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ziggie
05-10-2007, 19:31
CONGRATULATIONS

to all the new October 2007 mummies!

:party: :smiliedance: :party: :smiliedance: :party:



As requested by Jo - Gizmo - here is a sparkly new thread in a sparkly new section, just for us to chat in.... About all the joys of having an October bubba :D .

xxx

robinson
09-10-2007, 15:09
Yay.. I still cant believe that i'm now holding my baby in my arms...

Well Chloee is a big 1 week old today!!! :party:

she is going very well, have had 2 m/w visits and they said she's progressing very well.. she hasnt regained her birth weight but the m/w said it will take another week or so..

She is a very placid baby girl.. eats sleeps poos eats sleeps poos... loves her baths.. her big sister loves her to bits...

She's feeding every 3 hours and during the night 4 hours....

Can u tell i'm proud as punch!

zenifa
09-10-2007, 16:49
wow!! I can't believe its really October and I've had my baby!!
Thanks to Ziggie for the thread and Jo for suggesting it. It goes without saying that we still want all the Oct mummies that had their bubs in Sept to join us here!!

My experience so far is very similar to Robinson's!!

My Ximena is a little angel:angel: , sleeping well between feeds, becoming more alert each day, breastfeeding well (once we got our attachment/positioning corrected by LC on Sat, upon discharge home, plus a new bf pillow!!). My nappy service started yesterday which has been a great help, given how much she wees/poos!! She loves having her baths with dad and the smiles after a bf are beautiful :kiss: (yes I'm aware its probably wind!!).

She lost 130g at day 4 and regained 110g by day 6 so is only 20 g under her birthweight. I'm going to take her to the chemist for weigh ins/baby checks, starting next week when she is 2 weeks old.

She is having 3hrly feeds during the day and 4hrly at night and doesn't need resettling..........she is so calm, happy and content, yes I do feel very lucky:smiliedance: !! I am a very happy and proud mummy!!

It certainly helps as my DD1 can be a demanding toddler at times but is a great big sister, giving her lots of kisses and cuddles and being a help to mummy:yelclap: !!

So far all is going well, and DH is being a fantastic help, he is home this week and next and I'm dreading his return to work......how will I cope with the 2 on my own? I will have MIL and my mum coming to help for the 3 weeks after DH is back at work, as still recovering from my c/s, they will help out a bit!!

My recovery is going well, have a few afterbirth pains and the area around my wound is a bit sore, but my tummy has gone down heaps (DH thinks it looks like I'm 16 weeks preg, I'm taking that as a compliment!!). The bleeding has stopped and I feel pretty good.

We went out today as a family of 4 to the local shops, to run errands like Medicare/FAO, claim $$ from health fund and do a bit of shopping. First time using the tandem stroller and it all went surprisingly well, DH and I made a great team and both DD1 and DD2 did really well. Ximena slept through the whole experience and DD1 was well behaved. Not sure though when I will attempt such outings on my own.

Okay enough from me, better go and feed DD1 and get her ready for bed before DD2 gets up for her next feed and a bath!!

zenifa
10-10-2007, 07:53
Cassie - thanks for your post, it gave me a boost.
When DH goes back to work, I will still have 3 weeks of recovery to go ie no heavy lifting, so I can do dishes/cook and look after the girls, but can't do vacuuming or carry out the washing (I can hang it out however) or do grocery shopping, so that is when I will take up mum and MIL's offers of help, plus technically I shouldn't drive either -I am going to check this with my OB and car insurer, as I would still like to get out locally, otherwise its the tandem pram and going on foot.
It just seems daunting at the moment, but I'm sure I'll rise to the challenge and I'm trying to get into some kind of routine before DH goes to work, so I will feel more in control of things.

zenifa
10-10-2007, 15:13
We live in the southern suburbs of Brisbane and Dh works in the city, he's a public servant so out the door at 7.30am and home by 5.30pm every night which is great, so he can help in the mornings and evenings with the kids. Very family friendly!! He has to travel to Townsville for a week every so often (3-4 times/year) and is due to go again towards the end of Nov, which I am NOT looking forward to.

We have lots of produce from our market trip a couple of weeks ago, so I made a zucchini soup for lunch and then I made a dessert for tonight - apple and pear crumble (we have a box of pears/apples to use up too!!). DH is on dinner duty tonight :chef:!!

DH bought me a slow cooker yesterday, as a family present to celebrate Ximena's birth and also an attempt to help me to get dinner done on my own when he's back at work - we've been talking about getting one for a while.

DH gave me a lovely present following Ximena's birth, a pair of gold earrings - oval onyx disk with a diamond in the middle, european style - I was very chuffed :kiss:!!

zenifa
10-10-2007, 16:08
I didn't get any present last time around and I think the idea popped into DH's head when we visited his grandparents in SA in March, as his nanna showed us the jewellery she had been given when each of her 2 children had been born!! It was quite a surprise I can tell you!!

Once my bf is more established (in the next few weeks), I will be getting DH to give EBM feeds on Fri and Sat nights, as he did with my other DD, so I can have more than 3-4hr sleep at a time!!

zenifa
10-10-2007, 16:37
I'm very lucky to have a calm placid baby that is easily settled (don't want to speak too soon, as bubs can change just when you think you've got them figured out), but its pretty normal for babies to be unsettled, whether day or night, so it could be wind, reflux or just needing cuddles??
Oh Cassie, sending you some :sleeping: fairies for both you and Afrika. DH is pretty helpful, but certainly needs some coaxing on my part.
When does your DH come back? You are amazing to be able to cope with the 2 on your own, I don't think I could do it.

robinson
12-10-2007, 21:29
You girls can talk!!
Well Cassie you were right with the jinxing myself.. Chloee now has no idea whats day and night and lights to press my buttons with her grizzly so I'll pick her up and she goes straight of to sleep as soon as i pick her up...

But were still doing well.. 3hours between most feeds I try to really top her up before I go to bed to see how long she'll go for.. she actually went for 4hours last night.. but not getting much sleep here either..

Recovering pretty well, still have some pains managed to get the b/f pretty down pact and I actually bought a b/f pillow today which seems to work well..

DD1 is still obsessed with DD2 and I barely get a look in with her these days its all "bubba bubba bubba"

Poor Chloee has sticky eye if its not better tomorrow I'm going to take her to the GP, its been 4 days now and the saline doesnt seem to be working too well.. it all just keep coming out.. i'm changing her bedding daily, cleaning it correctly, wipeing her little hands and its still there..

Thats about it from me!

Pebbles
14-10-2007, 12:21
Hi Girls

Just thought I would pop in and say Hi :wave: . Dont have much time lately but I am hoping to get some more time when I get into a better routine and when DH goes back to work and when DS1 goes back to school! Its been a madhouse here for the last couple weeks.

An update with me is that Tyson had his clinic appt on Wed and he has put on more weight than he was expected to for the week so we were very happy about that. I was worried coz for awhile he was only feeding for 10 mins at a time and then he would pull off and wouldnt go back on. When I spoke to the Nurse about it she said he must be getting enough milk coz he wasnt screaming with hunger in between feeds. But I was still worried so happy to hear about he weight gain. And the last few days he started feeding for longer, now he sometimes feeds for up to an hour so no need to worry anymore.

He is also starting to get into a routine which is good. He feeds every 3ish hours which works well for me and the last couple of nights he has gone 4 hours in between his latest night feed so I have been pretty happy about that!

Hope everybody else and their bubs are doing well!

zenifa
15-10-2007, 15:50
Hi everyone!! Hope all your Oct bubs are doing well (yes even those born in Sept!!).
Well took Miss X to her 1st check up with the CHN at the local chemist, there was a massive queue, with 5 mums and bubs ahead of us, so after nearly an hour waiting we got seen (there were at least 6-8 people after us!! talk about a baby boom!!).

Miss X is doing very well, in fact she's thriving:smiliedance: , she's put on 500 g :eek: since we left hospital, 9 days ago, grown 2.5cm since birth in length and her head has grown 1cm:yelclap: . So we've been told to just get her weighed/checked fortnightly as she's doing so well and is my 2nd bub.
Our only problem is that she's got oral thrush:thumbsdown: , so now both her and my boobs are being treated.
We are still bf, on demand, around 6 times/day, approx 4hrly and yes I'm up twice per night, which isn't too bad. She's a great feeder and sleeper and a pure delight!!

I've started doing a bit of reading during my night feeds, as I don't want to wake DH or DD with tv/radio.
DD1 is being great with DD2, lots of hugs, kisses and she's been very gentle and caring towards her. Enjoying having DH home this week, luckily my car insurer and OB said I can drive as of next week - as I'm keen to have DD1 back at playgroup (which she has missed due to school holidays and bubs arrival).

Pebbles
16-10-2007, 21:45
Hi Girls

Well Tyson is going well still. We had a bad night last night with not much sleep but thats ok, I am hoping tonight will be better.

Jamie went back to school today, he was so excited to tell his friends about his new baby brother! It was very cute.

Had to buy some wind drops for Tyson today as he has had some trouble with wind since he was born. I am waiting to see if they have made much difference, he has had a couple doses today already but the real test will be later tonight when his wind seems to be at its worst. I really hope it works coz it breaks my heart when I see him in pain and he looks up at me with his gorgeous little eyes as if to say "Do something mummy" and I am trying so hard to get his wind up but sometimes I just cant get it up. Its quite distressing for both me and him coz if he doesnt bring up his wind I feel like I failed him.

Anyways I will pop in tomorrow and let you guys know how I went through the night.

I hope the rest of you Oct girls (and some Sept girls like me! :D ) are doing well with your bub's!

3BoysBlue
17-10-2007, 10:18
I thought i pop in and say Hi:wave: even though i was in August hope that ok:eek:
I glad every one bubs are doing well

Robinson DS2 has had sticky eyes too im find some days are worse than others and BM works well

mrsgreen663 im having trouble with reflux as well

Zenifa great to here an bout he weight gain and having such a happy and settled bub lucky you

sorry if i missed anyone:o

Now an update on Deegan hes doing well gaining weight he put on 290gms in a week:eek: hes Now 3490gms
were having some troubles with feeding as he seem to be snacking all day and night about every 2 hours and occasionally lasting 3-4 hours but I think hes has a bit of reflux as hes:barf: are getting for frequent and bigger and of a night i can hear it coming up and down hes throat :gloomy:
we just had hes eyes check for Retinopathy of prematurity (ROP)and got the all clear were off to hes paed next week and the speechie as well
he as a hernia in he belly button their keeping an eye on as hes a little tongue tie is could be why hes only snacking as he has to work overtime sucking and getting tired and falling sleep

well must go its feed time sorry for the long post

robinson
17-10-2007, 12:54
mrsgreen663.. Sticky eye cleared up but low and behold its back again this morning.... grrrr

Sucks about hte reflux... DD1 had it and it was horrible.. I hear you about the projectile vomiting and the washing... you poor thing...

mummy21soon2b2
I've been using saline.. which seems to work ok but now that its back i might give the breast milk a try..

Chloee is doing well, gaining weight light a trouper.. she is above her birth weight now and yesterday and today after a b/feeding daystay at the hospital she is going 3.5 to 4 hours between feeds and I think she may have silent relux but will wait til Friday and watch her closely before I speak to the MCHN about it... DD1 had reflux and had to have an ultra sound on her ostephegus but it was all ok other than the reflux... hope whatever is happening with DD2 that it isnt reflux..

Anyway must go eat lunch now...

sam's mum
17-10-2007, 13:19
just found this thread. Hi all.

I have yet another October baby that came in September.

Zenifa, my OB told me that I could drive when I could comfortably slam on the brakes. My insurance company said that it was up to my OB. :fingerscrossed: you are able to be as mobile as you want to be.

Robinson - I hope the sticky eye is better. If not Breast Milk is what the chemist told us to use for DS and it cleaned it up really quickly.

Pebbles - none of the wind stuff ever worked for us. DS had silent reflux where he would get pain, but not actually throw up. The paed put him on mylanta and it was a magic fix. Here's hoping that it all works out for you.

Mummy21soon2b2 - DS had a hernia and it fixed itself. DD2 has a small one as well and we are hoping that it will fix itself too.

Isabelle is doing very well. In her first week out of hospital she put on 290g and was 2600g (5lb 12oz). She still won't feed on the breast, but is getting about 100ml of EBM at each feed. She feeds well and settles well, the only problem being she won't feed straight from me! If I could go back in time and stop them giving her the dummy and bottle in special care. grrr. who reads forms when you are under the influence of morphine!

My DH is a public servant too. he gets two weeks paid leave under our agreement. He was back at work for one day and his boss told him to take another two weeks off as well. so he has. thank goodness, I am still having pain and there is a lot that I can't do. My caesar on the outside goes across, but on the inside goes across AND up. the across is fine, but the up hurts :crying: .

The joys of the loving and helpful toddler. I don't know if it is harder to protect DD2 from DS wanting to share his water, biscuits, kisses and hugs or from the sly kicks and pokes. :rolleyes:

erinp
19-10-2007, 11:37
Hi girls :wave:

Just wanted to pop in and say hi - have been checking on this thread but it seems like most of us are still using the Due in Oct thread to chat...wonder when everyone will migrate across? :)

zenifa
19-10-2007, 14:43
Great to see there is more action in this thread :wave:.
Its great to hear how all the bubs are doing.

Cassie - :hugs: to you, hope things improve with the reflux and you find the bonding improves with Afrika.

Tammy - hope Tyson's wind settles down, its so hard when you try everything and still feel so helpless.

mummy21soon2b2 - glad to hear that Deegan is doing so well, putting on weight, sorry to hear about the reflux, good luck with those appts next week.

Robinson - hope the sticky eye goes away, my DD1 had it, we used the saline too and it took a while to finally go away for good. :fingerscrossed: your little one doesn't have silent reflux and hope her feeding continues to go well after the bf daystay.

Samsmum - great to hear from you, sounds like Isabelle is doing well with the EBM, good luck getting her to take the breast and hope your c/s wound heals up and isn't so painful soon!! Yes, I have a helpful toddler too :rolleyes:

We're doing okay, the real test will be next week when DH returns to work, I'm dreading it, as I'm finding it challenging with a toddler and a newborn. Ximena is an angel, feeds well (4-5hrly at night and 3-4hrly during the day), sleeps well and is happy content. DD1 is pretty good but has her toddler moments and is still very demanding of my time.
Can drive now according to insurer and OB, so that is good and still have this on/off again bleeding. Still medicating my boobs and DD2 for this oral thrush, hopefully it will be gone in the next few days.

Pebbles
19-10-2007, 20:38
Hi Girls

Cassie – Yep I have thought of those things, I got a special wedge thing for the Bassinet and for his cot so they are both on inclines and the clinic nurse suggested we put him to sleep in his little bouncer that vibrates coz it helps get his wind up too. The wind stuff we used must have done something coz last night I finally got some sleep! Tyson went 4 hours between his 2 night time feeds, that’s the first time he has gone 4 hours between feeds more than once in a day and it was in a row and at night so I was stoked! My little man is still too small for 0000’s. He fits nice in his wondersuits now but all his cute clothes are way too big for him! :rolleyes:

Mummy21 – Course its ok! Some of us Sept girls have jumped into this Oct section too! :D Glad to hear Deegan is doing so well!

Robinson – That’s great that Chloee is putting on weight, it feels good when that happens eh! :yes:

Jane – I have never heard of silent reflux before. Jamie had reflux which was awful. I wander if Tyson has silent reflux…. I didn’t think he had reflux coz although he brings up a little bit of milk after every feed its rarely enough that I would worry. Lucky the wind stuff I bought seems to have helped coz he is definitely a lot better today. Bummer that Isabelle wont feed straight from you. I gave Tyson a dummy straight away and also got him used to a bottle (for those times when I express and DH can feed him!) straight away but he still have no problems feeding from me, I must be lucky. :D

Zenifa – Yes I hate feeling helpless. DH keeps telling me I am doing a great job and I am a great mum etc but I still feel useless when Tyson is in pain and all I can do is rub his back and hope that the pain goes away. Oh you are like me, my DH is going back to work on Wednesday and I am really dreading it. :( I am trying not to think about it but the days seem to be going so fast and I am getting scared! I think the worst part for me will be trying to juggle feeding and taking care of a newborn while still taking Jamie to and from school and being a mum of a school age child.

Well we had Tyson’s clinic appt yesterday. He weighs 7 pound 1 now so he has put on exactly one pound since he was born. They said his weight gain is good so I must be doing something right! We had a good night last night with Tyson feeding at 10:30pm and then not again until 2:30am and then not again until 6:30am. Those times were very bearable and for once I didn’t wake DH up to help me so he got to sleep the whole night threw and woke up this morning in a much better mood than the last couple of mornings! It really makes the day better when ya start the day off in a good mood! So then DH took Tyson out to the lounge while I got a couple more hours sleep and when he took Jamie to school for me I got up and fed Tyson again and then we went shopping, went to the bank and started a bank a/c for Tyson and then I bought a baby sling. Then I went to a girlfriends house for a cuppa afterwards which was really nice. So we have had a good day today.

Hope everybody else has had great days today.

ziggie
20-10-2007, 10:57
Hi girls!

Time for me to join this thread :smiliedance: .

Lincoln and I are both doing well, feeding him is a dream, which is fantastic... But I have a bubba who doesn't EVER want to be put down. So as soon as I got home, I happily wrapped myself in the hug a bub... so at least I have 2 free hands now. Plus, he's been sleeping in bed with me, because he won't settle in his bassinet. He must love his mummy too much! I had this with Mitch, too, so I'm used to it.

Glad to hear everyone's coping well enough... I'll be back later to post more xx

erinp
20-10-2007, 17:42
Hi Sarah :wave: great to see you back on. Sounds like you have a mummy's boy there, must be nice, but at the same time you'll really appreciate the breaks you do get!!

Tammy sounds like you and Tyson are doing better than last time you wrote (can't remember if it was this thread or the other, anyway.....). Glad DH got some more sleep, that probably helped you a lot today too!

Ooh robinson I love your new avatar - your girls are beautiful and look so happy together!!

Wow I'm not surprised you girls with more than one baby are worried about your DH's going back to work, I'm sure it will be hard work but you are strong so I know you'll be fine! (I'm sure you know it too :thumbsup:)

Had a really nice 'family day' today; it's nice having DH around so he can spend time with Hannah too. We had to buy a pressie for my step-dad's 50th, then an mp3 player for DH. Dressed Hannah in a pretty pink dress and got lots of comments in the shops which I love :D Then had lunch at mum's with another neighbour coming to meet Hannah, then BIL came over and so did a friend, DH is just dropping BIL home and will be back soon for dinner and a quiet night in with "his girls" - it is so lovely to be a family. We were both just so ready and it feels right; it is so amazing - I think I'm still floating on cloud 9 and keep wondering when reality will hit and then I realise this is it! My daughter is such a wonderful little baby and I can't imagine not having her, so weird how your life just c hanges so much, we are such a happy little family. Valentine (hee hee needs 3 of us not just 2!)Aww sorry for the soppy ramble, but knew you guys would understand :o

Shakey
22-10-2007, 18:38
evening everyone :wave:

thought I better post in here finally, good to hear eveyone is doing well

mummy21soon2b2 i'm a september mummy but i'm sticking to the Oct section, cause that is when she was due,

Tammy good to hear about Tyson's weight gain :thumbsup: sounds like he's doing really well


well Alexis got weighed on thurs, and she had gained just under 100grams, 95 to be precise, so thats good, and that was with only a couple of bottles 9was giving her one a day) we have a appt with the CHN on wed so will be interesting to see how much she's put on by then, i've been exclusivly breastfeeding here since friday, she's doing very well at the mo, feeding every 3 hrs during the day and 4hrly at night, so thats good

hope eveyone is going good, will come back later, the little one doesn't sound very happy in her bassinette

ziggie
23-10-2007, 06:40
Hi Ladies :wave:

Bit of a vent here... Lincoln's been so extremely unsettled overnight for the past 2 nights, it's been awful :crying: . He's been sleeping with us, and this has been working... but not now. I'll feed him, then he'll burp, and we'll lie down and he seems happy enough, but then he'll start crying and sort of grunting. If I give him a dummy, he'll shake his head from side to side, with his mouth open, as if rooting for food, until he eventually takes it. I've thought maybe he's still hungry and offer him more boob, but he attaches, then just does those little sucks, not actually getting anything. I've tried keeping him upright for longer, in case of wind... And last night I gave him some Brauers colic relief, which is a homeopathic treatment... but still no good.

Any advice?

Pebbles
24-10-2007, 10:30
Hi Ladies

Well today is my first day home with my little man without my hubby :( he went back to work today. It was so sad when he left, I had a cry. I cant believe it has been 4 weeks already!

Anyways I just gotta get through today and each day will be easier. I shouldnt worry, its not like I am doing this for the first time but its been so long since Jamie was a bub! And I have gotten used to having somebody around to help all day every day! And of course I will miss DH.

Anyways I hope you are all having great days!

zenifa
24-10-2007, 15:06
Sarah, sorry I've got no real advice for you. Have you tried Infacol or Infant's friend for Lincoln's wind? With my DDs, I just usually massage their tummies, move their legs in a cycling type motion (moving feet up towards their tummy) and try baby massage to remove wind so I haven't needed any remedies, good luck, its no good when bubs is unhappy.

Tammy - hope you are doing okay today with DH back at work.
For me its day 3 since DH went back to work and I seem to be coping better each day (although I have had a bit of help from MIL and my parents with chores due to my c/s).

Took DD2 to the CHN to get her weighed and she has put on 600g in the last 9 days :eek: , grown 2.5cm and her head is nearly 2cm bigger, so she's thriving and doing well. Still feeds 3-4 hrly and is doing well, can't really complain, esp after reading Nikki's news about Jack today :crying: .

Hope you are all doing well!!

Cenni
25-10-2007, 17:45
Hi Everyone :wave:
This is my first post in this thread and haven’t posted for ages.

The last post I made in the Oct chat was early Sun morning before taking Penny to the hospital to have a blood test for jaundice. Well sadly she had to return to hospital Sunday and Monday night for light therapy as that blood test showed she was just over
the line for jaundice. :(

I got to stay with her in my own room while she was in a special care room. I struggled so much being away from her.

I gave her three hourly feeds of breast and express breast milk and could only hold her for 30mins while she was out of the light bed. It was really hard. :crying:

Most of her time in hospital I found myself crying and blaming myself for her jaundice. The Dr who checked her before we left said she was not showing any signs and once home I was looking after her, but my emotions were telling me that I didnt feed her enough, and maybe I could have done something to prevent it. Gee as a Mum you beat yourself up so much when they are unwell. Chris has been so wonderful telling me jaundice is common and that I am a fantastic Mum, and Penny knows that.

Happily Penny has been home since Tuesday afternoon and is feeding very well, every three hourly and enjoying lots of cuddles and playtime with Chris and I. I love her so much and love being a Mum.

Cenni
26-10-2007, 03:31
Jillian don't beat yourself up about it, Chris is right... it is VERY common for babies to have jaundice, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it.
Afrika didn't show any signs of jaundice until her 5th day in the special care nursery and then spent a week under the lights, and was still quite jaundice when we bought her home (although I couldn't see the difference to be honest, because she has olive skin as well). Glad to hear Penny is home now and you are all doing well :thumbsup:

Cassie :hugs: :hugs: Although Chris has been trying to convince me, it means so much coming from another Mum to hear that I couldnt have done anything to prevent this. Thanks so much.
Penny had a lovely day/night today, she is getting into a routine of feeds, sleeps and playtimes which is good.

saremc
26-10-2007, 07:45
Hi girls

Had to pop in and say CONGRATULATIONS again and im hopeing to join you gus in here asap lol love the piccies your bubs are just so beautiful!

Wish me luck and im hopeing to pop very soon!

ziggie
26-10-2007, 07:53
Hi ladies :wave:

Cenni, as Cassie said, Jaundice is so common. No need to beat yourself up over it, ok? It must've been just awful for you to have to go back to hospital though :hugs:.

Tammy, I dread Damien going back to work next week too. I've got my mum coming to help me though, which will be good. You're lucky you're DH got 4 weeks off! Wow!

Zenifer, great to hear DD's putting on heaps of weight and thriving. I know what you mean about little Jack - It really has put all my so called problems in to perspective a bit. I'm definately taking the advice of 'never take them for granted'.

Hi to everyone else, hope all is well!

I had the mchn come out on Wednesday to weigh Linc and go through the whole "contraception, sids, are you coping' thing. He put on 220g in 4 days, so I'm pleased with that. He's still a shocker at night... Last night it went from about 8pm till 2am, until he finally fell asleep on my tummy. I just have to keep thinking that it won't last, and that it's better for him to be like that at night when Mitch's in bed. Can you imagine how hard it would be during the day? Especially as Mitch is extremely clingy at the moment. I'm a bit of a zombie though... seriously need some zzz's!

Anyway, enough from me.

xx

Shakey
26-10-2007, 08:15
morning eveyone

good to hear everyones bubs are doing well,

Sarah, I hope Lincoln starts settling for you at night soon, must be so hard,

Cenni, like Cassie said there is nothing that you could've done to prevent the jaundice, most babies will get it, some right after birth some a few days later, Alexis had to be put under the lights at about 5 days old, and even now she still looks like she's got a tan,

Tammy, hope your doing well without your DH, i'm kinda jellous of eveyone that had their hubbies home after the birth, my DH hasn't gotten any time off, so from day one I havn't had him around, even after I brought Alexis home

well nothing much going on here, Alexis is still doing 4hrly stints at night, accidentally did 5hrs at one stage last night (i'm not allowed to let her go over 4hrs at night and 3hrs during the day) so she's doing pretty well, i've finally got her to feed of my left breast, so :fingerscrossed: and touch wood she continues to do so so I don't have to express anymore :fingerscrossed: unless I wanna stock up on EBM,

I better get cracking, go to wash my sheets today, cause Alexis pee'd though her nappy this morn when I fed her and it went onto the sheets and mattress protector (thank god I have one of them on the bed).

zenifa
26-10-2007, 14:28
Hi Everyone :wave:
This is my first post in this thread and haven’t posted for ages.

The last post I made in the Oct chat was early Sun morning before taking Penny to the hospital to have a blood test for jaundice. Well sadly she had to return to hospital Sunday and Monday night for light therapy as that blood test showed she was just over
the line for jaundice. :(

I got to stay with her in my own room while she was in a special care room. I struggled so much being away from her.

I gave her three hourly feeds of breast and express breast milk and could only hold her for 30mins while she was out of the light bed. It was really hard. :crying:

Most of her time in hospital I found myself crying and blaming myself for her jaundice. The Dr who checked her before we left said she was not showing any signs and once home I was looking after her, but my emotions were telling me that I didnt feed her enough, and maybe I could have done something to prevent it. Gee as a Mum you beat yourself up so much when they are unwell. Chris has been so wonderful telling me jaundice is common and that I am a fantastic Mum, and Penny knows that.

Happily Penny has been home since Tuesday afternoon and is feeding very well, every three hourly and enjoying lots of cuddles and playtime with Chris and I. I love her so much and love being a Mum.

Oh Jillian :hugs: to you, as Chris and the other mums have said, there is nothing that you did to cause Penny's jaundice, it is very common, and easily treated (with phototherapy) and once it clears up she will be fine. Welcome to motherhood!! It seems like you are already experiencing a lot of common feelings that most new (& old) mums feel, don't be too hard on yourself. I am sure you are the best mummy Penny could have!!

Sarah - hope that Lincoln is sleeping better for you, I did read your other thread about his feeding/sleeping and yes it appears its the old case of witching/arsenic hour. Yay!! for successfully breastfeeding, hang in there, sending you some :sleeping: fairies. Good luck with it and I'm sure you'll be fine when DH goes back to work.
Although I only usually get up once or twice per night, I try to nap during the day when DD1 and DD2 are sleeping (if they're both asleep at the same time, then I go for a nap, all chores can wait!!).
Ximena also has periods (either in the afternoon or early evening) where she is cluster feeding (every 1-2hrs), and is clingy, needing to be held or in a sling and thankfully, once it settles, she does sleep during the night.

Jo - you are an amazing woman and mother - its a shame your DH hasn't had time off to help you, but you seemed to have coped really well with DS and Alexis, sounds like all is going well with her (despite the extra washing you have to do today).

Things are going okay with me, I've survived my 1st week at home without DH during the day - its had its challenges, but I coped (plus I had a little help from my mum and MIL). I am trying to be positive and enjoy my girls as much as I can, although it can be hard at times, when they are both crying/hungry and wanting something from me at the same time.
Had a funny moment this morning when DH was just on his way out the door to work, DD1 woke up and had done a major poo and DD2 also woke up and had done an explosive poo - at the same time, so it was hard to know where to start, luckily DH helped me, as he could see I was still half asleep and was totally overwhelmed!!
Better go now, enjoy your babies ladies!!

Cenni
26-10-2007, 17:54
zenifa, Ziggie and Gizmo-Gee, Thanks as the days go on and I watch her growing , feeding well, being happy, I get happier and have started realising there wasnt anything I could have done to prevent her jaundice.

zenifa-Glad to hear you are doing well home with yoru girls as your DH has returned to work, Chris is returning to work next Wednesday Im glad its the middle of the week as the weekend will come quicker. He so doesnt want to return.

SJE
27-10-2007, 09:33
So glad to be in this thread I could cry.

Milk came in painfully yesterday.

Annelise has become angry with the breast because there has been nothing in it for 4 days. So atm I am expressing, giving her that in a bottle and then topping her up with formula.
Every last drop is being pumped/manually squeezed from each breast.

Over the next few weeks I'll be seeking help from whoever I can to try to get her to attach.
Its annoying because she was attaching so well for the first few days.:gloomy:

Zenifa - Its great you have survived your first week alone. It must of been scary just thinking about it.
Sounds like there is a major poofest going on at your house. Did you need the air freshener spray after all that?
Bubs is growing so well - Well done to her mummy!

Gizmo - I'm not sure of your story but just wondering how you got bubby to go back to the breast? That must have made you very happy that she did that:yelclap:
Also I ended up having two mattress protectors; it seemed like one was always in the wash from puke/wee.:rolleyes:

Shakey
27-10-2007, 11:09
Gizmo - I'm not sure of your story but just wondering how you got bubby to go back to the breast? That must have made you very happy that she did that:yelclap:


One word, persiverance (sp), for the first 4/5 days Alexis was on a drip so she was not having any milk at all, at about day 5 she started being tube fed slowly, only a few mls at a time, then once she came out of the humidicrib at about day 9/10 I finally got to try and breast fed her, at first she didn't really latch, but then slowly got better and better with it, would latch both breasts, then by about day 15 she decided she wouldn't latch on my left one at all (very frustraiting) so I would have to express that side and feed her and express off the right one too (very time consuming) to get her to latch onto me I would keep trying and trying again and again, even now sometimes it can take her between 15mins and half a hour to get latched on, and at the beginning she would get too worked up to latch on so I had to give her a bottle, but that only lasted a few days, last wed I had had enough of expressing from my left side so I decided that I would try her again on that side, she would open her mouth and get on but just couldn't get any sucktion going for some reason, over the past few days she's just gotten better and better at it, I always give her 30mins to try and latch on, if she gets too worked up then I would put her on the other side, I think the trick is to make sure your boobs aren't too full (its harder for them to latch on) so maybe express before you go to feed her, express about half ya amount and then try and latch her on, and try and feed her before she's starving, a over hungry baby is harder to latch on as well,

just keep trying and trying again and again, she'll get there, oh and you'll be surprised at the amount that is in the breast so early on, what your expressing is less than the amount that is actually in there cause a pump will never get the whole amount out, not like a baby, so do put her on as much as possible, even if she needs feeding every hour to 2hrs, that is normal with a newborn, to help establish your supply

Shakey
27-10-2007, 11:35
yip she sure can be, she's 5wks old tomorrow, although she has improved heaps in the last couple of weeks, we're still having the odd probs, but we just push though them, Alexis likes sleeping heaps, so keeping her awake to have here full feed is a mission, she'll even fall asleep when i've taken all her clothes off lol, most of her feeds take up to a hour, although some days she's good to me and has a good feed of about 30mins

Shakey
27-10-2007, 12:18
yip frustraiting as, the nurses in the SCN keep telling me that once she passes 40wks she'll be fine, I went in to see them today and they are now saying maybe another 2wks before she should sort herself out lol

TeamAwesome
27-10-2007, 22:17
Hi Ladies,
just quickly popping in here now I'm on the other side! Angelina is going really well, feeding heaps and heaps. Pain wise down there I've had the best recovery of the three births but boy oh boy are the afterbirth pains bad! The initial few were like being in labour again! My tummy has gone down so much though, so at least I can see they are achieving what they're supposed to.

Aden is home until next Sunday, then he leaves to go away for work at Monto which is about 400kms from here so that will be interesting... I am going to enjoy the next week of having him home as much as possible and take full advantage and rest up lots!

well I better go get some sleep while Angelina is sleeping as I'm sure she'll be awake in a couple of hours if not sooner.

Natalie

SJE
28-10-2007, 08:57
One word, persiverance (sp), for the first 4/5 days Alexis was on a drip so she was not having any milk at all, at about day 5 she started being tube fed slowly, only a few mls at a time, then once she came out of the humidicrib at about day 9/10 I finally got to try and breast fed her, at first she didn't really latch, but then slowly got better and better with it, would latch both breasts, then by about day 15 she decided she wouldn't latch on my left one at all (very frustraiting) so I would have to express that side and feed her and express off the right one too (very time consuming) to get her to latch onto me I would keep trying and trying again and again, even now sometimes it can take her between 15mins and half a hour to get latched on, and at the beginning she would get too worked up to latch on so I had to give her a bottle, but that only lasted a few days, last wed I had had enough of expressing from my left side so I decided that I would try her again on that side, she would open her mouth and get on but just couldn't get any sucktion going for some reason, over the past few days she's just gotten better and better at it, I always give her 30mins to try and latch on, if she gets too worked up then I would put her on the other side, I think the trick is to make sure your boobs aren't too full (its harder for them to latch on) so maybe express before you go to feed her, express about half ya amount and then try and latch her on, and try and feed her before she's starving, a over hungry baby is harder to latch on as well,

just keep trying and trying again and again, she'll get there, oh and you'll be surprised at the amount that is in the breast so early on, what your expressing is less than the amount that is actually in there cause a pump will never get the whole amount out, not like a baby, so do put her on as much as possible, even if she needs feeding every hour to 2hrs, that is normal with a newborn, to help establish your supply

Post found and noted.
Some very good tips here - will definately be trying them out.

Thankyou so much.
It may be the hormones but I really would like to breastfeed this bubba. Just thinking about this issue makes my eyes tear up. :crying:


Natalie - Those afterpains are nasty arent they. Drugs or hot packs can help apparently. Here's hoping they ease up for you very soon.:fingerscrossed:

Shakey
28-10-2007, 09:00
cool ya found it

just keep trying ay, and definatly get help from a LC, so ring the ABA, where there is a will there is a way, you will beable to do it,

try not to stress about it though, these babies can feel our emotions and if you stress it can stress her out, take one day at a time, and don't worry if she finally manages to latch at one feed and wont the next, its all totally normal, she will do it,

Natalie - I hear ya with the after pains, they just get worse and worse after each baby lol, I never got them with my first, but with the rest I did, they are just awfull

zenifa
28-10-2007, 09:19
SeeJayElle :hugs: sounds like you have already got some good advice - such as getting in touch with an LC and ABA, for suggestions and especially support.
I agree that at each feed you need to offer the breast, take some deep breaths to relax and persevere with trying to attach bubs onto breast. If this doesn't work, then offer the bottle (of EBM and express). I agree that you need to be offering the breast more often to get your supply up and not trying to attach if your breasts are too engorged, as they find it hard and the milk flow can be too fast for them, so they break suction/ attachment. As your supply increases, then you can slowly decrease the formula. Trying to not get too stressed (and good positioning whilst feeding, ensuring your shoulders are down and relaxed) will definately help your attachment and milk supply. Yes, it is very painful when you milk comes in and for while til supply is established and settles down. Given that she attached so well at the start, that gives me hope that with your determination to bf, and some help/support that you will be successful!! Good luck!!

