View Full Version : How do you......?
poshBecks
25-01-2006, 14:03
How do u get a 22mth old to stay in the "thinking corner/chair" ?
I'd love to know the tricks.... :o
Shazbutt
25-01-2006, 14:35
Yup....so would I!
Sorry i can't help you, looking forward to what others have to say as well.....
Sit with them? like sit them on the chair or mat etc and sit a little away from it? but still there and if they try to move place them back there and explain why over and over again.
I was a nanny for 2 girls and a newborn for a few years in the UK I use to take them to their room and sit them in there but no allow them to touch anything...it's hard but they grasp the idea quickly as kids are not as silly as we think! they know if I do that again I go to my room where all my toys are and I am not allowed to touch them..hmmm :D
Very hard at 22 months but older enough to get the concept and understand I think :)
poshBecks
25-01-2006, 15:06
hmmmm will try it....
kiwibird27
25-01-2006, 15:20
Move the chair or whatever to a corner or spare spot closer to where u are - so u can still pay no attention to her, but she can still see u and feel safe and know your watching - I'm a nanny and I put the 20mths old on a step in the lounge area,(named the naughty step by her older brothers) that overlooks the whole lounge and kitchen, she gets no attention from me but i can also see when she moves and put her back !!!! Be firm and consistent - even when she throws herself on the floor screaming
If u can be consistent now (it might take 45min to get her to stay the first time), then it will get easier and easier!!!!
Good luck
poshBecks
25-01-2006, 15:23
If u can be consistent now (it might take 45min to get her to stay the first time), then it will get easier and easier!!!!
Good luck
:eek: I hope it doesn't take that long!! but u r right persistance is the key....:rolleyes:
Tea Lady
25-01-2006, 18:51
You could try superglue if all else fails :)
I don't agree with time out for a 22 month old. They don't have the mental capasity to understand what they have done wrong. If you do have time out don't make it any longer than 2 minutes. I worked in child care and studied child development, at that age they really don't understand what is happening and they whole time out thing, it will just be a waste of time.... wait till the child is older to introduce a time out chair or anything of that nature.
Try talking at the child's level and expalining to them what they have done isn't nice and show them how to do it nicely. You didn't give an example why she/he will be put on the 'thinking chair' so that's the best I can suggest.
I'm with you Emysmum. The reason a 22 month old won't stay in the 'thinking corner' is because they have no idea what you are talking about! A short, firm 'no' said at eye level when they do somthing wrong is much more effective at this age then 'time out' which really doesn't work until after 3.
poshBecks
26-01-2006, 08:02
I'm with you Emysmum. The reason a 22 month old won't stay in the 'thinking corner' is because they have no idea what you are talking about! A short, firm 'no' said at eye level when they do somthing wrong is much more effective at this age then 'time out' which really doesn't work until after 3.
Well you havn't met my 22 month old then have you??!!!!
I'm sorry but if he is smart enough to deliberately do naughty things, then he is certainly smart enough to comprehend the thinking spot!!!
Gosh, no wonder there are so many brats around when ppl aren't willing to disipline!!!!
As for the short firm "no"... that absolutely NEVER works!!!!!!!
Mother Duck
26-01-2006, 08:56
Yep - mine is very spirited too - and she knows darn well what 'naughty time' - we call it time out - means
It is the most effective way I have found to teach her
I only ever use it for a few minutes though - and I will sit her down and explain exactly what she has done
She probably doesn't get all of what I am saying but certainly gets the main gist of it
With Mickayla "No" becomes a big game - she laughs and runs around saying it if I use it with her
Go the time out I say!!
Out of interest I do use a really short and very very sharp 'STOP' if she is ever in danger etc - ie walking on to road etc - it works a treat - she stops straight away and then I explain the danger - reward for good listening etc
PinkBinkie
26-01-2006, 09:31
Hi Becky
My best friends son (2) loved time out. He got out of doing what he was suppose to, like picking up his toys! So my friend soon dropped that idea. I worked in child care with 15mth-24mth old children. I used the supernanny technique of time out and saying sorry (or giving a hug to another child he/she hurt). I found it important to explain why it was wrong, like biting hurts and you made so and so sad. I think it is important to remove the child from the situation and talk to them but after a short time out forget and forgive and go back to having fun. Discipline is a real shaky area isn't it?:)
poshBecks
26-01-2006, 09:33
Gosh, no wonder there are so many brats around when ppl aren't willing to disipline!!!!
