. It can be so annoying with things like that because if they do something once they think they are right to do it all the time. We have only just got Paddy happy to have only one book read to him before bed after letting him have a couple one night recently and then every night it was "more books" and a real battle to get him to happily go to bed. Poor Will having to have an xray. That does sound pretty loud for a little boy. I hope things turn out okay. How many weeks pregnant are you now?

Anyway just a quick check in. Talk later.

[bingo]

:eek:I wonder if Hayley IS in labor? How exciting. When I lost my plug I went into labor a couple of hours later and had Maddi the next day.
I can't imagine how hard it must be to eat a weetbix dry?! Maybe one of those breakfast bars would suit Will? :D Yes its really annoying when DH's give in and break the rules. Makes us look like witches when we try and enforce the rules.
Fi, I hope Claire has continued to feel better and nobody else gets it. Its just so horrid when they get the vomits like that. It really takes it out of them. Have you had a chance to catch up on some sleep?
Ah Cath can I come shopping with you and your friend. I need so many clothes for all seasons. I always end up with these impulse buys and regret them later because they just don't suit me. I've only had luck with shoes lately.
My excitement for the week is that we had enough rewards points to get a red kitchen aid and its now on order. I can't wait to use it :smiliedance:. I also finally bought myself a decent pair of sunnies. I have been buying these $10 cheapies that always fall apart and finally bit the bullet and spoilt myself.
Well I'll be popping on and off here to check up on Hayleys progress report. She's probably out at the other house with her feet up on her new couch!

[hayleylea]

Hi everyone!

NOPE!!! no labour for me - ive been at our house painting windows lol. So been pretty busy. Baby is quiet so I dunno what is going on. Its moving a bit now but it always does around this time. As i said before i lost my plus a week or so before Cooper so im not getting my hopes up. I seriously thought last night could have been the night but i slept like a log!!! Think i have a while to go!!!

Fi - so sorry to hear Claire is sick i hope she gets better soon.

I have a sick little boy too - just a cold though. Its got worse and worse as the day has gone on. He is in the shower now - he had a sleep in the car around 4 so im hoping a nice shower...some demazin and bed will see him wake up much better tommorrow...I dont want him to have a bad cold especially if i have bubs because he wont be able to be near it straight away...

Tan - ive had a little chat to you on msn so sorry for lack of personals.

Cath - hope you managed to get everything done today while you didnt have paddy.

Lou - wel done with the kitchen Aid.

Anyway guys im buggered and better get this boy out of the shower.

Talk soon.

Oh and by the way..i WILL let you know if i go into labour so dont worry about that :D

[Wivi]

Hey everyone!

So - no labour for Hayles yet. We all got excited for nothing.

Ob appt went well. Bubs still bottom down, head up but nothing to worry about yet. Everything is as it should be.

Cath - My Will used to wet through like that all the time too. I don't know if you remember but in the end he went to bed with 2 nappies on - a Huggies close to his skin and then a cheaper brand over the top. We would poke holes in the outer lining of the Huggies so that any overflow would go through to the cheaper nappy. It worked for Will - when he was older and I started using the Aldi nappies he just wore one and they didn't leak but by then he might have been weeing lees. The double nappy saved my sanity though - those 4am wakeups to strip Will were sending me bonkers!

Good luck with the clothes shopping too. What a bummer about the Trinny and Susannah thing. You should be allowed to just buy a ticket I think!

Lou - woohoo about the kitchen aid! YAY - that's a good use of points. I hadn't thought about a breakfast bar for Will, maybe if he continues this fad I should look into it. I just like the Weetbix for the low sugar content and so many cereals have heaps of sugar in them.

Alright - am going now. Need to do a little bit of work before finding :sleeping: land tonight!

[hayleylea]

Tan i forgot to mention about Wills adnoids. My nephew is getting his out in a few weeks (he is 6) he was much like Will and got tonsillitis HEAPS when he was little and still gets it...hence why they are taking them out. Might save Will alot of problems in the long run...let us know how the exray goes.

Im off to snooze land any second. So tired.
Coopers poor little nose was so runny tonight and his voice was all husky. He was asleep by 8 though, but i just checked on him and he is pretty snuffly - im hoping he sleeps well!
night guys! :sleeping:

[cath]

I do remember that Tan! It's so funny how many different stages we have been through together. I forgot to tell Dean about trying the cheap nappy tonight (he gets him dressed for bed while I dress Paddy in his "special" spot in the loungeroom). I will keep your strategy in mind too. I do feel really bad sometimes for putting the poor little man back in bed when I know he is a bit wet but I am not changing sheets in there at 4am and waking Paddy (if it's really bad we get some cloth nappies we use as rags and layer them until the bed is no longer wet -poor bubba!).
That's what I was hoping for too with the Trinny and Susannah thing - I would be happy to pay for a ticket.
Good to hear all is well with the baby (and you).

Hayley you crazy woman! I can just picture you with your big pregnant belly painting windows -no ladders I hope! I hope Cooper's cold disappears very quickly for you - that's the last thing you need.

Lou that's what I've been doing too -impulse buys that are wrong. I am always rushed and have the boys distracting me and keep getting the wrong thing. Excellent about the Kitchen Aid!! I have the red one too and love it! I will have to give you my chocolate pavlova recipe - I love whipping up that in the Kitchen Aid -it is really easy and the best dessert.

Anyway off to watch Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares - does anyone watch that? It's hilarious. Chat soon.

[hayleylea]

Cath - nah no ladders - they are all at my height so dont worry about that lol. I sat on a chair for some of it too so all was good. Everyone keeps telling me how little I am and surely i cant be due soon - its driving me nuts because i just want the baby out lol. I dont need to hear that!! I think the baby is quiet happy in there now. I really thought it was near a couple of days ago but now i have my doubts.

Cath when Cooper use to wet through i use to put Nappy liners in his nappies sometimes. He only did it for a little while though.

Anyway hope everyone has a nice day!

[bingo]

Well any day now Hayley we'll be reading about your labor and the safe arrival of the baby. As you can tell we're all very anxious. :laughing:I hope that Cooper recovers from his cold very quickly for you and more importantly that you don't get it.
Tan, good to hear your bubby is doing well in there. Head up and bum down huh. Time to start playing some loud music to mix things up a bit. I still remember the day Maddi turned, I was about halfway through the pregnancy and at work. Sitting in a shared office when she decided to change position. I let out a yelp and was doubled over groaning while she flipped and flopped around trying to decide which position was most comfortable. Very embarrassing! I have no idea about those breakfast bars and sugar content, have never had one. Maddi is still eating Cheerios for breakfast and raisin toast. And even then its only every now and then. Most mornings she will not eat so I try and get her to eat a banana in the car on the way to creche.
Cath I do love to watch Ramseys kitchen although I did miss is last night. I was catching up on my recorded tv shows and missed it! I just had a look on ebay to see if anyone was selling tickets to the T&S show and there is a wanted section and some people are advertising for tickets wanted. So they are in high demand. It would be so ace to get assessed by them wouldn't it!
Last night when Tony got home Maddi was absolutely crazy. She ran around the house and was literally jumping off the walls. Tony asked me if she had had anything in it with sugar and no she hadn't. I'm pretty conscious of that and all she had had was fruit. So in the end we took her to the park where was walked a lap of the lake (its a 1.4km walk) and Maddi walked the whole way! Then she ran around the play equipment for about an hour. Getting her home was a nightmare as she just didn't want to leave. I can't imagine what would have happened if we didn't take her to burn off that energy. Where she gets it from beats me!
Well tonight we are going out for dinner for our anniversary. Tony has organised for his mum and dad to babysit which I am in shock about. But am not about to argue. I had just resigned ourselves to staying at home and celebrating another time. My MIL as you know is a nightmare and I am just dreading her comments after tonight. But I'll leave Tony to deal with her. Lets just say that if she stuffs up she won't be babysitting again. Can you believe that at the age of 2 years and 4 months this is the first time she will have babysat!
Well I better get going, so much cleaning to do and I need to get a present for Tony. Any ideas????

[hayleylea]

Lou - I cant believe your MIL hasnt baby sat Maddi before - like at all?! Oh well enjoy your night out for your anniversary! :D No ideas here for presents for Tony - my brain doesnt work much these days!! lol.

Sounds like Maddi had alot of energy last night!! She also sounds like Cooper of a morning with Breakfast. Cooper is a shocker with breakfast. Somedays i only ever manage a mouthfull of cereal or half a peice of toast. I just let him go....his not starving afterall...

Cooper just got up and doesnt seem too bad today. He has the coughs and sneezes and a runny nose but so far he is happy enough!

Anyway better go try and get him to eat some breakkie.

[cath]

Hayley I hope Cooper continues to improve for you and definitely hope you don't get the cold. I reckon that would be the worst being in labour and also coughing and having to blow your nose.

Lou that is excellent Tony has organised a night out for you:yelclap: That's what these men should be doing! That really is quite unbelievable that his parents haven't babysat for you before but knowing what a nightmare she is I can sort of understand. Have they offered at least? I so hope she keeps her mouth shut and doesn't bring you any pamphlets on anything. The bare minimum of conversation will hopefully get you by tonight (busy yourself getting ready in the bedroom when they arrive or something and leave Tony to it I say). I can't think of a present either. It is always so hard. If I think of anything I will let you know. Good luck finding something and have a nice dinner out.

Guess what?? Will slept through the night from 7:30pm to 7:45am :smiliedance: I am so happy!! He has been slowly improving this week with mostly only calling out once and now he's slept all night. He must have know we were about to make him cry. I am so gald we don't have to do that now. I am happy for him to still to wake some of the time as long as it isn't every 3-4 hours every night -it was just getting too tiring. As long as I get a decent sleep now and then I am happy. Only problem was of course that I had to get up and express at 4:45am because one of my boobs was just aching and I couldn't sleep (he didn't feed much yesterday either so I was overflowing).

Anway better get some stuff done before we head out. We are meeting a friend and her little girl at story time at the library at 11 and I've got lots to do before then. Chat soon.

[hayleylea]

Cath thats GREAT news about Will sleeping through!!!! :yelclap::smiliedance: You must be very happy!! I hope he keeps it up for you!

[Wivi]

Morning all,

Grrr- Will and Cooper have been talking. Will woke up about 8:45 last night crying and when we went in he was covered in sweat and really quite upset. After we managed to cool him off and calm him down I gave him some nurofen and he went back to sleep. I thought he sounded a bit snuffly but wasn't worried about it. Til 1:30 when he was really crying and I went in and found him totally blocked up. He went back to sleep after cuddle but was awake an hour later and was not a happy camper. I didn't think I had any demazin as it has been ages since I have had to give him anything so we mucked around with baby vicks, a drink, I lay down for a few minutes whatever. Eventually after going in and out again for another hour (and sending Troy) I went to the medicine cabinet to check and what do you know? I found demazin. What an idiot. Gave him a dose and 20 minutes later he was asleep. Til 6:45am when he woke up (told you he doesn't know how to sleep in). Anyway so we have a very snotty little boy today but he is being very good about blowing his nose etc. The demazin is on standby ( I try really hard to get to only use it at night) but I am thinking he might need a dose before his sleep today. He is so stuffed up!

Lou - I can't believe Maddi's energy! She is one little energizer bunny that's for sure! I think I'll stop complaining about Will at breakfast now - most days he still eats a reasonable amount! I hope you have a nice night out for your anniversary - and that your MIL manages to a) follow instructions and b) keep her mouth shut so that she doesn't let any offensive comments slip! I am not much help in the present department either I am afraid - these days more often than not I resort to redballoon days but I think they are really only useful in big cities! Sorry!

Cath - that's great news about Will sleeping through! YAY! What a good boy and I bet you feel great today.

OK - better get off. I am making work calls while I am on the computer, should be concentrating I think!

[hayleylea]

Hey guys

Tan - oh no about Will!! Cooper is suprsingly ok today. His nose is a bit snotty and he has a bit of a husky voice but he is generally pretty happy. Infact we went down the street cause i desperately needed groceries and something yummy to drink (i cant stop drinking at the moment lol). Anyway we ran into my sister and Cooper ran off with her and said bye bye and told me he was goign to her house....so Im Cooper free again!! im going to give him an hour play time at my sisters then ring and see how he is because he really should be wanting a sleep today...we will see though. Im actually feeling pretty sick myself - i got really hot and then felt like iw as going to throw up so an afternoon without Cooper is really a god send!

Anyway i need to go get something to eat. ill talk soon. Im with you Tan i try not to give Cooper demazin or any medicine during the day if i can help it.....i hope Will gets better soon!

[MrsMiggins]

Hi all!

Claire & Owen are just having sleeps now, after having their mate Isaak around to play this morning. I love having their friends over, because it wears them out so much!! :D Claire even asked me if she could go to bed!! Actually, she's been doing that a bit lately. Around late morning she'll ask if she can go lie down & I just open the door to our room, she goes & jumps into bed, pulls the doona up over her (we have an a/c going in there during the day) and off she goes to sleep on her own! Ask me 12 months ago if I ever thought that would happen!! :laughing: So at least I know it's only a matter of time with Owen....waiting....waiting....waiting.....!

You guys were talking about breakfast - Claire is not big on it either. All she wants to eat lately is chocolate yogos :rolleyes: So she'll normally eat 1-1.5 of those for breakfast. She's even gone off peanut butter toast. Sometimes I can get her to have a bowl of cereal, but she pretty much just eats all the milk & leaves the cereal.

Owen is good though. He normally has 1 weetbix with a banana & milk, or that Farex apricot porridge with some fruit mixed into it. Or he's also really been into those tinned diced peaches lately too. Or yogurt - he loves that too.

I get stumped what to give them for lunch though. It's too hot here for a hot lunch, but I & they get bored with sandwiches. Plus, Owen irritates me because he just chews them up & then spits them out & it's such a lot of mess to clean up! (I swear, all I do all day is clean up after that child! You've never seen a messier kid, I'm telling you!!) Owen's been having fruit for lunch & Claire will have either a peanut butter or cheese & avocado sandwich, but like I said, she is getting bored with it & it's difficult to try & get her to eat a reasonable amount.

What do you guys do for lunches? I've tried tinned baked beans & spaghetti, but Owen just makes a big mess of it & Claire wants to eat the sauce with a spoon, then leave the rest of it & it's such a waste!

Oh Hayley!!! I am reminiscing now about this time last year!! I was so convinced that Owen was going to arrive early, and there I was, due 4th March & he wasn't born til the 12th!! (I'm not saying that'll be you!! :footinmouth::D) Sorry about the text msg yesterday too!! Thought I might get the scoop, yanno!! lol

Tan, poor Will!! That's good that he's being good about blowing his nose though (makes it soooooo much easier, doesn't it?!) and good that the demazin worked last night (that stuff is magic, hey!) Hopefully he'll wake up this afternoon & be a bit better.

Lou, talk about the energizer bunny!! lol Maddi is a power-pack, that's for sure!! Like you said, good thing she ran off all that energy! Can you imagine what your night would've been like otherwise? Oh, BTW! Thanks for my cosmopolitan on Facebook! I loved it!! Pity it was only a cyber-drink though - could've done with a real one!! lol I hope you guys have a nice dinner tonight! You know, if Dave even was thoughtful enough to plan an evening out for us for our anniversary, that would have been present enough for me, but no, he didn't!! The thought would never even have crossed his mind! I'm sure things will go well with Maddi & your MIL. At least you don't have to be there with her, I guess! hopefully she'll be on her best behaviour (MIL, I mean - not Maddi!!)

Cath, HOORAY FOR WILL!!!! That must feel so good with him sleeping through! Although, not feeling so good that your boobs were nearly exploding! lol Unfortunately Owen just gave me that one night - and a false sense of hope!! I'm sure Will is a good boy & will sleep through for you now. As you said, he was kind of leading up to it, having better nights, so that's a good sign.

I'd better go. I've got a heap of mod emails to read through & then have to bring some washing in (yes!! I've been able to hang washing out - we've had 3 days now of heat & sun!! WOO-HOO!!!) I suppose I should really get myself some lunch too!

