persistent nappy rash

[borntobemummy]

We don't know what to do anymore. DD has had a bad rash for weeks and weeks now, it just won't go away. We went to the doctor twice, first time, he gave canesten because he said it was thrush...well it wasn't:rolleyes: Second time, he said we should change the nappies more frequently, and have nappy free time, and he gave antibiotics and cream. nothing is helping. now we are trying to TT in hope that that will help, she doesn't like having her nappy off, so it's tricky.
I don't know what to do, she sometimes screams/cries in pain wen she does a wee because it stings so much...I feel like an awful parent:crying: we're even using some disposables to see if that will make a difference.
Is there anything we can do to help her?

[our little treasures]

Other than canestan and zink and castor oil I don't have much else... So what we do is put canestan on then zinc over the top to stop the wee getting to it and irratating it.

[Shanaynay]

Ouch! Are you sure it's not anything fungal? DD had a fungal rash when she was about 1, I thought it was regular nappy rash as it looked like it. I bought some "Hydrozole" from the chemist and it cleared it up in no time :thumbsup:

[reAllytee]

Im thinking like Phin that it may be fungal so maybe trying to get a doctor who will have a proper look is the best thing. Which will mean going back & seeing that nice doctor for Isi & yourself :p

Otherwise for now have you tried something more natural like Paw Paw cream or even Brauers Nappy Rash Cream because being natural they are kinder on bums & also wont wreck your MCN's. I found anytime Boof has a slight rash the cream works almost instantly & isnt greasy like most.

[Adria]

Could it be an allergy? My DD was itchy down there, Dr thought it was thrush, turned out to be dairy intolerance. I'd keep pestering Dr or childhood nurse. She help to sort ours out.

[juzzy]

I agree with Ally and Phin. Could be fungal if it is so persistant.

Id also try to see another Doctor just incase. A second opinion never hurt. And id be more insistent with the Dr about what you think it is. Most Dr will just do a quick diagnosis rather than listen.

Good luck.

[borntobemummy]

the last doctor said that it was fungal or bacterial (don't remember) and we have been using hydrozole. I feel just awful for her. I guess we do need to go back to the nice doctor:o

[Snugglepot]

And do a canasten rinse with your anppies. DDs thrush kept coming back until I did.

Good Luck

[punkbaby]

Hyrdozole is awesome as said above ^^^ just put a small amount on then a thick layer of zinc over the top so it actually gets to soak in you will notice a huge difference!

[forbetoel]

Sounds fungal to me...get some canestin.:)

[borntobemummy]

And do a canasten rinse with your anppies. DDs thrush kept coming back until I did.

Good Luck

how do you do that?

[pookiesossige]

You can get a bottle of canesten rinse stuff from the laundry aisle at the supermarket, I used to use it when Ariene had a bout of thrush and I didn't want it spreading to Ronan.

You say you've been using the Hydrozole now for a while- is it possible that she's become resistant to that particular type of anti-fungal prep? This can happen- the solution is then to change to another antifungal cream that kills a different strain of fungus or something-or-other. :fingerscrossed: you have this sorted soon, poor darling!

Daktozin has worked for us in the past- it's both anti-fungal and anti-bacterial.

[Blueberry Crumble]

I would seriously just use sposies. They draw the wetness away straight away.

[borntobemummy]

I would seriously just use sposies. They draw the wetness away straight away.

we have been using them for the last couple of days and it seems to be slowly helping, hopefully we can get past this and she can be free of it

[BabyJoy]

Another thought.... what sort of cloth nappies are you using? Synthetic fibres can cause rashes in some children. Are they "working" - ie. wicking moisture away from baby's bottom into the nappy? They could have detergent residue build-up.
Since I stopped using nappies with suedefleece lining, my daughter's rash hasn't come back and it was bad for a long time.

[borntobemummy]

we use BBBs and mandy macs with pul covers

[Shazza]

Hiya :wave:

Another thought is to make sure you aren't using bubblebath or anything because that might irritate it more. I also use oats in Coops bath when he has a rash of some sort and it clears up nearly o'night. I just put the oats in one of DH's old socks (clean of course) and pop it in the bath!

Shaz :)

[HoopDeeDoo]

Look at what she's eating and drinking aswell because it can make a huge difference. Anything with a lot of preservatives, or she may have an allergy or intollerence that is showing up the most in her most sensitive areas

:hugs: good luck

We used to use a huge amount od BOZ cream and then another layer of plain zinc cream on top to thicken it uo so it didn't rub off as quick

[Sheer Bliss]

DD had a persistent rash a few months ago - i tried disposables too - but nothing worked excet nappy free time - & i mean constant nappy free time. I put her in a skirt (to stop her from touching too much) and no undies for about a week. She actually TT'd in that time, even though i didn't think she was ready. I only put a nappy on for naps & night time.

I have also heard that pure silk liners have healing properties? Not sure where to get from though - sorry.

Hydrozole just made her worse - the steroids in it may have been irrtating her the dr suggested.

[borntobemummy]

the rash is finally healing up yay:smiliedance: We've been using paw paw ointment and disposable nappies and it seems to be working....finally!!! Now I have to work out how to prevent it recurring:detective:

[bambino]

Sudocreme :thumbsup:

DS had real bad nappy rash that blistered just recently. We tried everything also and nothing worked.

I was recommended Sudocreme and it made the redness go away overnight then another day or so before the blisters healed and disappeared.

Now we use it at every nappy change to prevent also.

Sudoceme is also good on othe parts of the body for things like dry skin and other irritations and bites.

P.S we use disposables

[borntobemummy]

it's back:banghead: :hair: :rolleyes:

it was gone after using disposables and now we are back to mcns it has come back. I don't want to keep buying disposables, it defeats the purpose of using cloth

[missie_mack]

Have you considered changing your laundry detergent? In case its a dermatitis or eczema. I find bathing with bi carb eases the discomfort and has healing properties (I even use this on myself when everything else fails). I also think the age can have a big effect on sore bums. Some babies wees and poo's are a little more potent or acidic at certain times and of course it could be heat related depending on where you live (ie a heat rash of sorts)

I love the paw paw cream. Best $3 we ever spent. Really I think I would be considering asking for a referral to a skin specialist. I would worry that the rashes might return when she is toilet trained and wears knickers.

[Butterfliez]

Oh no! You poor thing! My DD had nappy rash for the first time last week because she had done a poo during the night and I never heard her and she also never cried. I felt like the worst mother because she had been sitting in it all night (luckily she was in a BBB and it had absorbed it unlike sposies which they would just sit in). Anyway, I gave her heaps of nappy free time, but here's my secret...I put breast milk on about 6 times in the space of an hour and then all throughout the day. I just let it air dry before putting her nappy back on. Guess what??? It cleared it up in a day! Wonderful stuff! :wizard:

HTH and I hope it clears up soon :fingerscrossed:

[ButterflyMama]

Medihoney all the way.. it's the only thing that works for us..

[Jeclipse]

Here are a few things that always helped me:


Sudocream
Nappy-off time.. just place him on a towel
Change the nappy more often
check nappy every 30 mins.. just a quick peek to see if it needs changing
and baths with soap-free baby bathHeath had this problem awhile ago, pain in the backside to get rid of.

Hope it clears up soon:hugs:

[Adria]

we use BBBs and mandy macs with pul covers

Pardon my lack of knowledge but are Mandy Macs all hemp, no other fabrics?

[ButterflyMama]

Pardon my lack of knowledge but are Mandy Macs all hemp, no other fabrics?

Yep! Raw hemp fibre.

[Adria]

Borntobemummy are you using a liner?

[borntobemummy]

Pardon my lack of knowledge but are Mandy Macs all hemp, no other fabrics?

it's actually got a synthetic liner attached, but we don't use these at night


Borntobemummy are you using a liner?

yes, polar fleece and a disposable liner

[Adria]

it's actually got a synthetic liner attached, but we don't use these at night



yes, polar fleece and a disposable liner
:detective:... Do you get a rash over night?
DS was getting a rash from the J&J liners (why i gave them up) I think he is also getting a rash from the fleece.
Once the rash clears have you tried without the liners??