Nat - welcome!! great to see you in this thread!! Yes enjoy the time when DH is home, as you will have your hands full when he leaves for Monto. Looking forward to reading your birth story and seeing piccies when you have the time. Sounds like all is going well with Angelina's feeding and sleeping - yes those afterbirth pains are terrible, I agree some paracetamol and heatpack did the trick for me.

Hope all the other Oct mummies and bubs are doing well.
Things are going great with us, Ximena is feeding and sleeping well (normally for a 4 week old anyway), she slept for 6hrs last night and I had to wake her, as my boobs felt like they would explode!!
Have to go, will try to post later when I have less demands on me from DH, and the two girls (yeah right, who am I kidding??)

sam's mum
28-10-2007, 09:49
Hi all,

I have to add myself to the 'having trouble breastfeeding' list. Isabelle just hasn't got the hang of it yet, so we are still expressing and bottle feeding each feed. I am trying not to stress about it and I hope that she will get the hang of it eventually, it is so much easier than all this expressing and sterilising. She has successfully fed (not been hungry for a decent time after) twice, but I am yet to repeat this success.

she is sleeping fairly well and we are working around a Tizzie Hall routine, not adhering exactly, but loosely based timeframes.

I am doing pretty well so far coping with sleep and a toddler, but DH is still home, so we will see how it goes when he is back at work on Wednesday.

She's awake! right on time for the next feed too! :thumbsup:

michblb
28-10-2007, 16:37
Sam's mum, great that you are getting into a loose routine, especially with a toddler

Nat, great your tummy went down and good idea to rest as much as you can before you are coping with 3 on your own.

SeeJayElle hope that the advice is working for you. Charlotte was the same, she wouldn't attach to my left breast at the hospy. The mw suggested trying different feeding positions and finally I found one she would feed in (her body across my body/rather than underarm). I agree with Zenifa, if you relax as much as you can, bubs might be more open to latching on.

Cass, Charlie went off her milk last week, took her to the GP yesterday but she is fine, just didn't want as much milk as normal. Maybe they are like us some days they are hungry, others not?? Hope that Afrika starts feeding better soon.

Jo, :fingerscrossed: that Alexis also feeds well and good on your for continuing with the b/f, wish I was that committed.

Zenifa, excellent that things are going so well and especially as DH is back at work. 6 hours is great, Charlotte hasn't done that long yet. Hopefully soon.

Well last night we went to a Bar for DH's b'day drinks so Nanna looked after Charlie. I was quite nervous leaving her for so long (our grand plans of staying out until the 2am feed) and had a few tears in the car. But by 11.30 we were buggered and went home. Nanna was great she got up and fed her at 1am so we could still sleep.

Took her to the GP yesterday and she is fine, all her symptoms had disappeared anyway and she is taking her milk again. The dr weighed her and she is now 4.5kg (so she's put on 1kg in 2 and a half weeks) which is good. It was much easier than going to the CHC to get her weighed.

Had a nice day today just at home together, DH hungover and I had a nap around lunch time. I was driving so head is ok.:thumbsup:

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

michblb
28-10-2007, 19:36
Oh I didn't realise, sorry must have misread the thread, damn can't blame it on the preggy brain any more:D hhhmmmm or can I??

Cass, When I told DH about your suggestion of weighing her on the bathroom scales, with and without me, he came up with another idea - he put a plastic cutting board on some small kitchen scales and tried to balance her on them.:laughing: Neeless to say it wasn't a success but god love em!! Oh and then left the cutting board in the nursery.:rolleyes:

Dellibelli
28-10-2007, 19:48
Hey girls - sorry but I didn't think to ask for a SMS buddy, so am back now. Have posted in the announcement section and also on the October Mummies section as well. Will do a Birth-story as soon as I have time.

As for BF - it did not work out, as Oshan would not latch on, and after 4 days of expressing and topping him up on formula, I gave up. Not beating myself up as he is healthy and happy and DH is loving the feeding and bonding that comes with each evening.

The one thing you will learn is "mothers intuition", so trust that you will make the right decision to suit you and your baby,

As my LC said (yes I tried many things before I gave up), "the important thing is that the Mum, Dad and Baby are happy".

Happy Mummy = Happy Baby...

Either way, he gets fed. Don't beat yourself up about it... :hugs:

TeamAwesome
29-10-2007, 03:42
THanks girls,
panadeine has been my good friend since I got home (I can't take tablets and they don't stock soluble in the hospy!) I have kept myself "sufficiently drugged" for the past few days and have had my heat pack at the ready for most of it... the funny thing is that I normally don't take anything more then panadol and even that makes me sleepy normally so I have been rather out of it, though in a good way.

Aden bought me a lovely comfy rocker on Saturday and yesterday we went to the shops and it was really windy and poor Angelina has spent most of the night in absolute pain from it. finally managed to ease it though (had to give her to Aden as she kept thinking she was hungry and wantingmilk from me so I was not the comfort she was expecting me to be.) finally it was all settled down around 12.30am and she had an hour long feed (which was great for me as my ignoring her pleas had left me very swollen and sore) so hopefully she'll be asleep for awhile yet.

After talking to my MIL today I'm going to get my medical records and write a letter to the hospital as it's not good enough what happened to me, if they'd read my file they'd have seen I have short established labours and they shouldn't have sent me home.

anyhow I am off to go post my birth story.

SJE
29-10-2007, 09:23
Oh, and BTW, it is now called placenta brain ;) You brain does actually shrink whilst you are pg (roughly about 5%), not sure how long it takes to get back to normal though.

I think it is cummulative i.e. 1x baby = 5%, 2x= 10% and permanent:D .
In all seriousness, it may return once bubs lets us sleep (when they are 21 I think):laughing: .

O I so need a laugh today!

DelliBelli - quote As my LC said (yes I tried many things before I gave up), "the important thing is that the Mum, Dad and Baby are happy".
Happy Mummy = Happy Baby...quote

So agree with this. I wonder if the pressures and sleep deprivation only feeds conditions like PND.

There has been some useful info from the ABA. Today I'm off to the mum & bubs clinic and will be contacting a LC to hopefully come to the house:fingerscrossed: .

I tried skin to skin last night in the tub. Will have to try to have some sessions of this today whilst dd1 is asleep:yes: .

Hope you all have a good day and your little cherubs behave themselves!

Shakey
29-10-2007, 10:35
whats this Tiggie Hall business???? i've never heard of her

Shakey
29-10-2007, 11:41
My error, Tizzie Hall (not Tiggie), sorry if that confused you.

http://www.saveoursleep.com.au/

nope still confused lol still have no idea who Tizzie Hall is lol

will check out that website :thumbsup:

Shakey
29-10-2007, 11:43
bummer I can't see what the routeins are, I have to buy them lol

can anyone tell me what she says?

Mammy
29-10-2007, 11:47
Hi all

First post for me in this new thread!
Glad to see all mums and bubs doing well.

Bubs had only been waking once at night but the last few nights has been waking twice. She still takes over an hour to feed each time and the night before last it was 2 hours :eek:
Mummy is a little tired these days :sleeping:

Took her to get weighed last week and she put on 310g since she left hospital, she still hasnt regained her birth weight yet.

Oh no, shes crying for more milk...

BBL..............................

Shakey
29-10-2007, 12:26
Hi Moo Moo, glad things are going well

Cassie, it doesn't sound like anything I havn't heard before, and sounds more like common sence than anything

i'm basically doing that routein now,

Mammy
29-10-2007, 13:30
Gosh that was a long feed!
Shes so grizzly today, just wants to be held and fed all the time, i cant get anything done! Shes finally asleep now, on my lap, not going to risk putting her in the bassinett coz im sure she'll wake up. Well actually we havent used the bassinett at all during the day (or at night for that matter :o ), she usually sleeps wherever, on the couch, in the rocker, in her pram going for walks.

I put her into the ergo baby carrier earlier and she closed her eyes straight away! I got worried though as she looked all squashed up and like she was going to suffocate, she seemed happy though... Maybe i havent got the positioning right... Anyone else got one?

Mrs G that looks like a good routine, its probably the total opposite of what we're doing! Shes at her most active after 6pm and doesnt go to bed for the night till about 10 or 11pm. Shes the ruler of the house and it doesnt look like changing anytime soon...

OK gotta try and put her down so i can get some lunch while ive got a chance!

sam's mum
29-10-2007, 13:58
I got the book from the library. :thumbsup: (where's the cheapskate emoticon)

basically it is about how kids resond better to a routine. She is big on making sure that you are feeding often enough so that your milk supply stays good and learning to tell the difference between your babies cries. She believes that if your baby is in some sort of routine you will learn the difference quicker because you will be able to look at the time and get an idea of what they probably want.

With DS I got him into routine from about 9mths, but very loosely.

With DD I am trying to get it quite close so that I can learn her cries (you would think I would have that under control by now) but I am not too worried if she is out of whack.

It is handy when you are trying to plan ahead for appointments and things like that.

A lot of people bag her because she doesn't have formal qualifications and has no kids, but her routines have worked for soooo many people. Anyway, if it doesn't work for me and mine, I won't do it.

Cenni
29-10-2007, 17:21
Hi All
Good to see you MooMoo:)

Penny is having a great day, lots of awake moments and cuddles with Daddy which he loved he returns to work on Wed, its been great having him home, especially his help with housework and cooking.

Hope you all had a great weekend we had many visitors yeaterday and Penny was asleep most of the time which was fine, she woke for a feed and nappy change. We find that she has lots of awake time with just Chris and I not when other people are around.

zenifa
29-10-2007, 17:24
I'm now going to give my 2c worth on routines.
I think that routines certainly do have their place, as babies (and toddlers for that matter) do like the comfort and security of the predictability of structure and routines and knowing what to expect. However, I think that there needs to be some flexibility and you need to find what works for you and your baby. I think that sometimes mums (& esp new mums) can get quite hung up about keeping in with strict routines and obsess about times and not focus on their babies needs, which they are often trying to communicate through their cries.

Look with DD1 I was given the Babywise book (which I don't recommend, for lots of reasons) and also the Gina Ford contented baby book (by a nanny friend of mine in the UK who has over 10yrs experience looking after babies, esp twins, triplets and she uses this). I also read (from the library) books by the Baby whisperer, Robin Barker, Tizzie Hall etc, but found a lot of them quite strict about routines.
I just tried to focus on my baby and have a loose routine (feed, activity, sleep) roughly around the every 4hr mark and increase the times as they get older.
I am probably also lucky to have a very calm and content bubs who doesn't really grizzle much between feeds, but does have wind occasionally and I do feed her (consistently) at 6pm, 10pm, between 2-3am and then 6-7am. From 6am-6pm, she is demand fed, so it can be every couple of hours or every 4-5 hrs, varies quite a bit, but it seems to work for us. Sometimes, she can bf for 30 mins (& do both sides) or do an hour and it can be one side (like today when she was resisting a nap, so we coslept and she fed off my left boob for almost an hour and is still asleep, but will be up soon for her 6pm feed).

I don't really have any advice for anyone, just wanted to share my experience.

Anne - if you are concerned about her feeding or sleeping, contact a LC, ABA or CHN. For me I'm not so worried about my DD2's sleeping and feeding during the day, as she seems to be very consistent at night, which is a HUGE help for me, as I get 6-8hrs sleep per night, so I can deal with her varied feeds/sleeps during the day without getting too frazzled, even with a demanding 2yo.

Speaking of my 2yo, I got a call from a childcare centre which has a place for her next year. We put DD1's name down when I was 5mths pregnant with her (yes almost 3 yrs ago!!), its one of the best ones in the area and we had already thought about putting her name down for kindy/pre-prep. Now with DD2 here, I am considering putting DD1 in for 1-2 days/week, so she can get more socialisation/ stimulation, plus it means we will be guaranteed of her place there for pre-prep/kindy. Now I can rationalise in my head all the benefits for DD1, plus it means I get 1-2 days with DD2 alone and I can get things done, so.............why do I feel guilty about putting her into daycare when I'm not even working?
what do you ladies think? (I think I just need support on this one........DH has been great, he's supportive and thinks its a good idea)

Anyway, better dash, see what DD1 is up to with DH, see how dinner is progressing and get DD2 up for her feed and a bath!!

michblb
29-10-2007, 20:30
Hi all

Sorry not much time to do personals so just a quick post. Took Charlotte on a long trip to visit a friend for coffee and then a nap this arvo. She was good in the car, cried a bit on the way there but other than that was fine. She's been tired eversince though and grizzled all day (and still going) so doubt will get much sleep tonight. And all her feeds are out cause she slept so long so will have to get up twice tonight, gggrrrr.

Anyway will try to pop in tomorrow for personals. Hope everyone is well.

TeamAwesome
30-10-2007, 04:22
so.............why do I feel guilty about putting her into daycare when I'm not even working?
what do you ladies think? (I think I just need support on this one........DH has been great, he's supportive and thinks its a good idea)


I say go for it Z!! It is a great idea! I personally am over the whole "mother guilt" that if you aren't working you should be the carer 100% of the time, that when the dad's are spending time with their children while the mum is out it's called "babysitting" when it's parenting.

It is going to benefit both you and your DD's as your DD1 will get to do something special just for her, you will get one on one time with DD2. You will appreciate DD1 more, you will watch her social skills flourish as well as other skills she will pick up from doing different activities which are harder for you to do when you have a new bub. In short GO FOR IT!!:yes:

Routines... I've never done one, My kids will now both go to bed at 7pm and be asleep by 7.30. I can attest that carrying baby around does not spoil them and make a rod for your own back, neither does co-sleeping. My kids both happily sleep in their own beds and have been co-slept with for various reasons at various stages for days weeks or even months so that we could get more sleep at the time over the last few years. Our "western culture" is the only one complaining of lack of sleep, the cultures who co-sleep and hold baby don't.

I personally have held my babies quite a lot more than other mums I know and they've always commented on how content and happy my babies are, despite Ty having had rather bad colic and Libby having had reflux.

My milk has definitly come in, I think I went from between a 12D-12DD premilk to 12F! I swear they're two and half times Angie's head!:eek: Aden is very pleased but a little sad that they're only "for show":laughing: but importantly bub has been having HUGE long feeds then going for a big sleep. last night she fell asleep at about 8.30 and woke at 1am.

I'm slowly getting back into reality, I had to take Angelina for her neonatal screen test yesterday, I cooked dinner and did some washing too. We're off to the GP today for a bit of a check up cos we left the hospy early and I'm also hoping to get to playgroup on tomorrow which will be a bit of a trial run for next week but hopefully with Aden in attendance. So I'm kind of getting back into the swing of things. next week will be interesting to say the least!

My FIL has put us in the poo with SIL, he called them to let them know I was off to hospital on Wed night when I was going in to be checked up on but didn't follow it up due to the lateness of my coming home etc and then of course the birth circumstances being less then ideal and then Aden slept in until 11am and started making phone calls, to people starting with his sister. she only has a mobile phone and NEVER answers it! He tried calling her about 10 times over a couple of hours so he could tell her himself and so now she's upset with us. We both say she has no right to be upset that she found out 10hrs after the birth (if Aden had his way he wouldn't have told anyone until after I came home!) but then as she's upset with everyone she knows no real details other then bubs name and when she was born. oh the reason she has no right to be upset, no leg to stand on in this case is that we found out she was pregnant a week after pretty much everyone else did where as we make sure we tell family first then friends. I'm going to enjoy the showdown if it comes to that. Aden and I believed the health, safety and well being of myself and Angelina following the birth were much more paramount then pandering to her desire to be the first to know and hold the baby, fortunately PIL's agree with us.

The upside of her being shirty with us is that she hasn't bothered to come meet Angelina yet and it's the first time we've actually had some space from her after having bub and I like it!:smiliedance:

hmm should probably go grab some sleep while I can.. hopefully Angelina will have another nice long sleep for me.

erinp
30-10-2007, 07:20
so.............why do I feel guilty about putting her into daycare when I'm not even working?
what do you ladies think? (I think I just need support on this one........DH has been great, he's supportive and thinks its a good idea)


Zeinfa I think it is a great idea to put DD1 into daycare!!!! At her age now, she will really benefit from the social interaction and will probably gain more independence as well. I don't think it matters that you're not working; your DD2 will appreciate the special time you can spend with her alone, you will appreciate the time you get to relax a bit more, and if you are less tired/stressed then everyone in your house will be happy. And, as you say, it's one of the best.....that would have the deal sealed for me, as a good school is so important (and can be so hard to get into!). I say go for it :thumbsup:


My milk has definitly come in, I think I went from between a 12D-12DD premilk to 12F! I swear they're two and half times Angie's head!:eek: Aden is very pleased but a little sad that they're only "for show"

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: My hubby thought it was great too, but I was like "don't touch them!" (they were too sore...) and he was quite disappointed.....

Anyway, I have been missing for a couple of days, we have been busy again and then it all just crashed down on me and Sunday night I was in pieces and DH had to pick them up....I have been tired and there is a lot of family cr@p going on that I won't go into but think I am back on track....went to the ECHC yesterday and my little skinny bub has gotten chubbier and chubbier - weighing in at 4.2kg (fully clothed though, so not quite 4kg I guess) - means she's put on nearly a whole kilo in less than 4 weeks. She's looking really nice now that she has a bit of flesh on her. :yes:

Also put my name down for mother's group when they start one, have no idea when that will be but I'm itching to get out and interact with other mums with bubs; I know a lot of babies but in terms of those I see there's mainly just one friend whose son is 11mo so I'd really like to get in touch with others (even though there's all you girls, but looking for some interaction outside the house too).

Anyway hope you all have nice days with your bubs, looks like it's gonna be another hot one here!

laurannson
30-10-2007, 12:07
Howdy-found you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well today is my first day all alone,as Mum and Dad flew back to Adelaide this morning-very sad,but on the other hand felt like I was ready to get started with my new life!!!!!
I still aren't driving though,so DH is the taxi man for the next week or so-which does take the pressure off to get everyone out the door by a certain time!!!!!!
Samuel is going pretty well considering his rough start to life-feeding basically every 3 hours,but unfortunately unsettled in the evenings.......and definitely more awake!!!!!!
Have been for a walk this morning though,so it was nice to get out for a while!!!!
Anyhow feed time-so will BBL!!!!
Hope everyone is having a great day!
Cheers!

zenifa
30-10-2007, 16:09
Zeinfa I think it is a great idea to put DD1 into daycare!!!! At her age now, she will really benefit from the social interaction and will probably gain more independence as well. I don't think it matters that you're not working; your DD2 will appreciate the special time you can spend with her alone, you will appreciate the time you get to relax a bit more, and if you are less tired/stressed then everyone in your house will be happy. And, as you say, it's one of the best.....that would have the deal sealed for me, as a good school is so important (and can be so hard to get into!). I say go for it

My hubby thought it was great too, but I was like "don't touch them!" (they were too sore...) and he was quite disappointed.....

Anyway, I have been missing for a couple of days, we have been busy again and then it all just crashed down on me and Sunday night I was in pieces and DH had to pick them up....I have been tired and there is a lot of family cr@p going on that I won't go into but think I am back on track....went to the ECHC yesterday and my little skinny bub has gotten chubbier and chubbier - weighing in at 4.2kg (fully clothed though, so not quite 4kg I guess) - means she's put on nearly a whole kilo in less than 4 weeks. She's looking really nice now that she has a bit of flesh on her.
Also put my name down for mother's group when they start one, have no idea when that will be but I'm itching to get out and interact with other mums with bubs; I know a lot of babies but in terms of those I see there's mainly just one friend whose son is 11mo so I'd really like to get in touch with others (even though there's all you girls, but looking for some interaction outside the house too).

Anyway hope you all have nice days with your bubs, looks like it's gonna be another hot one here!

Thanks for your kind words of support, it really helped!!

I can so relate - my boobs are a total NO GO zone for DH, they are still really supersensitive, so for now he can look but no touching!!

Sounds like Hannah is doing really well, and glad that you are feeling better - yes the hormonal ups and downs do continue even after pregnancy!! Good luck and hope you can start attending a mother's group soon, its good to catch up with other mums with bubs the same age, it was a sanity saver for me 1st time round!!


I say go for it Z!! It is a great idea! I personally am over the whole "mother guilt" that if you aren't working you should be the carer 100% of the time, that when the dad's are spending time with their children while the mum is out it's called "babysitting" when it's parenting.

It is going to benefit both you and your DD's as your DD1 will get to do something special just for her, you will get one on one time with DD2. You will appreciate DD1 more, you will watch her social skills flourish as well as other skills she will pick up from doing different activities which are harder for you to do when you have a new bub. In short GO FOR IT!!:yes:

Routines... I've never done one, My kids will now both go to bed at 7pm and be asleep by 7.30. I can attest that carrying baby around does not spoil them and make a rod for your own back, neither does co-sleeping. My kids both happily sleep in their own beds and have been co-slept with for various reasons at various stages for days weeks or even months so that we could get more sleep at the time over the last few years. Our "western culture" is the only one complaining of lack of sleep, the cultures who co-sleep and hold baby don't.

I personally have held my babies quite a lot more than other mums I know and they've always commented on how content and happy my babies are, despite Ty having had rather bad colic and Libby having had reflux.

My milk has definitly come in, I think I went from between a 12D-12DD premilk to 12F! I swear they're two and half times Angie's head!:eek: Aden is very pleased but a little sad that they're only "for show":laughing: but importantly bub has been having HUGE long feeds then going for a big sleep. last night she fell asleep at about 8.30 and woke at 1am.

I'm slowly getting back into reality, I had to take Angelina for her neonatal screen test yesterday, I cooked dinner and did some washing too. We're off to the GP today for a bit of a check up cos we left the hospy early and I'm also hoping to get to playgroup on tomorrow which will be a bit of a trial run for next week but hopefully with Aden in attendance. So I'm kind of getting back into the swing of things. next week will be interesting to say the least!

My FIL has put us in the poo with SIL, he called them to let them know I was off to hospital on Wed night when I was going in to be checked up on but didn't follow it up due to the lateness of my coming home etc and then of course the birth circumstances being less then ideal and then Aden slept in until 11am and started making phone calls, to people starting with his sister. she only has a mobile phone and NEVER answers it! He tried calling her about 10 times over a couple of hours so he could tell her himself and so now she's upset with us. We both say she has no right to be upset that she found out 10hrs after the birth (if Aden had his way he wouldn't have told anyone until after I came home!) but then as she's upset with everyone she knows no real details other then bubs name and when she was born. oh the reason she has no right to be upset, no leg to stand on in this case is that we found out she was pregnant a week after pretty much everyone else did where as we make sure we tell family first then friends. I'm going to enjoy the showdown if it comes to that. Aden and I believed the health, safety and well being of myself and Angelina following the birth were much more paramount then pandering to her desire to be the first to know and hold the baby, fortunately PIL's agree with us.

The upside of her being shirty with us is that she hasn't bothered to come meet Angelina yet and it's the first time we've actually had some space from her after having bub and I like it!:smiliedance:

hmm should probably go grab some sleep while I can.. hopefully Angelina will have another nice long sleep for me.

Thanks Nat for your words of support. I totally agree with you, that it will benefit both DD1 and DD2, plus I will appreciate time with DD1 more too.
I guess I am also aware that my maternity leave runs out in a month and then next year when I plan to have DD1 attend daycare, it will be an extra cost for us (but I told DH we would use some of our FTB to cover the cost). It will just take me a while to get used to the idea.
Glad to hear Angelina is doing so well and you are amazing getting back into the swing of things so fast, but probably a good idea, esp as Aden will have to go back to work soon.
I agree with you re:SIL, she just needs to get over it. So she found out a few hours later, so what?? As long as you and Angelina are doing well, that is most important!!
I agree that babywearing/holding/nursing and cosleeping is great for mums and bubs and I think that sometimes people want to get their babies to 'fit in' with routines and timetables and because they don't it can stress them out, that is why we don't really have a routine either, but it works for us!!
Like you, my boobs have gotten HUGE, I was a D cup before I had DD1, then prior to DD2 I was a DD cup and now I'm an E or an F :eek: - its very hard for find mat bras that fit, hoping that once my supply settles down it will be easier!!


Howdy-found you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well today is my first day all alone,as Mum and Dad flew back to Adelaide this morning-very sad,but on the other hand felt like I was ready to get started with my new life!!!!!
I still aren't driving though,so DH is the taxi man for the next week or so-which does take the pressure off to get everyone out the door by a certain time!!!!!!
Samuel is going pretty well considering his rough start to life-feeding basically every 3 hours,but unfortunately unsettled in the evenings.......and definitely more awake!!!!!!
Have been for a walk this morning though,so it was nice to get out for a while!!!!
Anyhow feed time-so will BBL!!!!
Hope everyone is having a great day!
Cheers!

Sounds like you are enjoying getting back to your 'new' normal life, great that you still have DH to drive you around for another week and all is going well with Samuel!!

Well all is going pretty well with us, DH took the day off work yesterday to be with us, as he just didn't want to leave us and go to work!! We really enjoyed spending more family time with him and he was great helping me with chores, seriously have the two kids is a real two person operation, really baffled as to how you mummies with more than two kids manage.

MIL came and we went to playgroup with the girls which was lots of fun - the real test is next week when I try to go on my own with them (note to self - stay positive, you can do this!!)
Seriously, I am so lucky to have 2 healthy happy girls, and still I am finding it a challenge and struggle at times, maybe its just hormones, but moods can be up and down (all within a day). I just keep telling myself, that as a family we are all adjusting and it should settle down soon.

Change of topic - what has everyone got planned for their October baby's first Xmas? Gift ideas? Family traditions? Going on holidays?

sam's mum
30-10-2007, 16:24
OMG I took Belle to the clinic today just for a weigh in - she is a little piggy!!

27/9 born - 2.34kg
6/10 check up - 2.6 kg
30/10 weigh in - 3.44 kg

I am happy that she is gaining weight, especially because Sam is still only just over 10kg now, but wow, I wasn't expecting that weight.

zenifa
30-10-2007, 16:28
That is fantastic news Jane!! :thumbsup: Sounds like Belle is doing really well!!:yelclap:

Ximena has gained 500g in the first week home after being in hospital and then in the following week gained 600g. Getting her weighed tomorrow, she's already nearly 4.5kg!! (born 3.35 kg), can't believe she will be a month old on Thurs - its already gone so fast!!

sam's mum
30-10-2007, 16:35
I guess after the first two I am just not used to babies that put on weight. At 11 DD1 is still only 32kg.

sam's mum
30-10-2007, 16:36
and I know what you mean by time going fast, whenever people ask how old she is my first thought is a week or two, but then I work it out.

Mammy
30-10-2007, 16:41
Routines... I've never done one, My kids will now both go to bed at 7pm and be asleep by 7.30. I can attest that carrying baby around does not spoil them and make a rod for your own back, neither does co-sleeping. My kids both happily sleep in their own beds and have been co-slept with for various reasons at various stages for days weeks or even months so that we could get more sleep at the time over the last few years. Our "western culture" is the only one complaining of lack of sleep, the cultures who co-sleep and hold baby don't.

I personally have held my babies quite a lot more than other mums I know and they've always commented on how content and happy my babies are, despite Ty having had rather bad colic and Libby having had reflux.

So glad to hear this Nat. DD has been really grizzly the last couple of days and wants to be held all the time. I dont mind doing this at all but I know some people think that im 'spoiling' her. :rolleyes: She also sleeps in our bed at night and im convinced that if i put her in her bassinett, she wouldnt sleep as well as she does.

Mammy
30-10-2007, 16:43
Just a little reminder for everyone to put signs on their doors tomorrow night if you don't want to be near constantly disturbed :devil6:

Last year the idiots would ring the doorbell about 3 times and then knock another 3 times, grrrr, if they even think about it this year I am going to send their b*tts flying from the doorway :yes: (might I add not one of them was American which just made me even angrier since Halloween is NOT an aussie tradition, and they don't even dress up their houses with halloween decorations and pumpkins yet they expect free lollies!)

Aww, i love halloween :o . Its HUGE in Ireland. Thanks for the reminder anyway Cassie, i had totally forgotten.

Mammy
30-10-2007, 16:46
Does anyone know where i can find out about Mothers Groups in my area? :confused:

Mammy
30-10-2007, 17:02
Your CHN should have put you in touch with mothers groups at your first visit, I know mine really pushed me to with my first bub and got angry with me when I knocked her back and told her to back off, lol.


Thanks Cassie, im seeing the CHN again on thursday so will ask her :thumbsup:

sam's mum
30-10-2007, 18:29
Never thought about that, maybe that is why I had so many kids knocking on my door, since the origin of halloween is actually ireland/UK... about 95% of our suburb is british/scottish people. I wonder why it is so huge for american/canadian people when it never originated there.

the great irish exodus in the early 1900s. :thumbsup:

erinp
30-10-2007, 19:17
Does anyone know where i can find out about Mothers Groups in my area? :confused:

You can call your area health service to find out, my nurse gave me their number and I rang yesterday - they rang today for a group starting next week so I am stoked!!

Jane that's great that Belle is doing so well!! :thumbsup:

Zenifa sounds like you are very busy and will need to have DD1 in daycare! I'm sure you will do well at playgroup on your own. So nice that DH took the day off to be with you all :)

Had a nice quiet day here, had mum over in the afternoon and Hannah slept the whole time - could tell mum really wanted her to wake up!! She is a big sleepy head today....

Cenni
30-10-2007, 19:50
Hello

Good day today, Penny had a visit from the community nurse and she is returning tomorrow to do her check and weight as today she spend time talking to me about feeding and as it was her first visit chatting to Chris and I about us and filling in paperwork. She was a nice lady, very supportive and positive. :) Just what I needed.

zenifa-I have worked in childcare for over 10 years and always supported any family that used care whether they be working parents or parents needing respite. Your DD is at a very good age to be in the social and educational environment, and sounds like you know about centre because you said its good its very important to know their philosphy and routine, so you feel comfortable leaving her.

erin-Penny was like that yesterday afternoon when Chris' Dad dropped in, we could tell he really wanted her to be up, but she needs her sleep.

MooMoo-Hope you find a good mothers group I am looking forward to talking to the nurse probably tomorrow about finding one for myself.

erinp
30-10-2007, 20:00
Change of topic - what has everyone got planned for their October baby's first Xmas? Gift ideas? Family traditions? Going on holidays?

Just remembered I didn't answer this....good thing to start thinking about....we have always done the run around to everyone (one year went to 5 places on xmas day!!) so this year we are thinking of keeping it quiet and just seeing my mum & family and DH's sister (both his parents have passed away so she is the closest relative on his side) and her family (3 kids). We are trying to think of what to buy Hannah for a present - do people have any ideas/suggestions??

Jillian good to hear all is going well :thumbsup:

michblb
30-10-2007, 21:54
So many pages of:ecomcity: sorry I skimmed them, BH time is so short these days, will do personals next post, promise(I know I know I said that last time)

Hope everyone is well and all lil' bubbas are being :angel: not :devil6:

Re routine - Charlotte is kinda in her own, which is similar to yours Cass, sometimes it varies but she wakes up pretty much on que for feeds.

re xmas - we are meant to be flying to the Gold Coast to see my family and DSSs Mother wants to go to Brissy to see her new hubby's family. But she wants us to pay for the boys' flights - v typical:rolleyes: Anyway doubt she can afford it so if DSSs don't go we will stay in Sydney and have a quiet one probably here with DH's family. So time will tell.

Does anyone remember what 8 hours of sleep is like? I've forgotten but really need some sleep vibes. DH was tired from our night out on the w/e so didn't want to get up for feeds last night so I did two night feeds (not ususal) and then couldn't get a nap today. Just f**ed. Better go do the feed and put myself to bed.
Off to the paed tomorrow for a check up and sleep, sleep, sleep and more sleep.

Cenni
31-10-2007, 07:15
:xmas: The Christmas Question?
We will most likely be having lunch at my Mums then a Dinner at DP's parents house, his Mum has to work Christmas morning from 6am-3pm, but has invited her side of the fam up for the afternoon.
As for a gift for Penny we are still thinking about what we should get her.

mich-I have forgetten what eight hours feels like, not sure what the longest sleep I have had since Penny arrived maybe 2 hours. Sleep vibes to you. :)

zenifa
31-10-2007, 12:24
Mich - for me I can get usually two lots of 3 or 4hrs, so I average 6-8 per night, but yes I have forgotten what 8 hrs uninterrupted sleep feels like. Once my milk supply has established, then I will start expressing so DH can feed Miss X on Fri and Sat nights and I can sleep through that night time feed (& not wake up with 2 watermelons on my chest).....so looking forward to that, its about 3 or so weeks away!!

Xmas.......looks like we will go to my parents for lunch and DH's family for dinner and then a few days later we are off for our 1st family holiday as a family of 4 to Mooloolaba for a week - can't wait!! Still not sure about presents.

Have had 'one of those' days today, when nothing seems to be going right and both myself and my DDs have been a bit grizzly. Went to get DD2 weighed and there was a huge queue, so skipped it so we could get to storytime at the library on time, but the librarian was out, so another filled in and it was a bit disappointing, not many stories or rhymes but DD1 did enjoy the colouring and choosing some books - we all got a bit hot and bothered on the way home and then DD1 was just testing my patience, trying to play the computer, resist a nap, ignore any instructions I gave her etc and I finally got to have my lunch at 3pm and my shower today at 3.30pm. My only achievement is to get dinner on.
The bright side today was that I found out my mum's biopsy results, the lump was benign, ie not cancerous, so that is great news and put all of my frustrations today in a little perspective. Can't wait til DH gets home, only an hour to go. Better go and see what trouble DD1 is getting up to.

SJE
31-10-2007, 16:31
Hi guys

Just a quick one today.

Have a cracker of a headache so I will have to jump on here another day for personals. Reading really hurts atm.

DD1 has decided to no longer have afternoon naps since the bubs has come home. Basically she is a like a monkey on speed between 1 and 9:30pm:eek: :banghead: .

All this expressing and sleep deprivation on top of this doesnt help with the coping mechanisms.

On the positive side bubs is well behaved and requires very little settling if any. Once her belly is full, she is out like a light. If she would only attach to the boob consistently.

AnD05
31-10-2007, 21:19
:wave: Hi girls!

OMG boy does time fly! I've been trying to get on here and post for ages, all I seem to be able to do is read a few posts and then I always get called away!

So finally Im managing some BH time!

SeeJayElle - Yeah for bubs settling so easily! My DS started off this way but just recently has been making it difficult for us & him! :fingerscrossed: he goes back to being a good boy soon! Goodluck with bubs attaching and hope you get some sleep!

Zenifa - Even though you sound like you had a tiring day your previous posts sound like you are coping really well with your 2 DD's now. It always amazes me how much you seem to get done, you sound very organised! So glad to hear that your mums biopsy results were neg!!! You must be so relieved!! Hope DD1 behaves for you tomoro!!

Cenni - 2hrs sleep! I have been really lucky and have gotten 2 6hrs stints :eek: ! Mind you last night I got the 3 lots of 2hrs. I never can tell what DS is going to do every night sleep wise, hhmmm I wonder when I will see some sort of pattern....Sending you some sleep vibes darl!:wizard:

Mich - :wizard: Sleep vibes for you too!

Well, things going well here. My mum has been here for the last week and a half but is leaving me on Fri :gloomy: . I don't know how Il cope, she's been such a help! DS has a really unsettled patch between 7pm-11ish and it gets so tiring trying to settle him, she does a wonderful job. Hopefully he will outgrow it soon! He is still eating well but is vomiting. The CHN isnt too concerned as he is still putting on weight.