ETA: I'm just bidding on this thing on eBay, now I know they've changed a lot of the rules & feedback etc. recently, but what's the go with this one:


eBay has changed how bid history information is displayed for higher-priced items. To help keep the eBay community safe, enhance bidder privacy, and protect our members from fraudulent emails, only you and the seller of the item can view your User ID in bid history. Other members will see anonymous names.

This lot has bidding starting at 50c & is now only up to $1.26 - hardly a "higher-priced item"!! I was wondering what the go was, as the high bidder on both lots for this same seller (there are 3 lots I'm interested in) has "Bidder1" or "Bidder2" & I was thinking it was something dodgy when I noticed the little announcement at the top! I reckon a lot of eBay's changes recently are stupid!!

[hayleylea]

Fi - dont be sorry for messaging me at all!!! nice to know you all care lol. And as for you not having owen till the 12th - :dizzy:did you have to tell me that! LMAO! Well thats actually my date which is from my periods and length of my cycles. The doctors dates and ultrasound dates all point to earlier so heres hoping i dont go over the 4th!!!!!! lol...ah whatever will be will be!!!

anyway gotta go my little boy just got home and wants an iceblock!

[hayleylea]

well my little man was so tired after being at my sisters. He asked for a bottle of water - lied on the lounge and fell asleep within 2 minutes! This was at 3 oclock. I wouldnt normally let him sleep but he looked so tired and his little nose was running so i thought id give him half hour. I woke him up and he is having a snack - i dont know how ill go getting him to bed tonight - nanna naps usually stuff him up but im sure he will be fine. God love him!

ETA: Fi lunches here are pretty basic most of the time - its also alot cooler here then there so we can have stuff like chicken strips etc. But usually we just have sandwhiches, or bbq chicken on a plate (cooper has to dip it in sauce lol he loves sauce this child) He prefers the chicken to be cold. Pasta is a big lunch dish here - he loves it so any type of pasta. Sausage rolls, fruit salad, home made pizza (thats a treat), saos or salads with vegimite on them (probalby not good for a messy child LOL), Cheese and cold meat just on a plate, the list goes on. I basically just give him whatever he will eat. He is pretty good at lunch time but he mainly eats a big tea more then anything!

[bingo]

Lunch ideas hey.......yes sandwiches appear frequently here and luckily Maddi is a fan of them. To really spoil her sometimes we toast them :laughing:. Sad but oh so true. Some other items that may appear from time to time is omelette's, noodles, chips, nuggets. Lately she has been going crazy for sausage rolls when we are out shopping. She will do anything for a sausage roll or one of those mini pasties. Actually the bread rolls with cheese and bacon on top are also a hit. Not very exciting I know but I have never been a lunch person. Maddi gets her food supplied at creche and they eat really well there. Hang on I'll just have a look in her book...........ok here's a list of things they've served up so far: assorted sandwiches, mini pizza's, chicken stir fry with rice, pasta bolognase, porcupine meatballs (?), chow mein, vegie lasagna, sausage & bean bake. Maddi eats better than we do! Think I may have to start going to creche for lunch :laughing:.
Aww I wish really HARD that Maddi would go to bed and sleep during the day of her own accord. Its nearly always a fight and the only way I win is to lay down with her. I have to admit I do look forward to my nana nap and the day Maddi gives it up I will be really, really upset. Yes she is the energiser bunny and she just goes and goes and goes.
Hoorah for Will sleeping through Cath, thats so great. You must be walking around on cloud nine today. And your right I will be avoiding talking to the MIL, I will be VERY busy ;) getting ready.
Well I bought Tony a really nice pair of cufflinks and Maddi gave them to him at lunch. He tried really hard to look super excited about them but I could tell right away he didn't like them. He tried to lie and say "no I really love them". But when I pushed him he finally caved and said he had 3 different pairs and couldn't justify having another set and he'd rather we put the money towards another ring for me. I would LOVE another ring, I've been hinting at an eternity ring since Maddi was born :D. So the cufflinks will go back. I'd much rather he was honest than have them sit in a draw and not be worn. Ah well!
Alrighty better get this place semi clean for the MIL. She has offered a COUPLE of times to babysit Maddi but she really has no idea with kids and really it was never worth the pain of her criticisms. If she even attempts to give me any pamphlets or books there is going to be a very big moment!
Hayley, I'm sending you contraction vibes for a earlier birthing date rather than later. :goodvibes:

[hayleylea]

Lou - well thats great tony was honest. And you get a new ring - sounds GREAT!!!!!!!! Have a great night tonight - i hope the MIL doesnt give you too much grief after baby sitting Maddi!!!!
Coopers a big fan of the cheese and bacon breads too, and ham and cheese crossaints from the bakery if we are shopping lol. Oh and one of coopers faves are hotdogs!! Forgot to mention that one. He doesnt get them all that much but he loves them, and home made cheese burgers he would eat and eat and eat!!

Ok Trent will be home soon from work..So i better head off. Coopers watching Shark tale its a nice change from the cars movie!! lol dont get me wrong i love the cars movie but i havent actually watched shark tale through so im hoping to see it now lol

[cath]

Well I've just had 2 little boys both not eat their dinner. I don't know why I bother some days. I cut up and steamed and mushed the pumpkin today for Will to have with a little bit of chicken and broccoli and made up big batches of pasta for Paddy (normally one of the couple of dinners he will eat - he only eats about 3 different types of dinner) -what a waste of effort. Lunches here are a similar story to dinner - there's maybe 3-4 things Paddy will eat and that's it. Grilled cheese on toast, vegemite or peanut butter sandwiches, fruit and yogurt and sadly enough a cheeseburger and chips from McDonalds if we get slack and have it. Drives me nuts!! I would love a kid who eats anything. It's not looking too good for Will at this stage but it is early days I guess.

Hayley that's great you got some time out again. Good luck getting Cooper to bed.

Lou have a great night out. You made the effort for Tony and I'm sure he appreciates that (and that is so nice really that he want's to use the money to get you a ring instead!).

Fi that is so cool that Cliare asks to go and lie down! It is amazing the difference between baby sleep behaviour and toddler sleep behaviour (well sometimes!). I'm pretty sure Will's sleep through was a bit of a one off too and I'm not banking on that being the normal thing from now on in but as long as I get the occasional good night that will be great.

Tan I hope Will is okay. That Demazin is definitely great stuff! I was giving it to Paddy during the day with his last cold and it really helped to stop his nose running as much. I hope you don't get sick too! Nothing worse than being pregnant and sick.

Anway I'd better start getting things ready for bath/bedtime for the boys. Bloody Dean has just informed me he will be home at 6:45. I am STILL battling to get him to go to work early and come home early:hissy: I had to shove him out of bed at 7:45 this morning. Thank goodness at least he is now in bed with me. If he didn't have someone to poke him who knows what time he would be getting up. Once again I will be talking about this bloody annoying issue with him tonight (what is it about Friday's - it is always on a Friday).

Have a good weekend everyone.

[Wivi]

Hey there,

I hope Lou has headed out on her night out and is enjoying herself. I also hope that Maddi was happy enough to be left with the MIL for a while! Lou - that's fantastic about the ring. I have had thoughts about an eternity ring recently (we've been married 9 years, I think I am probably entitled to one :laughing:) but I am actually too nervous to bring it up. I don't know what Troy would think, I'm not really one for asking for stuff like that.

Cath - you poor thing making all that effort to make those dinners only to have your boys not eat them! I hate that. Thankfully unless Will is sick he usually eats most meals - bar things with creamy sauces but I am learning! Tonight Will didn't eat his dinner, he just cried and then ate his way through 3 tubs of vanilla yoghurt so I am pretty sure he probably has a sore throat along with his cold.

The lunchtime meals are pretty boring at our house too. Some of you serve up serious gourmet compared to what I offer Will! He usually just has either a hot cross bun (thing of the moment) or a sandwich (either meat and sauce or stuff like jam, peanut butter, honey or vegemite) and some fruit or yoghurt. He often has 2 lunches - one before he goes to bed and then another one when he gets up as Troy eats lunch late and Will likes to share whatever Troy is eating. That could be tuna, tomato and wholegrain toast or chicken and salad. I never even think to give Will hot food at lunch.

Hayley - the date thing is a tricky one isn't it? Mine are all pretty close which is a good thing cause I would hate to be so unsure of the date. Especially as last time I think I pretty much had a spontaneous labour (no warning at all!) so I'd like to have a reasonable idea. How funny about Cooper falling asleep like that - I hope he goes off to bed ok tonight.

I'm actually at my friend Lisa's place tonight minding her little one for the last time :(. Normally she would come to our place but as Will is sick we decided that it would be a lot better if I just came over here. They move on Tuesday and a sick little girl would be a nightmare I think. It's funny Cath - whenever Will is sick it doesn't even occur to me that I might get it. I think about passing it on to everyone else but not me!

Yeah, I think the demazin is pretty good. Will was actually not too bad this afternoon after a dose at lunch but by dinner he was getting pretty bad again. I admit to being a bit worried about croup as when he cried at dinner he started to wheeze a bit and that always bothers me. Anyway, I had to leave when Troy was bathing him so I hope he has gone off to bed ok and I really hope he sleeps better tonight. I'm going to be here til quite late and I really don't think I could manage another badly disturbed night.

Ok - better go for now. Hope you are all having a nice evening. We haven't heard from Renee for a few days I hope everything is good with her.

[hayleylea]

Cath - sorry to hear your boys wouldnt eat their dinner.Its so frustrating when that happens isnt it!!!! As for Dean - yep id be shoving him out of the bed earlier if i was you! lol. I suppose the good thign with Trent is that he has no choice but to go to work at 6am - at the moment its 6-6 but I dont mind that because he only lives 5 minutes away from home...but also because he only works 4 days and has 5 days off! BLISS!

Tan - yummmmmm Hot cross buns!!! I love hot cross buns. Glad Will was a little better - even though he didnt eat his dinner. Poor little guy. Cooper has woke up with a nasty cough and is pretty snotty but he tells me he is OK and it doesnt seem to be bothering him at all! he is such a funny kid sometimes! He looks sick, and you can tell that the cough hurts him and the nose is annoying but he refuses to let me think his sick because he is scared he will miss out on something!! im hoping i dont get it..so far so good though.

Baby is quiet today, actually been quiet the last few days. I get so worried when its quiet then BANG a big kick up the ribs LMAO.

Anyway I better go....we arent doing much today just staying at home...but i need to put some washing on.

talksoon

[MrsMiggins]

Thanks for the lunch ideas guys! I have to admit, I'm pretty lazy with it! Before I had kids, I had all these visions of me being some 50's housewife, making a cooked breakfast for all the family before they headed off to work or school, doing all the housework, cooking elaborate dinners - a new & exciting meal every night.... :laughing: I've no idea where I thought I was going to get all this time from!!! I'm flat out making sandwiches for my two (but that's partially because I know it's not going to be eaten & therefore not worth the effort). I will often not bother & then just get them each something from the shop to eat while I do the groceries (I do the shopping most days - it's our afternoon out!) Claire is a big fan of those cheese & bacon rolls too, and even moreso, the cheese & mushroom ones from Baker's Delight. (She loves mushies!!) But lately all she does is eat half the topping off, then chuck it onto the ground, which annoys me because it's such a waste of money!! Those rolls are expensive! Even if she just ate the top off it & gave it back to me it'd be no big deal, because Owen would happily eat (ie: make a mess of) the rest of it.

I am at my wits end with Claire's eating - she used to eat anything & everything and lots of it! Now she hardly eats anything all day. I'm seriously thinking I'm going to have to put some pentavite in her water bottle or something.

Hey, guess what?!! Dave put an A/C in Owen's room today!! YAY!!! When I was feeding him before his nap this morning, OMG it was soooooo much better in there!! It's very, very hot today. So I'm hoping he'll have a big sleep - he sleeps so much better when it's cooler (dare I hope for a full night tonight??!! :eek:) We had two window units we had in the garage, which we'd taken out of the old place. We out one in our window a while back & we have that on during the day & Claire sleeps in our bed. We were wanting to put one in Owen's but weren't sure if the window was suitable. Plus, the only place we could put it meant that it'd blow straight onto the cot & we couldn't put the cot anywhere else. But we worked it all out & now it's in there - hooray!!!

Lou, Maddi does eat well at creche!! Yummo!! (BTW, those porcupine things are just meatballs covered in rice - they're yummy!!) The childcare I want to put the kids into has hot lunches provided every day (Hmmm... I was thinking about putting them in for 2 days a week... maybe I should go for 5!! lol) Awww! That was nice of Tony to pretend to be excited about the cuff links! Dave would just go "Oh, that's nice... thanks...." lol Hey - at least you get a nice ring out of it!! :smiliedance: I got an eternity ring the first Xmas after Claire was born. I had actually said several times before that I didn't want one, as I thought they looked silly (the engagement, wedding & eternity rings all together) but then I realised I really did want one! :o But I figured I couldn't say anything. When I was having one of my scans with Claire, the sonographer said to Dave "Oh, look at that due date! Perfect timing for an eternity ring for Xmas!!" (Good on him!! And it was a guy too!!) So whaddya know, I got one! And a really, really nice one too!

Hayles, Oh, I just don't want to keep bugging you!! lol I know it feels nice to be cared about though - I felt the same when you guys were asking about me this time last year! :) So cute about Cooper & his nanna nap!!

Cath, don't worry! I feel your frustration about the meal times, DH coming home late, routines with the two kids!! I hear you, mate!! I hear you!! :hugs:

Tan, I hope you have a good time tonight minding your friend's little girl. Isn't it sad when friends move away!

All righty! I'm going to muck around on facebook some more while the kids are still asleep! (I should really be getting the washing in, but it can wait!!)

[hayleylea]

Fi - another lunch time hit here is macaroni and cheese - Cooper had it for lunch today and had seconds. Its one meal i can get him to have (i know its not the healthiest but he loves it lol). Sorry to hear Claire has gone fussy. Cooper is fussy with vegies (except peas he loves peas!) So i have to hide vegies lol...but apart from that he really isnt too bad at dinner time. Like i said Breakfast is a real struggle some days but i just offer it and if he doesnt eat it dont make a big deal out of it and try again the next day. Im over being frustrated about it. lol.

Little bugger refused a day sleep today. He was in bed for an hour and i heard him talking to his teddies the whole time. Then he yelled out to me and told he he had had his sleep when i knew full well he hadnt :devil: So i let him get up and put him on the lounge and told him he wasnt to move until i told him could. He spent another half hour there and then i let him up. He is outside playing now. He has been good but no doubt will be tired and cranky this arvo but there will be no Nanna nap today just an early night :yes:

Your not bugging me either Fi - im just as anxious as you guys are believe me....not as anxious as my MIL though!! she goes away on the 7th of march so she is hoping for an early arrival because she is going on a cruise for a month!!!!! She was asking if i have tried any alternatives today to get it out lol...I said no - not really my thing...hmmm god knows what she will put in my dinner tommorrow night :laughing::p

Anyway we have got a fair bit of work done around the house today. All the sheets washed plus another load of washing and packed up the rest of my clothes (but a few different things that ill be wearing in the next week or 2), and some more boxes and our rooms just about done. Only trents clothes to go - but he can do that! haha.

talk soon.

[Wivi]

Hello all,

As far as toddlers go I think Will generally eats fairly well, although he's been a bit of a monkey lately. Right now it has more to do with him being a bit sick but generally I think his fussiness is just him attempting to assert some independence. I am trying not to get frustrated with him as what he does it is good food and not rubbish, but I can tell you that I agree with Fi, where are the days where they ate anything and everything?

Well - my friends didn't get home til 1am last night and I am absolutely stuffed today. It wasn't their fault, it was a farewell dinner from his work and their mains weren't served til 10:15pm! They did let me know what was happening and offered that I could crawl into their spare bed if I wanted but I couldn't bring myself to do it.

Mr Will is still snuffly, but with the demazin and some nurofen he went to bed at 7 and didn't get up til 7:30 this morning! (That's almost unheard of these days). He still had a day sleep of 1.5 hours too so I guess he must be feeling a bit better.

