View Full Version : Andrew "Joey" Johns ADMITS to long-term drug use
News.com.au story (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22335913-29277,00.html)
I don't know what to say......I guess if you think this is not happening in your favourite club - AFL, NRL, ARU - then you are kidding yourself.
BaDaBing
30-08-2007, 21:06
Of course he intended to take it!! What a loser!
melfunction
30-08-2007, 21:39
He's being interviewed on the Footy Show now.
Another "Oh, I need to escape the pressures of my life" sob story :mad:
Chub Chub
30-08-2007, 21:44
I think it gives an insight how rampant drugs are in our society these days. To be honest it scares the **** out of me!
I think it gives an insight how rampant drugs are in our society these days. To be honest it scares the **** out of me!
Maybe it is us, Chub Chub, that are behind the times? :confused:
melfunction
30-08-2007, 21:50
Alcohol is the biggest problem.
He just stated he'd have 7-8 beers, then wouldn't care what he did. Isn't that just another excuse?
Little_Toad
30-08-2007, 21:52
Can't believe people are in shock that a footballer took drugs!
Ooooo how naughty.
Chub Chub
30-08-2007, 21:52
Maybe it is us, Chub Chub, that are behind the times? :confused:
It is such a part of the party culture....thank god I am passed that and it at the time it wasn't as big as it is now.
I have a younger brother who is at the party age and we freely talk about what is out there.
I have moments of panic when I think about what it will be like when DD is older....ugh. I shudder at the thought.
ifoundmyglory
30-08-2007, 22:04
Can't believe people are in shock that a footballer took drugs!
Ooooo how naughty.
Exactly my thoughts.
Its so common now, Just with footballers its shoved under the carpet. & when found out they get a "slap on the wrist" & a warning.
Drug use is far too common now, especially in the younger youths of the community.
I'm not making excuses for him, but it seems to me that his depression and alcoholism are the main problem for him. I've never suffered from depression so I'm not going to pretend to know how easy or hard his life has been. I guess it's easy to judge when you don't have the whole country watching your mistakes. I don't think he needs to explain anything to anyone, but I commend him for being so open on the footy show. I just hope he gets well and happy soon.
Take it from someone who lives in the same town he does.
That man is put on such a high pedestal- like a god.
Anyone would have some sort of issues with that.
I used to "know" him (he used to go out with a friend of mine) 10 years a go and he was doing it then.
I agree when he says he sufferes depression and i also think that we expect them to be perfect and when they are not then all hell breaks loose.
That being said though- my 6 year old son worships they guy and now i have to explain all this to him in a manner he will understand:banghead:.
I don't know what to say......I guess if you think this is not happening in your favourite club - AFL, NRL, ARU - then you are kidding yourself.
Precisely... its people like Wendell Sailor that you have to feel sorry for in a way sometimes.... particularly when its a case of many many more footballers, etc that would have their livelihoods cut short if they were tested on any given day.....
Can't believe people are in shock that a footballer took drugs!
Ooooo how naughty.
LMAO.... I nearly wet myself laughing at his initial BS story.... it was a deadset joke..... if anyone knows him, half of the knights boys, or many of the ARU or NRL boys for that matter, or the club scene in Newy you'd now exactly how rampant it is.... and exactly how much of a joke Joey really is.....
rynosmum
31-08-2007, 05:27
What I can't understand is why the media is allowing this to be top news and for him to give his side of the 'story'.
This guy is in the public eye, he is an icon to so many kids, he has a duty of care to act in the manner that is in the best interests of those impressionable minds.
He can give all of the excuses in the world but at the end of the day, what type of role model has he been for his fans? It seems that so many of the League players forget this...
Little_Toad
31-08-2007, 05:32
"I took the drugs to escape from the pressure and get away from being a football player," he told The Daily Telegraph tonight.
I hardly believe that... people take drugs cause they have the opportunity to take drugs and cause they are fun! Go away for the weekend if you're stressed! taking pills doesnt releive stress.
And I don't know why people are commending him for coming clean. HE GOT CAUGHT!! he had to own up before it was scandalous, had he not been caught he wouldnt be telling his "story".
The guy has finished his career, who cares what he does now?
I would have told them all to go the hell, This is his time, out of the spotlight in another country, blowing off 12 years of steam.
