Are you TTC Bub#2 - Let's talk! thread 2

[plumptobump]

Haylie, I hope for your sake this is the one time we wont be cycle twins!!! :) Who knows what causes anov cycles...hormone imbalances, stress, etc. With everything else going on (losing hair, etc), I shouldnt be too surprised if it was an anov cycle. I dont know whats going on with my body but it needs to get back into gear!! Might pop in and get some maca tablets today. Ive got one, maybe two more cycles before the FS, so I should do what I can while I can...

Crafty, I dont have any eggs! We only bought some for Carter and his are all gone (there were only a few), so what do I do now?!? Haha...the choc would be horrible for me right now anyway...

Ok, off to analyse my chart and try and figure out what the heck went on...

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Chookie - :wave: Hi and welcome to the thread. What day is your AF due? I am also in the 2WW and will be testing next tuesday (hopefully).

Britt - :hugs: So sorry to hear that AF has come early. Yes I take the maca in tablet form and I don't taste it at all as I take it with my breakfast. I hope Carter is feeling better soon too.

Crafty - Is AF still spotting? sounds like you are in limbo right now... how frustrating!

Well, there was a nasty accident yesterday just down the road. You might have heard about it on the news? 2 children were killed when a truck hit their car at Lynbrook, S.E Melbourne. I didn't know the family involved, but it still upset me a fair bit.

I woke up today feeling nauseous so I caved and did a HPT. I got a :bfn: of course. Now I wish I hadn't done it!! I still feel a bit nauseous now even though I have had 2 pieces of toast. I also have this ongoing pain in my left ovary and slight cramping, but that is not totally unusual for me. Still feeling very tired too but sleeping better.
I will be very glad to get the final result of this cycle, it is driving me insane :hair:

[Craftymum]

Hels, fingers crossed for you for your BFP!

I heard about the accident on the news. Have friends that live in the estate there. Very very sad indeed.

Yes, still spotting, nothing more than just brown coloured pastey CM though... and day 4 of it, 13DPO... I really think it is AF coming, but had a high temp this morning so who knows. Only holding out about a 1% chance! :laughing:

[chookie_03]

Hi, my AF is due tomorrow. Been having bad AF like pain, so I will wait to see if it turns up

[Dangerkitty]

Hels--Crafty-- Any news?

Britt--Sorry to hear about AF. No fun :( I feel your pain. I thought for sure last month I knew what was going on. Then no luck :(

Chookie--Here's hoping AF stays away!

M2M--have you tried clomid before? I think my FS will put me on it and I am super nervous about it! Are there any side affects?

Well CD23 here for me and FF says that O'd on CD 20. I am assuming that is based on temperatures :confused: We did BD the day before that, so hopefully we caught it this time! If not, then we are well and truly on our way to the FS!

Have a fab Friday lovelies!

[Craftymum]

:wave:, no news from me.... Day 5 of spotting, and CD29.... same old same old.

[*Sparkles*]

Everything is pretty quite here too. Last night I had some AF-type cramping and it almost felt like my abdomen was burning... very weird. It's too early for AF just yet and this morning everything is quiet and I don't even have any nausea. I'm still feeling quite tired though.

Have a great friday everyone :)

[plumptobump]

Hi girls,

Hels, its sounding promising babe!! :fingerscrossed:

Crafty, your chart looks fab! :thumbsup: I refuse to believe that this isnt your cycle because of your spotting!!

chookie, any af yet?!?

Nothing new here...cd2 and my af is pretty light like it was last cycle..I am convinced something is up. If the vitex is screwing me up, I must say its helping with the pms! I dont get sore bbs or cramps anymore! :confused: Anyway, good news: I got a call from my fs clinic and they had a cancellation, so Im going on Tues instead of in May! :smiliedance:Hopefully they will be proactive and get things going...obviously not this cycle since I will have just finished af when I go in, but at least next cycle...

Anyway, nothing else really going on...am finally going to the gym tonight! :yelclap:

Have a good night girls...

xxx

[Craftymum]

Hels – It sounds so promising for you….. Really hope this is your cycle hun…;)

Britt – thanks for the support….. I’m just getting so over spotting. :hissy: I think the most frustrating part of it all is that we conceived DD in 6 weeks after coming off the pill.

That's fantastic news about your FS appointment - so happy for you that you are getting in there earlier now.

Can anyone tell me what my first step would be in regards to figuring out whats going wrong? E.g. is the first step a certain blood test at a particular time of the month? Or is it going onto Clomid? Getting a bloodtest to see if I actually am O’ing even though getting +OPK’s? I just don’t know where to start……

Yay it’s Friday! I want a glass of red, but I guess technically I am in the 2WW until AF arrives….

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Britt - That's great news about getting the appt earlier :smiliedance:I remember I had to wait ages to see a doctor when I first started on this fertility program. Infact, we were a whole year stuffing around with appts and tests for this and that. I could have had a whole brood of kids by now ;)

I'm getting a few niggly pains in the right-side every now and then. I ate lunch and actually felt a bit sick afterwards, so not sure what's up with that.

My boy has been asleep for almost 3 hours :smiliedance:

What's everyone else up to? Is anyone else testing next week?

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Hels – It sounds so promising for you….. Really hope this is your cycle hun…;)

Britt – thanks for the support….. I’m just getting so over spotting. :hissy: I think the most frustrating part of it all is that we conceived DD in 6 weeks after coming off the pill.

Can anyone tell me what my first step would be in regards to figuring out whats going wrong? E.g. is the first step a certain blood test at a particular time of the month? Or is it going onto Clomid? Getting a bloodtest to see if I actually am O’ing even though getting +OPK’s? I just don’t know where to start……

Yay it’s Friday! I want a glass of red, but I guess technically I am in the 2WW until AF arrives….

Crafty - How long have you been trying for this time around? I would say give it 6 cycles, then see your doctor and ask for a progesterone test. It's normally done around CD21 and they can tell from that if you are O'ing. If there's any concerns then ask for a referral to a FS.
I would recommend doing OPK's each month starting now to help pin point O.

edited - I just re-read your post and saw that you are already doing OPK's *doh* (preggy brain???) :D

[Craftymum]

Hels - I am suppose to be testing on Monday but I think AF will arrive before then!

When are you testing?

[Craftymum]

Crafty - How long have you been trying for this time around? I would say give it 6 cycles, then see your doctor and ask for a progesterone test. It's normally done around CD21 and they can tell from that if you are O'ing. If there's any concerns then ask for a referral to a FS.
I would recommend doing OPK's each month starting now to help pin point O.

Hels, I've done OPK's the past 2 cycles and have gotten +OPK's on both cycles. Have full charts for 2 months. I have been actively TTC since AF returned 8 mths ago from having DD. I have only felt ovulation pains since Jan though (when I gave up BF) so am not sure if I wasnt ovulating prior to that. I definately had the EWCM every month so I use to use that as a judge of when to BD and wasnt doing OPK's back then.

I have an appt next Friday to take in a copy of my two charts to discuss it with him but I am just not sure if I am being too eager. DH says it will take time and happen when it does ARGHHH!

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Hels - I am suppose to be testing on Monday but I think AF will arrive before then!

When are you testing?

I will do another HPT on sunday or monday. I have a BT already booked (by the hospital) for tuesday if no AF :fingerscrossed:
I am getting too scarred to go to the loo incase the wicked witch is here :laughing:

[plumptobump]

Crafty, I def think you are o'ing...your temps and +opks are great indicators. The spotting could be low progesterone in the 2ww, or endo, etc...it could be so many things, so I think the best thing to do would be go see your dr about it...if you're not pg already that is! :)

Hels, theres NO way I would wait until 1/4 to test...esp with all the symptoms you are having!!!

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I have an appt next Friday to take in a copy of my two charts to discuss it with him but I am just not sure if I am being too eager. DH says it will take time and happen when it does ARGHHH!

I think the problem with this TTC'ing stuff is that we just never know IF there is a reason or whether it's just a matter of time. Definitely have your appt, it certainly won't hurt.

Mind you, this is coming from someone who waited 6 years to have the first bub and kept getting told by the doctor "give it another 6 mths". In the end we found out DH has zero sperm... go figure :rolleyes:

[Craftymum]

Thanks Britt.... It's the spotting that scares me and the talk of possible Endo... Will see the doc next week. Between me and my DD he must think I have a thing for him as I feel like I have been in there every week! LOL! Well he is rather handsome :o

Hels - Maybe test Monday and prepare yourself for your bloodtest. I know the feeling about going to the loo!

I'm having the same with my spotting, except I keep going and checking! LOL

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Hels, theres NO way I would wait until 1/4 to test...esp with all the symptoms you are having!!!

I know, it's so hard. In my mind I think I am pregnant this time but I really don't want to see another BFN test. I figured, the longer I wait the better my odds :D

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Thanks Britt.... It's the spotting that scares me and the talk of possible Endo... Will see the doc next week. Between me and my DD he must think I have a thing for him as I feel like I have been in there every week! LOL! Well he is rather handsome :o


Ooooh... I'm coming to see your doctor next time! :laughing:

Gotta go as My Sleephead is finally awake. Nice chatting to you both.
mwah xx

[Craftymum]

Hels - I think your little one needs to teach my DD how to sleep for long periods! I usually get about 75 mins twice a day.... better than nothing I guess!

Enjoy the business end of the day!

[honeydew]

Hi girls!

What's everyone up to tonight?


M2M--have you tried clomid before? I think my FS will put me on it and I am super nervous about it! Are there any side affects?

I am now on my 4th clomid cycle. Everyone is different with side effects but the main ones I notice is hot flushes, bad headaches, bad O pain (although I see this as a good thing as it helps pinpoint O), nausea, tiredness but unable to sleep some nights & I definately have experienced some depression since taking it. To be honest, although I complain a lot about it, the side effects aren't unbearable. The only one time I felt like it was too much was when I felt sooo depressed unlike I have ever felt before. It was so out of character for me and I almost went to the Dr about it to tell him he needed to do something to make me stop feeling this way LOL. Not sure what exactly I wanted him to do but I felt like it was out of control.

Britt- your cycles have definately been weird since taking vitex haven't they! YAY on the cancellation!!!!!!! I bet you are just over the moon. And guess what- I have a FS appointment on Tuesday too! :laughing:

Craftymum- if it were me I would def be going to see the Dr about your spotting. It might not be a problem (and I agree with the others- your chart is looking FAB) but I don't think you will be dismissed seeing as you have been charting and have constant spotting throughout your luteal phase.

Hels- things are looking so positive for you!!!!! Can't wait till you test!

As for me, well I am now on day 35 and I STILL haven't ovulated :hair: I was feeling so upset and frustrated by it that I ended up ringing my FS and saying I hadn't O'd yet and I think I need a higher dose of clomid because I don't want to pay $145 for a scan on day 11 next cycle when I know for a fact they won't see any eggs there. So he rang me back and said I need to see him. His clinic is 3 hours from here but he comes to our private hospy once a fortnight so luckily he was able to squeeze me in next time he is here which is Tuesday. YAY! He wants to do a scan asap to see what's going on in there, and he will talk about upping my dose. To be honest I feel like I want to maybe just give up on clomid and try something stronger like the FSH injections but I am just going to go with what he says.

Wanna know something weird though?.... I feel so pregnant! My boobs hurt like hell, I have a really heavy full feeling in my lower tummy, I am getting dizzy spells, feel really hungry but can never finish a meal (unlike me!) and a few other things. But I know I can't be preg because a blood test 9 days ago showed I wasn't and I hadn't even ovulated yet. So it's pretty much 100% ruled out.

Here is my crazy chart- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c1c78

[Craftymum]

Wow Haylie you have been busy with DH havent you ;)!!!!

Glad you managed to get in next week to see your FS.... hopefully you can start to get some further answers.

I think I will keep my appt with the doc for next week and even just have a chat about 'when' I can start to look at investigating further. He knows about the spotting and isnt concerned, but I would also like to rule out other things. I have to say I am really really tempted to go back on the pill for 3 months to even things out and then hopefully when I come off I may be able to conceive... considering we were able to conceive DD after 6 weeks of being off it last time......

[honeydew]

LOL yep we are both so sick of BDing but aren't willing to miss the egg after such a long cycle!!!

I'm not sure how it all works, but wouldn't going on the pill again just be taking a step backwards? Doesn't it take awhile for your body to settle down again after the pill? I have no idea though, I haven't been on the pill for years! I know with PCOS you are very fertile immediately after coming off the pill but not sure if that applies to everyone?? Maybe just mention that to your Dr, he might think it's a good idea also.

[Craftymum]

M2M - When I saw him a month ago he gave me 3 options 1) go back on the pill for 2 mths 2) try ?? cant remember the name, might of been depo?something?
3) his preference, give it another month or so and chart and come back and see him....

Your right, it does feel like taking a step backwards. I'm one of these people that just wants to get on and fix something... hate the waiting around bit....

Hmm... being impatient.... so thats where my daughter gets it from! LOL!:laughing:

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M2M - I think being on the pill can help regulate cycles? I was on it last year after I stopped BF'ing bubs and now my cycles are pretty regular again.
I hope you get some answers at your FS appt next week. I spoke to my FS about starting clomid but he wouldn't let me and to be honest I would be too scarred of having twins or more!

Tonight I have a sharp tugging pain in my right ovary, it's quite annoying. I was also craving some chocolate so I sent DH out to the shop to get some lol. This could mean AF is not far away as I always induldge in chocolate at that time.
I nearly did another HPT (gee, I'm impatient!) and I pee'd in a cup but it was so clear and watery looking that I decided to chuck it down the loo and not bother. It was just a moment of weakness so I will hold out until sunday at least.

Crafy - How are you going, still spotting?

[honeydew]

Oh, well if your Dr suggested it then it must be a good idea so definately worth considering.

The waiting is the worst part of TTC hey. It constantly feels like you are waiting for something- waiting to O, waiting to test, waiting for AF..... :hair:

If you were to go back on the pill for a couple of months, it might offer some sort of a break from TTC and get back to enjoying BD for awhile! :smiliedance:

[Craftymum]

Crafy - How are you going, still spotting?

Yep, still same old, 5 days today. Its not much though, maybe a teaspoon all up during the morning, then another in the arvo and generally nothing overnight. Oh the joys.....

[Craftymum]

M2M - Your right, it could offer a break! The trying for the past 8 months nearly every second night since DD was 4 months old has been very tirsome.... oh well will see what he says Fri next week.

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Hels, THREE hour nap?!? Sheesh! Im lucky if Carter does ONE! :rolleyes:

Crystal, I agree with Haylie on the clomid stuff...there are side effects, and I was lucky to not get many of them, but the few I did get werent unbearable at all. Plus, you feel like you are actually doing something to help you achieve your goal of a BFP, so you really just put up with anything! :yes:

Haylie, yay for your fs appt on Tues! :laughing: I chuckled when I read that you had gotten squeezed in as well...but I shouldnt have been surprised, haha. In all seriousness tho, its good that your fs has been able to fit you in and give you the attention you deserve. As for the feeling preggo, logically, theres no explanation since it doesnt look like you have o'd, BUT, Ive heard of wierder things, so you never know! Have you taken a hpt?!? :D

Crafty, not sure if he explained what going on the pill would do...its called an ovarian shutdown. It basically gives your ovaries a chance to rest and recuperate...the theory is that once you come off the pill, you are highly fertile because your ovaries have had a chance to "reset". Hope that helps? Many ivf women do it before starting their injections/sniffing, etc.

Well, Ive decided that Im going to push for starting the FSH injections on Tues. Ill be cd6, and according to ff, there are many women who have started them on cd6 or later, so I figure there shouldnt be any problems. Of course it may not pan out that way, but if I can utilise this month, I would like to do that. We'll see what he says I guess.

Ok, off to spend some time with dh before we go to bed. :valentine:

xxxx
:kiss:

[*Sparkles*]

Just curious, what are the FSH injections and what do they do?

[honeydew]

Hels- I hope the choc cravings aren't a sign of AF on the way! :fingerscrossed:

Britt- nope no HPT, I am on a HPT ban :yes: It's too heartbreaking and the reality is I'm definately not pregnant since I haven't ovulated yet. It's nice to dream though huh :laughing:

I was thinking about the injections as well. I feel like clomid isn't doing anything for me and even though he might just up the dose, maybe I should give the injections a go first? I don't know what I want anymore. Last week I wanted to stay on clomid for a bit longer, this week I don't want to anymore :laughing:

Hopefully it's not a prob for you and you can start on them asap :babydust2:

[plumptobump]

Hels, FSH injections are injections of Follicle Stimulating Hormone to help develp better quality eggs...its kind of like a stronger version of clomid....

