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Kizmet
15-10-2007, 15:57
Are you allowed to take nurofen whilst breastfeeding? I have heard that you can't take it until bubs is 6 months of age as that is when they can take nurofen is that true?:detective:

Tan-mumof3
15-10-2007, 16:04
Im pretty sure you can't take it while BF, not sure about the 6 month thing.
My midwifes said it is okay to take voltaren while bf which is similar to nurofen as it is an anti-inflammatory also.

♥Heaven Sent♥
15-10-2007, 16:40
I have asked my doctor and the pharmacist and they said it is ok to take.

I have taken all through bf ds and he hasn't been affected.Even though ds is asthmatic and not suppose to have neurofen it hasn't set him off so im guessing not a great deal goes through the milk.

Noah_and_Elijah
15-10-2007, 16:41
My Middie told me to take nurofen to help with the swelling of my cha cha after birth and the pain of my milk coming in!

I took it like it was going out of fashion and my DS was breastfed.

EandN
15-10-2007, 16:42
You shoud not take nurofen while breasfeeding or pregnant. I think it says on the packet.
Nurofen for children can't be taken untill their 4 months or something but its different to the adults one.
I woudn't do it, take panadol.
Why risk it, as the medicine help line told me before they don't kow the full extent of the problems it can cause.

♥Heaven Sent♥
15-10-2007, 16:43
http://foodsafetymatters.gov.au/phs/Documents/cyhu/28106.pdf



anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofen (Nurofen, Actoprofen) and
naproxen (Naprogesic, Naprosyn) are very effective, but should be taken
in low doses for short periods of time only.
Creams and sprays available for muscle aches and pains

Mum&bubs
15-10-2007, 16:50
I was told by my doctor not to take it while breastfeeding but after agony period pains I came on bubhub and asked (there is a thread somewhere) everyone said it was okay but I didn't take the risk anyways.

Noah_and_Elijah
15-10-2007, 16:53
I just checked the box and it doesn't say anything about breastfeeding only not to take it while pregnant.

reAllytee
15-10-2007, 23:20
Normal Neurofen is fine for short periods of time while b/f but its the Neurofen Plus thats the one you must steer clear of as it has codiene which is dangerous to bubs.

I had to take it a few weeks ago when i hurt my back & my doctor who isnt one to give meds or the likes advised to have normal Neurofen as its safe.

Not sure about through pregnancy though so i would check with your g.p or chemist.

Kizmet
15-10-2007, 23:22
doesnt panadeine forte have codeine in it? because i have been taking that for my TN:no:

punkbaby
15-10-2007, 23:28
Its the ibrufon (sp?) thats apparently not recommended during pregnancy and breastfeeding :) panadeine forte is fine as long as your not overdosing on it :) its when its taken long term


small doses for a short period of time to treat specific pain could be safely taken in the second and third trimesters. Heavy use may also cause a withdrawal syndrome in the newborn infant.

Kizmet
15-10-2007, 23:31
:no: im stressing it may cause withdrawal! I dont use it every four hours every day as such. Only when I need it and take one tablet then see if i need the other one. Oh god trying really hard not to stress why didnt my obstetrician tell me this:banghead:

mumzdaword
15-10-2007, 23:33
Panadeine forte is a big no no during pregnancy.... id stop taking it and go see the gp if i were you...or even the pharmacist...

Panadeine forte is a Catagory C drug and can be Dangerous

Kizmet
15-10-2007, 23:34
i was given it by two different obstetricians and was given it in hospital for 3 days while i was there:gloomy:

what are the risks? oh god I feel like the most terrible woman alive right now

punkbaby
15-10-2007, 23:36
My dentist and ob told me panadeine forte was fine as did emergency providing it was for a few days not long term i remember freaking out at the time and they stressed it was better to take it and not be in pain which in turn would stress me even more and cause stress to bubs.