Well Id better run, will try and get on here more often, I miss my BH fix!

Hope everyone is well!

A

TeamAwesome
01-11-2007, 04:17
Hi girls,
just a quick post from me as I should so be sleeping.

Went to playgroup yesterday, Aden dropped us off and picked us up to make it a bit easier for me (he was helping his dad out and having some kid free time as he's been full on with them since I had Angelina). I freaked out a couple of mums who are pregnant when I told them how I had her, their faces were classic but they both live much closer to the hospital then I do so shouldn't be a problem for them. Angie had a feed and fell asleep on my lap basically straight up.

Today Aden and I are sorting out as much as we can for Libby's birthday (dec 20th) and Christmas Day, with him going to be Libby's birthday and we're hosting Christmas day lunch this year so need his input now as it's hard to organise these things over the phone.

so for Christmas day we're having a quiet mornign with us and the kids then having DH's family over for lunch will just do cold ham, some seafood and some salads and some drinks. Nothing fancy and this way we can have a nice day and the kids will not be dragged all over the place, Angie can nap in her cot I have her room I can escape to if it gets too much. We can all have a nice early night too.

I've no idea what to get for Christmas for Angie yet but I'm sure I'll find something cute and special for her.

better go grab some more sleep while I can.

Nat

erinp
01-11-2007, 07:55
Hi all,

Zenifa I'm so pleased to hear your mum's results were negative - that is fantastic news and must be such a great weight off your shoulders. I hope you have a better day today. Some days are just like that aren't they....

An great to see you back on! Glad all is going well with Finlay

SeeJayElle hope your headache is gone.....

Nat you are brave doing Christmas lunch!!

Mich sending you some sleep vibes.... :wizard:

All going well here still; Hannah's unsettled period seems to be hovering around midnight lately so I will need to make sure I get more sleep during the days!!

AnD05
01-11-2007, 13:52
:wave: Hi all!

Well what a shocker of a night! DS decided that the 5 & 6hrs sleeps he was having during the night arent required anymore and was up every 2 hrs :eek: ! He was also very noisy, he grunts and groans like theres no tomoro, he is in his own room but its just next door and we hear everything!

He still has his unsettle period in the evening - what is all that about??- its so weird, he will be sound asleep or relaxed one minute either in our arms or in his bassinet and then screaming the next! It took some getting used to thats for sure!

We are off to the osteopath this arvo :fingerscrossed: it helps settle him a bit, :laughing: who am I kidding!!

Well hope everyone and there bubs are well!

Better go eat some lunch before the milk bar opens again!

A

michblb
01-11-2007, 15:54
Hi all

Finally some time for personals, here goes....

And - I think it's called the 'witching' hour for babies it generally affects people with a disability in the same way, but it's basically early to mid evening when bubs become fussy. There's a bit on it on the ABA website - here is the link http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/witching.html
they call it the arsenic hour. Charlotte is the same re the noises, sometimes she is so loud I sleep on the couch, atm she has snot up her nose so she does this semi-snore - which is even worse. Sorry TMI I'm trying to help her sneeze it out, but it aint budging.:laughing:

Erin, hey mate, hope you got some nap time today and Hannah is well, look forward to catching up next week.

Nat, good that you are getting help from Aden, I'm sure that made getting to play group easier. I can't wait to read your birth story either - that last post has made me more keen. Let us know when you post it or have I missed it? Would you opt for a home birth for bub 4 after your experience with Angie? Xmas sounds great - nothing like cold lunches on hot qld days, especially the seafood.:thumbsup:

Moomoo - hope you are going well and you found the local mum's group.

SeeJayElle - Sending you lots of :kiss: , sounds like you need them, hope your speed monkey settles down and starts napping again. Funny how everything seems so much worse without sleep. The other day I thought I'd left the gripewater I'd bought at the chemist and I cried my eyes out (this was after 3 hours sleep) but it was in the nappy bag.:laughing:

Zenifa, what a shocker of a day but great news re your mum.:thumbsup: That must be a load of your mind. Your first fam holiday sounds lovely.

Cenni = glad your visit went well and hope bubs has put on weight. Your xmas sounds great.

Well just a quick update cause Charlie will wake any minute for food, she's already making noises. Had a relaxing day today, good nap so thanks for allt hose slep vibes, they worked.

Trying her on Infocol for wind so see how that goes, she's been good today though.

robinson
01-11-2007, 15:56
He was also very noisy, he grunts and groans like theres no tomoro,

OMG I could have written this but SHE instead of HE.. LOL..

Chloee is doing well, we went to MOthers Group yesterday and she was weighed etc with the MCHN and she is now at 4 weeks old 3.999kg and is 52cm (she was measured at 54cm at birth but we believe they stuffed that up or she's shrunk) MCHN is very impressed with her growth and said again that I must have a fantastic milk supply..

She feeds anywhere from every two hours to sometime 5 hours at night (just the one stint of 5 hours though)

She wakes at 5ish every morning and yep Grunt and Groans like there is no tomorrow... I have resorted to putting my Ipod on when she starts this so I am distracted by the music and can just hear her grunts so i can get some more sleep..

Ummm the MIL and FIL left on Tuesday night.. its good to have the house back...

Went to Target sale today very disappointed with whats out there.. oh well maybe next time..

Hopefully heading to my parents in NSW for Xmas just waiting on Toyota to see if they will deliver our new car in time... yay!!

Umm DD1 is very good with DD2 and I'm surprisingly handling it very well and of course DH is a wonderful help..

At this stage is two kids are this easy (minus the lack of sleep) I'd definately have a third.. (BUT not for two years...LOL)

Zenifa - good to hear your mum got the all clear! oh and with regards to daycare... i send DD1 2 days a week so she can interact with other kids (she loves it) and also so i can do the housework and shopping and spend time with dd2..

zenifa
01-11-2007, 16:00
Hi guys

Just a quick one today.

Have a cracker of a headache so I will have to jump on here another day for personals. Reading really hurts atm.

DD1 has decided to no longer have afternoon naps since the bubs has come home. Basically she is a like a monkey on speed between 1 and 9:30pm:eek: :banghead: .

All this expressing and sleep deprivation on top of this doesnt help with the coping mechanisms.

On the positive side bubs is well behaved and requires very little settling if any. Once her belly is full, she is out like a light. If she would only attach to the boob consistently.

I can so relate to your experience with DD1, my own DD1 is resisting naps, and some days its a battle to get her down, I figure, she can have quiet time in her bed/room and its up to her if she has a nap or not, as I need to have a 1-2hr break (my sanity saver, ie sometimes my only chance to eat/have a shower).

Luckily DD2 is an :angel: most of the time, feeding and sleeping well, still is up 3-5hrly at night, so usually once or twice. She has unsettled periods either around lunchtime or dinnertime, lasting 1-2hrs where she wants to feed or be cuddled constantly!!

Today I took X to have an ultrasound scan of her hips, given my history (remember I have had hip problems all my life, hence having to have a c/s), but she has been given the all clear, her hips have developed normally :thumbsup: :smiliedance:
Took the opportunity with just having DD2 to look after (DD1 was with her nanna) to do a little Xmas shopping for DH today. We've had a better day today and I've got my parents popping in tomorrow briefly so that will help me enormously!!

Mich and Anne sending you both :sleeping: fairies!!

Erin - I agree, that if I can have a nap during the day (which I only did on Mon/Tues), I am a much better mood and can cope with interrupted sleep (& grizzle periods) better.

Nat - you sound pretty organised, but I guess with Aden working away soon and 3 little ones, you need to be. You are brave having Xmas day at your place, but I understand it will probably be easier to have the kids at home, then traipsing around. We are thinking we might host Xmas at ours next year for the same reason.

Hope everyone else is doing well with their little bubs!

zenifa
01-11-2007, 16:06
OMG I could have written this but SHE instead of HE.. LOL..

Chloee is doing well, we went to MOthers Group yesterday and she was weighed etc with the MCHN and she is now at 4 weeks old 3.999kg and is 52cm (she was measured at 54cm at birth but we believe they stuffed that up or she's shrunk) MCHN is very impressed with her growth and said again that I must have a fantastic milk supply..

She feeds anywhere from every two hours to sometime 5 hours at night (just the one stint of 5 hours though)

She wakes at 5ish every morning and yep Grunt and Groans like there is no tomorrow... I have resorted to putting my Ipod on when she starts this so I am distracted by the music and can just hear her grunts so i can get some more sleep..

Ummm the MIL and FIL left on Tuesday night.. its good to have the house back...

Went to Target sale today very disappointed with whats out there.. oh well maybe next time..

Hopefully heading to my parents in NSW for Xmas just waiting on Toyota to see if they will deliver our new car in time... yay!!

Umm DD1 is very good with DD2 and I'm surprisingly handling it very well and of course DH is a wonderful help..

At this stage is two kids are this easy (minus the lack of sleep) I'd definately have a third.. (BUT not for two years...LOL)

Zenifa - good to hear your mum got the all clear! oh and with regards to daycare... i send DD1 2 days a week so she can interact with other kids (she loves it) and also so i can do the housework and shopping and spend time with dd2..

Thanks Mrs R, I am getting more used to the idea of sending DD1 to daycare next year, I agree it will be the only way to do housework and shopping and spend one on one time with DD2.

Both of my girls have been loud sleepers, hence we never had a need for a baby monitor, with grunts, groans, cooing, rooster type noises, if we coslept, I would never get any sleep!!

Sounds like you are handling everything really well, and even considering a third!!
We are stopping at two and DH is due to get the snip on the 28th of this month!!

SJE
01-11-2007, 19:00
Well, things going well here. My mum has been here for the last week and a half but is leaving me on Fri :gloomy: . I don't know how Il cope, she's been such a help! DS has a really unsettled patch between 7pm-11ish and it gets so tiring trying to settle him, she does a wonderful job. Hopefully he will outgrow it soon! He is still eating well but is vomiting. The CHN isnt too concerned as he is still putting on weight.

Well Id better run, will try and get on here more often, I miss my BH fix!

Hope everyone is well!

A

Are you bottle feeding, if so then are you using gold formula?

DD1 was on gold/s26 and projectile vomitted almost every feed. Evenings were bad too (? colic) til we found out about the dream feed and the magic of a swing!
The Ha formula seems to be kinder on their tummies too.

Zenifa - Its great to hear about your mum. My dad was treated for cancer whilst I was preg with DD. A new grandchild must of been just the medicine she needed.

Shakey
01-11-2007, 19:51
Hey everyone

Zenifa great news about your mum, bet the whole family is relieved, and great that X's hips are all good, great news all around ay

AnD05 that witching hour if fun ay lol, Alexis is exactly the same, can't get much done between 6 nd 9pm, cause she's awake the whole time

SeeJayElle hope that headache has gone, my DS doesn't often have arvo sleeps anymore, unless I tire him out, so lately its been playing outside running around with him, then he'll go rest, thank god he has preschool a couple of days a week

robinson glad to hear bubs is having good weight gains, and I was told with the legnth that just about all babies seam to shrink lol, its cause the hospital use a tape to measure them so it adds a bit more cause they go over the curves

antlmummy I can just imagin the faces when you said how she entered the world,

well all things are going well here, Alexis got weighed today, she's put on 360 grams in a week, i'm so happy, last thurs I decided to stop expressing and making her feed of the side she wasn't, she's improved so much in the last week, feeding well off both sides, and not taking so long to latch on, so she's now 7lb 8oz, she's my chubba bubba, have to go back next week for another weigh in, :fingerscrossed: she has another good weight gain, then we're off to the paed later this mth to check she's going well

Cenni
01-11-2007, 20:56
Good Evening
I am about to have a nap :fingerscrossed: before Penny's next feed which is in one hour so no personals sorry.
Penny was weighed today and yesterday and over the last 48hours has gained 140grams. :yelclap: Yay I was so happy.
I have been breast feeding and expressing so most feeds she has me then a bottle of express-its great to see a weight gain.

Today we had a visit for DP's Mum, she ended up staying for a few hours and I completely forgot to offer her a drink but I did apologise twice for forgetting, she said it was cool. I was too busy with Penny as she was a little unsettled while she was visiting, so it slipped my mind.

Will probably try and come back later to read all posts, hope everyone is well.

mum_inlove
01-11-2007, 21:20
Hi all :wave:

I can finally join you all October mummies. Our lil darling is 10 days old today. On the day we got discharged from the hosp, she'd lost 10% of her birth weight. I was very worried as I then knew the reason why she slept for almost 10 hours straight at one time. So we started to wake her up and fed her pretty much every chances we got. Only 4 days after discharged, she'd already put 240g, almost all the weight she lost. So the midwives are happy, and we couldn't be happier. Now that she's putting on weight, she's looking like a newborn and starting to stay awake longer.

Olivia's a good sleeper, too. Especially during the night. I'm pretty much doing demand b/fing. She wouldn't take the dummy, when she does, she'll suck for a min or so, then spit it out and drift to sleep. At night, she'll wake up for a feed, when she finishes, I'll just put her back in the bassinet, and she'll go to sleep on her own. Very good girl indeed.

Surprisingly, the adjusment is pretty good, my scar's healing pretty good. Ds' starting to show more interest in Olivia, he still wouldn't hold her, but he'll stroke her hair and gives her lots of kisses and cuddles. Olivia only wakes up once during the night, so I haven't been really tired. I do still have a nap when ds and Olivia have their nap in the morning.:sleeping:

My mom's been a great help. She cooks, clean, and doing everything. I feel really bad to see her doing all that stuff and knowing I can't help much. She's going home this sat then Grant will has his 3 weeks off. Yay! can't wait.:smiliedance:

Can't wait till I can drive again tho'. I miss my mothers group. Basically I just miss going out even for a day. But I'm still not game enough to try to go out by myself and 2 kids. I know I'll have to do it sooner.:yes:

Anyway, that's all for now. I'll write again later:wave:

zenifa
02-11-2007, 12:01
Are you bottle feeding, if so then are you using gold formula?

DD1 was on gold/s26 and projectile vomitted almost every feed. Evenings were bad too (? colic) til we found out about the dream feed and the magic of a swing!
The Ha formula seems to be kinder on their tummies too.

Zenifa - Its great to hear about your mum. My dad was treated for cancer whilst I was preg with DD. A new grandchild must of been just the medicine she needed.

Hope your dad is okay now. Yes my mum was pestering me for 10yrs to give her grandchildren, so now she has two she is over the moon and has even handed in her notice today, as she wants to retire to spend more time with the girls!! My parents' recent health scares have led them to reprioritise and both are retiring by Xmas, despite being still quite young (54 and 58).


Hey everyone

Zenifa great news about your mum, bet the whole family is relieved, and great that X's hips are all good, great news all around ay

AnD05 that witching hour if fun ay lol, Alexis is exactly the same, can't get much done between 6 nd 9pm, cause she's awake the whole time

SeeJayElle hope that headache has gone, my DS doesn't often have arvo sleeps anymore, unless I tire him out, so lately its been playing outside running around with him, then he'll go rest, thank god he has preschool a couple of days a week

robinson glad to hear bubs is having good weight gains, and I was told with the legnth that just about all babies seam to shrink lol, its cause the hospital use a tape to measure them so it adds a bit more cause they go over the curves

antlmummy I can just imagin the faces when you said how she entered the world,

well all things are going well here, Alexis got weighed today, she's put on 360 grams in a week, i'm so happy, last thurs I decided to stop expressing and making her feed of the side she wasn't, she's improved so much in the last week, feeding well off both sides, and not taking so long to latch on, so she's now 7lb 8oz, she's my chubba bubba, have to go back next week for another weigh in, :fingerscrossed: she has another good weight gain, then we're off to the paed later this mth to check she's going well

Yes its great to have the good news about mum and X's hips!!
Congrats on Alexis' weight gain, she is doing very well, thanks to her great mum.

Jillian and Anggy - great to see you both back in this thread, glad to hear your bubs are doing so well.

I am doing okay, a bit tired, as DD2 was up every 3hrs last night for a feed (rather than her usual 4-5hrs), so hoping to get a nap today. Also had mum and dad pop over to help out (dad took DD1 to the playground) which was great, feel more calm and on top of things.
No major plans this weekend, but will be going up to Maleny on Sunday for my friends blessing way (she's due to have her 1st bubs in 6 weeks), so that should be fun.
Have a great day and I will try to pop back in when I can!!

erinp
02-11-2007, 12:18
It's good to hear so many happy mummies in here :) I'll add myself to the list as things have been pretty good here. Had 2 bad nights but once Hannah settled she still slept 6 hours, but then last night we tried a new routine (actually, I should say "we tried a routine", because previously we haven't really had any routine...) and it worked beautifully and she settled wonderfully! We have been kept busy but still getting a nap in the arvos which is nice....

Anyway I am going to be slack and not post any personals for that very reason - to go and get some :sleeping: before heading out for coffee with a friend later....

TeamAwesome
02-11-2007, 16:00
Hi girls,
another quick one from me, Angelina has been sleeping great but I've been having a hard time going back to sleep at night in between feeds so am rather tired.

It's been great having Aden home I'm so grateful for having him here as I've been having a couple of naps as I'm still kind of catching up from before I had Angie.

He leaves very early Monday morning so will be interesting to see how I go after he's gone. I may be on here a bit winging about him being away so sorry in advance for that.

Oh there's Angelina letting me know it's well and truly time for a feed.

will be on more after Aden's gone away.

Nat

Kyahli
02-11-2007, 16:21
hey mummies...
havent been aroun for a long time, havent ha internet and been busy with rhyder and kaelum!!

Things are going well, though he is a REALLY sleepy baby!!! i let him sleep through the 6 hours of a night, though have to wake him for feeds during day and night... week before last week we had good weight gain though the last week we have lost 200grams.... but he is still settled and all that, so the health nurse isnt that worried...!!
started not looking as jaundice as he was! he has had his one or two unsettled afternoons, but thats all good, i dont mind...
kaelum is a little bit of a s***, wont leave him alone!! he will get over it though, i hope!!
hope all horse people are ei free!!!
will try to update when i can!!

love peace and happiness to all...

sam's mum
02-11-2007, 17:01
*sleepy dust fairy* I hope that everyone is getting to where they can get enough sleep.

good to hear that everyone seems to be doing well.

Belle is feeding properly off both sides now. woohoo. I am much less anxious now about going out. (I don't know how I would manage if she was bottle fed, I would be taking the formula tin with me everywhere just in case I think.)

Sam loves Belle just a little too much sometimes, but it is so cute when he cuddles and kisses her. He puts the blanket over her and pats her. But he also whacks her in the head and pokes her eye. not being mean, just calling it an eye and poking it...

last night they had a bath together and he cried and howled "Belle, Belle" when she got taken out before him.

going to the shops with DD1 tomorrow, woohoo free time. I feel a bit funny though, this is the first baby that I have had that has taken a bottle, so I have never left a bubba before.

AnD05
02-11-2007, 18:54
:wave: ladies

Just a quick one today, Im a bit tired and emotional. Thanks to all the ladies with hints about that 'witching hour'. I am breastfeeding so the formula tips won't help but thanks for the heads up anyway!

Had a restless night with DS. We went to the osteopath and came out feeling quite positive, he said the vomiting should stop as things were 'a bit out of whack' but he thought he 'fixed' it all. DS was very calm and relaxed after the appt, he slept and ate like an angel until.... his midnight feed when he vomited majorly! Then every feed until this afternoons he has done the same. I rang the osteo and he said to see how things went after a full 24hrs and was positive things would settle down...:detective: Hopefully he is right!!

Secondly, my mum left today to head back over east :crying: . It totally sucks having her live so far away, I was trying not to be too upset as I knew it would upset her even more! Anyway, I am lucky I got to see her for a little while.

Sorry this is such a pity post! But getting it out seems to help. Now I can focus on all the good things!!

Hope everyone is well, any exciting plans for the weekend? None here, just relaxing. DH has to work so it will just be me and my little man!

Take care

A

Pebbles
02-11-2007, 21:13
Hi Girls

Well it has been awhile since I have posted. I just started to get Tyson into a routine and get up to date with my housework and then Tyson decided to get constipated. I know breastfed babies can go 10 days without doing a poo but he was so unsettled and upset the other day that I took him to docs and they said he is constipated and needs coloxol drops. So I used the coloxol and it hasnt done anything. I have tried just about everything else I can think of and nothing has worked. He hasnt done a poo since last Sat and the poor little guy is really suffering. Its awful when he looks at me with those gorgeous eyes as if to say "come on, your the one that fixes stuff!" and I cant do anything for him. I have spent ALL day today just holding him coz the minute I put him down he cries. I am soooo exhausted.
Anyways I just thought I would pop on here while DH looks after Tyson so I could update you girls.
Sorry no time for personals. I havent even had time to jump on and read how you are all going :( . I hope you are all doing well.

robinson
02-11-2007, 21:42
Hi Girls

Well it has been awhile since I have posted. I just started to get Tyson into a routine and get up to date with my housework and then Tyson decided to get constipated. I know breastfed babies can go 10 days without doing a poo but he was so unsettled and upset the other day that I took him to docs and they said he is constipated and needs coloxol drops. So I used the coloxol and it hasnt done anything. I have tried just about everything else I can think of and nothing has worked. He hasnt done a poo since last Sat and the poor little guy is really suffering. Its awful when he looks at me with those gorgeous eyes as if to say "come on, your the one that fixes stuff!" and I cant do anything for him. I have spent ALL day today just holding him coz the minute I put him down he cries. I am soooo exhausted.
Anyways I just thought I would pop on here while DH looks after Tyson so I could update you girls.
Sorry no time for personals. I havent even had time to jump on and read how you are all going :( . I hope you are all doing well.

Just a quick post to respond to this..

Coloxyl drops didnt work for DD1 either.. they are ****... unfortunately they didnt help get the craps..LOL..

But try massaging his belly clockwise three times then anti clockwise once and then rub his back and then try doing it to his back and then his tummy again... apparently this gets the bowels moving... I have never tried it but a lady in mothers group suggested it the other day.. let us know how you go..

SJE
03-11-2007, 09:06
PPl are obviously very busy being supermums.

Hope you are all getting a bit more sleep!

A bit of brown sugar in some cooled boiled water seems to do the trick with constipation.

I'm going to have to come back later and do some personals. I have to go and pump and feed - it takes two hours. :eek:

carla25
03-11-2007, 21:47
Hi everyone :wave: - I'm new to this site. My name's Carla, i'm 25yrs old and have been married for 3.5 yrs. We've just welcome our 1st baby- Kyan Nicholas - into the world on Oct 13th 2007. He's been such a little gem so far. We've been very lucky, he feeds every 3hrs during the day and every 4-5 hrs during the night. He's a great little sleeper so we're not too sleep deprived...yet! He's been very placid (except when he went through his 2 wk growth spurt!) and we've been having so much fun getting to know him. Congrats on all the other October mummies :yelclap:

AnD05
03-11-2007, 22:15
:wave: Welcome Carla! Congratulations on the birth of your little man Kyan (what a gorgeous name!). Glad to hear everything is going so well for you. It's amazing isnt it, everytime I look at my little boy I still can't believe he's mine and I get to keep him! I look forward to getting to know you and sharing this wonderful experience with you!

SeeJayElle - Wow, 2hrs, well done for keeping up with it all!

Pebbles - Sorry to hear Tyson is constipated, the poor little thing. I totally know what you mean when they look at you with so much pain in their eyes, it breaks my heart when I can't take it away. I hope you find something that works for him soon :fingerscrossed: .

Well even with lack of sleep we managed to have a nice day today. Had 2 g/f's pop round for a quick cuppa, took DH lunch and popped into town. Can't wait till DS's body clock figures out night and day, it sucks that he sleeps so well during the day and is wide awake at 2am
:rolleyes: ! Oh well, the joys!

Hope everyone is well,

A

zenifa
04-11-2007, 08:13
Welcome Carla and congratulations on the birth of Kyan!! So happy to hear that things are going so well with him so far!!

I've been keeping up with this thread, but often don't have time to post. Things are going well with us, Ximena is still pretty good with her feeds and sleeps, but still has a grizzly unsettled period at lunchtime and then arsenic hour around dinner time. It doesn't last long and she is settled easily once she is held (basically she wants cuddles all the time!!). She is becoming much more alert and smiles too!

I expressed for the 1st time last night, as she only fed from one side (which she has started to do more of, rather than have both sides), so when I woke up at 2.30am, my left boob was hard, engorged and sore, so I expressed before offering it to her (she attached better and stayed on the whole time). She emptied it but then didn't want any of the right one, so I expressed from that side for relief and felt much better this morning at 7am when she awoke for her next feed!! She is thriving and growing lots, hope to get her weighed this week.

Not sure if people noticed, but I've put a link to our facebook page in the Oct babies photo thread!! We've had so many requests for more photos, so we are now trying to get more organised and load up more.

We're off today to Maleny for a friends' blessingway which should be a great experience!!

Hope you are all doing well and having a great weekend. Will try to more personals during the week. Bye for now!

ziggie
04-11-2007, 09:20
Hi ladies :wave:

My computer went beserk on Monday, so have had no Bubhub time :crying: ... All fixed now.

We're going well. I survived Damien going back to work, which was good. I was so freaked out about how I would cope, but I'm surprising myself! The only stressful parts have been when I had Mitch in the bath and Linc woke up and started screaming, (I ended up feeding Linc sitting on the bathroom floor, and Mitch had a very long bath) and when damien's been caught up at work and hasn't been able to help me with the dinner/bath/bed routine with Mitch.

Linc's still pretty unsettled, although he slept in his bassinet last night! Yay! He even went for 4 hours between feeds... Wow! And he spends most of the day in the Hugabub. I found this on another website, which makes me feel good about how I'm holding him all the time -



Babywearing helps satisfy the baby’s need for closeness, touch and affection.
Holding helps regulate their temperature and heart rate.
Babywearing promotes and strengthens parent’s emotional bond with their baby.
The movement that naturally results from carrying your baby stimulates their neurological development.
Babies cry less when worn or held.
Baby feels more secure. Babywearing facilitates easy outings and travel.


Whatever gets you through, huh?!?

Anyway, have a good day ladies... speak soon xx

michblb
04-11-2007, 17:10
Hi all:wave:

Sorry just a quick post from me too and a few personals...

Welcome Carla and congratulations.

Tammy, sorry to hear about the consipation, hope it gets sorted soon. There is nothing worse than feeling helpless because you can't do anything for them. Lots of :hugs: for you.

Zenifa, sounds like byou've got the b/f worked out and it's good that Ximena is blossoming. Hope you enjoyed the blessingway.

And, glad you had a nice day and I know what you mean..Charlotte is the same some days, like today sleeping like an angel but I bet tonight she'll be a devil (knock on wood!).

Ziggie, sounds like you are coping really well with them both and I agree - what ever gets you through. Charlotte is a cuddly baby too and sometimes just cries to be picked up (I think).

Well things are going swimmingly here since we got onto Infacol, Charlotte is back to herself and the wind has pretty much gone, we're very relieved and I got 8 hours sleep straight (2 nights in a row). No unfortunately she didn't sleep through but DH did the night feeds this weekend.:thumbsup: My turn tonight though :gloomy: so back to the grind.

Went to a friend's babyshower yesterday, she is due on 14 Nov so not long. Charlotte was a jem in the car, slept the whole way there and back, as well as behaving herself at the party. Just been pottering around the house today.

Hope everyone had a lovely weekend.

kitty1kat
05-11-2007, 03:12
hi all - thanks to whoever posted the link to this thread in the due in oct thread - I didn't know it existed!

All going well here with me and our little man. Our routine is going pretty well, and he is sleeping through from the 10pm feed to 5 or 6am most nights.

my biggest issue is not having enough milk, especially at night. I am expressing after every feed to get my supply up, (and getting up in middle of night sometimes to express!) and i get a lot in the morning which allows me to top him up after his 2pm and 5pm feed, but by his 6.30pm feed he can feed for 60 mins, then drink an expressed bottle of about 80ml and still be hungry (which suggests he is not getting enough from the boob at that time, because it only takes him 15m either side in the morning) and i don't have anything expressed left to give him. I am starting to consider topping him up with formula at this feed - i just can't bear to know he is hungry. Anyone else having supply issues?

TeamAwesome
05-11-2007, 04:39
Hi Ladies,
bit of a pity post from me, Aden's just left to go to the airport. I'm ok about that just not ok that he's uncontactable for the first week or so (we ran out of time to get him a Next G mobile) so am going to struggle more so with the thought of not being able to talk to him as that's how I normally get through when he's away. ok feeling a bit better after writing that.

Angelina has been perfect though, she's feeding and sleeping well. she has a couple of periods a day when she's wide awake and her feeds and sleeps are a little off due to our neighbours doing some noisy extrior reno's outside her room yesterday morning which threw out her sleep and then subsequently her feeds so she slept for 6hrs this afternoon and then 3hourly after that but it's all good. I've been getting a decent amount of sleep in each night so am hoping that continues.
the poor little darling has really sensitive skin though. she had a bit of a mucky eyelid and so my GP suggested I bathe it with water for a day then try a little bit of warm salty water and I basically burned the skin around her eye poor little thing. I've been squirting her eye with breast milk ever since which is making the burned bit better but now makes her eye look really crusty.

Now I've had a chance here's a couple of pics of us with bub at the hospital, haven't taken any really since then cos of her eye.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r123/ellemfamily/CIMG2120.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r123/ellemfamily/CIMG2115.jpg


Mich- I just remembered you asked about my birth story I have a link in my signature just click on my accidental homebirth next to Angelina's name and it will take you to my story.

Kate- maybe call the ABA or talk to your CHN for advice.

well I can hear Angie calling me for a feed.

I hope to be able to do more personals soon.
Natalie

robinson
05-11-2007, 09:53
hi all - thanks to whoever posted the link to this thread in the due in oct thread - I didn't know it existed!


Your welcome... I had trouble finding it for some reason so thought I'd put it in there just in case others didnt know or had trouble finding it..

With regards to your feeding/supply issues, I'd call the ABA or a L/C at your hospital.. they should definately be able to help you..

antlmummy - Gorgeous Pics! Can you buy a Next G phone while Aden is away, like tomorrow and express post it to him? Hope you have some help while he is away.. it must be hard for you..



The only stressful parts have been when I had Mitch in the bath and Linc woke up and started screaming, (I ended up feeding Linc sitting on the bathroom floor, and Mitch had a very long bath) .
Now thats an experience... but a funny story to tell... I"m sure it wont be the last time either..

carla25 - Welcome to BH and the OCtober mummies.. COngrats on your little boy!


Not sure if people noticed, but I've put a link to our facebook page in the Oct babies photo thread!!

Tried to access it but didnt have any luck?

Update on us...
Well Chloee is now 1month and 3days old (or something like that) she is doing well, hopefully trying to get into a bit of a routine from today as we've had visitors non stop since she was born and it was so hard to try and get into one..
Last week she was good and didnt mind being in her bassinette or rocker but now she just wants to be held all the time.. so yesterday i went and bought a vibrating rocker.. so far its been doing the trick..its quite hard to deal with a toddler, hold a newborn and cook dinner.. if you have that mastered let me know..

We went to the Casino for dinner on Saturday night with BIL and his new wife and it was a good night (we took the girls) and thankfully i took change of clothes for DD2 as she had a massive explosion in her nappy and it went everywhere.. that was fun!
Were planning a family trip via car to NSW over Xmas time.. getting scared about travelling such a long distance with two kids under two!!

zenifa
05-11-2007, 10:46
Hi everyone!!

Sarah - loved your quote about babywearing, I agree with it 100% :thumbsup: esp as I have a bubs who loves to be held and cuddled constantly!! Your bath story was quite amusing.
I'm lucky that DH showers DD1 for me and usually he also baths DD2, but we often do it together in the evening - yes it gets hectic with meals for us, the kids, bath and bedtime, I'm not looking forward to doing it on my own for a week when DH goes up to Townsville for work in early Dec - thinking of you Nat

Mich - Hope you enjoyed your friends' baby shower and that you got some good sleep last night and Charlotte fed well!!

Nat - those photos of your family are gorgeous!! Hope all is going well with you and the kids while Aden is away, when is he back? Do you have anyone that can help if you need it? Hope Angelina's eye is better soon!!

KittyKat - I agree with the others, contact ABA or a LC for info/advice on increasing your milk supply. Make sure you are eating a healthy diety, drinking plenty of water and getting as much rest as possible. You are right to be expressing as that should increase supply. Good luck with it, sounds like you a doing a fab job!!

Robinson - sorry will try to fix that link in the photo thread. I am so relating to your experiences - yes I also find it very hard to manage a toddler, newborn and get dinner cooked, for me using a slow cooker is helping as I can get stuff prepared earlier in the day and its done by evening (good also if you are going to be out during the day) Often those meals last for 2 nights which helps, plus I get DH to help out on weekends and we may have takeaway once/week. If I'm not using the slow cooker, I try to do as much meal prep as I can when DD1 is having her nap with DD2 in the sling.
Your explosive poo story, gave me a giggle, mainly because on Sat and also this morning, DD2 has done an explosive poo that leaked through her nappy and clothes and onto my shorts!!:eek: I am just lucky it happened at home!!

Had a nice quiet day on Sat and had a lovely day out yesterday. Had a yummy picnic lunch at Lake Baroon and then went to my friends' blessingway. The blokes took the older kids for a bushwalk near the local waterfall while the ladies and little bubbas held a women's circle, where we each went around and threaded a bead on a necklace (for my friend to wear in labour) whilst sharing some +ve thoughts and motherhood wisdom with our friend, it was very sweet, great bonding experience and we also had a drawn picture (of a pregnant woman sitting lotus position) and people could write positive affirmations and messages of love for my friend for her to read before she births the baby. There was lots of food, drink and stories shared, a lovely experience.

Went to the shops and got DD2 weighed, she is just under 5kg and doing well, except we just can't shake this oral thrush (darn this heat, which it thrives in!!).
Anyway DD1 is demanding some mummy time and DD2 is hungry, so my BH time is over for now!! bye!!

Shakey
05-11-2007, 13:08
Afternnon everyone, havn't been in here for a while, good to read everyone is doing well

zenifa good idea with the slow cooker, i've got one, but i'm finding it too hot at the mo to cook hot meals, we've been living on quick meals or take aways, good to see the weight gain is going good, your little one would look huge compared to Alexis, she's about 3.5kg's at the mo and 6wks old

robinson lol @ the explosion, we havn't had one of them yet, but we have leaked out of our nappy a couple of times, oh and cool ya planning a trip over xmas, hope kids will be good with all that traveling,

antlmummy hope this first week goes really fast for you, I remember when DH went to Afghanistan when DS was a few weeks old, it was horrible when he couldn't contact me for the first week or so, at least it won't be long till he'll be back home, oh and I love the pics, you've got a gorgeous family

kitty1kat try not to worry about your milk supply, if your concerned ring the ABA, its totally normal to not have much milk later at night, and totally normal to have a unsettled baby between the hours of 5 and 11pm, the trick to getting your supple up is to get your little one to feed at much as possible, as time consuming as it is its the best way, cause the more they take out the more you'll make, expressing does the same, so when you give bubs a bottle, make sure you express, cause your filling bubs up with xtra milk , and what you want is for you to have that extra milk, instead of having to formula top up all the time if that makes sence

michblb wow would love to have 8hrs straight, although if that happened my (o)(o)'s would blow up like a baloon after about 6hrs lol, glad the wind problem is settling down

Ziggie Oh no - now bub hub till now :eek: I would've gone insane lol, glad its up and running now, you did well with the bath episode, I can't wait for my sling to arrive so then i'm prepared for thoes moments lol

welcome Carla, congrats on the birth of ya wee man

well same old same old happening here, Alexis has been a bit unsettled the last couple of days and wanting to feed all the time, i'm thinking she's going through a growth sprit (which she needs cause she's still so little) i'm taking her to get weighed on thurs so :fingerscrossed: she's put on good weight this week, i'm demand feeding at the mo, and it seams to be going alright,

zenifa
05-11-2007, 15:07
Ah Jo!! Thanks for the reminder about the 6 week growth spurt, X should be coming up to that any time now and it got me thinking .....kittykat, often when bubs has the growth spurt (& yr bub is around 6 weeks) its common for them to basically suck you dry ie they take all the milk and no matter what you do, you may not have enough, so if this passes soon, it could be due to a growth spurt, if not then definately see ABA or LC.
Gotta go, DD1 is watching playschool and MIL and my niece are due for a visit any minute. Will try to be back tomorrow!!:wave:

AnD05
05-11-2007, 18:10
:wave:

Nice day today. Actually got 5 hrs straight sleep last night which was lovely! DH sent me straight to bed after DS's 830pm feed as I was in tears and exhausted! DS has been foofing about with his feeding lately pulling on and off, screaming instead of attaching and not attaching properly. I was feeling so crappy as it had been going so well till now! Don't know what changed but anyway, things good today. He is still vomiting and has wind pain (have started Infacol too but not sure if it is helping yet). Spoke to a g/f who suggested feeding for a few mins then burping, feeding for another few mins then burping etc until the feed is finished. Have tried this today and seems to help a little, it is also supposed to help eliminate that unsettled windy painful period in the evenings. I may as well give it a go as I've tried everything else!

