Undecided with immunisation...

[3cherubs]

I know it is a bit early , but i have been thinking lots about not immunising DD3.
I immunised DD1 and DD2, only because i thought well you have to have it done. Being scared something will kill them and not knowing any better.

But, with DD3 i have read lots on Bubhub to support NOT vaccinating her.
I did get the Hep B shot in hospital ( was not going to), but with all that was going on, my mouth blurted out yes and not no.

Where else can i find supportive info on NOT immunising babies...

[stellarella]

Have you had a look through the BH threads??...some of them have huge lists of links and articles from both sides of the argument.

Its really important to look at both sides, you dont just want to go along with what non-vaxers (me being one of them) say either. You really need to make the decision for yourself and with your husband/partner.

ETA: This is a good thread...
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=115545

[stellarella]

A list of resources provided by Kerrin (The_Queen)


Reporting of vaccine reactions in Australia
http://tga.gov.au/adr/bluecard.htm

online reporting for Australia
https://www.tgasime.health.gov.au/SI...f?OpenDatabase


disease stats


Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)
http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/

Report of the New South Wales Chief Health Officer
http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-...c/choindex.htm

Vaccine preventable diseases and vaccination average in Australia, 1999 to 2000
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wc...E/vpd99_00.pdf

Childhood Immunisation Coverage
http://www.ncirs.usyd.edu.au/researc...-3rdquart.html

links straight to Aus. disease stats by year or disease - search
http://www9.health.gov.au/cda/Source/CDA-index.cfm

Australian health stat links
http://www.adelaide.edu.au/library/g...html#Australia

Communicable Diseases Australia
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wc...es+Australia-1

Asthma stats - Australia
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@....7!OpenDocument

WHO
http://www-nt.who.int/immunization_m...fileselect.cfm

Disease Incidence Statistics
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/stats.html

Eurosurveillance - communicable disease surveillance
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/releases/index-02.asp

Vaccine Preventable Diseases and Vaccination Coverage in Australia, 2001 to 2002 - Vaccine preventable diseases (results) (Communicable Diseases Intelligence Vol 28 Suppl 2)
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wc...2c.htm#rubella

Immunization, Vaccines and Biologicals -WHO
http://www.who.int/immunization/en/

vaccine package inserts

List of Australian vaccines - costs - type of vaccine
http://www.vaccinations.com.au/List_...ne_Jan2006.pdf

MMR
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/consumers/cmi/m/MMRII.htm

chickenpox
http://www.gsk.com.au/gskinternet/pu...E/Varilrix.pdf

MMR
http://www.gsk.com.au/gskinternet/pu...LE/Priorix.pdf


HEP B
http://www.gsk.com.au/gskinternet/pu...LE/Engerix.pdf

Haemophilus b conjugate and Hepatitis B Vaccine
http://www.csl.com.au/files/1/Comvax...comva10802.pdf

National Prescribing Service - various vaccine/drug list and ingredients.
http://www.google.com/u/NationalPres...s&sa=Go&domain (http://www.google.com/u/NationalPrescribingService?q=vaccines&sa=Go&domain) s=nps.org.au&sitesearch=nps.org.au


General info sites - against

Assessing increased risk for individual unvaccinated child
http://homepage.mac.com/doctormark/h.../Vax_risk.html

Vaccination Liberation
http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm

Vaccination debate - graphs etc
http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/

General info sites - in the middle


Religious and Ethical Concerns about Vaccination
http://www.immunize.org/concerns/religious.htm


General info sites - for
Immunisation – protecting our children from disease
http://www.science.org.au/nova/012/012print.htm


interesting articles

Thousands of babies have strokes annually
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10347101/

Children who have received no vaccines: who are they and where do they live?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...pt=Abstract&li (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&li) st_uids=15231927&query_hl=2


U.S. Drops In Rank Of Industrialized Nations For Infant Mortality, Life Expectancy
http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/448d6.htm

Hib infection on the rise in children despite vaccination programme
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=4852

Exposure to common infections in early infancy is good and helps "prime" the immune system.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4471957.stm


Heavy price to pay for the spin on vaccinations
http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=418472005


VACCINATIONS NEWS AND ARTICLES
http://www.wnho.net/vaccinationnews.htm

more General Info

Australian Adverse Drug Reactions Bulletin
http://www.tga.gov.au/adr/aadrb.htm

What do rubella antibody tests mean?
http://www.usyd.edu.au/~cidm/page/inoculum/may97.htm

Vaccination policies: individual rights v community health
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/conte.../319/7223/1448

Diabetes Statistics - Incidence in children under 5 years of age has doubled ovary the last 5 years
http://www.jdrf.org.au/publications/...tatistics.html

Med. research

National centre for immunisation research and survellience
http://www.ncirs.usyd.edu.au/

Vaccine components and constituents: responding to consumer concerns
http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/...d10500_fm.html

Younger age at vaccination may increase risk of varicella vaccine failure.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...st_uids=120896 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=120896) 68&dopt=Abstract

Medical Journals - searches available

PubMed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?DB=pubmed


Biochemical journal
http://www.biochemj.org/bj/tocprev/toc2001.htm

Medscape
http://www.medscape.com/home

BJM
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/index.dtl

OVID
http://www.ovid.com/site/index.jsp

JAMA American medical assoc.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/

MJA - medical journal of Australia
http://www.mja.com.au/

PLOS medical - peer reviewed open access journal
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/per...issn=1549-1676

Journal of the national cancer institute
http://jncicancerspectrum.oxfordjournals.org/

The Lancet
http://www.thelancet.com/

The CDC - Centre for disease control and prevention
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/

JCI- Journal of clinical investigation
http://www.pubmedcentral.com/tocrend...ve&journal=120

[Josh]

You should also check out the aust gov immunisation site, there is lots of information there, this site explains what a vaccine contains, and other stuff including allergy's which i was interested in because my son has a severe egg allergy, i haven;t experienced any probs with him.

www.immunise.health.gov.au

[3cherubs]

Thanks for all of that.

[missie_mack]

You should also check out the aust gov immunisation site, there is lots of information there, this site explains what a vaccine contains, and other stuff including allergy's which i was interested in because my son has a severe egg allergy, i haven;t experienced any probs with him.

www.immunise.health.gov.au (http://www.immunise.health.gov.au)

Jodie :wave: Just on a FYI thing.
I read this site as my son also had a severe egg allergy. It advised that the live vaccines did not contain any egg at all but the producers of the vaccine clearly state in their side effects info that it does. It is however considered to be only a small amount. When I enquired about the inconsistancy of the information they admitted that there is a chance but it is subject to discussion with a health professional. They also bear no responsibility for anything going wrong based on the information on the website.

I guess it will depend upon how severe your allergies as to whether it affects you or not but thought it might be worth reading a little more into or asking a few other questions for you...
For us it was too much of a risk and we are selective vaxers. When I started doing more research I was shocked at all the things they dont tell us.

[Josh]

Jodie :wave: Just on a FYI thing.
I read this site as my son also had a severe egg allergy. It advised that the live vaccines did not contain any egg at all but the producers of the vaccine clearly state in their side effects info that it does. It is however considered to be only a small amount. When I enquired about the inconsistancy of the information they admitted that there is a chance but it is subject to discussion with a health professional. They also bear no responsibility for anything going wrong based on the information on the website.

I guess it will depend upon how severe your allergies as to whether it affects you or not but thought it might be worth reading a little more into or asking a few other questions for you...
For us it was too much of a risk and we are selective vaxers. When I started doing more research I was shocked at all the things they dont tell us.

Hi missie_mack, as far as i am aware the chicken pox vax does contain egg, the immunisation site does say this in the myths and realities section, but if you are still unsure check with your doctor.:wave:

[missie_mack]

The MMR also contains egg...:)

[bindiloo]

Heres some more great reading that wasnt in queens list.:D

http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/default.html

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/

http://www.thinktwice.com/stories.htm


http://www.vaccinationnews.com/