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Mischief
18-07-2007, 11:42
A nice new thread for you all to post till your hearts are content.

Enjoy yourselves lovely ladies!

hayleylea
18-07-2007, 13:12
Hi guys

Apologies in advance...I havent had time to catch up everyones posts.

I have had a pretty full on couple of days with Cooper being in hospital for 2 nights! :crying: His temp hit 40 monday afternoon and i couldnt get it down so headed off to the hospital and nothing they did got it down either. So they took blood tests, Xrays, and admited us for the night. I stayed with him the first night and we didnt get any sleep...well i didnt. So of course that brought on my MS worse then ever!!!! :barf: Anyway his temp finally settled in the early hours of tuesday morning and then sky rocketed to 40 again....so they took us for a chest XRAY which i wasnt allowed to hold him because i was pregnant....it came back all clear. So the best explanation we got was it was a BAD virus! Last night I left the hospital at around 7.30 because i was sick and soooo tired. Trent stayed with him the night. I came home and zonked and woke up about 8 and went straight back out there to find the little man still asleep till 9am. He woke up happy though and gave me the biggest smile and cuddle and then i took him down to the toy room and it was the first time id seen him play since he fell sick..he spent the whole of tuesday asleep basically....His temp is normal again and we just got back to mums from the hospital. He is happy so im happy.

It was a horrible experience seeing him so lethargic and getting poked and proded with needles etc. I cried more then once....and i feel like crying now even writing this (doesnt help with the pregnancy hormones i guess) Im just glad he is ok.

Im sorry ive missed everyones posts. Ill try and catch up over the next few days but dont like my chances because im still very sick.....

hope everyone is well and the new bubbies are thriving!

MrsMiggins
18-07-2007, 13:35
Oh my goodness, Hayley!! You poor thing!! That sounds like you've had a pretty traumatic few days. Poor Cooper! :( I'm glad he's feeling happier now. Damn! And you can't even relax with a beer or three!! Tell you what, I'll crack open a fresh bottle of red in your honour tonight, OK? No, no! Don't try & talk me out of it! It's the least I can do!

And Ahem!!! Cath & Anna - need I remind you two that you have newborn babies?!! How on earth are you managing to post so much?! Slow down please & start struggling a bit! You're making me look bad! :laughing:

D'oh! I have to go! Claire is getting into some mischief in the lounge room... :rolleyes:

hayleylea
18-07-2007, 14:10
Go Ahead Fi - open as many bottles of wine you want...cause i need a few drinks so you might aswell have them for me! lol

MrsMiggins
18-07-2007, 14:19
It's a done deal! :yes:

Moorish
18-07-2007, 18:34
Holy cr@p Hayles! Oh I'm so glad to hear that Cooper's ok. Has he been given anything for it or will it just pass?? I've heard this years viruses are hanging around for a good 6 weeks :eek: That's a bloody long time! I'm glad to hear you got a little rest but what cr@ppy timing for all this to be happening. :hugs:

Fi - that can NOT be your little boy in your avatar?? Oh my WORD what a stunning smile he has! Hurry up and load some pics for us in full so we can check your kiddies out in 17inch size!!! (Or whatever size everyone's pc monitors are! :laughing:)
As for posting, I'm just stealing a few mins where I can so don't be surprised if you don't hear from me in 24 hours, just means I'm busy.

Shane comes home tonight :smiliedance: he'll be here by about 9:30 and I've only just gotten home with the girls from my nans house. She's not going to handle being away for so long.
The girls had a few hours there today while I spent some time out with Alex printing up some photos for nan to take with her, and I browsed Target and bought a couple of cardigans. I really need tops though but I'm still about a 16-18 in size which really blows. I don't feel comfortable but I know it'll take a bit of time so I'm trying not to stress.

Ok, kids running everywhere and boobs about to burst as Alex's feeds have been all over the show today due to him sleeping SOOOOO much today. Hmmmm wonder how he's going to go tonight??

We're off to the Target toy sale tomorrow so I must go circle a few things in the catalogue so we're not there for hours!

Katcha
18-07-2007, 18:53
Hayley, sorry to hear about Cooper being so sick & in hospital. :hugs: It's so horrible to see them like that isn't it? But that's great that he's well again now & nice & happy again.

Cath, love those photos of Paddy with his little brother. They're so cute! :)

OK, saw the Dr this afternoon....showed her my HPT & she was happy that I'm pregnant. SHe didn't do another test to confirm it, but I had to have a blood test but I don't think it was to confirm it but to check out other stuff. Anyway she reckon I'd be 5 weeks & a few days....but that's not possible.....AF was around for a while then! I reckon I'm more like 4 weeks.

Oh, gotta go now....dinner's ready!

Wivi
18-07-2007, 19:37
Hello again everyone,

Hayley - so sorry that Cooper was so ill. That would have been very scary and really hard to cope with when you are not well yourself. Here's hoping that he continues to improve for you. Also I hope you start to feel better soon yourself - how many weeks are you now?

Fi - Owen looks like such a beautiful boy in your avatar. And soooo happy! Wow - he is growing up really fast isn't he?

Renee - due dates crack me up. My Ob always said I was due later than I thought I was and what do you know? Will was born early. I remember he quite randomly added a week or so to my original due date at the beginning of the pregnancy which I never did understand.

Anna - I swear you are a super Mum! I can't believe you are going to the Target toy sale tomorrow! Has anyone ever told you about REST! Geez - you are one crazy lady! Good on you though - you are a true example of how you can get on with life with kids in tow.

OK ladies. I am going to break all my rules here in this thread and get a bit personal. I tend to hold things pretty close to my chest and try to just blab on about Will in here. I know there are other parts of BH where I can talk about different things but I feel comfortable with you guys. So here goes. DH and I would like to have another bub ( no real surprise there) and earlier this year I stopped taking the pill. Actually, I think it was right back at the beginning of the year. Obviously I have no news to share otherwise I probably would have told you guys. I'm starting to feel a bit discouraged because we pretty much fell PG with Will straight away and also because it was a big decision for me to say Yes to trying again after the PND. Up until now we haven't done anything technical or anything, just haven't been careful at all. The major problem I think is that my AF has been all over the place - mostly a short cycle but this month has been a long one. I did do a test today and it was negative so I know that it is just late. So I have some questions for you all. What's next? How do those ovulation test things work? What do you do? I kind of asked my GP once about regulating my cycle and she just said it would probably settle down in time - and kind of indicated that regulating meant going on the pill which obviously isn't an option!

Now that I've blurted that all out I want you all to know that I am OK about it - we kind of figure it'll happen in the right time for us. But we might like to get a bit more scientific about it all.

If you have any advice or info for me I would appreciate it!

Gotta go - have a nice night all!

MrsMiggins
18-07-2007, 20:53
Hey Tan! I can give you the benefit of my experience here. We tried for a long, long time before we managed to fall PG with Claire - 26 months of concerted trying and a little while before that as well. All up, it was nearly 3 years. We had tests done etc. etc. but we were one of the "lucky" ones labelled with "Unexplained Infertility". Basically there was no medical reason we couldn't fall PG, it just wasn't happening. My cycles since coming off the pill were just all over the place. I could never know when AF would show up. Therefore ovulation kits are pretty much a waste of time. I mean, you can try, but it's just hit & miss. My cycles were very, very irregular though. Everything from 26 days to 62 days. They tended to be longer rather than shorter, so for me there was no point in buying ovulation tests because unless I wanted to buy like 10 & start them early, there wasn't much chance of me finding the LH surge.

Instead I tried charting my BBT. There are a lot of people (my Dr included) who claim it's pointless because it can only tell you when you've already ovulated, when you'll already have missed your chance, but for me it was invaluable. It was the only way for me to know what was happening with my cycles.

So if you're interested, you can do that, but you do have to be pretty committed. It takes a bit of time to remember to do it each morning.

If you've been trying for more than 6 months, it might be an idea to see your GP & just ask where to go from here. They'll probably test Troy first, as it's less invasive, cheaper & easier. Then if that's all clear, they'll likely send you for some blood tests & possibly an u/s. Depending on your medical history, they'll test you for things like hormone levels, thyroid function etc. An u/s can be used to check for any obstructions, fibroids, or other abnormalities.

I know it's really hard when you want a baby to keep getting those BFN's (trust me, I know!!) and I know the last thing you want to hear is that you haven't been trying long & that it'll happen (I could've punched every single person who said that to me!!) but it really may just be that everything's normal & you just haven't hit the jackpot yet.

With regard to regulating your cycle, I've heard that you can sometimes go on the pill for a few months, then go off it & it's meant to kickstart it for you, but I was never game to have that 3 month break myself. Plus, I was pretty sure being on the pill was what screwed my cycles up in the first place.

There are some herbal remedies you can try that can help regulate your cycle. Maybe that's something you could look into?

If you want to ask me anything, feel free! I spent months looking for info on it all! Hopefully you won't need it though & this will be your month! :hugs:

Renee, that's great you got your confirmation!! I bet the next 8 months just fly by!!

Anna, I know!! He's a big lad!! I can't believe how big he's getting!! He was almost 8kg at his 4m check up (he was about 3.5 born) And he was 64cm (he was 51 when he was born)!! I have just got some pics onto my computer, so I'll try & upload some to photobucket when I can. It just takes sooooooooo long on dial up!!

Hayles, I'm finishing off a glass of red as I type! ;)

Lou, I hope Maddi is OK!!

Ange, hellllooooo...... Where are you?!

MrsMiggins
18-07-2007, 21:38
OK Gals! It's taken me half the night to upload 3 photos, but here they are, as promised!!

My Couch Potatoes (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/ClaireOwenontheCouch1.jpg)

Cheeky!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/CheekyClaireOwen1.jpg)

(Yes, there was a third, but I'm having issues with Photobucket, so I'll have to post it later!)

ETA: OK, here's the third one, but it's sideways. I was trying to edit it to turn it around the right way when I ran into issues, so you'll all just have to look at it with your heads on the side!! lol

Helping Mummy Make a Cake (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/ClaireLickingtheWoodenSpoon2.jpg)

Wivi
19-07-2007, 10:26
Thanks Fi for sharing that info with me. I know it hasn't been very long and I am not really bothered about it yet but I just didn't know what options are out there. I suspected that the ovulation things might be a bit useless for me and I am pretty sure that it is all because my cycle is quite irregular. I am considering going to see a doctor that my MIL has been to who looks at hormone levels etc and has a more "natural" approach to regulating things with diet etc. I'd like to try to regulate myself before looking at anything else, including going back on the pill!

One of the reasons we are not too concerned at this point is that we kind of look at it (and I don't mean to offend people) as it all being in God's plan. We will fall PG at the right time and we have prayed in the past that it happens when it is right for me. That would mean that I am comfortable with the idea and with the PND issue.

Saying that however, I think it would be a bonus to regulate my cycle as it is very annoying the way it is!

Alright - better go. Will is in his highchair eating lunch and given that he fell asleep there again yesterday I shouldn't leave him for too long.

Oh - Fi - LOVE those pictures. What beautiful kids. I could just kiss the both of them! Owen is so spunky!

hayleylea
19-07-2007, 10:46
Hey guys,

Anna - they gave Cooper antibiotics, aswell as having a virus he also had a little ear infection and inflamation around the tonsill area. He had another temp last night but he slept well and he seems Ok today.

Tan - I cant really help you out with all the ovulation stuff. I gave you the site i used to determine when i ovulated etc...but my cycles are as regular as they come! SMACK bang on 33 days...goodluck Im sure it will happen at the right time~ it can get a bit frustrating though. Sending you lots of luck :D

Fi - OMG how Owen has grown!!!!! SOOOO CUTE! Him and Claire look alot alike too dont they! They are just gorgeous. They grow up so fast!

Anna - I headed to the target toy sale today.....i felt like **** but i promised my sister i would go. IT was a mad house but i got everything i needed and straight into layby so that was a bonus.

Renee - thats good about the doctor! let us know how your blood tests go.

OK i better go grab some lunch..

talk soon

cath
19-07-2007, 11:44
Oh Hayley you poor thing. How scary. So sad to have a lethargic little man on your hands when they are normally full of beans - it's a real worry. Glad to hear he came out of it okay -hope is still going okay now. Well done getting to the crazy toy sale when you feel like **** -we push ourselves through hell sometimes as mothers don't we.

Tan I can totally empathise with you about the crazy cycles. Mine were irregular after coming off the pill after 10 years and it was a bit of a battle to get pregnant both the first time(miscarriage) and with Paddy. Mine were anywhere from 31 days to 46 days (not as nuts as yours Fi -how bloody annoying). I successfully used the ovulation testing kits to get pregnant those first 2 times (just used a heap of them -I didn't care about the cost - I was so keen to get pregnant then). I would start testing about day 13 and keep going until I got that line which was sometimes on day 24 (so I would often use about 10 tests per cycle). You ovulate 14 days before your period appears I think. I often ovulated some time after day 20 -think Paddy was conceived on day 22. I have 20 tests here that are not going to be used (was going to go through the whole thing again with this last pregnancy but miraculously got pregnant the first month when I couldn't be bothered testing). If you are open to it I am seriously happy to post them up to you (they will probably just end up in the bin here in a years time - they expire next July when we will probably TTC again but I wouldn't trust them so close to expiry and will just buy more). PM your address and I will post them up to you if you want them - happy for them to be put to good use. I bought them from Lullaby Conceptions website where they were pretty cheap from memory if you want to look at getting more after this lot. Back when I was TTC Paddy I was paying $60 for 10 tests -these were $30 for 20 ovulation tests + 20 pregnancy tests - oh yeah -I can send you those too. Anyway just let me know if you want them but as you say it will happen when it is meant to and don't feel pressured to get all scientific about it if you're not at that stage yet.

Fi I just love your avatar of Owen!! What a little spunk. Love the photos of him and Claire too - they are so alike and look so cute together. Did those neighbours calm down last night?

Renee good to hear you got to see the Dr. What's your next step? Working out the whole date thing can be tricky sometimes. My dates were always moved because of my longer cycles (think Will was conceived on about day 20 so his due date got moved about a bit too). Did you have morning sickness with Katelyn?

Anna I hope your Nan gets off to Greece okay today (without too many tears from eveyone -especially you poor post-baby hormonal woman). How good was that big sleep from Alex the other night?? Will definitely has his days and nights confused and was up every 1.5-2 hours last night and had another session from 11:30-2am where he would not settle. Today I am waking him every 3 hours for a feed rather than letting him do the 4 hour day sleeps he has been doing. The MCHN nurse who came yesterday also said I should just keep him on one side for feeds overnight so he gets the denser breastmilk which might help and express the other side a bit if it is uncomfortable (the engorgement is calming down thankfully). Today I am forcing myself off to bed for a day nap -I have this crazy post-baby mania I had after Paddy too and can't stop doing stuff but then I am so buggered at night and then only get snippets of sleep which is ****. I can't believe you are off to the toy sale too - you are a whirlwind -good effort. I am having a whole week at home in my tracksuit pants and PJ's before I venture out -would love to hit the shops but I know I would feel it later on if I did -bloody caesar. scar.

Anway it's almost the 3 hour mark for Will so better go and start poking him (how do you normally get Alex to wake up -I guess a nappy change will do it). Chat soon.

cath
19-07-2007, 13:02
We have just had it confirmed that Dean is going away to Boston,USA for a conference in 2 weeks time and he will be away for 8 days!! Crazy!! Thank goodness my parents will be around so I will be off to live with them for a bit over a week which will actually be good. Mum is mostly around during the day so she can help me with Paddy instead of it just being me and the boys while Dean is at work -much better- less lifting of Paddy for me and more entertainment for Paddy. Also means I have someone else cooking dinner everynight ( I will help of course) - excellent!! It is so cool for Dean (he is flying business class and staying at the Westin in Boston -nice!) and will really be a bit of extra rest for me.

Anyway I think Will might be slowly shifting his clock. He has woken spontanesously at 3 hourly intervals today and is having a bit of awake time now which is much better than in the middle of the night tonight hopefully. Waiting for him to drift off then I will be off for a rest myself. Hope everyone is well.

bingo
19-07-2007, 14:18
Hi guys.
wow a lot has happened on here the last few days and the thread moved too.
Hayley :hugs: how scary for you guys. Poor little Coops. Good that they didn't just send you home without at least observing him. There are some very nasty viruses around at the moment. I don't know if you remember but a few weeks ago Maddi had that high temp thing that wouldn't go away and they put her on antibiotics then another course of antibiotics ect. They just sent us home after a 5 minute consultation and we had to deal with it on our own. So I am glad to hear they took better care of you guys.
Tan, I wish I had some info for you but we haven't been down that road yet so can't offer you any pearls of wisdom there. It sounds like a few of us have some good information to pass on which is great. I'll be sending you some :babydust2: over the upcoming months.
Renee Congrats! How exciting for you and hubby. AND on your high distinction. How you manage to study as well as work is beyond me. A pass mark would have impressed me.
Anna and Cath your boys are so small and cute. I held a bubba yesterday and got that cluck cluck cluck happening.
Fi - how adorable are those photo's! My god girl those two are just edible. Chocolate coating and all. Claire is a very cheeky photo indeed. Owen just looks so cruisy.
Check out what Maddi made today
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/aspecialpicture.jpg so yes you can imagine how impressed I was with that one. She managed to sneak into the study and do it while i was happily vacuuming away.
Maddi's ears have finally stopped oozing and they seem to be on the road to recovery at long last. I faxed the GP's treatment plan to the surgeon and he agreed with his plan so that was a relief to know that at least one doctor here got it right. So she is on these eardrops and antibiotics until Sunday. BUT today I just noticed that she has come out in a rash on her back and legs that looks like the antibiotic rash. I rang the GP and queried it and he said if it wasn't bothering her to not worry. So we'll see how it goes. Knowing my luck she will wait until the weekend to have a high temp ect when no doctors are available. I have read my previous posts and fair dinkum, I just get on here and winge, winge winge. So I just want to say Thanks so much for listening to me and putting up with me and for supporting me these past few months. You guys have really helped me through some tough times.

bingo
19-07-2007, 14:19
Cath - I forgot to say make sure you give Dean a big shopping list of sneakers for the boys. 8 days! He's really going to miss you guys.

MrsMiggins
19-07-2007, 16:49
Lou, by no means do you only get on here to whinge!! And even if you did, my god woman!! You would certainly have every right to! You've been having a rough trot!

Cath, OMG! I can't believe you're going to have to tough it out without Dean for 8 days! That is really good your parents will be there to help. I know I'd go crazy having to deal with my two on my own for an extended period. During the day is OK, but dinner & bedtimes would be a disaster! I bet Dean will miss you guys so much!! I'm with Lou, BTW. Send him off with a big shopping list! :yes:

ETA: I just checked out that pic you posted, Lou! Do you know what? Claire did nearly the exact same artwork the other day along the entire length of the mirrored wardrobe doors in her old room! At least mine was probably easier to clean off than yours!!

Moorish
19-07-2007, 17:01
Hi girls!

Tan - OMG Tan! Thanks so much for sharing all that stuff with us! I'm so glad you feel comfortable telling us, I feel the same. Well done in making the decision to go for #2 - I can see how the decision would be tough to make, but we've chatted a little about it before. As for regulating your AF, unfortunately your Dr is right, it will get there in time & only the pill will help it which doesn't help with the whole conception thing!! As for ovulation testers, we used a Maybe Baby for 6 weeks and we fell pregnant in the 1st month of trying for Alex. The good thing about it is that you use it once in the morning and it's reusable so whatever your cycle, it's guaranteed to pick up when ovulation is about to happen. We used it more for pin-pointing exact ovulation for conceiving a boy, rather than just finding that "right" date. My AF was like clockword to begin with. Anyway, I loaned mine to a girlfriend 2 months ago after she'd been trying for nearly 12 months (for her first). Anyway, she's been using it and news at the time she visited us in hospital was that her AF was late so I'm waiting for her :bfp: news! LOL! There are also POAS ovulation sticks but they can get very expensive and you really need to use them several times a day to make sure you don't "miss" your ovulation - that's if you know a rough day of when it's happening. I'll try and think of anymore info for you. Fi's information is excellent by the way!
Oh by the way - LMAO! No supermum here, just like you said - getting on with life really! Shane's home now so we all went in and I already had stuff circled in the catalogue so I didn't spend too much time wandering, dawling & spending too much! Still, I thought it was a bit disappointing really, same stuff as last year - not much new.

Renee - I simply can NOT remember if I congratulated you on your :bfp: or not! CONGRATULATIONS! I hope the next 8 (or so) months is quick and easy for you! I'm betting on it going in a flash!

Fi - OH THANK YOU THANK YOU!! Thanks for spending ages uploading those gorgeous photos for us! Claire has barely changed at all since I met you guys and Owen is a dead ringer for her!!! Same cute little button nose, same gorgeous lips and same lovely little face! Just gorgeous children that you produce!

Cath - I can totally understand you not wanting to get out of the house with your caesar scar - my body really took a beating this labour & I'm still stiff and sore like I've run a marathon or something. Not to mention the discomfort of my prolapse which is a constant reminder that I've just had a baby. However, kids still need to go to school & errands still need to be run etc.
As for the feeding - I'm giving Alex 1 full side & offering the other side at each feed. That way he drains one side completely and eases the other. The last thing I want to be doing is to be expressing a whole side at 3am! Last night we put Alex to bed at 11pm and he just lay there looking around, amusing himself for nearly an hour before he drifted happily to sleep. He woke at 4am for a feed then I had to wake him at 8am for another feed. I'm living in bliss at the moment but just waiting for the newborn phase to snap & then we'll see what happens! LOL!
Crazy about Dean going away for work! What does he do again? You're very lucky to have family close by, I think I'd flip if Shane was sent overseas this early on in the game!

Lou - good to hear from you again! LMAO at your little Picaso there but really mum, build a bridge! :D I'm sure it would have all come off in 2 seconds with some of those wipes I see in the photo! PMSL! (You know I'm kidding right??!!) Good news that Maddi is FINALLY on her way to good health again - apart from the rash that is! I've still got a copy of Immy's rash from antibiotics on file if you need to compare - my Dr said to take her off straight away & come and get another brand to which Immy had no further reaction to. Is the antibiotic the same as she always takes or a different brand? If it's different, I'd be questioning why? How are you by the way? Are you getting any sleep lately? I always wonder just how you're doing really. Hopefully you have your mind at ease very soon once Maddi stops these nasty infectons now that she has grommets!

Ok so this has taken me forever to write and I must go finish dinner.
I'll pop back on later and post some more.
xoxo

cath
19-07-2007, 18:30
Hi again,
final post for the day while Dean is organising dinner (he has been so good on the domestic front -I have been very impressed).

Lou you definitely don't just get on here and whinge and we all have our whinges -that's the great part about the whole thing - we are all going to have good times and bad times and it is so nice to be able to support each other. Nice artwork Maddi!! Did you get it off? Poor little girl with her ears. How annoying about the rash too -hope she is going okay. At least you didn't have to come all the way to Melbourne again. Do you reckon the sneakers would be cheap over there? I'd better have a look at the exchange rate.

Fi I am so lucky to have my parents to go to. My thoughts were exactly the same - how the hell am I going to get the bath etc. done each night (especially as I really shouldn't even be picking Paddy up by then). Living with my parents for the 8 days will actually be easier than being at home while Dean is at work so it won't be toughing it out at all thank goodness.

Anna Dean works for NAB in IT -he is going to some sort of IT conference (I haven't even asked the details -probably should do that). Good to hear Shane made it home safely. I am trying to do the full feed on one side and offer the other for relief too but Will is always zonked from the one side (and full I think). I wake him up with a nappy change between sides usually but he never wants the second side. Oh well -my boobs are slowly settling down and getting used to it so hopefully I won't be doing the middle of the night expressing.

Anway dinner is almost ready -better be off -wish me luck for at least a 3 hour block of sleep tonight (half the problem is me -takes me a bloody hour or so to get to sleep which is such a waste of time). Chat soon.

Wivi
19-07-2007, 19:15
Well everyone thanks for all your helpful info and your support. I am glad I shared it all with you now. I still don't understand how these ovulation testing things work - going to have to do some googling I think. For some reason I thought it was something like using a litmus stick in your urine every day and it gave you an indication when you ovulated. Not unlike a pregnancy test I guess. Hm - obviously I have never discussed this stuff before!

Lou - our little ones are such imps aren't they? Your artist there reminded me of something that happened a month or so ago when Troy was supposed to be watching Will. I was greeted at the door when I got home by a little boy saying "Oops Mummy". When I asked him what was "oops" he ran down into the back room where my office is and showed me red pencil scribbles on the back of the office chairs! It came off in about 2 seconds but it really was hilarious. I asked DH and he said he knew nothing at all about it! Typical. So glad Maddi's ears are healing now. I don't know very much about rashes etc but I'd just follow your instinct on that one.

Cath - oh my. Dean heading off for 8 days! The exchange rate is actually very good at the moment, the highest it has been for something like 20 years. So yes - send Dean shopping. And not just for the boys either! That's great you can stay with your parents. Your Mum can make you nice cups of T and chase after Paddy!

Anna - Alex sounds like a very content little boy. I don't have anything to compare it to but a nurse did tell me that fast labours can be very taxing on the body cause there is no easing into it IYKWIM? Mind you - this was shared with me way after Will was born after I had tried to be Superwoman! But I am quite sure you are stiff and sore let alone with that prolapse!

Had a chat (briefly) to Hayles today. Sending you lots of :hugs: hon - I know it feels like forever, but it will pass and get better.

Have also chatted a bit with Ange - she is just busy with a toddler and a few other things right now, but she is doing fine.

Anyway - gotta go and sew some new buttons on a parker for Will. Going to the farm for the weekend and it is freezing!

MrsMiggins
19-07-2007, 21:05
Tan, basically it pretty much is the same as a HPT, only you're checking for a different hormone. HPT's test for hCG, whereas an ovulation test checks for Lutenising Hormone. The idea is that you have an LH surge right before you release an egg, so once you get the positive test with the ovulation kit, you go for it. There are usually 5 (I think) in a pack, and you are meant to test once a day at the same time each day from around day 11 or 12 of your cycle (that is if you have a normal 28 day cycle, with a 14 day luteal phase). It should then pick up the LH surge prior to ovulation. Does that makes sense? It's a bit late, perhaps I've rambled a bit!! :o

Oh goodness! Just hearing you Cath & Anna, talking about those early days of BF!! In so many ways it feels as though Owen was only born days ago. It's hard for me to believe he's already 4 months old! But when I read your posts about all the early BF stuff, it really does seem like a long time ago! So here's hoping anyway that you both get through all the difficult & uncomfortable stuff quickly. :fingerscrossed:

Thanks everyone for your lovely comments about Claire & Owen's photos! I have some more recent ones (and you think Owen's big in the ones I already posted!! Wait til you see him now!!) but they'll have to wait for another day! Photobucket, dial-up & my geriatric computer are not a good mix!!

Katcha
19-07-2007, 22:35
Tan, sorry I can't help you with the ovulation test things. I never used them myself. I'm guessing there wouldn't have been much point the 1st time because my cycles used to be all over the place. But that's great that you guys are ready for another baby. I hope get preggers real soon! :fingerscrossed:

Fi, love the photos of Claire & Owen. Especially the cheeky one. And love your new avatar of Owen. He's such a cutie & I just can't believe how much he's grown!

Cath, I hope Will gets his days & nights sorted out soon for you so you can get a bit more uninterrupted sleep at night. I was like you when Katelyn was a baby. I really just wanted to get things done around the house when Katelyn was sleeping & just couldn't bear to take a nap during the day. Good on you for forcinv yourself to have a nap today!

Lou, good to hear that Maddi's getting better now. Hopefully the rash goes away soon & doesn't cause her any problems. Oh, & I hope Maddi's artwork wasn't too difficult to remove! :laughing:

Well, the next step for me is to go back to the Dr in a few weeks when I'll get the results of my blood & uring tests (unless there's anything wrong & then she'll call me earlier.) In the meantime I need to look around for an obstetrician! The one I used for Katelyn has moved to a different hospital up north. Just have to find one that's completely covered by my private insurance.

It was crazy hair day at Katelyn's day care today. I had no idea that it was crazy hair day & James was a bit worried when he picked her up that I would freak when I saw her since we were going out late night shopping tonight at the mall. I just laughed when i saw her cos she just looked so cute. We even took her out to the mall like that. I've uploaded a few photos (took me ages to download as well Fi!). hopefully they work!

Crazy Hair Day 1 (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x186/Port78/CrazyHairDay001.jpg)
Crazy Hair Day 2 (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x186/Port78/CrazyHairDay002.jpg)
Crazy Hair Day 3 (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x186/Port78/CrazyHairDay007.jpg)

hayleylea
20-07-2007, 09:06
Hi guys

Just read through allt he posts. Forgive me again for lack of personals - Im trying to keep up but i can barely keep up with myself these days!

Cooper seems to be OK now he is still on his antibiotics but is happy and sleeping well aswell. He has a bit of a snuffly nose but thats about it.

Lou - LOL about Maddis artwork. Cooper did the same thing today on my mums wall. Thankfully my nephew was with him so he only got to do a small picture and luckily it came straight off.

Cath - Enjoy your R&R at your parents house. I hope you managed to get a good sleep in last night!

Anna - i cant remember what i was going to say to you, only you seem to be coping with the new addition very well! WELL DONE!

Renee - do you have any idea about what date you will be due? Loved the photos of Katelyn and her crazy hair! very cute! (ETA: just looked at your signature and found your due date.....looks like we arent too far away from each other! YAY!)

OK guys, as you probably know im still struggling with this ALL day sickness. Im hoping there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Im thinking about you guys all the time and hopefully will be able to pop on more soon!!

cath
20-07-2007, 11:55
Hi again,
Tan I just love your new avatar -I love Will's hair!! If you ever get a chance can you put some photos up so we can see him in a bigger size - what a cute little man!! Fi's give you all the info about the tests -basically once you get the line you should ovulate in the next 24 hours or so.

Renee how hilarous about Katelyn's "crazy hair day" -did it come out okay? Good luck finding an Ob. They can be bloody expensive. We were still out of pocket for mine after private health insurance but I really like him and he is "average" in terms of out of pocket costs I think. All the medical bills are starting to roll in here -most of the baby bonus will pretty much go to medical bills which is a right pain. The 2 things we are getting done out of it is the car serviced (hasn't been done for a good year plus and is probably dangerous) and hopefully buying a dishwasher (there is no way I am going to keep on top of the dishes without one with 2 little boys on the go here now).


Fi that's so good to hear that breastfeeding is just cruising along for you now. As much as it is "natural" I think it will always take a concerted effort to get it going in the beginning. My friend who recently had her 3rd baby was comparing nipple damage stories with me yesterday -why the hell does it still happen with every baby -all a bit wrong really.

Hayley I am so glad Cooper is going okay. Your poor thing feeling so sick -how many weeks are you now? I really hope it passes for you soon.

Well last night I got much better sleep -Will did some 3 hour blocks and it only took me 15 minutes each time I got back into bed to get back to sleep which was much better so got a couple of good 2.5 hour sessions plus a 2 hour and another hour a bit - feeling much more rested today. My Mum told me the cortisone tablets I am taking for my stupid rash will muck around with my sleep a bit and make me a bit "buzzy" -that's good to know. Hopefully when I stop them in a couple of days things will settle down a bit.

Anway better go and get some photos organised to be printed. Been on my list of things to do since Monday and it is now Friday -where the hell has the week gone? Hope everyone is well.

MrsMiggins
20-07-2007, 12:23
OMG Renee!! How cute are those pics?! :D Claire would've been in trouble if she'd have been there - it wouldn't have been "crazy hair day" so much as "crazy scalp day" for her!! :laughing:

Oh Hayles, I'm so sorry you're still copping such terrible ms!! If only there was a miracel cure (aside from giving birth!!)



Originally posted by Cath:
My friend who recently had her 3rd baby was comparing nipple damage stories with me yesterday -why the hell does it still happen with every baby -all a bit wrong really.

:yes: I couldn't agree more!! I honestly think pain from nipple damage as a result of breast feeding is the worst pain imaginable!! I can't understand why it is so incredibly painful when it is a completely natural thing! You'd think Mother Nature would be on our side!

hayleylea
20-07-2007, 14:45
Hey guys

Im only 8 weeks so hopefully it will pass at atleast 12 weeks!!! im trying to hold onto that hope - and trying not to think of how long it lasted with Cooper!!!

Cath glad you got a better sleep last night.

sorry guys the toilet bowl is calling again! :banghead: (well actually bucket because i cant stand throwing up in a bucket :o :laughing: ) Today has been my worst throwing up day to date. YUCK!

Moorish
20-07-2007, 14:54
Hi all :wave:

Well I had a post all done earlier and I walk away from the computer for all of 10 seconds and Immy buggers it all up. :banghead: So I'll try again.

Renee - those photos of Katelyn are simply hilarious! Did you end up going out with her looking like that? Gee I'd have loved to have seen peoples reactions! LOL!!

Cath - Good to hear that Will is getting his body clock the right way around! As these boys get bigger they'll start drinking more milk so they should be able to empty one side and ease the other one off. We do the same as you do and change Alex inbetween feeds but if he's not hungry then he won't have anymore and will just lay there zonked out with my boob in his mouth! PMSL!

Tan - Fi's info is fantastic! I hope it all works out for you if you decide to use the ovulation sticks. Just remember that most instructions will say to use once a day at the same time of the day, but just keep in mind that some people can actually ovulate for less than 12 hours, rather than 24, so you might like to look at using 2-3 per day to make sure you catch that hormone "surge". Otherwise, if you're going to google stuff, take a look at this MAYBE BABY (http://www.maybebaby.com.au/_how_does_maybe_baby_work.php) site to see how the Maybe Baby ovulation tester works. Might be good for you because you can pinpoint ovulation by charting the results even if you don't know what your cycle is going to be. Also, it's reusable & you use it once a day in the morning before you have brekkie. Definately worth looking into.
As for my aches and pains, I still have syatic pain on one side but each day my body is slowly getting a little better. Now to get myself to physio and try to get this prolapse fixed!

Hayles - I'm sorry to hear that you're still going with the all-day sickness. Have you spoken to your Dr at all? Is there ANYTHING they can do for you? What makes some people more prone to it than others? Glad to hear you're getting some rest and being looked after a bit.

Fi - I can't wait for you to get broadband so you can post more photos more often! It was so good to see Claire again and I'm dying to see your avatar photo in larger form! That one should be framed I think!

Lou - everything ok today hun? Always forget which days you're at work, but I have a feeling you're home Thurs/Fri. How's Maddi coping? Are you getting much sleep? Hugs to you both. :hugs:

bingo
20-07-2007, 15:02
Oh Hayley I can't get over how sick you are. I have my :fingerscrossed: that it will pass once you advance more in your pregnancy. It must be distressing for Cooper to see his mum throw up all the time. Did the doctor prescribe anything for you?
Well I'm still working on getting that pencil off the cupboards. I'm using a eraser to rub it off and its taking ages. Plus i keep getting sidetracked.
Went to the dentist today to get a filling and a clean. I was trying out a new dentist and she was fantastic. No Pain which is a bonus and she was so gentle that I have already decided that Maddi will be seeing her when its time. I hate it when half your face is numb though. I felt like I had a fat lip and I had so much trouble talking. Never mind the fact I was dribbling all over myself.
Maddi fought her day sleep today. I took me having to lie down with her after several screaming matches in her cot. I just didn't want her to not have a sleep as she gets so angry and unsettled at night if she doesn't have a sleep.
We had Maddi's first parent-teacher night last night :D . Basically Maddi is doing really well and is developing as she should be. Which we pretty much knew but it was nice to have some formal confirmation. They assess things like speech, cognitive functions and social interaction.
I made it to the target toy sale which was ridiculous to say the least. I bought Maddi a Mr and Mrs Potato head and a box of fake food. She has this piece of plastic fake chicken that she is forever walking around with and pretending to eat and feed her dolls. So I thought the least I could do is expand her food groups for all of $9. I also bought her 2 wiggles cd's as she actually doesn't own any music cds. There were people with trolleys full of stuff and I couldn't get over how much people were buying.
When we got home I set up the portable CD player in her room and put the wiggles on and Maddi was dancing and clapping like crazy. :o on me for not doing it sooner. She was forever turning the volume up to max and I was turning it down. The battle has started already!
Well I best get off me bot' and attack the washing.

Moorish
20-07-2007, 15:13
Immy was all over me so I had to post so I didn't lose my message again!

Well here's some dribble from me. . .

Well I didn't get back on last night - I was so buggered. I think the next 3-4 years of my life will consist of me looking like a total zombie as there's no way I'm going to get naps in during the day - oh to have 2 kids again! Those days seemed all so easy! PMSL!

Yesterday Shane and I did the Target toy sale and I must say it was quite a disappointment but we managed to get a few things and get out of there. Then Shane went to lunch with some work mates for an end-of-financial-year-do and left me in town with 3 kids. I was going to meet Kristy (threesweetpeas) for a coffee but things didn't work out so I went to visit my friend Gail (Cody'smummy & fellow Hobart due-in-july-er) in hospital. She had her little girl on the 16th and was really bored in hospital! She ended up in the same birthing room as me!
Shane came and picked us up and we went to get Nicola from Grasshoppers and introduce Alex to the ladies there - he didn't last long in my arms before being taken away for cuddles!
When Shane picked me up he had this MASSIVE bunch of lillies for me from my favourite florist (who all know him by first name now! :D) which was just so lovely! I was curious though because he only gave me flowers a couple of weeks ago. His reason? He was just thinking how nice I looked that morning and he knew how much I loved the lillies in the last bunch! LOL! I can't wait for them to all open up - I'll take a photo when they do - my kitchen will smell sooo nice!

Well I've been trying really hard to watch what I'm eating and apart from a few chockies from hospital I've been doing ok. Unfortunately the small amount of chocolate that I HAVE eaten has caused a big reaction (I have a slight allergy to chocolate & orange juice) and now I'm really itchy all over my forehead, head, back of the neck & under my chin & neck & across my chest. I break out in a fine rash but it's a small sacrifice really since I've been deprived of the lush treat for 9 months! I will give it up again as soon as it's all gone from the house (DH is on strict instructions to eat it as fast as he can!)

As for the weight, I've been weighing myself every morning and this morning I'm within 1kg of my weight when I left weight watchers at about 4 weeks pregnant! :smiliedance: Still means I'm big and I have a long way to go, but I think Shane's noticing the loss & he's been a lot more affectionate lately (also he has a non-pregnant wife now!!) But although I said to him today - yes dear, I can't wait either (;) :D) - it's going to be a while until "it" happens again which he understands (but still gets me all upset again). Seriously considering having this operation to fix all the pelvic muscles but there's still 4 weeks until my 6 week check up, although I can almost guarantee that things won't be back to normal - I can already tell that my pelvic floor is shot and I won't be able to fix it no matter how many exercises I do.

Oh, something I forgot to mention a while ago. I was talking to a midwife while I was in hospital who has twin boys. I just asked her about circumcision and if she knew where to get info on it from. She said that basically there's only 1 Dr in the whole of Tas that still does it and he only does it for his own patients. Anyway, turns out that this Dr is MY OB!!! Now it makes the decision even harder because we know that the option is there, but we're going to go together to my 6 week check up and get some information. Don't get me wrong - we're both completely on the fence in relation to the matter.

On another note before I sign off (and help myself to a donut that Shane bought home from the shops today!) Nicola's 4th birthday is in 2 weeks time and we're stumped as to what to do for her. I don't want a "no birthday" thing because hers have always been a little quiet. Anyway, I really don't feel like doing anything at home, so I thought just invite a few close friends & take them bowling (the girls LOVE bowling), but other than that I'm stumped for ideas. Weather will be cr@p so anything outdoors is out of the question. Any ideas welcome!

Ok I'm off to go wake a baby for a feed & then start dinner. Sorry again for all my dribble, heaps on my sleep-deprived mind at the moment.
xoxo

MrsMiggins
20-07-2007, 15:15
Oooooh! It's pencil!! I thought it was crayon - much easier to clean!! Pencil would be a bugger to get off! Have you got one of those magic eraser block things? Do you know the ones I mean? I reckon they'd work. I saw them in BigW the other day for about $4-5. I was considering getting one knowing how much Claire loves to "display" her own artwork!!

Hayles, OMG! You poor thing!! I can't even imagine being that sick!! I hope it passes in a few weeks for you (or better yet - even earlier!!)

Anna, we were all set to hook up to broadband, but even though it's available where we live, there are only a limited number actually available. So say for instance there are 20 allocated to our street, they are all taken by other residents at the moment. We have to wait until one becomes available.

I have news (don't get excited, it's nothing interesting!!) but I'll have to come back to post. Claire is sitting on my lap being noisy & I don't want her to wake Owen up!

cath
21-07-2007, 11:18
Hi again,
I can't quite believe I have so much time on my hands but I do -Dean is out at the shops with Paddy,Will is asleep and I am refusing to do housework (and Dean really has got it pretty much all under control) so I have nothing better to do than get on here and chat away.

Fi what's your news? How bloody annoying about the broadband situation.

Anna that's one romantic husband you have - I love flowers but they are pretty rare to appear around here (and incredibly rare as spur of the moment things) -hang onto that man. I shouldn't complain though. On my second day in hospital Dean appeared with a present for me - a new leather wallet (my old one was falling apart) and a beautiful card that thanked me for allowing our son "to take up real estate in my belly and then be cut out" -romantic words hey (I actually really liked what he wrote - it was cute). I think the bowling idea for Nicola's birthday sounds great -go with that. You poor thing with the bloody prolapse -nasty. Who would be a woman -it is so unfair! Good work with the weight loss and getting into old pants!! I have amazingly lost weight too and am now strangely lighter than I was at 7 weeks pregnant -how cool!! Won't take long to pile back on though if I'm not careful. With Dean being on his new diet (he is doing really well and has been out for a walk most days too) we will be trying very hard not to have junk in the house which should help us both (we both have no self control).

Lou well done getting to the dentist. It is on my list of things to do too. I had plans to go but then found out I was pregnant and didn't want to go while pregnant so am now going to try and make the time again. How cute about Maddi's parent-teacher night -so grown up! People go nuts at those sales don't they. My Mum went to get a few things and was amazed at the people out there pushing around 2 trolleys full of stuff -hilarious. The fake food sounds cool and good to hear Maddi liked her new CD.

Hayley I really hope your MS is a first trimester thing. Only a few more weeks to go (I know every day probably feels like forever right now) - poor girl. That must be one healthy bubba you have growing in there.

Anyway I should be off and try and get a few things sorted here. We have visitors this afternoon and tomorrow (not too many though -it has all been pretty calm around here) and my parents are bringing us over roast lamb for dinner tonight (Mum is cooking it at home than transporting it over - what a legend!). Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

ETA: Today's photos of my boys (I am obviously bored):

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4184.jpg (Will is slowly looking less yellow which is nice)

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4186.jpg (Paddy has this bizarre thing for sitting in the washing basket)

Moorish
21-07-2007, 13:12
Cath - what gorgeous photos! I've never seen Paddy without a gigantic smile on his face - he always looks so happy! Will has that typical newborn look on his face that Alex also displays, he's also still just as yellow looking as Will too! My CHN said that the jaundice fades from the feet up and that the face is the last to clear so if you're ever worried that he's not getting better then look at his tummy and see if that's any clearer.
That's very sweet what Dean wrote you! It's in his own words and something to be treasured. I was just telling DH today that his parents never even congratulated me when they came to visit. His dad was proud (I could tell) and gave me a big kiss and cuddle and told me well done (which for a quiet spoken man was big for him), but his mum walked in the room and plonked a huge pumpkin patch bag full of clothes in front of me and told me to open it before she'd even seen the baby! :eek: Anyway, Shane was quite surprised.
One thing that bothers me though is that Shane hasn't actually spoken to me at all about giving birth or giving him a son. Sure he's been a lot more affectionate & he just loves to buy flowers when it's least expected, but it'd just be so nice to hear from him that he was proud of me, or that I handled labour really well - especially coz I was so sh!t scared to go through it all again. It's not really something I know how to bring up with him though, I KNOW he's proud, but I don't want him to be like his parents and not be able to express it.

Anyway . . .

That's good news Cath that you've lost weight too! Must be all this running around after toddlers doing it! Will you & Dean be exercising together once summer hits? We try to go for family walks together when we can (obviously not in the heart of winter though!) We go to the beach, the bike path, the waterfront - anywhere where it's safe for the kids to run ahead. I was telling Shane that it'd be great to get back into that habit - Immy could go in the papoose back pack & I could take Alex in the front pack or push the pram (bit of extra resistance won't hurt!) The kids love it and although it's no fast pace, any exercise is better than none. Shane and I are also terrible and have no self control either! :laughing: However, I'm sitting here eating cheese & tomato on salada bikkies for "lunch" and he's drinking coke & eating M&M's! PMSL! :D (Ok so I'm drinking coke too but Shane promised to go get some coke zero for me tomorrow!)

Better get going. Alex is feeding quicker now which is good and I seem to have a good routine happening so while he's napping next to me in his rocker I'm starting to list some of the left over girls clothes on oztion (SO much cheaper than ebay!) I sorted all the stuff again when I got home from hospital & I took 2 bags of clothes into a lady who's daughter was born over 8 weeks early and was in the special care nursery (where Alex was under lights). Her baby was just SOOOOO teeny tiny and won't fit half the stuff for AGES but I thought she'd appreciate not having to buy too much stuff only to have it not fit etc.

So quiet in here today - everyone must be out enjoying some nice weather - it's cold here but the sun is out and the kids have all had a play outside (all completely rugged up like eskimo's!)
Talk soon!
xoxo

hayleylea
21-07-2007, 14:20
Hey guys

Im sorry to scare you all with my horrific all day sickness stories!!! It is truly horrible though and i wouldnt wish it apon anyone!! I am going to write a few things down here just to get them off my chest and then ill give the whole thing a rest for awhile. Hopefully writing this stuff down will give me some relief....Heres Hoping...

After being so sick with Cooper I was always scared of getting pregnant again. I hoped and prayed that I would be spared of the ALL day sickness thing and thought at first i was spared...but obviously i wasnt. With Cooper it was worse. I was throwing up all the time...but it was also alot easier to deal with because I didnt have a toddler who relied on me. This time around Im finding it so hard to be happy about the pregnancy :crying: I feel horrible for saying that because I am happy but its just so draining to feel like this 24/7. I dont so much feel sorry for myself but feel sorry for Cooper. He has been an angel and so good but i just feel like Im not devoting enough of my time to him...which is not my fault obviously because I physically cant but it makes me so upset. He gives me hugs and we spend time reading books...he loves my mum so being at her house is just a great big holiday and he is having a ball but sometimes i think that he is going to hate me because I cant play with him and do all the fun stuff we did before i got pregnant iykwim. I wake up every morning hoping that i feel OK and each morning i wake up sick, ive forgotten what it feels like to feel "normal". I know i probably sound like im the biggest sook and whinger on earth, im usually pretty good with dealing with stuff like this and being sick but this is just totally different. I just dont want to get up in the morning, of course then i think about Cooper and that makes me want to get out of bed but this feeling is driving me nuts!!!! You know I think im OK for a second then stand up and then have to make a run to my bucket.

As for the doctor. I went to him and asked what he could do...and he gave me maxalon. Which I dont believe works that great. I think it takes a bit of the throwing up away (not all of it though!) but it doesnt take away the constant sick feeling. I asked about the vitamin B6 injections but i have to go to him or the hospital 2-3 times a day to get them which just isnt going to happen.

I think it was Lou who said it would be distressing for Cooper seeing me throw up all the time...actually he has been really good. Of course i try to not do it infront of him...but obviously sometimes i cant help it. But he is really none the wiser and doesnt seem to bother him at all. It breaks my heart though when i do do it infront of him..but usually my mum isnt far away to come and keep him occupied.

As you guys can tell im pretty down right now. I have all these things going through my head - wondering when its going to stop...hoping it WILL stop. Wondering if all this is affecting Cooper...wondering if me not spending as much time with him will hurt our relationship. In all honestly I KNOW that Cooper loves me and nothing will change our relationship but these stupid thoughts just run through my mind - i guess feeling like **** all the time puts **** in your head.

Then of course there is me missing Trent. He came and Got cooper and I today so we are home spending some time with him...but its hard not being with him all the time and only talking to him on the phone. You know when you just need your partner there to give you a cuddle? Well in the middle of the night (which is usually my worst time) I feel so alone and just want him there with me.

Anyway guys I hope you dont mind me writing all this down. It has helped me get things out..(even if i did rave on with complete cr@p). I will be OK...i KNOW ill get through it, i just have to take it one day at a time. I promise from now on ill try and keep away the bad thoughts and get back to my positive self!!

Cath and Anna - great work with the weight loss! Cath i tried looking at nyour photos but my computer is chucking a mental at the moment!

Anyway gotta go have a shower...

talk soon guys. I really hope you dont mind me posting my little heart out here!

MrsMiggins
21-07-2007, 16:56
OMG Hayley! Of course we don't mind!!! :hugs: You poor thing! I knew it must be hard for you, but reading what you've just posted makes me understand more clearly just how difficult it is for you - not only physically, but emotionally too. I know what you are saying, worrying about how it is affecting Cooper. I have felt the same way about Claire since Owen was born. I simply cannot spend the same amount of one-on-one time with her as I used to and I kind of blame myself for a lot of her behavioural problems ATM (not that it's all that bad, but she does have a lot of naughty moments!). But honestly Hayles, when you really think about it, it can't be damaging them that much. If anything, it's teaching them that even though you can't be there all the time, you do still love them, and you are there for them. I guess it's a part of them growing up. Cooper knows you love him, and he obviously adores you. When you're feeling a bit down and that things are getting on top of you, try to look ahead to when your two bubs are a bit older & can interract together. That's what I do. It is not easy. But the ms is not permanent and you will feel back to normal one day. Try to focus on then. (Please don't think I'm being heartless! I'm just trying to let you know that sometimes I find it easier to focus on the light at the end of the tunnel, IYKWIM?)

I am so, so sorry you are feeling so down right now! These are the times when it is difficult being online buddies. I'd really love to come over & let Cooper & Claire have a play & just sit down & share a cuppa with you. (I'd even hold your hair back for you if it became necessary! :D)

Chin up you wonderful woman!!

Cath, what gorgeous, gorgeous pics!!! Will looks so big!! Do you guys think he looks more like you or Dean? I can definitely see you in him! :yes:

Cath & Anna, I can't believe you guys have already started shifting the weight!! You are both amazing!! And inspiring! I still have an enormous belly, which really depresses me at times. I've been losing a bit of weight (about 2kgs a month or there abouts), but not as much as I'd like. I'm afraid winter is very much about comfort food for me. I find it too hard to lose weight in winter!

Speaking of food, I'd better go start dinner while I can!

hayleylea
21-07-2007, 17:43
Thanks Fi for your post. And no i didnt think you were being heartless!!! I am trying to look at the light at the end of the tunnel just my vision is a little clouded right now! ill get there..i know that! Ive lost 3 kilos in 2 weeks, anyone else would be cheering...but i cant help but feel bad about it, which is stupid because there is nothing i can do about it!

Anyway enough about me :hugs: to you about Claire aswell. I can see where you are coming from there and I know ill probably come to that road too once number 2 is born. Which is what makes me so cranky about being so sick because i want to enjoy this one on one time with Cooper. GRRR there I go again talking about ME ME ME! Sorry guys! Oh Fi thanks for the offer about holding my hair back too - you made me laugh!! lol.

Anyway im buggered. Im going to go force something into my gob so i can put something in my tummy.

Hope everyone else is doing good! :D

MrsMiggins
21-07-2007, 17:51
Hayles!! You're allowed to talk about you!! Hell, if you wanna do nothing but pity posts for the next (however long this blasted ms lasts!!) then that is perfectly understandable & AOK with me!

Moorish
21-07-2007, 19:13
Oh Hayles - if you can't post here about how you're feeling then where the hell else can you post?!!
Of course we're always here for you and never feel bad about pity posts! Hell, I wrote my fair share during the end of my pregnancy!!

I'm so so sorry that you're going through all this again. I'm glad the Dr has prescribed you something - even if it's only taking the smallest edge off, at least it's something. Hun just watch that weight loss because from memory you're not a big girl anyway so you don't want to lose too much or you'll lose a lot of energy too (as if puking doesn't take it out of you anyway). If things get really bad, you can be admitted to hospital and put on a drip to get some good stuff back in your body. Just make sure you keep your Dr updated with how you're going.

I'm so glad that you're being taken care of by your mum. I really don't know what you're going through physically but I can imagine how bad it must be and I can definately sympathise for you. Like Fi said - trying to focus on the light at the end of it all - although harder to do than say - will help you through it. Same as when you're in labour. With each contraction I tried not to focus so much on the pain I was going through, but instead it was one more contraction over and done with and one closer to meeting my bubba blue - it really did give me power to go through the next contraction.

Trent must be feeling so bad that he can't be there for you all the time but I'm sure that very soon you'll all be together again under the same roof, and for the moment he's working hard and doing the best he can. You guys must miss each other so much.

Oh and don't worry too much about Cooper. I guess a good thing about his age is that he understands enough to know that mummy is unwell and shows that he loves you by giving you lots of cuddles, but on the other hand - his level of understanding isn't so great that he thinks that you're neglecting him or anything. So don't worry so much - he sounds very happy and just try giving him 5-10 minute blocks of your attention when you feel up to it - I promise you he won't be negatively affected by all of this at all.

Hugs to you darl :hugs: I so wish I could help you in some way. If I lived near you then Cooper would be most welcome to join my clan for a day here and there - he'd just love being in the company of 3 beautiful Moore girls! :D Rest up hun, there is an end to all this and I'm hoping and praying for you that it's much much sooner rather than later.
xoxo

bingo
21-07-2007, 20:24
Oh Hayley you poor thing. I'm glad that you posted your thoughts on here and shared with us your feelings and fears as it really shows how close we all are to be able to reveal our innermost thoughts. When I was pregs with Maddi I was sick from week 6 to week 16 and that felt like the longest time in the world. I would come home from work and walk in the front door and straight to my friend the toilet bowl for a welcoming hug. Like you the thoughts of revisiting morning sickness scares me and its there in the back of my mind. But I didn't have it anywhere as bad as you so I think you are a very brave woman for facing it yet another time. How annoying that there just isn't that magic pill to take that cures morning sickness. It must be the same pill that will fix period pain. I mean they can come up with cures for other illnesses - c'mon medical science.
Cooper is a tough boy who loves his mummy very much. And he will love his new baby sibling so much when they arrive too. Someone to boss around and to help gang up on Mum and Dad when they want that new swimming pool or trip to the Gold coast. When you see the two of them playing together you'll start thinking - hey what about another? The thoughts of MS behind you and a distant memory.
When I had gastro and threw up in front of Maddi she freaked out. Probably more from the noise I was making as I am not the quietest of vomiters (sorry if TMI).
One of my best friends is pregnant with her third. She has 2 little boys under 5. When she was preg with her second she was in the toilet bowl quite a lot and her son would hold her hair back for her and pat her on the back and say I love you mummy please feel better. He was three at the time. He loves his little brother and is once again holding back his mums hair while she speaks to the porcelain bus. I can just imagine Maddi will be taking the opportunity to draw all over the walls while I'm throwing up in the toilet. No hair holding for me :D .
On a serious note Hayley, I hope that you keep sharing your fears and thoughts with us as time progresses. Its important that you have an outlet and that we can help support you during this tough time. God knows I've had my fair share of blurting and complaining. If only we could teleport to each other to help out.
Big :hugs: Hayley.

MrsMiggins
21-07-2007, 21:45
I can just imagine Maddi will be taking the opportunity to draw all over the walls while I'm throwing up in the toilet. No hair holding for me
OMG!! PMSL!!! :laughing: I can just picture it, Lou!!

Hayles, you never know your luck. Even if you did have a third (and I may be totally jumping the gun there anyway!!) you may sail through it without so much as a hint of queasiness. Every pregnancy is different. My mum had nothing at all with my brother & me but was violently ill for several months with my younger brother. That was right at the time we were moving to the US! My poor mum! I vividly remember her being so sick on the flight over, and then sitting on the front step of our house the day we arrived looking very pale. There had been a stuff-up with the keys & my dad had to drive an hour & a half back to the real estate agent, then all the way back again. The whole time my mum just sat on the step, trying her hardest not to puke everywhere while my brother & I ran around (we were only 5 & 6 at the time). So ya never know!!

I am such a dead-head!! I totally forgot to fill you guys in on my news! Like I said, no need to get excited, it's really not all that interesting, but it's news none the less.

I can't remember if I mentioned a couple of months back when we signed our new lease that we thought the owners may be considering moving back, as we went from a 12-month to a 6-month lease? Well, our current lease runs out the week before Xmas. Talk about bad timing!!

The other day we got a call from the real estate agent saying that the owners had been in touch with them & apparently they had a job offer back down here & wanted to move back on Sept 24th!! Because we have a lease, we don't have to move, but we're not all that happy with the fact that they put our rent up from $400/wk to $430/wk. So the good thing about it is that we can get out early. The BAD, BAD, BAD thing is that we are going to have to move :(. I honestly can't tell you guys how much I hate moving!!! I absolutely detest it with every fibre of my being!!! We have moved so many times & each time I hope it'll be our last until we're able to buy something of our own (ie: when we're about 95!) But it never seems to work out that way.

We've been looking around & we can probably find something a bit cheaper with a nicer house & still on a small acreage, but we're going to have to move towards the mountains or even further inland. I dont really want to, but I don't think we're going to have much choice. I hate the fact that we're going to be moving away from my parents (:eek: tell me 5 or 10 years ago I'd be saying that now & I'd never have believed you!! :laughing:) because it's just so good having them only 10 mins away. They love being near the kids & the kids love them too! And we have everything so close by here - shops, parks, beaches, playgroups etc. etc. If we end up where I think we are likely to, everything is going to be a good half hour drive, at the least!

Anyhooo... that's it in a nutshell. I'll keep you posted on what's happening!

bingo
22-07-2007, 08:02
Fi I was wondering what your news was! When anyone says the "M" word I cringe. I detest moving, especially now as we have accumulated so much stuff. Honestly we have enough stuff to supply the world two times over (okay maybe I'm getting overexcited). Last time we moved even the removalists were amazed at how much **** we collected. And we lived in a tiny 2.5 bedroom house that hid the stuff really well. I guess the upside is that you might find something way better than where you are? What area would you love to live in? Maybe I can spend some time on the internet looking for you? I love house hunting when its not for me. When you need some help moving give me a hoy and I'll come up for a week. I need an excuse to get out of here for a holiday. :laughing: .
Cath and Anna, when I read about your booby juice stories all the breastfeeding memories come flooding back. I am still totally amazed that I was able to do it for 8 months. I think mostly because I never imagined I'd be able to as I had such small boobs. :laughing: A womans body is amazing isn't it and they are capable of such phenomanal things. Anna I so remember when you were fearing labor and look how you went!I'd say Shane just takes it for granted you know that he is proud of you and is just so thankful for giving him another child. He's probably scared he'll open the floodgates and cry with pride if he utters a word of thanks. I'm sure he would be mortified to think you don't know how much he worships you for having another bubby. Are you seriously thinking of having another? How amazing is that!
Well I'd better go. My Dad is heading back home today. It will be strange not having him here with us. He's been here for 3 weeks now and Maddi loves having him here. I think she is going to really act up when he leaves today.

hayleylea
22-07-2007, 08:08
AWWWW thanks guys!!! :hugs: Thank you all for all your kind thoughts and words of wisdom. It means more to me then you will ever know. I feel much better being able to write everything down here and get support from you guys. I have support from everyone here...but none of my friends have babies so they dont understand at all...which is hard. So you guys are my rock at the moment (without putting too much pressure on yas lol)

Anna - Luckily i put on a couple of kilos before falling pregnant so im not too worried about the weight at this stage...mind you I WILL be keeping an eye on it. The doctor is aware of it and isnt overly worried right now. I lost around 6 from memory with Cooper in the first few months. i am exhausted though..yesterday i didnt get out of bed till 9 and i was back in bed at 10.30 and didnt wake till 12.30 - it sucks!

As for a third pregnancy at the moment that thought is far from my mind - Anna im totally different to you, labour didnt and still doesnt worry me. I actually enjoyed that part the most about my pregnancy :laughing: :o But I know that there may be a chance of me changing my mind but at the moment its a NO NO NO! :hair:

Lou - Hopefully you dont get MS next time around. Im a pretty loud thrower-upper too - Cooper isnt bothered by it at all...infact at mums the other day he got a bucket from mums laundry and come inside with the biggest grin on his face and sat it on my tummy for me! lol. He thought he was doing a good deed and was so proud of himself. Im glad it doesnt bother him because that would only hurt me more then im already hurting. As for your friends boy holding her hair back. Cooper would probably do that if i asked him but i dont think it would be too gentle lol.

Fi - You poor thing about your house!!!!!!! Thats no good at all....I guess you have no options at the moment though. Heres hoping you find a fantastic house that you can live in for ever and ever and eventually buy!! (and thats not too far away from your parents!)

OK guys Im off to have a shower and pep myself up for the day.

Thanks again for your posts...means alot girls!

bingo
22-07-2007, 08:17
Last night I was chopping carrots for dinner when I got distracted and sliced the top of my finger. I honestly thought I had chopped it right off so was too scared to look. I just wrapped it in a teatowel and got my Dad to look for me. Just a decent cut was all in the end. We stuck a bandaid on it and its fine. Maddi points to it and says "sore" and I say yes it is and then she grabs it and squeezes it and I yelp and she laughs this evil little laugh and wants to do it all again.

hayleylea
22-07-2007, 08:24
Last night I was chopping carrots for dinner when I got distracted and sliced the top of my finger. I honestly thought I had chopped it right off so was too scared to look. I just wrapped it in a teatowel and got my Dad to look for me. Just a decent cut was all in the end. We stuck a bandaid on it and its fine. Maddi points to it and says "sore" and I say yes it is and then she grabs it and squeezes it and I yelp and she laughs this evil little laugh and wants to do it all again.

Oh I ove hearing stories about Maddi!! She is sucha little :devil6: isnt she!!! Glad your finger is alright Lou! Hows your grandma going?? forgive me if you have already posted that in the last few weeks!

MrsMiggins
22-07-2007, 10:44
OMG Lou! Don't even joke about that!! :laughing: I may surprise you and take you up on that offer to help move! lol You know, I doubt it'd be much of a holiday for you!! We're basically looking for anywhere on the Sunshine Coast. Either 4 bdrm or 3 + office. At least 1 acre, 2 bathrooms. Must allow pets.

We've been looking on real estate.com, but haven't come across anything very exciting so far.

:( I bet you are going to miss your dad when he leaves. And I bet Maddi will miss him too. I hope she goes OK when he leaves & doesn't play up for you.

OUCH!!! Just read about your finger!!! You poor thing!!! Claire has an odd fascination with my sores too. I cut my leg shaving the other day and Claire kept trying to pick at it! When I told her I cut my leg, she kept trying to jab at it & said over & over for half the day "Cut your leg! Cut your leg!" :rolleyes:

Hayles, if you're after some spare kilos, I have several going free to a good home! :D

cath
22-07-2007, 11:33
Hi again,
Oh Hayley I feel so bad for you. You are totally allowed to be self-obsessed when you are feeling so rotten and I am glad you are able to share your feelings with us -writing them down helps sometimes. I can only imagine how all consuming it is to feel so sick all the time. I felt nausesous for 24 hours in the first trimester but it was mild compared to what you're going through and I was miserable enough -you are allowed to wallow in it. As the others say Cooper will be fine and will not even remember this time and he has lots of other people around him who love him too and can give him that extra attention right now. You need to focus on yourself as much as possible right now -I really hope this time passes quickly for you. I am thinking of you.

Fi how horrible that you have to pack up and move - what a job! What a right pain. Best of luck finding something suitable - hopefully something perfect will come up and will make the whole thing seem exciting. It would be so nice if you could stay near your parents - they can be very helpful sometimes can't they.

Lou how sad your Dad is heading back home again. That is so lovely that he can spend such quality time with you all. How are Maddi's ears going? Not good about slicing your finger -scary stuff. Hope it is okay.

Anna it sounds like Shane is speaking in gestures like the flowers. I would say that he is proud as punch of what you went through and that you did so well. Hopefully he will tell you that one day soon -sometimes you just need to be having the right conversation which can take a while to come up. Dean and I took about 6 months to have a proper conversation about my labour with Paddy and for me to tell him that I was disappointed in him and for him to tell me that he felt guilty (he eat a donut and read the paper while I was in labour which was no help at all let me tell you -not totally his fault- he didn't realise it was actually happening - that whole labour was a bit of a debacle really). His Mum sounds a bit bizarre with her bag of presents bieng more important than seeing Alex -Dean's Mum does weird stuff like that sometimes too. The family walks sound great and are definitely in our plans for when summer hits. I am going a bit nuts on coke at the moment too -need my caffeine hit by about 5pm every day and coke is much more satisfying than coffee for some reason. How lovely are you giving all those clothes to the woman in hospital - you are so generous.


Dean is out shopping with Paddy again and my brother and SIL have just returned our dog Ruby from being washed (she is a dog groomer which is handy). Oh yeah - didn't tell you our dog news. We are now a one dog family instead of two which I am loving. Our dog Ollie has gone to a new home since the day I came home from hospital and out life is so much better. Ollie used to be my baby but since having Paddy he has driven me mad. He was spending all day standing at the glass doors barking every time he saw Paddy and it was driving me nuts. We also couldn't play outside because both the dogs would knock Paddy over and there was dog poo everywhere. The weekend before I had Will Dean and I had a serious discussion about the dogs and Dean conceded it wasn't working and agreed to give them away. My brother and SIL love Ollie and already have another Staffy and were happy to see if the 2 dogs would get along and they could live with both so Ollie went to their place for a weeks trail a week ago and has passed so now he has a new home (which Dean is happy with because he is still in the family and they only live 5 minutes away so we can still visit him easily). Our other dog Ruby has amazingly totally calmed down since Ollie has gone and Paddy can now wander around outside and Ruby pretty much ignores him which is great. Dean has been walking her most days and we are going to block off the side path so she can have a "run" to be locked in if I have mothers group here or anything and want her away from the kids. We can now have Paddy's 2nd birthday party here without worrying about the dogs and can build a sandpit at summer time and finally start using our back yard -I am so much happier with the situation. I would actually happily get rid of Ruby too (Dean's Mum knows someone who would probably take her) but Dean really wants to have a dog and I have to compromise -we have got rid of the main problem -Ruby doesn't bark like that crazy Ollie. Life is much calmer and quieter around here and I am loving it.

Anyway almost time to start poking the baby awake. Hope everyone is well and Hayley feel free to get on here and whinge away as much as you need to. We are here for you.

bingo
22-07-2007, 14:25
:laughing: Fi, I'll be there!
Cath thats great you found a new home for Ollie. Sounds like you had your hands full with two dogs. I bet Ruby is thinking "I'll be good - please don't send me away!".
Hayley, I haven't posted about my grandma in ages so you haven't missed anything there. She is still hanging in there. My mum rushed back to Malaysia and has been nursing her really well. Its really hard to tell how she is doing as one day she is doing really well and the next she is on deaths door. Its really hard on my mum as she has no idea how long her mum has.
Well we said Bye to FaFa and Maddi was all sad and so was I and so was dad. I think out of all of us Dad is going to suffer the most. He really enjoyed his time here. To help us get over the goodbye's we headed to the Australian Sheep Show which is in town. Maddi had a blast in the petting zoo. I took some video with my phone and I've attempted to upload it to photobucket. Check it out and let me know if it works or not?
I am getting a waft of "Nappy Full" and I should go and change her. DH is out feeding a friends dog as they are away in NZ. He always manages to get out of changing her pooey nappies.

bingo
22-07-2007, 14:26
OMG my brain has left me, here's the video link
Maddi at the petting zoo (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=526a12b6.flv)
and another one! (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=6d4e83a9.flv)

Katcha
22-07-2007, 14:38
Hayley sorry your all day sickness doesn't seem to be going away yet. Must be awful for you. :hugs: Hope it goes away soon.

Cath, yep the hair colour came out of Katelyn's hair very easily. As soon as we poured water over her head all this blue colour came dribbling down her face!.
Good to hear your getting more sleep now. Oh & cute photos. Love the of of Paddy in the washing basket. :)

Anna, yep, we sure did take Katelyn out with her crazy hair! She got quite a lot of smiles from people & one of the cleaners there who we see quite a bit came over & had a chat & asked if we'd taken piccies of her. Of course we had!
Oh, that's so sweet Shane getting you flowers out of the blue. Can't imaging James doing that for me!

Lou, that's cute Maddi trying to feed her dolls fake food. Katelyn does the same thing to her stuffed dog....except with real food.....also tries to give him her bottle once she's had enough.....we've tried to tell her that dogs don't like milk, but she doesn't believe us!

Fi, that's a pain that you're going to have to move. I only really done one move from house to house, & I hated it! LOL there are still a couple of boxes in the garage that haven't been opened since the move...which was nearly 5 years ago!!

Well, we had a good day yesterday. There was an SA Great function in Perth for us ex-pat South Aussies.......there was an endless supply of Farmers Union Iced coffee & Fruchocs...which aren't available over here. They also gave us other things we can't get in Perth like Balfours frog cakes......mmmmm 2 of them sitting in my fridge right now.....soon will only be one! :devil6: And a packet of yo-yo biscuits each......

Oh no, someone's woken I gotta go now!

Moorish
22-07-2007, 15:22
Wow where did today go??

I had grand plans this morning and none of them got done. All 3 girls have had colds for the last 2 weeks now but Immy hasn't been able to shake hers and for the last few days has had continuous green snot plastered everywhere. :barf: So this morning I decided that I'd take her to the after hours Dr as I knew full well that I'd never get her in tomorrow to the clinic. I got there at about 11:45 and was told that there was about an hours wait so Immy, Alex and I walked up to KFC and sat and had lunch. We then dawdled around for another 15 mins or so before making our way back to the Drs office. We waited and waited - Immy was an angel and Alex refused to wake for a feed so I only got a bit into him (and he's STILL sleeping!) Dr said she has an upper respiritory infection & prescribed antibiotics for her - fingers crossed she's not allergic to these too (there's about a 5-10% chance she will be). It was 3:30 by the time we got home so there was no chance of doing all the other things I'd wanted to do so now it has to be left for another day.

Fi - we spoke about your move the other day. I really, really hope you find something on the sunshine coast that's suitable. Can you get your name down at some of the real estate places so you have first pick of anything that comes up? Also, would you consider renting privately or is it too risky? I'd be up there in a heart beat as well but not helping pack (hate it too!) but I'll look after the kids!

Lou - you pregnant?? Classic signs of preggy brain forgetfulness! Cute video clips - can't really see too well but I'm assuming that's Tony with Maddi too? How sad about FaFa going away. Even Immy understood when we said goodbye to YaYa the other day and she's gone for 3 months! The girls are counting down the 90 days! How cruel it is that your grandmother is going through what she is. How can life be so unfair? It sounds like torture really that one day she's well and has hope, then the next day she's so close to leaving. :gloomy: I hope your mum is coping ok and I really think she needs to give her siblings a swift kick up the you-know-what to get them to relieve her at least for a little while.

Cath - you're right - Shane does speak in gestures. There's a really good book called "The Five Love Languages" by Gary Chapman, it's a Christian book but it's widely read and helps couples determine what "language" of love they speak in their relationship. (Words of affirmation, quality time, receiving gifts, acts of service & physical touch). Anyway this language has changed for us over time depending on where we've been at but at the moment it's easy to see how Shane shows his love. I know he's proud, like you said though - it might just take some time to have that conversation about it all - maybe he's still really just coming to terms with it all but I also thing that men do take advantage of us being able to do such an incredible thing! LOL! I too am a bit disappointed with Shane during the last labour. He literally sat on a chair and watched tv the whole time until I needed him to hold the trolley I was leaning over so it didn't move - basically that was the last 10 mins. Even the midwife brought me juice and water while he sat there. It was the most inactive he's been in any of the 4 labours. At least during the others he was sitting by me holding my hand and telling me I could do it. Wow, brings tears to my eyes just thinking about how much he didn't do - like he was simply waiting for a cake I'd made to bake or something.:crying:
Ok enough of that. I'm sure I'll speak to him about it soon, I just don't want to be sooky and have tears but I fear it's going to happen.

Oh by the way, Immy has been such a little devil lately, testing us, disobeying us, running in the total opposite direction to where we want her & yelling and screaming as soon as she doesn't get her way. Little sh!t basically. I'd so had enough of it all by this morning (especially the yelling and screaming when the girls went near her) and I was dreading taking her out but she was perfect and I'm just hoping that it's all due to being unwell. She's perfect with Alex and is so gentle and loving and always wants "cubbles" with him. I'm just so sick of telling her to shut up when she doesn't get her way or when she wants something she can't have. Looks like the naughty spot will be making a come-back in this household all too soon . . . :rolleyes:

Well Shane's gone to the supermarket with Chelsea & Nicola, and Immy has gotten up from her non-nap. She fell asleep in the car but didn't go back to sleep in her cot - the girls were being to noisy. My let down is killing me - Alex just stirred, being spot on 4pm but has gone to sleep again so mummy is going to be cruel and wake him up - he needs milk and I need relief!

Hope you're all having a good day
xoxo

Moorish
22-07-2007, 15:29
Oh Renee - I have NO idea what those things are that they gave you to eat and drink but they sound DIVINE!!! All of a sudden I have a thing for sweet treats like lush cakes and lamingtons etc but I have to be so careful because although I'm breast feeding, I still need the weight to come off not on! :D

Moorish
22-07-2007, 15:38
Feeding Alex but I still have one free hand so I thought I'd drop these in for you all. I've been seriously slack with taking photos partly because Alex is just suck a little sleepy head - I'm sure that's bound to change though! :rolleyes:
Also he's still a little jaundice but getting better each day, today he looks quite good.

Anyway, here's me with my Hobart friend Gail when I visited her in hospital - and one of our babies together.

ANNA, GAIL & BABIES (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/julyphoto008edited.jpg)
ALEX & SHOPHIE (awww... cuddles!) (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/julyphoto011.jpg)
ALEX1 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Julykids050.jpg)
ALEX2 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/julyphoto039.jpg)

Wivi
22-07-2007, 16:28
Hi girls!,

I go away for a couple of days and you guys chat up a serious storm! I did manage to read your posts while I was away but didn't really get a chance to reply.

Well - aren't our new Mummy's doing well in here? Cath and Anna, you both sound like you are going great guns. Cath - I am really glad you are starting to get a little more sleep and that Dean has been so good on the domestic front. Anna that is great about the flowers - my DH is seriously backward in the romance department! As for Immy being an imp - Will was like that a bit when he was all stuffed up and it took a good few weeks to really clear up. Once it did - he turned into a little treasure once more. Still - it must be very trying for you with a new little one and the disrupted sleep that goes with it etc. Both Immy and Paddy sound as though they are adapting well to being the "big" sibling and it sounds all very beautiful.

Renee - Katelyn's hair was such a scream, she looked like she loved every minute of it too! I hope the MS stays away for you as well, especially as you are working.

Oh - I will apologise here for not having looked at Cath's, Anna's and Lou's photo/videos. We have a download issue that means it is better for me to download in the mornings so I will check them out tomorrow.

Lou - Maddi is such a scream. I always laugh at her antics. Little monkey squeezing your finger like that! I hope your Mum is coping well with caring for your grandma, that can be so draining sometimes. I also hope that Fa Fa, Maddi and you can all manage with Fa Fa going home! That sounded very sad.

Anna - the other week I reivented the naughty spot in this house too. I started telling Will when he was doing something he shouldn't that I would put him in the playpen without any toys. At the time I think he was turning the heater off. Anyway I stuck him in there for a couple of minutes and walked off. He wasn't very impressed and I had to do it twice but he got the hint! I've used it quite a bit lately. I tried the actual naughty corner but that just would not work as he thought it was a great big game no matter how I did it. This worked a whole lot better. He is still ok to go in it with some toys if I need him to as well. That's not often these days but if I need to have a shower or something then he can go in there and I know he is safe.

Fi - oh I feel for you and having to move! I hate moving too. I moved heaps as a Uni student and once I got married I was really over it. We moved here 4 years ago and I just hated it! I hope you can find something you like, in your price range and in a good area relatively quickly. I guess one bonus is you will get away from those crazy neighbours of yours!

Hayley - you poor thing with that MS. Cooper is such a great kid that you know he will be fine. I understand how you feel though because I felt really bad when I was unwell with the PND and wasn't "there" as much for Will as I thought I should be. I was always physically with him but other people had to help quite a bit for a little while. I can quite happily say though that Will is just fine and still loves his Mummy. Thank goodness for your Mum.

Hm - I think I might have caught up now.

We have been at my parent's farm for the weekend and had quite a lovely time. Mum and Dad agreed to mind Will for a few hours yesterday afternoon so that we could go out for lunch and just have some nice time together. That was really, really lovely as Troy has been so busy lately and we just had a really nice few hours together. Our meal was pretty ordinary but it was just so nice to spend some time together. The rest of the weekend was pretty cute with Will doing lots of "jobs" with my parents, like collecting eggs, chopping wood for the fire (he puts it in the wheelbarrow and then sits on top for a ride up to the house) and digging up potatoes. He went on a big walk with my Mum and did lots of running outside - all good healthy stuff! Of course he rode on the quad bike and the tractor too, but he is a bit scared of my Dad's big tractor - it is a bit noisy. We had a nice time but I just have to have 2 little whinges. Well - I hope they are little, I can't promise anything. The first one concerns food. My Mum is constantly trying to feed Will and ignoring us when we tell her to stop getting food out - especially things we don't want him to eat endlessly like biscuits and slices. Then she wonders when he doesn't eat other things. Oh and you know how all kids want to eat something just cause you are whether they ate 5 minutes ago or not? Well - she will give it to him - every time. It annoys both of us so much. The other thing really only annoyed me but I'll tell you anyway. The first night we were there Will was fantastic. Slept from 7 til 7:30am. Last night after a very big and exciting day he was crying at about 11pm. In retrospect I think I went in to him a bit soon because he started yeling out Daddy! at the top of his lungs when I went in there. Anyway we managed to calm him down after about 5 minutes and put him back into bed - but he had a bit of a whinge (like 1-2 minutes) about 30 minutes later and again another 30 minutes later and the third time I got up, gave him a drink of water and some medicine (not that I really thought he was sick, but he is getting some more teeth) and tucked him back in and then we heard nothing more til 8am this morning. I actually thought that wasn't too bad given in the past he has been known to cry a lot if he wakes up when we are staying somewhere else. I think he freaks out if he has a dream and wakes up and he is not in his own room or something). Anyway this morning my Mum gets up and makes out it was such a big deal and kept saying silly things like "I was going to get up to him, I don't like him crying like that". Oh - I was sooooooo annoyed. Seriously - he made little whinging noises for about 1 minute each time! In the end I said "I am glad you didn't, I would have been really annoyed if you had. He was fine Mum". I couldn't help it. She didn't like it very much. Honestly sometimes if you go in to Will when he does that you just make it 10 times worse because he starts yelling out "up!!!". I think it is a little bit like if we can't sleep and someone keeps coming in and talking to us -it is probably bloody annoying. We would just get up too! OK going to stop whinging now - we really did have a lovely weekend and really got to enjoy all Will's new words!

Oh - AF finally turned up today too. I am thinking about the Maybe Baby thing as an option. Have to see how pricey they are though.

Alright - this is a huge post from me - have to go and I'll chat more later.

Seeya!

Moorish
22-07-2007, 17:34
Great post Tan!
I really enjoyed reading about your weekend and I'm so happy you and Troy got some time to yourselves.
As for your mum and the food thing - I think it's just a right of passage for grandparents to feed the kids. Honeslty, you should have SEEN Immy when we got her home from my nans house while I was in hospital! She was SERIOUSLY like a blimp! Her tummy, face and legs were so swollen and it's still taking some time to all go away. It's all because nan fed her about 10 meals a day and THEN some! Because I wasn't there I had no control over it and we were just so sad when Immy came home because she really didn't look comfortable. She was fine though and is back to her normal eating habits (or actually she's off her food a bit because she's unwell - but that's probably a good thing!)

I did the same thing with Chelsea & the play pen too Tan. If I needed a shower or to hang some washing etc I just popped her in with some toys and she was still happy when I came back. Couldn't do it with 2 kids though.

As for the maybe baby - I bought mine from ebay - about 1/2 the price and you just give the microscope window a clean with some hot water (NO cleaning products as it affects the results) and you're good to go. If that's just too icky for you then I think they should be about $80 to buy new - check out chemist warehouse or somewhere like that. :thumbsup:

Ok some friends just left so I'd better go help finish dinner. Immy's cracking it because she didn't get a good sleep. :fingerscrossed: everyone that she doesn't have a reaction to these antibiotics - we'll see in the morning I guess!

bingo
22-07-2007, 21:12
Yum I just devoured a bowl of chocolate fondue with strawberries. I HAD to have it!
Tan, it sounds like you had a great time at the farm. Great to hear that you and Troy got to have a afternoon out by yourselves. Will had a ball too. His Grandparents sound like they spoil him very well. Lucky boy. I'd love to take Maddi to a farm for a weekend. She loves animals so much. Collecting eggs and riding tractors - even I'd love it!
Anna, Alex is so cute. Now tell me, in that last photo had Alex just had a feed? He just has that full and content look about him. The photo's of him with his girly friend are really cute, especially the one where it looks like she is cuddling him. I still think he looks a lot like his mummy. Anna have you thought of a new username yet?
This arvo I tried to teach Maddi about emotions and it ended up being a blast. I'd say "Happy" and burst out laughing, Maddi would copy my words and crack up laughing and slapping her thighs. We did sad, angry and scared. It was so much fun. In the end we both couldn't stop laughing. I couldn't get over how fast she picked it up.

MrsMiggins
22-07-2007, 21:24
Hi Tan!! Glad you guys had a nice time away. You know, I can't even remember the last time Dave & I had a meal (or any time at all really!) without the kids. That must've been frustrating with your parents going against your wishes all the time. I swear I think they do it to us sometimes just to get their own back!! :laughing: My parents never listen to me either. Frankly, I've given up! I figure Claire knows the difference between what she's allowed to do at grandma & grandpa's house & what she's allowed to do at home. I'm sure she knows she's being spoilt rotten there!

I'm sorry to hear AF showed her ugly face again. :(

I love your new avatar pic! I can't quite believe how big our babies are getting!! It honestly doesn't feel all that long ago we were talking about them rolling over for the first time, starting solids, crawling, walking... They'll be off to school before we know it! (:eek:)

I have to tell you guys about Claire's latest thing that had me in stitches!!

We were all in the lounge room after dinner tonight & were just reading books, playing with toys etc. At one point, I was lying on the floor and Claire walked up behind me, tapped me on the top of the head and said "Sit up now mummy." When I just chuckled & didn't move she started to push me up saying "Come on! Sit up!" I just had to do as I was told then!! :laughing:

She's also started doing this thing where she sighs & puts her hands on her hips when you tell her to do something, like she's getting weary of being told what to do!! It's quite hilarious actually! I'm sure she's going to be an actor one day!!

MrsMiggins
22-07-2007, 21:33
Oh Lou! We posted at the same time! :wave: That is sooo gorgeous about Maddi & her emotions!!! What a crack up!!! :laughing: Such a clever little girl!!

Anna! I missed your photos before!! Just had a look at them now. Alex is one helluva little cutiepie!!! He has about the same amount of hair as Owen! I agree with Lou about the last pic - he does look like he's just kickin' back relaxin' after a big feed!

Moorish
22-07-2007, 21:44
PMSL Lou! Sounds like you and Maddi had so much fun! I'll have to try that with Immy!
That last photo of Alex was just after a nappy change actually! Very content little boy I've got there! LOL!

As for the username - nup, I'm stumped! I had it all sorted at the beginning of the pregnancy as my one and only boys name I had was Connor (had it since Chelsea) but Shane decided that he'd gone off it (because it became really popular I think) so no more Chenicimocon :(.

Got any suggestions?
Only thing I can come up with is Chenicimo Blue or something but it seems radiculous!
Our family trust is set up in the same name as my username and DH and I have just sat here for the last 10 mins rearranging the names & letters but nothing works! PMSL!

So I guess the challange is on for someone to come up with a new (or altered) username. I kinda don't want to change it though, just add to it some way. So thinking caps on everyone! Shane's dying to hear some suggestions! :laughing:

Thanks a million Lou - you just HAD to go mention the fondue didn't you? :banghead:
Well I'll just say that my baileys on ice is bloody wonderful. Oh sorry - you still out of it in your household?! :laughing:

Moorish
22-07-2007, 21:52
LMAO Fi! I swear that child of yours will make a killing on the big screen by the time she's 20!
She, Maddi & Immy don't fall to far from each others tree either. Today my little muffin was weaving in and out of chairs at the Dr's surgery waiting room then she's come for cuddles with Alex. After one time Alex stirred a little & she took a step back from him and let out this absolute shriek of delight then nearly wet herself laughing at the noise she'd made! :rolleyes:

She also does this thing where she'll do something really clever & I'll say "well done Immy! Clap clap for Immy" - when I can't acutlally clap coz my hands are busy, and she'll fully clap herself, proud as punch at her efforts! :rolleyes:

Ah dear . . . she's her fathers daughter for SURE! :laughing:

MrsMiggins
22-07-2007, 22:15
:laughing: That is so cute, Anna!! Do you know (now don't laugh at me here, I think we're all agreed that I have no life to speak of!!) after I read Lou's post several days ago asking you what your new username would be, I was sitting here trying to work something out! I was actually trying to guess what you might make it. I came up with a pretty cool one. I'll see if I can remember it...

alimnich? (obviously working backwards!) Or hang on. No, maybe it was aleimo nicche. I think that was it. I just thought it looked like a foreign word or name, just like I think your current one looks! ;)

ETA: D'uh! I actually came back to post my new favourite Owen pic! But then I just plum forgot!! OK, here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/OweninhisCuteHat1edit.jpg) it is. I love his big, gorgeous eyes & his kissable little chipmunk cheeks in this one! Hey Anna! He's wearing the hat I bought that day you & I went to Target at Northlakes!! It was so stinking hot that day, I can't believe I bought him a winter hat!! lol

Moorish
23-07-2007, 08:17
LMAO Fi! I can't even pronounce those words! PMSL that you were coming up with a new username for me though!
How absolutely cherubic of Owen! I just LOVE those stunning blue eyes he has! Do you remember that I bought the same hat for Alex?! I bought a small size but I seriously don't think he's going to be in it anytime soon - ah well at least it was cheap, right?! :D

Well Immy woke up happy as Larry then turned into the devil incarnate at the click of my fingers. :(
After breakfast she just kicked up such a huge stink for seemly no reason and started picking up toys, hurling them across the room. Shane came home from dropping Chelsea at school at this stage and promptly picked her up and threw her in her bed (well, not literally THREW, but you know what I mean)! She was screaming the house down but now I can't hear her at all so I'm hoping that means she's either playing happily in her cot or she's gone back to sleep. Poor thing had only been up for 1/2 hour.

I guess it's another home day today . . . :(

Moorish
23-07-2007, 08:43
Oh my word!
Just checked out prices for a bowling party and cr@pola! $20 per child - incl 2 games, shoes, a cr@ppy meal of junk food & a game token. :eek:
My goodness it's going to be expensive to NOT have a birthday at home this year :(

Wivi
23-07-2007, 11:40
Gee Anna - that is pricey!:no: I don't think I would be willing to spend that sort of money on a small child's party. I guess you don't want Nicola to feel left out though.

Thanks everyone for your grandparent comments - I know that it is kind of a grandparent right to spoil the little ones. Seriously though - all morning I have had to put up with Will saying "Bik? Bik?" and me saying "No". I feel like the big bad mean mummy. But he CAN'T eat biscuits all day! I think I am winning though - he has eaten quite good food today.

Anna - maybe those molars are making Immy cranky. She certainly sounds out of sorts - not her usual self at all. I hope she gets up happy this afternoon.

Fi - look out! Here comes Miss Bossy Boots! Oh - she is a card your Claire! and Owen is just delicious. Is he as placid as he looks?

Lou - I thought the emotions game was very cute. I think I should try something like that too one day. Will certainly knows happy and laughing but I don't know if he is very good on anything else. Maddi sounded like she caught on very quickly! Clever little thing.

Anna - Alex is a cute as a button. Are you loving having a boy? Oh I meant to say that Troy and I only had our first real discussion about Will's birth the other day! Troy was great during the birth but I have always been disappointed because not once did he ever tell me he was proud of me or anything. I told him that the other day and my "way too honest for his own good" hubby told me it was because it didn't seem all that difficult for me and I didn't have a really hard time with it! I seriously had to restrain myself from "boxing his ears". My perspective was that should have impressed him even more because I was so strong or something (don't worry girls, I don't really believe that) - but oh no - he just thinks I had it easy. Man - I don't care what it is like if we have another one I think I am going to yell the house down so I can get some sort of emotion from him. BLOODY MEN!

Anyway girls - I need to go and wash up and do some other things whilst my very busy boy is sleeping. Chat more later!

:wave:

cath
23-07-2007, 13:00
Hello again,
Anna how about chenicimoale for your user name (sounds like a beer but it might work). Hope Immy is going okay on the antibiotics. Sorry to hear she is turning into a bit of a devil. Our beautiful bonding moments with the boys has been altered slightly since yesterday morning. Paddy had his first episode of lashing out at Will which I was so sad about. I was feeding Will and Paddy came over and suddenly slapped Will on the head with his open hand and he had this angry little look on his face. I sternly told him he was not to hit his brother then he went to do it again but I managed to deflect it the second time as I was prepared and again told him he was not to do it. Paddy got all upset and buried his face in the couch and I tried to distract him by using my normal tone of voice and telling him to go and get a book and we would read a book together. He sort of recovered and went off and got a book but it was the start of the whole sibling rivalry thing I think. He has tried to hit him about 3 times since then again. He still does come up and give Will kisses and cuddles too but I am now always on guard. Sad!! I was saying to Dean that I was hoping we would get away with never thaving that happen - think I was dreaming. Love the photos of Alex - what a beautiful little man -he is such a boy!! He seriously has that "been here before" look. You look fantastic in that photo with your friend too - you are glowing!

Tan good to hear you had a nice weekend away (apart from the couple of issues -bound to happen isn't it). I tried using the Maybe baby and found it useless - I never saw the "ferns" you were meant to see. I might still have it in a drawer somewhere if you want to give it a go -I will have a look later and let you know.

Fi I just love that photo of Owen - he does look like a very content little man. Claire is a classic -sounds like she is 13 years old.

Lou Maddi is another teenager in our midst I think -these girls sounds so grown up. Love the little movies.

Renee what are the frog cakes -they sound cool.

We are heading out for the first time as a family of 4 when the boys wake up from their naps. I have had my week at home and am ready to get out there a bit now I think. Just going to Target to take a couple of things back and to a couple of other shops. It will be the first outing for the new pram - actually better get it out and put the pram liner etc. in it. Tomorrow morning we are off to an auction of whitegoods etc. to see if we can get a bargain dishwasher. Quite looking forward to getting out of the house really. Better get out my "normal" clothes too and see if I have any luck getting back into them. Off to get organised. Chat soon

MrsMiggins
23-07-2007, 13:18
Good luck Cath! I bet you're just dying to get out of the house! A little rest is nice, but anything more than a week & I find I start getting cabin fever - must get out, even if it's just to go do groceries!

I hope the "sibling rivalry" is short-lived. Claire never really lashed out at Owen, for her the jealousy showed itself as bad behaviour & trying to get attention. She'll often want to be picked up when she sees me carrying Owen & has a tantrum when I can't. She still does it occasionally, but for the most part it's not too bad.

Anna, wow! That party does sound pricey!! How many kids would it be for?

Tan, yeah, Owen is pretty placid. He is very lovely & gentle, but if he wants he can certainly make some noise!! Not really crying, he doesn't tend to cry very much, butif he wants something, he'll YELL! :laughing:

Wivi
24-07-2007, 09:45
Hi everyone,

Cath - I am sorry to hear about the hitting incident with Paddy. I guess he has just realised that Will is here to stay and the novelty has worn off. I am sure it will pass quickly as Paddy sounds as though he usually has a gentle nature. I have heard it suggested that you get a couple of special toys or something that Paddy only plays with when you feed the baby or alternatively you get him a doll to "feed" and "change" at the same time that you feed and change Will. I know my SIL used to get her older child to "Help" by getting a nappy out and the wipes etc so that he could feel involved. I don't know if any of this is helpful at all but I do hope it settles again soon.

As for the maybe baby thing I might PM you about it. I had a chat with DH and he thought it might be worth a try.

I hope your trip out was nice yesterday too. I can just imagine the cabin fever you would have been feeling.

Will and I had the loveliest day at home yesterday. It was really nice weather here - about 18 I think, but quite warm in the sun and Will played outside nearly all morning and then again after his sleep in the afternoon til after 4pm! I just sat out there with a cup of T and a magazine in the morning and Will ran around kicking his balls and playing in the sandpit for quite a long time. He also does this funny thing where he runs around the trees near our back fence. Oh - and he chases his shadow. That's absolutely hilarious. In the afternoon he did the same things but I also set up some painting on this little plastic outdoor table and some rice cracker things and he did a few paintings in between all the other things. He had a great time! It was seriously just a lovely day. I think he has a little bit of an imagination as he was playing peekaboo with the towels on the line. So cute.

Oh boy - gotta get back to my reports. I hope Hayles is doing ok this week. :fingerscrossed: that MS starts to improve soon!

Wivi
24-07-2007, 13:36
Oh ho Hum. So it is just me in here again today! :o All alone!

Moorish
24-07-2007, 17:46
PMSL Tan!
And I was actually thinking of you all day today!
Shane has hogged the computer for much of the day - either playing his stupid online chess or working on stuff from the ATO sports carnival from March (yes WORK related stuff! :rolleyes: )
Oh I am just LOVING having a little boy by the way! Although at the moment it's much the same - except for nappy change time! :D It takes me twice as long to change his nappy because I'm still trying to figure out how to clean everything without hurting him - and trying not to get piddled on! He did it for the 2nd time today while I was changing him but I caught it with a wipe but he must have been so full because he wet down to his jumpsuit so we had to change him - lucky we have a STACK of clothes! LOL!
Your day yesterday sounded so lovely! I simply can't WAIT for spring to arrive - those sunny 16-18 degree days just warm me through and I can just sit back and let the kids run wild outside without worrying about completely soaking their mud stained clothes! Will must have totally enjoyed himself to have had such a wonderful nap!

Cath - we looked at doing that name as a username - as it makes perfect sense but it does look weird doesn't it?! I don't like that it sounds like "moal" at the end of it! I'm tempted just to leave it the same and maybe add another word to the end - like Chenicimo Blue or something - but that still seems silly to me PMSL! Anyway, no rush to change it but I just have to get creative!
I'm sorry to hear about Paddy lashing out at Will - I'm sure it's just a phase and I know it's completely normal. I think that how you're handling it is right - I'd do exactly the same thing. It's more about distraction (esp while you're BF-ing Will) than telling Paddy off. I mean after all, this crying, pooping, attention demanding little thing has just come into "Paddy's" world and he doesn't understand why he has to share his mummy! I'd make sure that where you BF that you have a few special books in a pile, and ALWAYS have a dvd ready to go! :laughing:
How'd it go getting out of the house? We're going to try that tomorrow (if I can get Shane off his lazy butt!)

Fi - I just read about your broad band situation - that sucks! Imagine having to wait til a space is free for you! You're in QLD for goodness sake - not the Sahara Desert! And who in their right mind would close theirs anyway unless they were moving? Here's hoping that where ever you move to next you'll be able to hook up straight away.

As for Nicola's birthday, we've decided to do the whole bowling thing. It's $17 per child and includes 1 game, shoe hire, a meal, party bag and some other little bits and pieces. We decided that 1 game would be enough for 3-5 yo's and made it a little cheaper. I'm allowed to bring a cake but can't bring a platter of food for the adults. If I want I can purchase hot/cold platters for $30-35 which feeds about 6 people - pathetic. I think I'll just offer to buy the adults a drink (which will probably end up the same price anyway). There'll be about 8 kids all up (inc Chelsea & Nicola) so tried to keep it fairly small - I just know Nicola will love it. Does this sound ok? I've searched this entire website for suggestions for kids parties and got nothing! We only have 1 large & 1 tiny play centre here and both are incredibly expensive and all provide complete junk - I'd rather spend the money and make nice food and party at home.

Immy is still being testy but she just loves Alex and all the girls sat in a circle and had cuddle time with him this afternoon. At the moment Alex is sitting on my lap facing the computer while I type - wonder how long this will last?! Shane's gone up the road with the girls to return some dvd's (we've been watching a few lately!) and bring some chicken & chips back for dinner (the afternoon just got away from us today and I'm feeling lazy!)

Alex has been really snuffley the last few days and has been sneezing up dark brown/yellow chunks of snot (REALLY thick) that has a little blood in it. I've been worried so I asked my Jan about it (health nurse) when I called to make the 6 week appojntment. She seemed to think that it could still be from the birth and not an infection - but if I was worried to either go to the Dr or come in at one of the open clinics to get it checked out. In the meantime apparently I'm to express some milk and put a few drops up his nose - it acts as a decongestant :confused: . I said - WOW! I should bottle this stuff and sell it! Liquid gold! LOL! My dear Jan then shocked me and said that actually it is reduced to powdered form and sold in health stores to footballers!! I kid you not! I'll be sussing this out next time I go visit Jan again, but I'm sure she wouldn't pull my leg! If this is the case, I guess there's a bit more too it than just opening up a "lemonade" stand outside your house! PMSL!

Ok gotta go - sitting here eating dinner but Alex is really hungry too - he's due at 7pm so close enough.

bingo
25-07-2007, 06:17
Hello everyone and big HI to Tan who was feeling lonely yesterday. Every now and then while I'm at work I pop in and have a read but figure it might be really naughty if I actually post.
Anna, sounds like the girls are loving having Alex around which is terrific. I laughed so hard when you told the story about Alex peeing on you. I can imagine that changing his nappy is a whole different experience from the girls. I mean - there's a whole different weapon to deal with. I'd be slow at it too.
And in response to your comment - no I'm not pregnant, just still recovering from the last one :laughing: I still have placenta brain.
Well I'd better go, just popping on while I'm stuffing brekkie into me and Maddi. Its my Friday! YAY! Talk to you guys more tonight or tommorow.
:hugs:

cath
25-07-2007, 10:44
Hi there,
Anna that is hilarious about the footballers getting their dose of breastmilk -classic! The bowling thing sounds good but it's crazy how expensive these things can be. You do have to be quick with the boys - Will has managed to soak himself a few times mid nappy change.

Lou is Maddi back at childcare? How are her ears?

Tan your day outside yesterday sounds lovely. That is my dream and the reason we had to review the dog situation -I am looking forward to days like that.

Fi you're right -a week is long enough to be cooped up -it has been good to get out.

The shopping trip on Monday was a success -the Phil and Ted's pram is great!! Highly recommend it as a pram for toddler + baby -so easy to steer and still so narrow and was still able to stuff quite a bit in the basket at the bottom even with Will lying down. Yesterday we had a massive day at a homemakers auction. We thought we would be there for an hour and a half or so and ended up being there for 5 hours!! The poor little boys. Will was fine (just slept the whole time -I had to poke him a couple of times to feed him - he wasn't even waking up) but poor Paddy. We didn't even take any toys or books for him. Luckily I had thought to take him some lunch (which I thought he would be eating in the car on the way home). He did really well - a few tantrums but fair enough. He had no day sleep and really didn't have much to do -Dean and I took it in turns walking around the auction place with him and I took off with the pram a few times to walk around the block. It was a hell of a day but we got our dishwasher. We got a $1300 Blanco stainless steel dishwasher for $700 so we are pretty happy with that. We also got 4 little kids wooden chairs that were really good quality and were painted in all different colours (we got blue and green) for $50 which I think is good.

Paddy has gone to Dean's parents for a while today and I am doing a heap of washing and going to sort out some stuff -still have baby presents and things everywhere and Will is already looking a bit too big for his 0000 suits (can't quite stretch his legs out poor little man) so need to pack them away and get out the 000's. Better get on to it.

Hayley hope you are hanging in there -still thinking of you.

MrsMiggins
25-07-2007, 13:53
Cath, are you taking over the bargain shopper spot while Hayles is laid up? :laughing: Well done on your bargains! Good work!!

Anna, how cute about your girls sitting in a circle with Alex!!

Tan, what a nice day you & Will had the other day! Sounded just perfect!

I'd better run. I've left Claire eating a ham, cheese, tomato & avocado sandwich in the lounge room, watching a Wiggles tape (yes, we have some old tapes!! LOL From when Ashley (DSD) was little - in the days before DVD's!) It'll be interesting to see if the sandwich has been eaten, mushed into the carpet, or stuffed into various toys!! :rolleyes:

Moorish
25-07-2007, 14:48
Hey Fi - Oh I keep forgetting that you have a DSD as well! How's that all going for you? How often does she stay with you and how does she like Owen?
Any luck with the house hunt yet?

Cath - I forgot to ask you while we were chatting today - how's Paddy going with the smacking thing? Has he done it since? How are you handling it? Great purchase with the dishwasher by the way! Now how long before it gets installed? :rolleyes: :D

Lou - yay for your Friday! :yelclap: So it'll be baileys on ice all around tonight?! :D How's our Maddi holding up? Her ears any better from all the cr@p? Have you noticed a difference in her yet? Hope to see you around the next couple of days!


Well I've just gone completely APE at the girls today. Chelsea & Nicola's room & playroom has gotten back into the same messy state (although worse) and I was so mad that I just yelled and screamed again, before finally this afternoon losing it and went in there throwing things back into their toy boxes and throwing a few things away. The amount of dvd's & dvd covers floating around this house is just unbelieveable and I'm in the middle of pairing them up again, however I'm missing about 2 or 3 dvds but I have about 8 dvd's with no covers! I'd rather it that way around though than missing the dvds. The girls are still searching for them - but even now I can still hear them playing in there rather than cleaning up - they have a rude shock coming.

Immy was a bright spark when she woke up but got really crabby by about 11:30 (no morning nap) and it got to a point where she totally lost it and screamed the house down because I wanted to blow her nose - so I just picked her up by the waist and threw her (put her!) into her cot to scream it out. I can't listen to her when she's being like this - it's cruel I know but she'll learn. At least she's safe in there. I'd be tempted to smack her for her bad behaviour but I know it wouldn't solve anything so cot it is (until I have the energy for the naughty spot, which is NOT right now!)

Well I've just downed a can of full strength coke to get an energy boost but it's done nothing! I still feel out to it - all Shane's fault - he's in the poo today and I've made sure he's known it too. Somewhere during the night he went back to the spare room (yes, apparently I'm still snoring . . .) and he didn't come and help with Alex at 4am this morning. (It's his job to get him up and change a nappy in between sides if needed, then put him back to bed). Anyway, Alex didn't settle back very well and was awake again every 1/2 hour or so seemingly for more milk but mainly just to suck, so I was attending to him until 7am where he finally drifted off to sleep next to me in bed where I left him (pushed to Shane's side). Shane came in at 8:30 and I just passed him Alex and said, thanks for all your help - he's yours until his next feed, and I went back to sleep til about 10ish then got up and had a shower (1st one in 3 days LOL!) My grand plans for getting out of the house came crashing down when Shane didn't move his butt at all this morning so I thought I'd go out myself but that didn't happen either. Oh well, there's always tomorrow.

Feel like I'm in a poo with the whole world at the moment. Even last night when the postie delivered more parcels to our door for Alex! But my mood was quickly changed when I ripped into some lovely pressies! OMG this child has enough clothing for 5 babies! I really shouldn't have shopped at ALL before he was born! Seriously! I just hope he gets to wear everything - knowing me I'll make sure of it - even if I have to change him twice a day! PMSL! Anyway, poo with the world again - especially my mother who calls and acts like nothing is wrong (still haven't had it out with her about ditching the girls the last night I was in hospital) and apart from asking how everyone is, blabs on and on about her new kitchen that just went in and how nothing works and things are faulty and wrong parts were ordered and tiles won't match and blah, blah ******* blah. . . Like I care. I've dealt with helping make her decisions for her and being objective on products for MONTHS now and I'm so over it all. Her kitchen was FAR more important than having the girls and she had to kick them out on the Thursday night because she had a (weight watchers) meeting to go to and John couldn't look after them for 1/2 hour (not that she said that) and she still had to empty kitchen cupboards as the plumbers were coming the next day. She said, is Shane hopeless or something? Why can't he just have them for a night by himself?! I said he's FINE with them but of all nights, this is NOT the night to have all 3 kids as we were leaving hospital the next day and there was a lot to organise, take to the car, time spent signing forms, last checks etc and I didn't want 3 kids running around the place while he was back and forth to the car etc. In the end, Chelsea & Nicola went to nans house & Shane took Immy home for the night so it was only Immy that came to hospital & we went and collected the girls from nans later that day. Haven't really had a decent conversation with mum since, although when it all does hit the fan and I tell her about it she'll be very surprised by the way I feel as I'm sure she doesn't care because she got what she wanted. Shane and I have always said that she b!tches and moans that she doesn't get to see the kids but she only wants them or wants to see them on her terms, when it suits her schedule etc & is forever b!tching that we don't come over on weekends etc - I keep saying that they're OUR weekends too and it's not fair that Shane misses out on time with the kids because we're always visiting the grandparents etc. She knows where we live and can always come down after work etc but no, it's too hard, they're too tired, traffic is too much, too far away etc. Heaven forbid we all should live on the mainland. . .

I'm SO NOT like my mother and I refuse to be like her when my kids are having kids. Working or not, I'll always want to be there and be available if I'm needed. I know I'm much more like my grandmother and have that "taking care of the family" trait that she's become a martyr to, although I still want a little bit of a life in my retirement years! But to me that includes having the grandkids over, or being their for my kids when they need me. Shane knows what my mother is like and although most wives would SLAP their hubbies silly if they even so much as hinted that they're turning out like their mums - I've placed Shane under strict orders that if I ever become remotely like her, he has permission to pull me up on it. LOL!

Oh gosh I'm so sorry for that vent - that all just blabbed out of my fingers as I was stewing over it in my head - I can type quite fast and it's a curse to you all I'm sure!
Ok I'd better go have another coke and try and get more caffine into my system! My brain really needs a buzz. I'll feel better later, I promise. Sorry if you've ACTUALLY read all of that.

Katcha
25-07-2007, 18:13
OK, just a quick one today. Got my stuff in the mail yesterday for my next Uni subject which I've now started. It's Radiation Safety, and it's one of the subjects that I particularly want to do. But I looked at the assignments I have to do & the 2nd one looks really scary....looks like there's too much maths & physics in it...:confused: I guess we'll see how I go!

For those of you wondering what frog cakes are.....these are frog cakes (http://www.nationaltrustsa.org.au/heritage_icons_2001.htm#balfours) They have spongy stuff down the bottom with a couple or thin jam layers & in the frogs mouth is really sweet mock creamy type stuff that always gives me a sugar buzz....my 2 that were in the fridge were both in my belly by Sunday night! :yes:

No signs of any ms here yet. But seems to be getting really bad pregnancy brain. Started to leave for my lunch break then headed back thinking I'd forgotten my bag. After a bit of searching for it finally realised it was already on my back....:o

MrsMiggins
25-07-2007, 21:09
Oh Anna!! :hugs: You poor thing!! You obviously needed to get that out!! That sort of cr@p is really not what you need right now. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day! I know when your kids are grown up, you will be the most doting grandma!!!

Renee - :laughing: about your PG brain!!! I warn you, it is far, far worse with #2!!! Hopefully you won't have ot do any prac work for your Radiation Safety stuff!! :eek:

No news on the move yet. Oh, except that Dave's boss might be thinking about buying an investment property, so we might possibly be able to rent from them, which would be good.

Anna, I guess I never really mention DSD much. In all honesty, we don't see her very often because she lives so far away, but we sent her down some pics of Owen & she was chuffed!

Hope you're all having a nice evening & Hayles, I hope you are feeling better! I think about you every day & wonder how you're doing!! :hugs:

Katcha
25-07-2007, 22:04
Actually Fi, I work with radioactive stuff every day! :) Perfectly safe, was working with it when I was preggers with Katelyn too. I wear a badge which monitors how much I've been exposed to...I'm always well under the limit. :yes:

Oh, & about the preggers brain being worse with #2, yeah, I didn't have preggy brain this early last time!! :eek:

MrsMiggins
25-07-2007, 22:25
Ahhh! That's good! Just want to know you guys are safe! :D

I am afraid to say though, that the PG only gets worse (and is FAR more difficult to get rid of after the birth!!!)

Katcha
25-07-2007, 22:29
Oh dear.....no hope for me then! ;)

hayleylea
26-07-2007, 14:52
Hey guys. Now i havent read all of the posts but i was just feeling really happy I had to post!!!

TODAY I FEEL HALF NORMAL!!!!! :smiliedance: I have felt pretty good for most of the day too!! Even managed a few outings!!! So feeling very happy :fingerscrossed: its like this from now on!!!

Fi i did manage to check out your pic of Owen and OMG he is adorable!!! such a little cutie....

And the new bubbas Alex and Will are just cute too! We make cute babies in this group huh!

OK gotta get going just had to check in quickly!

bingo
26-07-2007, 14:59
I've been hoping to get on here all day but had a lunch date and that pretty much well stuffed up my plans to get a billion things done today. We're going to Falls Creek for 5 nights as of Sunday so I'm frantically running around trying to get everything sorted. We want to buy a roof pod for the car and I was meant to go and have a look at some today but time ran away and Maddi just had a mega day sleep so not today. I'm also trying to get hold of a snowsuit for Maddi. We didn't decide we were going until yesterday - hows that for a last minute decision! AND I bought a snowboard from USA today which was half the price of what they sell them for here. So I'm pretty excited.
I got Maddi's DVD player today that I ordered a week ago. It was on sale over the internet and I paid about $150 for it and its terrific. So thats the car trip sorted.
Maddi's ears have cleared up really well according to our GP. He said that they look like textbook and was really happy with how they looked. So thats a bonus. The bad thing is that Maddi is going through some sort of bad sleeping pattern. She is waking at least once in the night (usually around 1-3am) and refusing to go back to sleep unless its in bed with us. I've tried giving her a drink but that doesn't work. I have no idea whats going on except I do know that we are tired.
Frog cakes look yummo Renee. I could have one right now I reckon. Good to hear you haven't sufferd the MS symptoms and only the PG brain. Poor Hayley must still be really crook as she hasn't been on here lately.
Fi, I hope your boss hurries up and buys a investment property so you guys can live in it. How did Claires sandwhich end up the other day?
Anna, your vent was justified and don't worry........totally get where your coming from. Your mum sounds like she's just focused on her world right now and can't see the forest through the trees. Boy when you finally blow up at her your going to give it to ehr with both barrels aren't you.
Cath, great bargain hunting with the kitchen gear. When are you getting them installed? Well Paddy lasted a long time before he started lashing out Will. He did pretty well for his age and I'm sure it won't take him long to accept that Will is here to stay and he's on his side.
OMG last night Maddi did her first poop in the bath. I totally freaked. I was reading the paper next to the bath when I look over and there she is on all 4's pushing out a BIG poo. I did a double take and squealed and pulled her out of the bath. DH came running in asking what the hell was going on. So he took Maddi out and got her cleaned up while I was on poo patrol and disinfectant duty. Honestly it was such a big poo that I was amazed it came out of tiny Maddi. She must have been so relaxed in the bath :o . What got me was that she was on all 4's pushing with all her might. Little monkey.
Well I better go. I'm out for tea tonight with some GF's. I'd actually rather stay home tonight as I'm tired as.
Talk to you soon

Moorish
26-07-2007, 15:46
CR@P Lou!
I SO wish you were online right now because there's a snow suit about to be sold on ebay (finishes in about 10 mins!) that's located in BENDIGO!!!! :D
How's that for ironic?! :rolleyes:

I'll be back later - gotta rush to Big W.

Wivi
26-07-2007, 19:04
:hugs: Anna - you sounded as though you really needed to get that stuff off your chest about your Mum. I don't know your Mum at all but it sounded very inconsiderate especially as she originally agreed to have the girls.

Cath - you are a bargain hunter! You sounded as though you had a really good day out at the sales. Take full advantage of having that hubby of yours around I say!

Renee - lol at your preggy brain. I do stuff like that too - but alas it is not preggy brain or I have been pregnant pretty much all my life! Too blonde for my own good I think!

Lou! I hope your trip away is fun and that you find a snow suit for Maddi. I'm kicking myself cause someone gave us one for Will and I think I gave it away as we are not snow people. I would have express posted it to you. I am so glad Maddi's ears are doing well - but what a bummer about the sleep! All I can say is at least she goes to sleep in with you guys - last time I tried that with Will he started talking and wanting to play. Maybe she wakes up and is a bit scared or something after her op? You know how she got all frightened when she woke up in the hospital? Who knows - but it will settle down again! Will has been going through this annoying phase of sleeping well at home but waking when we are staying somewhere else and I am just praying that he stops doing it soon.

Hayley - :smiliedance: :smiliedance: So happy to hear you are feeling better! I hope you keep improving. I have missed you so much.

Fi - ooh, I hope Dave's boss does buy a nice investment property that you guys can rent. That would be very convenient!

Well I am going to have a bit of a vent here so if you want to move on to the next post I will not be offended one bit. I just need to get it out. I so nearly cracked it big time this afternoon. I have so much respect right now for a) single mums and b) people whose partners work night shift. I am so over Troy being out every night and working most of the day as well. It is seriously driving me up the wall. What is frustrating me is that it doesn't occur to him that when he is busier I have to work harder too. I have been trying really hard not to say anything and just get on and do whatever I can to help but I got so annoyed today. As you all know I work a bit as well and Troy is at home Wed, Thurs and Fri. Well this morning I had a work appointment so he had to look after Will. Troy's interpretation of looking after Will lately is not the same as mine and when I got home I discovered that Will has been watching a Wiggles DVD yet again and there are toys and crayons etc everywhere. There are a couple of issues with this - I hate the fact that Troy uses DVD's as a babysitter (everyone does it sometimes but lately Troy does it every time he has to look after Will) and I know that he doesn't supervise Will when he has crayons/pencils. You see Troy just sits at his computer and does his work and lets Will run amuck. Then he wonders why Will has this Daddy obsession at the moment where he constantly asks for Daddy. Well - that's because Daddy ignores him most of the time and expects him to entertain himself - for HOURS. So then when I get home or am around, Will is constantly asking me to play with him etc. So I am doing my work when he is asleep (hence late at night or early in the morning), doing all the housework, cooking and washing and taking care of Will almost fulltime and I AM GOING INSANE! I was thinking about asking a friend to babysit Will tomorrow night so that we could go out for dinner but right now I feel like leaving the boys at home together and going out by myself. I am so frustrated.

The worst bit is that I feel guilty because I know that Troy is working hard - it's not like he is out socialising. I also know that I have at least one dummy spit every year during the busy time and I guess this is it for the moment. But seriously, I have the poor me thing at the moment and feel very un-appreciated! To top it all off I worry about Will and wonder whether daycare would be a better option a couple of days a week. Then I go on this merry-go-round of how I should be raising my kid and not having other people do it for me, that we are not busy with work all the time , more daycare will probably just mean sick more often and that is more stress...:ecomcity: . I told you I was nuts!

OK - that's all out there now. I'm going to find some wine and some chocolate and make myself feel better.

Sorry for the big whinge!

hayleylea
27-07-2007, 07:47
Hey guys

Well yesterday i felt great all day. 1.30 this morning it was :barf: in a bucket again!!! And again this morning...which im not happy about. It got me a bit disheartened - i thought i was getting better then that! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Anyway after that puke in the bucket this morning and a bit of toast and a drink i feel reasonably good again! (YAY) Im hoping it lasts throughout the day.

Tan - AWWW you have missed me!!! - Ive missed you alot too! everytime i log onto MSN latley your not there for a chat! Will catch up soon. As for your vent - all justified indeed! I think we all feel unappreciated sometimes - if i was you i would be heading out for dinner with your girlfriend and giving yourself a well deserved break!!!

Anna - i did read your vent about your mum too and i want to send one of these your way too :hugs:

Ok i better get going. Cooper just got up and i better spend some mummy time with him while im feeling half decent! he has been such a sleepy head, sleeping in till 8.30-900 every morning and then having a 3 hour day sleep!!! Good little man!

talk soon guys.

Wivi
27-07-2007, 09:58
Morning everyone. Feeling a little sheepish today after my enormous whinge last night. I do realise that we have it pretty good in this house compared to a lot of others so I am sorry for my selfishness.

After my post I went and found myself a cherry ripe, some port and a face mask and made myself feel a lot better. Even so I do confess to still feeling a bit miserable this morning. But I am just being a moody cow I think.

Hayley -so glad you had a good day yesterday. But I am sorry that MS hit you again in a nasty way this morning. I know my cousin that had the MS really bad said that she would have a good day and get all excited and do a whole heap of stuff only to find that she over did it and the next day she felt awful again. Maybe you will have to pace yourself a little. That's great that Cooper has been such a good boy for you and having such great sleeps. That would really help a lot.

I forgot to mention in here that Will has cut one of those bottom eye teeth now - probably why he has had a few cranky moments lately. I think he has been really good all in all though. Last night he must have heard Troy come in and yelled out "Daddy" at about 9:30 but I just went in and told him it was sleep time and he was fine, went back to sleep til after 7:30 this morning. Troy has these stupid steel things on the bottom of his work shoes and they clip like horse shoes on our floorboards!

Anyway - better go - Will is asking for his cup.

See you all soon.

bye

Katcha
27-07-2007, 14:28
Hayley! Great to hear you feeling better. Hopefully your MS continues to improve. No sign of any for me just yet. Still just bad preggy brain.

Lou, hope you enjoy your trip away. And that's certainly good to hear that Maddi's ears have cleared up. :fingerscrossed: no more ear problems! Oh, I had to have a laugh about the pooping in the bath! I think James would be freaking out if Katelyn did that....he has to get in the bath with her cos it's a bit spa bath we've got.

Tan, I think you're quite justified in your vent! :hugs: Oh & tell Troy yo take his shows off before he comes in the house so he doesn't wake Will! ;)

bingo
27-07-2007, 15:17
ah Anna I can't believe there was a ski suit in Bendigo. How annoying! I have been looking on ebay but somehow I must have missed that one. And Thanks Tan for the offer of the one you had, I would have jumped on it too if you still had it. Maddi and I went hunting around for one today and I found one at Aussie Disposals thats $70 and should fit her for a couple of years. I have to go back and buy it tommorow morning as we went hunting at a few stores and by the end of it Maddi had had well and truly enough of trying on all these big hot suits. She did well to last as long as she did. I also got these snow boots for her that are really nice and were 50% off because they are the last one's.
Tan, I just read your vent and OMG it sounds all so similar to my thoughts and feelings at the moment. I'm constantly complaining about DH not being home because of hockey, failing to mention he actually gets paid to coach. But still its a strain on our relationship. And I have the exact same thing going on with DH when he looks after Maddi. And they wonder why the kids go looking for mum when their hurt or scared. I had a think about your comment regarding why Maddi is waking and that does make sense. And here's a bit of info for you regarding childcare - Maddi has been at creche for 1 week and today she has come down with a cold :mad: . Its so annoying!
Renee, we're got a big corner bath too and sometimes I do get in it with Maddi but thank goodness I wasn't in with her when she made her "present".
Hayley, whenever I read about Cooper sleeping so well I get so jealous. Your so lucky! Great to hear your MS seems to be easing off a bit. How is the weight going?
Hey Anna - what did you buy at Big W? Not more clothes for Alex?

Moorish
27-07-2007, 19:19
LMAO! NO Lou! Not buying more clothes for Alex! In the end I didn't get down there anyway, but I was going to print some photos of Alex to put in my announcement cards. Problem arose that 1/2 the cards are a square shape and are 7 x 8cm and the photo I took was too upclose to resize it. So I took some more today but they didn't come out very well. I've been mucking around with a program today and I fixed it in about 2 seconds so now it fits. Bugger - now I've missed the Harvey Normal 15c deal for photos. :mad:
Silly me still has preggy brain - or the equivilent because I really should have called or sent you a text message about that snow suit! It was a darn site cheaper but at least the one you're getting will last Maddi a while - make sure you take lots of good pics for us!
Hey, I just love spur of the moment trips, but how'd you both manage to get time off?!! I hope you have heaps of fun (of course you will you snow bunny!), we'll miss you terribly next week! Think of me when you're cosied up in front of an open log fire, sipping a nice red or at least a hot chocolate!

Tan - I totally understand where you're coming from. Shane had a period at work where he was away from work a lot - mainly in Melbourne or Brisbane - and I was left with 2 or 3 kids by myself for up to the whole week. I totally sympathise with how hard it is, but I can't imagine having to work on top of that. You're very justified in your grizzle over how DH "looks after" Will as well. Shane is pretty good, but does often rely on a dvd or the fact that the girls can just go play in their rooms relatively well.

Hayles - Oh I can't believe you've been reaquainted with Mr Toiletbowl :(. I'm with Tan - even if you're feeling well - take that time to keep resting and pace yourself with the activities & errands you do. I'm sure no-one is going to starve if the groceries arn't done on the same day each week and enjoy some Mummy-Cooper time when you're feeling well. Maybe a walk to the park or around the block for some fresh air will help boost some energy when you are up to it.

Renee - I really hope the M/S stays away for you. LMAO at the thought of your DH jumping out of the spa like he's been stung! I'd imagine my DH to react somewhat the same!

Oh Lou - Shane know's when to come running when I'm bathing the kids and I let out a shreik! From memory only Chelsea & Nicola have pooed in the bath and not only have I ripped them all out (they all bath together), I've then scrubbed with disinfectant the bath with all my might before running another bath and washing the kids again from top to toe! :D

Cath - how are you hun? Hope you're getting some rest!
Ange - Have you been around lately? We miss you!
Fi - Can't wait to hear some good news from you - I have EVERYTHING crossed that the investment property thing works out for you!

Well got a phone call yesterday from the hospital saying that they had to repeat Alex's heel pr!ck test as the original one done at birth clotted so they can't get any results. I took him in this morning and it wasn't nice at all. I now know why they don't encourage mums to be there for it. Alex's feet were cold (although he was wearing socks, an all in one jumpsuit, velour overalls and booties) so they didn't bleed well at all. I tried feeding him which helped for a bit but the nurse ended up pricking his other heel as well and by this stage he was screaming but it actually helped him bleed so I was told to stop feeding and let him cry. OMG it was just so cruel and I just had to look away. He's still a bit sooky at feed times and I'm going to have to be careful of his little feet for a couple of days.

My MIL also called yesterday and shocked Shane and I half to death saying that she wanted to have Chelsea for a few nights! She later admitted to having a weak, lonely moment and she wouldn't let it happen again! LOL! She's one weird woman, but I think since their move in Dec last year (they moved from 5 mins away to 45 mins away) she's realised that she really misses seeing the girls as much so she has to have them over to spend any good time with them. Anyway we took Chelsea out there yesterday and MIL calls this morning saying Chelsea has a cough, runny nose & conjunctivitis! We only just stopped the dimatapp at nights and we've never had conjunctivitis before! So poor me has to drive all the way out there today to take some dimatapp out there and also take Chelsea to the chemist to have her eyes checked - only for the pharmacist to say she didn't have it (what the?!) Anyway, I bought drops for her eyes anyway - telling the pharmacist that MIL has seen how her eyes looked last night (all runny & gunky) and that she'd just cleaned them so they looked better. $12 later and I'm back in the car racing Chelsea to a flower girls dress fitting that I'd forgotten about (1/2 hour drive back in my home direction). That took over an hour coz I was chatting to the girl (a friend of mine) and discovered that her little boy (14mths old) is called Isaac Alexander! :eek: I'm still in shock as I had no idea! So Alexander Isaac was introduced to Isaac Alexander! PMSL!
Finally got Chelsea back to nanny's house and it was 3.30pm by this stage and I was buggered. I was supposed to have mums group this morning but I rocked up to discover the blinds all closed and no cars outside. Checked my mobile and there was a text to say cancelled. I was so looking forward to it as I haven't seen my friends in over a month due to being in hospital & a Hobart meet the fortnight before that. I was also supposed to spend the day out doing stuff that I've wanted to do for over a weeks now (get photos printed for announcements, buy some more clothes & shoes for me, check out a little upright vacuum to buy, & a little flat screen tv for the kitchen) non of which I got to do. I stopped at the post office, the bakery (yum! Vanilla slice!) and the video store before plodding home.
Ah well, there's always tomorrow I guess. . .

Anyway, yet again my fingers have blabbed away - don't bother reading - it's just crapping on!

Hope you all have a great weekend!

Moorish
27-07-2007, 19:23
P.S. Lou I found that suit on ebay by typing in snow suit, rather than ski suit - I just realised. :laughing:

bingo
29-07-2007, 08:57
Anna I'll have to have some drinks for you now that you asked me so nicely. :D . I've already packed some Baileys and chocolate all set to go. Had a quick chat to Ange yesterday on MSN which was fantastic as it had been ages. Then I had to dash as my buddy from Tassie popped in with her son Fraser. Fraser and Maddi had been mates since birth and they were running and giggling like 2 teenagers. At one stage I walked into the kitchen to find the two of them standing side by side just giggling. It was Sooooo cute. It was so sad to see them go again. I so have to make a trip to Tassie to see all my friends down there.
Well the car is choc-a-block full. And if I'm truthful we haven't even finished jamming all the stuff into the car. There is going to be no room for people. We bought one of those roof pods yesterday and let me tell you it was a DRAMA. The holes didn't match up with the roof racks and there was a lot of cursing going on. But now its on and its never coming off.
OK I had really better say my "seeya laters" now as I have a tonne to do still. I promise I'll take a stack of photo's of my little snow princess.
Have a great week

hayleylea
29-07-2007, 09:44
Hi guys just a quick post from me to let you know im all still alive! lol.

Things are going OK here. Yesterday I had a pretty good day with the MS. In the early hours of the morning I had a spew attack but nothing major. Feel a bit blah today but not too bad!

Gee Anna - Alexander looks like you in your avatar!!

Lou have a great time at the snow cant wait to see the photos.

everyone else sorry for the lack of personals hopefuly i can keep up soon!

:hugs:

cath
29-07-2007, 15:37
Hi everyone,
Hayley good to hear you are still with us and having the occasional good moment. I hope there is a big change for you soon.

Anna I agree with Hayely - Alex definitely looks like you. Sounds like you have been having some crazy days -hope you are getting some rest too.

Lou hope you have a ball in Falls Creek. Maddi will look so cute in her snow outfit -look forward to seeing some pictures.

Renee those cakes look great. Hope the MS is staying away for you.

Tan sounds like your whinge was justified to me. Men are totally different creatures.

Fi how's the house hunting going?

Well Dean is going back to work tomorrow -where did that time go? I am not looking forward to it. He has been great at home and has been doing so much with Paddy and it has made a huge difference. I think I am going to be in for a challenging week. Paddy is still lashing out at Will now and then and it is only going to get worse without his Dad to distract him. He is still having loving moments as well but I'm never sure which one it is going to be be when he comes over to Will so I have to be totally on guard. I have been trying to get a bit of extra rest the last couple of days. I had a bit of a meltdown on Thursday evening -I was so tired and just felt like ****. Will never sleeps for longer than 2.5 hours at night which is killing me a bit. He was like clockwork last night with feeds required exactly every 3 hours so by the time you get up,change his nappy,feed him, get him back to bed 45 minutes is gone and then by the time I get back to sleep I get a huge 2 hour block of sleep before I am up again. It is exhausting. I hadn't been sleeping during the day and was staying up too late at night ( I am trying to get to bed early but it is so hard -by the time we finish dinner it is 8:30 then I want a bit of relaxation time). Now I am trying to go to bed early at least 2 nights out of 3 and trying to have a day sleep every second day. Anna I don't know how you do it with the 3 other kids -I guess you have no choice but to soldier on. I so hope Will's sleep at night starts stretching out a bit soon -surely it will (hopeful thinking). Anyway just a quick check in for now. My Mum is coming over in the morning to come to Mothers Group with me which will be a great help. Hopefully I will get on here again soon. Hope everyone is well. Chat soon.

ETA: Today's photo of Will

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4250.jpg

Wivi
29-07-2007, 17:20
Hi there,

It's been a quiet weekend in here! I hope Lou managed to squeeze herself (& Maddi & Tony) into her car and got off to Falls Creek ok. Wow - a week at the snow! Having only ever spent one week at the snow in my whole life I still have a rather romantic notion of going to the snow, so I have all these warm and cozy thoughts when I think of heading off there. Totally forgetting the horrible sunburn I got when I was there and the chapped lips, and the fact that it really is bloody freezing and I hate being cold. No - I just think about lots of hot chocolate, open fireplaces (that Will can get into no doubt) and snuggling on the couch. AS IF! I hope Lou has fun anyway - I can't wait to see the pic of Maddi.

Hayley - it sounds as though there is a bit of light shining through the MS fog now and then and that is good to hear. I hope it continues to improve.

Cath - oh I really hope you can get some decent sleep soon. Good on you for realising that super woman is not all it is cracked up to be and heading off for a nap every so often. I hope you can manage ok with Dean back at work. It sounds as though your Mum might be fairly handy - make sure you ring her if you need help! Love the pic of Will by the way - he is getting bigger already!

ANNA! My goodness - the dramas that happen to you. Poor little Alex and his heel test. That sounded very mean. I hope Chelsea is ok too and that you are squeezing in some decent rest as well.

Renee - sounds great that you haven't had any MS as yet. I hope it continues for you and that your brain sees some good days as well. LOL. Preggy brain can be dangerous!

Well - we have had a bit of a crazy weekend with lots of catching up with friends and family. Troy's Oma was 90 today and there was a bit of a gathering after church. Will has been so hyped up this afternoon - I actually felt quite sorry for him as there was all these people constantly in his face asking him to perform and I could see he was getting really overwhelmed and that it was all going to end in tears. I wouldn't be surprised if we have an unsettled boy in the night - he doesn't seem to cope all that well with days like today. He is the only great grandchild in NSW (there are two in Victoria) and the only grandchild on Troy's side and the attention is just ridiculous. As far as Troy's siblings go - it is highly unlikely that any of them will have any children soon so we just have to deal with it as best we can! Ah well - it's only one day I guess.

Anyhow - I had better toddle off. I can hear Troy getting Will out of the bath.

Seeya!

hayleylea
30-07-2007, 08:41
Hi guys

Well I think the MS is definatley easing a little - still feel like **** most of the day but not as bad as i did. Ive only been throwing up once too which isnt too bad. Trents taken Cooper out for the morning so im just lazing around watching Telly. Cooper left Ted at home so ive put him the wash :eek: I hope he dries before he gets home or else Cooper wont be very happy!:no:

Anna - hope things have improved at your house! And that your soldiering on being the super mum that you are.

Cath - Very cute photo of Will. He is very cute....

Tan - Poor Will - i hope he went ok last night after his big day yesterday!!

Cooper woke up at 5am today SCREAMING down the house. He was soooo upset and just sobbing so Trent got him and put him into bed with us and we all stayed there till 8.30 which was nice. I did have a spew in my bucket (sorry TMI) at around 5.30 - it was more noise then anything and my gorgeous little boy sat up, layed his head on my back and stroked me with his hand! OMG it almost made me cry - he is such a loving little man! Not the best of circumstances for anyone but it definatley made me feel alot better.

Anywho i better get going.

Talk soon.

BoyCrazy
31-07-2007, 12:24
Hey ladeez!!
Just thought id pop in and say hello... Im in brisvegas with my gorgeous 21 month old bayli.

I have a quick question for you all, on 3 occasions now bubba hasw taken his tantys to the next level, he will start to hold his breath and go purple . This is really really really freakin scary! Has anyone had their bubbas do this to them before?? Do you have any soloutions??

Also I need to ween him completely!!!! Its been 21 months of demand drinks from the milk bar, and I think i have done well enough!!! I would love my body back and would love to have more than 3 hours of sleep at night.

I have him down to just a before bed and wake up feed. Anyone got any good advice for dropping those last feeds??

HELP!!~!
Mel & Bayli :devil6:

Ange&Seth
31-07-2007, 12:28
Hi Mel!!!

Just wanted to say welcome to the thread :wave: I lurk around but don't post much LOL!!

Seth hasn't yet started holding his breath during his tanty's - his tantrums are usually silent protests where he sits or lays on the floor and refuses to move.

And I'd like a tip on getting Seth off his milk too. He's on cow's milk but relies on them too much - some days he'd rather drink milk than actually eat.

:yelclap: Well done to you for feeding this long :yelclap: what an achievement!!! :thumbsup:

hayleylea
31-07-2007, 16:39
Hi guys

boy its been quiet in here! Everyone OK?

Mel - welcome to our thread! Good to have you hear and look forward getting to know you and Bayli more! :D As for the Tantys cant really help you out there. My sisters little girl use to do it and a few times it got so bad that she blacked out and my sister rushed her to the hospital! :eek: They just told her that some kids do it and some kids dont and they eventually grow out of it :rolleyes:

As for the weaning. Well done! youve done a great job to feed for this long! Havent got any tips for you about the weaning though....I stopped breastfeeding at 3 months due to kidney stones so Cooper just went cold turkey and at that age didnt really know any different! He is still on bottles at this stage im not too worried about it though cause he only has one or two a day - its his comfort and i figure he will get rid of it when he is ready.

Anyway sorry i wasnt much help it..once again great to meet you.

Sorry girls i havent been around this ALL day sickness is a killer for me at the moment STILL!!! im at mums (again!) as Trent is in Paupa New Guinea for a couple of days.

Anyway Better go. Cooper has just had his bath and is sooooo tired (no day sleep today cause his cousins were here and he wanted to play) He has done really well - mind you last night he went to bed at 6.30 and didnt get up till 9 this morning LOL! Sleepy head!!!

Hope to catch up with you all soon. I hope everyone is OK and the new mummies are getting plenty of rest and their little boys are having big sleeps at night!

Wivi
31-07-2007, 17:28
Hi Mel and Bayli! Welcome to our thread. It's been a bit too quiet in here lately for my liking so some more friends are definitely welcome.

Wow - you have done very well to keep your milk bar up for so long! Unfortunately we didn't have a milk bar here so I'm not too sure about the weaning thing. I just dropped one bottle at a time with Will but he still has a bottle before bed that I am thinking about stopping soon as well. Will just has cow's milk but he refuses to drink it from a cup which is why I have let him keep up the bottle before bed for so long. With all the other bottles I guess I just went cold turkey and I'll probably have to do that with this one was well. What holds me back is that other than custard he doesn't really have any dairy at the moment and I think dairy is important. I guess I'll just bite the bullet one of these days.

As for the tanty thing, I have certainly heard of other little ones doing the whole breath holding thing but Will isn't really much of a tantrum thrower at this stage. Sometimes he has some half hearted attempts but they are not very convincing. Sometimes if Will starts to get upset we have started to get down to his level and kind of hold both his arms and make him look at us before speaking to him slowly and clearly. It seems to work - we tell him what is happening and make sure he understands and he usually says "yes - ok" and moves on with things.

My exciting thing for the day is that Will followed me to the bathroom this afternoon and while I was going to the toilet (sorry if TMI) he started pulling at his nappy and pointing at the toilet. After some "discussion" I sat him on the potty and he did a wee. This might seem a bit odd as a few months ago I was telling you that he was doing a wee every night on the potty and most mornings. Well - he went on strike some weeks ago now and I haven't pushed it at all. This was the first time he has actually indicated he wanted to go to the toilet! I think he really wants to sit on the proper toilet as that is what he points at and says "wee" but he seems to get scared. I'm not sure if I should get an insert thing for the seat or one of those little ladder things with the seat on the top and maybe he would be a bit more comfy. Man - I wish you could try before you buy! It's so hard to know!

Anyway - gotta go. Am in a mad rush tonight, realised I have a meeting at 7:30 that I totally forgot about.

Seeya!

Sorry to hear you are still not well Hayles. Hope it picks up soon.

ANGE - POST IN HERE MORE OFTEN!!! WE MISS YOU!!!

Wivi
31-07-2007, 18:06
Alright - I was all inspired and attempted to give Will his milk before bed in a cup. He drank a little bit and then gave me the cup back and said "no" to any more. This was a bit of an improvement to the past where he dribbled it all out of his mouth. So I decided that there would be no bottle tonight and as long as he doesn't decide to wake up in the wee hours hungry then there will be no more bottles at all!

MrsMiggins
31-07-2007, 21:45
Hiya!!! I've been reding along, but my quickpost function has not been working & my computer is apparently having other issues as well because it is going sooooo incredibly slowly ATM! Driving us all crazy, particularly when we've been using it to look for properties & those pages take a million years to load!!

Anyway, so I've been reading but it's been too much to post. I've got a bit of time on my hands now, so I thought I'd pop in to my fave bubhubbers!

Hi Mel! Welcome to our little world! Tantrums, uhhh YES! We have tanties galore here, although none of the breath holding. I have definitely heard about it though. I even read an article about it a few months back. Apparently it's very common & there's not a great deal you can do about it other than wait it out, as apparently they grow out of it relatively quickly. I certainly hope Bayli grows out of it quickly for you!

Another bottle-feeder here, at least with Claire. Owen is so far fully BF (:smiliedance:) and I will probably let him self-wean, although I think if he's still going at 18m, I may give him a nudge! We'll see how we go. Claire pretty much gave up her bottles herself, although still has a morning & evening one. I could probably get rid of them, but like Tan said, at least I know she's getting her milk that way. She doesn't much like yogurt or custard (cheese is ok ATM, but she seems to come & go on that one!) so I like giving her her milk & it doesn't really bother me that she has it out of a bottle still. We've tried giving her sippy cups at night, but while she's happy to drink stuff out of them during the day, night-time is strictly bottle time!! :yes: Actually, I was seriously considering doing away with her morning bottle, as she was only having it because we were giving it to her (ie: she wasn't "demanding" it), but now Dave has been getting her up in the mornings & he's been giving it to her while she lies in bed, so now she fully expects to have her bottle in bed of a morning & chucks a massive wobbly if she doesn't get it, or isn't allowed to lay in bed & drink it! :rolleyes:

Tan, well done on eliminating Will's bedtime bottle! You've done well there!! Have you tried giving Will Milo at all? I started recently letting Claire have a warm milo at morning tea time in a sippy cup (just one small teaspoon of milo) and she just LOVES it! She doesn't have it every day, but if she's having a fussy eating day, I'll offer her one because it fills her up & also it has the extra vitamins etc. If you're worried about Will not getting enough calcium, perhaps you could try that? Milo has calcium also, so double benefit!

That is great he's also started wanting to use the toilet/potty again. IKWYM about the confusion regarding what type of TT thing to use. Even though Claire has showed no signs of being ready, I was thinking about it the other day (I'm very much over the nappy change tantrums!!) and I just have no idea which is the best way to go. I really need to have a search through the TT threads here. I did see a Dora toilet seat cover in Kmart today. It was only $12.95 too, which I thought was good. Maybe we'll head that way??

Hayley, I have been thinking about you!! I am so sorry you've still been sick! I was holding out hope for you the past few days because you'd been somewhat better. Cooper is such a beautiful boy, isn't he?!! What a lovely little man looking after his mummy so well!!!

Ange!!! Well hey there stranger!! I'm not sure about tips for cutting out the milk. Maybe you could try watering it down gradually?

Lou, how's your trip at the snow going? Oh, I am sooo envious!! That's one thing I do miss about living in Canberra - being so close to the snow. I loved reading about Maddi's snowsuit! I can't wait to see pics! I bet she is the cutest little snow bunny around!! And what a good girl trying on all those suits too, BTW! Claire would never in a million years have done that! I doubt I'd have even bothered trying!

Cath, OMG! That is such a gorgeous pic of Will!!! What a sweet little boy! You poor thing, being so tired. I hope Paddy is being a good sleeper for you, although I'm sure he is! Hopefully you can get some decent sleep & be back to feeling normal again soon.

Anna, WOW! This must be the longest time you've been MIA! lol Come on! I'm missing your Alex & The Girls stories! And yes, I'm in agreement too - Alex definitely looks like you. I hope you are well. Try & take it easy, you've had a very full-on few months!

Not much out of the ordinary been happening here. Claire can now count to ten almost every time. In fact this afternoon when she woke up from her nap, She was counting her teddy bears and she made it all the way up to twelve! I was so surprised, as we've never really made a concsious effort to count higher than 10 with her, so I'm not sure where she picked that up, but she was very confident! And before you ask, no she doesn't have 12 teddy bears in bed with her - she counted several more than once! lol

We still haven't found a new place yet, although Dave's boss has put in an offer on a house. Unfortunately it's not exactly what we're after (it's residential, not acreage & only has one bathroom) but we'll see how we go. From what I understand of it, they're putting in offers substantially lower than the asking price, and have already had one offer knocked back, so they may not get it anyway.

OH! And a week or so ago, Owen started rolling! There's no stopping him now! His motor skills development has so far been roughly on par with Claire's so it'll be interesting to see if he's an early crawler/walker too... oh god help us!! lol

Ange&Seth
31-07-2007, 22:02
Awwww - fanks guys. It's nice to be missed!!! I miss you guys heaps too :kiss:

Nothing much going on here. I've delved into the world of cloth - well, I've bought a cloth nappy and have another one to try - just waiting for the bloody woolen covers to dry :mad:

There is absolutely nothing else happening in our lives :no: we're boring as!!

Seth is starting to try us - just being a little imp - but hey who's kids aren't huh ? and those of you who say 'mine isn't' - well, just you wait :devil6:

I'll try and post more often guys - you all just talk too much!! It's too hard to keep up !!!!!!
talk soon!!!!

Wivi
01-08-2007, 10:34
Morning all,

Hi Fi! Good to hear from you. Will can just about count to ten as well -this week he likes to leave out 7 and 3 but remembers when you ask him to start again. I'm sucha proud mummy for that one.

Well - I'm not too sure about the no bottle thing now. Will did wake up in the night last night and asked for his cup. He had a big drink of water before he happily lay down and went to sleep. I'm not sure if it was bottle related or not as it was quite warm here last night (and he was dressed for cold) and we had this soup for dinner that seemed to make us all thirsty. I guess I'll just give it another go tonight and see what happens.

I have tried Milo Fi - and he spat it out. That was a few weeks ago. I could try it again I guess. He's just not a dairy kid. He rarely eats cheese or yoghurt and even custard is losing its appeal lately! I must admit that I don't really worry about it as Troy doesn't eat dairy much and Will is really good with fruit and vege so I figure that he is doing pretty well all up.

I think most people say it takes a few days for kids to start to drink their milk out of a cup and just to be consistent. I'm just sick of the bottle and I think it is really because that just seems to be one more thing I have to remember when we go out or away. The less the better I think! I've even started thinking about the whole big bed thing (only so I can ditch the portacot) but Troy's not keen so I'll lay off that one for a bit! I am such a lazy Mummy aren't I?

YAY for Owen rolling! What a clever little man. Your kids are such active mites - were you or Dave busy little people?

OK had better go - left Will with toast in his highchair. He was up a bit early this morning (about 7, no biggie) but I think he is a bit tired.

Seeya!

cath
01-08-2007, 10:37
Hello there,
Welcome Mel. How scary about the breath holding thing -we don't have a breath holder here - just a headbutter -Paddy headbuts really hard surfaces like concrete floors when he has tantrums sometimes which is a real worry. Kids are nuts is all I can say. No real advice on the weaning thing -I weaned Paddy at 12 months and thought he would carry on about his feeds being replaced by a bottle but he didn't care at all. You never know your luck -maybe Bayli will be fine too.

Ange good to see you on here again. Good luck with the cloth nappies. I will be starting to think about the toilet training thing here sometime soon I think (probably take me 6 months to get around to it but I am thinking about it). Paddy's nappies seem ridiculously huge now compared to Will's - so funny. Paddy seems to have replaced eating dinner with milk this week too. Paddy has been a total nightmare with his eating for 3 months now -it is still driving me nuts. Oh well -I guess milk is good for them. I have a friend whose daughter wouldn't eat but also wouldn't drink milk -not good!!

Fi how cute that Owen is rolling -I love when they start to do that. I am so looking forward to seeing all the milestones happen again with Will.

Hayley that's great you are with your Mum again. What is Trent doing in PNG? I was born in PNG (my Dad is an engineer and was building a dam over there).

Tan that's great about Will's progress with the TT -it has inspired me a bit (but as I said will probably take me months to get around to it). Good work trying the milk out of a cup thing too -they slowly get used to it -took a while for Paddy to drink decent quantities. I love the image of Will just letting the milk dribble out of his mouth - hilarious - that's what Paddy does with his dinner (which I don't find quite so funny).

All is going well here. Still waiting for the bigger chunks of sleep at night but surely they are on the way. I feel okay today (have good and bad days). Paddy seems to have stopped lashing out at Will so much and has only been giving him kisses in the last few days which is nice. Poor Dean has had his Boston trip taken away from him (big,big boss ended up saying no). I am sort of happy about it because it means I don't have to pack up half the house to go and live with my parents. Dean installed our dishwasher on the weekend and it has made an amazing difference to our lives -why didn't we get one years ago!! Anyway -Will is wkaing up for a feed and Paddy will be back in a minute (Dean's Dad came over and took him out for a bit - so nice). Chat soon.

BoyCrazy
01-08-2007, 11:53
Hi guys!
Thanks heaps for your lovely welcomes and advice! Its so good to actually know that some of the things bayli has been doing are normal lol...keeps me a little bit saner lol!!!

I have to figure out how to change one of bayli's pics into an avatar for my posts, plus i can then show off the little man (not quite little, already just over 3 feet tall !!!)

Anyways, before i start rambling, just wanted to say hi, and hope to get to know you guys over the months to come!

Cheers and have a great day!
Mel & bayli!

Moorish
01-08-2007, 12:24
Hi my lovelies!

I am still around and I'm trying to catch up where I can. Shane and I have been busy this week with school and trying to get some odd jobs done as it's most likely going to be his last week home :crying:. We've been spending lots of time together while we can and tonight we're all going out to dinner at our favourite Italian restaurant with my dad, his partner, my aunty & cousins & my 2 brothers for my dad's birthday. I dare say there won't be room for a pram (it's a small restaurant) but plenty of arms to cuddle Alex! I'll try and get some photos if I can - I've been so slack and really don't have many new ones yet (not to mention we ran down both camera batteries & the charger wasn't plugged in properly so they never recharged!)

Alex still has jaundice so I'll get him checked at the clinic tomorrow, and he's also broken out with a nasty hormone rash so it looks like he has pimples all over his poor little face. Nicola got it too when she was a baby and it cleared up after a few weeks. Wonder if it's something I'm eating or if it's purely hormones??

Oh I've been having huge headaches lately and I don't know why. They're lasting all day and starts again first thing in the morning. I'm living on panadol at the moment.
I had my physio appointment the other day with the womens specialist and the 1/2 hour turned into an hour appointment! She was so lovely and thorough and stayed back for my appointment as a one off! I broke out in tears again (I'm such a sook, honesly Anna!) but we discussed a plan of action on how to fix things. She didn't want to do an internal just yet but might do later just to see how those muscles are all going. She did an ultrasound on my bladder and made me do all sorts of pelvic floor exercised both laying down & standing up. It was so cool to see them moving! I've never been so relieved in my life! She was really surprised and quite pleased that the muscles were working so well 3 weeks post labour and said I was able to hold them very well (gold star moment for my pelvic floor muscles!! :yelclap: )
As for the prolapse cervix however, it's more of a time thing for it to fix itself as all the tendons holding the uterus are very lax. My 6 week check up with the OB will determine where we go from here - either more time or operation. At this stage (3.5 weeks post), nothing has changed and it's still sitting in the same position it was after the birth :(. However, whatever happens, I'm going to need a good strong pelvic floor to support it all afterwards. (Plus it makes for great sex so I was told! :D)

Anyway, sorry for the babble and the lack of personals today - I have a thumper headache, DH has gone to a family friend's funeral, the girls all need naps before we go out and Alex is due for a feed.
Please forgive my absence these next few days - hopefully by next week I'll have a little more time!

Oh a BIG welcome to Mel! We're usually a VERY chatty bunch here - 2 of the culprits have just had babies so you might find it nice and peaceful joining in at the moment! Looking forward to getting to know you and can't wait to see a picture of your little man!

Love you all!
xoxo

Ange&Seth
01-08-2007, 12:53
Hi guys :wave:

How has everyone's day been? Seth cut his hand so I had my first 'patch up' moment :o betadine ointment and a band aid LOL. Was kinda funny - I kissed his hand after I put the band aid on and said 'all better' and he was then walking around kissing his hand!! It wasn't a bad cut - he wasn't upset about it or anything, just very matter-of-fact when he walked up holding his hand out for me to see.

Oh and we made play dough this morning too. Seth had fun watching me make it and trying to help stir but when it came time to actually PLAY with it, he decided he'd rather play with his cars :rolleyes: I bought a container specifically to put it in though so it hopefully doesn't dry out too much. I'm going to make some more though so he's got all different colours. At the moment, I've only got red and yellow colouring.

Fi - How cool that Owen is rolling!!! Awww you guys are gonna make me clucky :mad: LOL.

Cath - that's good that Paddy has been more gentle with Will lately. I think that's one thing I worry about with Seth and a baby, but I guess they learn don't they?

Better go get some stuff done while Seth's asleep. Talk to you all soon.

ETA - Anna I hope things smooth out soon for you!

Katcha
01-08-2007, 13:24
Hi everyone, just a quick one cos I'm not feeling all that great. We've all got colds here, & I think MS might be starting soon. Kept feeling a bit queasy on & off yesterday. Haven't felt it at all today though.
James took Katelyn to the hospital yesterday morning just to get her checked out. She's got a cough & did have a fever, and after her little episode a while ago with pneumonia we weren't taking any chances.
Ange, it's great to see you back here! And welcome Mel. :)

hayleylea
02-08-2007, 08:26
Hi guys

Good to see everyone is still around.

Fi - Congrats on Owen Rolling! thats great!!

Anna - hope things settle down for you soon!

Cath - Cute new avatar pic of Paddy! Glad to hear he is being gentler now too with Will. Trent is in PNG looking at a job offer he has been made. Yes that would mean moving to PNG which im not keen on. They are telling him how much money etc today...I dont think it will be enough to get me to move over there. Especially with a new born. Im not real happy about the whole thing to be honest. Ive been really stressed out which makes me feel worse with the ALL day sickness....but i guess we will see by the end of the day what our options are.

Ange - good to see you posting in here. Ive talked to you now and again on MSN..i actually just logged on hoping to catch you but i think today you go to playgroup?!

sorry guys have to cut this short not feeling to crash hot...

Oh Mel...cant wait to get to know you guys better!

Wivi
02-08-2007, 13:23
Hello everyone!

Nice to hear from you again Hayles. PNG is a big thing to consider. Trent must be interested though to actually go there and check it out. I actually do know a few people who have lived and worked in PNG and contrary to what I thought it actually is a very civilised place with reasonable medical facilities. Nothing replaces family though so I know it is a tough decision!

Hi Ange - hope Seth's little hand is ok today. I am sure Nurse Ange made it all better though.

Renee - ooh I hope the dreaded MS is not visiting too much at your place! You have far too much to be busy with already without that as well! I hope Katelyn is doing ok too - you don't want any more nasty bugs.

Anna - glad your trip to the physio wasn't all that bad. My bragging moment in life relates to my tummy muscles too. Apparently I have quite amazing tummy muscles - they separated when I was PG but joined up again within 5 days after I had Will. I can honestly say that I am no exercise fiend so those muscles must be pretty special! HAHA! The prolapse doesn't sound good though - I hope it can resolve itself for you.

Well - my funny moment for the day relates to Will's talking. For about 2 weeks now he has been saying something that sounds like "Akoo" whenever he gives us something or wants us to take something from him. We have had no idea what he was saying and when we were in the car today he asked for his cup. After he had a drink he said "Akoo" and all of a sudden I wondered if he was saying "thank you". So I asked him and he nodded and said "AKOO!". LOL. Poor kid -has been trying to say thank you for weeks and we have been saying "What? Don't know what you are saying!". Now Anna - if you tell me that you knew what "Akoo" was I am going to scream.

Oh and no bottle again last night. He drank about 4 mouthfuls out of a cup and then refused anymore but he didn't wake up at all. I guess it is no bottles for Will now! YAY!

Cath - after my initial excitement with the TT thing I haven't actually done anything about it again. I should really get off my butt I suppose but I am so busy with everything else at the moment that I really can't be bothered running Will to the loo/potty every hour like someone suggested to me. Oh well - we'll see what happens.

Alrighty - gotta go. Will is still asleep and it's way past my "rule" of 2pm!

hayleylea
02-08-2007, 13:44
Tan - thanks for your insight about your friends living and working in PNG. For me though i just dont think its the right timing etc. Ive only talked to him this morning and so far he is loving it.....so it looks like there will be some serious talking going on when he gets back tommorrow. I just honestly dont know what to think. He is seriously considering it IF the money is good enough which will be discussed today. I have read some pretty awful things about Port Moresby and its probably not my ideal place to be with my family for a couple of years or so...so yeah stressfull times in my mind at the moment. We will get through it..no use stressing to much till we actually know whats going on.

AKOO - how cute!!! Thats great he didnt have a bottle again too! Cooper is way too attached to his bottle yet to get rid of it. And the way im feeling at the moment i dont want to fight with him lol. So It may be a little while yet for us!

OK better get going..

cath
02-08-2007, 20:02
Hi there,
was going to post properly but Will has just woken and needs a bath -I'll get back on tomorrow. Just changed my avatar to include the 2 boys. Don't know if it has worked but will have to fix it tomorrow if it's no good. Hope everyone is well.

cath
03-08-2007, 12:47
Hi again,
Anna how did your dinner for your dad's birthday go? Hope you had a nice night. What did the nurse say about Alex's jaundice -hope all is okay. I had a killer headache the other day that lasted 24 hours and after trying Panadol, then Panadeine all day by 3am when I was up for after feeding Will I resorted to taking a Panadeine Forte which finally got rid of it (sometimes I need a really strong pain killer to get rid of my headaches - I figured that they were happy to give me PF in hospital after the caesarean so must be okay to take the odd one). We are probably getting headaches due to dehydration and tiredness(that's my theory anyway) -the little boys are sucking everything out of us. Hope yours have disappeared. Well done with your pelvic floor muscles. I hope the prolapse rights itself -your poor body has gone through quite a battering - you have carried and given birth to four babies - you have done very well. Best of luck getting everything back to how it should be -men have it so lucky.

Ange that is so cute about Seth kissing his own hand once you had fixed it up. I am very impressed that you made playdough -is Seth playing with it?

Renee hope the colds aren't too bad and that MS is staying away.

Hayley that would be a pretty full on thing to do to go and live in PNG. What's the latest update? Hope you are doing okay.

Tan how cute about the "akoo". Think we need to get on to Paddy with that a bit more - he has no manners whatsoever (but he will pass you things when asked and picks things up sometimes if he knocks them off the table - he is not a total caveman which is nice).

I had to take Will to the Dr yesterday to get his "clicky hip" checked out. He has had it since being born. The Dr said he didn't think it was anything to worry about but I have to take him for an ultrasound -poor little man. He is feeding heaps and I have already noticed that he has put on weight -he is getting a double chin and has a chubby line on his legs now -cute -think he is going to end up being a chubby baby like Paddy was for a while. Paddy has definitely started to like his little brother and when he came home from being at my Mum's yesterday ran straight past me (usually I get a big cuddle) to go and see Will and gently gave him kisses. Mum said when she took him out in the pram at her place he kept going around the back to see where his little brother was and looked puzzled that he wasn't there like he now is in the pram at home when we go out.

Anyway I'd better go and try and clean up this bombiste a bit. Have a good weekend everyone.

hayleylea
03-08-2007, 14:26
Cath - No update yet about the PNG thing at the moment. Im absolutley furious (just quietly) I have barely heard from Trent the last few days and im so angry about it. I was saying to Ange that i think i have a new name for myself and its not bridezilla but PREGZILLA...im so mad! I just cant believe he is putting this much stress on me at this stage of my pregnancy etc....MEN!!!! :hair: (sorry for the rant guys im just a bit upset today!) Im picking him up from the airport at 5.10 So i guess we will go from there and hopefully be able to talk about this situation.

To top it all off im now at home without my mum and Cooper is so upset because she has gone home...and is being so naughty and is so upset and i feel really sick (WHINGER ARENT I!)

Anyway sorry for the rant guys.

Talk soon.

Wivi
03-08-2007, 16:51
Hello again,

Oh Hayles - you are welcome to whinge! I think I would be very stressed out if I were you as well. Especially as you are not feeling well and from what I remember your early days with Cooper were pretty tough too so the thought of going to PNG with a toddler and a newborn would be very difficult! Have a good chat to Trent when he gets home and I am sure you can sort it out.

Cath - I've been forgetting to say how great it is that Paddy has resumed his loving ways towards Will. Just gorgeous. They are going to be the best of friends when they grow up.

Will has been a little grumpy boy today. The on-line tresillian nurse thinks it has something to do with me removing the bedtime bottle and it may take him a week or so to settle down again. I thought about giving it back to him but then I thought that just means I have to psych myself up all over again so I'll just persist and hope that he drinks his milk out of a cup soon. She did say that not drinking milk from a cup is actually quite common, but I should just continue to persist. In the meantime apparently I need to be more conscious about making sure he gets enough calcium. Honestly, as if you don't have enough to worry about with a toddler!

No new words today and I should be getting off here as I left Will eating custard in his highchair and he is suspiciously quiet - probably concenctrating very hard on putting custard in his hair or something.

hayleylea
03-08-2007, 17:02
well Trent wont be home tonight....he has only just left bloody brisbane!!!!! The flight from PNG got delayed because of a plane fault and they had to send another one. So now im home alone...sick as..with a cranky cranky Cooper!!! I have no idea how im going to get up to him in the morning by myself because i spend most of it with my head in a bucket!

bingo
04-08-2007, 15:17
:snow: Hi guys! We're back! :snow:
Well the trip was great. Maddi was a gem in the car (thank god for the last minute DVD purchase) both on the way up there and the way back. Even we were sick of driving. The apartment was teeny tiny and a disappointment to say the very least. We couldn't even fit the porta cot in the room so in the end Maddi slept in the double bed with me and DH slept on the floor in the lounge area. VERY romantic :thumbsdown: . But anyways it was nice to get away from the usual four walls and spend some time in the snow. Maddi slept really well up there and had a great time. She is unfortunately an adrenlaine junkie, the faster the taboggon went the better for her. All you could hear on the taboggon was "wow-weeeeeeee" and then at the bottom "AGAIN". It was good exercise climbing to the top of the hill especially with toddler in tow.
DH and I took it in turns to snowboard and babysit. Boarding by yourself just isn't as much fun. But its still great.
Snowman making didn't really cut it for Maddi. She just wanted to knock down whatever we built, she loved that the best. She really enjoyed watching the skiers and the snowboarders wizz past and kept asking whats that! So we decided that next year she is going to be trying out skiing for the first time.
Check out these photo's
family (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=snow7.jpg)
me teaching Maddi the basics of boarding (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=snow6.jpg)
there's a camera - where? (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=snow4.jpg)
smile (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=snow3.jpg)
snowboarding stance (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=snow2.jpg)
taboggon (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=snow1.jpg)
So as you can see she had a fantastic time and we can't wait to go again when she is a bit older.
Well I have to go and keep trying to put stuff away. Its like a bomb hit this place. I'll try and catch up on everyone's posts tonight if I can stay awake. Had a good sleep in this morning so I should be right for it!

Wivi
04-08-2007, 19:11
Hi guys,

Am too stuffed to write a decent post right now- it has been a big day.

Lou - I love your pics at the snow and how gorgeous is Maddi in that snow suit! Red is definitely her colour! What a bugger about the room though. Not even enough space for the portacot! That's tiny! You guys look like you had an absolute ball though, Maddi is going to be one of those kids who skis like a pro by the time she is 3!

Alright - gotta go, write a decent post tomorrow I promise!

bingo
05-08-2007, 07:43
Well I've tried to catch up on everyone and I hope I remember everything. Where is everyone this weekend?
I finally managed to get everything put away yesterday and I even managed to cook roast lamb mmmmmm. Since we have got back it seems like Maddi has grown up overnight. She just seems to be more and more girly everyday.
While we were away we got some bad news. My Grandma passed away on the Wednesday. All her children managed to make it to her bedside in time which was nice. Whilst I knew it was coming and we had been expecting it for months it still doesn't make it any easier. She was my last remaining grandparent :crying: .But now we know she is at peace and with my Grandpa. My Mum is going to spend a little more time over there tidying things up and to spend a bit of time with her sisters then she will be coming home. :yelclap: . I imagine when she gets back she will be spending a fair bit of time with Maddi.

Oh Hayley I can understand your reservations about moving to PNG. Hopefully when Trent gets back you can have a good chat about it all. What does Trent do again? He must be good at his job if they want him over there? Nice compliment for him. How did you manage with cooper and MS this morning?
Welcome Mel! I love Bayli's name and how you spell it. When I was pregnant with Maddi we joked about if we had a boy we would call him Bailey because of my outstanding cravings for the stuff. As for the tanty thing I have read about toddlers holding their breath until they pass out. Its quite common so I've heard, but geez it must freak you out. Maddi has quite good tanties and usually its because she's tired or hungry. I'm slowly learning to try and figure it out before they happen. I've been trying to teach Maddi to tell me that she's angry or whatever. When she's really mad she throws stuff at the ground. When she does that I get down at her level and tell her to take some deep breaths instead. I don't know if its working but it makes me feel better taking those breaths with her :laughing: . As for weaning BF I weaned Maddi when she was 8 months. I would pick one feed that I wanted to drop and every 2nd day drop it, then once she was happy with that change it to everyday. Then I would move onto the next feed. I think if you cut out all of them at once your boobs might hurt with the excess milk.
Fi, Claire counting to 10 is phenomonal. How clever is she! I've been trying to teach Maddi to count but she's a 1,5,8 and 10 girl. And Owen rolling over too. Time is flying by! I hope that the house hunting is progresing a bit better for you guys. When do you have to be out? I can't remember.
Tan, thats awesome about Will wanting to use the toilet. Pretty soon he will be nappy-less. Wow! Maddi's potty training went out the window as soon as she went to creche. They just didn't persist with it and I didn't push it either. And the times I've let her run around without a nappy lately she just makes a puddle on the floor and giggles her head off. Cheeky bugger. Good luck with getting rid of his milk bottles. Maddi is still having 3 a day and I know I should cut them out but because she doesn't have dairy I'm hesitant to reduce her milk.
Anna and Cath, your poor heads. Headaches with children don't really go together do they. I hope they ease off for you both. Maybe you need some vigorous neck/shoulder massaging? When BF it can really knot up those muscles which cause headaches. And like Cath said maybe dehydration? Anna maybe you could stick your tens machine on to help out? DH bought one recently and I use it on my neck. At the time I thought it was useless but when I got up the next day my frozen neck had gone.
Anna, how did Alex go with his jaundice? did you have a nice dinner out with everyone? That sounds like a fun evening. How's Maddi's mate Immy going? I've been meaning to ask you how things have been going with your mum recently since the whole not helping out thing happened? Did you have a "chat" to her about it.
Cath that is so cute about Paddy and Will. Watch out pretty soon they will be banding together and causing all sorts of trouble. :D . How is the sleep going these days? Has Will sorted out his day and night sleeps yet?
Ange, so good to see you back on here. Its been ages. I love that avatar of Seth in the bath, he's just got this real cheeky look about him in that photo.
Renee, how is Katelyn? I saw on the news that influenza A outbreak in canberra. Its so scary. I went out and bought a shopping trolley cover thing for Maddi yesterday as I figure I want to do everything I can to prevent her from getting any of those bad flu's. How is the baby bump coming along?

Well I hope that everyone pops on today, its pretty lonely in here when everyone doesn't appear.

cath
05-08-2007, 13:14
Hi again,
Welcome home Lou. So sorry to hear about your Grandma. I hope your Mum is doing okay. It will be lovely for you to have her back again sometime soon. Your snow photos are fantastic. Maddi is such a little ski bunny -she looks absolutely gorgeous!! I just love her hair and her little suit -what a cool little look. How annoying about the apartment.

Hayley how are you doing? You poor thing feeling so sick and having to deal with Cooper on your own - I feel for you. I was one cranky wife on Friday night as well but that is a whole other story.

Tan how is the milk thing going. The cup we give Paddy his milk in before he goes to bed is actually quite bottle like so that might be worth a go for Will. It is a Tomee Tippee Nuby one that you can get from Coles -the top bit has a silicone spout on it and really it isn't all that far removed from a bottle. Paddy drinks milk out of a cup during the day as well but we give him this Tomee Tippee one at night because it is no spill and means we can get stuff organised without having to supervise that Paddy isn't tipping his milk all over the place (which he likes to do just for the fun of it).

Will still hasn't made it past 3 hourly feeds at night (that's start time to start time and he now feeds for 30-40 minutes at a time so include a nappy change and some settling and I am up for pretty much an hour and then get my precious 2 hour block of sleep if I'm lucky before I'm up again). He is ramping up his feeds during the day too and is often feeding 2 hourly -he is getting a great double chin. Am I repeating myself -think I might be - sorry. Anyway I will shut up about that now. All is good and he is beautiful and worth the sleep deprivation.

My cranky wife story from Friday night is that Dean spent over 5 hours at the pub on Friday afternoon when he was meant to be at work which I was far from impressed about. He works from an office closer to home on a Friday and has done so for about a year with the plan being that he will get home closer to 6pm rather than 7pm like he normally does so I can get Paddy to bed earlier and generally have some help around here at that time (which as everyone knows is not a fun time to manage on your own). Anyway this plan has never quite come to fruition (well maybe 4 times in the last year has he got home earlier) and mostly that is becuase he goes to the pub for lunch with some work mates and then stays there all bloody afternoon before deciding at about 5pm they should go back and do some work so he still comes home at 7. Anyway at 6:15 on Friday I was feeding Will with a cranky Paddy sitting next to me demanding that I draw car-cars,nanna, mumma,dadda (he requests things to be drawn) over and over and I was doing my best (with my left hand when I am right handed) but if I couldn't do it right when he siad it he would crack it and throw the texta across the room or start drawing on the couch. I was bloody exhausted and it was all getting a bit much. I sent a text to Dean asking if he would be home soon and got no reply so I rang him after about 10 minutes and heard that pub sounds in the background. By blood started boiling. I said "are you still at the pub" and he said in panicked sort of tone "I will be home soon" -I said "no you won't -you will be at least 45 minutes" and just hung up. Then I get a text a couple of minutes later apologising and telling me he was running home. I was in tears by this point. What an a**hole. I have a 3 week old baby and a demanding toddler and am getting bugger all sleep and he spends all afternoon at the pub not thinking - maybe I could go home early instead and help out!! I swear I have never been so furious. He arrived a bit after 7 looking very sheepish and when I started crying then he started crying and I told him to pull it together and give Paddy a bath and get him to bed. I couldn't look or speak to him and it took me until about 9:30 to speak about it. He was very apologetic etc. and bought me flowers yesterday but I think I will still be mad really for the rest of the week (if not longer). It is so not fair sometimes that men have it all so easy and can just continue their normal lives. I know that Dean has been doing lots of extra stuff and is disappointed he didn't get to go to Boston and has concerns about work/money etc. and deserves to have some fun but isn't 2 hours of fun enough rather than 5 hours. At least he gets some fun -where's my fun? Anyway there's a big vent for you all. I vented to my best friend about it yesterday too. Still not over it. I'll get there and we will be okay but he has a bit to prove. Oh to be a man.

Gotta go. Paddy needs attention. Chat soon.

bingo
05-08-2007, 13:42
Cath - sister - I hear you loud and clear! Oh how many times I have had that thought "oh to be a man". I guess it doesn't matter how many bunches of flowers they buy you all you want is for them to just do what their supposed to. I constantly get the excuse "if you just asked me". Last time that sentence got uttered I yelled back " I don't want to have to ask, you should just know!". I did utter a sigh when you said that Dean started crying when you did. What a softie! He definitely knew he was in big, big poo. When Tony is in the poo he'd never cry, he'd just duck and cover and hide in the corner. The thing that annoys me the most is the ability to just ring up and say "oh I'm going to be home late because so and so wants to meet for a few drinks". Us mums have too much to think about like dinner for the kids and getting them bathed and ready for bed. Oh boy I could go on for hours Cath - don't get me started. Just wanted to let you know your not alone and that I too have those similar thoughts.

Wivi
05-08-2007, 13:50
Afternoon all,

Firstly - big :hugs: to both Cath and Lou. I am so sorry to hear about your grandma Lou although I guess this does mean that your Mum will be able to come home soon and that is a lovely thing. Your grandma is not suffering anymore either and that is a real blessing.

Oh Cath - I so feel for you! Friday must have had full moon or something! Troy swapped his work days last week so that he could work Friday and then go straight from work to the company dinner. I was quite surprised in that Will was actually very good despite the fact that he asked about 25 times between 6:30 and 7pm for Daddy. He went off to bed just fine which I was very relieved about. But yes - I would be very annoyed with Dean too. Men just don't think sometimes. I did find it cute that he cried too though - he must have some compassion there. Just so very thoughtless. I only survived times like that when Will was little by knowing that I could dump him and run to the shops or something for a few hours every now and then but he was a bottle fed bub and I know most people don't have that option. You must be exhausted. While I am sure it is lovely that Will is growing so well - a bit of a longer break at night would be very appreciated! I hope you get some sleep soon. Will he take a bottle of EBM? Could Dean to an earlyish feed for you that way so you could get a longer sleep? Just a suggestion - not sure if it is helpful at all.

Yes - I wonder how Hayley is. I hope she is feeling ok and that she could have a good chat to Trent about the PNG thing. I don't know what it is about our men lately. They are all being so thoughtless!

Oh - the milk thing is a no go at all here! Will is just not drinking any. He had one sip last night before "Noooo". I have looked at those cups Cath and thought about getting one. I don't think I will though given the pile of cups I already bought in the past that are not being used. I couldn't bear to waste another one!

Hm - I am getting a bit worried about Anna. She has been quiet for too many days. I hope everything is going ok.

Yesterday we had a great day. We went down to Wollongong for the afternoon to help celebrate Troy's grandparent's 60th Wedding Anniversary. Let me tell you - Will had an absolute ball. And he ate all afternoon - he is such a piggy sometimes. Some of Troy's cousins have children as well and although Will was the smallest one there he ran around with the big kids, kicking the ball and generally having lots of fun. We stayed all afternoon - gave him some dinner and jumped in the car to come home at around the time he would normally go to bed. I don't think we had been driving for longer than 5 minutes before we heard his little snores! Troy took him to church this morning and he had a 2.5 hour sleep when they came home so I guess he was nice and tired. He was really good yesterday though - I was very proud of him!

Ah well - I should get off here, I am being lazy today because I have a really sore back and I don't know why. Troy is being very helpful though which is making a big difference.

Chat soon.

hayleylea
05-08-2007, 13:53
Hey guys

just a quick one from me to say Lou im soooo sorry to hear about your Grandma. Even though you knew it was coming its still a hard time :hugs: i havent had a chance to check out Maddis pics but will do it soon.

Cath - GRRRRR at your Dean. Let him keep making it up to you! men just dont understand sometimes!!!

Trent and I are still discussing PNG he gets told how much tommorrow. Im still a bit in limbo about it all. I just dont like the idea of going over there....ive been a bit down about it all but ill make a final decision when i know how much money etc it is. Its hard because he is all for it....and if its the money he wants then it could set us up but i just think its a pretty big step to take to live over there!! AGGGHHHHHHH seriously guys my mind is everywhere and its not good for the baby so ill stop rambling.

OK better go talk soon guys!

Moorish
05-08-2007, 15:06
Hi girls,

Lou I'm so very sorry to hear about your grandma. She's in a much better place now and she'll be happy with your grandpa. I hope your mum can rest well now knowing that she gave her mum as much comfort as possible in her last days. I'll bet you can't wait for her to come home - Maddi will be a giant to her now!

I just wanted to pop in and say that for now. I'm going to try and come back on tomorrow but for now I have to go clean up some stuff before Alex needs a feed.
It's Nicola's 4th birthday today and we had 10 kids at the AMF bowling alley for a bowling party! It was just brilliant and all the kids (and parents!) had a BALL! We had 10 additional adults have a game while the kids were playing and it was just wonderful. Must go put some pressies away and clean up before Shane's parents come down to visit. All my kids have flaked and are taking naps - even Chelsea! Oh I can't wait to tell you more and catch up on everyone!
Love you!
xoxo

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NICOLA :hugs: (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=1765192#post1765192)

bingo
05-08-2007, 15:08
happybirthday HAPPY BIRTHDAY NICOLA!!!happybirthday

Wivi
06-08-2007, 08:51
Hey there!

I hope Nicola had a lovely 4th birthday yesterday Anna. What a great Mum you are to go to all that trouble even though you have a newborn to look after. I am sure she appreciated it.

Will has turned into such a tv junkie lately. It does not impress me one bit. He wants to watch it when he decides he is bored with his toys or if one of us isn't prepared to play with him. I have to admit I try really hard to limit it but he seems to ask almost incessantly to watch something. His next favourite activity is to go outside. He is quite happy to do whatever out there as long as I am sitting out there somewhere. Can someone tell me when kids can/do play by themselves a bit more??

Sorry guys, I've got my sooky pants on today. I think it's because my back is still killing me and it doesn't matter how much sleep I have (quite a lot in the last few days) I still feel tired and I think it is because of my silly back. If it doesn't improve in the next day or so I guess I'll be heading off to the physio.

Oh there is something going on here that I have been forgetting to tell you guys about. Ever since we bought our house we have talked about knocking down our old garage and putting up a new one with an office attached for Troy. We have also talked about attaching a new deck to the back of our house to replace the dodgy porch that is out there. WEll - it is actually happening now - we have a friend coming over to draw up the plans tomorrow night and a builder coming on Thursday to discuss the project. The whole thing will actually be quite large as there will be a carport, then a garage and then Troy's office plus a bathroom/laundry that has a toilet and a shower. We only have one tiny bathroom in our house and the toilet is in the bathroom so this new building will be guest accommodation as well. Troy went into council on Thursday to ask some questions about applications etc and so far it all looks good. Our current laundry is in a silly place in our house - towards the front and is the main entrance from the driveway (we don't really use our front door). Once the laundry is out of the way we can have a much nicer entrance to our house which is making me very happy! It will be a big project and cost quite a lot I think but we have been saving for it for a while, we know almost all the tradesmen and it will make things so much easier for everyone! It is very exciting. I should probably chat to Hayley about where to get bargains with tiles and flooring etc I guess.

So that is our big news for the moment. I think we will be living in a big mess for about a month or so while it is all happening but it will all be worth it. I might have to escape to the farm for a few days here and there as well - especially when they pull down our old garage as it has asbestos in it. Anyway - not starting yet - but it won't be too long hopefully!

OK - I have rambled on enough. Should let you all get on with things.

Where's Fi? She's gone all quiet lately....

