Have you been told you have CPD?

[Mamaduke]

It's quite amazing the amount of women saying that they've been told they have CPD and therefore needed to have c/sections.
Considering it is such a rare occurence (true CPD) I'm just wondering how many of us out there have been told this?

[PunkyDiva]

I wasn't, but my Aunt was and I never really beleived it cause her bubs were miniscule and she never suffered any problems with pelvis or hips otherwise.

[Mamaduke]

You're quick PunkyDiva!
I've now posted a poll.

[our little treasures]

Whats CPD??:confused:

[Mamaduke]

Whats CPD??:confused:
Cephalopelvic Disproportion - it's when the baby's head is too big to fit through the Mother's pelvis.

[PunkyDiva]

Do you want me to poll yes for my aunt ?? Her kids are now late teens so has obviously been an excuse going back a while's now.

[Mamaduke]

Do you want me to poll yes for my aunt ?? Her kids are now late teens so has obviously been an excuse going back a while's now.
For sure - it's someone's who's been told they have it.

[our little treasures]

Well I haven't got that obviously as I had no idea what it was, lol. I really do want to see the outcome of this. I have known many that the obs say bubs wont fit but bubs has actually been very small.

[PunkyDiva]

I'm no expert but unless you're bubs has the genetic thingy where their heads are ginormous i think it might be an untruth and has a lot more to do with incorrect positioning of head on cervix. Which can lead to bruising of cervix and bubs head leading to swelling which technically would stop progression but certainly not a reason for repeat ceasar next pregnancy. A pelvis can be realligned by manipulation so that's not an excuse either IMO.
Sorry didn't mean to hijack but just another fear put onto womans heads unnecessarily makes me sooo cross.:o

[cmd'smum]

My mum was told this, after she had an emergency c/section with me :rolleyes:

[mimcal]

I voted yes for my mother - she was told she had CPD and had 3 c-sects as a result.

[tally]

I was the opposite, I was told that I may have it but would be given a trial of labour and a ceasarian would only be done if necessary.

They said its not a legit reason for a ceasar as many women can still deliver naturally as is not dangerous if watched closely.

I've gone onto deliver an 8lb baby naturally, hc 34cm so not overly big.. I do have issues with my hips and pelvis but not sure if thats contributed to this or just being small and carrying a big baby.

[Shanaynay]

It was mentioned as one of many reasons for my c/s.

I think CPD is a myth.

Unless the woman or the baby suffer from medical conditions that result in an unusually small pevlis/large head - then it's a load of ****.

[Freya]

I was told that but persisted for a vb and got it :yes:

[bekkyboo]

No, not here. G was a 9lb'r but i had a heart condition that i was orginally told it was too dangerous to push through with a Vb with... load of cr@p - saw a heart specialist after the birth and he said its a myth and he over see's many women who have Vb with the condition. My hospital was just too scared to do it.

[LotusMum]

I know three women who were private patients of a hospital so therefore had Obs. Everyone of them was given a c-sec for that reason. Strange huh?
All the women I know who were public patients had vbs or had c-sec as an emergency for other reasons.

[MamaSage]

Yep. Then I had a bigger baby out of my vagina. :yes:

CPD should stand for 'Care Provider Dysfunction'. It generally have absolutely nothing to do with us women.

[pookiesossige]

I know three women who were private patients of a hospital so therefore had Obs. Everyone of them was given a c-sec for that reason. Strange huh?
All the women I know who were public patients had vbs or had c-sec as an emergency for other reasons.


Same story, here (not me) but with two of my friends, not three.
I'm with Phin- myth, scare tactic, and usually another way for birth to be medically controlled with power and choice removed from the mother. I'm really cynical about this sort of thing latley, actually. I've been recently told by someone close to me that "if a c-section is even just suggested becuase the baby is over 8 lb (which is SO not a big baby) then I'll opt for one, of course, because they wouldn't suggest it if it wasn't 100% necessary and I'd be hurting my baby and harming myself if I give birth using my vagina"
PLEASE. :rolleyes:

[Shanaynay]

CPD should stand for 'Care Provider Dysfunction'. It generally have absolutely nothing to do with us women.
:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Love it :thumbsup:

[Chickadee]

It wasn't the reason for my c/s but may have been a contributing factor.

DD was frank breech (bum down, legs straight and feet beside her ears). An ultrasound at 37 weeks put her head diameter off the scale and the technician (a 40s to 50s ish man) told me he'd be recommending a c/s due to the large head, even if DD did manage to get turned out of breech.

At birth her head was, damn, I forget. But it was in the 99.9 percentile.

Edit: found her details in an earlier post:

DD was born at around 38.5 weeks, caesar, at 3.61 kg or 7 lb 15.5 oz. Only 51 cm long but a whopping 37.7 cm head circumference.
Thing is... I suspect her head diameter measured so large in part because of her position in my womb. Her head was flat up against my diaphram and squashed to a squarish shape. If she had been head down in my pelvis her head would have been reshaped to be more conical and the measured diameter would have been smaller. Does that make sense? I'll never know really.

[~Emmylou~]

No I wasn't - but I suspect only because I'd already had a vaginal birth so that excuse wouldn't wash...he had to think up something else for my case :rolleyes:

Cynical aren't I :o .


ETA I just looked at the poll results and I'm astounded at how many women have been told this. True CPD occurs in about 2% of women - yet nearly 50% of women who've had ceasars have been told they have it?