I just have to appologise for that comment...... Since thinking about it that was a bit harsh. Sorry about that ladies. :o Sometimes I speak before thinking......
I do agree that "STOP" when he does something dangerous usually gives me enough time to grab him or stop him from hurting himself.
Mother Duck
26-01-2006, 11:27
Hi there BeccaRae
You can be harsh - its Australia Day!! You can get away with anything
Besides we still love you - nevertheless young lady, I think you could be in for a time out! :p
poshBecks
26-01-2006, 13:44
LOL, I'll go sit in the corner for a while then shall I..... ;)
busylizzy
27-01-2006, 07:58
I agree, "no" doesn't work for every child. You've gotta do what you believe is right and just be consistant and stick to it. If I just kept saying "no" to my 13 month old everytime he did something wrong (& I only disipline over the really impotant things) I'd be saying "no" all day :(
I find putting him in his travel cot (where he can still see me) works for us. He screamed the first few times but now he seems to understand that he is there because he has done something wrong and accepts it. I do give him a warning first and explain what he has done wrong, but if he does it again he goes in the naughty spot.
Don't know if this will work for you because your child is a little older & may be able to climb out. But it will probably take him a little longer (than running away from the step or corner) and be a little more exhausting for him/her each time you put them back in.
Hope this helps at all.:)
Well BeccaRae, you did ask for opinions, and I have studied child development and know what children are mentally capable of understanding. Your comment was a little harsh but your apology is accepted.
I was only trying to help you like you asked.
I don't believe at that agew they have the capabilty to understand what time out is. You can however, as one suggested before, explain to him what he has done and why it is wrong. ie, biting hurts, now Sally is very sad, see. It is not nice to bit, You need to say sorry and give a hug. Then if you do introduce time out you could warn that if he does it again he will go to time out for 2 minutes.
I know you said before that if he is capable of doing naughty things on purpose the he is capable of understanding time out, I'm sorry but it doesn't work that way. He may comprehend 1 thing but not another and it may directly relate to the first. Children need to be taught but not when they can't grasp a concept.
celisesmum
31-01-2006, 09:08
I completely understand!!!! I have a fellow 22 month old who can be a challenge to say the least!! I try a combo of persisting with the 'naughty chair' and using the firm 'no' plus a short, concise explanation of what was not nice about her behaviour, but in all honesty she still doesn't stay on the naughty chair i'm just hoping she'll eventually get the idea.
We use time out for my 22 month old DS and he is starting to really understand what its all about. We use his room as my idea of time out is just to separate feuding parties (usually me and ds) so its ok if he plays with his toys its just a good way to calm him down (and me too !!) if he is REALLY naughty (ie: something dangerous to him or his baby brother) or if he has been asked to not do something on several occasions then he is actually put in his cot so he cant play and he FULLY understands why that has happened.
At first he didnt understand about time out but now he does so i think starting young is not too bad an idea...they learn why they are being disciplined.
If i say "No" to my DS he generally hits me so this just causes more problems.. "Stop" is much more effective especially in a dangerous situation.
Beck i think try the chair or whatever you use and sit near him so that when he gets off the chair you can plonk him back on it.
Also i am with others that speaking clearly and explaining is important, making them apologise is VERY important and keeping time out short but being firm about it is the key.
poshBecks
31-01-2006, 12:35
Also i am with others that speaking clearly and explaining is important, making them apologise is VERY important and keeping time out short but being firm about it is the key.
Yes I always explain clearly & he always gets a warning!! But I always ask him to say sorry, but he wont. How do I get him to? Oh & just so you know, he is a very advanced talker, so I know that he is capable!!
This morn I put him in his high chair & turned it around against the wall so he couldn't see us. He didn't like that much so I think I've found our naughty spot :rolleyes: :p ....
Tea Lady
01-02-2006, 12:09
I've pmed you Becca :)
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