I would ring 13health i think kimzet i know that i asked over and over and they said it was fine with me that nurofen was the no no

punkbaby
15-10-2007, 23:37
i was given it by two different obstetricians and was given it in hospital for 3 days while i was there:gloomy:

what are the risks? oh god I feel like the most terrible woman alive right now

Its pretty obvious you are pregnant :) so i cant see why they would give it to you if it was going to be harmful dont stress please they wouldnt prescribe it otherwise

mumzdaword
15-10-2007, 23:37
I had a really bad tooth at the end of my pregnancy and was proscribed panadeine forte and endone (which is stronger) and i was told to toss the prescription.... I was told to take Panadeine 15 which is like Panadeine forte but in the opporsite amounts of what its made of....there is more panadeine and less codeine....

mumzdaword
15-10-2007, 23:41
Its pretty obvious you are pregnant :) so i cant see why they would give it to you if it was going to be harmful dont stress please they wouldnt prescribe it otherwise

I was heavily pregnant when i was given endone at the hospital (endone is the biggest No No in pregnancy)

Kizmet dont stress... im sure you havent really taken enough to do any damage...

Try Medicines line 1300 888 763 and see what they say...

reAllytee
15-10-2007, 23:42
In cases like this hun they have to weigh the risks.

As in they wouldnt have given it to you unless they deemed it totally necessary which is understandable in regards to what you are going through.

The main issue they steer clear of the likes of Ibuprofen in the last trimester is that it can delay labour but again due to what you are going through they would have weighed all of this up.

But if you feel its wrong etc then by all means speak to someone else in regards to taking something other than this. Its whether it will work in regards to pain etc at this stage is another issue.

You arent bad :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

Kizmet
15-10-2007, 23:47
just did some googling and found most sites said the same thing which is pretty much summed up here


Use in Pregnancy
Category A
Paracetamol crosses the placenta, however problems in humans have not been documented.
Opioid analgesics cross the placenta. Regular use during pregnancy may cause physical
dependence in the foetus, leading to withdrawal symptoms in the neonate. Administration of
codeine during labour may cause respiratory depression in the newborn infant.

When i was in hospital I was in the antenatal ward and had a CTG done twice a day and had the doppler listen to bubs heartbeat every 4 hours so they definately knew i was pregnant :yes:

I am going to limit the use of it. What is a few weeks of excrutiating pain. Feel like crying:gloomy:

Thank you everyone for your help and support

Pixie
15-10-2007, 23:50
PF is fine they give it to you in Labour.
Neurofen I have taken it for back pain and I BF no affects.

Kizmet
15-10-2007, 23:51
PF is fine they give it to you in Labour.
Neurofen I have taken it for back pain and I BF no affects.

thanks Nat:hugs:

Beany
16-10-2007, 00:09
Codeine is contraindicated during the first trimester of pregnancy and is fine for the rest (pregnancy and breastfeeding). Paracetamol is fine for all the way through. Ibuprofen (nurofen) is generally to be avoided during pregnancy but is fine during breastfeeding.

Be wary of codeine, though. It's rather constipating.

Fear-mongering ahead: there are cases that show that excessive use of codeine while breastfeeding can be lethal to a baby. This is a one in a thousand chance but it does exist: the mother's system breaks it down too quickly and the baby essentially ingests morphine.

Kizmet
16-10-2007, 00:13
thanks beany :hugs:

Whilst unrelated (as far as i know) im hoping my condition pretty much goes away when im not pregnant any more but i think i will be able to deal with the pain better not being pregnant anyway iykwim

mumzdaword
16-10-2007, 00:16
PF is fine they give it to you in Labour.
Neurofen I have taken it for back pain and I BF no affects.

This is from the Panadeine Forte website....


Do not take this medicine if you have or have had any of the following medical conditions:
• Acute breathing difficulties such as bronchitis, unstable asthma or emphysema
Do not take Panadeine Forte during labour, especially if the baby is premature.
This medicine contains codeine, which may produce withdrawal effects in the newborn baby.
Do not use Panadeine Forte if you are breastfeeding.
The medicine passes into breast milk and may affect the baby.
Do not use Panadeine Forte after the expiry date (EXP) printed on the pack.
If you take it after the expiry date it may have no effect at all, or worse, have an entirely unexpected effect.
Do not use Panadeine Forte if the packaging is torn or shows signs of tampering.
Do not use this medicine to treat any other complaint unless your doctor says it is safe.
Panadeine Forte is not recommended for children under 7 years.