Note to self - 6wk growth spurt due in 3 wks....

Jo- Glad little Alexis is going well, the demand feeding is quite tiring isnt it but well worth the effort! Interesting to see her weight gain on Thurs, Im taking DS on Wed and can't wait to see what he's put on!

Zenifa - Glad your friends blessingway went so well, sounded lovely, very nice idea. Also glad DD2 is healthily putting on weight! Bugger about the oral thrush, :fingerscrossed: it clears up soon!

Robinson - Had to have a giggle about the explosion sorry! Yeah it's hard trying to sort out any routine with visitors around, hope things settle down for you. On the dinner front...nope havent figured it out yet either, Im just lucky DH is usually home in time for me to either palm DS off (as he usually needs settling around then) or for him to defrost a prepared meal or today I made dinner at 1030am!! DS had a nap and I had some energy so I took the opportunity to cook (very sad I know!!).

Nat - :hugs: to you, I would freak out too if I couldn't speak to DH for a week and that's only with one baby not 3 kids :eek: . I hope it's not too stressful for you. Gorgeous photos by the way!! Yes I agree with whoever said you have a lovely looking family!!

Mich - Glad the infacol helps with Charlotte, I've started DS on it too but not so sure it's helping yet! Glad you had a lovely time at the baby shower and DD was an :angel: , it's so nice when your out with people and they behave!!

Kittykat - GL getting your breast milk issue sorted, I still find it hard to know when they are empty and when to swap and everything else that goes with it but luckily I seem to have enough and whatever Im doing seems to be working!

Ziggie - So glad things went better than you thought when DH went back to work. It's always nice when that happens!! Hope things are still going well and it is lovely to hear the babywearing is going well - you def need to do whatever gets you through!!

Hope everyone else is going well!

A

SJE
05-11-2007, 19:54
HI Guys

It appears we are missing some Oct mummies around here.
Catalyst comes to mind - where are you:wave:

AnD05 - That sounds really distressing and flustrating. Feeds do not sound like an enjoyable time. It does sound like a wind/pain issue. Have you tried the baby wearing or a swing?

Robinson - If you find any solutions to your toddler, dinner, newborn issue let me know. DD1 just loves cracking tanties which seem to coincide with DD2's windy times. Tea is frozen meals made when I was preg and had more time.

Zenifa - A blessingway - sound like a nice alternative to a baby shower. Hope that nasty thrush goes away soon:fingerscrossed: . It must make it all worth it to get those smiles. I cant wait for them.

Antlmummy - Lovely pictures. One lovely family you have there:thumbsup:

Kittykat1 - Do you massage each breast whilst expressing and then manually (hand) express out every last drop? With dd1 I totally depended on the pump which would only give 80ml. By doing the above, there is consistently 115-130mls at every pump session.

Today was DH first day back at work. He wont be home til late so it's just me and the kids for a while. Got my walk in and a few errands done which was nice. By the time everyone is fed, emptied and ready to go out its 2pm. Will we ever be able to make a morning apt again?
Apparently is does get easier as time goes by. It would be great to get some bigger gaps at night and get this feeding thing sorted out. It is so tempting just to give up all this BF, expressing etc and just put her on formula. I'm just not sure how I would cope emotionally with either decision. Cant think when I'm tired. Today was very average for BF attempts, due to the windy episodes. Hope tomorrow is better.

Duty calls - Hope to get on here again sometime before Christmas!:laughing:

erinp
05-11-2007, 20:22
Hi girls,

Have posted this in a couple of other threads so sorry for the cross-posting but I figured ppl may not check other threads now that there is only one (Bigglet - think that's it) October mummy left....

Got a message from KristyK tonight to let me know her little girl has arrived:
Ella Cherie born at 5:06pm. Weighs 8 pound 11. Doing well. I'm so proud!

:smiliedance: Congratualtions to the new mum, dad and big brother!!:smiliedance:

Sorry for no personals, the milk bar has to open so need to relieve DH.....all still going well here, just busy!!

zenifa
06-11-2007, 07:55
Nice day today. Actually got 5 hrs straight sleep last night which was lovely! DH sent me straight to bed after DS's 830pm feed as I was in tears and exhausted! DS has been foofing about with his feeding lately pulling on and off, screaming instead of attaching and not attaching properly. I was feeling so crappy as it had been going so well till now! Don't know what changed but anyway, things good today. He is still vomiting and has wind pain (have started Infacol too but not sure if it is helping yet). Spoke to a g/f who suggested feeding for a few mins then burping, feeding for another few mins then burping etc until the feed is finished. Have tried this today and seems to help a little, it is also supposed to help eliminate that unsettled windy painful period in the evenings. I may as well give it a go as I've tried everything else!

Note to self - 6wk growth spurt due in 3 wks....

Zenifa - Glad your friends blessingway went so well, sounded lovely, very nice idea. Also glad DD2 is healthily putting on weight! Bugger about the oral thrush, it clears up soon!

Hope everyone else is going well!

A


HI Guys

It appears we are missing some Oct mummies around here.
Catalyst comes to mind - where are you

Zenifa - A blessingway - sound like a nice alternative to a baby shower. Hope that nasty thrush goes away soon . It must make it all worth it to get those smiles. I cant wait for them.



Today was DH first day back at work. He wont be home til late so it's just me and the kids for a while. Got my walk in and a few errands done which was nice. By the time everyone is fed, emptied and ready to go out its 2pm. Will we ever be able to make a morning apt again?
Apparently is does get easier as time goes by. It would be great to get some bigger gaps at night and get this feeding thing sorted out. It is so tempting just to give up all this BF, expressing etc and just put her on formula. I'm just not sure how I would cope emotionally with either decision. Cant think when I'm tired. Today was very average for BF attempts, due to the windy episodes. Hope tomorrow is better.

Duty calls - Hope to get on here again sometime before Christmas!

In relation to wind and breastfeed babies, I had a thought. As well as the conventional methods of burping, massage etc to get rid of wind, I've heard infacol and Brauer's homeopathics are supposed to work (I haven't used infacol or brauer's myself). My LC told me and a few of my mummy friends that often the foremilk flows rather fast once letdown happens and this can cause a lot of wind/air bubbles, so she has recommended that if you can to express for a few minutes (up to 5) before the feed and that may help, as the flow of milk slows down and they may get less windy - thought that might be a worth a try.

So Anna let me know if you try this and it works.

See Jay Elle - yes I was wondering what happened to Jude? Haven't heard much from her since she had Toran. Cassie must be busy too. Re: smiles, they are probably due to wind but they are beautiful smiles all the same!! Sounds like you did really well yesterday with DH's first day back at work. Yes its hard to get out of the house with 2 kids, it requires a huge effort and lots of patiences, I'm counting on it getting easier as they get older. I find even with a few simple tasks, the whole day is taken up.
I found it took me 3 hours to unload the car groceries & put them away(cold/frozen stuff excepted), hang out two loads of washing, do the dishes and do lunch for DD1 and I (sandwiches) - it used to take me an hour!! By the time everyone was sorted out it was 2pm!! I only had half an hour to rest (ie eat my lunch), as DD1 got up from her nap at 2.30pm.

Erin - great news about Kristy, hopefully in time she will find her way to this thread!! Hoep everything is going well with you and Hannah.

We had fun yesterday as my 9yo niece came to visit to meet Miss X, with my MIL, so DD1 had a ball playing with her and got lots of nice gifts. It was chaos when Dh arrived home, but luckily they left so we could do the dinner & bedtime routine. Ah, its so nice when both girls are in bed and we can finally relax at 7pm - its a solid 12hr day for me :sleeping: no wonder I crash at 9.30pm.

Well today we are off to playgroup, my first week doing it solo with 2 girls, I'm just glad its a :rain: day here as its a bit cooler, esp as I'm wearing DD2 in my hugabub type sling.

Was in Myer last week and they had some cute Baby's 1st Xmas presents, has anyone got anything for their bubs? Also what are you wanting for yourself for Xmas.......I've been so caught up in the kids, I haven't really had time to think of what I want/need (aside from a housekeeper, personal trainer and nanny :rolleyes: )? I've got DH and his family asking for suggestions. Any ideas welcome!!

Hope everyone has a good day and good luck to those mummies trying to manage windy babies, or bubs not feeding properly plus being sleep deprived :yelclap: you are doing a great job!!

TeamAwesome
06-11-2007, 08:50
Hi girls,
thanks for the comments about my family.

Well turns out Aden's supervisor is an idiot cos he can get reception in town where they're staying (THANK GOD!!) just not out on the work site. I'm so glad cos it's what makes him going away easier on me, I can debrief with him at the end of the day and he doesn't feel so out of the loop with what's going on with the kids.

Poor Angelina has come down with her first cold so she's been waking every 2hrs during the night not being able to breathe, so I'm having to put saline in her nose and suction it out before she'll have a short feed then go back to sleep. Libby has a cold too and sounds like she has a horrible nasty cough but has unfortunately inherited her Daddy's adnoid/tonsil problem where she gets a slight runny nose and irritates them and swells them up. so it'll look like she has tonsilitis without it being tonsilitis IYKWIM? At least Libby's sleeping because I can do something about her cold.

I wen ton my first trip out yesterday to Spotlight and that was well interesting. bub decided she was hungry just after we arrived so I gave her a bit of a top up but I had the other two in the tandem pram which is not easy to push one handed and the store is not set out in a pram or even trolley friendly manner. So by the time I got the counter to pay Angie was hungry then we had to wait for ages but I can't attach her easily when she's upset so wanted to wait until we got into the car, then I had to put Ang in the car so I could help the other two out of the pram, then I couldn't get the pram to fold up because I was flustered. Then I discovered Aden had left some rope and a few other things at the very back of the boot which meant it wasn't going in so more stuffing around while Angie is screaming blue murder in the car and the kids are climbing all over the car as they do. then decided we're only 10mins from home and I'd rather let the kids out to play while I feed so just drove home while Angie made sure I knew she was hungry (and I of course felt terrible but the kids were really restless and woul have whinged and whined the entire time I fed her) Of course they had two different labels on the couch covers I wanted and only read one which lookd like it would be the right size but when I got home it's not so I have to repeat the whole ordeal to go get the bigger size!

KristyK Congrats on Ella Cherie! Can; wait to read your story and see pics

Jo - I hope Alexis is just having a growth spurt and settles down again soon for you (and don't forget about the one at 12 weeks too!)

Zenifa- the blessing way sounded lovely! I'm sure it'll be something she'll cherish!
Aden comes home the first time either 14th/21st Nov for 4days then goes back for 16days then home for another 4days then will go back until the 20th/21st Dec. much nicer going away times then his old 8weeks away 4days home. Oh and I do have help if I need/want it.

SeeJayElle- on dinner, depending on what I'm making I'll make it around lunch time, stick it in the fridge and then just reheat it for dinner.

WW3 is breaking out over a toy so I better go make sure it stays fairly civil before the weapons are brought out (biting seems to be the fav atm)

TeamAwesome
06-11-2007, 10:19
oh Cassie! Libby had reflux, just not a severe as Afrika, so I know what it's like with all the washing and trying to keep on top of everything let alone getting any time to do anything else really other then feed them, change them and clean up the spew and anything it lands on. so feel free to pity post away, it's all part and parcel with babies we all have our good and bad days. Just make sure you celebrate the good things (like Afrika nearly being into 0000) and as you'd know they'll help you get through the bad ones.

mum_inlove
06-11-2007, 11:19
Hi everyone..:wave:

I haven't posted for ages, still 'adjusting' to life with 2 children..:laughing: Surprisingly, it hasn't been as hard as I thought. Ds is getting better and better with dd, he comes running whenever he hears her cry, one time he even climbed up on the couch to give her the dummy, it was so cute..

My mom's gone home to brissy :crying: She was such a great help. The 2 weeks she was here, I literally didn't have to do anything. I feel bad sometimes as I didn't help her too much.

Dh is on holiday and I think he's loving being a father of two. Last night he even said 'let's have 4 kids', I was like..mm I don't think so..But hey, never say never:rolleyes:

Dd is good, she's well past her birth weight :smiliedance: and actually looks good in her dresses. She sleeps well at night, but we have this perios at 7pm every night, where she won't go to sleep, at all! And yeah, she's a light sleeper, so that doesn't help lol.

I have to start taking heaps more pics of her and ds, at the moment, everything still seems a bit overwhelming I forgot..Lol, that's just a lame excuse.

Anyway, sorry for no personal, I'm still trying to get to know all of you:o

AnD05
06-11-2007, 12:01
:wave: Just a quick post as DS is about to wake up for a feed....

Cass - :hugs: to you hun! Please pity post whenever you need too (I do!) it really does help to get it out. It must be so hard with Afrika screaming all day, Finlay decided to have a whopper unsettled couple of hours last night from 7ish till 11ish, and that was bad enough! He just screamed and screamed - and same thing as you we couldn't find anything or any position which would settle him. I eventually managed to feed him but he still didnt settle for another hour! I really hope she starts eating soon too, that must be a worry. Hope things get better for you soon.

Zenifa - Thanks for the tips. I actually spoke to my m/w last night and she has given me the number of a homeopath to call so will give that a go. Then I will try the expressing too. I will let you know how it goes. Im like Cassie in that I don't mind the vomiting so much (except when he's in a nice outfit and before we leave the door I have to get him out of it :cool: ) it's the painful windy screaming and unsettledness that's stressing me out. Oh well we will keep trying things....

Well better run, have to feed DS then pop up to my old work (school) and get the principal to sign some paperwork for me. Hopefully DS will behave like an :angel: for everyone that will want to see him!!

Hope everyone well,

Yeah Catalyst must be busy.....hhmmm hope everything ok.

Oh, said it in the old thread but here it is again
:babydust2: Congratulations KristyK and welcome to the world Ella Cherie!!:babydust2:

A

TeamAwesome
06-11-2007, 12:19
Cassie-yeah it's hard when you don't know what to do for them. I don't think we had a really good day with Libby until she was almost 4mo and her reflux lasted until she was 13/14mo (well spewing just minus the pain) would have my MIL come over when Libby was little and ask what I'd been doing all day:rolleyes: ... apparently lookign after her grandchildren wasn't enough let alone the fact Libby couldn't be put down .

I hope Afrika can cope with the new formula you're going to try her with and she takes to it like Logan did for you. I was half expecting Angie to have reflux so know what you mean about knowing what you're in for making it worse. shame Afrika doesn't like the swing/bouncer... maybe once she's a bit bigger she might?:fingerscrossed:


mum_inlove- it does take a bit to get to know everyone but don't be shy we don't bite. I personally think going from 1-2 is harder then 2-3 (mind you it's only early days so far) my DH was dead set against having anymore after our 2nd but when she was 10mo he did a complete 180 on that one. give yourself time to decide cos you generally think no way in the early days. (I however seem to be in minority and say "yes I still want more" just days after birthing lol)

Shakey
06-11-2007, 14:29
Afternoon everyone

Cassie, sorry to hear your having a rough time, :fingerscrossed: she settles down for you soon, have you spoken to the hosp or doc about her feeding? but yay on her just about being in 0000 clothes, Alexis can wear a couple of her 0000 clothes now too, but mostly she's still in her 00000 2 peices and body suits

AnD05 anothing thing you can to to slow down the flow, is feed laying back like on a recliner, when I was feeding DS thats what I had to do, cause I would flow way to fast for him lol, i'm not having that much prob with DD cause my supply has established enough now that it doesn't do that anymore

antlmummy yay that your Dh is contactable again, bet thats a bit of a relief for ya

zenifa what about the 2wks, 3wk, 4wk, 5wk, 6wk, 7wk, 8wk growth spirts lol, I remember with DS he didn't have the 6wk spirt or the 8 or 12wk one, it was more, the 2, 4 and10wk spirts lol


well same old same old here, Alexis is still a little unsettled, i'm still waiting on my sling to arrive, hopefully it doesn in the next couple of days :fingerscrossed: will be good when I get it, cause the witching hour here is right on tea time lol,

Grizabella
06-11-2007, 15:14
Hey guys - wrote a long post updating you all - but piece of sh!t computer froze and I lost it (same thing happened when I tried to write my birth story).

Been back in hospt the last week (since Thurs night) got back yesterday. Toran got a virus, and infected thumb. Then I got mastitis. Brion also got gastro, so Stu had to stay home with him, didn't see him much in between that and him working.

Both getting better - but am flogged so don't have energy to write it all again.

Be back on later when I have more energy.

Shakey
06-11-2007, 15:17
Hope they find a reason for you ay, sucks unknowing, we've got a paed appt in a couple of weeks to check on Alexis, yeah they must be around the same size now, Alexis weighed in last thurs at 3400grams, 7lb 8oz, still tiny but heaps bigger than her birth weight

I got a sling of ebay, can't remember the name of it right now, but its one that folds up nicely to put in my nappy back or even my purse, I really needed it today, had to go to the mall and didn't have my pram with me in the car, so had to carry Alexis and the groceries, my arm was so sore lol

Shakey
06-11-2007, 15:18
hope the wee man and Brion gets better fast Jude, sucks when they are sick,

TeamAwesome
06-11-2007, 16:03
Jude- glad to see you're still around, I hope you're all better soon. I can imagine how wasted you are feeling with all that happening in your house.



So.... who is TTC already? :detective:

:laughing: ok now I've picked myself up off the floor from laughing....

I'm not actually ready right now but we've already discussed the age gap and said we'll "discuss" having another baby when Angelina is about 1yo (I got pregnant with her when Libby was just over 12months) basically Aden wants us to be in our own house before the next baby comes along so that's the only reason that it's to be a discussion at this stage. however I have my ways with him;) so we'll probably start TTC around then.

better go get dinner organised we're having tuna mornay tonight (I love one pot dishes)

robinson
06-11-2007, 16:14
Hi Ladies...

Yay!! I backed the winner in the Melb Cup!! DH put $5 to win on it for me so I should get about $115..

Sorry no personals.. but I will say I am seeing the health nurse tomorrow (during mothersgroup) so I'm going to ask about expressing before a feed too.. as my milk flow seems to be extremely fast and DD2 seems to detach alot with the fore milk and is like guzzling it and then having wind and chucking up.. so that might be an idea.. see what she says..

Not much to report but I cant believe she is 5 weeks old today.. OMG... where did the time go..

zenifa
07-11-2007, 08:38
wow!! Its good to see so much posting on here, seems like most of us are finding a bit of BH time amongst all the newborn mothering duties!!


I am still here, thanks for noticing I was in hiding Zenifa

I am still reading all of the posts regularly, just haven't been posting myself. Things aren't going all that well here so haven't wanted to 'pity' post all the time.
Afrika isn't even feeding the absolute minumum she should be having... never alone the amount she should really be having. On top of that, treating her for oral thrush, also on medication for reflux... and she didn't pass her 5th hearing test yesterday, although the people were pretty positive that it is just a little blocked still and should correct itself, so have to go and do another test in a couple of months (which you have to keep them completely still and quiet for yeah right!). Anyway, Afrika pretty much screams about 8 hours during the day.... luckily she is fine at night though, although I think she is going through her spurt at the moment because she is only doing 3-4hr blocks as opposed to the 9hr block between feeds she started doing. It was lucky Simon came home when he did last swing because I was seriously ready to take her back to the hospital... trying to force feed a screaming baby is NOT fun, and it is impossible to do anything during the day when she doesnt like to be anywhere but her cot (not even held otherwise I would purchase a sling). Definately has made me reconsider wanting #3 mid-next year again (or at all :laughing: )

Sorry for the pity post... but that is pretty much all that is going on here at the moment... crying, crying and more crying (oh, and the constant washing because I have to change her sheets roughly 10 times a day and I keep running out of wraps!!!). On a good note she is almost ready to move into 0000 clothing, lol.

Hey Cassie, sorry to hear you are having a rough time with Afrika :hugs: to you!! Hope things improve and that the test results yield answers to help get the days more manageable, thank goodness the nights are okay for you. Sorry I don't have any suggestions, as my bubs don't have reflux, but my friends' bubs does and 2yrs on they are still having probs - it must be so hard for you both. Great to hear that she is in 0000 clothing!! Good luck with it.


Afternoon everyone

Cassie, sorry to hear your having a rough time, :fingerscrossed: she settles down for you soon, have you spoken to the hosp or doc about her feeding? but yay on her just about being in 0000 clothes, Alexis can wear a couple of her 0000 clothes now too, but mostly she's still in her 00000 2 peices and body suits

AnD05 anothing thing you can to to slow down the flow, is feed laying back like on a recliner, when I was feeding DS thats what I had to do, cause I would flow way to fast for him lol, i'm not having that much prob with DD cause my supply has established enough now that it doesn't do that anymore

antlmummy yay that your Dh is contactable again, bet thats a bit of a relief for ya

zenifa what about the 2wks, 3wk, 4wk, 5wk, 6wk, 7wk, 8wk growth spirts lol, I remember with DS he didn't have the 6wk spirt or the 8 or 12wk one, it was more, the 2, 4 and10wk spirts lol


well same old same old here, Alexis is still a little unsettled, i'm still waiting on my sling to arrive, hopefully it doesn in the next couple of days :fingerscrossed: will be good when I get it, cause the witching hour here is right on tea time lol,

Let us know what type of sling you get - I love my hugabub type of one, esp now as the last few days are cooler (got a bit hot wearing it last week) - had it on for 8 hrs yesterday (except when I was driving home from playgroup)!! DD2 didn't want to sleep/settle unless she was in it!!
Yes, I know what you mean about growth spurts, DD2 has been thriving so well, I hope I can keep up my supply to meet her demands!!


Hey guys - wrote a long post updating you all - but piece of sh!t computer froze and I lost it (same thing happened when I tried to write my birth story).

Been back in hospt the last week (since Thurs night) got back yesterday. Toran got a virus, and infected thumb. Then I got mastitis. Brion also got gastro, so Stu had to stay home with him, didn't see him much in between that and him working.

Both getting better - but am flogged so don't have energy to write it all again.

Be back on later when I have more energy.

Jude, welcome back!! Sorry to hear that you and the boys haven't been well, get better soon, rest up and update us when you can (& feel up to it, damn that computer!!)


Hi Ladies...

Yay!! I backed the winner in the Melb Cup!! DH put $5 to win on it for me so I should get about $115..

Sorry no personals.. but I will say I am seeing the health nurse tomorrow (during mothersgroup) so I'm going to ask about expressing before a feed too.. as my milk flow seems to be extremely fast and DD2 seems to detach alot with the fore milk and is like guzzling it and then having wind and chucking up.. so that might be an idea.. see what she says..

Not much to report but I cant believe she is 5 weeks old today.. OMG... where did the time go..

Congratulations on the Melbourne Cup win!! I totally missed the race myself, trying to get DD1 to have a nap and trying to prepare dinner with DD2 in the sling, I completely forgot about it!!

Going solo to playgroup went well yesterday, had DD2 in the sling and she slept right through it and DD1 was really well behaved which was a relief. It was a day when DD1 was being good for me, which really helped as DD2 wanted to be in the sling/carried all day - from 10am til 7pm (except when I drove home). So I was exhausted from carrying her, and trying to do stuff, not much rest as once she was settled DD1 woke up. I'm just glad that by 7pm they are both in bed asleep.

Today we are off to the library for storytime and lunch with my parents, just a quiet one today, hopefully.

Cassie - I just picked myself off the floor with your 'who is TTC already?' :laughing: you must be kidding?
Although DD2 is an :angel: we have decided to stop at 2 and DH is having the snip at the end of the month. I am the one more likely to get clucky, but I am very happy with my two girls!!

3BoysBlue
07-11-2007, 10:17
Hi Everyone sorry I haven't Posted for a while Have been Reading though

well heres and update
DD2 is going well hes Growing well he put on over 300gms last week :eek: which make Him just under 4kg now Hes now in Zantac for hes reflux and its seem to of helped But i thinks hes having a growth spurt or I dont have enough milk as hes alway hungry Lucky I have about 30+ 120ml bottles of frozen EBM as hes having 1-2 of them a day.
Ive made the cookies:chef: (very Yummy DS1 loves them too) and am expressing after just about every feed (only get about 20-40mls) but I seem to have less milk in the afternoon but over night theres heaps and hes still feeding 3-4 hourly overnight and 2-3hrly during the day except for the last few night hes had a feed around 1-2 ish and then a feed at round 6-7 as hes feel back asleep in bed with me:sleeping:

I just hope I can get my supply back up by the time The EBM runs out as I really want to continue feeding for along as poss (might have to hire an electric pump again as that helped)

where seeing a paed surgeon about DD2 belly button soon as its quite big but other than that hes actual paed doesn't want to see him until Feb (booked out until Jan)
We still have to see the Speech, Physio , OT and He has Hes Hearing test next week as hes High Risk But :fingerscrossed: every thing goes well

OMG thats really long sorry

Sorry to hear the mums who are having trouble with there bubs Hope things pick up soon:hugs:

And im glad everyone else bub and mummy's are doing well:D

Shakey
07-11-2007, 11:47
morning everyone

Zenifa its the jazsling that i'm getting, like cassie I got mine off ebay, i'm still waiting for it to arrive, I love the look of the hug a bubs but it would be too hot here over the summer for one, I can't wait for my sling to arrive

mummy21soon2b2 good to hear all is well your end, i'm sure our DS hearing test and stuff will come back fine

Cassie no ttc here, DH got the snip done 2 days before my waters broke, so even if I wanted to try again it wouldn't work lol

well its quiet here now, DD is having a bit of a unsettled morning, i'm feeling like i'm running out of milk, so I might make some cookies when I get the ingredients, I don't even have any peanuts to much on to help increase my milk supply, I might go to the supermarket tonight and stock up on some, cause it seams to work

we're just having a quiet day here today, its raining to can't really do much, i'm sure I saw DD actually smile before, she was grinning, it was defianatly different from her half windy smiles, so she must have been smiling :smiliedance: I wasn't expecting her to do that for another couple of weeks, being premmie and all,

hope everyone has a great day

TeamAwesome
07-11-2007, 14:58
Afternoon girls,

well we made it to play group in one piece and got there only 10mins after it started. Ty and Libby were both good and bub was very settled and even had a cuddle with another mum.

Also a few of the other mums rally around and do some dinners for a couple of weeks which will help out until I get a bit of a general household routine going with Aden being away. I wasn't expecting it at all but it's great to see the support of the group and I'm looking forward to helping out int he same way once Angie is older (next bub is due in a few weeks so won't be helping there, lol.)

mummy21soon2b2 - good luck with the hearing test. we have a higher risk with our kids too as my DH went deaf in his right ear as a toddler so I have my fingers crossed for you!

Jo - yay for the smiling! it's so lovely when they do it and you realise hey they're doing it for real isn't it?

well the girls are sleeping and it's a rainy day (started just after we left playgroup which was great timing!) so I'm going to go snuggle up with a fun family dvd with Ty for sme special mummy and Ty time (and also a chance for me to put my feet up and have a rest)

erinp
07-11-2007, 16:27
Hi girls,

Haven't really posted in here for a while, but things are going well with Hannah and I. Haven't really been on here as we've been out and about a lot which is good fun, but tiring. I'm trying to get a nap each afternoon/evening and that gets me through to the late night and morning feeds (usually one at 10/11pm and then again at 4/5am). She is, for the most part, a pretty settled & happy bub, which I am grateful for. Only problem is how much noise she makes through the night, and DH wants her to go to her own room and I don't. We're working on it though....

Had mother's group this morning which was great; I really enjoyed meeting the other mums and their babies - all so cute!!

Cassie I had to laugh with your TTC comment. I think it would be lovely to have them close, but at the same time want to enjoy Hannah while she's little as much as I can. Anyway we want to wait until I've finished my masters (prob 3 years) and we can move into a bigger place. Besides, it's not an option atm as DH hasn't been allowed anywhere near there, nor will he be for a while!! :laughing: I hope Afrika has been ok lately, sounds like you have your hands full there.

Nat you poor thing with your spotlight adventure....but sounds like you went well at playgroup! It's great the other mums are helping out like that. DH's boss's wife brought around a huge casserole for us the other night; will probably do 3 meals for the 2 of us!

An hope your little man is a bit more settled....

Jo that's interesting about the peanuts & milk supply....

Sorry can't remember any more, need to head off for my nap before DH gets home so we can have some time together!

sam's mum
07-11-2007, 16:40
TTC again - NO WAY!!! If DH had his way, I would already be knocked up again, but given that I have had a CS with DS and then another CS with DD2 where they went horizontal AND vertical, I am in no rush to be pregnant again. Don't fancy another hospital stay either.

Milk supply - when I was having trouble I started taking fenugreek but I also got a script for Motillium and took it as well, within a day I had milk galore. something to consider maybe.

baby settling - Belle will pretty much put herself to sleep if I get her down at the right time. If she puts herself to sleep, she sleeps happily by herself. If I have to cuddle or feed her to sleep I can't put her down, she just wakes up again, and she is too tired by them to put herself to sleep. have to be watchful for the tired signs. She only woke up once in the night last night :thumbsup: but it was for over two hours :thumbsdown: .

Bellybutton - both of my younger kids have got hernias behind their belly buttons. DS they just checked up on it at each visit and it fixed itself. DD2 is smaller than his was and they are just going to watch it as well.

Belle has started attaching properly now and so she is pretty much a fully boobie baby. I took an EBM bottle when I went out today though, didn't fancy trying to find somewhere to feed her when I was visiting work, and def didn't want to feed her in front of the people from work. She had a couple of shocking days when she first went fully boobie, but is fine now (as long as I get her to bed at the right times)

How many people are on Brisbane northside? We should organise to get the bubbas together.

Milliner
07-11-2007, 17:05
Hi girls! :wave:

TTC - well I would love to have another one, but I dont' want to go through the whole ttc and pregnancy bit I would just like to give birth :D. Doesn't happen that way I'm afraid. We might start trying next year, that would really stick it up my MIL.

Mira is doing really well, apart from the evening (witching hour) 8-12pm she doesn't like to settle for very long. She is a booby fiend, just like her brother was.

Can't believe that I didn't even get one bruise on my nipple this time, BF has been so much easier this time around. The entire birth was easier this time around, well it was for me.

I started a thread so that we could all put down our state and maybe meet up one day.

mum_inlove
07-11-2007, 17:05
Hi All :wave: How are all the beautiful mummas and their beautiful babies doing?

Well Olivia is 2 weeks and 2 days old today. It seems like she's been here forever, lol. She's still feeding and sleeping well. Well, most of the time. She has this unsettled period every night at 7pm where she just won't go to sleep. I'll be feeding her, then she'll be asleep but as soon as I put her down, she'll wake up and we have to start all over again. Last night I was a bit teary, so dh took over and he managed to put her to sleep just by stroked her forehead. :thumbsup:


Milk supply - when I was having trouble I started taking fenugreek but I also got a script for Motillium and took it as well, within a day I had milk galore. something to consider maybe.


Sam's mum, do I have to get prescription for any of that medicines? I'm a bit worried with the fact that Olivia's on my breast pretty much all the time, yet my breast only seem to be full every 3 hours. Wouldn't mind a bit of extra milk.:yes:

I took Lloyd and Olivia to the mothers' group today. Well, that was interesting to get ready. Lloyd wanted to jump back to the bath when I bathed Olivia, so when we told him he couldn't of course he cried. Then Olivia started to cry. I was feeling the pressure. Thankfully once we were in the car, Lloyd was happy and Olivia went to sleep. It was hard try to get 2 kids ready. Oh well, I'll get the hang of it soon, won't I?

I took Olivia to the gp to get her checked over the twitches or jerks she's been having. Midwife told me to get it check just to rule out seizures. So I'm waiting to hear from the gp to see if the peaditrician (sp?) could see her in a couple of days. Some ppl told me it's just newborn movement jerks, but in my heart I know it's different, whether it's something sinister or not, I just have the feeling it's different. But hopefully it's not something to worry about.

Anyway, I'll write again later. Sorry there's no personal this time. But I hope you're all enjoying your bubs!:wave:

sam's mum
07-11-2007, 17:18
Fenugreek is in the chemist where the vitamins are, no script needed. Motillium you need a script.

Something that I should have mentioned that I learnt the hard way - make sure that you take the full course that the doctor prescribes. He told me to do 10 days of 3 per day, 10 days of 2 per day, 10 days of 1 per day. After a couple of days I had milk so I stopped the tablets, my milk disappeared as well. started taking the tablets again, my milk was back the next day. After a couple of days I had milk so I stopped the tablets, my milk disappeared.... started taking the tablets again, my milk was back the next day. Hmm, raise your hand if you think that this was enough that I learnt... NOPE, took one more go before I realised that I needed to take the tablets longer than that...

saremc
07-11-2007, 17:29
Hi well Isabelle DP and I are settleing in its so hard i feel like im not doing things right and my mother had been making some interesting coments i just told her ive been home for 3 days and have had surgrey (which she should know about seeing she had had two ceasers)

The BF is going ok sometimes she goes but screws around still its getting better felt like she foed every two hours or something last night man that took it out of me and DP


Have sort of read through the posts there are so many plus my back aches grrrr

Well better go and see what is for dinner will try and get back later :wave:

Dellibelli
07-11-2007, 17:45
Hi Girls

Haven't been on for a while but all good with DH, Oshan and myself.

BF didn't work out for me, despite the help of a LC and really great midwifes, but ho hum... he is on formula (Nan HA - excellent stuff) and sleeping well and putting on weight and doing all the good things 3 week old babies do! :thumbsup:

DH is secretly pleased, as he had been dying to feed him and bond. They look so cute together on the couch, watching 5th Gear and having a bottle... my boys... ! :kiss:

Went to my first mother's group and met some great girls. Hopefully we will gel and catch up for coffee and chat down at Bondi... will break this great routine of feeding, changing, sleeping, washing, cleaning, dinner, repeat!

Will have to put the little one down to read the last few pages and do some personals - feels like ages since I have been on BH!

Dellibelli
07-11-2007, 17:48
Message from Farmmummy (Nikki) ...


Hey there hun thanks for the pm. I'm getting there slowly. Have been Jack's funeral this morning feel alittle numb because I haven't cried for two days now a bit of a record. He is being cremated on the 26th November at 10am at Mt Gravatt.
We're really into the reno's on the house, it gives DH an outlet and makes the days go by quickly. I have also decided to ttc in a couple of weeks, the prospect is helping me cope and given me a long term goal to reach for. I know I'll never be able to bring him back and I'm not replacing him I just want to get on with life and I know Jack wants me to be happy again. My poor little angel.
Could you pls also let the other October mummies know I'm okay, I miss them and thank them for their hugs, prayers etc.

thanks
Nikki x

Cenni
07-11-2007, 17:50
Hello I think my last post said BBL, and it been ages but all is going well just time goes so quick with a baby-she is getting old too quick.