Bummer about Cooper not having a day sleep Hayles. I guess chatting to his toys for an hour is still a break for you though. No day sleep is still such a scary thought to me - if I had my way, Will would still be having a day sleep when he was 4! (Not that I imagine that'll happen). What do you put in your macaroni and cheese? It's something I suspect Will would eat.

OK - gotta go. Troy's finally come home from his meeting and I would really like to have a nap!

[hayleylea]

Tan - go and get yourself a well deserved Nap. Im Glad Will is sleeping well for you even though he is sick!! AS for the day sleeps yeah it doesnt really bother me aslong as he has some kind of rest...or break lol. I still put him down most days and if it happens it happens if it doesnt it doesnt (majority of the time he will sleep) I think its because he has missed 2 days and thinks he doesnt need one. He will get back to it though.

AS for my macaroni and cheese - i just use a basic recipe...nothing flash. Macaroni, butter, flour, milk, grated cheese, and some parsley - i also put frozen vegies in it sometimes or peas lol. Cooper is a HUGE pasta fan he would eat it every day! I have also used the kraft pasta meals that you just put in the microwave (when im being lazy!!!!!!!! or when i was sick i used them a fair bit) and he eats them too.But i rather cook it myself.

OK better go.

[MrsMiggins]

:):):) (They are the peas!! lol)

Peas are the one veggie that Claire has decided she hates!!! Very strange, as both Dave & I really like them (they are one of the few veggies Dave has no problem with!)

It's so funny because we still give them to her every time we have them (which is quite a bit), but she eats around them. If we try to hide them, she always manages to find them & pull them out!!

Tan, are you having a nanna nap now?! Sounds like you need one!! Wow! Imagine going to some function or other & not getting you rmain meal til 10.15!!! I'd be starving by then!! lol

Can you believe Owen is still asleep??! He's been down since 10.30! That A/C must be working wonders!! I can only hope this hasn't ruined him for tonight :eek: I want to go up to BigW this afternoon & layby a slide for the kids, so I hope he wakes up soon (the slide is the Hills one that goes with our swing set & it's on sale for only $68!!! BARGAIN!!)

[hayleylea]

Fi Coopers like that with other vegies he will eat around them. Even if i disguise some corn or something in mash potatoe he will find it! HAHA!

WOW what a good sleep for Owen!!

Im having a few pains at the moment - just normal though i think dont think its anything to suggest labour (although that would be nice!:yes:)

Coopers watching Elmo - he loves elmo and got a 3 pack of DVDs for christmas off the MIL and they are excellent!! Giving me a break for awhile anyway!!

[hayleylea]

Well Cooper was in bed by 7 last night. And he fell asleep straight away - but he freaked me out about 8.15 last night. He let out an all mighty scream and Trent had gone down the street to get icecream so i ran in and he was sitting up in his bed absolutley screaming and shaking his arms about and just crying and crying and crying. His little lip was quivering he was that scared..he must have had a nightmare and a really bad one at that. He kept saying TEDDY TEDDY TEDDY and then pointing all around his room like he didnt know where he was. But he was just hysterical. I picked him up and brought him out in the lounge room and he was shaking!!! I thought maybe he was running a temp so i checked that but it was ok so i figure it was just a bad dream. I gave him a cuddle for about 10 minutes till he finally calmed down and then he wanted his daddy and then come back to me and told me he wanted to go to bed. So i put him back into bed and he woke up happy as larry this morning at 7.30 and his cold is much better today too. It was a weird night. I kept checking on him because i was worried about him that he had taken a turn or something and it wasnt a nightmare but now im just putting it down to night terrors.

No news here with the baby had some bad pains last night that didnt eventuate into anything. Its hard not to know when my due date actually is. One of them is for tommorrow - Bring it on I say :D Not up to much today. Trents at work till 2 and then we are going to take some boxes out to our house, and then back home to the MILs for dinner.

Hope everyone has a great sunday.

Renee - i hope everything is ok with you?? havent heard from you for awhile.

Anna - you must be a busy bee again.

And Nat if your managing to get on here from time to time i hope everything is going well with you and teh boys!

[MrsMiggins]

And just when I thought we'd managed to dodge a bullet - I've been up half the night with a chucky Owen!! Poor thing! He was running a temp when I put him to bed, so I gave him a dose of nurofen (that temp could well have been from teething - he has a molar & maybe his missing front tooth breaking through). Then he woke up at 1am really unsettled, but I managed to get him back down. Then at 3 he woke up crying & when I went into his room, there was a little foamy, white spew on his sheets. So I got him up, changed his sheets, fed him, but he wouldn't go back to sleep. He ran around his room for a while (perfectly happy) then wanted to climb back up onto my lap. So I fed him again & he just looked up at me, smiled, then projectile vomited all over me, himself, the chair, the floor, the wall...... I got Dave up and he helped me clean it all up (while Owen had another chuck all over the floor!) & I took Owen into the shower. He loves the shower though, so it was hard to get him out!! He was so tired afterwards, so I got him changed & cuddled him off to sleep. I put him in his cot & he lay there for a while, then started smiling & chatting to me & putting his arms up to be picked up, so I picked him up & he chucked all over us & the floor again!! So changed him again, got him back to sleep, then I went & had a shower again before finally going back to bed! I thought after all that, he might have a sleep in, but no :no: up at 7!!

He hasn't chucked again this morning, so hopefully that will be the end of it :fingerscrossed:

Hayles, I'm glad Cooper is happier again this morning after his fright!

[hayleylea]

Oh Fi! Poor little owen and you guys!!!! Cooper hasnt even had a spewy bug thankfully!!!!!! I hope he has it all out of his system now!!!!

:hugs:

[bingo]

Oh poor little Owen and poor you guys. I know what its like to have to clean up vomits in the middle of the night and its not much fun at all. If its the same vomit bug that Maddi had she had the vomits for one night, then was fine for a few days then had high temps for another few days with no other symptoms. A very strange virus!
Hayley I was so sure I was going to get on here today and hear that you were in hospital giving birth. I don't know why but I just had a feeling you were going to have your baby this weekend. Ah well, so much for that! Night terrors started in our house a few months ago and I'm finding we have to be so aware of what may scare Maddi as it really is starting to affect her.
We had some good friends come and stay last night which was so good. We had a lovely dinner at home and some wine and Maddi just ran around silly until 10.30pm. Dale got into Maddi's tube and pretended he was a big worm. Maddi started laughing hysterically then when he started moving towards her she got scared and told Dale "I'm sorry Dale but your scaring me". It was so cute and she gave us all the impression that she hated to spoil his fun in telling him to stop. So, so very funny. Especially when you've had a few wines. We all got up this morning and headed into town for lunch and a play in the park then they headed back home. It was such a nice relaxing time and Maddi just loves them both. Hopefully she will be worn out and go to bed early!
Tan I hope Will is feeling better for you. Demazin is a winner in this hose and also Tyxilix which is fantastic for coughs at night.
Well I better go. Lots of cleaning to do after our visitors.
Oh I nearly forgot - our dinner out on Friday night went well. The MIL was on her best behavior and Maddi was a gem for them. She was asleep on the couch when we got home. So yes, we may be able to go out a lot more often which is lovely. As long as the MIL keeps her opinions to herself we should be fine.

[hayleylea]

Lou - you know what!? i thought i would go this weekend too!!Oh well not to worry, there is always tonight lol. I had really bad pains for about 15 minutes down at the MILs for dinner and thought maybe that was it but they have since stopped....so thats a shame. Oh well bubs will come when its ready. I have a cold! yes Cooper decided to share his germs and i feel like total ****. It come on this afternoon and i havent stopped sneezing and blowing my nose! I might sneeze this baby out of me yet....:laughing: I shouldnt joke cause i really do feel like ****. Im just about to go have a hot shower to make me feel better

night guys.

ETA: almost forgot to say how glad i am that the MIL baby sitting went well!!! Good girl Maddi! :flowerz:

[MrsMiggins]

Oh no Hayles!! I hope you can hang onto the bub until your cold gets better!! (OMG! I think I would have had a cold this time last year too!! I was worried about having a cold when my bub was born!!)

Lou, that is great about your MIL doing a good job!!

Damn! Owen just woke up! I'll be back later!

[MrsMiggins]

Well, I've just spent about half an hour trying to get him back down. He'll go to sleep in my arms, but opens his eyes as soon as I lay him in his cot. Then I'll manage to get him to go to sleep in his cot, but he instantly wakes up the second I try to open the door! :hair: Grrrr!!! I just sent Dave in because I give up!!

He was fine today, BTW. He only chucked up til 4.30 or whatever it was this morning & then he didn't vomit again for the rest of the day. Thank god!!

Anyway! As I was saying!! Lou, that's great about your MIL. At least now you guys know you can use her if you want to have a night out. (Make sure you book a few dinners in & take advantage of it!)

Hayles, do you feel like you could go now? I know when I was PG with Owen, the whole PG I thought he would come early, until I got towards the end & I dunno - he just didn't feel ready to come out, IYKWIM?

(hmmmm.... gone quiet now down the hallway, I wonder if Owen's going to sleep?)

[hayleylea]

Anyone know a good plumber????? My nose has been Running NONSTOP all night!!! i feel like ive been hit in the head with a hammer the whole night too!!!! I havent stopped sneezing all night either and have had about 3 hours sleep!!!!!

Cooper woke up at 11.30 coughing his little lungs out and i went in and he spewed up a whole heap of flem! So i cleaned him up and put him back to bed but i just couldnt get to sleep with this nose and headache (im a whinger arent I>!) but everytime i sneezed my tummy hurt!!

Fi - hope you managed to get Owen to sleep last night. As for feeling as if i could go? yep i feel like i could go anytime. I honestly thought last night might have been the night. At my mother inlaws i felt the hugest pain down there and it was like a ripping sensation and i had pains all night on and off (not consistent and didnt really feel like contractions buti thought it could be it) but nothing!!! Like i said it will come when its ready and id rather it stay away now till i get rid of this dreadfull cold!

Anyway better head off. Cooper actually ate 2 peices of toast for me today SHOCK HORROR lol. OH well atleast he is feeling better!!! Im off to have a hot shower and try and clear this head of mine!

[Wivi]

Oh dear Hayles! That runny nose does not sound pleasant at all. I hope it dries up soon.

Does anyone want a very cranky little boy? I think Will had his first real tanty this morning. He told me he wanted to do a wee and when we went to the bathroom he went off his nut because he wanted to do his wee on the potty and I said no. (he's been weeing on the toilet for ages, I wasn't going back to the potty). I have to admit I wasn't sure what to do because I thought if I put him anywhere like the naughty spot he would wee on the floor so in the end I said "are you going to do a wee?" and he said "no" and I took him off the toilet. He then asked for his "special sticker" which I said he couldn't have because he didn't do a wee and then he hopped back on the toilet without a fuss and did it. I have no idea what that was all about, but the tears the first time around! My goodness - you would have thought he had fallen down the stairs or something!

Fi - I hope Owen is feeling a lot better for you - and that he went back to sleep last night at a reasonable time. Cheeky boy.

Hayley - Will has coughed up phlegm big time before and then been much better the next day. I hope Cooper is feeling heaps better and is being a very good boy for you - I think you need some rest today!

Lou - :smiliedance: that Maddi was good for your MIL and that your MIL managed to be on her best behaviour as well. Who would have thought you would hit the jackpot with both at once! I have to tell you I was watching Monsters Inc on Sat night and the little girl in it made me think of Maddi heaps. It brought an extra smile to my face!

OK I have to go - think Will probably needs some lunch and bed. Hopefully he will find his happy pants in bed somewhere.

[Katcha]

Hey all, just popping in to say that I'm still around even though I've gone a bit AWOL recently. Sorry I haven't had time to catch up on posts. All's going OK here. I have my 1st ob appointment tomorrow. I'm actually taking the whole day off work tomorrow so that'll be a nice little break. My m/s seems to have gone, although I do feel a bit yuck sometimes & haven't been able to eat as much as usual.
Anyhoo, that's all for me for now....

Oh & Hayley, how you doing? I keep hoping to get an SMS from you to say that bubs is on his/her way!

[hayleylea]

Tan - nope im no good at all. It hasnt eased up any. Im sure this baby is coming to come out with any sneeze now!!

Sorry to hear Will has his cranky pants on!!! hope he finds his happy ones during his sleep. Im hoping Cooper has a sleep today. Im about to get him some lunch now too. he has been good today......his a bit snotty but not too bad!!!

Anyway i really gotta go...this nose is driving me insane!

[MrsMiggins]

Hi all.

No, unfortunately Owen didn't manage to get to sleep last night til almost 11pm, and then I had to get up 3 or 4 times during the night for him. Poor little mite is quite sick now. :( Looks like he has a nasty cold, plus he also had another (small) vomit last night (not sure what that's about??), he's still getting at least one, probably 2 teeth through and just for the icing on the cake, he had a cut on his knee, which looks as though it might be infected. :( It's all red & puffy (no pus though, so I dunno... I've just been putting heaps of dettol on it).

He woke up happy & everything this morning, even though he was all stuffed up & had snot everywhere (sorry for the graphic!!) but he just wasn't well, so I took Claire to playgroup & left Owen with Dave. We had a teddy bear's picnic day today so Claire really wanted to go. We took Owen's teddy for him (the fireman one mum & dad brought back from America for him) and Fireman Ted won the prize for best dressed teddy! The prize was a teddy bear outfit from Pumpkin Patch! So that was nice.

I had them both booked into the creche at the gym this afternoon, but I cancelled for Owen & dropped Claire back from 4.30-6.30 to 5.30-6.30 instead. Now I'm wondering if I should go at all?

While we were at playgroup, Dave took Owen for a walk in the pram & he went to sleep, then slept some more when he got home. He woke up before & I fed him & he went back to sleep (bit of a battle, but he went down eventually). He keeps stirring now & going back to sleep. I'm hoping he'll sleep for ages. He really needs it.

Anyway, he'll be OK. :yes:

Hey, I forgot to tell you guys!!! You know how I did jury duty last year? Well I got called up again!! I sent the thing back saying I'd do it. It's meant to start March 24th, I think? So we'll see if I get through the 2nd ballot. I hope so!

I'm also feeling good about an eBay win this morning! I'd been looking at these Curious George cars (Claire has a thing for CG at the moment) and the seller is on the sunny coast. So I bid on them a while ago & got outbid. Then they were re-listed, so I bid again & this time I won all 3! :D Plus she also has a singing Dorothy the Dinosaur going. Hopefully I can win that one as well:fingerscrossed:.

Renee, I'm so glad things are going well with your PG! How exciting about your first OB appt! Are you going private? I went public & did shared care both times & I didn't get to see the OB til about 26 weeks. Hopefully that remaining yucky feeling will go away very soon for you.

Lou, I don't know what made me think of it this morning (while I was making breakfast!) but I totally forgot to say how funny (and CUTE!!) that was about Maddi saying "Sorry, but you're frightening me!" She is so gorgeous!!!

Hayles, you poor thing!!! Sending you heaps of good germies to battle with the bad ones!!! :goodvibes: You definitely want to shake this thing before the baby comes!! I hope you're feeling better soon & for crying out loud woman - PUT YOUR FEET UP & TAKE IT EASY!!! (That is a direct order from Dr Fiona!!)

ETA: Sorry Tan!! I totally missed your post! Not sure how I managed that one!

Sorry Will is cranky. Hopefully it was just that one incident. (It's OK - Claire has a hundred of those "battle of wills" type tantrums a day! It's very wearying!!) Yeah, I don't know what I would've done there, that's a tricky one. I think if he eventually went on the toilet with no worries, then you've handled it very well!

[Wivi]

Oh dear - poor Owen Fi! He must have a yucky virus or something. I don't know how you function on such little sleep. Especially running around after Claire at the same time!

Yes I don't know what it is with Will at the moment. Like I said to Hayles today he seems to be really testing things at the moment, but only with me. It's very annoying as Troy keeps pointing out that he doesn't have any trouble with Will and implies that I must have been getting too soft lately or something. :banghead: I can't wait til the tables turn. Mind you - Troy seems to be copping any TT accidents lately which I find rather amusing as he just panicks when it happens.

