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Alana13
26-08-2007, 11:37
Hi!
Just wondering if any mums experience sleep regressions with their bubs?
My son (is 4 months this week) was sleeping thru but has now started waking every 3 hours at night, he wants to BF (I thought maybe it was a growth spurt) which I am happy to do but looking around online I found some information on sleep regressions - (info below).
Have any mums out there experienced this, and if so how long did it last?
I dont mind getting up to bubs when ever he needs his mumma but i got used to getting sleep and not feeling like a total space cadet....
any feedback would be great :)





What is happening during these 'Wonder' weeks?
We know that development in physical skills happens in 'steps' - one day a baby can take a step and start to walk, whereas the day before he could not take that step. Similarly, it is thought that the way that a baby can think, feel, notice and understand what is happening around him (mental development) might also happen in steps.
For example, at around the age of 8 weeks, a baby can begin to recognise more of the people and things that she can see around her.
At about 6 months she can start to realise that some people are around most of the time (her parents for example), while some people are strangers. Before that time she did not know that some people were strangers.
Changes in thinking can show up in changes in what a baby can do, and how she behaves.
During these times when a baby's ability to understand the world around him is changing, he may need more attention.
He may cry more, be more fussy and need more comforting. This may be due to other reasons, such as being unwell.
Some of the babies lose their appetites.
Some babies who have been sleeping well may take more time to go off to sleep and wake more often.
Some young children who have been happily exploring their world may become more clingy, and become upset much more easily.
They may show an increased need for body contact with their mothers.
Sometimes these weeks are called 'regression weeks', because a baby or young child will seem to have gone backwards in her development. In fact, she is making a big step forward, but this step is confusing to her, and she will behave more like a younger baby.
The 'sunny' weeks
When the baby has fully 'climbed' this developmental step, there may be several weeks when she is happier. She can happily try out her new skills. She may be less easily upset (less temperamental). She may allow you to be out of sight more often, and go off to sleep more easily.
Temperament
Some babies are generally easier to get on with than other babies. They tend to be happier, cry less and go to sleep more easily.
Other babies are easily upset and cry a great deal more often.
Even 'easy' babies have these fussy 'wonder' weeks. It may be easier to help them calm down when they cry than it is to calm a 'difficult' baby, but there will be times when they are more distressed than usual.
Other things that can cause a baby to be fussy
Babies can be fussy for many other reasons.
A baby who is unwell or in pain is likely to be more distressed than usual. A nappy rash, for example, is very painful, and will cause a baby to cry more and have more difficulty going to sleep and have restless sleep.
It is often thought that babies are unsettled when they are teething. Research has shown that babies are not more distressed when they re teething, but not everyone is convinced. Maybe the teething has coincided with a fussy developmental stage.
An older baby who is separated from his parent may be very distressed when she returns. This is likely to be due to separation anxiety, not 'just a phase'.
Some babies have developmental delays or major health problems, which could alter the times that they go through these mental developmental milestones.
How to help your baby during these 'wonder' weeks
During these fussy weeks, babies seem to manage the developmental changes more easily if they get extra attention, get held more often and have extra comforting when they go to sleep.
Parents need to know that there will be these more difficult times, but that there will also be times when their baby will be happier and more easy to get along with.
If parents are not able to give their baby as much attention as he needs, the baby may find this mental developmental step more difficult to manage.

Predicting the 'wonder' weeks
Since most babies follow a similar pattern, it is possible to predict approximately when a child may have a fussy ('stormy') time. Some babies may become more distressed a week or so before or after the times listed here. Some babies may become quite distressed some times, but pass easily through the predicted 'stormy' time at other stages (they may also become very distressed for quite different reasons).
In the first year of life, the stormy times seem to happen around
5 weeks
8 weeks
12 weeks
17 weeks
26 weeks (6 months)
36 weeks
44 weeks
53 weeks (around 12 months).
Just as physical developmental stages do not stop when a child reaches 12 months of age, mental developmental stages will also continue, and there will continue to be 'good' weeks and more difficult weeks. Any parent of a teenager will be able to confirm that they still are having good and bad weeks.
Predicting 'sunny' weeks
The 'sunny' weeks can also be more or less predictable. The 'sunniest' weeks tend to happen around
6 weeks
10 weeks
13 weeks (around 3 months)
21 weeks
31 weeks
39 weeks
49 weeks
58 weeks.
Reminder
Even though 'wonder' weeks can seem like difficult times when babies are clingy and unhappy, they are very special weeks because the babies are making a new big step forward.
References
Richter, J. & Woolmore, A. (2004). Regressive Periods, Maternal Depression and the Development of Insecure Attachment. Paper presented to WAIMH World Congress, Melbourne, Australia. Jan .
Rijt-Plooij, H.H.C. van de & Plooij, F. X. (1992) Infantile Regressions: Disorganisation and onset of transition periods. Journal of Reproductive and Infant Psychology. 10, 129-149.
Sadurni, M. & Rostan. C. (2002) Regression Periods in Infancy: A Case Study from Catalonia. The Spanish Journal of Psychology. Vol 5, No. 1, 36-44.
Vanderrijt, H. & Plooij, F. (2003) The Wonder Weeks. Kiddy World Promotions. BV.
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Sheer Bliss
26-08-2007, 14:40
:wave: I haven't been able to read all through the info yet - but just wanted to let you knwo that you are not alone! DS was waking every 3hrs for a few nights & has now gone back to a 2am (or thereabouts) feed every night, where he was sleeping through before. He is also 4months old!

I got used to the sleep too - now i feel like a zombie during the day now too.

LMenz
26-08-2007, 20:10
That was really interesting info. Thanks for posting :thumbsup:

My DS is up and down. He slept thru recently for 2 weeks but is night waking again..he's not hungry (I tried - he bit me :eek: ) He just doesn't want to be asleep or on his own.

It's tough somtimes..I''m sure things will settle down again :)

~Emmylou~
26-08-2007, 20:40
Yep - putting my hand up here.

It's really, really common for everything to go to hell sleepwise at about 4 months, I've talked to so many mums who've had this experience.

My bub was actually a pretty good sleeper as far as newborns go, slept for longer and longer stretches until at 4 months he slept through the night...it lasted for about three weeks.

Then he started waking once a night again. Then a few weeks later it was twice. Then it went on until by 8 months he was waking up HOURLY and I was pretty much losing the plot I was so sleep deprived (having a toddler as well kind of ruined the "why don't you sleep when the baby sleeps??" - people who say that only have one baby :laughing: ).

As far as how long it lasts.... for us it's still going, he's almost 11 months old and while he's not waking up hourly any more he still wakes up 2-3 times a night and is up for the day at 5.30.

Basically now I don't waste my valuable energy stressing about getting him to "sleep through" anymore - I just do what I can to cope with the way he does sleep, and I've got a few strategies now that mean I can cope ok.

funnyfarm
26-08-2007, 21:10
Yep - happened in this household too.

DD2 started playing up around 4 months old and settled down again about 7.5 months old.

She had a bad cold at 4 months old and was waking up alot at night and when the cold went away the waking stayed. We were also on holidays at the time so i put it all down to being out of her comfort zone etc.

Anyway it dragged on and on and i was getting increasingly frazzled until around 7.5 months old she just snapped out of it and settled right down. Sleeps great now. Has 1 night feed but other than that, i don't have to get up to her at all. Also her day sleeps are much better now.

allysophia
26-08-2007, 22:20
No 4month old really actually sleeps through.. :)

Good luck!

pickles
26-08-2007, 22:47
My second child went through really unsettled times at 4 months and again at 15 months. The first time was related to his reliance on his dummy and his inability to relocate it to put it back in his mouth. He was waking up every 1.5 hours overnight. I made thetough decision to remove it one morning. the day sleeps were tough as i had to calm him by gentle patting. By that night it was like he forgot about it and only woke once for a feed.
again at 15 months he would cry every couple of hours. all i had to do was open the door he would see me and go back to sleep - it was like he was just making sure that we were still there.
Both times we just went really gentle , but within a couple of week things were great again.


Good luck

Pickles
DD 02/03
Ds 03/05

ZooKeeper
27-08-2007, 08:23
that was comforting reading for me this morning... starfish after a couple of weeks of waking for only 2 feeds has been waking from just after midnight until 6am almost every hour for a feed. i am completely wretched with lack of sleep as she doesn't day sleep for long enough for me to nap given that's all the time there is to get other things done like make myself food and eat it, make urgent phone calls,... y'all know the drill I am sure :hair:

she will be 13 weeks (3 months) at the end of this week so guess I just have to grin and bear it till the sunny weeks roll round.:cool:

ha, I'm so tired all last week I was thinking it was the end of the month, didn't find out till saturday that I had lost track of the calender :laughing:

~Emmylou~
27-08-2007, 10:29
No 4month old really actually sleeps through.. :)

Good luck!


Some do - my first baby was sleeping through every single night, 12 hours solid well and truly by 4 months old. She still does it now, we've never been woken by her unless she's sick since she was a tiny baby. We were incredibly lucky with her which is why DS was such a shock :laughing:

I know that's not the norm, by any stretch - but there are some babies that do it ;)

justtwogirls22
27-08-2007, 10:43
i too have the same problem - happened with both my girls - well started happening with my youngest only last week - its not like she has a big feed when she wakes every 3 hours just a few mouthfuls & that's it - am going to try her on a bit of farex at night to see if that keeps her belly full

twitch
28-08-2007, 11:38
I thought this was just happening to us! DD is 16 weeks and has been doing this. She used to wake at 4.30am then 7.30am, now it's 2.30am, 4.30am then 7.30am, so there's an extra feed/wake time in there.

Bron
28-08-2007, 11:59
Hooray for this thread!! DS used to wake twice every night - about 1am and about 4am. Now he wakes around 9.30, 11, 1.30, 3, 4.30..... it's driving me bonkers. So glad to hear I am not alone. I'll be thinking of you all at 3am and knowing that you're awake with me will make me feel so much better!

littlebro07
28-08-2007, 13:41
Hi all, yep my DS went thru the same thing at 4 months, but it only lasted for about 2 weeks, then he went back to sleeping from 6 - 4 ish in the morning, which he had been doing since around 11 weeks old....BUT as you can see by a thread I just listed, he is now 5 1/2 mths and is the worse at night than he has ever been..my DD is nearly 8 so I have forgotten all these nights when you may aswell not even go to bed cos you know you will be getting up before you know it!! Good luck and just try different things, during the day my DS was a shocking sleeper from 3 mths, would only catnap, but I now wrap him and put the radio on static (white noise) and he has 2 to 3 sleeps a day ranging from 1 hr to 2.5 hours....now just gotta work on the night time...:hair:

Alana13
28-08-2007, 14:01
Hopefully I am at the end of the what i call "mental week". :devil6: ...Levi only woke once last night at 2.30! BUT he was soooo upset going down for his night sleep, which he has not done in ages!!!!

Bring on the Sunny weeks!!!:D

I will be thinking of you all on my night feeds!!

Bron
29-08-2007, 11:09
Well we decided to try wrapping DS again last night. He never liked his arms being wrapped and has been in a grobag since he was 6 weeks, but we noticed that he often wakes up thrashing his arms around, so we gave wrapping a go.

He fell asleep immediately at about 7.15 without so much as a grizzle, woke at 12.30 and at 3.30. Fed both times and went straight back to sleep and woke up very happy this morning. :smiliedance:

I feel SO much better today. If you've stopped wrapping, maybe give it a try.

We think we might keep wrapping him until he starts high school.:laughing:

Hollywood
29-08-2007, 21:05
Hooray for this thread!! DS used to wake twice every night - about 1am and about 4am. Now he wakes around 9.30, 11, 1.30, 3, 4.30..... it's driving me bonkers. So glad to hear I am not alone. I'll be thinking of you all at 3am and knowing that you're awake with me will make me feel so much better!

oh wow, this is us too! Glad to hear I'm not alone :o

PandP
01-09-2007, 12:16
me too, me too! DS is 16 weeks today and he has been all over the place sleep wise lately. Last night i tried wrapping again but didn't seem to make a difference, i have even been giving him extra ebm at night time to fill him up but that hasn't worked either. It was nice to find this thread and see that we are not the only ones!! Hope sleep arrives soon!!

Alana13
01-09-2007, 12:27
o0o0o0o0 I was up 5 times last night........he never woke this much as a newborn......I need to try something new......but i have no idea what....

miss ani
03-09-2007, 14:28
thanks for pointing me in this direction,
it looks like a lot of us are in the same boat at the moment!!

a lot of our issues surround keeping lily asleep for the first 2 hours or so when we put her down for the night. she goes down okay, but then wakes as she ends her sleep cycle (40 min or so). my mum keeps telling me things will improve.... :fingerscrossed:

Mum2Callumand3crazycats
24-09-2007, 15:55
Hi All,

My baby is 17 weeks and had been a fabulous all night sleeper from about 4 weeks until around 13 weeks, slept 10-12 hours a night...sorry. However since around 13 weeks the night wakings have been getting progressively worse, started out waking once per night but last night woke at 1am, 3am, 4am and we were up from 5am as he was quite distressed. Think it's this damned sleep regression...as most of these posts were a month ago nearly, can anyone tell me if their babies have resumed all night sleeping again ie: how long does this last for !!! Thankyou

Bron
24-09-2007, 16:11
Hamish is now 5 months and seems to be down to one feed a night (sometimes two, but never more than that). He settles really easily and only wakes if he is hungry. I put it down to wrapping, and getting his reflux under control (sadly we had to resort to medication). He hasn't slept through yet, but I'm hoping that will come.

He still only does 45 minute power naps for his day sleeps, but at least he does 4 or 5 of them a day. That is our next big hurdle.

Myztik
24-09-2007, 16:18
Yep me too.. DS2 was sleeping through by about 3weeks old. Then he hit about 4mnths and started waking countless amounts of times a night.. He is almost 15mnths old now and is finally starting to sleep better, not all night but a lot better.

Mmm Dessert
10-09-2008, 07:17
I know this is a very old thread, but I was wondering if anyone was going through something similar now. Or if it's been and gone, how did you make it through with your sanity intact?

My beautiful DD has started waking all night every night and has gone from no night feeds to at least two, which is more than what she did even as a newborn. She also wakes every hour or so for a little cry which settles with the dummy.

I'm a walking zombie at the moment and finding it hard to function with an active 2yr old also running around during the day and, to be honest, I often get very scared that I'll get cranky and lose it at one of them. :gloomy:

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Mmm Dessert
10-09-2008, 09:21
Anyone???

jacquie8653
10-09-2008, 10:07
My little boy is 15 weeks old and up until the last 2 or 3 night was catnapping all day, last bottle at around 5.30pm and in bed at 6.30, sleeping through until about 3am for a feed and then back to bed until 7am. Now that I have him sleeping a little better during the day he's been going to bed at 7pm but being really fidgety in his sleep and waking 2-3 times a night for a bottle. He's really dependant on his dummy for sleep and I've tried going in to put his dummy back in when he's fidgety but it doesn't seem to settle him back into a proper sleep. He's also been funny with his bottles during the day, wiggles around, turns his head and 99% of the time won't drink the full 200mls like he used to. Thinking about giving him a few spoonfulls of farex after his bottle at night before going to bed. The night bottles he drinks right to the end though which is strange.

Could this be this sleep regression thing?

Mummy to three spunks
19-05-2011, 22:06
No 4month old really actually sleeps through.. :)

Good luck!



I'm sorry I have to disagree. They can. My first sone slept through all night from 7pm till 7am from when he was 2 months old and that was without a dream feed in the middle. I can't say the same for my other two, but it can happen to some luck parents :)