Penny is doing fantastic she is gaining lots of weight, 260grams since Thursday last week.
I am feeding her still 3-4hourly and only every second feed giving her breast and express. Her sleeping patterns have changed, today she has been unsettled so falls asleep then wakes crying after 20mins, when I hold her she falls asleep but cries when put back in bassinet.

I had three friends visit today and it was nice gossiping etc, they dont have children and I think my birth story scared them but I assured them its worth it and not all women have bad experiences.
Speaking of birth stories I have half written mine and will post it very soon.

saremc
07-11-2007, 18:02
Oh yeah will post my birth story at some stage have written it just have to type it.

To Farmmummie :hugs: it will feel better with time plus you never forget think of your angel looking after you!

Mammy
07-11-2007, 23:21
Hi all,

I havent been on here for ages.......... its just so hard to find the time lately!! DD only seems to have one sleep during the day and thats when i need to nap too, so no time for BH :gloomy:

My little angel who used to only wake once during the night is now feeding 2-3 hrly, its really taking it out of mummy!! Last night she stayed awake for 3 hours!! :hair:

Besides the sleeping issues, all is well. Hopefully ill get back on here a bit more once she gets into a proper routine.

Delli, thanks for the message from Nikki, ive been thinking about her :hugs:

Have been catching up on the posts but have losts more pages to read.

Gotta go, someones looking for boobie...

xxx

zenifa
08-11-2007, 08:25
Sounds like you had a great day yesterday Zenifa, if only they were all like that hey?

I bought a couple of jazslings yesterday, a have a friend who has them and she likes hers, although it isn't comfortable for 'long' wear. They look good though and they are really cheap from a lady on ebay. I actually hate the idea of using slings, and I doubt it will work as the little so-n-so hates being held anyway, but anything is worth a try I guess.

And no, I wasn't joking about TTC I would have #3 now and get it out of the way if I could... the less years changing nappies and getting up all night long the better, LOL. I figure if they can all walk and are self-sufficient when the eldest starts going to school will make my life a lot easier

So both you and Jo are getting Jazzslings, I look forward to hearing how they go from the both of you!!
Yes we have our good days and bad, the good ones are bliss and on the bad days I try to stay calm and remember that it will pass.
I can see you point about TTC and getting the pregnancy/birth and baby stuff out of the way - that is why we have had a 2yr gap between our babies. I think if we had started our family before I was 30 then maybe I would of considered having 3 or 4, but now at 33, I'm done. I'm happy to just enjoy my 2 girls!!




well heres and update
DD2 is going well hes Growing well he put on over 300gms last week :eek: which make Him just under 4kg now Hes now in Zantac for hes reflux and its seem to of helped But i thinks hes having a growth spurt or I dont have enough milk as hes alway hungry Lucky I have about 30+ 120ml bottles of frozen EBM as hes having 1-2 of them a day.
Ive made the cookies:chef: (very Yummy DS1 loves them too) and am expressing after just about every feed (only get about 20-40mls) but I seem to have less milk in the afternoon but over night theres heaps and hes still feeding 3-4 hourly overnight and 2-3hrly during the day except for the last few night hes had a feed around 1-2 ish and then a feed at round 6-7 as hes feel back asleep in bed with me:sleeping:

I just hope I can get my supply back up by the time The EBM runs out as I really want to continue feeding for along as poss (might have to hire an electric pump again as that helped)

where seeing a paed surgeon about DD2 belly button soon as its quite big but other than that hes actual paed doesn't want to see him until Feb (booked out until Jan)
We still have to see the Speech, Physio , OT and He has Hes Hearing test next week as hes High Risk But :fingerscrossed: every thing goes well


Hope everything goes well with the tests, good luck, we'll be thinking of you!!



Well Olivia is 2 weeks and 2 days old today. It seems like she's been here forever, lol. She's still feeding and sleeping well. Well, most of the time. She has this unsettled period every night at 7pm where she just won't go to sleep. I'll be feeding her, then she'll be asleep but as soon as I put her down, she'll wake up and we have to start all over again. Last night I was a bit teary, so dh took over and he managed to put her to sleep just by stroked her forehead.

Sam's mum, do I have to get prescription for any of that medicines? I'm a bit worried with the fact that Olivia's on my breast pretty much all the time, yet my breast only seem to be full every 3 hours. Wouldn't mind a bit of extra milk.

I took Lloyd and Olivia to the mothers' group today. Well, that was interesting to get ready. Lloyd wanted to jump back to the bath when I bathed Olivia, so when we told him he couldn't of course he cried. Then Olivia started to cry. I was feeling the pressure. Thankfully once we were in the car, Lloyd was happy and Olivia went to sleep. It was hard try to get 2 kids ready. Oh well, I'll get the hang of it soon, won't I?

I took Olivia to the gp to get her checked over the twitches or jerks she's been having. Midwife told me to get it check just to rule out seizures. So I'm waiting to hear from the gp to see if the peaditrician (sp?) could see her in a couple of days. Some ppl told me it's just newborn movement jerks, but in my heart I know it's different, whether it's something sinister or not, I just have the feeling it's different. But hopefully it's not something to worry about.

Anyway, I'll write again later. Sorry there's no personal this time. But I hope you're all enjoying your bubs!



Hope everything is okay with your DD's movements, and hopefully you can get your supply increased.
Hearing about you getting ready to go to mum's group and trying to manage 2 kids, resonated with me, as I have similar experiences daily!! I live in hope that it will get easier or that I will manage to deal with it better in time!!


Anne - great to see you back here, yes it is hard to get on BH, I'm lucky if I can post/read here once/day.
Sounds like your little angel may be having a growth spurt if she her sleep/feeding has changed so much!! Hope it improves!!

Jillian - great to see you back here too, and fantastic that Penny is doing so well and putting on weight!

Dellibelli - try not to be too hard on yourself re:bf, you tried your best and now as long as you and your baby (& DH) are happy that is all that matters!! Glad that you had a good mother's group experience!! Also thanks for the message from Nikki, we are all thinking about her and will keep a special thought for her on Nov 26th :crying:

Sara - try not to take your mum's comments too much to heart, I am sure you are doing a great job and hopefully the bf and your back ache will improve.

Milliner - like you I found the birth, my recovery and breastfeeding better and easier second time round, much to my relief!!
My DD2 is also a booby fiend but her witching hour is at lunchtime and dinnertime for an hour each time, what is that all about??

Sam's mum - I'm on Brissie southside, but would still like to meet up (see my post in the other thread). I agree with you, its key to look for tired signs so that you can get them to go to sleep on their own and they don't get overtired/overstimulated, then they are so unsettled and its really hard to get them to sleep.

My DD2 doesn't take a dummy and as I've just started to express, I'm having trouble getting her to take a bottle (given that she doesn't really know what to do with an artifical nipple), any tips/suggestions? I really want DH to be able to give her a feed and in time be able to leave her with my mum/mil at times (for appts).
Apart from that we are doing well. All went well yesterday at library story time, except we got soaked trying to get the kids into the car:rain: , but it was nice to see my parents afterwards. Today DD1 is having a day with her grandparents, while I meet up with a friend for lunch and maybe (depending on DD2) see a babes in arms movie (yes ambitious I know!)
Have a great day and I will try to BBL!!

laurannson
08-11-2007, 10:39
Howdy!!!!!
Wow-I didn't realise how hard it would be to find time for BH-hope it will get easier as the time goes by!!!!
Today is just me and Samuel!!!Lauren is at school,and Annalise and Jackson are at family day care-so the house ie eerily quiet!!!!!!
We are going to hit the shops late-boring old grocery shopping though!!!!!!
Well Samuel is going great guns-feeding really well,and starting to work out day and night!!!!I still feel a bit silly in the head though,as I don't have a chance to have a sleep during the day(except for today!!!!!)and catch up on lost sleep-it is amazing though how you just cope hey!!!!!!!!
I had the CHN come out on Tuesday to weigh Samuel and he had put on 390gms in 6 days......and I am still only feeding him one side at each feed-so I daren't offer the other side!!!
The other kids are coping pretty well with the new addition,although Jackson(19month old)has had a few hissy fits while I have been feeding-I think he has just realised that Samuel is here to stay!!!!!But all in all-life is pretty cool-DH and I can't believe we have 4 kids now(how did that happen!!!!!)as although it was never part of the "grand" plan.it now feels right-funny how life pans out hey!!!!
Hope to get back later to do personals,but Samuel is grunting to be fed!!!!!!!!
Hope everyone has a great day!!
Cheers!

Cenni
08-11-2007, 13:19
Hi all, two days in a row for me and posting what the........ lol, seriously Penny is having a sleep. It has been raining here all morning and once i saw a break I put her in the pram and got out for a walk because I have had a headache all day. :thumbsdown: The fresh air helped a little.
The rain has started again now and Penny fell asleep in the pram so she is still sleeping there next to me I didnt want to get her up and disturb her.


zenifa-Did you get to the movies? If so what did you see? I was thinking of taking Penny to the movies but I might wait a few months.

MooMoo-I agree it is really hard to find the time to post. Hope you and bub are getting more sleep.

Dellibelli-Thanks for message from Nikki. She is in my thoughts.
Also glad you enjoyed your Mothers group, I am looking forward to meeting up with the mums in my area.

To everyone else- :hugs:

saremc
08-11-2007, 14:22
Hi all well did i have a night i had a coffee for the first time since hospital and man did we pay Isabelle was up most of the night snacking and not setteling Grrrr oh well am hopeing to get a nap at some stage. i really hated it but i fell asleep feeding her last night think that may have been the reason for the snacking.
Good to hear we are coping as much as possible and still getting time for BH.

Well better pay the bills and have a rest before this little one wakes up.

michblb
08-11-2007, 16:04
Firstly to Nikki, my thoughts are with you, glad you are keeping busy and TTC again, good luck with it.:hugs:

Saremc, hhmm bugger about the coffee but at least you know what unsettles her so you can avoid it. And don’t worry too much about your Mum’s comments, I’m sure you’re doing fine.

Jillian – hope the headache has gone, isn’t the weather awful atm? It definitely makes getting out a challenge.

Laurannson – yeah Im struggling too with time on the computer, especially if I don’t have a reasonable night’s sleep. Wow great weight gain, it’s good to know that they are growing as they should. Last night I got about 6 hours sleep (most I’ve had this week I think) and I feel pretty good – it is amazing that one copes.

Zenifa, gee good on you for getting so much done in a day, hope you get to the movies. When I was both breast/bottle feeding Charlotte we got teats shaped like a nipple and she didn’t have any problems switching between the two, but I guess she didn’t have too much time to get used to just the breast first – so maybe a bit different. Good luck with it.:thumbsup:

Moomoo – 3 hours – you poor thing, it’s annoying when they’ve been in a good routine and just change, especially it must be hard if you are still breast feeding. Hope things work out soon for you.

Dellibelli – I use the Nan HA stuff too – it’s great. Glad you enjoyed your mother’s group – I’m going next week so looking forward to it.

Mummy21soon2b2 – good luck with the tests, hope everything works out ok.:fingerscrossed:

Jo – how cute - a smile, gee it seems to be raining everywhere!

Nat – awesome about the help with dinners from the other mums – that will be a big help, hope you are coping ok with Adan away. Enjoy your DVD, you deserve the break, 3 kids by yourself must be tiring.

Sam’s mum and Mel – excellent that the breast feeding is going so well for you both.

Muminlove – thanks for the tip – I must try stroking the forehead.

Cass – hope you are going well, annoying that Afrika is still taking along time to feed.

TTC – nah not sure if I want 2 (means 4 with DSSs) as we would need new house, car etc.

Bellybotton – Charlotte has a small hernia which I hope will go away, it’s funny she has little legs and hips, then a massive belly (prob full of yummy milk!)

My update – things have been going ok – a few sleepless nights but been trying to nap during the day. Been getting out and about more, took her into work for a show off in the baby bjorn carrier – went well she slept the whole way and did a big burp infront of the girls, who thought it was v funny. :laughing:

Caught up with Erin (yes from BubHub) today and Hanna and Charlotte had a play – read bashed each other in the head with their fists! Feeling a lot better about taking her places.

Charlotte and I have moved into the 2nd bedroom as I kept waking up DH when I took bub in and out so now we sleep separately – seems to work well.

Hope to post more if Charlotte lets me.:rolleyes:

zenifa
08-11-2007, 16:40
Hi everyone!!!
Just a quick post from me, I did get the movies with X and saw the new Brad Pitt movie 'Assassination of Jesse James' which was good but very long (3 hours). X did really well, fed for the 1st 90 mins kept switching from side to side, burping/farting and then feeding again, and then slept through the last half (she must of been exhausted). Given the movie was so long, my friend and I skipped lunch (we had lots of snacks in the cinema) so I could go and get DD1 from mum and dads. Better go and get some dinner on.
Hope everyone is having a great day.
We're having a quiet day at home tomorrow, so will be back on BH then. Bye for now!!

Cenni
08-11-2007, 16:48
zenifa-I want to see that film, I have heard some great reviews. My sister said that what she did the first film she saw as a new Mum, fed her baby for most of the film, she saw heaps of movies when she had her baby.

mich-The rain is getting to me. :hair: I have so much washing to do and also really enjoy getting out for walks with Penny-we did however get out today briefly but seems set in for the weekend they say.

BTW My headache has gone slightly, I didnt take anything for it so it would have probably gone sooner but I just drank heaps of water.

erinp
08-11-2007, 17:00
Hi ladies,

Well I have been reading but not necessarily posting.....time is so limited these days! Had a lovely time catching up with Mich & Charlotte today - will post a pic or two when I upload them....Hannah has been sleeping well, feeding well, generally pretty good here! DH & I have sorted out the sleeping arrangements and he has relented and slept with earplugs the last 2 nights and we are all much happier for it :thumbsup: I'm feeling better too as I'm just not ready to put Hannah into her own room.....

Ok I will attempt some personals, not sure how far I'll get....

Sarah - hope you have had a better day with Isabelle today. Looks like someone might have to give up the coffee.....

Laurannson - glad to hear all is going well with your :eek: FOUR kids - I take my hat off to you!! (secretly i would love 4 kids but on the $$ side of things don't think we'll get there - nor do I want to be pregnant another 3 times, i hated my pregnancy....)

Zenifa - GL with the bottle; Unfortunately I don't have any advice but will be trying the same thing shortly; DH & I have tickets to elton John at the end of Nov and I want to be able to leave Hannah with mum - I expressed the first time this morning and in 10 mins I got 40ml so was pretty happy. How was the movie??

Anne - good to see you back on, have been wondering how you were.

DelliBelli - it seems you are another Sydneysider?? (duh I missed it before, now I see it says plain as day on your 'location' - gee i'm slow, i'll blame it on the preggy/placenta brain...)

muminlove - great your DH gave you a break; sounds like you needed it. I went grocery shopping in between feeds last night and I've never been so excited by it before - just to have some 'me' time even if it was to do the groceries...plus it have DH some time to experience what I do all day long. He said he was tired when I got back (and I was out less than an hour!) Hope you're feeling better today :hugs:

Milliner - great the BF is going so well. I only got a bit of grazing on my nipples and everything has gone so smoothly. It's nice and easy to just have it 'on tap' isn't it :D Haha I don't want the ttc or pregnancy OR birth - just give me the baby i say!! (:cool: hmm guess there has to be some work for the reward...)

Jane - good to hear the BF is going well now.

michblb
08-11-2007, 17:38
Wow Erin we both got to post on the same day.:thumbsup: Yeah for bubhub time. As soon as DH came home I handed her over - gotta love it. Yeah catching up was fun and looking forward to the next catch up, hopefully with more Sydney October mummies.

SJE
08-11-2007, 17:41
Hi Everyone

I have been doing the same here - reading but not able to post:(

Annelise seems to have a BH sensor; she always starts screaming when its on:rolleyes:

With the ttcing- they say its better to wait a year to let the body recover - thats probably dependent on the individual though.
Personally - it would be nice to have three kids but it just depends on too many unknowns.
DD1 would have to be at school at least.

Movies - if you want to see any in the next 3 years I would strongly recommend doing it before bubs can crawl - they dont seem to stay still or quiet after that.

With the breast like teat - can I ask what brand that was?

Erinp - its great things are going well. Also you were able to get out for some me time. Perhaps next time it can be for something more exciting like a massage!

Lauranson - You are doing well to coordinate 4 kids. Are you thinking of having more?
When I was little I wanted six - til I found out how they came out - lol

Moomoo - Hope you got some naps today. Perhaps its a growth spurt. Can you keep her awake and feeding longer to make bigger gaps?

We are still having the feeding issues here - seems to be letdown thing. Does Motillum or herbs help with this?

TeamAwesome
08-11-2007, 19:15
Hi Ladies,

Had Angie up late last night then up a few times so didn't get a whole lot of sleep only to be woken up at 4.45am by the kids. then we have had some good news, some not so good news (which comes with the good news) and bad news here today.

the good news - due to bad weather Aden is coming home tomorrow until next wednesday!

the not so good news - is the great pay we were counting on next week won't be so great due to the bad weather and inability to do the work.

the bad news - is that Angie Ty and I have impetigo! (aka school sores) We have NO IDEA how we got it but am a bit peeved Angie in particular got it as she's so little. Trying to figure out when and where, am thinking possibly the hospital, play group last week or by going shopping and getting it off a trolley. Though I may have had it before that I just can't remember I scratched something on my arm in the dark then thought nothing more of it until today as you do going through the days in a sleepy daze so am thinking the hospy is actually a high contender.

So am happy about Aden coming home, not really happy about the money next week (he's already paid out for a cabin which is $20 more a week then our house!) not happy Angie has to be on antibiotics at such a young age as she's got it bad due to her lack of immune system.

would love to do personals but have a mountain of dishes and some washing to do plus I'm exhausted and know with Aden coming home I need to get into it and then get some rest.

michblb
08-11-2007, 20:40
Oh Nat, sorry to hear about impetigo - poor Angie. I hope the antibiotics work. Bummer about the pay too - especially when you're counting on it. I didn't understand the cabin cost - did he have to hire a cabin where he was going to work? Guess it's the silver lining thing - at least you get to see Aden.

Sending you and the kids lots of 'get better vibes':babydust2:

SeeJayElle - we use Tommeetippee newborn no 1 teats, which I'm pretty happy sorry not sure what it's called exactly but it says on the package that the teat reflects the natural shape of the nipple for bottle/breast feeding. Hope you get the feeding sorted soon.:thumbsup:

Hm good point about the movies - although DH and I hardly go anyway, we prefer DVDs in the comfort of our own home.

Man what a treat - 3 posts on bub hub woohoo - now you probably won't hear from me for another 3 days:laughing:

Hope everyone is well.

Grizabella
08-11-2007, 22:40
Hiya guys

Back now - puter is better and so are we.

Toran is doing well - after getting mastitis from his feeds going skewiffy from being sick I had to express til my mastitis got better. Then my supply died, then Toran stopped attaching properly. So I figured feck it - I am tired enough and personally have enough on my plate dealing with depression, Brion, my back and hips (they have been playing up since giving birth) and then all of this messing about with feeds. So I have switched to formula.

I am less stressed, Toran is happy and full, Brion gets more of my time and Stu loves being able to have a cuddle and help me out. So whilst breast is great - for us bottle means a happier Mum and happier kids and happier partner, which to me is way more important.

Hope everyone is doing well. Sorry no [ersonals but I am so far behind on how everyone is going I am just going to start doing personals from now on instead of trying to catch up.

TeamAwesome
09-11-2007, 07:27
Mich- yeah Aden had to pay for his accommodation. he pays more for a tiny teeny room with an ens then we pay for our 4brm house! it's nuts, especially when you have to fork out the money prior to being paid the Living away from home allowance.

I'm hoping the ABs work quickly, normally 24-48hrs, I'm glad Aden will be home cos it means I cam get some more rest and hopefully get my immune system back up.

Jude- glad to see you back! I totally agree happier mum = happier family and sounds like its working well for you guys! its no fun being stressed about feeding (had lots of issues with Ty) well I chose to go to bed last night over doing the house work so better go drag myself off to do that. been loving the peace qand quiet while I did this though.

zenifa
09-11-2007, 09:17
zenifa-I want to see that film, I have heard some great reviews. My sister said that what she did the first film she saw as a new Mum, fed her baby for most of the film, she saw heaps of movies when she had her baby.


Yes its a great movie, but only worth going to see with bubs if he/she can feed and sleep for the 3 hrs!! Luckily DD2 slept in my sling and was content after her feeds.

With DD1 I went to a few movies all between the ages of 2-6mths (Mission impossible 3, the break up, pirates of the carribean 2), I would feed her and then she would sleep in the pram. After that she became too alert and active to sit through a movie. She didn't crawl til 7mths and by then it was going to be too much of a hassle chasing her on the floor (and minding her on steps) to be worth going, and not being able to see the movie.


Hi ladies,

Well I have been reading but not necessarily posting.....time is so limited these days! Had a lovely time catching up with Mich & Charlotte today - will post a pic or two when I upload them....Hannah has been sleeping well, feeding well, generally pretty good here! DH & I have sorted out the sleeping arrangements and he has relented and slept with earplugs the last 2 nights and we are all much happier for it :thumbsup: I'm feeling better too as I'm just not ready to put Hannah into her own room.....

Ok I will attempt some personals, not sure how far I'll get....

Zenifa - GL with the bottle; Unfortunately I don't have any advice but will be trying the same thing shortly; DH & I have tickets to elton John at the end of Nov and I want to be able to leave Hannah with mum - I expressed the first time this morning and in 10 mins I got 40ml so was pretty happy. How was the movie??



So glad to hear that you and Mich had a great day meeting up and your girls had fun too!! My advice re:bottle is to try it soon and give Hannah a bit of practice with the bottle (as you may need to test a few different teats to get the right match for her), so she feeds happily and you can leave her and feel confident that she will feed okay without you there. Great work with your expressing!!
I have an abundant supply - last night DD2 slept for 6 hours, which was great but I woke up because I was leaking - through my breastpad, mat bra, nightie and onto the fitted sheet on our bed :eek: I was huge and felt like my boobs would explode so I expressed, as I thought, there is no way X will attach properly on these melons........10 mins later doing both sides 220ml!! Plus there was still heaps there for her to feed on!!
I enjoyed the movie, although its a bit slow paced, and not really a feel good movie, however in it Brad shows he's not just a pretty face, he can act too!!


Hi Ladies,

Had Angie up late last night then up a few times so didn't get a whole lot of sleep only to be woken up at 4.45am by the kids. then we have had some good news, some not so good news (which comes with the good news) and bad news here today.

the good news - due to bad weather Aden is coming home tomorrow until next wednesday!

the not so good news - is the great pay we were counting on next week won't be so great due to the bad weather and inability to do the work.

the bad news - is that Angie Ty and I have impetigo! (aka school sores) We have NO IDEA how we got it but am a bit peeved Angie in particular got it as she's so little. Trying to figure out when and where, am thinking possibly the hospital, play group last week or by going shopping and getting it off a trolley. Though I may have had it before that I just can't remember I scratched something on my arm in the dark then thought nothing more of it until today as you do going through the days in a sleepy daze so am thinking the hospy is actually a high contender.

So am happy about Aden coming home, not really happy about the money next week (he's already paid out for a cabin which is $20 more a week then our house!) not happy Angie has to be on antibiotics at such a young age as she's got it bad due to her lack of immune system.

would love to do personals but have a mountain of dishes and some washing to do plus I'm exhausted and know with Aden coming home I need to get into it and then get some rest.

:hugs: to you Nat, hope you, Angie and Ty get better soon, impetigo, how annoying.
Great news about Aden coming home, as I think his help will be great, so you can get some rest, but bummer about the cabin fee and less wages, hope its not too finanically stressful for you!!! Hope you get more sleep, you are doing a great job with the 3 kids and still managing to post here!!


Hiya guys

Back now - puter is better and so are we.

Toran is doing well - after getting mastitis from his feeds going skewiffy from being sick I had to express til my mastitis got better. Then my supply died, then Toran stopped attaching properly. So I figured feck it - I am tired enough and personally have enough on my plate dealing with depression, Brion, my back and hips (they have been playing up since giving birth) and then all of this messing about with feeds. So I have switched to formula.

I am less stressed, Toran is happy and full, Brion gets more of my time and Stu loves being able to have a cuddle and help me out. So whilst breast is great - for us bottle means a happier Mum and happier kids and happier partner, which to me is way more important.

Hope everyone is doing well. Sorry no [ersonals but I am so far behind on how everyone is going I am just going to start doing personals from now on instead of trying to catch up.

Jude, great to have you back here!! We have missed you. Glad the computer is better and you guys too!!

I've said it before and am happy to say it again - breast is only best, if you can do it and both mum and bubs are happy. I agree happy mum = happy family, so you have made the right choice for you, Toran and your family. Hope that things are going well for you.

SeeJayElle - (sorry long answer ahead, see the bold for the short answer to your bottle question) when I had DD1, I was given an Avent manual isis pump and AVent bottles which I tried, but DD1 would not take the bottle, and when she did it took her ages to feed and she coughed/spluttered lots and had bad wind.
When I saw my LC, she recommended Happy Baby dummies and bottles/teats, as they have a shape closest to a nipple (so less nipple confusion apparently and less wind/colic). There are other brands too, just stay away from orthodontic and brands that promise to reduce wind/colic, my LC says they are a con. Also they are amongst the cheapest too. They worked a treat with DD1, but so far DD2 isn't that keen - she also doesn't take a dummy, unlike DD1 who needed to suck all the time (& even now has a dummy to go to sleep ....:hair: but that is another story).

With DD1 I waited 4 weeks til I saw my LC, so I was desperately trying to bf, with poor positioning/ attachment, sore cracked nipples and was using nipple shields and expressing so I could give her a bottle every 2nd feed and give my poor nipples a break, so DD1 was used to a bottle in the first 4 weeks.

With DD2, I haven't given her a bottle (of EBM) til she's 5 weeks, so maybe that is why it is taking her longer to get the hang of it, will try again today as DH has offered to do the 2am feed for me tonight (so I will express at 10pm and :fingerscrossed: sleep through til 6am without being engorged, but may need to get up to express, we'll see).

Its a quiet day here for us, just hanging out at home with the girls, hoping to have a nap today!! Got a busy weekend, with visitors for lunch both Sat (inlaws plus BIL and his wife) and on Sun (DH's work colleagues, one couple), so we'll be busy managing the kids and cooking food - it will be a challenge trying to do entertaining!! At least we can work as a team, I would of refused if it was all due to me :chef: Have a great day and I will try to pop back in later. Bye!!

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=19218&l=0f350&id=706031267 hopefully my link to photos will work this time

Dellibelli
09-11-2007, 10:20
michblb and erinp - good to hear that there are some BH Mummies close by - love to catch up next time you have time. :thumbsup:

erinp
09-11-2007, 10:46
SeeJay - yes I would love to make my 'me time' a massage next time!! I hope you can sort out the feeding soon....

Nat - sorry to hear your not so good and bad news :thumbsdown: On the up side at least Aden will be home to help out....

Mich - looks like Chalotte was a good girl last ight :)

Jude - great to see you back; had a read of your birth story too. Glad you are happy with your decision and I agree with everyone else happy mummy=happy family.

Zenifa - thanks for the advice re: bottle feeding. It's our next big task to tackle! Glad you enjoyed the movie; might have to try it myself.... Great to see your photos too!!

Dellibelli - we'd love to meet up with you next time! Jillian (Cenni) is also from Sydney(ish - Blaxland, so we span the extents of it...) so it'd be great to all meet up. Besides, we need a boy for our girls to play with!!

Well Hannah slept beautifully last night; settled round 7:30 then I woke her to feed around 11, straight back to sleep and then a feed at 4, straight back to sleep again! The earplugs are working wonders for DH so we are happier all round. Only thing was, I couldn't sleep when I tried!! Think I had too long a nap in the arvo yesterday....

Yes Mich's girl Charlotte and my Hannah had a lovely play together yesterday (and Mich and I had a great chat!) - I have updated Hannah's blog with some piccies so if you want to check it out just click on the link in my signature that says "Hannah's website". We think they are very cute.....

saremc
09-11-2007, 13:30
Hi well i am so tired just a quick post, Isabelle had a spew last night and one at lunch today so im not doing to good im not sure whats going on my boobs were really full both times and her spews were pretty big :gloomy: .

Well im off to have a nap while she is asleep, Dp goes back to work next week am not looking foward to that really dont want to be alone not feeling confident plus im a bit emotional Grrrrr!

i did read the posts but cannot remember a thing brain like jelly! Hope everyone i going well.

:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

michblb
09-11-2007, 14:18
Well have decided to prioritise BH over hanging out the washing - hence time to post.

Great photos Erin - love the last photo, they look like they're doing an Abba dance together.:laughing: Gosh next to Abbey Hannah looks huge (I thought Hanna was the smaller bub initially) What a great night - lucky you!

Glad you can join us next time Dellibelli, we'll do a multiple PM or email or something, with the four of us.

Jillian - me too the rain is driving me nuts, trying to put her in the car without cover is awful so I don't bother going out much and I haven't bought a cover for the pram yet.

Saremc, hope you get a nap in and Charlotte did 2 massive spews last night too - must be something in the air.

Jude - glad things are better for you and I was the same, everyone was so much happier on formula:thumbsup:

Zenifa - wow what a busy weekend you've got planned, :fingerscrossed: that you get to sleep through the night. Great photos on facebook by the way.

Nat - at does suck, especially because it's such expensive accom.:thumbsdown:

Cass, good luck with your appointment, yep we've renamed Charlotte a few times - Devil's spawn and Satan's Messanger just to name a few lol

Quick post caquse princess will be awake soon - well night from hell last night - 2 massive projectile spews at 1am, 1 all over me, the other over her. Then at 4am I changed her pooy nappy but she was still pushin it out, tried to contain it but she kicked her feet in it and got everywhere - feet, legs, stomach, muslin...gggrrrrr. Was trying to quickly catch the poo and scratched her with my nail on the face (oops sorry) so she screamed more and woke up Matt. Anyway finally got her back to sleep about 5.

Haven't got out of PJs today couldn't be bothered so just been napping, on computer and watching Judge Judy. Going back to the gym on the weekend - yeah!

Hope everyone is well
Mich

zenifa
09-11-2007, 15:29
Back on here briefly, I have a pile of dishes that I've been avoiding all day, but really must do them while DD2 is asleep and DD1 is watching Bananas in Pajamas.

Its been an okay day, but DD2 has been unsettled every time I try to put her down, :crying:, so I put her in the sling, but realised I must of done something to my neck and back as it hurts:( !! Also DD2 has been possetting a bit, not a full on vomit but overspill of milk (that sour milk smell is yuck ). Then when I finally got DD1 down for a nap (she refused lunch, lost her dummy and threw a tanty for her comforter a 'lamb' that was still drying after a much needed wash), I had a shower, attended to my feet (been very neglected lately, really need a pedicure) and had lunch and then tried to have a nap, but DD2 needed feeds and cuddles constantly, then I tried to cosleep, but the phone rang and the doorbell rang :banghead: (I ignored both) but then DD1 was awake :hair:
So although I haven't been doing much (aside from a big load of washing) I feel absolutely exhausted - thank goodness its takeaway for dinner tonight. Really hoping for that sleep tonight.

Cassie - hope your CHN appt went well!!

Mich - hope you have a better night tonight, with poo and spew you had your hands full. Its okay X has pooed on me 3 times in the last week, thankfully the leaky nappy happened when I was at home and could change, wouldn't want an explosion on me while I'm out!! (reminder to self, pack spare clothes for me, not just the baby!!)

Sara :hugs: to you, hope things improve and you got a nap, its amazing how some sleep can improve your mood. Try not to worry, I'm sure you will do well when DP goes back to work, you can always vent here if it gets bad.

Okay, better go and do those dishes!! Bye!!

Cenni
09-11-2007, 15:41
Erin- Those pics are so cute. :) Sounds like a nice night for Hannah.

Mich-I have a pram cover but its still too much of a challenge with pram and unbrella etc, so have been inside all day, oh wait I took the bin out that was nice. :laughing:

saremc-I felt the same before my DP went back to work and Friday cant come quick enough each week YAY its Friday today, but you will be fine be sure to seek support from family and friends when you can. :hugs: to you have a nice rest.

Cassie-how did you go with the nurse, the nurse I have been seeing is very lovely however I think seeing so many babies got to her the other day she called Penny a few different names and also confused her age.

Penny has had a nice day after a good night last night, she slept from 11.30pm-2am, then back to sleep after a feed until 5am then was up until 6.30am but slept again until 9am.
Today she had a massive poo after her 230pm feed but has been sleeping very peacefully from 330pm, so I have done some cleaning and now having some me time.
DP wants to get take away and a DVD tonight, see how we will go watching it.
Otherwise one of my friends maybe visiting on the weekend and we really need to go do some food shopping, not much in the fridge or cupboard.

AnD05
09-11-2007, 18:35
:wave: all!
Will prob have to make this a quick one as DS is due to wake any second for a feed!

Had a nice day at home today. Just had a very preg friend over for lunch and cuddles with DS, did some washing and have been busy writing out thank you cards to post off tomoro! Had a great night last night, not a huge screaming match at all, just awake and wanting some cuddles, then fed at 9pm slept from 10ish till 2, fed and back to sleep by 3 then awake at 8:30am! If he keeps that up Il be one happy mummy!

Oh...someones awake, he must of heard me typing :laughing: ...will BBL for personals!!

A

mischief79
09-11-2007, 18:40
Hi to all the other October mummies out there! Glad I've found a place to chat with others who are at the same stage as me. Looking forward to it....

SJE
09-11-2007, 19:12
Hi Mischief79 - Looking forward to chatting with you. Can you tell us a bit about yourself?

Michblb - Isnt motherhood glamorous. Poo and spew - yucko!

Saremc - Just take it easy next week. The first week without DP seems to be the most difficult. Have a good cry when you need to and jump on BH to chat to us when you need to vent :thumbsup:

AnD05, Cenni and Erinp - Sounds like there are some good sleeping gaps there. It will be so great when they are all sleeping though - Perhaps in time for Christmas:xmastree: :fingerscrossed:

Wednesday night being without DH and both kids going crazy, I just cryed my eyes out. I was just so overwhelmed and tired. Also so sick of the feelings of rejection from having bubs scream at my breast. Thursday was better - DH decided to work from home which meant a nice nap for me. This weekend we are going to give this BF thing a good go. DH will take care of the toddler so I can relax and have letdown.

Certainly appreciate the small things now - to have a shower, eat breakfast, to have empty boobies and just to sleep for a hour or two!


Hope those of you that are severly sleep deprived atm get a decent one tonight. It so affects your ability to cope.

Grizabella
09-11-2007, 19:31
Hiya guys - had a nice day today. Didn;t really do much - went to the GP to get Brion's Ear Nose and Throat specialist referral. We got the assessment back from the Speechie. Brion is advanced for his age in everything except speech. So it is a physical thing which is great news (as opposed to a mental delay IYKWIM).

Then went to work and said Gday to everyone. Will be going back in Dec to work. Just a cple nights a week again. I love my job as unglamorous as it is.

After that went to the Chiro and had my pelvis, Coccix (sp?) and pubic bone realigned, as well as my back and neck. Couldn't believe how stuffed my back is - even the chiro said it was bad. Will be going each week til we get on top of it.

My brother and SIL are coming round for BBQ lunch tomorrow. Then friends are coming over for dinner. Stu has also offered to sleep in the spare room Sat night with Toran and take care of all the feeds etc so I can get a night of uninterrupted sleep! Yay!

Went on a shopping spree yesterday, but plan on continuing it next week too. Also going to get my eyebrow repierced (jewellery fell out and it closed over cos I was too slack to get more).