Renee - so good to hear you are ok! I hope that Ob appt goes well for you. Here's hoping the "yucky" feeling is a good sign as so many people say.

I have to have a bit of a PG whinge. I promise it will be a little one. Because this baby doesn't appear to have turned all the weight is down really low and so are all the movements. Somehow it seems to feel like the baby is going to push it's way out through my skin! The baby nurse scared me last week - she told me if the baby hadn't turned at 32 weeks then they'll start talking about an ECV - where they try to manually turn the baby around. I am so not looking forward to that! I think even if the baby turns on it's own now it is going to be rather uncomfortable - there's not much room in there. So anyway - that's my whinge. I feel like I have a sack of potatoes in my lap - well pushing on my groin actually!

OK going to get off now. Want to look up some stuff.

[bingo]

I'm being really naughty at work but just had to catch up on the news in case you were "in action" Hayley.
Tan, don't know if your into alternate therapies but have you looked up acupuncture for turning babies around? I see an acupuncturist and she was heavily pregga's while she was treating me and said she had used it on herself to turn the baby and was planning on using it in the hospital while she was in labor. Could be something to look into if you want to avoid what the Midwife was suggesting?
And yes - funny you should mention it but Maddi does get called Boo by a lot of our friends that think she is off Monsters inc. She even has the Boo toy where she is dressed up as Sully's niece.

[Katcha]

Hayley, sorry that you're feeling pretty crappy. Hope you're feeling better soon. Take it easy.

Fi, sorry to hear that Owen hasn't been well. The teddy bear's picnic sounded fun & how cute Claire's teddy winning the best dressed teddy award! Oh & yep I'm going private, just like when I was pregnant with Katelyn.

Tan, when I was pregnant with Katelyn she never turned around. My ob said that if she didn't turn then I would need a c-section, which is what ended up happening. He didn't even suggest manually turning her, which sounds quite scarey to me! But I have heard of bubs not turning until really late, so maybe just because bubs hasn't turned by 32 weeks it doesn't necessarily mean it won't. Oh, & I know what you mean about the movements being all down low! Katelyn used to love to kick me right in the bladder all the time....cheeky little thing with her poor mum preggers & already needing to pee all the time! :laughing:

[hayleylea]

Fi - i hope owen gets better soon. Poor little thing. And yes Doctor Fiona im taking it easy!! I promise :D

Lou - Maddi does look like Boo doesnt she! how cute!!! i didnt even think of that hehe.

Tan - you poor thing - I have heard of them manually turning babies and im sorry to say that the few people who have had it happen say it hurts!! So hopefully bubs turns itself for you!!!!! my friends SIL got told to crawl around on the floor to try and get it to turn around NO JOKE! :laughing: It didnt work though and ended up in Csection. But Thats not saying that you will end up with a C section - your doc sounds pretty good i hope they can do something that doesnt cause too much pain!

Renee - so glad to hear everything is going well with you - goodluck tommorrow and im glad the MS is gone...well mostly anyway!!

Im still feeling like ****. I managed to get dressed and out of my pjs and i even went down the street to get some things for dinner but that was a short trip because i couldnt stop sneezing and i felt like **** again. So im back home on the lounge. Trent and Cooper are outside working on something.

Anyway talk soon.

[Wivi]

Yeah - I don't know why the nurse said 32 weeks, when I looked it up it said babies can turn up til 35 weeks so I don't know what the story is. I guess I'll wait til my next Ob appt and see what he says. My Ob is really into natural and alternative therapies (Amazing huh!) so I am sure he would be happy for me to try acupuncture or anything like that. I'm happy to look at whatever I can, I was a breech birth (VB at that!) and my mum had the ECV but I just turned myself right back to the breech position anyway.

We'll have to see what happens.

[hayleylea]

yeah tan - not much you can do. Just see what the doc says next visit and maybe look into the acupunture thing. Cant hurt!!

Still feeling pretty yucky at the moment, Trents at work and im keeping Cooper up till 8 cause he isnt looking real tired and he had a big sleep considering we didnt do much today lol. He has been pretty good though. Got a few pains happening which is usual at this time of the night...dont think its anything to get excited about though... I went down the street and got the softed tissues i could find for my nose lol. So hopefully them and the paw paw cream will help me to look a little less like rudolf tommorrow.

Anyway hope everyone has a good night.

Talk soon.

[bingo]

:hugs:Oh Hayley, sending you lots of get well wishes fast! You really need your sleep to keep your energy up.
Renee - great to hear from you and that the MS is backing off a bit. Have a great day off tomorrow. Anything planned or just a nice quiet day of reading and relaxing? Wish it was me!
Geez Fi, Owen is having a tough time isn't he. did you go to gym in the end? Hopefully he'll get over this hurdle and come good tonight. You must be so tired! Maddi LOVES George too. I made her a tshirt transfer with him on it and we've got the movie which is pretty funny. Such a good cartoon - I'm a fan too.

[cath]

Just a really quick hello from me to let you know that I have been reading along but haven't had time to post. I have just started listing all the stuff I have cleared out of my wardrobe on ebay and it is going to take me ages so better get back to it.

Just wanted to say Hayley I am thinking of you and I so hope that bloody cold disappears very, very soon. The days are ticking by and that little baby will be here very soon -I am so excited for you.

Renee good luck with your appointement tomorrow.

Tan that sounds a bit nuts that they would be turning a baby at 32 weeks -sounds early!

Lou I love the story about Maddi being scared of your friend and telling him so - she is a classic!

Fi I hope Owen is okay -poor little man (and poor you -sounds like quite the ordeal).

Anna how is everything going with you? Hope all is well.

Okay I've really got to get back to it.I will check in again soon.

[hayleylea]

Well im still going. This cold is still here but i managed to get a bit of sleep last night.

Have a few pains on and off but again nothing happening - have to ring up and get a docs appointment today cause i forgot to make it last time i was in and you can only ring up on the day if you dont make it ahead of time! (STUPID!) So i might find out of he or she is completley ready to make an appearance or not!

Cath sounds like your doing well getting your wardrobe ready. Goodluck with Ebay.

Anyway better head off and get some breakkie together.

[hayleylea]

Just having a vent about our "new Hospital" it has been featured on the news alot latley due to its faults etc etc etc. Sewarge through the maternity ward the first week it opened, operating theatres not metting standards etc etc etc - the list goes on.

Anyway - i just heard on the radio that they are urging all pregnant women of our town to go see the doctor if there is a chance of c-section as they wont do them at the hospital! WTF This is a brand new hospital! So women who have been booked in for a Csection now have to travel to either town outside of bathurst. And if its an emergency they rush you by ambulance - Now if all goes to plan ill be having a Vaginal birth anyway but this is just plain stupid!

Anyway thats my rant for the morning. Have a docs appointment at 10.30 so ill see what he says.

[jobaby73]

popping in to check up on Ms Hayley as i know you are due soon.
thinking of you and hoping to catch up soon. although i know you are going to be rushed off your feet before too long.

waves hello to everyone else.
well off again to play feed and deal with the girls.

[Wivi]

Alrighty - Hayley went to the doctor for check up at 10:30 and we haven't heard from her since! Hmm - hope she is ok. No txt messages so I guess she must be.

[hayleylea]

haha im still here Tan - went to the doc at 10.30 and things are pretty much the same as last week. I thought for sure id be a bit closer. Mind you i went to the toilet and had a lot more show today - just yellowish greenish thick jelly stuff (sorry if TMI) and have had numerous bowel movements - pains but like i say every day im not getting my hopes up.

Cooper went to my mums today for the day and night and will come home tommorrow arvo. Im having some R&R by myself which im looking forward too. Trent and I went and had a nice lunch today which was good...then to our house where i just bummed around on the lounge not having to get up and run around after Cooper. I do miss the little guy but i must say i am enjoying my rest!!

unfortunatley i got some sad news that one of my best friends Nans passed away so thats no good. She actually passed away friday but things have been hectic and she couldnt tell me till today (she lives on an island and had to get back here etc) The funeral is tommorrow and i would love to go but i dont really think driving down to lithgow is in my best interest. My friend understands....

Anyway im off. Trents about to go to work and then i have the house to myself! :D

Talk soon.

[hayleylea]

jo - meant to say Hi to you too. Thanks for checking on me. Im still hanging in there!

[hayleylea]

Bad news. Cooper had my mobile this morning....my stupid fault because he wanted to play with it so i turned it off and gave it to him. And now i cant find it ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good timing huh?! ive looked everywhere and cant find it. Having a rest now will go through his room again later.

So cranky when i was having a night at home to relax!!!!

note to self - do not give Cooper mobile again!

[hayleylea]

found my phone in his little work boot! Cheeky bugger :raspberry:

[MrsMiggins]

Phew!!!

I'm glad you found it Hayles, because I reckon your time is coming up either tonight or tomorrow!! (Dr Fiona moonlights as Fiona the Magnificent - Fortune Teller Extraodinaire by night! ;))

Can't stay & post (we've had a shocker of a day here!!) but hopefully I'll be back on later.

[hayleylea]

Phew!!!

I'm glad you found it Hayles, because I reckon your time is coming up either tonight or tomorrow!! (Dr Fiona moonlights as Fiona the Magnificent - Fortune Teller Extraodinaire by night! ;))

Can't stay & post (we've had a shocker of a day here!!) but hopefully I'll be back on later.

oh god I hope so Fi but im not as sure about that as you!! Please fortune tella Fiona be right :laughing:

[cath]

Quick hello again (Dean is cooking dinner which will be ready in 5 minutes hopefully).

Good work finding the phone Hayley - now is not the time to go losing it. Cheeky Cooper putting it in his shoe. I'm with Fi and have a feeling it will be any day now. Enjoy your night of rest.

We had Paddy screaming at 12:30 last night which of course woke Will up and then it was a real battle to get Will back to sleep. Paddy has this new thing where if he feels upset he will instantly start saying "tissue" even if he isn't crying. So we were woken up by the screaming of "tissue,tissue". Not sure what was gonig on - maybe a bad dream. He went back to sleep okay after a bit of reassurance but unfortunately created chaos with his little brother. Oh - I was right by the way - Will sleeping through the night was a one off and every night is different to the last. At least there are now some okay ones in there.

Anyway dinner is ready. Will hopefully get on again tomorrow if Dean's parents have Paddy.

Good luck if it is tonight Hayley!

[Wivi]

Ok Hayles - glad to hear you had a good day relaxing. Also glad to hear that Cooper has stayed at your Mum's for the night - I think Fi might be right and tonight might just be the night!

:shame: Don't you ever give Cooper your mobile again! Well - not til after you've had the baby and come home again! How would you text us?

Well - we've had a pretty good day here. Will went off to daycare from 9 til 3 which was bliss, apparently he had a good day and managed to have a nap in the pram while he was there. Our only drama of the whole day was a poo issue. I think I have mentioned that Will seems a bit afraid of doing a poo on the toilet/potty? Well this morning he got up and hadn't done one in his night nappy which is unusual. I wondered what would happen given that he was going to daycare so I told them about it. Anyway - he didn't go at daycare and he didn't have any accidents but apparently he did tell them a few times he needed to do a poo but refused to go. Anyway - when he came home we must have taken him to the toilet 10 times because he said "Do Poo Mum!" but he'd sit on the potty and not go. Eventually when he was having his bath (and hopped out 3 times to sit on the potty) he started to cry because he really, really, needed to go and we basically had to sit him on the potty and coach him to do his poo. I had to distract him a bit by singing silly songs and then he finally relaxed enough to go. I almost got the giggles at one point though because I felt like some midwife telling a woman in labour to push. So we had success in the end. :smiliedance:

The other thing about Will is that he is scared of beef stroganoff. We had it for dinner tonight and he refused to even try it - crying instead. We had to go and get him something else. It's happened before - with the strog too but we kind of figure we have to keep offering it to him. I don't normally let him do that but given that he rarely refuses to eat something I give him an option with this. It's weird what little ones get into their heads sometimes isn't it?

OK - I am going to go now. Think I might have some relaxing time!

[hayleylea]

Tan well I hope tonight is the night. Well done coaching Will to do a poo too! I cant believe he is scared of strog lol. It is funny the little ideas they get in their head isnt it!! :laughing: Funny little thing! Thats cracked me up.

OK im off to relax.

Night guys...

[Katcha]

Tan, well done coaching Will to do a poo!

Hayley, I see you're still with us! Well, I hope Fi's right and that tonight or tomorrow night's the night.....preferably tonight! :yes:

Well I had a good day off work today. Slept in. :D Did a bit of Uni work & some washing then went off this arvo for my 1st ob appt, which went well. I got him to do another scan on me & got to see my little blobbie & it's little fluttering heartbeat. :D My next proper u/s will be in just over 2 weeks.....can't wait!

[MrsMiggins]

Hayles, I'm sleeping with my phone tonight, OK!! And it's on silent, so feel free to text me as soon as your waters break, or you start having massive contractions 2 mins apart - clearly you won't be having anything else to do at that stage........:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Tan, that's great Will finally pooed on the potty! Hopefully that will be a first step to him getting over his toilet issue? How strange about the stroganoff!! Claire is frightened of puppets *shrugs* Strange creatures, these 2 year olds!!

Renee, I'm so glad your OB appt went well today! I saw your comment on FB that you were having the day off & remembered about your OB appt, so I was thinking about you!

Cath, oh no about the night waking!!! You poor thing!!! It's so hard, isn't it? Owen's been giving me grief lately too, but I think you've got it tougher having the two of them sharing a room. I'd always be stressed out every time one of them made the slightest noise!! IKWYM about every night being totally different. I sit there every night staring down at Owen as I feed him off to sleep & wonder (with rather a lot of trepidation!) what this night will hold!

I've sent the little man off to bed tonight dosed up on Demazin, Nurofen, Baby Balsalm on his chest, Fess nasal spray up both nostrils.... if he doesn't sleep tonight, I honestly don't know what I'll do!! (Eeeeek!! He's in there now coughing his little heart out as I type!) He didn't sleep at all today, can you believe?! And after waking every hour last night!! Uuuuuggggghhhhhh!!! Someone send me the baby whisperer!!!

(PS: Hayley, Tan & Renee - please disregard the last two paragraphs! :o)

You guys will never believe what The Naughtiest Girl In The World did this evening?!! (Unless you happened to see the desperate plea for help I posted in the House & Gardens section!) She drew all over the beige carpet in the toy room in big, black crayon!!! Dave was sooooo angry at her, but I was even more angry with him - he was sitting only a metre away from her when she did it - playing poker on the computer!!!!

Managed to get it all out OK in the end, but Grrrrrrrr!!!!! :mad:

TNGITW is still awake........ She was sent to bed an hour ago after defacing the carpet, so I wonder how much longer she'll be awake for?

G'Night all! (Hayley, I will be eargerly awaiting your text message!)

OH!! I forgot to tell you!! Yesterday I was looking at possible baby gifts for your new bub & it wasn't until I was on my way home that I realised I only ever looked at boys stuff!! The thought had never really occurred to me that you might have a girl!! :o

[Katcha]

Fi, poor little Owen, I hope he's feeling better soon. Oh what a cheeky little girl Claire is drawing all over the carpet! I did see on FB that you'd been cleaning crayon off the carpet & wondered which of your little monkey's was responsible. Oh, & you probably should've put that waring in your last post BEFORE the 2 paragraphs, not after! :laughing: Oh dear, when I read that I was just imagining what it's going to be like with 2 of them, especially since Katelyn has been waking up screaming a lot recently & ending up in our bed. :eek:

Hayley, if you go into labor feel free to SMS me at ANY time. I don't mind if it's at an unearthly hour in the morning.....chances are I'll wake up at some point anyway because of Katelyn screaming or having to go to the loo. :laughing:

OK, I'm off now.....just waiting for All Saints to start.....hopefully I don't fall asleep in it like I did last week.

