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harleyq

01-07-2007, 03:52 PM

Lauren - Thanks, How is Jack doing? You finally convinced Mark to get a seat in his car :smiliedance:

Hels - I'm up for a night out without Coen (l think)!!!
Reece is loving that exersaucer!!! What a gorgeous photo!

Hannah - l don't expect your reading this, but its great news that Eloise was so well behaved on the plane... that must have been such a relief for you!!

Update on us - I went to bed without DH last night, didn't even say goodnight, l just couldn't be bothered, l could tell he was feeling bad though when he got into bed cos he was very responsive to Coen during the night, who incidentally woke up screaming at 10pm (later realised he had stabbed himself in the eye and drawn blood), 12.30 & 1..30 (just niggling) and at 3.30 for a feed... anyway as l was getting out of bed DH stopped me and said l will do this feed, unbeknownst to me he had gotten some EBM out of the fridge for this purpose, l tried to go back to sleep but couldn't, my (.)(.) were expecting to be emptied, so l had to getup and express... Coen wouldn't settle after his bottle (Cos DH only gave him 40 ml) so l ended up giving him a top up feed as well... I was touched that DH had tried to make it up to me... and we snuggled for the rest of the night (which was very nice).... l was a bit dissappointed whe l saw another 60 ml of ebm sitting on the bench when l got up in the morning though - DH thought it could just be left out... so down the sink it went :thumbsdown:
But Coen seems to have moved himself back to 1 feed during the night again... lets hope so :fingerscrossed:
We also had a sleep today that went for an hour and a half!!! We're trying that new theory l read yesterday... if it continues to work happy to share the secret!

Hope everyone has had a good weekend!

ziggy29

01-07-2007, 05:24 PM

hi all.
hope the melb girls do go out for a night without the babies. i am going out with my school friends next month and i am looking foward to being irresponsible.

the weekend has been pretty tiring. dh has been a bit sick over the weekend "cant help out as he needs to rest." this makes me so mad so i said "fine as long as when i am sick next time you take the day off so i can get better" as if!!

harleyq - i am glad dh made an effort for you. i watch my dh try to deal with lily sometimes and i am amazed at how little idea he has on knowing what she wants. it means i must be doing a good job with her. but having a hard time believing it at the moment.

the negative thoughts are really gettine me down (you know the ones - im a terrible mother, i am no good, i am worthless - the classics).:banghead:

and the fact that i feel this way at the start of the week make me worry that the rest of the week without help is going to be really hard.

as least i have you girls to support me... right?

harleyq

01-07-2007, 06:44 PM

Sharon you were doing so well - feeling so upbeat and positive - what's changed? Is it because its been an exhausting weekend?

It may be a hard week if you are already feeling exhausted - but it doesn't have to be.

You know you are a fantastic mum and that you have all the resources to be a wonderful mummy to Lily - and if you need to vent you have us here. Just take each day as it comes...

icugal

01-07-2007, 06:45 PM

I am feeling a bit queezy today as I ate some food yesterday that seemed a bit dodgy. I now have the runs, keep dry retching and getting hot and cold sweats. Hopefully it will pass within 24 hours :fingerscrossed:

Oh no... do you think it was the fish?? Hope you feel better soon :)

juzzy

01-07-2007, 07:11 PM

oh geez i have been bad today.... hmmmm been munching on chocolate for half the day and i had a pizza for dinner as DP has gone to the movies with his brothers and im too lazy to cook! Feel a bit sick now. So much for losing weight....

Other than that nothing happening over here. DP has been at his parents for most of the weekend (i was there yesterday, but didnt want to go today) working on my BMW. I am happy to say that it now has a new engine, should be getting it back in a few days. DP and his dad have worked so hard on it, what should i get his dad to say thanks?

Sharon - i agree with Sandy, you are doing a great job. We will always be here for you if u need us!

Hope everyone had a great weekend. :wave:

icugal

01-07-2007, 07:16 PM

Don't feel bad Juz... we pigged out on KFC for dinner tonight. I love the Mashies (when they seasonally come around)... so we had to get some. I feel a bit icky now actually...

Oh well.. maybe I'll have a busy night at work tonight and can burn off all the excess calories I've just ingested :D

Hels*Bels

01-07-2007, 07:38 PM

Oh no... do you think it was the fish?? Hope you feel better soon

:yes: I think the fish was under-cooked. Plus the mousse had been hanging around for a while. Also, I bought a sandwich from a servo during the day and part of it was stale. So, I guess I was asking for trouble lol. At least everything that I ate today came back out the other end pretty quick (sorry TMI) :laughing:

I picked up a dress today (bought from Oztion) to wear to the upcoming family wedding in August. It fits me, but it would look better if I lost another few kilos, so that has given me the inspiration to loose more weight. So I had a lean cuisine meal for dinner :D

DH is bathing R right now and we are all having an early night. He has been good as gold today with lots of sleeps, what a contrast to yesterday :cool: <----- this is my "rolls eyes" smiley substitute lol.

juzzy

01-07-2007, 07:48 PM

penny those mashies arent bad are they.... lol havent had any recently am trying to avoid the temptation. Im planning on doing some housework when Cassi goes to bed so maybe that will help... Walking to the supermarket tomorrow if it isnt raining to get a few things, thats a few k round trip so i guess thats a good start.

While i was preparing Cassi's bath i put her in the swing and for the first time since i bought it she didnt cry!! Shame she will be too big for it soon enough (insert rolling eye smiley here)

SuperFrog

01-07-2007, 08:01 PM

:smiliedance:

My cyst has gone! All by itself, like an ottoman, poof! I didn't even notice until last night when I pulled out the mirror to check it, and couldn't see it!

And to think... I was booked in to have surgery last Wednesday but postponed it because I had been so sick. Lucky!

Supposed to have an appointment this week for a 2nd opinion, but there's no point now. Might go and see the first gyno again though, just to make sure all is good down there.

:smiliedance:

ziggy29

01-07-2007, 09:00 PM

Hooray mon!

Forgot to say happybirthday to lily 5 months.

I think the depression comes in waves. had a heart to heart with dh tonight and i feel heaps better. i just think so much sometimes my head runs away from me. this week will be fine and if i isnt i just have to put on foot in front of the other and i will get there eventually.

through some computer clitch these photes are now part of my smiley list. are these of marissa? does everyone else see photoes or regular smileys?
:no::ecomcity:

SuperFrog

01-07-2007, 10:09 PM

Ziggy - I see the frowny shaking head smiley, and the blah blah blah one.

Roopee

01-07-2007, 10:27 PM

Ok so i have had the week from hell!!!

This is going to be a whinge...all about me....life sucks post so stop reading now if your not interested lol.

Manday morning...Cody wakes up with a pooey bed at 4am..just as Dh was walking out the door to go away for work. Diarrhea has continued ever since..at least 10 nappies a day!

Kids were great while h was away....they were very nice to me lol..but makes it hard when one is so ill.

Fast forward to Friday night and looks like Cody is slightly dehydrated so off we go to Hospy. Cody is slighlty dry but ok , diagnosed with an ear infection and gastroenteritis, sent home to "watch" her.
Today...still pooing, now spewing, lots of crying, very drowsy and we get a temp of 40.1. Straight to emergency and lo and behold...they rush us straight in. We wait and get told to do poo samples, have them tested and get back for the results tomorrow. They kept and eye on her and bought her temp down to 38.9 and sent us home. If she gets any worse or i cant bring her temp down with panadol we have to go back and she will probably be admitted for tests!

My poor baby is so sick..she isnt sleeping at all, just dozing really and wont hae her bottle either. We have been giving her...under Dr advice...some diluted gatorade and Gastrolyte, which she detests so has to be forced in by a medicine dropper!
Hopefully she will be a bit better tomorrow.
Hope everyone had a good weekend:hugs:

mumslilspunks

02-07-2007, 07:11 AM

Hello ladies :wave:
Tanya- hope cody gets better, poor bubba.

Sorry ive been MIA but i ended up with PND pretty bad..:gloomy: Im on meds now and slowly on the mend..:fingerscrossed:
I cant belive ive missed out on so much and that we are already in a new thread.
I will try and catch up and see what everyones up too but gee i missed chatting to you lovely ladies.
Ill hop back on a little later and fill you guys in on whats been happening.

my_lot

02-07-2007, 08:57 AM

hi everyone!

hi ren, glad your back posting. its no wonder about the PND...hows everything going with your boys and dp?

tan- thats no good. poor cody. did they test for rotavirus? hows her ears?

us- well ive joined the BUMBO club- i even got the play/eat tray!

my high chair is still being used (by friend) and it doesnt sit back anyway. i dont fancy face plants in food.

i think id do just about anything right now to shut this baby up- he is a grump! id love to have him happy for more than 5 minutes- and happy somehwere other than my arms!

got to go the princess cranky pants is at it again!

JoJoMart

02-07-2007, 09:44 AM

Ren - I hope you feel better soon :hugs: I'm not surprised you have PND with what you've been through lately.

Hels - I love the idea of a night out!! That would be great. Do you want to wait until Hannah gets back??

Sandy - men can be tossers sometimes. I struggle some days with my DH and things aren't as good as they used to be but we are still getting used to the parent thing. I've noticed too that before we had Liam we used to agree on most things but since having him we don't agree on some things, esp about Liam and things like baby sitting, returning to work etc etc.

Rooppee - I hope Cody will be okay?

Hannah - Fantastic news that Eloise travelled well to the UK!!!

I'm off to see a counsellor today as I have mild depression.....I'm basically going to ***** a bit about DH and also work out a way I can feel comfortable with the inlaws babysitting Liam because at the moment I don't :no:

Hels*Bels

02-07-2007, 12:04 PM

Juz - I hope your car is back on the road soon :fingerscrossed:

Sharon - I know what you mean about the PND coming in waves, I am the same. And if R has a bad couple of days it really sets me back :no: I find myself treading on eggshells alot to keep me sane lol.

Tanya - Yes that does sound like the week from hell. Not good timing with your DH away too. I hope that Cody recovers soon or that they get to the bottom of it. Please give her big :hugs:

Ren - Nice to see you back and I hope the PND is under control and that you start feeling like your old self again hun.

Jo - Yes we could do the night out the week after Hannah gets back, it will be the 21st July I think. Plus it will be 2 weeks after this coming meet. We can all chat about it on thursday.
I am not comfortable with the idea of letting my in-laws babysit either. Infact I wouldn't do it until he was at least 1 year old.

Us - I am feeling alot better today, my stomach seems to be back to normal. Reece slept from 9.30pm to 8am so that was good, DH got up to him once in the night. Tonight he is going to bed at the same time too. We are getting more strict with bedtime now, for us aswell as R lol.

Have a great day everyone :D

Roopee

02-07-2007, 03:28 PM

Havent got time for any personals but just wanted to gie you all an update on Cody....

Ok so we have been back to hospital today! Im getting sick of that place.

When we got up this morning i tried to give Cody her bottle and she spat it out then projectile vomitted everywhere. When i looked at the vomit there were blood streaks and some chunks (of blood) in it so we rushed off again...after grabbing a neighbur to look after the other three. What a nightmare...she was dehydrated so we had to try and give her oral fluid first before they were going to puta drip in. She ended up keeping all the fluid in and not spewing or pooing the entire 5 hrs we were at the hospital...isnt it always the way!
So we were sent home this afternoon...to keep watch and if she iss any worse or still the same in 24-48 hrs we have to go back.
So here's hoping thats the last of it and the dreaded virus has departed...poor little bubba is so ill. I feel so bad for her!

I'll try and do some personalls later and kay your pm will be there tonight hopefully!

ziggy29

02-07-2007, 03:31 PM

Glad your feelig better hels.

hope the councilling helps jojomart. there seems to be a lot of depression going around at the moment.

ren - big :hugs: and welcome to the PND club.
:)

roopee - i hope cody is ok. please let us know soon what is going on

my lot - love the princess cranky pants name

is it just me or have we lost the ha ha smiley now too?

i am trying to upload photoes to photobucket but it takes me ages. is it fast for you all? i dont know what i am doing wrong?

ziggy29

02-07-2007, 03:53 PM

i seem to have sorted out photobucket now. here is our montage of the past 5 months.

zero months
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/IMG_0166.jpg

one month
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/IMG_0059.jpg

two months
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/IMG_0200.jpg

three months
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/IMG_0054.jpg

four months
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/IMG_0288.jpg

five months
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/IMG_0130.jpg

Hels*Bels

02-07-2007, 04:32 PM

Lovely photos Sharon :thumbsup:

I can see the :laughing: smiley

Reece's new macdonald's farm DVD came today. He has watched the whole thing whilst sitting in his bumbo seat and then his swing. So by using the exersaucer and DVD I have had a lot of time to myself today :thumbsup:

His clothes all came too so it's been a bit like Xmas today. I have just washed them all. DH just got home so it's time for dinner.

Where is everyone today? it seems quiet in here.

icugal

02-07-2007, 04:44 PM

I don't know how to say without fear of offending everybody... but this thread seems to be a bit dark and depressing lately (and seriously guys, feel free to share, vent, cry etc .. because it really IS good to get your feelings and thoughts out of your system... and we are here to support each other)..but I also want to put it out there that there are some of us here who don't have PND and who are really enjoying every minute of being a mum.

So I guess I just wanted to take five minutes to celebrate that too !!! I can honestly say that I have never been as happy or as fulfilled as I have been in the last five months.

Please don't be upset with me.. and please don't feel like you have to stop posting... but I just had to get that out of my system !!

~Penny (spreading the love :) )

LMenz

02-07-2007, 06:37 PM

My cyst has gone! All by itself, like an ottoman, poof!

WOO HOO!!!! Great news Mon!

My poor baby is so sick..she isnt sleeping at all, just dozing really and wont have her bottle either.

:hugs: Tanya...poor Cody. How is she now? I know exactly how you feel...it's heartbreaking seeing them sick isn't it? I hope she makes a very speedy recovery

Sorry ive been MIA but i ended up with PND pretty bad

:hugs: Ren....Your doing so well considering everything your dealing with

I'm off to see a counsellor today as I have mild depression..

Jo, How did it go? I'm sure it will help heaps to have a good talk about everything

i think id do just about anything right now to shut this baby up- he is a grump! id love to have him happy for more than 5 minutes- and happy somehwere other than my arms!

Oh dear Kay...Is he cutting more teeth?
BTW I sent your little package off today. Sorry for how long it's taken. You should recieve it by the end of the week :)

i am trying to upload photos to photobucket but it takes me ages. is it fast for you all? i dont know what i am doing wrong?

Nope Sharon, it takes me ages too. How are you feeling today? I LOVE the photo's of Lily...She's sitting up all on her own...WOW! Clever girl!

US - We went back to the doc's today....Jack's ears are almost clear so thankfully no antibiotics. Still waiting to get his stool sample back. He's still a bit grizzly though and has been crying out in his sleep tonight..Doc said his cough could last for up to 2 weeks.

I ended up going to Mother Group for just an hour as it was our last session. It was all about return to work stuff which I won't be doing, so not that relevant to me but I learned a bit about occasional care. I think at some point he will go maybe once a forghtnight so I can have a day to myself or to catch up on my jewellery. I think it will be good for him to to socialise with other kids.

RE: Biting - I asked the MCHN about it and she thinks it could be his teeth. I yelled at Jack quite harshly this morning when he bit me and made him cry :o He hasn't done it since so I think he got the message.

mumslilspunks

02-07-2007, 06:41 PM

EskimoMumma

02-07-2007, 06:46 PM

Penny-I hope I dont come across as offensive when I say this either but you dont know what it is until you have experienced it. I can't believe you have formed a judgement of what exactly it must be without having gone through it yourself.Its not as dark and gloomy as you make it out to be. Its a real pity you can't be that supportive of it and lend an ear for mothers who suffer through it(I have with DD1). Of course mothers who have PND love their children and lovebeing a mother. Enjoying every minute.

juzzy

02-07-2007, 06:52 PM

ok guys i dont think Penny was out to offend. Please dont turn the thread into a sh@t fight because she has an opinion. This is a place where we all go to have support and what not, PND or otherwise.

Penny im with you and i have PND, I love being a mum and wouldnt trade it in for anything.

Just to keep the thread light for a bit.... going on a theme started by penny.... What does everyone love about being a mum?

icugal

02-07-2007, 06:55 PM

So are you saying us who have PND should save it and post it in another thread?

Ren... of course not !!!

As I said in my post...

and seriously guys, feel free to share, vent, cry etc .. because it really IS good to get your feelings and thoughts out of your system... and we are here to support each other

and please don't feel like you have to stop posting...

LMenz

02-07-2007, 07:14 PM

I just found this link in another thread......It's the GIANT KMART TOY SALE!!!!!

Check it out! :)

http://www.kmart.com.au/catalogue/20070705/default.asp

mumslilspunks

02-07-2007, 07:28 PM

I have no harsh feelings towards anyone if Penny thinks that this thread is turning :gloomy: its is her place to say so just as much as it is for me or who ever elese who is having a rough time!!
Penny i wasnt having a go at you :hugs:
We are all here for each other but for those of us who have PND its easier for us to relate to each other coz we know what we are or have gone through, and for those who havent its just so hard to explain.

juzzy

02-07-2007, 07:42 PM

heres the link for targets toy sale

http://target.com.au/abouttarget/toy_sale/nav/home.htm

icugal

02-07-2007, 07:44 PM

Ren - I'll always love ya mate !!! :hugs: And I will most certainly support you through the ups and downs...

That goes for all of you gorgeous girls...

I guess what I was trying to convey is that I want to be able to celebrate the fact that I feel so happy all the time... but I honestly don't know how to convey that in a genuine way without unintentionally offending people.

As for the Kmart toy sale... I'm rearing to go !!

harleyq

02-07-2007, 08:53 PM

Mon - Congratulations Mon - that is fantastic news!!!

Mon & Juzzy - love your avatars - your kiddies look so cute!

Tanya - :hugs: poor Cody, how is she now?

Jo - why don't you feel comfortable with the inlaws babysitting Liam? (l don't either by the way - l don't know that l have a legitimate reason - other than l think they will ignore everything l say and do what they want)!!!

:hugs: to everyone who needs it.

Lauren - glad to hear Jack is doing better now :yelclap:

What l love about being a mum -- one of my best moments right now is when l open my eyes and l know my little boy is up - but he is just quietly sucking on his fists (its like he wants to let mummy sleep that little bit longer), so l drag my tired body out of bed, and waddle over to his cot and as soon as he sees me l get the biggest smile and he does this :smiliedance:he is soooooooo excited to see me - it just melts my heart!!!

Hels*Bels

02-07-2007, 09:06 PM

I have PND too and sometimes I love being a mum and sometimes I don't.

I hate it when R screams for no apparent reason and I can't settle him. It ends up driving me nuts and I become very impatient. I wish he wouldn't do it, but it's a "Reece thing".

I love being able to play with him now. I get down on the floor and we do lots of games with his toys and he laughs out loud. I love it when he lays on the floor kicking his legs about and screaming with delight.

It's all about ups and downs, but that's just motherhood I guess :cool:

I know that Penny wasn't out to offend anyone. I think what she was trying to say is that the thread seems to be a bit gloomy at the moment. Maybe if there was a better balance of happy posts too it would make for more enjoyable reading :)

BTW, there are specific threads in this forum for PND sufferers that offer excellent help and support for those who want/need it :D

juzzy

02-07-2007, 09:54 PM

what i love about being a mum - mine is similar to Sandy's. When i go to her in the mornings or when i walk into the lounge and shes on her play mat, when she sees me she gets the biggest smile, giggles and kicks her legs with delight. Doesnt matter how tired i am, knowing that she is happy to see me makes it all worth while

Ok i have been meaning to ask, Cassidy seems to have a rash (could be just dry skin i guess...) on both legs as well as her arms.

Anyway, what i wanted to know.... is it just dry skin or is it something else (it may be just paranoia but it seems to be spreading). click here (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/?action=view&current=P1000677.jpg) Thats a photo of her right leg, not very clear but the best i could do as she was wriggling.

I have spoken to a doctor about it and she thinks it is dry skin and to put moisturiser on it daily and it should get better within a week or so. Well that was now a month ago and its not getting better. If it is dry skin how can i treat it?

my_lot

02-07-2007, 10:21 PM

hels i have one of those too. only an "eli thing" :laughing:

penny- i think you are living in la la land...good on you for having a fantastic time at motherhood. you are really lucky to have such a great baby and a smooth ride into first time parenting....

ive had two easy and two hard. same parents, same parenting so i guess its the luck of the draw.

i had a hard one with the first and two easy after that. Eli is not a easy, happy go lucky type of baby. he cries and he cries a lot.