Yeah it was his pill, he got caught, he shouldn't have made excuses. He should have taken responsibility for his actions, that's being a good role model.
melfunction
31-08-2007, 05:44
And I don't know why people are commending him for coming clean. HE GOT CAUGHT!! he had to own up before it was scandalous, had he not been caught he wouldnt be telling his "story".
Absolutely CORRECT!!
And regarding the "pressures" he has been under for the entirety of his 'career', if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen :hair:
Publicity stunt maybe???? I mean he is back in the limelight now isn't he. Not sure if his ego could handle not being in the news constantly.
I've never understood why he was put up on such a high pedestal in the first place.
What gives me the willies is that he's using the depression excuse... as if to say "There's no other way out guys! But hey, at 12 years and getting caught I'll make sure I say I'll come clean in the hope there'll be a special in a year's time to show my 'journey'."
*sigh*
Another one bites the dust.
charlen49
31-08-2007, 07:00
Take it from someone who lives in the same town he does.
That man is put on such a high pedestal- like a god.
Anyone would have some sort of issues with that.
I used to "know" him (he used to go out with a friend of mine) 10 years a go and he was doing it then.
I agree when he says he sufferes depression and i also think that we expect them to be perfect and when they are not then all hell breaks loose.
That being said though- my 6 year old son worships they guy and now i have to explain all this to him in a manner he will understand:banghead:. Exactly...here in newy people do worship him..bit of a kick in the guts you might say..though not very surprising..feel most sorry for all the young fans...what an idiot!!!!!and i'm a knights fan!:o
charlen49
31-08-2007, 07:04
The guy has finished his career, who cares what he does now?
I would have told them all to go the hell, This is his time, out of the spotlight in another country, blowing off 12 years of steam.
Yeah it was his pill, he got caught, he shouldn't have made excuses. He should have taken responsibility for his actions, that's being a good role model. he had been doing it for the last 10yrs whilst playing!
I've never understood why he was put up on such a high pedestal in the first place.
umm..if you follow league he is one of the greatest players ever to play the game and thats according to all the 'oldies' too!
nemosmum
31-08-2007, 07:12
umm..if you follow league he is one of the greatest players ever to play the game and thats according to all the 'oldies' too!
I think what Ace meant (correct me if im wrong Ace;) )
Is that why do we even put these football players on such a high pedestal in the first place
Yeah footy is a great game I grew up on it but in the end its just a bunch of guys playing with a ball:rolleyes: its not rocket science iykwim
Seriously they do not deserve OR earn so much adulation
Back in the day' the real footy players had real jobs and were too busy working their butts off to support their families to care about being the "IT" boy of League etc
Bring back the old days!
I just thank god my son is more interested in Golf LOL
RedPanda
31-08-2007, 07:16
Exactly Nemosmum! It would be wonderful if our society valued scientists/doctors/mothers/charity workers/teachers in the same way that we value people who can kick a ball or swing a tennis racket.
charlen49
31-08-2007, 07:18
I think what Ace meant (correct me if im wrong Ace;) )
Is that why do we even put these football players on such a high pedestal in the first place
Yeah footy is a great game I grew up on it but in the end its just a bunch of guys playing with a ball:rolleyes: its not rocket science iykwim
Seriously they do not deserve OR earn so much adulation
Back in the day' the real footy players had real jobs and were too busy working their butts off to support their families to care about being the "IT" boy of League etc
Bring back the old days!
I agree....
I just thank god my son is more interested in Golf LOL
lol and it pays heaps more if your good and he could buy mummy lots of nice things!
charlen49
31-08-2007, 07:19
Exactly Nemosmum! It would be wonderful if our society valued scientists/doctors/mothers/charity workers/teachers in the same way that we value people who can kick a ball or swing a tennis racket.ah..i only wish....instead we are treated like dirt most days!!!
It is such a part of the party culture....thank god I am passed that and it at the time it wasn't as big as it is now.
Can I just say that, it's just not the party culture drugs are taken in. It's in everyday life and everyday people take them. I've heard stories of SAHM's taking stuff.
Sorry, didn't mean to hi-jack the thread
Chub Chub
31-08-2007, 07:53
Can I just say that, it's just not the party culture drugs are taken in. It's in everyday life and everyday people take them. I've heard stories of SAHM's taking stuff.
Sorry, didn't mean to hi-jack the thread
For sure.....It isn't just isolated to the football players. Everyday people take it everyday. If you look hard enough it is all around you. Scary!
Maybe it is us, Chub Chub, that are behind the times? :confused:
Well I'm quite happy to be behind the times then I think!