ETA: Oh & Fi, if Katelyn had drawn all over the carpet with James sitting right near her I would have made HIM clean it up!! :yes:

[MrsMiggins]

Oh, don't worry!! He was on all fours scrubbing away with me!!

Yeahhhhhhh..... I was going to put that warning earlier, but I thought it might only entice you lot to read it!! :laughing: I figured perhaps you guys would all be sick of me waffling on & just glance over my posts & might be lucky enough to miss it!! :D

[hayleylea]

No news!!!! :hair: I honestly thought last night was the night too. I had really bad pains from 9.30-midnight last night - so much that i couldnt sleep and then NOTHING - NADA!!! I feel tight in the stomach today but i really am starting to think this baby wont make an appearance before its due date...

Fi as for boys stuff. I do the same!!!! I really think its a boy to be honest. But i havent brought anything in the odd chance it might be a girl. Umah about Claire and the crayon too!!!

Ill message you guys as soon as something happens so dont worry about that!


OK im off to have some breakkie. I couldnt sleep in this morning GRRRRRRRRR! Dunno why just couldnt sleep so trents in bed (didnt get home till 6) and im lying on the lounge about to get some breakky.

TAlk soon.

[Wivi]

Oh Fi! Dave and Troy belong to the same school of Dad's. I think I told you about the time Will drew on the back of our office chairs with red pencil? Only on the plastic so it came off easily. Well - Troy was sitting in one of them when he did it! And he still didn't notice! (or so he said....) Will's blackboard also has yellow whiteboard marker on it from another Daddy minding hour....Bloody men!

Don't worry about your post either. I just put it down to Owen being sick and goodness knows I have had similar nights and days with Will when he was sick.

Hayley - I can't believe you are still waiting. I think it is an indication of what a relaxed bubba you have in there. Hopefully it'll be that cruisy when it comes out!

Renee - so glad your Ob appt went well. What an extra relief to see the blobbie again too. Two more weeks and you get another peek. Lucky you!

Will was crying in bed at 3:30 this morning. We were having a cracker of a storm and I don't know if the thunder scared him but when I went in he proceeded to tell me he was sick "in his nose" and he needed medicine. He had been coughing quite a bit in his sleep - the remnants of that cold I think and I couldn't be bothered arguing with him so I gave him some nurofen and he lay down and went back to sleep. Only thing was I felt guilty because I didn't really think he needed it and lay in my own bed telling myself that I was slack and that I wouldn't do that again - and hence didn't go back to sleep for ages. Of course I hear Will coughing in his room before he got up this morning and was even more annoyed cause obviously he isn't quite well and I was cranky with myself for nothing. Loopy aren't I? Anyway I just told myself that next time Troy can get up and then I won't have to decide.

OK - gotta go. Will keep you posted on the poo issue too. No poo yet this morning again! Oh the trauma! :laughing:

[cath]

Oh Tan I laughed out oud reading about Troy sitting in the chair while Will drew on it and not even realising -classic! Well done with the poo coaching - it does sound bloody funny. The things we have to do as parents hey? You did very well -I know that can be a big thing to get them to do a poo in the potty. We still haven't really started TT here. Paddy did do a wee in the potty before the bath last night which is about the 4th time but mostly he just sits on it, does nothing, then gets in the bath. I've got to get organised and start doing it during the day sometime soon but at the moment it just seems like too much work and on the odd occasion I ask him if he wants to sit on the potty he says no.

Fi that's nuts that Dave was in the room while Claire drew on the carpet. That could easily happen here too. If Dean is on the computer it is like he has blinkers on and can't sense anything else going on around him. It must be a male thing. As women we can quite easily be on the computer but also know what is going on around us I think. It's a fun game the guessing "what will this baby do tonight game" isn't it? We had a good one last night with Will waking at 11 and feeding like he was starving and then he was calling out at 1:30 but by the time I had been to the toilet he was having breaks of quiet in between the cries so I waited and then it all went quiet:smiliedance: It still woke me up and took me a while to go back to sleep which was a pain but all up he did well last night and then didn't wake up until "tissue man" was calling out "tissue,tissue" at 6:50 this morning.

Oh Hayley how annoying about having pains but nothing happening -that's a bit nasty. How annoying you couldn't sleep in too - isn't that always the way.

Renee great to hear you got to see your little baby and it's hearbeat again - it is a beautiful thing. What's with this night screaming? Paddy is doing it now and then too. I'm guessing it's bad dreams.

Anyway Paddy has just gone with Dean's parent and I'm still going on the ebay project so better get onto it while Will is asleep. Chat soon.

[hayleylea]

I forgot to talk about the TT thing. Cath we are the same with you, we havent really started. Well i tried but Cooper wasnt ready. I figure he will get there eventually...he is funny though he sits on the potty every morning underneath the dinning table (he takes it there every morning :laughing:) and does a poo and gets so excited - but he wont take off his nappy or pjs he sits on the potty does a poo in his nappy and comes and tells me he did a poo on the potty!!! LMAO his a funny boy. I say wanna take your nappy off and do it IN the potty and he says NO mummy lol. Ah well we will keep trying!!!

[Wivi]

Oh Cath! I'd forgotten to mention that Will is "tissue" man too! Especially since he has had a cold. I had a good chuckle at Paddy yelling out for a tissue - that's just what Will does!

Why is it that council inspectors and delivery people all arrive at once and right when I just said to Will "I'll go and get you some lunch"? The poor little guy had to wait while I ran out and talked to the inspector, gave instructions to the delivery people about the garden shed, let the cladding guy inside to use the bathroom, blah, blah. Oh well - he waited quietly - in the middle of it all I had to call Troy as well. Not to mention that Troy keeps calling to ask me to send faxes lately. Right when Will and I are doing something messy like pasting!

Will has been making me smile a lot lately. He's into singing nursery rhymes. When he was eating lunch today I caught him singing "Hey diddle diddle.." It's too cute. Cracks me up.

Ok - I had better go. Cath I hope you are having a nice day, that's great that Will slept well for you!

[MrsMiggins]

MEN!! Bloody hopeles, aren't they!!! I shouldn't complain though, Dave stayed home with Owen this morning while I took Claire to the library. (That shouldn't be a big deal, but it is!!)

It's so cute! There's this little girl who goes to the library & she is a little older than Claire. She has this HUGE crush on Owen!! Her little brother is a couple months younger than Owen, so I think that's where the obsession comes from. Well last week we couldn't go to the library because Claire was sick and apparently this little girl (Lucia) was devastated that Owen wasn't there!! And this week when I showed up with Claire & without Owen, OMG, you should have seen her sad little face!! Her mum was saying that she's been asking several times a day for the last 2 weeks if Owen can come over to play!! Awwwww!!!!!! So we swapped phone numbers & we might go over next week. Lucia will be so happy!! :D

Tan, what a good little boy Will was waiting today for his lunch! Don't you HATE it when everything happens all at once like that? And it's ALWAYS at the most inconvenient time!! How cute about Hey Diddle Diddle! I hope he's feeling better today.

Cath, yes Dave can block anything out when he's watching TV or on the computer - it bugs the bejesus out of me, because he doesn't listen to me when I'm talking to him!! YAY on Will going back to sleep on his own last night!!! I LOVE it when Owen does that!!! (I often go to the toilet before going in to him & many a time have I stood outside his door, holding my breath, straining to listen for any sound, hoping he's gone back to sleep!!!)

Hayles, I just posted on your FB wall, but I've been thinking you should really have a Leap Year bub!! :laughing: I think that'd be very cool!! Come on, it's only 2 days away!!

OH!! Before I forget, I was thinking we should start up a pool to try & guess the sex & weight of Hayley's bub (we can do it for Tan & Renee when the time comes too!) Whaddya think? I was just going to do it in here, but I thought maybe start up a new thread, so that it's easier to spot the guesses, without having to troll through posts.

I'll go do it & post the link back here.

ETA: OK, here's the link! (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=2406696#post2406696)

[hayleylea]

hey fi - saw your post on my face book. Yeah i wasnt too sure about the whole leap year baby but now im thinking it would be good because its not too far away and hey lets face its pretty special lol...well something that not many people can say they are born on.

I even had a guess at my own baby gender, time and weight - hope thats OK. LOL i have no idea but thought it would be funny to guess. I originally had the first of march but think this baby is comfy in here....FINGERS CROSSED im wrong!!!

ETA: im cooking up some curried snags tonight so hopefully that will help get things moving HAHA!

[MrsMiggins]

Of course you can guess!!

Although I'm not too sure about the curried snags tonight!! Can't you save them for tomorrow night??!!

What weight was Cooper when he was born?

[hayleylea]

Cooper was 8pound 1 once.

[MrsMiggins]

Ahhhh.... see, now I mightn't be all that far off!! Claire was 8lb 7oz & Owen was 7lb 6oz!:thumbsup:

[hayleylea]

well i hope this one is smaller lol!!!!!!

The ultrasound did say 8pound12 but they said that with Cooper too around the same time so only time will tell!!! :p

Gotta go got an over tired little man who needs to go to bed but isnt going this early!!! lol

[hayleylea]

yep still going. Feeling really ordinary today though..like spewy sick!!!! Might be the end of this flu though. My nose is starting to dry up though so thats the main thing.

Cooper had a bad dream again and woke up totally shaking again. Its really bad. His lips quiver and his whole body!! it only took 10 minutes to calm him down though and he was back in bed so thats ok. Was at 8oclock too so not asthough he woke us up. He was awake at 6.30 this morning though!

its a miserable day here today. Raining and cold! Trent and I went to big w early this morning to get all the blinds for our house cause they were on special! We got the wooden ones and they should look really good...So im pretty excited about that. Trents on his days off and is out at our house but im totally exhuasted so we decided that Coops and I would just bum around here and hopefully have a day sleep!

Anyway im off. I have so much washing to do so looks like the drier will be getting used cause there is no chance of drying it any other way today.

hope all is well.

[cath]

Hi Hayley -still with us then. It's grey and rainy here today too. Paddy has been busy decorating his "house" (the box from the air conditioner) and Will has just gone back to bed and I feel like going back to bed myself.

Poor Cooper with his bad dream - seems to be happening to all of our little ones at the moment. Well done with getting all the blinds - that's very efficient to have done that already. I love the wooden blinds - your new house is going to look so good. You will have to show us some photos.

Fi that is so cute about the little girl loving Owen -too cute. How is he doing? I hope he is better.

Tan how cute about Will and his singing. Paddy seems to be getting right into that at the moment too. For the last couple of weeks he has been running around singing what I thought was "tissue man" and I just thought he was a nutter. Yesterday I worked out it was "this old man" from the Knick Knack Paddy Whack song. Poor kid -I've been saying "what is this tissue man?" to him for weeks.

I finally finished typing up all the stuff to put on ebay last night (64 items!!) - mostly mine but a few of Deans and I just got an email yesterday from ebay saying the listing fee will be half price for 4 days from tomorrow :smiliedance: Perfect timing!

Anyway better get some stuff done around here. Here is a couple of photos of the boys from this morning:

Paddy (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_5867.jpg)

Will (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_5881.jpg)

[hayleylea]

hey cath - yep still going...think i will be for a few days yet :laughing: ah well....
im not half as organised this time around as i was with Cooper i have a bit to do but would rather just sit and do nothing! lol.

Cooper is still got a cold and omg is he trying me out today!!!! im about to make him lunch and then he is off to bed.

Cute photos by the way cath - how much has Will grown!!!!! Such a little boy now!!!. Gotta go this boy is being naughty

[hayleylea]

well it seems we not only have night terrors but day terrors here. Cooper woke up from his day sleep absolutley petrified!!!! he had only been down for half an hour and was screaming and shaking. I picked him and brought him out in the lounge room and cuddled him and his little eyes kept closing so i put him back to bed. Poor little fella...something is really scaring him in his dreams!!! He is sound asleep again though...so ill see how he wakes.

OK back to the cleaning...

hmm Tan is quiet today. Hope she is ok!

[Wivi]

LOL - not quiet! Just busy!

Poor Cooper and his dreams. He must have a lot going on in his busy head right now.

It's raining here again today and that meant they couldn't lay the slab and it won't be done til Monday. How annoying. But I guess that kind of stuff just happens.

Cath - your 2 little boys both look so cute in their photos! Will looks like such a happy bubba.

Troy has made me cranky today. Will fell asleep on the way home from swimming and I tried to wake him up as I knew he would fight his sleep later. But oh no - Troy tells me to leave him and I said well - put him into bed when we get home and again Troy says no - it's too early. I deliberately went out today when Will was supposed to be napping and sure enough he mucked up with Troy. But I get home after 2 (when we usually make sure he is up by) and he is still sound asleep in bed and again Troy tells me not to wake him up. Now I know full well there'll be trouble with putting him to bed tonight and I have told Troy he has to deal with it because it is all his fault! I refuse to have anything to do with it. Geez men annoy me - I'd so much rather Will have an early sleep than a late one.

Sorry - that's my big gripe for the day. I'm a cranky PG woman I think! :laughing:

Oh - love the story about "this old man" Cath! That's classic! I had no idea for weeks what Will was saying to me (this was about 6/8 months ago) and then realised one day he was saying Thank you! How silly did I feel?

[hayleylea]

Tan - GRRRRR at men. Trents done the same thing to me a few times with Cooper and his sleep. I also dont let Cooper sleep much longer then 2 (although i did today so i will probably be in the same boat as you tonight lol)...Fingers crossed Will is good for you tonight at bed time. im sure he will be.

No good about your slab though -its always the way though isnt it!!

i had a chat to anna and Cath on msn today and sent them both photos of my house. They are older photos cause i dont have any of the newer ones ready but now they know what it looks like. Ill get the rest of them on photoshop soon!

Anyway gotta get dinner ready!! talk soon.

ETA: I got a bargain down the street at target today! A rash vest (swimming tshirt) for Cooper for next year for $2!!!!! it was $18 reduced to 2 dollars - BARGAIN :D)

[hayleylea]

hi guys just letting you know still here, nothing happening. Ill be at our house today so thought i had better check in so you dont think ive left you guys on the outer lol

Have a nice day!

talk soon.

[bingo]

Oh poor Hayley! And I bet that today would be the day too. Ho humm. Well I hope you have an enjoyable day at the new house getting it all ready. Maybe all the activity of today will get things moving along. Are you over that terrible cold yet? Hopefully you are and feeling all energized.
Tan how did Will go last night with his sleep? Did Troy look after him and have a terrible night getting him to sleep?
Cath the boys look so cute. Will is growing up so fast. He's starting to look a little less like Paddy and IMO he's starting to look a little like his mummy.
OMG - sorry have to leave and come back later, just got a delivery at the door and I think :fingerscrossed: its my kitchen aid!

[cath]

Hi again,
Hayley I hope you have a nice day out at your house. I really think your little baby will make an appearance sometime this weekend. Good work with your bargain top - you do so well!

Hi Lou -was it the Kitchen Aid? How exicting!

Tan how did you go with Will last night - I hope he got to bed eventually.

I have a killer headache this morning and am hoping the Panadeine I just took will kick in soon. We are off to story time at the library in an hour. Paddy loved it last week (especially the activity at the end where they coloured in giraffes and cut them out and stuck them together -he is so going to love kinder next year).

Here's a couple more photos from this morning (am back into photo taking mood -didn't take any for a couple of weeks):

The boys (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_5907.jpg)

The boys laughing (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_5895.jpg)


Have a good day everyone and I will chat again soon.

[bingo]

:crying:its white - not red! I ordered red :hair:. Tony is going to ring up and find out what the G-O is. How frustrating.

Not much going on here this week. The weather has finally turned cold and its looking like rain which would be lovely. We are supposed to be heading to Melbourne tonight but I just can't be bothered. I'm feeling very lazy. Maddi has been very funny and entertaining. Has anyone seen the movie Leopold Dynamite? Well she's taken to doing dance moves just like him and I just sit there and watch her totally entertained. She just loves to dance and sing. Think I might have to look into getting all that energy channelled into something productive. The TT has been going unreal, can't complain about it one little bit. She hasn't had any accidents and she can now hold on for a decent amount of time so that if we're out and no toilet is around its not such a stress. What is frustrating is her night sleeping. She's been going to bed around 9pm, waking at 3am asking for a milk, then coming to bed with us and waking at 7am. I just wish she would stop with the 3am wake ups.
Alrighty better go and get Maddi dressed, She's DEMANDING my attention. Apparently there is a spider!

