New Year 2008, October 2007 Mummies Chat! [Archive] - Bub Hub Pregnancy & Parenting Forum

abiishu

02-01-2008, 07:23

Just copying my post from the last thread:

Happy New Year everyone! :party: Hope you all enjoyed yourselves last night bringing in 2008! :smiliedance:

I took Sam to her grandparents for dinner, but we did not end up staying... Not long after we got there Sam started screaming, and screamed and screamed for an hour or so! I have never heard her scream her little head off like that before, so of course I was worried and we ended up coming home early. But then as soon as we got in the door at home she was fine, and went on to have a decent night's sleep too! Sure gets confusing trying to figure these babies out sometimes :confused:

Anyway, the new year is here (I was in bed fast asleep at 12!) and today we are tidying the house and getting packed for our trip away. Weather is starting to ease too, so should not be too bad. So excited, our first family holiday! :D

And Glad to hear you got some answers from the doc, and something to help with the pain. Hope it works for you and doesn't take too long to turn up!

Antlmummy Sure looks like Libby enjoyed her cake! And the canvas you made her looks fabulous, it is something she will be able to treasure for many years to come. We too did not get the camera out enough on Christmas day, it is always a shame looking back at the missed photo opportunities.

Mich I don't think Sam likes going out at night either! I can't really trace her little screaming spell last night back to anything, other than she would normally be fast asleep in bed rather than out and about with so many people around. Definitely will make me think twice before going out at night again, as she does not seem to be able to get a good sleep when we are out and about. I like your New Yeras resolution too :laughing: I might have to pinch that one and add it to my list!!

abiishu

02-01-2008, 07:37

Jo Love all your paintings! You are very talented, sounds like you have a house full of original artworks. I wish I could find some inspiration to do some - I bought three canvases for Sam's room before she was born but still haven't done anything with them.

Nat Hope your back settles down and you managed to get a bit of a sleep in!

Cassie Hope Afrika starts to put on the weight for you soon. Glad you got to have a bit of a break when DH was home :yes:

Sam's Mum I like the rewards you have put in place for your new year's weight loss :laughing: I am hoping to shed some of my extra baby kgs as well, maybe I should put a rewards system in place too! Sure DP would like it ;)

It seems bubs can be so very different in reaching milestones, Sam has not started rolling yet, but has been giving us a giggle every now and then for a few weeks. Glad to hear Belle has got rolling figured out, bet her cute little giggles are not far off!

Well we are off on holidays later today, hope everyone enjoys the rest of their week! :smiliedance:

AnD05

02-01-2008, 10:59

:wave:

SpringPetal - Have a great holiday! I'd love to go away somewhere at the moment, but have to wait till March when we are off to Melbourne for a g/fs wedding. I can't wait to hit the shops!

Jo - You are one clever girl :yes:, those canvases look great! I cheated and had a friend from work paint me three for DSs room. Talking about creativity, I really really need to start DSs scrapbook!!

Antlmummy - Glad to hear xmas went well. I hope Angie settles for you and that she is not getting sick. That weather must suck. Good idea you said 'no' to going away, that would of been interesting to say the least! Hope your back eases up soon, do you see anyone for it? Chiro, Physio ?

Cassie - Sorry to hear you are still having such a rough time with Afrika, I bet you can't wait to get to the specialist, I really hope they can sort something out, its crazy and she can't go on like that, neither can you. :hugs:

Quiet day for us again here. I really need to go and do some food shopping but I know the shops will be so busy again so Im going to wait till tomoro I think! DS had a rough NewYearsNight where he managed to throw up more than he usually does and did the same the following day (yesterday). It seems to have dropped off though today which is nice! He is starting to go to bed earlier but that means he is waking 2wice for a feed during the night now. I really hope he starts to stretch out his feeds soon!

Well better go and do that vacuuming Ive been putting off!

Have a lovely day all!

A

AnD05

02-01-2008, 12:34

Not partilularly looking forward to the specialists, it has been nice to have a whole months break from them over christmas (we were seeing them weekly/fortnightly before then). If I don't start force feeding her to put weight on again they will put her back in hospital.
They already know there is nothing medically wrong with her, it's just her (yes, babies seem to be able to have attitude problems at this age! lol).

You should go to the shops today, Thursdays always seem the busiest of days to me... Dh tells me it's pension day :laughing: I try to never have to go to the shops and make DH stock up for me when he is home. Although sometimes that means the only thing I have left is DSs food (although he does eat some pretty good meals!) and bread so I quite often just have toast, lol.

Fair enough, I can't imagine how stressful it would be going back and forth every week. Did you end up having her eyesight checked? I think I remember you expressing some concern about it?

As far as the shoppings concerned I now don't have a choice, I have to go today as my g/f & her b/f are coming down from Perth tomoro morning and we will need food! We actually have more tourists than pensioners down here at this time of year, I know its great for the local businesses but it makes things a bit more tricky for us locals and its just starting :rain: too! Hhmm this will be fun!

A

AnD05

02-01-2008, 15:05

Cassie - Back from shopping - what a nightmare, it was sooo busy and the lines at the checkouts were crazy but luckily they moved reasonably fast and DS was an :angel: and slept! At least now we have food :D.

Wow, good luck with all those appts! Do you think you'll get the surgery done once she is 12mnths?

AnD05

02-01-2008, 16:56

If Im only getting a couple of things I use the pram but if Im doing a decent shop I use the capsule trolleys. DS doesnt seem to mind these and can usually sleep in them ok. It was only a 20min nap but just long enough for me to get it all done in peace! Didnt think I was going to have much luck when I put him down for the rest of his sleep once at home but he nodded off and is still asleep :yelclap:.

So many shops are not pram friendly :mad: it sucks! How do they expect us to spend $$ in their store if we can't get in! :detective:

Oh anyone got any experience with getting wisdom teeth out? The other day I thought I was getting an ear infection as I had a really sore ear and throat. Then I realised that my back bottom right side of my mouth was hurting/tender and thought that maybe it was my wisdom teeth giving me grief :confused:. I hate the dentist am putting off going for a check up :(.

Can't believe its 2008! I keep forgetting and saying 'Oh next year.....' then I realise that its now actually this yr! :detective:

AnD05

02-01-2008, 18:20

Hhmm note to self : Ring dentist :yes:

Shakey

02-01-2008, 18:54

i'm still here :yes:

been cooking tea and stuff

mischief79

02-01-2008, 19:42

Just a quick one cos I want to watch ER. BBL for personals cos I haven't even read the pages since my last post.

New Years went well. Engagement party then went to my friends hosue warming......

DD started crying, had to go help her resettle and now it's time for ER!!

BBL

mischief79

02-01-2008, 21:21

Back now..... gosh I love that show!!

Jane - that's great that Belle is rolling over already! Katelyn is starting to dig her heals in and push backwards when she's on her back and kind of rocks when she's stretching. But like someone said, when she starts moving I'll keep losing her!

Natalie - Cute that Angie had some of her cake before it was time! Hmmm.... now I want a piece of cake!

Jo - great paintings! I wish I was more creative. I have trouble drawing a straight line with a ruler. Thinking about maybe trying scrapbooking or something.

Cassie - how premmie was Afrika? Is that the cause of a lot of her health problems? Seems like it's getting to the point where you've seen half the doc's in WA! Good luck with all the appointments

Anna - I know what you mean about busy shops. I went to Coles on Christmas Eve and I will NEVER go before a public holiday again! Night times at about 8pm are great for shopping if you can. Hardly any people around, and night-fill has started so you can get most things. Friday nights are even better! (Guess that shows how exciting my weekends are)

Okay.... our New Years was good. Dragged poor Katelyn around but she was sooooo good. She slept on and off either on me or in someone's arms, didn't want to go in her pram. She just kept opening her eyes to make sure I was there and then she's drift off again. She was awake for the count down at my girlfriends house, so maybe a future party animal. My g/f's house is one they've just moved into, so no furniture around, but I loved the house!! Most things that I've always wanted for my house. Now I'll just have t spend more time at hers.

To those of you having their bub's night sleeps go backwards, we now have the same problem. She was sleeping from about 9pm until about 7am but now there are a few more wakes in the night and she wants a feed. maybe the hot weather.

DH and I had our first counselling session today. Went better than I thought because he actually came with me! Up until we went he has been all like "you can't make me, and what will it fix" but I was strong and said he had to come or we would leave. Luckily he came.... I think it's going to work well for us. We go back next Tues so we'll see.

:wave:

Grizabella

02-01-2008, 21:22

Hey guys

Busy day - I was at work with Stu helping him get stuff de for the pub - placing an ad for staff, getting a skip, ordering. Fun stuff really. Back there tomorrow to train a new barmaid, and then will be back at work every SUnday. Now the SUnday Session is up and running they need experienced staff, so I am looking forward to it. I will be doing a double, and Stu will be looking after the boys. He is looking forward to the one on one time with the kids, so will be a nice change for both of us.

I am taking Brion out of daycare soon. He is going through a very sooky period and it is genuinely upsetting him not being at home with me. Also I don't think he is getting enough one on one time there and he needs that esp as he can't communicate his needs properly as he still isn' speaking yet. Two weeks until we go see the ENT so we're slowly getting there.

Toran is great he is having another growth spurt LOL I feel kinda slack as he doesn't get a huge amount of tummy time etc but he is either asleep, feeding or full of milk. In any case he is never in a good position to be his tummy unless I feel like cleaning up the overflow :laughing:

RE Wisdom teeth: I had all four (two were compacted) as well as four other teeth taken out at the same time. Needless to say they did it under a general. Can't say it was very painful, just waking up with a mouth full of soggy spit and blood soaked wadding was kinda gross! Other then that not much to report. I am getting a filling in a week as well as getting my teeth professionally cleaned and bleached. As an ex smoker my teeth aren't as pristine as they used to be so I would like new teeth for my new year :D

Am starting to house hunt now - we will be buying early this yr (feels weird saying that!) so I want to see what is out there. I want to stick to this area, it's very nice, and we have a reasonable budget so shouldn't be too hard to find something we like.

Hope everyone is well. I promise I will do some personals next time. So hard to keep track of everyone!

saremc

02-01-2008, 21:38

Hey guys!

Been a big day took DF to work then went to SuperAmart to buy the lounge sweet tryed to put it on laybuy but they dont do that :mad: you have to apply for stupid finance grrrrr so we had to dig into the Isabelle's money. So mad it was just the same as applying for a credit card but with hidden costs. But any ways we got it at such a barging :yelclap: and it is being delivered tomorrow yay!!! we have moved the old ones out and all i have to do in the morning is vaccume.

Also did heaps of cleaning DF was at home for four days and wreaked the joint!!!

Other than that im so buggered and off to have a shower and head for the sack hope you are all well BBL for personals

Ohh almost forgot i cant remember who asked about the fenugreek but it does work my supply has gotten so much better expecially in the afternoon when it is at its lowest!

:sleeping:
Will post a photo of my ring found the cord for the camera today will do that tomorrow!

TeamAwesome

03-01-2008, 08:51

Hey girls,

well loving the rain for my older two cos they've been sleeping in until almost 8am and then coming out very happy little people which is a nice change to them being little grumps when they were waking up at 6 or earlier from the sun shining into their room.

Angelina must be having a massive growth spurt after being so out of sorts for a few days she now only seems to sleep and feed, stay up grumpy for an hour or so then go back to sleep...

speaking of Angelina she's crying for a feed so will BBL for personals!

Natalie

saremc

03-01-2008, 08:56

ohhh fprgpt tp say i love the paintings! :yes: i just cannot find the time anymore lol with DF and all grr the house is still messy but im waiting for the new couches to arrive :smiliedance:im so excited!

BBL to post the piccie of my ring!

:flowerz:

michblb

03-01-2008, 09:43

Hi girls

Warning of impending pity post. I am so over this baby and lack of :sleeping:. DH keeps asking if i want another but I don't even want this one atm.

Hmm start at the beginning, the rotten child has been snacking on her feeds (most times taking half a bottle) during the day and is then starving, feeding up to 3 times in the night. So last week I tried reducing her 3am feed uping her last and first bottle in the morning, it worked and she did two long sleeps between feeds. Sorry think I've posted this before. Then DH took over and for some stupid reason fed her the biggest bottle at 3am in the morning.:hair: So have basically fired DH from doing nights until they are sorted, although he stayed up to do the 11pm feed last night. Although he couldn't get all her wind up so handed her over to me.:hair:

Anyway Tuesday night she di 6 hours, but last night she woke at 2am so I put in the dummy patted her back to sleep, then she woke at 3am, put her back to sleep, then she kept wriggling around waking me up (yep we still sleep int he same bed) until 4 am when I got the sh*ts and fed her the small bottle (she only went 5 hours between feeds). Went back to sleep until 5am but rolled around so much kept me awake.:hair: At 5am fed her the big morning bottle but she only wanted a snack of 40 mls:hair: and then woke up when I was burping her. Even with ear plugs I could hear her cooing and squeeling gggrrr. So put her in her swing and tried to go back to sleep. Anyway we've had a few naps since of an hour here and there. I am so tired my muscles feel weak and my eyes have sand behind them.

I want her to sleep longer through the night but am nnot sure that this is worth it. Had an appointment in the city which i cancelled cause am too shattered. Only reason I can think that she was hungry last night is that she refused to take her 6pm bottle so she basically missed a feed, which seems to have a knock on effect.

Well sorry for this long boring tale, I don't know why she is such a fussy feeder. Everytime I take her to get checked out she feeds like a champion and they look at me like I'm crazy. I'm due to go back to work in 10 weeks but there is no way we would cope both working, sharing the night feeds they way they are. Will give this trial a week (I couldn't cope with any longer) and if it doesn't work just go back to feeding her at night.

Hope everyone has a good day am off for some more :sleeping: ho9pefully.

michblb

03-01-2008, 09:50

Just quickly before I go, wanted to say:

Love ya prints Jo

Anna, I had 2 wisdom teeth taken out both in the chair and it doens't hurt doing it does, make sure you get a script for some good pain killers like Tramil or something. Whatever you do dont' let them send you home with panedine fort, cause it won't be enough.

Sara, can't wait to see photos of your ring.

Sorry cna't think of any more will try better next time.

saremc

03-01-2008, 11:13

Ohh mitch that sucks i hope you get something worked out so you can get some sleep i know what its like to have no sleep Bella did that for about a week three night feeds and now she is sleeping through :smiliedance:

Opp Bella is awake gtg

Shakey

03-01-2008, 12:06

Mich sorry to hear your having a bit of a rough time, I remember DS doing that, he didn't sleep through till about 9mths I think, up untill then he was still waking for one feed a night, I so know what ya mean about being so tired, DH was away overseas till DS was 8mths old so I did it all on my own, thats probably why the first 6mths is all a blur to me now, i'm sure things will start looking up soon, hopefully this weeks trial will work for ya

Sara where's that pic????????

Jude sounds like your happy to be going back to work, will be good for you to get time to yourself so to speak, how old is Brion now? i'm taking DS out of kindy too, but am putting him in another one thats more one on one, I hate the one he's at now

Cassie I have heard that theory before, and for normal babies that have no feeding probs will be fine with that, I don't know many babies that are fine not being helped burb though, in saying that sometimes Alexis will burp while feeding off me, she stops for a sec, burps then starts feeding again, its very funny

mischief hope that councilling works for you, glad he went, even if it was last minute,

Nat i'm so over this rain we're having, its driving me up the wall, my washing is piling up like no tomorrow, we live in a small house so can't have a chinese laundry going, and DS just wants to go outside all the time, he would happily play out in the rain lol, I hope we get a couple of clear days soon, once my washing is all caught up then it can rain again :yes:

well i've decided we have to move from this house, its just too small for 2 kids and 2 adults, only prob though is that we have no money to shift with, might have to win some money so we can shift, i'm really starting to hate this place, we've got no storage for our towels/sheets etc, no storage for anything, we can't even fit out dining room table in the dining room (if you can call it that), I can't even really put Alexis down on the floor anywhere cause there is no room, and i'm worried DS will trip over her or something

Milliner

03-01-2008, 12:23

Hi girls, Just got back from Mira's weigh in and she has put on 1100gms in 4 weeks. She is just under 5kgs now. The nurse was so surprised as she is putting on more weight than normal, yet still vomiting a fair bit from the pyloric stenosis.

Burping - I don't hit, or rub. I will sit Mirabella up after a feed during the day and she will burp if she needs to. At night I don't even move her after a feed she goes to sleep and I leave her and have never had any problems. She will vomit during the day but never at night. I think the ' FRIM patting' of the back is a very old fashioned way of 'burping' and I also tend to believe that breastfed babies don't need to be burped as much, as they are not sucking from a bottle with air trapped inside. As you can tell we are not big on the 'FRIM patting' ', I can't stand hearing the pounding on babies backs. *shudder*

AnD05

03-01-2008, 12:33

I think we killed the thread huh

Anyone would think having a baby is busy stuff :laughing:

I thought we had too but looks like eveyones come back to join us :D. Yeah like Im gonna turn my air con off today so my DS can throw more of his food up (he vomits more when hot)! This humid weather sucks! Hope it goes away soon. Yeah Ive heard the theory that they can burp themselves but def not all babies can do this, gee if I didnt help poor DS he's be a screaming mess all the time. Be nice though if he could burp himself!

Sara - :smiliedance:for your new lounge. Has it arrived yet? I love getting new furniture, I really want a dishwasher but our kitchen is an old style with low benches so fitting it in is quite a challenge. Can't wait to see the ring either.

Jude - Sounds like you are happy back at work which is great. Sorry to hear Brion isnt getting what he needs at daycare. Did you ever try the signing thing with him? I am starting with DS over the next few weeks, figure it can't hurt. Good luck with the ENT specialist. How exciting a new house!! I would love to build a house but that wont happen for a while if ever!

Mich - Sorry to hear you are having a rough time with DD. :hugs: to you. Lack of and broken sleep is such torture! Ds is only just getting better after a week or so of very unsettled sleep. I was also trying the putting the dummy in and resettling but seemed to be getting up every hour so in the end I fed him the first time (it had been a few hours since his last feed) and then he'd go through and get up once more. Now he's gone back to only waking once in the night. Sorry I don't have any helpful hints, can you ring the tressilian people again? Good luck hun, try and get some rest.

Mischief - So glad DH made the effort to go, that is a great sign! Hope it goes well for you. Also good that your new years was good, yup sounds like you might have a wild party animal on your hands :p.

Jo - Must be hard with limited space. I find it hard finding room for everything and our house is a decent size. Hope you can figure something out soon.

Well, got some friends coming down from Perth today to stay for a few days. Hopefully the weather is ok tomoro as the boys want to go out jetskiing again. Lucky for some! Taking DS to a chiro tomoro too, just to see if he can help at all with the reflux. Im willing to try anything! Medicine hasn't turned up yet, hopefully today or tomoro.

DS had a good night last night finally! He fed at 7pm, went to sleep at 8pm. I gave him a dream feed at 9:45pm and he slept till 4am. But then the poor thing was up till 5:15am :barf:. I didnt think he'd sleep for long but he made it through till 8:45am. I actually got 5 1/2hrs straight sleep and then 3 more hours! I couldnt believe it, although I still feel like I need plenty more. I can't complain though as its the most ive had for a while!

Grizabella

03-01-2008, 13:26

RE burping - I burp Toran. He likes it - in fact sometimes the only way he will be soothed to sleep is to "hit" him. I am sorry but I don;t regard patting a baby firmly on the back as "hitting". Hi8tting is if you slap or punch someone and burping defnately not that. If someone is actually hurting a child to burp them then they need their heads looked at.

Too much tiptoeing around common sense nowadays for fear of upsetting someone, drives me insane.

Grizabella

03-01-2008, 13:43

You hear whacking when I burp Toran, it's because I cup my hand to make the noise. He likes it as well as the motion of being burped. And his spine is perfectly fine as we go to a chiro and she checks it when we have our own readjustments.

As for the last comment , what I mean is that there is an obvious line between hitting a child and patting firmly. But people nowadays avoid using their commonsense and stop doing things all together for fear of judgement from others.

Milliner

03-01-2008, 13:49

The same goes for people not saying what they feel for the fear of being shot down. Who cares, do and say what ever you feel, parents will always do what they think is best for their child. No two people will ever agree on everything.

Milliner

03-01-2008, 13:52

Well said and couldn't agree more! :yes::yelclap:
I used to burp Logan the same way, only after being shown by the widwives though, and yes it did sound too loud until I actually did it, and it wasn't hard to all, just looks and sounds it. He used to love it as well, his eyes would light up and he would laugh while I did it!

See, I am the opposite. I was shown by a midwife (ask 10 different professionals and get 10 different answers, mind you) not to �pat� just to sit them up.

Grizabella

03-01-2008, 13:54

True - however with comments describing people who burp in that fashion as "hitting" their child can be offensive. I do disagree with you in view of burping, however I do not refer to your way as "mollycoddling" which could be offensive to those who hold the same views as you on the topic.

ETA I do not see the sitting version of burping as mollycoddling, to clear things up. Just an example of how a differing opinion can be phrased offensively. I am a firm believer that what works for some may or may not work for others. It's just the categorising of patting as "hitting" I did not appreciate.

AnD05

03-01-2008, 13:55

[quote=Catalyst;2228418]RE burping - I burp Toran. He likes it - in fact sometimes the only way he will be soothed to sleep is to "hit" him. I am sorry but I don;t regard patting a baby firmly on the back as "hitting". Hi8tting is if you slap or punch someone and burping defnately not that. If someone is actually hurting a child to burp them then they need their heads looked at. quote]

Finlay is the same. He likes being 'patted' and it def helps settle him to sleep. He gets quite bad pain and yup it sounds quite firm, I def dont regard it as hitting. He also gets checked by the chiro. If he didnt settle I wouldnt do it, but he settles very quickly with this technique.

Well Ds has just decided to skip his 12o'clock feed, grizzle for an hour and go back to sleep. :sleeping:Strange when its so warm but I guess he knows what he wants - well he certainly lets me know when he doesnt want to drink! We do have the air con on though so its pretty good in here.

Milliner

03-01-2008, 14:04

Sorry that my wording has offended you, I have now edited my post’s.

Grizabella

03-01-2008, 14:06

Thankyou, much appreciated.

Shakey

03-01-2008, 14:53

i'm a rubber if anyone cares :laughing: JK

Jude I too find that a gentle pat or a rub settles Alexis too, even when she doesnt' need burping

michblb

03-01-2008, 16:50

Wow, missed a whole convo in one day, I burp Charlie and she likes patting on the back too, or I rub her back in circular motions firmly clockwise and anticlockwise or sit her on my knee and rock her back and forward slowy. I find I have to use different methods, no one way gets it all up.

Thanks for the thoughts guys. Well after a nap, i feel 100% better - more human. Thanks Cass I know we've chatted about this before and i tried doing the 'if she doesn't want it don't force her' but it has made her feed more in the night. Generally if she misses a bottle I just count 3 hours until the next feed, but at night I cluster feed a bit and might do every 2 hours, if she'll take it. I think feeding her the little bottle at 4 this morning was probably a mistake but am trying to keep to the times of 11pm and 5am for big bottles. Does anyone cluster feed at night ie every hour before bubs does a longer stint between feeds?

Cass we tried her in her own cot but were so busy listening for sounds we got worse sleep so put her back in with one of us. he plan is if we can get her going longer stints thyis week we'll transition her to her cot after that. Am carrying around a poo bear comforter so it smells like me sorry tmi and we can put it in the cot with her.

Have been feeding her during the day when she is napping cause it's the only way she'll take her milk but am sure this isn't normal. She starts her bottle if she's awaqke but after 40mls or so is screaming and her body thrashes around?? DH agreed today we should take her to a paed.

Sometimes I think i might be a bit depressed but then I get a few night's good :sleeping: and I'm great again, think I just don't cope well on such broken sleep and even though DH offers to help, I do it myself cause I don't like the way he does it, so can't complain about it.

Anyway better go it's bath time. Will try to BBL for personals.

mischief79

03-01-2008, 21:07

Am starting to house hunt now - we will be buying early this yr (feels weird saying that!) so I want to see what is out there. I want to stick to this area, it's very nice, and we have a reasonable budget so shouldn't be too hard to find something we like.

Happy house hunting! I'd love to look for a new one but DH doesn't want to move. He bought our house with his ex-girlfriend who has disappeared off the face of the earth. With her name still on the mortgage and us not knowing where she is, we can't sell, refinance or anything. Pain in the a**

Ohh almost forgot i cant remember who asked about the fenugreek but it does work my supply has gotten so much better expecially in the afternoon when it is at its lowest

I'm def going to try fennugreek. Milk supply is fine but wouldn't mind a boost in the evenings

IMO everything gets better once they are about 10months+ and are on the move, that is when my son became a happy child. He practically grizzled his way through the first 9 months.

Here's hoping that things with Afrika are going to improve. You must be an extremely strong person to do this practically on your own, with DH working away.

Angelina must be having a massive growth spurt after being so out of sorts for a few days she now only seems to sleep and feed, stay up grumpy for an hour or so then go back to sleep...

Having the same issues in my house. At the mo it;s only eat and sleep. At least I'm getting mor rest inbetween!

Warning of impending pity post. I am so over this baby and lack of :sleeping:. DH keeps asking if i want another but I don't even want this one atm.

:hugs: to you Mich. What state are you in? A lot have a service where you can go and stay for an extended time (4 or 5 days and nights). You have a nurse with you almost all the time so that they can properley see what is going on.
I also agree with Cassie, I'd recommend seeing a doctor/psychiatrist because this could maybe bring on some PND. It's a fight I think I'm winning, and I'd hate for you to go through it.

Did anyone have the midwives tell them not to burp? I had DHs cousin come around the other day with her 2mo, and she said they are now recommending against burping because they think babies will bring it up on their own when they are ready :confused: Don't know about everyone elses babies, but if I don't get air out of Afrika a couple of times during a feed she will vomit twice as much! Not that she goes any longer than 10 mins without vomitting anyway :rolleyes::banghead:
I don't burp katelyn as such. I sit her up on my lap and rub firmly up and softly down for a few minutes, and then if nothing comes up, just leave her sitting upright for a bit. They usually work themselves out.

well i've decided we have to move from this house, its just too small for 2 kids and 2 adults, only prob though is that we have no money to shift with, might have to win some money so we can shift, i'm really starting to hate this place, we've got no storage for our towels/sheets etc, no storage for anything, we can't even fit out dining room table in the dining room (if you can call it that), I can't even really put Alexis down on the floor anywhere cause there is no room, and i'm worried DS will trip over her or something
Hope you can find the means to move. It must be hard with kids running under your feet.

Too much tiptoeing around common sense nowadays for fear of upsetting someone, drives me insane.
I agree. I'm one who doesn't like to say much in case I offend someone else. (yay for being pretty much annonymous on here!) I end up keeping most of my opinions to myself in the real world, but maybe it's time to open my mouth!

Katelyn has been asleep for most of today. Slept last night 8.30pm until 6am, then 7.30-11.30am, then 12.45-2.15pm and 6-8pm. Had to fight to get her down tonight. It's almost 10pm and she's on her way to sleep. She's been feeding normally again now (3hourish). Tonight is also the first night I'm not wrapping her! She's tucked under a sheet in her bassinet with her arms out. Lets see how many times she wakes herself during the night!

Is it just me, or are babies fists always in their mouths at the moment? Katelyn can't grab objects or toys yet, but she can hang on to fabric. As soon as there;s some in her hand, she's stuffing it in her mouth! A dummy during the day doesn't help, she';s not really trying to suckle. Is she the only one?

Getting ready for another scorcher tomorrow, and I've got to go out for a doctor's appt. I've got a sharp constant pain on my lower left side. I had a c/s and I'm worried that I may have done something to the muscles.

sam's mum

04-01-2008, 08:30

Mischief - isn't there anything you can do to get her name off your house? whenever she turns up again she will be able to claim a share of the current value of the house rather than the value when she left. Good luck with the doctor, hope that it is nothing serious. I hope that the counselling is helping too.

Catalyst - I love house hunting. We moved to our current house in July. The problem that we had when we bought our previous house was that I fell in love with everything, didn't stop and think about all the little things... How big are the rooms with furniture in them, how will we use each space, will the layout work for our family. The lesson that I learnt from buying this house is to take a careful note of all the fixtures and fittings. There are things not here that I am sure were here before, but I can't be 100%, more 98%. Curtains gone from one bedroom, cutlery divider from the drawer, only one oven rack in the oven, electric plug missing from end of built in lights (seriously :rolleyes:).

Jo - I wish I could paint, I really do, but I can't :hissy:. I am just hopeless.

My kids are impossible to burp, sometimes they will bring up a ripper while laying on their bellies. They are magnificent farters though :D just about take your hand off.

Belle is sleeping better and better at night. I am actually starting to feel human. Last night she fed at 7.30pm, went to sleep on the boob and slept all night. Woke at about 5.50am and chatted to herself in her cot, started to get a bit shirty at 6.10 so I got her up, played on the floor until 6.30 when I fed her. She is sleeping really easily during the day too. I have no plans to stop wrapping her any time soon. DS was wrapped until he was about 6 months, and then went into a sleeping bag for winter. I find it easier to be able to tell them sleep when we are out if I can wrap, it is a signal to them.

TeamAwesome

04-01-2008, 08:35

Hi girls,
well the kids are back to their old tricks of getting up around 6am, I was putting Angelina back to bed otherwise I would have got up so Aden decided to send them out to me thinking I was at the computer, then my brilliant 3.5 yo, Ty went back and told him "Mummy's taken the car and gone to the shops to buy me a fire truck" ROFL, I was very amused to hear his idea of where I was and almost woke Angie up laughing.

Sorry can't remember who asked but the kids are put into bed around 7pm. it doesn't matter what time they go down they'll still wake up early. Aden had the "brilliant" idea of letting the kids stay up on NYE until 10.30 they still woke up at 6.30am... Normally they do 7pm to about 7am but due to it being so bright after 4am they can be up anytime after the sun's up hence why I'm pleased about that side effect of the rain. shame it didn't last but it was nice on the whole two mornings it happened!

Jo- I too have a mountain of washing growing, also can't do the chinese laundry thing, the kids like to "help" and I end up with clothes all over the floor and generally grabbed by grubby hands when I'm not looking so just need to wash them again. vicious cycle really but I'd rather the pile then the double washing!
I hear you on the small house, I hope you can work it out so you get a new bigger place. We've been in some tiny places and now our current house isn't very big but it's got a HUGE back yard which is fantastic when it's not raining and doesn't have a big puddle in the backyard

Mich - :hugs: sleep deprivation is the worst form of torture I say. Maybe you could do what I used to do and go have a nap in the evening once your DH comes home or just after dinner or something like that and then take over? I know I'm blessed with Angelina being such a brilliant sleeper but my other two were shockers. oh and on the "do you want another one" question I got this one from the day after Ty was born:rolleyes: (and the same with the other two the day after) I say that you should wait until at least 6months to decide, Charlie should be sleeping much better then and you'll be able to think more clearly about it all.

some one mentioned burping, Unfortunately every baby is different, I had a farter for a first baby, Ty barely did an actual burp until he was about 4/5 months old, now that's hard to bring up, I was fortunate that I realised early on and was able to learn a good technique for him of strongly rubbing his lower back and pushing his legs up to help him. Libby having reflux could not be patted at all unless I wanted a massive :barf:everywhere! Angie needs a couple of different positions to burp, especially with the wild winds we're having even with all the windows and doors shut, (the baby getting windy due to being in the wind has not been an old wives tale for my kids)

Oops was supposed to call the Doctors for Libby her tonsil area is really swollen and red but not infected looking (if that makes sense) but it's not normal for a healthy little girl to have that and Aden had issues with his tonsils and adnoids, plus he had mulitple ear infections so I like to keep it in check.

Hope your babies are all kind to you today!

Natalie

mischief79

04-01-2008, 11:39

Re: DH's ex - we sat down with a lawyer once. We had to hire a Private Investigator who couldn't find her on ANY government roles, banks, lists or anything. There's no statute of limitations when it comes to property, so can't just wait x-years and then take her off. By us hiring the PI it proves we've looked and she can't/won't be found. Her mum knew where she was and wouldn't tell us. When we take her to Supreme Court we just have to prove that she has had no financial interest in the house in the 10 years that she's been gone. We have records to prove she changed her address, bank statements showing she doesn't pay the mortgage etc. We'd fight that she is only entitled to a share of the price of the house when she ws here (which was only 11 months!). Although we'd get the house, it's a long process and the Supreme Court costs about $10,000.00 to file, plus we'd have to pay stamp duty on the title. But the best thing is, if we prove we've tried to find her and that her mother knew where she was but didn't tell, then we can go to court without her, and her mother would end up wearing the bill - stamp duty too, for failing to disclose! Gotta save up though just in case.
The missing person's report is a good idea though. Might give that a go.

Too hot here to do ANYTHING today.....

mischief79

04-01-2008, 11:41

Also, she's a bit screwed in the head. Her sister died years and years ago, and she sometimes uses her name, or her middle name on documents. I reckon that's fraud......

michblb

04-01-2008, 11:49

Thanks Cass, I might give cluster feeding a go then, on night 3 of the trial - she only went 4 hours between feeds, so although I'm convinced that feeding is the prob she isn't backing my solution. Had a whinge to my mum and she ithinks there is nothing wrong with her she is just a fussy feeder like me as a bub:( who didn't sleep through the night until I was 1 yr old and snacked constantly, gggrrrr.

Will get a referral to the paed next week, my gp thought it might be reflux too but referred me to the tresillian ppl first. What formula is good for a bub with reflux?

Nat, hoep Libby's tonsils are ok, good point re waiting and forgetting the torture of sleep deprivation:D I only ever wanted one, well was never really fussed to be honest but DH wanted to do it sooner rather than later, being in his 40s. I can see why ppl go for more though, they are a wonder. Just not sure if it will be me! good idea re the evening nap, may just need one tonight.

Mischief, excellent that Bella is sleeping well for you, it doesn't take long to feel good again. I agree with u, I keep Charlie wrapped, syhe sleeps naked with 2 wraps otherwise she escapes and I have the fan circulating on us so she doesn't overheat, seems to work ok. And yes Charlie is sucking everything she can grap, wraps, my hands, her sleeve (which has a wing on it), her bib, anything and no doesn't want the dummy either. Guess it's just a stage. Good luck at the drs tomorrow, hope it's nothing serious. I know I vent a bit, especially on here but after a good 2 hour nap I feel better, I wouldn't trade Charlie for the world, just wish she wasnt loike me:laughing: mother's revenge isn't it??

Jude good luck with the house hunting, hope you find something qickly.

jo will keep fingers crossed u win lotto! We have very little storage too and it sucks. Do you have anywhere u could put in some storage cupboards? Doesn't sound like it. We have an old stationary cupboard which is gross as our linen cupboard, all the shelves are yukky. I'm not looking forward to when Charlie can crawl/walk as kid proofing wn'[t be easy, most of oru stuff is piled on te floor or in boxes on the floor. Sorry bub obn my lap is moving about.

Have a good day and sending sleep vibes to us all.

michblb

04-01-2008, 11:56

Mischief, that sounds like an awful thing to have to do, i hope it all works out without u having to go to court. DH and I took his ex to children's court over custody issues and it is horrible, although I'mn sure a bit different to the supreme court.

Oh forgot to mention finally measured Charlie she was born 52cm and at 3 and a half months is 68ch, and weighs a tonne but havne't weighed her in 3 weeks cause of xmas etc. Does anyone know is this normal? I think she'll be tall, DH's dad was over 6 foot and we're both quite tall.

mum_inlove

04-01-2008, 13:43

Hi everyone!! I haven't pop in for so long, but I've been reading the thread, so I'll start again and hopefully I could post quite regularly..

First of all, Merry christmas and a happy new year. Sorry it's a bit late. Hope everyone had a great time!

Well, Olivia is 11 weeks now, she's starting to smile a lot, only in the past a couple of weeks. So I'm happy as I was starting to get quite worry. When the chn measured her for her 8 weeks needles, she was right on the top line for the average length. At least she's gonna be taller than me.

Until now I haven't managed to put her in to a routine. I found it more difficult this time. When ds was her age, he was already in a 4 hourly routine and pretty much sleep through. Olivia sometimes still goes every 3 hourly and sometimes still wakes up during the night. At least she sleeps longer at night and only wake up once. But I think I will have to find a good routine that will work for all of us and try it. Dh wants to put her in the cot in her own room (she sleeps in a bassinet in our room), but I still don't want to. I just think it's easier this way for a couple of reasons, and I love having her close:).

Did I tell you all we had dh's family up here for christmas? There were 6 adults and 6 children + the 4 of us in a 4 bedroom house. I thought I would never make it till the end :laughing:. Luckily I could use b/f as an excuse to go to the room to have some peace for a bit lol. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, it was just the noise that got me. But now I'm lonely again, back to the normal days where I'm having a star wars language conversation with my 18 month old toddler :laughing:. Oh well, it is still good to have the house back to my self!

Olivia's crying, be back later :wave:

sam's mum

04-01-2008, 14:09

Oh forgot to mention finally measured Charlie she was born 52cm and at 3 and a half months is 68ch, and weighs a tonne but havne't weighed her in 3 weeks cause of xmas etc. Does anyone know is this normal? I think she'll be tall, DH's dad was over 6 foot and we're both quite tall.

Cass, they still have the height charts in the books in Queensland.

52cm at birth is about the 80th percentile. 68cm at 3.5 mths is off the top of the chart. it is 100th percentile for a 6mth old and average for an 8 month old. def a tall kid...

sam's mum

04-01-2008, 14:37

Maybe they are old books then, because I was told they were converting, and stuff like that is usually done across the board.

Either way, it is still normal, Logan's was similar, and he is tall now but it has slowed down. As long as they aren't going backwards theyre fine.

The book I have was released in May 2006. I don't really care about the height thing, I just wish that they would update the books to include the breastfed baby charts issued by WHO.

michblb

04-01-2008, 15:35

Cass, thanks for that might try a different formula, it can't hurt. Charlie was the same as Logan, went from NB to 00 clothes overnight.

Jane, so sorry in my bemuddled brain I mixed up you personals with Mischiefs, I had meant your Belle. Thanks for checking the charts, I think she'll be standing at the back of the class for school photos:laughing:. I had a feeling she was quite tall/long cause when she was 2 months ppl thought she was a 4 month old.

Mum-in-Love great to see u back and wow sounds like your house was crazy, bet you're glad to have the house back to normal. We must both have tall bubs, and :thumbsup: u r getting smiles, they make the hard work worth it I reckon.

michblb

04-01-2008, 17:46

Doesn't mean she will stay tall hun. Sometimes babies or toddlers are quite tall but don't end up that way. I know my friends kids were born pretty long (59 & 60cm) and now one of them is really tall and the other is really short, lol.
Charlie's actual birth length is average so you may find it is just a spurt. Babies & kids both tend to go up, then out, then up, then out etc etc. Only time will tell if she will be tall or not :D

how weird about your friends kids, oh well will be interesting to see. MIL has said Charlie was longer than any of her other 4 grandchildren and they are average height so far, guess time will tell.

I just saw the funniest thing, my husband after a busy day at the office, trying to reason and negotiate with a screaming 3 month old to try a new bottle teat, gold! :laughing:

AnD05

04-01-2008, 19:11

*Warning* Pity post

My DS has turned into a :devil:. Yesterday and today he has just grizzled/screamed at everything, won't eat (and its really hot here), won't poo....nothing we do settles him, Im exhausted! Man this sucks, hope it doesn't last too long and I wish my mum was here to help :(

Thanks for listening :rolleyes:

A

michblb

04-01-2008, 19:14

Wow, lucky Afrika came out early then:laughing: Yeah to be honest I haven't worried too much about the charts either. I know that she is off the chart on weight but haven't been bothered about it. I was interested in her length cause someone else measured their bub so thought hhmmm yeah she is getting quite long...I'll get out the tape measure.

We need to replace the TommyTippee bottles we have as they only hold 150mls and are for birth to 3 months. DH bought TT bottles with a variable flow teat for about $3 - v long and thin but they are cr*p and she couldn't suck anything out of them - tried tonight.

With the avent I had to change back to the no 1 teat and wait a few weeks before she could handle the no 2. I still want to get the variable flow Avent but DH is against it cause of the cost but we need to make a decision soon.

Re testing for obesity I think it should be something done if the kid is overweight or having health issues, not done regularly. All kids get a bit podgy at some stage, as u say they grow up then out. Even though Charlie weighs alot she has narrow hips and body, like me but a rather large belly (Iguess to hold all that milk!)and podgy limbs.

michblb

04-01-2008, 19:21

Oh Anna, you poor thing, you need lots of these:hugs:, is Finlay hot maybe? I've been putting the fan on Charlie when it's warm and she can get a bit grizzly. Or do you think he's constipated? Maybe massaging his tummy could help unblock him? Hope he gets back to his old self soon.

mum_inlove

04-01-2008, 19:42

Hi ladies..

Just finished dinner, so it's my 'me' time. Olivia's in bed. I find it weird that during the day, sometimes she needs help to get to sleep, like dummy, patting, feed. However, for her bedtime, she'll finish feeding, I'll put her in the bassinet, she'll happily and quietly put herself to sleep with no help at all.

Mich- I have to agree with cassie on the height thing. When I was around 13 years old, I was the tallest between my peers, people kept telling me I would be a model when I grew up. I competed in heaps of modelling comp and won heaps. But then I stopped growing since then. And now I'm the shortest between all of my friends :laughing:, hopefully Olivia will be slightly taller than me, lol.

Oh have you tried the pigeon teat? I used them on my avent bottles, and found them great!

The weirdest thing happened this arvo. This young boy around 12 years of age whom cricket ball ended up in our yard and I helped him to get it back, left a note on our driveway asking me for sex!:eek: Sad isn't it?

Gtg, I'm gonna shave hubby's hair! Should be fun!:laughing:

Shakey

04-01-2008, 20:06

Afrika was 45cm over 3 weeks early, I would hate to think how long she would have been if she'd baked another 3/4 weeks

Alexis was 48cm long at just over 4wks early (going by second scan dates) babies dont' actually get longer in the last few weeks, they get fatter

We need to replace the TommyTippee bottles we have as they only hold 150mls and are for birth to 3 months. DH bought TT bottles with a variable flow teat for about $3 - v long and thin but they are cr*p and she couldn't suck anything out of them - tried tonight.

With the avent I had to change back to the no 1 teat and wait a few weeks before she could handle the no 2. I still want to get the variable flow Avent but DH is against it cause of the cost but we need to make a decision soon.

just a hint, most of the wide neck teats that you get will fit the avent bottles, i've got TT varible teats for Alexis, they fit great, and are heaps cheaper, the little wishes ones fit really well too, and are half the price of the avent, they do variable flow as well :yes:

Mich- I have to agree with cassie on the height thing. When I was around 13 years old, I was the tallest between my peers, people kept telling me I would be a model when I grew up. I competed in heaps of modelling comp and won heaps. But then I stopped growing since then. And now I'm the shortest between all of my friends :laughing:, hopefully Olivia will be slightly taller than me, lol.

The weirdest thing happened this arvo. This young boy around 12 years of age whom cricket ball ended up in our yard and I helped him to get it back, left a note on our driveway asking me for sex!:eek: Sad isn't it?

Same thing with me on the height, I was one of the tallest till third form, by the end of the year everyone was taller lol, i'm still shorter than most of my friends

and sad about that boy asking for sex, what a weird random thing the he did, makes you wonder what goes though kids heads these days

Shakey

04-01-2008, 20:09

just about forgot

Anna sorry to hear you've had a rough day, hopefully tomorrow will be better, will he take cooled boiled water when he doesn't feed? he might just be too hot and bothered to feed, is he breast or bottled fed??? (sorry can't remember)

AnD05

04-01-2008, 21:55

Thanks girls I needed those hugs!! He is finally asleep but not sure how long that will last! He only ate a tiny bit at 5:30pm so we shall see!

Oh Anna, you poor thing, you need lots of these:hugs:, is Finlay hot maybe? I've been putting the fan on Charlie when it's warm and she can get a bit grizzly. Or do you think he's constipated? Maybe massaging his tummy could help unblock him? Hope he gets back to his old self soon.

Not hot but yup think something to do with constipation. He screams in pain then lets out a few farts but no poos yet, this is his 3rd day and before that it was 3 days too. Tried massaging tummy a lot but to no avail! Thanks for the ideas though.

just about forgot

Anna sorry to hear you've had a rough day, hopefully tomorrow will be better, will he take cooled boiled water when he doesn't feed? he might just be too hot and bothered to feed, is he breast or bottled fed??? (sorry can't remember)

Breastfed. Dont think too hot is the reason and nope won't take cooled boiled water just screams after a few sucks.

Anna sounds like you need this :hugs:
Has he been through a growth spurt lately? I used to find after a spurt Logan would then not drink for a few days before going back to normal. How long has it been since he had a poo? It is normal for BF babies to go days without, but if you think he might be constipated maybe try some coloxyl or something. Yes the heat can make them go off food too, instead of wanting to drink more. They get heat stroke so easy, without even being in the sun, but I think you have said in a previous post you have airconditioning?
Wish I had more advice, hope it passes soon and things get back to normal.

3 days since last poo and previous to that it was 3 days too. Lots of farting just not pooing! Tried gripe water but didnt help either, I only gave it to him once though so maybe I need to give it to him more? Whats coloxyl? Sorry prob stupid question :confused:. Maybe the growth spurt makes sense though cause he did feed quite a bit a few days ago so this could be the aftermath. I figured besides the not pooing thing it was some 'stage' he is going through.Yup we have airconditioning so it never really gets hot in here.

Fingers crossed whatever it is it doesnt last for too long! I hope to escape tomoro to go bather shopping, which I hate doing but at least I get out of the house baby free!

Thanks again guys! You rock!

A

Shakey

04-01-2008, 22:12

Anna I wouldn't worry about the not pooing, Alexis will go up to 10 days without doing one, but in that time she does get a big figity and farts heaps,

hopefully the unsettledness is just a stage and will soon end :fingerscrossed:

well i've just baked a batch of cinimon muffins, can't wait till they are cooked, cause they smell so yummy :yes:

DH and I have decided we will shift, don't know how but we will, the rent is going up in this place and what they are wanting is so not what this house is worth, so we're outta here, just have to find a place now, and see if we can stay here a few mth after our rent is up, cause i'm headding to NZ for a holiday after our rent is up, so bad timing really

saremc

04-01-2008, 22:20

Hey Gals

Just a quick one for me DF put the camera cord some where so i will find it and come back on tomorrow and post a pic :laughing: about time!

mum_inlove

04-01-2008, 22:28

Anna- :hugs: to you. I hope things will go back to normal, too. I remember when ds was a newborn, he went through days without pooing. If you're worry that he's sick or something, you could always take him to the gp for a peace of mind. Even though gp now, most of them would say 'yeah they're fine' without even looking :hair: lol.

Cassie- talking about coloxyl, I remember when ds was a couple of weeks old, he had trouble with wind. Instead of giving him gripe water and something like that, we gave him coloxyl, the poor little fella, his little bottom was like having a lil party :laughing:

Yeah, it's a bit worrying about the young boy. We decided not gonna confront his parents at this stage, but we'll keep the note. Hopefully, it's just a one off thing. But I will be more careful from now on. It's weird now suddenly I just don't feel that safe anymore. I mean yes he's only a young boy, but we still don't know what a young boy capable to do. I also feel bad for his parents if I talk to them, and he can also deny it coz I didn't exactly see him dropping the note.

Oh I finished shaving dh's hair. When we got to the end, I was meant to do the edges, somehow I didn't even think what I was doing, I shave some of his hair really short. Dh refused to get the whole head shave to make it even, so he's now supporting this square bald patch on the back of his head. I feel so bad, and he gets really cranky coz whenever I see it, I crack up laughing!!:laughing:

BRBL

AnD05

05-01-2008, 11:02

Morning

Still no explosions here :no: from DS bottom end, just lots of wind still. Will see how he is today, seems better so far, has actually had a feed and is playing under his playgym - which is nice as for the last 2 days I havnt been able to leave him! :detective:

Had some decent sleep. After going to sleep at 8pm DS woke at 9:30pm screaming. I managed to get him to eat then he was straight back to sleep. He then woke at 2:45am, feed back to sleep. Then woke at 5:30am but DH actually got up and dealt with him which was a lovely change! I think I woke quickly again when he made a small noise then before I knew it it was 8:45am! So I feel much better! :thumbsup:

Well, better go shower and head off - bather shopping (YUK!) and I want to find something to occupy DS in the car...he seems to get very bored and tells us all about it!

BBL for personals, have a nice weekend everyone! :flowerz:

A

Shakey

05-01-2008, 21:27

Anna how did bather shopping go???? hope you found something, glad your day started out better with DS, hope it continues

well nothing much happening here, Alexis has been fussy as with feeding, and is sleeping lots, she's only put on 160grams this week, just about 12lb now, so getting there

laurannson

05-01-2008, 23:19

:wave:Hello-am back from a weeks holiday down south(near Margaret river!)and am just waiting up to give Samuel his dream feed,so thought I would catch up on whats been happening.......lots!!!!Won't even try with personals-just will start afresh!!!:laughing:
We had a great time away-2 other families came with us,so 10 kids in total.....phew!!!!!!:D
The kids have 150 acres to run around on though,so they weren't too under foot during the day,and they all slept very well at night!!!:yelclap:
Samuel was a gem-getting carted around the country side,in a very noisy house.........and he just cruised along all week!!!No routine at all and he slept and fed at some peculiar places(beaches,wineries etc)but he just smiled and giggled his way through the week-bless his cotton socks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:sunshine:
Am dreading the washing though-that will be my day tomorrow-I hate coming home!!!!!!!
Anyway hope everyone is having a good weekend-speak again soon!!!!
:hugs:

TeamAwesome

06-01-2008, 09:55

Hey girls,
just popping in to add a link for the Brisbane and surrounds meet thread. Let us know if you want to come and if you have any ideas on where to meet up!!

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=2189410#post2189410

BBL to try to catch up on all the posts!

Nat

zenifa

06-01-2008, 13:06

Hello ladies :wave:.......I'm back!! Anyone miss me?

We got home from our weeks holiday at Mooloolaba yesterday. The weather was :rain: but we still managed to have a nice time. We caught up with my friend from Maleny who has a 3 week old DD, had a daytrip at Montville, took the girls to Underwater world which DD1 especially liked and my parents came up for 2 nights to help us with the girls. Our appartment was fantastic with uninterrupted ocean views, spacious, modern, clean etc!! It was a bit monotonous with the weather and a challenge to keep DD1 occupied........we took her to the park whenever it wasn't raining or she would of go cabin fever :devil:
For New Years Eve, we had yummy local pizza and pasta, got the girls into bed early, and had some champagne and relaxed on our balcony (given all the planned celebrations were cancelled due to the weather). The Rose Moet was wonderful, it was given to me by friends visiting in the UK in May, and being pregnant I saved it for NYE (despite bf), so yes I was a little naughty!!

Not sure if I really relaxed (as I still had the two girls to look after), but I did manage to do some reading which was nice!! The girls didn't get too disrupted in their routines, and slept really well. DD2 is now 3 mths old, laughing/giggling lots and has been lots of fun!! She and DD1 had their first bath together and both enjoyed it - DD2 is now too big for the laundry tub!! DD2 is still feeding and sleeping well, once she's down at night 6-7pm, she is usually up around 5 or 6am!! While my parents stayed with us, DD2 got a bit overstimulated, didn't want to feed much before her sleep (had cluster fed most of the afternoon) and did get up around 3-4am for two nights for a bf, but thankfully that didn't last long.

The packing/unpacking to go away is the worst (took a portacot but no room for a pram, so I used the sling all week!), so exhausting!! We did our washing up there, so not much to do when we got home, just unpack, get food supplies and rest!! DH is back to work tomorrow and DD1 starts her 2 days/week at daycare this Thursday.

Was on here yesterday, catching up with posts, gosh 10 pages of this thread and 2 from the last!!
Won't be able to remember everything, so will start personals proper from now on.

Here are a few from what I remember

Nat - the pics of Lib, her cake and the present you made her were fab!!

Jo - loved your artwork, you are much more creative and talented than I!!

Cassie, Anna and Mich :hugs::hugs::hugs: to you all!! Sounds like your bubs have been giving you a rough time in the feeding/sleeping/settling department, hope it improves for you all!!

Sara - where is the pic of your ring, I am keen to see it!!

Mum-in-love - that was a freaky story and so disturbing too!!

Anyway, better go as I think a thunderstorm is coming and don't want my pc to crash!! Will be back tomorrow or earlier if I can (everyone is napping at the moment, I might go and join them) Bye!! Enjoy your weekend everyone!!

AnD05

06-01-2008, 14:57

:sunshine:Hi!

Yup Jo got some bathers! It wasnt as bad as I thought, although town was still crazy busy as we had a music festival down here yesterday called Southbound with heaps of bands. The bathers are the tankini ones cause Im not keen on showing off my stretch marks. They are a coral colour, Id rather them in black or something a little less bright but they didnt have any in the particular style I wanted. I have to get over the shoulder straps not haulter neck cause the pressure on my neck give me headaches! And they were a lot more expensive than I wanted to pay but hopefully they will last a while, they are Seafolly ones.

Zenifa - Glad you had a lovely time away, even if it wasnt terribly relaxing at least it was different from the everyday at home. Shame about the weather too. DD2 sounds like shes really thriving, you are so lucky to have such a good bubba :bee:.

Laurannson - Glad you had a lovely time down here :yes:. 10 kids crikey! Sorry I never got back to you about a catch up I, we ended up having visitors plus DS has been really unsettled for the past week and before I knew it you were gone and back! Hope you get all your washing done, at least in this heat they will dry pretty quickly.

Well, another horror arvo/night here yesterday. DS screamed for 5hrs till I finally got him to sleep at 9pm. He ended up doing a poo, sorry tmi, and he started off happier but refused to feed off me in the evening which had me in tears :crying:. He drank 160mls EBM in no time from the bottle though!! I had to escape the screaming so I left him with DH and had a shower. Then had the energy to put him to sleep.

Unfortunately I think I have my 1st AF :(. A week ago I thought it was starting with a tiny bit of bld but then nothing. But today its def coming. Makes sense really as Ive had a break out on my face, been REALLY emotional/stressed and have cramps this morning. I feel ripped off, DS is only 3mths! I also wonder if this has contributed to DS being so out of sorts, I've heard that babies can taste the hormonal change in BM and fuss about.

Well thats prob enough :ecomcity: from me for now. DS is due to wake soon for a feed, lets hope he's in a better mood than yesterday! At least he's back to feeding during the day, we just have a battle in the evenings now.

A

AnD05

06-01-2008, 15:28

Anna I have heard the same as you re hormonal changes causing fussy feeding, although I am not sure if it is true or not. It seems logical since eating certain foods can do the same thing.
A lot of women don't miss any periods so at least you got 3 months off! Hell I've only had about a week OFF bleeding since DD was born :banghead: You may find that they aren't a regular thing but maybe you will only get them every few months for a while.

Oh in that case Im lucky then :thumbsup:. Poor you, that must suck. And :fingerscrossed: they are only every few mnths!

zenifa

06-01-2008, 18:48

Anna :hugs: to you. Sorry to hear you had a shocker of arvo/evening yesterday.
:yelclap: to Finlay for finally doing a poo!!
Sorry to hear that AF has returned, but that could explain partly why he's been unsettled, hope it improves for you and evenings aren't a battleground for feed/sleep!!

Cassie - :hugs: to you too! Sorry to hear that you have been bleeding so much.
It makes me feel very lucky that my AF isn't back yet! Given I will not be TTC, I'm in no hurry to have AF, as I used to suffer from bad cramps. Having said that since Nov 2004, I've only had two periods and two bleeds post partum, so I can't complain, I know it has to return one day.

Can't remember who posted that their baby is rolling already ?? Was it Sams' mum?
We've had no rolling yet, but DD2 loves tummy time and holds herself up really well on her arms, and loves to sit (won't be long now before she can do it on her own, it amazes me how strong she is, her head/neck control is unreal!). She has this toy that is an inflatable tube with jingly balls in it(called a Safari Roller, Xmas present from the inlaws), and she loves to lie on it and roll, she is really starting to push off, I'm in no hurry for her to crawl yet!
I've read that babies can teeth since birth but most don't get them til between 5-7 mths. I was getting worried DD2 may be showing early signs of teething, as she had a grizzly period where her tongue kept rolling to one side of her mouth, as if it was annoying her, but thankfully its passed, I'm not ready for teeth yet either!!
Being my last baby, I just am trying to enjoy her at the stage she's at (not wishing it away), now at 3 mths she is so cute, with lots of character and is so calm, content and smiley :flowerz: I love it how she licks her lips before a bf, the drunken look when she's full and her laughs. She also gives the best kisses, when you kiss her cheek, she turns to kiss you (can't remember what that reflex is, rooting reflex?) :kiss:
Just thought I'd post some +ves, as its easy sometimes to focus on all the things babies aren't doing eg feeding, sleeping or settling well.
Have a great night everyone!!:sleeping:

michblb

06-01-2008, 19:01

Hi ladies

I did a long post last night but I think there were probs with the website cause when I posted it, it disappeared, so quick summary:

Charlie rolled too from her back to her tummy, yesterday morning:smiliedance:

Spent 3 hours yesterday at Randwick Children's Hosp as DH was playing with her and tried to make her stand by holding her hands, she screamed at the time, didn't think anything more of it, then I noticed her left shoulder looked a bit floppy. My gp said go to the hos9py and although it's not dislocated the dr thought she probably strained it. So we just have to keep an eye on it.

Two days without naps so absolutely stuffed, Charlie still unsettled most nights, but she's in her cot now because of the rolling so :fingerscrossed: that works better. Last night her nappy leaked p*ss all over our bed so done a heap of washing today.

Anyway dinner is ready, better go. Hope all mums and bubs are well. Sorry will get to personals next time.

ikran

06-01-2008, 23:42

Hello ladies!!

Happy New Year!
I am back finally!
Well, I haven't been on holiday but was sooo busy with kids! I really had no time of my own for a while:thumbsdown: I wonder how all the mum with multiple kids do it everyday!? It is really really hard looking after a baby and kids at the same time.

One of the stepkids went back to Melbourne a week ago, so now it's only 1 of them. But things don't really get easier as this stepson is soooo active and can be so much of the pain in backside!! I can't believe how he talks back to me or DH, it's a lot worse than the last time we had him here:hair: Basically our life style is totally different from kids' one so everything is a challenge. He doesn't like the food I cook so I have to stick to the kids friendly food / somali food. He doesn't want to do any chores. He make smartaxx comments whenever he sees I am not doing the right thing (religion wise). And, the usual 10 y.o things (or maybe its not usual...)like sneaking around and lick the entire contents of Nutella jar. He wants to play with PC all the time, so I cant open my laptop in front of him. He wants to watch the same DVD million times so I missed all my fav show. Wekk the list can go on and on. It's sooo stressful. To make the matter worse, Lii was not being his usual self either, always crying whenever I had to chase after the kids. It was all too much so I complained a bit to DH, then he took it the wrong way and yelled at me:banghead: I was almost ready to pack my bag and leave with Lii. I just don't know how their mum teach these kids, they definitely need to be discipilned IMO.

Yesterday, I really had it with the stepson, so I orderd him to get out of the house. I think he finally realised that he can't mess with me, so things are getting a bit better ( at least today was). Lii is also getting used to see his big brother around, althogh he still gets scared when the stepson try a bit too hard to play with him.

On the +ve side, Lii is 100 days old today!:yelclap:
Can't believe how fast it went. He is growing up so quickly. He started to roll a few days ago. It's nice to see him doing something new everyday, but at the same time a bit sad that he won't be a baby for a long time, iykwim.

Better get going to check on Lii now! will try to be back tomorrow if I can.

Oops I better change my sig, I turned 30 on the NYE.

Shakey

07-01-2008, 00:27

TeamAwesome

07-01-2008, 06:24

Hey girls,
I won't be on much the next few days as we're really focussing on toilet training Ty and Aden's gone back to work today.

re: fertility... I know a few girls who've become pregnant in the first 6months, Ty was 8mo when I discovered I was pregnant with Libby. And well now I'm having a bit of an I might be thought happening here this morning, Aden's coffee smell was making me feel slightly nauseous and we weren't very careful on Christmas Eve. Oh well guess we'll wait and see, it's a bit sooner then we'd like but it'll all work out.

Zenifa- sorry bout the weather up here, our yard was flooded and is now a bit of a muddy swamp from the yuck weather.

AnD-glad you got some bathers even if they aren't the colour you want, black can be a bit too boring and plain (take this from the woman who's only bought black after her last two, it is boring)

ooops Angelina's up for her morning feed so I better go

Have a good few days girls!

Natalie

AnD05

07-01-2008, 15:20

just a quick post from me, i'm about to express in a min

Ikran happybirthday to ya, how cool to have ya birthday on new years, bet you've had heaps of cool parties in the past, sorry to hear you've had a bit of a rought time with your step children, hopefully it will get better for ya, oh and yay for Lii rolling :smiliedance: what a cleaver wee boy

Zenifa your lucky to only have 2 af's since the end of 2004, I even bleed while preg

michblb yay for Charlie rolling as well, she's a tallented wee one, glad her arm is alright, poor wee lass

AnD05 glad ya got some bathers, I need to get some too, not that its been the weather for swimming anyways, bummer you think AF is arriving, i've been spotting on and off since Alexis was about 8wks old, I will get brown tinged mucus and cramping one day, then the next day nothing, its anoying really, :fingerscrossed: I don't actually get AF for at least another couple of mths, bummer DS was playing up again, I hope he can sort himself out for you soon

well nothing much happening here, DD's breathing alarm has been going off the last couple of nights, last night it went off twice, and tonight just once, it never goes off during the day, scares the **** outta me

Yup that is what I've been getting, tinged mucus on and off all wk, cramps yesterday and today nothing! :fingerscrossed: It doesnt eventuate for either of us! That sucks about the alarm going off. I replied in your other thread about ours, sorry no hints here.

Antlmummy - Good luck with toilet training Ty. Yup a bit of colour is nice, would of been nicer if maybe it was broken up by black of white instead of just the straight bold colour.

Ikran - happybirthday for New Years Eve! I know a few people who have the same birthday! Hope things are getting better with you stepson, def sounds like he is a handful! I can understand your vent to DH, I vent all the time and I've only got 1. Hope you get some 'me' time soon to recover.

Boy its hot here today. DS was HEAPS better yesterday and has been pretty good today too, phew! It's such a nice change! He did wake twice instead of once during the night, the 1am feed was easy, the 4:30am feed not so easy. He didnt want to go back to sleep, eventually he went off at about 5:15am and went through til 9am so the sleep in was lovely :sleeping:.

Sad news is DH's nan passed away last night. She was 94 and went peacefully at least. We will be making a trip to Perth for the funeral prob early next wk, not looking forward to it though. Its also hard because this Friday is the one year anniversay of Dh's mums passing. So its a sad wk all round.

On a happier note have a g/f coming over this arvo to see DS and have a catch up which should be nice.

Hope everyone has a lovely week,

A

zenifa

07-01-2008, 15:27

Hi everyone!! Hope you are all having a great day!!

Mich - congratulations on Charlotte rolling :yelclap:
Sorry to hear about her peeing on your bed and the floppy shoulder episode, hope you get some naps again soon!!

Cassie - oh yes, I do realise that regardless of bf or not, AF or not, yes you can still be fertile or infertile.
Won't bore you with the whole story, but my BIL was told by his ex gf that she couldn't get preg whilst bf (she had a bub from a previous relationship), well you guessed it, she conceived my niece (who is 10 next April), she had no AF and was bf and yes she got pregnant, much to my BIL's horror (he was 18 and quite naive at the time).
For me, I'm not worried about getting pregnant, as DH has had the snip (he will hopefully be given the all clear the day before Valentine, Feb 13th) and my libido still hasn't returned, so not much to worry about there!! With looking after two kids, its the last thing I feel like doing atm.

Aki Belated happybirthday for NYE!! Its great that Lii is rolling and sorry to hear you've had such a tough time with the stepkids visiting, hope it gets better and your stepson returns home soon. Sounds like its been pretty disruptive for all of you :hugs:

Jo - you poor thing, even bleeding through pregnancy!! Its been one of the bonuses of being pregnant and breastfeeding for the last three years (aside from the obvious), is no AF!!
Gosh it must be scary with DD's breathing alarm going off, hope all is well with your little princess :fingerscrossed:!!

Nat - good luck with toilet training Ty:fingerscrossed:, let us know how it goes and any tips for me are welcome!! DD1 isn't that interested, she has nappy free time, and when she needs to go will ask for a nappy. She will sit on the potty occasionally but won't do anything in it. I'm not pushing it atm as I don't have the energy or patience and I'm hoping that with her going to daycare twice per week, it might help and if she's a bit older it might happen quicker.
Hmmmm..........so you might be pregnant hey?? Let us know!! Gosh its the last thing I would want right now, I love my two girls and find that enough for me, its tiring enough!!

Got up this morning, DH went back to work, it was a bit hectic trying to get us all ready and out the door. The girls woke up at 7am (bliss!) but it meant a rush, as I was going to start my 'morning walk' routine with mum and dad and the girls (in the tandem stroller) and drop DH off at the busstop. It all went well, but was very hot and humid (maybe we should be walking in an airconditioned shopping centre??) but i was proud of myself for doing it, as I really need to get into shape, for fitness/health reasons and also to lose weight. Can you believe we don't have any icecream, chocolate, biscuits or any sweets or crisps in the house?? Yes I am trying to be good, we'll see how long it lasts!!
Went to visit a friend this morning who has moved into a new house locally, after my walk, and took the girls. They both were really good, but my friend didn't have aircon, so we all got a bit hot and bothered, a fan is just not enough!!
We've come home, had lunch and the girls are still napping........DD2 has been bf for an hour (both sides), she's getting very thirsty in this hot weather, so it took longer to get her down.
Off now for a rest myself!! Bye

zenifa

07-01-2008, 15:30

Anna - sorry to hear about the passing of your DH's nan and also the upcoming anniversary of your mother in law's death. :hugs: to you, thinking of you and your DH at this tough time!!
Hope your DS is better for you, sounds like things are improving and enjoy your visit with your friend today!

Shakey

07-01-2008, 16:14

Anna sorry to hear about your DH's nan, and sorry to hear about your DH's mum 1 year anniversary comming up, how horrible to loose a mum so young,

sounds like we're getting the same thing about the bleeding and stuff, I just wish it would sort itself out, just every now and then out of the blue i'll get the brown ****, I think it it must have something to do with the way DD is feeding at the time, cause some days she feeds really well, yet when i'm cramping or getting th spotting she doesn't seam to feed very well at all, I never had this with DH, he was a piggy and had no probs feeding him, so I never got anything bleeding or spotting wise till a month after I stoped breast feeding him, anyways glad your DS is being nicer to his mum today

zenifa now if only every pregnancy and breastfeeding ment no bleeding, oh well, spose I can't complain, even when preg with Alexis I was bleeding lots, but it was still a better pregnancy than some of my others (apart from DS's that pregnancy went reasonably well) so I can't really complain

oh and your good going for a walk today, we all slept in this morning, Alexis woke up just before 10am and DS woke about 10am, so was a mad rush getting DD fed and DS to preschool, he didn't end up getting there till 11 cause we have to walk, wasn't too bad though

Shakey

07-01-2008, 18:02

Jo I was just thinking about how much you said Alexis weighed the other day... she is gaining some great weight! I was comparing her to Afrika, who was born earlier, less premature, and she hasn't even made 5kg yet! You must have some special milk there, lol. What size clothing is sheinto now?

yeah Alexis was born 35wks 6 days going by the second scan dates, which the hosp were going by, she has been gaining some good weight, not as good as DS did though, she's a fussy feeder compared to him, she's been averaging about 180grams a week, whereas DS was averaging 300grams a week, she's doing well though, she's in 000 clothes now but soon will be in 00 cause there are a few of her clothes that are getting a bit tight around her arms/head and waist, she's finally got rolls lol, i'm sure Afrika will get there,

everyones babies sound so much more advanced compared to Alexis, she's just over 15wks old now, holds her head up super well, but there isn't any rolling, or any sign of rolling, yet when she was 8wks old she would just about roll over, so dont' know what happend there

Grizabella

07-01-2008, 18:11

hey guys -

Been a sad week for me :( My Grandad died on Friday. He had cancer, and unfortunately I wasn't able to go see him before he passed. I feel very guilty about that - despite the fact I haven't seen him for 15yrs I should have gone to visit him. I just felt hypocritical you know? Kinda like - haven't seen you for yrs but heard you were dying - thought I'd drop in and say Hi. Anyway we thought he had a bit longer to go but he didn't and so he passed away before I got the balls to go. Feel like scum.Am going to write a letter to him and either read it on Fri at his funeral or just pop it in his grave. Not sure which yet.

Am getting my tattoos of the boys names on Thurs, might see if I can organsise a time to get a memorial tatt done for Grandad.

Toran is well - so is Brion, nothing new to rep[ort there. So nothing much else really to post.

Shakey

07-01-2008, 18:15

aww Jude how awfull, sorry you didn't manage to say good bye to him, I know where your comming from about not seeing him cause you were only seeing him cause you heard her was dying, I probably would've done the same, writting a letter is a good idea

hope the rest of the week is better for ya

Shakey

07-01-2008, 18:16

Wow thats amazing, 300g a week :eek: They aim for 150g a week for good weight gain LOL.
I think Afrika might take a while, she is the same weight she was over a month ago, but I'm not fussed about it as long as she isn't shrinking lol.

you never know, one day she might just gain a ****e load of weight all of a sudden, and your right as long as she's not shrinking thats the main thing,

zenifa

07-01-2008, 19:47

:hugs: Jude, sorry to hear that your grandad passed away and that you didn't get a chance to say goodbye to him. The letter idea is a good one, it will hopefully help to alleviat some of the guilt you are feeling. :hugs: Take care
Goodluck with your tats, you are a braver woman than I. I hate needles!! Ouchy!

Cassie - yes I think that X is also teething at times, it comes and goes, but def no sign of teeth yet.

Jo, X is now 14 weeks and def isn't rolling yet. She is pretty strong and chubby (had her weighed before Xmas and she was 6.5kg), so it might be hard to get herself over.

SJE

07-01-2008, 20:45

HI Everyone

Catalyst - So sorry to hear about your Grandad.
That happened to me too. My Grandpa went into a Coma and died before I could get onto a plane to see him that one last time. The memories of the time we did have together makes things a little better.
Can only learn from it from situations like these. No sense beating yourself up over something you cant change.
I'm sure he knows you cared for him.

Did anyone find that the rotavirus vaccine gave their bubs the runs for a while?

DD2 is doing nasty ones 3x a day atm.

Rolling etc. : Dont hurry on all that I reckon. The sooner they roll, crawl, walk etc the sooner there is another toddler to get into everything :hair:
Babies grow up too quickly, though great to see bubs achieving her milstones - we're in no hurry here. :chillpill:

mischief79

07-01-2008, 21:25

Wow, miss a few days and it's so hard to catch up!! I've read everything, but I might do personals next time..... too much to type otherwise!

Well, spent yesterday down at my parents house. My grandma came over from Melbourne to meet Katelyn, and the day she was supposed to go home, ended up in hospital!! I didn't know that she had a pacemaker (some secret supposedly) and she had a bit of a turn, it wasn't working properley. So she's still at my parents, and took Katelyn down again to be spolit wit cuddles some more. But of course didn't get home until late (they live an hour away) and she was a bit overtired. Good girl today though. Woke at 6am, slept 7am-11am and then 2.30-5.30pm. Went down easily at 9pm. But it's a big night tonight!! She;s in her cot for the first time, in the nursery. Up until now she's been in her bassinet in our room. She went to sleep okay, I think it will be me with the problems. Although, DH just came in adn said that she looks so little in her big cot, and he wants her back in with us. We'll see.....

He jumped on the scales with her tonight cos I haven't had her weighed in weeks. Looks like only 6kg? She was 4.6kg at birth, and is over 12 weeks now. She seems to be getting bigger, and shes definately outgrown her clothes. She feeds well too. I think I'll take her for a checkup with CYH next week just to make sure. I'm not too worried, she looks really healthy, but it will be nice to be sure!

:sleeping:

dansta10000

07-01-2008, 22:44

Hi

Its been sooooo long since i last posted but i thought id pop in and say hi to you all. I always pop in and see whats being discussed but never actually get a chance to chat but as i have realised with having a baby you need to make the time, so im back and it may not be everyday but ill try to pop in and say hi.

Hope all the bubs are well and mummies still have their hair in. LOL :raspberry:

Miss you guys

Luv Dansta

TeamAwesome

08-01-2008, 07:52

Hi Ladies,

Angelina is still asleep after some super power feeds last night when she finally went to sleep at 9pm and yes it's 8am here!!:sleeping: I wish I had slept well but I think I got maybe 3 hrs broken sleep. totally sucks but not much I can do about that! If I am pregnant we've decided to try to keep it to ourselves for a bit... wouldn't want to steal the drama queen SIL's (who's pregnant) thunder. however I think it'd probably be pretty obvious by May so would obviously tell before then. Any one would think the way SIL (and MIL) is carrying on she was the first woman ever to be pregnant. :laughing: I keep being told by MIL how surprised she is about not being able to eat certain things in pregnancy... Apparently I was just being difficult in my three pregnancies by avoiding certain foods:rolleyes:... We however had to make sure we supplied suitable foods she could eat on Christmas day where I as just always be "picky" with what I ate without being over the top about it.

Zenifa - good on you for going for walks with the girls! it's a bit too hard with my three (I can't steer our tandem and hold Ty's hand or have him helping) so I've got some Pilates dvds coming and Aden's going to do them with me at night :D He wants better Abs and I want my tummy, thighs and bottom back to how they used to be.
Had to laugh at what your DD1 is doing cos that's what Libby is doing. She'll come up and excitedly yell "toi-et... duddy sit" translated that's toilet and ducky seat then tell me "wee wee toi-et" so off we go, can have her sit there for 30mins (of her own free will) and she'll not do anything and the couple of times she's accidentally done something she's freaked out, lol. I'm really hoping Libby does what Ty did at 24months and just "click" one day.. makes it so much easier!! However we moved 4 weeks later so the "clicking" didn't stick! TTing child led works so much easier especially when you'v got such a stubborn strong willed child like I do (he's a really lovely boy has such a soft heart as well but he's stubborn and strong willed at the same time)

Anna and Jude - sorry to hear of your losses. Even if you know they're coming or could be coming it's still hard. Hugs to you both!

Dansta -nice of you to drop by, lol. (I hope my SIL realises that quickly that having a baby is time consuming. apparently all I do is sit at home all day doing nothing and I have 3 kids:laughing:)

well I think Angie is finally awake so I better go feed her before she gets too upset.

Have a good day girls!

Natalie

zenifa

08-01-2008, 15:00

Did anyone find that the rotavirus vaccine gave their bubs the runs for a while?

DD2 is doing nasty ones 3x a day atm.

Rolling etc. : Dont hurry on all that I reckon. The sooner they roll, crawl, walk etc the sooner there is another toddler to get into everything
Babies grow up too quickly, though great to see bubs achieving her milstones - we're in no hurry here.

Just prior to DD2 having her vax, she hadn't done a poo in 4 days, so I was hoping that she would do one, and of course it was a bit runny, so I don't know if it was caused by the vax or just from not having done one for a while, sorry that is probably not much help to you, but I was warned that runny poos were a possible side effect of the rotavirus vax.

I agree with you, I want DD2 to stay a baby as long as possible. I also am in no hurry for rolling, I like it when I put DD2 down, she is still there 5 mins later!!I agree bubs do grow up too quickly!!

Hi

Its been sooooo long since i last posted but i thought id pop in and say hi to you all. I always pop in and see whats being discussed but never actually get a chance to chat but as i have realised with having a baby you need to make the time, so im back and it may not be everyday but ill try to pop in and say hi.

Hope all the bubs are well and mummies still have their hair in. LOL

Miss you guys

Luv Dansta

Hi Dansta!! :wave: We have missed you, welcome back and hope to hear more from you again soon!!

Hi Ladies,

Angelina is still asleep after some super power feeds last night when she finally went to sleep at 9pm and yes it's 8am here!!:sleeping: I wish I had slept well but I think I got maybe 3 hrs broken sleep. totally sucks but not much I can do about that! If I am pregnant we've decided to try to keep it to ourselves for a bit... wouldn't want to steal the drama queen SIL's (who's pregnant) thunder. however I think it'd probably be pretty obvious by May so would obviously tell before then. Any one would think the way SIL (and MIL) is carrying on she was the first woman ever to be pregnant. I keep being told by MIL how surprised she is about not being able to eat certain things in pregnancy... Apparently I was just being difficult in my three pregnancies by avoiding certain foods... We however had to make sure we supplied suitable foods she could eat on Christmas day where I as just always be "picky" with what I ate without being over the top about it.

Zenifa - good on you for going for walks with the girls! it's a bit too hard with my three (I can't steer our tandem and hold Ty's hand or have him helping) so I've got some Pilates dvds coming and Aden's going to do them with me at night He wants better Abs and I want my tummy, thighs and bottom back to how they used to be.
Had to laugh at what your DD1 is doing cos that's what Libby is doing. She'll come up and excitedly yell "toi-et... duddy sit" translated that's toilet and ducky seat then tell me "wee wee toi-et" so off we go, can have her sit there for 30mins (of her own free will) and she'll not do anything and the couple of times she's accidentally done something she's freaked out, lol. I'm really hoping Libby does what Ty did at 24months and just "click" one day.. makes it so much easier!! However we moved 4 weeks later so the "clicking" didn't stick! TTing child led works so much easier especially when you'v got such a stubborn strong willed child like I do (he's a really lovely boy has such a soft heart as well but he's stubborn and strong willed at the same time)

Anna and Jude - sorry to hear of your losses. Even if you know they're coming or could be coming it's still hard. Hugs to you both!

Dansta -nice of you to drop by, lol. (I hope my SIL realises that quickly that having a baby is time consuming. apparently all I do is sit at home all day doing nothing and I have 3 kids)

well I think Angie is finally awake so I better go feed her before she gets too upset.

Have a good day girls!

Natalie

Yes, sounds like your Libby and my DD1 are at a similar stage re:TT. We have lots of nappy free time here but she's too strong willed and stubborn to use the toilet or potty, just cries for a nappy!! Sigh, we'll get there one day, I'm just letting her take the lead, I don't have the time or energy and don't want to battle my 2yo!!
Good on your for organising the Pilates Dvd, maybe I should try something like that or go swimming, do aqua aerobics or the gym, motivation is hard for me, even more so now with 2 small kids!! Plus there is the cost, the heat, organising childcare, honestly, it just makes me want to reach for the chocolate :laughing:

Had a pretty quiet day, but was lucky to have a nap cosleeping with DD2:sleeping: Better dash as DD1 is awake and I've neglected all the housework so far today!! Will try to BBL!!

TeamAwesome

08-01-2008, 15:33

ugh this heat is horrible:sunshine: I can't wait until the ground dries up so it's not so swelteringly hot!

Kids are going well. Ty's had a few accidents, too caught up in playing. Angie is in front of the fan right now as it's just to hot not to have her that way!

Zenifa- lol, I'm not that good, we're just getting it as a hire dvd through quickflix to see if we can do it together, the costs of gyms/pools/classes plus additional time away from each other just wasn't going to work for ur. BUT I so know what you mean... It's so hot, I'm not sleeping so I was drinking WAY too much coke, and having lots of other naughty things... need to go buy my BIL a present later so I might be naughty and get something then as well as getting mmore butter. hmmm.

I think re:TTing the 2yo it's just not a fight I want right now lol. I too have no energy for it, just have to push Ty as he really needs to be as he's off to prep next year :eek: and we're wanting to get him into care a couple of days a week this year so he's prepared for it a bit, he's so not one of those kids who'll sit quietly and listen to instructions... much too distracted playing! lol

A good friend assures me little girls are SO much easier to TT then boys so :fingerscrossed: it'll be easy for us when the time comes.

well better go get the butter and present (and anything else which taks my fancy along the way:shame:)

Hope you're all having a good day girls!

Natalie

mischief79

08-01-2008, 21:19

Dansta - Hi!! It's hard to keep up sometimes with all the chatter that goes on in here! I'm lucky if I can do two days in a row.

Natalie - your SIL sounds a bit like i was when I was pregnant..... (I realise now how bad I was, pity I didn't realise at the time!). It was like no-one else in the world had ever had a baby, it was all about me. Hopefully, next time it won't be the same.

Zenifa- housework can always wait! DH has been on holidays since just before Christmas and I haven't done ANYTHING. No vaccuuming, floors, dusting.... nothing. I think this is my mini holiday as well. But the plan for tomorrow is..... HOSEWORK

DH and I had another counselling session today. This was our second one and it seems to be working well for us. He opens up a lot there, and I'm finding out a lot that I didnt know. He's not a good communicator, and he recognises that now. I wanted to give the counsellor a list of our current problems to work through, but he says that he will give us the tools to fix things as they happen, instead of a quick fix. "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime" or something like that. I can see a light at the end of the tunnel, which is great. But it's early days yet.
Had lunch with my best friend and her husband today which was nice. We don't catch up as much as we used to. Her DD is 11 months and its so cute seeing her "talking" to Katelyn. Can't wait until she can "talk" back. Oh wait, yes I can.... I don't want her growing up yet. I'm enjoying this baby stage! I want her to stay little forever!!!!

mischief79

08-01-2008, 22:03

Jo - just saw your thread about the Angelcare Movement Monitor. At the moment we are only using the sound part, because she has been sleeping in our room and I could hear her breathing all night. But now that she's in her own cot in her own room, I'm going to start using the movement part. I hope all goes well. Not sure what I'll do if the alarm goes off....

laurannson

08-01-2008, 22:46

Hi all-will try and do some personals tonight!!!

AnD05-sorry to hear about DH's nan-sending big:hugs: your way.

Jude-sorry to hear about your grandad-sending you lots of :hugs:as well.

Mischief79-glad the counselling sessions are going well-hats off to you for organising it!I agree about not wanting these little ones to grow up too quickly-I love this age(except for the sleep deprivation!!!!!!!!!!!)

Seejayelle-Samuel didn't get the runs post vaccine,but by memory I think it can be a side effect-if you get worried maybe ring the CHN or the Drs if that is where you got it done-hope it clears up soon!!!!!My DD2 has recently had gastro-so I can relate to the "nasty ones"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:barf:
Antlmummy-wow that could be some very exciting news-sounds great to me-you can join my crazy group with 4 kids!!!!!!No truly I love it-life is crazy.....but a good crazy-does that make sense!!!!!DH and I often laugh that we ended up with 4 kids,as it was never part of the "grand plan!!",but I wouldn't have it any way!!!DH works in his family business and tells everyone that he is breeding his own staff,as good hard workers are hard to find nowadays!!!!!Poor kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laughing:

Zenifa-good on you for going for a walk this morning-I am just embarking on a big weight loss mission- have 20kg to lose,which has somehow crept on slowly over 6 years and 4 pregnancies!!!!So my house sounds like yours at the moment too-not a "bad" food in sight!!:crying:
Samuel is definitely not rolling over yet-probably more due to his big chubby cheeks getting in the road!!!!!!!!!:DWe have also moved him into his own room on the weekend,and although he still feeds once overnight(and I stay up to feed him at 10pm)so far so good-I miss him already!!!!!
Anyway had better go and feed the young man-sweet dreams to all!

TeamAwesome

09-01-2008, 08:13

Morning girls,
well no more nausea (but then Aden hasn't been drinking coffee the last two morning) I'm thinking I was just really over tired (you know when you're so tired you feel sick?I'm one of those people) if I am it's no biggie though.

Angelina is no where near rolling but she has such good neck/head control and being my third I know she'll do it in her own time, she gets plenty of tummy time as she sleeps on her tummy and we have things around her cot for her to look at when she wakes up (nothing dangerous of course) so long as she's not absolutely starving she'll have a chat to Pooh, Tigger and Piglet on the pram tie which I've tied to her cot rail.

I've decided once we're back on our feet a bit I'm going to start organising some personalised stuff for Santa to bring this Christmas so Ty's all ready for going into Prep next year! ( where did that time go?) So many cute things! And with the fairies movie due to come out end of the year I'm going to stock up on Fairies things for Libby too!

Laurannson- well four has always been part of our grand plan (I was joking a while back that we'd go for #4 and could get a bonus one but I stopped joking when I realised he was considering stopping at 3.) I was hoping for a bit more of a gap but if I am, it's obviously meant to be that way. Love your DH's joke about breeding his own staff! Our cousins say "we're aiming for a football team" (seeing as the Q's about how many started while she was pregnant with #1) when asked "how many would that be" they reply "which football code has more on a team?" We laugh cos they have tiny 2brm miners cottage so not much room to fit in a big family.

Belinda- sounds like you've got a fantastic counsellor there!! So glad your DH is going and opening up, I hope everything gets sorted out and it's so true about teaching a man to fish!
Oh and my SIL makes everything about HER, has done ever sine DH and I started going out! Our engagement party was just 10 days after she got engaged and she sat in the corner with her DF and made a big deal about not participating, then we got married first and there's a picture of her looking very cross while watching (we obviously didn't get that one from the photographer) with our #1 she brought heaps of her friends down to our room where he was sleeping (we lived downstairs from PIL's) didn't even check as she wanted to show off... fair enough she was excited to be an aunty but seriously asking if it was suitable as I was actually asleep until I'd heard them all upstairs so wasn't a good time. SIL and BIL turned up at the hospital just after I'd had our 2nd (after we'd requested no visitors til the next day) as it was the only time which suited HER and then proceeded to tell us how busy SHE was and how tired SHE was. She DIDN'T come and see Angelina for a few weeks as she was ticked off at how she found out, she thinks she found out last (it's something which didn't even have anything to do with us and was beyond our control with the way bub was born)Yet she had told some of her friends she was pregnant before at least a week before us. Anyway you get the idea but SIL is in for such a wake up call when she has her first baby! (I am of course just sitting back and watching the show!) So long as the kids don't see a change in the grandparents attention then I'm fine, if there is a difference then I'll be spitting the dummy (seeing as there's a difference in attention to the pregnancies by MIL)

just realised our playgroup may be cancelled as it's raining yet again so I better go check and get ready for that!

Have a good day girls

Natalie

saremc

09-01-2008, 12:15

Heya

Im finally back, a friend and her 13 month son came to say with us. Talk about hands full omg i take my hat off to all of you who have more than one :yelclap:i dont know how you do it!

I got the photo of my ring but cannot remember how to post it lol can anyone help my brain it shot sooooo tired!

Bella is ok she has got some bad wind and im suspecting that she has a bit of reflux. She is also refusing to go to sleep :hair: she cannot be hungry and she looks so tired she just refuses to! I got her wighed she has put on 40g in two weeks im not sure why it is so low she feeds like a trooper.

GTG she is grizzling again im going to go nutters if she keeps this up!

BBL

zenifa

09-01-2008, 13:50

Hi everyone, hope you and your bubs are all doing well.
Just a quick short one from me.
Not quite sure why but I am feeling down, and have been for the last few days. It could be post-holiday blues, hormones, tiredness, or just a general dip in mood, but I am seriously lacking motivation and interest in most things :( It had been a stressful day with the parents the last few days (big storm on Sunday, resulted in their landline being out of action, dramas with Telstra, hopefully it will be fixed tomorrow, frustrations with the settlement of an investment property they just sold etc), and I had a terrible dream that my dad died last night :gloomy: and I woke up at 5am!! Somehow I managed to get back to sleep til DD2 woke me at 6am.

To get my mind off things, took the girls to a friends for a playdate which was good, now home again and feeling low. Might try for a rest and nap as both girls are asleep.

Sorry for no personals and my whinge, there really isn't anything wrong, I just feel down thats all. Will have some extra cuddles with the girls when they wake up as that should cheer me up a bit.

erinp

09-01-2008, 14:13

Hi girls :wave: Just wanted to pop in and say hi. I have been doing a catch up and have been on the computer for ages now so sorry for no personals but rest assured I am thinking of you all who are having bad days/tiredness/sick/grizzly bubs/saying goodbye to loved ones. Sorry to hear so many of you are having a hard time. But also nice to read about the things mums enjoy.

I am really enjoying my bub at this age. She is really interested (perhaps even a bit nosy, like her mum...:p) in everything that's going on. She's smiling, and laughing, and getting stronger every day. She isn't rolling yet, but goes onto her sides from both her back and tummy. I am torn; I can't wait for her to do things, but at the same time I don't want her to grow up cause it all goes too too fast!! She is a great sleeper, and a great feeder, BF is the best - while DH has been on holidays (tomorrow he goes back to work :( - we will definitely miss him; it's been great having him home and we got to go away to the beach too!) if she wakes early I just pull her into bed with us, feed her, and we all go back to sleep if we want. Haven't had her weighed but guessing she's around 6.5kg (by jumping on the scales with her). I don't care so much about how much she weighs though, I know she's healthy and growing. She's found her hands lately and can't keep them out of her mouth!! She can suck on her fingers so loud it will actually wake DH or I up! He laughs that he has to turn the tv up to hear it over her sucking :laughing:

Anyway that's probably enough from me; I feel a bit like an intruder when I do come in here cause I do it so infrequently now! But do know I am thinking of you all and love it when I get to do a big catch up on everyone!!!

SJE

09-01-2008, 14:19

Zenifa - We all seem to have those down in the dumps days. Maybe you just need to give yourself a special treat? A day spa, a massage or something may help?
Keep chatting to us wont you. It may help to get things off your chest too?

Saremc - Those of us with more than one do it with horse tranquilisers and vodka:D
It must be confusing as to exactly where Bella is putting all this milk. She must be burning up the calories some how?

Antlmummy - Sounds like your SIL needs a few firm words. Perhaps your DH would be good to talk to her. Then he gets to be the bad guy. It would be harder for her to say nasty things about her own brother as well?

Mischief79 - Its great you and DH are getting some help. It shows you two really love each other and are committed to the relationship. Your bubs will certainly appreciate it as she grows up. It sets a good example to her:thumbsup:

DD2's poos resemble pond scum. :barf:She did some in the middle of the night so I had to get up and change her. THank goodness she went straight back down to sleep. If they continue on Friday, I will contact the vaccine place. Perhaps a bottle of formula would help to calm it down:detective:

Our potrait place voucher expires soon so we are getting some photos done of the kids on Fri. I might need something to get through it all Hopefully they both behave themselves.

For those of you who are milk makers.
Do you think the hormones involved in milk making and not cycling contributes to stubborn weight?
I have cut out all the lovely food and increased my exercise and there hasnt been any real results. A thought came to mind that the hormones actually make fat stay on???

laurannson

09-01-2008, 14:24

Hi all-wow 2 days in a row for me-I am very pleased with myself!!!

Zenifa-sorry to hear you are feeling a bit down-:hugs: to you.I reckon it is the lack of yummy food........this dieting sucks!!!!:p
Maybe you need some timeout-parenting is the hardest job out there-and definitely the worst paying!!!!My other tip is a big glass of wine......but it is maybe a bit early in the day for that......roll on 5pm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to hear about your dream as well-I hate having dreams like that-they are really unsettling aren't they-hope your day has gotten better.

Saremc-hope Bella is feeling better,and settled down for you-sending big :hugs: your way as well.I find if the kids are starting to drive me bonkers-I go for a walk,as the 4 walls sometimes feel like they are closing down around me,and often this will stop the grizzling, :fingerscrossed: that is has improved!

Antlmummy-love the bit about which code of football-will tell DH that tonight!!!!!!Samuel was a surprise bub for us-but we now see that we were always meant to have 4,as he completes our family beautifully,and we are really proud to say we have 4 kids...........broke but proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well Samuel slept from 1030pm to 5am this morning,and when I first heard him I was all confused as I couldn't remember if I had fed him at 3am or not(his usual waking time!!).So once I realised that I hadn't I got up and fed him,and then he went back to sleep till 8am-what a champ!!!!!!
We are having a day at home today,and I am attempting to clean out the kids toy drawers.......hence I am on the computer,as I am bored of that already-have just made a bigger mess!!!!!
Anyway Samuel is starting to wake for his next feed-hope everyone is well-BBL!
Cheers!

zenifa

09-01-2008, 15:05

Thanks for the hugs and wellwishes!!

Its quite pathetic really, as there isn't any reason to feel this way, the girls have been good, all is fab with DH, the stuff with my parents is sorted and life is generally going well, so there is no reason to feel down, but I do.

Erin - glad to hear that all is going well with you and DD!!

SeeJayElle- I bf DD1 for nearly 20mths and found it no help at all with losing weight!! In that time I only had AF twice, then got preg with DD2. I have heard that for some women bf helped them drop off the baby weight, but so far it hasn't happened to me (yet, yes I am hopeful!). I don't know if hormones make the weight stay on, but women who taken hormonal contraception tend to have weight gain, so you could be right, it could be linked.
Good luck with your photo session, hope you have better luck than we did just before Xmas - great shots of DD2, but DD1 would not cooperate (& we had two photo sessions too!).
Not sure what to say about DD2's poos, but I would recommend seeing a GP or CHN if you are still worried. My DD has the bf mustard/pumpkin soup type poos, but at least they don't smell!!
Would love to have a treat, but now my mat leave has ended, $$ is going to be tight. I've got some treats coming up next month but may see about having a massage!!

Sue - great work Samuel on that long sleep!!
I am having some 'time out' from parenting DD1 tomorrow as she starts daycare, but I will still have DD2 with me. Mum is coming along tomorrow, as I have a hair appt, maybe that will cheer me up!!
Maybe it is a sugar withdrawal, its criminal not having chocolate in the house!! :laughing: Still feeling down but haven't lost my sense of humour. Maybe exercise will help with my mood........ah i need to get motivated 1st.

Anyway, time to start some household chores before my girls wake up.

sam's mum

09-01-2008, 15:14

hi all

sorry to those that have had a loss. It is never easy, regardless of the circumstances.

I have been off dairy for the last couple of days. Belle had been doing huge spews her second feed of the day and varying spews at other times and I wondered if it was related to the milk/dairy I was consuming. I have cut out dairy and she has cut out the big spews. She still has a little one every now and then, but it doesn't seem to bother her. It was easier to give up smoking than give up dairy :hair: , every time I open the fridge, the cheese mocks me, I can taste a nice, big, cold glass of milk... nearly.... oh well, it is for a good cause. I will have to remember to ask the child health nurse about it, I am hoping that it is just an intolerance that she will grow out of pretty quickly. :fingerscrossed:

DS has got tonsilitis again, I swear that I could have cooked an egg on his tummy the other night. Yesterday he had a 4.5 hr nap and still slept all night, hopefully he is getting better because he is less hot and clingy today. I am just glad that he likes to take medicine.

Belle is so good about putting herself to sleep (I can't believe I tempted fate by writing that) but her feed patterns are getting odd. She is stretching some to four hours, but shortening others to two hours, oh well, as long as she sleeps, I don't really care.

Does anyone have a spare pixi photo voucher from the bounty bag, ours is gone (who knows where) and I want to get a photo done soon.

mischief79

09-01-2008, 21:11

Natalie - I take it back, I wasn't anything like your SIL!! As you say, hope things don't change with the grandparents. If they don't, you can sit back and smile when she's up at all hours of the night

Saremc - I'm looking forward to seeing your ring! Sometimes I wish DH and I were still engaged so I could plan a wedding. We got married in the Cook Islands, so there wasn't a whole lot to do except hop on a plane. Have you set a date yet?

Zenifa - sorry to hear that you're feeling down. If you really can't think of a reason for it, maybe see your doctor. Do you think it might be a touch of PND? Sorry to bring it up, but people who haven't suffered PND or depression before may not think of that as a reason. Anyhow..... sending you lots of happy thoughts! :)

Erin - wow, sounds like you're having a fantastic time at the moment. Touch wood.... things continue for you. That's great!

SJE - I'm not sure about the hormones and weight loss, but I seem to have hit the wall. I lost 10kg before I left hospital and now the total is 25kg lost. I haven't done any exercise apart from a few walks but I'm trying to eat healthier. I thought the weight would fall off while BF, but no such luck

Laurannson - thats great that Samuel is adding a few extra hours onto his night sleeps. Hope that becomes routine!

Jane - we are having the same with the feeding patterns. Some are almost 5 hours apart, and then some are only barely 2 hours. I can't get her to feed when she "should", eg 3 hourly during the day. Oh well, same as you, as long as she keeps sleeping through the night, I'll feed her when she wants it

Another hot day in Adelaide today, so not much activity. I seem to have hit a brick wall when it comes to getting anything done at the moment. All I want to do is sleep, and that's what I'm doing! Maybe it's because DH is on holidays (goes back tomorrow) and I know I can get that extra nap in. Also, I think I need some earlier nights (why am I on the computer at 10pm!!). Although, today I did manage to spray weedkiller on half the back yard. Some pesky little weeds with massive roots that spread like nothing else are coming up, so I wanted to kill them off quick.
Food shopping this afternoon, and then tears and tantrums from Katelyn. She hasn't had a witching hour in quite a while, but I think she made up for them all tonight! She's only just gone down to sleep..... in her big girl cot. Still can't get used to her being in her own room.

I have a question...... Katelyn is 3 months on Saturday, and DH and I have "done it" only once since she was born. Granted, we've had our problems to deal with, (counsellor etc) but only once is ridiculous! Neither of us wanted to when I was pregnant (we both could feel Katelyn moving which freaked us out) but now it might be a problem getting back on track. Not sure I remember how!! How long did it take you to get back in the sack?!?!
(sorry if too personal.....)

Mammy

09-01-2008, 22:36

Hi all!!

Once again its going to take me a few days to catch up on all the posts as its been over a week since i last logged on so forgive me...

Sophie is still being a handful, waking 12, 3 and 5 overnight. Thats an improvement from every 2 hours but its still not great eh?

Im exhausted and dont think ill ever be the person i once was... Even when shes sleeping i find it very hard to switch off and relax and have nightmares about her safety nearly every night, i think im driving my hubby crazy... I have this reoccuring dream/nightmare that shes in the bed with us and i or DH roll on her or loose her in the sheets, it freaks me out and most nights i wake up in a panic. Poor DH, i wake him out of his sleep in sheer terror, my heart is racing and im beside myself with panic... god, i used to be the most chilled out laid back person ever, i could sleep anywhere and didnt have a care in the world.... Now i feel so stressed all the time, i cant relax and find it very hard to sleep.

Sorry for babbling on... does anyone else feel like me? (probably not...)

Maybe ive got PND... :(

Will try and catch up with all the posts if i can before Sophie wakes up. Ive missed the October mummies, its so hard to get time to myself now... :(

Mammy

09-01-2008, 22:55

Ok ive only read the last couple of pages at the moment...

Zenifa.. there doesnt have to be a reason for feeling down, so dont stress, its normal, im feeling the same way too, i guess its all part and parcel of being a new mum (and for the second time for you which means you've got twice the excuse for feeling blue...) :hugs:

Jude... i think that is so sweet what you want to do for your granddad, just shows you really did love him :hugs:

Erinp... my dd is exactly the same, constantly sucking on her fingers, at times you would think she is so hungry that she just wants to get those babies down her throat quick smart!

Mammy

09-01-2008, 22:57

Ive just changed my signature from age 33 to 34.

God im old... :crying:

zenifa

10-01-2008, 12:35

Hi everyone!!
Well DD1 started daycare today, and I just phoned the centre and she's settled in really well, playing, eating and now having a nap!! I am so proud of her!!
Mum came with us this morning when I dropped her off and she seemed okay (distracted by jigsaw puzzles) when we left, and I did feel guilty leaving her and a bit sad :( Thankfully mum was there for moral support, and then I went to the hairdressers for a cut/eyebrow wax and then a quick trip to the shops to get a few things. I'm home now with DD2, and was resisting calling the centre until nap time to see how she was going. Perhaps this whole thing will be harder for me to adjust to than her? She is very social, and adaptable. I think it helped going there for a few hours weekly in Dec, as she knows the staff, kids and place and seemed comfortable there today.

I'm feeling a bit better now, although this morning, with the usual mayhem of trying to get ready and out the door, I did have a mini meltdown :gloomy: but thankfully that is over.
I think my low is just part of a normal dip in mood, I don't think its PND, maybe I'm premenstrual, without the AF ?? Who knows, I just hope it improves, I'm trying really hard to motivate myself to do stuff, so I don't just dwell on negative thoughts or get myself stressed and anxious.

Anne - you aren't old!! I'm only a year younger than you!!:p
Hope Sophie's sleeping improves for you!! Is she sleeping in your bed or your room? That could be why you are anxious about her? I think its normal for any new mum to have those feelings, but if you are worried, talk to you CHN, GP and get help if you think you need it. Sometimes just talking about it helps, either IRL via mum's groups or on bubhub.

Belinda/Mischief - glad to hear that you guys are going to counselling, hope it will help and get your relationship back on track. Its important to learn tools to deal with any problems, together!!
Re: bedroom action, well, when I was pregnant with DD1 my libido increased and we only stopped having sex two weeks prior to the birth (37 weeks) and resumed 2 weeks after the birth (as I had a great c/s recovery). With my pregnancy with DD2, my libido basically disappeared and has yet to really return, so DH (a patient and understanding man) and I haven't been that active in the bedroom. Plus he's now had is vasectomy, and technically 'not safe' yet. I'm not on any contraception and just haven't felt in the mood.

I think its different for everybody - you have the physical, hormonal, emotional changes to deal with, plus the tiredness/sleep deprivation, the 'all consuming' attention you give the newborn plus it also depends on your relationshipwith your spouse, and how he's coping with his new role, and how he now views you (transition from lover/wife to mother). It can get complicated, but over time should improve. This could be something to explore if you both feel comfortable, later in your counselling sessions. Good luck!

Better go and have lunch, get dinner started, as I will be going to pick up DD1 from daycare soon.
Have a great day everyone!

SJE

10-01-2008, 14:31

Moo Moo - I felt similar to you particularly with DD1. The fatigue can be a major negative contributer to your emotions and ability to cope. Because it's been going on so long as well you must be very worn down. If DH can take over the night feeds on the weekend, or if you can catch a nap every second day, it might help to make you feel more human? Are you taking some time out for yourself each day? It took 2 kids for me to realise the importance of doing this.
It has been a bit easier with this bub I have only really started enjoying life more now that bubs is giving me decent gaps at night time. Sleep is so important. Hope you can get through all this soon and bubs lets you get some more sleep. Its not easy - we are always here to chat if you need to :wave:.

On the bedroom front: The hormones have made that decision for me. They are keeping me firmly in babyland atm:cloud9:

Zenifa - I'm hoping that DD1 will behave for the photo's :fingerscrossed:
It's great you are able to get a regular break from DD1. Such a bonus that she likes the childcare centre. Some kids can be resistant to it.

sunnie

10-01-2008, 15:54

hi there i think i must of posted in the wrong bit im new to bub hub.. i had my 3rd gorgeous girl on the 30th of october.. and looking forward to speaking to you girls..

sam's mum

10-01-2008, 16:10

Welcome Sunnie and congrats on the arrival of Isla!
Love the name, it was on our shortlist of names also.

Anne sorry to hear you are having a rough time. I don't have any advice even after going through a rough time with each of mine, all I can say is at some stage it does get better... unfortunately sometimes it can take a while.

Re the bedroom, with Logan it was within 2 weeks, and I think with Afrika it was 3 weeks. It has been less frequent with Afrika because I've had so many bleeding issues. I have absolutely no libido at the moment, but to me keeping our relationship sexually active is very important, and it is also great for DH stress release (for me it's exercise, coffee and chocolate LOL, oh and spending money!). So depsite not feeling like it I make sure he still gets some at least once or twice a day when he is home. Sex to a man is as important as communication a woman.

ONCE OR TWICE A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

omg, never ever let my DH see that post. I don't have my libido back yet, so he is lucky if it is once or twice a week.

welcome Sunnie! how old are your other kids?

saremc

10-01-2008, 16:23

Hi Girls

Things have been a bit crazy Bella got her shots yesterday ( i cried :() and today she just feeds and feeds and is so unsetted grrr i hope she isnt having a reaction. Im still worried about her weight just dont know why she isnt putting on weight.

Jude - sorry to hear about your granddad :hugs:

i have been reading im just sooo buggered LOL as we all are.

On the sex front i think if DF could get it all the time he would love it but im am just way too tired and i sometimes feel bad (he gets way more sleep) and have to explain to him why and the fact that he should trade places with me one day i would love adult company.

im off to say he to DF then im back on to post the long awaited pic of my ring!

BBL:wave:

sam's mum

10-01-2008, 16:50

My DH works away and is only home 5 days out of every 14, which is why I keep him happy when he is home.
Even when we both worked 14+hr days though I still made sure it was at least daily. I think it's 'cos I am old fashioned and still think it's a mans job to earn the bacon and a womans job to cook it :laughing:

ok. 5 days out of 14 I can get on board with.

AnD05

10-01-2008, 18:56

:wave:

Been busy here, so just managing to read all the posts and do a quick one.

MooMoo - :hugs:to you hun. I agree with SeeJayElle, sleep deprivation has a huge input on your emotions. I had a meltdown last week and poor DH coped it. I am getting more sleep than you so I really don't know how your coping. Maybe you can try your CHN again for some advice re:sleeping? or some sort of sleep school in your city? Sorry Im not much help, but I certainly can relate to feeling like Im not coping some days. I hope things get better for you.

Sex: Had it first time about 7wks after DS born and had a couple of times since. Am gradually getting my labido back, I find I have to have it and that helps me want it more :confused: but sorry can't keep up with Cassie on the 1/2 times a day ;)

Zenifa - Yay for DD1's first time at day care! She sounds like she coped much better than you :D. It must be so strange not having her there.... hope this gets easier for you.

Saremc - the ring?????

Sunnie - Hi, welcome! Can't wait to get to know you and your bubba girl! I think Mrs Green said your DD's name was Isla, we had that picked out if it was a girl, but not to be this time!

Well, prob won't get back on here for a few days. I have DS's 13wk check with CHN tomorrow, memorial thing in arvo for MIL, BBQ back at our house after that for everyone. I have to find the time to also vacuum/mop and cook 2 cakes. Then Sunday we are off to Perth for the funeral for DH's nan. So should be back sometime on Tues!

DS seems to be getting better with his pain & medication. I will give it another few weeks to fully decide whether to continue or not. Have also found that gripe water is helping him (I think). He is not sleeping that great at night, still waking up quite a bit but at least he is going down earlier these days and without too much of a fight which is nice!

Hope everyone has a lovely end of week and weekend!

A

mischief79

10-01-2008, 20:28

Anna - enjoy your time away, even though it's not for such a nice reason.

Jane - I agree, I can't let DH see that!

Cassie - even though he works away, you're still doing a great job! Before the pregnancy we were like any other young married couple, and even then it hadn't been twice a day since before we were engaged. I think we have some serious intimacy issues....

Anne - sorry to hear your nights aren't the best. Are you able to share the night feeds? An extra hours sleep may help. But at least she;s getting slowly better.

Zenifa - how come you put DD1 in day care? Are you going back to work or is it for her to be around more children?

Saremc - the ring??????????

Does this happen to anyone else? I put Katelyn down to sleep at night and she drifts off. Just as she's about to be fully asleep she starts to do this really high pitches shriek/cry/wail/scream. Its REALLY high, but when I walk in to her nursery her eyes are shut but she's making the noise. I rub her tummy and then she's okay??

Another hot day here again. But I had to catch up on 2 weeks of housework that I refused to do while DH was on holidays. Its quicker doing it when there's no one getting in the way!

saremc

10-01-2008, 20:29

Hi

Here is the ring the picture is ok but it is so beautiful in real life!!

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=14418&id=618929054&saved

Let me know if it doesnt work

Welcome to the group Sunnie we are all great at :ecomcity: takes me ages to catch up on the thread but its worth it all the girls are great!

laurannson

10-01-2008, 22:07

Howdy-hope everyone has had a good day!!!!

MooMoo-reading your situation reminded me of when I had DD1-I was always worried about her wellbeing!!All I can say is make sure you are looking after yourself,and definitely speak to someone if you are still feeling stressed.
:hugs: to you as well-no one tells us how hard this parenting is hey!

Saremc-unfortunately the link won't work for me!

Mischief 79-my mum and dad are in Adelaide as well(you are there aren't you???!?!!)and they have been saying how hot it is as well-hope you have a cool house!:sunshine:
Ando5-hope the next few days are OK for you-always a hard time to go through-my thoughts are with you.:hugs:
Mrsgreen-you have just hit legend status with me......twice a day!?!?!?!?!?My DH is definitely not reading this either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Sunnie-welcome!!!Can't wait to hear more about your family!!!!
Well Samuel is 12 weeks old today.....I can't believe it-weighed him...........7.1kg,so definitely on the "heavier" side of the chart-will have to measure him tomorrow!!!!!:flowerz:
After his 1 night of sleeping till 5am he was really unsettled last night-fed every 4 hours,with no longer stretch-hope it is just a growth spurt!!!!!:fingerscrossed:
Anyway better fold up some clothes before his dream feed-take care everyone!

AnD05

11-01-2008, 13:07

Saremc - Gorgeous ring! Love it!!! :yes:

Ok already stressed! I baked a banana cake this morning and after being in the oven for the recommended time its so not cooked! Its still all gooey inside! I think I used the wrong the flour!! :confused: ****!!

Oh well gotta go help hubby put food shopping away and then race up to the CHN!!

:wave:
A

zenifa

11-01-2008, 13:08

Zenifa - I'm hoping that DD1 will behave for the photo's :fingerscrossed:
It's great you are able to get a regular break from DD1. Such a bonus that she likes the childcare centre. Some kids can be resistant to it.

I have been very lucky, DD1 coped really well at daycare yesterday, she had lots of fun playing with the other kids, she didn't have a sleep, but did have a rest/quiet time and couldn't stop chatting about her day when I picked her up and she said she wanting to go back again!! I am so proud of her!!

hi there i think i must of posted in the wrong bit im new to bub hub.. i had my 3rd gorgeous girl on the 30th of october.. and looking forward to speaking to you girls..

Welcome Sunnie!! :wave: congratulations on the birth of your 3rd gorgeous girl!! Tell us more about yourself and your family!! Look forward to chatting and getting to know you better!!

Re the bedroom, with Logan it was within 2 weeks, and I think with Afrika it was 3 weeks. It has been less frequent with Afrika because I've had so many bleeding issues. I have absolutely no libido at the moment, but to me keeping our relationship sexually active is very important, and it is also great for DH stress release (for me it's exercise, coffee and chocolate LOL, oh and spending money!). So depsite not feeling like it I make sure he still gets some at least once or twice a day when he is home. Sex to a man is as important as communication a woman.

Wow!! One or two times per day!! Even if it is 5 days in 14, that is a great effort, I am sure that your DH appreciates that;)!! And you also look after the kids and keep the house clean and tidy!! He is one lucky man!!

Zenifa - how come you put DD1 in day care? Are you going back to work or is it for her to be around more children?

We didn't have plans to put DD1 into daycare, we initially planned for her to go to kindy once she turned 3 or 4 BUT, I was having a horrid day in Nov, and the daycare called out of the blue to say they had a place for DD1 (we put her name down nearly 3 years ago, its the best one in the area, and I really wanted her to go there!), so I agreed to take a place two days/week.
Being lazy, this saved me the trouble of putting her name down for kindy later (as here if we want them to go at age 4 to a C&K centre, we need to have their name on lists when they are 2).
I'm not back at work yet, but plan to go back later this year. Having her in there now, means she will be more settled when I do go back to work (DD2 will be with MIL or my mum, as I wouldnt' send her to daycare til she's over 2yo).
I do have a mums group, playgroup and a couple of friends with kids, but most of my friends don't have kids, a few are pregnant at the moment. She only has 1 cousin, so she will enjoy being with other kids.
DD1 is a very social child so this will be great for her, she loves playing with other kids and may help us with TT, as she is already very interested in seeing other kids her age going to the toilet by themselves!
Also it gives me some one on one time with DD2, and I can get stuff done (cooking, cleaning, groc shopping, appts etc), which I have found very difficult with the two girls. I do have help from MIL or mum if I need it, but its quite a big ask to have them look after the two girls. They are great, but its full on hectic.
If DD1 doesn't like it, we can always take her out, but so far so good. Today is only her 2nd day though!

I'm about to go and cook dinner, have lunch and pick up DD1. I had a friend visit today which was nice, but means I am a bit behind with my chores.
All is going well with us, I am feeling a bit better and so relieved that DD1 is happy at daycare.

Have a great day and I'll try to pop back later! Bye!

laurannson

11-01-2008, 22:05

Howdy-it has been pretty quiet in here today-hope everyone has had a good day!!!!!

We went to a great park this morning with mothers group from DD1,which was great but very busy for me,as I am the only sucker....sorry lucky one(!!!)to have more than 2 kids,so whilst everyone else sat and relaxed under the trees,watching their 5 and 3 year old play beautifully ,I was chasing around my very exuberant 21month old,and trying to breastfeed Samuel at the same time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Needless to say I was pleased that I made the effort to go....but even more pleased to go home!!!!!!

AnDO5-hope the cake turned out OK and the CHN visit went well!!!

Zenifa-I also send my kids to day care-a family day care one,and it is the best-not only for me,but also for them!!!!Its great that your DD1 is enjoying it as well-makes the guilt feeling feel a bit less hey-I hate feeling guilty for sending them,but for some reason I do feel guilty?!?!?!?!?!?!:confused:

Anyway hope everyone has a fab weekend-will try and get back here over the weekend!
Cheers!

Grizabella

12-01-2008, 00:48

Sare - love the ring! We must have similar taste cos if Stu ever proposed that's the type I would like :D

RE sex - Stu isn't a hornbag and neither am I. We have sex but it isn;t the pivotal point of our relationship. We prefer to lie in bed and has a nice cuddle and a chat. We started BDing at about 7 weeks - and I am sh!tting myself! We withdrew the last time and then I realised it was a cple weeks after my last AF which means if my cycles are back on track right near O!!!! I really hope I am not pregs. Don't think I could handle another pregnancy - nearly broke me last time. Stu would want me to abort - I know I would nut it out - but I thnk it could have a very high chance of breaking us up.

Also I got my tatt - and as you can see http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g177/Brions_Mum/Jan2008/Image024.jpg
unless I grow another arm I am going to have a difficult time adding another name! :laughing:

Had my Grandad's service today - it was nice and simple. Am handling myself ok.

Have a friend's Bday dinner tomorrow night, but because of the other knob-end of a manager has messed sh!t up once again Stu can't go!!! So sick of this happening!

Sorry no real personals - I am still a slackarse!

zenifa

12-01-2008, 06:00

Sara - sorry haven't been able to see the photo of the ring, the link isn't working for me...help!

Saremc - Gorgeous ring! Love it!!!

Ok already stressed! I baked a banana cake this morning and after being in the oven for the recommended time its so not cooked! Its still all gooey inside! I think I used the wrong the flour!! :confused: ****!!

Oh well gotta go help hubby put food shopping away and then race up to the CHN!!

:wave:
A

SNAP!! I made a banana cake yesterday too!!
If you want, I can send you my quick and easy, never fail banana cake recipe, so you get it right next time!!
Good on you for making the effort though!
Hope the CHN appt went well!

Howdy-it has been pretty quiet in here today-hope everyone has had a good day!!!!!

We went to a great park this morning with mothers group from DD1,which was great but very busy for me,as I am the only sucker....sorry lucky one(!!!)to have more than 2 kids,so whilst everyone else sat and relaxed under the trees,watching their 5 and 3 year old play beautifully ,I was chasing around my very exuberant 21month old,and trying to breastfeed Samuel at the same time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Needless to say I was pleased that I made the effort to go....but even more pleased to go home!!!!!!

AnDO5-hope the cake turned out OK and the CHN visit went well!!!

Zenifa-I also send my kids to day care-a family day care one,and it is the best-not only for me,but also for them!!!!Its great that your DD1 is enjoying it as well-makes the guilt feeling feel a bit less hey-I hate feeling guilty for sending them,but for some reason I do feel guilty?!?!?!?!?!?!:confused:

Anyway hope everyone has a fab weekend-will try and get back here over the weekend!
Cheers!

You are amazing making that effort to get out to the park with the kids, I'm sure they enjoyed it, although it sounded a bit hectic for you, must be hard to relax with having 4 to keep an eye on!!
Although DD1 is enjoying daycare so far, and I can in my head think of all the reasons for her to go, part of me does feel a bit guilty, maybe its because I'm not working? Also we didn't plan to send her, a place came up and we decided to try it?
Maybe her going to daycare was what me feel low earlier in the week? Anticipating it and feeling bad about it!

Jude - love your tatts, hope it didn't hurt too much.
Good luck to you with a :bfn: as I hope you aren't pregnant for your and Stu's sake!! Glad that your granddad's service went well. Great to see you pop back in here from time to time.

I woke up at 5.30am, as DD2 didn't feed from my left breast last night before bed (although I tried, but she was completely asleep after draining the right boob). So here I am, for the 1st time in weeks, expressing and hoping to get back to bed for more :sleeping: before the girls get up. Inlaws are visiting later this morning, but no other plans today. Got a friend visiting tomorrow, just a quiet weekend for us.
Enjoy :flowerz:

laurannson

12-01-2008, 11:06

Howdy-just a quickie for me.....I have to brag!!!!!:laughing:
Samuel fed at 1030pm last night,and then didn't wake till 7am-what a little legend!!!!!:flowerz:

Just a quick question though-how many times in 24hrs are your bubs feeding now???:confused:

We had gone from 7 feeds in 24hrs to 6 for about the last week,but if he is going to start sleeping through(yer I know wishful thinking!!!)do I drop that feed as well-or just feed more often during the day?!?!?!I can't remember with the other kids,probably because the last 2 didn't sleep through until a lot later!!!!!:sleeping:
Or should I just continue to demand feed,and if he only has 5 feeds that is OK?!?!?
Oh the things that I worry about now days-how life has changed!!!!!!!:D
Hope everyone has a good day!!!
Cheers!:hugs:

zenifa

12-01-2008, 14:54

DD2 has been sleeping through since 11 weeks and she is now nearly 15 weeks old. I find that she doesn't have long sleeps during the day, just a few 45 min naps (3 or 4). She sleeps from 7.30pm - 6am (on avg sometimes longer). During the day I demand bf her, and it can be every 3 or 4 hours and even sometimes a few cluster feeds every 1 or 2hrs. I never clock watch nor count feeds, if she's hungry I bf her and she always has a massive feed before bed - my supply gets lower and she takes longer to drain my breasts 30 mins+, but its great as she's full, content and sleeps through.

:yelclap: Great work Samuel :yelclap: keep up the good sleeps for your mummy!!:smiliedance:

AnD05

12-01-2008, 17:48

Hi all,

Feeling very blah today, would of been lucky to get 3hrs :sleeping:last night. Our guests didnt leave until 11:30pm and by the time I got to sleep it was after 12am, then DS woke for a feed at 2:30am and then proceeded to wake every hr after that for goodness knows why!!! DH and I were exhausted this morning, all I can say is I hope he sleeps better tonight! Im finding so hard dealing with the lack of sleep, I have a bad feeling DS won't ever sleep through just because I so desperately want him too.

Zenifa - Yes please Id love your recipe.

Laurannson - :smiliedance: for Samuel sleeping so well, please send some sleepy dust this way :yes:. Glad you had fun at the park too!

Well, Id better go pack, we head up to Perth tomorrow for a few nights. Am hoping DS sleeps ok in the Portacot, hey he can't really sleep any worse than last night! Actually I shouldn't say that cause he probably can :devil6:.
Oh, Mil's memorial was absolutely lovely, very special and moving.

CHN check was fine. All good, weight was 5.75kgs. I actually thought he'd hit the 6kg but not quite. His medication has finally set in and he is a much happier baby during the day too :bee:.

Hope e1 having lovely weekend!

A

saremc

12-01-2008, 20:46

Hi

Hope everone is ok :hugs: to all of you who need them!

We are having a quiet one here DF went out last night and got home at 5am i was so worried he didnt even call to say where he was :banghead: he came in to the house quietly but i was up feeding Bella he got just a bit of a shock lol its all good but im going to make him help me with the house work hehe serves him right i dont get to go out without Bella i barely am able to shower in peace now, sorry for the vent just feeling a bit lonley thats all.

I will find another way to put the ring on hang on a sec....:detective:

saremc

12-01-2008, 21:04

http://http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=317902&id=618929054

Try that i hope it works!

Shakey

12-01-2008, 21:40

Howdy-just a quickie for me.....I have to brag!!!!!:laughing:
Samuel fed at 1030pm last night,and then didn't wake till 7am-what a little legend!!!!!:flowerz:

Just a quick question though-how many times in 24hrs are your bubs feeding now???:confused:

DD is demand fed, she has anywhere from 4 feeds a day to 6 feeds a day, and the days she has 6 feeds 2 of them are cluster ones in the evening

I was getting worried that she isn't feeding enough, she sleeps alot, she goes down for about 2-4hrs after each feed,

does anyone elses baby sleep that much?

well i'm finally back on the net after a few days, DH took vista off my computer cause I couldn't use msn on it for some reason, took him 2 days to get me back on the net cause he was taking his time lol

i've read the last few pages but can't remember any of it lol, so sorry for the lack of personals

laurannson

12-01-2008, 23:11

Me again!!!!!:D
Thanks for that info guys-that makes me feel alot better-I just need to go with the flow!!!!!!!!:p
I can't help myself sometimes-I like to know what is going to happen.......way before it does!!!!!!:laughing:
Have a good night!

TeamAwesome

13-01-2008, 01:27

Hi Ladies,
just kind of a flying visit, a fair bit to catch up on so won't really do personals except to say lovely ring Sarah! I swear they only really look as great as in real life if you're using professional photographers light and other fancy equipment! I was able to see the ring on the first link and thought perhaps the others can't see it as they don't have a facebook account?

Anyway Angelina is also sleeping through BUT she's teething and as with my other two panadol does basically nothing am going to go out tomorrow to try to get some brauers teething relief if she's old enough to have it yet, been so long since I used it.

On the TTing front Ty is doing brilliantly! He's going when I ask him, has even told me a couple of times when he needed to go and hasn't had any major accidents the last couple of days! so yay Ty!!

well better get back to sleep. It's amazing how much I wake even though bub is sleeping through!

Natalie

erinp

13-01-2008, 06:43

Hi girls,

Gorgeous ring Sara!!!

Anne - I don't know if you will read this but I hope you are feeling a bit better :hugs: You have been given some really good adviice over the previous few pages (by the time you get back on there will be heaps on here it will probably be hard to find!). If you need to talk, your first port of call should be your CHN or GP. There are helplines you can call (and in NSW some of them are 24hr, not sure if you have that up there) to help both with settling and how you are feeling. I really hope you are ok.

Hannah is going well still; currently still asleep as we had a very late night at SIL's place.... DH still in bed too after quite a few beers with his BIL..... Has been really hot here the past couple of days and Hannah just slept and slept yesterday - was worried she wouldn't sleep in the night but she has and of course I couldn't! Always the way.... Anyway a flying visit here as I have ppl coming this arvo and have to get my house looking a bit cleaner... should be cleaning instead of being on the computer!!

P.S. Jude your tats look so cool. I don't know how you can do it, I *hate* needles and would be so scared. Sounds like you are coping well after your pop's passing which is good to hear.

laurannson

14-01-2008, 10:11

Hello-hope everyone had a good weekend!!!:)

We had a busy day yesterday with friends coming over for lunch,and then we met some other friends for dinner-at a great pub.....with a playground there!!!!!!We usually try and lie low on Sundays as it is DH only day off,so this was very different for us!!!!!!!!

Samuel continues to be a star and has slept through for 3 nights now-but I still feel tired!!!Last night he fed at 8.30pm ,and then at 6.30am,so he is definately in the good books!!!!!:smiliedance:

Anyway hope everyone has a great day!
Cheers!:flowerz:

TeamAwesome

14-01-2008, 11:07

Hi Ladies,
Hope you all had a good weekend.

Have a little more time so trying to catch up on personals!:flowerz:

Jude- I think your tats are lovely.:thumbsup: I couldn't do it myself as I don't like needless unless extremely necessary!
My DH wants to get one once we've completed our brood to commemorate the kids but we'll see. He doesn't like needles any more then I do, I've offered to go watch and "be supportive" as much as he is for me when ever I had to get needles (which will involve me saying "ouch that must hurt a lot" to him as he did to me lmao)

laurannson- obviously going with the flow is working for you and samuel so keep it up! What a little champ!:smiliedance: Angie has also been sleeping similarly to Sam and she feeds I think about 5 times a day (will work it out today for you) She went to bed early last night at 6.30 pm, she normally has another small feed before bed at night but didn't last night, so she woke about 3am back to sleep around 4am woke at 9.30am and is now back asleep. When she next wakes up she'll have a good play and be up for a couple of hours minimum. She loves tummy time too oh and of course interacting with her older siblings (as I'm sure so does your samuel)

Erin - hope you had a good time with your visitors! On the sleep thing it seems with most (though not all) the more the have the better they'll sleep (and of course she's probably growing too) not like us adults where if we have a nap we can't sleep well that night.

Jo- Angie sleeps a bit like Alexis:sleeping: not all the time but will sleep for a good 2-4 hrs after most feeds and a bit of a play. Sounds like she's doing what she should be to me. Is she growing/gaining much lately could explain it if it seems unusual for her.

Well the kids are having a love hate relationship atm, lots of fighting but also lots of cuddles and cute moments, I really don't like having to keep them inside but you know safety issues etc means I have to keep them inside while our mud pit dries up!! Aden has the car today (looked like it was going to rain at 5am) so I can't even take them to a friends to play or to visit my MIL which I think we'll have to do tomorrow just for something different.

well better go organise something their tummies are now claiming to be really, really hungry.:laughing: or so I've been told, I have bottomless pits/hollow legs and whatever else you could call it for children.

Dh and I are looking forward to being an Uncle and Aunty for the first time... so many options for advice (won't give any unless asked) so many silly presents we could give. DH has always been the one who gives joke type presents, now we do combo's for people who have babies. I tend to do the cutesy usefull stuff and he'll throw in his 2c worth. Our friend who had a baby before us got a pair of pj's which said "sleep is for the weak" with bart simpson on it from Aden and a couple of cute bibs which said stuff like boys are lovely on it.

Well better go feed my little munchkins. Have a great day girls.

Natalie

SJE

14-01-2008, 16:11

Antlmummy - You'll love being an Aunty! Its almost as good as being a grandparent. All the fun and less of the mess:D.
Its great TY is doing so well with the TT.
Not so good here I'm afraid. All DD1 will do on the loo is fart! Poor kid she will sit on there and strain but no wee appears. Then she goes to play and watches in amazement as this liquid runs down her legs onto the carpet.
Checked out the toilet training links on BH. It basically said 'give me money for my ebook and I'll tell you my secrets for TTing your child in three days'. Seems to be a bit of a scam. I may be wrong though.
In some ways I'm not even sure where to start with it all. We have been putting her on the loo whenever she says 'wee'. Tried her with training pants, normal knickers, and no pants but all she seems to be doing is ****ing on the carpet. We even go to the toilet together. Its all getting rather annoying cleaning up all the time:mad:

Saremc - i'll have to take your word for it on the ring. My computer security is so tight it wont let me look at it.

AnD05 - :fingerscrossed: It your little man will sleep through the night soon.

My last BF effort - :yes:
DH asked me yesterday whether I'd attempted to get bubs on the breast lately. It got me thinking that perhaps I could give it another go. Bubs hasnt had any bottles today. Shes just been having booby.
Currently she is only taking the right one. When I offer the left, she goes nuts. With the right breast I have to squeeze it as she sucks to match the flow of the bottle. Once she's had a good go, she'll have a play and fall to sleep seemingly content. CYH and the ABA said just to be vigilant on her nappies and weight to make sure she is getting enough. Also to suppliment with an eyedropper or a cup if I need to. Perhaps I can feed her from the right breast and express from the left until we are better with the whole feeding thing?

What do you guys think?(I might post this in another section as well just to get a few different opinions)

Grizabella

14-01-2008, 16:38

Oh that's great news seejay!!!! I really hope this works out for you - you have tried so bloomin hard you deserve a medal!!!!!:hugs:

Question for any pee-on-a stick-aholics. Does an evap line have colour in it? Or should I worry about the second line that came up after the time frame???

saremc

14-01-2008, 20:52

Hey Ladies

Well it has been hot here today, and with a bit of light showers.

Bella has been quite unsettled she feeds and feeds but durring the day she wont sleep she was awake from 5am to feed and had a tiny nad for about 15min then awake till about 10:30 and slept for about half an hour then she went to sleep for 20 min at about three, she just screams and screams when she is awake amd i have burped her she also had infacol and marina mix but still no setteling. I really worried coz DF gets home and he gets her to sleep (after alot of fighting) then its like she crashes out she sleeps and sleeps. Its really worrying coz she isnt putting on alot of weight and she just seems so tired but she is a happy baby :no: i dont know what to do!

I have given in as well i had a ciggie today :( i feel so bad but it got so frustrating and i needed to calm down (nothing else i usally try to calm myself worked)

Sorry for the vent im just feeling a bit low things are just getting to me :gloomy:.

Thanks for the comments on the ring i love it glad you guys do too.

Seejay - :thumbsup: you are a trooper stick with it im supporting you all the way i hope buba gets the idea and becomes a boobie monster!

Jude - I have been wondering if im pregnant lately i hope im not as i would really like to wait a while, im just having some familar feelings i might get a test next time i do the shopping hmmmm..... Im not sure about the faint line i would maybe try a different test. (hope that helps)

laurannson - great to hear about the champion sleeps hope Sam keeps it up.

Other than having a pretty ****ty day
my parents are over and decided to do some gardening well dad hit a pipe and it cracked it so we have no water untill they go to the hardware tomorrow morning :crying: it just keeps getting worse.

Im taking Bella to the doctors tomorrow and myself my wound has been a bit sore and red so just going to get it checked out and going to tell the doctor that Bella has heartburn/relfux, when im burping her the milk comes back up and she grimaces and has tears like it burns poor little girl.

Im also going to get her weighed and have a chat to the nurse to see what else i can do.

Sorry if i have missed anyone hope you are all going well!!

mischief79

14-01-2008, 21:26

lauransson - Katelyn feeds about 5 times a day. But her feeds can be anywhere from 5 hours to 1 hour apart. She usually doesn't feed more than 5 though. I think she's just getting more efficient because it seems like each feed is only for a few minutes each side. Samuel sounds like he's doing much better

Sarah - there must be something wrong with my computer. I can't see the ring....
Your DF sounds like my DH the other night. He was at a poker tournament all day Saturday (I dropped him off at 10am) and came stumbling in the door at 4.10am! I had no idea where he was and he didn't ring me..... "I didn't think about it" hmmmmm

Zenifa - DD1 sounds like she's a very happy child, and enjoys daycare. Hope this week it continues. We went and looked at a newly built childcare centre up the road on Saturday. All brand new and people were very friendly, but I can't bear to think about leaving her there yet! What will I do when I have to go back to work!?!?

Jude - your tatoos look fantastic! Wish I had the guts to do it. DH will at some stage though. He wants a hand curled on his chest and on each finger have the name of one of our children. We only have 1 now, how many does he think we'll have!!

Anna - Hope your trip to Perth is enjoyale, and that you got some decent sleep.

Natalie - teething already? What age does that start? I've felt Katelyn's gums a few times, but nothing yet

Erin - hope you enjoyed having some friends over. I'd rather go and see someone at there house, because I'm worried that if they come to mine they won't leave when I need them to. Horrible of me isn't it.

SJE - sometimes Katelyn is like that. She will feed fine off one boob, and scream the house down if I give her the other. I rang the Parents Help Line and they suggested that she might have an earache, and it hurt lying on that side. She's usually be okay the next day

Started some spring cleaning today (I know, it's summer). I've decided that I have too much junk and clutter. I hate getting rid of things and hoard far too much. Things are all hidden away in caupboards and stuff, so the house isn't messy, but it's time to get rid of anything that hasn't been touched in 3 years. Longer time than the suggested 1 year, but I'm starting slowly.
Gave Katelyn her bed time bath tonight, and half way through she started grinning like crazy..... and then did a big poo. I grabbed her out as it was running down her leg....gross! Quickly dunked her in the clean end and then had to run a new bath to clean her off! She thought it was hilarious though! She's laughing and smiling all the time now. If you make a shape with your mouth (to sound a letter or an expression etc) she will copy you after a while.

Good Night Ladies

erinp

15-01-2008, 07:05

Hi ladies,

Got back on here again (can you believe it!?!) but am feeling a bit sorry for myself lately. Just a bit blergh for no reason (a bit like Zenifa a few days back....). I'm sure I'll get over it but I am just feeling anxious and overwhelemed but really should have no reaason to. Ho hum, sure it'll pass.

A few personals (sorry if I miss any, doing from memory and I have to admit mine's not that good!)

SeeJay - well done on the BF effort! :yelclap:You really have done so well, and so has your DD. It would be great if you could now BF without having to pump!

Sara - hope things get better for you. Seems you always have a lot going on.

Jude - ummmm, not sure about your pee stick Q.... :fingerscrossed: you're not pregnant.....

Nat - hope the kids are getting on a bit better now.

TeamAwesome

15-01-2008, 07:24

Morning Ladies,

Jude - No an evap line isn't supposed to have colour. Did you test first thing in the morning? The last one I did said to wait until 19 days after you DTD if you are unsure as to when your AF is due (I didn't wait but only because I did it thinking oh yeah plenty of time since then but I miss calculated which reminds me I need another test)

SJE-yes we like the sound of all fun and less mess as an Uncle and Aunt and well we come with built in play mates for when they visit after bub is born. lol. You sound like you're doing a fabulous job with BF!! just wondering have you taken her or thought about taking her to a chiro? It sounds like perhaps her neck is out or something if she's favouring one breast over the other, it happened to me with my first except I didn't realise at the time so I ended up having a HUGE right breast and teeny weeny little breast for a while until it was sorted out (took us awhile to realise it wasn't normal for a bub to do that)
The one thing I've learnt is don't push them with toilet training. your DD1 sounds like mine will giggle if she farts on the toilet cos it has better acoustics I presume but short of tying her to the actual toilet I don't think she'll be TT too soon. I got sick of cleaning up her undies and accidents on the carpet (never on the tiles) and her getting upset by the wee. oh well, it does come trust me! I've watched Ty become really aware of it all three times now I'm just going to leave Libby a couple of more months first as obviously her control over that area still isn't that great but the awareness is good so I always try to change her nappy as soon as she asks as it will totally help with TTing.

Belinda- yes babies can start teething early, it's more so my kids teeth start moving now and the actual first tooth will come through around 5/6 months old. Most of my friends kids seem to have the teeth start moving only a few weeks prior to the appearance of the tooth and that seems to be anywhere from 6months to 9months for their first teeth. Mind you one of my friends little boys is 1yo in about 9weeks and he's only got two bottom teeth and specks showing for the top teeth. so every child is really individual.

Have a nice day girls, I have to get to the shops and do a few things, so I think I'll ask MIL if she'd like to come along as it's raining.

Natalie

zenifa

15-01-2008, 09:19

Hi everyone!!
I haven't been on here for a few days, hope you all had a great weekend and your week is going well so far.
On Saturday we had the inlaws come over to deliver our Xmas presents that we couldn't fit into our car on the day - a 3 person swing for the girls (its one of those plastic rocker type things that can fit 1-3 kids), a stand alone full length mirror for me and Dh is borrowing FIL's bike, as he is wanting to get fit.
On Sunday, DH had a friend of his over, and I went out to meet a friend for brunch and do the grocery shopping. I did get a distress call from DH, but when I got home, all was fine, DD2 had 20mls of EBM, had a few little sleeps but was pleased to see mummy, as was daddy!!
Yesterday morning, I took the girls for a Mother's Group reunion, at a friends house. I still see and keep in touch with these mums and bubs that are DD1's age (2.5yrs old), but we rarely all get together, so it was nice to have the six mums and 9 kids there, plus another is on its way in March (yes 3 of us have had no2). In the afternoon MIL came to play with the girls, so I popped out to see a film with a friend (27 dresses, okay movie) which I haven't done in ages! We also had DD1's swimming lesson in the evening!
Quiet day at home today, as yesterday was rather hectic, plus its raining, so will be interesting to keep DD1 entertained indoors!!
DD2 has still been feeding and sleeping well - happy and content and loves to play with her sister.
Okay will now try for some personals.

zenifa

15-01-2008, 10:20

Not so good here I'm afraid. All DD1 will do on the loo is fart! Poor kid she will sit on there and strain but no wee appears. Then she goes to play and watches in amazement as this liquid runs down her legs onto the carpet.
Checked out the toilet training links on BH. It basically said 'give me money for my ebook and I'll tell you my secrets for TTing your child in three days'. Seems to be a bit of a scam. I may be wrong though.
In some ways I'm not even sure where to start with it all. We have been putting her on the loo whenever she says 'wee'. Tried her with training pants, normal knickers, and no pants but all she seems to be doing is ****ing on the carpet. We even go to the toilet together. Its all getting rather annoying cleaning up all the time

My last BF effort -
DH asked me yesterday whether I'd attempted to get bubs on the breast lately. It got me thinking that perhaps I could give it another go. Bubs hasnt had any bottles today. Shes just been having booby.
Currently she is only taking the right one. When I offer the left, she goes nuts. With the right breast I have to squeeze it as she sucks to match the flow of the bottle. Once she's had a good go, she'll have a play and fall to sleep seemingly content. CYH and the ABA said just to be vigilant on her nappies and weight to make sure she is getting enough. Also to suppliment with an eyedropper or a cup if I need to. Perhaps I can feed her from the right breast and express from the left until we are better with the whole feeding thing?

What do you guys think?(I might post this in another section as well just to get a few different opinions)

Looks like we are sharing the same TT journey. DD1 did sit on the toilet at daycare on Friday (when all the other kids were being toiletted). At home, we often have nappy free time, encourage use of the potty, toilet and we've tried DD1 in undies and pullups.
She will sit on the potty while I read a story, but nothing much happens. We've got the reward chart and she did well with sitting on the potty, so no wee or poo so far. No real advice for you, but I've been lucky as we haven't had messy cleanups. She's wee-ed her undies a couple of times, but nothing major. Good luck with it, let us know how you go.

You have done a great job expressing and feeding for so long :yelclap: Good luck with bf, keep offering her both breasts, and if she only feeds from one side, express the other. Sounds like you have good support from DH, ABA, CHN etc, sorry I don't have any more suggestions but keep up the good work :thumbsup:

Oh that's great news seejay!!!! I really hope this works out for you - you have tried so bloomin hard you deserve a medal!!!!!

Question for any pee-on-a stick-aholics. Does an evap line have colour in it? Or should I worry about the second line that came up after the time frame???

I saw your other thread Jude, good luck this morning, let us know how you go! We're here to talk if you need us. The pics I saw did look like a +ve, but I guess your testing today will yield better results.

On a personal note, now I am a bit worried that I could be pregnant. Its 6 weeks or so since DH had the snip, but he's not getting his sperm tested to confirm he's safe for another month! AF hasn't returned as yet, and we did have unprotected sex!! Silly I know!! Given my libido has been almost non-existant, I didn't think it would be a problem, but now I am a little worried. Wondering when should I test?? Might post another thread about this too for more advice.

Hey Ladies

Bella has been quite unsettled she feeds and feeds but durring the day she wont sleep she was awake from 5am to feed and had a tiny nad for about 15min then awake till about 10:30 and slept for about half an hour then she went to sleep for 20 min at about three, she just screams and screams when she is awake amd i have burped her she also had infacol and marina mix but still no setteling. I really worried coz DF gets home and he gets her to sleep (after alot of fighting) then its like she crashes out she sleeps and sleeps. Its really worrying coz she isnt putting on alot of weight and she just seems so tired but she is a happy baby :no: i dont know what to do!

I have given in as well i had a ciggie today i feel so bad but it got so frustrating and i needed to calm down (nothing else i usally try to calm myself worked)

Sorry for the vent im just feeling a bit low things are just getting to me

Thanks for the comments on the ring i love it glad you guys do too.

Jude - I have been wondering if im pregnant lately i hope im not as i would really like to wait a while, im just having some familar feelings i might get a test next time i do the shopping hmmmm..... Im not sure about the faint line i would maybe try a different test. (hope that helps)

Other than having a pretty ****ty day
my parents are over and decided to do some gardening well dad hit a pipe and it cracked it so we have no water untill they go to the hardware tomorrow morning it just keeps getting worse.

Im taking Bella to the doctors tomorrow and myself my wound has been a bit sore and red so just going to get it checked out and going to tell the doctor that Bella has heartburn/relfux, when im burping her the milk comes back up and she grimaces and has tears like it burns poor little girl.

Im also going to get her weighed and have a chat to the nurse to see what else i can do.

Sorry if i have missed anyone hope you are all going well!!

:hugs: to you Sara!! hope all goes well with your doctors appt today for you and Bella!
Hope the water problem got sorted and your pipe is fixed, frustrating on top of all the other stuff going on for you!
I can understand how you've been feeling, and hey look I also was naughty and had a ciggie :o the other day when my friend was over visiting (I was a social smoker for 10 yrs but gave up a few years ago), just wasn't coping at the time.
Don't be too hard on yourself.
Saw the ring and it looks lovely!!
Hope things improve with Bella too!

Zenifa - DD1 sounds like she's a very happy child, and enjoys daycare. Hope this week it continues. We went and looked at a newly built childcare centre up the road on Saturday. All brand new and people were very friendly, but I can't bear to think about leaving her there yet! What will I do when I have to go back to work!?!?

Yes I've been lucky that DD1 enjoyed her first couple of days at daycare, lets hope it continues this week! I think returning to work is always a tough time on the mum, its lots to organise to get yourself and bubs ready, plus there is the whole going back into your old job stuff to deal with and the emotions of being away from your bub. I was lucky when I went back with DD1, she was with my mum or MIL, so it was easier as she knew them, I trusted them and wasn't away for long, only a couple of hours (from 5mths-10mths) one or two days per week. When DD1 was 10mths, I did a contract for 5mths of 2.5 days/week then I had a break for a few months and worked 3 days/week for 6mths til I had DD2.
I am hoping that I don't have to go back to work til DD2 has turned one! We'll see.
In the meantime, just enjoy your time with DD, dont' worry about work and childcare if you dont' have to yet!

Hi ladies,

Got back on here again (can you believe it!?!) but am feeling a bit sorry for myself lately. Just a bit blergh for no reason (a bit like Zenifa a few days back....). I'm sure I'll get over it but I am just feeling anxious and overwhelemed but really should have no reaason to. Ho hum, sure it'll pass.

:hugs: to you Erin, I can totally relate to how you are feeling. Hope all is going well with Hannah and your DH. Its a big adjustment being a new mother - emotionally, physically, psychologically and I think that often we underestimate that and how long it takes to adjust. It could just be the normal up and down flow of moods, so hang in there, hopefully things will be better soon.
For me, its slowly getting better. I have days when I feel low, unmotivated and others where I am a bit better. I am trying to be kind to myself, get rest, eat and sleep well. I am also trying to enjoy the girls, but it can still be quite demanding at times.
Take care

Shakey

15-01-2008, 10:22

Morning guys :wave: havn't been in here for a while so got alot to catch up on

nothing much going on here, i've been feeling really down too lately, I can't quite put my finger on whats causeing it, me thinks its alot of things that has been building up, hopefully i'll start to feel myself soon

I took DD to her paed appt yesterday, she's doing well for growth, for her age she's on the 25th percentile but if you correct her age she's just about the 50th so they are happy with that, we've finally got a appt for her ECG to be done, so that will be done at the end of this mth, so that will be good,

just a queston for ya's all, is anyone's babies starting to reach out for things yet? or play with toys?

mum_inlove

16-01-2008, 08:19

Hi everyone...!!

How are we all doing? Haven't been here for ages, but been reading and keeping up :yes:

Some personals..

Jude- I love your tattoes...!!! I really want tattoes of the childrens' name, but I'm too scared of needle. Might get dh to get them, lol.

Saremc- Congratulations (I must be a bit late here), and your ring is absolutely gorgeous!:yes:

Zenifa- Great to hear your dd is settling well at daycare. I'm planning to send ds for one day as well, but was having a guilt trip. So it's always nice to hear that they love it.

Mrsgreen663- Omg, twice a day!I'm with the other ladies here, can't let dh read your post. Dh was lucky to get once a week, lol. But it's starting to look up in that department :D Hopefully things' are getting better with Afrika. Have I told you how pretty her name is? Well, it is..

TrulyBlessed- I would love to have dd to sleep for 2-4 hours during the day. Dd is a great sleeper at night, but not so good during the day. She doesn't cry or stuff, just a catnapper during the day. Olivia is starting to 'play' with her toys. Well when she's on the play mat, she put her hands up and laugh and smile. She can hold the toys on her bouncer, but I think it's only because it's within her reach.

laurannson- What a clever little boy you have!! Olivia is also sleeps until 5am after her dream feed at 9pm, so I can't really complain. Would love her to wake up at 7am tho'. Now now, I'm being greedy :laughing:

Seejay- you're doing great with what you're doing now. Olivia will also only take one breast, the left one, she doesn't like the right one coz it's always too fast for her. So I express from the right one :yes:

I can't remember who else, so sorry if I missed you..

Well, Olivia is also doing well. She's been sleeping in the cot in her own room for a week now. And somehow she sleeps better. I think she's pretty much in a routine. She'll go to bed at 7pm, I'll give her dream feed at 9, and she'll sleep until 5.30-6am. So I've been feeling soooo much better. Ds loves her, but sometimes he's a bit too smothering for her. I mean, if you get 20 kisses in like 2 min, wouldn't you go crazy? Lol. I've been trying to keep busy and ds entertainmed (sp?). So we've been going to heaps of playgroups, mothers group, parks, shops..lol Olivia is 12 weeks old now, but she still doesn't show any sign she'll roll over soon. I'm pretty sure that ds was much earlier than 12 weeks. But hey, at least, she's happy and healthy.

Me and dh are thinking to start a bussines, and we come up with a baby shop, as there's no baby shop in our town, the nearest one is about 35kms away. So we'll be rich :devil6:. I'm very excited as I always want to have a baby bussines, so hopefully..We're busy trying to get in contact with heaps of ppl. But I was a bit teary coz I realised that when that day come, I'll have to go back to work 5 days a week, at least until the bussines is well established. But we'll keep you update!

Well, that's all for now..have a great day, ladies!

AnD05

16-01-2008, 12:25

:wave:

Wow, so much to catch up on!

Catalyst - Phew that must of been scary (re: preg test) hope things pan out how you want them too. Love the tats!!!! Well done!!!:yes:

SeeJayElle - Well done on the BF front! You must be pleased. I hope she warms to that left one for you soon, the expressing in the mean time sounds like a good idea. BF certainly is a persistance game sometimes, my DS is a very fussy feeder and often screams/just doesnt want to eat/doesnt eat a lot....etc,etc, and Im never sure what Im in for at feeding times. Ive said a few times to my DH that Im over it and just want to FF but then DS will go through a good patch again plus I don't even know if things would change on formula, I think he's just a fussy little man!! Anyway, keep up the great effort, you're doing a great job!!

Saremc - I got to the same point you did back on NewYearsEve and took DS and myself off to the Drs to get some help. I now have DS on Zoton for his reflux and Im finding that gripe water is helping him get his wind out. I too had tried Infacol and Bruars but it just wasnt doing the trick. Now that the Zoton has kicked in (in did take about a week) he is soooo much happier! He does still fuss a bit with feeding but I think thats just him wanting to run the show, not because he's in pain. Let us know how you go and don't feel bad for having a vent, this mothering business is tough work! I though teaching 50 kids was hard but thats nothing on this job!!! Take care of yourself.

Mischief - katelyn sounds like she is coming along in leaps and bounds!! Hope you had success with your spring clean too, I have to go through my wardrobe and remove all the maternity clothes that are still all hanging up!!

Erin - Hope you are feeling better soon. Its not nice going through 'down times'. Maybe a lovely massage or pedicure would help :D

Jo - Sorry to hear you aren't feeling great either, maybe some special 'you' time would help too? Great to hear about DD's weight and check up going well, and that you've got an appt for her ECG, good luck with it.

MumInLove - Wow, starting a business how exciting! Busy times ahead, keep us updated won't you! Glad to hear Olivia is sleeping so well, lucky you!! DS still doesnt understand that mummy needs more sleep!!

Well DS is now awake so BBL for an update on us...

A

zenifa

16-01-2008, 16:41

Hi ladies!! Just a quick post from me as I can hear DD1 stirring after her nap. It has been a busy day for me, took the girls to the library and went for a playdate at the local playcentre.
Also took DD2 to the CHN, as its been a while .....last saw her over a month ago :o
The good news is that DD2 is thriving:smiliedance:, she's now over 15 weeks, and weighs 7.3kg, and is 63.5cm long and her head is 40cm :yelclap:

Its been a great day, better go and see what my girls are up to!! Hope you are all doing well!!

zenifa

16-01-2008, 16:45

just a queston for ya's all, is anyone's babies starting to reach out for things yet? or play with toys?

My DD2 loves her little playgym, its a simple old style one with some clowns hanging off it (if she pulls one of them it plays twinkle twinkle little star) and some plastic looped rings. Also she loves the little toys on her rocker that she can hit or kick and they spin around.
She has a wrist rattle and another that she can hold, but she doesn't really know what to do with them yet.

One of her Xmas presents is a Safari Roller, which is a plastic inflatable cylinder with some bells/balls inside and she can lean on it (tummy time position), and with her legs push off a bit and roll backwards and forwards, or just rest on her knees - that is a big hit!!:smiliedance:

Sometimes she will reach for toys and can play a bit. Often DD1 plays with her toys and tries to show her how to play eg. Peek a boo blocks, soft cuddly toys and the soft plush story cube.

michblb

16-01-2008, 19:53

Hi ladies

Haven't been on for ages so hi to every, hope mums and bubs are going well. Caught up with the goings on last week and did a big post with personals but just before I posted, the computer lost it.:geek:

Everything going really well, Charlie now sleeps 6 to 7 hour stints for the last week or so, yeah:yelclap: Did absolutely nothing different, she just started doing it herself. We do the last feed at about 10/11pm and then she wakes at 4.30. Doesn't cry but I can hear her talking so get up and give her a feed, then she sleeps again until 7am, yeah! It's been a long, tiring 3 and a half months!!! Feeling so much better and still napping during the day so getting awsome sleep.

Been really busy, due to go back to work in 8 weeks:no: so don't want to. Can't find any child care, it is madness! Also been organising Charlie's baptism for May so been going to church which my friends and family think is v funny for me cause I'm not religious although DH is Anglican (which is what she'll be). Have DSSs for school holidays and they've been at MILs this week, and with me next week so will be busy.

Am gonna post this now, incase I lose it and will then do some personals.

michblb

16-01-2008, 20:16

Zenifa, sounds like u r busy as usual. Charlie loves her play gym too, it has lights and music but I find it over-stimulates her so i just put her under it and atm she loves stuffing the toys in her mouth. Am going to Toys r us tomorrow so will look for the Safari Roller, it sounds like fun. Charlie rolled herself a couple of times but hasn't done much since. She gets halfway then stuck, doesn't know whether to go back or forward.:laughing: Great stats for X, that is good weight gain.

Anna, hope all is going well for you, look forward to your update.

Mum-inlove We put Charlie in her own cot a few weeks ago and she sleeps so much better too - think we were waking her up. Great you are keeping busy and your business idea sounds fab, definitely a cornered market and what fun a buba shop! It is going to be so hard to leave them to do any sought of work, I get tears just thinking about it.\

Nat, hope Angelina's teeth aren't hurting her too much. Sounds like the TT is going well for Ty and at least Libby is starting to think about it.

Jo, sending you lots of :hugs:, When I was pregers I bought a book and CD called 25 ways to joy and inner peace for mothers (have lost the CD in our big pile) but the book has lots of good mantras, to be said while breathing and relaxing. This one might help you, if u feel like saying it: (Breathing in) I feel the special bond of love that flows between my baby and me growing stronger and deeper everyday. (Breathing out) I feel the strength of this love carrying itself to every cell in my body, nurturing and renewing me...., There are others which are really positive, PM me if u want some more - don't wanna bore everyone!

Erin, sorry to hear you have been feeling blah too, here's lots of :hugs:for you. So glad you came last Friday and hopefully will see you this Friday - somewhere airconditioned!

And just have to say Erin's ring rocks, it's beautiful.

Sara I tried to look at the link to your ring but it didn't work but it sounds spectacular.

Sorry if I've missed anyone, hope all the little bubas are well and behaving! Look forward to getting on a bit more regularly when things settle down. I know I say that every post!

saremc

16-01-2008, 22:22

Hey Guys

Just a quick one on my way to :sleeping:land.

Bella and I went well at the docs im fine but she is worried about Bella weight gain we have her on zortan (sp?) which i hope will go into affect soon! other than that she is fine although she does have a rash just above her "rude" bit and in the last day it has gotten worse. I have been useing creams and changing her heaps i hope it goes away it looks really sore :no: poor buba.

going out tomorrow with my sis to check out Target they are having a baby sale other than that we are good!

Will bbl to do some personals

Sleep well everone!!

SJE

17-01-2008, 08:53

HI everyone

Saremc - The Target sale doesnt sound too bad though some of their gear seems to be a bit overpriced in the first place e.g. $10 for a babies tshirt! Perhaps the sale just brings the prices down to normal. Admittedly they do have some really cute gear. The dresses and sets are lovely. Its a good opportunity to buy gear for next summer.

Michblb - Its great you are getting the bigger gap. Probably would be nice to know what you did to get that:detective:.
:iagree: With you on the work thing. I think I am meant to go back early April. Perhaps there will be a miracle in the next month and we will get a desire to return to work.
How many days are you going to do?
Aiming for the Saturdays here. I was hoping they will let me do a few hours once a fortnight or something.

Zenifa - Wow - they are some great measurements. You gotta be happy with them:thumbsup:

On The BF thing - Bubs is taking both boobies now. Have to really watch the postion on the right one otherwise it really hurts. The first two nights I had to pump afterwards because she didnt empty both boobs.
Last night I considered putting them between a couple of rollers; she just drained me completely. Definately got to get some supply boosters today. I'm already taking fenugreek though the tablets dont seem to be as good as the tea. The tea is appalling to drink.:p

On the TT thing - Its great to hear what every else is doing with this. All is not lost for us yet:fingerscrossed:

Have to go and get DD2 weighed today to see how things are going.

Have a good day everyone:wave:

Grizabella

17-01-2008, 14:31

I got my AF!!:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance: never been so happy!!!!! It has to have been the longest cycle I have ever had!!! 35 days (avg is 30). So going to get Stu snipped ASAP!! Not torturing myself like this again!

It was kinda good actually - the fact I was HAPPY to see AF just cemented the fact that 2 is the right number for us :D

Brion is at his Nanna and Poppy's til Sunday and I have a friends Bday dinner on Sat night and then we are going out! Yay! Stu will be looking after Toran for me.

Gonna go have a cold shower as it's about 40deg here!!!:sunshine:

Grizabella

17-01-2008, 14:32

OMG!! SeeJay!!! Congratulations!!!!! That's wonderful news - you worked SO hard for this!!!:hugs: Have you tried drinking the tea cold? Much easier to scull that way - just block your nose and chug. Maybe you should get your hubby to get you a funnel and chug it that way! ROFL :laughing:

zenifa

17-01-2008, 16:37

Hi everyone, just a quick post from me, as I've got both girls entering the witching hour!!
DD1 had a great day at daycare today, she had a nap for 1.5hrs:smiliedance: and was using the toilet :yelclap: - now if I can only get her to use the loo at home!! Had busy day running a few errands with DD2 and mum. Also went to the GP, have got an infection, which explains why I have felt so lousy in the last week or so.
Just letting you guys know that I will still be around, but won't be posting as much, as I'm scaling back, getting back into my meditation, and spending more time with the girls and doing stuff that I haven't had time to do eg baby books, scrapbooking, plaster hand/foot prints of DD2, card making and creative writing.
Okay now for some personals:

Hi ladies

Haven't been on for ages so hi to every, hope mums and bubs are going well. Caught up with the goings on last week and did a big post with personals but just before I posted, the computer lost it.

Everything going really well, Charlie now sleeps 6 to 7 hour stints for the last week or so, yeah: Did absolutely nothing different, she just started doing it herself. We do the last feed at about 10/11pm and then she wakes at 4.30. Doesn't cry but I can hear her talking so get up and give her a feed, then she sleeps again until 7am, yeah! It's been a long, tiring 3 and a half months!!! Feeling so much better and still napping during the day so getting awsome sleep.

Been really busy, due to go back to work in 8 weeks so don't want to. Can't find any child care, it is madness! Also been organising Charlie's baptism for May so been going to church which my friends and family think is v funny for me cause I'm not religious although DH is Anglican (which is what she'll be). Have DSSs for school holidays and they've been at MILs this week, and with me next week so will be busy.

Am gonna post this now, incase I lose it and will then do some personals.

Great to see you back here Mich and its fantastic news to hear that Charlotte is sleeping longer, 6 or 7 hr stints are great, esp if you can get more sleep.
Good luck finding childcare, preparing yourself for the return to work and organising the baptism, hope you have fun next week with your DSSs, sounds like you will be quite busy!!

Zenifa, sounds like u r busy as usual. Charlie loves her play gym too, it has lights and music but I find it over-stimulates her so i just put her under it and atm she loves stuffing the toys in her mouth. Am going to Toys r us tomorrow so will look for the Safari Roller, it sounds like fun. Charlie rolled herself a couple of times but hasn't done much since. She gets halfway then stuck, doesn't know whether to go back or forward. Great stats for X, that is good weight gain.

Jo, sending you lots of :hugs:, When I was pregers I bought a book and CD called 25 ways to joy and inner peace for mothers (have lost the CD in our big pile) but the book has lots of good mantras, to be said while breathing and relaxing. This one might help you, if u feel like saying it: (Breathing in) I feel the special bond of love that flows between my baby and me growing stronger and deeper everyday. (Breathing out) I feel the strength of this love carrying itself to every cell in my body, nurturing and renewing me...., There are others which are really positive, PM me if u want some more - don't wanna bore everyone!

Sorry if I've missed anyone, hope all the little bubas are well and behaving! Look forward to getting on a bit more regularly when things settle down. I know I say that every post!

I know what you mean about overstimulation, we are lucky our playgym is pretty old, so its simple and not likely to overstimulate her too much. My X still hasn't rolled, but I'm not worried, I like her the way she is at the moment, but it won't be long given her Safari roller action.
That CD you recommended to Jo, sounds very interesting, can you PM some info about it?
I have been reading Sarah Napathli's Buddhism for Mothers, which I thoroughly recommend to any mother (regardless of your religious preference), its a great book and has certainly helped me with a calm approach to my mothering. I am about to start reading her second book, about slightly older kids.

Hey Guys

Just a quick one on my way to sleepingland.

Bella and I went well at the docs im fine but she is worried about Bella weight gain we have her on zortan (sp?) which i hope will go into affect soon! other than that she is fine although she does have a rash just above her "rude" bit and in the last day it has gotten worse. I have been useing creams and changing her heaps i hope it goes away it looks really sore poor buba.

going out tomorrow with my sis to check out Target they are having a baby sale other than that we are good!

Will bbl to do some personals

Sleep well everone!!

Hope you did well in the sales and that Bella's nappy rash improves, ouchy!! I usually use Bepanthen or Sudocream, but if its really bad you can get stuff from the chemist. Good luck!

HI everyone

Michblb - Its great you are getting the bigger gap. Probably would be nice to know what you did to get that
I agree With you on the work thing. I think I am meant to go back early April. Perhaps there will be a miracle in the next month and we will get a desire to return to work.
How many days are you going to do?
Aiming for the Saturdays here. I was hoping they will let me do a few hours once a fortnight or something.

Zenifa - Wow - they are some great measurements. You gotta be happy with them

On The BF thing - Bubs is taking both boobies now. Have to really watch the postion on the right one otherwise it really hurts. The first two nights I had to pump afterwards because she didnt empty both boobs.
Last night I considered putting them between a couple of rollers; she just drained me completely. Definately got to get some supply boosters today. I'm already taking fenugreek though the tablets dont seem to be as good as the tea. The tea is appalling to drink.

On the TT thing - Its great to hear what every else is doing with this. All is not lost for us yet

Have to go and get DD2 weighed today to see how things are going.

Have a good day everyone

Hope the weigh in went well, and that you are feeling better about the breastfeeding!! Great that she is taking both boobies now!! Well done :thumbsup:and good luck boosting your supply, remember to offer her boobie often, as increased demand will lead to increase in supply. Lactaction cookies and fenugreek should also help!
Gosh, its weird hearing you and Mich talking about work, I am so NOT ready to go back to work, hoping I can avoid it until November this year!!

I got my AF!!never been so happy!!!!! It has to have been the longest cycle I have ever had!!! 35 days (avg is 30). So going to get Stu snipped ASAP!! Not torturing myself like this again!

It was kinda good actually - the fact I was HAPPY to see AF just cemented the fact that 2 is the right number for us

Congratulations on getting AF!! That was quite a scare you had there!! My DH has had the snip, and it all went well, he recovered quickly etc. However we still have a few weeks til he's given the all clear, :fingerscrossed: I am not pregnant, as we did take a risk once!!

Better go, as the girls are starting to go nuts!:wave:

SJE

17-01-2008, 20:11

Hi All

I'm glad to hear some good things are happening around here after all the stress of newborns:yelclap:

Zenifa - Good on ya. Get out there and enjoy life:thumbsup:.
Our babies wont be babies for long. Once the time is gone that is it! Work will always be there.
Those cookies sound a heck of alot better than the tea - yucko! Makes my armpits smell like curry too!

Jude - Its jolly awful either way - Tastes somewhere between the back of a postage stamp and what I imagine a dirty sock tasting like:p. After your scare, I'm surprised you didnt chase DH with a pair of hedge clippers to take the entire lot off. At least it has cemented your decision about more kids.

Bubs is about 5.1kg and 58cm. She is following her 25% line so I'm happy with that. Its only really showing 1/2 week of EBM and 1/2 week of BF so its really too early to tell.
Monday will probably a better measure as she will have had a full week of BF.

Grizabella

17-01-2008, 20:31

Cass - sorry to hear about Afrika's weight trouble. Let's hope she doesn't get small enough to warrent nasal gastric tube again.

As for building - you're more game then me! We want a preestablished that needs work. FIL renovates for a living and Stu and I are handy. Much rather do it ourselves at our own pace. As the saying goes If you want anything done....

RE insomnia - crystals can help - sounds silly I know but they can help. A good crystal for insomnia is either topaz or zircpon. And Amethyst and Clear Quartz are good healing stones for babies. Rose Quartz is a wonderful allrounder for children too. Here's a link (http://www.astrologyzine.com/crystal-8.shtml) and one that could help you (http://www.emerginghealth.com.au/crystal_aid.html)

Just make sure you cleanse the crystals before use and regularly afterwards so it gets rid of the negativity it absorbs.

confusd

17-01-2008, 21:19

hello ladies.:D..I am an october mummy but i dont say much in here lol:wave:
dont want to interrupt!!!

i was just wondering a few things
1. have any of your bubbas started rolling yet??
(either rolling from back to front, or front to back or all over!):eek:

and do any of your bubbas have strange obsessions? My DD has this thing where if im snuggling with her she aslways tries to put her hand in my mouth:rolleyes::confused: and snuggle her face into my neck!!!
the face to neck thing is alright but if she cant get her hand in my mouth she goes nuts!!:confused:

Annette xoxo

Grizabella

17-01-2008, 21:36

Hehe Toran doesn't roll as of yet, but he LOVES to snuggle intyo my neck and wrap one arm around my arm and the other around my neck. he pulls a bit on my hair too which I can imagine getting a tad annoying once he picks up in strength!

confusd

17-01-2008, 21:36

Miss Kayla was born with heaps of hair!! i have to wash it every day because EVERYONE (and that includes people i have never met b4) has to touch it...good thing she like having her hair touched!!:yes:

Yeah i thought it was a bit strange, she puts her hand in her mouth all the time but when someone holds her she as to put it in their mouth instead!!:confused:
She can roll from her tummy to her back but she has always had heaps of tummy time.

what age is "normal" to start rolling?

confusd

17-01-2008, 22:18

:rolleyes: Not to mention her face sitting in a pool of vomit lol.

HAHA yeah sometime i wake up to bub winging and being saturated in vomit:barf: not nice at all.

I love the name vayda but then i also love the movie my girl :D

Grizabella

17-01-2008, 22:22

Reminds me of Stars Wars (Darth Vada LOL) But it's not as bad as some I have heard :)

saremc

17-01-2008, 22:48

Hey girls

Had a quiet one here today just did the washing and then went with my sis to check out Target got some great baby savings and i had to contain myself there was so much cute stuff!!

Mrsgreen - im still here and im a first time mum! i do find it hard but i use this as my time lol.
Vayda is an interesting name wow 3 months that is crazy! i hope she is doing well. I hope Afrika starts eating more she must be tiny.

Annette - not sure on the right age but Bella has started to roll from her tummy to her back and today she was close to going back to tummy. join in more we are the same age love to hear more about your buba and how you are going.

Jude - i forgot to say love the tats i need to organise mine as well.

Well have had a start of another gall attack so have had some painkillers which make me sleepy and feel pretty ordinary but no pain! im off tyo catch some more :sleeping: the sleep i had before was awsome!

erinp

18-01-2008, 07:52

Well popping in for a quick catch up; we've had a really busy week and were asked to go out today but decided we need a day at home for some R&R - getting better at saying no, I'm a real 'yes' person and go along with whatever people say.... Hmm Cass maybe the first time mums aren't posting cause they're out more? It's easier to get out and about with only one and I know I am enjoying it as I won't be able to do it once No2 comes along!!

Hannah is going well. Not sure about growth, haven't had her weighed in over a month now but she's growing so I'm not worried. Still sleeping wonderfully which is nice but like Cass I have insomnia troubles and find myself lying awake for hours in the middle of the night. I'm surviving on that little amount of sleep though so I guess it's ok.

Hannah has her fingers in her mouth every opportunity she can get and this is also how she puts herself to sleep (will not take a dummy).... She is now able to put toys in there too so have been using some lovely teething toys from the fridge which she loves (especially on the really hot days we have had). She rolled over for the first time on Wed night from back to tummy actually - I think she prefers her tummy as she can see more of what's going on. Bit of a nosy parker like her mum :p

Someone asked about 'normal' time for bubs to start rolling....it varies *very* widely; I have known of bubs who could roll from birth, and others don't start till 6mo. Same as with teeth; I have a friend whose DS was born with a tooth yet my cousin didn't get her first through till she was 19mo (verrrry late!).

Zenifa - good to hear you have got yourself feeling a bit better. Enjoy your 'me' time. :fingerscrossed: your one time didn't amount to anything.... I still haven't seen AF (thought it was coming just after Christmas but it didn't....) and we've not been careful either (on the few occassions it's actually happened!!) but we don't really care either way, we figure no2 will happen when it happens and we're ready for it any time be it sooner or later. Mmmm, I think I'm crazy after that last pregnancy! :dizzy:

Which reminds me - :smiliedance:Jude!! You must have been so relieved to see AF!!!!!!

Mich - :yelclap:for the sleeping!! You didn't tell me that yesterday!!!

Cass - sorry to hear Afrika still isn't gaining weight....it's been a long road for you....

SJE - Soooo happy for you that the BF has worked out. You are such a strong woman to have perservered so hard and for so long. Well done.

Nat - hope the TT is coming along ok!!

Sorry if there was more; I can't see any further back but hope you are all well!

TeamAwesome

18-01-2008, 09:44

Morning Ladies,
I had a bit of a melt down this morning. I'm not getting much sleep and clearly not coping, have been asking DH if PIL's could have the kids so that I/we could get a better sleep and hopefully get back on track. I NEVER ask for help like that and unfortuntely he didn't take me seriously (he works with FIL and I've not been able to get hold of MIL to talk to her about it) so I was crying and complained to him this morning over it when he rang to see how I slept.
It's not that I'm having issues with Angie I honestly don't mind that she wakes up in the early hours of the morning. She sleeps well between 6-8hrs then back to sleep until 7/8am. It's pretty easy I quite enjoy it being able to feed her and have cuddles without the other two trying to kiss and cuddle her while I feed (she's one very loved little bubba) but when Aden's alarm goes off it's right as I've gone back to sleep at 4.45 then the kids have back to waking up around 6am. Plus he was disturbing me last night wanting to cuddle up to me which I normally don't mind but I kept waking up because of it.

So anyhow feeling rather sleep deprived and crabby, he's realised now I do need help he's leaving work early and not working tomorrow either. Feeling a bit better but I really do need the sleep to get back on top of everything.

okay now to think of something good to make me feel better.

Angelina - is just the most beautiful baby, I know that sounds kind of biased but she's such a happy, lovely child. She's so peaceful and content, I love the milky smiles and cuddles. She's been rolled on her back the last few times she's woken up and I don't think she knows how she gets there though.(she's a tummy sleeper) I can already see she's going to be the peacemaker of the kids.

Liberty-we've been having some lovely moments lately (which is bringing a nicer balance to the testing she's been doing). She'll now say "wuv you Mummy" which is just one of those nice things to hear. She came up before and gave me a "huggle" before.

Tybalt- his TTing is going fabulously!!! He filled a reward chart doing wees really quickly (33spaces in 4.5days) and once he fills his new one (which we're only ticking off poos) he gets to go to the toy shop and pick out any toy he wants so far he's done 5 in the toilet no poo accidents this week only a couple of smaller wee accidents where he started but stopped himself and finished on the toilet.:smiliedance:I'm very proud of him.

better post this mamoth post (sorry bout that) and do some personals.

confusd

18-01-2008, 10:08

morning, thought id join in more!!

erinp- just thought id say im a first time mum and i dont post more because most of the time im watching the baby!! I know she cant go anywhere but all the pregnancy and baby books ive read have made me a bit paranoid!! Also little miss Kayla is a real attention bub she hates being in a bouncer if she can sit on you lap

i ended up buying her one of those bumbo seats and usually sit her on the chair next to me.... she loves it!!:smiliedance:

Antlmummy- sorry to here you had a melt down....this may sound bad but im glad to know other people feel that way and its just not me!!:o All my friends are older (the ones that have kids) and seem to just cruise through it while im here going a bit crazy and constantly posting on bub hub asking questions!!:rolleyes:

thought id add in a bit about bubba - she has a runny nose! i feel like such a horrible mummy because she is sick, and all they doctors told me breastfed babies NEVER get sick, but here she is all sooky with a snotty nose.:crying:
she is having a nap atm but i think today will be like tomorrow, having miss kayla constantly hanging of my boob and wanting cuddles (not that i mind the cuddles!:hugs:) (gives me an excuse to skip the house work hehehe:devil6:)

Kayla can roll from her tummy to her back and from her back to her tummy, but it takes her a while to do it so hopefully she doesnt start rolling around for a while!! I already have to get up at night and pull her out of the bars in the cot!

well hope you ladies dont mind me adding myself to your convosation.

annette

TeamAwesome

18-01-2008, 10:20

confusd-welcome and interupt anytime. I babble on about all kinds of stuff, it's nice to have an outlet to those who understand the baby stuff. :laughing:

Jude- yay for AF coming! It's good that it cemented that your two lovely boys are your magic number. So is it off to "Dr Snip" for Stu then?:laughing:

Cass- I hope she start gaining some weight for you, it must be hard with all you have to do just to get the small amount down that you do when the experts only see her for a short time out of the day. You're doing a fantastic job with her!:hugs:

SJE- yay for her taking both breasts you're a champion! :smiliedance:Good on you for sticking it out!

Mich- yay for the longer sleeps! A lot of babies do figure it out on their own and so much better for you if they do. So would your answer to having another baby be a little different now that Charlie is sleeping better?

hmm that's all I remember. have a great day girls!

Natalie

TeamAwesome

18-01-2008, 10:28

Annette- just saw your new post. Trust me it's not that they NEVER get sick it's just that they are less likely to get sick and if they are will probably not be as sick for as long. if that makes sense. Baby balsam and Eucky bear rub are my favs for when bubs have a runny nose. If you don't have one the fess little noses drops and sucker thing can really help too! You're right it's nice to know not everyone has it together but I personally think we have to much pressure to be the perfect mother. I personally cope with a lot of stuff so when I ask for help it's a pretty big deal. My DH often works away or really long hours to provide for us so I feel a bit bad for my meltdown but it's tough trying to do it all and you know what we dont' have to and we shouldn't have to.

I really hope you have good support from family and friends you can take up if you need it cos while I've done it without my DH a lot I realise it's much tougher to do it totally alone.

Natalie

zenifa

18-01-2008, 10:52

Hi Ladies, just a quick post from me, while I bf DD2. DD1 is in daycare today, so I have a little BH time.

Glad to hear some of you are getting some more decent sleep. My kids sleep 12 hours, unfortunately I am lucky to be able to get more than 3. I have been trying some natural sleeping stuff lately, not sure if it is working though. Anyone else out there have any insomnia tips?

I find it quite interesting a lot of the first time mums rarely pop in here anymore, and those with more than 1 seem to be in here regularly, lol.

Sorry to hear that Afrika still isn't taking much milk, hope this improves and her weight gain increases.

Good luck with your house plans, sounds very exciting. One of the things on my to-do list is to get some people in to do a valuation of our house, as we want to review our mortgage, check out the equity and get an investment property. I am trying to convince DH that we should buy a bigger house for us and the kids, and rent out this one as an investment.

Sorry to hear your aren't sleeping well - have you tried Valerian (supposed to be non-addictive and natural)? For me I use positive visualisation, relaxation via meditation or self hypnosis to help me relax, unwind, clear my mind and help with getting to sleep. Could be something worth trying? Do you read before bed? Remember that tv, computer etc are quite stimulating, so a bath, warm milky drink or a massage from DH when he is home could help!!Sending you some :sleeping: vibes!!

hello ladies...I am an october mummy but i dont say much in here lol
dont want to interrupt!!!

i was just wondering a few things
1. have any of your bubbas started rolling yet??
(either rolling from back to front, or front to back or all over!)

and do any of your bubbas have strange obsessions? My DD has this thing where if im snuggling with her she aslways tries to put her hand in my mouthand snuggle her face into my neck!!!
the face to neck thing is alright but if she cant get her hand in my mouth she goes nuts!!:confused:

Annette xoxo

Welcome Annette, feel free to join in anytime!! My DD1 started rolling around 4 mths, my DD2 is now nearly 16 weeks and no signs of rolling yet. On her back, she can wriggle 90 degrees, loves tummy time, but seems in no hurry to roll and I'm relieved!!

DD2 is obsessed with my boobs (as you can tell from her weight, she is 7.3kg!), she is always looking at them (people have even commented), and she often is putting her hand down my top, trying to undo my mat bra and she always holds/grabs them, even when she isn't feeding.........she's not called our 'boobie monster' for nothing:laughing: She also likes nuzzling into my neck and pulling my hair, but she is just so adorable!!

Nat :hugs: sorry to hear about your meltdown, its natural to feel like that when you have 3 kids to care for and you are living with interrupted sleep and virtually no family support! take care and hopefully DH can give you some time to catch up on sleep and care for the kids!!

Erin -great to see you back here, let us know if are pregnant again!! Sounds like Hannah is much like my Miss X, no dummy but loves her hand in her mouth.
Hope you can get more sleep too.

Gotta go and burp this bubba, bye:wave:

Shakey

18-01-2008, 10:56

Morning everyone

Nat sorry to hear your having a bit of a rough time at the mo, its hard with you've got others to look after isn't it, like Ange, Alexis is the most placid and loving baby ever, she's so easy to look after, its DS thats proving to be a bit of a handfull at the mo, so I can imagine what its like for you to have another one to look after on top of that ((((HUGS)))) hope you get some well earned sleep soon, oh and yay for Ty and his TT, he's getting there

Jude yay for AF :smiliedance: best ya get Stu nutered as soon as possible, with everyones preggy scares lately, I told C that he best get himself tested (he was snipped 17wks ago) so he needs to get it done, we dont' want to have another baby at the mo, I have horrible horrible pregnancies, so another right now would be the end of the world just about, its just way too stressfull

confusd welcome, your DD is such a cutie, feel free to pop in here when ever, oh btw i'm on the gold coast too

SJE you go girl, good on you for persevering, you've done a fab job, you've got a very cleaver DD there, managing to finally breast feed after all this time on EBM, you've done well chick

erinp its nice to stay home every now and then isn't it, i'm one that likes to go out lots, I just don't have the ablity at the mo (having no car and all) I hate being a homebody, I get cabin feaver real bad

saremc I havn't checked out the sales yet, might go there later today, do you know when your going to get your gall bladder seen too? must be horrible getting thoes attacks all the time

MrsG bummer Afrika hasn't gained much weight lately, she's only a little bit smaller than Alexis, Alexis has only been gaining around 100grams a week

umm thats all I can remember at the mo

Shakey

18-01-2008, 11:02

a post from me now

Alexis is doing well, we had her paed appt on monday, they are happy with her, she's gaining weight and growing which is what they want to see, so all good there, the paed we saw on monday isn't usually there, turns out he's the only one that can do a ECG on a baby at the GC hosp, so we're getting one done next thrus, we're still waiting on a appt in brissie, god knows when that will arrive, hopefully before we go to NZ, it will probably be murphy's law and the appt will be for some time while we are away,

Alexis is just about rolling from back to frount, she's quite funny, she gets either her whole body half way over, or she gets her legs all the way over and forgets around her top half, or she flips her top half over and forgets about her legs, she' can twist herself real good lol

AnD05

18-01-2008, 11:49

Hi ladies

Gee so much to catch up on! We have been flat out here. Our trip to Perth went well but was extremely busy and tiresome. I did get in a bit of shopping which I was very pleased about! Had a couple of late nighters (after 12pm) with family bbq's so Im still trying to catch up on some sleep.

Discovered we needed to make DS's room darker and since doing that he has slept better after the early morning feed. Although we are having some issues with the dummy, it's causing him to cat nap during the day leading to an overtired baby in the evening and he's waking up during the night for it. So I rang Ngala (sleep specialists in Perth) for help and yup she said I prob need to get rid of it, will take a few days and a few tears but hopefully not too many! I will give it a go but it's quite hard when your out and about...like Erin I think we need some R&R at home!

The medication is still working well and that combined with the Gripe water seems to be doing wonders!(Saremc I think we have the same medication, let me know how it goes, it did take a gd wk for it to kick in for my DS). DS is a happy baby most of the time which is lovely! He has just started to laugh and giggle which makes me laugh and then he laughs...its so funny!

After saying we need some time at home we are off for a lunch date today with a group of girls from my old work, then to a g/fs house for a 'Learning Ladder' party. Its where you can buy educational toys and books for babies/kids. THen tomorrow night off to a g/fs going away bbq dinner. Should be good, hope DS behaves though, we don't go out much at night with him.

Ok after my :ecomcity: I have run out of time for personals, will try and get back on this arvo or tom for some, sorry!!

Hope everyone going well

A

zenifa

18-01-2008, 12:18

Good luck Anna with the dummy removal, we still haven't managed it yet with DD1 and she's nearly 2.5yrs!! Luckily DD2 doesn't like them.

Just thought you might find this amusing. After my last post, I was burping DD2 which was fine, then I switched sides and continued bf. She them proceeded to do a massive poo - filled her nappy, leaked onto her clothes, my shorts, the chair and carpet!! While I was cleaning that up, she did a little :barf: :laughing:

Then I tried to do the plaster hand/foot prints and just as I was about to start (after moulding the plaster), she :barf: on it!! Cleaned it up and finally after a couple of practice runs, good a good inprint of her hand foot!!:yelclap:

After all of that, she's now :sleeping:
Might go and do some baking (going to a friends for afternoon tea tomorrow), and then when my little darling wakes up its bathtime!!

Enjoy your day ladies!!

confusd

18-01-2008, 12:42

My DD hates dummies ive tried to get her to take one but nope she wasnt having any of it.

Zenifa- with the plaster foot prints did you just use plater of paris (sp?? is that what its called?)
some one told me to use moulding clay but its just to hard even after heating it her feet dont make an imprint!:confused:

zenifa

18-01-2008, 13:26

I called it plaster, but really its a type of moulding clay. You shape it first and then you put the hand and foot prints on it. You let it dry/set and then you can used a coloured chalk to further highlight the imprint.
I got a kit as a present when DD1 was born and this time I was lucky to find one whilst Xmas shopping and the one I'm using has a photo frame as well (only cost $10, bargain)!!

laurannson

18-01-2008, 14:36

Hello all-hope everyone is well!!!!!

Samuel has started waking again at night,actually fed him 2x overnight,but since it has been so hot over here-I am giving him a little leeway!!!!!!!;)

He shows absolutely no signs of rolling over,and quite honestly is hopeless at tummy time-he usually has a quick look around and then lies face down and cries!!!!!!!Due to his size(!!!)though-it looks like he doesn't have a neck,just rolls of fat..........so we will persist!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laughing:

Other than that he continues to be an absolute joy,very happy and content!!!!:kiss:

My DH keeps pestering me to give him water during these hot days instead of BF him when he looks thirsty......has anyone given their bubs much water yet-if so how much?!?!?!?!:confused:

We have had a busy week-trying to fill in the days until school goes back-DD2 starts kindy this year-2 days a week,and she(and I!!!)are definitely ready for her to go!!!!!:D

DD1 is ready to go back as well,and see all her
little mates-we have done quite a few playdates-but I really have to psych myself into it as my house is busy enough just with my 4!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I have to go as Samuel is waking up for a feed-will try and get back on tonight!!!!
Cheers!:flowerz:

confusd

18-01-2008, 14:44

hello!! hehe i just keep popping in... Kayla is sleeping alot today cause she isnt well..if you didnt notice the computer is my retreat! its in a separate room and its nice and quite in here!;)

- yeah i got moulding clay but as i said its just to hard i did one foot print (it only just worked and if i squished her foot into it any harder i would of hurt her!) and used a stiff bristled brush and ink to make it stand out more, it looked really good but i cant get her hands in!!

laurennson- ive tried to give my DD water but she doesnt drink. if its a really hot day i express some breast milk and add a bit of water to it...

TeamAwesome

18-01-2008, 15:26

Hi Ladies,
Thanks for the hugs and support. Yes Aden is going to be giving me a break, he understands my meltdown and is on his way home as I type and should be home in about 30 mins hooray! I'm feeling much better this afternoon which is good.
He plans on taking the kids to a local park in the morning (so long as it's not raining which it seems to be doing every other day so hopefully it won't be) so Angie and I can have a nice sleep in which will be lovely! The kids miss him too and tend to play up a bit when they don't get very much daddy time so will be nice for them too. We're also planning on going down to this water pool/park thing by the beach in the afternoon which will also be nice (sorry I'm not very descriptive but I don't know much about it) it's not something I can do on my own with 3 littlies.

Anyway I have to go put the vegies on for dinner but just wanted to come let you know I'm doing better. Looking at the positives sure can help!

Natalie

michblb

18-01-2008, 17:36

Hi ladies

Just a quick post, well jinxed myself by saying how good the sleep was:laughing: had to get up 4 times last night, serve me right!! Charlie skipped a bottle yesterday cause she had a few :barf: and was out of sorts so she kept waking up at 2am, then 3 cause she was hungry. Just gave her a little bottle then she slept well. Today she has been good taking all her bottles every 3 hours, like Erin we had a lovely day at home, she feeds and sleeps so much better than when we are out. Going for her 4 month shots tomorrow morning :no: and then having some friends over for a BBQ early evening, which will be nice.

Have a lovely weekend everyone. Won't do personals cause it's feed time but can I just say :hugs: to you Nat, glad you are feeling better and getting a bit more help from Aden. And to answer your question re no 2, hhhmmmm jury still out on that one!

michblb

18-01-2008, 19:07

Mich how can you get the shots done tomorrow? To get the rebate thingy for them you have to have them done calendar monthly (by calendar dates, not by weeks), so since she was born on the 26th she wouldn't be able to have them until at least the 26th, and if she had them after the 26th at her 2 month ones she shouldn't be able to have them until 2 calendar months from that date :confused: Did they put in your next book when you had the last ones done when the earliest is you could go for the next ones?

Thanks Cass, I didn't know that. From memory she had her 2 month shots a week early but the book is in the nursery where Charlie is sleeping so can't look now but will check in the morning before we go, so thanks for the tip.:thumbsup:

When we hadt he last lot done the receptionist booked us in ahead because our gp is good and really hard to get into. They don't charge us, they bill Medicare direct.

michblb

18-01-2008, 19:54

I didn't mean they charge you, but you get something back when they turn 18months (I think, or it might be 2). Can't remember what it's called, immunisation something-a-rather. If you had her last shots early though you won't be eligible for it... most doctors now days won't even let you have them early because of it... at least mine wouldn't because I took Logan in too early for his first lot, and then calculated 4 weeks instead of a calendar month for the next ones so get sent home again lol.

Never heard of it, will check - would be good to be eligibile for at least one of them. Maybe the receptionist didn't know about it?? So if we had them done next Sat on the 26th, we would be ok then?

michblb

18-01-2008, 21:00

Cass, did a google and think it is the Maternity Immunisation Allowance, this is what the Medicare website said � "a non-income tested payment for children, between 18 and 24 months old who have been fully immunised or have an exemption. You must lodge a claim for Maternity Immunisation Allowance on or before your child�s second birthday." So hopefully the date for tomorrow won't matter too much cause she's under 18 month's old, will check with my gp tomorrow and post the answer.

Off to bed, happy sleeping everyone:sleeping: DH is on shift for the feeds but cause he sleeps with ear plugs I'm the manual baby screaming alarm clock - I kick him when she cries.:laughing:

michblb

18-01-2008, 21:04

Thanks Cass, snap:laughing: isn't the medicare website awful, what you posted makes more sense though, oh well, if I'm not eligible so be it.

Shakey

18-01-2008, 21:25

why would you not be eligable??????????

as long as the immunisations are up to date it doesn't matter, you'll still get it as long as you apply for it before they are 2 years old

Shakey

18-01-2008, 21:35

well thats weird then, cause I could get the immunisation allowance for DS and he wasn't even immunised in this country, and his immunisations definatly wern't given him exactly on the day he needed going by calender mths,

Grizabella

18-01-2008, 21:47

nah the reason it has to be calender age not weeks its cos thats how the schedule has been designed. Some vaccines can only be done in a certain window like the gastro one. It can't be done after 14 weeks etc. As long as you have ALL the shots then you get the payment. You just ring centrelink and let them know and they register the child as immunised with the dept and then they give you your payment. If you get them fully immunised AFTER the 18mnth cutoff then you dont get it, even if you are just delaying shots etc they dont class it cos it isn't in the approved time frame.

michblb

19-01-2008, 08:51

Man like anything with bubs we're told 10 different things. :rolleyes:Rang my gp this morning and she said it goes by weeks????so different to what you guys were told. Although Charlie had the 2 month vaccinations 1 day before she turned 8 weeks so might ring Medicare on Monday and double check.

What a shocking night, DH fed her at 10 pm, and she woke up, he couldn't get her back to sleep so by 1 am she was still wide awake ready to :yelclap:. Got up after hearing DH yelling and got her to sleep in 20 minutes, ggrrr. Then she woke up at 4.30am for a bottle, wouldn't take it from DH just :laughing: at him so yep you guessed it she took half the bottle from me, the naughty monkey, then she slept until 6.30.

Shakey

19-01-2008, 10:18

If you get them fully immunised AFTER the 18mnth cutoff then you dont get it, even if you are just delaying shots etc they dont class it cos it isn't in the approved time frame.

thats weird as well, cause with DS I was told by centerlink that I had up till he was 2 to catch up on all the immunisations, if I got them done after he turned 2 then I couldn't get it, maybe its different in perth to what it is over this side

well I had a **** nights sleep last night, I actually went to bed before 12am for once, then DS woke screaming at around 1am, then Alexis wanted feeding at 2am, then she wanted feeding at 4am, in the end I just put her in bed with us, cause I really couldn't be bothered getting up to her all night, we slept alot better, she woke a few times between 5 and 9 this morning, but she would just feed again and then go back to sleep easy as

I think i'm comming down with something, woke up with a bit of a stuffy nose, and generally feeling run down, might see if I can sleep a bit today, dont' like my chances of that happening though, DH is at work again today, and DS doesn't like me trying to sleep during the day

saremc

19-01-2008, 12:29

HI

How is everyone?!

Having a nice quiet weekend just had a visitor, now im just waiting for DF to get ready so we can go to the shops to meet another friend for coffee then we are going to my sisters for a BBQ dinner yummo!

Bella is going well so close to laughing and she is being such a good little girl oh im so in love i have now become addicted to Scrubs and have finnished all the eps of one tree hill lol i do get bored when im feeding bella.

Well im off DF is finally ready lol he is such a woman BBL to see how we are all going.

:ecomcity:

Shakey

19-01-2008, 12:30

Jo that quote I took from the actual centrelink website says 18 months. Maybe you have a difference circumstance because you came from NZ?

yeah I realise that, thats why I rang them to find out for sure, and it didn't matter wether I was from NZ or not, they said its the same for anyone, that was a just about 2 years ago now so they may have changed it, we all know they like changing their minds half a million times lol

Shakey

19-01-2008, 12:37

oh how cool Bella is just about laughing, i'm still waiting for Alexis to laugh, hopefully that will be soon

MrsG thats why I rang, cause of what it said, cause we arrived here after DS was 18mths old, think he was around 20mths old when we arrived, so maybe they have changed it and not changed it on the website, centerlink can be so confusing sometimes, I can't remember what it was now, but centerlink told a friend of mine that she couldn't get something, but I could, turns out she could get what I was getting she had just got a **** uninformed person that didn't know what they were talking about

AnD05

20-01-2008, 19:31

:wave:

Saremc - Yay for Bella almost laughing! DS laughed for the first time a couple of days ago and it was amazing! I wish I could bottle that sound and keep it for when I feel down!

Jo - Hope you are feeling ok and it's nothing too serious. I just spoke to my mum and they think she has pnuemonia (sp?), bugger.

Mich - Sorry to hear you had a rough night the other night, heres hoping tonights a better one!

Things going great guns here. Removing the dummy was the best thing we could have done. And it hasnt been nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Its taking much less time and is having great results, his daytime naps are MUCH better - from 30mins to 1 1/2hrs - and last night we woke twice but put himself back to sleep pretty quickly, I didnt even get to feed him! So :fingerscrossed: this is the beginning of a good thing, although I am not holding my breath.....:detective:

Other than that, a pretty quiet weekend here, didnt plan much just needed a rest. Pretty busy week starting with some babysitting tomorrow for a friend and a visit to the chiro.

Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend!

A

zenifa

21-01-2008, 08:18

:yelclap: Well done Finlay :thumbsup:
That is great news Anna, so glad to hear all went well weaning him off the dummy and that his sleeps have improved, it makes such a difference.

Re:immunisations. My understanding is that the schedule is based on when it is safe to immunise babies, so its not advisable to have them earlier as the side effects can be worse and yes it may affect your payment. In terms of the payment, you can apply for it, after your child has had the 18mth vacc, and you have til they turn 2 to claim it. The payment took a couple of weeks before it appeared in our account.
I once tried to get DD1 immunised a day early and they turned us away and said come next week (the immun clinic comes weekly to our library and I couldnt' be bothered to make a GP appt).

Had a nice weekend - went to visit one of my besties, she's 32 weeks preg with her 1st, its a really exciting time for her!! She has a blessingway in a couple of weeks which will be nice. Lovely to catch up with her.
Also went out to dinner at a fancy restaurant with DH, BIL and SIL (for SIL's b'day which is today). It was lovely to have some time away from the girls, with my parents babysitting!

My week isn't too busy, I've got DD1's swimming lesson tonight, then tomorrow I have a couple of mummy friends visiting. No major plans for Weds, but may take DD1 to the library and Thurs we have a kids b'day party (my friends son is turning 3 and daughter is turning 1, a few days apart so a joint party) and daycare.
Might take DD1 to the park before it gets too hot and then we might do some painting!! I should really get the house cleaned, its been a while!!

I'm starting to get on the mend, my a/b should be kicking in, nearly finished them - feeling okay, not my best but not my worst.

DD2 continues to be a happy content baby:flowerz:, still sleeping 12hrs/night and feeding well. She is loving playing with her toys and smiles/giggles lots (esp at her big sister!!). Not rolling yet, but has started to drool and teethe a bit.

Have a great week ladies!!

Shakey

21-01-2008, 11:10

Things going great guns here. Removing the dummy was the best thing we could have done. And it hasnt been nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Its taking much less time and is having great results, his daytime naps are MUCH better - from 30mins to 1 1/2hrs - and last night we woke twice but put himself back to sleep pretty quickly, I didnt even get to feed him! So :fingerscrossed: this is the beginning of a good thing, although I am not holding my breath.....:detective:

Yay for Finlay :smiliedance: funny I should read this, last night on tv they had some baby wisperer thing on, and one of the things that the lady said was about dummies being a cause of some babies being **** sleepers, i'm glad it worked for you guys

Zenifa glad your feeling a bit better now, whats a blessingway????????

well its all fun and games here lately, Alexis has decided no more sleeping through for her, don't know why, I miss having a decient sleep at night, DS is sick today, he woke up just before 6am very grizzly, then just after 9 this morning he threw up some lovely bright yellow stuff, so i've kept him from preschool today, poor boy he's not a very happy chappy.

and to top it all off, my comp has shat itself, so looks like i'll be getting a new one sometime during the next week, DH got me one of the work lappy's to borrow till he makes up my new one, so at least I can now get back on the net

well hope everyone has a great day today,

Grizabella

21-01-2008, 11:59

Jo - sh!t about your puter! Now hwo do I have to harrass on MSN?? :laughing:

AnD - great news about Finlay! Sounds like he's going great guns without the dummy! Toran isn;t much of a dummy boy - he only likes it occassionally. Fortunately he only like the Happy Baby ones - so that's an expensive habit avoided! We spent sooooo much $$ on Brion's dummies over the yrs! Fortunately he chose his own dummy the other week and he grabbed a cheapie! No more $11 dummies for us!

Zen - Toran is showing signs of teething too. Fists in mouth, dribbling, irritability, chewing on things and his poos are a bit bitey atm. As he isn't on solids and isn't sick I know it isn't change of diet or anything. He's younger then brion was Brion got his first tooth at 5 months.

Both the boys are doing well. Brion is back from a 4 day stay at Nanny and Poppy's. Brion had an absolute blast. He loves staying up there! Brion has his ENT appt tomorrow - so hopefully we get some answers! Toran is growing well, almost in 0's. A friend from Kal came over the other day with her 9 month old and it's scary how big Toran is!! Check it out (keeping mind Toran is 14 weeks): Reagan (baby) Leish, and Toran (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g177/Brions_Mum/Jan2007037.jpg)

zenifa

21-01-2008, 12:10

Jo - a blessingway is a mother centred baby shower, its origins are from the Navajo Indians, where they celebrate a woman's rite of passage into motherhood with this ceremony. Usually it involves a 'womans' circle' where women come together to discuss pregnancy, childbirth related stuff, usually each person brings a bead to thread onto a necklace for the mum-to-be to wear during the labour/birth. Also as each person threads their bead, they give the mum-to-be some +ve affirmations for the upcoming birth. It can also involve giving the mum2b, a massage of her neck/ shoulders/back or feet, to pamper her. There is usually the sharing of food, people bring poems and share lots of advice/tips about labour, birth and life with a newborn. It can be a very positive experience and a real treat for the mum2b. It is a bit hippy new age, but no cheesy baby shower games, its centred much more on providing a loving atmosphere and support to the mum2b.

Jude - yes X is teething, lots of drool, knawing on her hand/fist -luckily she isn't too out of sorts with it.
Yes, your Toran is a big boy, looks like he's doing well. X is in some 000 but now mostly 00, and at 7.3kg she is big and long too!! Hope Brion's ENT appt goes well tomorrow :fingerscrossed:

Shakey

21-01-2008, 13:51

Jo - sh!t about your puter! Now hwo do I have to harrass on MSN?? :laughing:

yeah computers are a pain in the backside sometimes, DHrecon's its the main board thats gone on it, so its a new computer for me, yay, at least i've got a lappy to use, even though its not a very good one, oooh and I just realised its got msn messenger lol, yay for me

oh and tell Toran that he has to stop growing so fast lol, he won't beable to wear the clothes i've got for him, best I send them off lol, oh and good luck for tomorrow, let me know how ya get on

Zenifa thats interesting about the blessingway, sounds like fun, and the bit about the beaded necklace reminds me, must make me a breastfeeding one, I keep meaning to get some beads to do one, just never get round to it

I might just head next door, cause the old man's fire alarm is going off again, better make sure he's alright

saremc

21-01-2008, 23:03

Hi girls

Well have had a nice quiet day, am going to have a buisy one tomorrow have to do the shopping and get Bella wieghed and go to my appointment with the surgeon.

Im really worried about Bella and her weight really hope she has put on some weight but she does seem to be a happy and looks well so spose i will find out.

Im also nervous about the appointment with the surgeon, i really want the stone out i just really dont want to have the op if i have to have one.

Im about to kill DF he gets all ****ty coz he is tired grrr im not his mother if he is tired and Bella and I are just having her last feed for the night soi there is no need for him to be awake grrr sorry for the vent things are just getting to me.

Well im off to dream land will talk to you ladies tomorrow hopefully with some good news about Bellas weight.

sam's mum

22-01-2008, 08:48

hi all, I have been at mum's for a week, haven't had to catch up yet so will read through later and do personals.

Belle has decided (overnight a week ago) to sleep through the night and have 15 min feeds. She is still going 3 to 4 hours between feeds during the day, but is going 7 til 7 at night.

gotta take DD1 to optometrist now, so bbl.

:wave:

TeamAwesome

22-01-2008, 09:38

Hi Ladies,

I hope you all had a good weekend. I'm feeling much better after a bit of r&r with Aden home for a couple of days.

Angelina slept all the way through last night from 6pm til5.30am but I barely slept until it started raining around 12.30 this morning as it was just too hot. She's growing nicely but I have come to realise I really do not have anything in 00 which is what she is in now for this time of year. I have two singlets a t shirt and a pair of pants oh and a nice outfit but it's one of those pretty ones which really aren't so great for the every day, so I have to go get her some more clothes. Now you may be wondering why I have no more 00 clothes for her seeing as I've already had a girl? Well I left all Liberty's 00 clothes in WA as she'd basically outgrown them all when we moved so I'd had to buy new ones and we had no room in the car for them to come with us back to QLD. I swear Ty lasted much longer in 000 then the girls did/have but oh well any excuse to go shopping right?;) I think I might make it a mum and bub excursion on Thursday night or even just a me excursion if bub's been fed and gone down happily.
OOPs feeding time I'll try to bbl to do personals.

Natalie

Shakey

22-01-2008, 10:27

morning everyone

Nat, you should go to target either today or tomorrow, they have a big sale on their baby clothes at the mo, i'm going to head there soon, to see what I can pickup for next year, I don't need anymore clothes for Alexis at the mo, i've got 2 large plastic boxes of clothes to go through, should last her till the end of the year hopefully

sam's mum yay for Belle sleeping though, you must feel so good having all this sleep now

saremc good luck with today, hope your appt goes well, and :fingerscrossed: for bella gaining lots of weight

AnD05

22-01-2008, 13:37

:wave:

Nat - Glad you are feeling more rested, now you take on the world! Yup I agree with Jo, you need to visit a Target very soon, they reduced all their summer stock by 20% and then you take another 40% off that. I went nuts and bought DS a stack of stuff for next summer, I just couldnt help myself, the bargains where just too good to leave behind. I also bought stuff for my niece and nephew.

Sam's mum - :smiliedance:for Belle sleeping so well! Are you managing to get some decent sleep too? Hope you had a lovely time at your mums!

Saremc - Good luck with everything today. Im sure Bella's weight will be fine. I hope your surgery works out too, you've had a pretty rough trot health wise :hugs:.

Zenifa - So glad to hear DD2 is still doing so wonderfully! And I hope your a/b are doing the trick.

Things here are still going well. DS is going down around 7pm and usually then waking once around 3am but goes back to sleep pretty quickly without a feed and then goes through till 8am. Hopefully he won't wake up at 3 for too much longer. I didn't realise it would be so hard for me to give up that early morning feed, the first time it happened I felt very strange the next day, not boobie wise but emotionally, like Id lost something, strange I know!

Spent yesterday helping a g/f get ready for a stall she is setting up at our local fair thingy here tom night. Each year they block off a couple of the main streets and it's full of stalls and food and entertainment etc. We will pop down for a look around but its always soooo busy!

Not doing too much today, getting a quote done for a pool fence and will prob pop into town to do a few things.

Hope everyone doing well,

A

4tiggers

22-01-2008, 15:00

HI, sorry to intrude. My little one came a couple of weeks early so is now a Oct bub and 12 weeks old (I usuallly hang around the Nov thread but all of the bubs there are younger than mine). I have noticed that my bub still wont reach out to grab anything. His eyes follow moving objects but his hands just seem to fly around every where unless they are in his mouth. Is this normal ? Any advice or help would be appreciated. I have noticed that he is fairly laid back and relaxed, could he be lazy. Thanks for any help offered.

sam's mum

22-01-2008, 15:47

Seejay � congrats on BF working, I had a lot of trouble feeding at the start too, and Belle fed off the right side for a week before she got the hang of the left. It is so good once it is all working isn't it? no worry about needing to express, just feed whenever, wherever.

Mischief � you were saying about babies copying mouth shape, my sister kept sticking her tongue out at Belle, and Belle copied her and started sticking hers out too.

Truly blessed - in the last couple of weeks Belle has started to hold her toys when you give them to her, and in the last day or so will actually grab for them to play. Sam loves to bring toys to her and give them to her.

Laurannson � it is my understanding that breast fed babies don't need water on hot days because your breast milk becomes more watery to compensate, they also feed more often if they need it in the heat.

Toilet training - Sam is sometimes undies boy, sometimes nappies boy, he gets the idea, he just isn't very good on the execution.

Return to work - I am due to go back to work in September, unless we win the lotto I won't be able to defer it. It is hard leaving the kids, it didn't bother Sam as much as it did me though. I am hoping that Belle will be the same.

Belle has been sooo vocal, it is hilarious. Her face looks as though she is having a conversation, but it is nonsense. She has started to laugh too. I love the big belly laughs that kids do.

we are decorating Belle's room this weekend, need to go and pick paint and wall deco's this week ready for DH to do the painting.

TeamAwesome

22-01-2008, 15:52

HI 4tiggers! Welcome to our thread never feel like you're intruding and always feel free to ask Q's! Contraulations on your baby boy!!
That all sounds normal to me! It takes a while for them to learn to properly control their arms and legs, some longer then others, their hands to their mouths is a pretty early step in developing that control. You'll probably notice he'll start to put his hands together soon, it'll probably almost be by accident that he discovers he can do it but eventually it'll be a mastered skill and he'll be on to new things like putting toys into his mouth! I used to tell people about what my first was up to but by then he was on to mastering and conquering the next thing.
I doubt he's lazy being laid back and relaxed, I'd say he's probably a placid baby who enjoys watching the world go by and learning by watching you! A friend of mine's first wasn't interested until he was 9mo, they all do it in their own time! Trust me, the longer they stay in the one place the better! If you're seriously concerned definitely ask your GP or CHN about it and as I said never feel silly for asking.

Jo and Anna - thanks for the advice about the target sale we never get junk mail anymore or if we do it's like the day before the sale finishes which as you can imagine is not very helpful.

Jo- hope your DS is feeling better today, it's not good when that happens.

Anna- yay for getting rid of the dummy and the awesome sleeps, it's great when they can self settle like that!!

Jude - YAY for time with the grandparents for Brion! How did Brion's ENT appointment go?

Saremc- I hope your appointment went well. A friend of mine had the same Op it was keyhole (I assume that's the standard these days) and I'd reccomend if you need it make sure you have lots of help for after you come home... she thought it was would pretty straight forward only tiny holes etc but pushed herself too much afterwards. I hope everyone's happy with Bella's weight gains. Some weeks they don't seem to gain too much which is part of the reason I really only do a monthly weigh for Angelina.

Sams's mum - did you enjoy your time at your mum's? Yay for Belle sleeping through! I hope unlike me you're getting the extra sleep as she's sleeping too! How exciting to do up her room! If you want the Disney Princess or Winney the Pooh theme they have some stuff at Big W from paint colours to decals (or at least they do at my local one)

well have to go start dinner as my kiddies seem to have worked up an appetite today!

Natalie

ETA: a Question for all you Ladies after reading the thread on bellies in the photos section how do you girls feel about your bodies since giving birth?

4tiggers

22-01-2008, 16:14

Antimummy, thanks for answering my question, your advice is appreciated. I will need to remember they all are different, it is just confusing when the baby books give ages and stages that dont coincide with my little one. Thanks again for being willing to answer.

Shakey

22-01-2008, 16:16

Nat i'm fine with my body, I think I look fab concidering I don't do any exercise (apart from the odd walk down to the mall to do a bit of shopping lol, i'm back down to my pre preg weight (not quite the same size though, but I was a size 8 so was tiny) overall i'm happy as, just got to get rid of the love handles (you know the bit just above my hips) then i'll be right, oh and I got to get a tan too, i'm pastey white at the mo, I didn't get any streatchmarks so i've been lucky

4tiggers welcome to our thread, how early was bubs? my DD was a few weeks early, and is a bit behind everyone elses's baby, but is on par really going by corrected age, although i'm still waiting for her to laugh (which I think she's close to cause when I tickle her its like she goes to laugh but nothing quite comes out yet) oh and she's just about ready to roll :smiliedance: I think if I give her heaps of floor time she'll probably be rolling by the end of next week, she just about rolls onto her tummy in her cot, everytime I go in there she's on her side just about all the way over

Nat I just got back from the target sale, and OMG what bargins, I got a pair of pants for $2.90, another 2 pairs for $5.90 for both, a denium pants and top set for $7.50, I got $50 worth of stuff for just over $16, i'm going to go back on thursday and get some more stuff, i've been buying size 1's so they should do her this time next year

AnD05 good to hear the little man is sleeping good these days, :fingerscrossed: he continues to do so, have fun tomorrow at the fair thing, sounds like fun

Grizabella

22-01-2008, 20:00

Hey guys

ENT appt went well - Brion has glue and needs grommets. so he should be getting that done in a month tops :) It explains to lack of speech and grumpiness/overtiredness as well as the ear infections.

Be back later to do personals.

mischief79

22-01-2008, 20:57

I'm baaaaaccccckkkk..... I feel like I haven't been in here in ages! Bub hub takes up a lot of time! Everytime I jump on the computer, I end up looking in all sorts of areas and threads, and then when I go to come in here it's time for me to get off. I have missed chatting with others who know what stage I'm at!

I've read the last pages and there's no way I can catch up on personals! Welcome to the newbies.... never feel like you're intruding, everyone is welcome for a natter!
Katelyn is TRYING to roll over. She digs her heels in and throws her hips up and over, but she can't figure out the shoulders yet. That's fine with me, I'm in no hurry for her to start moving around.
She was pretty grumpy for a few days last week, which is really out of character for her, she's usually so happy. She was feeding all day and sleeping on and off but she';s over it now thank goodness. She's pretty much sleeping 9pmish until 7amish. at about 4-5am she starts to wake up and I race into her room and shove her dummy back in her mouth and she drifts off for a few more hours. I just need to start going to bed earlier now.

I've been thinking about going back to work *shock horror*. I dont want to, but DH is doing 12 hour days, sometimes 7 days a week and it's just not the same as two incomes. What may happen is I go back one day a week and my sister stays to watch Katelyn. It's only one day, but it should help. I can't stick to the budge we have now!! But thats a last resort, so we;ll see.

Katelyns fingers have become an extension of her mouth. Everytime I turn around all I can hear is sucking. She looks cute though. If i pull them out she gives me a cheeky grin and sticks them back in. Oh well.....

We have a CHN check up tomorrow. Haven't had her weighed since 6 week check but looks like 6.5kg - 7kg by jumping on the scales with her. tried with a tape measure too and maybe 65cm? healthy enough anyway.

Tonight, I'm going to try and be in bed by 10pm. Here's hoping!

saremc

22-01-2008, 21:12

YAY for Belle sleeping through :yelclap:

Sare gl with Bella's weighing today. Don't stress about it too much, if they fall off the chart they just give you a perscription for some calorie drops and they stack the weight back on. She must be gaining something though otherwise they would have sent you to a paed for the drops straight away:confused: Afrika has only gained 200g since she was 2.5 months (she is now 4.5). I have a referral for a paed I am just putting it off for another couple of weeks though. You would think if they were hungry they would drink hey.

Thanks she still hasnt put on weight, but she does seem to feed well and often. :iagree: they would drink if they were hungry. Im getting my gall bladder out on on 5 of Feb so im going to be buisy pumping and storeing and the great thing is Bella can stay with me in hospital :smiliedance: and i can still feed her all i will have to do is pump before and then after and discard then im right for the next feed yay.

Had a nice day visiting some friends then did the grocery shopping and then to my appointment such a big day but Bella was just great she is soooo cute.

Well better go and get desert (banana and marshmallow skeweres with choc dipping sauce) mmmmmm yum!

4tiggers welcome congrats on your buba. Dont worry too much he will do it in his own time. Hope you are coping with mother hood its so wonderful isnt it!

Jude great to hear about Brion hope it all goes well must be a load off to find out what is going on and that there is sometihing that can be done.

AnD05 great to hear about the sleeps!

Antlmummie good to hear you are doing better a bit of rest goes along way.

sam's mum great to hear about Bella having a chat buba does that as well soooo cute! Ohhh decorating the room! will need to see some pic of the finnished product!

Hope you are all well! :flowerz:

laurannson

22-01-2008, 22:04

Hi everyone-just wanted to pop on and say hello-everytime I try to get on the computer to read what has been happening either the kids come and get me,Samuel wakes up or the phone rings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ecomcity:
So once again I have fallen behind what has been happening-hope everyone is well-will try and read back over the last few pages tomorrow!!!!!
Thankyou for your replies on breastfed babies drinking water-I was getting a bit confused!!!!:confused:

Samuel is still a delight-sleeping through most nights,and the few times that he has woken up it has been a quick feed,and straight back to sleep!I had decided to cruise along with him and not force the sleeping issue,and thankfully he has picked it up pretty quickly....maybe he could sense how bad I cope with lack of sleep!!:p

I will be very pleased when school goes back for DD1,and DD2 starts kindy,so that will be very cute!!2 down .....2 to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:smiliedance:
Anyway I have jinxed myself as Samuel has woken up,so will try and get back tomorrow-take care everyone!!!!:hugs:
Cheers!:flowerz:

4tiggers

23-01-2008, 08:56

saremc, I LOVE LOVE LOVE it. Even the constant smell of vomit that always is on me. Thanks.

Trulyblessed. He was only 2 weeks early. He took a little longer to smile so maybe that couple of weeks does effect them. I try and give mine tummy time but he gets so frustrated so quickly that I havent seen a hint of rolling yet. He is perfectly content to lie on his back and watch the world go by. I should be pleased, he will be my only baby. Thankyou for responding to my question.

You Oct mummies are so nice, maybe that is why mine came in this month. :smiliedance:

michblb

23-01-2008, 16:25

Hi all

Really quick one as I have DSSs 1 and 2 here for the school hols and things are just mad - I take my hat off to all those with more than one bub, how on earth do u do it fullt ime?

Finally got around to ringing Medicare and Centrelink, although Cass you've prob already found out!:D You still are eligible for the Maternity Immunisation Payment if you get the immunisation a bit early but if the gp is linked with the Immunisation schedule people (not sure if they are located in Medicare or Centrelink??) and you get the shots done early then it will show the child as not being immunised so you just need to ring up and tell them that the child has had all their shots and you get the payment. I'm sure we'll get 10 different versions of this though, that's what I was told! :laughing: Hope that makes sense.

Charlie is teething already, they are coming through on her lower gum. OMG this baby does bloody everything early. She isn't screaming but has been chomping on everything. Have got the Bonjella (sp?) ready though. Charlie only started sleeping 6/7 hours through the night about a week ago so I'm praying she doesn't start waking up because of pain, that would be so cruel.:fingerscrossed:

Also she won't sleep at all when we are out except in my arms, not even the pram. She is so inquisitive that she will stay awake until she is screaming in tiredness but won't sleep until I pick her up. Have tried not to do it much but then I end up with the crankiest baby who is so overtired it takes us hours to get her to bed (which has never been a problem before). Anyway I just make sure she has one good nap of about 2 hours before we go anywhere and then we only go out for a few hours. Is this happening for anyone else?

Other than that just super tired as still doing night feeds but no :sleeping:during the day. I tried a few times but the baby would cry, then I would hear the boys, so have given up and just guzzle coffee and red bull. Luckily it is just for this week, then I can have my naps back. DH has been trying to help with the feeds but she won't take a bottle from him or go to sleep for him so he normally gives up in frustration so I end up doing them all.:rolleyes: It's getting frustrating. I know my daughter is going to be very head strong - she already is at 4 months (heaven help me)! Oh and she is aqlready in size 0, luckily Target had play suits half price so I stocked up on size 0 and 1. I am running out of room to store the clothes she has grown out of, hope my sister gets preggers soon and has a girl!

Anway gotta run, enough :ecomcity: from me sorry, thanks for reading. Will try to get back for personals but prob won't be until weekend or next week.

Hope everyone is well and bubas are good.

TeamPage

23-01-2008, 17:20

Hi all,
I'm newish to bub hub and have only just found this thread.
I had my first baby, Isabella, 21 Oct - and I'm fairly sure she's going to also be my last! lol.
It's been a lot of hard work, as I had a screamy baby up until last week. Sending me mental :confused: as I had no idea why she was always crying. But I finally found a competant pead who gave me some colic medicine and she is now a different baby. No more screaming, lots of smiling and baby gaga, long daytime sleeps, plus sleeping from 8pm to 3am.
No rolling yet, but she stands up supported and reaches to bash up a toy if you hold in within arms length.
I've only read a few posts in this thread, so I'm not familiar with who is out there, but who else had their first baby last Oct? Anyone thinking of a second yet?
Nice to have people to chat to - can start to feel a little isolated with baby all day...
Robyn

zenifa

23-01-2008, 20:11

Welcome Robyn!!
You may be located near me, I'm also in the southern Brisbane suburbs!! I had my 2nd baby in Oct 07, I also have a 2.5yr DD. Sounds like Isabella is doing so much better now she has some colic medication!!

My DD2 isn't rolling yet, but can sit unsupported for about 5 or so seconds, loves to stand supported and is reaching for toys. Atm she is very interested in my hands and hair, always trying to put both in her mouth. She smiles and giggles a lot(hardly ever cries), makes lots of cooing noises which my DD1 interprets as her 'talking'.

Mich - I think DD2 is teething to, she is knawing on her fists a lot!! I also find that DD2 only has max of 2 sleeps during the day and will put it off if we are out or have visitors over (she is just too darn inquisitive and social, she doesn't want to miss a thing and loves a good gossip like her mum and sis :laughing:). She won't sleep in her cot or the pram, only our bed (I usually bf her cosleeping), rocker or snuggle bed. Lately she wants to be sitting upright in the sling, not lying down, so no more sleeps in there either!! So I try to keep outings or visits with people to 2-3hr max, so I can get her (& DD1) to have a nap. Two overtired cranky girls is not my idea of fun :no:
Yes I also went to the target sale, two bodysuits for $7, that is a great bargain, esp as my girl is now in 00 and growing so fast!!

Sara - good luck :fingerscrossed: with your operation on 5th Feb!!

Mischief - welcome back and hope the appt with CHN went okay, I'm sure that Katelyn is doing well!!

Nat - how do I feel about my body since I gave birth? Well its recovered really well from the c/s, but I do have some extra weight I would love to lose (ideally 15kg). My breasts and milk supply have settled so that is good, overall its okay, but there is lots of room for improvement. Hopefully once I'm recovered from this infection I can get back on track with healthy eating and exercise (really hard to do with 2 little ones).

Hope everyone else is doing well, thats it from me for now Bye! :wave:

mum_inlove

23-01-2008, 20:53

Hi everyone!!!

I finally able to pop in this thread..Been wanting to do it but ALWAYS got distracted by something else, lol.

Olivia is 13 weeks now, hang on, is she? I can't remember :o, i know she's either 12 or 13, shame on me:laughing:. She's getting too cute, and finally looks like a little girl haha..She's finally sleeping through as well, god, I'm blessed with 2 great babies..Well,she goes down at 7pm , I'll pick her up and feed her in her sleep around 9pm, then she'll sleep until 5.30am, even though the past 3 days she's been waking up 7.30am, and so does ds!!! Hence I don't know why I still want to go to bed by 9am, lol.

I thought she'd finished with her witching hour period, but it's back!!! After her 4pm feed, she'd just scream and scream pretty much until 6.30,m unless when I hold her. It's hard because sometimes dh just gets cranky with her, it's not her fault :(

She's been smiling and 'talking' heaps, it's so cute. Ds absolutely loves her, keeps giving her kisses and cuddles, sometimes it makes her cranky! Hahaha..

Ok, I'll try to do some personals..

Welcome 4tiggers and Robyn, hope you're enjoying this thread. The ladies are very nice and welcoming here, and also very chatty, I always have to catch up on so many pages everytime i come into this thread. Maybe I should just come in all the time, lol..

Trulyblessed and and05- Thanks for the target info, I didn't know about the baby week until I read the thread. I went there today, even though dh told me not to buy anything coz I already spent too much on ebay and online shopping, they were too many good bargains. However, after I picked up heaps of stuff, I realised I left my wallet at home. So maybe I just wasn't mean to spend any money, but I'm planning to go back on the weekend while dh will be at golf;)

And05- I was like you when dd stops waking up for her 3am feed, even until now, sometimes I'll just lay awake, try to listen to her..I miss her so much, I want her back in our room, but at least she sleeps better in her own cot. But last night I was trying to have a cuddle with her while she was asleep, she was having none of it, kept on grizzling and crying. Took me 45 mins to get her settle in my arms :crying:

mischief79- Olivia does the fingers sucking, too. She'll put her 4 fingers in her mouth and just sucking on them. Most of the time, she'll go to sleep on her own, but when she's unsettled, she'll suck fingers instead of dummy..

Nat- I think I'm okay with my body. I lost all the pregnancy weight, but I would love to go back to my pre-pregnancy weight with ds. Or I'll be happy to tone up. I want to have a tummy tuck to reduce the strecth mark, but I'll think they can't do it, coz they can't get anymore skin from my belly or anywhere else to replace it, hahaha..

Oh , gtg..Sorry if I forget anyone..Have a good night!!!

zenifa

24-01-2008, 08:11

Hi everyone
Just a quick one from me, as I'm getting the girls ready, we're off to a double b'day party this morning. My friend has a DS and DD, with b'days 3 days apart, he is turning 3 and she is turning 1!!

Anyway, had a TT victory yesterday. DD1 took herself off to the potty (after a few earlier attempts that didn't yield anything) and did a wee :smiliedance:!! So she got a star on her reward chart, and also some money for her Peppa pig, piggy bank. She was so excited, and couldn't wait to tell DH when he got home!!
DH was giving DD1 dinner and getting her ready for bed, while I bf DD2. Her bf at 6.30am and 6.30pm are the biggest and longest, but I'm okay with that as she's sleeping through.
Got up this morning, bf DD2 in bed, went to see DD1 and guess what?? DH forgot to put a nappy on DD1 when she went to bed (during the day at home she is usually nappy free, in undies or with a cloth nappy on) :hair: You guessed it, she wee-ed all night, all over her duvet, the fitted sheet, and luckily the waterproof protected the mattress. Her sleepwear and undies were soaked!! I know its an honest mistake but the room smells of wee :banghead: I'm sure later I will be able to laugh about it!

Anyway hope you all have a great day, will be back when I can!! :wave:

Shakey

24-01-2008, 08:47

Morning everyone

Well todays the day DD has got her ECG, :fingerscrossed: everything will be alright, DD slept through the night again last night, I put her down for the night at 9pm, and she didn't wake up till 7am, so thats pretty good, she had been waking up a couple of hours during the night this week for some reason, :fingerscrossed: she's gone back to her sleeping through again

welcome Robyn, glad your DD is all sorted and she's a different baby, feel free to pop in here when ever you want, we're a lovely bunch in here :yes:

zenifa oh no about DD2 not having a nappy on last night, your lucky you had the waterproof protector on there, I hate it when DS has had a accident during the night, his whole room will stink for ages, oh and yay for her going onto the potty during the day :fingerscrossed: she continues to do so

mum_inlove lol I sometimes loose track of how old Alexis is too, she's 17 and a half weeks now, man does time fly, and ya for Olivia sleeping through, hope she does more of that for ya

Well I went to put another bodysuit on DD last night, and do you think I could find one that would fit her, so she's officially in size 00 now, I searched through a box of clothes last night to see if I had any bodysuits in 00 and there was only one, so guess who gets to go out shopping again :smiliedance: will be hitting target again, they should still have their clearance stuff real cheap

TeamAwesome

24-01-2008, 10:02

Morning Ladies,

Well the work Aden's been doing which was supposed to take 8weeks minimum has finished in just over two weeks (with lots of rain in that time) so he's off again on Sunday or Monday. :thumbsdown:
So we're celebrating our anniversary:valentine: early and going to stay at the Ramada Pelican Waters for the Friday and Saturday nights.:yelclap: I didn't realise WHY it was so busy while trying to find somewhere to stay until it clicked Australia day was this weekend, I seem to have seriously lost track of days and dates lol. The kids will be staying with Aden's parents during the day and with his sister at our house at night time so they get to sleep in their own beds. Angelina will of course be coming with us (which reminds me *need to go get the portacot to air it out*) I'm also borrowing a sling from a friend so that I can 1) test it out as it's the kind I really like/want 2) not have to drag a pram around sling is so much smaller and compact!

Off to the GP for Libby's throat again this morning, my poor little darling only gets a sniffle and her throat basically closes up at night. I figure the more I go in for these kinds of things the better an eye is kept on it in case they need to be removed (aden had to have his removed tonsils and Adenoids removed her age of 2yo)

Now for some personals while I have the opportunity... Obviously lots to organise not much time to do it in.

Welcome Robyn! Congratulations on your first baby! I had my third and we're already discussing our fourth. My DH only wants to make sure we're in our own house first which will be in about 6months or so.

Jo - I hope Alexis ECG goes well! I have my:fingerscrossed: for you!

Zenifa- yay for the TTing victory yesterday!:smiliedance: Bummer bout the accident though.

Oh just realised I haven't answered my own Q :laughing: will BBL to do that as I've just realised the time and we should be off in a minute.

AnD05

24-01-2008, 11:26

Hi all!

Welcome Team Page and 4Tiggers, glad to have more people to chat too! Look forward to hearing all about your bubbas! My bubba is now 15wks old (OMG where does the time go!), he has just started to giggle which I absolutely love, reaches out and grabs his playgym toys and loves standing supported. In regards to number 2 - um nope def not anytime soon, maybe at least a year or so away for us.

Nat - Weekend away sounds lovely! Enjoy it, great that the kids can still sleep in their own beds too. Good luck getting organised and packed - that's the worst bit! - and unpacking! Oh re: body - Im back to my prepreg weight and actually have lost a bit more too, so happy in that department but really need to tone up my tummy, don't feel so great about the flabby bit there. Also I got quite bad strech marks just below my bellybutton in the last few weeks which I hate but hey what can you do!

Jo - Good luck at the ECG today, :fingerscrossed: everything is ok. Yay for more shopping time too! I was going to try and pop into Best and Less today to see if they have any specials too :D.

Zenifa - :smiliedance: for the TT victory, that must of been so exciting!! Bugger about last night though :detective:. At least your getting somewhere with it. Have fun at the joint Bday party!!

Mum-in-Love - Sorry to hear DDs witching hour is back, I dreaded the evening with DS, but thankfully he is soooo much better know and doesnt scream at all now he's on his reflux medication, don't know how much more I could of handled!

Ok sorry gotta run, off to a g/f's house to catch up with her and her 1yr old.

A

laurannson

24-01-2008, 15:09

Hi all-hope everyone is well!!
Welcome Teampage and 4tiggers-glad you have joined in-look forward to hearing more about your little ones!!!!:wave:

Jo-good luck with the ECG this morning-I would be interested to know what they say as I am a cardiology nurse.....and of course 2 of my kids were born with VSDs(small holes in their hearts)!!!!!Typical that it had to be my kids-sometimes knowing too much can be a curse!!!!!
Thankfully they are both fine,and closed over no probs!!!!!!!!!

Zenifa-well done on the TT front-it can definitely be a challenging time-my DH used to forget to put the girls nappies on all the time-so I can relate to you on the frustration!!!!!!

AnDO5-hope you had a good day visiting friends-its nice to be able to catch up with people who are/have been in the same boat hey!!!!!!!Did I remember rightly that you are a teacher down that way?!?!?We plan on moving down there in about 5 years time so I may have to suss out some good schools-always good to get personal opinions!!!!!They currently go to an Anglican co-ed school up in Perth,and I hear that there is something similar in Busselton-is that right?!?!?!Any thoughts would be great!!!

Antlmummy-enjoy your weekend-I am very jealous!!!Hope Libby is feeling better!

Mum in love-I am exactly the same with how old Samuel is now-when people ask me I say "well he was born on the 18th October-so how many weeks is that now!?!?!?!"Well done Olivia on the sleeping-Samuel is doing similar!

Michblb-hope you are getting enough rest-I am a big fan of coffee,as day time sleeps are just not happening in our house-maybe when school goes back I can sneak a few in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:sleeping:

Well I have just been out to lunch with a girlfriend........to a restaurant!!!!!(I don't get out much!!!!!):laughing:I only took Samuel with me-who slept through the whole thing,and we had both palmed off our other kids for the day......bliss!!!!I am now waiting for someone to come and clean our carpets,after the christmas festivities!!!!!!!

So I had best go and move a bit of furniture before he arrives!!!
Take care!
Cheers!:flowerz:

mischief79

24-01-2008, 15:31

Saremc - hope everything goes well with the Gall Bladder op. Is it pregnancy related? I've heard it can be quite common

Laurannson - glad to hear Samuel has settled down with his sleeping. It feels more natural just "going with the flow" and usually works best for both of you!

4Tiggers - Katelyn HATED tummy time to start with. She'd scream and fuss as soon as I put her down. I started putting a rolled up towel under her chest to prop her up and she's getting better and better. I think maybe because now she can see more, instead of having her face planted in the floor! She does it all the time now without the towel

Mich - teething already?!? Wow... I run my fingers over Katelyn's gums every now and again, but nothing yet. She also won't sleep in a pram when we're out, so I can sympathise. It's hard shopping with one dead arm!

Robyn - welcome and congrats on your first baby! Yours was born on my wedding anniversary, so it must be a lucky day. Our first was in October as well. Is the IVF the reason you're not having any more?

Anggy - darn that dreaded witching hour! We are the same as you.... thought it was gone and then it rears it's ugly head about twice a week. Should be lucky its not all day long I guess

Zenifa - Yay for TT with DD1, pity about the accident though

Jo - these babies are growing fast aren't they! Katelyn was only in 0000 for about a week, and is now in only 00, and sometimes 0. It's a good excuse to keep shopping for them though!

Natalie - happy anniversary! What one is it? Sounds like a lovely weekend planned

Anna - stretch marks are horrible aren't they! Mine are fading pretty quickly though. The ones on my legs have almost gone, they're mostly on my butt and hips now. I use Palmers stretch mark lotion which does NOTHING, but it makes me feel like Im at least trying!

I'm off to see Miss Saigon tonight. I'm so excited! It's my first proper night out without Katelyn, who will be home with DH. My mum bought the tickets as a christmas present for my sisters and I, so all four of us are going together. DH has the number of my close friends with babies so if he gets stuck or stressed, he can ring for help.

Had a beauty session on a certificate that I have the other day. Had my hair styled for the first time EVER. I'm usually pretty casual with hair and make-up, but now I love it! I've got really curly hair which I used to straighten or tie back, but it's layered now and I love the curls. My enxt appointment there is for a massage and a facial, and then I have only one visit left. Its my pamper time.

Katelyn is doing well. CHN cancelled on us yesterday cos she was sick, so now we're going next Friday.

I can hear the monkey waking up......

sam's mum

24-01-2008, 16:02

just a quick post, funny thing re the gall bladder op. Dad had his out a couple of years ago. He is still having trouble and had another ultrasound last week. He went to the doctor on Monday and got the results - the report says that there is a problem with his gall bladder..... His doctor has checked the ultrasound itself and it is fine, but seriously, who did the report and what problem did they find with the 'gall bladder'.

BindiAmberRose

24-01-2008, 16:14

hey im 19 in april n im a first time mum to lil Bindi who was born on the 22nd oct 07 :) i love to read about everything to do with her and wat babies her age do n wat they do in the future .. my lil bub has just started giggling :) just thought id say hi . .how is everyone doin xoxoxox

TeamAwesome

24-01-2008, 16:36

Hi Girls,
I'm back, having a couple of mins time out before I do some more washing and get more organised!

It'll be our 4th anniversary. It will be nice as we haven't done anything big the last two years (though I found out the day before our anniversary last year that Angelina was on her way)

Libby has croup :( poor little darling, I grabbed her some recovery tonic at the same time as her steroids hopefully she'll pick up quickly.

To answer my own question I feel pretty good about my body. I always say it takes 9 months to make a baby so I need to give myself at least that to get back to being me (I didn't get that long after Ty) Before kids I weighed around 55kgs and was a size 8. I'm now 61kgs the extra weight is mostly in my thighs and bottom (oh and my bra! lol) I finally got back to my pre Ty weight a couple of months before becoming pregnant with Angelina so I know it can be done. My body isn't quite snapping back the way it did the last two times so I'm being more proactive about it... My general "exercise regime" involves parking a bit further from the shop and then doing a bit of walking that way. Now that Aden's going away I'm going to seriously get into my Pilates Dvds at night when the kids are in bed (which reminds me I need to get a yoga mat as our floor's uncomfy) I personally am pretty proud of how I look for having three kids and all so close!

Belinda- I've always wanted to see Miss Saigon I hope you have a fab night and yay for the pampering! You go girl!! Isn't it amazing the difference a great hair cut can make?

Laurannson- yay for catching up with a girlfriend! and for going out with only one! Doesn't it feel weird like part of you is missing? But also good to be able to relax!

Oops just noticed the time so I have to duck to the shop or else the tuna mornay will just be mornay (how on earth I forgot that when I last went shopping I have no idea)

Have a great night girls!

Natalie

confusd

24-01-2008, 17:04

hello ladies sorry havent been round lately thought id just give you a quick up date on how things are going...i'll catch up reading everyhting after dinner,

My lovely placid daughter has turned feral!! Went shopping at pacific fair the other day and was in the baby change room when a little boy yelled and scared my DD, she started to cry and then it just kept going and got louder and louder, I've NEVER heard her cry like that:o:( she screamed for about half an hour, during this time i was freaking out thinking she had been stabbed or bitten and i just hadent noticed. (i seriously didnt think she could scream for that long )... i think she forgot what she was crying about but just kept going...then i walked past a shiny sign and tada....happy baby!!!:confused:

The one thing i noticed while she was screaming and i was doing EVERYTHING to calm her down was all the people walking past giving me dirty looks and shaking there heads....a few people even made rude comments!!!

i felt like saying look people i didnt pinch her to make her cry!!! Mind your own damn buisness!!!

so that was my little vent off to start dinner and bath the baby etc, i'll be back tonight to add some happy stuff:flowerz:

annette

mum_inlove

24-01-2008, 21:46

Hello ladies..

I'm having a meltdown today...Dd didn't have any sleep since 10am, so she was way overtired, but I just couldn't put her to sleep, and ds was only asleep for one hour the whole day. Most of the day, they were both either screaming, crying, or whinging..It was sooo hard because I never wanted to tell anyone if I had a bad day so I just bottled up all the emotions. So when dh got home, I asked him if he'd rather not hearing about my bad day with the kids, he said that he didn't mind, and I just burst into tears..He was sooo understanding, told me to lay down, while he looked after the kids and finished dinner, he's my hero :valentine:

So as I said, the past few days Olivia just won't go to sleep during the day. She'd be asleep for 15 min or so, then wake up. Normally I'd just leave her in the cot, but if she screams, I'll pick her up trying to put her back to sleep, but she'll just having none of it. ANy ideas how I can put her for a longer nap?

lauranson- Yay for going out for lunch!! As much as I love my kids, I'd love to go out for dinner or lunch with a gf. Dh doesn't mind to look after the kids if I want to go out, but I have no friends to go out with :(

Zenifa- Well done on dd for staying dry during the day. Oh well, sometimes accident happened hey, have to say it was pretty funny when I read it. But I'm sure it wasn't that funny for you :D

antlmummy- I hope Libby's feeling better by now..You're anniversary plan sounds so great, enjoy it!

and05- I hate my stretch marks, too. I got them everywhere. I, too, wouldn't mind to have a tone belly. I bought this thing 'leg magic' as seen on tv, lol (have you seen it?) It's actually very good. I was starting getting into shape, then christmas arrived and I haven't done it ever since,lol. Better do it again before I get too lazy, and also dh won't be too happy if I don't use it as it was my x-mas present :D

Belinda- what's miss Saigon? I hope you're having a great night. All your pampering sounded sooo nice, I'm so jealous..:yes:

Hi BindiAmberRose- welcome to the thread. Olivia was born on the same day as Bindi. She's also laughing and smiling heaps, but not quite giggling yet. Can't wait to hear about your little on..

Annete- :hugs: for you. Sometimes people are too fast to make a judgment without knowing the real circumstances hey..I was in similar situation as your yesterday at maccas, with 2 screaming and hungry children. People were staring at me, but with pity. I just ignored them..But yeah I was getting flustered as I was struggling with a baby in my arm, and ds on the other arm. Stupid me decided to leave the pram in the car, hahaha...

Gtg, have a good night ladies..

Shakey

24-01-2008, 23:25

Jo-good luck with the ECG this morning-I would be interested to know what they say as I am a cardiology nurse.....and of course 2 of my kids were born with VSDs(small holes in their hearts)!!!!!Typical that it had to be my kids-sometimes knowing too much can be a curse!!!!!
Thankfully they are both fine,and closed over no probs!!!!!!!!!

now if I had knowen you are a cardio nurse I would've been picking your brains before now lol, do you remember how big your kids VCD's were and where abouts in the heart? and at what age they closed over?

Well Alexis's ECG went well, she was such a good girl, stayed reasonable still, untill she got sick of the cold gel and started to get hungry, they found the hole, and its a little bit bigger than what they expected 4mm and in a different place than what they thought, its up the top of the left ventracle(sp) (where the membraine is) near the valve, cause of where it is, they have given a 50/50 chance of it closing by itself, if it was in the musle would've been better aparently, anyways cause she seams well they are just going to keep a eye on her, and re evaluate it at a year old (only another 8mths to go lol) unless something happens in the mean time (which nothing will :fingerscrossed:)

well thats it from me for the mo, will be back soon to do personals

mischief79

25-01-2008, 20:33

Annette - its horrible when they cry out in public and there's nothing you can do to stop them. As for other people watching, ignore them (as hard as it is). If they were any good, they'd offer to help. Not sure if i'd want their help though, but it would be nice to offer.
Katelyn was the same, DH sneezed loudly and suddenly one day and she was lying on my chest. Her whole body went rigid and her face was bright red she was screaming so hard you could barely hear her. I'm sure it's just sudden shocks

Anggy - thank goodness you have such an understanding DH. Horror days get the best of everyone. As for the daytime naps, Katelyn only sleeps 45 mins at a time and won't go any longer. She's up for 2 hours, and then down for 45 minutes and there's nothing I can do to change it. I'd love to know what others say about stretching out sleeps. I'd like her to have a longer one in the afternoon. Have you tried putting her on your bed where it smells like you?

Jo - good to hear that the ECG went well. You said there's a 50/50 chance it will heal itself, what happens if it doesn't? Can it be operated on?

Had another "show the baby off" day today. My mum is a teacher and I took her down to her school before the kids come back next week so she could have some Grandma show and tell. Katelyn was wonderful, all smiles and giggles!
Tried cooking a nice dinner tonight cos DH has been working 14 days straight and the last weeks and a bit has been 12 hour days. Got the long weekend off so I thought I'd make it nice. I bought lovely fresh Atlantic Salmon steaks, and stupidly tried cooking them while watching Neighbours at the same time. Needless to say we had very dry fish! Oh well. He's off to the cricket tomorrow so another peaceful day on our own. Might try and plan a lunch outing on Monday public holiday.

Miss Saigon last night was fantastic! (Anggy - it's a stage muscial set at the end of the Vietnam War. A huge love story). I cried my heart out at the end. Very tragic. All i wanted was to be at home hugging Katelyn as tight as I could. I realised how much I would actually do for her. Made me understand how my own mother feels about my sisters and I. I have this little life that depends so much on me, and I would do ANYTHING for her...... (Oh god, emotional mess here!!)

:sleeping:

SJE

25-01-2008, 20:34

Hi All

Thought I'd drop in and say hello. A rare opportunity!

Trulyblessed - 4mm seems so tiny for a hole :fingerscrossed: it just closes over by itself. If they do have to do something about it eventually - would it be using a laproscope?

Muminlove - What a great DH you have!
Have you tried putting bub in a sling or carrier?

BAR- Hi and welcome.:wave: Our bubba's have the same birthday!

Mischeif79 - I'll know exactly who you are in the shopping centres - the lady with the great hair do and a big grin! Enjoy your baby free time - bet you will miss bubs though.

Zenifa - That's great about the wee in the loo. It must feel like it was never going to happen.
We just keep stuffing around here. I'm trying to be positive and encourage her with it all. It appears that's all I can do atm. She doesnt really understand bribery/reward systems yet.

Still doing the BF thing atm. I'm keeping a very close eye on her weight to make sure she isnt dropping. Apart from that - not much else happening.

Have a good weekend:wave:

sam's mum

25-01-2008, 21:27

Zenifa, SJE - DS weed in the potty today! he had undies on and started to pee on the floor, stopped himself, ran to the potty, pulled down the front and pointed himself at the potty, shook his head, turned around, pulled down his pants and peed!!! :smiliedance: lots of clapping and cheering.

Trulyblessed - :fingerscrossed: the hole sorts itself out.

Angy, Mischief - last week Belle would only sleep 30-45 mins for each sleep as well. Then overnight she started to sleep through the night. two days later she started a pattern where she sleeps from 8.30pm to 6.30ish. She has a feed at 7ish then goes back to sleep at about 9am. Then she isn't wake up until about midday for her second feed of the day. then she feeds every two to three hours until bedtime with a short sleep between each feed. today she got woken up at 10.30 because we went out, when we got home she went back to sleep and didn't wake up until 12.15. I haven't done anything different, I think she found her fingers. oh and Mischief, I am sooo jealous about Miss Saigon.

confusd

25-01-2008, 21:37

Evening,

So bored!!! i have had a pretty dull week my highlights were shopping (that was when my DD had her screaming fit thingy) and today i picked up the professional photos i got done...
Kayla looks so beautiful (if i do say so my self hehe:D) Although i nearly had a heart attack when the lady told me how much they were.....$700 :eek::shame: now i really should of said oh well ill only get one or two but my mouth just started moving with out think and said ok!!
so now my saving are looking a little.....empty!!!:o

mischief79- glad to hear you had a good night out! and i know how you feel about you daughter, the first night out i had i spent half of it sulking cause i missed my DD.. it;s strange how you cant wait to get a night away and when you do you miss them terribly!!

BindiAmberRose- welcome and hello!! I ish my DD would giggle:( instead she has this delighted squeal that she does instead!!

Truelyblessed- my finger and toes are crossed but im sure everything will be fine! Im glad she is well .

mum_inlove- when my dd gets over tired i put her in the hug-a-bub (i LOVE it dont know how i lived without a sling) and walk around she usually grizzles for a little bit but then doozes off..if she is really grumpy i vacuum the floor with her in the hug-a-bub... sounds strange but b4 i finish the lounge room she is out like a light. i hope you day was better than yesterday

well going to watch some telly night ladies xox

saremc

26-01-2008, 09:38

Hi everyone

Confused - i have a hugabub too they are so great havent tried to vaccume with her in it but think i will have to try!

Truelybleesed - i have everthing :fingerscrossed: i hope everything will be ok!

samsmum - great to hear about the TT what a clever boy!

SJE - great to hear about the BF you must be pleased expressing is a fulltime job hey im very proud of ya! i know how hard it must be!

Well im trying to boost my supply trying to pump as much as possible and taking fenugreek, and trying to get some milk in storage so when i go in for the op there will be enough to keep my mind at ease.

Am getting nervous about the op i know its only minor but i just hate the thought :(

Well i better get moving i have friends coming over to stay for the weekend and have to get this house in some sort of shape. I also have copper staying again ahhh walking tornado got to love him though he is soo cute, scares me that Bella isnt too far off turning one lol ahhh well.

Have a great weekend and Happy AUSTRALIA DAY!

(sorry if i missed anyone!)
:flowerz:

Grizabella

26-01-2008, 10:46

Saremc - if yo get the lactating cookie recipe off here it is awesome. When my supply dried with Toran I had some and it came right back :)

Jo - saw your MSN msg...yay for Alexis!!!!:smiliedance:

Jane - that's great news about the TT!!! I am not going to bother reattempting it with Brion til after his gromets are in. I think his lack of communication is having a big impact on it.

I can still see the teeth under the surface of Toran's gums, but his symptoms have settled so I think they were just shifting. Kinda glad - means he's not so much of a baby if he has teeth! And I am relishing this stage as much as I can!

Having friends round for a BBQ tonight, and we are going to take Brion to the local marina to watch the fireworks :) Hope you all have a lovely Australia Day.

Shakey

26-01-2008, 11:03

Jo - saw your MSN msg...yay for Alexis!!!!:smiliedance:

Hehe, yip its so cool ay, my little girl rolling already, wasn't expecting her to do it so soon, cause she's only 3mths corrected, even 4mths is early, DS didn't roll till he was about 5mths old, but then again, i didn't give him much floor time cause I was paranoid of flat heads lol

I see your expecting some fluffy mail?????

saremc I second the lactating cookies, and if your interested i've got a recipie for tigers milk (kinda like a smoothie)

Jude I wouldn't worry about the TT right now, I just let J do his own thing, he let me know when he was ready and eventually he just clicked, he even told us when he didn't want his night nappy anymore (now that was scary cause I didn't think he was ready lol)

SeeJayElle 4mm is quite small, but if you think about it, thats just about half a cm, and the whole heart is probably about 8cm long, so thinking that way it seams quite big to me

mischief79 if it doesn't close by its self and starts causeing some problems then they will operate, the doc said that it probably won't cause any problems, well not untill she starts getting really active at around the age of 5, but even then she might be alright

mum_inlove hope your DD has been sleeping for ya the last couple of days

well thats it from me at the mo, i'm off to go and get me a safety sleep, cause I just went into Alexis cause she was screaming her lungs out, and she had rolled onto her tummy (and she doesn't like her tummy at the mo for some reason)

mischief79

26-01-2008, 21:08

BAR - congrats on Bindi. How do you like being a mother?

Jane - Belle sounds like she's in a fantastic routine! yay for you! :yelclap:

Annette - Sounds like Kayla's photos turned out well. We had some Pixie photos done and it was so hard saying that I didn't want to buy them all. (I just took the free one!). I couldn't justify $490.00 when I'm not working at the moment. I've taken enough of her myself. Someone suggested just going around and getting the "free" shot from different places, scanning them in and making your own collage.

Saremc - is the fennugreek working? I've been saying for ages that I want something in the afternoon to boost my supply cos Katelyn seems to struggle feeding then. (But I wake up the next morning swollen and leeking=, so I think it's just the time of day)

Jo - is Tigers Milk like the cookies? Do you have the recipe?

Quiet Australia Day in our house. DH went to the cricket at Adelaide Oval and only just came stumbling in the door now. At least he came home this time! So tomorrow will be a write off for him.
Mum came up and went shopping with Katelyn and I. I'm so proud of myself, I didn't buy any baby stuff!

michblb

27-01-2008, 20:38

Hi all

Just a quick post to say hi and am still here. Hope everyone is well. DH is taking DSSs camping tomorrow so MIL is coming to stay the night. Although I won't ask her to do any night feeds, it will be great to have help during the days.

Had a busy weekend doing all the things I've put off during the week while I was looking after DSSs. Went shopping for clothes for Charlotte (now in sizes 0 and 1:rolleyes:)and went to Ikea for a chair bed so my mum has somewhere comfy to sleep when she stays in a few weeks.

Charlotte is going well, trying to roll whenever she can but the teeth are painful now. :no: Poor thing screams until the Bonjella goes on. Am trying not to give her much panadol only if the Bonjella doesn't work. And she is getting teeth at the top and bottom.

Her hand control is getting really good - she can take toys from me and hold them for long periods, which is great. Have been timing my outings better so she always has a good nap before and I never venture too far unless I know I can nurse her for a sleep, which seems to be working ok. Am so looking forward to cooler weather as I think it will suit her better.

Time for a feed so gotta go, promise I will get back to do personals soon.

Question, has anyone turned around their car seat yet? A few of my friends have already and their bubs are 4 months so was wondering when I should.

zenifa

27-01-2008, 20:42

Not much news to report, both DDs are feeding and sleeping well. No rolling or major developments, a bit of teething now and then, and lots of smiling and laughing.
A quiet weekend here. Took the girls to the park yesterday and flew a kite which was fun. Today we went to GOMA to the Andy Warhol exhibition, the free kids part which both girls enjoyed and we got some great pics, will try to change my avatar when I get the chance.
Now for a few quick personals:

Jane, that is great news about the TT :yelclap:

SJE - hang in their, you are doing a great job with the breastfeeding :yelclap: and the TT with DD1 will happen eventually. It stops and starts with us, some days DD1 is good and will sit on the potty, other days she won't. I am taking a more laid back approach, as pushing her won't make it happen quicker and I just get frustrated.

BindiAmberRose - Welcome to our thread and congrats on the birth of your DD :wave:

Jo :smiliedance: yay for Alexis rolling!! :fingerscrossed: all is well with her heart!!

confusd - glad the photos went well and my DD2 loves my 'hugabub' type sling I have too!!

mum_inlove - hope things have improved since your meltdown, sounds like DH was very supportive. Glad my DD's weeing in the bed (with no nappy on o/night) brought a smile to your face, I can laugh about it now, but not when it happened (I was more annoyed with DH for forgetting, not DD, as she didnt know any better).

SJE

27-01-2008, 21:23

HI All

Sam'smum - That's great about DS's wee in the loo. When DD finally gets it, there will be dancing in the street!

Zenifa - I just wish DD would stop crying wolf. They cant get to 21 and still be wearing nappies can they?

Trulyblessed - Hmm yes it puts it more in perspective when you say the heart is just 8cm

Saremc - The lactation cookies are yummy though they are a bit healthier made with half the butter and sugar.
I'm going to a natropath this week to see what they suggest to help with supply. :detective:

ON the BF thing - Thankyou Saremc and Zenifa for your encouragement. :hugs:

AnD05

28-01-2008, 11:14

:wave:

Hope everyone enjoyed their Australia Day! We had a fairly quiet day. Unfortunately had to catch up on some gardening which I hate and it was soooo hot here which didn't help! Then we had an engagement/Australia day party in the arvo/evening. It was nice and DS was very well behaved!
Then yesterday we had DH's cousin and his wife and 2 kids over pretty much all day swimming and eating, then a couple of friends and their 2 kids over in the arvo for a swim, then we went to a friends house for a BBQ! So really busy day yesterday and late night last night. Just resting today and catching up on some washing! We do have a g/f, her b/f and her sister popping in on their way back to Perth for a quick hello which will be nice too!

DS is doing very well, although we are out of his meds at the momment. I rang up and ordered it (I have to get it sent down from Perth) on Tues morning thinking I would def have it by Fri before the long weekend and before I ran out. But NO the silly geesers didn't send it off till Thurs so it's sitting somewhere in this heat...when it's supposed to be refridgerated....and we havent had anything to give DS!!! He's been ok considering but his feeding has become much harder again because of the pain. Anyway hopefully it will turn up tom, not happy Jan!!!

He is sleeping so well still though which is just amazing, I never thought it would happen! He goes down at 7pm and doesnt wake til 8am!! He usually stirs somewhere between 4-6am but then goes straight back to sleep :smiliedance:. And the great thing is that theres no fighting him to sleep or spending the half an hour I used to trying to get him to sleep.

Zenifa - Glad to hear things still going smoothly for you all. Look forward to you new avatar.

Mich - Good to have some help from MIL, enjoy! bugger about the teething,poor charlie. Sorry not sure about the car seat, I thought it was 6mnths or 8kgs and good head control but don't quote me on it.

Mischief - You were very controlled when shopping, well done! Ive been quite naugty latetly, must slow down on the spending!

Catalyst - Hope you and your boys enjoyed the fireworks!!

Saremc - Hope you had a lovely time with your friends.

Confused - Im sure the photos are worth it, but yup that amount will def hurt the bank acc. I really want to get some prof photo of DS but we are quite limited where I am, hhmm must get onto that one.

OK ladies, gotta go my keyboard is driving me crazy it's playing up and taken me ages to write this!!

a

Shakey

28-01-2008, 11:40

Jo - is Tigers Milk like the cookies? Do you have the recipe?

its like a smoothy, its got milk, egg, brewers yeast, and a few other things in it, i'll pm you the recipie if you want

Question, has anyone turned around their car seat yet? A few of my friends have already and their bubs are 4 months so was wondering when I should.

Oh 4mths is just way too young, their poor necks, the recomendation is to rear face till 1 year, or untill your car seats weight maximum, which is between 9 and 12kgs depending on what car seat you've got, even though some babies do have really good head control at a very young age, its not a reason to turn bubs around, their neck muscles aren't strong enough to withstand a accident, even just stopping suddenly at 50kph can do some damage when they forward face to early

Trulyblessed - Hmm yes it puts it more in perspective when you say the heart is just 8cm

yeah it does ay, well they say your heart is as big as your fist (approx) so little babies hearts are so tiny, I dont' actually know how big her heart is, 8cm was only a guess, I might go measure her fist to get a estimate lol

oh and let us know how you get on at the natropath, I would be interested in knowing what else they suggest,

confusd $700 :eek::eek: wow that is a bit of money, I probably would've been lost for words if someone told me the price, the most i've ever payed for photo's is $300 and that was for 8 poses and that was 6 pics for each pose

oh and just have to say, WTG to all the TT'ers, they sound like they are all doing well :yelclap:

laurannson

28-01-2008, 22:32

Hi everyone-hope your long weekends were good!!!!!
We had a pretty quiet one,as DH worked ALL weekend-not happy Jan!!!!!!!!!!!!!We did have friends over for a BBQ Sunday night though so that was nice!!!!!
Samuel continues to be very sweet,except for bed time the last few nights-but will fall asleep in my arms eventually!!!!I usually try to get him to fall asleep in his bed,but because it is hubbys busy time of the year for the next few months,I have gone into survival mode,and whatever works.............works for me!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Only 1 more week of school holidays to go,and then DD1 will be back full time,and DD2 starts 2 days a week-so that will help heaps as well!!!

Michblb-I agree with all the others on not turning the car seat around for a while longer-we didn't turn them around till our others were about 8 months old by memory-I just used to hang things above them if they got bored looking up at the ceiling all the time!!!!!!!!!:laughing:

Jo-my 2 kids VSDs where both "muscular" and not near any bit that was important!!!!DD1s had closed over by the time she was 9 months old,and Samuels had nearly closed over by his 6 week check up!As long as they are aware of it,and always tell the Drs if you need to take her(I know you would!!)if she was sick with anything else,so they can listen to her heart ,as you can hear it through a stethoscope.They will probably do another Echocardiogram(an ultrasound of the heart)at 12months,as alot have closed over by then!Even if it hasn't,it often doesn't affect them in any way-they will just keep an eye on it!:hugs:to you-I know it is very stressful-but alot of our older generations have lived with them with no ill effects-we just have too much technology now days!!!!!!!!!(which is a good thing!)
Confusd-wow the photos sound lovely-something to keep forever!!

Seejayelle-I would also love to know what the naturopath recommends-some days I feel like there is not enough to keep my boy happy!!!

Zenifa-you continue to inspire me-I used to love kites as a kid......and am going to go and buy one now that you reminded me-cheers!:flowerz:

Mischief79-my Dad and BIL have been going to the cricket as well-must say it was a pretty boring test though-I used to live in Adelaide as well-so it holds a special part in my heart!!

Catalyst-hope the fire works were good-we couldn't bring ourselves to pack the family up and go and have a looksy!!!Maybe next year!!!

Well my brain has frozen so apologies to those I have forgotten!:confused:
Cheers!:wave:

Shakey

28-01-2008, 22:48

Jo-my 2 kids VSDs where both "muscular" and not near any bit that was important!!!!DD1s had closed over by the time she was 9 months old,and Samuels had nearly closed over by his 6 week check up!As long as they are aware of it,and always tell the Drs if you need to take her(I know you would!!)if she was sick with anything else,so they can listen to her heart ,as you can hear it through a stethoscope.They will probably do another Echocardiogram(an ultrasound of the heart)at 12months,as alot have closed over by then!Even if it hasn't,it often doesn't affect them in any way-they will just keep an eye on it!:hugs:to you-I know it is very stressful-but alot of our older generations have lived with them with no ill effects-we just have too much technology now days!!!!!!!!!(which is a good thing!)

oh your kids ones closed up fast, Alexis's one isn't muscular, its up near the valve (aparently the valve has moved a little too, I don't know if that is anything to worry about) they are seeing her again at the hosp here in about 6wks and we're waiting for a appt with the cardio team in brissie, they aren't too worried about it, so spose thats a good thing, they do want to keep a eye on it though, do you know if 4mm is quite big for a hole?

sucks ya hubby had to work all weekend,

Grizabella

28-01-2008, 23:02

Hiya guys :)

All is well here. We had a great night Sat night, there was about 15 of us and we all had a BBQ. No fireworks though, it said they were cancelled at Hillarys and Brion was tired too so he went to bed. I got a "bit" drunk (bottle of vodka...)though, and yesterday spent the 2 hr trip to my SIL's for our nephews 1st birthday with a bucket between my legs! Am OK now, we stayed the night at PIL's and MIL kept an eye on Brion while I had a nap :D She's a sweetheart!

am having a few girls round here tomorrow from BH. I am converting to MCN's and have got the cloth Mums round so we can chat about cloth and look at the different styles etc. Just a good excuse to come have a gasbag really! :D

We will be finding out whether or not HBF will cover Brion's gromets, if not we will pay for them ourslves. Not waiting 18months for the public system!

TeamAwesome

29-01-2008, 02:16

Hi Ladies,

I seem to be having a bit of insomnia of late and had some nausea for a couple of hours last night - I'm starting to think I tested too early so going out to buy another test this morning but I keep telling myself it's due to lack of sleep only getting a combined maybe 5hrs over the two previous nights.

Anyway our "anniversary" time away was lovely. I SO needed (and deserved) a little break. We had dinner out both nights and was just nice to reconnect with each other with only Angelina with us and not having the other two climbing over the both of us the whole time.

It was Libby's first time sleeping away from home and also being without her Daddy and Mummy (at the same time, only other time I've been away was to have Angelina) and she was fantastic, I did get a phone call from a friend who does children's church as she'd been left (even though we'd asked them not to but that's another story) to ask what a "Ya-Ya" was as she kept asking for my MIL who is "Lola" but she was fine after my friend was able to say she'd be back soon.

Well hopefully I can get some more sleep otherwise this am I or aren't I thing is going to drive me up the wall until the shops open! Well I was only saying to Aden on the weekend it would somehow be easier to just get #4 out the way.

Hope you're all sound asleep girls.

Natalie

zenifa

29-01-2008, 08:28

Morning ladies!! Just a quick post from me - need to shower, do dishes and get ready for playgroup this morning, first one of the year!!
DD1 wasn't well last night (sore tummy), woke up 4 times between 7pm and 10pm, but luckily a little placebo dose of paracetamol did the trick. She only took a small amount, a third of the dose, and then she settled down to sleep. We had tried cuddles, water, nappy change etc, so at the 4th wake up she wanted 'medicine', weird as she has rarely had it. Anyway she is all better now, and I was so happy she didn't wake up DD2 who slept through it all!! My little angel, can't believe this Fri she will be 4 mths, where has my little baby gone??

HI All

Sam'smum - That's great about DS's wee in the loo. When DD finally gets it, there will be dancing in the street!

Zenifa - I just wish DD would stop crying wolf. They cant get to 21 and still be wearing nappies can they?

I'm going to a natropath this week to see what they suggest to help with supply.

ON the BF thing - Thankyou Saremc and Zenifa for your encouragement.

I am so proud of you, expressing for so long and now breastfeeding :yelclap: keep up the good work, you are one amazing mumma!!
Let us know how you go at the naturopath this week.
Like you I do wonder, when will my DD1 give up her dummy and use the toilet?? My goal is by her 3rd birthday, if we don't reach it then our next goal is before she starts prep!!

Hi everyone-hope your long weekends were good!!!!!
Zenifa-you continue to inspire me-I used to love kites as a kid......and am going to go and buy one now that you reminded me-cheers!:
Cheers!

Oh gee thanks :cloud9: It was so lovely and breezy on Saturday and as a family we needed to get out of the house. DD1 got a kite with her wiggles funhouse for Xmas and we still hadn't tried it - I forgot how much fun it was!! Sometimes its the simplest of things that amuse the kids, like flying a kite and playing in the park - it did all of us the world of good!!

Hiya guys

Iam having a few girls round here tomorrow from BH. I am converting to MCN's and have got the cloth Mums round so we can chat about cloth and look at the different styles etc. Just a good excuse to come have a gasbag really!

We will be finding out whether or not HBF will cover Brion's gromets, if not we will pay for them ourslves. Not waiting 18months for the public system!

Great to hear you are converting to MCNs!! Good luck with it and I am keen to hear what sort you end up using. I had my nappy service for 6 weeks and then got lazy and used disposies for a little while, but I'm back using the MCNs now on DD2, and DD1 occasionally, although she is mostly nappy free or in undies (nappy on for sleeps though!!).

Good luck with Brion's grommets, :fingerscrossed: your fund covers it!!

Mich - :iagree: with Jo, 4 months is way too early, regardless of weight. My DD is probably 7.5kg now (I'm getting her weighed next week at her 4mth check up), but I won't be turning her around in the car seat til the end of April at the earliest (ie after 6mths).
Their head/neck control may be improving but in terms of a collision, they are still way too fragile.
Which reminds me I must get DD1's booster seat (still can't decide between Maxi Rider II or the Infa Vario booster seat ?) and organise to have DD2's baby capsule returned, as she is fast growing out of it.

Anna - yes, good reminder, must get working on my avatar, need to resize it first.
Glad to hear things are going well with you and your DS!!

Nat - glad to hear your anniversary trip went well!! Sending some :sleeping: fairies your way, sounds like you need them. Good luck with testing, let us know if you are pregnant. That reminds me I should get a HPT this week too :confused:

Milliner

29-01-2008, 09:33

Mich - Some light reading for you :D

Question: Why is facing rearward facing so important?

Answer: Babies have heavy heads and fragile necks. The neck bones are soft, and the ligaments are stretchy. If the baby is facing forward in a frontal crash (the most common and most severe type of crash), the body is held back by the straps, but the head is not. The head is thrust forward, stretching the neck.

Older children and adults wearing safety belts may end up with temporary neck injuries. But a baby's neck bones are soft and actually separate during a crash, and the spinal cord can tear. It's like yanking an electrical plug out of a socket by the cord and breaking the wires. In contrast, when a baby rides facing rearward, the whole body--head, neck, and torso--is cradled by the back of the safety seat in a frontal crash. Facing rearward also protects the baby better in other types of crashes, particularly side impacts.

TeamAwesome

29-01-2008, 10:21

Hi Ladies,

Well BFN according to the test but I did it as soon as I got home (and it certainly wasn't the first one of the day IYKWIM?) so will do another one first thing in the morning. With Ty I had BFN's while having severe m/s 20-30 times a day for three weeks. If I'm still nauseous and having other type signs and still BFN's on HPTs I'll go to my GP for a blood test.

Mel - great info re: why bubs need to stay facing backwards! Mich might be worth passing the info on to your friends. I turned my older two about 5months but Ty was for touching the actual seat (and pushing off of it) and Libby was so she didn't choke while refluxing. I'm hoping to keep Angelina rearward facing for much longer.
I had a giggle as so many of us have rushed off to get HPT's the last month or so.

Shakey

29-01-2008, 10:45

Morning everyone, I feel like **** this morning, so so so so tired :sleeping: could do with going back to bed, dont' know why i'm so tired, I get on average between 6 and 8hrs sleep a night, I must just be run down

Nat glad ya had a good time away, its good to have a break isn't it, let us know how you get on with your test tomorrow, its weird ya getting preg symptoms and getting no pos test

zenifa My DS does the same, will grizzle and complain all night then ask for some medicine, I so try not to give him any, but some nights I give in and give him a little, usually straight after he goes to sleep and that will be him for the night, oh and didn't your DH get the snip done? has he had his test yet?

and whats with everone needing HPT's lately, scary stuff, has anyone got a BFP yet? (apart from Jude's cause that one doesn't count) talking about being preg, I should get hubby to do his test, just to make sure there are no swimmers there

well i'm going to ring the ph company now, I heard last night from someone that is with the same company that they have changed their packages, and she got charged just under $600 for last mth, so now i'm freaking, thinking i'm going to get the same bill, cause we both had the same package for the same reason, and that was to ring overseas often and at all hours of the day

TeamPage

29-01-2008, 13:01

Hi again ladies. Haven't had a chance to post again since my first one - thanks for all the welcomes.
Bella has now started sleeping a bit longer at night, which means a couple of extra hours sleep. Although, I've heard that most babies start waking up through the night again at around 4 months. Has anyone else experienced this with previous babies?

Zenifa - I'm in Coopers Plains, so not far at all from you at Stretton. How have you gone having a newborn with a toddler? I think what has stopped me going mental is the fact that I can nap while Bella sleeps during the day - I can't imagine that would be as easy with a toddler.

Michief - Bella wasn't IVF, I think you meant that for 4tiggers. Happy Anniversary for 3 months ago!

Natalie - How do you do it? Does it get easier with subsequent children because you have an idea of what to expect? Did you always want a big family, so in a way was prepared for the hard work? Hope you manage to have some sleep soon. There's a good reason that sleep deprivation is used as a form of torture!

AnD05 - Was having a baby what you expected? Do you have any hesitation with eventually having a second? I like the idea of giving Bella a sibling, but I cringe at the thought of going through pregnancy and birth again. Not to mention the crying and lack of sleep...

Jude - How are the cloth nappies going? I started using them when Bella was 2 weeks and have managed to persist with them. I am so used to them now I don't think I could give them up. I use disposables when we go out, though, in case I need to change her as I don't want to be carting a stinky cloth one around in the nappy bag!

Hope I can make in back a bit quicker than last time. Good to meet everyone.

Robyn

zenifa

29-01-2008, 13:47

Morning everyone, I feel like **** this morning, so so so so tired :sleeping: could do with going back to bed, dont' know why i'm so tired, I get on average between 6 and 8hrs sleep a night, I must just be run down

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zenifa My DS does the same, will grizzle and complain all night then ask for some medicine, I so try not to give him any, but some nights I give in and give him a little, usually straight after he goes to sleep and that will be him for the night, oh and didn't your DH get the snip done? has he had his test yet?

:hugs: Hope you are feeling better soon Jo!!
I also have had days when I'm tired, run down and even emotional, but I am getting 8hrs sleep/night. I did have an infection though which may have contributed. I am feeling a bit better now thankfully.

DH has to give his sample for testing on 13th Feb, so we find out after that. We did have unprotected sex once, so although its unlikely I am up the duff, I want to test to be sure, as I don't have AF back yet.

Hi again ladies. Haven't had a chance to post again since my first one - thanks for all the welcomes.
Bella has now started sleeping a bit longer at night, which means a couple of extra hours sleep. Although, I've heard that most babies start waking up through the night again at around 4 months. Has anyone else experienced this with previous babies?

Zenifa - I'm in Coopers Plains, so not far at all from you at Stretton. How have you gone having a newborn with a toddler? I think what has stopped me going mental is the fact that I can nap while Bella sleeps during the day - I can't imagine that would be as easy with a toddler.

Jude - How are the cloth nappies going? I started using them when Bella was 2 weeks and have managed to persist with them. I am so used to them now I don't think I could give them up. I use disposables when we go out, though, in case I need to change her as I don't want to be carting a stinky cloth one around in the nappy bag!

Hope I can make in back a bit quicker than last time. Good to meet everyone.

Robyn

Hiya Robyn, good on you for using cloth nappies, its a minority of mums that use them. Like you I use 'sposies when I'm out and also for sleeps as my girls are bit wetters!!
Yes, Coopers Plains isn't far away at all, about 10-15 min drive from me.
Having a newborn and a toddler certainly keeps me busy and out of mischief. Usually one is always wanting something so it can be constant but there is twice the fun and joy too! They often don't sleep at the same time during the day so I rarely get a day nap. I won't complain as they both sleep through 12 hr/night!
As a friend told me The days are long but the years are short, so I am trying to live in the moment more and enjoy it!:flowerz: