Dont know what to do anymore

[HugsAndKisses]

I just feel at a loss lately....I feel like I have no idea what to do cause ive tried all the diciplines in the book.....My son is two and has recently been backchatting and dissobediant....the main one that has me so concerned is this

It was shower time for him tonight and DH and I always take it in turns....so i started the shower and then DH came and washed DS....that was ok...then when it was time to dress DS he was saying "mummy do it" "mummy do it".....he does this often even with the roles reversed....say if i try to do something for him he will protest and want "daddy to do it" so anyway DH started dressing him and he started going histerical....like full on screaming and kicking and making himself soooooooooo worked up....but we stood our ground and i told him myself that I was not going to do it that his dad will dress him....anyway he finally after 10mins tantrum let DH dress him....everything was fine he had his bottle with us downstairs we cuddled him i talked to him about it and we were keeping him nice and calm.....then DH brushed his teeth which he also protested so i said let daddy do that and mummy will tuck you in......so we both said goodnight to him and I tucked him in with his nightlight on.....then headed downstairs.....he got up pretty much immediately which is another thing he does often and I came up the stairs very cross and said back in your bed it is time to sleep and i tucked him in again.....anyway again he gets up so this time i sent DH up and to cut a long story short he did the same tantrum throwing again...screaming histerically and being very naughty....Dh tried the calm approach that didnt work....so he tried being firm and angry and eventually DS worked himself up that much he was nearly vommiting (i know we sound like terrible parents but i need him to learn to respect our decisons)
so anyway DH ended up giving up in the end after half and hour of full on screaming from DS.....so DS came down again and i just told him get back up stairs...by this poin i was fuming mad myself and didnt cuddle him or nothing and he got into his bed and then i said "right tuck urself in im very angry with you youre very naughty little boy so he did and that was it he went to sleep....

I seriously feel like i cant control my sons behaviour.....he throws many screaming tantrums through the day also:crying: :(
i think im getting to my wits end.....:gloomy:
thanks for listening.

[Mum&bubs]

Shannon, I can't give you advice but I can totally relate. Summer is JUST like that, her tantrums get so bad sometimes I just don't know what to do and I get so angry and frustrated I feel like I'm going to lose it.

Terrible two's huh, they really are terrible :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

[Ange&Seth]

Sorry Chic, I don't have any advice either - Seth's not at that stage yet - he's only 21 months. I just wanted to give you these :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: and I don't think you're a terrible parent for being firm with him. You're right, I think they need to learn boundaries.

[tru]

Hugs for you guys. We're not up to that stage yet but I can imagine how frustrating it must be. Sounds like you are coping really well considering all the screaming and tantrums. And it sounds like you are really caring parents that you both try to give him what he wants by you both sharing the showering/dressing.

Have you tried staying in his room until he falls asleep? I saw something like that on the Super Nanny.

Sorry I don't really have any advice. All I can say is I'm sure this will pass and things will improve.

[HugsAndKisses]

thanks girls....I just felt that because in the end he got what he wanted i failed you know...like he will know now that if he does those tantrums ill just give in and thats so not what i want.....thats why i didnt hug him or be nice to him...but then i also feel bad about it cause he went to sleep thinking of me angry with him.....it sucks being a parent:thumbsdown: :(

[Rell]

:hugs: 2 year old can be very draining I know :yes:
It sounds like you are doing a great job, you have stuck to your guns and not given in.
My DS always tries the "no i want mummy to do it"thing ,i think perseverance is the key.
One thing that worked with our DD when she was 2 and would get out of bed was to take away her special toy or light. At first she would get a warning then she would loose it, but we would tell her she would get it bach when she was quiet 9and in bed) for 5 min. It worked well and we nevr had to take it for longer then 5 min.

Wish i had some great advice that would stop the tanties but just keep being consistant and he will eventually relise the consequences and give in


Good luck

[HugsAndKisses]

Hugs for you guys. We're not up to that stage yet but I can imagine how frustrating it must be. Sounds like you are coping really well considering all the screaming and tantrums. And it sounds like you are really caring parents that you both try to give him what he wants by you both sharing the showering/dressing.

Have you tried staying in his room until he falls asleep? I saw something like that on the Super Nanny.

Sorry I don't really have any advice. All I can say is I'm sure this will pass and things will improve.

yes and the worst part about the screaming is he is very loud like he screams so high pitched you would think we were bashing him....and we live in townhouses so our neighbours would definately be able to hear him....Its so embarressing and scary to think what they might be thinking...even though we arent hurting him they may think we are and dob us in or something....its all so stressfull at the moment...but thanks for all the hugs.

[HugsAndKisses]

Shannon, I can't give you advice but I can totally relate. Summer is JUST like that, her tantrums get so bad sometimes I just don't know what to do and I get so angry and frustrated I feel like I'm going to lose it.

Terrible two's huh, they really are terrible :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

exactly....i think i have lost it tonight i just got to the point where i didnt have a clue what i should do...i was standing downstairs hearing him scream and cry for me and i knew i shouldnt go to him but i felt like i was being A Horrible mum making him cry like that....i dunno its so confusing all this stuff....

[Ange&Seth]

I try not to withhold love when Seth's in trouble, but I let him know that I'm angry with him. Maybe you could say 'I love you kiddo, but I'm very angry with you right now' - might make him see that his behaviour is 'un-asseptable'(Super Nanny voice LOL) while still being sure that you love him ?? Do you explain to him why his behaviour is naughty? Maybe you could try the guilt thing, instead of getting angry, get upset and tell him that his behaviour is upsetting mummy ?

[HugsAndKisses]

I try not to withhold love when Seth's in trouble, but I let him know that I'm angry with him. Maybe you could say 'I love you kiddo, but I'm very angry with you right now' - might make him see that his behaviour is 'un-asseptable'(Super Nanny voice LOL) while still being sure that you love him ?? Do you explain to him why his behaviour is naughty? Maybe you could try the guilt thing, instead of getting angry, get upset and tell him that his behaviour is upsetting mummy ?

yes we do explain to him why we are abgry and everything...like after his getting dressed tantrum i told him he needs to stop being naughty and listen to his mum and dad because we love him and he should let his dad dress him because that helps mummy....i wasnt sure he understood but i did try....yes the guilt thing may work....i will give it a go....its just so hard to get him to listen i think once he hears me say i love hiim and hug him all is forgiven and its ok for him to carry on like he does....i dunno i just feel like im way out of my league.....his tantrums are very bad....

[greengables]

Eek - this happens to me too with my 21mth old. I keep telling myself "this is just them needing power"

I've been trying hard to give her as much 'power' as possible - as in choices - usually only 2 max 3 options.

Tonight I said "Summer you can choose 2 books. 2. Do you understand me?" which I had no idea if she did....she can't talk that much! Then I read them. She made a 'duck' noise - whining and wanted 1 more story about 5 Little Ducks (tantrum just around the corner). I said: "ok you use your manners and you can have 1 more" she said "1more" and held up her finger. So I read it.

After that she whinged a bit but seemed not as 'tantrummy' - I just turned the lights down and said 'No - I said one more. Lie down. I will tell you the 'Goodnight Moon' one (I tell her this every nite.' So she settled down and is (hopefully) now sleeping!

It is SO freaking hard. Esp as I dont really know exactly how much she understands. However, I think she understands more than what I think.

When desperate I sit by her bed and pat her until she is virtually asleep.

RE: Throwing up she used to do this, but I've found that not letting her cry that long stops this (ie going in after every 2 mins, 3mins, 4mins etc).

[OJandMe]

OMG have you stolen my son!!!

Oliver is EXACTLY like this at the moment!!! I am SSSOOOOO over it. And like you, I find myself getting cranky and yelling, and then feeling terrible about it. But I just have no idea what to do... it's so draining isn't it!!

We love them... but we sure don't have to like being with them all the time. I'm really having issues with Oliver at the moment... so I can definitely relate. :hugs:

No advice... just lots of :hugs: and a big I UNDERSTAND!!!

[greengables]

yes we do explain to him why we are abgry and everything...like after his getting dressed tantrum i told him he needs to stop being naughty and listen to his mum and dad because we love him and he should let his dad dress him because that helps mummy....i wasnt sure he understood but i did try....yes the guilt thing may work....i will give it a go....its just so hard to get him to listen i think once he hears me say i love hiim and hug him all is forgiven and its ok for him to carry on like he does....i dunno i just feel like im way out of my league.....his tantrums are very bad....

We often just man-handle and ignore her screaming, get her dressed (nappy changed-she ALWAYS cries) ASAP, then work distract her to stop the screaming. This tends to work.

[Ange&Seth]

i dunno i just feel like im way out of my league

:hugs: Hun. I think he's just testing you guys really. As hard as it can be sometimes (I'm assuming here cos I don't know what it's like), by standing your ground with him, you'll eventually make him realise that you guys are the bosses, not him.

Kids huh? Sometimes I think rocket science would be easier :hugs: :hugs:

[greengables]

I also say things like: 'Stop that silly nonsense'
and
'That's naughty behaviour'

I sound really dorky but I find it stops me from losing it or saying things to her that I will regret (like my mum does)

[greengables]

It's so freaking hard and I don't think anyone understands unless they have toddlers.

It's so easy for people to judge - and they do damn them.

[HugsAndKisses]

Eek - this happens to me too with my 21mth old. I keep telling myself "this is just them needing power"

I've been trying hard to give her as much 'power' as possible - as in choices - usually only 2 max 3 options.

Tonight I said "Summer you can choose 2 books. 2. Do you understand me?" which I had no idea if she did....she can't talk that much! Then I read them. She made a 'duck' noise - whining and wanted 1 more story about 5 Little Ducks (tantrum just around the corner). I said: "ok you use your manners and you can have 1 more" she said "1more" and held up her finger. So I read it.

After that she whinged a bit but seemed not as 'tantrummy' - I just turned the lights down and said 'No - I said one more. Lie down. I will tell you the 'Goodnight Moon' one (I tell her this every nite.' So she settled down and is (hopefully) now sleeping!

It is SO freaking hard. Esp as I dont really know exactly how much she understands. However, I think she understands more than what I think.

When desperate I sit by her bed and pat her until she is virtually asleep.

RE: Throwing up she used to do this, but I've found that not letting her cry that long stops this (ie going in after every 2 mins, 3mins, 4mins etc).

yes this is another thing i have trouble with..my son can speak fairly well and im pretty sure he understands things i say but im not 100% sure if he understands ultamatums (sp)

like go lie on your bed or i will have to take doggy away (his toy)...he looks at me blankly as if to say what do u mean?
but then i dont know he probably does understand:confused:

[HugsAndKisses]

OMG have you stolen my son!!!

Oliver is EXACTLY like this at the moment!!! I am SSSOOOOO over it. And like you, I find myself getting cranky and yelling, and then feeling terrible about it. But I just have no idea what to do... it's so draining isn't it!!

We love them... but we sure don't have to like being with them all the time. I'm really having issues with Oliver at the moment... so I can definitely relate. :hugs:

No advice... just lots of :hugs: and a big I UNDERSTAND!!!

thanks it feels good that you understand...im sorry you are having troubles too.....:hugs:

[HugsAndKisses]

:hugs: Hun. I think he's just testing you guys really. As hard as it can be sometimes (I'm assuming here cos I don't know what it's like), by standing your ground with him, you'll eventually make him realise that you guys are the bosses, not him.

Kids huh? Sometimes I think rocket science would be easier :hugs: :hugs:

yeah i can see he is testing us...and were failing...but I am going to try to stay calmer next time....i do end up yelling and i guess it works him up but I just get to that point sometimes where im soooooo angry and just want him to stop screaming for no reason....my husband is a good dad to him and alot more easy going then me even so it makes me angry he wont let Dh do things for him.....sometimes he wont let me do things and only wants dad but the majority of the time he wants me to do it all.....

ill take rocket science anyday:rolleyes:

[Ange&Seth]

ill take rocket science anyday:rolleyes:

You got a deal! Race you to NASA :laughing:

[OJandMe]

Ollie's doing this thing at the moment when if one of us says "no" or won't give him something he wants.. he runs up to the other one and starts crying saying..

"Mummy (Or Daddy) naughty to me!!" And if I say no, and I'm home alone with the boys.. Ollie runs around the house screaming for Carlo and just WON'T stop. He bangs on all the doors and throws himself on the ground and yep.. u guessed it, works himself up till he's sick. Doesn't matter how many times I tell him that "Daddy's at school (uni) or work." I even take him into the office so he can see Carlo's not there, and he still carries on.

Last night he went to bed at 6:30pm... woke up at 8pm, and wouldn't go back to sleep till 4am!!!! And then Jordan sleeps ALL night, then wakes up at 6am ready to tackle the day head on....:sleeping:

I don't know what to do with him.

I'm going to read Boundaries For Kids... and the Five Love Languages of Children to try and help me understand what's going on and how to tackle it..

Coz it's definitely a power thing. :yes:

[HugsAndKisses]

You got a deal! Race you to NASA :laughing:

:laughing: thanks for the laugh...

Ps can we leave now :hair: :laughing:

[HugsAndKisses]

Ollie's doing this thing at the moment when if one of us says "no" or won't give him something he wants.. he runs up to the other one and starts crying saying..

"Mummy (Or Daddy) naughty to me!!" And if I say no, and I'm home alone with the boys.. Ollie runs around the house screaming for Carlo and just WON'T stop. He bangs on all the doors and throws himself on the ground and yep.. u guessed it, works himself up till he's sick. Doesn't matter how many times I tell him that "Daddy's at school (uni) or work." I even take him into the office so he can see Carlo's not there, and he still carries on.

Last night he went to bed at 6:30pm... woke up at 8pm, and wouldn't go back to sleep till 4am!!!! And then Jordan sleeps ALL night, then wakes up at 6am ready to tackle the day head on....:sleeping:

I don't know what to do with him.

I'm going to read Boundaries For Kids... and the Five Love Languages of Children to try and help me understand what's going on and how to tackle it..

Coz it's definitely a power thing. :yes:

yeah i definately hear ya....justin is very much trying to gain power in the house and im sad to say we do let him get away with things at times....but i have made up my mind to start using the naughty chair more often and more consistently and maybe trying new bedtime routine.....i dunno but i have to do something or hubbby and I are gonna be grey....

[mysonroger]

i reckon all you guys are doing a great job. DS went through just a small phase of tantrums (thank God) but i used to just completely ignore him. or so it seemed. i made out to him i was completely ignoring him, but actually i kept an eye on him, even had to spy on him, to make sure he was ok. sometimes, when he didn't know i was looking, he would start to calm down, then if he heard me close by or caught sight of me, he would start right up again....such a drama......:laughing: i relly should put him on the stage.

anyway, i wanted him to learn that tantrums get you NOWHERE FAST.!!! thankfully, he didn't keep it up long.
in these situations i always tell myself 'i'm the boss, not DS/DD' . i guess, don't ever forget that when you give into them sooner or later, they're learning to scream longer and harder for what they want....and the hardest part is having to be so persistant with it.

hard, i know!! especially when there are neighbours to consider!! but don't worry about the neighbours , just concentrate on what you're doing, because then you're more likely to give in for the neighbour's sake, and then you end up in a vicious circle.

good luck

[Tea Lady]

:hugs: Shannon.

You need to know that it's NOT you making him cry and scream - he's doing it to himself. You've made a perfectly reasonable decision, and he needs to come to terms with it. You're not a bad mum :hugs:

Have you thought about going to a PPP course? I know they're often run through health clinics in Brisbane - and they're meant to be great.

As far as suggestions go... maybe sit down and talk to your DH and work out a plan of "attack" so that you're both supporting each other next time it happens (although it sounds like you already do that really well). Kids can pick up if there's any uncertainty between their parents and can really make the most of it!

You already know you need to be firm and not give in, so I won't say that again, but I know I find it's best to try to think beforehand and make decisions that I know I can follow through - otherwise I say something and then think "why on earth did I say that" but I have to insist on it :rolleyes:

I find that my DD copes much better when I prepare her beforehand - eg "This will be the last story - go and pick the last story off the shelf and we'll read it" and then when she cries because she wants more "no, that was the last story, I told you it was going to be the last story".

As for ultimatums, my DD is 2 and a half, and talks really well, and I don't think she understands them yet. For little kids you really need something immediate, not a consequence that will drag on (eg not having their toy all night). That way you can deal with the situation and move on.

I'm also a big beleiver in clearing the air with them after a confrontation, so that they're not left in disgrace indefinately .

It sounds like you did well in a very hard situation - go and put your feet up... tomorrow's another day :)



***I'm not trying to sound like an expert here - I'm not perfect! ***

[PinkBinkie]

Hi Shannon
Well you're definetaly not alone, my 2yr old DD has turned into a monster! She's got an attitude like a teenager, she gives us the evil eye, she is rude to ppl when we're shopping (very embarrasing), she backchats, she is always yelling at her dad "No, Mummy do it!" or "No daddy, don't touch me" (which sounds terrible and really upsets my DH) and is just naughty from the time she wakes up. I really don't have any advice........just that I understand first hand what u r going through. I guess we'll all struggle through this together and wait for our little darlings to return to us......soon please :fingerscrossed:

:hugs: for you

[EmsMum72]

You poor thing! My DD has her fair share of tantrums, but usually she's pretty reasonable. I really feel for you, they can be so heartbreaking but make you so angry at the same time.

I haven't read all the replies, so sorry if this has already been said but ..... have you tried closing his bedroom door. We close DD's bedroom door after reading her books, tucking her in and giving her about 100 kisses/cuddles/love you's etc., and then we close her bedroom door (she can't reach the handles, and won't for quite a few years :yelclap: LOL) Sometimes she'll get out of bed, but usually she stays in her bed and goes straight to sleep if we go back in, tuck her in etc. again. Awhile ago I resorted to bribery :eek: usually we have something on every morning, and when I tuck her in at night I say 'now I want you to go straight to sleep tonight, no getting out of bed, or else we won't go and see your friends/go swimming/go to gymnastics/go to the park etc. tomorrow'. That really seems to work a treat.

Best of luck, I hope he grows out of this stage quickly (but I doubt it, for awhile anyway). :rolleyes:

[mysonroger]

shannon, is there anything at all happening in your life that could remotely influence this behaviour or bring it on.....like any small changes you've made lately, or has he been sick, etc...all those type of things to consider......just in case!!

[HugsAndKisses]

shannon, is there anything at all happening in your life that could remotely influence this behaviour or bring it on.....like any small changes you've made lately, or has he been sick, etc...all those type of things to consider......just in case!!

yes he has been sick recently but has recovered...and he has been in a big bed for two weeks now....I did think that could be it at first but he did strat this behaviour before we transitioned to the big bed....he would jump out of his cot demanding i tuck him back in and wouldn't let DH do it.....he really plays on that......:rolleyes:

we changed to a big bed hopeing it might solve things because he has a special wiggles blanket and lots of teddies to sleep with and he's in a bed like his mum and dad.....
I guess it could be part of the problem but then again im not sure...

[HugsAndKisses]

Oh and last night at 12am he woke up and came in our room trying to hop in bed with us....we told him No you need to go back to your bed (he has been doing this alot lately also)...so I took him back and told him there's no need to be scared....we leave our door open and his too and also have a night light for him......and I told him his mum and dad will not let anything scary happen to him so he knew....so he got back in and looked as though he may sleep but nope he got back up....needless to say DH tried yet another 40mins to get him to go back to bed....he is just relentless though....in the end Dh and I said to him we are going to sleep and you need to take yourself back to your bed....
(we had tried to do this for him and tuck him in but he wouldnt stop getting up and screaming)

so in the end he brought his pillow and blanket into our room and slept on the floor....

I know this sounds so cruel of us and i did feel terrible but he just wouldnt listen to reason all he wanted was to sleep in our bed and while thats ok sometimes i can understand....he has just been doing it heaps lately and i think its becoming a bad habbit as he generally comes in at the same times each night......and the only reason he went back to sleep is because he exausted himself.....
thankyou for letting me get this all out!

[Manxie]

I hear you I've got a two year old as well:hair:

Tea Lady had some excellent advice. I agree with preparing them for what is to come.

With DD I count a lot, sounds weird I know but it seems to work. For instance when we get home from shopping she likes to leap out of her car seat and sit in the front seats and fiddle with the glove box. I warn her when I count to ten its time to come out, I do a slow count until I get to "tickily ten" and then grab her give her a tickle and pull her out. She might make a small protest but its over within seconds because she knows the rules.

Also getting them involved. DD loves getting her towel for bath time. Getting the nappy, attempting to dress etc. If you son feels like he is in control a bit maybe he will be more co-operative. You can also turn dressing into a counting game, lets see how quickly we can put your pj's on, lets count, see if we can do it quicker than last night.

Its sounds like you are doing a great job and consistency is this key I'm sure things will settle down soon (until the next time, LOL!).

Just keep reminding yourself its just because he's smart:D

[HugsAndKisses]

I hear you I've got a two year old as well:hair:

Tea Lady had some excellent advice. I agree with preparing them for what is to come.

With DD I count a lot, sounds weird I know but it seems to work. For instance when we get home from shopping she likes to leap out of her car seat and sit in the front seats and fiddle with the glove box. I warn her when I count to ten its time to come out, I do a slow count until I get to "tickily ten" and then grab her give her a tickle and pull her out. She might make a small protest but its over within seconds because she knows the rules.

Also getting them involved. DD loves getting her towel for bath time. Getting the nappy, attempting to dress etc. If you son feels like he is in control a bit maybe he will be more co-operative. You can also turn dressing into a counting game, lets see how quickly we can put your pj's on, lets count, see if we can do it quicker than last night.

Its sounds like you are doing a great job and consistency is this key I'm sure things will settle down soon (until the next time, LOL!).

Just keep reminding yourself its just because he's smart:D


yes tea lady did have good advice....and i like yours too....ill try let him help with dressing himself next time.....getting him to sleep i think will be the biggest challenge:sleeping: :banghead:

[buzzing bee]

Oh and last night at 12am he woke up and came in our room trying to hop in bed with us....we told him No you need to go back to your bed (he has been doing this alot lately also)...so I took him back and told him there's no need to be scared....we leave our door open and his too and also have a night light for him......and I told him his mum and dad will not let anything scary happen to him so he knew....so he got back in and looked as though he may sleep but nope he got back up....needless to say DH tried yet another 40mins to get him to go back to bed....he is just relentless though....in the end Dh and I said to him we are going to sleep and you need to take yourself back to your bed....
(we had tried to do this for him and tuck him in but he wouldnt stop getting up and screaming)

so in the end he brought his pillow and blanket into our room and slept on the floor....

I know this sounds so cruel of us and i did feel terrible but he just wouldnt listen to reason all he wanted was to sleep in our bed and while thats ok sometimes i can understand....he has just been doing it heaps lately and i think its becoming a bad habbit as he generally comes in at the same times each night......and the only reason he went back to sleep is because he exausted himself.....
thankyou for letting me get this all out!

I am going against the grain here and going to say,
Do you think it is possible that he has some separation anxiety and is just wanting you more at the moment?

I am sorry but what you said above does sound harsh and I don't think my 2 year old would understand it if I said there was no need to be scared etc.

I still stay in her room on the floor on a mattress to put her to bed and I am quite happy to do that and I don't feel like she has the power over me.

[buzzing bee]

I am trying to add a link to a great website called parenting and health health.
www.cyh.com/
and follow it to child and family health
or
www.cyh.com/SubDefault.aspx2p=98

Anyway hopefully someone can work out what I mean

[HugsAndKisses]

I am going against the grain here and going to say,
Do you think it is possible that he has some separation anxiety and is just wanting you more at the moment?

I am sorry but what you said above does sound harsh and I don't think my 2 year old would understand it if I said there was no need to be scared etc.

I still stay in her room on the floor on a mattress to put her to bed and I am quite happy to do that and I don't feel like she has the power over me.

thanks for your reply.....i UNderstand i sounded harsh letting him sleep on the floor but he had just made it all so difficult.....the main thing was he was really playing on it by not letting DH do it...he only wanted me....but even when i did tuck him in he would just kick off his blankets a few mins later and be calling out again.......and then the week following that he has been fairly good with it...but tonight has been a little challenging...

we do make sacrifices to make him more comfortable....for example our house is two story so i stay upstairs untill he is fast asleep...which is a bit of a pain casue id love to be downstairs watching telly with DH and spending time with him.....

but i do understand what you are trying to say and i thank u for ur reply:hugs:

[tired*mummy]

Hugs&Kisses :hugs: It can be really frustrating. My eldest daughter is 4 & she did this when she was 2. The only thing i would say to try (& i know its extremely hard in the middle of the night) is to just keep taking him back to bed. First time give him a kiss, cuddle etc & ask him to stay in bed. If he gets out, take him back dont say anything to him, no kiss, cuddle & walk out. Keep doing it, even if it takes hours. It might take a few nights. Its so annoying & frustrating & i used to get very angry also. Also with the tanties i would just completely ignore them. Just walk away & tell him you will only talk or pay attention to him when he has stopped his tantrum/screaming. My DD's also did this & still do occassionally & i just ingore them & say when you have finished we will talk about it properly. Its worked quite well for me.
When they are that age i think its just about trial & error as to what works for you & your child.
Sending you heaps of :hugs: though as it can be a trying time.

[mishlc]

:hugs: Sounds very similar to my DD.

My DH gets really upset when she doesn't want to go to him or when she doesn't let him do things. Like if she watches the Wiggles if DH starts to sing and dance she goes "No, stop" and holds up her hand to say stop and sort of pushes telling him to go away and gets really worked up about it, but I'm allowed to sing :rolleyes:

I think its just an age thing.....I normally ignore her when she has her little tantys.
Maybe if he comes down, let him lay where he wants and just ignore him??? I don't really know, anything is worth a try but in the end, I do just thinks its their age....