Oooh ooh!! Also Stu and I have decided to get tattoos for Chrissy! I am getting on on the inside of each wrist - just the boys initials and DOB - can't wait!!!!!

Also next week we are getting our Foxtel! I won a yrs worth in a comp, how good is that!

Has anyone started thinking of Christmas yet?? I am so excited - the spark of Christmas has come back to me - and we are getting a new tree and deccos this yr. I want a 6ft fibre optic tree, have to keep an eye out for one - think they are in Myer.

Mischief79 - Welcome to the thread! Looking forward to getting to know you :)

Michblb - Oh the joys hey? I remember before Brion if I had a small stain of any kind on my clothes I would refuse to wear it out - would have to get changed. Now I just have a quick go at it with a baby wipe (if I even notice it) and hope no one notices the drool stains or yoghurt etc on my clothes :laughing:

Saremc - I agree with SeeJay, always come here if you need to whinge/vent/cry. Also always ask for help if you need it. I made the mistake in the first few weeks not to ask for help with Brion and it nearly broke me. Never be too proud to ask for help, we all need it at some point

SeeJay - sorry to hear you had a cr@ppy sleep deprived day on Wed :hugs:Hope you get some more sleep and things settle for you a bit more. I agree with you on the small things - I love my showers, especially when I get to have one without a 2.5yo with me constantly getting me to refill his squirty fish and asking to have his hair washed.

OK enough dribble from me, might get an early night tonight and get some sleep while my back feels better.

saremc
09-11-2007, 19:49
Thanks for the words of wisdom i really need them i didnt realise how the hormones torment you after the birth. I seem to be copeing a bti better forgot to say i was in tears to DP at 4:30am this morning saying i dont want to BF anymore lol man now do i realise if it works it works and i would like to stick with it i just feel so stuffed and emotional. :gloomy:

Had a family friend come over for lunch (she bought everything over) but she kept touch Isabelle and talking really loud :hair: i wanted to knock her out Bella was asleep and i was wreaked grrr makes me sooo mad!!!! :yes:

Ahh thats bettter

Welcome mischief79 cant wait to hear more from you!

Catalyst chiro sounds good my back and neck are killing me, and foxtel oh so i can dream!

Well thats all from me all i can remember lol sorry if i missed anyone.

Have a good night and weekend everyone!!

Pebbles
09-11-2007, 22:14
Hi Girls

Well once again it has been ages since I have posted here. Tyson has been very unsettled for the past week. He finally did a poo on Sat after 7 days of screaming! I thought he would be better after that but he cries and cries and cries, it is so exhausting. I took him to doc for 6 week check-up and he apparently has 'colic'. He has been feeding two hourly and I have started 'combined feeding' so one feed is formula and the next is breast, but usually on the breast feeds I gotta top him up with formula anyway so I am gonna slowly wean him off breast all together. No point in continuing anyway considering one of my boobs is completely empty and doesnt produce milk anymore! So I am feeding from one boob now. I try to express from the other or get Tyson to suck on it for a bit to get the milk flowing but I only get a tiny amount when I express and Tyson gets grumpy when I put him on the boob that doesnt have much milk!
I have also just done one of those PND tests and apparently I have a mild case of PND. I reckon it is mainly coz of lack of sleep and the fact that Bub cries ALL day EVERY day but I have to 'look after myself' until he settles down and I start getting a bit more rest. I think I would have gone insane by now if I didnt have such a great hubby! By 5ish in the morn when I am ready to pass out from pure exhaustion DH takes bub into the lounge and gives me a break until he goes to work and as soon as he gets home from work he takes bub outside or into the other room and lets me have a lay on the couch and chill out for a bit.
Anyways I better get back to my screaming prince! I will try to get back on in next couple of days to do some personals.
Hope everybody is doing great.

sam's mum
10-11-2007, 08:42
Just a quick reply Pebbles - DD2 doesn't tolerate formula, at all.

when I was comp feeding she was irritable, if I gave her a feed of just formula she would be throwing up and crying for hours.

now that she is just on the boob, no more vomiting and a lot more settled.

I used motillium to get my supply and it worked very well and quite quickly.

something to think about....

laurannson
10-11-2007, 17:09
:wave: Hi all-hope everyone has had a good day!!!!!Got a few spare minutes so thought that I would do a quick post!!!!!
Sorry about lack of personals for quite a while now-very slack I know!!!!!
Well Samuel is doing well-unfortunately feeding 3 hourly overnight though,and although he does go back to sleep after each feed-it is pretty exhausting then having the other 3 kids to contend with during the day!!!!!:o
Caught a cat nap on the couch today though,so am starting to feel half human again!!!!!!!!!!:D
Took eldest daughter to her teeball game this morning with bubs which was nice,as I haven't done anything with her since Samuel was born,and she seemed pretty chuffed that I went.....very cute!!!!!
Looking froward to tomorrow when hubby has a day off-so the kids follow him around for the day instead of me!!!!!:laughing:
Hope everyone is well,and all bubs are behaving!!!!
Take care-hope to be back soon(ish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Cheers!

michblb
11-11-2007, 11:36
Hi

Well Charlie was a great bub last night, straight back to sleep after each feed...so hubby got a good night, :fingerscrossed: she does the same as I'm back on nights as of tonight. Had two great nights' sleep though - feel awesome!

One of my good friends who is due ths Wed, had some fluid leak so am waiting to hear if it
's her waters. Hope so can't wait to meet her baby boy - we even joke he and Charlie will get married and we'll be in-laws.:laughing:

Ok will try some personals....

zenifa - bugger that your back and neck are out, hope they get better soon and good point re change of clothes for us - will have to pack some soon.

Jillian - yeah funny how things like taking out the bin or doing shopping become interesting outings. Am so pleased the rain has stopped this week. Glad u got osme me time in and our cupboard sounds the same as yours....empty.

And - what a great sleep, really hope it keeps going for you!

Welcome to the thread Mischief79 look forward to chatting with u.

SeeJayElle - hope the B/F works for you sending you lots of :hugs: and hope the w/e is better.

Sara you sound like you need lots of :kiss: too, hope you are feeling better about things, your guest sounds so annoying and obviously doesn't have their own children, v rude!

Tammy - you poor darling, another one who needs many:hugs: . You must be so tired and at your wits end. Thankgod for DH, he sounds like an angel. Has the doc prescribed anythign for the colic? We started Charlie on infacol and she is a different baby, so much happier. I tried lots of other things gripwater, cooled boiled water, Infants' friend before we found one that worked. What about taking him to a gastro paed? Sorry you've prob tried most of this already. Hope ytou find something that works.

Laurannson - great that you will get a day off from the other kids - I don't know how you do it, up all night then entertain the troops during the day, no wonder you are tired. Some days I couldn't cope without my nannanap.

Jude - exciting tats and a piercing - am thinking about getting my bellybutton redone - cause it's closed over will see if I want no 2 first. Hope the ciro fixed your back - it sounds really stuffed, does stretching help at all? Yep I know what u mean, the other day I had spilt wine, spew, milk and god knows what else on my t-shirt but couldn't be bothered changing. Am sure the next step will be venturing outside in such wears ha ha Hope you got a great night's sleep - sleeping through is the best and enjoy your BBQ. After reading your post I'm starting to get excited about xmas too - it's different with kids, I think it will be even more exciting when they are aware of what xmas is. Oh and I reckon the best thing re foxtel are the reruns - there is now A-team, used to be my fav show as a kid, B-witched, I dream of Jeanie, X-files, Magnum PI, (I know showing my age now!!)

Oh heard from my friend and it was a false alarm, we're all guttered - c'mon buba!

And whoever suggested massaging the forehead to send their baby to sleep - great tip, it works like a treat.

Chat later.
Mich

Mammy
11-11-2007, 11:51
Hi all :wave:

Well bubs has been asleep for the last 2 hours which is unusual for her during the day, should have jumped on here earlier if id known she'd sleep so long!

Now i need a some advice from you guys...

DD has been a bit cranky over the past week, its so hard to know whats wrong with her. Im worried im not producing enough milk. When shes feeding she will take herself off the boob and cry and cry, so i put her back on then she sucks a bit, comes off and cries again. :hair: When i squeeze it, the milk squirts out so theres definatley more milk there.

Maybe shes getting too tired sucking and having to work for it and not getting enough milk and thats why shes cranky?
If shes not getting enough at each feed it could be the reason why she needs to feed so frequently, especially at night?

Do you guys think this could be right?

Im going to get a pump and express and give her a top up after the last feed at night, maybe then she will go longer between feeds.

Do you think its worth trying this?

Im also worried shes got wind/colic if shes so cranky, i cant remember the name of the medicine you guys talked about, can anyone help me out?
I just want to try everything to see why shes so cranky, hoping something works...

I feel so helpless listening to her crying and not being able to do anything about it :crying:

Mammy
11-11-2007, 12:15
Its been so long since i last posted, theres been pages and pages to catch up on...
Will try and attempt some personals...

Mich.. your bub sounds like an :angel:, good on her for letting you get a good nights sleep!

Jude... lucky you having your hubby on baby duty last night, how did it go?
Great news about Brion, you must be relieved. Christmas is going to be weird for us this year, it will be the second christmas ever that im not spending it at home with my family so for once im not really excited about it unfortunatley.:gloomy: Its going to be a very quite one this year, just me, DH and bubs... Usually i LOVE christmas!

Pebbles... i feel for you with the screaming baby issues, my DD is pretty bad at the moment too... :hugs: Its so draining...

Seejay... how did the BF go this weekend? Ive heard someone mention on here about taking the herb Fenugeek (sp?) to boost supply, also Motillium tabs which are normally perscribed for nausea/motion sickness.

Sare.. ive been feeling pretty emotional at times myself, its a huge life adjustment that we're going through so everything your feeling is totally normal! Have a good cry, it does help, ive had many over the last few weeks. Your definately not alone :hugs:

Lauranson... sounds like things are going great for you, well done! That sounds like a great weight gain for Samuel!

Zenifa... great photos, nice to put a face to the name!

I think Erin mentioned about sleeping in the spare room... ive been doing that during the week to give DH a proper nights sleep. We normally start off in the same room but after the 2am feed will transfer to the spare room and DD and i will sleep in the bed.

Cenni... im the same as you, finding it very hard to get the time go come on here so much. Not like the early days... Glad things are going well for you and little Penny.

Sorry if ive missed anyone...Hi to everyone else and hope your all well :wave:

Mammy
11-11-2007, 12:25
Thanks for your advice Cassie, your always so helpful.

I think you may be onto something with the burping. I usually only burp her at the end of each boob feed. Maybe i should be doing it more often, taking her off mid feed and burping her? Alot of the time she doesnt bring up any wind at all, is this bad? Maybe shes got trapped wind and thats why shes cranky...

saremc
11-11-2007, 13:23
Hi all :wave:

Well bubs has been asleep for the last 2 hours which is unusual for her during the day, should have jumped on here earlier if id known she'd sleep so long!

Now i need a some advice from you guys...

DD has been a bit cranky over the past week, its so hard to know whats wrong with her. Im worried im not producing enough milk. When shes feeding she will take herself off the boob and cry and cry, so i put her back on then she sucks a bit, comes off and cries again. :hair: When i squeeze it, the milk squirts out so theres definatley more milk there.

Maybe shes getting too tired sucking and having to work for it and not getting enough milk and thats why shes cranky?
If shes not getting enough at each feed it could be the reason why she needs to feed so frequently, especially at night?

Do you guys think this could be right?

Im going to get a pump and express and give her a top up after the last feed at night, maybe then she will go longer between feeds.

Do you think its worth trying this?

Im also worried shes got wind/colic if shes so cranky, i cant remember the name of the medicine you guys talked about, can anyone help me out?
I just want to try everything to see why shes so cranky, hoping something works...

I feel so helpless listening to her crying and not being able to do anything about it :crying:

Hey im going through the same thing with Isabelle she will cry and cry never seems full from a feed so yesterday we topped her up with some formular (didnt really want to but she needed it) but it worked its given time for my boobs to produce more milk and fill her up so she has a nice full tummy and get a good sleep. I really recon some of her sleeps were just from exhaustion . So tomorrow im going to go and get her weighed and then off to a LC coz something isnt right.

I really hope you find something that will even her out now Isabelle will sleep for four hours which was better than the short sleeps and feeds she was having. think you need some :hugs: as well.

Thanks everyone for the hugs i really need them i feel so silly but i feel like her not getting enough is my fault :gloomy: but steven and I are going to get it sorted out which is so realiving.

Well im off to have a nap while Bella is asleep im trying to nuge a cold away as well make me feel even more cr@p than normal lol.

Shakey
11-11-2007, 13:51
Thanks for your advice Cassie, your always so helpful.

I think you may be onto something with the burping. I usually only burp her at the end of each boob feed. Maybe i should be doing it more often, taking her off mid feed and burping her? Alot of the time she doesnt bring up any wind at all, is this bad? Maybe shes got trapped wind and thats why shes cranky...

I stop half a dosen times during a feed to burb, somtimes Alexis doesn't burb, but she does get cranky and grizzly when she does need to, have you tried all the ways to burp? getting her to sit leaning forward with straight back, while firm rubbing or gently patting? laying her on her tum on ya knees and firmly rubbing (pays to have a cloth of some sort to catch anything that comes out with that position) sitting her high above your shoulders while firm rubbing or gently patting, sitting her on your cheast while leaning back with firm rubbing or gently patting, there are many many ways to get wind up, some are better than others, I do a vaired positions untill something comes up, although sometimes nothing does,

Grizabella
11-11-2007, 22:38
I am like Jo - I vary the styles of burping. Some will work others won't just depends on the day and where the wind is trapped. If she is arching her back and or pulling her knees to her chest it is most likely wind. Otherwise they just cry, no arching or scrunching. Another way to get farts out is to lay her on her back and stretch her legs out straight very gently and then push her legs so her knees go to her tummy and put a little pressure - just a firm but gently push. Sometimes can help cos if it is their bowels it is harder to get out then if they need to burp.

I don't use infacol or anything cos it is supposed to be from 1 month unless your GP or paed recommends it. I use infants friend, it is like gripe water and safe to use at any age. Helps with sore tummies especially if they are a little farter like my two boys are/were.

BBQ was nice yesterday, was good to have visitors. Didn;t get my sleep cos Stu was flogged yesterday and I was wired and couldn't get to sleep so figured it wasn't fair to make him get up. Maybe next weekend LOL. I had a big nap this arvo though and Stu looked after the boys - so that was good.

Had some friends from the country come and visit today. Was really nice. Their first son is 6 months older then Brion and they have a little girl too who is a yr older then Toran. Another friend came round for dinner tonight so that was good. It is Stu's guitarist - so they are in the studio doing muso stuff atm LOL

Hope everyone is well - I have a CHN visit tomorrow, plus an appt with the GP, should be going on my meds soon - really looking forward to that. Brion has a Speechie appt on Tues too. So busy beginning of the week for us.

dansta10000
12-11-2007, 07:57
Morning Gals

Long time since ive been on.

COngrats to all the oct/nov mummies.

Well im still attached to a vac dressing machine and my ceasar wound is still very much open but im healing nicely and maybe it can come off in a week or so. Still cant drive and always nned help at home but im on the mend so hopefully not long to go, has been a tough road but isabel makes it all worth it.

Isabel is doing really well to and is now 8pound 6onces she was 6 pound 1 ounce when she was born.

Will read a few pages of the thread and catch up bit.

But fo rnow im going down for a nap as Isabel i a asleep and i need my rest too.

Have a good morning

Luv Dan

zenifa
12-11-2007, 08:12
Hi everyone!!! Hope you all had a great weekend!!
Can't believe Ximena is 6 weeks old!!

We had a great weekend, we were pretty busy, DH and I were a team trying to clean the house, cook up food and keep the 2 girls entertained, but we did it. On Sat, we had DH's parents, bro and wife over for lunch which was great. We were trying to sort out plans for Xmas and also start organising our Vanuatu holiday for next year. (DH and his family lived in Vanuatu when he was a kid and we're planning a holiday there and may spend part of that with the family). On Sunday we had DH's work mate and his wife come over, it was great, DH did all the cooking, so I could just focus on tidying and the kids. It was a pretty relaxing day.
Like some of you, I am starting to get excited about Xmas, still have some present shopping to do, but most of it is done, will be fun esp X's 1st Xmas!!

DD2's feeding and sleeping is going okay, during the day its a bit hit and miss, it can seem like she is feeding almost constantly and just napping - wanting to be held and only having short bursts in the snuggle bed/rocker. Hoping this is just due to a growth spurt. At night she is still up usually 4hrly, but occasionally does 5-6hrs but then her next sleep will only be 3hrs. She has also been a bit windy lately, so I also do lots of different type of burping positions and have also expressed the foremilk off each breast before a feed, which seems to help. She is still not taking to the bottle, so my hope of getting 8 hrs uninterrupted sleep didn't happen (probably to DH's relief). Last attempt at giving her bottled EBM meant that she only drank 10mls in an hour!! She doesn't like bottles or dummies only mummy's booby!

Jude - hope all your appts goes well this week.

Sara - :hugs: to you, hope you can get all this sorted out and are feeling better soon!!

Anne - any time bubs comes off the breast, crying or cranky, its worth trying some gentle burping. I remember advice I got from my cousins' wife when I had DD1 was that 'you can never burp them enough' so give that a go. Sounds like your milk supply is good, so express some of the foremilk or burp after each breast or sooner if she comes off crying.

Welcome back Dansta, hope you continue to heal well and glad that Isabel is doing so well!!

Sorry for no more personals, need to get myself and the girls ready, as I'm going to see CHN and get DD2 weighed!! Will be back later!!

laurannson
12-11-2007, 10:38
Hi all-hope everyone had a good(restful!!!)weekend!!!
MooMoo-like everyone else has said-I burp Samuel(and all the other tribe!!)often during a feed,and vary the positions as well!!Everyone has given great advice on all these positions,and I also alternate if 1 doesn't seem to be getting up his wind!!!!
Getting bub weighed as well,always puts my doubts of not enough supply away,as I always worry that they aren't getting enough,cause I can't see or measure it(must be the nurse in me!!!!!)

Zenifa-you are a legend-how do you fit so much into each day,and stay so happy and cheery!!!!?!!?

Jude-good luck with all the appts. this week-especially today in this heat-39c.....yuk!!!!!

Dansta-good luck with your wound healing soon-Isabel sounds like she is thriving!!!

Saremc-hope the LC is helpful for you,go
od on you for going to see someone!!!!:fingerscrossed: you get some more sleep soon!

Cenni-hope you had a good weekend-and got to the shops!!!Hope it has stopped raining over your way,long enough for you to get a walk in-I know what you mean about being housebound some days-can drive you up the wall!!!!!

AnD05-glad to hear all is going well-hope Finlay has kept up with his good sleeps!!!

Hi Mischief79-hope to chat to you more-what a great size your bub was!!!!!!

Seejayelle-hope your weekend went well,and the breast feeding has got easier-it is soooo stressful when they don't want to play the game hey-who ever said breastfeeding comes naturally-this is my 4th time around and I am only just starting to feel comfortable with it now!!!!!

Well Samuel is waking up-3 hours on the dot-could set my watch to him!!!!!
Had a great day yesterday-DH amused the other 3 kids all day,so I had a sleep in ,and a nannanap at lunch time-even got to catch up on some ironing!!!!!!So feel ready for another week-bring it on!!!!!
Hope everyone has a good day!
Cheers!

Cenni
12-11-2007, 11:26
Hi Everyone,

Penny had a great night and great morning today after an unsettled day yesterday-she wouldnt sleep unless DP or I were holding her.
We took her out to lunch with my family and she slept on and off while we were there, then once home she wasnt happy however she also had moments where she was just bright eyed and enjoying looking at us while we cuddled her.
Finally she slept and fed and slept excellent last night and this morning.

YAY the rain has stopped, I do love the rain but really needed to get out for a walk, and Penny and I did this morning it was great.

I was so emotional yesterday whether it be that Penny was unsettled or just horomones but I cried a few times and had a whinge to DP about everything, feeling better today.

Grizabella
12-11-2007, 13:03
Hey guys - CHN visit went well, Toran is going great guns, is 5kgs so has put on almost a kilo since birth. He has also started to coo which she says doesn't normally start happening til 6 weeks approx. Clever little guy :) Also he likes tummy time! Who would have thunk it - Brion hated it! Have decided to give the new mum group a go in a cple weeks, see if the mums in my area are nice - if not no stress - just won't go back LOL.

michblb
12-11-2007, 14:46
Hi all

Just a quick post, only a couple of personals so sorry if I miss anyone.

Cass, you poor thing, sending you lots of :hugs: Although it sounds so frustrating hopefully all of this will mean you find out what the problem is. What formula are they recommending now? Yuk what a horrible thing to have to collect.:eek:

Moomoo - Cass is right re the anti-wind stuff, some work for some bubs and others don't. I did alot of research on BH and the net but in the end tried 4 different types. Infacol was the best for Charlie, they don't absorb it but the ingrediant surfactant causes all the small air bubbles to combine into a big one - makes them into super farters and burpers. Infants' friend was also ok. Grip water didn't work for me or cooled boiled water. But just try them- the next one I was going to get if Infacol didn't work was Brauer anti-colic which is all natural and alot of people recommend that one too. Best of luck with it.

Dansta - good to hear from you and pleased you are healing, it's been a long road to recovery for you but glad Isabel is doing well.

Jude - excellent wait gain and yeah for tummy time, Charlie likes it too. From about 4 weeks she's lifted her head up and is v strong

Jillian - am pleased the rain has stopped too and glad you are having a better day today.

Laurannson - excellent you got in so much sleep, yeah for DH!

Zenifa - bugger you didn't get a full night but it sounds like you had a good weekend anyway. Can't believe how much you managed to pack in - amazing.

Good to hear everyone going well,

Well forgot to mention last post - went back to the gym on Sat , just did bike, rower, cross trainer and sit ups. Felt really good but then blew it by stopping in at macers for chicken nuggets. (Got my period and bad cravings ATM!) Did food shopping on Sunday, which I now enjoy as I get out of the house without Charlie.

Last night was ok, she's waking every 3 hours between feeds, which is annoying because up until the 4 week mark it was 4 hours at night so am trying to get her to take the full 150mls so she'll sleep longer but she's usually too tired to finish her bottle, even after I try everything to wake her!

Graduate from my study program on Thursday so Matt is staying home with Charlie as it's an all day thing. Looking forward to it.

Guess I should go empty the dishwasher and get dressed.....Hope everyone is having a good day.

Hm not such a quick post after all huh???

zenifa
12-11-2007, 16:08
I'm back now after a rough morning. Got the girls ready and headed off to see CHN, as soon as we arrived, DD2 did a MASSIVE poo so I had to change her clothes as well as her nappy :barf: We had a little wait although there were only 3 people in front of us, and this tested DD1's patience. DD2 weighed in at 5.3kg, so she put on 400g last week, my little boobie monster. Then we quickly popped into the shop to get some supplies which went okay.
Once home, both kids just went off!! I found it hard to cope and get anything done eg unloaded the groceries, hanging out one little load of kids washing, and then trying to get dinner on in the slow cooker, dishes etc. DD1 was misbehaving, resisting lunch and a nap:banghead: , while DD2 was crying whenever I wasn't holding or feeding or changing her :hair: .
Things finally settled down a bit, eventually DD1 went for a nap, and I coslept with DD2 to get her down for a nap (must be a growth spurt or a greedy bub, she is feeding CONSTANTLY today) and I had 1hr nap and now DD1 is up again. I just have felt tired and am just not handling it well today.

Also I got a ph message and email from my old boss today..........they are super busy, still having trouble replacing me and want to know if I'm interested in coming back to help them out a bit?:eek: They are flexible and offering me two half days/week. What do you guys think? I guess it could be possible after the New Year, with DD1 in childcare and have my mum look after DD2, by then she could manage 4hrs without a feed? Umm.. I dunno, can't really think straight today, will sleep on it and discuss with DH.

AnD05
12-11-2007, 18:38
Hi ladies,

Well its been an interesting few days here. On Sat DH, DS and I ventured to Bunbury (the next big town) to go shopping. I didnt think this would affect DS so much as all he does is eat /sleep/ look around, all of which he was able to do wherever we are....well do you think he would sleep?! Nope. He only cat napped the whole day, throw in some screaming (DH found out how hard it was to push a pram, shop and carry a screaming newborn around :laughing: ) and we had one very over tired little man on hands by the evening. We actually went to a friends house to try and watch a movie. Well between our DS spitting it and their DS being bathed & put to bed, it took us around 6 hrs to watch it :laughing: . Then when were trying to eat dinner DS kept us entertained with his lungs. So we gave up and came home. I fed him and he konked it! He slept from 9pm-330am, fed and went straight back to sleep (normally he fusses about for a bit). Anyway, I then spent Sunday recovering!!

I really hope he learns to sleep better when we are out as I don't want to become house bound but I really don't like going out with him screaming!

Today he has been quite whingy after his feeds too but once asleep he has had good naps. He seems to feed/burp then wants to fall asleep upright on my shoulder, as soon as I put him down on his back he screams so naughty me put him on his tummy this morning :shame: and within 5ish mins he was :sleeping: . I have done this with his other 2 naps and its seems to work so we will see how long that lasts!

MooMoo - Yup I am similar to you, DS crankier than normal this last couple of days and I have just been doing as the girls suggested with the burping. They are a clever bunch this lot! I tried Infacol when he was 3 weeks then stopped as I wasn't sure if it was helping. I think I am going to try him on it again as now I think it did help?! A g/f also suggested me drinking Fennel tea, again, don't think that helped DS but it could work for you? Good luck with your DD

Zenifa - Sorry to hear you had a crappy day, hope you get a chance to recover. Great to hear about DD2s great weight gain, its so reassuring isnt it when you know they are doing so well! Wonderful to hear your weekend went so well too!

Mich - Yeah for graduating!! How exciting, hope you have a lovely day!! Feeding every 3 hrs, geez Im so lucky I normally only have to get up once during the night! OMG you are back at the gym, you are too good! I am so peeved at the moment as I have no clothes that fit, would go and buy some but getting to the shops is quite hard these day.....:detective:

Catalyst - Yeah for Torans weight gain and love of tummy time!! Everything sounds like it is going so much better for you...so it should too, you've had a pretty rough trot lately!

Cenni - Glad you had a better day with Penny today. Feeling ya on the emotional day stuff too - Lucky DH is so understanding & helpful!

Cassie - Oh you poor thing. You really are having a hard time with little Afrika. At least they are trying to find out what is wrong. Fingers crossed they figure it out quick smart and there is something you can do to help you and her. The lack of sleep just makes it all worse too. I really hope DH is home soon to give you a break. Take care hun :hugs: (easier said than done I know). And you don't need to apologize about the whinge, just wish there was more we could do.

Laurannson - Glad to hear you got to catch up on some rest yest, really makes a differance doesnt it!

Dansta - Great to hear from you! So glad things are healing up well and that DD is doing so well. Take care!

Ok, this post is sooo much longer than I thought it would be! Sorry!! Actually didnt think I would get this far without DS waking up for his dinner! Have a gf coming over in the morning with her 11mth old so that will be lovely to catch up. Then on Wed I have my first Mothers group! Im really looking forward to it as I know a couple of the girls from antenatal class. Also helps knowing we are not alone going through this!

Well enough blah blah from me, hope everyone well!

A

Mammy
12-11-2007, 21:39
Thanks guys for all the tips on burping positions. I bought the infacol drops but she did two big spews after feeding both times i gave them to her so they didnt work for us. I think those Paediatrician's could be right Cassie...
Shes still whingey today, wanting to be held and fed all the time. I was so glad when DH got home at 5 to give me a break. I couldnt get anything done today and was dying to have a shower, I get so sweaty from breastfeeding.

Sare... How did the weighing go today? Did you get to see the L.C?

Dansta... good to see you back. Wow you have been through alot with your ceasar and seem to have coped so well, well done. Isabel sounds like shes thriving too.

Zenifa... Wow thats a great weight gain for your little boobie monster! Have you had your 6 week check up or paed visit yet? About going back to work, you must have been surprised that they're asking you back so soon, hmmm hard decision to make... I guess if its only a four hour day then that would be managable leaving DD with your MIL, you can always have some EBM handy. If it was me i dont know what i would do... I would love to have some outlet from the everyday ding dong of motherhood but at the same time it would be hard leaving DD...... then again if its only for 4 hours then thats not so bad. Anyway im sure you and your DH will work out whats best.
Your DD2's day routine sounds just like mine! :hair: Joy oh joy!!

Cassie... poor you and poor little Afrika, your definately not having a smooth run of it :hugs: Really hope they find out quick what the problem is. Hope you got to have a swim today and that Logan behaved himself for you! :angel:

Cenni... its so hard when they're unsettled and just cry and cry. Sophie was like this last night at 3 am, she was awake for nearly 3 hours :hair: Nothing i could do was settling her, im not looking forward to tonight...

Mich...Thanks for the advice about the colic meds. The homeopatic one sounds good, will give that a go as the infacol didnt work for us.
Good on you for getting back to the gym. Have to wait till my 6 week check up to get the all clear. Well thats my excuse anyway... :D Cant use that one for much longer...

Jude... great weight gain! Have only tried Sophie with tummy time once but she didnt like it... must give it another go.

AnD... i had a shopping trip like yours one dayand i was by myself, it sure is a struggle trying to manage pram, screaming baby and shopping bags! Normally she sleeps really well in her pram but that was not a good day...
Thanks for the tip on Fennel tea, will get some :thumbsup:

saremc
12-11-2007, 22:22
Hey Girls

Well went to the LC today she said Bella is aattaching properly and she seems to be feeding well and can just put her feeds down to demand and growth aparantly all is normal for a newborn. I felt ok with this but it is definatly getting to me making me a bit depressed :gloomy: (made the lactating cookies and seem to be eating them like they are going out of fashion) just need to get used to having another person in our lives that is so demanding.

Also got her weighed she is now 3.5kgs 7lb which is great that made me reasured that she was getting enough milk. Now all we have to do is keep chuggin im such a worrier DP is going back to work on Thursday and am in a panic about him going to work so tired and me being left alone. Oh well it will get better i just have to hang in there really dont know what i would do with out DP he cares so much and you guys BH is just great.

MooMoo - totaly agree with the sweaty deal i have a bit of a cold which makes it so uncomfortable.

zenifa - :hugs: to you dont stress about work atm get this year over with then think about it. Just make sure you make the right decision oh man im a worrier lol

laurannson - thanks im so gla i swallowed it up and did see some one made it all seem easier and made me a bit calmer.

Mitch - Great to hear about graduating hope you have a great time Congratulations.

Well that is most of it from me sorry if i missed anyone, although i do have one question for those who are BF ho do you do it at night? I have so much trouble staying awake and the LC told me lying down and co sleeping is good but im not sure if it is a good idea at night i do it when she has a bit sleep ing the after noon so i can get a nap in :banghead: so much to think about.

Will hopefully get time at some stage to do my birth story and work out how to post pictures.

Hope everyone is doing well! :wave:

TeamAwesome
13-11-2007, 04:01
Zenifa - good luck with that decision. Definitely talk to your DH about it and do what's right for you and your family.

AnD - Don't feel bad about putting him on his tummy to sleep. Ty slept on his tummy from 5/6 days and Angelina has sleeping on her tummy since she was 3 days old. Both of them had/have strong necks and could turn their heads so I wasn't concerned and they both slept/sleep great in that position. Not all bubs will sleep well in the SIDS approved position, Angie only naps on her back vs a good few hours sleep on her tummy.

Saremc- I co-sleep for part of the night whatever feed comes after I go to bed she gets brought in with me and I generally fall asleep so it means I get some more sleep in, then the next feed she goes back into her own bed cos I want her to be able to sleep well in her own bed not just mine.

Mich - congrats on graduating and yay for a whole day out.

a quick update from us, Ty, Angelina and I are over our Impetigo but Libby now has it so she's on antibiotics for hers. Angelina is doing great with her feeds and sleeps and now has a couple of times a day where she is wide awake and very alert which I love as it's not actually around dinner time like my other two were at this age.

well I should go back to bed my adorable little people have decided that sometime between 4.30-5.30 is a great time to wake up and this is my last chance to sleep through it as Aden leaves tomorrow morning to go back to work.

zenifa
13-11-2007, 09:09
Good morning ladies!!
Many thanks to those of you who replied with supportive thoughts, it really helps, especially when you have a crappy day. I did have some fun yesterday arvo with DD1, we made and decorated cupcakes, which was very messy but lots of fun (should try and post a pic of DD1) - we're taking them to playgroup today for morning tea and also some for tomorrow's playdate.
I'm feeling more positive today, we'll see how the day pans out. I spoke to DH about the job offer and he isn't keen for me to do any work for a while. I got some new teats when I saw the CHN yesterday, but DD2 still isn't keen on the bottle at all!! Took nearly an hour to have 10mls, I gave up and she hoovered the milk out of both boobies (they were very full too!!) in 20 mins and then slept for 5 hours!!
I guess if DD2 can't take the bottle then it will make it harder for me to work, and originally when I went on maternity leave, DH and I decided it would be til bubs turned 1, so we'll see. I won't decide until next year anyway, need to see how the $$ are doing and need to see how DD1 settles into her 2 days of childcare as well. The job offer really threw me as I wasn't expecting that for a few months yet and I guess I am a bit of people pleaser who finds it hard to say no, luckily DH can step in and go 'are you nuts? going to work when bubs is 3 mths old?':laughing:

Nat - glad to hear the impetigo is on its way out, hopefully Libby will be over it soon!!

Mich - Congratulations on Graduating!! Enjoy the celebrations, you deserve it!

Sara - sounds like you are doing a great job with Bella and try not to stress too much (that will definately affect your milk supply), good luck for Thursday, I am sure you will do fine with DP back at work. Yes the newborn is very demanding and try to hang in there, it does get better esp when your baby can interact with you, smile etc. The bf does get less demanding as they get older, sounds like your LC was reassuring.
re: cosleeping - I cosleep with DD2 in the afternoons, when I try to have a nap and she wants to feed, so that way I can have a lie down and bf and then :fingerscrossed: we can both get a sleep. I find bf lying down can be easier at times, once you get your position and are comfortable, its great. Give it a go during the day and see how it goes. I also do it in the morning at her 6am feed, so I can get a bit more sleep (this morning I got an extra hour til 7am yay :yelclap: ). I dont' do it at night, as there isn't much room with DH there and DD2 can be noisy at night - cooing, chortling, grunting, groaning etc.

Anne - I am hearing you, sounds like our days are in synch. DD2 can have a sleep in the morning (7.30-11.30am) and then in the afternoon from 2 or 3 til 6 or 7pm, but between midday and 2pm its a constant feed/change/hold me routine. Doesn't sound too bad but some days it can feel like all I did was hold her, feed her/burp her and change her. Its hard to have a shower or even get breakfast or lunch. Like you I am happy when DH arrives home so he can help out and give me a break!
I have my 6 week paed appt next week, and my 6 week OB check up next week too - well actually its at 7 weeks. Yes if anything I have an abundance of milk, poor DD2 nearly chokes at my fast flow, so that is one reason why I have to express at times, or she is just covered in it (face, clothes, plus my clothes too).

Anna - sorry to hear you had such a hard day out with Finlay. Often bubs can get unsettled when they are out and get overtired, so all their feeds and sleeps get out of whack and it can take days for you and the bubs to recover and get back to 'normal routine'.
Although it seems like I do lots, I try to only go out either in the morning or afternoon and keep the time out of the house short, so it doesn't get DD2 too overtired, overstimulated etc and so we can keep the feeding/sleeping under control, well try to anyway. I agree though, you don't want to be housebound and it does get easier as they get older (as long as they like sleeping in the pram/stroller and car seat - which for some kids can be hard after 6mths), well its good from 3-6mths from my experience last time. Don't worry too much about putting him on his tummy - as long as its for short naps and you are keeping an eye on him its okay. I did that with DD1, as she was happiest on her tum, but I didnt' do it at night.