PND is not all doom and gloom. it comes in many shapes and sizes.

i feel like i just cant please my baby -i have a hell of a lot of demands on me in a day and i can run a family, house and business but i cant have a happy baby...and that bugs the **** out of me but it doesnt stop me from enjoying being a mother.

if Elis in a crying fit and no matter what i do i cant stop him or make him happy then it gets to me. i wonder why he is so upset and i feel for him that he cries so much.

this is not just a cry when hes hungry or wet ect its non stop crying for days and days on end for a few hours each day or on and off each day. i then have to get up to him 2-3 times a night.

i start to hate the sound of his crying. i get sick of being around him and hang out for the minute dp will come home and give me a break (hang onto the crying baby)

i start to think "oh f*@K ..AG AIN" when i hear a little peep out of him. i am not relaxed about it and have to force myself to be chirpy and put on a happy face when he wakes up from everysleep in a screaming fit.

ive had this baby wake me every night bar 4 times in 5 months. i have very little time to myself. i rely on dp to give me a break. i have no family by me.

still im happy with my little family. i know this hard time im having will pass. i enjoy the good times very much. so just because i talk about the hard times doesnt mean im not enjoying being a mother..maybe its just been a hard day. maybe im sitting at my comp with a screaming baby on my lap. maybe im hoping im not the only one with a grumpy baby. maybe your next baby will give you a run for your money.

bAaM

02-07-2007, 10:36 PM

Hi girls have been MIA for a while just cause i'm to lazy these days buy the time i finish work and my little :devil6: showered feed and bed i'm ready for bed.
Juzzy it looks a little like ecsma(sp) maybe try putting babyoil in her bath as well or paw paw cream is good as well.

I'm sorry to hear that some of your bubs arn't well and Tan my heart goes out to you cause i no how hard it is when you have other kids and need to be at the hospital with one. :fingerscrossed: Bub stays ok.
Well i went to the docs and the test is :bfn: but still no AF so i have to go back in 2 weeks if it still hasn't arrived for a blood test. (thanks for jinxing me Sharon):p

Well i went to Draculas(the themed restrant) on the gold coast on saturday night and it was amazing i strongly recommened it if you are ever in the area you do need to book 2 week ahead but it is well worth it.

Bub has the runs ATM cause i havent been able to get the karicare de-lac formula and she hates the de-lac in s26 so she is on the normal karicare so i rang the karicare hotline today to find out where i could by it and they told me the chemist near me would have it next week and they have sent me a free tin that they i will get tomorrow.

Brissy girls whats the plan for the baby expo?
I'm sorry there arn't many personals i am to sleepy to sit at the computer.
So a big HI to you all and i hope your all well.
I will try and get to chat tomorrow night.

Take care
Alicia
xxxxx

Roopee

03-07-2007, 06:56 AM

Cody is alot better today thank god. She slept all night and only woke once, her fever has broken and she seems a litle happier in herself. :fingerscrossed: its the last of it. Its really nice to have my happy baby back. Its so heartbreaking to so them so ill. Thank you to everyone who sent their well wishes!! I appreciate the support.....which brings me to this.....
PND i dont have it and i count myself extremely lucky not to have it and to never have experienced it.
I have no idea what its like, how it feels or how it affects your life.
What i do know though...is this. That when your feeling a little down, sad, mad, furious, frustrated etc etc that its fantastic relief to be able to come somewhere for support and get some words of encouragement.

I dont think any one of us has said that they are not happy being a mum...its the day to day that some are struggling with and thats ok...coz they can come in here and scream and then go away, knowing they wont be judged and that they will be supported.

I think its incredibly sad that some of them now will feel like they cant do this.
Life with a baby is hard, its hard going from your own life to having to be responsible for someone else....its a major adjustment and it takes a long time to come to terms with that.
Some are lucky that they have "good babies" and its not a reflection of your parenting on whether you get a "good "one or a "hard" one. Its luck! I have been extremely lucky that 3 out of my 4 have been very easy babies.
I think its imperative that this thread allows everyone to be able to express their opinions and to be able to come in for some support, regardless of their situation. I would hate to think that i couldn't come in here when i had something on my mind and express it, whether that be struggling to cope with sick baby, dh away, school holidays or whatever!

We all have feb babies, we are all a part of this group and we are all having different experiences, this thread is a place to share those experiences, whether they are good, bad or indifferent.

LMenz

03-07-2007, 08:25 AM

Here's my two cents for what it's worth.....

Penny, no one would ever begrudge you for feeling so wonderful about motherhood :) I think it's great your having such an easy time. You should feel free to talk about whatever you like just as everyone else on here should too. I think it's inevitable that "doom and gloom" will be around from time to time....for most of us it's just a normal part of raising children

For me personally I find this such a wonderful resource for a first time mum as 9 times out of 10 I can come on here and someone else is going through the same thing with their bub. It just gives me a bit of reassurance that all is normal and I'm not alone.

SO....my favorite part of motherhood atm is when I whisper in Jack's ear he will grin and giggle. It's very cute and I find it really special :D

Tanya - I'm so glad Cody is feeling a bit better.

Juz - Love your new avatar! I think the rash could be ezema too. I'd go to another doc for a second opinion....Does Cassi scratch it?

US - This morning I noticed Jack has a white spot on his lower gum :eek: I wonder if it's a toothy peg? We had a good night I managed to get 5.5 hours sleep in a row. He woke at 4.30 and just needed a quick re-settle. My head feels a bit clearer too.....Can't wait for DH to start holidays. I'm so looking forward to seeing all the Melbourne Girls on Thursday too

Have a great day lovely ladies :yes:

JoJoMart

03-07-2007, 08:56 AM

Penny - I tend to agree with you....this thread can be a bit gloomy at times but it's there for a reason and that's to share the good and the bad times of motherhood........I'm envious and think it's fantastic that you are really happy and enjoying motherhood (I'm sure this benefits Kaelan too)....but unfortunately not all of us feel like that. Saying that, I by no means feel sad and gloomy all the time I'm just going through a rough patch and I think it's partly because I'm not getting along well with DH at the moment.

Sandy - I'm not comfortable with the inlaws babysitting Liam at the moment because they are more opinionated than my Mum is and I'm a bit worried they won't do what I say and do things their way.....but I will give it a go before judging too harshly

Leashie - I've been to Dracaluas Theatre Restaurant both in Melbourne and on the Gold Coast and I agree it's really good!

My_lot - it is hard when you feel you can't please your baby and sometimes I feel like this too. I try different things and with Liam he needs changes all the time otherwise he gets bored. He does love going out in the pram though so when he really cracks it I take him out and he shuts up!

What I love about being a mum - when Liam smiles at me and watches me as I walk around the room........he also gets excited when I come in his room and waves his arms and kicks his legs as if he's excited to see me....it's really georgeous and I give him a big kiss :kiss:

Well, I'm hoping to head to the shops today myself to buy some stuff at the sales.....better get my butt into gear then. Have a great day ladies :wave:

LMenz

03-07-2007, 09:07 AM

We finally put Jack in the jolly jumper on the weekend..I think he likes it :D

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1956.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1959.jpg

my_lot

03-07-2007, 10:59 AM

lauren - the second pic is funny!

jojo- eli is not happy in the pram. i use the ergo most of the time now or i end up walking with him in one arm and pushing the pram in the other! people seem to stare a lot when im at the shops with a baby screaming like hes sitting on pins in his pram.

on us- we have been taken over by lego! every school hols we get it out 40lt tubs of it and ive got jack of looking at all those bits that make nothing so i got out the folder with all the instructions and now we are all building...

dsd has sent us a postcard from greece. she should be back soon. ive missed her a lot and it will be great for her to see eli- she will notice the changes in him.

my fav thing to do with my grumpy bum is when i play peek-a-boo and he cracks up.

icugal

03-07-2007, 11:30 AM

penny- i think you are living in la la land...good on you for having a fantastic time at motherhood. you are really lucky to have such a great baby and a smooth ride into first time parenting....

... maybe your next baby will give you a run for your money.

La la land?? Ok.. whatever.

I'll admit that I probably do have a fairly relaxed baby compared to some... and for that I am truly grateful, but please don't think that we don't have bad days.. because we do.

I can certainly understand why mums could go on to develop PND... I'm just VERY lucky that I didn't.

DF and I have discussed about whether we should have another baby... purely from the perspective that if K *is* a good baby, does that mean the next one will be not so good....

I think its incredibly sad that some of them now will feel like they cant do this.

Why is that??

Are you implying that I said that people can't come here and express their feelings... when my post specifically said... "Feel free to share, vent, cry etc" and "and please don't feel like you have to stop posting"

Did anyone actually READ what I said????

We all have feb babies, we are all a part of this group and we are all having different experiences, this thread is a place to share those experiences, whether they are good, bad or indifferent.

Agreed 100%.

And I tried to put in a post that celebrates the fact that I don't have PND... and yet now I'm being somewhat chastised over the fact.

Is that fair??

Penny, no one would ever begrudge you for feeling so wonderful about motherhood I think it's great your having such an easy time. You should feel free to talk about whatever you like just as everyone else on here should too. I think it's inevitable that "doom and gloom" will be around from time to time....for most of us it's just a normal part of raising children

Again I agree.

I just want to point out that I never said I've had an easy time. I know that's probably being a bit pedantic... but there is a big difference between having an easy time... and being happy and fulfilled.

I just encourage you all to re-read my post and try to understand what I was saying (and what I wasn't saying)... because some of you have jumped to some pretty far-fetched conclusions about my intentions and that doesn't sit well with me at all.

SuperFrog

03-07-2007, 11:49 AM

juzzy

03-07-2007, 11:55 AM

penny - i read your post and understand what you said.

everyone else - please dont turn this into a sh*t fight over PND. Penny has a right to express herself as much as anyone else on here and i dont think we have a right to make Penny feel bad over not having PND and having a great time as a first time mum.

As for me. Had a shocking night sleep last night. DPs 3yr old nephew stayed over last night and the only place we had for him to sleep was in the cot so cassidy slept with us. I couldnt sleep as all i could hear was her breathing!! I have no idea how people who co sleep manage to get any sleep!!!! She then woke up at 6am for a feed and then i managed to sleep from 7am til 9am... Early night for me tonight me thinks!!

About the rash on cassidys leg... it doesnt seem to bother her at all. She doesnt scratch or pick at it or anything like that. But when i go back to the doctor i will be asking him about it, especially if it doesnt clear up or it gets worse.

icugal

03-07-2007, 11:56 AM

Completely off topic...

I want to try to make a beanie for a newborn, but i'm not sure what size to make it. I want something that will last for a few months through the cold weather. Liam has a ginormous boofer for his age apparently, so he won't make the best model for this one.

So, does anyone remember what head circumference your baby had when it was born, and what it is now?

Ta.

Mon... wouldn't Liam's measurements be in your blue book??

I think K was 32.5cm at birth... can't remember how big now (and don't have time to look sorry).. running late for mothers group.

icugal

03-07-2007, 11:57 AM

BTW, God love ya Juz !!!

:hugs:

Roopee

03-07-2007, 12:22 PM

Penny- i wasn't implying that...no. However..from your "dont know how to say this without offending...dark and gloomy" comments im pretty sure that some of the mums here who do suffer PND will be hurt at what has been written. Like they have "added" to the doom and gloom or whatever.

When i first read your post...my initial reaction was WTF? So have i added to it by teling people about my sick baby and how ill she is? Or have i put a dampener on things by talking about it. That's what i first thought.

No one is chastising you for celebrating that you dont have PND. What i think has some of us a little tetchy is the fact that the words you used seemed to belittle (for want of a better word here) however unintentionally or indirectly those that do.
I also think that those that do have PND or thoe that have PND and took offense to your OP will stop posting as much or will play down their experiences. Thats just what i think.
That is just the way the post came across to me and yes i did readit. I read it over and over. I still got that impression and im sorry, i know how difficult it is to convey your thoughts and feelings online, there is no body language or expression to go with the words so conveying and interpreting is hard.

Look....im probably a little sensitive atm, spending three days in andout of hospital with and incredibly ill baby, while trying to juggle three others and keep the house running and all the kids happy, all while you have been up all night will do that to you.

my_lot

03-07-2007, 12:51 PM

yes i too traced back to see if ive added to the doom and gloom.

there has been a few babies and mummas sick but thats all everyday life. i really didnt think our thread was all doom and gloom.

penny i have re-read and would like to say what i think of what you posted.

[QUOTE=icugal;1655360]... but this thread seems to be a bit dark and depressing lately (and seriously guys, feel free to share, vent, cry etc .. because it really IS good to get your feelings and thoughts out of your system... and we are here to support each other).. [QUOTE]

you say "its dark and depressing but hey go ahead and keep sharing" ??

you start off by saying it like you have a problem with the way the thread is going... if thats the case you could add some of your "every minute of the day happy moments" and liven it up or back out for a few days til it takes a turn you like, if you cant be supportive or say nothing.

id say we have all shared the good and the bad in here and live chat. i think we tell people the good because we are pleased. we tell people the bad because we need support, a sounding board or someone to come along with an idea maybe...some need support more than people being please along with them. or maybe a mix of both but are just having a hard few days.

[QUOTE=icugal;1655360]... some of us here who don't have PND and who are really enjoying every minute of being a mum.

[QUOTE]

id say this was the line that offened.

its like your saying you DONT have PND so you are enjoying being a parent and those who do have it or are having a hard time dont enjoy being a mother..

i guess i find it really rude that you put the two together when thats not the case for a lot of mothers. ...and yes its only natural to then think that you are gloating about it like you have the perfect baby and have never had a hard day.

this is the way it came across to me...anyway said and done now. lets move on.

im looking forward to the baby show. did any melb or syd mummas go?

catch up with everyone in live chat tonight.

mumslilspunks

03-07-2007, 01:04 PM

Off the topic, look what i went and done.....:shame:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Newtatt048.jpg

my_lot

03-07-2007, 01:29 PM

:eek!: ooooch!

ziggy29

03-07-2007, 01:32 PM

wow! no need for me any comment as it has already been said in the last few posts.

if i am having a bad or a lonely day i always post as i need to "feel the love". when i am having a good day i dont always post but i always read and love reading what everyone is up too.

thankyou penny for sharing your happiness - being a mum can be just so wonderful.

by the very fact that we are caring people we naturally support those who are having immediate difficulties and dont necessarily comment on those having a fantastic day.

i love being a mum. i lucked out with one of the good babies. i want to be with her and spend every minute together. we dance, we sing, we laugh.

but inside it hurts. i feel silly - like i dont know what i am doing. that i am letting everyone down. that i am worthless. these are cognitive distortions. the main things i think i do is mind read and overreact (catrophise) to little things.

last time the list when heavy i cried for days and then i went to the GP for some help. then i didnt post for 5 weeks. i felt that everything that happened was my fault. that if i left the list then everyone else could get on with their happy lives. i know now that i was mindreading and catrophising.

i know that i am going to beat this. i know that i am going to feel better week by week and be able to focus on the postives and not the negatives in life. it is hard work to get better - i have to work on it daily.

a want to give you all a big thank you for being a wonderful support network. you are all helping me get better. you are helping lily's mum realise that she is doing a good job.

please everyone keep visiting. i want to show you all some of the support you have given me.

Roopee

03-07-2007, 02:11 PM

Off the topic, look what i went and done.....:shame:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Newtatt048.jpg

OOOOOHHHHH! that looks great Ren!!!:thumbsup:

mumslilspunks

03-07-2007, 02:21 PM

OOOOOHHHHH! that looks great Ren!!!:thumbsup:

Thanks. Needed to take my mind off things and that sure did it. LOL

LMenz

03-07-2007, 02:36 PM

So, does anyone remember what head circumference your baby had when it was born, and what it is now?
Ta.

Jack's head when born was 36.5 cm - at his last check up (4 months) I think it was 42cm.

His head was above average though for a newborn....

harleyq

03-07-2007, 04:21 PM

Juzzy - l can't remember are you still breastfeeding at all??? Cassidy could be having a reaction to something your eating if that is the case (or something in the formula - l am not sure if that is likely - Kay might no more), a friend of a friends baby had a similar thing and it turns out her baby is allergic to eggs, so she (as a breastfeeding mama) can't eat anything with eggs in it (and l am talking cakes too :crying:). It doesn't look like dry skin to me - but then again l am no dr.

This might sound funny, but l enjoy hearing the good and the bad - when l hear the good stuff it gives me warm and fuzzies for all of my internet buddies, and reminds me of our good times (COen and l) and when l hear the bad it helps me to remember that l am not alone with watching the minutes pass by until DH gets home some days - we all have our days, minutes, hours when our babies are being ... difficult... but l think l can safely say we all love being mums and wouldn't trade it in for the world - its just some days we love it more than others!

:yelclap: for Cody!!! Tanya so happy to hear that she is doing better!

Go Jack!!!:smiliedance:

Kay - people must think l am loony pushing an empty pram too - quite often (but l think getting a bit less now) Coen will crack it half way through our walk, so in the Ergo he goes -- its a godsend!!! Its my security blanket - l won't go anywhere w/o it!

Mon - head circumference at birth - 35 cm h/c today 42.5 (we went to mchn today) he is in the 50% for h/c hope that helps

Ren - nice art -- owwww though!!!

On us - Coen is officially a little boofer, but thankfully his weight gain has slowed down a bit. He now weight 7.44kg and is 65.5 cm tall, both of which have him in the 75th percentile... can we do a quick pole and get everyones 4 month(ish) stats???

Went to Pilates and Physio today - both really good, l think my pelvic floor is getting a bit better, but l still have a ways to go --- don't forget to suck it up everyone!!!

icugal

03-07-2007, 04:35 PM

Roopee and my_lot - Thanks both of you for clarifying your point of views... it's made it easier for me to see where you come from and how my original post may have been (unintentionally) taken the wrong way.

I don't want anyone to feel as though they can't post here - good and bad.... but I am going to be 100% honest with you here... I sometimes feel as though I can't be honest in MY feelings about being happy with my life for fear of (again unintentionally) upsetting the mums who might be having a harder time than me... does that make any sense? That's probably the crux of it I suppose.

Bottom line is... If I did offend anyone, then I apologise as it was NEVER my intention to upset people.

Anyways, let's move on (if you wish to continue the debate, then lets do it over PM)

Hels*Bels

03-07-2007, 04:56 PM

Share the love :hugs:
(I've always wanted to post that!) :laughing:

Ren - Love it, love it, love it! Something I wanted to do when I was younger but never got around to it, along with the belly button ring.

Juz - I forgot to say to you today, I get rashes like Cassi has got and I always use Dermaid cream, it is 1% hydrocortisone. Not sure if it's ok for babies but I would probably use it on Reece if the same thing happened. But it looks like a trip to the doctor could be in order.

Us - I spent most of the arvo driving around dropping off sales for my business and picking up an eBay purchase. That's the last of the shopping for a while, I have a nasty feeling we might have a large tax bill again this year :( .
I won't be in chat later as we are going to pick-up the photos at 8pm tonight, finally!

SuperFrog

03-07-2007, 04:56 PM

Ooh, I love stats! *we need a nerd smiley to insert here*

Liam at birth
Weight: 3.25 kg
Length: 51 cm
Head circ: 35 cm

Liam at 4 months
Weight: 6.02 kg
Length: 61 cm
Head circ: 43 cm

He is now about 5 months and 1 week old.
Summary... light, short, big head!

I'm thinking of making the hat a 40 cm circumference. Would be loose on a newborn and tight on a 4 month old.

And I just noticed that you can change fonts, colours, etc. How have I not noticed this before????

SuperFrog

03-07-2007, 05:04 PM

Juz - Similar to what Sandy said, I'm breastfeeding and Liam gets a rash on his forehead if I drink full-cream milk. I can't remember if you are bf of ff, but it could be a food allergy. I'd also check the laundry detergent you are using, bath products, etc.

Big cyber hugs for all the sick babies. :hugs:

icugal

03-07-2007, 05:05 PM

We do have a nerd smiley... :geek: but it's a sucky one.

Birth
Length: Approx 50cms (they completely stuffed up his measurement)
Weight: 2986grams
Head circumference: 32.5cm

4 Months
Length: 61cms
Weight: 6400grams
Head circumference: 41cm (he's got a bit of a boof head now)

Ironically enough, one of the girls at my mothers group brought in a baby weight scale today... and Kaelan weighed a massive 7.6kilos (now at 5 months). This means he has put on over a kilo in a month :eek:

my_lot

03-07-2007, 05:06 PM

yes penny i getcha. oh the times ive sat here and read about whos baby has slept through the night and thought why the f*&K cant MY baby do it just ONCE :laughing:

guess thats the thing about being a part of a parenting forum birth group it kinda rubs it in when the pack are going somewhere your not.

i always thought it was normal to have your baby wake you every night til they are 18 months or so..

:laughing: blo0dy bubhub.

