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mummy2sophie
19-10-2007, 08:22
What are your thoughts on preference voting?

This is from http://www.aec.gov.au/Voting/count.htm

On your ballot you have to put no. 1 for your first preferred candidate and then no.2 in the box for your next preferred candidate, and so on, until all the boxes are filled. If you do not do this, your vote does not count.

"First, all the number ‘1’ votes are counted for each candidate. If a candidate gets more than 50% of the formal first preference votes then they are immediately elected.
If no candidate has an absolute majority, the candidate with the fewest votes is excluded. These votes are then transferred to the other candidates according to the second preferences shown by voters on these ballot papers.
If still no candidate has an absolute majority, again the remaining candidate with the fewest votes is excluded and these votes are transferred. This process will continue until one candidate has more than half the total votes cast and is declared ‘elected’.
This voting system is called preferential voting and has been used in Australian federal elections since 1918."

My DH is Canadian and voting for the first time in a federal election and is unhappy about preference voting. He thinks it should be first past the post style like they have in Canada and the US. In the US you just make a tick in a box and that is your vote, regardless of how the candidate performs. Hence the view that if you don't vote Republic or Democrat then you are "throwing your vote away".

In Australia it looks like Rudd would win if it were first past the post style (he's still preferred PM). But preference voting makes it difficult to know who would actually get it. The primary vote does not necessarily indicate who will win in the end.

The question is: Should we be forced to outlay our preferences in this manner? Or would you rather have the primary vote only?

forbetoel
19-10-2007, 09:08
I like the present system. A lot of people vote greens (or other smaller party) knowing they wont get in, and give their preference to one of the major parties, to have at least a say in the bigger picture, but knowing that their number one preference still has an impact.

Phyllis Stein
19-10-2007, 09:24
There are a number of pros and cons to preferential voting IMO, but I think on the whole, I 'prefer' it. :)

One thing I do dislike is when people don't number their own preferences, so allow their first preference to dictate the others. Or when they just vote according to a parties 'how to vote' card. Defeats the purpose in a way.

MariaO
19-10-2007, 09:26
While all votings systems have their pros and cons, I believe that preference voting, or even proportional representation is fairer overall than first past the post.

mummy2sophie
19-10-2007, 09:44
Yes I hate those "how to vote" cards as well. I think everyone should research each candidate and work out which ones work out best for them. I hate the deals that go on based on those how to vote cards.

What about voting at all? In a democracy should you have the option of not voting at all? DH was shocked when I said he'd be fined if he didn't vote.