I don't understand at all.

[serendipity22]

Babies are young for such a short time. They will spend most of their lives after they have left home and are no longer the responsibility of the parents.

Circumcision (or penile reduction surgery) is life long.

Ive nothing against an informed adult choosing circumcision for themself.

I really don't think parents have a right to elective cosmetic non medically indicated surgery of any type on their children.

Children come through us, but we do not own them. They are not toy dolls to be modified. Our job is to give them a good start.

Is leaving them be too much to ask?

Another way of looking at this is would a 60 year old parent have to right to forcibly have her 40 year old son have penile reduction surgery?

Is there anything at all your parents forced on you that you didn't like? Now imagine you had to live with it for life.

Why do some people think its a parent's decision?

[hayleysmummy]

I have no idea I dont understand it either but what can we do :(

[PunkyDiva]

I think maybe cause it's just been such an accepted practise for so long.

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[Blueberry Crumble]

I agree. Just because parents can legally make the decision, it does not make it morally right.

If parents believe circ to be such an important thing for later in life etc, why not wait till the child is old enough, explain your concerns to them and why you would like them to decide to circ, and leave the decision making process up to them?

It is not a parents right to choose this for their child. Just because they came from our bodies, doesnt mean we own theirs.

[moonblossom]

I will NEVER understand, and I will NEVER get it...and in the wise words of Forrest Gump, AND THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT...

[AquaDevil78]

I will NEVER understand, and I will NEVER get it...and in the wise words of Forrest Gump, AND THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT...


Yep, me too (agree 100%):yes:

[neostudded]

I agree :yelclap: :smiliedance:

[Blueberry Crumble]

even though I dont agree with it at all, the other thread I opened up about resons for doing it has helped me understand HOW and WHY some people would decide to do it, even if, to me, it is still not the best decision.

For example, one member there (cant remember who!) said that she had a boyfriend who got really infected and saw him go through a lot, having to get circed at a later age. Having SEEN someone go through that, I can understand why someone would choose to circ their son based on their own life experiences IYKWIM.

I guess it is easy for me to stand outside of that circle and say "Well, just because that happened to your partner, does not mean it will happen to your son" which is very likely the case, but I didnt have that life experience of seeing that person with the infection.

So I guess what I am trying to say, is that if a person actually SEES somebody who has suffered from penile problems, then i can understand why they would consider circing their own sons.

[Pippi Longstocking]

I doubt I will ever understand it. :no:
As a parent, every instinct I have screams at me to protect my children from harm. I cannot imagine ignoring those instincts and allowing someone to hurt my child in that way. I really truly do not understand.

[xkwzit]

I think that if you look at it from a risk assessment perspective, it might help you to understand.

To some ppl, the perceived benefits of circing outweigh the perceived risks/disadvantages. For other ppl, the opposite is true.

So some choose RIC and some will never choose RIC. All I hope for in the end of the day is that ppl really look at the issues and make their own, informed decision.

Cheers

[punkbaby]

I dont think i will understand it either but its something that every parent chooses its their choice not the childs which stinks :(

[~Emmylou~]

I totally 100% agree with you.

I cannot see how parental rights override the right of a child to keep the body they were born with.

I honestly do not get it either.

[Blueberry Crumble]

When I was growing up, the circ'd one was definitely the more common one. I always thought I would get my son done, as its "nicer".

Now I think of myself as being a bit of an idiot, but besides that (we all live and learn) I just can't imagine sitting there holding my child while somebody cuts off part of his penis. That just wouldn't happen. I didn't even like it when they did the hearing test let alone the heel pr!ck test.

So that means that somebody else would have to go in with him. Which in essence means that I would be abandoning him while someone cuts off part of his penis.

Just can't imagine that ever happening, that's all.

Thats how I feel. I googled circumcision once and up came all these horrid images of babies screaming in agony. The thought never crossed my mond at all to do that to my boy:no:

[Milliner]

How people can think it's ok to permanently change someone else’s body is beyond me. I don't understand the my child, my choice argument. What about Childs body, childs choice. I can not think of one valid reason as to why the procedure should be performed, apart from absolute medical necessity.

[Blueberry Crumble]

How people can think it's ok to permanently change someone else’s body is beyond me. I don't understand the my child, my choice argument. What about Childs body, childs choice. I can not think of one valid reason as to why the procedure should be performed, apart from absolute medical necessity.

agreed:no:

[pookiesossige]

I don't understand the my child, my choice argument. What about Childs body, childs choice. I can not think of one valid reason as to why the procedure should be performed, apart from absolute medical necessity.

I'll second that :thumbsup: Well said :yes:

[Ange&Seth]

Look guys, bottom line is this - sitting on a parenting forum spouting about how it's wrong and inhumane an whatever else will not change legislation.

Parents make the decision for their boys because they believe it to be the best thing for them. Not because they want to inflict unnecssary harm on their babies.

If you want to make a real difference, contact your local member for parliament. MAKE IT ILLEGAL if you feel so strongly about it, but don't sit here making parents feel bad for their choices. That's called badgering where I'm from.

[Ange&Seth]

Thats how I feel. I googled circumcision once and up came all these horrid images of babies screaming in agony. The thought never crossed my mond at all to do that to my boy:no:

When I do good, no one remembers; when I do bad no one forgets - does this quote make sense now??

[Pippi Longstocking]

Look guys, bottom line is this - sitting on a parenting forum spouting about how it's wrong and inhumane an whatever else will not change legislation.

Parents make the decision for their boys because they believe it to be the best thing for them. Not because they want to inflict unnecssary harm on their babies.

If you want to make a real difference, contact your local member for parliament. MAKE IT ILLEGAL if you feel so strongly about it, but don't sit here making parents feel bad for their choices. That's called badgering where I'm from.

I actually disagree. :) Presenting parents on a parenting forum information seems to me to be a really good way of changing social values and therefore legislation. Legislation generally doesn't get changed until after society's perceptions have.
So I am here to help bring about that shift. Obviously letters to politicians may also be of benefit too but I believe that being here talking to the decision makers themselves will be more beneficial on a grass roots level. :)

[prideNJoy]

Babies are young for such a short time. They will spend most of their lives after they have left home and are no longer the responsibility of the parents.

Circumcision (or penile reduction surgery) is life long.

Ive nothing against an informed adult choosing circumcision for themself.

I really don't think parents have a right to elective cosmetic non medically indicated surgery of any type on their children.

Children come through us, but we do not own them. They are not toy dolls to be modified. Our job is to give them a good start.

Is leaving them be too much to ask?

Another way of looking at this is would a 60 year old parent have to right to forcibly have her 40 year old son have penile reduction surgery?

Is there anything at all your parents forced on you that you didn't like? Now imagine you had to live with it for life.

Why do some people think its a parent's decision?

I'd just like to reply to this, and i think it also applies to thousands of other people too.
But my answer is YES, all im going to say is Vaccintaions = serious side effects/long term side effects! And please no one tell me there is a huge difference between the two because as i see it, there isn't!