It states do not use during labour or while Breastfeeding

Lollie86
16-10-2007, 00:21
I actually just picked some up from the chemist yesterday and was told that it shouldnt be taken whilst bf.....but the pharmacist said that it passes through your system so you can take it after a feed so by the next feed it should be okay.

I thought that was a bit weird bc my doc told me to get some nurofen plus for some pain i have been having and checked his little book and it said its okay for bf.

Either way, I'm just taking it after a feed in case.

Beany
16-10-2007, 01:00
Panadeine Forte are covering their behinds from lawsuits. Any drug CAN adversely affect a pregnancy and breastfeeding but, as trials of the drugs have found, there is only a small risk of that.

If taken routinely during the last trimester of pregnancy, there is a risk of the baby developing a dependency to the drug and also having it's respiratory system depressed. Try not to take it all the time. Try to take just paracetamol sometimes.

EandN
16-10-2007, 08:45
I would not trust a pharmacist, or the doctor. I always ring the medicines line.
I and my girls have all been prescribed and given wrong info about drugs.
Everytime i get a new medication i call to ceck the dosages too. DD1 was told to take a certain amount of a drug when she was sick and it turns out it was double the amount she should for he hieght and weight

Susan Mac
18-10-2007, 09:36
I asked a friend to look it up for me a few weeks back, he is a first year pharmacist.
He said the pharmacy books said paracetemol is fine, and ibuprofen is okay but should be avoided while breastfeeding. Apparently there is not enough evidence yet to determine whether it is harmful or not, so at this stage best avoided.
He also said for small people he would avoid ibuprofen and stick with paracetemol.

Susan Mac
18-10-2007, 09:38
I but the pharmacist said that it passes through your system so you can take it after a feed so by the next feed it should be okay.



that's the other part of what he said.

bubs_and_us
08-01-2008, 20:55
i was on panadene forte from 22 weeks till the end of my pregnancy..... the emergency doctor, GP and pharmacist all assured me it was safe.

i also took diazepam for the same period.

not sure about breastfeeding though :confused:

Tam-I-Am
23-01-2008, 18:39
Both paracetamol and codeine are category A drugs in pregnancy and can be taken quite safely, if taken at the correct doses. The reason that panadeine/forte is contraindicated in pregnancy is that most women have problems with constipation anyway, and codeine, as previously mentioned, is quite constipating. This is, however, obviously not a life-threatening problem, therefore as long as you can put up with the discomfort - and take adequate compensatory steps (ie increase fibre and water intake...) its fine. As far as I'm aware, its also fine to take when breastfeeding, although should be taken with caution (as should any medication), and insofar as possible, leaving as much time as possible between taking the medication and the baby's next feed.

Ibuprofen increases the risks of bleeding during pregnancy and should be avoided in the first and last trimesters in particular, but shouldn't really be take at all if it can be avoided. If it IS taken during pregnancy, it should be on a doctor's advice and under their supervision. It is fine to take when breastfeeding, although, again, with caution and leaving as much time as possible between taking and feeding.

Both panadeine and ibuprofen are routinely given in maternity hospitals - panadeine/forte during labour, and ibuprofen AND panadeine/forte to assist in the recovery from labour, as the vagina is obviously prone to swelling and inflamation after vaginal birth, and both are able to assist with pain.

If you're ever in any doubt, you should always ask a pharmacist - they're specifically trained to know medications, their uses and contraindications, and if they don't know off the top of their heads (unusual with common over-the-counter meds), they have manuals and specialist medication hotlines that they can contact immediately to give you an answer on the spot. You don't even have to go INTO most chemists these days to talk to a pharmacist - most will be happy to chat to you over the phone.

HTH :)