[bingo]

Cath, I've changed my mind! I think that Paddy looks like you more so than Will. Will looks about the same size and Paddy. They are so so cute. Hope your headache goes away. Have a lovely cup of tea before you go. :hugs:

[cath]

Oh no Lou!! How bloody annoying -the red one is definitely much cooler than the white one. What a right pain.

Do you mean Napolean Dynamite? I absolutely love that movie!! Dean was given it on DVD and we have watched it so many times - an absolute classic. How cool that Maddi is dancing like him - I can just picture it. Well done with the TT. You can do without being woken at 3am can't you? I'm up at 3am alot these days too -not fun. It's a grey old day here in Melbourne too -makes it hard to get motivated doesn't it?

It's hard to say which boy looks more like me. As Paddy has grown up he does look more like me and Will looks alot like me as a baby but not so much now. It is hilarious in photos how they look they same size. Will's head is huge (so is his body really) but he is way shorter than Paddy (but highly likely to end up the same size at 2 as he was in the 95th percentile or something for height when he was last measured). I love standing Will up and then Paddy comes and stands next to him -it looks hilarious - funny little stumpy baby.

Anyway Paddy is looking for attention. Better go.

[Moorish]

RIGHT-O!!
I'm going to attempt to catch up on 6 pages of chat :ecomcity:!!!
Hopefully I can do it in 24-48 hours!!
I MISS YOU GUYS! :crying:

[bingo]

:party:Come and join the party Anna! :smiliedance::sunshine:

[cath]

:yelclap: Anna - just jump back in - it might be a bit much to read through hall of our chatter -you know how we love to talk!

[Moorish]

What's this about a kitchen aid Lou?!
And why have they sent you a white one?!
Get onto them about sending you the funky red one so we can be 'red kitchen aid' buddies! (Ok, so I just made that up but it can be our special club! :laughing:)

Cath I nearly wet myself looking at those photos of your boys! I'm just LOVING that one where they're both cacking themselves! Oh it needs to be framed!

[bingo]

Hey there Anna, well I managed to save up heaps of rewards points on my credit card and swapped them for a red kitchen aid. But it came today and when I opened the box it was WHITE. Anyways, its all been sorted and its on its merry way back to Melbourne so that I can be sent a RED one. I can't wait! I was so so excited when the delivery man came this morning, I was imagining Maddi and I cooking up some cakes this arvo in the racing red mixer. I mean white it lovely but my house is all white and it would just get lost in the background.
Maddi is having a nap :smiliedance:. Yesterday she didn't have a day sleep and I just gave up in the end. She was so very naughty in the afternoon and she still didn't go to sleep until 9pm. :no:

So whats news with you Anna? How are the girls going at school, how is Immy coping with the girls going off to school, what is Alex up to, is he growing like a weed, how are you feeling, did you get your car window paid for - so many questions. Miss you!

[MrsMiggins]

I just caught up on all your posts, but have to be quick now as Owen is having the world's biggest tanty on the floor beside me & I am O-V-E-R it!!!!!! :hair:

So apologies for no personals (will try to get back on tonight) but Hayles, looks like I'm outta the running in the time/date category!! D'oh!

Just have to jump on & have a vent. A DH & child vent!!

Firstly, Owen cut his 3rd molar today/last night sometime (not the one I was expecting either) so he is in FINE form!! He woke at 1am & did not go back to sleep til 4.30!!! Yes, you read that correctly - 4.30!!!!! I was not a happy camper, I can assure you!! OK, so he did sleep in til 9am this morning, but really - he needs far more sleep than that.

He has NOT stopped screaming & throwing tantrums all day. He is so tired (wonder why!!) but despite copious quantities of bonjela & nurofen, refuses to sleep! I am going mad!!

Dave spent all Wed night throwing up (not sure if that's what the kids both had, or what - he thinks it's food poisoning from a steak sandwich he had on Wed) so fair enough, he wasn't in much of a mood to be helping me with the kids/housework etc on Thurs. BUT by Thurs night he was fine & still did nothing. Then after last night's little "episode" with Owen, he had the bloody hide to stay in bed this morning until 10am!!! Well, to be fair, he did wake up when Claire woke up at 7 & went & got her milk for her. She wanted to get up & watch TV, so he went into the lounge room with her & gave her some breakfast (nothing flash, but at least he gave her something, I suppose) and then proceeded to fall asleep on the couch. When I got up at 8 to go have a shower, he was still asleep on the couch. When I got out of the shower, he is back in bed & Claire is still in her high chair in the lounge room watching TV!!! When I went to get her out, I put my hand on her backside and she was wet through - he hadn't even changed her nappy!!!! GRRRRRRRR!!!!!! :mad: then when Owen woke up & I was busy getting the kids stuff ready to go out today & he didn't even move, so I had to get Owen up as well. I was soooooooo angry!!!!!!

Lucky for him by the time I got home today, he'd tidied up all the kids toys, cleaned the kitchen, done the dishes, vacuumed & mopped the floors. Saved me from changing the locks!!!!

So I had to take the kids for their first dentist visit today (just a check-up - there's this great new dentist clinic that does check-ups for under 5's free! Thought it'd be a good idea to take them) but it's a 45min drive away. The only appt I could get was 12.30 (bad timing for sleeps!) so they both slept on the way up. Then on the way home I went & picked up the lots I won on eBay - the 3 Curious George cars & a singing Dorothy doll. SO happy with them!! They're awesome!!!

I tried to get Owen down for a sleep when we got home, but he was having none of it - little devil!!! I am going to give them both an early dinner & send them off to bed early before someone (ie: me) has to be admitted to the loony bin!!

Hopefully they will both go to sleep without any worries & sleep soundly all night (:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:)

With any luck you'll hear from me again later this evening!

[hayleylea]

Hi guys....

Well i thought i would have went before now too...But this baby is quite happy in there lol. I just had a few pains then - havent had them the last 2 days but i really think a couple more days yet....i keep trying to tell myself that in hope that im actually wrong lol :D

sorry for lack of personals but im tired and this boy hasnt slept all day (my fault i didnt put him down) so i need to get him bathed and ready for bed.

I do have to comment on the photos though Cath - HOW CUTE ARE YOUR BOYS!!! your right though Will looks the same size if not bigger then Will!! lol. So cute!L

Lou - glad to hear you got the kitchen aid stuff sorted out!

[Wivi]

Evening all,

After my big rant yesterday apparently Will went to bed last night without a fuss! So I looked a bit silly I guess. Oh well - I guess there are some things you can't pick. I must say that when I tucked Will into bed a few minutes ago he was looking decidedly cheeky so it will be interesting to see what he does.

Cath - your boys are the happiest looking boys I think I have ever seen. Just so gorgeous - and yes Will looks ENORMOUS! I think the next photo you post will have to be a full body shot - I need to see those stumpy legs!

Oh Fi - you obviously had your bad day with Dave yesterday too. They have no idea at times. Oh and I have so much sympathy for you in the sleep department. It sounds as though it has been a very trying day. Hopefully Owen will get all those teeth out of the way very quickly and then you will get a lot more peace. Will's teeth dragged out for so long and then he seemed to catch up all at once but I remember feeling a tad envious of Hayley because Cooper had his all out of the way! Speaking of teeth - no sign of those 2 year old molars either...

Anna - lovely you popped in! Looking forward to seeing more from you!

Lou - I would have been so disappointed when your kitchen aid arrived and it was the wrong colour! How very annoying! TT has been good here again this week (aside from the poo issue) too. Does Maddi still wear a nappy for her day nap? She sounds very cute with her dancing too.

It has turned rather chilly here too. We have been in trackies and jumpers which is just unheard of in Sydney at this time of year. Less than 20 degrees most of the day and pretty chilly at night too. So bizarre! I put an extra blanket on Will last night when I went to bed around midnight because he was all curled up in a little ball snuggled right down in his bed.

Thanks to the Sydney weather and our renos we are still having washing dramas. I had to go to a friend's place last night to put our towels in the dryer and it took hours! Thankfully they are real night owls and didn't care at all how long it took. I might have to come up with another plan though - their dryer took so long I wondered if it was worth it.

Hayley - I am disappointed there isn't more happening with you. I voted for 1 March and it's not looking likely is it? Can you go and drink some castor oil or something? :laughing: Just kidding. You must be hanging out though - what's happening about the big move? I noticed you haven't moved yet, have you decided to wait til after bub is born?

OK - I had better go. Have had a cracker of a headache all day, I am seriously hoping an early night gets rid of it.

[cath]

Rest up tonight Hayley - I reckon tomorrow is going to be labour day for you.

Tan I hope you get rid of your headache. Sounds like an early night is in order for you. Poor thing with the hassle of doing washing -the last thing you need.

Fi you poor thing. You must be so tired! How did they go at the dentist -i am dying to hear if the dentist actually got to do anything constructive. I'm sure Paddy would be hopeless. We still can't get his teeth brushed properly -he is a nightmare.

Anna how did you go catching up? Seriously don't stress about it too much - just jump on in and tell us what has been happening with you.

They are pretty funny photos of my funny boys aren't they? I will try and get a full length one Tan -good idea - then you can see that Will is still a baby (a very big baby but still a baby). I just had to pull out the size 1 flannel PJ's for him tonight (crazy he's not even 8 months yet!) -it's going to be 9 degrees overnight tonight! We're joining you in the cold weather down here Tan.

Anyway I'm off to find some dinner. Chat soon.

[Moorish]

Hey girls, I will just jump back in and catch up when I can over the next few days or so.

So did we all place bets on poor old Hayles popping then?? :laughing:
Ok I know I'm a little late but I'll place money on Wednesday 5th March somewhere after 4.30pm (sorry Hayles!!! :hugs:)

Heading off to bed soon - I'm absolutely buggered. I can totally understand how kinder kids are so exhausted at the end of a week, but spare a thought for the poor mummy (uh - ME!) who has to get 4 kiddies up, fed, dressed and out the door by 8:30am! :dizzy:

Now that things are settling into a routine (few issues to iron out :rolleyes:) I'll be gracing our group more fequently. Thanks girls for still liking me even though I've been so absent lately! I've just been blown away these last few months at how busy it was with the kids during the holidays and getting them to school.

I'm going to start putting some new pics on photobucket so I'll get them up soon (I have TONNES that I've been promising!) For now I'm going to head off, I'm falling asleep at the keyboard!

Night girls!
Talk soon!
xoxo

[hayleylea]

NOpe nothing looking like happening. A little frustrating but you know you cant rush these things - it will happen when its ready to happen. Im guessing Anna might be on the date track though - it definatley doesnt feel like its going to happen soon. Weird really cause i thought for sure it was giong to happen last week with all the pains etc!!

As for moving. The house is ready to move in and i think ive mentioned all our furniture is out there except Coopers room - and our matress. Everything else is out there except our cooking pots aswell. We were going to move out there to get Cooper settled but I got cold feet after my huge pains i was getting the last 2 weeks and thought the baby was closer then it obviously is so decided to stay put till the baby is born. I dont really know whats going to happen. I think we will go straight out there after i go home from hospital. Im pretty casual about it im sure everything will be fine. Cooper loves it out there and its familar to him. I j ust htink its better me being here with Trent on night shift because atleast my MIL is only a walk away - Trent would be 25 minutes away. And this way too if i go in the middle of the night we dont have to disturb cooper. So I "think" its the right thing to do!!! As for the castor Oil Tan - the thought did pop into my mind but i REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY couldnt bring myself to do it lol.

Cath - the photos of your boys are so funny but incrediabley gorgoeous!!

Cooper is heading to my sisters to play for the day today YAY!!! :smiliedance: She is picking him up around 9.30 and he will be ther efor the day. They were going to take him to the local show but we all deided it was too much money and not much there...especially for kids Coopers age. It would have cost me a fortune because her kids would have wanted show bags etc and i would have had to fork out for Cooper. So yeah he is just going for a play day. Trents at work till 11 and then we are heading out to our house and im going to do the final prep of the babies room so its all ready to bubs into. We put up the blinds in our lounge room yesterday and they look really good!!

anyway i just had breakfast and WOW the pains are back!! So either bubs is either:
1. loving the food
2. trying to get out
3 hated the food and is telling me to leave it alone for a few more days LMAO!

[cath]

Looks like I got the date and time wrong in my guess as to when your baby is going to make an appearance Hayely. You never know though - what's happening with those pains? Maybe the date will be right after all. That's so good that Cooper has some cousins close to his age to play with - it is such a help for you. I think that is a great plan to stay put until the baby appears - makes perfect sense. Look after yourself and keep resting up while you can.

Anna I can't even imagine trying to get 4 kids fed and dressed and out the door by 8:30. What time do you have to start getting ready? I swear it takes at least an hour to get my 2 dressed and fed and that's only 2 of them. Plus the fact that you probably want to get showered and dressed and manage some breakfast yourself. What a job! I totally hate the getting ready in the morning thing. Paddy is always instantly at me for "brekky" and sitting at the table saying "brekky" over and over until it appears. It's a bit of work to get breakfast organised in addition to changing a normally very wet baby and trying to wake up myself and he seems to just think it appears by magic.

Anyway I'd better go and get some stuff done while Paddy is at swimming. Have a good day everyone.

[hayleylea]

pains are just a dull period pain so i dont think its happening. My sisters bday is on the 5th so she is hoping for that date lol id rather today though! :laughing:

[Wivi]

Hi everyone,

So today is not the day for Hayles. Bummer - hope it happens soon! Have a nice day Hayles - hope it is nice and quiet for you.

Yes - I think 8:30am would be a challenge with 4 kids! Especially when Anna's family does not sound like early birds! My Brother has 4 kids and 8:30 is no problem for him but then his kids are bounding around the house at 6am every day! Plenty of time!

Not much going on here today - the builder is here finishing off the strainers for the deck but other than that - not much at all. Tomorrow we are heading up the coast for Troy's sister's engagement party so that is busy enough for me at the moment! Alright - gotta go, hang more washing - seeing as it is sunny today! :smiliedance:

[MrsMiggins]

Hi all! Kids slept much better last night, so I am normal again (have packed away cranky mummy for another day! :D) And they are asleep now too -THANK GOD!!! I guess I really should be putting a load of washing on & unpacking the dishwahser, but............ oh well! :o

Sorry I couldn't get on last night - Dave was using the computer & I was too tired to wait up for him to finish.

Cath, I just took a look at those pics & your boys are just gorgeous!!! Will does look like a big boy there! Can I ask you where you got those cute orange overalls for Will? I love Paddy's shirt too - so cute!!

Hi Anna!!! I know you must be sooooo busy! I can't even bring myself to think about getting my two off to school every morning when the time comes!! lol

Hey Hayley, do we get a 2nd guess when our date has passed??!! :laughing: I should be mean & say the 12th! :devil6: Your bub & Owen could share a birthday then!

I was thinking of you this morning - I scored some bargains down at the recycle market!!

I went down to get some trellis or lattice so I can plant some snow peas against it. They didn't have the size I wanted, so I missed out on that, but I did get some other stuff..... of course!!

I got:

4 x white plastic outdoor kid's chairs - all in excellent condition, just need a clean
A Fairy Kingdom bicycle with training wheels - in fine condition, colour just a bit faded
A large blackboard/whiteboard easel in fine condition - just has pen scribbled all over the frame
A working electronic cash register - with all the parts
A Bob the Builder ball
A wooden car set - perfect condition, just has a couple of pieces missing - no big deal
A massive bag of Mega Blocks - excellent condition
An outdoor water/sand play table - good condition, no cracks or anything

Total spent = $11!!! BARGAIN!!!!

They had heaps of those ride-on plastic cars for between $3-$5 each, but we already have 2 & I think if I'd have come home with another one, Dave would've cracked it!!