The state of birth in this country is so depressing sometimes :(

[Mamaduke]

ETA I just looked at the poll results and I'm astounded at how many women have been told this. True CPD occurs in about 2% of women - yet nearly 50% of women who've had ceasars have been told they have it?

That's why I started it. I knew about true CPD and it only affecting 2% of women...
I knew I'd heard it tossed around as a reason for a ceasar A LOT more!

[Milliner]

I was induced due to reduced pelvimetry, that’s what they called it. Is that CPD??

[reAllytee]

Nope not even after Boof's birth when he got stuck with a 38cm h/c !

Guess ive been lucky cause im rather shocked at how many have been told they do !!!!

Ok & ive just realised i replied to a c/s thread ... Dont mind me all sleep deprived & stupid !!

I didnt vote luckily ....


*Crawls back into corner*

[LizzyT]

I was told at 35 weeks that as my baby's head was not engaged this probably meant that his head was too big for my pelvis and I would most likely need a CS at 39 weeks.

I did some reading and decided that I wouldn't be having a scheduled CS - low and behold he was born naturally.

[~Emmylou~]

I was told at 35 weeks that as my baby's head was not engaged this probably meant that his head was too big for my pelvis and I would most likely need a CS at 39 weeks.



:eek: :eek: OMG you're kidding me! You were seriously told that!? That's just disgraceful. You're so fortunate that you had the good sense to recognise what a crock that was!

[sandralee]

Yep. Then I had a bigger baby out of my vagina. :yes:

CPD should stand for 'Care Provider Dysfunction'. It generally have absolutely nothing to do with us women.

LOL!!!!!!:yelclap:

[pegasus]

I'd like to know how they really define true CPD.

I was told it was my reason, but the size of my bubs head never came into it.

With my first, I went for my routine midwife check at 39weeks, she realised that bub was moving back up (and had been for a couple of weeks, also went oblique), sent me to my OB, he sent me for a CT of my pelvis and from there, he diagnosed me as CPD. I have the report of the CT, but can't be bothered getting it out of my filing cabinet right now (will do later and print what was written). Apparently it was all about the size of my inlet - nothing to do with my "outlet". This is where my interest comes into it. If they define true CPD as pelvis too small to birth a baby - how do they define the size of the pelvis? Is it any different the inlet, rather than the outlet or whatever?

I know that many people have posted on BH before about how there can be no true thing as CPD as your ligaments loosen allowing the pelvis to expand during child birth, but the thing that scares me is that I will never know if had I gone ahead and attempted a VB (with either baby), what the consequences could have been. My first OB advised that my choices were to - attempt labour, perhaps go through 10hours, and then start requiring intervention, which would place me and my baby under stress, or have a c/section. The OB and hospital was not one known as intervening purely for the convenience of the doctor and I had to go with his advice - he'd birthed literally thousands of babies, I hadn't birthed any.

For my second birth, I took my CT's and reports from my first child to the new OB (new state, so different OB and different Dr) and he said that my dr had made a good call, and he probably would have made the same call. I was in tears as I asked him about my chances of VBAC - hated the idea of a planned c/section from the beginning (the other one took place the next day, so no time to prepare - ended up only 5days from due date). He said you hear some stories of attempted VBACs that are great, but then there are many who end up in a lot of trouble.

Again - I went with the devil I knew.

At this stage we aren't discussing number 3 (or if so) for another 2years, but if we do decide to, I will be researching for which Dr has the highest stats on VBACs in my city, and will see what the chances are of VBAC2. I'm still hazy on the idea of number one - who knows? I know that I did all the right things - lots of squatting, yoga, exercise, scrubbing grout to ready my body, and yet, when it came down to it, the fact that my sister had nearly died when she had her daughter and has a very similar body type to me, makes me think that could be why I went with it - also because DH just heard the dr say it was the lowest risk for me and the baby. Hadn't even heard of BH at this stage, by baby two had just found BH and was starting to think more about getting the birth that I wanted, when it came down to it - I didn't know enough about CPD so wasn't confident enough to rebut it.

Maybe I am one of the 2%, I don't know, but even though I've had to move on from my births and not have regrets for the sake of my children and myself, doesn't mean I won't be considering VBAC2 if number 3 comes along.

[pegasus]

OH - forgot to add - DD had started behaving the same as DS did - she had descended then started turning - ended up oblique when she was delivered.

[mythreelittlemonkeys]

Iwasnt actually told CPD as such but was told the fact I had SPD from 24 weeks, that my DD was 2 weeks overdue and a whopper, didnt engage till last moment and posterior and that I failed to progress infact cervix and baby started to go backwards that my body may have been protesting at passing her through my pelvis. That any future pregnancies would be a trial of labour if i opted for VBAC or I could have a repeat c-section.

[tooshypanda]

My mum was told she had this after labouring for 28 hours with me - They gave her a pelvic scan and her pelvis was super narrow and her coccyx was backwards (pointing inwards)

She had an emergency CS and I was born 3.5kg 55cm long and with a 37.5cm head.

As she is only 4'11 and was 60kg preggers so I think her CPD might have been an actual diagnosis..

She had 2 more CS after that with my brother and sister.

Is CPD genetic? I am only 5'2 but alot heavier than her :)

[moonblossom]

My sister had two c-sections because of this, but she is tiny, and her bubs were all over 10lbs...She had an xray during labor because she wasn't progressing, and yup, stuck baby. But i know this is rare. (umm yeah xray, were going back 23 years here)

[BabyLs]

My mum was also told this after an emerg, c section with me.