Okay better go and get ready for playgroup. Will try to pop back in later!! Bye!!

erinp
13-11-2007, 10:00
Hi all,

Just a quick post to catch up, I've been checking in but not posting as it's usually when I'm feeding and don't have enough hands to type!

Hannah is going so well, she's a really happy bub and quite content. Still getting 6 hours at night and when she wakes she doesn't even cry, just plays in her cradle on her own making a bit of noise. Though I am usually bursting by that point so get her up to feed for my relief!! Weighed in yesterday at 4.9kg, so nearly 2kgs in 5.5weeks!! I have a little boobie monster too :D


Also I got a ph message and email from my old boss today..........they are super busy, still having trouble replacing me and want to know if I'm interested in coming back to help them out a bit?:eek: They are flexible and offering me two half days/week. What do you guys think? I guess it could be possible after the New Year, with DD1 in childcare and have my mum look after DD2, by then she could manage 4hrs without a feed? Umm.. I dunno, can't really think straight today, will sleep on it and discuss with DH.

If this were me, I'd have a good chat with DH and see. I would quite enjoy a little bit of work, but not too much. And we could definitely use the $! I guess you and DH will decide on whatever works best for your family.


Well its been an interesting few days here. On Sat DH, DS and I ventured to Bunbury (the next big town) to go shopping. I didnt think this would affect DS so much as all he does is eat /sleep/ look around, all of which he was able to do wherever we are....well do you think he would sleep?! Nope. He only cat napped the whole day, throw in some screaming (DH found out how hard it was to push a pram, shop and carry a screaming newborn around :laughing: ) and we had one very over tired little man on hands by the evening. We actually went to a friends house to try and watch a movie. Well between our DS spitting it and their DS being bathed & put to bed, it took us around 6 hrs to watch it :laughing: . Then when were trying to eat dinner DS kept us entertained with his lungs. So we gave up and came home. I fed him and he konked it! He slept from 9pm-330am, fed and went straight back to sleep (normally he fusses about for a bit). Anyway, I then spent Sunday recovering!!


We had a bad night last Friday where Hannah cried and cried, we were at my SIL's place which made it hard, too, getting 'advice' from her....anyway - Hannah slept through for 8.5 hours once we came home and she settled - I think they wear themselves out!!


Well that is most of it from me sorry if i missed anyone, although i do have one question for those who are BF ho do you do it at night? I have so much trouble staying awake and the LC told me lying down and co sleeping is good but im not sure if it is a good idea at night i do it when she has a bit sleep ing the after noon so i can get a nap in :banghead: so much to think about.


For our last feed at night (usu between 10-11pm) I feed lying down in bed and Hannah usually falls asleep, then I put her in the cradle. Then she wakes around 4-5am and I change her nappy, then get her into bed and feed lying down again. This way, I feel more rested and if she doesn't settle in her cradle afterwards (or if I fall asleep!) we co-sleep until her next feed around 7-8am. I find feeding lying down means you're getting far more rest than having to sit up - and still fall asleep!! Maybe try some different ways and you will find what works for you.

PLease excuse my slack lack of personals.....about to head out the door shortly. But I do want to say sorry to hear some of you are not having the best time, sending :hugs: to those of you who need them.

SJE
13-11-2007, 12:19
We may not post much but when we do they are worth the wait:D

Erinp - Its great Hannah is such a lovely little bub. They all have their less lovely moments though!

Zenifa - It appears the decision about going back to work has been made for you. It would be tempting though and would be nice to be wanted/appreciated.

Cenni - Most of us seem to have good and bad days - it seems we are not free of the hormones yet

The weekend wasnt the miracle I hoped for. Bubs wont feed properly on the breast.
She is still getting the benefit of EBM for most of her feeds (we give formula at night to have bigger gaps)
I have pretty much given up on the attachment thing. We may try every now and then but thats about it. Bubs has gotten used to the fast flow of the bottle. Anything other than this and she just gets upset.
I'll keep expressing for as long as I can and maybe motillum will help with that.

BBL to do some more personals- Its getting late and I should pump - moo:laughing:

mischief79
13-11-2007, 12:58
Hi October Mummies....

I started to write my first msg last week and things got out of control!! It's just started to get warm in Adelaide and DD Katelyn just can't figure it out. We've got the air-con going cos its late 20's/early 30's but I think she can sense something. Maybe she's ready to go swimming!! (not yet...) Until now she's been great. Cat naps all day with one 2hour sleep and at least a 5 hour block at night. Hardly cries, loves cuddles, not whingy when she's changed or anything..... but now? Screams for about 15 minutes before bed, nothing consoles her.... she's clean, dry, fed, burped, cuddled, all the good stuff, and still the screams. Not cries, big open mouther screams! All I can think is that it's the weather and the air-con feels funny to her. Suggestions? I'm getting stressed out at bed time and she can feel it. DH is no help there, he's more lost than I am and feels kinda useless.

On a happy note, we had our CHN home visit last week cos I still can't drive to get there myself, and she's put on 600g in 3 weeks. Happy about that. Last Wed she weighed 5040g. I'd heard a few horror stories about the CHN people, but the lady that came was lovely. She didn't have the best advice (told me to stop demand feeding and push out to 3hrs, I just feed when she wants it at the moment, which is sometimes every 1.5 hrs.), but she was very nice.

Have any of you had any luck with routines? Is it too early to start now? Maybe not a good idea with all the cat naps, she just naps when she wants during the day.

A bit about me: I'm 28 and I've been married for 3 years. DH and I tried for a baby for 2.5 years, and were booked in to a fertility clinic. the weekend before our appointment, I had a funny feeling, went and peed on a stick, and two faint lines came up!!
I'm a SAHM for the next year while I'm on maternity leave, and then I'll think about going back part time. I enjoy my job and don't want to leave permanently, but I can't even think about leaving her yet!
We have 2 cats, Mischief (!!) and Tigger who are a bit put out at the moment. They went from being spoilt rotten to sleeping on the couch. Getting there though.

Time to try and squeeze in a shower during this cat nap.

xx

Shakey
13-11-2007, 13:04
Afternoon everyone, i've just managed to get DD to sleep, she has this thing where she HAS to be wrapped to go to sleep, and if she gets her arms out she wakes herself up 2 seconds after dropping off so I have to re wrap her,

SeeJayElle sorry to hear your weekend wasn't as planned, I don't really have anything to suggest to get her feeding off the boob, apart from my theory that you only offer the boob and nothing else, she'll eventually take, well thats what I did with DD to get her feeding on my left side, it would take her a good half hour to latch on, but she go there, now she latches on in 2 seconds, thats what I did to get her to breast feed, cause she was tube fed at first, I just offered myself first and after 30 odd mins would then tube feed her, eventually she would take and the amount of time to latch became shorter and shorter

zenifa sounds like bubs has made the decision for you with going back to work, some babies just don't like the bottle, how many different teats have you tried? there is one you can get in NZ that is exactly like the nipple, but I dont know if you can get it here, its soft and squishy and flexable just like our boobs, i'll find the name of it for ya cause it might be worth a try

antlmummy glad you guys are over the school sores, bummer libby has got it now though,

saremc great weight gain your little one has done, you've got good moo juice there, as for the laying down when feeding, it is quite relaxing, and if your worried about falling asleep I wouldn't worry about it, I usually get out of bed and go to the lounge and watch tv when I feed, that way i dont' fall asleep,

well thats all for now, best I go and get some food in me while the going is good, DD is finally asleep :smiliedance: got to get her up in another hour for a feed though, so best I get moving

hope you all have a great day

Shakey
13-11-2007, 13:07
Hi mischief79, welcome to our thread

as for routeins i've already got DD in one, well she had one from day one from being in the SCN for 3 and a bit weeks, I don't think its too early to put them in one, but its all up to you

saremc
13-11-2007, 14:50
Zenifa - thanks for the tips on co - sleeping i think we will try the one in the afternoon and the two morning feeds. Its hard sometimes as she gets a bit excited and just plays with my nipple really anoying when all i want is for her to just attach!

SeeJay - have you found a drop in your Milk supply, we have done the formular thing and i definatly gives a bigger sleep gap but im worried that my milk supply will drop. How often do you express and when is the best time to?? Ohh im so lost.

mischief79 - Hi welcome again lol my name is Sarah 21 with a two week old Isabelle and one very proud daddy (they are so cute to watch). :hugs: sorry you have been having a bad time but it does seem like all is going well for bub great weight gain, great to hear how you got pregnant very kool!

Gizmo - i have come to the decicion that i will go to the spare bed and put on a movie and try and stay awake.

Well had a pretty good night last night i feel more rested and I even got to go out for just under an hour while DP was at home with bella (thank goodness we had some formular left she is out like a light) i feel rested but will be gettting in a nap after i cook some cookies.

On that note sorry if i missed anyone with personals hope you are all going well! better go and do soem cooking yummie

SJE
13-11-2007, 16:14
SeeJayElle sorry to hear your weekend wasn't as planned, I don't really have anything to suggest to get her feeding off the boob, apart from my theory that you only offer the boob and nothing else, she'll eventually take, well thats what I did with DD to get her feeding on my left side, it would take her a good half hour to latch on, but she go there, now she latches on in 2 seconds, thats what I did to get her to breast feed, cause she was tube fed at first, I just offered myself first and after 30 odd mins would then tube feed her, eventually she would take and the amount of time to latch became shorter and shorter


Is bubs screaming for that entire 1/2 hr? if so sedatives may be required for me. It is very stressful to listen and watch a screaming bub. I'd rather wax my bikini line:D

How do you keep bubs calm?:detective:

Shakey
13-11-2007, 16:19
Is bubs screaming for that entire 1/2 hr? if so sedatives may be required for me. It is very stressful to listen and watch a screaming bub. I'd rather wax my bikini line:D

How do you keep bubs calm?:detective:

that is why they use screaming crying babies when someone is torturing you to get info out of ya in war etc

umm yeah she cried and grizzled the whole time, when she started screaming blue murder thats when I gave up for that feed, no point trying to force a baby to do something when they are horribly upset, its just all persiverance, but if you decided to stick with the bottle don't feel bad, cause in the end what matters is that bubs is getting fed, and we all know a happy baby means a happy mummy :thumbsup:

hehe I just re read my first post and man i talk in circles lol

oh another thing, maybe try when she's most relaxed, wake her up a little bit earlier for her feed, or do it right after a nice calming bath

mischief79
13-11-2007, 16:22
MrsGreene...Is that serious about the rum??

Shakey
13-11-2007, 16:47
Syringe 1ml of rum down their throat half hour before feed time :laughing:

Vodka works better :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Shakey
13-11-2007, 16:50
Gizmo - i have come to the decicion that i will go to the spare bed and put on a movie and try and stay awake.

good idea, another thing I do is browse internet auction sites while feeding lol, it definatly keeps me awake lol, all thoes cool things I can buy lol

zenifa
13-11-2007, 16:53
Cassie - I wouldn't worry about your rum comment. My grandmother had 10 children and she told me that she used to give her kids poppy tea (remember opium etc is derived from poppies) so the kids would sleep as babies (bear in mind this is in a communist run eastern bloc country 60 yrs ago)..........I mean none of us would give our kids heroin to get to sleep, but you get my point ....parents have given their kids stuff medicinally to calm them for a long time, and it was considered 'natural' and the norm to do so.

Jo - I've tried the Happy Baby, standard bottle teat and the pigeon peristaltic nipple which is very flexible like a nipple (recommended by CHN) but DD2 is just not keen on anything except mummy's boob ...... so looks like DH won't be doing any o'night feeds for a while.

For those on routines, do you mind sharing it with us? Just curious, I do the feed play and sleep and try to have bubs up for feeds 4hrly but in reality I just bf on demand and go with the flow, so I'm interested to see what others are doing with bubs similar ages,

Mischief79 - great to see you back here and thanks for sharing your info, so what sort of job did you do pre-baby? Sounds like it is all going pretty well with you.

Sorry if I've missed anyone.
My day has been okay today - both girls did massive poos before we left the house, so we were late but better for that to happen at home than out!!Playgroup went well, DD2 was awake and alert and I fed her and she did well and I also managed to keep DD1 out of mischeif. It always gets a bit hectic at home, but I did manage to get X to sleep in the cot for an hour!! I dont' know if its the 6 week growth spurt or developmental stage but DD2 is definately more alert during the day, hope I can get her having some regular naps. She just seems to need to be fed or held constantly!! Gotta go, DD1 is now pulling me away from the pc. Bye!!

SJE
13-11-2007, 16:54
Saremc - My routine - Pumping/massage/manual expression ( in that order after every feed (except the night feeds)Make sure boobies are completely empty. Do about 5 or 6x a day. (Supply not dropping with this atm). - btw I'm typing one handed - the other is pumping :o

Mischief79 - Another Adelaide girl - woohoo!

Shakey
13-11-2007, 17:00
Cassie - I wouldn't worry about your rum comment. My grandmother had 10 children and she told me that she used to give her kids poppy tea (remember opium etc is derived from poppies) so the kids would sleep as babies (bear in mind this is in a communist run eastern bloc country 60 yrs ago)..........I mean none of us would give our kids heroin to get to sleep, but you get my point ....parents have given their kids stuff medicinally to calm them for a long time, and it was considered 'natural' and the norm to do so.

hehe, my dad used to give us beer to put us to sleep when we were babies, only a drop or two aparently, maybe thats why i'm a little bit lala now :laughing: :laughing:


Jo - I've tried the Happy Baby, standard bottle teat and the pigeon peristaltic nipple which is very flexible like a nipple (recommended by CHN) but DD2 is just not keen on anything except mummy's boob ...... so looks like DH won't be doing any o'night feeds for a while.

hmm that sucks, ya never know, one day she just might take the bottle, DS was a boob man, at 6mths old I decided to put him on the bottle and he was having none of that, so I had to offer him just the bottle and nothing else, it took a good day or 2 before he took a full bottle without throwing a hissy



For those on routines, do you mind sharing it with us? Just curious, I do the feed play and sleep and try to have bubs up for feeds 4hrly but in reality I just bf on demand and go with the flow, so I'm interested to see what others are doing with bubs similar ages

When I first brought Alexis home I did exactly what they were doing at the hospital cause I wasn't allowed to demand feed at first, that was get up, change nap, feed and straight back down again, a week or so ago I decided to kinda demand feed a little, so now its get up, change bum, feed, have a little talk if she's happy and content after feeding, and then bed, but sometimes we just skip the play/talk and go straight to bed,

Shakey
13-11-2007, 17:04
SeeJay - have you found a drop in your Milk supply, we have done the formular thing and i definatly gives a bigger sleep gap but im worried that my milk supply will drop. How often do you express and when is the best time to?? Ohh im so lost.

the best thing to do when your doing formula feeds is express when you give the formula, so technically your body doesn't think its missed a feed and decide to not make as much milk IYKWIM, and like SeeJayElle said, when you do express make sure you drain it dry :thumbsup:

Shakey
13-11-2007, 20:23
I took Alexis off my avatar cause there are weirdo's around that like stealing baby pics, so I took mine off

mum_inlove
13-11-2007, 20:33
Hi everyone...!!!!! :wave:

oh my, I haven't go in to the thread for a while and there are so many pages to catch up on. How are mummies and their bubbas doing? Feeding well, sleeping well, all is well?:D

Just a quick update on us.

OLivia is 3 weeks, time flies, but yet I can't believe she's only 3 weeks. It seems like she's been here for a looooonnnnggg time, lol.

She's been feeding well, and we can see she's been putting on weight. She get this cubby little face now, so cute..She wakes up longer during the day and so alert, but definetely doesn't like tummy time :no: . She's starting to strech longer between feeds during the day. It still takes some time to put her to sleep during the day, but she's great at night. So I think we're lucky. I could handle cries better during the day :yes:

Lloyd accidentaly whacked his plastic golf club on Olivia's forehead. Poor little girl, there was a lump straight away, she screamed her little lungs out. I told Lloyd what he did wrong and boy, i think I broke his heart he screamed the house down, so there I was on the floor with 2 screaming bubbas, lol.

My mil went home to brissy this arvo, Grant's out to a mate's house for a bit, I have both children in bed, and my god I am enjoying just being by myself. I actually can't wait until Grant goes back to work. It will be good to be able to start a small routine that will work for Lloyd, Olivia and I.

Anyway, that's all for now. Sorry that there's no personal this time. Talk soon, ladies!!

Shakey
13-11-2007, 20:37
Oh, how do you like your jazslings?

I havn't got mine yet, I payed for it, but I accidentally missed of a number so it didn't go through, :fingerscrossed: I should get it in the next day or two

have you got yours yet?

mum_inlove
13-11-2007, 20:56
oh oh I have to say I'm not a big fan of my jazsling either. I bought a new pram now. I thought I wouldn't have to if I just use a sling:yes:

Shakey
13-11-2007, 21:23
Oh thats a bummer that you both arn't keen on ya jazslings

will have to see what mine is like

i've got a frount pack arriving on friday, can't wait

zenifa
14-11-2007, 08:36
Cassie - your kids are adorable!! Bummer about the jazzsling. Great idea about the blanket to encourage tummy time, I'm lucky my DD 2 has amazing head and neck control and loves tummy time, she's very curious looking around and so alert now!!

Just popped on here briefly to say hi. I'm just in the process of getting ready - we've got a playdate with a friend and her 2 kids, so it should be fun!! My dad is missing the girls, so he is popping around this arvo for a visit, and is bringing some fish he caught yesterday.

Had a really good night last night, given that DD2 didn't sleep much during the day yesterday. She went to bed at 6pm, and I got her up for a 10pm feed and slept 6hrs :yelclap: til 4am, and she is now still asleep, its been 4hrs :yelclap: , will wake her soon for a feed before we head out. DH and DD1 didn't wake me up til 7am, so I had over 8hrs sleep, which was great (I was so tired yesterday).

Hope everyone has a great day, will pop in later!!Bye!

mischief79
14-11-2007, 11:40
Are the slings or front packs recommended by any of you ladies? DD loves bein carried around all day, but of course then I can't do anything! I was worried about the slings in case she fell through, but she can't hold her head up properly yet so can I use a front pack?

Quick question... what do you do with a 5 week old for playtime? I put her in her swing and sing her songs, or she just wants to cuddle. Doesn't look at a book, but I read it anyway, and hates tummy time (although I'm going to try that towel trick).
What are you meant to do for an hour or so?

BBL

AnD05
14-11-2007, 12:22
:wave:

Re Schedule: Umm dont have a strict one but the routine usually goes something like everyone elses - feed/awake play time/sleep repeat! Except when it hits 6/7pmish when he eats but then spends the next 3hrs crying on and off and nothing we can do will help! Then he feeds and usually falls asleep between 10pm-11pm, when he wakes between 2-4am I feed him and straight back to sleep (sometimes this is a quick process others its a long one!).

Re Playtime: I put him in his rocker and place his 'black & white' book (those newborn soft ones) somewhere where he can see it, he loves looking at. Or we have cuddles. Or he has nappy free time. Or I read books to him. Bath time. In his cot with his mobile going....uumm sometimes going for a walk in his pram.

Zenifa - Wow lucky you with the sleep! It's funny how now when we get a good block of sleep we feel sooo good! Before DS I could sleeep 9 hr nights and still be tired! :laughing:

Cass - Those photos are so gorgeous! Loving Logans Tiger outfit and how peaceful does Afrika look! Actually on the subject of photos I finally captured DS smile on camera this morning :smiliedance: !! Its sooo cute!! Must try and post it!

MumInLove - I know what you mean when you say it feels like they have been here for a long time!!!!

Sorry if I've missed anyone, but gotta run. DS has started to wake - its boobie time! Then we are off to our first mothers group, which should be good!

A

mischief79
14-11-2007, 14:09
Mrsgreen, I'd love it if DD was only awake for 1 hour at the most! During the day it's just little can naps, I'm struggling to get her down for a 2 hour nap in the afternoon. She just cries when I put her in her bassinet, but will happily nap on me for half an hour. Perserverance I say! She's in her bassinet at the moment, in her room with the lullabies going, wrapped up. This normally doesn't work but I'm trying! Going to try with the 1 hour up, then down for 2 routine during the day.

I had my first time away from her on Monday. She was asleep and I needed to go to the supermarket. I told DH that we'd go when she wakes up, but he encouraged me to go. I only rang home twice to check on her!! So proud of myself, I though it would take months to leave her. Not looking forward to doing it again though!
I gave up shopping for new clothes that fit now. I put on 39kg (horror!) in pregnancy and lost 20kg in the first few weeks. Still, I'm 20kg heavier than I'm used to and clothes shopping is depressing. Once I can start exercising (the dredded 6 week wait after a c/s) I'm sure I'll feel better.

I've caught a few smiles on my phone camera, it's the only one I can get at quick enough! DD mostly likes to smile at 3am for some reason. Maybe its funny keeping me awake?!

I'm going a bit stir crazy stuck in the house at the moment. It's too hot to go out and I still can't drive long distances. Thank goodness for BH! Planning lots of outings from next week. Gotta work on being able to feed in public.

mischief79
14-11-2007, 16:58
Keep the suggestions coming cos I'm willing to try anything! I think it will be trial and error for a while to see what works for us. Tonights a new night...

SeeJayElle - are you from Adelaide as well? North, south, east or west?

Zenifa - I work for ANZ and I'm planning on going back in August next year, part time. They are REALLY good with maternity leave and family balance. I've got the option to extend my leave for another year and then go back part time until DD turns 5. Then I'm guaranteed my full-time position back. Not bad!

Mrsgreen - I hated shopping for post-pregnancy clothes. I put on 39kg when preggers and lost 20 in the first few weeks (big bubba!) and until I've lost a few more kilos the shopping is on hold. Can't wait to exercise again.... the damn 6 week wait after a c/s

We have our paed check-up tomorrow. Hope all goes well. Not looking forward to going out in this heat tho

michblb
14-11-2007, 17:52
Hi all

Sorry won't have tim for personals but hope evryone is well - just a quick post before feed time.

Went to mum's group today - not a great start forgot Charlie's bottle so had to go back home for it and then couldn't find a park. Arrived half an hour late but worth going. Alot of nice mums and we sat around discussing the birth/parenting etc. A few are keen to start coffee/catchups.

I sat next to a lady with a bub 3 days older than Charlie who is breastfed and she weighs 4.2kg, while Charlotte weighs 6! She was so well behaved - slept the whole time then had a feed then we went home - perfect :angel:

Looking forward to next week.

Mammy
14-11-2007, 18:01
Hi all

Sounds like our little angels are giving some of us a hard time of it at the moment, just as well they're so cute! :angel:

Sophie had the longest daytime sleep ever yesterday from 2pm-6pm! I had to keep checking her to see if she was breathing.... paronoid mummy...
The night was also fantastic, slept from 10.30pm-2.30am, and only awake for half an hour at 2.30. (This never happens, her longest sleep is usually 3 hours and she can be awake for up to 3 hours at night.)
Then slept from 3-5, then 6-8, 5am is waaaay to early for me to start the day.

Her feeding times have gone right down, she only spends about 15mins on 1st boob and if she decides to go for the second will only last not even 10mins. This is from a baby that fed constantly and would take 30mins on both sides. Is this normal for a 5 week old? Im worried shes not getting enough. Shes sleeping more than normal so she mustnt be hungry :confused:

I bought a breast pump from a lovely bubhub girl yesterday so will try her with a bottle to see if she will take more that way. It will also be handy having some EBM for going out and maybe for DH to do some night feeds on the weekend.

Went to a Babes In Arms movie session this morning but was a bit disappointing. I thought the movie was just for mums and bubs but there was 'regular' people there too and only two more bubs. DD slept for about an hour and then decided to wake up and cry. I felt bad for the other people that she was crying so took her outside and missed half the movie. I thougt the whole idea was that it was a place for mums to go with their bubs and as it would be full of other mums and bubs and therefore you woundnt have to feel bad if your baby was crying. Also the sound was really loud and the lights were off. On their website they said that the sound would be lowered and the lights left on :confused:
Zenifa what was your experience when you went last week?
Don't think ill be going again...

Mammy
14-11-2007, 18:27
:xmas:
Sare... i went through the same issues as you with Sophie constantly feeding, she was permanently attached to the boob. Now she doesnt feed anywhere near as much so im sure Isabelle will be the same. Shes a few weeks younger than Sophie so im sure it will get better for you. Its hard work i know, and you dont get a moment to yourself. I was dreading DH going back to work too, especially as i dont see anyone else, but it hasnt been too bad. The day seems to go really quickly coz im so busy with bub that its 5 o'clock before i know it. Does get a bit lonely though so i try and get out of the house if i can. It can be a mission trying to leave though..
With BF at night i get up and do it in the lounge room as i dont want to disturb DH, not that he minds, but its not fair on him if hes working. I used to do the early morning feed in bed with her lying next to me coz i was too knackered to get up but now i just drag myself to the lounge and watch crapola TV. :sleeping: These are the times that i wish we had Foxtel, it would make the feeds so much more entertaining.


Nat... glad you've recoverd from the Impetigo. BTW ive never heard of it..... what is it? :o

Mischief.... hi and welcome. My DD has a grizzly period too where nothing i can do will calm her. Like you i check that shes fed, got a clean nappy, is not tired etc... I think all babies have an unsettled period during the day so i wouldnt worry. Its hard to listen to them crying i know, it really upsets me when i cant calm her. With routines, none for us, i just go with the flow and follow her cues. I think shes a bit young for a routine at the moment, might try when shes 12 weeks or so. I had a c/s too but I'm naughty, i was driving after 2 weeks, not done any exercise yet, just walking.

Muminlove... Hi :wave:, sounds like all is going well at your end!

Cassie... your kids are gorgeous! Thanks for the tummy time tip, only tried TT once with dd but she wasnt a fan. Will give this a go. Hope the inlaws behave themselves for you and have a great night out with your girlfriend! Oh any whats with the ironing you mad woman, i dont know where you find the time. My iron is gathering dust in the cupboard...

Zenifa... yay for a great nights sleep! Sophie was an :angel: for me last night too!


Mich... good that the mums group went well. Ive got mine again tomorrow morning, its at 8.30 so not the best time, its usually a mission trying to leave the house to be there on time...

:xmastree:

Shakey
14-11-2007, 19:27
evening everyone

I got my jazsling today :smiliedance: i've used it once and have found it alright :yelclap: just have to get used to getting DD in and out of it,

to whoever asked about what slings and frount packs, I can't really suggest a sling cause I hadn't used one before today, I have used frount packs before and my favourite one is the baby gear frount pack, its nice and snuggly, can use it from newborn and up, has good back support, the part baby sits in can seperate from the harness so if bub falls asleep you can unclip and put them down to sleep, oh and it has a rain/sun sheild, to keep the weather from them when they are facing into you :thumbsup:

oooooh I got DD weighed again today, she's gained 330 grams in 6 days :smiliedance: i'm so happy, she's now 8lb 8oz :yelclap: and fitting new born clothes now,

TeamAwesome
14-11-2007, 20:47
Hi girls,

just a quick update as all my possums are finally in bed (and hopefully will stay there)

We went to dinner at my PIL's place last night (they accommodated the kids early eating time for us which was nice) and Angie was awake from 4pm until 11pm apart from a couple of really short naps but then slept until 3.45am fed for 15mins and then slept until 7am... not going out for dinner again anytime soon, lol.

I think she's having a growth spurt as she's really chubbed up the last couple of days, hence all the feeding and wakefulness last night (and the grumpiness in between the feeding).

We went to playgroup today which was nice to have some adult interaction and the kids had a ball, then after dropping something off to FIL the kids fell asleep in the car on the way home and all of them slept until 3pm! but I figured it wouldn't last (libby is a shocking napper) so I didn't go nap too.

Mich-on the weight thing I've found my breast fed bub's were more often then not heavier then the bottle fed bubs I've known. but then it's all individual with each baby some are greedy no matter how they're fed and some are just genetically tiny no matter what (oh and Angie was 4.26kgs last week and she was only 2weeks old)

Moomoo- Impetigo aka school sores is a staph or strep bacterial infection of the skin or sores (there are three kinds) so really not good for little newborns. just glad I found out when I did and am kicking myself for not realising earlier as I just thought Angie had overly sensitive skin, it's nice and clear now though.

well I better get some shut eye as Aden's gone away again so it's just me again. will try to do more personals next time (though I think you understand my time on here is limited and catching up on the posts can be hard enough)

Natalie

Grizabella
14-11-2007, 21:07
Hiya guys - just a quick one from me - quiet day so not much to add.

Toran feeds every 3-4 hours and then usually goes straight back to sleep, he's starting to look chubby now - so won't be long til I have a big Boofa like his brother was! Mind you he is much bigger then Brion was at this age (3weeks) - Brion was about 4 kg, Toran is 5. Toran's also taller then Brion at this stage.

RE slings - I have a Hug A Bub which is awesome! I was a little sceptical of it when it first arrived, but have used it a few times with Toran and he loves it! Completely hands free too which is awesome. Little more fiddly to put on - but not too bad. We went shopping the other day and Toran went to sleep as soon as he was in it - and didn't wake til we put him in the car almost 2 hrs later.

robinson
14-11-2007, 21:08
Hi Ladies...
I've been MIA for the last few days.. have just read thru most of the posts.. and it took up too much time.. so just a quick post..

Chloee is now 6weeks 1day and last night she slept from her feed at 1030pm til 5:55am this morning and she is still exclusively b/f so i am so happy.. lets just hope she sleeps like that tonight... but i very much doubt it..

I held Mothers Group here today and it went really well.. its been good to meet some mums in my town..

Chloee for the past week has been a little terror come 6pm (the dreaded witching hour) it really makes it hard with her being a nightmare and not settling during this time and also trying to get DD1 bathed, bottled and into bed..and dinner cooked.. but were getting there..

Hopoe your all well!

Shakey
14-11-2007, 21:09
Jude whats the hug a bub like in the heat, I wanted to get one of them but i'm worried that it will be too hot to use it in mid summer

Grizabella
14-11-2007, 21:17
It can get a little sticky - but I found that with my Baby Bjorn too. Same as you would if you held them for a while.

dansta10000
14-11-2007, 22:12
Hi Gals

Just thought id pop in and say hi.
have read a few pages and thought id share my daily process with you guys.

Well Isabel feeds every 4 hours and has anywhere from 80-180mls per feed (formula) and we do he chnge nap then feed then play then sleep rouine

Her last feed for the night usually is at around 9.30 and we feed her half the bottle burp then after 10 mins we have a bath then continue with the rest of the bottle and she goes down for the night. SHe sleeps anywhere from 6-9 hrs a night. The shortest she has slept at night is 4 hours.

Everyone tells me how lucky i am but i just think she knows mummy needs her rest so i can get better and she likes to be kind. i have heard once they reach 3 or 6 mnths it can all change either way i luv her and as ong as she is happy so am i.

I have a Baby Bjorn carrier and havent yet used it but considering my wound is still open and im still recovering and still a hospotal in the home patient i havent yet had a chanceto use it...maybe some time soon there is light at the end of the tunnel!!

Caught up with some gals from mothers group today for the forst time and tomorrow we have a mothers group lunch which should be nice, good toget out of the house.

hope your all well guys.

Hugs to you and your bubbas :hugs:

SJE
15-11-2007, 12:12
Hi All

Just a quick one for today.

Had a crappy evening and morning.


Mischief79 - I'm a northeaster!

Moomoo- Pity about your movie experience. Sounds like the baby free ppl were there just to go to a cheap movie. Maybe just let bubs cry and move away from ppl so you still see the movie. It is a mums and bubs session isnt it? so its actually more for you than them?

Robinson - You are so fortunate with the BF and sleeping - Tell me your secrets!

Catalyst - sounds like you have some good sized boys there. It will be so handy when they are older - lawn mowing, vacuuming, painting...

Dansta - Do you think that bath in the evening is the reason for bubs sleeping through?

Michblb - Its definately good to get out and talk to other mums. It helps to know you are not alone. They often have wisdom that no one else has.

Dh decided to come home after 9pm last night - bearing in mind he has not come home earlier than 8pm every night this week.
Both kids were going nuts, I have a sinus infection and my breast pump decided to blow up. Not happy. :hair:

Dh said he would take the pump back tonight when he got home (probably very late) and try to sort it out meanwhile I'm stuck pumping four hourly with a manual pump, screaming kids and a dripping nose all day.

Anyways in talking with the manufacturer, they are sending me by express a new machine which:fingerscrossed: will arrive tomorrow. We also worked out it will run on the battery pack so it may be a cord thing. So the rechargables will be getting a hammering today. A big :thumbsup: for that company - some are so annoying when it comes to the after sales stuff but not them.

sam's mum
15-11-2007, 12:26
OMG the time is going so fast!

Exercising mummies - be careful. The phsyio that did my consult at the hospital said that sit ups and jogging are huge no nos for the first 12 weeks. She said that there is big increase in the risk of suffering a prolapse if you do either of these activities. I don't know if it is true for both VB and CS or just for CS though.

Definition of heartbreak - having both kids sleeping and having to get them up to go out. :hair:

not only did I not get to have a sleep myself, now their sleep is disturbed. Monday DD1 had her high school interview and today I have to get my in laws from the airport.

Belle is 4.1 kg now, up from 2.3 birth weight. The paed is very happy (and so are we).

for those with the whinging babies :hugs: nothing lasts for ever, it just feels like it does.

better go finish cooking dinner, if I don't do it at lunch time, we don't eat...

Grizabella
15-11-2007, 12:46
Jane - I was told the same thing from my Ob at the hospt re excercise. I was told just light walking and swimming - no high impact like jogging aroebics etc and definately NO SITUPS. I am going to take it easy til After Christmas - I mean hell I am just going to gain weight from all the food so why torment myself after excercising to lose weight?

sam's mum
15-11-2007, 12:59
ok - lasagna assembled and in the fridge ready to cook later. I am working up to waking Belle for a feed before we go to the airport.

I don't wanna go. My in laws are nice and all, but they don't do anything. they don't read, or watch tv, or play cards. I find it hard to talk to them because they have very thick accents and I don't hear very well to start with. I get it from my Dad. The doctor said to him this week that she wouldn't see him until after Christmas. He said - no thanks, cake is too fattening... good thing Mum was there.

I don't do situps at the best of times, let alone just after having a baby. :D

I agree about Christmas, it is too hot anyway. Besides, I HAVE to take in extra calories to make the breast milk... :laughing: ok, I know that it is the equivalent of about two biscuits, but it is my excuse, and I am sticking to it.

ok, here I go.... now..... any minute.... damn, better go.

Grizabella
15-11-2007, 13:01
Sucks you have to go to the airport - glad I don't have to leave the house today - too stinking hot! Hope the experience isn't too boring/painful!

saremc
15-11-2007, 14:26
Hello from the crazy house!

Little Isabelle has a snotty nose poor love which just makes feeding imposible so i have now become a jersey cow lol line me up and milk me :laughing: . We went to the doctors today and she said that bella is frustrated, sick and needs some TLC hugs to the rescue. She also said because she has lost some weight since monday to try and feed her as much EBM as possible and if need be top up with some formular. Man i feel bad i gave my cold i got to her and she is just so tiny and helpless :gloomy: almost had a break down very eairly this morning thank goodness DP was there to give me hugs and kisses and tell me it will get better.

Well enought ranting from me going to have a lye down while Bella is asleep. will BBL for personals if i can

Also this is to everyone in general when you express how much do you get and how long does it take to get it? lol think i might get rsi from pumping.