In fact, I think there will be a large amount of eye-rolling as it is!! :rolleyes: :laughing:

I'm going to get some lunch happening before Jeckyl & Hyde wake up!

[hayleylea]

GREAT BARGAINS Fi!!!!

And yep i was going to suggest you all have a second guess too!!! As for the 12th - yes it is far away but its also my dads birthday so that would be kinda special!!!

Anyway dinner time better go!

[MrsMiggins]

That would be good, Hayles! My mum's 60th was on the 14th March last year, so I thought that would've been nice, but oh well!

OK, I shall go and put my new guess in! :D

BTW Cath - I totally forgot to answer your question before! Sorry!!

The kids went well at the dentist. I was worried neither of them would have a bar of it, so I was getting Claire to practice opening her mouth up & saying "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.............." every night in the bath. I was also really geeing her up about it in the weeks leading up - "We're going to the dentist in 3 weeks... 2 weeks.... 2 sleeps...." etc, so she was really looking forward to it.

When we went in, the dentist (a woman about my age) was really lovely to them & gave them books to read & chatted with them for a while, then she led them into the surgery. They have an LCD tv playing kids movies above the chair (and a really cool chair!!) but Claire was a bit overwhelmed & didn't want to go in the chair. She was happy though to stand in front of the dentist with her mouth open, while the dentist looked in her mouth with a special tiny "fairy" mirror. I was really pleased she let her look! She said she had really good teeth & no problems at all. Then she wanted to put a calcium treatment on her teeth just as a precautionary thing, but Claire balked a bit at that. We managed to get a bit on in the end & she got her special treat (a pink, sparkly bracelet) so she was happy! Owen loved having a ride in the chair, but wasn't letting her get a look in his mouth! She said what she could see looked fine. It only took about 10 mins from the time we walked in the door to the time we left, so I'm glad I wasn't paying for it, but I do think it was good for a free service. I would recommend them.

[cath]

Oh Fi I just love those funny little overalls Will was in. They are made out of chenille(spelling?) -the old bedspread stuff -and were given to Paddy as a present when he was born and I don't know where our friend got them from but they are the coolest! There is a hand written tag inside them with washing instructions so they are hand made by someone. I had big plans to make cool clothes like that for my kids but I have never quite found the time. I promise this is the last of the photos for a while but here is a full photo of them on Will and Paddy when he was little:

Will in the cool overalls (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_5752.jpg)

Paddy in the cool overalls (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_1585.jpg)

I got Paddy's cool headphone top at Best and Less -I just loved it and he seems to like it -always pats it and says "headphones". Well done Claire at the dentist!! That is excellent she would even stand there with her mouth open -I'm impressed. You did well with your coaching. I relaly better put some work in with Paddy and his teeth brushing I think. Tomorrow we are getting those teeth brushed whatever it takes - which is probably Dean holding him down while I brush and lots of tears or something. That is an amazing amount of stuff for $11 -well done!

Hayely you definitely have 2 special dates to aim for so I hope you get one of those!

Tan good to hear you finally have some sun and things are happening with the renovations.

Anyway I'm off to find another beer. Chat soon

[hayleylea]

Yeah 2 dates to aim for but tonight would be good :D I meant to ask about the headphones shirt too - i loved it!!!

Oh I meant to tell you guys about my bargains today too!! I went to big W to get Cooper a special present to take to the hospital to give to him from "bubba" Anyway he is right into dinosaurs at the moment so i got him this really cool dinosaur that roars and walks - it wasnt on special but ive been eyeing it off for ages and i just know he will think bubba is the best for getting him that lol. But anyway our big w has the biggest clearance going. I got a cranium super fort (you can search on net if you dont know what im talking about) You can put it all together all different ways and make tonnes of different cubbies and stuff (Cooper LOVES making cubby houses) Anyway it was $80 down to $20 so i grabbed it to put away for christmas. I also got him a mini robosauraus - was $20 down to $5. I got this as a thing to put away if im having a bad day with the baby and need to distract him - for $5 i couldnt go wrong!!!
Got my Neice a barbie doll for christmas that was $45 down to $15 - and my sister who was in there before me got Cooper a remote controle tow truck car (For little kids - its awesome) $30 down to $9.

They had so much stuff marked down. They also had this wiggles desk, chair combo thing....its a seat with a desk attached to either draw or eat at and it was 50 down to 20. I left that though..but im thinking it was a really great idea!! Im just hopless lol.
But the super fort thing was just too good to leave there!

having a few stronger period pains today but once again (i get sick of saying it lol) i dont think much is coming of it.

Anyway Cooper is just getting out the shower (way behind schuedule today lol) he had a late sleep at my sisters
talk soon!

[MrsMiggins]

Quick post - gotta run, but check it out!!! :D :D :D :D

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=2418305#post2418305

[MrsMiggins]

Sorry for the quick post! Dave was home for 15 mins between shifts & I had to go have a shower & get the kids down for a sleep!

I've gotten a few messages from Hayles, but she asked me to let you all know as she's been having problems with her phone.

She woke up at 6.30am with pains, at hospital at 8am and 6cms dialated :eek: Born 1 hour later - no pain relief as there wasn't time! What a woman, hey!!! And such a big bubba!!! She only had a small tear apparently. I guess some women are born to be birthing godesses!!

[cath]

No way -I wasn't expecting that!!


Congratulations Hayley,Trent and Cooper and welcome to the world Shelley!! Well done Hayley -sound pretty full on. I hope all is going well.

[MrsMiggins]

Me neither!! :laughing: I just thought I'd better go check my phone in case Dave had tried to call me & there was a message from Hayley!!!

I'm so excited!! Can't wait to see some pics!!! :smiliedance::smiliedance:

[Katcha]

Yay, congrats Hayley! I completely missed that SMS from Hayley, then just thought I better go check my phone for messages.....then saw Hayley's message & raced onto here! :D Can't wait to see some pics.....wow Cooper's a big brother now! :smiliedance:

[bingo]

:yelclap: thats so exciting. Now thats a big baby and a fast delivery. The envy of many mums! Can't wait to hear all about it and see some photo's of Shelley. I wonder what Cooper thinks of his little baby sister?

[Wivi]

Ok - sorry for not posting on here yesterday but it was a busy one for us.

How exciting for Hayley! (Personally, how annoying for me, I was out by one day and I guessed a girl too!:laughing:) Wow - I'm just trying to imagine her in a hospital bed with a tiny baby next to her! Just incredible - Cooper is going to seem so huge now!

Well, I have to say that Will has been a right monkey the past two nights. He goes to bed just fine but wakes up crying at about 1:30 and then again at about 3am. I put it down initially to him having dreams as he was a bit excited about going to a party yesterday but what was annoying me more was that he asks for medicine when I go in and says he is sick! (Troy usually goes in once and I go in the next time). Now I don't think he is sick (I could be wrong, that certainly has happened before) - but the first night I gave him the benefit of the doubt and he had his medicine and rolled over and went back to sleep. Last night I refused to give him any and gave him a cuddle and told him to go back to sleep. I also was a big mean mummy and refused to go back in to him after that. He whinged and called out maybe every 10 to 15 minutes after that until just before 4am when he must have got the hint and gone back to sleep. He can get himself under his own covers now so I don't have to worry about that anymore. I did go at one point and talk to him through the door and tell him to go back to sleep, and he was not too pleased about that. I guess we'll just see what happens tonight after a nice quietish day at home. Maybe he is waking up with a sore throat or something - he snores a lot, but he had been sleeping so well. I think it's just some silly phase he is going through. It makes me very tired though!

The concreters are here laying our slab. We were all still asleep when they got here this morning which was a bit embarrassing! LOL at least it is happening.

Fi - you got some great bargains at the recycle shop! That's great the trip to the dentist went well. I don't know what Will would do if I took him. He is very good at opening his mouth to say "aaggh" but I don't know about getting his teeth checked. How excellent that it is free for you. I am so impressed!

Oh wow - Hayley has her baby! Sorry - am obviously still very fixated on that.....:)

[cath]

Hello everyone,
I wonder how Hayley is going and if it has all sunk in yet. I hope she is enjoying having a little newborn again -they are the most beautiful little things.

Tan that does sound pretty tiring having Will calling out several times a night - I have one of those Will's too! Does he have a drink of water he can access at night? I don't know if that would help if he has a sore throat at all but Paddy takes a water to bed (in one of those Nuby non-spill cups) and we hear him having a drink during the night (he plonks it back onto the drawers next to his bed really loudly). Maybe if Will could have a drink he might not call out (I'm pulling at straws here so it might not help at all). They do get fixated on certain things at times so either Will really does need the medicine or he might just be fixated on it for now (like Paddy is with his tissues). I hope he sleeps better for you soon. How exciting about the slab being layed.

We've been out at a friend's for morning tea and now having a lazy afternoon at home (it's hot out there today). Paddy's possesiveness extended to possessiveness on behalf of his brother this morning. He has hit that two year old stage where he thinks noone else can touch his stuff (including Will which is causing lots of sharing discussions and the occasional time out to be had here -still not working). Will was given some toys to play with this morning by my friend (which were her son's toys) and at one stage another little boy came and played with one of them. All of a sudden Paddy goes racing over saying "Will,Will" and took it away from this poor little boy and shoved it back at Will who just sat there looking bemused. Crazy kid! I had to explain they were actaully Nick's toys and that he was being very good and sharing them with Will and all the other children. Two year old's are funny little creatures.

Anyway I'm off to get some stuff done. Hope everyone is well (especially Hayely and little Shelley). Chat soon.

[Wivi]

Hi Cath - I get the feeling there might just be you and me on here a bit the next few days!

I shouldn't have whinged about Will this morning - it's not that bad and all kids wake up sometimes. I don't think he wants a drink - I offered it on Saturday night and he said no. He's pretty good at asking for a drink if that's what he needs. I don't know that I could leave it on the drawers near his bed as his room is really dark! I think - as you said he is just "fixated" on medicine for some reason at the moment. It's just that I don't think that's a very healthy thing to be fixated on! Hopefully he'll get over it in a few days. He is however a bit blocked up at the moment - I am sure it is some sinus thing so it is a bit of a toss up as to whether I should give him some medicine in the first place!

LOL at Paddy and his possessiveness. Very cute that Will is now included. I hope that my Will can feel like that about his new sibling too.

Right now I am trying (probably in vain) to get Will to play by himself. He has this thing that when it is just me and him home that I should play or do things with him all the time. He'll play by himself when he is at home when Troy - I think it is because Troy is very good at ignoring him. So I am aiming at 30 minutes right now. I think I have to do something or he's going to be a pain when the baby comes home.

Well the slabs are laid and they look enormous. Honestly it looks like we are building a whole office block - not just a garage/office. But it's a nice and sunny day today - so it has been a good day for laying concrete.

I should go - the half hour isn't quite used up yet and Will is being pesty. I think I just need a bit more sleep - he probably does too I guess.

[Wivi]

Ho-Hum. Just me in here today!

Had a text from Hayley this morning saying she and Shelley were going home from hospital today. All is going well apparently. Hayley is going home to the new house though and won't have the net for a few days yet so we won't be seeing any cute photos for a little bit longer.

Will didn't call out at all last night so maybe it was all related to being a bit excited about the family party on the weekend. I'm not really worried - I got a good sleep last night!

OK - will post more later. Hope you are all having a lovely day.

[Moorish]

OMG!!!
That's what I get for not frequenting the Oct group!
Hayles had the baby!!!
WAIT! I didn't get a text!!! :(

Just reading the thread now . . .

[cath]

Hello there,
Anna I just love the photo of your school girls - so grown up! I don't think Hayley was able to text everyone (I didn't get one either). How exciting she is going home today -that's quick!

Tan good to hear you had a good sleep last night. I was in bed at 9pm last night so got a couple of hours sleep in before will was calling out at 12:30 which was nice. I was stuffed last night. Might have to try and do that once a week I think to catch up on a few hours that I am now regularly missing out on.

Anyway I have an exciting afternoon going to see the dentist for the first time in 3 years which will be fun. My mum will be here soon to look after the boys.

Hope everyone is well.

[Moorish]

Well looking back on the last few days worth of posts - seems like Hayles really wasn't far away on the 1st of March! All those pains were doing good things!

Tan - no my kids are by FAR not overly early risers. This morning I had to drag both Immy and Alex out of bed and head up to the school with them both in their jammies! Granted both are getting over colds so the extra sleep was much needed.
Glad to hear that your reno's are coming along and LOL at still being asleep when the concreters turned up! Did you have a good time at the engagement party?

Fi - WOW woman! What a bargain with those items! I really wish we had something like that here. Great that you're back on here a lot more now - did you finally get broadband or something?? How wonderful that Claire was such an angel at the dentist! I'm sure Immy wouldn't have had a bar of it and would have screamed blue bl00dy murder! I like the idea of a special fairy mirror and giving them a sparkly bracelet at the end - how fantastic!

Cath - it must be the weather for overalls because Alex is wearing some today too! It's chilly here so he's also wearing one of those long sleeve undersuits and he looks so grown up today :(. I can't believe how much Will has changed already! I really thought he was going to be a dead ringer for Paddy, they still do look very similar but in some of the photos I see a difference around the eyes. However in saying that, I only just read your post and figured out that the two pics of the boys in overalls were Will & Paddy - I though they were both Will! LMAO!

Renee - how's your pregnancy going hun? Have you been keeping well? How's Katelyn going? Sorry I've missed so much lately!

Lou - what happened with your kitchen aid? Did you send it back? Are you getting the red one? I told DH and he said - WOW that's a lot of credit card point! :D



Ok I have more to talk about and Tan, I've got more to post to you too but I'd better get ready for the school pick up.
Be back later.
xoxo

[Moorish]

Ok back again (and forever the thread killer arn't I? :rolleyes: :D).

Tan - just wanted to let you (and everyone else!) know what's been going on with Immy and the whole dummy situation.
Well lately we've taken a real turn for the worse with her and she's gone all SUPER clingy to her Poppy and her dummy. She walks around the house with it, wants to take it to the car and wants it all day long. She wakes in the middle of the night SCREAMING out if she can't find it and we have to go find it or find one of her spares.
The other day I gave in and bought her 2 brand new ones (same brand) as I was sick to death of the 3 flat-as-a-tack old ones as she just chews them. So we have about 5 of them floating around the place (although I could only see 2 tonight) and at the moment there's no way on this earth that we'll be separating her from it.

Immy's changed HEAPS lately, and not necessarily all for the best. She's grown up like you wouldn't believe, talking really well, playing well with the girls etc. BUT - she's a Jekyll & Hyde case and no sooner can she be as sweet as pie and an absolute treasure, she can turn and be the most stubborn little cow you ever came across! She's fiercely independent, incredibly strong willed, makes up her own mind and sticks to her guns and has started throwing the worst tantrums I've come across (in comparison to my other two).

Toilet training is coming along rather slowly. I decided long ago not to push the issue (it never worked for the other two so I wasn't going to waste my time or stress her out). We encourage her to go to the toilet every time we change her nappy - she really loves her "duckies" seat and is happy to toddle off and sit on it maybe once a day or so. She never does anything but still goes through the 'wiping' motions which is good enough for me. Occassionally she'll come yelling saying 'toilet mummy toilet!' and we put her on but nothing ever happens. Doesn't matter, we'll get there, I'm not in any hurry.

As for the bedtime routine, Immy gets out of bed as soon as we've left the room and goes next door to Chelsea & Nicola's room, or into the hallway or sometimes even Alex's room, turns the light on and wakes him up to play! It's a nightmare those nights as she screams and won't be put back to bed then we have Alex to settle back down too which is so hard an hour after he's been put to bed.

I'm SOOOO hoping it's just the age and that she'll grow out of it - I'm completely screwed if she doesn't.


You know, the thing that gets me so worried though is, even through all of this garbage, I still can't rule out having any more children. What on earth is wrong with me? I fear that one day Shane will just look at me wrong and I'll be pregnant - I'm so hormonal, clucky and jealous of all the preggy Tassie girls at the moment and SO wish that I could have another! It's just absolutely crazy!

We're quite frustrated by her behaviour at times however we also cherish her just as much. She is still very much a delight and a very smart little girl (oh even if I do say so myself! LOL!) I love the quiet times we share when the older two are at school but I think she misses them heaps which is sweet.

Anyway, I've had my little rant. Thanks for letting me get that out!
Still have heaps more to catch up on (and catch you up on) and photos to sort through (Lou I WILL get you a photo of Immy for the collage!) but time is tight and I can usually only get small snippets of time during the day.

Better get myself ready for bed as I had an ultra late one last night.
Talk soon lovelies!
xoxo

[Wivi]

Oh Anna - so lovely to hear from you. It sounds as though Immy is really pushing your buttons at the moment! Still it is good to know that they all have their difficult times. What a nightmare about Immy getting up and going off to wake Alex! What a monkey - I would be completely at the end of my tether I think.

As for the dummy thing, maybe it is because Immy is missing Nicola now that she is at school too (?). I don't know - I've just noticed that Will seems to need more reassurance and cuddles at the moment while there are lots of changes going on (with renovations etc) and although he doesn't appear upset about any of the changes, I have just noticed he wants more cuddles. As for Will and his dummy, I think for the moment I have just accepted that he is going to have it for a few more months. I am disappointed in myself I guess, I actually don't like the look of dummies and never imagined I would have a toddler with one. The dummy is a funny thing with Will - like Immy he has been more attached to his teddy and Shrek lately but the dummy is easily ditched as soon as he hops out of bed. I think it is more of a routine/ritual rather than a comfort thing. I am just a big chicken - I can't bear the thought of his bedtime routine going skewy so I am too afraid to try. Troy would do it in a flash - I just have to say when.

As for being naughty - Will has his moments too. The strangest thing is that lately he has decided to test me about coming in/out of the naughty spot when I put him there. He doesn't do it to Troy, just me. I've no idea why - it's not like I have ever let him come out. So sometimes I have to put him back 5 or 6 times.

The TT is going pretty well - he still has some strange fear about poo but he did do another poo on the potty last night so there's progress!

OK - I should go - lovely to hear from you Anna! I hope you find time to hop on here a bit more again soon.

[Katcha]

Hi all, just a quick one from me cos I'm at work now....Anna, great to hear from you! Chelsea & Nicola look so grown up now! As for Immy & her tantrums......tell me about it! Katelyn is the same...MOST of the time she's lovely & sweet......but then come the tantrums! This morning it was just over me doing her hair....so she's gone off to day care today with her hair semi-combed cos I just couldn't be bothered. Oh, she's started screaming during the night again the last few nights so of course she's ended up in our bed, which has left myself & James suffereing sleep deprivation as she keeps us awake all night tossing & turning. Pregnancy's going OK. No more m/s, just a bit queasy at times & getting full really quickly. Just can't wait till my 12 weeks scan which is next Saturday so I can get a peek at bub again and make sure everything's still OK.
OK, that's all I got time for now....back to work for me!

[hayleylea]

Hey guys IM BA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-C-K!!!!

I havent had time to read completley through all the posts but did a quick scan.

Anna - i cant believe you didnt get my text!!!! :no: Well i can because i had major phone troubles in there...my best friend didnt even get my text! Stupid service and my stupid phone choose the wrong time not to work properley!!!!! So Please dont think i forgot you because i didnt!!!

Thanks for all the congrats - We are doing really well - i forgot how nice the newborn stage is! Breast feeding isnt going too bad. Have a sore nipples but they are getting better. She was using me as a dummy in the early stages cause she was hungry (big girls are hungry mummy lol).

Heres the run down of my birth story. I hope it makes sense i wrote it out in word and just copy and pasted it.


Well as promised here is my birth story. Its rather a funny one and very different to the birth of Cooper!

Saturday night I had a dull period pain and I said to Trent “oh maybe tonights the night” When infact neither of us believed it – we were resigned the fact that this baby wasn’t ready to come out as no real signs and the doctor didn’t seem overly convinced she would be making an appearance either.

So off to bed I went and slept solidley till midnight..woke up looked at the clock and went to the toilet – still a slight period pain but nothing to make mention of. Wee was normal no bloody shows or anything to suggest that I was in labour. Went back to bed and went back to sleep. Woke up at 2am with a sharp contraction like pain. I thought it was Braxton hicks so lied there and another one followed looked at the clock and it was 4 minutes from the last and another one followed after that. Still in my dazed and tired state I didn’t think much of it because the week before I had had nights of this. I did wake up Trent and said “I have bad pains do you think we should be timing this?” He grumbled something in his sleep like “nah your right darl just get some sleep” and gave me a cuddle. The pains kept coming but they weren’t unbearable – infact I dozed off to sleep and didn’t wake again till 6.30. At this stage I had a sneaking suspicion that I WAS in labour. I told Trent and he took me seriously but didn’t think it was “IT” and even if it was I thought it would be atleast till the night that I would have the baby – judging from Coopers 36 hour labour! Still no waters breaking or anything which I just assumed would have happened because that’s what happened with Cooper *not to self do not assume anything!* lol.

I lay in bed and the contractions come 4 minutes apart still and then 7 Cooper yells out to me so I go in get him out of bed. Get him dressed. Ring mum at work and tell her that I think the baby is coming but not to hurry up (she is one of my birth partners as well as trent). She too thought I would have a long labout and because I was so calm and telling her not to worry she just did what she had to do at work.

7.15 Trent decides maybe its for real and says I better go put petrol in the car – better get you breakkie too do you want maccas? I say I dunno if getting maccas is a good idea. Just hurry up. So off he went to get petrol and yes of course as men do to get maccas for breakkie and im at home with Cooper and the contractions heated up and Cooper cuddled me with each one and I realized they were 2 minutes apart!!! OMG! I rang my sister in a flap and my words were “I think im having this baby hurry and come and get cooper” She raced into town (10 minutes away) and ran up the drive way – with Trent following with his bag of macdonalds. They get in the door. Trent sits down to eat breakfast (OMG I KNOW!) I sit there cutting up coopers pancakes (yes I think I was in shock HAHA!) And the contractions kept on coming and then I got a sudden pain in my bum which felt all too familiar – what happened in the final stages with Cooper! So we said goodbye to cooper and RAN to the car. Lol.

Got the hospital at 8.10 and the midwife said to me. I told the midwife I needed to do a poo and she said no you don’t you need to have a baby HAHA! She checked me over and I was 6cm dialated. I stood up leaning over a table with a pillow and held onto Trent with each contraction which hurt like hell! I got to the pushing stage and then BANG there was a baby!!!!! 9.20am! That was quick! I remember saying NO MORE TRENT this hurts too much! They offered me gas. I had one puff and threw it telling them it didn’t do anything. No birth photos because mum didn’t make it and Trent and the midwife were busy attending to me lol. Trents words to me “OH we have a little girl” and I said over and over to him “a girl are you sure? OMG I have a little girl” I was still hanging over the bed at this stage so hadn’t had a chance to see her. The midwife couldn’t believe it and said “She is a big girl I have no idea where you hid it!! I didn’t think you were having a baby when I first saw your tummy little own a big one lol” I turned around they passed her to me and she looked much like Cooper did. But they were right she was sooo chubby and just perfect! She went straight on the boob and went for gold. I held her till the doctor come – Trents mum and my mum were waiting at the door for a look – mum disappointed that she missed the birth but very happy. MIL couldn’t believe it was a girl and very excited aswell.

They took Shelley away to get weighed and the doctor fixed me up (had a second degree tear right where I tore with Cooper). Then I went and freshened up with a shower and was greeted afterwards by one VERY PROUD and happy Big brother! He was sooooo excited and had a little balloon and some “little sister socks” for her and gave her a kiss and cuddle as soon as he saw her. It made my heart melt he was just soooo gorgeous! Cooper then got the priveledge of “pushing” Shelley down to her room in her little trolley, he thought it was so special and had a grin from ear to ear.

Mum, my sister and Cooper then left to go shopping for pink stuff while Trent and I stayed at the hospital. We couldn’t believe that we had a little girl…we were both sure that we were having a boy. We made the phone calls and sat and watched her sleep for awhile..and Trent left as during the rest period to come and start preparing the house. You know im glad we didn’t move out here – something was telling me it wasn’t such a good idea before the baby was born. I honestly don’t think we would have made it into town!

So that’s the birth story of Shelley Lea Keith, weighing 9lb12ounces (still cant believe that!) Head circumference of 37 and 55cm long. She is a healthy little girl – I can see some resembelence to Cooper but I think its too early to really tell just yet.

The hospital staff were a bit to be desired – they were nice enough but I barely saw them unless I buzzed and wanted something. The first night she was a bit naughty and was using me as a dummy – big girls want lots of feeding but not fun when mummy doesn’t have milk yet lol. So they took her to the nursery and she wasn’t happy lol. I managed to get a bit of sleep and they brought her back at 5 in the morning. The next day she slept a lot and was really content and continued to be good through the night. The next day they told me I was right to go home - (they were full up in other words and needed some spare beds). For a new hospital their service was pretty cr@p! Not once did I get checked out by a doctor or my stictches checked. Only asked by the midwife once if my stitches were OK. Blood pressure and temp checked once.

The baby got checked by a doctor on the last day I was there before we went home and he was the only part that I was impressed about. They stuffed up our dinner orders each night and people were getting different peoples everywhere. I know it’s a new hospital but these things were a bit disappointing. The overall stay wasn’t too bad im just glad it was my second baby and I didn’t need the midwifes or doctors as much as I would have if it would have been my first.

I was happy to get out of there and to our brand new home. A little hesitant but more so I wasn’t sure how Cooper would cope but all is good – his settling in really well. Not sure it has all sunk in yet. He has a cold which isn’t too good but he is being a pretty good boy overall. Our dogs on the other hand aren’t doing so well. The MIL rang this morning to tell us Axel was howling all night (poor doggy!) So we are off to collect him and Roxy today. Roxy will be on a long chain for a week (and frequent let controlled let offs because the fence isn’t finished yet!) So today might be a trying day with the dogs – but Trent can deal with that!

Shelleys first day/night at home was a success she has been such a good girl, feeding and sleeping well. I managed to get lots of sleep last night (as much as you can with a newborn lol) She woke every 3-4 hours for a feed, fed and went straight to sleep. Hopefully she stays that way!! She is such a big chubby bubby and ill post some pics soon. OH well – Big is beautiful! 

That’s my story – We are all doing well and enjoying the new addition to our family. The only complaint I have is my coxic is really sore and I find it hard to walk by the end of the day. I have to leave it for a week or so and if its still as bad as it is then I have to go see the doctor and he will order an ultrasound and some physio on it. But all in all im extremely happy! A boy and a girl who would have thought! And THAT’S ITS! Please feel free to remind me I said that if at all I get clucky lol.

So i will try and catch up soon properly soon. As you can all imagine we are pretty packing our stuff away and getting settled. Cooper is coping well though and just adores his sister! Not quite sure why she cant have his toys and stuff just yet but he is just lovely with her.

Talk soon guys. Im only on dial up at the moment so i might be a bit scarce.

Sorry again Anna about the text :( Im so cranky with my phone right now i want to throw it (at the "new" hospital lol)

[cath]

Hi there,
Anna I can't wait to see some photos of Alex (and the girls of course) - I can just imagine him looking all grown up -it has all gone so fast hasn't it? I can totally undertand your desire to have more children (as trying as they can be). It all sounds a bit nuts there with Immy's bedtime dramas! Do you think maybe she would be better if she was in a room with her sisters or would that not work at all? Maybe if she was in with them she wouldn't feel the need to get up and see what everyone was up to. How annoying about her wakng Alex! I get so annoyed when Will is peacefully asleep and then Paddy decides to have a tantrum while he is going to bed or something and then wakes him up.We've actually recently swapped the bedtime routine around so Paddy is happily settled in bed first and then I feed Will and put him in 10-15 minutes later which is working much better -if Paddy is carrying on about anything then at least Will is still awake and not disturbed. I can imagine Immy will find it a bit weird having both her sisters at school. You must be so busy doing drop offs and pick ups. Is Nicola finishing eariler than Chelsea at this stage?

Tan how is that slab looking? Can Will play outside yet?

Renee I hope Katelyn lets you get some decent sleep soon - pregnant women need their sleep! The tantrums are fun aren't they? Paddy has some shokcing days (like yesterday) which are even worse becuase he doens't have that day sleep anymore and sometimes he really is just so tired that he collapses into tears over the silliest things.

Anyway I am waiting for Will to wake up so I can hit the shops. Paddy has gone off to the zoo with Dean's parents which is great but he will be back before I know it and I have so much shopping to do. I don't think I am going to get it all done. I wanted to get to the market and get the cheap fruit and vegies which I can not logisitically do with the 2 kids (ends up too heavy and I can't put enough of it in the pram and ultimately I can't carry it all and push the pram) but I also really need to go to Kmart and get stuff on sale that ends today. Will had crazy little naps yesterday and of course this morning he is having a big sleep when I would have been happy with a little nap -can't win!

Hope everyone is well and chat soon.

[cath]

Oh Hayley I just read your post and it bought tears to my eyes -I just love birth stories!! Well done woman! You sounded amazingly calm -getting Cooper dressed and fed while in labour -crazy! I have this picture of Trent running up to the house with his Maccas bag and then sitting down to eat breakfast - hilarious!! That is amazing that Shelley was 9lb12oz -where was she tucked away? No wonder you felt sick so often -she must have been pushing on your insides in a major way. That is so cute about Cooper pushing her to the room and being such a good brother. It is such an exciting time for you with your new daughter and new house - enjoy it all (even the 3 hourly feeds -they really are only little like that for such a small amount of time)! How annoying about the hospital -sounds like pretty **** medical care! Can't wait to see Shelley's picture -I bet she is jsut gorgeous. Look after yourself and I hope the coxic pain goes away -sounds a bit horrible. Great to hear from you and congratulations!

[bingo]

Oh just a quick one from me - I just read your post Hayley and I had tears in my eyes, especially the part where you first got to hold Shelley :p. Such a great birth story. That was the sort of birth I dreamt about with Maddi! I did laugh lots when Trent ate his Macca's while your there madly cutting up Coopers pancakes. Very funny the way these guys react to urgent situations. I didn't get a text either :(! Anna and I will have to give you a hard time Hayley! Just kidding - it sounds like you had just enough time to only send one text anyways. I was just glad to hear you had the baby safe and sound and what a whopper. Can't wait to see some photo's of Shelley.

[Wivi]

Hayley! Hurray! She's back!

What an amazing birth story - sounds just like my birth with Will except that he was a tiny dot of a bub unlike your chubby one! (so more credence to you dear - what an effort!) Trent sounds so funny with the Macca's - did he get to finish it?

Cooper sounds as though he is going well with the changes, it sounds as though he was very ready to be a big brother. My goodness, a new baby and a new house all at once. I hope the dogs settle in ok. I will be reading anxiously about the BF though - it sounds like it is going alright so far.

Renee - good to hear from you. Glad the MS is settling now and that another scan is just around the corner. I hope Katelyn's sleep settles down again soon - Cath's right, you need all the sleep you can get.

Cath - do you live nice and close to the zoo? We still haven't managed to take Will to the zoo. It takes us about an hour to get there (that's driving, it's even longer with trains and ferries) and it's very expensive at Taronga. Still - we hope to take him before the bub is born, I think he will love it! You sound as though you have been having some trying days with Paddy too, it must be so tiring when he isn't having a day sleep. How is your e-baying going? Are you making some nice pocket money?

Well - our slabs are pretty much dry but the guy who was supposed to come and put our garden shed up today....FORGOT! Troy rang him to see where he was and was treated to a round of expletives when the guy realised he had forgotten. Not directed at Troy - it sounded like it was quite funny actually. Will can kind of play in the yard at the moment - but it is still all dirt and rocks and will be for a couple more weeks. He just goes out there and climbs all over the rubble and throws rocks around a bit. It's not fantastic, but it is ok.

Anyway I had better get off here. Am feeling very sleepy today and I have a late appointment with a work client. Might have to see if I can nap when Will does.