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My DS was posterior for the majority of my labour. He turned at the last minute (thank god, otherwise I would have had to go to another hospital.)
Anyway, my contractions were so painful in my back that actually pushing DS out was easy & relatively painless. Another lady in the maternity ward, had 4 babies - one of which was posterior. She told me that it was the worst labour she had, and after having a prosterior baby, the other deliveries were easy. I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced the same thing?
I want to have another baby (not just yet) but I'm pretty scared about the contractions - the actually delievery doesnt concern me at all.
Hi Sharon my DS was posterior too & I still swear I think my back almost broke - :mad: . My OB told me there was a higher risk of subsequent posterior births so I was absolutely dreading it but DD wasn't & even with a few post delivery comlplications it was a breeze!!
For some women posterior is just another position. It's never been considered a problem in obstetrics until recently and I'm truly horrified to see women getting c-secs over something so basically normal. It's not a pathological condition, it's just how the baby is lying and unless you have an epidural and can't move you can help your baby move in labour. Only about 3% of babies stay OP throughout birth if the mother can move around as we are designed to in labour. Epidurals and lying down only cement poorly aligned babies in place. But if we were all practicing optimal foetal positioning there would be significantly fewer OP babies anyway! If your CP didn't tell you about OFP write them a letter of complaint. It's SO basic!
Optimal Foetal Positioning Essential and FREE for all birthing women!
'Optimal Foetal Positioning' is a theory developed by a midwife, Jean Sutton, who found that the mother's position and movement could influence the way her baby lay in the womb in the final weeks of pregnancy. Many difficult labours result from 'malpresentation', where the baby's position makes it hard for the head to move through the pelvis, so changing the way the baby lies could make birth easier for mother and child.
UK Midwife Archives page on presentation, from the Association of Radical Midwives (www.midwifery.org.uk)
The Midwife Archives on the gentlebirth.org website have an amazing collection of wisdom and experience on just about every subject related to pregnancy and birth. The pages on positioning start at http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/position.html
Belly mapping, labour and pregnancy positions.
Diaphragmatic release to move a posterior baby.
Only about 3% of babies stay OP throughout birth if the mother can move around as we are designed to in labour. Epidurals and lying down only cement poorly aligned babies in place. But if we were all practicing optimal foetal positioning there would be significantly fewer OP babies anyway!]
Thats interesting. My midwife made me lay on my side for the last 1 - 2 hours of my labour to encourage the baby to move. It did work but i was in so much pain, walking around helped but she wouldnt let me.
My baby was posterior and as she was my first I have nothing to compare my labour and delivery to. My contractions were felt in my back so my partner would rub my back REALLY hard while having one. I also found a bath and shower helped with pain relief.
I must admit, I didn't know much about the posterior position (and still don't!) . At my baby shower a friends mother who is a midwife suggested I start crawling on all fours so that bub would be in the "right" position for birth. Wasn't to sure what she was talking about so did it half-heartly at home a few times. The midwife didn't suggest different positions when I was in labour and I ended up on my back to give birth (I had gas and pethidine so was a bit spaced out, just did what the midwife told me!).
But I will be reading up about posterior positions and how to move bub before the next bub.
I have been told that doing prenatal yoga helps prevent baby from being posterier. All the positions you do encourage optimal positioning, so maybe with your next pregnancy you should consider this. I have done it throughout my pregnancy and I have found it great for back pain and relaxation. I also found out in my antenatal classes that the midwifes encourage you to use the same positions in labour to help baby move down, so hopefully I will already be comfortable with them and that will help keep it moving fast and smoothly! :fingerscrossed:
My DS was posterior and induced. I'm trying to do what I can to ensure that this baby is in the best position possible for birth.:fingerscrossed:
The spinning babies site Janet suggested is fantastic. It gives great info on figuring out where you baby is etc. Good luck and I will let you know whether this labour is any better than the last (I'm sure it will be;) )
Avoiding induction helps with that too since babies normally move into a more optimal position when they're ready to be born and induced babies aren't ready so they can't or don't move :( You're off to a flying start this time! :smiliedance:
I was induced with my oldest son, he was posterior and i ended up with a c/section 'cause he got stuck. My youngest son was posterior also. My midwife gave me some tips on how to try and get baby to move, they only kind of worked though 'cause his head was faced to the side and the Ventouse had to be used. I had intense back labour with both of my boys and want to do everything i can to avoid that if possible!! We're ttc again and i want to have a look at as much info as possible on the subject. Thanks for the links JanetF!!! :)
bubs was prosterior and I was in so much pain the whole time I thought I was going to die! because of this my labour long but I foind that rocking really helped with the pain and I also had my mum push down on my lower back with a heat pack thru each contraction.....
My first was posterior and despite moving as much as I could, using the bath, being on all fours, etc, etc, etc for a large part of the first 24 hours, she only turned as she was being delivered by the forceps - and yes - it felt like my back was breaking each time.
DD2 was induced and started posterior but turned within the first 15 minutes and the pain was completely different.
Jayden was the same he was posterior right up until the end. All my contractions was in my back and it was so painful. I cant help you with what other labours feel like but im hoping that this bub doesnt copy her brother! :fingerscrossed:
I was in the same boat as the rest of you ladies. DD was stuck, an over-sized pair of salad tongs was required and I never want to have another child ever again!
My first son was also posterior right up until the end of a 36 hour labour!!! (and I moved and moved and moved). I was five minutes away from a c-section (due to both of us being worn out) when my little guy decided it was okay to arrive! It is the most painful labour I have experienced and ALL the pain was in my lower back, I'm totally surprised I didn't break in half! That's the bad part...........
The good part is that I have had two more children since then and the labours were a BREEZE and pretty quick - 6.5hrs and 3.5hrs. No back pain.......at all........phew. So don't let your first experience put you off having more kids :)
My third labour was horendous compared to my first two. Nette was posterior the whole time and i felt every contraction in my back. i also spent most of the labour (4.5hrs) moving around or on all fours until the last hour. She also got stuck because of her rugby player shoulders but luckily there were no instruments needed to get her out. It is not an experience i wish to have again, but it has not put me off having another child.
My 1st and 3rd were posterior, and I ended up with emergency c/secs for them.... hospitals said that 1st was 'ftp' and then 3rd they considered 'cpd', though how they came to that conclusion since I only dilated to 7cms I'll never know....they were making it up as they went along as far as I'm concerned!!! After reading Jean Suttons OFP book I realised it was because none of these so called professionals wanted to be patient enough for my posterior babies to turn to the right position......
my 2nd was anterior, and the labour was a breeze (in fact, I got bored).....it only got painful when the midwife suggested to break my waters to see if it might make a difference, and then wham, his head landed in my cervix hard and all hell broke loose - but only for an hour, as this had sent me straight into transition, and after 5 pushes, (even with the cord round his neck) he popped out....I didnt need any stitches, though I did graze due to the fast delivery.
This time I am determined to get this baby into anterior before the birth, as I know how much easier a baby is to birth in this position!!!
It took private midwifery care to teach me about OFP - why dont they teach this as routine in hospitals? Why dont OB's teach this? I think Jean Sutton's "optimal feotal positioning" should be required reading for EVERY maternity health care professional!! I have no idea why this book is out of print, it described what I went through as perfect as though Jean had been observing each of my labours in person, so what she teaches is imperitive to every woman about to give birth!
I think alot of the traumatic birth experiences we hear about are most likely due to a baby being in posterior. I know because I can contrast my posterior labours with my anterior labour.
If women knew that labour is totally tolerable (painful, but never that feeling you get with a posterior baby that you are might die - God forbid!) with an anterior lying baby, then I think more women would opt out of elective c/sections......
oh well......sorry to turn it into a rant :o I just really wish someone had educated me on OFP with my first baby, and I might have never ended up with 2 unnecessary c/sections......
*raises hand* my son was posterior too and seeing as I can't compare it to another labour I will have to take the doc's word that it is about 50% more painful than it could've been. God knows I was screaming for pain relief!!
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