SJE
15-11-2007, 15:34
saremc- If I am on time with my pumping - about 120mls. First thing in the morning it's alot, yesterday it was 360mls. My boobies felt like they were going to explode. Had a good sleep though. Total for yesterday 750mls!! Sorry to brag but its so much work and commitment. Alot of massage and manual expression is required to get every last drop!
A manual pump, especially if used frequently, is excellent for a cardiovascular workout and for building up hand and forearm strength. Not so good for blood pressure and is an OHS risk.:D
The electric pump being on the blink means we are doing manual today - not fun.

A big :yelclap: :thumbsup: to all of you whether you are bottling or breastfeeding. It is hard work to do this 24/7.

zenifa
15-11-2007, 16:03
Hi everyone, its been pretty busy for me, so not much Bubhub time for me. Had a lovely playdate yesterday, and although DD1 didn't want to nap in the afternoon:hair: , at least she had a couple of hours quiet time in her room. My dad popped over with some fresh fish he caught for us and I got some filing/paperwork stuff done (which I've neglected for months) ......then DH came home, made pizzas for dinner which was yummy. Had a good night last night, X is feeding/sleeping great, but for some reason after our 2am feed, it took me over an hour to get back to sleep:banghead: , luckily I had a sleep in today!!

Another busy day for me today, had a hairdresser appt and also got my eyebrows waxed (mil looked after DD1, and my mum came with me to look after dd2), then we did a few errands/shopping and I took mum out to lunch and shouted her a manicure (I was getting one, using a voucher I got as a maternity leave present from my work colleagues), as its her b'day next week!! X was a very good girl while we were out, feeding and sleeping well but after being out for 5.5 hrs I thought, lets not push it and now we're home and she's grizzly :thumbsdown: Plus DD1 hasn't had a nap again!! So this afternoon will be fun, :no:

Hope everyone else is having a good day.

Someone asked about slings - I use my baba sling and my hugabub one all the time, and dont' find them any hotter than holding/breastfeeding the baby.

Someone also asked about awake/activity time, well my DD2 is only 6 weeks old, so I will read/sing to her, cuddle and look/talk at/to her, we put her in the rocker or in the snuggle bed where she has some toys she likes to look at and push/touch (an elephant shaped ball with a chime). I also try to not overstimulate her, so we don't use the musical mobile/fp aquarium as yet.

Exercise - its true, regardless of the type of birth, you should only be doing walking and swimming/aqua aerobics for first 12 weeks, then after that you can start off slowly going back to gym type exercise.
I am at my pre-pregnancy weight, but still need to lose 15kg, and I will try to start some walking soon but will wait til NY to start a new diet/exercise regime. At the moment I am being kind to myself, plus I'm bf so its a good excuse to not diet or over do it, as it could affect my supply.

Expressing I am using a manual pump, but only express once at night and that is not every night anyway. Last night I expressed 200ml, from expressing 5min off each breast - yes 200ml in 10 min which is pretty good me thinks!!


Keep the suggestions coming cos I'm willing to try anything! I think it will be trial and error for a while to see what works for us. Tonights a new night...

SeeJayElle - are you from Adelaide as well? North, south, east or west?

Zenifa - I work for ANZ and I'm planning on going back in August next year, part time. They are REALLY good with maternity leave and family balance. I've got the option to extend my leave for another year and then go back part time until DD turns 5. Then I'm guaranteed my full-time position back. Not bad!

Mrsgreen - I hated shopping for post-pregnancy clothes. I put on 39kg when preggers and lost 20 in the first few weeks (big bubba!) and until I've lost a few more kilos the shopping is on hold. Can't wait to exercise again.... the damn 6 week wait after a c/s

We have our paed check-up tomorrow. Hope all goes well. Not looking forward to going out in this heat tho

Hope all went well at your paed check up appt. I need new clothes but am trying to hold off buying stuff until I've lost the weight, good luck with your weight loss plans!! You seem to have a good employer!!


Hi all

Sounds like our little angels are giving some of us a hard time of it at the moment, just as well they're so cute!

Sophie had the longest daytime sleep ever yesterday from 2pm-6pm! I had to keep checking her to see if she was breathing.... paronoid mummy...
The night was also fantastic, slept from 10.30pm-2.30am, and only awake for half an hour at 2.30. (This never happens, her longest sleep is usually 3 hours and she can be awake for up to 3 hours at night.)
Then slept from 3-5, then 6-8, 5am is waaaay to early for me to start the day.

Her feeding times have gone right down, she only spends about 15mins on 1st boob and if she decides to go for the second will only last not even 10mins. This is from a baby that fed constantly and would take 30mins on both sides. Is this normal for a 5 week old? Im worried shes not getting enough.

I bought a breast pump from a lovely bubhub girl yesterday so will try her with a bottle to see if she will take more that way. It will also be handy having some EBM for going out and maybe for DH to do some night feeds on the weekend.

Went to a Babes In Arms movie session this morning but was a bit disappointing. I thought the movie was just for mums and bubs but there was 'regular' people there too and only two more bubs. DD slept for about an hour and then decided to wake up and cry. I felt bad for the other people that she was crying so took her outside and missed half the movie. I thougt the whole idea was that it was a place for mums to go with their bubs and as it would be full of other mums and bubs and therefore you woundnt have to feel bad if your baby was crying. Also the sound was really loud and the lights were off. On their website they said that the sound would be lowered and the lights left on :confused:
Zenifa what was your experience when you went last week?
Don't think ill be going again...

Anne - often their feeding times reduce as bubs is becoming a more efficient feeder, they can suck more in shorter time, so as long as she continues to gain weight I wouldn't worry, and you are right, a hungry baby will not sleep with an empty tummy. Good luck with your breastpump - unfortunately my DD2 will still not take the bottle, but I shall persevere slowly. Sounds like your DD is getting some great sleeps, lets hope it continues.
Babes in arms - yes there are often other non-babes people in the cinema which I also found weird the first time I went, but remember, you can stay even if your bubs is screaming/crying, and dont' feel compelled to leave and miss the film (if you dont' want to). I fed and even changed DD2 in the cinema (on the spare seat next to me). Also if bubs is crying/unsettled, I might nurse her and walk around the back, so I can still see the film, if I can't soothe her sitting down by cuddling/rocking/feeding. Some sessions I have been to have toddlers running around the front which is a little distracting, but you soon forget about them. In most of the ones I've been to the lights are dimmed but still on and the sound is turned down a bit (but I did use wax ear plugs with DD1 when we saw mission impossible 3, for all the explosions). I am thinking of going again next Weds to see the new Elizabeth film, will let you know how I go.

Sara - :hugs: to you!! Hope you and Bella are feeling better soon!!

Jane - hope all went well with your airport trip, yes it is so annoying to wake sleeping kids to take them out!!

See Jay Elle - hope you are feeling better soon and good luck with getting your replacement breast pump that is great news and service!!

Sorry I can't remember any more, I'm pretty tired and the girls are quite demanding this afternoon. Both are probably a bit tired and a wee bit overstimulated.
Hope all of you attending mothers group are enjoying it!! I am definately planning a day at home tomorrow and the weekend too, off now to make a start on dinner!! Bye!!

mischief79
15-11-2007, 17:32
We've reached 5 weeks old today!! Bit of a long day. Started yesterday. Katelyn's been having some trouble with feeding times over the last few days. She's always fed 2 hourly at the most during the day, but it's been getting more frequent. She gulps down for a few minutes and then thats it! Now she's started to cry after and spit up a bit. I try to put her back on to see if she's crying cos she's hungry and then there's more tears. She's only sleeping 3 hours at most at night now too (had a few good 5-7 hr sleeps for a while). Went to the paed today and he says that she has a touch of silent reflux. Suggested Mylanta but someone else suggested Brauer Colic which is what we're trying. Anything is better than a screaming baby at 10pm and one who won't settle in the middle of the night! Apart from that, paed says that she's doing well. She was 4590g at birth and she's now 5420g and 60cm long. My big bubba!!

Decided to go and see my best friend and her baby today. I thought DD would be nice and good and feed and then have a sleep on me, but no.... the screams came out! Very disheartening when I couldn't get her to stop. Turned out she had a burp I couldn't get and belched it out at home.

With all the expressing chat, I have a question. When do you do it? I was doing it once a day at mid morning to just have some frozen "in case" and was getting about 120ml. Now suddenly if I do it a bit after a feed I only get about 30ml on the side that we've used (she's only a one side feeder). Am I losing it??

We're going to move bed time forwardI think. Getting ready for big sleeps at 8pm is turning into sleep at 10.30pm. She has no problem being awake for 2+ hours!

I've borrowed a Snuglie front pack which is a godsend! She usually loves to be held (to do with the reflux??) but then I can't do anything. Now she's fallen asleep in it which is great. I can do what I need and she can rest. I've looked at a baba sling as another option as well.

SeeJayElle - northeast? Me too!

Time to try and cook some dinner..... Maybe I should start doing that in the morning as others do

kitty1kat
15-11-2007, 20:38
Hi all - been reading every day and been VERY impressed by the long notes from everyone, it's all I can do some days only reading, so I apologise for no personals!

All going well with us and the little man. Hardest thing I have found is the emotional upheaval. Anyone else still suffering from massive emotional ups and downs? Most days I am fine, but some nights I am just so overwhelmed I get teary. I'm not even that tired, I think it's just the life change and sense of responsibility that gets to me... I am in ADMIRATION of those of you with more than one!!!

Anyway, someone asked about routines. I have been following one since first day back from hospital (yes, I am sooooo anal). It's altered a bit each week as he gets a bit older, but for anyone who is interested, here's how our day goes at the moment (he's 6 weeks old)

7am - we get up and feed, then we have play time
9am - sleep of 45min-60m
10am - up again
10.30am - feed then playtime
12pm - long sleep of between 2 and 2.5hrs
2pm - feed the playtime
4pm - 30m sleep then playtime
5pm - small feed
5.45pm - bath/massage time
6.15pm - feed.
7.00pm - sleep
10pm - wake him up for a feed, which hubby gives an expressed bottle.
Generally he then sleeps til 6am-7am. This has only started happening in last week or so. Up until then he was generally waking for one feed at about 3am, which got later and later each night but we have now had five nights in a row of pretty close to 7am which is great.

Generally, this is working pretty well. There are days when he is not keen to sleep in the allotted times at all (!), and there are nights when it takes over an hour to get him settled at 7pm, but in general it seems to be working. Basically I work by the principal of trying to ensure I get five feeds in between 7pm-7am, and always making sure we start our day at 7am, no matter what happened in the night. When I get out and about, I try to make sure we are travelling when he is supposed to be asleep, as he is fast asleep the minute he hits the car or pram. I also try to make sure he doesn't have more than 4.5hrs sleep during the day at the moment, to ensure he is sleeping longer at night. I try to put him in his cot in his own room for 2 sleeps a day, and the other we are either out walking or he is sleeping with me or in his bassinette somewhere noisy to get him used to noise as well. Seems to be working for us, but as I say, I am sooo anal, and it works for me - totally appreciate it might seem like someone else's horror life!

SamsMum - I am terrified now about your comments about exercising. I had a c-section, and this week started back at the gym, and have been jogging and doing sit-ups all week (v v slow jogging, and v few/light sit-ups), but guess I better call a halt to it. Haven't seen my ob yet for my postnatal check-up, but will check with her too.

Seejayelle - are you exclusively expressing? that's impressive expressing amounts!

I tried the lactation cookies last week, and they really seemed to have worked, my supply has really upped. INterestingly, one of the nurses mentioned to me that one theory about unexplained crying in the evenings is that the majority of mums have low supply in the evenings, and babies might just be plain hungry! Not sure how true it is, but since I started expressing in the mornings and giving him the excess at the 6.15pm feed, he seems to be settling a lot easier. Might just be a fluke.

There is a chemist in Horsham (Vic) who is famous for his natural colic drops - lots of people I know swear by him - he sends the drops all oevr the country, might be worth looking into for anyone who thinks they might have a colic issue (not reflux).

Anyone, that's a world record post from me.

Well done to everyone for making it this far!!! You seem to all be doing an amazing job, and I pick up so many tips reading every few days. Whoever mentioned the massaging of the forhead - GENIUS!!!

ikran
15-11-2007, 21:33
Hello Oct mummies!

Finally I am posting....I've been following your posts since "Oct mummies to be" days, never made it to post before my bub arrived!

My boy (Liibaan) was born on 28/09, EDD was 7/10. He was a breech, so I had c/s at 39 wks.

Liibaan is doing good so far, he's an :angel: . Doesn't cry much, feeds well. Lucky he is so good as I don't have much help from others except my DH, as all my families are O/S, and my close friends are in Gold Coast. So it would be great to chat to you ladies... :)
Today Lii had a major :barf: just before... He's done small ones now and then, but this time it was all over him and all over me!! Not sure this was just overfed? His :barf: are more frequent for the last 2,3 days. Originally I thought he has colic, as he grunts and moans when he tries to pass the winds (esp while he is asleep). Tried Gripe Water, but not sure it is working? When I talked to CHN the other day, she said he might have reflux... hmmm...I guess I will have to ask Dr to confirm it when I see him tomorrow for 6wks check-up. It is worrying me, and very frustrating to see the bub suffering and not being able to help him at all :thumbsdown:

sam's mum
16-11-2007, 07:50
mischief - your story brings back memories of when DS was little. I didn't put him down for the first 7 to 8 weeks.... He was either cuddled up asleep on my chest or feeding.

the two things that helped are the things that you have been told. stretch the feeds and use mylanta.

I was told to ideally stretch to at least three hourly but not to feed within 2 hours of starting a previous feed. That he was snacking and using the milk to sooth his poor sore belly.

the mylanta was a god send. He started being able to sleep in his bassinet or cot (with one end elevated). He wasn't screaming all the time anymore.

kittykat - didn't mean to scare anyone, just that someone had said that they were back at the gym and had been doing situps, I wanted to make sure that they knew what the physio had told me. My families method of birth control was to make all the teenage girls listen to my granny tell the story of her prolapse.... *shudder* I can still hear her saying "and the doctor asked if I wanted to use it again, and I said no, so he just sewed the whole thing up"

Belle has gone two nights now where she has fed at about 8pm and gone to 6.30am with only one night feed. It gives me hope for the future. :D

zenifa
16-11-2007, 08:20
Good morning everyone!!
Hope all the mummies and bubs are doing well. Sorry to hear that some of you are grappling with reflux, must be hard to deal with the :barf: , the tears and the cleanup!!

Well after my post yesterday I had a mummy meltdown :gloomy: , was just not coping with the two girls, both crying (it was witching hour from hell), the house in complete chaos. When MIL comes over to look after DD1, they play and leave toys/mess all over the house, every room and floor space covered :hair: , its soul destroying to leave a tidy house and come home to a disaster zone, and then have to clean up during arsenic hour :banghead: So I was in tears when DH rang up to say he would be late home, I broke down and said there is no way I can even contemplate making dinner, all the crying was giving me a massive headache!! By the time DH got home I had fed DD1 and put her to bed, and had managed to soothe DD2, so he came home to quite a calm household and luckily he made a nice dinner and comforted me!!

Had a pretty good nights sleep, DD2 was only up once around 3am .....I am envious of mums esp bf mums with bubs that sleep straight through from 10pm (or earlier) to 6-7am!! However I will not give DD2 formula at 6pm or 10pm just to get her to sleep through (at this stage anyway .....depends if I have more days like today). I am demand feeding, so during the day its usually every 2-3 hrs (roughly I dont' really look at the time) and at night I still seem to have good supply...........but its true, usually your supply is lower in the evening, especially early evening 5pm-10pm.

Mischief - I only ever express around the 3am feed, to take the foremilk off if my boobs are massive (to decrease the amount of wind and to help attachment) and I will often do both sides for 5-10mins and often get 100mls off each boob! If you aren't getting much it is due to lower supply at night and also your bubs has successfully emptied that boob.

Cassie - I have to agree with you, there is a difference between cluster feeding and snacking. Cluster feeding goes for a shorter period of time and leads to longer sleeps whereas as snacking goes for longer periods and leads to shorter sleeps as they wake to snack and come off/on the boob/teat which is frustrating!!

Kittykat, thanks for sharing your routine!! Yes, I still get the emotional ups and downs (hence the beginning of my post), often all in one day. Part of it is tiredness, adjustment to having a new baby plus all the hormonal changes and breastfeeding etc. It is very demanding with a new born, but it does get better!! Glad to see the lactaction cookies are working for you, and yes take it easy with the exercise until you've seen your OB, but trust your own body, if its hurting then stop!!

Ikran - Welcome to our thread!! I'm not expert but sounds like your little man could have reflux, good luck with it, sound like you have been doing well despite this.

Jane - well done for Belle's sleep, lets hope it continues.

Better go, as DD2 seems to have woken up for a bf!!

Mybabble
16-11-2007, 09:44
Hello everyone:wave:

Im finally popping on here for a quick hello.I cant believe how much life has changed since Ella arrived! Busy Busy!

Im loving every minute of it though. She is feeding really well, and sleeping well too.Lachy is loving being a big brother although its getting a little bit frustrating telling him to leave her alone all the time,he just wants to kiss her and cuddle her ALL the time!

Ella and i had our first "mother daughter"shopping trip yesterday. I forgot how easy it was shopping with a newborn! She slept most of the time. We got stopped about a thousand time by all the little old ladies wanting to have a look and give advice,but thats half the fun,i love showing her off:p


Thats it for me today. Ella will be awake soon and Lachy wants to play play doh. Ah the fun!


I hope everyone is well and your babies are too.

Take care.

Mammy
16-11-2007, 11:11
Morning all

Not the best night here, fed at 12, 3 and 6, takes ages to settle after a feed though so it feels like ive been up all night :sleeping:
Shes still only feeding a maximum of only 15mins on boob and refusing the other side. As soon as she comes off after a feed she starts crying, dont know why, she pulls herself off, its not like i take her off so i dont know why she cries :confused: I check if theres milk still in there and there is so its not like its empty and shes getting none... So i offer her the other side and she doesnt take it, she just cries and cries :hair: Takes ages to settle and get back to sleep, not good at 3 in the morning.

She also has her witching hour(s) from 6pm to 9 or 10. Crying and crying and crying....
The only thing that calms her down is if i take her outside for a walk in my arms. Works a treat until i come back inside and it starts all over again :hair: So out i go again and this continues until she eventually wears herself and falls asleep in my arms. Then i have to carefully put her in the bassinett and pray she doesnt wake up.

Shes now asleep in her pram by the fridge, she seems to like the annoying noise its making:rolleyes:
Of course this sleep didnt come easy, i had to take her outside for a walk in the heat in my daggy clothes looking like sh!t! But this calmness now is all worth it, lets hope it lasts :fingerscrossed:

sam's mum
16-11-2007, 11:21
moomoo - does she need to burp??

Milliner
16-11-2007, 13:09
Anne - That sounds like what DS was like when he was a baby. :hugs: You could try some white noise; if she likes the fridge it could do the trick. You need to get a radio and have it on but not tuned into a station, the key is to have the volume up loud not to loud but loud.

Mirabella is doing well gaining weight, sleeping like a newborn baby. We co sleep, DP is sleeping with DS so Mira and I have the king size bed all to ourselves. I guess that's the trade off for DP getting a full nights sleep EVERY night. :rolleyes: I am a little tired but I think that I felt worse when I was pregnant. I don't have the sleep deprivation that I had with DS, well not yet anyway. She is feeding well just like her brother did :kiss:

mischief79
16-11-2007, 13:28
What a morning! DD has been awake since 8.30am and I have only just got her to go down for a sleep at 1.30pm. 5 hours awake for a 5 week old baby? Crazy.... It's not like she was crying or jerky movements, eyes rubbing or anything. She was just wide awake. We woke up at 8.30, had a feed in bed, big burp, quick nappy change cos it was dirty and then I lay her back down with patting and shushing. No good! Got up for play time with her on her playmat and me singing nursery rhymes, another top-up feed and back in the bassinet - pushing and rocking. No good! This went on (with no tears) through another feed and another playtime until I put her down and walked away. Finally, asleep. Last night she slept from 10pm until 5am and then 6.30am until 8.30am. Too much night time sleep?

Thanks for the tips on feeding. Somthing we need to work on, and I'll definately try to push out to 2.5hrs at least. Also, going to give mylanta a go today and see if that works.

Zenifa - aren't MIL supposed to come around and HELP you? I'd ask her to clean up after herself. Hope that today is a better day for you. Damn that witching hour!

Kitty - Yay for sleeping through for a week! We've had 3 7hrs sleeps over 3 weeks, but usually its 4hr at the most. Thanks for your routine. I like looking at others because it gives me an idea of what to try

Ikran - Welcome! It's nice to have somewhere to chat to people at the same stage as you

MooMoo - it seems we have the same feeding problem. 10mins on one side and then thats it. Big deep gulps and then she pulls herself off and clamps her mouth shut. No chance of the otherside. I'm worried that she's not draining it properley and I'll get mastitis

Mrsgreen - It's great to be pampered! I've got a gift certificate for 4 visits thats got heaps of massages, facials, hair appts, manicures etc to use, but it's only during certain times and I can't get a babysitter yet.... something to look forward to I guess

Milliner - when you say co-sleep, do you actually have buby in your bed, or in one of those hard cot like bed things (??). I'd like to try it cos it;s easier to feed lying down but I'm scared she'll get smothered or I'll roll on her

Time to do some washing while she's still asleep. Who knows when she'll sleep again!

Mammy
16-11-2007, 13:51
moomoo - does she need to burp??

I burp her everytime she comes off. Sometimes she burps, sometimes not. I try for a good 5 mins...


Anne - That sounds like what DS was like when he was a baby. :hugs: You could try some white noise; if she likes the fridge it could do the trick. You need to get a radio and have it on but not tuned into a station, the key is to have the volume up loud not to loud but loud.

Mirabella is doing well gaining weight, sleeping like a newborn baby. We co sleep, DP is sleeping with DS so Mira and I have the king size bed all to ourselves. I guess that's the trade off for DP getting a full nights sleep EVERY night. :rolleyes: I am a little tired but I think that I felt worse when I was pregnant. I don't have the sleep deprivation that I had with DS, well not yet anyway. She is feeding well just like her brother did :kiss:

Thanks for the tip Mel. Ive got that Sounds for Silence CD which has got all those awful noises in it, white noise, static, womb sounds etc. Will give that a go...

Well her sleep lasted all of 15mins, shes been whingey since she got up, now back in pram with me wheeling her round the house... :rolleyes:
Might be time to inflict those horrible noises on her...

Sounds like things are going well for you. Tried co-sleeping for the 1st week as i was too scared to put her in her bassinett in case she stopped breathing and i wouldnt notice...
It got a bit squashed with 3 of us as weve only got a queen bed. Went into the spare room for a couple of nights so that dh could get a proper nights sleep but it got a bit loney in there... Now shes in our room in her bassinett and comes into our bed when she wakes at 5 or 6.

zenifa
16-11-2007, 14:04
My daughter has been diagnosed with a range of things atm but since taking her off all the medications she is improving in leaps and bounds and I truly believe babies before 3 months should actually be diagnosed with anything as it could just be their body.

Jane YAHOO!!! for the sleeping through! Let's hope it is a permanent thing now

Zenifa sorry to hear you are having a bit of a rough time with the kids at the moment. Have you thought about sticking DD1 in childcare for a couple of days a week to give you a proper break? Sounds like you really need some 'me' time for sure!

Well, I have been pampering myself at the expense of our credit card! LOL. Went out and bought some clothes (over $400 for 5 items ) and going to buy some new heels today and my hair done Saturday in time for a meal at a lovely restaurant on the river possibly followed by a bar I sooo can't wait, I haven't done anything like this since the time I fell pg with DS!

DD is still being a pain in the backside. She is having 2 reasonably good bottles a day, and that is it. She usually only has about 20mls for the other bottles I offer her... at 6am this morning she wouldn't take any of it at all so I just rewrapped her and she went off back to sleep? Why wake up in the first place then?!? Oh well, since giving up trying to make her drink my sanity is restoring for the time being LOL. Just hope she doesn't lose any weight (she is not vomitting a tenth as much as she was on the reflux medication and going to attempt taking her off soy formula in 2 days time so she goes fine on a normal one!)

Yes I have DD1 booked into 2 days of childcare from January next year, we've got an interview/orientation in a week or so and in Dec, I'm taking DD1 there to have a play and get used to it, before she starts officially after our holiday in the New Year. It will definately help me cope better, get stuff done and spend time with DD2.
Good on you, for pampering yourself, you deserve it.
I felt great getting my hair cut, eyebrows waxed and nails done yesterday, pity it all went down hill once I got home :rolleyes:


Morning all

Not the best night here, fed at 12, 3 and 6, takes ages to settle after a feed though so it feels like ive been up all night
Shes still only feeding a maximum of only 15mins on boob and refusing the other side. As soon as she comes off after a feed she starts crying, dont know why, she pulls herself off, its not like i take her off so i dont know why she cries I check if theres milk still in there and there is so its not like its empty and shes getting none... So i offer her the other side and she doesnt take it, she just cries and cries Takes ages to settle and get back to sleep, not good at 3 in the morning.

She also has her witching hour(s) from 6pm to 9 or 10. Crying and crying and crying....
The only thing that calms her down is if i take her outside for a walk in my arms. Works a treat until i come back inside and it starts all over again So out i go again and this continues until she eventually wears herself and falls asleep in my arms. Then i have to carefully put her in the bassinett and pray she doesnt wake up.

Shes now asleep in her pram by the fridge, she seems to like the annoying noise its making
Of course this sleep didnt come easy, i had to take her outside for a walk in the heat in my daggy clothes looking like sh!t! But this calmness now is all worth it, lets hope it lasts

:hugs: to you Anne, hope things improve. Both of my kids love noise, so we have the radio on low a lot when I can't get them to sleep, seems to work. DD2 esp loves the vacuum cleaner, pity I can't be bothered to do the cleaning!
Hope you have a better night tonight, with both the feeding and sleeping.


What a morning! DD has been awake since 8.30am and I have only just got her to go down for a sleep at 1.30pm. 5 hours awake for a 5 week old baby? Crazy.... It's not like she was crying or jerky movements, eyes rubbing or anything. She was just wide awake. We woke up at 8.30, had a feed in bed, big burp, quick nappy change cos it was dirty and then I lay her back down with patting and shushing. No good! Got up for play time with her on her playmat and me singing nursery rhymes, another top-up feed and back in the bassinet - pushing and rocking. No good! This went on (with no tears) through another feed and another playtime until I put her down and walked away. Finally, asleep. Last night she slept from 10pm until 5am and then 6.30am until 8.30am. Too much night time sleep?

Thanks for the tips on feeding. Somthing we need to work on, and I'll definately try to push out to 2.5hrs at least. Also, going to give mylanta a go today and see if that works.

Zenifa - aren't MIL supposed to come around and HELP you? I'd ask her to clean up after herself. Hope that today is a better day for you. Damn that witching hour!

Kitty - Yay for sleeping through for a week! We've had 3 7hrs sleeps over 3 weeks, but usually its 4hr at the most. Thanks for your routine. I like looking at others because it gives me an idea of what to try

Ikran - Welcome! It's nice to have somewhere to chat to people at the same stage as you

MooMoo - it seems we have the same feeding problem. 10mins on one side and then thats it. Big deep gulps and then she pulls herself off and clamps her mouth shut. No chance of the otherside. I'm worried that she's not draining it properley and I'll get mastitis

Mrsgreen - It's great to be pampered! I've got a gift certificate for 4 visits thats got heaps of massages, facials, hair appts, manicures etc to use, but it's only during certain times and I can't get a babysitter yet.... something to look forward to I guess

Milliner - when you say co-sleep, do you actually have buby in your bed, or in one of those hard cot like bed things (??). I'd like to try it cos it;s easier to feed lying down but I'm scared she'll get smothered or I'll roll on her

Time to do some washing while she's still asleep. Who knows when she'll sleep again!

I tell myself I can handle the daytime grizzles and awake time, as long as bubs sleeps well at night. Your bubs is sleeping lots at night and early part of the morning, so yes she is going to need some awake time in the day or she'll be up all night.

Yes I agree, my MIL should be helping and she does if I ask (ie hang out washing, do the dishes & she brought a few meals around) but when my motherinlaw comes to look after DD1 and she just plays and doesn't seem to agree with me, that we should be teaching DD1 to put her toys away once she's finished rather than leave a mess and move onto a new toy in a clean part of the house :banghead: DH offered to talk to MIL, but I guess I will need to bring it up, next time she comes to look after DD1 (which wont' be until DH goes away to Townsville in the 1st week of Dec).

Anyway, so much for a quiet day - I relented and left the house to get some groceries and we stopped to meet some friends at the playcentre for a little while, now we're home and I'm hoping to relax.............definitely a quiet weekend planned. Hope you are all having a great day, will try now for a nap before the witching hour starts!! Bye

Mammy
16-11-2007, 14:06
What a morning! DD has been awake since 8.30am and I have only just got her to go down for a sleep at 1.30pm. 5 hours awake for a 5 week old baby? Crazy.... It's not like she was crying or jerky movements, eyes rubbing or anything. She was just wide awake. We woke up at 8.30, had a feed in bed, big burp, quick nappy change cos it was dirty and then I lay her back down with patting and shushing. No good! Got up for play time with her on her playmat and me singing nursery rhymes, another top-up feed and back in the bassinet - pushing and rocking. No good! This went on (with no tears) through another feed and another playtime until I put her down and walked away. Finally, asleep. Last night she slept from 10pm until 5am and then 6.30am until 8.30am. Too much night time sleep?


Throw in lots of crying and you've just described my morning! Except my little angel is still awake :hair: Shes now over my shoulder, her favourite position, and wide awake. At least the crying has stopped for now...

I've got nothing done, the house is a mess, im tired and hungry and need a shower!

I dont think the long night sleep your dd had would be the problem, mine had a **** night sleep so you would think she would be tired today...

Thats a fantastic nights sleep for you, whats your secret?:detective:

OMG, ive just moved her down to my chest and she's asleep!!! :smiliedance:
OK, time for a chest to bed transfer and if sucsessful this mumma is off to sleep too :sleeping:

Milliner
16-11-2007, 14:51
Anne - I have the SFS CD try the heartbeat track DS loved it when he was a baby.

mischief79 - I sleep with her in our bed there is plenty of room I feed her on one side then I move across to the other. We only had a double bed with DS we took one side off the cot and put it againt the wall then put out bed against the cot with the side missing against our bed. IYKWIM. It's called a side cart, that way if you already have a cot there is no need to buy anything else. I too love feedin lying down.

Sorry I am typing with 1 hand. Hope it mskes sense.

Milliner
16-11-2007, 14:53
Oh and Anne try not to stress about getting nothing done we all have those days. DS was a nightmare baby he would scream from 10-11pm - 3-4am everynight this went on for about 2 months. :hair:

leeloulee
16-11-2007, 16:28
i had my litle girl on the 21st of Oct. Exactly a year to the day after my first daughter was born.

michblb
16-11-2007, 18:22
Hi all

Sorry have read the last few pages but don't have alot of time for personals before DH picks up DSSs.

To all those whose bubs have feeding, settling issues - I hope they are soughting themselves out.

Re routines - Charlie feeds every 3 hours pretty much on the dot during the day and will go a bit longer at night - sometimes 4 hours othertimes 3. She is only taking between 120 and 150 mls per feed and sometimes won't get through 100, but I don't force her.

Can't believe so many bubs are sleeping through - that's excellent.

I graduated from my study program yesterday - it was the longest I'd been away from her - 8am to 6pm and OMG I missed her so much. Came home and cuddled then refused to put her down. Don't know how I'll cope in 4 months when I'm due to go back to work.

The devil is screaching - better go.
Mich

SJE
16-11-2007, 20:35
Comments on my routine please. (this is on a good day)

I really need this bubba to sleep through asap.
DH is rarely home before 8pm and am spending a fair bit of my time pumping.

7ish - up - feed bubs
8-9am pump

breakfast
shower or bath

11am feed
1-2pm pump
2pm lunch
free time:laughing:

3pm feed
4:30pm pump

walk
tea
screamfest and angry tired toddler time.

7pm feed
9pm pump

10:30 bed

11ish feed
3ish feed

Michblb - Do you mean - they drive you crazy but you love them anyway?

Bbl to do some more personals - duty calls...

AnD05
16-11-2007, 21:50
:wave: ladies

Just a quick one as Im sooo tired!

MooMoo & Mischief - I had exactly the same prob with DS about a week ago. He would only feed for a max of about 7mins off one side, then pull himself off and that was it. If i tried to attach him again, look out! My boobs were still getting so full and sore and I was also paranoid about him not draining them and getting mastitis so I rang my m/w and she still recommended just alternating each side and it did work. My boobs eventually regulated to his new frenzy feeding and weren't as sore. He has just now started to reattach without the screaming. So there is hope! I hope this works out for you girls too.

Better go DS is stirring!

BBL for more personals and an update!

A

Mammy
16-11-2007, 23:12
Hun maybe she just doesn't want more. I don't think all babies really do need what the 'recommended' for weight is. Afrika is taking about 400mls (on a good day), and she is meant to be having over 700. She screams if I put the bottle in her mouth if she doesn't want anymore (I do hold it there for 30-60 secs cos sometimes she gets over it and starts sucking, but most of the time she keeps going). I would just stop trying when she has a screaming fit, it will help your sanity by the sound of it, and if she is still gaining weight then you have nothing to worry about and both you and bubs will be much happier :thumbsup:

Thanks Cassie, you've made me feel better about things. Your right, she probably just doesnt need any more and as you say if shes gaining weight then theres nothing to worry about.

saremc
16-11-2007, 23:20
Hey

Just a quick post before i go to sleepy land, I had a shocking day DD woke up and feed from 11:30 to 3:30 this arvo made me go insane i fell asleep after her feed and 7 and didnt wake up untill she did at 11:30 she sort of stoped and started (on the boob) im going nuts its like my milk wont quench her like a bottle does its really getting to me i had a mini break down all i wanted to do was eat some lunch (mind you this was at like 2 or something) and have a shower and feel human.

I feel so bad :gloomy: i really am in too deep i had to let her cry for 15 min as i was to worked up to go near her i just got so frustrated i even called DP and the girls at his work sent him home eairly as they were worried. I just feel like im not doing it right.

Oh well im much better now I have had some me time a nice bath and some BH time and now im sleep as so better be off while my :angel: is asleep.

Sorry for no personals will try tomorrow!

Mammy
16-11-2007, 23:20
I'm so glad today is over, its been the worst day ever. She has cried practically the entire day. She is now asleep on the couch since 9pm, the first sleep of the day. Im so exhausted.
Just waiting for her to wake up for her midnight feed and then hopefully she sleeps through till 6am. Yeah right! :laughing:

Mammy
16-11-2007, 23:35
Hey

Just a quick post before i go to sleepy land, I had a shocking day DD woke up and feed from 11:30 to 3:30 this arvo made me go insane i fell asleep after her feed and 7 and didnt wake up untill she did at 11:30 she sort of stoped and started (on the boob) im going nuts its like my milk wont quench her like a bottle does its really getting to me i had a mini break down all i wanted to do was eat some lunch (mind you this was at like 2 or something) and have a shower and feel human.

I feel so bad :gloomy: i really am in too deep i had to let her cry for 15 min as i was to worked up to go near her i just got so frustrated i even called DP and the girls at his work sent him home eairly as they were worried. I just feel like im not doing it right.

Oh well im much better now I have had some me time a nice bath and some BH time and now im sleep as so better be off while my :angel: is asleep.

Sorry for no personals will try tomorrow!

Seems like its bad days all round today...

My DD was doing exactly this a couple of weeks ago, but her feeding frenzey was from 6pm till 10 or 11. It was doing my head in and i was really worried she wasnt getting enough, hence all the feeding, so i rang the ABA and they said its perfectly normal for bubs to cluster feed at this age for a period during the day.
I know its frustrating Sare but hang in there, with my DD it stopped at just over 4 weeks so hopefully you'll be the same. :hugs: