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Africamum
28-08-2007, 11:19
My heart goes out to these parents

two week old mauled by dog (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=290344)


This is just a tragedy.

nemosmum
28-08-2007, 11:27
awww my goodness that is awful


:crying: :crying: :crying:

that poor baby and her parents!

It just goes to show you dogs can be so dangerous:no:

DivinelySophistimicated
28-08-2007, 11:27
That is awful!! Oh dear.....I would not know how to deal with that...Why was the massive dog inside in the first place...and left alone near the baby??? Hrmm.....Poor people

westerner
28-08-2007, 11:31
I find it hard to believe the fate of the dog is unknown..
I can tell you exactly what the fate of that dog would be if i was the one making decisions..

Rip little angel :angel:
My heart goes out to the parents and there family..

Such a tragedy..

the_original_duchess
28-08-2007, 11:32
that is terribe. RIP baby girl. my heart goes out to the family:crying:

SixtiesChild
28-08-2007, 11:33
:no: Poor little baby girl :no:

andrewsmum
28-08-2007, 11:33
Just read this...

The poor family :hugs: :crying:

cheezelkat
28-08-2007, 11:35
Poor family:hugs: :(

RIP little angel.

RoarsomeMum
28-08-2007, 11:35
I am glad we have brought the 2 metre metal baby gates..

I know I would have been vigilant anyway, but these stories remind me just how vigilant I need to be.

Poor Poor Family. :crying: :crying: :crying:

moonblossom
28-08-2007, 11:37
Letting a dog roam the house with a newborn, well would anyone expect different?

Bewitched
28-08-2007, 11:42
That poor family, how utterly tragic :crying: I don't trust any dogs near my babies, even dogs i know very well...just too unpredictable as they get so jealous.

Billy
28-08-2007, 11:42
:gloomy: What a tragedy for this family, no amounts of 'should'ves' or 'why didn't we just...' will bring her back.

RIP angel :angel:, my heart goes out to all involved. :crying:

BreakfastatTiffanys
28-08-2007, 11:51
OMG poor little baby.

What do they mean fate of the dog unknown? WTF

RIP:angel:

~Alicia
28-08-2007, 11:56
Oh that's awful :(

I can't understand why they're not sure what to do with the dog either. I know that some people consider their dogs their children. But when it kills one of your actualy children.....?

RIP little one :(

Elfin
28-08-2007, 13:09
I think the parents thought the dog was outside but it snuck in, anyway that is what I just heard on the radio. Just such a tragedy and just shows you cannot trust any dog with babies and small children.

punkbaby
28-08-2007, 13:13
THats so horrible you never can trust a dog any dog around a baby. I know as horrible as it sounds that dog wouldnt be alive now if it was mine.
How could they not know the dog was in the babies room, natural instinct for a dog to be jelous if they were there before bubs was.

How sad :(

whatwasithinking
28-08-2007, 13:21
This was a tragic accident - nothing more and nothing less.

Please stop blaming the parents! Stop saying "how could they not know the dog was in the room" blah blah.

They are dealing with this tragedy badly as it is without feeling worse than they do!

Shows dogs are unpredicable! This is precisely why I don't have ANY PETS!!!!

Thoughts are with the family at this terrible time.

RoarsomeMum
28-08-2007, 13:31
Please stop blaming the parents! Stop saying "how could they not know the dog was in the room" blah blah.


I think more people are blaming the dog actually.... and to be honest.. the parents should bear more responsibilty than the animal they also failed to protect.. Of COURSE it was a horrible accident.. But they still need to take responsibility..

RIP poor little angel.. I know the parents will have learnt a very very very hard lesson in the most tragic way possible.

mumstar
28-08-2007, 13:33
this is so sad... rip little baby, you are with the angels so safe now...

mummajuice
28-08-2007, 13:40
Poor little baby.

I think the parents are going through more than enough at the moment and I don't think that they need our judgements or "I would" "I can't", etc We are too quick to pass blame without remembering that accidents can happen in an instant - that's why they're called accidents.

Rest in Peace sleeping angel :angel:

Pippi Longstocking
28-08-2007, 13:46
Why why why do we always need to lay blame when tragedies involving children occur? It's callous, unfair and insensitive. Let the parents grieve without adding to their pain. :shame:

Those poor people. How terrible for them.

HelenHasTwins
28-08-2007, 13:55
I agree, how horrible they must feel:crying:

our little treasures
28-08-2007, 14:00
Letting a dog roam the house with a newborn, well would anyone expect different?

Yes I actually agree with you mb!

Poor family but I really feel for the baby the suffering and such a short life:gloomy:

mum_inlove
28-08-2007, 14:06
R.I.P. little baby..

My heart goes out for her family..:crying:

It's such a tragic story..I was even more shock when I learnt that the dog was a husky. We have a husky, and he's the most gentle dog I've ever come across..I only heard him barks one or twice ever since we have him. Shows that dogs or animals in general are just unpredictable..:(

javalava
28-08-2007, 14:07
2 weeks old..... thats just horrible. I do feel for the parents... they will pay for this for the rest of their lives. Blaming themselves etc.

If it were me i wouldnt still be here. I couldnt live after that. So sad.

mikaylasmummy
28-08-2007, 14:12
:crying: :( My heart and prayers go out to her and her family :crying: :crying:

Myztik
28-08-2007, 14:20
RIP little bubba :(:(

BoyCrazy
28-08-2007, 14:41
Im sorry to say this, but Any pet around newborns is just plain crazy...its not just dogs people...how about the cats that go and sit on the faces of babies to get the "warm breath"??

My heart & prayers go out to the family, RIP little angel

Sheer Bliss
28-08-2007, 14:43
Poor family - this is a huge tragedy for them.


Letting a dog roam the house with a newborn, well would anyone expect different?

Another news article stated that both parents thought the dog was outside

Just another point too.....the media sensationalises everything - 'maul' is a word that makes everyone thing there was intent & malice in the act. The dog may have been simply trying to pick the baby up - it would not be hard for a big dog to do fatal damage to the tender head of a 2week old baby. Maybe it's time for some of us to use our heads a little more, realise that the media will not have given us the full picture, they want it to sound as drastic as possible so they get more hits on their website.

Miaow
28-08-2007, 14:45
Poor Baby :crying:

juzzy
28-08-2007, 14:50
Poor baby, what a tragedy.

:gloomy: :crying:

sueliz
28-08-2007, 14:53
I agree with those who are shocked at the blame being laid here as well. The parents thought the dog was outside, the newborn baby was in a cot. I would never have thought that something like this could happen if you are sure the dog is outside and bubs is safe and sound in a cot.
Events like this are tragic enough and the parents are going to spend the rest of their lives already thinking they should have or could of been more careful/more vigilant and will be laying enough blame on themselves as it is. They certainly don't need strangers doing this for them as well.
RIP little baby - and my heart goes out to a family in grief.

Mamalicious
28-08-2007, 14:54
Im sorry to say this, but Any pet around newborns is just plain crazy...its not just dogs people...how about the cats that go and sit on the faces of babies to get the "warm breath"??

My heart & prayers go out to the family, RIP little angel

Exactly why I am not a pet person.

That poor poor baby, BIG HUGS to the parents too, I can only imagine the guilt.

I know exactly what that dogs "FATE" would be...

bronny-jane
28-08-2007, 14:56
omg i dont even want to think about what the bub would have gone through:crying:
i could only imagine that your heart would stop beating if this was your own baby it happened too... :crying:

i dont see a need for blame either, blaming someone doesnt make you a better person...
its just so sad, and could of happened to any family..

im going to take from this that even though i watch the dog around the kids, i will pay even more attention now, make sure he isnt feeling jealous....
i would never be able to handle it if something happened:crying:

RoarsomeMum
28-08-2007, 14:58
I guess I was judging myself.. I have 2 large breed dogs. I want to LEARN from these parents mistakes.. By Judging them as responsible, I was reaffirming to myself that *I* need to be responsible for making sure our bubs is safe from Jay and Asi, and that i can't just THINK they are outside.. I have to be vigilant every second.. I am so sorry for what that family is going through.. and I am glad its only a lesson for me.. not a reality. (and hopefully never will be) :fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed:

mum2littleman
28-08-2007, 15:01
that poor baby and her parents:crying: :angel:

Pippi Longstocking
28-08-2007, 15:07
im going to take from this that even though i watch the dog around the kids, i will pay even more attention now, make sure he isnt feeling jealous....



I have to be vigilant every second.. I am so sorry for what that family is going through.. and I am glad its only a lesson for me.. not a reality. (and hopefully never will be) :fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed:


:yes:
I think that that is the best thing people can take from tragic events like this. Using it as an opportunity to learn rather than condemn gives some sense to an otherwise awful situation.

bronny-jane
28-08-2007, 15:09
oh and another thing, you dont have to own a dog to have one come into your house, when dd1 was a few weeks old, we had a huge dog, i swear it was a polar bear...come onto our verandah....i heard a noise outside opened the door and it came in, i took us ages to get it out, it was huge... it had been scared by firecrackers, and made its way to our house.....

Samaras Mummy
28-08-2007, 15:29
Thats so sad.

RIP lil one.

pinkishbunny
28-08-2007, 15:34
Its shocking news!!! Hope the dog gets put down!!!! If it hasnt already!!

Shanaynay
28-08-2007, 15:43
Letting a dog roam the house with a newborn, well would anyone expect different?
People don't generally expect their beloved family pet to maul their newborns in their cots :gloomy:
And you just don't knjow the circumstances, perhaps the dog 'snuck' inside when no one was looking. My dog does that often.

Very sad, I don't think it means they were neglectful parents, just that you can never be too careful with dogs and children, no matter how much you trust your dog..... :(

Bron
28-08-2007, 17:57
I just heard on the radio news that the baby was asleep in her cot and the dog took the baby from the cot. So please everyone, let's not make comments about the parents leaving their baby alone with a dog. A cot seems like a safe place.

Those poor poor parents, how utterly heartbreaking for them.

moonblossom
28-08-2007, 17:58
When I was pregnant with Alexander, my dog and 2 cats went to live on my parents farm. There was no way I would risk his safety, even though I loved them dearly and because they are happy at the farm, they are staying there now.

I think it takes something simple, like my eldest son nearly being mauled by our family dog many years ago, to realise the dangers of even the most innocent pet around newborns.

Of course I feel terrible for the parents, but I feel even worse for the baby.

God rest her soul :angel:

mum2bubba
28-08-2007, 20:32
Poor little bubba. :crying:

♥Heaven Sent♥
28-08-2007, 20:41
Poor little bubba :( and the parents,may the litte angel rest in peace.

lotti
28-08-2007, 21:00
So sad. :(

ZooKeeper
28-08-2007, 21:02
that was such a heart-breaking thing. poor bubba, it made me go and kiss starfish and cuddle her extra when I heard it.

note about breeds tho -- huskies are not good dogs with little kids, where they come from they are working dogs, and are not allowed inside, or near children. They've been bred to be tough dogs with a strong pack mentality. built to pull sleds long distances as a team in horrible weather. The bite has been left in that breed.

blue cattle dogs, german shepherds, many kinds of working dogs are not often safe around littlies.

there's a reason labradors are so popular with families, because they are so safe with children, it's been bred into them.

I'm totally careful about our dog and our cats when it comes to bubba because I would never be able to forgive myself if anything happened. the only pets I trust near her alone is the goldfish.

Nowhere
28-08-2007, 21:09
:angel: Poor baby and the family what a horrible tragedy

It sickens me to think so manny people on her are blaming laying blame on the parent, do you have no compassion, its a dreadful tragedy where a baby has lost her life and her parents i cant imagine how they must feel, I'm just thankful they likely wont read this thread as they are likely to upset and traumatized to.

RIP :angel:

MilkOnTap
28-08-2007, 21:10
Oh my goodness... The poor family...

RIP little girl :angel:

little mermaid
28-08-2007, 21:19
That is the eason why I hate animal, I just have no trust in them.

Those poor parents, how will they ever get over this?I heard on the radio that they are both under sedation:crying: I feel so sorry for them with this terrible accident happening to them. AN ACCIDENT PEOPLES!!!!!!!!

Please stop blaming the parents.

angelickaren
28-08-2007, 21:25
I just heard on the radio news that the baby was asleep in her cot and the dog took the baby from the cot. So please everyone, let's not make comments about the parents leaving their baby alone with a dog. A cot seems like a safe place.

Those poor poor parents, how utterly heartbreaking for them.

i totally agree with bron here.
its a horrible thing to happen :gloomy:
RIP little Angel:angel:

Areca
28-08-2007, 21:41
that was such a heart-breaking thing. poor bubba, it made me go and kiss starfish and cuddle her extra when I heard it.

note about breeds tho -- huskies are not good dogs with little kids, where they come from they are working dogs, and are not allowed inside, or near children. They've been bred to be tough dogs with a strong pack mentality. built to pull sleds long distances as a team in horrible weather. The bite has been left in that breed.

blue cattle dogs, german shepherds, many kinds of working dogs are not often safe around littlies.

there's a reason labradors are so popular with families, because they are so safe with children, it's been bred into them.

I'm totally careful about our dog and our cats when it comes to bubba because I would never be able to forgive myself if anything happened. the only pets I trust near her alone is the goldfish.



Whilst I agree with what you have said about husky's I don't agree with what you have said about Labs...not all of them are so safe with children. Like any breed, to ensure you get the best characteristics of that breed you need to go to a reputable breeder. Unfortunately labs are such popular dogs that there is lots of back yard breeding going on and not all labs have that friendly, fun loving, family nature that they have the reputation for. I can think of four labs instantly off the top of my head that I wouldn't et anywhere near my daughter and I don't know that many people with labs.