MrsMiggins
06-08-2007, 12:09
Oh Cath! You poor thing! That is the total story of my life! And the reason Dave & I have been arguing so much lately. :( He goes to work & finishes at 5.30 & isn't home til like 7 - if we're lucky!! And his work is only 10 mins away, if that! He goes to the pub after work - not even drinking, he is pretty involved in the whole greyhound racing thing, so he's at the TAB - grrrrrr!!!!! It makes me so mad!! At least Dean was suitably apologetic - Dave just thinks I'm being a nagging housewife! I crack it at him just about every evening & still it never sinks in! And like today for instance - he has the day off, but instead of being home, spending time with me & the kids, or starting to do some pre-move work around here (of which there is PLENTY!!!) he's off playing golf. Now, I don't mind that he goes to play golf, but just not every day!! And I asked him this morning if he'd be home afterwards & he said yes (as he always does!) but he left at 7.30 this morning & he's still not home yet - no call, no text message, nothing. If he came straight home after playing, he should be here by now. I've got 10 bucks that says we don't see him here before dark! The thing that makes me even more cranky is that he never has his phone on him (leaves it in the car) so even if I call a hundred times, I can't get hold of him.

Sorry guys about that little vent!! It's just the bane of my existence ATM!!

Anyway! Sorry I've not been posting much. I've actually been keeping up with the posts, but still having computer issues, so it's a bit of a huge effort to create a post. Hopefully when we move, we'll be able to get broadband!

Well, the latest news on the move is that it's possibly on the cards for 1st Sept. Dave's boss has put an offer in on a house. It's much, (much, much!!) smaller than we'd ideally like, but it's not unlivable. The kitchen & bathroom (yes, only 1 bathroom!! Ugh!!) are atrocious, but he said he's happy to fix all that up for us (unfortuantely there'll still only be the one bathroom though!) There are some very ugly slate floors throughout most of the house too, but they're planning to tile it. On the plus side, there is a huge playroom area, the yard is a decent size & it's right across the road from a very nice creek. It's actually a sea inlet & so it's more like a beach than a creek & there's walking paths, parks, picnic areas etc, which is all very nice.

Hopefully we'll hear back shortly.

Lou, you guys sounded like you had so much fun at the snow!!! Maddi is just gorgeous in her snow suit! I loved the pics!! I agree, she will be one of those 3 year old snow bunny kids!! I'm so sorry to hear about your grandma. That is good news that her kids all made it to her side in time & also that your mum will be haeding back shortly.

Tan, you poor thing with your back! Back pain is the worst, isn't it?! Hopefully things improve for you soon! I'm not sure when kids start to play on their own more. Claire pretty much plays on her own now, but if she all of a sudden decides she wants me there (usually for no apparent reason!) then I'd better be there, or else tantrums ensue! I think she's pretty OK so long as she know's I'm there. She doesn't necessarily need me to be playing with her. Your renos sound very exciting!!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NICOLA!!!! Anna, I agree that you have done very well with her party! You make sure you get plenty of rest now, won't you!

Hayles, how nerve-wracking for you re: PNG. On the bright side, although it would be so, so hard moving over there, what an experience for the kids! Has Trent heard anything yet? I'm waiting with bated breath!!

OK, I have to run! I haven't eaten all day & I'm starting to feel a bit queasy from it!! Better get something to eat before the kids wake up (which should be any second now...)

MrsMiggins
07-08-2007, 12:55
Hmmmm..... did anyone take me up on my bet? If so, you owe me ten bucks! :laughing: Dave didn't get home til almost 6pm! I sent him a very snippy text message at about 4.30, but he didn't reply. Then when he got home, Claire was having tantrum #496 of the day & Owen was having a "little moment" as well. Considering I was already stressed out & angry at Dave, I was actually in tears when he walked in & OMG! I have never seen him so apologetic!! I was very surprised! He has been ever, ever so accommodating ever since! (Lucky for him!!)

Claire & Owen are both having a little sleep at the same time at the moment - AHHHHH..... BLISS!!!! It's wonderful! Although, Claire's been asleep for a little over 2 hours now, so she should be awake any second. She is pretty much 2 hours, spot-on for her naps these days.

Hope you're all well!! :hugs:

cath
07-08-2007, 13:21
Hello again,
Fi I hope Dave managed to get get home soon after you posted the other day. It is so annoying isn't it that they often just seem to continue with their lives while ours completely change. You totally deserve his help - you must be so busy on your own with your 2 little ones. Dean knows he was in the wrong and managed to get home early yesterday which was so good. I think he was trying to make an effort -he even folded some washing without being asked which is a miracle ( I commented on it and he said the magic fairy did it - I often say to him "who do you think will do that - the magic fairy?" if he leaves something to be done "later"). Good luck with the house situation.

Tan Paddy has decided he would happily watch tv all day too and I have to be firm with him sometimes and distract him with something else. He often tries to turn it on and requests for "ah bobo" (Bob the builder -his current favourite). I too am looking forwardto when he can happily play on his own -I mostly have to be involved at the moment. How exciting about the renovations. Have a look at some auction websites for cheap stuff. Grays on line has some cheap home renovation things (www.graysonline.com.au) and we got cheap carpet and Dean's parents got cheap tiles from Fowles auction group (don't know if they are just Victorian)but worth a look).

Anna I hope Nicola had a lovely birthday -she looked so grown up in her birthday photo. How is everything going for you. I can only just imagine how busy and tired your are.

Hayley the whole PNG thing sounds full on. Saw something on the news last night about riots in Port Moresby -doesn't look too inviting.

Lou thanks for your supportive post -nice to hear I am not alone. Sounds like we all experience similar things now and then.

Well I am having a shocking afternoon right now. Istarted this post ages ago and have been trying to get Paddy to sleep for an hour and a half and also trying to settle Will that whole time too (he finally seems to be asleep thank goodness). Paddy is currently crying and having a tantrum in his cot. He talked and yelled out Mumma for the first half hour and I went and checked on him and he had done a poo so changed his nappy and gave him a quick cuddle then back into bed. Then he started talking and finally crying so I went in half an hour later and cuddled him for a while and sang to him - thought he might just want to be babied and he would get sleepy. Anyway that obviously didn't work because he is now in there screaming. I am leaving him for another 10 mintues then will have to give up - looks like he might not be having a day sleep today. Man I need a break!! I had 2 friends and their little ones over here this morning and am now hanging for some quiet time. Oh well -not to be. Early nights for everyone tonight I think.

cath
07-08-2007, 13:23
Oh Fi -just read your post -how **** about the other day!! That is so wrong. I hope he spoils you for the rest of the month. Oh man - Paddy is still cracking it -gotta go

cath
07-08-2007, 13:56
Yep -no day sleep for Paddy today. Ended up bringing him back out and having cuddles with his quilt on the couch and quietly reading a book together. NOw at least he is still lying there on his own reading books. He is yelling out "mumma" every 5 minutes though and I have to take him another book -quite cute. Just took a movie and some pictures of it. Will post a picture in a minute.

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4335.jpg

Wivi
07-08-2007, 16:42
Oh my. Cath and Fi you sound so busy with your little ones. That is no good at all about NO day sleep Cath! I hope Paddy realises that no day sleep is not fun at all and goes back to having a nice little sleep for you tomorrow.

I can distract Will with some other activities as well to get him away from the tv. He is a bit obsessed with the Wiggles (DVD), Brum (DVD) and also that show on ABC called Poko? He loves it. It is a cute show and I don't really mind him watching but last night we had to tell him about 20 times before bed that Poko, Wiggles and Brum had all gone to bed for the night! LOL - he's too funny for words sometimes.

Well -you all made me really appreciate my hubby this week for being a no pub man. He never goes and is pretty much here between 5:15 and 5:30 on the days he does go to an office for work - and that is only Monday and Tuesdays. Yes at the moment there are lots of nights that he is not here and some Saturday appointments as well but he is around a lot more than what you guys have your hubbies home for. I have it pretty sweet I know. The revolving door can get a bit much though.

I had Will measured and weighed for the first time in 3 months today. He weighs about 13kg and is 86.5cm tall. So he is just a little above average for both but certainly not huge. I don't think he is going to be a shorty like me and that's all I was worried about!

Anyway -I should get off here. Tonight I am going out to dinner with some girlfriends, I am sooo excited!

bingo
08-08-2007, 18:51
HELLLOOOOO ANNA where are you??? Are you okay down there?
Hmm wonder what that girl is up to?

Cath that photo of Paddy is so cute. He looks snug as a bug. At least he was willing to sit quietly if he didn't want to have a sleep. Occasionally Maddi has a day when she won't have her day sleep and lordy she gets angry and upset and its a bad day for us all.
Hey do you guys watch E.R? How much action was in the episode this week! I was recording it but made the mistake of watching it while I was recording and of course I had to keep watching it. Needless to say I didn't get to bed until late that night.
Work this week has gone oh so slow. I think I've only just made it across the line today. My eye's just kept wanting to close. Is it just me or is everyone else the same this week?
Its been awfully quiet in here. I'm used to having to read pages of posts on Wednesday night and tonight its just the one. :eek:
Well not sure whats happening this week. Will have to wait and see how I feel. I think my Dad is coming up for a few days with my brother which will be nice as Tony is away in Melbourne for hockey all weekend. Only another 2 weekends and its all over!! :smiliedance:
I booked into another hairdresser to get my hair fixed. Don't remember if I told you but the last color and cut I got was terrible. The red highlights I had put in have turned this orange blonde color and they are in such obvious places. And it needs a really good cut, the color the girl used has dried it all up so the only way to fix it is to chop chop chop. I'll see what this new hairdresser says. Boy I hope this one is better.
TV is a problem for us too. Maddi is a tv addict I'm afraid. She has her own DVD collection that she carries around in her pink booklet. I'm trying to cut back the amount she watches but she is so insistent. Its like a chant some days. Its an alternate between The Wiggles, High-5, Maisey, Dora or Mike Labrowski (yep thats Monsters inc. she is in love with Mike and says his surname just like Boo). Actually come to think of it Maddi kinda looks like Boo.
OK I'm off to watch Macleods then House. Gee I wonder where Maddi gets her tv addiction from???

cath
08-08-2007, 19:07
Hi again,
Good luck with the haircut Lou -when are you getting in done? They stuffed up my last one too - it's annoying isn't it. Good to hear the hockey season is coming to an end for you. I've never watched ER but it looks like a show I would like. I was saying to Dean the other night that I wished I ahd watched it previously as I think it is a bit late for me to start watching now -I would have no idea of what's going on. Paddy's quiet time didn't last long yesterday unfortunately.

Tan how was your dinner out? Sounds good and only fair seeing as Troy went out the other night.

Well Paddy tried it on again today with the day sleep. He carried on for an hour and a half but I wasn't going to let him win and he finally gave up and went to sleep thank goodness. I really, really need him to have his day sleeps right now.

Will got checked out at the MCHN this afternoon and has put on 945g in 2 weeks which she said was close to the record she has seen (she has seen a baby put on a kilo in 2 weeks which is her biggest to date and Will came pretty close to that). He is obviously thriving - I knew he was getting chubby. Had a shocking night with him last night and didn't even get a 2 hour block of sleep in. Hopefully tonight will be better (I think it will be -he has had a more settled day which I think helps -sleep breeds sleep is my theory).

Anyway dinner is ready. Hope everyone is well -especially our missing people -Anna/Hayley hope you are both okay. Chat soon.

bingo
08-08-2007, 19:36
Whoa Cath, thats an impressive growth spurt! No wonder he's waking every 2 hours for a feed. Did your MHCN suggest supplementing his BF with formula? Will is certainly trying hard to catch up to Paddy.
What age do you think kids drop their afternoon nap? I hope its not anytime soon as I love that time out to refocus and gather my energy for the second part of the day.
My haircut isn't until next Thursday - I can't wait.

yes Hayley has been missing for a while too. Are you ok Hayley? :hugs:

BoyCrazy
09-08-2007, 07:44
Morning girls!
Just wanted to pop in and say hello, see how we all are...bub has got the sniffles and a bit of a cough, and Im sooo hoping its not that *****y flu thats going around, gonna go stock up at the chemists now!

On a positive not bub started to string words together a few days ago! im so stoked and he can almost jump up and down properly on the spot! i like milestones!
:thumbsup:

Hey Bingo, thankyou for the comments re bayli's name and spelling! I have always loved that name, but just thought it might be even nicer with a different twist!

Have a great day everyone, must go to get bubba some flu relief!

Oh and thanks heaps for the advice on the tantys and weaning too!!! muchly appreciated!

Mel & Bayli
:wave:

hayleylea
09-08-2007, 09:03
Hi guys i havent had time to catch up on all the posts i just wanted to let you all know im still alive....although some days i dont feel like i am!!!

SOme days i feel like im getting better then the next i have a horrible day - im hoping it ends soon!!!

anyway im thinking of you all and hope to catch up properly soon.:hugs:

MrsMiggins
09-08-2007, 13:26
No, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!! :eek: Oh Lou!!! Oh please tell me that you are not talking about ER on free to air tv?!!!! It is the only FTA show I watch and I am going to be the CRANKIEST person in the entire world if I've been missing episodes!!!! :crying: If so though, how many have I missed & what's been happening? And also what's its timeslot this season? Is it still on Wed nights? Oh! I'm going to be so upset if I've been missing it!!

lol I can't believe I'm making such a fuss over a tv show, but seriously, it's the only FTA TV show that I really love.

I was hoping to post & catch up properly (and not just babble on about ER :o) but both kids are starting to crack it! I'll have to catch up later!

bingo
09-08-2007, 16:23
Hi Fi, sad to say that yes indeed it was on FTA. But don't panic too much as it only started back this week so you've only missed 1. Yeah I'm addicted too! :laughing:
Check out these photo's of today:
chocolate cake (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=goodforthetummy.jpg)
they tell me its good for the skin too (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=itsgoodfortheskintoo.jpg)
Aww I think I ate too much (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=butIthinkIatetoomuch.jpg)
Sorry mummy about the mess (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=theytellmeitsgoodforyou.jpg)

Wivi
09-08-2007, 18:29
Hi everyone,

Cath - that's an enormous growth spurt! What a chubby bub you must have there. I know it's lovely to see that he is growing so well but I guess you were probably thinking a bit more sleep would be appreciated! I don't have any helpful advice or suggestions given that my Will was FF. Only that I have lots and lots of sympathy for you!

Hayley - I am sorry you are still not well. I miss you on MSN all the time and it's quiet in here without you too. I really hope you feel better soon and also that the PNG stuff gets sorted out and you feel happy with whatever decision you make.

Lou - thanks for your TV comments. Actually - thanks everyone for the comments. It's nice to know that it is normal for Will to be TV obsessed! I discovered today though that he can spend just as long deciding what dvd he wants to watch as he does watching it! We have 4 in total and he just loves looking at the covers over and over before eventually handing one over to watch it. It's pretty funny.

Hi Mel - that's cool about Bayli jumping. Will's version of a jump looks like skipping. It makes me laugh every time.

Speaking of my monkey - he has been a bit out of sorts today. I think he might be getting sick or the ridiculous pace of our house is getting to him. He was quite grumpy today with a really short attention span (like shorter than usual) and had a shorter sleep too. He has been sleeping pretty well in the day for the past 6 weeks or so (since he got rid of that horrible flu). Late this afternoon we had a builder come around about the garage/office thing and he brought his 2 little girls and they flapped around Will like mother hens which was all very exciting but I think a little stimulating for Will. Then they left and Troy had a mad rush to run out for an appoointment and was gone 10 minutes later. Poor Will was all confused by then and in the end I gave him some nurofen before bed. 10 minutes later though I heard him crying and went to check on him and he was just sitting up looking sad. I asked him what was wrog and he took his dummy out and said "Medis"? I was so horrified - I asked him if he meant medicine and he said yes. So I told him he had already had some and he asked for his cup. But he didn't really want a drink so I tucked him back in and said good night. I haven't heard anything since so :fingerscrossed: it was a one-off. I have a feeling he is just a bit confused about what's happening here lately. We are usually both here at night for bedtime and lately either of us has been out. On Saturday night we will both be out and my parents will be minding him. I so hope he doesn't muck up on them.

Anyway I should be going. Got a lot to do tonight before my parents come to stay tomorrow.

Chat later girls!

Ange&Seth
09-08-2007, 19:39
Hello girls :wave:

I'm sorry to say that yet again, I've been slack and haven't kept up with you all and now there are too many posts for me to be able to do personals. I know - I'm such a bad friend :p

Nothing much happening here with us at the moment. Oh except that I ordered my first MCN yesterday and less than 24 hours later, they were on my door step :eek: absolutely amazing!!!

This morning I booked flights for Seth and I to go to Tassie. I've just booked a hire car for the duration of our trip and I'm a bit daunted by it all. I've never hired a car before. Last time I had a car to drive in Tassie, it was cos I'd taken my own over there when I was 18!!!

I haven't met my nephew yet, and it's his 1st birthday on the 25th August - the day we get there! Seth will be able to go to the birthday party with all the other kids!! It's going to be so much fun! OMG I'm so excited now :smiliedance: <- this is me!!!

Talk to you all soon.

bingo
09-08-2007, 19:41
Yeah it can be hard when they get overstimulated and you want them to go to sleep. I'm suss on Maddi getting sick too as she has had a small teeny tiny cough but her sleeping and her temper has left a lot to be desired. She only had half an hour day sleep today and boy was she a horror. AND she's only just gone to bed now. My Dad came today to stay until Sunday and she was so excited to see him. She just didn't want to go to sleep. No worries about the tv stuff Tan. Maddi is just a total addict and its just something that has slowly developed without me noticing. It did come to my attention when we went away and she would jsut get so insistent that she watch some tv.
Have a great night out on Saturday. How great that your parents are coming to stay. Maybe you should get a hotel room so you can sleep in the next day too (oh that would be bliss for me right now).
Hey Fi, I meant to say to you that if you want to know what happened on ER just yell out and I'll be happy to fill you in. Maybe it hasn't started in queensland yet??? You can only hope. In Bendigo its on Monday night at 9.30pm on WIN.
Better go and drink the rest of my red :D

MrsMiggins
09-08-2007, 21:47
Phew! So much to catch up on! I have so much I want to say after reading through all the posts, my head is reeling & I can't type fast enough to get it all down before I forget it! :laughing:

Lou, thanks so much re: the ER thing! I probably have missed one episode. Bummer! But at least it's not like 10!! You know, I was only just thinking the other day that I really should flick over to channel 9 every so often to see if it's on, because otherwise I'm bound to miss it. :rolleyes: Just tell me, what was the big cliffhanger from the last ep of the last season? I can't remember what it was, but I know it was big. OH WAIT!!! YES!!! I know what it was!! Abby & the baby when she got shot! OMG! What happened?!!! And what happened with Jerry? Did he die? Oh! So sad!! I remember now I was bawling my eyes out watching the final ep last season! (Blame the PG hormones!!) I've actually been watching repeats on pay tv & they're up to the ones where Lucy & Carter got shot.

OK - enough ER talk! Although I could chat about ER all day! I just LUUURVE it!!

How great your dad's come to stay! I bet Maddi is getting spoilt rotten & loving every second of it!! How gorgeous are your new pics!! I had a good old laugh having a look at those! Gawd Lou! She is such a cute little imp!

Ange! How are ya?! When are you off to Tassie? Will you be anywhere near Anna? You sure sound excited! It should be so much fun & great news you'll get to see you nephew. I bet he & Seth have a ball together!

Tan, I hope Will is able to adjust to all the goings-on. I'm sure he will. The great thing about kids - they're pretty resilient about changes & upheaval. Even if he's a little out of sorts for a while, I bet he comes good again very soon. As for the TV thing, Claire is a bit of an addict too! I'm sure she gets it from me. I love having the telly on, even if I'm not watching it. She has a tonne of favourite shows & is getting up quite a collection of DVD's as well. IKWYM about them taking forever to decide which ones to watch. Claire goes on & on & on about it! All day it's "Pig? (Peppa Pig) Dora. Wiggies? Blue's Clues. Safari? (Wiggly Safari) Sword. (Captain Feathersword) Potatoes? (Hot Potatoes) Big Red Boat. Wake up Jeff?" etc. etc. etc. And the worst part is that you have to try & guess which one of those it is she actually wants to watch & heaven help you if you get it wrong!! I think I've created a monster!! lol I'm not too worried about it though, as she is happy to play outside with the dogs & plays with her toys & reads books all the time as well. I think kids are naturally drawn to TV. When you think about it, it's bound to attract them. So long as they're active for the most part, I think it's OK. In all honesty, the vast majority of stuff Claire enjoys is hugely educational & I think she's learned a lot from it.

That's funny you mentioned Will looks like he's skipping when he jumps! Claire does as well!

Hayles, I'm still thinking of you heaps! I hope the good days are starting to outnumber the bad days for you. Soon it will all be gone!! How many weeks are you now?

Mel, how's Bayli? Hopefully it's not one of those nasty flu's. There's just so much going around right now! It's awful!

Wow Cath!! Will is going great guns by the sounds of things!! Looks like you're giving him lots of the good stuff!! Well done! :D

Anna, I hope things are going well for you!

OK, now I have to try & remember where I'm at catching you all up on my news! First of all, moving. The offer Dave's boss put in on the house got accepted, so looks like we're not going to end up homeless after all! We're going to be moving around about the 2nd week of Sept. I have been trying not to look at the tonnes upon tonnes of cr@p we have to pack!! OMG it's just such a mammoth job, I honestly feel like crying every time I think about it! I have no idea how on EARTH we're going ot manage to get it all done. When we moved when Claire was 2m old, it was easier because being bottlefed, I could just hand her over to mum & dad for the day & we could get heaps done. The advantage here is that we have a few weeks up our sleeves, but I dunno. I know I could always express feeds for him, but that has issues in itself. Ugh! I am just trying not to think about it!

The kids are well. I took Owen to the CHN for his 5m weigh & measure (geez, time is sure flying!!) and he is now 8.3kg (has slowed down on the weight gain somewhat. He was gaining about 1kg/month but was about 7.9kg at his 4m check up, so only about 400g gained in the last month) and is now 66cm.

The CHN is the same one I took Claire to & this is the first time I've seen her since Claire was a year old. I took Owen in at 3m, but this CHN was away overseas & had another filling in for her. When she saw Claire, she was gob-smacked at everything she did. She said she had never seen a child of that age with such advanced language skills & had also never seen a child that age who could not only count so well, but that actually understood the concept of counting (ie: that she was counting objects, rather than just reciting numbers & would pick up where she left off, or start over again if interrupted) She was asking me if Claire knew things like animals, colours, shapes etc and was just amazed that she knew all of them. She said we should start looking into special schools for her! I was so proud of my little girl! I mean, for all the tantrum chucking, sleep issues and just general naughtiness, I know it is definitely worth it. I was even thinking the other day that we should maybe look into getting her into one of those acting schools like Brightstars or something. (She's certainly a character!!) But I just thought that maybe something like that might help her channel her energies. I know she'd absolutely love it, but... I dunno! I have no idea about these things!

Oh! And I can't believe I almost forgot!! Guess who's getting his first two teeth?! I thought I could feel something the other day. Then yesterday I spotted two little white dots on his lower gum & today you can feel the one on the right just starting to come through. They don't really seem to be bothering him overly much. He is chewing his hands even more than usual & has been drooling HEAPS. Last night he was a bit unsettled, but nothing major. Hopefully they'll pop up quickly for him. I also hope he's gotten over his little "biting mummy whilst feeding" stage!! He has been clamping down on me and pulling back really hard & OMG it hurts so much!!! He hasn't done it for a few days though, so maybe I'll be lucky! I can only imagine how painful that'd be with teeth!! OUCH!!

Well, that's enough of me blabbering on!! I guess I felt the need to give you all an epic post in Anna's absence!!! lol Ahhh, back to the Fiona of old! It's been a while since I was able to compete with Anna in the epic posts! Maybe this'll encourage her to jump back on!! hee! hee!!

All right, I must get off to bed in case Owen has another unsettled night. Hope you're all well!!

Wivi
10-08-2007, 12:06
Hi there!

Well my little guy has been quite chirpy today so I guess he was just having an off day yesterday. I don't blame him - it has been quite confusing around here lately. He slept right through like normal - he was just a bit muddled about bedtime last night I think.

Lou - I hope Maddi isn't coming down with anything. I was hoping she would have a really good run of good health for a little while for you. How exciting that her Fa Fa is back! I bet she is all smiles today.

Fi - that's good news about the move although I hear you about the packing thing! What a nightmare. I'd hate to do it now. And we all knew Claire was a clever little thing - what a proud Mummy you must be. I will confess that I am not too keen on the "special" school thing though. I was identified as a "gifted" child (that was the term then) when I was little and did all sorts of special programs at school (no such thing as a special school back then) all of which did diddly squat for me and just targeted me as a nerd I guess. If it were me I would probably just take Claire's lead and if the acting school sounds the way then follow that - whatever will be fun for her. I agree that she probably needs lot of stimulation - as long as it is fun and still allows her to be a kid. I cringe when I see those programs about kids who went to Uni at like 10 - they lose their childhood! (Not saying that you would do any of these things mind you - I am just on my soapbox here).

Owen sounds pretty big now. I don't think Will was anywhere near that big at 5 months. Nope - just had a look - he was only 6.7kg. Your boy is huge! That BF must be going well!

Ange- how exciting about your trip! Also - how brave of you! You are one together Mummy. What a great time you are going to have.

Lou - they are great photos of Maddi! She is so beautiful - her hair is so cute. Good work on the mirror photo thing too - that can be very tricky to do. Looks like very ymmu chocolate cake as well.

I should go - my parent's will be here any minute (I actually thought that they would have been here already).

Have a great weekend.

Bye!

cath
10-08-2007, 12:35
Hello again,
Well I have just compared Will's growth with Paddy's and Will is possibly going to be huge!! At exactly the same age (4 weeks 2 days) Paddy had put on 265g and was 4.450kg and 55cm while Will has put on 945g and is 5.215kg and 56cm tall. How bizarre seeing as Will was smaller at birth. He is totally thriving I guess. Dean is laughing and saying Will will end up beating up Paddy when he is older. What a little pig!! The MCHN said the 3 hourly night feeds should settle down by 6 weeks and I think she is right. He made it to 4 hours between feeds last night -woohoo!! I got a 3 hour block of sleep in there (took me ages to get to sleep so didn't get two of them but I am happy with one). Hopefully we are turning a corner.

Paddy went to sleep today with no dramas. Excellent -looks like he was just trying it on for a couple of days.

Tan I hope you have a lovely weekend with your parents. Have fun gong out on Saturday night. Good to hear Will had a normal night for you last night and all seems to be well.

Fi Claire is definitely one clever little girl. Owen sounds like he is doing really well. I can't believe he is 5 months old. Good luck with those teeth. I remember Paddy going through a phase of that biting down as he pulled off from a feed thing -nasty! Will sometimes does it now and it is bad enough with gums. Good to hear you have found somewhere to move to (even if it is not totally perfect). Is it still near your parents? Good luck with the packing.

Lou those photos of Maddi are amazing. I was wondering how you did that mirror thing - looks tricky. Maddi has amazing eyes! Have fun with your Dad this weekend.

Mel how cute about Bayli jumping. Paddy jumps but his feet stay firmly on the ground -hilarious.

Hayley good to hear from you even if it is just to tell us you are around. I so hope you get better soon.

Ange have fun in Tassie -sounds good!

I had a quick chat to Anna yesterday and she said to say hello to everyone and hopes to be back on here soon.

I got some nice photos of the 2 boys together this morning (I am starting to trust Paddy a little bit with his brother -he has been totally loving for the last couple of weeks -not that I would leave them alone but I can at least step back a bit). Here's a couple:

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4357.jpg

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4355.jpg

Anyway should go and do some dinner preparations while I can (now is my chance - both boys are asleep). Have a good weekend everyone.

Ange&Seth
10-08-2007, 14:10
Hi again :wave:

2 posts in 2 days - are you guys scared yet??? LOL

Today, Seth and I went to playgroup and then headed down town to grab a few things. While we were walking to Best and Less (FYI - BIG sale on there at the moment, lots of winter stuff reduced!), a bus pulled up next to us. I asked how much it would cost for Seth and I to ride around for a bit and be dropped back where we got on - the lady was really nice and said the round trip would be about an hour and she would only charge us 90cents. So Seth and I hopped on and drove all over Wagga for an hour. Sounds boring but it was actually fun! Seth held my hand the whole time and it was just really nice.

When we got off the bus we went into Best and Less and on our way out, Seth was just in front of me and this pregnant lady was coming in. She had a cigarette in her mouth, took the last puff on it, then threw it on the ground in front of Seth :mad: I thought it was SO rude!! Didn't say anything to her but she's littering, throwing a cigarette butt that's still smoldering right at my kids feet AND shouldn't have been smoking in the first place!!! I mean, I had a few smokes while I was pregnant with Seth (yes I was an irresponsible pregnant woman, I'm ashamed to say) but I never smoked in PUBLIC!! I just couldn't believe it!

Fi - Don't be too scared about moving. Just start doing one room at a time now and clean stuff out as you go. If you want to have a garage sale or something - have a box for packing and a box for sale in each room and sort through everything as you pack. When we move, I usually empty the linen cupboard first, leaving only the things we really need between now and the move. Then I go to the wardrobes and the kitchen cupboards and the bathroom. I've always found that if you pack the stuff in the cupboards now, then the job isn't so big when it actually comes time to move. Even grab a box and put all your shoes in the box in the wardrobe, but don't seal it. This way you can still get into it to get your shoes, but come moving day, you only have to seal the top :thumbsup:

How excellent that the CHN was so impressed by Claire. You must be one proud mummy! Oh and Owen's teeth!! That seems so young to be getting his first tooth - I can't remember now when Seth got his first one. Oh stop it!! You're making me clucky!

Lou - Those photos of Maddi are great!! How do you manage to take such good photos? Mine are never that great!

Tan - hope Will has settled for you today. Have fun at your parents' house. I'm heading to mine tomorrow afternoon for the night too.

Together Mummy? Me? No way! I'm starting to stress out now - the enormity of travelling to Melbourne, then getting on a plane with Seth and hiring a car, well, it's all starting to hit me and I honestly think I must have had a leave of my senses when I decided to book this thing :laughing: It'll be fun though, I know that, but just little things are starting to worry me!

Cath - Good to hear that Paddy has settled down again. Wow - Will really is gaining weight at a rapid rate huh? He must be having a continuous growth spurt. The photos of the two boys are really cute.

Oh almost forgot - Seth did a runner on me today in Best and Less. I found him before I got too panicked, but the little bugger thought it was a game! I stopped to look at some things on the end of an aisle, and he went into that aisle and I took my eyes off him to look at the t-shirt and then went to get him and he was gone!! I looked in the aisles either side and he wasn't there. I called out to him and no reply. I went right to the front window in the corner we were in, and he wasn't there. I was just thinking, 'would someone stop him if he went out the front door alone?' and headed back to where it all started and he jumped around the end of an aisle with a big grin on his face! It probably only went on for less than 30 secs, but my god if felt like so much longer!!

That's all from me today - might scare you guys even more and pop back on tomorrow!!

bingo
10-08-2007, 20:36
:eek: Ange 2 posts! Keep it up chicky, you have to keep the flow of posts going to makeup for the absences of Hayley and Anna. Hey your tips about moving are great. Wish you were around when I moved house. You sound like a very organised person. I have got to get better at that organisation stuff now we have Maddi. Tassie sounds like a great idea. Don't stress about how Seth is going to cope. He'll be fine. I stressed out about Maddi and driving to the snow( takes about 5 hours) and she was really good. Just make sure you pack some of his fav books and toys.
Fi, sounds like you are going to have your hands full with an intelligent girly called Claire. I guess the fun part is keeping her mind active and occupied before she gets bored. How great that you aren't going to have to keep looking for a new place to move to. How old is Owen? Teeth already - thats impressive. I think Maddi was 8 months old when she got her teeth? And that was the moment I gave up BF. The thought of her biting me with teeth scared me silly.
Cath, Will is doing so great with his growth. I love the photo's of the 2boys together. Paddy looks so in Love with his little ( or should I say bigger) brother.
Have a great weekend Tan. The chocky cake was yummo by the way :p . Unfortunately Maddi is sick. Tonight she started coughing heaps and her nose is all blocked up and she vomited all over her bed. And she had no day sleep. I'm just hoping its not this terrible flu that is going around. So far she hasn't had a temp so we'll see how she goes. I think she threw up with all the stuff in her nose and throat because after that she has gone back to sleep.
Today I went and bought a quilt, quilt cover and sheet set for Maddi's big bed. It looks really good in her room. I'll have to take a photo tommorow to show you guys.
Thanks for the nice photo comments. I was stoked that the mirror photo worked. Maddi's eyes have been changing since she was born. They started off a dark blue/violet color and now they are like this steel blue/green color. They really are adorable.

Hayley and Anna - we miss you!

OMG I nearly forgot. Fi, Jerry didn't die. He had heart surgery by Neela who dida kick *** job. Abby had a baby boy by emergency c-section. But then they couldn't stop her bleeding during the c-section and the doctor told her if it didn't stop that she would have to have a hysterectomy. I missed the next bit as I was making a milo but I think they ended up doing just that. Oh and Sam got kidnapped with her son by her ex and 2 of his mates. In the end he raped her and she just lay there because she was trying to save her son. Then her ex fell asleep and she got the car keys and ran off (they were in the middle of a desert) and was about to take off with her son. You see her look at her son lovingly (he is asleep in the back seat of the car) and she goes back to her ex and picks up a gun and shoots him. I think they were trying to convey that she had that thought her son would be better off not having his dad around. If she didn't shoot him they would spend the rest of their lives trying to get away from him. I think that was about it in a nutshell. Action packed Fi! Make sure your watching it next Monday ok!

MrsMiggins
10-08-2007, 21:46
Oh, THANK YOU beautiful Lou!!!! :hugs: What a great run down of ER!! I'd forgotten about Sam & whatsisname getting kidnapped. Grrrr her ex!! I hope she shot him good! He's an a'hole!

Now you've got me confused! Is it on Monday or Wednesday? I'm going to stick a big post-it note somewhere so I can't forget it!!

Ange, thanks so much for the moving tips! I've done it a million times, you'd think I would have it down pat by now, but I just don't! I've already packed up the linen cupboard & I like the idea about putting all the shoes in a box. In fact I may just do that with all my clothes & then just put a few outfits in a suitcase to live out of until we move. I really only have a few things that fit me (and nothing that looks good!!) at the moment, so it'll make it easier, rather than sorting through the billion or so articles of clothing I have! I'm actually going to have 3 different sorting boxes/bags - one of things I'm keeping, one to go to the salvos & one just to chuck out. And I am going to be ruthless this time. I am a terrible, terrible hoarder! I seriously have clothes from about 15 years ago (when I was a teenager & a size 10! Pffft! Like I'm ever going to fit into those again!!) And because I've yo-yo'd so much in my weight over the past decade, I have everything from size 12-18. I just keep it all for the next time I need it. I'm going to bit the bullet & get rid of it all. Then when I lose all this weight, I'm going to treat myself to a decent wardrobe. Instead of buying a thousand cheap things, I'm going to spend some good money & just get a small but serviceable & good quality wardrobe.

That bus ride around Wagga sounded nice!! Isn't it so lovely when you go out with kids how normal, every day things are exciting for them! Gives you such a nice perspective on things!

Tan, thanks for sharing your experience with me re: the "special" school thing. I really appreciate hearing that perspective. I guess I never fully realised that aspect of it. I was in a gifted program when we lived in the US, but it was done as an add-on class in the mainstream public school. When we returned to Aust when I was 8, there was nothing like it. I had been skipped ahead a grade in the States, but back in Aust I was placed back at my age level, so I was doing stuff I'd done before. I ended up playing up a bit & just generally losing interest, because I was bored. I think I'm just wary of something similar happening to Claire. I'd like her to be able to realise her full potential but still have her in mainstream education. I worry that she'll end up like me, having a boring dead-end "just there to pay the bills" kind of job, when she could be doing something really worthwhile & rewarding.

I'm glad Good Will has returned!! :D I knew he wouldn't be too far away!

Cath! Wow! Will sounds like he is going to be such a big boy!! You must be doing a great job! Hopefully the night time feeds will start to stretch out a bit more for you now. The place we are moving to is a little further from mum & dad's than where we are now, but not by much. It's probably a 15 min drive now, rather than a 10 min one, so not too bad.

Oh Lou! I meant to say too, that whenever I think about Owen getting his teeth, I always think about how you were worried about Maddi getting hers! That seems like only yesterday! I never had to worry about it with Claire, being fully FF long before her teeth came in. She got her's pretty much spot-on 6m. Owen will be 5m on Sunday. The first one cut through today & you can see the second one, but it's not quite through yet. Maybe tomorrow or the next day? It's very close.

Well, I said I was going to head off to bed early tonight - doesn't look like that's happening!! Hope you're all having a lovely evening!

Katcha
11-08-2007, 10:45
Hi guys. Sorry I haven't had time to read all your posts so there's no personals but I just wanted to let you guys know that I started to bleed on Monday & had an ultrasound done which showed that the pregnancy wasn't viable, and I had a miscarriage during the week. :crying: I should be OK though....just gotta try again I guess. Hope all of you are well.

bingo
11-08-2007, 11:01
:hugs: Oh Renee I'm so sad to hear of your loss. I know there is nothing I can really say to make it all better except that know that our thoughts are with you during this difficult time. :hugs:

hayleylea
11-08-2007, 11:53
Hi Renee....I spoke to you the other day about your loss. Im here if you want to talk remember that! :hugs:

Lou - Maddis photos are just gorgeous. She is such a gorgeous little thing.

Cath - i checked out the pics of your 2 cuties aswell!! Looks like they like each other!

Tan - i miss you on msn too! hopefully we can catch up soon!!

Im actually starting to feel a tad better.....i did throw up this morning but over all i dont feel like im dying (like i have previously!) Im still at mums. Trent is busily working on our house and I think ill be here for another week and then head home and get back to normal life!

A little 2 year old boy died in bathurst last night becaue of this bloody flu which is very scary! his 3 year old sister has now been put into hospital. This flu epedemic is just a nightmare!!!

Anyway i will try my hardest to catch up from now on!

miss you all!

cath
11-08-2007, 13:39
Oh Renee -my thoughts are with you. How many weeks were you? It is such a horrible thing to go through. I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks before I got pregnant with Paddy and I can still remember everything and how I felt so clearly. I still think about it now sometimes. Feel free to contact me if you want to chat. I remember at the start I was sort of "fine". Quite a few of my friends had just gone through the same thing and I was trying to tell myself "it was bound to happen" or something. When I went back to work a week later though something kicked in and I couldn't stop crying.
Look after yourself and give Katelyn and James lots of cuddles. I hope you are okay.

MrsMiggins
11-08-2007, 14:09
Oh Renee! I'm so sorry! :hugs: We are all more than happy to listen if you need to talk.

Wivi
11-08-2007, 14:58
Renee - I am so sorry to hear about your loss. Lots and lots of :hugs: from me too. Rest up as much as you can and take some time out to make sure you are ok. As Cath said - sometimes these things can hit home a little after the actual event.

Special cuddles for Katelyn too.

Ange&Seth
11-08-2007, 19:11
:hugs: Renee - I can't imagine what you're feeling right now. Please know that you and your family are in my thoughts during this difficult time.

Ange&Seth
12-08-2007, 11:40
Ok, let's try this again - I had half a post typed and Seth hit some button and I lost it all and got taken to a completely different page :rolleyes:

How has everyone's weekend been? Mine's been pretty full on but enjoyable all the same! Friday night saw me consume a little too much wine and a friend drop in with one of HER friends. They arrived about 11.30-midnight. MY friend crashed on the spare bed and I assumed that HER friend would too, but she announced at 2.30am (when I was about to suggest going to bed) that she would call a cab. Now, the pubs close at 3am so you can imagine what the wait would be like for a cab at that time on a Saturday morning. Just after 4am the cab still hadn't arrived so she called them again. I was watching the time tick away thinking 'Seth's gonna be awake in about 3-4 hours'. She ended up leaving about 4.30am and Seth woke at 8.

I HAD planned to go to the Farmer's Markets that morning but there was no way I was getting behind the wheel - I was positive that I was still over the limit. So we stayed home til lunchtime, when we went to Auntie Megan's house. She's the one who used to live with us and I was her superviser at the clinic. We had lunch and then took Seth to the park to play and we walked around the animals there, they have like a petting zoo type thing with donkeys and pigs and horses, goats, kangaroos and all sorts of birds. Then we ran into Auntie Megan's employer and his wife. Megan now works for one of the doctors I used to work with from the old clinic, he's now got his own practice and is our family doctor. His wife kept commenting on what an angel Seth was and that he was just beautiful and you can tell that he's a good boy just by watching him. It was wonderful to hear that, cos I know he's an angel, but sometimes I catch myself thinking 'what if he's really a little sh!t and I just don't notice?' ya know, rose coloured glasses and all that jazz.

Oh, our dog had her puppies. There are 4 of them this time. I think we'll definitely be getting her fixed after this last lot. She didn't get out of the yard but one neighbourhood dog got INTO our yard :mad: There are 3 boys and 1 girl. Now I've just got to get rid of them LOL.

Last night, my gf came round and we had dinner. She left early though and I was planning on having an early night but I sort of sat here until about 12.30am after Seth went to bed. I hate it when Adam's away!

Oh, Seth didn't have a day sleep yesterday. He was such a good boy. He fell asleep in the car last night when we went to get dinner though, so he had about 20 mins, but if you don't count that, then he was up for 12 hours. Pretty good effort I reckon :thumbsup:

Seth's being a real little imp today. He's just getting into everything. He keeps flushing the toilet for no reason. And I found him with 2 of my wooden spoons, playing in the toilet :eek: One of them was my favourite wooden spoon, do you guys all have a FAVOURITE wooden spoon? Well, now I'm thinking I have to throw them out cos wood sort of retains moisture and I don't think that it would be very hygenic to just wash them and keep using them. What do you guys think?

Well, it's taken me nearly an hour to type this, because Seth wouldn't leave me alone and now he's in bed so I'm gonna go have a quick look around the threads and try and get some housework done.

Talk to you all soon - hope you've had a good weekend!

cath
12-08-2007, 13:19
Ange I totally have a favourite wooden spoon and I would be so upset if it got put in the toilet. There is no way I could use it again -I think you have to throw it. Maybe tonight will be your eary night. I keep planning to go to bed early but it never quite happens too. How scary about Seth disappearing for a bit in Best and Less -I hate that scary moment when you suddenly can't see them.

Fi I so hear you about the new wardrobe thing. That is what I am trying to do too. I've sold all my old clothes on ebay over the last year and plan to replace them with good clothes (which I still haven't quite done yet). Dean laughed at me the other night when I said I sold all my clothes on ebay and have nothing to wear because in his eyes I still have heaps of clothes but I don't think my wardrobe is anywhere near complete at the moment. I am hopeing to get out shopping this Thursday when Paddy goes to Mum's.

Lou have you put Maddi in her big bed yet? We will be doing that in a few months with Paddy which scares me a bit -I like him contained in the cot. I hope Maddi is okay and not too sick.

Hayley it was great having a chat to you on messenger yesterday. Hope you are feeling okay today.

Tan how was your night out last night?

Will did his second night of making it 4 hours between feeds last night-excellent - think we have a new pattern and having a 3 hour block of sleep makes a big difference. I can cope with a couple of chunks of 3 hours sleep.

Anyway just a quick check in. I started this ages ago but then had to feed Will and now really better get some cooking done while Paddy is still asleep. Chat soon. Hope you are doing okay Renee.

ETA: Check out my chubby faced man. Photo from this morning. I love these little pants a friend gave him the other day -they are so cool but won't last long the way he is growing.

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4398.jpg

hayleylea
12-08-2007, 15:13
Hey guys

Ange! Great to see you posting more in here! Especially cause we dont get to catch up as much since my stupid MS!! I enjoyed reading about your weekend..sounds like fun!

Cath - love the pic of Will! so cute. He is growing so quickly. I enjoyed our chat on MSN the other day too! it was good to catch up...

I am starting to feel half human again! :smiliedance: I woke up at 4.30 this morning and had a bit of a chuck but havent felt too bad today. Trent came down and we all went to the pub for a counter lunch. They have family karoke there at lunch times on sundays and there was a kids party and Cooper had a ball! He was blowing kisses to all the kids, it was very cute!

Anyway thats all from me today. Cooper hasnt had a day sleep today - he spent the day with Daddy so i didnt bother giving him one. He has been a little gem too which is just great!! And Ange on the note that Seth is an angel...i can vouch for that. When we met i could have taken him home easily!!!!

Talk soon guys!

ETA: Ange im sorry to say but i would probably throw out your fave wooden spoon too!!!

Ange&Seth
12-08-2007, 20:14
Yep - I'd actually already thrown the 2 spoons out :crying: it felt like a funeral!!! LOL - just joking. I mean, it's not like I'd wash that spoon up if it was dirty, just so I could use it, I'd use another one, but if I had the choice I always grabbed THAT one KWIM? It was the perfect length and everything. *sigh* oh well, RIP Fave Wooden Spoon RIP.

Cath - that photo of Will is so gorgeous! I love the baby photos like that, they don't stay chubby like that after they get mobile!! Good to hear that you're getting some half decent sleep too, that's always a bonus :thumbsup:

Hayles - I miss ya mate!! But it was good to have a chat to Cooper on msn today :laughing: He said he's trying to be a good boy for mummy cos she's not feeling well LOL!! Glad you enjoyed your lunch too, it's been so long since we've gone out for a meal, maybe we should look into lunches and family days around here.

And thankyou for the angel comment too babe, I think he's pretty damn special :angel:

ETA: TWO posts in ONE day - OMG....................... is that the theme song to The Twilight Zone I hear???

Wivi
13-08-2007, 10:59
Oh LOL about the spoons!!! I guess I am attached to ALL our cooking utensils so I would be a right mess if Will did something like that. Never mind the freak out about the fact that he put something in the toilet anyway. You sound like you had a lovely day out yesterday with Seth - oh and I really liked the bus ride thing the other day too.

Well my parents have only just left here after staying since Friday - that's the longest I think my parents have ever stayed here! My Dad gets antsy about being in the city and not having anything to do so they came down to help me make a new rose garden in my front yard. Will has had a ball helping them the past couple of days - it was really warm weather here. The only drawback about the weather was that it was really hot overnight too and Will woke up 2 on Saturday night and I am pretty sure he was hot - we all were! It's cooled off now though and last night he slept like a log.

The one annoying thing for this weekend was something my Mum did on Saturday. It's only a little bit annoying - and it's actually kind of funny. Troy put Will in his room for his nap at the usual time while we were outside in the garden. He brought Will out to say goodnight to everyone before putting him in bed so my Mum knew full well that's what Will was doing. Anyway a little while later Mum gets it into her head to go around washing the windowsills (outside) - I didn't pay any attention because I really thought she would stay away from Will's room. Course not! Not long afterwards she comes out to find me and says "there's a little boy peeking out of the blind at me!". She'd gone and washed Will's window! Of course then Troy and I had a bit of a battle to get Will to have a sleep - I am pretty sure Mum was talking to him through the window - she kept telling me there was too much action outside for him to settle down and have a sleep. He did have a sleep though - but honestly I think she does these things on purpose! What a goose!

Dinner on Saturday night was pretty good. Our friend's were late so we ended up putting Will to bed before we left. I think that might have been a good thing given that my Mum's brother arrived just before Will's bedtime and Will kind of went a little funny after that. Just quiet and stuff.

Hayley - so glad you are starting to feel a bit better. Here's hoping it keeps improving for you. Oh and very cute that Cooper and Trent had a boy's day together yesterday.

Cath - that's great that you are starting to get some longer chunks of sleep out of Will. Does he have a dummy at all? I keep telling Troy that if we have another bub I want to try not giving it a dummy - Troy's not very keen on that idea, basically he thinks if it stops them screaming then they are just fantastic! Your pic of Will is cute too - he is so chubby, I love chubby babies.

I should go - I have lots and lots of cleaning to do now that my parents have gone and a whole heap of work as well. Chat soon. Bye!

hayleylea
13-08-2007, 13:36
I spoke a bit too soon about the whole feeling well thing, spent alot of last night talking to my beloved bucket and today can barely function - just feel terrible! Oh well i got a couple of good days in!

i have been telling Cooper there is a baby in my belly and he has been so cute. I say mummy has a baby in her belly and he races over and gives my tummy a kiss! So very cute!

Tan - good to hear from you again. I missed you on MSN again today! :banghead: Will hopefully catch up soon!

Anyway im off..talk soon.

cath
13-08-2007, 13:44
Tan that is hilarious about your Mum and the window sills -that is totally something my Mum would do. My Mum has just left after helping me out at Mothers Group again which was lovely but also driving me insane trying to look at property prices on the internet.She is so slow and fumbling with the computer but has to "drive" -I was dying for her to leave so I could get on here and not have to watch her fumble her way around.
Will does not have a dummy and I don't think he will be getting one either at this point which I am sort of happy about. In desperation on Friday night when we couldn't stop him crying we tried to give him one but he didn't want it anyway (in the end I think he was just still hungry because I fed him again -even though I felt like I had just fed him - and he finally settled down after a few hours of chaos). I don't have a big problem with dummies but I can imagine they have the possibility of becoming problems (like if you have to constantly replace it during the night etc.) so if we can get away without using it I will go with that.

Ange I hope you are out wooden spoon shopping today and find suitable replacements. New ones just aren't the same though are they -they need to be "worn in".

Hayley good to hear you managed to get out for lunch (did you gt to eat or was just being there a big enough effort for you)? I hope you have a much better week this week.

Anyway just a quick check in. Paddy will be awake soon and we are off to the shops to get him new socks (I realised last night that 90% of the socks he has been wearing are too small poor kid and I have packed them away which weill force me to get out there and buy him new ones). Chat soon.

cath
13-08-2007, 13:46
Oh Hayley -just saw your post you poor thing. How annoying!! That's cute about Cooper kissing your tummy. They sort of understand something I think. When Paddy kisses Will now he gets the same funny look on his face that he used to get when he used to rub his face on my pregnant stomach. I hope you have a better day tomorrow.

Ange&Seth
13-08-2007, 14:08
Hello Hello :wave:

Hayles - I'm sorry you've had a bad day again today. I was really hoping that you'd get better and STAY better :hugs: That's very cute what Cooper's doing though with your tummy, I'd love to see that!!

Cath - Best and Less have some great socks for $2 a pair and sometimes they are reduced to $1.75. Seth's drawer is full of them!! Although, I need to clean out the ones that are too small for him too. Actually, I need to do that with his entire wardrobe!!

Tan - I can see why you're annoyed with your mum, but I'm also glad you can see the funny side of it. Sometimes they just don't think do they? My mum would probably do something like that too.

I've just gotten off the phone with my sister and omg it was SO hard not to let it slip that I was coming home. The only person who knows I'm coming is my Auntie, and she's not even telling HER daughter just in case she lets it slip to someone. Oh and she even said to me 'I won't even write it on the calendar, just in case anyone looks at it!' God love her. I think she's a bit excited too!

Nothing much is happening here today. It's a beautiful day though, so I've managed to get alot of washing done. That's the excitement for my day.

OH OH OH!!! And Adam's coming home today - he should be about half an hour to an hour outside of Wagga right now. I can't wait to see him!! He's been gone for 5 days and I have missed him SO much. :laughing: I just welled up thinking about it!! I'm so stupid!!

Talk to you all soon!

cath
13-08-2007, 14:35
Thanks Ange - I will be heading to Best and Less on Thursday so will stock up then. You are doing so well keeping your big secret from your family -must be pretty hard. How cute about you being excited to see Adam you big softie. Have a lovely night together tonight.

Wivi
13-08-2007, 14:38
LoL - it's nice to know other people have silly Mum's like mine! Like I said I wasn't really annoyed - just couldn't believe that she would do that! I always try to imagine myself in Will's situation, if I was trying to have a sleep and someone came and rubbed at my window (just near my head) then I would hop up and have a look too! LOL - too funny.

Hayles - so sorry you are having another rough day. That sucks. This MS has gotta give reasonably soon surely! Love the thought of Cooper kissing your belly though!

Cath and Ange -we have the sock problem here too. Will's socks are all suddenly too small, as are his shoes. I had to buy him new swimmers yesterday and realised how expensive everything is for him now. The socks and shoes will be next - I dread buying shoes.

Ange- hope Adam has a nice big cuddle for you when he gets home. You did well being on your own for 5 days. That's cute about your Aunty being excited about Tassie.

Hmm - gotta go. I am being very lazy today and letting Will watch too much tv. I figure a nice quiet day is doing us both good.

hayleylea
13-08-2007, 16:27
Hey guys just a quick one from me. Thanks for all your well wishes. I feel dreadfull!!!!!!!! Seriously when is this going to end! :banghead:

Ange thats nice Adam is coming home. I miss Trent so much being down here at my mums...even though he was being a sh!t about PNG :laughing: I do more the well up about not being with him - its really hard!! (aww im a sook latley arent I!!!!) How cool that your whole Tassie visit is a suprise!

Tan it was good to catch up briefly this afternoon!!

Cath - im with you i need to get Cooper some more socks too! I did pick up some from the reject shop the other week for cheap as and they had the nonslip feet and all!

Anywho i better go..

Ange&Seth
13-08-2007, 23:45
Hello girls :wave:

Just a quick one - yes I know it's late but it's Monday, well Tuesday now, but Pool Comp is up and running again and yours truly has the unfortunate pleasure of collecting the score sheets and money, which undoubtedly leads to copious amounts of alcohol being consumed while waiting for all sheets and money to arrive!!!

Anyway, my gripe tonight is about the new publican at the local pub. We were playing his team tonight, and he saw fit to swear at me and abuse me when I reminded him of one of the standing pool comp rules. He called me a F'ing uppity b!tch, while looking me up and down, also thrown around was 'don't tell me how to run my f'ing pub' and 'that rule is bull ****, I'll do what I want in my f'ing pub' - I mean really! :eek: there was absolutely no need for that language OR that attitude, and it left me with both hands shaking, and I'm ashamed to admit that i succumbed to the urge for a cigarette, in an attempt to calm myself down after the event.

I'm VERY happy to report however that I beat the sorry son of a B by 3 balls. And even if I do say so myself, I pulled off the SWEETEST reverse double almost of my entire pool career, while this A'hole STILL doubted my ability as a pool player, and took the hardest shots rather than playing a smart game.

Then, it was even SWEETER again, for myself and my other FEMALE partner to beat him and his partner in the doubles. A'hole that he is!!! I beat both him AND his son!!!! I bet he wouldn't have spoken to Adam or Clay the way he spoke to me!!

Anyway, I'm sorry you guys had to read that, but I just really needed to get it off my chest. I'm heading to bed now, to cuddle up to Adam - who hasn't been here for the past 5 days.

Will talk to you all tomoz, when I am well rested and much calmer!

hayleylea
14-08-2007, 07:07
Ange - What a W@nker!!!!! He has no right to talk to you like that!! Good on you for beating him!!!

Will be back later guys... Cooper just woke up.

Wivi
14-08-2007, 07:18
Oh Ange! You go girl!!! There's only one way to put people like that in their place and that's to beat them fair and square! Rude Pig.

bingo
14-08-2007, 07:31
Oh Boy I feel like crud today. I think its the onset of Maddi's cold :rolleyes: Bound to happen when your wiping their noses and their all over you all day long I suppose. Still no creche today as she was up coughing last night and I think it might be another visit to the doc as her chest sounds really wet. I actually wouldn't take her normally but I have to get a doctors certificate for work for staying home and looking after her. Such a pain in the rear to have to do that.
I'm so excited because my snowboard arrived yesterday and its soooo nice. I can't wait to try it out. I'm going to try and get up to the hills before the end of the season to try it out. I ordered it from this American website and got it for half the price I would have otherwise paid here (that included shipping costs too).

Ange, that new publican sounds like a real PIG of a man. You did really well to stay and keep playing and to keep your cool. I would have told him where to stick it and walked out. I hope that everyone around heard him being a nuffy and that they all think the same of him. He has obviously no desire to turn his pub into a family venue, more of a Blokes World kind of environment. Hey Ange - where has Adam been? My memory is shot! How cool is it that your visit to Tassie is a surprise. Your sister is going to be so shocked and excited to see you. I'm sure Seth is going to turn on his charm as per usual and melt everyone's hearts.
Hayley, this MS is really giving you a pounding. Just when you think your getting over it it comes back and hits you again. :hugs: . Did you and Trent sort out what the go is with PNG?
What is the G-O with socks? I have a sock gremlin that keeps nicking one half of Maddi's socks. I bought some non-slip one's not long ago and nearly every pair has its partner missing.
Cath, good luck with the dummy and Will. Hopefully he won't need one. Maddi is a huge dummy addict and often at night I'm in her room hunting for that elusive dummy that has gone walkabout in the dark. It is soooo annoying. How great that your starting to get more sleep. I was watching a program last night on sleep debt and it was pretty interesting.
Tan, sounds like Will had a great time with your Mum and Dad. Your mum sounds just like my Dad. He does stuff like that all the time when he's here. Probably doesn't help that he is losing his hearing and when he thinks he's being quiet he's actually REALLY LOUD. Now I say to Dad if he wakes her he has to put her to sleep, which unfortunately for me means it encourages him to wake her up. He just loves playing with Maddi now. Maddi was like his little shadow all weekend long. Very cute. Now Dad is starting to talk about moving closer to us which would be so great.
I can't remember who asked if Maddi was in her big bed yet? But no she isn't. I've tried to get her to sleep in it during the day but she is still a fighter when it comes to sleep. I think she will be sleeping in her cot for a while yet. I bought Maddi this gorgeous doona cover set and sheet set from Big W coz it was on sale and pretty much exactly what I was looking for. So thats why I had it set up in her room.
http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/?action=view&current=bed.jpg

bingo
14-08-2007, 07:37
And I forgot to say
FI I hope you remembered to watch ER last night!!!

Wivi
14-08-2007, 08:27
Bugger, Bugger, Bugger!!! I forgot about ER last night. What happened?

Poor Maddi! What a horrible sounding cold. I hope you don't get it Lou. As for the strategy of getting your Dad to put Maddi back to bed - it wouldn't work for me as my Mum would just keep Will up! I don't really understand my Mum sometimes - she hardly ever thinks Will should go to bed when I do. Oh well - I'm the Mum and she has to live with that.

Gotta go - DH the nagger is around at the moment, telling me to get off BH and do some work while Will is at daycare. I've just told him to be quiet or I won't cook him any dinner.

bingo
14-08-2007, 08:43
Hoorah Tan, another ER fan. Well last night John Stamos made his appearance as a ambo guy who has traded his uniform to be a trainee DR. Neela, who is grieving for her hubby (who got killed in Iraq) got really drunk with 2 guys she didn't know. They walked her out of the pub and were about to take advantage of her when John Stamos turns up and punches the **** outta them both and takes Neela home. Neela lurches at him and kisses him and John gently peels her off and just cuddles her and is a really good friend. Abby and Luka's baby goes through an operation and her and Luka fight a lot over the treatment plan. Abby's mum is really good and supportive and says all the right things. Abby and her mum bond really well and at the end of the show Abby doesn't want her mum to go home.
Ah boy - thats about it I think. Better go Maddi is acting like its the end of the world at the moment. Its driving me insane. I think she is feeling really miserable.

Wivi
14-08-2007, 08:59
Oh - that sounded like a really good episode, all nice and warm and fuzzy. I had to forget to watch that one didn't I? I wonder if they replay it on Fox? Might have to hunt around and have a look. It's probably on a channel I don't get though!

MrsMiggins
14-08-2007, 11:41
AAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! Crappity cr@p cr@p cr@p!!!!!

(Yep! I missed it!!! Grrrr!!!!! So cranky with myself!!!!!)

BTW, Lou, I just loved that quilt set for Maddi's bed!! Gorgeous!! Her bed is lovely too!

I just scored a Peppa Pig quilt cover off eBay last week & it arrived today - so excited!!! I'm saving it for when we move to the new house.

Thanks for the run-down Lou (again!!) Tan, they do replay eps on Fox, but they're only up to the ones where Carter is in rehab because of his drug problem post-stabbing (he just went in yesterday). Abby has only been in it for a few episodes so far. It's on Arena at midday.

bingo
14-08-2007, 14:47
Awww Fi!!!!!!!!!!! I was going to post last night to remind you but got side-tracked. OK everyone on here, we need to remind Fi and Tan of ER next week. Peppa Pig! Claire is going to wet herself when she see's that on her bed. Wonder what Owen is going to like? I predict a Bob the Builder fan coming your way Fi.
Just got back from the Dr's and Maddi has viral bronchitis. At least its something different to ear infection I suppose.

Grrr, gotta go Maddi is currently emptying her rice crackers all over the floor while Mummy is busy.

Wivi
14-08-2007, 18:20
LOL Lou - I was actually thinking of setting myself a reminder on my computer for next Monday night. How sad is that?

Oh poor Maddi. That sounds very yucky. I am quite sus about Will at the moment myself. The past few nights he has grown horns once 5:30 comes and is a right pain until bed time. He seems to be a bit off his food too and today he kept rubbing his nose. Grrr - it might all be a coincidence but I have my suspicions that something is lurking there. Or he has discovered that tanty skill...

Fi - nah - I'm going with Thomas the tank for Owen. We are a little sad here at the moment because ABC is not showing Poko anymore and Will loves Poko! Stupid teletubbies are on instead! Poko was much better than that!

OK gotta go - my desk is a mess right now with loads of work.

bingo
14-08-2007, 18:30
Thats not sad Tan, sad is having a digital tv thingo that records all your fav shows. Thats ME! So I don't have to remember. And yes I agree that Poko is great. So much better than teletubbies. Maddi does love teletubbies which I don't understand because all they do is say hello and goodbye. Actually there used to be this show on called Oobi - hand puppets that Maddi just adores. Don't know what happened to it?

Well I gave Maddi a dose of Neurofen tonight as the Dr said her throat looked inflammed and sore and could do with it. And she fell asleep at 7.15pm which is so early for her since she's been sick. Big chance she's been in pain and thats why she was up late. Oh how bad do I feel?!
Tan I hope that Will isn't getting sick. The Dr said there is a lot of yuk stuff going around at the moment like a bad gastro. Ewww - no thanks!

Anna - I was wondering how Alex went with his jaundice? Haven't heard from you in ages. Missed you on MSN the other day too!
Come back Anna!!!!!!!

Renee - how are you travelling? Are you ok? Been thinking of you.:hugs:

bingo
14-08-2007, 18:32
Oh yeah I nearly forgot. When I was a little bubba my Dad bought a case of port that was made in my year of birth. And when I turned 21 my Dad gave me a few bottles. Best thing ever and I was thinking about doing the same with Maddi. Have you guys thought about doing this? And if so which one????

Katcha
14-08-2007, 19:30
Hey everyone, I'm going OK I guess. Cath, like you I was also meant to be 8 weeks. I just think it really sux that I have to TTC all over again when I should be 9 weeks now. Sorry if this is TMI, but I'm just wondering if I'm actually going to start bleeding properly & having cramps. All I've had is spotting and a few clots since last Monday.

Ange, sorry to hear what happened to you favourite wooden spoon! Can't say I have a favourite myself....I'm not exactly the greatest cook in the world....luckily James can cook. :yes:

Hayley, thanks for the chat last week. Hope you MS isn't too bad. And have you made a decision about PNG yet?

OK, that's all I got time for tonight. James wants me to watch a movie that's just about to start.

bingo
15-08-2007, 07:14
Hi Renee, great to hear from you. Sorry I can't be much help with your question and no its not TMI. We're here to help you through it and hopefully one of us can give you some answers or previous experience to help you through. It does suck that you have to TTC again, life can certainly be unfair at times.

Have you guys seen the huge recall by Mattel? I had a look at the website this morning because I had bought Maddi some toys for her birthday and I just wanted to check. There is soooo much stuff being recalled. They used lead paint on the toys effected and also high powered magnets on some of them. If you want to check it out have a look at www.mattel.com

Well today I really feel like crud. The cold had certainly set in and I've turned green. Its gross! Nice quiet day inside for Maddi and Mummy.

Wivi
15-08-2007, 11:10
Hi Renee. I'm not much help with your question either I'm afraid. I hope you get the answers you are looking out for. Glad you are doing ok - although the idea of TTC'ing again must be a bit hard. Just wait til you are ready.

Lou - so sorry you are not feeling well. These kids certainly know how to share. Will isn't sick - he's just grumpy for some reason at the moment, especially late in the day. A friend was asking me whether I could stretch him an hour more at night so that we could take our kids out for dinner and I had to say not at the moment! He's a real cranky pants at night lately. I have done it before but I felt ok saying that to her as she knows full well how cranky toddlers can be. Her little girl is about 5 months older than Will and has her "moments".

I had a chat to Anna on MSN the other day and she said things were going really well with Alex. Apparently he is a very content little boy. She said she is just busy with Mum stuff but to say Hi. Of course I forgot all about that in my rush to do other things!

I haven't considered anything like the Port thing that you mentioned Lou. Although it is a cute idea. Troy is a port fan - might suggest it to him and see what he says.

OK got to get cracking on some work. We have to go out this afternoon to buy a new fridge (long story) so should do work while I can.

hayleylea
15-08-2007, 13:02
OMG i just hopped on the the computer and Ange had wrote a message to me and now im really really woried about her! Poor little Seth had a seizure last night and they had to rush him to hospital and he is still there...I didnt get to talk to her and i have my stupid mobile at home not at mums so cant even call her! So send our best wishes her way!!!!!!!! I really hope Seth is OK!:hugs:

No news on the PNG thing yet girls.

Sorry guys gotta go just had to let you all know about Seth...keep them in our thoughts!

cath
15-08-2007, 13:20
Hi everyone,
Paddy has gone to Dean's parents for a couple of hours which is fantastic. So much easier just having Will to look after for a bit. I was exhausted yesterday after looking after the 2 boys and doing a bit of shopping and going to the park. Such a simple day really but it was exhausting! Paddy has taken to putting on a fake cry (a very loud fake cry) when Will cries and just trying to get out the door to go to the park to wear Paddy out yesterday afternoon was such an ordeal.

Ange that new publican sounds like a pig. Good work beating him at pool!

Lou how exciting about your new bargain snowboard. Hope Maddi is okay - she is having a bad run poor girl (hope you are okay too). It was me asking about the bed -it looks gorgeous!! I am with you and so happy to keep Paddy in his cot for now but he is going to have to move out soon to make way for his brother. I love the port idea. Stupid question but would some ports go off?

Fi that Peppa Pig cover sounds cute -Cliare will love it!

Tan I hope Will gets over his grumpy stage soon.

Renee I think every miscarriage is different. I started with spotting then a few hours later bled quite heavily and had clots and mild cramping. I then bled like a normal period for a week or 2. What did they say at the Dr's/hospital? It definitely sucks - the whole thing!! It is just so disappointing. I hope you are looking after yourself and taking some time off work if you need it. Somtimes you jsut need to wallow a bit and you are entitled to that. I am thinking of you.

I am in the middle of organising some father's day stuff for Dean. I took a photo of the boys this morning with Paddy wearing a top that says "my dad rocks" and Will in a top saying "I love daddy". I am getting a card made up using it. I bought him a book about Dad's yesterday that he can read with the boys and will get him a massage voucher. He works hard on our renovations etc. and can do with some pampering I think. Now I just have to think of something for my dad which is so much harder.

Anyway better go -hoping to get a little rest in (I am already running out of time). Will has taken to being very cranky every night since Friday night between about 7pm-10pm. Nothing soothes him except having a few sucks of a feed then lying next to my boob (not feeding - just lying there -great!). If I wasn't so paranoid about SIDS I would take him to bed and jsut let him lie there but I like him to go to bed safely on his own so have to sit up until he is settled. Iw as dying to go to bed at 8:30 last night but didn't get there until 11:30 - so tiring!! Oh well -I keep telling myself "this won't last forever". Chat soon.

cath
15-08-2007, 13:24
Oh Hayley -just saw your post. How scary! Poor Ange! I hope little Seth is okay.

Wivi
15-08-2007, 15:00
Oh dear - poor Seth. I hope he is ok. I had a text from Anna this afternoon saying she was taking Alex to the hospital too as he had a croupy cough and was obviously not feeling well. The boys are in the wars!

Well -we juts bought a new fridge. YAY. Won't be here for a few days but at least it is ordered.

Gotta go - Will and Troy are having a stand off about drawing - according to Will everyone else has to draw pictures for him lately.

bingo
15-08-2007, 16:00
Oh the poor boys! I just got Anna's text too and freaked when I saw it. Hope that everything is ok for both Seth and Alex.
Poor little mites. I was only saying to Hayley today that I was worried about Anna coz we hadn't heard from her in so long.

Fathers day! :eek: Oh Cath thanks for the prompt. I need to get moving and thinking. Great ideas you've come up with.

Well I'd better scoot. Need to get dinner organised. I had an arvo nap with Maddi today and we've only just woken up. Big chance its a late night tonight for Maddi.

hayleylea
15-08-2007, 16:22
Yeah ihope Alex is OK! poor little thing. Get better soon little Alex!! Geez the weather and the virus' going around are just shocking arent they!!

just got a message off Ange...They are back home and Seths ok. Ill let her fill you all in on the details. Im glad he is OK!!

Lou - im sorry i cut you short this morning it was great having a chat!!! I ended up head in the toilet bowl after that..i had to run to make it!!!

Gotta go put this boy in the bath but talk soon!

bingo
15-08-2007, 16:45
Hayley - that is perfectly ok. I totally understood when you had to run. It was great to catch up with you for the time we had!
Great to hear that Seth is OK.

Wivi
15-08-2007, 17:24
So glad to hear that Seth is ok.

Here's hoping we hear some good news about Alex too.

Will has turned into the devil child tonight. He does seem to have a little bit of a temp though and has the reddest cheeks ever. Not sure what is causing either of those but boy oh boy - is he cranky!

Ange&Seth
15-08-2007, 18:59
Hello girls,

Well, what an ordeal we've had the last 24 hours. I've never been SO scared in my whole life - actually, I never thought I COULD be that scared in my whole life.

He was sitting on Adam's knee last night, just before 7pm, and leant forward over his legs, which he does quite often playing, but he stayed there for a split second longer than he normally would. Adam felt something change in him and pulled him up again and we realised he was having a fit. PANIC STATIONS!!

Adam jumped up with him and headed to the bathroom, I ran around like an idiot yelling 'what do I do?! what do I do?!' :o I grabbed the phone and tried to find the hospital number (which I actually already had committed to memory - but do you think I could remember it???? GRRRRR!). Then I threw the phone, told Adam to get in the car, grabbed my wallet and flew to the hospital.

Poor darlin was so out of it, it took him forever to come back. Scared the living sh!t out of me.

Anyway, turns out that it is a febrile convulsion - his body overheated, little brain didn't know how to deal with it and shut down for a few minutes. Adam and I both had the same thing when we were kids, so the poor little bugger was predisposed to them as well. Just wish someone had mentioned it before it actually happened!!

So he's in bed again now. I'm so damn tired - so's Adam. Won't be long before we're in bed I don't think. Sleeping in a chair by Seth's bedside is not the most comfortable night's sleep :laughing:

I've probably missed out on info here guys and I'm sorry - if there are any things you'd like to know about what happened, please ask me. Might be helpful for you guys to watch out for too.

Ange&Seth
15-08-2007, 19:01
:eek: What's wrong with Alex?????

bingo
15-08-2007, 19:26
Oh Ange, that does sound so scary. I have heard of kids having fibrile convulsions when they have a high temp. One of my cousins had a few of these fits when he was young. I would have been so panicked too. You've reminded me that I should have all our emergency numbers on the fridge just in case.
Anna just texted and Alex is in hospital overnight. He has the start of bronchialitis but is ok. They are keeping him overnight in case he gets worse and it goes to his chest. Poor little Alex and his poor Mum and Dad. :wizard: Get well vibes coming your way Alex and Seth.

Well Maddi fell asleep at 8pm which shocked me seeing as she had a mega sleep this arvo and only woke up at 5pm. I'd say she's still recovering from being sick. They say sleep is the best cure.
Cath I hope you get that early night tonight and have a great sleep. Maybe DH could do a feed for you tonight?

No more sick babies for us October bunch :fingerscrossed:

hayleylea
16-08-2007, 07:10
Ange...So very scary!!! I must admit i know all too well about sleeping in a chair at the hospital next to their beds and its not fun!!! It must have been terrifying seeing him like that. Im just glad he is OK.

Thats no good about poor little Alex!!! Sending get well vibes to him too!! poor little mite!!!!

OK gotta go Cooper needs my attention..well he actually wants a go on the computer :rolleyes:

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OK theres Coopers 2 bobs worth lol

MrsMiggins
16-08-2007, 12:23
Oh my goodness! It's all been happening here!!

Ange, I'm so glad Seth is OK. We've a slight family history of epilepsy (My uncle has chronic & severe epilepsy & my brother has had a couple of minor episodes) & the thought of seeing one of my kids having a seizure scares the living daylights out of me.

Anna, how scary for you with Alex! I hope the little man is OK. :(

Lou, how's Maddi feeling now? I hope she's getting better. Hopefully that big sleep did her the world of good. As for the port thing, I was full of intentions to buy a good bottle of red to keep for each of my kids, but lo & behold - I've never gotten around to it! If you're going for ports, I'd say to have a look at either a boutique type winery & get something special that's not mass produced, or alternatively go for a Penfolds. If you have local vineyards, see if they do fortifieds. Otherwise, Penfolds are great & they always have a great Port that is suitable for cellaring.

Hayles, how many weeks are you now? Hopefully this ms won't be around much longer.

Tan, is Poko that show where the kid draws stuff? I remember seeing it, but only once or twice. When does your new fridge arrive? Don't worry - I understand how exciting it is! We got a new fridge a few months back & I couldn't wait to get it!!

Cath, IKWYM about it being exhausting getting out with both the kids! We do try to get out most days, even if it's just for a quick walk or out to the supermarket. I find we all go a bit stir crazy if we stay at home all day, but yes, sometimes I sit there trying to figure out if I could be bothered packing us all up just for a quick trip down to Coles! We went to the library yesterday & a friend who just has the one child (a girl a little older than Claire) was parked in front of us. When we said goodbye, she just popped her DD into the car & took off in a matter of seconds. I reckon I was still getting everyone & everything packed up & into the car 20 mins later! :laughing: But then again, I am incredibly disorganised (and Claire had tipped half a chocolate milkshake all down the front of herself & all through the pram :rolleyes: That didn't help!) I hope Will settles better for you soon. I remember Owen was doing something similar around the same age, but he's in bed around 9.30 every night now without too much drama (last night was 8pm! YAY!!). He was also waking up at 5am & not wanting to go back to sleep for a while there, but that too passed fairly quickly.

Did I tell you guys that Owen got his first 2 teeth? I can't remember whether or not I mentioned it. The first one came through on Fri, closely followed by #2 on Sat - he turned 5m old on Sun. He's starting to sit up on his own for a few seconds, before either toppling over, or arching his back & flinging himself backwards. I'm hoping it won't be much longer before he can sit well on his own, because that'll free me up heaps!! lol

I'd better go have some lunch while I can. One of the kids is bound to wake any second now!

Ange&Seth
16-08-2007, 12:37
Hi again guys

We took Seth to the GP today because Adam wanted the doctor to have a look at him. It was easier just to make the appt than to explain to Adam why it really wasn't necessary. We saw a paediatrician at the hospital and he gave us all the info on the seizures, but ya know, Adam wanted Phillip to see him, so off we go - for Phillip to say 'you should see a Paediatrician' :rolleyes: MEN!!!!

But, while we were there, Phillip gave him the once over, which upset him and caused a massive nose bleed :eek: I swear, my nerves are just not up for this sort of stuff. There was SO much blood for a little man! And he didn't want us near his face, so it was hard to get a tissue on there, and he was rubbing the blood all over his face cos he was tired as well. It stopped ok, but omg!!!

He's in bed now and was SO tired, he just rolled onto his side and waited to be covered up, whereas normally he lays on his back and watches his light show before he rolls over. Poor tyke. He slept ok last night, woke at around 2am or 3am for a bottle but was all good other than that. Adam and I were out to it without any mucking around too!

Has anyone heard anymore from Anna on Alex?? I hope he's ok the poor lil thing!

I did read everyone's posts but I haven't taken too much of it in, so sorry for the lack of personals guys. Maybe I need to go have a nap too :o

hayleylea
16-08-2007, 13:06
Ange - Adam sounds just like Trent in these sorts of situations. Atleast you have the info now so next time round (fingers crossed there wont be a next time!!) you will know what to do! Poor little guy and his nose bleed!!!!!!!!! I would have freaked out too!!! Sounds like you have had a rough few days, i hope it settles down for you soon.

Fi im just 12 weeks so I am hoping it will ease soon but honestly it feels like theres no end in sight!!! YAY for your little man starting to sit up and getting his first teeth! :smiliedance:

bingo
16-08-2007, 13:44
:yelclap: My cousin just had their first baby an hour ago. They had a baby boy. No name yet as they have a list of 4 they are still deciding on. And they said he hadn't even been weighed yet he was that new. When I was talking to her they were just attaching the baby to boob for first feed. Ah the memories :rolleyes: . She said he's toddler size. Poor thing had forceps and said that pethidine is her best friend. :laughing:

I'm off to the hairdresser this arvo which I'm excited about. Went to Aldi this morning and bought Maddi the percussion set and the wooden train set. They're both unreal and really good value. The train set is made in germany! She's currently playing with it on the lounge floor as I type this, I can hear Toot - toot!

Wivi
16-08-2007, 18:29
Evening ladies.

Another text came from Anna this afternoon saying that the hospital wanted to keep Alex in for a couple more days - he does seem to be doing better though. Anna is keen to go home and is hopeful that they can do that tomorrow if all goes well.

Oh Ange - what a scary thing to happen! I am very glad that Seth is alright. I had to have a little chuckle imagining you running around saying "What do I do?". I could see myself doing something like that.

Oh Lou - a new bub in the family! How exciting. I can't believe that they haven't got a name for him yet! Wonder what it will be in the end?

Fi - how cute that Owen has 2 teeth. Will took so long to get any teeth that 5 months seem so little! It will be so good once he can sit on his own. Claire will have lots of fun entertaining him then.

Cath - that unsettled period of Will's sounds very unpleasant. Is he about 6 weeks now? I have some vague memory of my Will going a bit strange between 6 and 8 weeks of age. He would lie there awake for hours every afternoon - Troy and I went to bed once at 10pm still waiting for him to go to sleep - we had been waiting since about 2 in the afternoon! I remember that he didn't cry - he would just sqwack every now and then and we thought it was really weird. I hope it settles down again for you soon.

Well - we have had a very strange day today. Will definitely has got some sort of a virus I think. He was awake at about 6:30 this morning and was telling me he wanted to get up but I said no. He asked for some books, so I opened his blind a bit and gave him some books and left him to it. If he isn't interested in going back to sleep and it is after 6:30 (that's my rule) then I do this sometimes and he is quite happy to stay in there for another 30 minutes or so. Anyway I went off to write a report on the computer and wasn't watching the time. At 7:30 Troy came out and asked me what Will was doing and I told him about the books. So he goes into Will's room and finds him fast asleep on top of his books! He didn't end up waking til almost 8. Once he was up he wasn't very happy and wouldn't eat breakfast so I gave him some Nurofen and he cheered up after that. We went to swimming and he had lots of fun there, came home and ate lunch etc before heading off for his nap as per usual. He didn't sleep anywhere near as long as usual but was happy to lie under a blanket with Troy and some books for a while when he got up. I had appointments this afternoon but Troy tells me he wasn't too bad but by the time I got home at 5 -his temp was up to about 38.5 and rising. He started to get snuffly too - but he ate a little bit of dinner. He's gone off to bed with the Nurofen again, some Demazin because he was really snuffly by the time bedtime came around and his vaporiser on. I hope he is ok - Troy has me all freaked out about Influenza A now.

To top it all off we are supposed to be going out with some friends tomorrow night who are just about to have their first bub. I had a babysitter lined up already. I wouldn't mind cancelling if we needed but this couple is already joking about how Will gets sick whenever we have dinner together because the last two times we have arranged anything that is exactly what happened! So I really hope he is ok tomorrow.

Hm - I think I have bored you all enough now. Might head off and find some dessert. I've run out of chocolate which is a real nuisance, have to scrounge around and see what I can find.

MrsMiggins
16-08-2007, 20:24
Oh Lou! That's so exciting!!! You'll have to let us know when they decide on a name. I had a chuckle at "size of a toddler"! Make sure you let us know how big he ended up being - I'm curious now! :detective:

Hope your hair appt went well.

Hayley, 12 weeks huh? Well, hopefully the blasted ms is on it's way out for you!!

Ange! :hugs: You poor things! Hopefully karma comes round for you & you guys have a great week next week!

Tan, oh dear! I hope Will's not too sick & that he wakes up all bubbly & perky tomorrow for you. I can't believe you've run out of chocolate!! I hate it when that happens!!

I hope Anna's going OK with Alex. I might sms her tomorrow just to let her know we're all thinking about her (although I'm sure she already knows that!)

I have to tell you all the funniest thing Claire said today! Normally I try not to have to get petrol when I have the kids in the car, but every so often it becomes unavoidable. In the past few weeks, I've actually had to do it about 3 times! Claire freaks out a bit when I get out of the car for some strange reason, so the past few times I've had to do it, I've tried to talk her up a bit before hand ("We're just going to get petrol, OK? Now mummy has to get out of the car, but I'll be right there, OK? Just look out the window & you can see me." etc.) The first couple of times, she was OK, but yesterday, she started freaking out again.

We had to get some stuff for dinner today & when we got back in the car to go home, Claire says to me "No getting petrol, OK?" I just laughed & said "No, we don't have to get petrol. We got it yesterday, we'll be right for a few days now!" But all the way home she kept saying it "No getting petrol, OK?"

Then later when we were at home, she was sitting on her Dora couch when all of a sudden she stood up & said Bye-bye! I asked her where she was going & she said "I'm going to get petrol, OK?" "I'll be back" and went off into the kitchen! :laughing:

bingo
17-08-2007, 08:17
:laughing: OMG Fi I absolutely wet myself laughing at Claire. She is so so funny. How you hold it together I just don't know. :laughing:
My cousins baby was 9 pound 7oz so he was a pretty decent size but not a giant. I guess he felt like a giant when she was pushing him out. I've just received some photo's on the computer and she must have bought him 0000 wondersuits as its all stretched out, i think by next week he'll be moving up a size. Poor thing still doesn't have a name, they must be heavily debating between names.

I hope that Anna got some sleep last night. At least with Alex in hospital the staff there can keep a close eye on him. Poor family must be so tired and worried.

My hairdressing appointment went really well!!! The color is terrific and the cut is fab. So I finally found a new hairdresser. And its a man! He was so good and the salon gives you a lovely cup of tea and yummy bikkies which rates pretty high on my hairdresserometer. AND when they wash your hair you get a head massage and they use Aveda products which smell so good. DH can't stop touching my hair and nodding with approval. Its so funny.

Oh Tan, I hope Will feels better by tonight so you can go out with your friends. It sounds like he'd just be sleeping anyway. I'm so jealous that Will is happy to lay in his cot and read. If Maddi is not asleep in that cot she wants out NOW. Its so annoying.

Good luck with your petrol head today Fi! LOL.

hayleylea
17-08-2007, 08:34
Hi guys.

Poor little Alex and Annas family!!! Being in hospital sucks but it is the best place to be when the littlies are sick!!! I wish him a speedy recovery and hope Anna is managing to get some sleep!

Fi - OMG Claire is so funny! i cant believe how well she is talking! She is such a clever little thing...and a character!!!!

Lou - glad your hair cut went well. It always feels nice to have your hair cut and coloured!

Tan - how is Will today?? I hope he is OK!

OK enough from me...talk soon.

hayleylea
17-08-2007, 12:39
Hey guys..very quiet in here today! hope everyone is OK!!

Lou i forgot to say congrats to your cousin!! Big healthy bub by the sounds of it!!!

Well i managed to get out and about today and get myself some new clothes and i feel sooooooo much better now!! Retail therapy is good isnt it!!! I was beginging to feel yucky about myself after being so sick so thought what the heck im going to go out and get some stuff for ME!!! So i picked up a few tops - Gotta love the fashion at the moment if your pregnant!!! All the tops are just like maternity tops now really lol..so the tops will grow with my belly!!! And i picked up a few bras! :D

cooper was sooo good shopping...but has decided not to have a day sleep today!! Little bugger! Oh well he is happy enough so far so we will see how he goes for the rest of the day.

Better head off..talk to you soon!

MrsMiggins
17-08-2007, 21:21
I know Hayles!! How nice are all the tops around right now?! I was a bit disappointed though when I bought some & had to take them back (OK, and here's a word of warning for you: 2 kids = say goodbye to being able to try clothes on in the shop before you buy!! :laughing:) because they made me look as though I was still 6m PG!! Well, to be fair, I actually do look as though I'm 6m PG still, the tops just emphasised the fact! lol But I'm happy again now, as I bought one in Kmart yesterday for 20 bucks & OMG it is the nicest, most flattering shirt I've bought in a long time! I wish they had it in a million different fabrics, as I'd have bought them all! But alas! they only make it in the one fabric! :(

Oh, and speaking of Kmart, it's a shame your Kmart is/has closed down Hayley. They've got a gorgeous new range of maternity wear there now - a whole new label in fact. It's all really nice. I was bummed because it came out literally like 2 weeks after Owen was born! If you go somewhere that has a Kmart, it might be worth a look.

So how did Cooper go for you tonight?

Lou, yanno, I always find men cut my hair better than women for some strange reason. I think women tend to have a problem cutting short hair on other women & mine always seems to come out looking a bit "mannish". I had a guy cut my hair when I very first started wearing it short & he was just the BEST! And he only charged me about $20 too!! Amazing!!! I sooooooooooooooooooo need my hair cut!!! Last time I had it cut was a week before Owen was born!! It's almost shoulder length now! I'm glad you had a good experience. And OMG that is so sweet about DH touching your hair!! Awwww! What a sweetie!!

9lb 7oz is not a bad size for your cousin's bub! I hope they're going well. Don't worry about the name. There's a lady I work with who's just had #4 and they never come up with names for their bubs until the baby is about 7 or 8 weeks old! I'm serious! That's without a word of a lie!

Hmmm... as for holding it together with Claire, I'm not all that good at it either! She cracks me up on a regular basis! Last night she was very snuffly & woke up around 10pm & wouldn't go back to sleep. She ended up sleeping on the lounge room floor with Dave, but really only had about 6 hours sleep. Then today when she went down for her nap, she was still snuffly & woke up after an hour. I went in & settled her down & it looked as though she might go back to sleep. So I told her I'd be back in a minute & left the room. After a couple of minutes, I stuck my head back in & she was lying down with her eyes closed, sucking her thumb, so I came back out to leave her be in the hope that she'd go back to sleep. After a few minutes I heard the patter of bare feet on the hallway tiles & sure enough - there she was. I said to her "What do you think you're doing?" Her reply? "I think I'm not going to sleep!" :laughing::laughing:

Ange&Seth
17-08-2007, 22:02
Hello girls :wave:

Tan - was Will any better for you today?

Lou - I can't wait to get my hair cut and coloured again. I usually only go to just cuts cos I don't care too much :o As long as it looks good straightened and can still go back in a pony tail, I'm happy. Though the last few times, they've cut it WAY shorter than I wanted and actually, the last time I had it cut (at Easter time) I came home and cried I hated it that much. I've NEVER cried over a hair cut before.

Fi - I love hearing about Claire and the little things she says. Seth still doesn't string words together so I'm amazed to hear what Claire comes out with.

I hope Alex is doing better. Poor Anna. I was itching to get out of the hospital after 1 night, she must be going insane!

Well, we got a call from the clinic today and they have booked Seth in for an EEG next Tuesday at 3pm. I don't really want him to have it cos I think it will upset him too much, but Adam and the doctor seem to think that it's better to do it now and get some answers ie. is there possibly more to Seth's convulsions than just the rapid increase in temp? Personally, I think I'd rather wait and see if he has another seizure and then decide to do the test. Apparently they'll attach little electrode things to his head and read his brain waves. I have no idea how long it'll take, or how he'll react to it. My biggest worry is that he'll get upset, over heat and have another seizure or he'll get another nose bleed. I suppose, it might help to have the electrodes on him IF he does have another seizure but I don't like the idea of INDUCING another seizure IYKWIM? Adam just said that it's better to know now and at least if anything DOES happen, he'll already be at the hospital, but I don't know. Something just doesn't sit right with me about it.

When Seth got up this morning, he'd had another blood nose but nothing too major, just had some dried blood below his nostril. He had another one yesterday afternoon too, just after he got up from his arvo sleep. I just don't know what's happening or what to do.

We're meant to be leaving for Tassie next Saturday and I'm waiting to hear back from the doctor whether he can fly or not. I'm really hoping that the answer is yes, and I can't see there being a problem, but it always helps to be prepared doesn't it.

Hmm, well I don't think I've got anything else to whinge about :laughing: oh hang on, yes I do!! I'm sick. I woke up yesterday morning with a sore throat and today I feel like RS. It was unbelievable. I've taken some cold and flu tablets though so feel ok now, just very very thirsty.

Well, better head to bed. Adam's away all weekend and I'm heading to mum and dad's. Hopefully they can give me a bit of a break with Seth.

Talk to you all soon. Hope all is well with everyone.

hayleylea
18-08-2007, 08:28
Morning guys

Fi im with you though some of the tops make people look way too pregnant but there are some nice ones about!!! Some nice material and patterns coming out now!!! I still get the Kmart catalouge and have managed to check out their maternity range. Ill definatley keep them in mind. I didnt have any maternity clothes with Cooper. I was still in my normal jeans till about 2 weeks before he was born and i just brought a size larger tops so i was lucky like that.

Ange - Im with Adam with the EEG - it might upset him but he might be ok and its better to find out if something is wrong or not. (:fingerscrossed: everything comes back clear! im sure it will!) Im a bit of a worry wart with stuff like this so thats why id probably opt to have it done. Especially with the nose bleeds etc on top of the seizure. Goodluck with it all and make sure you let us know how it all goes. I TOTALLY understand your worries though with thinking it may bring on another seizure or nose bleed...tough decision! :hugs: Have fun at your mums.

Trent came down for the night last night to my mums which was excellent!! Ive missed him alot! Cooper had a ball with him and again this morning, I was planning on going home with him this morning but he has to pull down a shed ALL weekend so he wont be at home and i spent most of last night throwing up so i will stay here and Trent will come down tommorrow and pick me up. I actually feel pretty good today so far...must have got rid of everything last night :o

Anywho i better get going and have a shower..

Talk soon!

bingo
18-08-2007, 11:39
Fi, I'm still laughing. "I think I'm not going to sleep"! How old is Claire again???? :laughing: . Look out teachers when Claire starts school. I actually think that Maddi is getting more teeth? There's 2 year old molars aren't there? Well Maddi has been sticking her hands in her mouth and been a real grizzle bum these past 2 days. Its driving me up the wall. The whole routine of "I want that" then straight after you give it to her "I don't want that". Grrr.
Well my cousin named her baby with our boy name Mathias. I LOVE that name. Its my grandfathers name and it would be ridiculous for us if we had a boy to call him that too. I know I shouldn't be sad as the chances of us having a boy and all of that jazz but I can't help but feel a tad selfishly sad. But he is very cute and his mummy looks so good in the photo's.
Ange, one of my friends just had their little girl go through the exact same thing. Her daughter had siezures everytime she had a high temp so she ended up having the brain scan. She was all worked up about it and worried it would upset her daughter. But in the end her daughter was that curious about the wires and stuff that she was a gem and sat really still. She was glad in the end that they did have the scan as they found the reason why she was having the siezures. So now they are armed with knowledge ect.
Hayley, that was a pretty long post for you these days. Does that mean your feeling better? I hope so!
Yeah getting to the hairdresser is so hard with kids isn't it! Its like mission impossible.
Well I have a lot of things i want to do today, including getting a present for baby Mathias. So I'll talk to you guys soon.
Any word from Anna lately???

hayleylea
18-08-2007, 11:58
Lou - Cooper has had his fingers in his mouth constantlly the last couple of days too. His 2 year old molars keep coming up and down! driving me nuts wish they would just come and stay!

Mathias is a pretty cool name! I have no boys names what so ever picked out....actually i lie Trent and I actually agreed on one today - but its not one im totally in love with so im still on the lookout!!!

Do i feel better?!?!? hmmmmm yeah i guess i do!! Im 12 weeks so im hoping its starting to go away!! I feel pretty good at the moment as long as i keep something in my tummy. I still loathe food at the moment but do my best to get something down and keep it in there!

I wrote anna a message on MSN today...Shane said she was feeding Alex and will be around later so that must mean he is home! I hope all is OK :):hugs:

Wivi
18-08-2007, 17:08
Hi everyone,

Sorry for not posting the past couple of days - I have just been quite busy.

Will is ok - it must be the same weird virus that Ange has as for a couple of days he was drinking heaps and heaps and not eating very much. He also has this very husky voice but otherwise seems ok now. He's eating well again. Being such a good sharer though - I know have the sore throat too.:thumbsdown:

Lou - I am jealous of your new haircut! So glad you found a good hairdresser too. I totally agree, cups of tea, nice bikkies and a head massage are all on my essential list too.

I've got no idea about teeth - Will has one eye tooth left to get as well as the 2 year old molars. The eye tooth looks close but I haven't a clue about the molars and I am not poking my finger in his mouth to find out! For the past week he has been putting everything and anything in his mouth but I think that's just him copying this kid at creche last week who was doing it to be naughty!

Fi - your daughter never ceases to amaze me. "I don't think I am having a sleep!" :laughing: What a cack!

Oh yeah -Mathias is a cool name. I like that one too!

Ange - I think like the others have said I would do the EEG thing too. Then you get answers and as Lou said Seth might just be too fascinated by what's going on around him to bother too much. I understand the concern you have though. I'd be stressed too. If you have the test and it is normal then you'll be right to fly - no probs. If they find something then you'll know how to manage it and you and Adam will feel a bit more confident.

Hayles - so glad you are feeling better. I hope it continues for you. I bet you were glad to see Trent too. I'd hate spending that much time without Troy.

Mind you - here comes my weekly whinge about Troy. Do your hubbies/partners fall asleep on the lounge and just assume that you will look after your child? Or worse still - fall asleep when you are not home? Troy does it all the time. This morning I took Will out all morning to see some reles that were visiting and then to the shops. He fell asleep on the way home and had a good 2 hour sleep so Troy did nothing with him all day practically til 2pm. I told him I wasn't feeling very well and was sitting on the lounge and next thing he lies down on the couch for a NAP! I mentioned to him that I didn't really think that was fair and that I had looked after Will all morning. Did it make a difference? Not one iota! He was snoring not very long afterwards. And because he does it so often Will took no notice at all and just kept playing and annoying me. When I try to do that the little monkey comes over and yells "AWAKE!" in my ears and pokes me in the eyes or something. Geez I was peeved.

Oh - and we did go out for dinner - I decided that unless Will was seriously unhappy we would go and he was fine. Dropped him off at my friend's place and he snored the whole time til we picked him up at 11. So it was all good.

Alrighty - better get going. Hope you are all having good weekends.

Seeya

Katcha
18-08-2007, 21:03
Ange, that must have been really scary with Seth having a seizure. I would have been freaking out! I think it's a good idea for him to have the EEG done. Either he'll be given the all clear, or they'll find something & then you'll know how to manage it in future. Hopefully the EEG won't upset Seth & he'll just find the leads amusing.

Oh that's no good that little Alex has been in hospital. Hope he's OK now and that him & Anna have gone home.

Fi, Claire's a crack up. I can't believe some of the things she comes out with, & I'm so impressed with her being able to say sentences. Katelyn still doesn't talk much, apart from a lot of babble that only she understands. She does say some words, but certainly can't string even 2 words together yet.

Hayley, that's good to hear that you're feeling better. I hope that the morning sickness disappears completely soon.

Tan, sorry to hear Will hasn't been well, but that's good that he's on the mend now. Lovely the way they love to share all their bugs with us though, isn't it? I'm still getting over the last one that Katelyn gave me over 2 weeks ago!

Lou, I think Katelyn must have a tooth or 2 coming up because she's been a bit sooky at times lately & pointing to her teeth & chomping on her hands or anything else she can find to put in her mouth.

Cath, when I went to the doctors last week she told me that I should only bleed for a few days....like a normal period.....I then told her that my periods generally last for a week, then she just told me if it gets heavier or I'm in a lot of pain to go to the hospital. I think she must have thought that I was just starting to bleed properly then because I told her that a big clot had come out....(sorry if TMI), when in fact I'm still just spotting! Anyway, I saw the sonographer who did my US at work yesterday & she said that the next time we work at the same place together she'll do a scan on me to make sure that everything's come out so that I can start TTC again. I want to start TTC again ASAP. I was hoping to have my 2nd (& last) baby popped out before I turn 30....time's ticking! I turn 29 in less than 2 months. But at the moment though I'm just making the most of not being pregnant and since I still have this stupid cold I'm taking whatever medication I want! Plus I just had a beer.....been a while since I've had one of them!

bingo
19-08-2007, 06:56
Renee - how handy that you can just pop into work and get another ultrasound. The benefits of working where you do! It sounds like your coping pretty well and ready to roll for another try. Please don't tell me that over 30 is over the hill - I'm 34 and we're yet to have another, hearing you talk like that scares me:eek: :laughing: .
Tan, DH doesn't fall asleep on the couch because I don't let him. He'd end up with a bucket of water over his head. He just complains about how tired he is and that alone drives me insane. I feel like shouting back "Your tired?!?!?!". I don't think he knows what tired is. His mum make me so angry when she comes over, shes grabs his face and says oh you look so tired you really should look after yourself, you do too much. And while she's doing that i can feel her sideways glance bore into my head. Grrrr!
Has anyone spoken to Anna yet? I'm just wondering how they're doing since they got home.

hayleylea
19-08-2007, 08:39
Hey guys!

Tan - Trent falls asleep on the lounge and it erks me soooooooooooooooooooooo much!! He doesnt do it looking after Cooper though. But sometimes when we sit down for a nice night together he falls asleep within 10 minutes and i get so angry. I poke and prod him but he is impossible to wake up most times. If its night time i turn off the Tv and heater (in winter) and leave him there and head to bed by myself. HE wakes up hours later and then complains how sore his back is from sleeping on the lounge! well HAHA to you MR! lol. I cant wait for him to do it again especially when he has had a few beers and fast asleep because im going to get my water spray bottle and spray his crutch area and make him think he peed himself! LMAO!! ive been meaning to do it for ages but havent done it yet lol. Mean arent I??! *MWAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA insert evil laugh here* Im Glad will is OK....

Renee - Good to hear from you again and im glad your going OK. Good about the ultrasound too! Goodluck TTC aswell i hope all goes smoothly for you!!! Cooper is like Katelyn too....He babbles in his own language all day with a few words here and there but he basically talks his own launguage and knows exactly what he is saying lol. He has started to string 2 words together here and there but he is definatley not talking in sentences like some of these smart little cookies!

Lou, Nope havent heard from Anna yet. Hope all is ok there! ive tried talking to her a few times without luck yet.

I woke up feeling pretty good today. Mind you Cooper woke up a 5am so i put him into bed with me and he lent over and gave me a kiss cuddled up to me and we both slept till after 8 so i was happy with that. We will hopefully be heading home midweek. we were going home today BUt the hotwater system is stuffed at home so Trent has to get that fixed before we can go! (drama after drama i tell you!! And thats without telling you what my beloved Axel the dog did!!! - he is suffering seperation anxiety from me we think. Poor little mite!)

OK better go my sister just got here with her kids.

talk soon!

bingo
19-08-2007, 13:04
Boy is it quiet in here today.
Woo Hoo looks like Hayley might be on the road to feeling better. Thats great! We've missed you on here Hayley.
I've been so bored today. I just spent half an hour trying out new avatars on here. This morning Maddi and I have been outside enjoying the glorious weather. I've been moving big stacks of wood to more safe places. Maddi is now having a day sleep in her BIG bed. Its a miracle. We laid there together and had a rough and tumble, then I sang her some songs and she went to sleep. We'll see how long it lasts :rolleyes: .
Well I suppose I should make the most of my quiet time while I can. Maybe I'll organise some photo's on the computer. Hayley where do you get your photo's done? I remember you saying ages ago you found this really good online place for cheap.

Katcha
19-08-2007, 13:22
Hey Lou, don't worry, I don't think 30's over the hill! It's probably more that when I'm 30 James will be 45, so he'll be bit over the hill!

Hayely, great to hear you're feeling good this morning. Hope the ms stays right away!

Well, we're off to the footy this afternoon after not going for the past couple of weeks because we've all been sick. Can't wait. Katelyn's been driving me crazy this morning. She seems to think it's funny to take her shoes & socks off & take her pigtails out. I don't know how many times this morning I've had to put her hair back up & put her shoes back on. At the moment she's running around with one shoe off & one shoe on.:rolleyes:

Anyway, I best be off & start preparing for the footy.

hayleylea
19-08-2007, 13:25
yeah im not too bad now! mind you i went shopping with my sister and all my eyes went funny and i couldnt see and i had to sit down and only just made it back in the door and had a big spew..but i dont feel too bad and thats the main thing.

Cute new Avatar lou!

Hope everyone is OK :)

Ange&Seth
19-08-2007, 13:46
Hello girls :wave:

I've just read the posts and had to take notes so I don't forget stuff!!!!

Hayles - It's SO good to hear that you're getting better. I've missed you heaps LOL! I like your idea with the water bottle for when Trent's asleep on the couch - can I steal it :devil6: What a bugger about your hot water service!! And the door! Poor Axel must be going crazy without you there.

Lou - Seth's going through the 'I want that' 'I don't want that' stage too. He points to stuff and says 'Ta' so you give it to him and he snatches his hand back and walks off shaking his head. Gets SOOOO frustrating doesn't it! Thanks for the info about your friends' daughter, how old was she when she had the EEG done?

Tan - :hugs: to you for not feeling well. Get some cold and flu meds into you quick smart, I should have jumped on mine before it got to this point. OH and don't get me started on how annoyed I get with Adam falling asleep on the couch!! It annoys me at the best of times but really makes me see red when he's meant to be watching Seth. He doesn't do it very often, and most of the time he's just worked 12-14 hours straight all week so he IS really tired. Still annoys me though.

Renee - Good to hear that you're coping well chic. Enjoy the beer!! I really missed my scotch while I was pregnant with Seth. Make sure you knock the cold on the head, mine's giving me the irits!! Seth doesn't talk much yet either. He babbles away in his own little languauge and I'm positive that Cooper, Will, Maddi and Katelyn would all understand and happily talk back. Claire might still remember a bit of baby language, but I think she's having too much fun growing up :laughing:

Yesterday, Seth and I did the housework and then came down to mum and dad's. I really hate leaving the house with stuff not done, cos it's a real drag to go home to I reckon.

Last night we jumped in the hot tub for a bit, and then Seth went to bed. Poor bubba's got a bad cough and the anti-biotics I have for him taste foul so it's really hard to get him to take them. I just have to persist, but he gets so upset.

Today we went shopping with Nanny Niece (my mum) while Poppy Mark stayed home and watched car racing. We got Seth's hair cut (not that there's much TOO cut LOL) and it cost $16!!! I couldn't believe it! It looks really good though so I'm happy enough but I just think $16 is a bit steep, especially as it was only at Just Cuts. Does anyone else think that's expensive or am I just a cheap skate? I won't be offended if you think I'm cheap, but I'm just interested to know what others think of it.

Seth's in bed now and we were going to go home today, but I'd almost like to stay here until tomorrow now I think. Hmmm, will have to have a think about it.

Better go and put a jumper on I think, I'm getting a bit cold!! Talk to you all soon, has anyone heard from Anna yet?

bingo
19-08-2007, 15:20
:laughing: Thats OK Renee. No offense taken.
Ange, my friends little girl was 3 when she had her scan done and it was only about 2 weeks ago actually. She is booked in for a MRI in December which has got me curious how they're going to do that coz thats in the big white tube thing and I don't know how she's going to stay still in there being 3 and all. Renee - any ideas how they do that?
Ange I read HOT TUB and went "Awww I'm jealous". Thats exactly what I could do with right now.
Well Maddi woke up at 4pm! 2 hour sleep in the big bed. Mind you she has woken up a very cranky Maddi. Boy oh boy! She didn't know if she wanted a mum cuddle or not and would get down on the floor and cry then come to me for a cuddle then want to get down again. She's now sitting on the couch watching Hi-5 eating a blueberry muffin quite happily. I can't wait for her Dad to get home which should be soon. I need a break!
Ange I reckon stay at your mums and enjoy yourself. Then you'll get tea cooked for you too. Oh to have mums cooking tonight. Speaking of cooking I better get organised :hair:

Moorish
19-08-2007, 16:11
Oh cr@p there's seriously like a THOUSAND pages to catch up on here :gloomy: .

Ok guys, forgive me if it takes FOREVER for me to catch up but it won't be today.

Yep I'm still around and missing you all like crazy. It's been a really tough few weeks and I really want to thank all of you for texting, emailing, pm-ing and thinking of us especially this last week or so.
A lot has been going on and I guess it's all based around the kids (yep, all of 'em) being sick, so finding time to get on here in any decent amount has been impossible.

Chelsea and Nicola have had on and off colds since before Alex was born but have generally been coping ok with it all. Immy on the other hand has been struggling on and off for nearly 8 weeks now, having repeated courses of antibiotics. She too caught a cold but hers developed into an upper respiritory infection about a month ago and we couldn't stop the coughs and green snotty nose (charming :rolleyes: ). A dose of antibiotics didn't cut it and a week after she finished she got worse again. Back to the Dr's and we discovered she had 2 very badly infected ears as well :crying:. Back on antibiotics again this time with a repeat if needed. She's about 1/2 way through the 2nd back to back course now and is much better. Snotty nose nearly gone and coughing only light and not bothering her too much now. Amazingly her spirits have been high and she's become well aquainted with the tissue box and is happy to wipe and blow her own nose now (so cute!) Chelsea and Nicola are both pretty much over their colds now too - so here's hoping :fingerscrossed: this is the end of it all.

However this brings me to poor little Alex. He was very snuffly for over a week but I didn't think much off it as he was very snuffly from birth. However things got bad quickly and he developed a cough and then his breathing became laboured. He also was feeding less and power chucking all of his milk up as he was coughing so hard. Took him to the GP on Tuesday and was told he has a virus and to put saline up his nose to clear it to help him breathe. The next day Alex was worse and by the afternoon we were in hospital. He was diagnosed with bronchialitis and we ended up staying 2 nights - he had oxygen and a nebuliser on the first night. He nearly went back on oxygen so many times over the next couple of days as his levels were dipping while he was in a deep sleep phase but he always came right. They were finally happy to send us home on the Friday afternoon. That night he chucked up 3 feeds in a row so at 5am I was throwing loads of washing into the machine and dryer getting ready for another hospital stint, but his feeds have been ok since. I give him lots of burps during his feeds and don't let him get too full so if he does have another coughing fit his diaphram doesn't bounce away on his tummy -which causes him to chuck. His discharge weight from hospital was 4.55kg (10lb) and he didn't lose any weight which was great.
Alex is 6 weeks old today and tomorrow we have all our 6 week check ups at the clinic & OB, then with the paediatrician on Wednesday.

Hmm... what else? Oh yes, Shane and I went to the primary schools quiz night last night with Alex (his first night out!). We nearly cancelled but we rugged Alex up, took the big pram so he could stretch out and all was good. The hall was really toasty, Alex had his first ever bottle of formula, my milk supply is all over the show because of the nurses in hospital so I decided to skip a feed to let more milk come in - and so I could have a few drinks! LOL! The night was fantastic, we won the lucky door prize - $190 voucher to get our car serviced from Motors, as well as a meat tray from our local butcher! Woohoo! I'd bought a deli platter from coles and put together another platter of dips, and Shane and I went through 3 bottles of a choice white between us! LOL! I avoided "Harry" by skulling heaps of water overnight but I won't be doing that again anytime soon!

Over the last few weeks Immy has really changed. She's saying new words every day, becoming cheekier (if that's even possible) and is growing up fast! Alex is due to smile ANY DAY NOW! He's given me a couple of 1/2 smiles and looks intensly at me when I talk to him, he also loves laying under his play gym looking up at his toys, and is quite strong already and holds his head up when he's on his tum.

I've been so slack with photos lately but here's a few I took before Alex got sick. I'll leave you with these for the moment as I have to go make dinner. Feel free to give me the updates on what's been happening but I really want to read back through anyway.

Hopefully things will go back to some sort of normality for me now - I have so much more to catch you up on and I'll be back very soon!
xoxo

Kids 1 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augpics2080.jpg)
Kids 2 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augpics2075.jpg)
Chelsea & Alex (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augpics2088.jpg)
Nicola & Alex (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augpics2091.jpg)
Immy & Alex (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augpics2096.jpg)
Alex (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augpics2068.jpg)

hayleylea
19-08-2007, 16:19
Anna - you poor thing! sounds like you have had a rough rough rough trot the last few weeks!!! Havent got time to write a big post but just wanted to send you a :hugs: for each of the kids and a few hundred for yourself!!!! Hopefully things improve over the next couple of days!!! Not what you needed with a newborn around!! Good on you for getting stuck into the wine too! and avoiding harry (im impressed!)

OK gotta go..good to hear from you again Anna.

Wivi
19-08-2007, 17:01
Well hello everyone especially Anna! My - what a hectic few weeks you had. Poor little Immy sounds like what Will was like a few months ago - it took him about 8 weeks to get it all sorted out too. Hopefully she is "on the up" for a little while now! And as for Alex - that doesn't sound pleasant at all. Poor little guy and poor Mummy & Daddy too. That all sounds very scary but glad to hear he is improving again. Oh and very cute pics - Immy looks so grown up now!

All that said - it has been a busy day today. Some friends had their baby baptised today and then they had lunch etc at the grandparents place. Well - as I suspected today was the first day ever that Will didn't really have a sleep and to be honest it was probably more my fault than anything else. He fell asleep in the car on the way to lunch and he woke up a bit while we set up the portacot. Anyway - he was obviously in a strange house etc and it is a really big house and I kept popping back to the room to see if he had gone off to sleep ok. In the end it was probably me that kept him awake as I poked my head in every 15 minutes or so. He lay down for an hour and a half basically and was quiet but no real sleep. Oh well - he has survived the afternoon alright and is still going ok now but I think he'll be in bed before 7 tonight. He was actually very good at the party - they live on 5 acres and he had a lot of fun.

Hey Lou - well done on Maddi having 2 hours sleep in the "big bed". How exciting! I know what you mean about times when the kids don't seem sure about what it is that they want. I've stuck Will back in bed with some books when that has happened here before and 20 minutes later he has been all chirpy. Sometimes I wonder if he just hasn't woken up properly or something.

Renee - you sound as though you are coping ok with the m/c. I hope that you can TTC soon too. I didn't realise you had sucha large age gap with your hubby. Totally understand the keeness for another bub soon in that case.

Ange I am jealous of the hot tub too. Can you e-mail it to me??? I'd give anything even for a bath right now. So relaxing.

Hmmm - I had better go. Will is out of the bath now and I think he is starting to get a bit cranky. Might need some nice Mummy and Daddy time I think!

Katcha
19-08-2007, 20:18
Hayles, hope you're still feeling OK after that spew you had!

Ange, sounds like Seth needs to take the antibiotics that Katelyn just finished. I think it was amoxicillan.....same stuff I remember I had when I was a kid...really yummy & Katelyn thought so too. She got all excited each time I gave her a dose & wanted more after! Oh, & I don't think you're a cheapskate. $16 sounds a bit much for a toddler's hair cut! I don't think I pay too much more than that for a hair cut at Just Cuts for myself! Not that Katelyn's ever had her hair cut before (apart from James cutting her fringe)...I don't think she'd keep still enough to have a proper hair cut!

Lou, I don't do MRI's myself & I certainly don't scan too many kiddies, (I panicked the other day when I knew a 9-year old was coming in!) but I would imagine that a 3 year old would have to be given some sort of sedation & have their head held in a restraint so that they can't move. I know back when I worked in the hospital for some scans on patients who were cloustrophobic the nurse had to give them sedation just so they could get through the scan.

Anna, great to have you back here. Lots of :hugs: to you and your family with all the colds they've had. I'm glad Will's out of hospital now & hopefully he gets better real soon. Oh & well done on winning the door prize at the quiz night! :) Love the photos as well. Immy's so cute holding Alex. :yes: Don't know that I'd trust Katelyn holding a bub!

Tan, yep 15 year age gap between me & James! But sometimes, the way he acts, you'd think he was the younger one! :laughing:

Oh yeah, and we had a great day at the footy.....our team absolutely belted the opposition! Plus Port beat the Hawks just beforehand so it's just been a perfect footy day for moi!

hayleylea
20-08-2007, 14:44
Anna - just checked out your pics. Very cute!

Renee glad to hear you had a good time at the footy!

Im having a bit of an off day again. Im just soooooooo tired. I even had a nap which i dont usually do. Cant complain though because the MS is definatley easing.

Anyway hope all is well with everyone. Very quiet in here today!

MrsMiggins
20-08-2007, 21:15
Hey guys!

Wow you lot have been chatty again!

Welcome back Anna! You guys sure have been through a lot! It's just an awful winter for illnesses all round Aust I think this year. We too have been almost permanently struck down with colds (thankfully minor) but both Owen & I have nasty, phlegmy coughs we cannot shake.

I'm glad Alex seems to be on the mend though. And sounds like you guys had a great night at the quiz night! You did well on the wine!! I wish Dave drank wine, it'd be nice to have someone to enjoy it with!

How gorgeous about Immy & her new words! They're all growing up so fast, aren't they?! What a good girl blowing her own nose! Claire runs screaming 9 times out of ten when you come anywhere near her with a tissue!

I wasn't able to see your photos unfortunately, as we are having yet more computer issues. I'll be glad when we finally are able to overhaul this stupid old dinosaur! We were hoping to get it done before we move, but looks as though now it'll be afterwards.

Hey, is anyone here with Virgin Broadband by any chance? We saw a big ad in the paper last week, and their deal sounds awesome, but when I went to check out the coverage areas, our new place isn't covered. So frustrating!!! I'm thinking that maybe because it's only fairly new, they are only covering major centres first up. It's so stupid!! It's not like we live out in the middle of bloody nowhere here!!

Ange, ouch! $16 does sound like an awful lot for such a little haircut! Maybe they're thinking more about charging like a minimum hourly rate or something than the actual work it takes? I dunno, but yeah - $16, I'd balk at that too!

Don't worry, Claire still does a lot of baby babble! She just throws a few sentances in every so often. I was just saying to Dave tonight that her individual words are becoming much clearer of late, but she still definitely has moments where she's asking for something & keeps repeating the same word over & over and she gets so frustrated when you don't know what it is she's trying to say.

Renee, that's wonderful you're keen to start TTC again. Hopefully it'll all go well for you & you guys will be PG again quickly. Funny you should say about Katelyn taking her shoes & socks off & pulling her pigtails out! Claire has been taking her clothes off lately when we're at home. Normally I don't worry about it too much, but it's been a bit cold & rainy the past few days & she's had a bit of a cold, so I don't want her running around half naked! It's so annoying when she takes her socks & shoes off because she leaves them in little hiding places & I can never find them! (What I wouldn't give for Claire to have enough hair to be pulling her pigtails out!! :laughing:) I actually wondered about how kids & claustrophobes go in MRI's! I am quite claustrophobic & the mere thought of having an MRI is enough to bring on a panic attack! I would definitely need some heavy sedation (a stiff belt of scotch would do!)

I don't think I knew you & James had a larger age gap either. There's 9 years between Dave & I (he turns 40 in October!!! :eek:) so IKWYM about the cramming kids in while you can! I forget that Dave is an old fogey though! Ideally I'd love 4 kids, but we'd like a bit of a gap before #3, so I'm not sure #4 will ever eventuate. I'm not all that sure I'd be able to convice Dave in any case! I used to say (back in my youth! *sigh!* *splutter!* *choke!*) that I'd like to have all my kids out of the way by the time I was 30. I think 30 seemed really old then!! I barely scraped in having my first by the time I was 30! I found out I was PG with Claire on my 29th birthday! I definitely want #3 well in advance of my 35th birthday though. At least then I might have a shot at 4.......

Tan, that's great that Will was so well behaved even after missing a sleep! How'd he go for you tonight? Sounds like he had a blast today! I bet he sleeps like a log!

And O-M-G! Here I thought I was the only one who's other half fell asleep on the couch all the time!!! Grrrrrr!!!!! Don't worry all, it gives me the irrits too!! What is it about our wussy, narcoleptic men?! They do half a days work & you'd think they'd run a bleedin' marathon! Dave's idea of "quality time" on his own with Claire is to lie on the floor while she watches DVD's. :rolleyes: Can you imagine what the world would be like if we left them to raise the children?! (Obviously they're not all lost causes - Renee, James was/is a SAHD, isn't he?) I mean, credit where credit's due - Dave is a great dad & he loves the kids & is always reading books with them etc, but I think if he had to spend one full day alone with the kids he'd burn out!! (And that's without his butt ever leaving the couch!)

Lou, yay for Maddi having a big nap in her big bed!!!! That's awesome!! I can't believe you had nice weather yesterday! It really highlights just how far apart we all are I guess, as we had the crappest weather yesterday & today! We had been having really warm, summerish weather - it was even staying quite warm overnight. Then all of a sudden, it came over all cold & windy & rainy and I've had to get the kids winter clothes out again!

Hayley, I am so glad the ms is easing off for you!!! I'm sorry you had an off day today, but if you can see the light at the end of the tunnel, it may help. Let's hope tomorrow is a better day for you!

I laughed so hard about using the spray bottle on Trent!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That is a classic! You'll have to let us know if you ever do it! (We want photos!!! lol)

OK, just a quick update from me, as I not only have my doubts that this whole diatribe will fit into one post, but I have had a shocking run of late nights & interrupted sleep lately, so I really must get to bed!

Nothing very exciting happening. I can't remember if I mentioned that we will be moving around the first/second week of Sept. Not much in the way of packing has been done as yet! I'm dreading it!

Claire has been a bit snuffly & missed her daytime sleep yesterday. She was falling asleep at the dinner table, so went straight to bed & was asleep by about 6.30, but then she woke up at 10.15 & wouldn't go back to sleep til about 2am!! I sat with her on & off until about 11.30, but then I had to go to bed so Dave had her out in the lounge room again with him. He said she just kept wandering around though, playing with her toys & reading her books, so he took her back to bed & slept on the floor in her room. Apparently she kept climbing out of bed & he kept putting her back in & she eventually went to sleep. Hopefully she'll go back to sleeping through tonight! We're all buggered!!

Owen is going well. He's almost sitting up on his own! He did it today for several seconds, but is still very wobbly & falls backwards or to the side.

OK, I'd better get to bed! Night! Night ladies!!

cath
21-08-2007, 09:18
Hi everyone,
I have been keeping up with reading the posts but haven't had time to reply for days!!

This one might have to be a quick update from me then I will come back when Paddy goes to bed.

I have been busy doing all sorts of stuff and have managed to do myself some damage which is so annoying. I think I have torn something somewhere in my caesarean area and it feels like I have just had surgery!! I can't see or feel anything from the outside but it really hurts now and I am a bit worried. I had a crazy shopping day on Thursday and got the pram and capsule in and out of the car several times and walked around the shopping centre for 4 hours (I had a lovely time shopping without Paddy to need entertaining and managed to get heaps of bargan clothes) which I think might have been a bit silly. I have also been walking around quite a lot pushing Paddy in the pram and carrying Will in the Baby Bjorn carrier and maybe I was doing too much too soon (I was feeling fine though). Now I have to get checked out and feel like I am back at the start and will have to go through 6 weeks recovery again -damn it!! I really just want to resume my normal life. Caesareans are really not the easy option. I rang my Ob yesteray but he is away so am seeing my GP on Wednesday then I have my "6 week check up" (which will be at 7.5 weeks) with the Ob next Friday. I just hope I haven't done anything really bad (I am scared that I will need surgery again or something horrible -I bloody hope not). It is a really horrible pulling/tearing type of pain in my abdomen -not good! I have to be careful rolling over in bed and everything again -I am so annoyed about it.

Anyway Will is doing really well and Paddy has totally settled down about being a big brother and is totally loving towards Will which is great. Will smiled for the first time last night (at Dean -I haven't been smiled at yet even though I am the one tending to his needs in the middle of the night -how rude!! -I saw the smile at Dean though and it was so cute) and he slept from 10:45 until 6am last night-wooohoo!! He was 6 weeks yesterday -where has that time gone?

I have to stay home today because of my stupid pain and Paddy is going a bit nuts already -better go and entertain him for a bit. I will be back later. Something has happened to my messenger and I can't get it to come up. I will have to get Dean to fix it tonight. Hope everyone is well and I will chat soon.

hayleylea
21-08-2007, 10:15
Cath i was wondering where you have been! sorry to hear about your injury - I hope its nothing too major!!!! Im glad Will and Paddy are going good too!

Fi , good to hear from you again too! If i ever get around to the spray bottle thing ill definatley let you know how it goes! I really cant wait hahahaha. I think it will be very very funny! I hope you all managed to get some sleep last night!!

Not a great deal going on here. Im feeling OK today....so thats good. Cooper is being good. He is such a character at the moment. He cant help but dance everytime he hears music (which is almost every add) Even if he is sitting on the lounge he starts swaying from side to side. Its so so cute! I really cant wait to get home though. My mum has been a great help but im really home sick at the moment! Everything should be back in order by the end of the week :fingerscrossed:

OK thats enough from me. Ill talk soon.

Moorish
21-08-2007, 10:51
I think I'll wish for a laptop for Christmas!
That way I could just laze on the couch or in bed and catch up on things here.

Ok I have good news, average news and bad news.

Good news - My ob appointment went well yesterday. Had an examination done (yay. . .) and my cervix has gone back into place! :smiliedance: However the average news is that I still have some front wall weakness which is causing my bladder to sag a little into the area (this is what I've been able to see and thought it was my cervix). So no operation needed (yay!) but still lots of pelvic floor work to do to make the front wall stronger - it may never be totally fixed though but it's not causing any pain and everything "works" down there. Apparently this sort of thing just happens and the more people I talk to about it, the more common I'm finding it is . . . strange. It's just one of these things that isn't talked about.

More good news, Alex had his 6 week check at the clinic yesterday and gave me his first ever full faced smile! :yelclap: The CHN said when she was examining him that she didn't think it would be long as he was staring at her and interacting with his eyes and body movement, then not 10 mins later I was yelling for Jan to come see! He had this massive smile and his whole mouth was open! Shane was upset that he missed it but glad that he'd smiled at me and not someone that wasn't family! LMAO! He's smiled again once today so I'm sure we'll get a few more very soon.
We also spoke to the OB yesterday about circumcision - wanting more info. He said that if we decide to go ahead then he could perform it in the next two weeks under a local - otherwise it'll have to be later, through a paediatric surgeon under full anesthetic, but they wouldnt' consider it for Alex while he's sick. We've been talking to family members about it and everyone has such a different opinion or story to tell so we're so confused. The only reason we'd consider it is because urinary tract infections run in the family - I had them for over 10 years when I was young, and so far Nicola has had 3 & Immy 1 so who know's where Alex will fit in to it all. Such a tough decision . . .

Bad news is that I've all of a sudden been hit with something and I'm so unwell. I've been a bit achy but I though it was just from sleeping in the hospital chair but yesterday while we were at appointments Shane asked if I was ok and I didn't think I was. By 5pm I could barely move, all my muscles from my neck and back to my pelvis, arms and legs were just aching like crazy. I was in bed by 7:30 and drifted off to sleep with a huge headache that I'd had all day. Panadol did bugger all and at 4am I took some ibuprofen that was within reach. 20 mins later I was up again on the toilet (leave it to your imagination) but the ibuprofen seemed to help with the aches a bit so my friend Lou is going to buy me some today and bring it over. Been awfully cold during the day then really hot in bed, but then by about 3-4am I'm flipping the blanket on high again as I'm freezing and can't move. I'm freezing right now and the bl**dy heater is doing bugger all!

Alex was a little turd last night and was feeding so much (3-4 times). It nearly killed me being up so much and I didn't sleep from 3am - 5am because he just wouldn't go back to sleep. In the end I brought him into bed with me (Shane was next door again :rolleyes: ) and he slept fine. I thought he was just out of wack from being in hospital and bein interrupted all times of the night but my CHN said that at 6 weeks they go through a growth spurt so here's hoping that's all it is. (OHHHHH how tempting is it to give him a formula feed at 11pm!) I'll get through it I'm sure. Shane's being a pill and is doing bugger all to help out over night, then I wake in the morning (this morning) to find a batch of my favourite cookies sitting on the stove for us today. So hard to stay mad at him. There's a few things going on at the moment, nothing I can really talk about, but it's getting me down a bit. Don't worry, we're ok, but just something I can't talk about on the forum.

Fi - I hope you ditch that dinosaur soon and you at least get your upgrade when you move house. How much longer to go? Do you have anything lined up yet? I didn't think that people in QLD got sick?! I'm surprised to hear that you've all had a dose of it too. So funny to hear of your little nudist! None of my kids are thank goodness but I have a friend who's daughter would disappear for all of 5 seconds in the supermarket and she'd round the corner to the next isle to see her "angel" dancing around - butt naked - amongst the noodles! PMSL! So it could be worse I guess! LOL!

Cath - I'm so sorry to hear that you're back at square 1 with your recovery. I guess it wasn't worth it to resume life too quicky. I really hope you make a fast recovery. I'm like you with the clothes shopping however - I just pick up stuff here and there - yesterday I scored a $25 piping hot hooded jacket for Alex for $5! Nothing flash - nice and warm but I wouldn't have paid $25 for it anyway. It's a size 2 so won't fit him for ages yet but I'm sure I'll appreciate the $5 spent now when he does wear it!

Tan - you sound like you have such a good little boy on your hands lately! How are Will's sleeps going? Immy is STILL having 1 or 2 sleeps a day - I don't blame her though, she's been so unwell and if she wants to sleep I'm not going to stop her!

Hayles - that's SUCH good news to hear that your MS is easing now! I hope that it keeps up that way and is all over very soon! Did you guys make a decision yet about moving overseas for work? (Sorry, I still haven't read back over the pages yet). How's Cooper going? Glad you're getting the chance to take a nap here and there. I plan on doing it today too. My friend Lou is bringing Chelsea home from school and she's been so tired lately and has been taking a few naps so if I can (hopefully) co-ordinate all the kids, I might take 40 winks on the couch.

Lou - when did Maddi start in a big bed?! Tell me more! How's she going in it? Is it just during the day or at night? Oh *grumbles* I really must start reading back - I've missed so much!

Ange - again something I've missed. What's happening with Seth? Convulsions? EEG? Are you still coming to Hobart to come see me?! (Priorities Anna!:rolleyes: ) Oh gosh I hope he's ok. Oh and $16 for a kids haircut is wrong - I moaned a little while ago about someone charging us about $11 or something for our kids.

Renee - I'm so sorry to hear of your m/c. How many weeks were you? Good on you for wanting to TTC again so quickly but just remember to take your time - but you know you're own body I'm sure. I thought I was the only one who wanted the whole "all my kids by 30"!!! According to Shane I've done it - I'm 29.5 at the moment but I did hint that I still have plenty of time if I still want another! (I'd LOVE another little boy but doubt I'll get it!)


Oh we splashed out the other week and bought ourselves a set top box with a hard drive ($$$) but it's SOOOOOOO worth it! We can tape up to 2 channels at a time and still watch normal tv, we can rewind "live" tv that we're watching and it means I have something to watch during the day when I'm sitting feeding because there's usually a few shows I miss from time to time. (Thank you baby bonus!)

I'd better go - Alex is due for sleep time me things and Nicola has been constantly "HUNGRY" the whole time I've been typing (although most of it is an attention thing - she misses Chelsea when she's at school). We've been trying to do the whole feed, play, sleep thing but missing a lot of the "play" but he's had a good kick around under his play gym so off to bed for him now!

Be back soon, might make myself a hot blackcurrent - always makes me feel better and warms the bones.
xoxo

Leave you with some pics - funny Immy this morning, got her foot stuck in a tissue box and couldn't get it out! LOL!

Alex (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augshots052.jpg)
Alex part smile (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augshots051.jpg)
Immy tissue box (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augshots053.jpg)
Immy tissue box 2 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augshots054.jpg)
Immy tissue box 3 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Family%20shots/Augshots055.jpg)

Ange&Seth
21-08-2007, 11:04
Hello again girls :wave:

I thought I posted yesterday but I just checked back and I didn't. Weird huh, must be losing my mind (what was left of it!).

Renee - glad you had fun at the footy!! It's been ages since I've been to a footy match. Adam's a rugby man, and I can't stand the game. Give me AFL anyday!!!

Cath - I was wondering where you were too!!! I hope you haven't done too much damage to yourself. You'll have to let us know how you go at the Obs.

Fi - what a MAMMOTH post!!! I hope Claire's sleeping pattern goes back to normal for you. Seth was being a bag of rats today and I just thought to myself 'I could NOT handle a newborn AND him at the moment'. How exciting that Owen is almost sitting up on his own! They really do grow up far too fast.

Anna - glad to see you back chic!! Hope everything settles for you and you all get well soon. This time next week I'll be on my way to Hobart to meet you on Wednesday - doesn't that sound surreal :laughing:

Tan - how did Will go without a day sleep? Another mum I talk to has an Oct baby and she's given up her day sleep already, much to her mum's disgust!! I don't know how I'll cope if Seth gives up his day sleep too soon.

Lou - how's things with you chic?

Well, like I said, Seth's been a bag of rats today. We've started leaving his door open at night since he had his fit, and he woke up early this morning and saw Adam when he went down the hallway to get ready for work. So he called out to Adam 'hello' and Adam sort of had to get him up! It was 7.15am :eek: That's SO early for my boy! Worked out pretty good though really, cos I wanted to put him down for his day sleep early so that he'd be awake in time for his EEG this arvo, and he went down at 11.30am.

Speaking of the EEG, it's at 3pm so I'll let you all know how it goes. I'm trying not to think about it too much. Adam's coming home at 2pm so at least he'll be with us too.

But back to the bag of rats!!! This morning, Seth smashed a bottle of worsterchire sauce on the kitchen floor. Then he upended a box of cheerios on the carpet in the loungeroom (at least there wasn't any milk with it), he again wouldn't take his anti-biotics, and basically was just an all round pain in the butt!!!! Felt like all I did all morning was chase him around the house saying 'Seth! No!'. Hopefully he'll be in a bit better mood when he wakes. He did wake last night around midnight with a coughing fit, so he's not well. Just sometimes it's hard to remind yourself of that when he's being so naughty.

Today we officially started using cloth through the day. I bought some Pea Pods nappies and they are fantastic!! I'm itching to buy some more actually. Modern Cloth is really addictive!!!

Can't think of anything else to say at the moment. I need a coffee!!! Talk to you all soon.

Oh and thanks for letting me know that I wasn't being a Scrooge with the whole $16 haircut thing. I know at the hairdressers near us, it's only $10. I think he'll be going there from now on.

Wivi
21-08-2007, 11:48
Oh my goodness - all these big posts to read!

Fi - what is it with kids and sleep when they are a bit snuffly? Will's daysleeps go haywire when he is snuffly too. I really hope that Claire had a better night for you last night -that sounded very tiring. How exciting about Owen sitting! He must be so big now.

Oh and thank you to everyone about their DH stories when minding the kids! I think Troy and Dave are secretly brothers or something, they sound so much alike sometimes. Right down to the golf obsession.