Imagine being so miserable that drugs seem to be a better option than real life. It happens to famous and not famous people. The media needs to stop glorifying it - I just heard Rabby Warren talking about how great Johnsy did while he was on drugs and alcohol - WTF? I can just imagine now all the younger footballers going out and 'scoring' now. Very sad. Keep your children close, girls, and don't let them go down the same path!
Yes in the real world, if we needed to build another race on a different planet, we certainly wouldn't fill the ship with footballers! I think people need to take a step back and see there is more important stuff than football, it's just too commercial.
What I can't understand is why the media is allowing this to be top news and for him to give his side of the 'story'.
This guy is in the public eye, he is an icon to so many kids, he has a duty of care to act in the manner that is in the best interests of those impressionable minds.
He can give all of the excuses in the world but at the end of the day, what type of role model has he been for his fans? It seems that so many of the League players forget this...
Well said :yelclap: What sort of a message is this sending to young kids, you can take drugs, get away with it (well for 10years) and still be a brilliant footballer.
If you choose to be in the public spot light and happly accept all the mony and perks that go along with it, then you have a resposability to set a good example.
Bewitched
31-08-2007, 08:18
I find it interesting that he has never failed a drug test in his career then?? Suppose it depends on what drugs you're taking? I am very naive about drugs :o
However, i am personally very shocked that a man of his stature was caught over such a thing, it's really quite revolting and i feel very sorry for his brother Matty who still works in the spotlight and will probably get a hard time over it :(
charlen49
31-08-2007, 08:26
I find it interesting that he has never failed a drug test in his career then?? Suppose it depends on what drugs you're taking? I am very naive about drugs :o
However, i am personally very shocked that a man of his stature was caught over such a thing, it's really quite revolting and i feel very sorry for his brother Matty who still works in the spotlight and will probably get a hard time over it :( so you think they even tested him???ha right!!!!!!! and santa claus is real!!!:laughing:
HelenHasTwins
31-08-2007, 08:47
Yet another great role model for our children!:no:
All I can say is what a idiot for ruining his career after football.......
IheartOman
31-08-2007, 08:50
Once again I don't see what all the fuss is in talking about someone famous and all the horrible things they do.
Go open your own closets people!
I'm sure you have things you do now and have done which would make you a not-so-great role model IF someone took you based on those things.
We're all human, we all make mistakes and we all have issues to deal with in our lives.
Not much of a shock or us a................
Rumor was going around our footy club a few years back that he was a user of cocaine.
Tosser
IheartOman
31-08-2007, 08:56
Not much of a shock or us a................
Rumor was going around our footy club a few years back that he was a user of cocaine.
Tosser
Just a good example of ignorance.
You've never made a mistake??????????????????????????????????????????? ????????
Jeclipse
31-08-2007, 08:59
Once again I don't see what all the fuss is in talking about someone famous and all the horrible things they do.
Go open your own closets people!
I'm sure you have things you do now and have done which would make you a not-so-great role model IF someone took you based on those things.
We're all human, we all make mistakes and we all have issues to deal with in our lives.
I totally agree with u....
after reading through these posts its really sad how judgemental everyone is being towards this poor man .. FOR MAKING ONE WRONG CHOICE... u arent in his shoes so u dont know whether or not he really is depressed about his courier and is probably trying to escape from all of it...
Once again I don't see what all the fuss is in talking about someone famous and all the horrible things they do.
Go open your own closets people!
I'm sure you have things you do now and have done which would make you a not-so-great role model IF someone took you based on those things.
We're all human, we all make mistakes and we all have issues to deal with in our lives.
Well said!!
charlen49
31-08-2007, 09:04
Well said!!i agree!!!!!!!!
Once again I don't see what all the fuss is in talking about someone famous and all the horrible things they do.
Go open your own closets people!
I'm sure you have things you do now and have done which would make you a not-so-great role model IF someone took you based on those things.
We're all human, we all make mistakes and we all have issues to deal with in our lives.
The difference is he choose to be in the spot light and to be a role model to people.
This is not "ONE WRONG CHOICE" this is someing he has been doing for his entire football career and is ILLEGAL.
The only sympathy I have is for his family especially his brother
Once again I don't see what all the fuss is in talking about someone famous and all the horrible things they do.
Go open your own closets people!
I'm sure you have things you do now and have done which would make you a not-so-great role model IF someone took you based on those things.
We're all human, we all make mistakes and we all have issues to deal with in our lives.
Agreed to a small degree - however most of us are not highly paid professional athletes who take on a moral responsibility to represent their club, their sponsors, their profession and be a good role model. The Joey Johns and Ben Cousins of this world are very different to you and I.
Unfortunately, they are able to be judged - it goes with the territory.
This guy was a role model to the young ones, when you are given that responsibility you have to live up to it, eitherwise don't choose that profession.
I am sorry you can give all of his excuses, but hey depression is a good one to use isn't it, what a fool he is! Depression is most likely caused by his illegal drug use, just look at our Mental health system the majority of people who suffer mental illness either have been marijuana users or have taken Drugs socially or daily to eleviate normal emotions that we all have and get ourselves perked up with out the use of illegal drugs. DRUGS ARE MAJOR A FACTOR IN DEPRESSION for that very reason that they want a quick fix they get it with Drugs then they come down hard again and want another quick fix cause they don't want to deal with their emotions.
We all have problems there are ways of coping you don't need Drugs and our kids are not getting the message from these idiots.
i am so worried that our kids are getting such bad role models.
I have never tried Drugs and do not have the urge to ever try them, but it doesn't mean that i don't suffer hardship, i just find other ways to help myself.
i can't believe that on the radio today a young guy made the comment " see drugs is not all bad you can get positive stories from using Drugs":eek:
so so sad
This is my opinion.
After reading the the front page of the Courier mail today i have this to say ...
Oh Please.......I am tired of hearing I was under pressure........FFS.....he was under pressure....yeah must be tough collecting 1000's of dollars to play football........what about the poor cabbie that has to work 18 hours a day to put food on the table for his family, or the men and women that are overseas with the armed forces that earn a tenth of his salary....that is pressure. Andrew Johns and the rest of the football world needs to take a reality check and understand what real pressure is..........bottomline... ..he is a druggie and now he has been busted.
Funny isn't it when they get caught the old excuses come out....."it wasn't mine", no wait "I was under pressure", hang on "I suffer from depression".
Sorry if this offends anyone.
I just want to add that some people that are depressed do take drugs. It's a way of masking what the real problems are and not wanting to deal with them. Take it from someone who has been there, done that
This guy (sorry i'm from SA and have abosolutely no idea who this guy is) could've had issues that we don't know about. I also think this guy was under a lot of pressure. He might be getting paid the big bucks to play a sport but he's at a top level and you don't get there by sitting on your a$$
I just want to add that some people that are depressed do take drugs. It's a way of masking what the real problems are and not wanting to deal with them. Take it from someone who has been there, done that
This guy (sorry i'm from SA and have abosolutely no idea who this guy is) could've had issues that we don't know about. I also think this guy was under a lot of pressure. He might be getting paid the big bucks to play a sport but he's at a top level and you don't get there by sitting on your a$$
It wasnt a personal attack on people with depression. Itan excuse used by so many players, and they think the public will feel sorry for them
canberramomma
31-08-2007, 12:04
I agree with some of the previous posts that alcohol is a much bigger problem. If he had been caught already intoxicated, with a slab of beer on his shoulder, we probably wouldn't have heard about it at all. Both of my lil brothers are in the footy culture and they both drink too much every day and heaps on weekends. I worry more about that than DH having a joint every night.
I just want to add that some people that are depressed do take drugs. It's a way of masking what the real problems are and not wanting to deal with them. Take it from someone who has been there, done that
This guy (sorry i'm from SA and have abosolutely no idea who this guy is) could've had issues that we don't know about. I also think this guy was under a lot of pressure. He might be getting paid the big bucks to play a sport but he's at a top level and you don't get there by sitting on your a$$
Only a minority do take them for depression, but majority use it as an excuse and depression is usually triggered from the Drug use.
Facts are that Drugs and mental illness are related.(even with mild daily marijuana use)
It will shock you if you have ever worked in a Geriatrics ward the amount of cases are from people who have used marijuana as there daily fix. ( this is another subject).
Maybe we should have our children tour these wards and they can see for themselves what social Drug taking can do to you.
As for drinking to the excess that is just as bad. Liver damage from excessive drinkling can nevere be reversed alot of young ones do not realise this and that many die from Liver poison from just one night of binge drinking.
After reading the the front page of the Courier mail today i have this to say ...
Oh Please.......I am tired of hearing I was under pressure........FFS.....he was under pressure....yeah must be tough collecting 1000's of dollars to play football........what about the poor cabbie that has to work 18 hours a day to put food on the table for his family, or the men and women that are overseas with the armed forces that earn a tenth of his salary....that is pressure. Andrew Johns and the rest of the football world needs to take a reality check and understand what real pressure is..........bottomline... ..he is a druggie and now he has been busted.
Funny isn't it when they get caught the old excuses come out....."it wasn't mine", no wait "I was under pressure", hang on "I suffer from depression".
Sorry if this offends anyone.
I agree...didn't offend me. Must be so hard to be under pressure...it's something only a footballer would understand obviously :rolleyes:
And Nemosmum that's exactly what I meant, thankyou. I'm not impressed by footballer's full stop and don't understand what is so fantastic about them. How wonderful that they excel in something...good for them.
Bo0tifuL
31-08-2007, 12:34
Ok this is what i think, He is a human being. We all make mistakes and i think this is a learning step for him! I think he is lucky he got caught coz the next thing would have been death. I do not condone drugs anywhere any time, but everyone knows some one that uses or has used. They made mistakes and we deal with it. Makes me think how many other football players are using? i think they should be tested more. But i think this has probably helped him!
charlen49
31-08-2007, 12:36
I agree...didn't offend me. Must be so hard to be under pressure...it's something only a footballer would understand obviously :rolleyes:
And Nemosmum that's exactly what I meant, thankyou. I'm not impressed by footballer's full stop and don't understand what is so fantastic about them. How wonderful that they excel in something...good for them. umm im not impressed by them either! i misinterpreted what you were asking;)
I was flicking threw channels last night and seen his interview on the footy show. I thought it was a mock or something but they were really getting into it :eek: . Its such a shame :thumbsdown:
Ok this is what i think, He is a human being. We all make mistakes and i think this is a learning step for him! I think he is lucky he got caught coz the next thing would have been death. I do not condone drugs anywhere any time, but everyone knows some one that uses or has used. They made mistakes and we deal with it. Makes me think how many other football players are using? i think they should be tested more. But i think this has probably helped him!
Yes of course he is a human being and he is also a role model to many little kids. The media should not be making excuses for what he has done. He has made a mistake, a huge one and he should have to deal with the consequences, not be getting pats on the back and told how fantastically he dealt with drug and alcohol abuse...
Brittney Spears, Lindsay Lohan etc. were role models for young girls once upon a time too, they aren't getting patted on the back for their behaviour.
charlen49
31-08-2007, 12:39
I've never understood why he was put up on such a high pedestal in the first place.
i thought you were asking this from a football loving perspective..didnt realise you didnt like the game at all..football lovers who like other players often ask this question..sorry my mistake:rolleyes:
umm im not impressed by them either! i misinterpreted what you were asking;)
sorry, that wasn't aimed at you! Should've thought before I posted how that would come across!
charlen49
31-08-2007, 12:42
sorry, that wasn't aimed at you! Should've thought before I posted how that would come across!no probs.....i feel most sorry for his child and family(especially his parents)..having first hand experience of being around people many years ago affected by drugs..it always the families that suffer the most!
EmsMum72
31-08-2007, 12:51
I do not condone what Joey Johns has done, he definately hasn't set a good example for our kids on the taking drugs/drinking side of things. However, he is still a good role model in that he has worked extremely hard to be the great player that he is/was. I think it's sad that even though he was idolised by so many people, and has lots of money he was so depressed that he had to resort to taking drugs. He said in his interview that alot of times he didn't go out with the intention of taking drugs, but had 7 or 8 drinks and just didn't care. Which, as anyone who has ever been drunk would know, you tend not to care or think clearly when under the influence of alcohol (not that drinking alot of alcohol is good either).
I can understand why football players are idolised, what little boy doesn't want to be the next Joey Johns or David Beckham, or what little girl doesn't want to be the next Serena Williams (or whatever sport the child loves). Their lives seem glamorous, they are rich, they play the sport they love and get paid for it but it just goes to show that the 'perfect lives' these people live aren't necessarily so perfect at all.
I don't think we should take away from the fact that Joey Johns worked extremely hard to get to where he is/was, constantly putting his body on the line week in and week out, and I'm sure that constantly living in the lime light would be difficult, whether he asked for it or not.
I think it was incredibly brave of him to come out on national tv and admit to what he's been doing, he could have just skulked away and not faced his responsibilities and he would have always been 'that w@nker who used to be a great rugby league player but he took drugs and fell off the face of the earth'. Again I don't condone it, but he is a human being who has made many mistakes and hopefully he can get the help he needs! He has to deal with the humiliation of his actions, and try to explain to his son & his family that he has made stupid decisions. I'm sure there are many other sports stars who dabble in these sorts of recreational drugs, especially during the off season.
This is just my opinion!
Only a minority do take them for depression, but majority use it as an excuse and depression is usually triggered from the Drug use.
I totally agree with you there, but what I was saying is that, maybe he was depressed BEFORE he started taking drugs. I know I was depressed before I got hooked into doing some stupid stuff.
I just wanted to give another point of view for those who think that he was using depression as an EXCUSE. It might have been the case.
hayleylea
31-08-2007, 13:54
I must admit the news of this didnt shock me at all. But i think its because I know how rampant drugs are these days - They are EVERYWHERE. Ectasy is a widely used recreational drug...and you would be surpised how easiliy available it is to just about anyone. I dont condone the behaviour of Johns actually taking it, or anyone for that matter. I guess what im trying to get across is he was one of the unlucky ones that got caught. The reasons footballers and sports people dabble in these sorts of drugs (not saying ALL of them do! cause i dont have a clue but i would assume there are alot) is because things like Cocaine and ectasy are only in your system for a short amount of time not like the likes of Pot etc.
I think he may have went the wrong way about it at first by making up stories. In the end he did come clean and was honest and i agree with what other people have said he has family to answer to now. He was and still is and i think will always be a role model for all the little boys and girls out there for what they idolise him for - FOOTBALL. Yeah he stuffed up, but Im telling you now he wouldnt be or isnt the only one that gets pulled up weekly/daily carrying an estacy tablet. Depression and being in the lime light may not be the ideal excuse but lets face it it seems to be a trent in people who are positions of fame and idolisation - turning to drugs. I dont know ive never been in a state of depression but i dont agree with him using that as a 'way out'.
The world today is a scary place, to think just about anyone, kid or adult can go out on the street and get these drugs is just mind blowing..makes you wonder whats going to happen 10-20 years down the track!
JMO anyway - hope i dont rub anyone up the wrong way!
I'm newcastle born and bred,but i'm not a Andrew Johns fan, my mum is a dedicated fan and she cried when she heard about it, we are all a little stunned up here, most novacastrians know him as a drinker, but we didn't know about his drug problem,:shame: my son plays footy, so the kids are who he has to tell that drugs are not on, they are a no go zone.:no::no:
IheartOman
31-08-2007, 16:40
The difference is he choose to be in the spot light and to be a role model to people.
This is not "ONE WRONG CHOICE" this is someing he has been doing for his entire football career and is ILLEGAL.
The only sympathy I have is for his family especially his brother
To this post and all the ones similar I say this-
YOU are a role model to your kids and many people around you, young, middle aged or old. YOU have things about you which are NOT role model worthy (if I base what is worthy off peoples opinions in this thread). YOU have made mistakes. YOU will make more mistakes as your go through your journey in life. YOU are not perfect. YOU do something you love, whether it be a SAHM, a office worker or a labourer, if your job was under spotlight you would also have the fingers pointed at you just as this football player is having done to him at the moment.
Get off your high horses.
Remember, when you point the finger, there are 4 fingers pointing back at you...
(and if you don't get that saying then don't even bother quoting me).
To this post and all the ones similar I say this-
YOU are a role model to your kids and many people around you, young, middle aged or old. YOU have things about you which are NOT role model worthy (if I base what is worthy off peoples opinions in this thread). YOU have made mistakes. YOU will make more mistakes as your go through your journey in life. YOU are not perfect. YOU do something you love, whether it be a SAHM, a office worker or a labourer, if your job was under spotlight you would also have the fingers pointed at you just as this football player is having done to him at the moment.
Get off your high horses.
Remember, when you point the finger, there are 4 fingers pointing back at you...
(and if you don't get that saying then don't even bother quoting me).
Yikes, settle a little. Some people have very strong views about drugs and if they have lost faith in Johns or the game then they are entitled to feel that way.
Interesting point about parent's being role models - Johns had to tell his own 7 year-old child.
charlen49
31-08-2007, 16:57
Interesting point about parent's being role models - Johns had to tell his own 7 year-old child.
thats right and i wouldnt want to be in hishoes at this moment..no way hozay!!:no:
IheartOman
31-08-2007, 16:58
"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people."
Eleanor Roosevelt
:yes:
Interesting point about parent's being role models - Johns had to tell his own 7 year-old child.
That's right, and I believe that's why he has come out with the truth. He could've lied his way out of it. He could've not spoken at all. He is teaching his son (and other kids) that we all make mistakes, but that the right thing to do is tell the truth, take responsibility and accept the consequences. Drug taking was not good role modelling, but his confession is.
That's right, and I believe that's why he has come out with the truth. He could've lied his way out of it. He could've not spoken at all. He is teaching his son (and other kids) that we all make mistakes, but that the right thing to do is tell the truth, take responsibility and accept the consequences. Drug taking was not good role modelling, but his confession is.
I'm going to argue this point - but please, my tongue is firmly in my cheek - he has only confessed because he was caught. It wasn't because he needed to clear his conscience in the first instance. :laughing:
EmsMum72
31-08-2007, 21:21
he has only confessed because he was caught. It wasn't because he needed to clear his conscience in the first instance. :laughing:
Very true .... but he could have continued on with the lie 'oh yeah someone put it in my pocket and I don't know who it was or why they put it in my pocket, I don't do drugs :ecomcity: ' and then could have just faded away into obscurity but he chose to come forward and to admit what he has been doing over the past 10 years (he could have said he'd tried it once but admitted to using for a long period of time), that he has problems and that he hopes to be able to deal with them.
At the end of the day, Joey doesn't have much to worry about. Ben Cousins has made a reasonably successful return to footy, so if Joey gets the help that he needs all will soon be forgiven (but perhaps not forgotten) and he'll return to hero and legend status before he knows it.
canberramomma
01-09-2007, 19:32
So. After celebrities and sports people letting "our kids" down time after time, shouldn't we look at what we, as parents, hold up as role models for our kids. After all, they don't just pick these people out of thin air. We do have a huge influence on our kids.
jellybellybean
01-09-2007, 20:29
What I think is fantastic is that hemanaged to battle depression and alcohol and drug abuse and was still able to be the best of the best in his chosen sport!! He is just a guy playing football, he never asked to be any one's role model and I think it is ridiculous of society to elevate people to god status, only to be disappointed when they fall.. Crazy!
Bewitched
02-09-2007, 07:13
What I think is fantastic is that hemanaged to battle depression and alcohol and drug abuse and was still able to be the best of the best in his chosen sport!! He is just a guy playing football, he never asked to be any one's role model and I think it is ridiculous of society to elevate people to god status, only to be disappointed when they fall.. Crazy!
Even though i have already added my two cents worth early on in this thread, i just wanted to say this is a very interesting view :yes:
I think that Andrew Johns was overpaid and overated, but up here in newy no one is even talking about it much, the other newy girls might disagree, anyway life goes on he wont be the last high profile sportsman to take drugs.:shame:
I think that Andrew Johns was overpaid and overated, but up here in newy no one is even talking about it much, the other newy girls might disagree, anyway life goes on he wont be the last high profile sportsman to take drugs.:shame:
Hmm- not sure but everyone i have seen over the weekend had wanted to talk about nothing else.
Personally, im not a fan of the man BUT i am a fan of his football. I think that he has probably reached rock bottom now and i guess the only way to go from here is up?
His physcologist (sp?) or psychiatrist has come out and confirmed the man is suffering Bi Polar.
So, i guess, he has done incredibly well to get so far in the game.
Think about it like this-
the guy cant walk out his door without being recognised and hassled.
He goes out and people pick fights with him because of who he is.
He is labelled "the greatest player of all time".
Men, women and children ask him to sign bits of paper everywhere he goes.
The guy can not simply walk down to the shops to get a loaf of bread.
He is under enormous pressure 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week and there is no escape for him.
All that is enough to drive the most sane person a little crazy.
Its a shame we couldnt show him a little bit of compassion.
I actually feel for him but i feel terrible for his poor family.
Well i didn't 'buy' his confession on the Footy Show, to me he didn't seem sincere at all, more disappointed he was finally caught and outed about it. I have a zero tolerance to drugs/alcohol myself i don't understand the point of it, so i just cannot relate to why someone would want to go down that path. God everyone has stresses in their lives and not everyone turns to drugs. He took it cause he could and he isn't the first and won't be the last, drugs are sadly everywhere these days!
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