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serendipity22
27-07-2007, 11:22
I have parents saying they were not allowed to be present during a circumcision.
It might be interesting to explore why a circumcising doctor might not wish a parent to be present.
So put your thinking caps on folks and suggest some possible reasons why this might be so.
Have fun exploring the topic ....
I would say it could be distressing to the parents. I know when my babies cried it upset me.
dont know for sure though could be heaps of reasons.
When I had my son done, they told me that I could not stay in because they needed to keep the environment sterile. I was allowed in until he was put to sleep then they whisked me out.
that makes no sense at all...if they did it in the same room that he was put to sleep in wouldnt you have already taken germs in with you? could you explain a bit better how it worked? I didnt think they used general on babies?(sorry got no idea)
that makes no sense at all...if they did it in the same room that he was put to sleep in wouldnt you have already taken germs in with you? could you explain a bit better how it worked? I didnt think they used general on babies?(sorry got no idea)
I was not in the acutual theatre where they preform the surgery, in was the room leading into there. The guy came in and put my son to sleep with gas then they wheeled him through.
maybe like other medical procedures the drs prefer the parents not there as it adds extra stress to the situation and if an emegancy arises (sp?) then they have to not only worry about the child but getting the strassed parent out of the procedure room, also hygein insurance may also play a part in it. Also if it is done under a general then as far as i know there is strict rules in the theartres that no one other then medical staff are to be present in the operating rooms, i know with all my DD operations we went as far as her sleeping with the gas then we leave before the full general
I was not in the acutual theatre where they preform the surgery, in was the room leading into there. The guy came in and put my son to sleep with gas then they wheeled him through.
ok. was confused i thought it was just done in the doctors rooms.(not in a hospital)
SassyMummy
27-07-2007, 12:12
I can KINDA understand the sterile thing... but I mean, I had a caesarean, and my partner was allowed in there. My whole stomach was cut open, but he was in there.
Of course, had all sorts of weird surgical clothes on (like hat, shoe-covers, pants and top thing), but he was still in there all the same...
Why wouldn't they just do something like that instead of saying, "Nope, sorry, you can't come in"??
I have deleted some off topic posts. Please refrain from making off topic, judgemental or argumentative responses. It does not relate to the OP.
A question has been asked:
I have parents saying they were not allowed to be present during a circumcision.
It might be interesting to explore why a circumcising doctor might not wish a parent to be present.
So put your thinking caps on folks and suggest some possible reasons why this might be so.
Have fun exploring the topic ....
Any further off topic or argumentative posts will be deleted and will incur infractions or warnings as necessary.
Cheers
that makes no sense at all...if they did it in the same room that he was put to sleep in wouldnt you have already taken germs in with you? )
i was in the theatre (private hospital) with dd holding her hand and sroking her face while she was put under and the drip inserted for her op.
i think in the case of circ its so the parents are not watching...and i know id hand my baby over. i wouldnt want to watch it. id be happy for them to bring him out after its all done.
mum_I'm_hungry
27-07-2007, 22:44
My guess is that it would be about not watching. If the parents are there, it is just another thing for everyone working in theatre to worry about, rather than concentrating on the task at hand. I know my husband HATES it when parents/husbands/partners hover behind him as he puts epidurals in and I can see that -- extra pressure! Plus, doing anaesthetics, he says parents can often react badly to seeing their child under a general anaesthetic (they do tend to look more than a little bit dead).
Funkychicken
27-07-2007, 22:47
Any procedure done under a general exempts the parents from being present. A circumcision is a surgical procedure and that immediately rules out anyone not on the medical staff from being in the theatre.
stellarella
27-07-2007, 22:51
I think its because the procedure is very graphic and disturbing. If anyone has googled circumcision and seen how it is done they will understand why parents cant be present.
I think it keeps the whole process 'cleaner' and easier to deal with if the mum/dad is not there watching while their son is strapped to a table and the plastibell (or whatever else they may use) is attached.
Perhaps its a case of 'out of sight, out of mind'...I think it would be a good thing to have parents present as it might influence the decision a bit more. I believe that parents should own the decision they have made rather than being protected from the reality of it.
FunkyMonkey
27-07-2007, 23:00
When DS was circed I wasn't allowed in the room. I would probably have grabbed him and done a runner if I'd know what the end result REALLY would have looked like. The first thing that came into my mind when they bought him to me was "GET THAT GODDAMN THING OFF HIM!!!". I really wish I had said so.
I deeply regret having him circed, if we are ever blessed with another boy, he will NOT be circed.
I just hope he can forgive me.
stellarella
27-07-2007, 23:09
:crying: :crying: :crying: :hugs:
Ange&Seth
28-07-2007, 02:24
I think its because the procedure is very graphic and disturbing. If anyone has googled circumcision and seen how it is done they will understand why parents cant be present.
'When I do good no one remembers, when I do bad no one forgets' - the bad stuff is easier to believe. Have you actually been present during a circumcision? How can you be sure that what you've 'googled' isn't just a one off?
I think it keeps the whole process 'cleaner' and easier to deal with if the mum/dad is not there watching while their son is strapped to a table and the plastibell (or whatever else they may use) is attached.
Not all boys are strapped to a table. Please don't generalise, I don't believe that to be entirely fair.
Perhaps its a case of 'out of sight, out of mind'...I think it would be a good thing to have parents present as it might influence the decision a bit more. I believe that parents should own the decision they have made rather than being protected from the reality of it.
I do 'own' the decision to have my child circumcised. I was with him the whole time. I held him.
To everyone - please don't use scare tactics on people thinking about having this done.
Education over intimidation :thumbsup: Please, speak to your doctor to get all the medical information available, do your research and then make the decision you feel is best for your son, whatever that may be :thumbsup:
mumx3littlies
28-07-2007, 07:08
I think its because the procedure is very graphic and disturbing. If anyone has googled circumcision and seen how it is done they will understand why parents cant be present.
I think it keeps the whole process 'cleaner' and easier to deal with if the mum/dad is not there watching while their son is strapped to a table and the plastibell (or whatever else they may use) is attached.
Perhaps its a case of 'out of sight, out of mind'...I think it would be a good thing to have parents present as it might influence the decision a bit more. I believe that parents should own the decision they have made rather than being protected from the reality of it.
Woohoo well said! :yelclap: I totally agree.
serendipity22
03-08-2007, 18:31
There must be more possible reasons. They don't have to be real, just hypothetical. There are many possibilities.
For example:
If you were doing circumcision as a business, what would be business advantages of not allowing parents to be present?
Several off topic posts have been deleted, please let's return to the topic.
Why do we think some doctors do not permit parents to be present?
I think that the most useful answer to this would be from parents who have experience with a doctor's explanantion for this.
If we can't keep on topic, this thread will be closed.
Cheers
serendipity22
12-08-2007, 12:19
a doctor's explanantion for this.
Yes, it would be interesting to know what the different explanations are.
mayzie82
13-08-2007, 00:28
i was told by the dr who did my first son that it would be easier if i was out of the room as it could be distressing to the parents with the child crying or even the possibility of the parents fainting with my second son the dr asked me to wait outside but explained why a father was in with his son previously was because of his religion (either jewish or muslim sorry cant remember) and that it was a custom of the father to be present so i guess it must really be up to the dr as to whether the let the parent be there if it is important to you to be there i guess its a case of discussing it with the doctor though in my case both my boys were done in the first few weeks of life not under an anesthetic :)
There must be more possible reasons. They don't have to be real, just hypothetical. There are many possibilities.
For example:
If you were doing circumcision as a business, what would be business advantages of not allowing parents to be present?
Well, I guess the obvious answer to that would be that if your business has an unsavoury or upsetting aspect about it, you are going to want to shield your consumers from experiencing that aspect, or it could harm your chances of repeat business, or having business increase through word of mouth.
Ange&Seth
13-08-2007, 11:25
Speculation can be upsetting at times. The image of doctors rubbing their hands together at the thought of another baby boy to circumcise. I find that to be in poor taste.
As is so often pointed out in these threads, circumcision is at an all time low - therefore not many circumcisions are being performed - therefore it wouldn't be anyone's 'business'. There are more ways for doctor's to make money.
if its done in the OR then the answer is obvious no one other then medics gopast the anasteic station for any operation, you can generaly go as far as bub being put under then mummy say byby until recovery
If its not done in the OR and done in treatment room it would be up to the dr performing the procedure, same as other smal ops like tongue tie if the dr is happy to have parent therre then they are if not they arent, it is more for the parents then anything it think, some parents would be would not be so cooperative and that would not be a fair enviroment for a surgen to perform an operation
As for it having anything to do with the drs keeping there reputation ect i think that is hillarious why would sugens want to get lots og circs to do there are lots more interesting operations for them to do
I have parents saying they were not allowed to be present during a circumcision.
It might be interesting to explore why a circumcising doctor might not wish a parent to be present.
So put your thinking caps on folks and suggest some possible reasons why this might be so.
Have fun exploring the topic ....
***personal attack removed by moderator***
Fortunately the question from am medical procedure perspective in a hospital has been answered from people who know the rules. WRT a non-hospital based procedure it is dependant on the Dr who does the procedure. I was present for both of my sons Bris' and the procedure was very quick.
serendipity22
15-08-2007, 19:37
I don't think there are laws that say a parent cannot be present in either a hospital or private setting (but I don't know for sure).
Fathers can be present during a c-section birth, though it did take some time before fathers were allowed to present at birth.
Does anyone know of a law that says a parent cannot be present?
Ange&Seth
15-08-2007, 19:39
I don't think there are laws that say a parent cannot be present in either a hospital or private setting (but I don't know for sure).
Fathers can be present during a c-section birth, though it did take some time before fathers were allowed to present at birth.
Does anyone know of a law that says a parent cannot be present?
If there IS a law saying parents cannot be present, then my doctor broke that law. I was with my son the whole time.
serendipity22
15-08-2007, 20:14
If there IS a law saying parents cannot be present, then my doctor broke that law. I was with my son the whole time.
It would seem that a doctor might suggest you cannot be present, but they cannot enforce it.
Ange&Seth
15-08-2007, 20:22
It would seem that a doctor might suggest you cannot be present, but they cannot enforce it.
Hmm, no I think they CAN enforce it, because of medico-legal issues. In saying that though, I think it's up to the individual doctor - or the hospital/day centre that the doctor is performing the procedure at.
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