Cath - I wish I could pop over and give you a hug. You sound very sore. I really hope it is all ok when you see the Ob next. In the meantime - what an excellent sleep Will had for you! I hope he keeps it up.

Anna - I hope whatever bug has gripped you buggers off soon. That's not helpful at all is it! Here's hoping you have that nap too. Oh - that's great about the set top box too. We've had one for a few years now and it's fantastic. We've almost worn it out I think!

Hayles - so glad you are starting to feel better and that Cooper is being an angel for you. Looking forward to seeing you around here a bit more too.

Ange - I hope Seth's EEG goes ok today. I know what you mean about them being naughty when they are sick. It's so hard not to get frustrated with them isn't it? I'll be thinking of you guys come 3pm.

OK - I'm not sure what I said to suggest to everyone that Will has been really well behaved lately. Maybe it's just that I've stopped whinging about when he is naughty. He has his moments - including his very funny efforts to have a tantrum. He runs and dives on the floor making whinging noises but he doesn't actually move again. We usually just keep doing whatever we were doing and he hops up in about 10 seconds. Or the whinging becomes pretend snoring noises and then he jumps up again and says "AWAKE!" It's so hard not to laugh at him sometimes.

I think it was Anna who asked about the day sleeps. Generally Will has been sleeping about 2 hours every day still - but they have been a little shorter the last few days (since he got snuffly and the sore throat). We decided he must be a bit sinusy and sprayed his nose with saline last night and put the vaporiser on and he had a much better night's sleep too. He has been sleeping ok at night but was waking earlyish - last night he went right to 7:30 which was good. Oh - he was yelling out Daddy at 4:00am but Troy went in to him and he was still asleep - the dreams that kid must have!

OK - I think this is a long enough post. Hi to Lou and Renee as well, and anyone else I might have forgotten.

Chat soon

cath
21-08-2007, 12:28
Oh man - just had to read the additional posts after my post this morning -I am so going to miss some stuff so forgive me.

Ange good luck for this afternoon with the EEG. The whole seizure episode sounded awful and the blood nose at the Dr's didn't sound fun either. You have been having a rough trot. I hope you have a great time in Tassie (you're still going yeah?). Sounds like you are meeting up with Anna - how exciting. I can't wait until I get to meet up with someone some day -will be so much fun. I was telling my mum yesterday about my good group of friends from here who I have never met and I think she found it a bit strange. THe $16 haircut was definitely a bit steep. We got Paddy's done for $7 (which is very cheap I think -they only charge Dean $10 and me $13 -it is a funny little Vietnamese hairdressers near where we live).

Tan that is hilarious about Will's half tantrums -funny kid. Good to hear Will survived okay on the day he just had a rest rather tahn a sleep. Paddy occasionally doesn't have a day sleep and really it is no big drama for us now and then thankfully (we just put him to bed earlier which I love). What's with men and their naps? Dean doesn't get to do it much because I don't let him (he so doesn't need it - he gets a solid night's sleep every night) but when he does he is out like a light and I have to drag him awake again -he would nap for hours.

Anna you poor thing -I hope you feel better soon. You can not afford to be sick. Isn't it always the way that the night you really want the baby to have a good night they are up all the time.Will did that to me the other night when I was feeling exhausted and really needed a decent sleep -he decided he would like to be fed every 2 hours for most of the night. I love your photos -what a cute little man and Immy suddenly looks so grown up. I hope Immy, Nicola and Chelsea are all starting to feel better and poor little Alex is recovering okay. How full on for you!! It is just awful that Alex had to be hospitalised. I was wondering what that meant for you - you had to sleep in a chair?? What about his feeds - did you just have to rest in a bloody chair and wait until feed time -sounds horrible. Good work with enjoying a few glasses of wine the other night and winning the prizes -sounds good. I have been having a glass of wine or a light beer pretty regularly at night to wind down (after Will's feed of course). Did Shane bake early this morning? If so I am so impressed - there is no way Dean would ever do anything like that (don't think he even knows how to make a cake or biscuits actually).

Hayley good to hear the MS is slowly easing up for you. I hope it continues to get better. How cute about Cooper dancing every time he hears music (even ads) -hilarious. Well done with the shopping and getting new clothes. That's what I was doing when I probably injured myself last Thursday -I really needed some new tops and you are so right - heaps of the tops are perfect for being pregnant. Have you made a decision about PNG?

Renee I hope your system gets back to normal ASAP and you can TTC again soon. I was like that too and was just hanging to get pregnant again. Enjoy those beers while you can and good to hear you had fun at the footy.

Fi good luck with the move -that is so soon -poor woman -what a job! Dean turns 40 this year too - I used to think 40 was old but it so isn't. Dean and I were laughing about how when we were young it used to seem weird if someone at primary school had a 50 year old dad but now it will be totally normal. I hope your little night owl decided night time was for sleeping again. How cute about Owen almost sitting -that is a whole new world for them. I hear you about not trying clothes on in the shop -I am constantly taking clothes back that I haven't tried on until I get home and are then wrong.

Lou that is great that Maddi had a nice big day sleep in her bed -how exciting! I remember you mentioning that you liked a boy's name starting with M and now we know what it is. Mathias!! What a cool little name. How annoying that your cousin has used it -I understand you being sad about it -it's annoying when stuff like that happens. That's great your haircut worked out well this time. The cheap photo place Hayley mentioned is getdigital (www.getdigital.com.au) -I have been using it for a couple of months and have found it to be great -they deliver them to a local pharmacy for you for $2 -it is excellent.

Okay better go. Just got an email from my SIL who is helping us try and find a new home for our remaining dog Ruby (it is really not working out having a dog -she is just too boisterous for Paddy and he is now scared of her). Paddy is spending some time with Dean's parents tomorrow and then will be at my Mum's on Thursday and I am going to try and mostly stay home and rest so will be on here again soon. Ange let us know how Seth goes and good luck. Chat soon.

ETA: Here's a couple of photos from the weekend. Will is looking so much like Dean I think.

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4443.jpg

http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/?action=view&current=IMG_4446.jpg

Wivi
21-08-2007, 13:05
Grr - spoke to soon and jinxed myself. Will had a mega short sleep today. :fingerscrossed: it has something to do with the annoying virus we both seem to have!

hayleylea
21-08-2007, 13:15
Wow...talk about a talkative bunch! What mammoth posts!

Anna - How cute that Alex is starting to smile. I love that stage. Sounds like things are starting to get a bit better for you now! Goodluck with making the decision with circumcision. Such a personal choice...just do whatever you guys feel whats right. Ive told you before that I can tell you my experience with Cooper and his circumcision (having been in the room for it, just let me know). As for whatever is happening that you cant talk about on the forum..i hope it fixes itself soon. If you want to talk on MSN give me a bell. Im not on a great deal these days but im not usually that far away. I also hope you feel better soon. ACtually i hope the Moore family doesnt have any sickness in that household for a long time! I think you have had enough lately! cute photos by the way. Oh and you will have a ball meeting Ange and Seth - they are GREAT!

Ange..talking to you on msn now so wont write much to you. Goodluck with Seths EEG though. I hope all goes well.:hugs: Hope Seth got over his naughty little side when he had a sleep today!

LOU - yep getdigital.com.au is where i get my photos done! GREAT!!!!! Only catch is you have to over a hundred at a time.

Tan - LOL at Wills attempt to chuck Tantrums. Cooper use to throw himself on the floor but he has since gone up a level and now throws whatever he has in his hand. Or he bangs his hands on the ground. They dont usually last long though because if he bangs his hands on the ground he comes running over to me to kiss his hands better rofl!!! Whoever was askinga bout Day sleeps.. Cooper still has one a day - ranging from 2-3 hours with the average being 2.5. There are days where he skips it now and then but really only if we have something going on.

Cath - poor thing having to find Ruby a new home. But it sounds like its the right thing to do! I know it can be hard with dogs...just thought id give you one of these :hugs:

OK i should probably go...

its nice to be back girls! ive missed you all and not posting very much lol. Im B-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-C-K! hahahaha.

cath
21-08-2007, 13:23
Oh Tan don't you hate it when you jinx yourself - always happens!

Hayley it's great to have you back!!

hayleylea
21-08-2007, 13:26
nice photos Cath! Yep i think Will looks like Dean too....and theres definatley no mistaking who Paddys daddy is either!!! how alike are they!! Nice photos!

Moorish
21-08-2007, 14:48
Cath I agree, your boys are definately their fathers sons! :D
The chair I got to sleep in at hospital was a cushy vinyl recliner that reclined pretty much all the way out. They're quite new and I was actually fairly impressed about how comfy they were however sitting in them 24/7 for a few days didn't do much for my back and neck but I wasn't game enough to sleep on a stretcher in the meeting room - no WAY was I leaving Alex alone.
Shane baked the biscuits last night and took some to work, I had no idea what was going on downstairs last night as I was in bed before all the girls. He took some to work and they all loved them (they are SOOO more-sh, pardon the pun) and I'll have to post the recipe here (hmm, or have I already?) Anyway, tomorrow he has a morning tea and is going to make some of my famous lemon/lime friands to take - I hope he gives me credit for the recipe! LOL!

Hayles I'm SO looking forward to meeting Ange - I just hope she doesn't think I'm some old desperate housewife type! LMAO! (I'd be a cross between Lynette & Bree if that's even possible!) We're meeting up with a couple of other Hobart chickies so it should be fun! Oh and I'd LOVE to hear your circ story too - feel free to pm, email or msn me about it. Trying to gather valuable information on it is like pulling teeth.

Tan I jinx it all the time :( . However today I did not! Currently (AMAZINGLY) I have all 4 children snug in bed napping - even Chelsea & Nicola who are (amazingly again) asleep in the same room! Usually if they're not tired they just chatter away - which is fine, so long as they're in their room having some quiet time! I doubt I'll get this opportunity much so I'm off to the couch to watch some taped shows on my box! LOL (SO much fun! CR@P! I forgot to tape Hi-5 for the girls! :eek: :banghead: )

Shane is going to just DIE when he comes home. I've been freezing all day to the bone so I lit the fire all by myself (I'm not totally incapable!) and just to give you an idea how hot it potentially is here, I set the heat pump to 30 degrees this morning and it's cut out and not coming back on meaning the temp in the room is constantly above that. Feeling warmer now, but still aching all over.

Off to snuggle on the couch.
xoxo

Most yummy fudgy chocolate two-times cookies - best eaten 5 mins out of the oven! (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/IMG_0002-1.jpg)
(Click on the little box to expand - or try printing it out)

hayleylea
21-08-2007, 15:24
Anna just sent you a PM about my Circ Story...(well not mine Coopers! :laughing: ) ahhh its good to have my sense of humor back LMAO

MrsMiggins
21-08-2007, 21:09
Excuse me ladies if I fly through the personals tonight - I've promised myself to be in bed before 10.30!!

Cath, great to hear from you again! I'm so sorry to hear about your soreness. I really hope it's nothing major. I had some discomfort around about the 5 or 6 week mark after Owen, and while it wasn't as bad as you described, it turned out to be nothing. Well, it may have been due to the whole "retained placenta" thing. Just make sure you take it easy (yeah, I know that's far easier said than done!) Glad you got some nice bargains today!

Hayley, you know something? You are starting to sound more like the bubbly old Hayley! Back to your old self - you must be feeling better! :D

Anna, my goodness woman! Do you ever get a break?! As for the circ thing, I can only really give you our experience. Owen is not done. Dave just assumed that he would be done & when I asked him why, he really had to think & couldn't come up with anything better than "It's just the done thing, isn't it?" lol Men! So for us, there was no good reason to have it done & it's not something I felt comfortable doing, so he hasn't had it done. It's such an intensely personal thing, and while it may help to hear everyone else's viewpoints, you are the ones who have to be comfortable with the decision. So whichever way you go, don't listen to any nay-sayers after the fact. I think the fact that every man & his dog seems to have an opinion on the subject only makes things all the more difficult.

lol about your friend's nudie kid!! And hopefully Alex will be more settled for you tonight! I hope your'e feeling better. Are you still taking a multi-vitamin? I find that helps stave off illness quite well (usually!!) As for no-one getting sick in QLD - pfffft! I don't think anyone in QLD currently is NOT sick! There has been a massive influenza A outbreak here (a child & a healthy, middle-aged man have died from it) so everyone is in panic mode.

Tan, oh no! I hope Will sleeps better tonight! :hugs:

Ange, how did Seth go today? I hope it wasn't stressful for either of you. :hugs:

Well, I thought our cruddy weather was all over - this morning we awoke to a glorious day of warmth & sunshine. Fast forward to 4.30pm when I was coming out of Coles with the kids after doing some grocery shopping & the sky was B-L-A-C-K! Dave was telling me tonight that apparently there is a cyclone warning out & all the staff at the golf club thought "what a load of rot!" as there was nothing showing on the radar - then all of a sudden it just shot in out of nowhere! The weather here is notoriously unpredictable - it can change almost instantly from one extreme to the other.

At the moment it sounds like there is a cyclone going on!! It's almost scary!

Anyway, I should be away to bed now (it's getting dangerously close to 10.30!!) Hopefully the house will remain intact until morning!!

Ange&Seth
21-08-2007, 21:48
Ok, AGAIN I have taken notes :o I don't want to forget anything, and the way I am at the moment, I can't seem to hold onto a thought for much longer than a few seconds. If I didn't know any better, I'd think I was pregnant LOL!!! RELAX - that was a JOKE!!

Tan - Isn't it so hard not to laugh at the tantrums?? Seth's are usually quiet protests, he just sits or lays on the floor. Sometimes though, he puts on a performance, but that's usually because he wants me instead of Adam, or he thinks I'll cuddle him after he's gotten in trouble with Adam. I find it really hard not to laugh at him though when he KNOWS he's done something he shouldn't have, and the cheeky bugger gives me this look, I can't describe the look really but it seems to say 'you love me, I can do what I want!!'. Yeah, he has a little finger, and I'm wrapped around it :rolleyes:

Cath - How are you feeling? I know we can't expect miracles, but are you feeling any better? Could it possibly just be muscle strain?

We need to find homes for our dogs too. How many have you re-housed? We have 3 dogs, 2 jack russells and a border collie and I'd like to find homes for 1 jack russell and the collie. As much as I love my border collie, he gets so bored and jumps the fence so he has to be tied up most of the time and it just makes me sad. I want him to have the attention he deserves, he really is a beautiful dog. Then we come to the jack russell, who Adam brought home about 3 years ago as a 'charity case' and he was just 'rescuing' her until he could find her another home. There WAS another home for her, but he turned it down GRRR!! This dog is a little yapper and drives me insane. Add that to the fact that she isn't fixed and is currently nursing her second litter of puppies which I also have to find homes for. The other jack russell is old and quiet and just has a beautiful nature. She's content just to sit and be near you, so she doesn't take much extra time or effort. How did you go about finding your dogs new homes?

Anna - I seriously doubt I will think you're a desperate housewife, I've never watched an episode. Who are Bree and Lynette?? Hope your aches have settled!

Fi - That storm sounds intense!! Hope you're all ok and your house is still standing come morning. Did you try to call me tonight, or was Claire maybe playing with the phone??? I had a missed call from you.

We're still going to Tassie. I checked with the doctor that Seth will be ok to fly and he will be, I just need to put some drops in his ears before we get on the plane and make sure he is chewing on something while we take off and land. It all seems a bit surreal to me. Like, I know that I'm going home, but it hasn't really dawned on me yet, if that makes sense? I kinda go in waves of excitement and then *shrugs* whatever.

I msg'd my only friend from school in Tassie, only to find out that it's now her husbands number LOL. We had a good chat and I've told him not to tell her that I'm coming home, and I'm just going to pull up at their house on Monday to surprise her :D It should be fun. I haven't seen her in 3 years and she'd only just had her first baby then, she has another one now.

So, so far, my trip will go like this:
Saturday - rock up at my sister's house for her son's 1st birthday party LOL SURPRISE!!!
Sunday - brother, sister and grandparent visiting
Monday - Hana visiting
Tuesday - head to Hobart to visit family
Wednesday - meet Anna and Co
Then Thursday, Friday, Saturday I have nothing planned and Sunday we come home!!

Ok, having another wave of excitement now LOL!

Seth's test went amazingly well. I am so unbelievably proud of my little boy. He's had so many people poking and prodding him this past week, he's got a bad chesty cough and he's just not really himself. Today, we got there and they put the little mesh hat type thing on him and he cried a bit, but sort of settled ok when he realised mummy and daddy were still there (he was sitting on Adam's knee and I was sitting facing him) and that it didn't hurt. Then they put the electrodes on (all 21 of them!) and then attached the wires and heart monitor. They wanted him to lay down, I didn't think they would, but I said to him 'can you please lay down for mummy bubba?' and he did !!!! Just before that I'd explained to him that it didn't hurt and that he needed to be a good boy and sit still otherwise it would take longer, just like the medicine did today (more on that later) and he must have just totally understood me!! He laid down there for about 40 minutes and he was such a good boy!

He shocked me again tonight when it came time for his anti-biotics. Adam tried to give them to him and he spat the first bit out and was going to cry and I told him that we just needed him to swallow them first time, then it would be over with and he could have some milkyway (bribery is excellent LOL). He then stopped crying as much, opened his mouth for the syringe and SUCKED THE MEDS OUT OF THE SYRINGE as Adam was pushing the plunger!! My precious little thing!! I am astounded that he understood me.

I have more to say but I think that this is long enough now!!! We really have been typing MAMMOTH posts girls - LOL back to the good ol' days :D

MrsMiggins
21-08-2007, 22:23
OMG! Ange, I am so sorry!! Yes, it was Claire playing with my phone. Was it around 7.30pm? I was getting dinner on the table & the little ratbag *ahem* darling decided to help herself to the contents of my handbag! (Then proceeded to have a tantrum when I took it all off her!)

Apologies to you & anyone else who keep getting odd phone calls & blank text messages. Particularly those of you with names starting with an 'A' (I know Anna has been priveleged enough to receive a few also!) Claire seems determined to run up my phone bill!!

That is sooooo great about Seth today!! What an absolute angel!!! I bet he gets some extra special cuddles for being such a good boy! And yes, milky ways are great bribery! Also works well in this house - the Little Bites fudge brownies :yes:

OK, NOW I AM GOING TO BED!!! Note to self: Click start, then Shut Down.....

Ange&Seth
22-08-2007, 07:27
:laughing: It's ok Fi - Seth has sent MANY blank text messages from my phone and made lots of calls too I think. Usually it's Adam that gets them but sometimes he manages to call and msg people from pool comp :o They know now that it's just him playing around and have a bit of a chuckle. How he manages to get the blasted keypad unlocked, I'll never know!!!

Yet again, Seth was up early this morning. I woke up to him climbing on me and the blind was half open - thanks Adam!! Seth's now running around being a pain in the butt again - he's just got energy to burn this kid!!! So far nothing has been smashed or spilled but it's only a matter of time, I'm sure. He's now playing in the sink and to be honest, I just can't be bothered telling him NO again and again and again. He gets that enough from his dad!!

Adam annoys me sometimes in that he doesn't give Seth enough credit or just let him be a kid. When Seth and I go to the supermarket or down the street, he holds my hand or walks beside me. If he's not listening to me, then I'll grab his wrist and I MAKE him do as he's told, but most of the time I can just say 'Seth, this way bub' or 'come back here please' and he does. He knows that he has a choice, he can listen or be forced. Whereas with Adam, he grabs Seth's wrist and won't let go, he gets cranky at Seth when he tries to touch things (he's a KID!!!) and he won't just let him have a bit of freedom. When the 3 of us are out together, I try to do my own thing and let Seth have a bit of a wander (always with me 3 steps behind him) but Adam's constantly interfering yelling 'Seth, get BACK here!!!' and it really frustrates me.

Ah well, we don't do stuff like that often, but I think from now on I'll have to be firm with Adam and just tell him to back off and watch, maybe he'll see there's no need to be so strict with Seth all the time. Adam does what his father tells him to do because his father tells him to do it, and that's what Adam expects of Seth which I don't think is fair. Like, Adam will tell Seth not to touch something, which is perfectly fine for him to touch, but Adam said don't touch so he inforces it :banghead: Silly men!!!!

That was the other bit that I wanted to say last night but thought the post was too long already! Talk to you soon, I need to go clean up the mess in my kitchen LOL!!

hayleylea
22-08-2007, 08:22
Hey guys

Yeah Fi, definatley feeling more like my old self thats for sure! had a rough night last night and didnt sleep a wink and was sick again but feel ok this morning :D

Ange - What a good little boy Seth is! And as for Adam give him a kick up the butt lol!!! Im just so glad that Trent doesnt have his fathers influence on him (they dont really talk and dont really know each other that well) Because im sure there would be alot of differences in Trents way of fathering if they were close!

Its a miserable day here today, im still sitting in my Pjs but i am about to have a shower and then head down the street to get Coops out of the house.

Last night while i couldnt sleep i started thinking about Coopers bday party this year and we are going to have a Teddy bear party with Coopers Ted being the main theme lol. Im going to do a replica of ted for his cake and make a pinata of Teds face and a pin the nose on Ted for the kids to play!! Cant wait!!!! HE will love seeing Ted everywhere!!! hahahaa!!

Anywho i better get to it. Talk soon!

cath
22-08-2007, 13:44
Hayley you poor thing with no sleep - you need your recovery time right now.I hope you are resting up now and feeling okay. Cooper's Ted party sounds fantastic- great idea!! I can't believe our little ones are going to be 2 soon -so scary. I was just talking about it with Dean the other night. At this stage we are going to have an afternoon tea so Paddy can still have his sleep and hopefully it won't be too much work. I will just make a cake (some sort of animal or maybe a car) and some gingerbread men and other afternoon tea type stuff and hopefully we will just have it here (if Ruby has gone to a new home by then that is-it will be much easier if we can use the backyard as with both families we get to 26 people or something so a bit of space is handy).

Ange that is so good that Seth handled the EEG well -what an amazing little boy. They can be so good and grown up sometimes. What were the results -hope all is okay? How exciting you are still off to Tassie -it will be great. We have so far rehoused one of our 2 dogs and now the second one is hopefully finding a new home soon. It is sad and I never thought I would be doing it but it really has to be done. It is just not working out having little kids and boisterous dogs and we have this great big back yard that we are not using because of the dogs (we could do all sorts of things to separate the dogs but you still have to pick up dog poo every day and it is all just too much). The poor dogs really haven't been getting much attention since Paddy was born and I think they will have better lives elsewhere. My brother and his girlfriend took our Staffy because they have always loved him and they have a young Staffy who was bored and is now loving having a playmate so that has worked out well. We have just been asking our families if they know anyone who might want a dog and amazingly they are finding us people. Dean's sister works at a high school and has asked around the school and she might have found someone. Do you know anyone who works at a place like that where they have contact with lots of people to try and get new homes for some or your dogs (sounds like you have your hands full)? There are websites you can register on to give away your dog but there are hundreds of dogs looking for new homes on them so it might not work that well (I just did a google search on give away dog or something like that and found these websites). Good luck with it.

Fi I hope you got to bed before midnight (10:30 wasn't looking good seeing as you were posting at 11:23). Hope that cyclone didn't eventuate too.

Anna those biscuite sounds great -I will be making some of those. Hope you are feeling warmer today and got some rest last night. How good are your kids all having a nap at the same time -that is fantastic!

Well my stomach area is feeling much better today and I have seen the Dr and he has checked out my caesarean scar and said it looks good and he can't feel anything wrong and I probably just pulled muscles which are now healing (you were right Ange). Thank goodness! I have learnt my lesson now - I can not spend all day running around for a while yet. I find it so hard to stay home but after my rest day yesterday I do feel much better today.

Anyway Will is yelling out when he should be asleep -probably has a burp to do (it is often his problem - he is a guzzler and then has wind issues). Better go. Chat soon.

hayleylea
22-08-2007, 15:06
Hey Cath good to hear your feeling a little better today. And your idea for Paddys party sounds good! We end up with heaps of people here too and even if i start the party at 11 there will be no chance of Cooper having a day sleep on his bday because they dont ever leave to late lol!

Ive had a bad day again today,...i went down the street (not for long i might add) but obviously long enough because i got home and i have had my head in the bucket a few times this arvo!! Doesnt matter though because i dont feel that BAD!

anywho better go...talk soon.

bingo
22-08-2007, 20:48
Oh Lordy its been busy on here and I've missed heaps. Ange - like you I had to take notes as my memory is non existent since.............oh I can't remember when :laughing: . So funny coz when I read your post my first thought was "OMG she's preg!". Then I read the next sentence and PMSL.
Anna, its so good to hear from you again. You've certainly had your hands full with a very sick family and how you find the time for anything else amazes me. How is Alex going? Has his lungs all cleared up now? I can't believe that both Will and Alex are past the 6 week mark. The time has flown right by. Good to hear that Alex will take a bottle of formula no problemo. I still remember Maddi's first bottle of formula coz it was rather traumatic. Vomit everywhere! That was the day we found out she was allergic to cows milk protein. I lurve those photo's of the girls holding Alex. OMG Immy looks so grown up holding her little brother. And high-5 on winning that awesome lucky door prize. What a bonus!
Tan, the baptism sounded like fun. I think its amazing that Will is happy to at least be left alone in a strange room even if he doesn't have a sleep. I think I've mentioned a few times before that Maddi would never lie quietly if she was in that situation. She is such a stubborn girl. Maddi's day sleeps are all over the shop. She tends to have an hour and half to 2 hours and then some days she wont sleep at all.
Fi, we use westnet for our broadband and their service has been top class. I think they might be pricey but whenever we've had a problem they have been really fast and friendly. I've been thinking about you and the storms up there. Like you said hard to believe the difference in weather between here and there. Its been really nice sunny days for us. Today I was wearing a t-shirt at work. I was so tired reading about Claire climbing out of bed that night. I haven't moved Maddi into a big bed at night yet for that reason. At least with the cot she's caged in! I've experimented with the big bed a few times for a day sleep and although she sleeps really well in it getting her to sleep initially is a battle. It involves me laying down next to her until she's gone.
Cath - so relieved to hear you didn't damage your ceaser. I mean when you think about it you've had pretty major surgery. Make sure you take it easy and let your body mend! The photo's of the boys are cute. Will is a dead ringer for his dad I have to agree. Paddy is looking more like you as he gets older I think?
Hayley, woo hoo sounds like the further you get along in this pregnancy the better you are feeling which is a good thing to hear. Its nearly the end of the week and that means you get to go home to Trent. He must be excited to have his family back.
Ange, your holiday in Tassie sounds like fun, fun, fun. I'm so jealous that you and Anna are going to meet up. Make sure that you get lots of photo's to show us all. Seth is such an angel. Great to hear that the test went well and its all over with. Its amazing for a kid of his age to lay still for 40 minutes.
Renee, good to hear you had a great time at the footy. You need to spoil yourself! Actually I was talking to one of my workmates today and she's heading over to Perth in September to see the Waifs. She said the tickets were pretty cheap. I didn't want to point out to her that the flight over there was probably going to cost a bit of $$$ too. But hey Perth is a great holiday!

I've had a headache all week long that hasn't wanted to budge. Went to the osteopath today so I'm feeling a bit better. I ended up only working half a day on Monday because I felt so dodgy. Work is hassling me at the moment as there is a full time managers role being advertised and they want me to apply. Its great money with a car and its the job that I have targeted in my career path. Just the timing sucks. I'm in a dilemma what to do? Maddi has been much better this week, she's finally recovered from her cold and is back at creche where she has been really happy. They have been having dress up week for "book week". Yesterday she went as little red riding hood and today it was Maisy mouse. Let me say I am hopeless at sewing so god help me as she gets older and is much more fussy about dress ups.
Maisy mouse (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/maisy.jpg)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/maisy2.jpg
Well my work week is over and I am ready for bed! "see" you guys tomorrow!

Ange&Seth
22-08-2007, 23:41
Why am I not in bed :banghead: Because I'm silly and thought I'd wrap presents and write in cards and inbetween that I jump on here and then decide to put a dvd on in the background, then decide to pack Seth's suitcase, then get on here some more!! I'm silly.

Cath - I'm glad to hear that you didn't do yourself any serious damage!! Make sure you take it easy for awhile. Thanks for the advice on finding homes for the dogs. We're like you guys, we have a massive back yard but can't really do much in it cos of the dogs. It'd be nice to have a garden out there.

Lou - what do you think you'll do with the manager's position? Will you still have a shot at it after you're finished having kids? Could you take it on, do it for 12 months and then take maternity leave and come back to it? Is it that kind of job? Tough decision to make chic - good luck with it. Hope your headache settled for you too and you were able to get a good night's sleep.

Hayles - you didn't tell me you were sick today - did you?? It's good that eventhough you're still sick occassionally, you don't feel so wretched anymore.

As for the birthday parties girls, I had thought that we might have a BBQ lunch but after reading Cath's post, I'm thinking a 2 hour party for afternoon tea between 2.30-4.30 would be the way to go. Seth usually has a sleep around 12.30pm so a lunch BBQ would be a bit redundant wouldn't it? Might have to talk to Adam about that one.

Hmm, well today Seth managed to cut his eye, well 1cm below his eye anyway. The kids next door (GRRRRR) have put a chair on our side of the fence so that they can get back into their own yard from ours (don't ask), and Seth has gotten up on it before but not pulled himself up on the fence. Today he did, must have lost his footing and caught the fence just below the eye. Lucky for him too, it's SO close. I didn't see it, but now the chair is back in the neighbours yard with FIRM instructions that it's NOT to be put in our yard again. The middle kid (michievious canniving thing he is GRRR) said 'what if our dad puts it over there?' to which I replied, 'then you can tell your dad that I've said I don't want it in our yard, ok?' and walked off. I can't stand that kid. I know he's just a kid, but he's trouble with a capital T in BOLD type and underlined at least 5 times. The eldest one I have all the time in the world for. If the chair appears in the yard again, I'll be having words with their parents.

We had a friend drop in this afternoon with her little boy, I think he's about 15 or 16 months. Seth and he play really well together. Seth makes sure Blake has a drink regularly (by literally shoving Blake's drink bottle in his face until he has a drink), he will sit and 'read' a book to Blake, always makes sure Blake has a toy to play with, and it is SO cute. Today Seth kept giving him cuddles :p Awwww. My baby's so gorgeous.

I'm finding that I'm having alot of 'awwww' moments with Seth lately. I don't know if I'm having more since his fit or if I'm just taking more notice of them. Who knows?

I saw the date today and it suddenly hit me that in 3 days, I'll be in Tassie :eek: less than 72 hours from now, I'll be surprising my sister!!! Now I have to work it out - 59 hours from now I'll be at my sister's LOL.

K, stop rambling, go to bed. Night all :sleeping:

hayleylea
23-08-2007, 08:06
Hey Guys

Lou good to hear from you again. How cute does Maddi look in them photos!!!!!! Too cute for words!!

Ange - im having alot of AWWWW moments with Cooper latley too. I think its because he has been so loving towards me while i have been sick and he just has the most loving personality (in between tantrums ROFL!) How exciting that you will be in Tassie soon!!! Can i fit in your suitcase?? lol. Me in yours and Cooper in Seths!? Hows that sound?
I dont know if i told you i was sick yesterday. I dont think i was when i was talking to you it was after i went down the street! YUCK!

I slept good las tnight for the first time in a few nights...and i dont feel too bad just yet!! So :smiliedance: almost 13 weeks now..i have to make a docs appointment for next week so i get to hear the little heart beat!

OK i better head off...talk soon

cath
23-08-2007, 10:40
Hi again,
Lou those photos of Maddi are gorgeous (photos of Maddi are always gorgeous -she is just too cute). Did you make the Maisie top? If so I am very impressed. I can't believe you are already having to be a costume designer -I am hoping I don't need to do that until at least primary school. There are so many things that I haven't thought about that are required once you become a parent (like making costumes) -life really does change but it changes in a good way I think. Dean and I were talking about having kids the other day and how sad it would be to be 70 or something and not have a family of your own to celebrate Christmas etc. with and how much you would miss out on not having kids. Paddy cracks us up on a daily basis and is so entertaining now -it really is so much fun and so beautiful to be loved unconditionally by this little man. My brother and his girlfriend will probably never have kids which I think is so sad (my parents are sad about it too I think). They are both 32 (I think) and the years are ticking by but I know that even the thought of having kids is too much for them at this point (Rachael is always complaining about being tired and she doesn't even work full time hours -drives me nuts - don't complain to me about being tired -I have a newborn for goodness sake!!). I reckon they will get to their 40's and suddenly realise they should have had kids which will be a bit sad. My parents would love more grandkids but they are probably just going to get the 3 that we will provide I think. Anyway enough rambling about that. That's a big decision about the job Lou. Full time would be pretty full on but if it is the job you have always wanted to do it makes it appealing. Ange's suggestion is a good one -start it and then take leave and hopefully come back to it maybe?

Ange I hope Seth's eye is okay. How annoying about other kids setting up things in your yard that create trouble - not good. I bet you're hardly going to sleep until you get to Tassie -at least you were doing constructive things and not just lying there not sleeping. That's beautiful about Seth looking after Blake -love the drink enforcement.

Hayley that's good you had a decent sleep last night -that has to help. How exciting you will be hearing the heartbeat soon - I just love hearing that.

Paddy is at Mum's today and I have the 4th load of washing on. I am trying to have another rest day today and am planning on not leaving the house. I tried to go back to bed this morning after Dean and Paddy left but just as I was falling asleep of course Will wakes up wanting a feed (even though it had only been 2 hours). I fed him and then he went back to sleep and I got back into bed but I had lost my sleepiness and my brain started thinking so I got up. Naps in the day just don't seem to work out when I try. I will try again this afternoon -wouldn't mind catching up on an hour or so but I sort of feel okay. I think I am getting used to the broken sleep thing and now that Will usually makes it to at least 3.5 hours between feeds at night I am usually getting 3 hour chunks of sleep which is just so much better than 2. We still have the nightly crankiness thing going on every night but I read yesterday it peaks at 6-8 weeks and should be gone by 12 weeks -that's only 6 weeks to go (sounds like a bloody long time actually). We are eating the simplest dinners at the moment that are quick to prepare and easy to eat with one hand -one of us is usually holding Will every night now at dinner time. Oh well - like everything it won't last forever and Paddy is still being a legend with his sleep and goes to bed happily just before the chaos starts and we don't hear from him again until the morning so that's good. Hope everyone is having a good day. Chat soon.

Ange&Seth
23-08-2007, 11:20
My dog's at the vet :crying: The one that had the puppies. She's got what's called 'milk fever' which means that she's drawing calcium from her own blood to put into the milk for the puppies and literally killing herself to feed them. It can cause heart failure in a very short period of time, so I'm lucky I got her to the vet when I did. She has to be on an IV for a few hours and we now have to give the puppies formula every 6 hours for the next 3-4 weeks. I thought I'd gotten over middle-of-the-night feeds :rolleyes:

I cried after the vet took her to have the IV done. It was just all too much for me! After I called the vet and got an appt, I called Adam and while on the phone to him, my border collie growled at Seth and grabbed hold of his shoe :eek: I was so shocked. He's now tied up and am actively looking for a new home for him. I'm hoping Adam's parents will take him, if not them, then maybe his uncle will. I'm not having a dog like that around my kids.

I've just had enough today I think. It doesn't rain, it pours. Seth in hospital last week, then the nose bleeds, then the EEG, now the dog in hospital and the one snapping at Seth, having to feed puppies with a bottle every 6 hours and going to Tassie and getting a hire car and and and SOMEBODY GET ME A BOTTLE OF VALIUM!!!!! AND A BOTTLE OF WINE STAT!!!!

Whoa, ok - that's my whinge over. Sorry girls. Had to get that out.

Cath - have you tried reading yourself to sleep? At night, it's VERY rare that I can fall asleep without reading. I think it must really relax me. During the day, all I have to do is lay down and I'm asleep within minutes. Sometimes even if you don't sleep, it's good still to lie there and just rest, so if you read or even watch tv, that can be just as refreshing as an actual nap.
I hope those are small loads of washing you're doing today!!!! Don't you go lifting a huge basket of wet washing young lady :shame: Do you have one of those washing basket trolley things on wheels? We 'found' one at the first house we rented and took it with us, it's the best thing ever. No more bending to get the washing. If you don't have one, it's worth it - only about $20-$30 from Kmart or Big W I think. You don't even need to carry the basket far that way, just out the door, into the trolley, then wheel it to the line!!

Hayles - hope Trent had a giggle at your shopping list. I want to know what he brought you back as a 'new fiance' LOL!!

bingo
23-08-2007, 13:00
Oh Ange. Poor dog! What are you going to do with the dog when you go to Tassie? You poor thing you really need a break don't you.
Ok how old is your border collie, what color is it, do you have a photo? I can ask around and see if anyone wants a dog at work being a animal place and all. Only problem is going to be getting it to here. I have a friend near Wangaratta who has a farm and maybe they might be interested???
You need more than a bottle of wine! You need a week in tassie plonked in the middle of a winery with free access!

Ange&Seth
23-08-2007, 13:04
You need more than a bottle of wine! You need a week in tassie plonked in the middle of a winery with free access!

Point me in the right direction - i'll leave Seth at the complimentary creche at the gate :laughing: Actually, that'd be a good business idea wouldn't it???? LOL

Thanks so much for the offer Lou!!! He's a black and white border collie x - short hair. He's 4 yo and his name is Rex. I can load some photos onto photobucket for you - will post the link when I'm done. Wangaratta isn't an issue, we could drive him there, it's only 2 hours from here and we drive 1.5 hours to Albury all the time. Oh thankyou thankyou thankyou - even if nothing comes of it thankyou so much for the offer!!

bingo
23-08-2007, 14:24
Ange - load the photo's up or email them to me and I'll send them through to work so that Rex gets advertised. :fingerscrossed: someone will take him.
A complementary creche sitting with wine tastings sounds like a solid business plan to me :laughing:
Cath I meant to tell you that no I didn't make that top. My mum made it ages ago. I can't sew to save my life. I do have a sewing machine but have no idea how to thread it up or anything. Its like a while new world for me. Your right about the dress ups thing. They have theme weeks all the time at creche. They had to wear orange for harmony day, green for environmental day.....I can't remember what else. But geez its hard. I need to get Maddi's grandma to sew for me.
I'm not getting much done today. I just tried to set up our new printer only to get halfway through the installation and it had an error message which means it has to be returned and replaced by the supplier. Which is a pain in the rear as DH bought it in Melbourne.
Like you Cath I've done a billion loads of washing. I'm over it. We're going to wear disposable clothes from now on :D
Hope you got to have a good nap this arvo Cath.

hayleylea
23-08-2007, 14:29
Hey guys!!

Cath I hope you managed to get some sleep! I could do with one about now. Im exhausted (have no idea why after a good sleep last night).

Im at home again!! YAY! Its all a bit daunting after having so much help from my mum the last few weeks. Trents just left for work. Cooper hasnt had a day sleep today cause he was too excited in the car on the way home because mummy and daddy were going home (That and the fact Axel come for the journey so they were catching up in the back seat :rolleyes: ) He was so funny when he got home. He has pulled out just about every toy he owns pushing buttons etc making sure they still work. I swear he thinks its christmas - finding toys he forgot he had!

Ahhh Ange the shopping list! Just to fill you guys in when Trent got to my mums he was giving me the sh!ts. He wanted me to stay at mums a bit longer because he has a lot on the next few days and wont be able to help me out much! :rolleyes: PRIORITIES BOY!!!! GRRRRRR! (a whole other story) Anyway i made him do the shopping while i was at mums and I wrote out a list for him and on the very bottom i put in bold writing "A NEW FIANCE'" ROFL!!!! I thought it was very clever of me. He came back and I said so did you get everything on the list and he said with a smirk "yeah" and i said "really?" and he said yeah - so i got up all excited and opened the front door and he said where are you going? and i said out to the car to meet my new fiance! :laughing: and he said "Oh about that - i had a look around but couldnt find anyone near better then the one you have so your stuck with me" and i said..oh thats a shame maybe ill have to go have a look then! ...So it turned into a big joke and we are now happy with each other again rofl!

Ange ive talked to you about your doggy. How is she now? Feeding puppies is hard work..i had to do it when my dog had puppies cause the mum died. I had to feed them every 2 bloody hours!! it was such hard work too!
Hope you find a home for your puppies and your dog!

OK i better head off and start trying to pack some of these toys away. Dont like my chances of them staying packed away though!

Talk soon!

Wivi
23-08-2007, 15:39
Hi!

It's been a regular chat-a-thon in here the past couple of days hasn't it? I'll try to keep up - but I apologise if I forget anyone.

Hayley- you seem to be much more chipper despite the throwing up so welcome back! I bet you are so glad you are home. Actually given how cheeky you have been to Trent then I'd say you are well on the way to feeling good!

Ange - what a rough trot you have had. But how exciting about your Tassie trip! You are going to have a ball. I have to say - I didn't know you had to feed puppies in the middle of the night - for a farm chick I know bugger all about domestic animals cause we never really had any.

Cath - I am so glad your poor old tummy isn't too bad. Keep taking it easy though - and get Paddy helping you as much as you can! I'm not really sure how.... So good that Paddy is sleeping great for you, that certainly makes life easier.

Lou - that daycare of Maddi's sounds great but really full-on for you as a parent! I'd be in so much trouble if Will had to do dress-ups. I actually can sew a little bit but I wouldn't be bothered. I am so slack like that. You are getting so good at those mirror photos by the way - I think I have lost all my photography skills recently. One day I'll get back into it.

OK - Will has had his cranky pants on the past couple of days. He still doesn't seem to be 100% and I finally got a look in his mouth this afternoon and I think that final eye tooth seems to be at least part of the trouble. It is just about to pop through and boy, Will has been his crankiest ever! He still seems a little stuffy too - this bug is such a nuisance.

Oh - you guys with domestic dogs. What are people supposed to do with dog poo? Both our neighbours have dogs and Troy noticed that one of them throws th dog poo over their back fence. (We back onto a reserve so not into anyone else's yard). Somehow that doesn't seem right. The reason why I ask is because some annoying dog (and rude owner no doubt) pooed in my new rose garden in my front yard and left it there! I was so mad. Anyway I went out and collected it and put it in our Otto bin for next time the rubbish is collected. DH got annoyed with me and said I should've waited til collection night. I think he is worried about the smell. What was I supposed to do? The poo was on my plants! LOL - this is all very sad isn't it?

Oh Lou - those letter/number mats I noticed in your photos? I bought them for Will yesterday for $5 and he just loves them.

Oh yeah - one other piece of news. Hubby's best friend and his wife had a baby girl this morning after a mammoth labour. We are quietly chuckling as they don't have a name for the baby. The reason is that they were quite convinced it was a boy (they are very pigheaded) even though they chose not to find out and they are naturally very indecisive. So the poor bub is "the baby" for the moment. Hilarious.

OK - gotta go. Getting to the busy time of the day.

Seeya!

hayleylea
23-08-2007, 15:52
Hey Tan - i have been a bit cheeky to Trent havent I?!:o :laughing: Its all good.

As for Dog Poo Tan - You know what? i was coming on here to have a rant about that exact same thing!! LOL I got home and both MIL and Trent havent picked the dog poo up for i reckon the WHOLE time ive been gone. I was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cranky - because Cooper wanted to play with his toys and on his swing and stuff and there was dog poo everywhere. So i picked the whole lot up (yes sure to help with my MORNING SICKNESS HUH!!!!GRRRRR) Anyway its all clean now but geez i was p!ssed about it! Havent talked to Trent yet but Id say my cheeky side might actually turn to a grumpy side when we do have that conversation lol. Needless to say i did come inside and have a puke after that...but i feel ok now and Dinners in the oven so i think im doing pretty good for my first afternoon of flying solo! Oh yeah back to the point Tan...i pick mine up daily and put it in a scented plastic bag in a corner of my yard (away from where we go and cooper cant touch it) and then come bin night i put it in the otto. I dont agree with what your neighbours are doing! :barf:

Hope Will puts his happy pants on for you shortly!!

OK i better go get these dogs fed. Talk soon!