It's fair to say, that no matter what the breed of dog it always pays to be careful. I'm a dog lover and will always have a dog in my house. My DD and my dog are best friends but that doesn't mean they are ever left alone together.

It's very sad what happened, that poor family. No judgement or passing of blame here, there's just not enough information to even guess what happened.

charlen49
29-08-2007, 07:20
i totally agree with bron here.
its a horrible thing to happen :gloomy:
RIP little Angel:angel:i agree poor bubba and family just tragic!


that was such a heart-breaking thing. poor bubba, it made me go and kiss starfish and cuddle her extra when I heard it.

note about breeds tho -- huskies are not good dogs with little kids, where they come from they are working dogs, and are not allowed inside, or near children. They've been bred to be tough dogs with a strong pack mentality. built to pull sleds long distances as a team in horrible weather. The bite has been left in that breed.

blue cattle dogs, german shepherds, many kinds of working dogs are not often safe around littlies.

there's a reason labradors are so popular with families, because they are so safe with children, it's been bred into them.

I'm totally careful about our dog and our cats when it comes to bubba because I would never be able to forgive myself if anything happened. the only pets I trust near her alone is the goldfish. I believe that people should be wary of all pets around children not be complacent with with those animals seen as good with children..because they too have breaking points...i havent found it..but a few years ago..dp was telling me a list came out of dogs most likely to 'turn' on children and i was shocked to discover maltese terriors and jack russels were at the top of list..we have 2of these'house' dogs and when we came home from hospital with bub the jack/maltese cross displayed signs of jealousy..we asked a vet what to do before bub came to the house..she said until bub comes not much..but to slowly introduce bub smell when she does and never leave them alone with her..recently the jackrussel has beared teeth at her as she has crawled closer to him..which upset me and dp threw him out of the house..its scary because he is usually a very quite dog..but u never know...and bub was more than a metre away from him..but the dog obviously like the fact that she was invading his space..but i guess u just never know so best to proceed with caution..anyhow getting back to those poor parents..i would have and do leave bubs in the cot for short periods and safety..also it helps them to learn independence from their parents and that mum/dad will be back shortly!

Noah_and_Elijah
29-08-2007, 07:22
Letting a dog roam the house with a newborn, well would anyone expect different?

I agree with this comment. While it is a tragedy what this family has to go through, why would you let a dog roam free in the house?

Common sense would tell you that animals belong outside, especially when there are children in the house.

RIP little angel. :angel:

Pippi Longstocking
29-08-2007, 07:24
I agree with this comment. While it is a tragedy what this family has to go through, why would you let a dog roam free in the house?

Common sense would tell you that animals belong outside, especially when there are children in the house.

RIP little angel. :angel:

Did you read the whole thread? It has been mentioned a few times that the baby was "safe" in a cot and both parents thought the dog was outside.

Noah_and_Elijah
29-08-2007, 07:27
Yes I did read the whole thread.

I do think it's an awful thing that's happened and I feel terrible for the family involved but I just find it hard to believe that a dog can 'sneak' inside and find its way to a sleeping baby.

But I'm also not a believer of having children AND animals. One or the other.

Some may not agree with me but that's my opinion.

Angelmist♥
29-08-2007, 07:30
:crying: :crying: RIP little :angel:How horrible for everyone involved:gloomy:

~mia&ryan~
29-08-2007, 07:43
This makes me sick!

When Ethan was 2 weeks old, i was BF him on the couch and our 60KG Alaskan Malamute came up to him and bit him on the head. I kick him away and jumped up absolutly shocked and beside myself. Ethan was SCREAMING.

I loved my beautiful dog, he was my best friend and i adored him but he had to go.

Still kills me to think about that day.

I came so close to losing him under the same circumstances. Makes me shudder.

Never ever trust your dogs alone with your children. No matter what.

That poor poor family. :gloomy:
OMG how scary for you!!! I am glad your little bubba is okay!!:hugs:

My heart truly goes out to the family of that poor little bubba girl, she never even got to have a chance at life.. So tragic...:angel: RIP little angel...

draught
29-08-2007, 07:46
I am very disappointed to read the judgement and blame that people are posting at the time of such a terrible tragedy. those poor parents were behaving in a responsible manner, doing everything that they were meant to do and have lost their precious baby in horrible circumstances. Please, instead of casting blame send a prayer or thought their way that they can heal and cope with this terrible loss.