Haylie, did they tell you what the progesterone number was on your bt? It might have been on the borderline low side and they assumed you didnt o when in fact you had only just o'd?? I would take ONE hpt (dont tell dh!) to rule it out. I dont understand why your bbs would be sore if you havent in fact ovulated...I know what you mean about being double-minded about taking "the next step" or not. A big part of me just wants to keep going naturally, but then the other part is screaming, "ITS NOT WORKING!!", so Im ready to start treatments. The only downside is that we have to put fostering on hold. :(

[Craftymum]

Britt - That's interesting re the Pill..... Now you have me even more tempted to try it for 8 weeks..... :)

[honeydew]

Britt- they didn't give me a number, I will ask on Tuesday. I used to get sore boobs leading up to O all the time but since I've been on clomid it's been a bit better...... maybe yet another sign that the clomid has ceased working for me? I did an OPK earlier and it is by far the darkest I have seen this cycle. So :fingerscrossed: it's just around the corner.

Are you not able to foster while undergoing fertility treatment or something? :hugs:

I know what you mean, the injections are such a huge step but it gets to the stage where you are so over things not happening and just want to move forward. I used to think IVF would be the scariest thing EVER but I am pumped to do it, I just want to be doing everything in our power to get our BFP.

[plumptobump]

Britt- they didn't give me a number, I will ask on Tuesday. I used to get sore boobs leading up to O all the time but since I've been on clomid it's been a bit better...... maybe yet another sign that the clomid has ceased working for me? I did an OPK earlier and it is by far the darkest I have seen this cycle. So :fingerscrossed: it's just around the corner.

Are you not able to foster while undergoing fertility treatment or something? :hugs:

I know what you mean, the injections are such a huge step but it gets to the stage where you are so over things not happening and just want to move forward. I used to think IVF would be the scariest thing EVER but I am pumped to do it, I just want to be doing everything in our power to get our BFP.


Ok, that makes sense then that you get sore bbs BEFORE ovulation...I only get them after. Well, with a near +opk, that sounds promising! :fingerscrossed: Maybe the scan on Tues will show an empty follie! :yes:

No, we cant foster whilst undergoing fertility treatments...it makes sense and I know why they (all agencies) have that rule, but it sucks at the same time. Just when things are moving on that front...ah well. What will be will be.

[plumptobump]

Btw, can I ask you girls what you took to your 1st FS appt? Im bringing all my charts (altho Im sure he wont need to see them ALL), blood test results confirming my pcos, DHs SA. Is there anything else I should be bringing with me? I dont have my ultrasound scans showing the "string of pearls" on my ovaries (my gyn has them), but Im assuming he will do another scan anyway?? Any insight would be helpful! :)

[honeydew]

OMG I just got a positive OPK!!!



And the best positive I have ever seen, I've never had one this dark before!!!



I am rather excited about this seeing as I'm on day 36 and thought it would never happen :smiliedance:

My poor DH thought I had done a preg test because he told me I should since I seem to have a lot of preg signs. Well I did the OPK, and he walked into the bathroom and saw it and came running out with it telling me I was pregnant because there was definately 2 lines there. Poor thing :( I felt so bad when I told him it was an OPK not a HPT


Btw, can I ask you girls what you took to your 1st FS appt? Im bringing all my charts (altho Im sure he wont need to see them ALL), blood test results confirming my pcos, DHs SA. Is there anything else I should be bringing with me? I dont have my ultrasound scans showing the "string of pearls" on my ovaries (my gyn has them), but Im assuming he will do another scan anyway?? Any insight would be helpful! :)

I took my charts which he said were excellent and wanted to keep them but he also said he doesn't trust temperature charts to confirm 100% that ovulation has occured, he will only trust scans. I didn't have the results of my DH's SA but he rang QML while we were there to confirm the results that I told him. Are you able to get the scan pictures? But like you said, I'm sure he will want to do his own scan. If you are worried you could maybe ring the clinic and ask what you should take? Are you so excited? It is really such a great feeling to know that things are moving forward!

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M2M - Did you know that an OPK can also pick up HCG aswell? So you might want to do a HPT after all to rule that out lol. Congrats on O'ing though :smiliedance:

I couldn't sleep last night so feeling very tired today. We went to the shops this arvo and I kept feeling dizzy and had to sit down alot. Then I went to the public toilets and the smell hit me and I nearly :barf:It was quite embarrassing as the toilets were full of people.

I think I will test again tomorrow morning, even though it may only be 12DPO. I'm not completely sure when I O'd because I stopped using the OPK's and went with my gut instinct. So it was either on the monday or tuesday after the procedure was done.
I said to DH that if I am not PG then something is very, very wrong with me :(

[honeydew]

Hels- your symptoms sound identical to mine when I was preg with Mason :yes: YAY!!!!! I have such a great feeling this month for you!!

Yeah I knew OPK's pick up on HCG but I am thinking there's no way I could be pregnant if you look at my temps..... it's a nice thought though!! I just feel so positive about this cycle now because I think I have O'd naturally and not because of the clomid (being day 36 and all) and when we conceived Mason I had REALLY long cycle where I would ovulate like 8 weeks into it. So I hope we are in with a good chance and my LP is nice and long since my lining has had lots of time to build up nicely :fingerscrossed::babydust2:

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Hels- your symptoms sound identical to mine when I was preg with Mason :yes: YAY!!!!! I have such a great feeling this month for you!!

Yeah I knew OPK's pick up on HCG but I am thinking there's no way I could be pregnant if you look at my temps..... it's a nice thought though!! I just feel so positive about this cycle now because I think I have O'd naturally and not because of the clomid (being day 36 and all) and when we conceived Mason I had REALLY long cycle where I would ovulate like 8 weeks into it. So I hope we are in with a good chance and my LP is nice and long since my lining has had lots of time to build up nicely :fingerscrossed::babydust2:

I am about 90% sure that I have conceived this month. The thing that scares me is whether it will stick or if AF will come. The closer I get to D day, the harder it is getting :(
I know all about the power of the mind too :devil6:

Sounds like a romantic dinner, soft music and a glass of wine are in order at your house tonight ;)

[honeydew]

It's great you are so positive about this month, but I know what you mean about how as it gets closer you start to doubt it and get worried you will have got your hopes up for nothing. But the great news is that you have all the signs, and you went with your instincts this time about when to have to AI done.... so I think for sure you are going to get your much deserved BFP! :smiliedance:

Oh and guess what?...... DH is working tonight!!!! :eek: He left just now and won't be home till 6 am. We got some action in this morning, and will again tomorrow morning. I would say I will ovulate tomorrow or the next day so as long as we keep getting busy, we should be well covered.

[Craftymum]

M2M - That's great news about your pos OPK! Wow, atleast that can now put your mind at rest about O'ing and you can get busy with DH now! Shame he has to work, but like you say, you should have all your bases covered if you still keep busy. Goodluck this cycle, have my fingers crossed for you.

Hels - you really do sound like you have all the symptoms. I cant wait till you test. It's Tuesday isnt it??
I had the same thing last night, could not sleep. Think it took me 2 hours to finally doze off, and then DD woke up a few times in tears and ended up in our bed at 4.30am. I hate sleeping with her..... I love the cuddles but she will only sleep if she is cuddled fairly tightly and it just leads to both of us just getting so hot and sweaty not to mention the crick in my neck after it!

Britt - How are you going? Hows your little one doing? Feeling better?

Well Day 30 today for me, and still spotting but it has eased a little over the past 24 hours but still there. My longest cycle has been 31 days, so I expect to see AF between now and Tuesday... I think the VITEX and Vit B has helped with the amount of spotting as it has been mild this month and more pasty CM that is brown tinged than actual blood.

Have a great night girls.....:thumbsup:

[Craftymum]

oh forgot, another Q....

FF doesnt recognise spotting and still counts those days in your Lueteal Phase...

Eg last month is said I had a LP of 12 days as it included the days of spotting....

Is this right?

[plumptobump]

Hi girls,

Whoohoo Haylie for your +opk!!! I agree with Hels...I think you need to take a hpt...it doesnt make sense that you would be pg, BUT TAKE ONE ANYWAY...I will feel a lot better if I know one way or the other! :)

Hels, Im pretty convinced you are pg as well! Look...you all are going to get your BFPs this cycle and leave me all alone in the dark...:( Tell us the outcome right away tomorrow morning!

Crafty, Carter is a bit better, thanks for asking. Im good...tired...its been a long day. Its sounding really positive for you as well! Im tellin ya...Im gonna be left here, haha.

So, af has pretty much left...on day 3! What the?!? Off to bed...night girls!!

xxx

[Craftymum]

Glad Carter is feeling a bit better and sounds to be on the mend....

Dont worry hun, I'm not leaving you this month!!! I really have an awful feeling about Endo for some reason.... I should stop googling spotting as it's starting to make me worried LOL!

Day 3, how exciting - It's a new fresh month for you! :fingerscrossed:

[honeydew]

I still keep looking at my +OPK thinking how pretty it looks :laughing: It is definately by FAR the darkest I have ever seen, but maybe I was just lucky and caught the surge at it's peak this time. I'm so excited and feel like this cycle is going to be the one for us! I don't know why because it's been so buggered up with O'ing so late etc but I just feel like it feels 'right' iykwim? I'm going to look like a fool when (if) AF comes in approx 10 days but atm it's feeling positive! I'm not going to do a preg test because I have put myself on a HPT ban...... the chances have got to be pretty low that I would be preg..... wouldn't they?

Craftymum- yep, until you record light, heavy or medium bleeding, FF still recognises you as being in the same cycle. Day 1 is the first full day of actual bleeding. Days of spotting aren't counted as the start of anything, although sometimes it will say it was possible implantation spotting or whatever.

Britt- only 3 more sleeps till your appointment! That's so weird about your AF, must be the vitex? And don't you worry about a thing because I will most likely be hanging around in here for awhile yet, plus even if I were to get a BFP I would still stay. Besides, you are getting your BFP this cycle anyway!

[Craftymum]

M2M - Dont you just with our POAS looked as pretty as our OPK's ! :laughing:

I treasure my POAS that was a BFP from DD... it's still in the bathroom cupboard LOL!

I wish it was imp spotting, but as its day 6 of it, and it has become a normality every month I dont think so :rolleyes:

[honeydew]

That's so special you still have the BFP from Sarah! I regret not keeping the HPT I did with Mason, it would be so special to keep! But the line was soooo faint that I was questioning myself as to whether it was there or not, and I wasn't game to do another for 2 weeks until I got it confirmed at the Dr. I was so scared I'd do another and it would be negative so I just chucked that one in the bin and never did anymore. I'll be so different next time- I will be POAS every day until it's confirmed with a blood test and I will prob keep every single test :laughing:

The spotting thing is frustrating isn't it, because every month you think 'maybe, just maybe this time it's implantation'. I have even had FF say I had implantation signs and then stupid old AF turns up to ruin it all. I used to start spotting at about 8dpo but now I can manage to last until 10dpo before I start spotting. It sucks hey :( BUT I have heard of ppl who spotted throughout their luteal phase and still got a BFP so try not to lose hope :hugs:

[*Sparkles*]

I have kept Reece's HPT too. He has a photo album and the HPT is the first entry, followed by the 7 week jellybean scan photo and then the 20 week scan photo :)

DH and I have been chatting about me testing and I have come to the conclusion that I don't think I could handle seeing another BFN. I could still only be 12DPO tomorrow and when I tested with Reece I was 16DPO. So I might hang out until tuesday. Of course I will let you girls know the outcome if I haven't gone totally insane by then :hair:

[plumptobump]

I too have the BFPs from Carter...a series of 4 of them since I must have done like 7 before I believed it! I did 4 before I even told dh, haha.

Haylie, when I got a really dark + in Jan, I kept it and just kept looking at it too, haha. I was back home at the time in the states and my sister and mom thought I was nuts. They're just so pretty when they are blatantly +.

Hels, you are driving me MAD woman!! I understand why you want to hold out on testing, but sheesh...ILL be totally insane by then!!!

Crafty, like Haylie said, MANY women get BFPs with spotting in their LP...Ill keep tellin ya until you believe me, haha. :)

Well, Ive just had some spotting today so far, so looks like this has been the shortest and lightest af I have ever had, which suggests it was just breakthrough bleeding because of an anov cycle. (sigh) I really hope the fs has some answers for me on Tues. Ive made a list of everything I need to bring with me and questions I dont want to forget to ask. Im getting nervous. Ive stopped the vitex, mostly because if I can start on fsh this cycle, the vitex will counteract it...even tho its most likely the cause of my last two stupid cycles, I wanted to give it on more cycle and see if it improved anything. On another note, dh and I bought a new tv off ebay that we are picking up today (yippee!)...its not a plasma or anything, but a large flat-screen, so should still be good. Also bought a tallboy finally for Carters room, so picking that up next weekend. Enough spending this month!

Have a great Sunday girls!

[Craftymum]

Britt - Interesting about the VITEX. Do you think it didnt help with your last two cycles? THis is my first month taking it... not sure but I got two more days than I normally do out of my cycle before I spotted... yet to see how it affects AF, although I think it is coming today, as TMI, but when I went to the loo this morning there were a few clumps and some red spotting so with the noises I can hear coming from my abdomen this morning I am guessing she is on her way.

Taking DD swimming this arvo, and have to see both Grandmas so we are having a busy one!

[*Sparkles*]

Britt - There's certainly some good bargains on ebay.
We are going to the Home show today as we need to buy a new kitchen tap. It was leaking inside the cupboard so DH took it apart last night and the thread is all gone inside. So right now we have no running water in the kitchen.

Well, I change my mind like the wind lol and I woke up at 7.30am needing the loo so I tested. It was a :bfn: with not even a single hint of a second line.
Obviously it was not the outcome that I wanted and even though it's still a few days early I am starting to think that all the signs this month were in my head. I am coming to terms with the fact that AF will show up in the next couple of days and I am getting used to that idea, so it's all good :)
It will be interesting to see how my body feels over the next few days now that inside my mind I do not think that I am PG anymore.
Today I have no signs at all, in fact I am feeling the best that I have in ages.

[honeydew]

Oh Hels, sorry to hear about your BFN :hugs: It might just be a little too early because weren't you saying that with your little boy you didn't get a BFP until a few days after AF was due?

Britt- sounds like maybe it was an anov cycle after all.... not that it helps much but maybe look at it as being that your ovaries got a good break last cycle so they are well rested and geared up to start working overtime this cycle when you do the fsh injections :yes: It must be very frustrating. Try not to be nervous about Tuesday- I too was very nervous and had a mini panic attack the morning of my appointment but I felt a MILLION times better after it because it's so wonderful to feel like someone is actually going to help and do everything it takes :hugs:

Craftymum- NOOOO tell that nasty AF to stay away :mad: She's not wanted!

Last night I was really crampy on and off for most of the night. I was still awake at about 11pm and I had by far the worst ovulation pain I have ever had. Since I've been on clomid I get this mistakable pain usually the night before I ovulate (or maybe I ovulate during the night but my temp doesn't rise straightaway). Well last night was a shocker! I'm taking this as a good sign because it feels like I'm having a nice strong O this time. This morning my OPK was very dark still, but slightly lighter than yesterdays and not quite +. My temp took a bit of a dip as well..... so I would say today's the day! Not sure how we will manage to BD today as Mason might not have an arvo nap and DH sleeps all afternoon to then leave for work tonight at 4pm. Will have to figure something out!

[*Sparkles*]

Oh Hels, sorry to hear about your BFN :hugs: It might just be a little too early because weren't you saying that with your little boy you didn't get a BFP until a few days after AF was due?

Last night I was really crampy on and off for most of the night. I was still awake at about 11pm and I had by far the worst ovulation pain I have ever had. Since I've been on clomid I get this mistakable pain usually the night before I ovulate (or maybe I ovulate during the night but my temp doesn't rise straightaway). Well last night was a shocker! I'm taking this as a good sign because it feels like I'm having a nice strong O this time. This morning my OPK was very dark still, but slightly lighter than yesterdays and not quite +. My temp took a bit of a dip as well..... so I would say today's the day! Not sure how we will manage to BD today as Mason might not have an arvo nap and DH sleeps all afternoon to then leave for work tonight at 4pm. Will have to figure something out!

Yes it's true I didn't get a BFP last time until 16DPO, but I have decided that I am not going to hang on to that bit of hope as I will end up even more disappointed. Instead, I'm made up my mind that I am not PG and I'm already focusing on the next few months.
If I am PG then it's just a bonus :)

It sounds like a great O for you this month Yay! :smiliedance:
Some firends of mine have 2 kids and when they want a bit of loving they both jump in the shower together for a little while. Hope this helps ;)

[honeydew]

Hels in a way I think that is the best way to be- assuming you aren't preg and then if you are you get a lovely surprise! I really hope that you are though, to me it sounded like you had a lot of the symptoms. I don't think you imagined them :no::hugs:

LOL we couldn't even jump in the shower because Mason would be banging on the door yelling our names and it would put us off :laughing:

[plumptobump]

Hels, NO WAY! :hugs:Im so sorry babe!! I was so confident for you...but like you said, its still early and altho you dont want to hold out hope (understandable!), I will for you! :yes:

Haylie, jump DH NOW!!! You dont have much time from the release of the egg to fertilise it! Lock up Mason (not literally, haha) in his room with some books and toys and get a quickie in! Wake up dh and tell him this is the best damn egg you've ever popped and its demanding to be fertilised! :devil6: Sounds like a doozy of an ovulation so I am thrilled for you! :smiliedance:

AF - stay away from Crafty! Dont you know you're not welcome?!? :shame: Re the vitex, sounds like its working well for you...from my research, it will work wonders for some and mess everything up for others. I dont know which category I fit into, because really I needed to give it another month or two to find out...some women will have their cycles messed up at first to have them regulate normally in the 3rd or 4th month taking it. So, I kind of wish I could stay on it to find out. I would keep taking it if I were you tho. :yes:

Well, dh is working today - argh! He worked yesterday morning as well, and then I was rostered on to sing for church last night, so we havent had more than 30mins together this weekend. He's trying to finish his current job in three weeks instead of 4, so is working a lot of overtime to get things settled before he leaves. I am going out of my mind with Carter in the meantime! He has been so naughty today...just really pushing the boundaries. I planted some strawberry seeds this afternoon and within 20mins, he had dumped it all out! I wanted to cry. Anyway, excited for the new tv, so at least thats good!

Hope you girls are enjoying your Sunday...its nice and sunny and (not too) warm here..lovely.

[honeydew]

Britt- sounds like you and DH are both so busy- lucky it's not O time! LOL @ Carter digging up the strawberry seeds (though I'm sure you weren't laughing at the time!). It's like that some days hey, you FINALLY get something done, turn around and they've undone all your hard work :hair: Yay on the new TV!

We managed to BD this afternoon. Mason wasn't really tired for a nap but we put him in his cot with some music and that kept him quiet for 30 mins so we could get the job done :laughing: I'm thinking that this O is what I am doing naturally myself and not as a result of clomid... the reason I think this is because it's so late in my cycle and I would imagine the clomid would have worn off by now, plus before I was on clomid I used to get the sore boobs etc leading up to O which is what I've had. Today they are so sore I can barely wear a bra! :eek: (not a good look believe me :o).

[Craftymum]

M2M- Woo hoo, so glad you got some lovin! Have a good feeling for you this month..... hopefully its your time!

Hels - Sorry to hear about the test..... hopefully it's just too early yet to get the 2nd line.... I know what you mean about making yourself comfortable with AF coming... it does make it easier when she arrives and then you can tackle another promising cycle. But I do hope that you get your BFP this month :yes:

Britt - Arrghh, they are terrors arent they! Hope your little fella lets up on you a bit otherwise it's going to be a long 3 weeks for you hun.

Well AF did show today :(, but I'm ok with it, so I'll still be here next month Britt!

I pulled out my box of contraceptive pills this morning and they are still in code..... I am sooooo tempted to start taking them, but not sure if I should wait till the DR on Friday or not.... do you know if you have to start taking them the day you get AF, or can I start taking them this Friday? Would probably be a day or two after AF goes.... I'm so not sure. I dont want to waste another month if I decide to go back on them but I dont want to do the wrong thing either.....

I posted a thread to see if anyone else used this scenario as a form of TTC#2, a couple of people replied saying they didnt do it intentionally but they managed to conceive#2 within 4-6 weeks both of them.....:confused:

Well have a good day all, whats left of it!

[honeydew]

Craftymum- sorry to hear AF came :( :hugs:

I'm not really sure about your Q.... when you take the pill, is it just sugar tablets around the time that you have AF? Maybe just wait until you see the Dr if it's only going to be a few days out... it's hard to know what to do though hey.

[*Sparkles*]

Crafty - Sorry to hear about AF but at least you know what is happening now and can concentrate on the next cycle. I'm not sure about the pill either, I always thought it had to be taken on the day AF arrives.

M2M - Glad to hear you managed to sneak in a quickie today :D

Britt - How annoying about the seeds! Reminds me of when we once seeded a whole lawn and put down special soil etc. Then we watched as a storm came through, the heavens opened and washed the whole lot away. Not only that, but it left big ruts in the dirt!

We had a good day at the Homeshow and DH bought a rainwater tank for a really good price. I managed ok wandering around today and only had to sit down and rest a few times. But I still have a problem with public loos, as soon as I walk in there I feel like :barf:even if they don't stink!

My skin is breaking out too which is another sign that AF could be coming.

[Craftymum]

Evening,

After discussing it with DH I think we have decided to start taking the pill again, and spend the next 8 weeks not so focussed on TTC....

I still feel like I am not 100% sure if I am doing the right thing, but as it worked for DD, I wont know unless I try.

Haylie, yes it's just the sugar tabs, so I guess they wont do any harm if on Friday the doc says to stop taking them as the sugar tabs last till Sunday so I might start today just incase it has to be from day 1.

So if you dont mind me sticking around in the thread for the next 2-3 months girls as I think I am off the cards for TTC for the next 8 weeks...:no:

I hope I am the last one left here and that over the next 2 cycles you all get your BFP's! :smiliedance:

[honeydew]

Craftymum- wishing you all the best. I rekon if you didn't go on the pill and then it took a couple of months anyway, you would always wonder and wish you had of just bitten the bullet and gone on the pill... thinking of you :hugs: And of course we want you to stick around in here! I love seeing your posts :hugs:

[Craftymum]

Thanks Haylie! I love seeing all your posts too...

What would I do without bubhub!

LIke I said I am sooooooooooooo confused..... I guess I'm not getting anywhere, and I refuse to think that my body has changed that much since TTC DD.... so here goes...!

[*Sparkles*]

Crafty - That's good that you have made a decision. Is going on the pill to regulate your cycles? or some other reason (sorry, I lost track somewhere).

I will most likely have a month's break from TTC'ing next cycle too, but I will still linger here. I think it's nice to stay in the loop and still offer support even if we are not actively TTC'ing :D

We have to decide if we want to go on a family holiday which is always in Sept. It's very hard to decide this early as I could be PG by then and unable to fly. Or we could be in the middle of IVF.
It's my DH's family that goes away every year and they don't know yet that we are TTC'ing. We decided to keep it a secret until I was PG and about 8 weeks along and then announce it like a "normal couple" would. Last time they knew and we would always get phone calls and text messages asking if it worked yet. It's quite nice to be doing it on the quiet this time, with just the support from my online buddies :)
Anyway, we will have to give the holiday some more thought and make a decision this week.

[Craftymum]

Hels - It's a bit of both..... I am going back on to try and reduce the spotting of up to 9 days prior to AF, and also in the hope to spur the body on TTC#2 when I come off....

I think we all need a break every now and then, and you know what... it's when we take the break that we normally conceive as there's little stress!

I went away pregnant with 4 weeks to go with DD... It as only a 5 hr drive away, but still 40 degree heat and far enough away from the hospital! You'll be fine. I would still plan the holiday... might be what you need anyways if you are UTD!

Night girls....

[plumptobump]

Hi girls,

You have all been chatting away! :)

Crafty, NOOOOO!!! :hugs: Admittedly, I am a bit selfish in that Im happy you will still be around, but I wanted you to get your BFP more than I wanted you around (you know what I mean!). I think its good you decided to go on the pill...I know it feels like a step backward, but I truly think its all you need to get pg. Like Haylie said, you might have kicked yourself for not trying it had you decided against it. And PLEASE stick around while on the pill...just cause you arent ACTIVELY ttc, doesnt mean you arent ttc in the long run...and even if you werent, we would want you to hang around! :yes:

Haylie, good girl for sneaking a "session" in! :yelclap: Now all you have to do is wait, wait, wait!

Hels, this might not be something you want to think about, but I have learned not to put things on hold "just in case I get pg". It sounds horrible and pessimistic, but I realised a while ago that I needed to still have a life, and Im glad that I did make that choice because I would have missed out on a lot by now. And in the end, when you do get pg, you can always reschedule or reaccomodate those plans if needed. I doubt it will take you much longer to get your BFP, but I wouldnt put off your holiday! Just my thoughts tho...:hugs:

Where are the rest of the girls??

Well, picked up the tv and it looks great, so thats good. Dh fell asleep about 2 hours ago...hes like a slug recently. Just chatting with Crystal on msn (:wave:)...hope you girls enjoyed your weekend!

xxx

[Craftymum]

Thanks Britt, all going well I will be actively TTC in June if the next two cycles on the pill come into line. I thought I would start taking it on day 1 of AF yesterday and then on Fri the DR can either tell me to stop, or prescribe a lighter/heavier dose.... I needed to actively try to do something more than BD'ing towards a BFP!

I am going to focus the next 8 weeks on trying to lose 2-4 kilo.... I still have 4 kilo baby fat to lose so that's my goal. I've gone back on the CSIRO Wellbeing diet. I did it for 18 months just before conceiving DD and lost 12 kilo as it worked well for me, although this time round I dont have the gym and will just be walking.

Have a great day girls!

[2Pink4Me]

Hiya everyone

Firstly good luck crafty with your plan. If it helps you to do something more than BDing to get your BFP then it is worth it (even if it helps just by making you feel better IYKWIM).

Hels sorry about your BFN. A week or 2 ago someone noticed 3 of us (i think it was you me and someone else) had almost exacly the same cycle and mentioned there is a 1 in 3 chance of getting pg. I got a BFN too so i have to flick thru and see who was the third.

I'm in a bit of a situation atm. I loved being a part of these conversations on here even tho i only joined like a month ago but i feel as if i was already consumed with TTC before i joined. Now it seems i really have to force myself not to think about it and that being on here adds to my obsession. Its great to know other ppl are feeling the same as me and its a nice thought to be able to share this with people but i am worried i will become even more obsessed with it if i stay around. I'm confused! Will being an active member on here make me even more consumed with TTC?

Hope i haven't offended anyone. I think it is wonderful the support and friendship you all give each other. Just wondering if it is a bad thing to do something that might add to the amount of thinking i do about TTC?

[2Pink4Me]

Hels - it was you that said that one in 3 thing! LOL. And it was you me and crafty (sorry crafty i got confused) with really similar cycles. So maybe you tested too early. No AF yet? :fingerscrossed: for you.

[TheMamma]

Hi all, I hope you don't mind me jumping in on your thread. DH and I have decided now is a great time to TTC #2 and I am very excited about it....we are not telling anyone and so I thought coming on here would be perfect.

I feel very blessed to have one gorgeous 10 month old (as I have PCOS and Endometriosis) and was so lucky to fall pregnant after a few months. I think this time will be a bit harder as prior to TTC #1 I'd had an operation which made it easier to fall pregnant.

We have actively started trying as of this weekend.....though my AF is all over the place so I don't even really know if I am ovulating?! Oh well, all good fun anyway.

[Craftymum]

Hels - it was you that said that one in 3 thing! LOL. And it was you me and crafty (sorry crafty i got confused) with really similar cycles. So maybe you tested too early. No AF yet? :fingerscrossed: for you.

LOL, definately not my turn! AF is here in full force!

TheMamma - Welcome! I hope your TTC journey for #2 is short and sweet. I'm out of action for a couple of months as taking some time out to sort out my cycles, but I'll be on here to see how all you lovely TTC's are doing. Now just dont all leave me here alone :(

[honeydew]

Britt- one sleep to go!!!! I get so excited for other people's FS appointments :laughing: Lucky I have one tomorrow too so we can compare notes :D

Hels- I agree with Britt about not making decisions based on 'I might be preg' but I also get why it would be hard to know what to do, particularly considering you could be doing IVF at that time.... so I've really got no advice! My Dad comes back from Iraq in May and I would dearly love to go and visit him in Townsville but when I was thinking about it I was saying to myself that I can't plan anything because what if I am Oing while I'm gone and I don't have DH with me, or what if I need a scan done etc. But now I think we've decided if no BFP by May then we will take that month off from TTC to give us a break and also I will prob be having my laparoscopy done around then so I think we would need to take the month off anyway.

mum2moo- yep I definately agree that when I am on bubhub all the time chatting to my TTC buddies I get even more obsessed with it (if that's possible!). It's kinda hard because you want to share all this stuff you are going through with others but then at the same time, you aren't only going through your own monthly let downs, but you are having to watch people who you feel close to go through the same thing. It's heartbreaking :( But I am too addicted to stop now! :laughing:

Welcome to TheMamma! Did you have a laparoscopy prior to falling pregnant with #1? I have heard your chances of falling pregnant in the months following are greatly improved and I'm hoping that's the case for me. If you have endometriosis, can they do another one to clear everything out again and start afresh? Sorry if this is a silly question, I don't really know how it all works!

[plumptobump]

Go Crafty with the weight loss!! 2-4kg in 2 months is EASY PEASY! :)

Mum2moo, being on the forums can make you more obsessive about ttc...if you let it. I found that was the key...if I am just involved with one or two threads, and hop on simply to catch up and read everyones progress, its not that big of a deal...but when I am surfing the net for answers to questions re implantation and af while pg, etc...I find that is when I get really obsessive. Maybe if you allow yourself one or two days a week to check in, that might help things? It really is a personal thing and you have to do whats right for you, but I dearly hope you can stick around! :)

Welcome theMamma...another pcos-er here, so I feel your pain! Hopefully it will be nice and quick for you 2nd time around! :)

Haylie, Im excited for your fs appt as well! Now that you've finally o'd, what do you think he'll do? Will he do a scan to confirm it??

Well, af is officially gone, so let the wait to O begin again...will be interesting to see what happens when Im not on anything. If Im not on clomid, I usually O about cd28, so Im guessing it will be about the same this time?? Anyway, have a good day ladies...Ive committed to deep clean a room a day (you know the windowsills, blinds, etc), so today is finishing up the kitchen. Why do I feel I am forever cleaning?!?

[*Sparkles*]

Morning girls :wave:
Thanks for the opinions on the family holiday. Me and DH think that we might instead have a 5-7 day holiday (just the 3 of us) around july-august and go up to north Qld. Last time I booked something like this for just $1000 incl flights, on one of those last minute websites. Where as, if we go on the family holiday it will be 2 weeks and cost approx $3000 plus loss of income for DH. If we have to do IVF we will need that money. But, what ever we decide, we are still going to have a holiday this year so that's the main thing :)

Crafty - I hope everything goes well with your appt on friday re the pill. Is a woman supposed to be more fertile when coming off it then? I still have 6 kgs left from having the last bub, so I know what you mean about wanting to loose weight. I will be doing the same thing during my break.

Britt - Good luck for tomorrow, what time is your appt?

M2M - Here's my 5 cents worth lol... I agree with you about becoming obsessed as I ask myself the same thing. But I am obsessed regardless of whether I post in here or not. Infact, I have 2 stress free weeks and 2 stressful weeks each cycle (as we all do!)
I think if you enjoy chatting and sharing your journey then still do it, and maybe if you feel a bit obsessed on certain days then don't read or post in the thread. But come back on when you feel in the right frame of mind.
Yes I remember saying about the 1 in 3, so it looks like it's between me and you now, yes?

TheMamma - Hi and welcome to the nut house :laughing: (just kidding, we were all sane when we first got here :p)

Me - No AF here yet but still a bit early, could be later today or tomorrow. I was really sick of feeling crampy last night so I took 2 panadol before bed and slept very well.

[Craftymum]

Thanks Hels, I really dont want the break from TTC, but I feel it's something I need to do to help.

I've read and been told that if you give your ovaries a rest from ovulating, then when you come off the pill it can make some people highly fertile.....

I'm mainly doing it in the hope to eliminate the spotting incase that's not helping the TTC.... I'm hoping that going on the pill will regulate that and if it can make me more fertile then thats a bonus!

I guess I wont know until I try, and I'll kick myself wasting more months if I dont get a BFP soon.

[2Pink4Me]

Thanks everyone. I think the key (like you have said) is trying not to let it make me more obsessive. I reckon i'll stick around. Like i said before it's really nice to have people who understand. One month ago i felt like i was crazy cos i had no idea there were other people going through the same emotions as me. Even in one month just reading through your posts has helped me realise i am SO not alone so thankyou everyone! :hugs:

Hi to the mamma! I have endo too so we have something else in common aside from TTC. Hope you get your BFP soon.

Mummy to mason can you explain more about laparoscopy helping your chances of falling pregnant in the months after? I had my lap in feb so if it's true that's great! (all excited now!)

And Hels yep its out of us now. AF due for me today or maybe tomorrow but i tested a couple of days ago and got BFN. MAybe it was too early? I don't feel the pg vibes like i did with moo so not getting hopes up.

Crafty sorry bout AF

Looking forward to getting to know you all more and :babydust2: to everyone here.

[honeydew]

Britt- I have no idea, he might do a scan anyway or he might wait until next cycle now. Can they tell from a scan if the egg has been fertilised? :o

Mum2Moo- I think it's something to do with your tubes being cleared out during the operation (is it a lap that they run dye through the tubes or the other procedure they normally do during the lap?). But I have heard lots of people say the chances in the first 3-6 months following it are greatly increased, especially if they removed some endometriosis while they were in there.

[2Pink4Me]

Mum2Moo- I think it's something to do with your tubes being cleared out during the operation (is it a lap that they run dye through the tubes or the other procedure they normally do during the lap?). But I have heard lots of people say the chances in the first 3-6 months following it are greatly increased, especially if they removed some endometriosis while they were in there.

Awesome! Thats great news for me thanks. They did remove some endo - it wasn't alot this time just in a bad spot.

When is mason 2? Mia is two in June. Nearly two-year olds are fun hey! LOL

[honeydew]

I would say you are in with a good chance though!

Mason is 2 on the 11th July- it has gone sooo quick!!! :crying: I am loving this age, although we do get a fair few tantrums!

[*Sparkles*]

I've just realised that we have two M2M's if we use abbreviations lol, so I'll try to make it clearer who I am talking too.
Just wondered, does anyone else want to be referred to by their first name? I am always happy to anwer to Hels.

Anyway, mum2moo we are both in the same boat, eg waiting for AF to come today or tomorrow and we have both already had a BFN this cycle. Well, I have had 2 so far and I'm not doing anymore tests. I have a BT planned for tomorrow :fingerscrossed:

Mum2Mason - I think the scan will only show something if 5 or 6 weeks have passed (since LMP). I know they can't check a heartbeat until around 7 weeks. I don't think they can see if an egg is fertilised this early otherwise that would probably be something I would get checked each month (I wish!)

Just sitting here eating some dry biscuits. Was going to have a shower but felt :barf:I definitely have an obsession with feeling yuck around showers and public loos right now :laughing:

[2Pink4Me]

I'm happy to be Sarah (although thats probably more common than M2M LOL!) Putting Sars in my sigi so one of Sarah, Sars or m2m is good!

Mason is a lovely name! He is only 2 weeks younger than Mia - I think (maths not my strong point)! I love this age too - tantrums are pretty often here as well tho!

Hels i admittedly have done two tests too i think on the same days as you too! ha ha. I am going to test once more wednesday if no AF. Must.. hold.. off LOL

[TheMamma]

Hi again.

Yes, I had the lap and also a d&c. The dr's did say that is does greatly improve your chances of becoming pregnan and Whammo I was UTD!

DH and I only JUST started TTC#2 but I don't want to put too much pressure on myself and have given myself 6 months before I see Dr again. The hardest thing for me is, I have no regular cycle, sometimes it is 20 days, sometime 40 days sometime 10 days? So I find it really really hard to know when I O?

Does anyone else have this problem?

[honeydew]

TheMama- that would make it hard! Do you take your temp or anything like that?

Hels- I am happy to be known as Haylie :yes:

Sarah- thanks! I love the name Mia- it was on our list if Mason had've been a girl but now a friend of ours has a little girl called Mia, born 9 days after Mason. So we probably couldn't use it for the next one. I love it though!

Feeling so hormotional today, I don't know what's gotten in to me! I have PMT already and I only ovulated a day ago if that :o

Got my FS appointment tomorrow which I can't wait for because I'm hoping he will up my clomid dose or suggest injections until I have my laparoscopy.

[*Sparkles*]

Feeling so hormotional today, I don't know what's gotten in to me! I have PMT already and I only ovulated a day ago if that :o

Got my FS appointment tomorrow which I can't wait for because I'm hoping he will up my clomid dose or suggest injections until I have my laparoscopy.

I love that term "hormotional", it's very good! :laughing:

And that is how I feel today too. I am very tired and grumpy, good job that DH is at work. I don't normally get PMS anymore, but this definitely feels like it. I have a mild headache and some ovary pain too, so I just took 2 panadol for that.

[Craftymum]

Haylie & Britt, Goodluck girls for your FS appointment tomorrow..... I hope it goes well! Will look forward to reading your updates when you get back!

I've changed my DR's appt to tomorrow arvo, just to make sure he is ok with the whole pill thing, or if he thinks I should do tests first. YES I'm getting cold feet now! One minute happy I made a decision, next questioning it.... Oh well, regardless, end of tomorrow will see a result one way or another.

SO proud of myself today, have not touched a peice of cake yet! I love my morning and arvo teas, especiallly when Sarah goes down for a nap - I think that's half my battle!

Goodluck!

[2Pink4Me]

So AF just arrived and i'm shattered :(. Gotta look on the bright side and know that at least the 2ww is over for another 2 weeks! The other good thing is that i have an excuse for my atrocious behaviour toward DF! Being 'hormotional' (LOL) sucks for our men too! I really hate this. Although i didn't get "the feeling" i was still really hopeful that this was our month. Oh well...

That leaves you Hels. You should be our one in 3! :fingerscrossed: Your symptoms are a great sign and i hope that AF doesn't arrive for you too.

Going to go eat chocolate now.

[Craftymum]

:hugs:Oh Sarah, so sorry to hear that AF has arrived.....

Your right, only two more weeks and you can be relishing in the thought of being PG again!

Go and enjoy some easter eggs!

[*Sparkles*]

Sarah - Really sorry to hear about AF hun :hugs:

Crafty - That's great that you can see your Dr tomorrow. I expect you will be feeling very positive afterwards once you have your mind set on a course of action :yes:

I had a little lie down/sleep this arvo and I woke up feeling a lot better, still no AF yet though.

I have got 7 new sales through my business which I'm really rapt about. So that is keeping me nice and busy and helping to take my mind off things.

[TheMamma]

Mum2Moo - sorry to hear about the arrival of the AF.

[honeydew]

Sarah- sorry to hear AF came :hugs: Thinking of you :hugs:

Craftymum- everytime I see Sarah's happy face in your avator it makes me smile! Good luck tomorrow, like Hels said it will be good to decide with your Dr on a course of action.
Hels- I'm getting excited for you!! :smiliedance:

How is everyone tonight? We aren't doing much, just watching some TV. Got a busy day tomorrow- Mason's music in the morning, his speech appointment at 1pm and then my FS appointment at 3pm!

[Craftymum]

M2M - thanks! The pic was taken when we took her to the zoo for her first bday.... I love it but DH always says when she wears that hat she looks pudgy and has a silly smile... LOL!

Thanks girls, yes will feel a lot better tomorrow after I have the doc on board for a clear action plan.

Hels - Congrat's on the sales. :yelclap:Do you mind me asking what kind of business do you have?

Not sure if anyone is interested in sharing what we all do, or if you have already shared this sort of info around before I joined the thread!

I'm a Personal Assistant to one of the MD's for one of the major 3 banks and work in head office in the Melbourne CBD, but am currently on Mat Leave. We can take up to two years and I have taken 19 months all up and due back mid September.... not sure what I plan to do yet.....

[*Sparkles*]

Crafty - Click on my username and then on my home page :)

Actually, I don't know what anyone else does for work!

Do we have many stay at home mums or work at home mums?

[Craftymum]

Hels - what a great website.... I absolutely love the swaddle me's... I used them with DD right up until she wouldnt fit anymore in the biggest one! Love the new colour range too!

[*Sparkles*]

Yes they are great aren't they? I didn't have one with Reece and he used to always get out of his wraps, so I will definitely get one with my next bub :)

[honeydew]

I am a stay at home mummy!!!

But we have been trying to sell our house for 15 months and build again to save on our mortgage- if it doesn't sell soon I will have to go back to work :thumbsdown: I used to do the accounts at a nursing home but I think I will try to get a less stressful part time job if I have to get one.

Hels, off to check out your website now!

[honeydew]

Cool site Hels! I will have to have a good look later on- lots of stuff there that I am into!

[*Sparkles*]

Thanks girls :flowerz:
I've been working really hard on getting it all up and running, and finally it is all starting to pay off.

Nite all I'm off to bed. Tomorrow is D day for me and I probably won't get on here until later tomorrow :)

:fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed:

[honeydew]

Good luck Hels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:babydust2::babydust2:

[2Pink4Me]

Morning Girls.

Gotta start by saying that my post about AF was maybe a bit premature. I had some spotting yesterday which i never really get so i assumed it was AF and ran to post here cos i was sad but as it turns out she didn't come last night or this morning and i have no more spotting. Sorry for posting too quick! :o

But what do you make of it? Im confused!

Crafty good luck today. Looking forward to hearing what dr says.

M2M - (funny i can use that abbreviation cos i am obviously not talking to myself!) Mason has a speech appt? Can i ask why and what they do. Mia has been referred to one cos she has a tongue tie but am undecided about whether to go.

Answering the question about what we do - i'm a SAHM. I was at uni before i got pregnant. I'll go back one day but concentrating on family atm.

[TheMamma]

Morning ladies.

M2Moo, not sure what to make of the spotting? At least it's not your AF?!

As for the question, I am a WAHM. I work for an advertising agency, though it is not consistent. Some months I can do up to 100 hours, other months nothing. I also do a financial report for another company once a month, though that is only 3 hours worth. I suppose it all adds up though.

I'm wondering if I'll be able to work still when I have two kids?

[Craftymum]

Sarah - how many DPO are you? Could it be implantation? I hope so for you!

[honeydew]

Sarah- I agree with craftymum, sounds like it could be implantation! Maybe do a test in a couple of days if AF hasn't arrived.

Re the speech appointment- today is only his 2nd appointment, my GP referred us because at 20 months he still only says 'mum' and 'da'. I'm not overly worried about it but it was good to just go and get him checked out. The first visit was basically just getting to know the lady and her getting a feel of where he is at. We had a few things to do this week, including babbling to him like a baby again to get him back to basics as he never babbled much as a baby. And also a few other exercises to see what he actually understands. Everyone says he is so young and some just don't talk till they are a little older but I think it's worth going even if it's just to give you some tips on how to encourage them to talk. It has put my mind at ease if nothing else, to know that we are working towards getting him caught up to the other kids his age.

[2Pink4Me]

crafty i have no idea how many dpo I am. I don't chart temps and so can't figure out all the CM stuff! I have a pretty regular 28 day cycle, AF i think began on the 3rd or 4th March which makes her due yesterday or today (or maybe tomorrow if i stretch it). So i am tipping maybe i O'D 17th or 18th if it's normal. That makes me between about 13 - 15 dpo i think :confused: Oh my i am so confused. Spose I am back to playing the waiting game!

I felt so sick this morning. I am trying to be pessimistic to avoid being shattered when AF comes LOL. So i put it down to pms but it was a weird sicky feeling not really pms. (quietly crossing fingers)

Masons Mum - That sounds great. I think i will take Mia. She has really only just started talking more but you can tell its a big effort for her i think because of her tongue tie. I hate people that look at you like ur paranoid. So many people thought i was crazy for even getting her a referral! Thanks for the info.

Bit quiet on here today...

[Craftymum]

Hi Girls :wave:

Well had my doctors appointment today and we decided for this month to get all the various tests done.....

So had a bloodtest today for a zillion things, have an ultrasound booked for Friday, and DH fingers crossed will do his bit into a jar for analysis over the next day or two. I then have an appointment again on Monday with the doctor to get all the results and take it from there...

So I guess I am back in the game seeing as no pill at the moment....

Sarah - hmmm, at 14dpo or so I would think it's a little late for implantation, but if you ovulated late, then yeah it could be! So confusing isnt it..... Charting is really interesting and I find it fun, you should give it a go! I wouldnt think it's too early to do a HPT.... have you tried one with FMU?

Haylie/Britt - How did your appts go?

Hels - only 1 day to go for you YAY! :fingerscrossed:

[2Pink4Me]

Hey crafty thats great news! Answers are always good and should help you figure things out. It should put your mind at ease if nothing else and YAY for being back in the game! :fingerscrossed: you won't need the results and you'll get your BFP this month.

I would have thought it wasn't implant bleeding too. I think it is definately too late for that. I don't know - feeling blue atm :(. Also anxiously waiting results of my last pap test. Grrr stupid drs said they'd call me back and that was nearly two hours ago! They have the results sitting there :mad:

Whats FMU by the way?

[Craftymum]

Hey Sarah - Hopefully its just the bub sinking it's claws into you and being very very sticky!

I hate it when you have to wait around for things! So impatient!

Yes will be glad to rule out any major problems, especially endo given my spotting and all......

FMU - First morning urine.... you should do a HPT tomorrow morning seeing as you are nearing 14DPO, you should get a fairlyl accurate result I would of thought?

[2Pink4Me]

Crafty do they think you might have endo? That would suck. Good to rule out any probs. When are your results due.

I have an endo appt on monday and will talk to him about any TTC issues then. Will be good to get some info.

FMU got it. Thanks. Might try thurs if no AF.

OMG tearing hair out cos i have house inspection Thurs and need to clean. Better go do that.

Should i be a pushy cowface and call dr back? Receptionist was getting nurse to look at results then call back. Like i said it's been 2 hrs.

[*Sparkles*]

Sarah - Because we are on the same cycle I would say that you either have the beginnings of AF or you are PG but still getting a light bleed. This is very common and can happen every 4 weeks for some pregnant women as the body still remembers AF. That's why alot of women don't know they are pregnant until much further along.
I don't want to get your hopes up uneccessarily, but maybe do a HPT first thing tomorrow morning to see if you get an answer?

Crafty - Sounds like the Dr's appt was a success, we started out that way with all the tests. It will be good to find out if there is a problem now, rather than keep trying month after month to no avail. I hope everything is fine though :fingerscrossed:

I still have no news about what is happening with me, longest day of my life so far :(

[2Pink4Me]

Hels! No AF yet? I have a really good feeling about it for you! How are you feeling today?

[Craftymum]

THanks Hels.

Sarah - I would give them until 3 or 3.30 and then ring....

Not sure on the endo thing... My dR doesnt think so, well he didnt seem to think my symptoms married up 100% but I guess the ultrasound will pick up if anything major....

Goodluck with the house cleaning!

[mrsgrumpygills]

Re the speech appointment- today is only his 2nd appointment, my GP referred us because at 20 months he still only says 'mum' and 'da'

:thumbsup: I've heard that a sign of genius is either very eary talker or very late talker. Apparently Einstein was quite a late talker.

[plumptobump]

Hi girls,

Sorry this is a quick one as we are getting ready for THE appt....AAHHH!!! But, I wanted to say that I am a sahm, but looking at starting work parttime, if it works out better for us financially. We really want to get a house, and with interest rates due to start coming down again (hopefully), it would be good to be in a position of strength when the time comes. We'll see tho.

Sarah, another one who has speech therapy?? Wow...I didnt realise how popular it was, haha. Carter has his 2nd appt on Thurs as he is 26 months old and not saying anything but babble really. He was assessed at his 1st appt and now its time to play catch-up!

Ok, will do personals tonight...want to have a look at your website Hels, and hear back about Haylies appt. Be on later!

xxx

[*Sparkles*]

Still no AF and I went for my BT this morning. I rang them at 3.15pm for the result and it wasn't even processed yet!
I have gone back over my dates and I don't even think I am late yet. It's all running ahead of schedule as I went in for the procedure a couple of days early, but I can't tell them that. So they have me down as O'ing 2 days earlier than when I think I did.
Hopefully I will find out more in the morning (unless AF comes today).

[2Pink4Me]

Hels when do u think AF is/was due? No AF is a great sign. How many HPTs have you done?

I'm joining you with the confused thing! Still no AF for me but all :bfn: so far :(. Spotting has completely gone (and it was such a tiny amount the other day).

[*Sparkles*]

Well the hospital just rang me and the BT is neg, infact the HCG level is -2 :(

Now I am wondering if the maca root is screwing up my cycles? As of today I am not taking it anymore and hopefully AF will show up soon.
If AF isn't here by thursday then I have to go for another BT. This is all very unusual, I am ok with it all... just a bit baffled really!

[Craftymum]

Hels - Hopefully like you earlier mentioned it might just be a little too early to register... Stay away AF - your not welcome!!!!!!!!!!

[taylahsmum05]

Hi there im new to this and just read your thread! I have just started my first round of clomiphene and saw that you fell on your first round! Just wanted to chat and hope you dont mind me joining in . Congrats have u tried anything else other than clomid?

[Craftymum]

Welcome Taylahsmum! Goodluck with TTC! Hope you get your BFP soon.:)

[taylahsmum05]

HI girls Im a new starter to this! All the abbrev. are confusing me can someone help out ha! I am trying to conceive baby no.2 and have just finished tablets got clomiphene. Been trying for 13 months now. We had twins for first preg but lost one early stages and have a beautiful 2.5 yr old! Just wondering of any opinions sucess stories etc. We have a 1/20 chance of another set of twins bcoz of first set and family history! Just saying hi and hoping u dont mind i join! :wave:

[taylahsmum05]

Thankyou craftymum! What does bfp stand for ? haha

[2Pink4Me]

Hi taylahs mum :wave:

The abbreviations are all confusing as! Doesn't take long to get used to them tho. There is a list on here somewhere.

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=5331 Here they are

Good luck TTC. Hope your stay on here is short and hope you enjoy chatting to everyone. I haven't even been a member for a month but am finding it really helpful and great!

:babydust2: (babydust) to you

[taylahsmum05]

hi mum2moo! Im sure ill get used to it to! Everyone is so friendly its great. Hows things with you? Have u tried any clomiphene or any other remedies!

[TheMamma]

M2Moo - where in Melbourne are you?

I'm feeling a bit annoyed today. Since we have now decided to start TTC, I'm frustrated that I don't have a regular cycle to know when I O. I got an OPK today so I might give that a go. Very frustration though.

[plumptobump]

Hi girls,

Haylie, how did everything go today? Speech therapy, FS, etc?? Fill us in!

Hels, sorry about your bt results hon! :hugs: I hope you get some answers soon...do you get tracked via scans? Its possible you did O later than you thought, but maca doesnt normally cause that. Its all a bit of a mystery hey? :detective: On another note, your site looks awesome! I might have to do some shopping....

Sarah, good to hear your appt went so well! It will give you peace of mind to get the results of all your tests...to know once and for all whats stopping you getting pg. And welcome back to ttc! :thumbsup:

mum2moo, did you get your bt results in the end?? It sounds positive for you! It could be implantation bleeding if your ovulation dates were off, or it could be af being stupid. I would test in the morning and see! :fingerscrossed: for you!!!

Themamma, I would love to work from home...that would solve so many problems, but not many companies do that sort of thing sadly...

Hi and welcome Taylahsmum!!

Hi to everyone else and Im sorry if I forgot anyone! :wave:

Well, appt went well. I have a prescription in my hands for FSH injections to start in the next couple of days. Im so happy he's letting me start this cycle...but boy, it isnt cheap! We aren't doing iui this cycle and if we dont get BFP this time around, we will look at iui for next time, altho dh said if this time doesnt work, we will need to wait until July for the next cycle due to costs. No pressure, haha. So yeah, need to go into the clinc tomorrow or Thurs and meet with a nurse who will show me how to do everything. I jab for 6 days, then get blood tests. If the tests show my levels are high enough, I go in for a scan the next day and as long as there are only 1 or 2 ripe follies, I trigger. Then we bd like mad, haha. Here's hoping!! Anyway, fs was nice, asked a lot of questions, etc. I have to have some blood work done in relation to my pcos, to rule out any thyroid issues, prolactin, etc. That all gets done tomorrow. Whoo! I cant imagine what ivf is like...this is already so full on!

Anyway, Im excited, nervous...but more excited, haha.

Hope you girls have a good night! Haylie, hop on when you can!!

xxx

[2Pink4Me]

Evening Ladies

Britt - that's full on! Sounds like you have lots of things to do and think about! Wow my head would explode if i had that many things to think about. It's exciting for you though. Can understand how nervous you would be too. :fingerscrossed: for you with it all!

Taylahs mum - i haven't tried anything except bding around the 'right time'. I will talk to the endosurgeon on monday and see what he has to say. Not concerned yet. Only been TTC since December.

Themamma - I'm in the Greensborough area. Where are you? Having an irregular cycle would be hard to deal with.

Have a good night everyone. DF and I have a date with Gordon tonight. I heart Ramsays Kitchen so much! LOL might jump on later when DF goes to bed. Bye for now

[Craftymum]

Britt - YAY! I am so excited for you that you are getting to try what you feel you need to towards getting your BFP! The injections sound interesting, scary but most importantly exciting!

Oooo I really hope this helps you get your BFP hun.... :fingerscrossed:

Well spoke to DH tonight and he is all for having his little swimmers tested.... He is a little scared/embarassed etc and most importantly worried.... his response was well what happens if I'm having a bad morning! LOL.... I told him no pressure, but he's happy to do it when I want, so I said either tomorrow morning or Thursday morning..... it just means he has to go into work 1-2hours late due to the time we have to get the sample to the lab by....

[*Sparkles*]

Taylasmum - Hi and welcome to the thread :wave:

Brit - Sounds like your appt was a success and it must be nice to be starting on a new course of action. I really hope you have success this cycle :fingerscrossed:
Does it bother you to do the injections? I hate the thought of it, but I suppose I will have to be brave if we need to go to IVF.

Still no AF here and I think I am approx 1 day late now. I feel quite yucky tonight, I have a niggling headache and keep feeling sick in the stomach. Just feeling quite blah really, also a bit upset as I suppose the reality of all this has hit me.
The only reassurance I have is that with Reece I was 2 days late when I got a faint HPT and 3 days late when the BT was done.
It's the not knowing that worries me this time. I did a bit of searching on the net (like you do lol) and it is possible to have a false BT result this early, although not very common. I also saw suggestions about phantom pregnancies and eptopic which would result in a very low reading or neg BT.
Roll on thursday when hopefully I will get a more definite outcome.
I really don't care if I get AF now either just as long as I know what is happening.

[plumptobump]

Well spoke to DH tonight and he is all for having his little swimmers tested.... He is a little scared/embarassed etc and most importantly worried.... his response was well what happens if I'm having a bad morning! LOL.... I told him no pressure, but he's happy to do it when I want, so I said either tomorrow morning or Thursday morning..... it just means he has to go into work 1-2hours late due to the time we have to get the sample to the lab by....

Tell him not to worry! You can "help" him out if he needs it...I thought dh would have a hard time (no pun intended, haha), but no problem. Men. :rolleyes: He was embarassed and got all immature about it beforehand, but was fine when he was done. All that to say dh will be great! :thumbsup:

Hels, Im a little apprehensive about the needles, but from what Ive been reading, the bark is worse than the bite...as soon as I do the first one, it should be smooth sailing. We'll see I suppose. I just hope and pray it happens first go! Im so sorry you're going thru this hon! :hugs: It so much worse not knowing whats going on that it would be to just get af I think. If af doesnt start, what do you do??

mum2moo, enjoy Gordon and his potty mouth :laughing:!!

[Craftymum]

LOL Britt! Yeah I'll lend a hand! but will be a bit hard with a 1 year old crawling around!:laughing:

Go Gordon! I love Ramsay's kitchen..... Even though he's not good looking - he's so s3xy!:D

[Craftymum]

oh, the poll's up for voting for the march pager/digi scrap challenge!!!

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=2513472#post2513472

I've submitted two pages... LMAO at my digi one:laughing: I'm so much more a paper scrapper! Come and support us!

[*Sparkles*]

Hels, Im a little apprehensive about the needles, but from what Ive been reading, the bark is worse than the bite...as soon as I do the first one, it should be smooth sailing. We'll see I suppose. I just hope and pray it happens first go! Im so sorry you're going thru this hon! :hugs: It so much worse not knowing whats going on that it would be to just get af I think. If af doesnt start, what do you do??



I think if I have another neg BT on thursday and still no AF, they may do a scan. Not really sure yet, I have never been in this situation before.

[Craftymum]

Does anyone use MaybeBaby Ovulation testers? I have spent well over the cost amount for one of these in OPK's and just wondering if it's worth outlaying the $ for something like this that's reusable?

[honeydew]

So much chatter in here today! I've been on a couple of times today but haven't had a chance to read through all the posts until now...

Craftymum- I love your easter page! I voted for you :thumbsup: You are gorgeous! That's so great you are having tests done this cycle, it will be such a huge relief to rule everything out. With the endometriosis though, I'm pretty sure the only way they can confirm it or rule it out 100% is with a laparoscopy, but I could be mistaken. LOL @ your DH! I'm sure he will be fine, it is very nerve wracking for them though. My DH handled it pretty well considering that sort of stuff is mega embarrassing for him. And if your DH happens to have a dodgy result, you can always ask to re-do it because often the first one is dodgy due to nerves and stress over the test. I have never tried the maybebaby because apparently clomid stuffs up the results. I have heard a lot of people say it doesn't work for them, but it might be worth a try.

mrsgrumpygills- thanks for your reply- maybe I have a genious on my hands then?! Hehe I can only hope!

Hels- so sorry to hear your BT was negative :( AF isn't here which is a great sign, so hopefully the next few days hurry up for you so you know either way xo

Welcome taylahsmum!!! You should come join us in the clomid support thread, lots of girls in there are going through the same thing. I am currently on my 4th clomid cycle, I am on 50mg. What about you?

TheMamma- it is very frustrating with irregular cycles :hugs: It's great you have the OPK's now. Are you temping at all?

Britt- WOW!!!!! YAY I am so happy and excited for you that it's all happening straight away! You'll be getting your BFP this cycle :yes: Can I ask how much are the injections? Someone else told me they are the same price as clomid but you have me worried now!

As for me-

Mason's appointment went well. Based on the checklist she did on him and what we told her, she thinks his speech is the level of approximately an 8 month old :eek: He is 20 (or 21?) months! But she said his attention span is excellent and his understanding seems on par with his age so that's good. We will continue seeing her and have been given a few things to do with him- we have to speak in 2 word sentences only to him. For example "shoes on" instead of "put your shoes on please" etc. And more babbling, copy his noises, lots of silly facial expressions. And we are going to learn a little sign language, she is going to teach it to us as we go along. Today we learnt UP, DOWN, IN & MORE. I have signed up for a class/parent group thing that is on Friday mornings for 3 weeks next month for parents of children with speech delays. So it should be good!

The FS appointment went well... not a whole lot happened except he gave me the option of starting 100mg of clomid once AF comes or stick to 50mg. He said he would prefer me to stick to 50mg until after my first scan so he can get a look at my ovaries and then we will start 100mg the day of my scan if there's no eggs there. So as much as I just want to go on 100mg now, I have decided to stick to the 50mg until after my scan. It only adds an extra 2 weeks onto the whole process (by the time I have the scan done) so that's what we'll do.

I stressed to him again how my LP is too short and he said that yes that is a problem, but he thinks once we fix up the first part of the cycle and get me ovulating normally, then the LP will sort itself out. BUT I am to ring the clinic next cycle and they will send me progesterone pessaries to take throughout my LP to support it. I have been wanting something like this for so long, because I feel our main problem is the LP so I am very pleased with this. I feel as though this is the breakthrough we need to get a BFP. My LP has been a major problem for me, in fact it was the main reason I seeked help so I am feeling very confident that we are now in with a chance!

He also said to not even think about the laparoscopy that we talked about last time because he feels that clomid will be what works for me and I will be pregnant in a matter of months!!

I am getting a blood test done on Friday to check that I did ovulate and also to check if I am pregnant :fingerscrossed:

Holy cow, that was a long post!!!

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Sarah, DONT buy it! I have it and it doesnt work for me...Ive heard it works for some, but not others, so you would be risking it. I had ferning all the time, even when not o'ing, so I wouldnt recommend it...

Haylie, My fs said the same thing about the LP...that the fsh injections should correct it since the luteal phase is determined by the follicular phase. He did say that he wouldnt start me on progestone pessaries or anything at the moment tho since he doesnt think there is an issue there, only with my eggs, which are causing the short luteal phase. Its shocking to hear that about your child, hey? When they said Carter was about 12 months behind, I almost started crying. Will be interesting to see what our pathologist tells us to do as "homework" with him. As for the injections, EACH injection is the cost of clomid and you have to have at least 6 or 7...so looking about $200 just for the injections. Of course, I havent filled the script in, so I could be wrong, but thats what it sounded like what my fs said. Ill let you know tomorrow when I get them. Cant wait for Fri for you!! :)

Ok girls, off to bed...talk tomorrow! :)

xxx

[honeydew]

OMGosh that's expensive! :eek: Not what I was expecting at all!

It will be worth it though when you hold your little bundle in your arms for the first time :cloud9:

[2Pink4Me]

Hi again. Im shattered My recording of the lovely Scottish potty mouth who cooks oh so well stuffed up and i missed half of it :(. Didn't look like the best episode anyway.

Can someone give me a brief idea of what clomid is. Like what it does, why you use it and when you first start taking it? I so can't keep up.

M2Mason - thats good that you have some tools to work with as far as Mason goes. Sounds like she is really nice. I think you can never have too many things to try to help your little people out. As for your appt - whats LP? Awesome that they think you'll be pg in a matter of months! Fantastic!

No AF for me yet either. Talk about going crazy. Now i have no idea what my cycle is doing or did. I have no spotting or anything. Guess I'll just keep hoping! Tough though! Like you said Hels i'd also prefer just to know. If i'm not pg now then bring on my next cycle so i can start again. If i am then just guve me that BFP!!!

[Craftymum]

Sarah, DONT buy it! I have it and it doesnt work for me...Ive heard it works for some, but not others, so you would be risking it. I had ferning all the time, even when not o'ing, so I wouldnt recommend it...


Hey Britt, Thanks.... it's a hard one.... might stick with getting some bulk OPK's.... oh, BTW Sarah is my little girl :D, I'm Lisa!:)

M2M - That is absolutely fantastic news that your FS thinks you will be UTD in a matter of months! YAY! I know 2 weeks to wait seems an eternity, but I would wait and follow the action plan your FS wants you to take with regards to the clomid. But I so much feel you will get your BFP very very soon!

Sarah - Yeah it was a dodgy Ramsay's kitchen.... I didnt tape it otherwise I would send it to you.... wasnt anything spectacular at all.

Have a good day girls.
:flowerz::flowerz:

[2Pink4Me]

Good morning ladies

I did a FMU test today and got BFN :(. It's starting to get me down that AF is playing around. I know i'm only a couple of days late but it feels like forever! Grrr what's going on???

Crafty how are you feeling today after your appt yesterday? Are you excited about having a course of action?

Hels - Has AF come for you yet? Fancy two of us with same cycles having AF play similar tricks on us! Thinking about you :hugs:

Enjoy your day. I'll be popping in during the day but am feeling guilty about the house cos we have inspection tomorrow. Eeeek!

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Hey Britt, Thanks.... it's a hard one.... might stick with getting some bulk OPK's.... oh, BTW Sarah is my little girl, I'm Lisa!


Doh! Sorry Lisa!! :o I must get confused between you and the Sarah in here!!!

mum2moo, its very possible the stress of ttc has delayed ovulation and thats why you havent started af or gotten a BFP yet. I think thats why I love temping and continue to do it 17 months later...so I know exactly when I did O (well, most cycles) and was great having that resource to show the FS yesterday because he asked about past cycles and I was able to give him all of that information instead of trying to remember it. DEF NOT saying you will need a FS and it may not be for you, so using opks might help for next cycle as you can at least put O day within 2 days. Just a thought anyway. Sorry you're frustrated...I know that feeling well! :hugs:

Well, getting all my bloods done today, filling script tonight, nurses calling me back later today to make an appt...its all happening! :eek::smiliedance::crying::D

Have a good one!
xxx

[plumptobump]

Sorry Sarah for your BFN! :( Hope you get answers soon!!!

[2Pink4Me]

Thanks Britt. I might try temping or OPK next cycle. Have to sort of hide it tho cos DF would be freaked out if he knew how hard i was trying! So much easier to just let him think he has done something right and is getting lucky a few nights in a row (IYKWIM)! Naughty me :D
Great to hear that things are really starting to happen for you. Like i said before my head would explode if i had to think about everything you do!

Maybe stress is why AF is late but i haven't been too bad this month. I have been heaps more relaxed cos, although i'd love to be pg, if we could choose we wouldn't have an xmas baby. So i was a bit so-so with it all this month.

Could it be that i am but it's still too early to on a HPT? Do some get negatives until way after AF was due?

Thanks for all ur help guys!

[TheMamma]

Morning ladies.

Well, DD woke up at 4.30am this morning!:no: Something she rarely does! I couldn't get back to sleep as DH was up at 5.15am for work.....I'm tired!

M2Moo - I am right near you! In Macleod! Did you grow up in the area? Though I am moving soon to Mornington/Mount Martha....we just sold our house!

I think M2Mason asked about the temping - I did when TTC DD, but I didn't find it very accurate as I get colds a lot (has a low immune system) and my temp changes a fair bit. I may try it again though?!

Hey - I have a question. I've read a few contradicting things on BD'ing when Ovulating. Some experts say that when you are fertile to only BD every second day, whilst others say to BD every day? Any ideas? (I know DH would agree with the later statement!LOL)

[Craftymum]

Morning ladies.

Hey - I have a question. I've read a few contradicting things on BD'ing when Ovulating. Some experts say that when you are fertile to only BD every second day, whilst others say to BD every day? Any ideas? (I know DH would agree with the later statement!LOL)

TheMamma - I also have the same thoughts..... We BD EVERY FERTILE DAY! last month and lol - it was a little too 'ritual'.... Thinking that maybe that it was a little too frequent and the little swimmers were a little bit too diluted and didnt have enough time inbetween BD sessions to get stronger! Britt/Haylie - did your FS's ssay anything about any of this and how frequent to BD?

Mum2Moo - Yes I am so excited to be starting a course of action towards understanding my body. I am so frustrated that we conceived DD in 6 weeks, and now we are up to our 9th month TTC#2.....
A little nervous about what the results might lead to, but I am the type of person that likes to know what I'm working with so I can ensure I am trying in the best way.....

Well dropped DH's sperm analysis off this morning. Poor thing, he just emailed me from work and is worried that this morning wasnt his 'best work' LOL! I said if it comes up low he can have another go....

Quiet day today - off to do the food shopping! Not good considering I am starving myself on a diet!

[Craftymum]

Craftymum- I love your easter page! I voted for you :thumbsup:

Thanks Haylie!

Mum2Moo - maybe it's just a tad too early to register on the HPT. :fingerscrossed: for you!

[honeydew]

Chatty Chatty!! This thread has really picked up, I love it!

Sarah- Sorry to hear you got a BFN :hugs:To answer your Q about clomid, it is used to stimulate ovulation- either in people who don't ovulate on their own or people (like myself) who are irregular and need a boost. You take a tablet a day for 5 days in the beginning of your cycle. Some GP's can prescribe it but usually a FS or gyno does. My FS yesterday was surprised that I had originally been put on clomid by my GP. And to answer your other Q- LP is luteal phase which is the time between when you ovulate and when your period starts. For most people it's about 14 days, but anything under 11 can be bad and not allow enough time for an egg to implant. My LP used to be about 8 days and now it's about 10 days so still too short.

TheMamma- :eek: 4:30am!!!! I hope you manage to get a nap in today. With the BDing thing, each Dr says something different. We do it every day because my DH's sperm count is fine and I have read that it replenishes every 24 hours anyway. But even if you do it every 2nd day you will be covered because sperm can survive usually at least 48 hours inside you- so there will still be sperm there to meet the eggie as it comes down. My FS never told us how much to do it. He just told us to do it when we want to, not because we have to (yeah right, as if I'm not going to do it when we have to even if I don't feel like it! :laughing:)

Craftymum- when do you get the results back from your DH's test?

Britt- good luck today! Make sure you fill us in when you get back.

Hels- how are you today? No sign of AF I hope!

My temp went up again today so FF says I am 3dpo :smiliedance: I'm gonna get a BFP this cycle, I can feel it in my waters :laughing:

[Craftymum]

Yay Haylie - 3 DPO!!!! woo hoo

Get DH's analysis back on Friday, if not Monday when I go in for my resutls after the ultrasound on Friday....

[*Sparkles*]

I must be screwed up in the head as this morning when I went to the loo and wiped, there was AF and my reaction was "Yes!" :smiliedance:.
Actually, after what I went through yesterday I was genuinely happy to see her as now I know I am normal lol.
2 days late this cycle, it's been hard but I am feeling very positive for the next cycle.

I've made a few decisions after chatting to DH last night. We will continue with the procedures next month and I am going to continue taking the maca root.

Now I'm waiting for the hospy to ring me back so we can start tracking for this cycle.

I haven't had chance to read through the thread and reply, so I will do that later.

[Craftymum]

Hels - I am glad AF arrived for you and you had a normal cycle, hope the next one brings you your BFP!

[honeydew]

Craftmum- good luck for Friday! :fingerscrossed:

Hels- sorry hun to hear that AF arrived :hugs: But I'm glad you are feeling so positive about it. Next month will be yours for sure!! :babydust2:

Does anyone here still have their bubs in a cot? Mason is still in his cot but I'm wondering when I should change him to a bed? And I want some really nice bed linen and room decororations but not sure what I want. I was loving the pirate themed stuff at Target but that was awhile ago and I don't know if they still have it. I can't wait to do a big boy room up for him!

[Craftymum]

Thanks Haylie. I'm reallyl interested to see the results of the ultrasound most of all!

Sarah is still in a cot, but she is only 13 months..... Hoping to put her in a bed for Christmas.

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Hey chicks,

Mum2Moo, its possible to get a -hpt when af is due, but very rare. I would question your ovulation date more than I would the hpt being neg. I would give it a few more days and if no af or BFP, make a little trip to the drs.

Themamma, it really depends....on cm, on sperm count, etc. I would try every other day for a couple of cycles and if that doesnt work, go for everyday during your fertile time.

Crafty, my fs didnt mention anything like that either. To be honest, we didnt ask. We usually bd everyday during ovulation because DHs SA was normal...I know that doesnt help at all! :laughing:

Haylie, nothing to report...still waiting on the clinic to get me in for instructions. Carter is in a bed, but we didnt put him in one until he turned two, so Mason has a few months still. This is what we did his bedding in: http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/blouwrens/000002961.jpg
We didnt do all of it tho...we got plain blue sheets, a blue checkered doona cover and the car quilt and square pillow. Pirates is a cute idea!

Hels, :hugs: for af and :yelclap: for af! Sorry this cycle didnt work out, but at least you know where you are...and can start next cycle. Did they trigger you before your iui??

Off to make dinner girls...have a nice one!

[Craftymum]

Britt - Carter's room is absolutely gorgeous! You've done a a great job... I love it! I cant wait to set Sarah up.....

Hoping she will be ready at Christmas time.

[2Pink4Me]

Hi everyone, only got a minute.

I have had such a bad day! AF still not here :no:. Don't think i'm pg so i don't know whats going on.

My house almost fell apart today during our wind storm. The asbestos shed had a whole wall fall off, the huge gate that secures our yard blew away, the weatherboard panels have started tearing off, some of the fence fell down and i seriously thought the windows were going to blow out. Was in tears to DF and MIL all arvo :(. Lucky Mia slept thru it - don't know how! I was sitting in a ball on the floor and completely terrified!

We have a house inspection tomorrow too (great timing). I was cleaning and left a bucket of bleach on the bench to see damage to house. Mia tipped it all over her - from head to foot. So i had that to think and worry about too.

Anyway completely exhausted and am sure this stress can't be good for AF or a bub if i am!

Hope everyone else had a better day and those in Melbourne were ok after the storm!

[plumptobump]

Lisa, just thought I would clarify...thats not actually Carters room, just one that I got from online to show the bedding we got, haha! :laughing:I wish it looked as good as that!!! (Now regretting I said that and didnt let you all believe that really was his room...;))

Sarah, oh dear! :hugs::hugs: Im so sorry this day has been horrific for you! At least you are renting and wont have to pay for the damage (right?). I know what you mean about house inspections tho..they are straight from the pit of hell! :devil: But surely they cant look down on YOU because of the damage! How is Mia? Did you rinse her off right away? I dont really know what would happen if you got bleach on your skin? Anyway, sorry babe...let us know if theres anything we can do! :hugs:

[Craftymum]

Britt - That's funny! :laughing: you had me fooled :D. I'm sure your's looks just as good.

Sarah - wow, what an arvo you had! I am in Melbourne too, but in Eastern Suburbs, the wind tore some roof tiles off and filled my pool full of ****, but apart from that was just really windy and noisy. Dont know how DD slept through it either!

Hope Mia is ok?

[TheMamma]

Oh M2Moo, I feel your pain (being right near you!)

We had some roof tiles blow off, which caused our man hole to blow into the roof, our garage door blew in and then my dogs got our, a tree fell down, my beautiful big Yucca plant blew oven and broke....ohhhhh.......Hope your DD is okay! We were without power for 5 and a half hours as well.

Well, I did an OPK and got 2 lines the same colour....I think that means I O soon so I should BD - is that right? Ooohh.

[Craftymum]

TheMamma - Most definatley BD! If the test line is equal or darker than the control line then it is a positive! If it's not as dark as the Control line then your surge is probably about to start, or has been.... keep testing daily till you see it start fading....

[honeydew]

OMG Melbourne girls I hope you are all ok! :eek: It sounds like it was pretty wild there :hugs:

Britt- LOVE the bedding! What shop is it from? I love little boy stuff!

TheMamma- happy Bding ;) Looks like you will O at some stage over the next 2 days :smiliedance:

[TheMamma]

TheMamma - Most definatley BD! If the test line is equal or darker than the control line then it is a positive! If it's not as dark as the Control line then your surge is probably about to start, or has been.... keep testing daily till you see it start fading....

And what does it mean if tomorrow I test and the test line is lighter than the control? Does that mean I have already Ovulated?

I'm so clueless. Last time we just BD'd and kind of took pot luck. I did the temp thing but it wasn't accurate. I feel like I'm going through it all for the 1st time!

[honeydew]

TheMamma if you test tomorrow and the line is lighter, it just means that the surge is over. It doesn't necessarily mean you have ovulated yet though. Usually you will ovulate within a day or 2 of seeing the positive, and generally by the time you do ovulate the 2nd line is faint again. Hope that helps!

[Craftymum]

And what does it mean if tomorrow I test and the test line is lighter than the control? Does that mean I have already Ovulated?

I'm so clueless. Last time we just BD'd and kind of took pot luck. I did the temp thing but it wasn't accurate. I feel like I'm going through it all for the 1st time!

I'm no expert, have only been doing them for 2 months myself, the other girls might be able to guide you a little more! :)

I think that you ovulate within 24-48 hours from your darkest OPK?? so if you test tomorrow and it is lighter than todays, then I would of thought your LH surge has been and you would of probably ovulated over the past 24hours?? BUt keep BDing leading up to, during, and just after your surge to make sure you get that little eggie!:D

[plumptobump]

Britt- LOVE the bedding! What shop is it from? I love little boy stuff!

I got it from Adairs, but only because they were having a sale on and we had a Westfields gift card. But you can get it at Myer, etc. The brand is Freckles and they also make some REALLY cute bedding...like construction site, trucks, etc. We only ended up going with the car theme because he ADORES cars. Hiccups also has a really cute range of kids bedding. Good luck on your quest...its so much fun! :yes:

Themamma, omg about your house as well! :eek: I didnt realise how bad it was down there until I saw the news...Im glad you are all safe! :hugs: I agree with Haylie...as soon as you get your +, you will generally ovulate within 12-48 hours. If you get a lighter opk tomorrow, it doesnt necessarily mean you o'd already, but it could...so like Crafty said, keep bding my love! :thumbsup:

Ive decided when I take my trigger shot, Im going to take an hpt just so that I can see the + test! The trigger injection is made up of hcg, so it will turn a hpt +...and I really want to see one since I havent in so long! :laughing: Its sad really...argh! I so hope I can do injections this cycle! We got the script filled and Haylie, they undercharged for the Puregon and overcharged for the Pregnyl, so it ended up cheaper than it should have been...should have been about $125 for the Puregon (12 days worth) and Pregnyl, but we paid $95. So, it was cheaper than I thought...just in case you wanted to know that...

Ok girls, gonna go to bed. Early morning with Carters speech therapy (its in the city, so getting there in rush hour means we need to leave TWO HOURS before the appt! She only works Thurs mornings tho, so cant change it, argh!).

Nite

xxx

[2Pink4Me]

Morning girls. House inspection today! Feeling heaps happier today after a long night sleep.

Themamma - i drove around rosanna, macleod and stuff. Oh my it looked so bad! We were lucky and had power on and off throughout. U poor thing having no power! My parents and MIL still have none!

Britt - good luck with ur injections. When do u start them again? I so couldn't do that! You must be really tough LOL! Awesome that you got them a bit cheaper. Man thats expensive! (Worth it for you tho i hope)

Crafty - good that your house is ok. Was an incredible experience. Looking forward to reading newspaper.

AF still not here :confused:. Don't know what thats about.

Just thought i'd say hi before i get back to work. Hope it's sunny wherever you are! Chat later!

[Dangerkitty]

Hey girls! Wow so much to catch up on! I have no time to read, but wanted to pop in and see how you all are or if there was any good news or news at all!

For me, CD 28 which FF says is 8dpo, so will see. Temps were staying nice and high and then yesterday dropped majorly. So I half expected AF, but now the temps are back up. I am scheduled for the FS in 2 weeks, so it is good timing really. If I am not pg then I will be just finished with AF.

Hope you all have a lovely day!!

[honeydew]

Britt- is that for one cycle? Cheaper than what you thought so that's a bonus! Thanks for those brand names, I had a look and I have chosen one I love- the Hiccups Okie Dokie Dogs range- sooo cute! Gotta start saving now, he'll be getting a new bedroom suite as well. LOL @ the HPT, I would probably do the same!

Dangerkitty- might have been an implantation dip?

Sarah- maybe test again? Sounds like it could have been a little implantation bleed :fingerscrossed:

My temp is still up, I sooo want a BFP this month :fingerscrossed::babydust2:

[2Pink4Me]

Good afternoon all

House inspection over! All went really well and YAY its over!

Mum2mason - i just moved mia into a big bed. Its a little toddler one cos our single bed is way too big for her. Its lovely! It has kidsline stuff on it. Her set is Gossamer wings. OMG i am so in love with it! My mum got it for us when she was tiny and it looks heaps better on a little bed than on her cot! The boys kidsline stuff is really sweet too. They have pirates and zoo animals and noahs arc and heaps of things!
If you are thinking about moving Mason my one bit of advice (if you want it LOL) is to make sure you're ready. I have heard it can be really hard on the parents as well as kids. Saying that tho Mia has been great. I had one really bad day but thats it. She seems so proud and loves running to bed. It's great.

Hels i'm sorry AF came. I thought you were going to get ur BFP by your symptoms. At least you know now tho.

Britt - love your choice of sheets for carter! Little boys stuff is awesome. (I had fun choosing little girls stuff too tho!)

I still have no AF and am still getting definate BFNs on mt HPTs. I am so over it! I don't know whats going on :confused:.

[Craftymum]

Mum2Moo - I think you should go and get a blood test done... if you are more than 1-2 days over, then it would show in the blood test....

Well I have part one of my results back.... My blood tests showed no abnormalities, so thats 1 tick..... DH sperm count wasnt back yet, it should be in tomorrow so will check it then.... and I am crossing my fingers AF finishes today so I can have my Ultrasound done tomorrow!

Hope you are all having a good Thursday...

Yay Ramsay's on tonight! But I have a craft workshop so will have to tape him....

[2Pink4Me]

Hey crafty. Firstly that's great news ur BT is showed only normal stuff. :fingerscrossed: for your hubbies test and ur ultrasound. I was told when i had mine booked I could still have it with AF although i couldn't think of much worse :o I'm so shy in that way! Have you been told not to go if you have AF?

I think i would have a BT done but i am sooooo tired i can barely do anything. I am really struggling. Its crazy - i feel like i am having a frikken breakdown LOL. I dunno maybe it's just PMS stuff but i'm not really this bad usually. I want DF to come home so i can have a teary ha ha. Poor thing having to walk into me like this! At least the yard is semi tidy after yesterdays mess.

[Craftymum]

Mum2Moo - That sounds sooooo promising for you.... one of the first things is tiredness! If you are unusually tired, atleast book a time for tomorrow to have it done......

They never said anything about having US with/without AF... I just booked in for Friday as that's when I can get a babysitter, and was hoping AF would be gone.... I think its reduced to just spotting this arvo so should be ok tomm. LOL, I could think of nothing worse than having an internal US with AF! Yuk!

[*Sparkles*]

I ended up with a nasty headache yesterday which developed into a migarine. This is why I have been MIA!
DH had to come home from work early today and I have only just got up out of bed and had something to eat.
I guess I was spared around O time but it caught up with me now. What a strange cycle this time :no:

Anyway, I am booked in for my next scan on CD10 which is next friday.

Brit - No they don't trigger me as I O naturally. I think I am just not as fertile now as I am in my late 30's, so maybe IVF will be more successful for us this time around. I still have 2 more insems left though.
The bedding manchester looks great, I thought it was Carter's room aswell, at first :laughing:

Melb girls - Very sorry to hear about the storm damage. It wasn't too bad here but our bistro blinds got trashed. They needed to be replaced anyway, so luckily I had picked up some brochures at the homeshow last weekend ;)

Reece is still in a cot and it converts to a toddler bed but there is no way I am doing that yet lol.
He will stay in the nursery until we have another bub, but eventually he would move to a bedroom at the back of the house. It's all a bit up in the air at the moment for obvious reasons!

Sarah - I reckon you should have a BT test too, at least it will put your mind at rest. Good luck hun :fingerscrossed:

Lisa - That's great that your tests all came back fine. If your DH has low sperm count, will they consider IUI? I suppose you don't know all that yet, sorry I am jumping the gun lol.

Hi to everyone else.

[Craftymum]

[quote=Hels*Bels;2520921]

Lisa - That's great that your tests all came back fine. If your DH has low sperm count, will they consider IUI? I suppose you don't know all that yet, sorry I am jumping the gun lol.
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Hels, hope your headache goes away soon..... Why do our bodies do this to us! I know that carrying a little on in our tums is hard work, but I reckon it's a lot easier than this whole monthly troubles! :laughing:

:o I dont even know what IUI is??? Doc didnt say anything about next step, guessing he will give me a course of action on monday once we have all the 3 bits of the puzzle..... Is that where hubby does a 'donation' and they insert it in so you dont have to try and time? How do they know when you O? etc... ooo so many Q's!

[*Sparkles*]

:o I dont even know what IUI is??? Doc didnt say anything about next step, guessing he will give me a course of action on monday once we have all the 3 bits of the puzzle..... Is that where hubby does a 'donation' and they insert it in so you dont have to try and time? How do they know when you O? etc... ooo so many Q's!

IUI, or AI is what I do... it's insemination! So in your case I imagine your DH would do his donation at the fertile time and then the lab cleans it up and inserts it straight into the cervix through a catheter. They monitor O with a monthly scan (to check the follicle size) and with OPK's, sometimes they do a trigger injection to bring on O.
I have this every month but with donor sperm as my DH is totally infertile.
It's not unpleasant at all, just like having a pap smear.

[plumptobump]

Well, the clinic FINALLY rang (I think they were getting sick of me hounding them, because the nurse sounded a bit short on the phone :rolleyes:). Have to go in early am to get bloodwork, then they will show me how to use the injections. Crazy. Ill be cd9, and not a lot of women start them that late, but the FS said I could start them up to cd10, so we'll see. :fingerscrossed: It would work out perfectly if we get BFP this cycle...my mom is coming over from the states for a conference in July and I want to be over morning sickness by then....Anyway, Im getting a head of myself.


Mum2moo, sorry af is in hiding...she is being naughty! :shame: I agree that you should get a bt done...if not for pg, then to make sure there isnt anything else going on...thyroid, etc. Carter loves going to his big boy bed too! Its too cute! He runs to bed, jumps in and cuddles under the blankets! :bee:

Crafty, SO happy to hear your bloods came back normal! :fingerscrossed: everything else will too!

Haylie, its sounding SO good for you this cycle! :thumbsup:

Well, in the middle of dishes, so better run! Just thought I would update you girls...will let you know how it goes tomorrow!

xxx

[Craftymum]

Hels, sorry for all the Q's, and if I ask too much just say so!

So, does his donation have to be done whilst at the lab, so it's fresh and ready to be inserted? Is it expensive?

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Crafty, Ill let Helen answer as well, but yes, the sample is supposed to be fresh that morning (whether he can "do" it at home, I dont know). At the public clinic that I go to (where its quite a bit cheaper than elsewhere), it costs $600 all up for scans, IUI, meds, etc....Hope that helps a little??

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Crafty, Ill let Helen answer as well, but yes, the sample is supposed to be fresh that morning (whether he can "do" it at home, I dont know). At the public clinic that I go to (where its quite a bit cheaper than elsewhere), it costs $600 all up for scans, IUI, meds, etc....Hope that helps a little??

Wow Britt, is that per month?

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Yep, per cycle. At the moment, WITHOUT the IUI, the injections and monitored cycle (called OI - Ovulation Induction) is costing us $350, NOT including the meds!

[Craftymum]

:eek:OMG!, I never thought it was that expensive!!!

So it must have a fairly high success rate to be charging that much?

Guessing you have your FS costs on top of that too!

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27% success rate, not sure about the IUI rate (Hels, you might know that one?). But the FS costs were minimal :$260 for both of us, and we get $230 back from Medicare. Its all pretty expensive, but if you lived in the states, you would be looking at $2000+ for an IUI per cycle! We are lucky here! :)

[honeydew]

TTC is so expensive! :eek: It is really sad to think of how many couples must remain childless because they simply don't have the money :(

Sarah- I agree with the others- if no AF in a couple of days maybe get a blood test done. It's sounding good though, extreme tiredness is an early preg sign :yes:

Craftymum- that's great your blood test was fine. Fingers crossed for DH's test :fingerscrossed:

Hels- I hope your headache goes away soon. Migraines are not very nice :hugs:

Britt- good luck for tomorrow!

We are thinking for now of converting his cot to the toddler bed position but we will have to child proof his room a little more- he loves powerpoints & everything on the changetable shelves lol.

I am so impatient, I just want this cycle to hurry up! I want a BFP and I want it NOW! :laughing:

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27% success rate, not sure about the IUI rate (Hels, you might know that one?). But the FS costs were minimal :$260 for both of us, and we get $230 back from Medicare. Its all pretty expensive, but if you lived in the states, you would be looking at $2000+ for an IUI per cycle! We are lucky here! :)

Wow, then we do have it better here then!

So do you get much of the monthly IUI or other costs back too, or is that not covered?

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The $600 is out-of-pocket expenses...it doesnt include what Medicare covers, but from what I understand, they cover quite a bit of it.

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Guess what?! I have only just remembered now that it is our 4 year wedding anniversary today! :eek: I can't believe we both forgot :(

[*Sparkles*]

Haylie - Happy anniversary, hopefully it's not too late to still celebrate it?

Lisa - Well for donor cycles it costs about $900 per cycle but we have a concession card so we don't pay anywhere near that. Medicare pays back 80% of the out of pockets too. So, really, it's quite affordable for us but for a couple without any concession it would be alot higher.

Your fees would be different as you wouldn't be using donor sperm, but if you needed medications for O then that would be charged differently. I think what Britt said, $600 would be fairly accurate but speak to medicare first about your threshold.

They do prefer fresh sperm but your DH can probably do some samples to be stored and frozen. Of course the donor sperm that we use is frozen. But it's very high quality and has 98% mobility and a count of approx 2000 swimmers per sample.
You would think that at least one would reach the target hey? :laughing:

Anyway, this is all hypothetical of course and most likely you won't need to do this.

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Wow! So many of you are going through so much to get your next little bundles! It makes me feel bad for complaining! I just wanted to say that I wish that everyone could get their BFPs and not go through the emotional, physical and financial burdens that you must be experiencing! A huge :thumbsup: and :hugs:to all the strong mums and women keeping it together!

Mum2mason - did i miss you say you are Haylie? Happy anniversary! DF and i did that with our three year "anniversary" in March. (3 years 'together' and Moo is nearly 2! Pretty Funny hey? LOL) When i moved Mia into her bed i spent the weekend making her room super safe. It's scary letting a nearly two year old loose in a room!

Might book in dr. I'm scared to in case it jinx's me and i get AF on the day or something. Surely 4 or 5 HPT's would show up a BFP yeah? Grrr. Anyone suggest a super sensitive brand i should try?

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Hels- wow, that's some good quality sperm!!

Sarah- yep my name is Haylie :D Good luck with the Dr, I think you are doing the right thing. Even if it's just to put your mind at ease (though I am hoping you will get a BFP!)

Thanks for the anniversary wishes. We ended up getting KFC for dinner lol because I said I can't be bothered cooking.

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Haylie - I think that's when you know you are a busy mum - when KFC is great cos it means you don't have to cook! PMSL! Every now and then i can't do it and DF runs and gets KFC and he is my knight in shining armour! How funny. As long as you're happy! So when are you testing this month? (if you don't mind me asking)

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Hehe I know what you mean- I don't even like KFC that much but I was so excited about it because it meant no cooking, and even better, no cleaning up!

I don't know when I will test..... I'm undecided.... I am seriously on a HPT ban because I always test every day from 8DPO onwards and I am sick of the BFN's. So I dunno, if I can hold out to 12DPO I will be doing well. AF is ALWAYS here before then anyway so I guess that's a good date to set.... so that's 8 days away :hissy:

I forgot to answer you question before- I think the First Response tests are good. I have never even gotten an evap line on them and never a false + so I would recommend them.

I usually use internet cheapies but also have a box of the digital ones that say "pregnant" or "not pregnant" instead of showing a line. I can't wait to use them!!! They aren't very sensitive though and say you shouldn't use them before your AF is due. Well since my AF comes early every month I have never gotten to use them yet.

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I LOVE Kfc chicken strips!!! I havent had fast food in so long...which is good, but every now and then its nice. :) Aporto is pretty good too for those nights you cant be bothered...

Sarah, is your dd opening doors yet? Forget letting a 2-yr old loose in his/her room...letting him/her loose in the house!!! Luckily when Carter wakes up, he usually comes straight to our room.

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Hi Britt! What is Aporto? :o

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I usually use internet cheapies but also have a box of the digital ones that say "pregnant" or "not pregnant" instead of showing a line. I can't wait to use them!!! They aren't very sensitive though and say you shouldn't use them before your AF is due. Well since my AF comes early every month I have never gotten to use them yet.

I have a box of those too...cant wait to use them after I have gotten a BFP so I can surprise dh with the test that is so blatantly obvious!! :laughing: Plus they would make good pics...

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Haylie, maybe you dont have them there?? Its flame grilled chicken fast food restaurant...mmm...kind of pricey tho...

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I have a box of those too...cant wait to use them after I have gotten a BFP so I can surprise dh with the test that is so blatantly obvious!! :laughing: Plus they would make good pics...

HAHA I plan on taking a photo of it for my avator! If you are going to use them to surprise DH you will have to do the test right before you show him because I think the word dissapears after about 15 mins or so. It's a shame because I would love to keep it for the scrapbook :laughing:


Haylie, maybe you dont have them there?? Its flame grilled chicken fast food restaurant...mmm...kind of pricey tho...

Mmmm, yummy! We don't have anything like that here, we live in a country town that doesn't have a lot.

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Oporto Yummy! My SIL used to work there so i always got free left over burgers and chickens! So good!

Britt- Thankfully Moo can't do the door thing although her bedroom door is always open. The house is great tho cos i can shut heaps of doors and the only thing she can do is go in the hallway and into our room in the morning. She has just started using chairs to climb onto benches but hasn't figured out how to open a door. Carter is only 2? (so funny cos i have looked at his birthday before but it didnt click how old he is!) He looks so much older from what i can see in your pic! WOW! When did he move to a bed and how did he go?

Haylie - I don't like KFC either but i also believe anything that someone else has cooked for dinner usually tastes great!

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Haylie, I know!! Its so lame the word disappears!! Dont they know that that beautiful word means more to us than anything?!?

Sarah, man...he started pushing chairs to use the MICROWAVE when he was like 14 months old! Started opening doors right before he turned two. He moved to his bed right after he turned two and did PRETTY well...he had about a week of getting up several times (like 10-15) a night...it didnt help that he was sick and everytime he would wake up with a stuffed nose, he would freak out. Anyway, that died down and once in a while he will get up once at about 4am, but otherwise normally comes into our room about 6.30. I miss the nights he would sleep for 12 hours straight! How does moo do in her bed??

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Oh my gosh Britt! That's crazy! Mia is a climber but not like that! Your little man has talent! Mia was awesome.She has been in a big bed for maybe 2 weeks and i had one bad day where it took 1 hr to get her to bed. Now (touch wood) i have not had to put her back once. She has come to our room maybe 4 times at her normal wakeup time but aside from that, nothing. I am so proud of her! Does Carter sleep on a pillow? I gave Mia one and it helped orient her head to the top of the bed so she no longer moves around alot. I know she is probably too young still. What do you think?

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Hey i have been wondering - when in your TTC journey did they look into things more or put you on clomid (question is for anyone)? I have an endometriosis appt on monday and it's probably my only opportunity to discuss any conception issues with a gyno type dr instead of my GP unless i want to go back on waiting list for public hospital. This will be my 5th cycle. Too early to think about it yeah?

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Sarah- I went and saw a Dr after 4 or 5 cycles so I don't think it's too early to talk to someone about it. It depends on the Dr but they should run some tests before putting you on clomid.

Mason has had a pillow for months now because he sleeps better with one. It keeps him up the right way and not flopped all over the cot.

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haylie thanks for that. I will talk to him on Monday. What tests would they do? Its having endo that is worrying me that's all.

Might book in BT tomorrow. I have 1 more HPT left and will try with FMU tomorrow. I so can't keep testing or sitting here wondering. I am being consumed!

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Carter also has a pillow...he gets so excited when we say "put your head on your pillow"...haha.

Sarah, I went to see my gyn to have my pap smear (lovely) and mentioned to him that we had been trying to get pg for a few months but that af hadnt returned after Carter. He then suspected pcos, did a vaginal ultrasound, sent me for bloodwork...all of which confirmed it. He prescribed clomid then and there but referred me to an endocrinologist who put me on metformin. Only after starting the met did I begin a cycle without meds. Did a few more rounds of clomid with no luck (altho I was o'ing), and only just saw the FS for the 1st time. I think its a balance of time and when you are ready to pursue treatment. I could have seen someone earlier, but didnt feel ready. I was convinced that I would get pg as soon as I started losing weight and almost 20kg later, nothing. So yeah, long story short, I was ttc about 3 months with no af when I first started investigations. Hope that helps, haha.

Ok girls, I really need to get to bed...its an early one tomorrow...

Night!!

xxx

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Lol it is consuming isn't it, it's so hard to just wait wait wait!! :hair:

The tests we had done before clomid were a sperm test for DH & a blood test to determine whether I was ovulating on my own at all. I also had an ultrasound done but it was just an external one so I will be getting an internal one done next cycle.

Night Britt :sleeping:

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Thanks Britt. I think I will ask just cos if there is something else i could be doing i'd like to be trying.

Off to bed too.

Have agood night girls :)

[2Pink4Me]

(cant go to bed on 99 posts LOL:D)

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Good night Sarah!

Happy 100 posts :party:

[Craftymum]

MOrning Girls :wave:,

Wow, it was very chatty in here last night! I had a craft workshop so didnt get home till really late....

Well I think I am going to have to cancel my ultrasound as I still have a very very light AF.... Thought it would of finished by now since I got it Sunday, but it's still really light. Annoying really as now I cant have one done till next Friday as thats the only day I have a babysitter and there is NO way Sarah will sit still in a pram whilst I have an internal done!

Mum2Moo – Re the pillow thing, I gave Sarah one last week, she’s only 13 months old but quite good in respect of pushing things away, and crying (very loudly) when something is wrong. She seems to love it! The first time she slept on it for her arvo sleep and slept nearly 3 hours – what bliss! It has seemed to have helped a little with her moving around the cot at night.

Hels & Britt – Thanks for all the info….. hopefully it wont come to that for me… just wanted an understanding just incase. Wow Hels, that’s a good sperm count you are using! Surely one of them would have to make it! Goodluck for next month…. Are you doing it again this month?

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Morning Lisa! What type of craft stuff do you do? Wish i was creative! I have just started quilting which I LOVE but am not great at it yet!

I read today that a number of people don't get BFPs on HPTs til they are a week or two late. Being that i think AF is 5 days late maybe there is hope :fingerscrossed:. I tested with FMU today but came back negative. I was up looking after Mia, who developed a sudden fear of the ladybirds and butterflies on her gorgeous quilt grrrr (see Britt i jinxed myself LOL). So because of that i had gone to loo like 10 times before i tested so it wasn't really FMU. I am going to make an effort to take a :chillpill: today and let whatever happens happen (still so frustrating tho).

At least I am a little less emotional today (don't know how cos i barely slept last night!)

Hope everyone has a nice day

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Sarah - I would still book in for a blood test today if you can, then you will get the results back on Monday!!!! :thumbsup: 5 days past AF...... I'd be taking the blood test!!!

I mainly do knitting, card making and scrapbooking..... would love to learn crochet, and I envy people who can do patchwork/quilting!

Well just rang the u/sound place and I can still have it done even though on tail end of AF.... which is good. They just said it may be a little uncomfortable :o. Isnt it anyway! I had one with DD at 7 weeks gestation....

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Morning gorgeous girls! Well on CD30, 10 dpo my temp dropped and AF is here. :( Short LP and SOOO frustrating! I guess I should be used to it hey!:rolleyes: Only thing that helps me is that we see the FS in a week and a half! So hopefully something will start to happen!

Mum2Moo--Book the test woman! :raspberry:

Crafty-Good luck with the ultrasound!

Britt--you know were to find me :p Will hopefully talk soon. Hope your having a good day! I fought off the urge to gorge myself with cupcakes!

Hope the rest of you girls have a great start to the weekend!

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Hi gals,

Sarah, :laughing:. Im sorry, I couldnt help but laugh at Moos sudden fear of her quilt! :laughing: Thats too cute...frustrating for you tho Im sure. :hugs:

Crafty, YAY for your ultrasound! I was going to say that they can still do it with your af (yuck!)...and yes, they are uncomfortable...esp if you are having a vaginal one, which I am assuming you are? Its the worst when they press on your cervix to try and see your ovaries! Yikes! Take some panadol before you go! :yes:

Hi Crystal...we WILL chat soon!