[borntobemummy]

haha, just came across this thread when googling for answers for DS1's nappy rash. He is now the same age as DD was when I started this thread, how bizarre:dizzy: I wonder if it is age related?:detective: DS2 gets a bit red sometimes but clears up easily, DS1 has blisters that just won't go away just like DD did.
What ended up helping DD's rash was I broke my arm about 4 days after my last post in this thread. I broke it completely in half and had to have a cast on for 3 months and a further three months of physio to regain movement in my fingers, hand, wrist, elbo and shoulder. So, DH had to take care of everything, so switched to disposables, and she got better.

I really don't want to give up on cloth if possible, we seem to be able to keep on top of it, but it doesn't ever heal enough to go away completely. I've just ordered some silk liners and cotton velour liners so we can have natural fibres against his skin. This freaks me out because those won't keep him dry, but I've seen so many people swear by doing this, so I thought I'd give it a try. I think it started from the long period of rain we just had and lack of sun for the nappies and not being able to smell his poos in mcns, so I keep going to change his nappy and then get surprised that there is a poo in it. I also, just bought some canestan rinse and will use that and I want to get some moogoo to try too. Any other ideas?

[reAllytee]

If he has blisters I advise you see a doctor hun as he may have an infection which isnt clearing which is why its sticking around !

Using the canestan will help but you will need something for his bum if it is !

[HoopDeeDoo]

I'd do a hot wash with the canestine rinse stuff in the wash, make sure you do an extra rinse after because it can put a film on your nappies making them less absorbent. Lots of time in the sun to dry

Also if you don't use cloth wipes start using them

And switch to a fragrance free detergent if you aren't currently using one. I use planet ark aware sensitive, and you only need a tiny amount, lasts for ages and works well :thumbsup:

[borntobemummy]

I washed them on cold today as I usually do..oops. I usually do a quick 30 wash and I think the highest temp you can do on that is 30degrees, is that hot? I didn't do an extra rinse either, I didn't know I had to. Good thing there is plenty of sun today!
I already use cloth wipes with just water and use the planet ark powder, not the sensitive one though but only use 1/3 of a teaspoon.
How often do you need to do the canestan?

DS1 woke up at 3am this morning writhing in pain, DH ended up taking him to the hospital at 5am and the Dr he saw had no idea and was implying that we were neglecting DS because he had never seen a nappy rash and had no idea what that was:rolleyes: he was going to see the children's doctor but he was held up with an emergency and DH ended up just bringing him back home because he was doing better at that stage and DH had to go to work. We suspect it is a UTI and will take him to the Dr when DH gets home. He screams when he feels wee coming then nothing comes out and he looks on the floor as if it has leaked out but there is nothing there. poor little guy:(

[HoopDeeDoo]

poor little guy

I don't do the canestan thing regularly, only if they have a bad rash, stinky inserts or if I get a second hand nappy that smells bad. Not sure on the temp thing, my machine has hot/warm/cold settings, but I don't think 30 degrees is hot?

[Opinionated]

I can't use any detergent on my nappies at all, even sensitive detergent. Once the kids get wet, the combination of the wee and the detergent residue starts burning them. I wash in cold and always get my nappies outside to sanitise. In bad weather, I put them no an airer in the sunniest window to sanitise.

I previously tried all the creams, all the rinses, you name it. What works is nothing. No soap no cream, no detergent. Water, sun, air and very frequent changing (as soon as you notice they have got damp). I also avoid pul as covers and use wool as my first choice. Wool breathes more and keeps them drier than pul.

[reAllytee]

60 degrees should be the hottest you have it hun !

If he has a UTI then that could be why he has a bad rash because if his wee is acidic then it will be burning him iykwim !

Get it checked out hun cause you dont want it getting bad as they can cause problems with their kidneys !

[kuddles]

60 degrees should be the hottest you have it hun !

If he has a UTI then that could be why he has a bad rash because if his wee is acidic then it will be burning him iykwim !

Get it checked out hun cause you dont want it getting bad as they can cause problems with their kidneys !

Bepanthan is the only thing that helps my bubs nappy rash. It creates a thin barrier that is supposed to let the skin still breathe. That and paw paw cream.
His sensitive skin reacts to sudocream.