LMenz

03-07-2007, 05:45 PM

Birth
Weight - 3.68kg
Length - 50.5
Head - 36.5

4 Months
Weight - 7.3kgs
Length - 61.5
Head - 43.5

Jack was weighed while we were at the hospital last week - clothed he was 7.9kgs. I have enough milk to feed 3 babies I think :laughing:

LMenz

03-07-2007, 05:48 PM

WOO HOO!!!!
:smiliedance:
1000 POSTS!!!!
:yelclap: :smiliedance: :yelclap:

ziggy29

03-07-2007, 07:14 PM

Lily:

Birth
Weight - 2.749kg
Length - 48
Head - 35

4 Months
Weight - 6.5kgs
Length - 62.5
Head - 42

Here is a comparison photo from birth to 4 months. beer bottle is only for scale and was the closest thing to hand at the time (am i a bogan?)

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/LILYSIZE4MONTHS.jpg

Roopee

03-07-2007, 07:27 PM

ziggy- oh you so ARE a bogan!!!:laughing: Im kidding..thats a great pic..love the comparison lol.

penny-i think we all feel like that at time..i know that while Cody has been so sick..i thought twice about posting it..was worried that it might bring the thread down..but thought nope..thats whats going on so im posting it. Then there have been other times when Cody has been so good, sleeping 13 hrs a night and i feel bad about that too coz some are only getting 3 hrs out of their bubs.
It natural to be cautious but i think that your right...we do need to be able to post whatever, whenever.

ren- i love your tat- did it hurt? I know when i got mine years ago, on a drunken night out, it didnt hurt (alcohol, and lots of it, i guess being the anesthetic) it didnt hurt at all. I hate mine now though...should have been sober i guess:laughing:

weights- wow..Cody only weight 5.9 kilos lol. Shes a tiny little one compared to some of the bubbas here lol. She only weight 1.5 kilos heavier than my DS1 did at birth:eek:

harleyq

03-07-2007, 07:30 PM

Congrats Lauren...

bAaM

03-07-2007, 07:44 PM

Hi girls wow i've been in here 2 nights in a row. (it's been awhile)

I would just like to add that PND is an illness that will not go away till treated the write way i have had it for 5 yrs and i let it get to me that bad that i now had Bypola Disorder and will be on pills for the rest of my life. I agree with Kay and Tan that u dont no what its like till you experiance it just like childbirth ;)

I had a Hard baby with DS but my bubba girl is perfect and i do feel is is easier this time but i have my days where i just want to crawl under a rock alone.
Being a mum is a wonderful exerience that alot of people will never get.
we all have our bad days and our good days (some more then others) but thats what this forum is all about sharing is caring.

PND and Is a VERY touchy subject when it is brought up by some one that has never had it because it feels as though its a direct stab at you, even if its not.
Penny i do understand where you are coming from and you are always free to your own opinions and that includes how happy you are with your life cause one day when bub no2 comes he/she may be hard and you could be the one that needs to let it all out. And we will all be here for you to help you through it.

Us fab feb mummies have been through our ups and downs together some while preg and then for the last 5 months all our bubs have been through alot of different things but i find you girls as a comfort for when i need to no if i'm doing it all ok cause i no you are all going through the same or similer things. I tell you girls things i haven't told any one and i love the fact that when good things happen you congratulate me or us and then when im down and out and need a friend to talk to you are all there to support me. eg... my gran passing away.

So to rap my little i love you all speal up i will now tell you all what i love about being a mum; I love just being a mum and knowing that i will always be loved and will always love my beautiful kids, it is the best gift in the world oh yea and the look on bubs face in the morning when i wake up to her beautiful smile. And i also love the fact that when they are sick its only me they want (hehehe) thats bad i no but its the only time my lil' Andrew will stay still long enough for a big mumma snuggle.

Anyway blah blah blah

Alicia
xxxxx

juzzy

03-07-2007, 08:53 PM

yay finally got my bmw back. Has a nice new (well second hand but pretty much new) engine in it and goes really well, just needs to be tuned a little to be running perfectly. I am now a bogan however who has one of those cars with the loud exhausts as DP decided it would be a good idea (insert rolling eye smiley here). Not happy about that bit.

Thanks for the advice about Cassidys rash thingy everyone. I had a feeling it was something like eczma (sp?) but once again ill have a word to the doctor about it and see what he says. Wouldnt surprise me however as my sister had it bad when she was a baby.

Ummm i wont be able to make the meet this week, got a few too many things going on at the moment! Sandy i will PM you.

As for stats, the only one i know off the top of my head is weight. Cassidy was 3.5 kilos at birth. At four months she was 6.9 kilos. Now being 4 and a half months old id guess that she would now be over 7 kilos.

harleyq

04-07-2007, 09:32 AM

Thanks for the chat last night gals, sorry l left so abruptly - l got booted...
Hope everyone had a good night sleep - Coen unfortunatley woke twice during the night again and wouldn't settle again but DH helped out so that was great!

I have a very light week on this week, other than the Melbourne meet tomorrow l have nothing really planned for today or Friday - that worries me a bit cos l am not very good if l spend the whole day at home.... will walk down to the shops when my little man wakes up l think...

We practiced rolling over this morning - he can do it with my help, but still nothing by himself...

Can't wait till tomorrow... how are the sick bubs going, Jack, Cody??? (sorry if l have missed any others)

Roopee

04-07-2007, 10:51 AM

Oh you dont want to know what its like at my place today!:no:

Let me paint a picture for you!

In chat last night having a great time, log off...go to bed to just put my head on the pillow and have to get up...cody crying.

Settle her and back to bed...just get my head on the pillow nd off she goes again! Wouldn't settle so at 1am i decide to feed her...she drinks it...projectile vomits IN MY FACE.....falls asleep and i go to the shower. Turn off shower to hear her screaming her head off and has woken the other three too but DH still snoring peacefully:mad:.

anyway..get the others to bed and the only way she would settle was in my arms so i do the bed switch..put one in my bed with DH and get into the spare bed with her..thinkig that ok...now i can sleep. Its 2.30am.

She dozes on and off but is waking all the time....figure, spose she coould be hungry...she vomitted her bottle so try to feed her again...not interested...syringe some water into her nd some panadol...smugly thinnking..."yeah, that'll fix ya"

WRONG...anyway by 4 am im nearly in tears and woke DH said to him...YOUR TURN! He got up i went to bed..he fed her and she went straigh to sleep * insert roll eyes here*

6am i wake to the older kids up! OH GREAT! so i stumble out...do the b/fast thing, have coffee and who should wake screaming again....cody.

Get her up and see that she is covered in a pink rsh all over her head and torso. Oh yep, a nice little viral rash that is driving her nuts with the itch!

Take older kids to IL's-stop at chemist, get some Dermaveen and Pinetarsol, come home and try to put her to bed so i can have some sleep. Last night waking cycle repeats here.

Give up and decide to chnge her, feed her and sit her down for a play...OH NO! she just wants to be held...and even then she's crying blue murder.

I put a cloth bum on her...she hasnt worn one since the diarrhea started...get it on and in 30 secs she has pooed it! NICE! So i clean her and go to take nappy out to rinse it and i dropped it face fcking down on the floor! Oh could it possibly get any worse here?
Im really struggling with this atm...just want to walk away...i never would you know that but the feelings definantly there...poor baby!

Sorry it was so long but you did ask Sandy..lol

ziggy29

04-07-2007, 11:10 AM

Juzzy - just had a thought. what type of baby bath are you using? i would stear clear of any soap based product and use just water or qv wash or alph keri oil.

roopee - sorry but i laughed when the poo went on the ground. at least there cant be too many bad days like today and it will be a funny storey for codys 21st

LMenz

04-07-2007, 11:11 AM

Can't wait till tomorrow...

Sandy your welcome to come over a bit early if you would like....just show up anytime :)

Jack's ok today...yesterday he screamed and I mean SCREAMED on and off for about 5 hours. Not sure what was wrong with him :confused: Could be his tooth...who knows? I couldn't put him down, he had all his sleeps in my arms. I rang to get his test results back and they need further investigation so will be a week away....god I hope it's nothing serious. I worried when she said the first tests were inconculsive

Roopee - HUGE :hugs: I can understand how you feel....I never realised how tough it is when they are sick. I can't even count how many nappies we went through last week....keeping Huggies in business that's for sure. Hope things get much easier for you soon.

Roopee

04-07-2007, 11:22 AM

juz- try the Dermaveen Moisturising Lotion for dry, itchy and sensative skin. Its really a miracle worker..its actually what they used (and are still usng) on Sophie Delizio and her little friend Molly to assist their burns scars.

zig- dont apologize for laughing....if anyone lese had posted it i would laugh too...im sure when its all over...and god help me it had better be soon...i'll have a god laugh about that too!:o

lmenz- *hugs* to you and Jack!

Rightio then...i think i finally have her asleep...im off to bed!

LMenz

04-07-2007, 11:22 AM

Here's my comparison photo's....

Jack - 3 days old
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1032.jpg

Jack - 4 Months
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1750.jpg

What a buddah!!! :D

juzzy

04-07-2007, 12:03 PM

ziggy - t the moment i am not using anything on cassidy to see if it contributes to her rash. I was using a johnson and johnson bath wash and thought that it may be adding to the problem.

Tanya - big :hugs: sounds like its been a long few days. Hope cody gets well soon. Can i get that Dermaveen stuff at the chemist? Cause if so i will head down there this afternoon and give it a try.

Hehehehehe did something for me today. My hair was getting really long (like down past the middle of my back, youd never know as i always have it up), i decided to get it cut off. I got about 5 inches taken off so it is now just past my shoulders. OMG i feel sooooo much better. DP isnt going to be impressed cause in his words "hes in love with my hair". OH BOO HOO:laughing: at least i feel better!

ETA: lauren, those photos of Jack are great! Isnt it amazing how different they are!! Ill see if i can get some comparison photos together and post them a bit later.

Roopee

04-07-2007, 12:09 PM

EskimoMumma

04-07-2007, 12:12 PM

Yep at the chemist and there also a wash called Pinetarsol...its awesome too...they work really well together...bath her in the Pinetarsol and then coat her reash wit the Dermaveen...she should feel a bit relieved.
Also if that doesnt get rid of it let me know and i can get you same nappy rash cream that the chemist here mixes up himself...its the best cream ever..it works on exsma (cant spell today) and everything else too...all natural too:yes:

Dermeze?

DD1 has eczema. QV/Cetaphile washes are the best to use. Pinetarsol for when it flares up. Its best to take her to the doctor when it flares up so she can have medicated cream and use it only when it does flare up again as well. But the one the chemist makes up here in victoria is Dermeze, its kind of like a vasoline feel and works great. I even use it for my contact dermatisis and its awesome. Dermeveen will be great for shampoo, if not the Gaia(sp??)range works well and when I use their shampoo on DD1 it doesnt cause her to flare up.Its also best to keep them in cotton as that helps their skin breathe, even if its a cotton singlet.

juzzy

04-07-2007, 12:22 PM

Thanks Tanya and Heather. Ill head down to the chemist shortly and let you know what happens.

harleyq

04-07-2007, 12:26 PM

Oh Tanya - geez poor you and poor Cody!!! I so hope that she has a good sleep for you today so you can both get some much needed rest - you both just need to catch a break!!! :hugs:

Wow, how our little munchkins are changing!!! I can't believe Jack was ever that small - l am going to have to do the same with Coen (comparison photos) -- oh BTW so far of all the stats we have - Coen is the heaviest!!! - but he's also the tallest.... l keep imagining everytime that l breastfeed that he is sucking the fat right out of my butt and thighs -- do you think???? me thinks l have a case of wishful thinking here!!!

If you haven't published your stats yet - it would be great if you could.... this little :geek: is creating a spreadsheet with it all that l will send to anybody who is interested (unless somebody can tell me how to publish it here)... Its quite interesting when you lay it all out there...
were collecting birth weight, length and head circumference & then the same for 4 months...

Better go and make the Mars Bar slice for tomorrow whilst my little man sleeps...

my_lot

04-07-2007, 01:46 PM

eli is 7.3kg- weighed today. dont know the rest as i got out the door quickly before i got stopped by the MCHN's.

4 days-
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_3099.jpg ((check out those fingers!))

1 month-
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0243.jpg

2 months-
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0351.jpg

3 months-
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4488.jpg

4 months-
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4893.jpg

and 5 months!!! -

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5469.jpg

icugal

04-07-2007, 02:33 PM

Can't write a big post right now as once again I have a squirmy five month old in my arms... however thought I'd post K's comparison photos again.. being as that's what we're doing (and keep them coming.. because it's great to see how everyone's bubs have grown)

http://www.penny-clark.com/kaelan/4monthgrowth.html

Also, I think I forgot to post a link to some portrait photos that we had done at the end of May.

http://www.penny-clark.com/kaelan/portrait.html

If I can manage to put K down for five minutes today.. I will probably finish the quilt I've been working on.. so I'll try to put a photo online of it when I do.

In the meantime, I'll be back once I have two functional hands in which to type a proper message.

:)

LMenz

04-07-2007, 03:54 PM

Kay......

Did you knit the pants in Eli's 3 month photo? They are fantastic!

I love the last pic too. Look how wet his top is from drool :laughing: Jack's exactly the same atm

harleyq

04-07-2007, 04:22 PM

I love the last photo to Kay - what struck me the most with both Kaelan and Eli (and its probably the same with Jack too but can't quite remember) is that they are just bigger versions of what they were when they were younger - not sure if what l am saying makes sense -but they each have distinctive features and just looking at the photos you would be easily able to match them up with their older selves...

Feeling a bit like a bad mother again - l was trying to get Coen down this afternoon and he just screamed like l was trying to kill him - l let him cry for a bit, then went in to him a couple of times - l held him a couple of times and in the end l breastfed him to sleep - and l just kept thinking l am a bad mother, he has wind and its my fault l should have tried harder to get more wind out, l should have given him infants friend or tried the infacol (thanks BTW Lauren) - is anybody elses baby difficult to get down at the moment? Isn't it supposed to be getting easier - is this a problem that l have created for myself? do l need to be firmer, softer, is it just wind (and l know he does have it cos he brings his legs up) and should l be giving him infants friend/infacol at every feed? Oh god he's up already - its been like 10 minutes!!!

I know l am not a bad mother (well most of the time l know that) - so don't feel you need to say that but please do share any advice or experience that you have...

I am procrastinating l don't want to go into Coen's room - when he sees me he will only cry louder - l will hide in here for 5 minutes 5.40pm and see if he quiets himself down... sh!t it just stepped up a notch.... distracting myself now, maybe l should turn the baby monitor off so l can't hear it as well??? :banghead:

Sometimes l think if l just keep him up l won't have these problems - but l know l will just have other ones as he gets overtired!

DH should be home soon.... 3 minutes to go before l will go to him... c'mon Coen!

SuperFrog

04-07-2007, 04:48 PM

Short post as i also have wiggly bub on lap.

More big hugs for the bubs still under the weather. :hugs:

Lauren - Liam also has a golliwog... the similarities between L and J continue! Someone knitted him one, although it is much bigger than your one. Kind of scary actually. I guess they aren't politically correct as you don't see them much anymore.

Gorgeous photos everyone. Will have to see if I have a comparison pic, or take one now to match a newborn one.

I have a non-sleeping bub again today. Probably 25 minutes all up. He usually sleeps in the car, but he was wide awake and looking very contemplative. Reminiscing about the good old days... :laughing:

juzzy

04-07-2007, 04:54 PM

ok here is my comparison photos.

One day old (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000203.jpg)

one month (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000247.jpg)

two months (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000344.jpg)

three months (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000464.jpg)

four months (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000584.jpg)

4.5 months old (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000636.jpg)

They arent the best photos, silly me never thought of doing comparison photos!!

Finally found the blue book and can give all the stats now.

Birth
Weight: 3.5kgs
Length: 49cms
Head circ: 35cms

4 months
Weight: 6.9kgs
Length: 61cms
Head circ: 42cms

LMenz

04-07-2007, 05:35 PM

is anybody elses baby difficult to get down at the moment? Isn't it supposed to be getting easier?

YES! and you will probably get to witness it first hand tomorrow :laughing:

Jack's been difficult as he's been sick but we seem to have some better days/weeks than others. Some days he will go to sleep on his own, some days I have to stroke his face to sleep, sometimes he will self settle. Not really sure why he can't do it himself all the time as he definately knows how to.

I'm very close to having a sleep person come to the house for some help/advice. My MCHN gave me a number of someone she recommends. This lady works for herself now but used to work at one of the sleep schools. If you get desperate enough Sandy I can pass the number on to you

I really hope he stayed asleep for you :)

JoJoMart

04-07-2007, 06:47 PM

Sandy - Liam is difficult to settle at the moment too....he's just gone down now and it took a while.........he woke at 2am, 4am then again at 5:30am last night. The 2am wake he wanted to play I think! The other two times he seemed uncomfortable (maybe a tummy ache) as he's had a bit of diahorrea.

Here's the stats on Liam:

Birth
Weight: 3.64kgs
Length: 50cms
Head circ: 35cms

4 months
Weight: 7.24kgs
Length: 64.5cms
Head circ: 41.3cms

Hels*Bels

04-07-2007, 07:56 PM

No stats from me, I can never be bothered with all that stuff. All I know is that he's bloody heavy as he probably weighs over 7 kgs and wears size 00 lol.

Had a good day today, R slept in until 9am. This afternoon I put him in his cot for his sleep (rather than the pram) and he slept for 2 hours :thumbsup: Mind you, it did take a while for him to go off to sleep initially.

We picked up the professional photos last night, we are very pleased with them. I'll post some when I can.

I have also been busy today getting things organised for my new business venture. I am just waiting for my stock to arrive and then it will be up and running, can't wait to get started.

I also had a bad headache today, one of my real nasties. It's the first bad one I have had since seeing the Neurologist and I tried some new tablets for the first time. And guess what... they worked! :smiliedance: I took 2 and needed to lie down for an hour, but that's a big improvement compared to writing the whole day off and getting DH home from work early.

Sorry it's all about me but I just wanted to catch-up :) .

Melb girls - I'm looking forward to the meet tomorrow, see you then!

icugal

04-07-2007, 10:12 PM

Alrighty.. catch up time.

What I love about being a mum -

Watching Kaelans eyes light up and seeing the big smile on his face when he sees me first thing in the morning
Being amazed at how something simple like plastic rings can provide so much entertainment for K
Watching him grow and develop every single day
The social network I've established since K was born (Mothers Group and Bubhub group as an example)
Just knowing that my body made this precious bundle (with a little help from daddy DNA of course)
Just the fact he is mine and knowing that I'm very lucky to have him given the complications I had with my pregnancy

Juzzy - Poor Cassidy... that rash looks awful !! I think enough other people here have posted what lotions and potions to try.. so I'd try them. K doesn't have a red rash like Cass, but he does have really rough patches of skin.. particularly on his legs. My MCHN thinks it could be the start of early excema (I hope not).. and she told me to put pure olive oil on it to moisturise it.. nothing else. Having said that, I still haven't tried the olive oil yet :)

Roopee - Hope Cody is doing better !!

Ren - Love the tat !! I've considered getting one with Kaelans name but my DF thinks I'm mad. Maybe once I've had a second baby (we only plan on having two).. then I can get one with both names on it.. like you did. In the meantime, I'll have to make-do with my little unicorn tattoo on my ankle.

Mon - Kaelan is also one of these non-sleeping bubs you mention... at least during the day anyway. I seem to be fighting to get him down at the moment... and all of a sudden he has decided that his bedtime is now midnight... so being that DF works afternoon shift and doesn't get home until after midnight... I'm not really getting much of a break from my little munchkin at the moment. He' very clingy too.. so if he is awake, then most of the time he is on my lap, in my arms etc. As much as I love him, my back is hurting from lugging him around everywhere.

Us - A funny thing happened this morning. I woke up and could hear music playing over the baby monitor. We usually play a lullaby CD when Kaelan first goes to sleep at night, but then it stops once all songs are played and no more. So when I woke and heard the music coming through, I starting freaking out, trying to figure out how it got turned on (electrical surge?? something falling on the play button?? ghostly activity???) and then it finally dawned on me that the music I could hear was not coming from the CD player, but actually from the Fisher Price Aquarium which is attached to the side of his cot. Obviously Kaelan had knocked the button that activates the Aquarium !!

I finished my very first quilt this afternoon. It's a bit shoddy, but if you don't look at it too closely then it looks ok (so if I bring it tomorrow Melb girls, no close-up inspections ok?).

http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/myquilt.jpg

Kaelan has learnt two new things in the last 24 hours:-

1) As of today he can now roll from his back to his tummy, though once he gets to his tummy, he has no idea what to do next and screams because he can't get back onto his back !!