Well, appt went well. I felt bad taking Carter because of all the childless women and couples in there, but I didnt have a choice. Not only did I feel bad for that, but he decided to throw several tantrums, scream, sing very loudly, run around, etc while we were there. :o I was SO embarassed and am thinking we may need to pop him in daycare for when I go in for scans. Blood tests arent that bad because you are pretty much in and out (early in the morning tho!), but when you are waiting around for an appt, thats when it gets difficult. Anyway, all went well...the injections are SO easy and you dont even feel them go in! DH is very impressed that I now have a sharps container, :laughing:. 1st down, countless more to go! I go in for my 2nd bt next Tues. (sigh) This is going to be an exhausting cycle!

Ok, off to take a little snooze with Carter...be back later!

xxx

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Go Britt - Glad it went so well for you. You are so tough! Like i said before i just couldn't do it. You're awesome! :yelclap:Fingers crossed it works straight away for you. I'm sure everyone understood you bringing Carter and his tantrums. I know it doesn't help much but at the time when Mia chucks a big one i try to think that most people are probably more upset for you than at you! That sometimes makes it easier. Or i go to my "happy place" LOL! Once again - good on you though.

The bug thing is funny now - not at 2:00am! All of a sudden i heard screaming like those intense horrified screams and there's Mia yelling "oh no! Bucks" (which is how she says bugs). She would not go back to bed! Heres me last night bragging on here about her beautiful quilt and bedspread and how well she sleeps! Got my own back LOL.

So i didn't book test. Too tired and i don't want to jinx AF. Oh well. I'll try not to complain too much over this weekend - going to be a long one!

[*Sparkles*]

:rolleyes: now now girls, no complaining about internal ultrasounds please, imagine having them every month like me, and add to that a procedure similar to a pap smear!

I am only kidding, I think I have gotten used to them lol. But yes they are very unpleasant, especially if you are not used to it. I think the inside of my hoo ha must be like a rubber boot by now as I don't feel a thing :laughing:

I had problems with Reece screaming during one U/S so now I have him beside me in his pusher and I feed him biscuits and water through the whole thing. He is such a little guts that he is quite happy to lay there and stuff his face lol.

Sarah - Yes definitely go for a BT, the suspense must be killing you! It was hard enough for me to be 2 days late, if it was 5 days I would be out of my mind by now lol.

Lisa - Good luck for today. I am definitely on for next cycle, my U/S is booked in for next friday :thumbsup:

Britt - Sounds like the injections went well, YAY! How long will you take them for and remind me again why you need them, eg. what do they do?

I woke up feeling much better today :smiliedance:We are going out this arvo as I have a few things to get. Reece loves going to the shops so it's always fun.

Wow, I feel in such a great positive mood right now, I took 2 maca root with brekky. I want to open the front door and run up the street doing Julie Andrews "The hills are alive with the sound of music!"

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Hi Hels - I was thinking about you earlier. So glad to hear you are happy and feeling so positive. I love having those days and wish i could always be like that. Glad to hear you are going well though.

(BTW The hoo ha rubber boot thing had me PMSL! Wish mine was like a rubber boot *hint of sarcasm* :P )

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Before i disappear for the arvo just thought i'd add this. Britt - this is a pic of the really scary bugs that had us up all night :laughing: (not the best pic of DD but you get the idea!)

Just thought you'd get a grin when you saw how scary they are! LOL

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll245/mum2moo/DSC01213-1.jpg

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Dangerkitty – Sorry to hear that AF has arrived for you….. goodluck with the FS appointment!

Did someone say cupcakes – I Cant resist them!!! Mmmmmm

Britt – I know how you feel re taking your little ones to your appts…. I took my DD to my doctors appt the other day, and he was running 30 mins late and she just had enough after waiting that long. I then stuck around and had my blood tests done where she chucked an even bigger tantrum! I can only get a sitter on Fridays which makes it hard. Can your DH look after him whilst you have your appt, or is he in there with you?

Mum2Moo – :shame:You norty girl…… Do I have to come over and drag you over to get the test!
What a gorgeous quilt too for your DD! Did you make it? Very envious of your talents!

Hels – :smiliedance:Yay, glad you are in such a good mood…. Does the macca help with that? Maybe I should start taking that! Good to hear you are going to continue this coming month with the IUI. How old is your little one?

Had the internal ultrasound this morning and it wasnt painful at all. AF was all but 5% gone..... The sonographer talked to me the whole way through telling me what she was looking for, what were the signs and how I was looking.....

So basically she told me that she could see nothing major. No pollups, no signs of Endo, and said the lining looked really good for implantation. Doc will have full results on Monday but sounds like nothing major there.

Also called past DR's and got hubby's sperm result and the doctor had noted all good and no further action. I guess I will find out the full result Monday and if they give me a count??

So all in all, all 3 tests seem at this stage to be showing normality, so I guess we just keep BD'ing... and fingers crossed!

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Hey Lisa thats great news about all your tests. Glad that you had U/S done cos at least now you don't have to think about it. And glad it wasn't so bad. Did you find it weird looking at the screen? I, in some weird way, loved seeing my colposcopy being done on the screen. I found it so interesting! You must be so happy with everything going well.

I wish i made that quilt! Its called Gossamer Wings by kidsline and i put up pic to show everyone how unscary it is cos moo was terrified of it last night. I'm still laughing that she was so scared. Poor little thing. I have made 2 and 1/2 quilts so far but am getting there. My newest one is a shaggy quilt where the seams from each patch are the right way around and cut so they fray. Its a great effect and should look good when its done. Love to get into scrapbooking but like everything it seems like an expensive hobby.

Seems like everyone is having a good day!

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Dangerkitty- sorry to hear AF came :( :hugs:

Hels- it's great you are so positive! Hopefully it will bring you luck this cycle :fingerscrossed:

Sarah- LOL that's funny about moo!! I love her quilt, it's so pretty. My god daughter has the same set I think.

Britt- I felt a bit like that the other day with Mason in the waiting room. Although my FS also has gyno patients come to him, there was a couple about our age in there and I assumed they were there for fertility treatment. They kept looking at Mason and I felt so guilty! It's hard on them having to wait around as well isn't it, it gets so boring for them.

Craftymum- that's great your results came back fine. Did you try the vitamin B 6? It has helped my spotting in my LP, although it's still not quite long enough.

I have got the worst pain in my right kidney area. It's so sore :( Had my blood test today, hopefully by monday I can have it confirmed that I did ovulate.

I bought something for the baby today- a little white bonds cotton nighty for hospital. Soo adorable and tiny! I got size 0000 which hopefully won't be too small as Mason was 9 pounds 4 ounces born and pretty much went straight into 000's :eek:

[Craftymum]

Thanks Sarah & Haylie, yes it's a relief to have that all out of the way....

Haylie, how cute! I've still got all Sarahs stuff. I was packing it away yesterday and looking at the 0000 items - they were so cute :(

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0000 stuff makes me cry! It reminds me how precious little people are and how quickly they grow.

Maybe Haylie you are buying stuff cos your brain is telling you this is your cycle! I have all my fingers crossed for you :fingerscrossed:. Why is your kidney sore? And do you always have BT to see if you are ovulating?

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It's so sad to think that they were once so little and now they are monsters! :laughing:

I went through all Mason's stuff yesterday because my friend just found out she is having a baby boy. A lot of the shirts and jumpsuits had yellow marks on the front of them which I can't figure out how they got there :confused: So I am giving all of them to charity. I have kept aside all the special outfits, like his outfit he wore home from hospital, and just a few of my favourites. The rest I am offering to my friend to borrow. I think I would like new stuff for the next one anyway because a lot of it was stuff that was given to us as gifts and I don't particularly like it :o Plus I LOVE shopping, especially for baby stuff!

[Craftymum]

Ive got some salmon for dinner tonight...... anyone got any easy ways of cooking it.... could I just grill it in a pan with some cracked pepper & lemon juice?

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Maybe Haylie you are buying stuff cos your brain is telling you this is your cycle! I have all my fingers crossed for you :fingerscrossed:. Why is your kidney sore? And do you always have BT to see if you are ovulating?

:laughing: I'd like to agree except I have been buying stuff for months now. And I've been buying maternity clothes for a year :o

Yep I always get a blood test done to confirm I've ovulated. It doesn't cost me anything and it's nice to know for SURE that I have, even though I am usually pretty sure going by my O pain & temp chart.

I have no idea why my kidney is sore. I didn't drink much water yesterday so I'm drinking heaps today. It might be a little bit of an infection? If the pain gets too bad I will see if I can get into the Dr's.

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Hi girls,

Sarah, hahahah...yep, those are some scary bugs alright! :)

Hels, not sure how long to take them for yet...at least 4 days and then regular blood tests will tell me for how much longer to take them. I take them to help develop and mature my eggs...lol about the rubber boot...I fear I will be like that after too long, haha.

Lisa, dh doesnt come to the appts with me unfortunately, and from what i can tell, most other women dont bring their partners. Probably because you have to go in so often that they just cant take that much time off work. Ill sort something else out tho. Yay for your test results!! Thats such good news that all is looking good and healthy. Means its only a matter of time for you! :)

Haylie, you for sure o'd! Sorry you're having kidney pain tho...wonder what thats from?!? You have so inspired me to buy an outfit for bub #2! I have been looking for a "going home" outfit, but havent found anything I like yet. Its fun, isnt it??

[honeydew]

Ive got some salmon for dinner tonight...... anyone got any easy ways of cooking it.... could I just grill it in a pan with some cracked pepper & lemon juice?

Nope sorry. I don't eat salmon or tuna, or any sort of fish! Only seafood I will eat is calamari- yummy!

This morning when I was emptying the bins, I almost :barf: It would be too early at 5DPO to be a preg sign hey? (clinging onto any sort of hope!)

[Craftymum]

Haylie - re the VitB6, been taking it last cycle, but have just ran out. My LP was 2 days longer last month... not sure if it was a result of the VitB6 or Vitex or what!

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Haylie, you for sure o'd! Sorry you're having kidney pain tho...wonder what thats from?!? You have so inspired me to buy an outfit for bub #2! I have been looking for a "going home" outfit, but havent found anything I like yet. Its fun, isnt it??

Ooh it's so exciting shopping for a baby. It will be even better when shopping for a baby that is actually on it's way :laughing:

For a going home outfit, we are going to buy 2 really special ones- a pink and a blue. And I will pack both in my hospital bag with a pink and a blue blanket so we can bring our baby home in a colour instead of neutral.

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That's great craftymum! It could be the vitex but I would think it's the vitamin B6- I am in love with that stuff! I forgot to take it yesterday so I took one this morning and will take another late tonight to make up for it. How many mg are yours?

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Haylie - try warming up a cup of water and drinking that. It always helps if i have a backache. Maybe too early to be a sign that you are UTD but maybe not. Mixed with the fact your brain just happened to tell you to get that jumpsuit thing i have hope for you (if that helps :))

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Thanks Sarah, it's funny how your mind plays tricks on you though hey. Like if I had of felt this same way last week when emptying the bin I wouldnt have thought anything of it. But since it happened during the 2ww I assume it MUST be because I am pregnant :laughing:

I will try the warm water now....

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Lisa try this with your salmon.

OMG even the thought of eating fish is making me feel :barf:

http://www.naturalandtasty.co.uk/main_salmon.htm

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Yeah, must admit Im not a fish fan either, sorry Lisa. Try allrecipes.com...they have great recipes and reviews.

[honeydew]

I have drunk a mug of warm water, it made me want to :barf: but it was comforting at the same time (if that makes sense?!)

[*Sparkles*]

Sarah - That's a great photo and the bedding looks gorgeous. We bought the kidsline zanzibar jungle range for Reece, I remember drooling over the pretty girls bedding at the time lol.

Lisa - I love salmon, my DH actually cooks it in foil with a hint of lemon and some peppers.
Reece is 14 mths old, he was born on Australia day 2007. It was actually his due date too so I was very pleased that he came on time. He also got a commemorative silver spoon to mark the occasion :)

I must admit, I do have DH with me when I get my insemination done as it's a bit more involved. But for scans, blood tests and anything else I take Reece with me.

Anyone fancy a little photo bragging? I'd love to see some photos of your little one's :D

Here's my favourites of Reece;

Newborn (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Newborn.jpg)
Four days old (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Asleep.jpg)
First smile (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/7weeks.jpg)(approx 7 weeks)
Computer geek (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/ComputerGeek.jpg)
Winning trophies (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Champion.jpg)(at a baby show)
Loving the Bumbo seat (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Bumbo.jpg)
Mucky Pup (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Muckypup.jpg)
Professional photo (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/63.jpg)
First christmas (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Xmas14.jpg)
First birthday (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Bday14.jpg)

[plumptobump]

Oh Hels....he is just too gorgeous!!

Ok, so I would go BUCK WILD if I were to post pics on here because I have SSSOOO many good ones, haha. So, if you want to see, just go to:
www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com)
Username: brittlouwrens
password: carter

There are TONS of photos on there... :)

[Craftymum]

Thanks for the tips re salmon girls, I've found a recipe to try, but will try both of yours next time!

Will have a looksee at the pics shortly too - DD is giving me grief today, every nappy has been the yukkiest poohey nappy - Sorry TMI!

Hels - your little one isnt too much older than Sarah then - she was 7th march 07 - we call her our little 737 after the aeroplane - LOL!

I will upload some pics too soon!

[Craftymum]

Anyone fancy a little photo bragging? I'd love to see some photos of your little one's :D

Here's my favourites of Reece;

Newborn (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Newborn.jpg)
Four days old (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Asleep.jpg)
First smile (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/7weeks.jpg)(approx 7 weeks)
Computer geek (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/ComputerGeek.jpg)
Winning trophies (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Champion.jpg)(at a baby show)
Loving the Bumbo seat (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Bumbo.jpg)
Mucky Pup (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Muckypup.jpg)
Professional photo (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/63.jpg)
First christmas (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Xmas14.jpg)
First birthday (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby/Bday14.jpg)

Hels - Reece is gorgeous! My fav is him in the bumbo seat! He has a really nice hair colour too - very similar to my DD!

Ooo seeing those newborn shots makes me mighty clucky!

[Craftymum]

Britt – Oh Carter is gorgeous! Wow – you have a heap of pics!!! Lucky you don’t scrapbook or Carter would have a HUGEEEEEEEEE album! Hahaha

I love the pics of you guys kissing him in the snow, and especially of him mowing the lawns nude – how adorable… definatley photo’s for his 18th/21st!

[plumptobump]

Hahah, Lisa, I know....thats why I thought maybe I shouldnt post any, because how do you choose?? We have this great SLR camera (we got 1 1/2 yrs ago, so you can tell the difference in quality before the SLR haha), so we have no excuse to use it! In saying that, I havent taken any new photos of him in ages...must bring out the camera again! :) And re the scrapbooking, thats exactly why I dont do it, haha...I thought about it and got so overwhelmed!

[2Pink4Me]

I LOVE photos! YAY!

Hels - wow. What a beautiful little man you have! I am so jealous of your newborn pic - its fantastic! I only got a phone camera one. The computer geek one is fantastic! Had me LOLing! Those pics made me clucky too!

Britt - he is gorgeous too! Look at that hair and those eyes! I have a pic of Mia with two dummies as well (will dig it up for you). The fam photo in the snow is beautiful! You can see how much he looks like you! Will enjoy looking through the rest - theres so many! LOL

Looking forward to seeing everyone elses pics if they put them up.

Here are mine:

My fave pic! (taken 2ish weeks ago)
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll245/mum2moo/DSC009742.jpg

Funny Face
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll245/mum2moo/100_1640.jpg

6 Weeks old
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll245/mum2moo/Picture041.jpg

Craft a couple of weks ago
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll245/mum2moo/DSC01072-Copy.jpg

I love this one too
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll245/mum2moo/DCP_5579.jpg

My fave one of us
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll245/mum2moo/100_0598-Copy.jpg

Hope that worked!

[honeydew]

Loving all the photos!! Everyone's bubs are gorgeous!

Here are a couple of my fave of Mason-

Brand New (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/13-1.jpg)

First day home from hospital (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/14.jpg)

First Christmas (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/21110610.jpg)

Learning to stand (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/17.jpg)

First Easter (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/8.jpg)

Birthday Boy (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/party5.jpg)

Winter Baby (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/5-2.jpg)

With his best mate Harry (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/MasonHarry.jpg)

Cheeky (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/69.072.jpg)

Ready for swimming (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/17100713.jpg)

OOPS I maybe got a bit carried away with photos! :o They only go up until last year because I gave up on photobucket and now use facebook to share my photos.

[2Pink4Me]

Another beautiful little man! We have some gorgeous little people on this thread!

Mason looks so cheeky! His eyes are beautiful especially in the pics when he is wearing blue! I am in love with the christmas pic. How gorgeous! How are you feeling Haylie? Does your back feel better?

Btw he looks like such a Mason. Really suits him!

[Mariposa]

New thread here (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=168674) ladies :)