2) He has learnt to squeal and screech in an awful tantrum-y way which is most displeasing to the ears. My quiet sedate baby is no more... he has now become evil ;)

And just to finish this off... thought you guys would be amused to learn that in my mothers group one of our mums is named Mary and her six month old daughter is Isabella (think Princess Mary). Freaky huh?

juzzy

04-07-2007, 10:38 PM

Took cassidy in to see the chemist.... says that she has eczma (sp?) and told me to use QV bath oil to try and help clear it up. Also to use a sorbelene creme when i give her a massage. He thinks it should go away with age and is apparently quite common in babies and young children. I still think that if it doesnt get better i will take her to the doctor. Poor kid.

Penny - love the look of that quilt. Doesnt look dodgy at all. Wish i could do that! Cassi also has this really high pitched squeal that really can hurt your ears. She likes to do it while we are in crowded places like shopping centres and things. She was doing it today while i was getting my hair cut, the hairdresser looked at me like i was a lunatic! Cant say i have heard the olive oil thing to treat eczma, but hey if nothing else works....

Cassi screamed the house down tonight. All started when DPs dad came to visit. He said hello to Cassi and she started screaming! Took ages to calm down and even then she was wimpering like no tomorrow. Gave her a bath and a massage.... poor bubba was still wimpering in her sleep when i put her in the cot. Dont know what got into her.

I mite be quiet for the next few days as i am going to visit my mum. I am planning to spent time at my sisters though, so maybe i can hop online while i am at her place. Hope the melb girls have fun at the meet, i hope to see lots of photos!

ziggy29

05-07-2007, 06:28 AM

i lucked out with one of the good babies.

This comment that i made about myself a few days ago has been playing on my mind so i am going to respond here about it.

Saying i lucked out with a good baby was me implying that i have had it easy and STILL havent coped well at all.

Then i started to really think about the last few months

It wasnt easy
- having a thickened nuchal fold and a baby at high risk of complications
- having a low birth weight baby with jaundice and a poor suck
- learnig to breast feed
- having a refluxy baby in constant pain and being covered in vomit all day
- imposing 3hrly feeding on drs advice
- having a baby who wouldnt sleep and carrying her around in a sling for 5 hours a day while pacing the hallway
- having a baby who woke 2-3 times a night until 4 months of age.
- suffering PND

how quickly we forget the challenges we have conquered in the past.

Being a mum is rarely easy but it is hugely rewarding. here is a dancing guy to congratulate myself on finding myself slightly more in control over the past few days. :smiliedance:

I just had to say that to myself. Big hugs to everyone living the mummy rollercoaster.

harleyq

05-07-2007, 08:15 AM

Well done on the quilt Penny - l am jealous, its looks fab to me!!!

Juzzy - we're going to miss you today! Photos of Cassidy are very cute - she is another one that has a very distinctive look - maybe all babies do and l was under some misconception.... or maybe its just as a mother l play closer attention then l did when l was just seeing this cute little people....
Have fun at your mums Juz

Sharon - when you right it all out like that its pretty amazing that you coped through it all isn't it? I don't even want to go through my list - it might put me off having another... :-)
Glad your feeling upbeat - see this week didn't turn out as bad as you thought it might!!!

I want to go see a movie! I'm going to take a look at what is playing at the next few mums & bubs sessions and see if we can't get a few of us together (l'll bring the info today)!!!

My little boy went down very easily for me last night - but l did absolutely everything to ensure that he didn't fall asleep at the breast, l'm talking jiggling, singing (ver badly), hopping on one leg (well scrap the last.. but you know what l mean)... so we managed to get some burps and a poo out of him - which meant he didn't have a whole heap of wind caught in there... lets hope we can do that everynight...

Quick question, how long is your bed time routine taking you? I'm including the whole thing, bath, feed, stories etc. what ever you include as part of bedtime? I ask this question cos l read something that suggests it should take between 20-30 minutes... mine consistently take 1-2 hours, usually closer to the 90 min -2 hours. I admit that we do let him play in the bath for about 20 minutes, and he gets a massage every night, and he usually feed for at least 20-30 minutes....

harleyq

05-07-2007, 08:20 AM

Melbourne Gals - Toy sales have begun!!!

Oh forgot to mention - to anybody who was also wowed by Kay's description of the LIttletouch Leappad and purchased one for their bubs, Kmart has the books on sale for $7.98 starting today, and Big W for $9 something - although l am wondering if l dreamed the Big W price now cos l can't find it in the catalogue!!! Both sales start today - so if you have time check them out!

my_lot

05-07-2007, 09:27 AM

hi everyone

sandy toy sales started today everywhere,

we were at the doors of kmart at 8am! having taken the others to vacation care first we were out the door very early today! it was nice because we (dp and i) were there with just bubby. at kmart we got the lego hospital (last one) and the airport and the house -20% off and then went onto big W to get the lego crane - it comes with a porta loo!

and thats it for us. the kids are getting science things ( from nat geo shop ect) books, boardgames, games for vtech, leapsters, leap pads and those things

and they have b/days either side of xmas too (3 out of 4 how good is my timing!)

we will be getting one a digital camera and the other an ipod.

so the toy sales are not much chop to us. every year i just get a few things for cousins kids and my nephew and thats it ...so no 4 hour waiting in layby for me! oooh and at 8:30 they were already 20 odd lined up at layby!

i didnt see any cheap books for the baby leap in bigW and our kmart doesnt sell the unit or books anymore.

my_lot

05-07-2007, 09:38 AM

we took eli to the heated indoor pools yesterday for his first swim.

his Itti bitti MCN (with no inserts) for his swim nappy and his Miffy swimmy cosi- what a spunk :cool:

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5480.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5479.jpg

oh BTW dp doesnt have 3 arms. dd is behind him.

mumslilspunks

05-07-2007, 02:36 PM

Kay- Looks like Eli enjoyed himself. What cute bathers.
I went to Big w and kmart and it was mayhem!! I couldnt belive the cues in both stores for lay by and even the registers.:banghead:

blubber

05-07-2007, 02:49 PM

Back again,

Skimmed through whats been happening and impossible to comment on everything.

DId notice you were talking about day/night sleeps and keepping bubs entertained. That came at the right time except i wasn't here. Hopefully i havn't missed the boat and someone may be able to offer some guidence.

Elly sleeps well during the day, up about 1.5 -2 hours most sleeps. Have stopped wrapping her during the day, she seemed to go alright without it. She will go to bed awake and besides putting the dummy back in she will sleep. SO this brings me to my dilema. Should we go cold turkey with the dummy to get her to self settle. It is the only reason we get up during the night a well?

had a pretty good time away except DH had to go to Alice Springs for the last 3 days for work.
Just like being at home again really, doing it alone.

Was really back to normality today although Mia is sick as a dog with fever, ears, cough etc. So to the doctors we went this morning. She had it a few weeks ago and had one antibitic and today the doctor gives her a differet one raising his eyebrows as to why she was given the first one WTF? SHe is 3 and this is only the third time she has needed antibiotics so really hard seeing her layed up on the lounge.

Hopefully Elly doesn't catch it.

The PND discussions of the past few days were interesting but i think i will just let them slide. Perhaps its all been said.... but I will say however your experience with motherhood/parenthood treats you it is generally unique. We all have similar baby issues etc but how you feel and cope is a personal experience. It just great that we have this place to share it all.

... ok Mia has a temp of 39.2 gotta ring the doctors. Had panadol at 2.30 as it was 37.2 mmm

ziggy29

05-07-2007, 03:18 PM

I must admit i was a bit dissapointed with the toy sale catalogues and didnt bother going. for all the hype i though things would be reduced much more than they were. i have been buying things here and there from toyrus when they have 50% stuff. infact i got out a 6months plus toy yesterday and lily loved it. i think she is getting sick of just batting things.

sandy - wtf 20mins? do these people really have kids? maybe they mean its what you do in those last 20 mins that leads to the sleep association...

here is our bedtime routine.

wake from late nap
solids
bath
dressed
milk feed
play on ground
to bed

i must admit she gets tired quickly in the evening so we have to move fast. the whole thing takes about 1 - 1.5 hours depending on how much she plays at the end.

blubber- re: getting rid of the dummy.

my opinion is if you dont go cold turkey then it may be confusing for her to know when she gets it and when she doesnt

if this is indeed what you want to do then maybe replace it with a comforter.

lily has one - it is a 30cm square of fabric with a pussy cat on it (not exactly following sids guidlines but it is thin and able to breathe through like a thin sheet).

wear it down your top so it will smell like you and then she might start to comfort herelf with that.

her is a picture of her with it.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/IMG_0110.jpg

is that any better you may ask? well at least you dont have to replace it. i think lily licks it as it is often wet in the morning. and get two of the same so you can wash them alternatively. if you want the details of where i got it then pm me.

purplebird - how is the trip going?

SuperFrog

05-07-2007, 04:57 PM

I'm starting to have the same questions re the dummy. Some nights he will sleep right thru without crying, but other nights, like last night, I'll be woken up to him crying many times and all he needs is the dummy put back in and he is asleep instantly. It's almost like he is crying in his sleep... dreaming perhaps? Should I try getting him to sleep without it? He is very dummy-dependent lately, both day and night. Could turn into a long-term issue I suppose.

Enjoyed the Melb meet today, thanks Lauren for letting us take over your house! Hope everyone got home okay, especially Hels and Jo... the traffic going out to the East looked horrendous.

Liam had his 4 month injections today (we're behind schedule as he was sick). One of his legs is starting to swell a bit, and is probably sore. The leaflet said to use a cold compress for any swelling, but I'm hesitant as it is so cold here anyway. Would Panadol help at all? Might give him some before bed. He's had it before when he was sick.

Chat on tonight?

my_lot

05-07-2007, 05:09 PM

mon- YES panadol. ive just booked eli in for his on monday- his 4 month ones. i will give it 4 hourly for 24 hours+ i remember how much the tetanus injection hurt me!

have you got a small ice pack you could use? wrap it in a tea towel or something first...it might make his lump better.

ill be in live chat. maybe a bit late again but ill be there.

LMenz

05-07-2007, 05:34 PM

blubber

05-07-2007, 07:16 PM

[quote=SuperFrog;1666364] He is very dummy-dependent lately, both day and night. Could turn into a long-term issue I suppose.

quote]

Mia (DD1) only gave hers up when she was three and it was a heart breaking two-three days. So not only am i thinking of the long term, but our sanity at night. However i always come back to the thought that it is such a welcome comforter and after all they are a baby!!

[quote=ziggy29;1665970]

here is our bedtime routine.

wake from late nap
solids
bath
dressed
milk feed
play on ground
to bed

blubber- re: getting rid of the dummy.

my opinion is if you dont go cold turkey then it may be confusing for her to know when she gets it and when she doesnt

if this is indeed what you want to do then maybe replace it with a comforter.

lily has one - it is a 30cm square of fabric with a pussy cat on it (not exactly following sids guidlines but it is thin and able to breathe through like a thin sheet).

wear it down your top so it will smell like you and then she might start to comfort herelf with that.

her is a picture of her with it.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/ziggy29/IMG_0110.jpg

is that any better you may ask? well at least you dont have to replace it. i think lily licks it as it is often wet in the morning. and get two of the same so you can wash them alternatively. if you want the details of where i got it then pm me.

Firstly Sharon this routine is what we have done today almost to a copy, well Elly has devised actually and now we think we may let her go until morning. Usually she has a dream feed.

The comforter thing is a great idea, do you think that becasue she has so much contact from DH and me that only me "sticking it down my top" will do the trick.

Did you do this from when Lily was a newborn? I am wondering if it will take effect at 4 months. Do i throw that in with her first with the dummy then take the dummy away?

Does this mean Lily does not have a dummy at all?
Sorry about all the questions but just trying to work out a plan

Hannah: Hope the trip goes well and the shopping is good.

Hope all you Melb girls had a good day today and the bubs enjoyed themselves as well.
I must say when i read about your get togethers i laugh (in respect) about the comments you make about the trip home. I guess that is the bouns about living in a smallish town, no traffic hassels. We used to live 1 hour away from town and were able to travel 100 k's in just over 40minutes.

Hope to be in live chat soon.

PS i think i stuffed up a bit of my post hope its's not too confusing

blubber

05-07-2007, 07:17 PM

ok that really does look confusing..just pass over it if you can't make sense.

6 days away from home and i have lost the plot!!

harleyq

05-07-2007, 07:44 PM

Kay - Eli looks gorgeous in the bathers and really looks like heis enjoying himself.

Hels - thanks for bringing those things for me today
Lauren - big thanks for hosting today.

I am exhausted!!! and l didn't even do anything much today.

JoJoMart

06-07-2007, 08:45 AM

Hi girls :wave:

I have to admit I'm a bit over the toy sales. Went into KMart and BigW the other day and it was a bit crazy.......plus toys placed all over the place so I couldn't find what I was looking for and the pram didn't fit down the isles! This is at Southland in Melb.

Lauren - Big thanks for yesterdays meet at your place. It was really nice and relaxing......I hope it was for you? I hope Jack gets better really soon.......it's horrible dealing with a sick bub because they need even MORE attention than they usually demand which as you know is a lot :) I got home in 40 mins going home the way Sandy suggestion (thanks Sandy) which I should have realised myself as we've gone that way to Essendon before but I have baby brain still :o

Mon - I know what you mean about the dummy......sometimes Liam wakes up and I put it back in his mouth and he falls asleep but I don't think he's too dependent on it because this doesn't happen often......

Ziggy - the comforter idea sounds great.....I might get one for Liam, how cute is the photo of Lily!

Liam seems to have a pattern of every 2nd night waking at 4am in the morning then again at 5:30. He did this again last night and he wasn't hungry I don't think because I could easily settle him back to sleep. Didn't have his blankies off or anything but replaced the dummy (oh oh) and he was fine with a bit of settling.

I'm off to Medicare this morning then to a Toy shop that sells lots of educational and wooden toys........I want to get something for Liam that's different to the usual.....he seems to get so bored so easily :(

Hels*Bels

06-07-2007, 10:07 AM

Thanks to everyone for the meet today. Hope you all got home ok.......

Jack's just gone down but is still whinging every now and then. He's still not 100% and today was a bit much for him I think

Hels - I'm so sorry for picking Reece up I feel terrible. He was smiling at me in the bouncer....I hope he wasn't too unsettled from it.

I felt like the biggest baby jinx today..they all cried on me

Kay - Love Eli's swimming pics...where did you get his bathers from?

Welcome Back Marianne

Thanks for hosting yesterday. It's always a shame that we have to leave so early due to the traffic :thumbsdown: Reece was fine, and don't worry he did the same thing to Juzzy last week lol

We got home after about 1.5 hours. I took Dandy road and stuffed up near home (my fault I missed a turn) so I could have done it in just over an hour I think. At least the scenery wasn't so boring lol.

DH wants to go the boat show tomorrow, it's on at Geoff's shed. We used to have a 20ft Mustang Boat when we lived on the Gold Coast (ahh... those were the days!) Anyway, we like to have a squizz around at these types of Expos. We have to get the car serviced in the morning so I'll get DH to go there by himself and wait. Otherwise R will be feral for the rest of the day if he doesn't get his sleeps. No plans for sunday yet, I need to do some bookwork I think :cool:

Have a good weekend everyone :)

blubber

06-07-2007, 10:28 AM

Ok..that was hard...just put Elly down without the dummy.

She cried then she screamed for about 8 minutes and has gone to sleep. I kept going in to comfort her at about 1 minute intervals.

I had a thing to use as a comforter that i never used for Mia. It got a quick shove down my top before putting it in bed with her. After two more visits she is asleep.

Ok so I may be jumping the gun, well I know I am but I guess it is a start.

We were just sick of getting up in the middle of the night to just replace the dummy.

Mia is a little better today,the temp seems to have stabilised. She had a terrible night with dreams/talking in her sleep and wanting us. At one stage she yelled out,
"I want a cup of tea"
Se did drink alot of water during the night and ended up in bed with us at 4.30am. So out of character for her.

Have a good day everyone

harleyq

06-07-2007, 12:59 PM

Marianne - glad to hear Mia is feeling a better, and well done on the no dummy - 8 minutes isn't at all bad - :fingerscrossed: I'm crossing my fingers for you that it only gets easier!
Jo - I did the comforter thing when l was trying to get rid of the dummy as well - and it worked for me also - so if you really are concerned about it then it is worth a shot - if not - forget l said anything - just a word of warning - whilst dummies can be a pain in the @rse when you have to keep putting them back in, they can also be a life saver when you know that they just need some comfort and the sucking action would do that for them (Coen refuses to take the dummy now - so sometimes l think what have l done???? But most of the time l am glad l got rid of it)!!!

Went to the toy sales today - Jo - my experience was much like yours, l couldn't get through many of the aisles - it was just annoying... l ended up getting a Littletouch leappad story to go with the system l bought the other day (toys r us $14); a bubble dispenser for the bath (Lauren if your reading this - l looked for another one to get for you, cos they were running very low - but l got the last ones (Kmart Northland))... and thats it - l was fed up by the end of it... I haven't been to Big W yet... and l don't think l will go to by honest....

OKay - l probably shouldn't say this cos l might jinx myself - but remember last weekend how l mentioned l read that book about sleep settling - and how DH and l argued about it - he said l should try it when l am home on my own... anyway - l have been using the techniques and Coen has been a dream to get down during the day, surprising to me he even went down without much fuss twice at Laurens, and today at sleep time l just put the blanket over his pram at Northland and he was down like a light... and he is a much happier baby for it - not that Coen ever really was too bad when he was overtired, but it just got harder and harder to put him down the longer we went without a sleep...
Coen is still usually only sleeping for about 40-50 minutes but we have also had a few longer sleeps since moving to this new technique... what ever is going on it is working for us and l am sooooooooooooooooooo happy :fingerscrossed: it sticks!!!

No plans as yet for the weekend.

blubber

06-07-2007, 01:20 PM

Sandy: Ii know what you are saying about the times you wish you had a dummy. It was going through my mind this morning. I guess we just have to learn new ways to soothe bubs. A longer cuddle, a walk around a stern whisper in their ear..haha.

Elly has just gone for another sleep and when i went back she was sucking on her thumb...mmm not sure that this is a good idea. But she is snuggling the comforter.
Ok four minutes and she is asleep!!:smiliedance:

I guess the test will be when she wakes mid sleep and how she re-settles.

Toy Sales: It is a good time to get some bargains but from experience the things you want they only have 2 of and there is never a raincheck on them. I havn't even thought about Xmas yet let alone seen what is at the sales.

harleyq

06-07-2007, 01:47 PM

Update - Coen has now been asleep for 90 minutes... I am worshipping my sleep book now... :D I have never had this much free time in one go before!!!

blubber

06-07-2007, 02:03 PM

Lap it up Sandy.

What was the book? I think i missed that discusion..if there was one?

SuperFrog

06-07-2007, 02:20 PM

Sandy... I demand that you tell me your sleep book secrets!

Liam had his immunisations yesterday and had a bit of a reaction last night. We ended up putting him in the pram in our room. I don't know how co-sleeping parents do it! He made so many little noises that I just couldn't tune them out. He seemed to be fine so we put him back in his own room around 4am so we could get some sleep. He's much better now... just a bit more grumbly and crying more than usual. Over-tired I think.

Going to visit our friend tonight who had a baby girl on Wednesday. She also has a three-year-old boy, so I think I'll buy her something very girly this afternoon.

juzzy

06-07-2007, 02:32 PM

Can anyone tell me if teething can effect appetite? Cassidy is teething and hasnt been really interested in food all day. What she has had ive practically had to force her to take.

Went to the toy sales in Frankston today on my way back home. Done all my Christmas shopping for both Cassi and DPs nephew. Bought Cassi the leap frog little tad, some books, hi 5 dvds (she loves hi 5 already...... ), and a few small things. Also bought some books for the little touch off ebay last night as besides TRU cant get them anywhere else. For DPs nephew, hes really into transformers (and once he likes something it sticks around for ages) so bought him a few transformer toys and a colouring book.

I know once Christmas gets closer i will want to get her more, but will try to restrain myself as i dont want a house full of toys. I will probably get her some clothes (for Christmas) and birthday presents around Christmas time as there are usually some good sales on around then.

There wasnt massive crowds or anything like that either which i was surprised about. I had braced myself for crazy people fighting over Elmo toys or something but none of that thankfully, it was such an enjoyable experience that Cassidy fell asleep in the pram. Same thing when i went to kmart in Geelong yesterday.

Sandy - great news about Coen sleeping, cant say that i have sleep issues with Cassidy but what was the theory behind the sleep solution? I cannot recall if it has been mentioned before or not.

Lauren - dont feel to bad about reece, he cried when i held him the other day. Worse still, when he saw my DP he burst into tears!!

As for the weekend, not much happening here. Seems like it could be raining all weekend, so might get some DVD and chocolate and hang out on the couch

LMenz

06-07-2007, 03:02 PM

Sandy - What is that book called and where can I get one? :laughing: Sounds like a dream...it took us 50 minutes to get Jack down this morning and after that I called the sleep consultant...I'M FED UP!! She hasn't called me back yet. Were going to see what she charges and then think about having her come to the house. It's getting ridiculous when it takes him that long to settle and he only sleeps for 40 mintues :banghead:

I went to the toy sales (KMART) also today and Sandy you should have gone to Barkly Square in Brunswick - It was quiet and they had heaps of stock left.

We got Jack (for Christmas) the Fisher Price baby block walker, water fun pirate ship and the inflatable crocodile playball pool.

We also bought the Fisher Price Ready Steady Rider for his Ist Birthday (it was 50% off)

Last night in Live Chat we were discussing taking bubs temperature...I picked up an instant ear themometer at Chemist Warhouse today for $44.95 - it was half price! They sell online if anyone is interested. They also have boxes of Huggies for $29.99.

DH is about to take Jack for a walk....YAY! I love having him home! It's nice to finally have some help.

The dreamfeed backfired on us last night too. It only seems to work if Jack wakes himself up..not if we wake him up :confused: Weird?? Not sure whether to keep going with it or not

I'll be back on later tonight as DH is going to the football so will be looking to amuse myself :)

LMenz

06-07-2007, 03:03 PM

Can anyone tell me if teething can effect appetite?

Juz....from what I've read it can. Hope it's not too painful for her :)

icugal

06-07-2007, 04:28 PM

Hey Girlies.. hope you're all having a nice day :)

Thought I'd do something a little different today and went down to our local library (with the girls from my mothers group) for a mum and bubs session. Basically we all got together and sung kids songs/nursery rhymes to the bubs for 30 minutes. I was a little self conscious at first.. but after awhile I got into the swing of it (I don't think Kaelan knew what the hell was going on *LOL*). It was fun I suppose and am considering going back next week.

In other news, I've decided to sign Kaelan up for some swimming "classes" at our local Leisure Center. These classes dont come cheap (there are 10 sessions in total)... but I thought it would be a nice mum/bub activity for us to do. It's going to be held on Wednesdays from the 18th June. Now I just have to find some type of nappy bathers for K to wear.

Tonight, DF and I are considering going down to Campbellfield Kmart (for the toy sale) as it is open to midnight. I'm kinda hoping that it might be a little quieter out of traditional shopping hours... though I doubt it. The only problem with this store is that even at the best of times, there is always $hit everywhere... it's always such a mess (have considered complaining to management several times before). Trying to circum-navigate the store with a pram is always a bloody nightmare.

I don't know what low-life's normally shop at Campellfield KMart.. but they're the sort of people who open up sealed packets and then just throw the contents down on the floor when they deem them to be be not good enough.. I hate that !! It makes you wonder what state these people's homes are in.

Normally we shop at another store... but with our own shift work in conjunction with a major sale... sometimes the after hour convenience of Campbellfield is all we have... unfortunately.

LMenz

06-07-2007, 06:42 PM

Me again :wave:

I'm bored..I'm actually avoiding doing my jewellery orders. Jack went down well tonight....I'm wondering if it's because I put him down. I think my DH hypes him up too much with his bedtime stories

Were off to visit my mum tomorrow..where she lives it will probably be snowing. Should be a good day I hope. On Sunday my SIL is visiting from Sydney......

As DH is on annual leave were heading off sometime next week to Port Fairy for a few days for some fishing and relaxation. Looking forward to getting out of the house

Well pretty quiet here tonight.....Sleep Well :)

harleyq

06-07-2007, 07:06 PM

Lauren - bugger - l thought Northland would be better, might head down to Barkly sq. tomorrow then... oh and thanks for the tip about Huggies, l am running low so might have to get some... and lastly you got a great bargain on the ear thermometer, mine was $90!!!
:smiliedance:Jack on going down so well, good luck with the visiting this weekend.

The book is called the Sleep sense program and it is by Dana Obleman - if anybody is interested in it please PM me.
A few basic tips -
* bed time for 3-6 month olds should be between 7-8 pm (she is pretty firm that 8pm should be the very latest -- Coen used to go to bed between 8-9 sometimes even 9.30 if we were having a bad night -- we have been trying to get his bedtime to 7-8)
* bed time routine should only be 20-30 minutes (l ignore that one cos Coen eats for 20-30 minutes alone) - but we have shortened our routine a little... and l know our routine works for us... it is the only play time he gets with Daddy on weekdays (in the bath)
*NO PROPS - this means dummies, feeding to sleep etc. -- l try this as much as possible, but Coen fell asleep on me tonight and no matter what l did l couldn't wake him

For day time sleeps
* Babies our age should not be awake for longer than maximum 2 hours at a time -- this was my biggest mistake, if Coen didn't go to sleep in a reasonable time l would get him up, or sometimes l would let him go 3 hours etc.... she goes so far to say 1-2 hours...
* If bubs has a day sleep for less than 1 hour, when they wake up, leave them in their cot for 15 minutes or so before you go to them - they may self settle (l thought NO WAY - but guess what, Coen has self settled back for 90 minutes sleeps 3 times this week, previously l was lucky if he had done it twice in the first 4 months of his life!!!)

What l have found -- since implementing this -Coen WANTS to sleep every two hours - he will sleep virtually anywhere once it gets to his two hour limit - providing l make it possible for him (i.e. today at Northland l just put the blanket over his pram; l did the same at Lauren's twice yesterday).... and he went to sleep without any dramas (such a different experience to a fortnight ago at Jo's house)!

Today l am convinced l have an angel baby :angel: he has been so unbelievably well behaved, happy and sooooooooooooooo easy to put down -- and this is NOT normal for Coen - he used to be a nightmare to get down during the day some days.... I am crossing everything that it continues -- l got so much done today - and l enjoyed being with him sooooooo much more cos of it...

Mon - glad to hear that Liam did fairly well last night - Coen was niggling a bit for a few days after his needles last week - and he was a nightmare to get to sleep (which is why l pulled out this book - l was at my wits end) -- and now he is better than he was ever before!!

I hope this doesn't sound like l am gloating - l am just really really excited to have my first truly wonderful day - where l haven't - not for one minute wondered what the hell am l doing? or when is it going to get easier? or questioned my mothering abilities or something similar!!!

Penny - good luck shopping - hopefully your experience is better than mine!

ziggy29

06-07-2007, 07:42 PM

What a wonderful day the feb mummies have had.

Sandy - fantastic work with Coen. Great tips from the book. similar to the program/book me and lily use. isnt it great when you find something that suits your family and WORKS!

Blubber - fantastic work with elly. it is great that she is settling better. dont be surprised if one time in the next few days she ramps up the protesting for her dummy. lily did this just when i thought we were all over it - just had to hang in there and not give in iykwim.

penny - thanks for asking - i did have a good day today.

went to work and it was a lot better today - finally felt like i had half a clue. had a mini run in with centrelink re family payment B. i just want to know the rules - why do they make you feel like a felon??

mum looked after lily from 1030 till 345pm. i actually think it is better leaving her for longer because the minders need to deal with the cosequences of their actions themselves - eg if they down put her down till she is overtired then she will only sleep for 20 mins. and then they are the ones who need to keep her going till the next feed (not me).

whem i got back to her she was so happy to see me and had a BF straight away which was lovely. and when i finally got hope we both had a short nap to recover from the stress of the day.

havent eaten dinner yet - dh and i are having a few beers.

looking foward to the bris expo meet on sunday

have a great weekend.

ziggy29

06-07-2007, 07:54 PM

Guess what ??
he/she/its back!!!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

we love you rollie eyes!!

icugal

06-07-2007, 10:51 PM

Ok.. well after b!tching about the Campbellfield K-Mart earlier... I must now swallow my pride and take it all back... well, at least for tonight anyway.

The store was pretty tidy considering the sale... there was heaps of stock available and the best bit was that we walked straight up to a register at lay-by without having to cue up at all. Was very, very impressed :)

We ended up buying a ride-on trike type thing (you know the plasticy infant type ones), a Whinnie the Pooh kiddies foam couch, some bath toys, an inflatable croc ball-pit, a couple Little Golden Books, a Sesame Street Book collection, and a couple of DVD's (Hi-Five and Sesame Street). We've taken into account that we are buying for both christmas and his first birthday.

I'm sure there will be more purchases.. I've still got to get to Big W.. and Target will have their sale in a couple of weeks. I'm actually on the look-out for a big cuddly teddy bear for Kaelans first birthday (I got my teddy bear for my first birthday so continuing the tradition).

This kid is going to be so spoilt !!

my_lot

07-07-2007, 06:43 AM

morning all.

im awake and my baby is not. always the way of it. when i want to sleep hes awake. why cant he sleep at 8am on a school day!

penny- what ride on did you get. i noticed they had a fisher price one on sale $39. thats the one i got a few weeks back at the toyworld sale. pretty cute with a juicy cup holder!

your gifts sound great. should be a fun 1st birthday and xmas

i got a bear when i was born, he came from england. we didnt follow it on with our kids but he is sitting on the bookshelf with all the special things and kids pics-he has each of the kids umbilical cord clamps tied around his neck with pretty ribbons!

i think dp is off to buy an exercauser thingo today. either that or a jolly jumper. after yet another talk about eli screaming driving me nuts (we had hours of it yesterday) he thinks it will make my life a whole lot easier having eli upright- where he wants to be...he knows how i feel about this but one by one im starting to cave on all my ideas with this baby. he came with a chinese instruction book.

one last thing
i just wanted to ask my fellow ebayers something-

i won something last sunday night and have since emailed 5 times (once a day) asking for the postage costs. i have no reply. so how long do i keep this up for? do i contact ebay or just not bother with the seller? i dont want a Neg when they decide im a non paying buyer.

LMenz

07-07-2007, 07:59 AM

Kay - Did you get your mail yet? :)

Hels*Bels

07-07-2007, 08:31 AM

Kay - PM me the details and I'll have a look at it and (hopefully) give you some advise.

Sandy - That's great about the sleep book and routines. I have always done the 2 hour thing with R, hence why he always seems to be asleep during the meets lol.

DH has taken the car in for service and R is asleep so I am killing time here when I should be having a shower at least :rolleyes:
We are going to the Boat Show this arvo. I hope we don't get tempted... but then again, we have no money anyway :laughing:

Welcome back Mr Rolley Eyes :rolleyes: ! :smiliedance:

SuperFrog

07-07-2007, 10:03 AM

Yay for Mr. Rollie Eyes! We missed you so. :rolleyes: Wonder what prompted the comeback?

I usually try and do the nap after 1.5 hours or so with Liam. Lately his naps have only been for 20 minutes or less, so maybe I'll leave him in his cot for a while after he wakes. Most of the times he wakes up calmly and plays with his hands, but once he sees me he gets all excited. Maybe I'll have to be sneaky when I check in on him.

Went to see our friend's baby last night. She seemed so tiny, even though she is 8lb 14oz! I can't remember Liam being smaller than that.

Liam seems to be fine now and we all had a great sleep last night.

SuperFrog

07-07-2007, 10:21 AM

I just realised that DH turned 31 back in May and I hadn't updated his age in my signature. Geez we're getting old! :laughing:

icugal

07-07-2007, 11:45 AM

penny- what ride on did you get. i noticed they had a fisher price one on sale $39. thats the one i got a few weeks back at the toyworld sale. pretty cute with a juicy cup holder!

I think I got the same one you did... definately had a little drink holder in it. I'm pretty sure it was $39 too(save $40)

I just realised that DH turned 31 back in May and I hadn't updated his age in my signature. Geez we're getting old!

Old?? Pfftt !!! :rolleyes: (<-- just had to use him)

my_lot

07-07-2007, 12:13 PM

yep that sounds like it -$40 off.

you only get one chace at putting it together. the way you snap it down is the way it stays! thats why we got the guy at toyworld to put ours together cos a few years back we put the legs on a fisher price walker/ride on and one wasnt right and it wouldnt come apart. the instructions are very clear that it will be locked for good!

oh and i plan to put a dolly in the cup holder! we will be buying eli a doll for his first birthday like we did for ds1.

LMenz

07-07-2007, 07:09 PM

Today l am convinced l have an angel baby :angel: he has been so unbelievably well behaved, happy and sooooooooooooooo easy to put down -- and this is NOT normal for Coen - he used to be a nightmare to get down during the day some days.... I am crossing everything that it continues -- l got so much done today - and l enjoyed being with him sooooooo much more cos of it...

That's so fantastic Sandy, Well Done!

Thanks for the info on sleeping. I'll try the re-settling thing. He does it in the mornings sometimes but not during the rest of the day. I think for us it's all about timing...if he gets just a tad overtired then it's all over. He will be ratty for the entire day. I feel really responsible if he doesn't get his sleeps as it must be awful for him to be so tired. I'm just going to have to be stricter with DH and relatives I think

you only get one chace at putting it together. the way you snap it down is the way it stays! thats why we got the guy at toyworld to put ours together cos a few years back we put the legs on a fisher price walker/ride on and one wasnt right and it wouldnt come apart. the instructions are very clear that it will be locked for good!

I bought this one too...thanks for the tip!

US - Had a good day visiting my mum. Things have been a bit tense between us for a while but she seemed much better today. She really does love seeing Jack.

We took this photo today...How's this for a smile?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_0031.jpg

Jack went down well again tonight so I think it is my DH that hypes him up... :shame:

Were also starting swimming lessons when Jack is 6 months...DH want's to come too. I love the water and swimming so I'm hoping Jack will too

Hope everyone else is having a good weekend :D

Squiggles

07-07-2007, 07:30 PM

:wave:Hi Feb mummas... oh how I have missed you!!!!

Sorry but I have missed nearly a month's worth of goss so i am just going to start again from today, so excuse me for not knowing what has been happening and just rambling about us...

Well FIL is still alive and kicking, after 3 weeks in hospital he has been sent home for a few weeks on some pretty hardcore medication to decide whether or not he wants to have an operation to repair the dissection in his aorta. If he decides to have the operation there is a very slim chance of survival and if he chooses not to have it then he can literally drop dead at any second. It's pretty sad but it seems as though he has managed to talk himself into some dillusional state that now he has been discharged from hospital he now thinks there is nothing wrong with him and is acting like nothing happened... back on the smokes too :banghead: MIL is a wreck still and has lost so much weight and isn't sleeping. The doctor told her that she needs to be aware that if anything happens to him and his blood pressure spikes then it will be catastrophic - so she told us that she lies awake at night and watches him sleep. DH has now pretty much said his goodbyes IYKWIM and now if anything happens then Im sure he will be Ok, we have had a few weeks to talk it over together and with BIL and SIL. Just a waiting game now.

Other bad news unfortunately... some of you may remember I was complaining a little while back about Connor all of a sudden turning completely ferral and that he stopped sleeping through the night... well it has gotten progressively worse and he has been having screaming fits constantly and refused to drink anything at all - got to the point he was screaming and thrashing around at the sight of his bottle, we had to feed him with a syringe just to get fluid into him. He has been back and forth to our GP and to the paediatrician and has been diagnosed with reflux and is now on Zantac - which is helping slightly, he is now drinking about 60 mls each feed 0p better than nothing! He has also started on solids and not going so well there... but we will keep trying.

Hope this doesn't sound all too doom and gloom. Im feeling pretty good tonight for a change!! Dh is watching the Rugby and I am stuffing my face with salami and brie cheese and a glass of sav blanc and catching up on some sorely missed bub hubbing and ebaying.

:smiliedance: So glad to be back, can't wait to catch up on all the goss - hope all is well!

Jen xxx

blubber

07-07-2007, 07:33 PM

LMenz

07-07-2007, 07:39 PM

Welcome Back Jen :wave: I missed ya!

Poor Connor...I hope the reflux improves for him (and you) Looking forward to chatting again :)

harleyq

07-07-2007, 07:52 PM

Glad you had fun today with your mum Lauren. Jack is really enjoying poking out his tongue - what a cutie!

Jen - welcome back, :hugs: it sounds like you have been having a tough time of late - your one tough cookie!!! I love your munchies - everything we couldn't eat whilst pregnant - but craved so much -- brie, salami & sav blanc - your a woman after my own heart

marianne - hope Elly and Mia feel better soon - good luck tonight

I bought a high chair today off Ebay - am picking it up tomorrow - will be over your side of town Hels / Juzzy!

LMenz

07-07-2007, 08:26 PM

I just added a ticker thingy which said Jack was 20 weeks old, 3 days ago :o oops...we've still been telling people he's 4.5 months

No more posts from me I'm off to bed......:sleeping:

Roopee

07-07-2007, 08:26 PM

:wave: Jen!! Good to see you back on the boards...we've missed you! Hope everythings ok with you and that your all ok!

Cody is back to her normal self today!:smiliedance: I have heard her laugh, giggle and cack herself laughing!!! Oh its so nice to have my baby back...it has been a tough 10days or so and very scary but thankfully she is all better now!!!

I went out yesterday and bought myself a new fridge! Needed to do something to try to make myself feel better so i spent money...what better way lol. All our insurance money camt thru last week so i just had a small (well ok....large) splurge on omething i have wanted for along time!! Felt great too! Dh not too impressed..especially seeing as when he came home from work yesterday...there...in our driveway was our new fridge...waiting to be transported inside lol. Then he had to spend today plumbing as the frigde has water and ice on the door hehehehehehehehe....oh well he'll get over it. Actually think he already is...he's sitting here with a bourbon and coke on ice!!

Hels*Bels

07-07-2007, 08:37 PM

We just got home, we spent the arvo at the Boat Show and had a good time. I think some poor sales guy thought he was going to sign us up at one stage, at $40,000 a go I don't think so lol.

Afterwards we had dinner at Crown as we had parked there anyway. R was very well behaved and was charming the waitresses!!

I asked one young waitress to warm the water for his bottle, it came back hot enough to make a cup of tea with it! So I had to wait 40 minutes to feed him but he was ok. But now I want to put him to bed but he won't take another bottle just yet :rolleyes:

Lauren - Great photo, so cute!

Sandy - We will be home all day tomorrow so please pop in for a cuppa if y'like. I have bookwork to do and I told DH he can put his apron on and do some housework :laughing:

juzzy

07-07-2007, 09:31 PM

Evening

hope everyone is having a good weekend

Ours hasnt been too bad. DP and i got to sleep in until 9am when Cassidy woke up, she was then in bed with us until 11, sleeping on and off. We then went to lunch at pancake parlour (lol, what classy people we are!). By the time we got home it was time for Cassi to go down for her nap and then i went back to bed from 3pm until 7pm!! Hahahaha. Ive been so tired of late i really needed that sleep. Cassidy was so well behaved today.

Is really runny poop also a sign of teething? The poor kid has been grumpy (cept for while we were out today) on and off and is trying to chew on everything in sight.

Hels - oh i love teasing the sales guys like that. We did that when DP was thinking about updating his car.... the sales people harrassed him for a month about it, but in the end we decided that we couldnt afford it (yeah ok, we knew that from the start.... lol)

Tanya - thats how i make myself feel better too, needless to say i have gone overboard recently, but hey i feel better for it!! hahaha cant say the same for DPs bank account....

Sandy - ill b home too, so feel free to pop in

Must be off, time for bed again... lol

bAaM

07-07-2007, 10:12 PM

Hi guys I'm a bit late on the comparison photos but here they are.

1 Week old
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/mums_angels/Marissa03-02to10-02-2007046.jpg

2 months
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/mums_angels/smiles001.jpg

3 months
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/mums_angels/cooperandmarissa096.jpg

4 months
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/mums_angels/bubba023.jpg
5 months
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/mums_angels/5months002.jpg

I also want to add these to just cause my bubba is so cute.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/mums_angels/5months006.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/mums_angels/5months004.jpg (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/bub playing)

I'm still catching up on the thread will get back to you later :wave:

Alicia
xxxxx

Hels*Bels

08-07-2007, 10:59 AM

Here are some comparison photos of Reece;

4 Days old (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/Asleep.jpg)

2 Weeks old (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/9thFeb20072.jpg)

7 Weeks old (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/7wksbouncer3.jpg)

3 Months old (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/23-4-073.jpg)

4 Months old (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/MCNYellowGK.jpg)

5 1/2 Months old (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/BunnyEars1.jpg)

JoJoMart

08-07-2007, 01:13 PM

Sandy - great news that Coen now sleeps a lot longer and is easier to settle.....that book sounds great! When it says to leave them for 15 minutes as they might self settle does that mean you can't go in to them at all? I do go in to Liam and it usually helps re-settle but is this counter productive?

Juz - Liam is teething and has been a real pain with feeding lately. He will pull off the bottle constantly and takes ages to feed sometimes. Other times he's fine. He also had some diarrohea the other day that worried me a bit. So, not sure if it's related to teething or not??

Lauren - I don't blame you for getting a sleep consultant or at least enquiring about one.....that's way too long to settle Jack, how exhausting for you. Port Fairy sounds great I hope you enjoy it.

Jen - welcome back. Sorry to hear that things aren't so great for your FIL but it sounds like you and your hubby have made some peace with it all........your poor MIL sounds quite stressed though. Re: reflux, Liam has this and is on Zantac which has helped him a lot. He still has unsettled times when feeding but it's got better thank god. Good luck.

Liam has been really good lately........he is usually unsettled around 4pm (arsenic hour) but otherwise he's been sleeping better during the day......I often have to resettle him though if he wakes in half an hour, for instance. DH and I were supposed to go shopping today but he went to Bunnings and has taken too long.........I wanted to check out porta cots.........has anyone got a really good one that folds and is easy to carry/transportable?

Hels - good to hear you weren't tempted too much to buy a boat! Glad to hear that Reece behaved. Love your pics of Reece too

ziggy29

08-07-2007, 03:30 PM

One thing i do remember from the first time around was to always try and resettle after they wake around that 40minute period. They have a sleep cycle that after that time they will stir.

We were doing the comforter thing without dummy the past two days and today has been a nightmare. Elly has picked up a bit of Mia's illness and had a bit of constipation so has made it hard to establish what is wrong when she wakes.
I might add that DH and I, as good as he is, cant seem to make a decision on what we believe is best. It worked really well for me on Friday by myself but today has not been so successful. As i said could be to do with the aliements that Elly is suffereing.
She screamed for 25minutes at 4.30am and we gave in.

She had a bit of solids a good play a bath and a bottle and was sounder at 7.05pm. Wrpapped and no dummy so eill see how it goes.

Sharon if you are reading do you have any advice?

Cheers all

PS: i am making Laksa for the first time, hope it works

I think that if elly is sick let her have the dummy if she wants it until she feels better. then if you want to try to stop it again when she is feeling better then you will know for sure that she is only crying for the dummy not because she is not feeling 100%.

Definately keep using the comforter (plus or minus the dummy) in the mean time to get her used to it. try and use it at all sleep times and take it away when she is not sleeping so she works out that when she has she is suppose to sleep.

hope that helps.

Squiggles - so good to here from you and thank you for sharing the rocky road you have been on. dont forget we do live chat on tues and thurs evening if you ever have time to drop in.

my_lot

08-07-2007, 03:53 PM

i just got home!

be on later tonight. dp has just walked in the door too.

blubber

08-07-2007, 04:10 PM

Well the poor darling has her dummy back. We have still been using the comforter for all sleeps so thanx Sharon.

She has bronchiolitis (ok that spelling has to be wrong). We decided to go the hospital this arvo as the cough was pretty crackly. Being viral she wont be on antibiotics which is a good thing. Just have to monitor over the next few days. She really is pretty good in her self so thats great.

Quiet weekend been pretty housebound with two DD's sick.

LMenz

08-07-2007, 04:21 PM

She has bronchiolitis (ok that spelling has to be wrong). We decided to go the hospital this arvo as the cough was pretty crackly. Being viral she wont be on antibiotics which is a good thing. Just have to monitor over the next few days. She really is pretty good in her self so thats great.

:hugs: Marianne....Jack has just got over a bout of bronchiolitis. It's quiet scary really. Hope she's feeling better really soon

LMenz

08-07-2007, 05:23 PM

Well last night we decided to see if Jack could go thru without a feed and guess what? He did!! :yelclap: DH settled him a few times and then I fed him at 6.00am. So that's 12 hours!! WOO HOO! He did a bit of cluster feeding today and we started solids again so hopefully he will do the same tonight. My (.)(.) even survived without the feeding!! I'm still happy to feed if he needs it but a few nights off every once in a while would be great.

The farex went well again so I think we may introduce pumpkin sometime later this week. I'm feeling more confident going to solids now he's officially 5 months....looking forward to the orange spew :laughing:

BTW - I'm loving all the comparison photo's. I can't believe how they have all changed in such a short space of time.

icugal

08-07-2007, 05:47 PM

Jen - Welcome back.. great to you see you again !!

Jo - I just bought my port-a-cot from Target. It folds down quite compact but is very heavy. Not sure if the heaviness is a normal thing or not. Ours also has the bassinette and two level cot height.. though we only have used it the traditional way (too many accessories to carry around otherwise).

Blubber - Hope Elly gets better soon.

Lauren - Yay for the big sleep !! Let's hope it continues !!

Us - I'm working this weekend, so DF has been looking after Kaelan by himself. Poor K has been very unsettled so we think his gums are giving him some grief. Bonjela and Panadol have been his friend over the past 24 hours.

I decided to try K with some more solids today. I'm happy to report that the extrusion reflex appears to be finally gone now and he is opening his mouth nice and wide for the spoon !! However, he spat out the Farex everywhere.. so I'm fairly convinced that he dislikes it intently. As a result of this, I decided to take a very big step (in my little world :) ) and tried him with some pureed potato. The first couple of mouthfuls were priceless !! If only I'd had the video camera... he pulled the biggest yucky face expression ever !! But then he settled down and seemed to really enjoy it... so I'm going to try him again tomorrow.

I also want to report that for months and months, I'd been trying to find some ice-cube trays big enough to freeze food portions for baby feeds... but never had much luck. Then a couple of weeks ago in Big W, I found freezer trays that are actually custom-designed for this very purpose... even coming wih their own fitted lid. They cost me about $16.00 for 3 trays and lids. Absolutely perfect for freezing left-over potato, pumpkin etc for future feeds.

Well, I'm about to have dinner (we're having noodles) and then I'm off to work for the night. Hope everyone has a lovely night :)

LMenz

08-07-2007, 06:31 PM

I found freezer trays that are actually custom-designed for this very purpose... even coming wih their own fitted lid. They cost me about $16.00 for 3 trays and lids. Absolutely perfect for freezing left-over potato, pumpkin etc for future feeds.

Great find Penny..thanks for the tip. I'll be getting some too I think.

RE - Solids...I was reading last night even if your baby dislikes a food you should offer it 10 times so they can get used to the taste :eek: Seems like a long time if they are spitting it out or crying etc..has anyone else heard of this theory??

Jo - Our porta-cot was on special for $129.95 at Baby Bunting...it is also very heavy! It has a bassinette and change table attatched too. We looked at the Phil and Teds one....very light and compact but a bit $$$$ for us. It was almost $300!!!

Nighty Nite all :wave:

SuperFrog

08-07-2007, 07:41 PM

Hmm... I was at Big-W yesterday looking for some solids storage solutions. Ended up buying some small Decor storage containers, pack of six, for future use. Didn't see any ice cube trays, but they sound really good... especially with a lid.

My theory for the moment is that I'll freeze regular size ice cubes of different food and then transfer them to a zip-lock bag. Then when I want some, I can choose from the menu!

Crackly voice through intercom: Can I take your order?
Me: I'll have a cube of pumpkin, a cube of potato, and a cube of broccoli please.
Crackly voice through intercom: Would you like a dessert with that?
Me: Ooh, perhaps a cube of apple thanks.

Maybe I'll write a screenplay?

Solids are very slow to progress here. Weren't making any headway with farex so we tried stewed apples yesterday and today. Bit better, but still not great. At least I was willing to eat the leftovers this time!

Lately Liam has been trying to blow raspberries, which is really cute, so I've been blowing them back at him. Wasn't so cute though when trying to feed him and he blows into the spoon covering me with apple. :rolleyes:

Liam has not been himself since his immunisations on Thursday. More crying for unknown reasons, and much flatter mood. He doesn't have a temperature but he seems to be very clammy, especially the back of his head when he is in his cot. Changed his sheets earlier and they stank of sweatiness. Will be checking him a few times before i go to bed. Do you think this could still be part of an immunisation reaction or something else?

How is story time going for everyone? Liam isn't too interested in looking at the book... he just wants to eat it.

my_lot

08-07-2007, 08:04 PM

hi again.

all kids in bed now i can post!

baby show was great. the kiddy concert was ****. i got there in under 2 hours and didnt get lost! i met the brissy mummas and what a great bunch you guys are!!!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5490.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5490.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5487.jpg

i put eli in a jolly jumper and he enjoyed it. didnt wobbly his head around as much as i thought it would for his age. he didnt 'jump' just kinda swung around. after showing dp the pics he thinks we should buy him one....

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5485.jpg

after the brissy mummas left sharon and i walked around for a bit and got some free stuff and the bubs had a play...i say "oh no eli cant roll yet, just off things hes put on like a pillow..." and he rolls over the minute i put him down! so today he rolled on his own, on flat ground, for the first time!!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5494.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5493.jpg

and we took them in to see the animals...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5491.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5492.jpg

sharon left and i walked around getting some show specials...we ended up going to the car and putting the pram and bags in and then going back into the expo with the Ergo to but up on baby wipes!

heres some of the specials we got

4 jars organic baby food, farex and popper $4 (good deal- we got 3 packs of it)

2x the wiggles wet wipes and a pop up box $5 (and then we left the bag somewhere! we didnt come home with it!)

curash wipes $3 pack- what a great price- they must have thought i was buying for 6 babies!

johnsons baby bath 2 for $5

johnsons kids tangle spray 2 for $5

mother**something** frozen baby food 6 packet of it and esky bag $15

8 issues of a baby mag & show bag $30

2 x pigion bottles $15

toys 2 for $10

and i got cd of kiddy songs done that plays his name through it 40 something times.- $25

so i heard the baby show is off to melb now for their turn this weekend? any melb mummas going??

lauren- still no mail, maybe tomorrow...ill let you know when i get it...and thanks again!!

now ill read through todays posts.

my_lot

08-07-2007, 08:13 PM

what a dork i am..

the plastic is still on the pram!

SuperFrog

08-07-2007, 08:30 PM

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_5492.jpg

"Mum... I've got people to see, places to be. Do you have to take more photos of me with the animals? Can't we just get going??!"

:laughing:

Those are some great photos Kay. Eli looks like a little boy now. Glad to hear you had a great day out with the Brissy gang.

So Melbournites... what do you think about an excursion?

Lukeandmattsmum

08-07-2007, 08:48 PM

Hi Kay

It was lovely meeting up with you today. Eli and your daughter (sorry i forgotten her name) are beautiful. Thanks for the photos they are great. Hope we get to meet again one day.

my_lot

08-07-2007, 09:02 PM

[I]". Eli looks like a little boy now.

OMG did he look like a GIRL before?????? :laughing:

SuperFrog

08-07-2007, 09:05 PM

OMG did he look like a GIRL before?????? :laughing:

:laughing: Nah, I just meant that he looks so grown up now... definitely not a newborn anymore. But you so knew what I meant!

We need a poking the tongue out smiley.

my_lot

08-07-2007, 09:07 PM

thanks kylie..how about a christmas get together?? have to be at the convention centre tho cos i only know how to get there!! :laughing:

mon. thanks i had a great day. these brissy mummas are great. i could have come with my feral 5 yr old and still felt comfy around them! what a great group of down to earth mothers. i wish we lived closer!

also-i posted the pics in the feb meet ups thread.

juzzy

08-07-2007, 09:11 PM

Kay - are you talking about the pregnancy babies and childrens expo? i will be going when its on in Melb, but i dont think its until October sometime.

Not much happening here. Forgot to mention that i gave Cassidy sweet potato last night, the look on her face was totally classic!! Figured it couldnt hurt to experiment a little. Dont think we will be giving her solids all the time just yet as i dont think she needs it at the moment, but once or twice every now and again cant hurt and i suppose there isnt really any hard and fast rules about starting solids.

Trying to bring Cassi's bedtime to 930. Dont know how we will go with that but managed to get her to bed at that time tonight. It will be interesting to see what time she wakes.

What has everyone got planned for the week?

juzzy

08-07-2007, 09:15 PM

Oh and Mon about reactions to the immunisations, id say it took Cassidy a good week to get back to her normal self. She was very flat, upset and overly clingy. She was also a little on the sweaty side as well, i assumed it was to do with the immunisations and it seemed to solve itself.

Hopefully thats the case for liam. :fingerscrossed: hes better soon

my_lot

08-07-2007, 09:15 PM

:laughing: Nah, I just meant that he looks so grown up now... definitely not a newborn anymore. But you so knew what I meant!

.

i did. :yes: it just sounded tool funny. my lil princess cranky pants....

and he does look pretty in his pink sleeping bag. BTW thanks tan its a great fit!

SuperFrog

08-07-2007, 09:26 PM

Everyone else is posting photos so I thought I'd join in.

Here is Liam enjoying his first rusk (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/08%20July%202007/Myfirstrusk1.jpg). He absolutely loved it and made a giant mess!

I have a funny hat with flaps and DH thought it would be funny to put it on Liam. The hat looks very Canadian, but the flaps are tied up in this pic and it looks more Russian. Here (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/08%20July%202007/WearingMumssillyhat.jpg) and here (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/08%20July%202007/Ilovethissillyhat.jpg).

I'll have to put together some age comparison shots at some stage.

juzzy

08-07-2007, 09:41 PM

haha Mon those photos are great!!

Here's (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000608.jpg) Cassidy and her first teething rusk experience.

Same as Liam she ended up covered in it, but loved it just the same!

icugal

09-07-2007, 02:30 AM

Great photos Kay... now where are the pics of the Brissie mums eh?

Mon - Does Liam appear hot when you find him sweating?? Do you have a thermometre to check?

What has everyone got planned for the week?

Monday is my 'get back into day mode" after working night shift all weekend... so I'll sleep for a couple of hours in the morning... then get up and do the motherly thing. On Tuesday K has his 6 month needles, then I have mothers group afterwards. Wednesday morning I'm having an abdominal ultrasound because I'm still getting frequent abdo pains which are stressing me out (Hels, if you are interested in going to the Baby Gallery in the afternoon, pm me). I don't think I have anything planned Thursday to Saturday... how dull !! I was meant to be working next Sunday night... but I'm taking 'Family Leave' as DF has to be at the Eye and Ear Hospital the next morning at 7am for surgery... so unless I get called in for work on Saturday night.. I could possibly have a work-free week... ah, how nice that would be.

Speaking of which, I'm at work now so I'd better get back to it I suppose... it's not an overly smart move leaving an unconscious, intubated patient to fend for themselves while their nurse surfs the net *LOL*

my_lot

09-07-2007, 07:25 AM

penny- the mum pics are in the meet ups thread i wasnt sure if they had all been posted before so i thought id better check first, but i was in here.

juzzy

09-07-2007, 07:42 AM

well my 9.30 bedtime went very well for Cassidy last night, she slept until 8am this morning so it looks like the 930 bedtime could be here to stay. But i guess we will see how tonight goes.

Suppose i should answer my own question! What have i got planned for the week? Not alot really. Its nice and sunny at the moment and i was going to go for a walk but DP has since left for work and told me that i need to stay home as he's expecting deliveries today :rolleyes:. Other than that.... umm nothing :o :laughing:

Hels i managed to go past the baby gallery on the weekend. I am yet to actually go in.... im sure i will get there one day

LMenz

09-07-2007, 07:58 AM

I have some BIG news.......

Jack slept 6.45pm - 6.45am :smiliedance: :smiliedance: No feeding or settling...we didn't hear a peep out of him.

I got a whole 6 hours in a row - the most sleep I've had in 2 months!!!

Do ya reckon it's the solids???? :yes: :yes:

LMenz

09-07-2007, 09:45 AM

Mon - Great pics of Liam...he sure does like that rusk! How's he feeling today?

Kay - Love the photo's.....Eli is sooo tall! Looks like a great day was had by all.

I noticed Nina was in the pic....where has she been lately? I don't think she has posted for ages

My plans for the rest of the week...Tomorrow we are going to PIL's for the night. Then Thursday we are heading down to Port Fairy. We should be home late Saturday I think. Really looking forward to that..be great to get away with DH and spend some time as a family.

Other news...Jack started sitting up on his own yesterday. Still not much rolling happening but he's pretty happy with himself to be sitting

Better go I can hear him stiring.....

Hels*Bels

09-07-2007, 10:03 AM

Hi girls :wave:

Penny - I'd love to meet up at the Baby Gallery but not on wednesday arvo as that's my MG and I really should make an appearance this week. How about thursday arvo instead? Juz and Jo (and anyone else) you are welcome to come along too.

Juz and Mon - The rusk photos look great, I have a packet in the cupboard so I might have to try R with one. I was thinking about starting solids real soon too. Reece stares at us now when we eat, it seems to be his first real interest in food.

Mon - This is the tongue poking smiley - - -> :p
Lauren - Great sleep :smiliedance: let's hope you get many more like that.

Reece has started sleeping in until about 8.30-9am which is about 10-11 hours straight, so I'm happy with that.

Plans for the week... Today I am chillin at home, I have a service technician coming to the house tomorrow arvo, weds is MG, thurs could be the Baby Gallery and I have to have a cyst removed from my neck in the evening (yuck). So friday I will rest after the surgery.
I also have bookwork to do and some marketing for my new business venture.

I reckon that lot will keep me busy lol

icugal

09-07-2007, 11:31 AM

*half asleep*

Hels - Thursday should be fine I think. I've looked through my diary and my calender and on the wall and I can't see any other committments.

Let's do it !!

my_lot

09-07-2007, 01:13 PM

whats baby gallery?

icugal

09-07-2007, 02:23 PM

The Baby Gallery is a shop.. and supposedly a very good one :)

JoJoMart

09-07-2007, 02:53 PM

Hels - I will definitely consider coming to the Baby Gallery on Thursday avo.

Lauren - that's fantastic news that Jack slept through the night and for that long! Liam hasn't slept that long before! I hope it keeps up and it sounds like the solids may be helping?

Mon - love the photos of Liam eating his rusk. How cute does he look! He looks like an experienced eater.....even though you said food went everywhere :)

What's on for this week - well I've got MG on Wednesday avo....but otherwise nothing much planned other than maybe the Baby Gallery on Thursday. I've been meaning to enrol back in my art class so I hope to do that soon.....not that I have much time for painting at the moment!

Solids - it sounds like most of your are making some good progress with introducing solids. I'm waiting until Liam's 5 1/2 months and will see what happens. He's been watching me eat and looks interested a bit......but hasn't tried to grab the food from me or anything!

SuperFrog

09-07-2007, 03:20 PM

Just got back from Liam's paediatrician and everything is 100% with his collar bone, which is great news.

Not-so-great news though is that Liam's weight gain has significantly dropped off since his 4 month MCHN check. Obviously my milk supply sucks, which I am a bit depressed about but I'll get over it. So I'm going to make a conscientious effort to drink at least 2L of water a day (which I drink close to that already I think), and we shall be full-steam ahead with solids. Liam has had stewed apples with his lunch feed today, and we'll try some farex again tonight. Hopefully he'll start stacking it on again over the next few weeks.

Ooh, and this is a great excuse to make the lactation boosting cookies again... they were yummo!

Hels - I didn't realise this smiley was poking its tongue out -------> :p For some reason I thought it was a puppy dog... without the ears. Don't ask, I have no idea why I thought that.

Lauren - Congrats on Jack's big sleep! Great news... although for a second there I thought you were about to tell us that you are pregnant. :laughing:

ziggy29

09-07-2007, 04:53 PM

Hello all.

Lily and i had a great time at the baby expo. can someone point me to the meet page please? i ll add more pictures if i have something different to add. eli and lily had a play - love that photo of them holding hands. it was great to meet you
Kay - you were even nicer than i thought you would be. ryan will be jealous of eli stealing his girlfriend.

who ever it was who asked about nina - she is well and has returned to work 2 days a week. they have bought a home and sold there unit and are moving in 2-3 weeks. still preparing for the wedding in september. ryan is thriving and looks a lot like coen.

Juzzy - good work on the sleep.
how is that rash going? lily has started to develop something similar and it is easy for me to jump to blaming solids BUT it could be the wind and cold too? no point going to the dr yet as it is only a small area and it isnt bothering lily get. i think i will try lots of moisturier and if that doesnt do i ill try 1% steroid cream.

i will not give her potoato for another few weeks as it was after i intoduced potato that it started. dont want to stop solids completely as she cant get enough of them.

I am feel pretty cr@ppo today as i finally given in and have started taking meds for the PND. things just havent been gettting any easier over the past 3 weeks. i will continue with the councilling too. the meds are giving me nausea and dizziness. other people who are taking them - how long did this last? how long after taking them did you start to feel an improvement?

Good on jack lauren. i too thought you may have been :bfp:. i think it could be the solids - jack has always loved his food.

Mon - did i hear you putting down your milk supply? how do you know that it is your supply? did you see an empty sign on the feul gage? how much does liam weight and how much weight does the paed say they should put on in a month now?

SuperFrog

09-07-2007, 06:33 PM

Hang in there Sharon. Great to hear that you are getting counselling in conjunction with medication. Very important I think.

Mon - did i hear you putting down your milk supply? how do you know that it is your supply? did you see an empty sign on the feul gage? how much does liam weight and how much weight does the paed say they should put on in a month now?

At 4 months Liam was 6.0 kg, and now at 5 1/2 months he is only 6.3 kg. So he has only put on 300 grams in 6 weeks. :gloomy: I think at this age they are supposed to put on 500 - 1000 grams a month.

Paed also said that he is going a long time between poos and isn't vomiting up much, so if nothing is coming out and he isn't putting on weight, then there probably isn't enough going in.

Hopefully solids will change all this.

Made some of those cookies and they are yum! The recipe makes way too many so rather than halving the ingredients I decided to freeze the cookie dough for easy baking next time.

Hels*Bels

09-07-2007, 06:44 PM

Talking of cookies, I bought some today from Safeway with bits of Mars bar in them. They are so yummy and nice and chewy too. I bought them for MG on weds but somehow I don't think they will last that long lol

Penny - Can you please PM me, Jo and Juz with the time that you want to meet up on thurs? as it's not advisable to discuss details in here, thanks.

Sharon - I am on Eflexor 37.5mg (or something like that) for PND. I had no side effects and it took about 2 weeks to work. Which ones are you taking?

Us - We ended up at the shopping centre today. I have been looking at buying an overlocker for another business venture that I have in mind. Didn't realise they were so expensive, so eBay here I come! :laughing: Still in 2 minds about it though. Got a few things in the sales too. I also got some of those ice cube trays with lids for freezing pureed baby foods. I got them from Big W, they are with all the baby bottles and eating utensiles etc.

Gotta go, DH wants the computer for work tonight and R needs to have a little nap :sleeping:

LMenz

09-07-2007, 07:09 PM

Good Evening

After I read my post I did wonder if you guys would think I'm pregnant....like hell!!!! :laughing: No more bubs for me for a while yet. Jack's enough to keep me out of trouble for ages.

Mon - :hugs: hugs to you...Are you feeling ok about your milk supply? Maybe some fenugreek tablets would help? I know the ABA website has heaps of info on increasing your supply. Sounds like Liam is slowly taking to the solids.... I'm gonna start some vegies on the weekend. I picked up the freezer things at Big W too. A pack of three with lids - they are 'Happy Baby' brand.

Sharon - Have a few of these :hugs: Hope your week improves and your feeling better soon. Thanks for the update on Nina too.

US - I went to Mother's Group today without Jack which was heaven (DH looked after him) When I got home Jack was bouncing away in his jolly jumper - so cute! He gave me a huge smile which was great. Nice to know I was missed. He had two sleeps today which were longer than normal too. I really hope I haven't jinxed myself with the sleeping....I'm anxious to see how he will go tonight. Keep your fingers crossed for me.

DH has also been reading some of my posts :eek: He came in today and asked what DH stands for...when I said Dear Husband he didn't believe me and thought it stood for "dumb husband" LOL.....I better watch what I say. I figured it was only a matter of time before he looked, seeing I talk about you guys and the thread so much..oops!

LMenz

09-07-2007, 07:37 PM

Sharon - Here's the link to the "Due in Feb 07" thread where all the pics are..:)

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=79909&page=4

SuperFrog

09-07-2007, 07:54 PM

Gave Liam some pureed apples at lunchtime, and it went quite well. Figured I really need to get him onto the rice cereal to beef him up so I mixed some apple with the farex.

It was hilarious feeding it to him. After he warmed to the idea he seemed to really enjoy it. He doesn't open his mouth if he can't see the spoon, but when he does see it he opens his mouth and launches his whole head forward in one quick movement! Will have to be careful that the spoon doesn't go in his mouth too far.

Have been sitting him in his rocker to feed him, or having someone else hold him. Definitely need to get a high chair a.s.a.p.

Lauren - I'm trying not to stress out or depress myself too much about the milk supply issue. Will look into the fenugreek tablets, thanks. I just hope that my supply doesn't get worse now that L is on solids. Have decided to try and express before I go to bed each night... hopefully that will trick the boobies to make some more. :yes:

Hels - I've just borrowed an overlocker off one of my Mum's friends. Bought some threads for it today and hope to try it out soon. Will let you know how it goes. What are you thinking of making? huh? huh!

my_lot

09-07-2007, 07:54 PM

thanks lauren!! got mail. so stupid of me to check the PO box everyday wondering where on earth it was and i didnt even think to check that brick thing out the front! i forgot i gave you the home address!

the tops are great. thanks so much.

i aslo thought you were going to say you were pregnant!

talking about that....

ive been throwing that topic around a fair bit here with dp. why oh why cant i just accept there will be no more? im hoping against all hope IT hasnt worked-yet. im now begging him to "store" it for a few days before O.

i think he got the puppy hoping id baby that and leave his bits be :laughing:

he said he will get it reversed, just not now.

my_lot

09-07-2007, 08:03 PM

mon-

im not sure if its normal for their weight to slow up with solids but ive noticed eli has since i started the solids.

sorry i dont meant to dash your hope of solids fixing it.

eli had his 4 month needles today and the nurse was looking at his weight gains with me...hes had very poor weight gains since then. looking back on the other kids blue books when i got home i noticed they did too..

weve put the porta cot up in our room for eli tonight. so far not so good. the site of the needles are not too bad, a little red and sore on one leg. but the crying!!! and waking!!

heres hoping for a good night.

LMenz

09-07-2007, 08:17 PM

Kay...glad it arrived safetly. Great news about the snip snip reversal!! You must be rapt :)

Jack was a horror the night he had his needles....woke every 2-3 hours. Much worse this time than his first lot

harleyq

09-07-2007, 08:35 PM

Love the photos everyone - will do mine soon enough.

Sandy - great news that Coen now sleeps a lot longer and is easier to settle.....that book sounds great! When it says to leave them for 15 minutes as they might self settle does that mean you can't go in to them at all? I do go in to Liam and it usually helps re-settle but is this counter productive?

if you going to him helps him resettle than so be it - at least he is getting back to sleep -when l go in to Coen he gets excited and starts dancing in his cot, lots of this action :smiliedance: and there is no chance of him falling back to sleep.
I think (according to this author at least) though that if they can resettle without you that would be the ultimate....

I have some BIG news......Jack slept 6.45pm - 6.45am No feeding or settling...we didn't hear a peep out of him
My breath caught in my throat when l read this... l too thought you were going to tell us you were pregnant!!! But yeah for Jack - you must be feeling great!

:hugs: Sharon - if you need to take the medication then it is great that you are combining it with the counseling - no use banging your head on a brick wall with the counseling if you the medication also... oh and l took some anti-depressants once for a few month a number of years ago - l got nausea and dizziness and loss of appetite - it last about 2-3 weeks l think (not sure if its the same, but l would say it would be similar???)

We went to see Michelle (my cousin) and her baby today (Olivia - almost 3 months) - Coen was a lot more aware of her today than he ever has been before - we had them in the cot together and he was patting her head... l should have taken a photo.

Tomorrow l have mothers group (our first unofficial get together) tomorrow, plus my BIL b'day in the evening, l will catch up with my SIL and Mum Wed & Thursday (seperately); and my cousin, Tanya on Friday - so l have gone from having absolutely nothing organised to a full week in the space of a day!

Lauren - l have been trying the Infacol for the last week with Coen - l think it is making his wind worse... were going to go back to Infants friend for a few days to see if its a coincidence - but he has woken up a few times during his big sleep screaming - he has never done that before... not since he was about 5 weeks old and even then it was never this bad... it seems to have started when we started on the Infacol... does anybody else use Infacol?

Did l mention that we bought a High Chair the other day on e-bay? We picked it up on Sunday - its very exciting! Still holding off on the solids for now... Coen is sooooo distracted when he eats at the moment - l couldn't even imagine how we would go with solids!!!

Good luck Kay with Eli -- Like a number of the other mums, Coen wasn't himself for a number of days after his injections ... horrible horrible things!

juzzy

09-07-2007, 08:57 PM

well well well, heres hoping that the 930 bedtime is here to stay. She went down so easily tonight that i am hoping i really am on to a good thing. She also had a 2 hour sleep from 1030 - 1230 and then from 330-730. Think i would be pushing it if i tried to make her bedtime 9 or even 830? Maybe if i made her afternoon nap earlier?

Sharon big :hugs: for you. When i started taking meds for PND i was getting bad headaches and nausea for the first few days. Having said that though, it has only been two weeks since i started. I am starting to feel a bit better about things but it is still a bit up and down. My Doctor said that it might take a month to notice any difference in mood/behavior. I am going back to see him next week so we will see what he says.
As for Cassidys rash, it is eczema and it has spread a bit to her stomach but using the QV bath oil has cleared it up a bit on her legs. As well as moisturizing after her bath is helping. If i dont see a real improvment in the next week or two i will take her to the doctor to get it looked at. The chemist said that using plain water for her bath could be adding to the problem so perhaps try a similar bath oil to what im using for Cassidy?

Mon Fenugreek is a good way to try and boost your milk supply. I found that the tablets can be hard to find however, but i found them at the Chemist Warehouse. Those cookies are fantastic as well!

Kay great news about ur DH and him being willing to get the reversal. You must be pretty happy with that! As for side effects after the needles, Cassidy slept heaps but also developed a fever and when she was wake she was irritable and very upset. Heres hoping that Eli is ok.

Anyway im going to bed, i am totally buggered and have no idea why.

LMenz

10-07-2007, 06:44 AM

l have been trying the Infacol for the last week with Coen - l think it is making his wind worse

Hmmm...it never worked for us hence why I gave it to you I guess. From memory Ren uses it an I think it works for her

well well well, heres hoping that the 930 bedtime is here to stay. She went down so easily tonight that i am hoping i really am on to a good thing.The chemist said that using plain water for her bath could be adding to the problem so perhaps try a similar bath oil to what im using for Cassidy?

YAY! Juz, that's great about the earlier time. I put Hamilton Oil in Jack's bath...it's really improved his skin. He has very dry patches but they're not red or inflamed..mostly on his legs. I too was worried it's the start of eczema. At least it's not causing Cassi too much discomfort

US - Jack woke once in the night...he had wind also :thumbsdown: Very strange too as he hasn't woken in the middle of the night with it for months but much much better than his usual 2-3 times waking of late. Were leaving for PIL's soon but wanted to feed my addiction with one more post before we go :laughing:

Catch you all when I return home :wave:

icugal

10-07-2007, 06:56 AM

Sandy - Infacol never did anything for us either. A waste of money IMHO.

Lauren - Enjoy your time at the in-laws place !!

I'm having a slight stress-session at the moment. Kaelan developed flu-like symptoms the other night... which is fine because he isn't particularly unwell. HOWEVER, it seems to have coincided with him having started the potato... so now I'm worried that he is allergic to potato. He's still asleep at the moment... but I'll be curious to see whether he wakes up sick or not.

Unfortunately I won't be able to assess him accurately today anyway because he is going to be having his six month needles today (assuming that they don't turn him away of course)... so if he does get sicker tonight, it will be difficult to tell if it is related to a cold, his food or his needles... though I might withold his solids today to see what happens.

My concern is that IF he is allergic to potato... what else will be be allergic to??

:fingerscrossed: that it is just a cold !!

my_lot

10-07-2007, 07:37 AM

penny- do you know what to look for with food reactions?

is flu one?

ive never looked into it, ive always had vomit, gastro like nappies, rash (face &/or belly first) and hives so thats what i look for in eli.

i was asked by the nurse and the DR yesterday if eli was well, any temps, runny nose ect before they did the needles..so yeah maybe they wont do them.

he had an ok night, his little legs are red and sore. we ended up sleeping on the futon. he b/fed twice in the night but went back to sleep quickly then woke at 5:30am screaming! i fed him then woke dp and told him it was his turn. hes having panadol every 4 hours and cooly packs on his legs...and hes asleep now but i have to wake him dd is ice skating today and got to off load one at pre-school first.

icugal

10-07-2007, 07:51 AM

Kay - I was reading in my "What to Expect in the First Year" book that common allergic reactions to food can include runny nose, watery eyes, rash etc... pretty much all symptoms that could be covered by the common cold (plus obviously there's the more serious anaphylactic type reactions as well). The only thing that made me consider an allergy is the fact that all these symptoms initially ocurred within an hour or two of him having pureed potato for the first time.

Of course, it's more likely that that he just happened to develop a cold at this time... which is pretty pi$$-poor timing in my opinion :D

He still has a runny nose and is sneezing and coughing this morning... so I'll take that as a good sign that he does have a cold. Only time will tell I guess.

Roopee

10-07-2007, 01:39 PM

Juz- how did your night go?? Did the 9.30 work all night foryou????

Superfrog- sounds like the solids were a hit in your house? I know now that when im eating Cody sticks her tongue out and "bites" down...she would eat sh!t on a stickif i offered it i think.:yes:

I took the girls out for coffee and cake this morning and gave Cody some icing and some cream off my cake and should have seen her face!!!! LOVED it and the kept "yelling" at me for more lol. Had the whole coffee shop in stitches!!

wind issues- Infacol never worked here either...i always used infants friend which always worked well for us!!

Kay- re more bubbas! Ok its time for me to admit something to myself! I think ..i too... was a little hasty in sending DH for the snip. I would like to have 2 more bubbas and well...now its impossible. DH would never ever agree..he has told me so.... and that makes me really sad!! I know myy baby days are over and in one mind im ok with it and with the other side of it...im just not at all ok with it. I dont know whether its because i want what i cant have or not but i just feel like i have cut short the best days of my life. I'm pretty sure you know what i mean.
I have days here when i wonder if im nuts for even having the 4 i do and then other days i think..how easy they are and well behaved and how great it is to be a mum and i could easily fit two more in.
It saddens me no end to know that i will never, ever hold another newborn of mine in my arms...i will never ever be pregnant and i will never ever experience labour again.
My Dh would NEVER get his vasectomy reversed..nor would agree to try to use the "window" we have left...no matter how small the chances are. So its a no go for me...i hope you get what you want Kay...i really do.

Lmenz- yay for Jacks sleeping..the other night!! You must have felt like a new woman.

my_lot

10-07-2007, 02:40 PM

hi everyone-

penny. how did K go with the shots? yes sounds like potato...what will you do now? try again or leave it be. my ds had a reaction to a whole peanut he was given at a party. his eyes red and watery and then puffy were the first signs that hed eaten something that didnt agree. his lips went a funny colour and also puffy and the rash was the last to show. yet my dd will get the rash on her face then it travels down then she gets hives and that starts mostly on her face.

eli has had no reactions at all to any foods, not that his diet is much more than custards and cardboards! i feel very blessed right now.

tan- he has said yes to the reversal but hes not going to get it anytime soon. hes not worried about the $6000, hes not worried about the pain hes worried about me not coping with another...and theres no way i can say i will after what weve been through with eli- ive lost it with him (dp) one too many times- its been a long hard few months. and on the other hand im sure i dont want another big gap...weve been talking about it a lot. our reasons for getting the snip, plans for work ect.

i think i need to remind myself how lucky i am. i had the "one last one" i didnt think i would have, i had the birth i didnt think id ever be able to have again- thanks to that c-sect, and so far i have the healthiest baby ive ever had. i have no need to go back to work with this baby, i am able to have this child to myslelf for the next 5 years, no siblings at home- just us and i know i will enjoy that.. (that may do my head in and ill work a few hours here and there LOL)

i really didnt think that the snip would make me feel these range of thoughts after the fact.. maybe it shouldnt be that easy to get something so premanent done. dp rang up on the wednesday, paid the deposit over the phone and we showed up the next wednesday and it was all done. maybe we should have not been talking about getting it done when i was pregnant-when i was so scared of the VBAC that i couldnt fathom having more.

anyWayyy all done now. the reversal being done now is out of the question and i can say how ill feel about it in 4-5 years. time will tell.

see you all in live chat

SuperFrog

10-07-2007, 03:28 PM

The cable guy has been at our house today, and I'm going to be losing my internet connection for a few hours soon.

Noooooooooooooooooo!

Hopefully I'll be back up and running for the chat tonight.

Liam has grumbled a lot today. Hope it isn't the solids. Poor kid... he's probably been starving hungry the past few weeks. We've got our 6 month check up next Friday, so it will be interesting to see what his weight is. I'm holding on to the hope that the paediatrician's scales are calibrated differently to the MCHN's scales... although really that is just wishful thinking.

I've had a stay-at-home day today and have done heaps of washing. I'm surrounded at the moment by piles of clean washing. Better than dirty ones!

icugal

10-07-2007, 04:46 PM

Kay - Kaelans needles went well this morning... you wouldn't even known he'd had any really. He cried for about 5 seconds with each needle but he's been pretty happy since.

He's still snuffly and whatnot... which makes me lean towards a cold and now I feel as though I'm about to come down with it too... so it is reassuring.

Anyways, I'll probably let him get over his 'cold' and then I'll try the potato again. I guess if he gets sick again, then we'll know that it was a reaction.

blubber

10-07-2007, 05:00 PM

Kay & Tanya: it''s interesting to hear your thoughts on more kids. I found it hard after DD1 to think of a second so soon after a bad pregnancy, (sickness all day and all night all 40 weeks)...and once pregnant again with Elly and experiencing a too pleasant 40 weeks again i defenitly thought no more.

However, my point is already i am having strong feelings about #3 happening. DH would love another, but doesn't like the thought of seeing me go through a hell pregnancy again (history tells me it wont change).
From what you say it seems the more you have the more you want?

Anyhow, on my own tonight, well DD's here just not DH. SO things to be done now but hope to ge to chat tonight.

Roopee

10-07-2007, 05:03 PM

Yep- i had the same all day sickness for 40 weeks but how soon we forget hey??? I dont know if mines a case of "the grass is always greener" or not....i just get sad to think that i will have no more if that makes sense!!:yes:

my_lot

10-07-2007, 05:21 PM

blubber- you might get a boy and have no MS at all...

ah i cant talk..ive been sick with all mine, boys and girls.

no.2 was so bad i lost 12kg in 3 months and was in hospi 3 times on a drip.

blubber

10-07-2007, 05:42 PM

Oh you girls are so reasuring!!

I too had the drip and weight loss factor with both girls.

Why do we do it to ourselves. We do forget...well it is stored in some obscure part of our brain.

I do say though that labour was not so bad second time around, i sort of new how to get myself through it and a little more comfortable. BUT i will never say i enjoyed it!!

Hels*Bels

10-07-2007, 06:18 PM

SuperFrog

10-07-2007, 06:42 PM

I'm excited as my business stock arrived today :smiliedance: so now I can get everything up and running. I have been a busy little bee setting it all up, hence my lack of posting lol.

Everything is running smoothly here with R so I can't complain. I'm not looking forward to starting solids, I wish they could drink milk forever, it's so much easier!

Penny - could you PM me about thursday please? (not sure if you saw my last post about that?) I hope Kaelan is better soon, or we can postpone the baby gallery to another time if you'd prefer?

Sandy - I was half expecting you to drop in on sunday, did you end up going to Juzzy's? Which brand of highchair did you buy and does Coen like it yet?

Us - I have MG tomorrow and I really don't want to go anymore. I feel very uncomfortable about it as the girls keep ringing me to check everything is ok with R and letting me know who is hosting etc. I now feel obligated to go :banghead: . How do you tell people that you don't want to be in their group anymore? Any advise anyone?

Well, I'd better go and get something to eat whilst R is having a nap. Might be in chat later too.

Hels - I'm finding that starting solids is very rewarding. After the first few days Liam now knows what it's all about and will open his mouth for the spoon. He gives me great big grins so I know he is enjoying it. Yes, it's messy, but most fun things are... right?!

Our MG organise meetings via email. A few people have dropped out via email messages, but that's easier than face to face. Maybe you could say that you are starting a new business which is keeping you very busy, and suggest staying in contact via email and you'll make it to a meeting every now and then if possible. Just an idea, but it might just be delaying the inevitable if you want to make a clean break.

Will be in for the chat later on. Just grabbing some dinner.

my_lot

10-07-2007, 06:56 PM

I do say though that labour was not so bad second time around, i sort of new how to get myself through it and a little more comfortable. !

ohhh i loved my 2nd v/birth- it was so quick she shot out- 18 minutes from waters breaking to birth and i was only in hospi cos i thought it was another false alarm! that birth was like an long orgasm..
*i bet there will be a few shocked faces reading this*

eli, my 3rd V/birth, was fantastic. a lot more pain than the first because he was face up, but still a really great birth.. i felt so in control and knew where and when to push and could feel him coming down and knew how close i was. his birth was my special one because it was a vbac.

i think the pregnancy of each will always hold a bitter memory for me, the births (except the c-sect recovery) were fantastic.

youll be fine with no. 3...by four youll be old hand at it.

if i didnt have that blasted c-sect id have probably had a homebirth.

harleyq

10-07-2007, 07:03 PM

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Sandy - I was half expecting you to drop in on sunday, did you end up going to Juzzy's? Which brand of highchair did you buy and does Coen like it yet?

Us - I have MG tomorrow and I really don't want to go anymore. I feel very uncomfortable about it as the girls keep ringing me to check everything is ok with R and letting me know who is hosting etc. I now feel obligated to go :banghead: . How do you tell people that you don't want to be in their group anymore? Any advise anyone?

Well, I'd better go and get something to eat whilst R is having a nap. Might be in chat later too.

Sorry we didn't Hels - l posted the message hoping to get in touch with one or the other of you - but l obviously missed you... pity - it would have been lovely!!!

As for Mothers Group - the new business venture is a good option...

Infacol sucks!!! Thanks Lauren for giving it to me so l could try it - but l think if anything it made Coen worse... back to Infants friend for me...

my baby is screaming with DH - better go - hope to make it to chat in a little while... we'll see how we go!!

blubber

10-07-2007, 07:29 PM

ohhh i loved my 2nd v/birth- it was so quick she shot out- 18 minutes from waters breaking to birth and i was only in hospi cos i thought it was another false alarm! that birth was like an long orgasm..
*i bet there will be a few shocked faces reading this*

eli, my 3rd V/birth, . i felt so in control and knew where and when to push and could feel him coming down and knew how close i was. his birth was my special one because it was a vbac.

youll be fine with no. 3...by four youll be old hand at it.

I'll have what she is having thanx!!!

I sort of new what to expect and had 3 hour 45 labour but i still said to DH at the end, you mean it's over already, three pushes and "spat" she was here! That is the main thing in my memory.."the splitting" or what felt like it anyway..sorry maybe TMI.

...by four...oh hold on...

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Infacol sucks!!! Thanks Lauren for giving it to me so l could try it - but l think if anything it made Coen worse... back to Infants friend for me...

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We found with MIa that wind drops/infacol just ended up confusing her. With Elly we have used nothing.

Hels: have fun organisng all the work stuff.
As for MG..we are all so diffrent about what we get out of it. If you wanna break from it permantly just tell then things are too busy at the moment. With Mia we had a group of 7 and i probably got along with three of them. Your never going to get along with everyone. Unfortunetly we moved and i missed the contact but i do still speak to two of them anyway. So i guess it's just how you feel with the girls you have been linked to. I was NEVER going to be a "mums group" kind of girl and in the end i enjoyed it.

ziggy29

11-07-2007, 07:11 AM

I'm having a slight stress-session at the moment. Kaelan developed flu-like symptoms the other night... which is fine because he isn't particularly unwell. HOWEVER, it seems to have coincided with him having started the potato... so now I'm worried that he is allergic to potato. He's still asleep at the moment... but I'll be curious to see whether he wakes up sick or not.

Unfortunately I won't be able to assess him accurately today anyway because he is going to be having his six month needles today (assuming that they don't turn him away of course)... so if he does get sicker tonight, it will be difficult to tell if it is related to a cold, his food or his needles... though I might withold his solids today to see what happens.

My concern is that IF he is allergic to potato... what else will be be allergic to??

:fingerscrossed: that it is just a cold !!

A girl at mothers group said that potato allergy can be a problem as it is part of the nightjar family? does anyone know what this is or what this means (check your baby bibles).

Sandy : re:invacol - we use it occassionally when lily is having a vomitting day as it reminds her how to burp properly. other than that i dont think it helps to settle her at all.

DH took the car today so we are stuck at home. i feel a bit too woosey to drive atm anyway so im going back to bed.

harleyq

11-07-2007, 09:07 AM

A girl at mothers group said that potato allergy can be a problem as it is part of the nightjar family? does anyone know what this is or what this means (check your baby bibles).
Potatoes are potatoes are part of the nightshade family - l know that cos they are known to cause inflamation and after l had my car accident l was told to avoid them, it includes anything that grows at night, potatoes, eggplant, tomatoes and capsicums....(sp?)

I hope Kaelan isn't allergic - l love potatoes!!! Actually all these nightshade vegetables are amongst my favourites - hence why l didn't do too well avoiding them.

I was sorry to miss chat last night - but we had BiL birthday dinner... Oh and DH got a High Disctinction on his exam -- so :smiliedance: we get our money back for the course!!! I am really proud of him - he hates exams! Maybe l will get to spend a little on myself??? Oh wouldn't that be nice???

icugal

11-07-2007, 10:43 AM

Thanks for your advice girls...

I'm going to assume that it is a cold because I've now got it and I feel like total cr@p. I didn't make it into chat last night either because I went to bed at about 8:30pm because I was feeling so lousy (DF was home lastnight luckily).

Kaelan had a pretty bad night too... he screamed continuously for hours on end... and even woke up overnight which is unusual for him. If he feels like I feel right now, then I can't really blame him.. poor little mite !!

On a positive note, I went and had an abdominal ultrasound this morning (because of chronic abdo pains I've had recently)... and everything looks ok (including my liver)... so I'm relieved about that. It makes me wonder where I'm getting this pain from though (surely it's not all in my head). I've also been getting quite severe back pain lately (I have back problems anyway)... I can only assume that maybe all the abdo discomfort is just referred pain from that. I dunno.. maybe I'm just crazy !!

Anyways, gonna go.. my head is pounding and the light from the laptop screen is hurting my eyes. Having the flu sucks !!

Hels.. we may have to postpone the Baby Gallery thing :(

juzzy

11-07-2007, 11:55 AM

went to chadstone yesterday as DP decided to have a day off.

It was time to feed Cassidy so i headed into the parents room and sat down in one of the booth things. There was another woman in there, in the other booth, her husband, her baby and her other kid were with her. Didnt think anything of it and closed the curtain the best i could to cover the doorway (those ones dont cover the whole doorway and left a little bit open next to the wall, from where i was sitting i could see the mirror on the wall outside the booth and the edge of the door leading out of the parents room). I started to breastfeed Cassidy and then about 10 minutes into the feed i noticed that the ladys husband was watching me. Like he wasnt just glancing it me, he had strategically placed himself so he could WATCH me breatfeed Cassidy. How frigging creepy. So i put Cassidy in the pram. Got up. Turned the chair around so my back was facing him and finished the feed. Then got out of there as quick as i could. I didnt know what else to do. What a freak. That has put me off breastfeeding in public for life... and it wasnt even in public really, it was a damn parents room!!

Anyway, rant over. Continue as you were. :laughing:

LMenz

11-07-2007, 12:16 PM

DH got a High Disctinction on his exam -- so we get our money back for the course!!!

Great News Sandy...Well Done to Darren!

Having the flu sucks!!!

Hope you are both feeling better soon......it does suck being sick yourself and then having to deal with a sick baby :hugs:

Like he wasnt just glancing it me, he had strategically placed himself so he could WATCH me breatfeed Cassidy. How frigging creepy.

:eek: What a sicko!! You poor thing.....I think that's my worst nightmare

US - Were back home..just for tonight then off again in the morning. PIL were ok apart from their total disregard for my parenting skills :rolleyes: When I say Jack's tired he needs a sleep they say no he's not he wan't to spend time with us....DH was great this morning and backed me up - about time!! Jack slept well in the porta - cot. Woke with wind but no feeding necessary. I slept ****house! Jack was in our room and I just couldn't relax listening to him grunt and fart the night away!

RE : Wind....I'm thinking it could be chocolate that gives it to him?? Not sure? Better lay off and see if it helps (I'll just finish the block in the fridge hehehe)

Better go and wash everything so I can re-pack :)

Roopee

11-07-2007, 12:19 PM

juzzy- :barf: thats disgusting! What a creep!

kay- forgot to mention today too that i sent Eli a little something yesterday so you should recieve that soon. Also i got my Starbunz yesterday and OMG....you have to get one!!! Its soooooo cute- even DH thought it was "pretty cute actually". Its a must have for a show off one and i just cant wait till summer!!

births- i really "enjoyed my last birth. Well as much as you can i guess- 24 mins was all it took for her to arrive and the recovery was pretty much instant. I do think its possible to enjoy a birth...(dont know about orgasm though Kay?? what were you on lol).....however while it was fast it was very brutal. I have never needed any stitches or pain relief either ssoi guess im one of the lucky ones!!
more kids- i definatley think its a case of the more you have the more you want. My feeling fluctuate between...oh just 2 more...and ..no way in hell. lol.

Harley- congrats to your DH!! Thats a great result!

blubber

11-07-2007, 03:02 PM

Well what a day and night...
Elly has bronchiolitis and we were at the doctors Sunday and Monday and she hadn't got any worse. So they said see how she goes.
The poor darling was up from 11.00pm -4 this morning coughing.So back to the doctors today and it goes like this!!

Appt. @ 12.30 see doctor at 1.45.
She listen to her chest and says, "oh yes it has developed" reached for her books!! mumbles something about no info for 4 months and under then says,
"in a real world any baby this young would be put in hospital on a nebulizer for the night"

and then the conversation goes like this;

M) "what do you mean in a real world"
D) " not the hospital in this town"
M) "why, do they not have the equipment/staff"
D) "too busy"
M) "what if you are private patient?"
D) you have private cover?
M) yes
D) i will see if i can get onto the pead.

soo.. he doesn't answer his phone and we are sent home to wait for a call to tell us when we can take Elly in for the night or two!!

Bags are packed, DH is 5 hours away working and should be back by 8.30tonight..

Hope everyone else is having a good day.

harleyq

11-07-2007, 03:15 PM

Like he wasnt just glancing it me, he had strategically placed himself so he could WATCH me breatfeed Cassidy.

That is horribly Juzzy - that is my worst nightmare as well - in fact l won't go alone into those rooms - the one time l did (DH was going to meet me in there once he did something) l felt really really vulnerable, then a few days later their was that bit on the news about some woman getting accosted in a baby change room - so l won't do it now - l think l would rather go into a coffee shop, sit myself in the corner and breastfeed in public then put myself in that situation again!!! I am so sorry you had to go through that - please do be careful - you just never know what these sickos may do!!! It actually makes me really really angry - how dare some one make you feel so uncomfortable when you are just trying to feed your baby!!!

RE : Wind....I'm thinking it could be chocolate that gives it to him?? Not sure? Better lay off and see if it helps (I'll just finish the block in the fridge hehehe)
Welcome to my world - Coen still sleeps in our room and probably will until he is 6 months - most times l can sleep through it -but honestly when he rips out a really loud one i can't help but think how did that come from my little munchkin!!! Oh please don't tell me its chocolate - God wouldn't be that cruel would he? Which reminds me l need to go pick up some infants friend - my little munchkin is stirring so might go now -- Some good news - we have had two sleeps today for longer than an hour!!!

Oh thankyou everyone for congratulating Darrin - l will let him know - l am sure it will make him feel all warm and fuzzy :-)

Lauren - enjoy our next adventure!
Penny - rest up chick, l hope you and K are feeling better really soon!

Marianne - hope Elly is on the mend - hospital - what an awful thing for you to have to go through -- and what a very strange conversation you had with your doc!

Have a good one tonight ladies!

Oh one last thing - l went shopping today and spent lots of money -- not on me, l bought some pressies for the upcoming babies we have coming into this world - l bought the two bubs a caterpillar each (everyone knows how Coen just loves his), and a portable gym thing that hangs over the car seat -- l was trying to think of things that l have found just invaluable and that they wouldn't buy for themselves - and these were them - l hope they liked them!!! It was so much fun spending money - l also bought my SIL's birthday present!!! Even if the money wasn't on me....

Oh l know l said l was going but just one last thing - l have had more people raving about the ALDI nappies - and l have forgotten - anyone here tried them?

SuperFrog

11-07-2007, 03:22 PM

Oh Marianne, that's terrible! So, being in a country town is like being in a third world country... unless you have private health cover??? Hope the paediatrician called and you guys are being looked after right now.

My Mum and Dad came over for a visit today, which was lovely. We went to our local shopping centre for coffee and a stroll around. Mum then looked after Liam and I went food shopping with my Dad. So much quicker without a baby to lug around!

Liam is loving his apples. Going well with the rice cereal too. I think we'll move to pumpkin next. Might have to stock up on the napisan first... he has a tendency to get food everywhere. :laughing:

My old tap dancing teacher is giving me a high chair as her youngest is now 3. I'm really happy about this... gotta love a freebie!

blubber

11-07-2007, 04:10 PM

Thanx Mon & Sandy, we are still waiting and don't know what the bloody hell to do!!!

LMenz

11-07-2007, 04:18 PM

Liam is loving his apples. Going well with the rice cereal too

Hey Mon...How much dry rice cereal do you mix in with the apples?

Do you add breastmilk too or just the apple and cereal?

Marianne - I hope the doctor will call soon.....Jack had bronchiolitis about 3 weeks ago - it's very scary! I was so glad we live close to the Children's Hospital so I can't imagine how you feel. BIG :hugs: to you and Elly

LMenz

11-07-2007, 04:24 PM

l have had more people raving about the ALDI nappies - and l have forgotten - anyone here tried them?

They leaked for us :thumbsdown: We only tried them when Jack was a newborn. I had heard heaps of good things about them too. They may be different on Coen?

SuperFrog

11-07-2007, 05:01 PM

Hey Mon...How much dry rice cereal do you mix in with the apples?

Do you add breastmilk too or just the apple and cereal?

Liam wouldn't eat rice cereal at first (mixed with water or breastmilk), but had apples okay, which is why i decided to mix them.

To start I probably used 1 tsp of farex mixed with water to a smooth consistency, then added about the same amount of apple puree. I find I have to add more liquid to the farex than what is suggested on the box, otherwise I end up with it in one big icky lump.

So, now for my solids questions. :)

1. How often should I give him solids? I've been giving them to him twice a day, before a milk feed. I tried to give solids after a feed but he seemed to be full and not interested. At the moment his day is roughly like this:

boob, play, sleep
solids, boob, play, sleep
boob, play, sleep
little boob, little play, maybe little sleep
solids, bath, boob, bed

Geez, when you see it typed out like that, it's no wonder I'm tired! Oh, and that second last line refers to a little bit of a feed... not a feed from a small boob. :laughing:

2. How much should I expect him to be eating at the moment? We are about a week into our solids now. Do I just keep giving it to him until he won't open his mouth for more? This morning Liam ate three ice cubes worth of apples... which was actually a fair bit. I didn't expect him to eat it all but he did.

3. Once we are fairly established with solids, how many serves would he be expected to have? 2? 3? And how much is in a serve? 1/2 cup? 1 cup?

I am completely clueless and all the website info has conflicting info. My MCHN is a cow and I really don't want to talk to her if I can help it. As usual with this parenting stuff I think there are many different opinions about solids, especially in conjunction with breastfeeding. Some real advice/thoughts would be appreciated.

Marianne - can you talk to the hospital directly and see what they say??

blubber

11-07-2007, 05:08 PM

Ok so i had to ring the doctor myself.

D) Oh yes i spoke to the Pead and he has put your name down in casualty if you need to present her,(and tonight may we introduce Miss Elly, 4 1/2 months with bronchiolitis) there at anytime during the night.

So it has gone from i will arange to have her admitted to if you think she needs to go take her there.
All this after being told that any bub with her conditon should be in hospital? SO dam confused.

DH is about 2hours away and Elly is having a peacful sleep at the moment. Will wait for DH to get here as long as she is not too distressed.

LMenz

11-07-2007, 06:02 PM

Mon - Here is a post from Tan last month...I asked the same questions when Jack started.

do i just give it to him in the mornings?
If that is satisfying him atm then yes. If not...you could try some in the late afternoon..early evening as well.
I have always started mine in the evenings...more they night sleep than anything and i havent ever heard that you should give them in the mornings first...although that is a good theory. I would stick with it in the mornings for now.
should i keep giving it too him till he refuses anymore?
in short...yep. He will just eat till he's finished. When he's full..just throw whatevers left away.
when do you introduce it twice a day?
I always just gave one meal a day for the first week and then move to two.
when do you give him pumpkin etc.
Ok well...im probably going to see alot of faces like this:eek: but here goes.
They have all had the custards and fruits and the vegies after a few days of starting the solids. I would say anytime you want to but the health professionals will say otherwise lol.
Baylee started on farex...hated it and went to pumpkin that first nite so there's no hard and fast rules in it. Just if you think he is ready to start something new then go for it. My kids have all been exposed to a huge vriety very early...one of Baylee's first foods was gravy and Cody's actual first taste was ice cream with passionfruit. She loved it and that mouth looked like a sideshow clown following the spoon around:D.
Here's what Cody eats now
Farex, weetbix, custards, fruit gels, fruits, mashed potato when were having it, pureed vegies off our plate, rusks, yoghurt, ice cream, mashed banana, tinned heinz meat and vegies (the baby food variety), cup a soup lol.
So nope...there's no "wet cardboard" here:laughing:..she eats it all and loves it too.

Now all that being said...i know that as a first time mum, we're nervous and doubtfull etc etc so i get that what i do with Cody is what ALOT of people WOULD NEVER do but when it comes to your fourth, your more relaxed about things and none of my kids have ever had a reaction so im not hesitant. If they had had reactions then i wouldnt be so relaxed bout it im sure.
Its a case of if its smooth then anything goes here really.

ziggy29

11-07-2007, 06:18 PM

Juzzy - you poor thing. mothers rooms can be so dingy. i went in one of those curtained rooms when lily was little and it freaked me out no end. if i ever feel uncomfotable i will feed lily under a wrap and tell people it is to stop her getting distracted

lmenz - have you been to port fairy yet? i love it there
[quote=blubber;1685469]Well what a day and night...

Poor Elly. i would keep a close eye on her and if when she wakes she is still struggling the same as she was earlier i would go to the hospital. follow your gut and ignore the silly gp.

Superfrog -
i am no expert but here is my solids ideas.
you can feed then till they "turn away" same as with a breast feed. they can eat heaps but all babies are different so cant give you an exact amount. lily is having about one tablespoon of carrot and half tablespoon of apple and 3-4 teaspoons of farex mixed with 30ml of formula. one i know that she will eat a new taste i just mix it all in together.

i do the milk feed first as under 6 months the milk is still the most important. if you are doing milk after it might be best to wait an hour so he still takes a lot or try the solids an hour after the milk.

i am doing 2 feeds of solids a day - will go to three when i have too (could be soon as lily had 6 milk feeds today so far). we do around 8 and 530pm - similar to a normal breakfast and dinner time.

Once solids is well established then i would image 3 meals a day (just like us). as they drink less milk at around 1 year then add in snacks too.

hope that helps

Hels*Bels

11-07-2007, 06:27 PM

Reece started solids today :smiliedance:
I mixed the farex with warm formula milk this time and he scoffed the lot with very little mess. Then he drank 200mls of milk and slept for 2 hours lol.
I will give him some pureed apple next too.

I didn't go to my MG, I rang the girl who was hosting and we had a chat on the phone for a while. We get on quite well so we might meet up for a coffee sometime. I explained about my new business and how Reece sleeps in the arvos and she said she will explain my situation to the other girls. I've left the option open to still go along in the future.

I spent most of today working anyway.

Penny - Hope you and K are better soon :hugs: We missed you in chat last night. Maybe we can do the baby gallery next week if you are up for it?

Sandy - Have you tried Babylove nappies? I prefer them over huggies for daytime use, they are cheaper too.

Juz - Not a very nice experience, you poor thing. I have read other threads like that in here so it seems like a common thing.

SuperFrog

11-07-2007, 06:27 PM

I'd forgotten about Tanya's previous post... it didn't seem relevant at the time. I should have paid more attention in class hey?! :laughing:

SuperFrog

11-07-2007, 06:37 PM

Me again...

Can I skip the rice cereal and just stick to fruits and veggies? Liam really doesn't seem to like it... and I don't blame him! ick!

LMenz

11-07-2007, 06:47 PM

lmenz - have you been to port fairy yet? i love it there

Sharon...were heading there in the morning. We love it also. My DH grew up in Hamilton so he used to go there fishing all the time. The house we are staying at is right on Eastern Beach. I'll post some photo's when we return :)

Mon - I'm no expert on solids but I've just started once a day but will probably go to twice now. Jack polished off his farax tonight no worries. I normally do it in the mornings after his first nap which is an hour or so before his next milk. As we didn't get time this morning I did it at 5pm when he woke from his last nap. He then had the boob at 6.30 and took both sides

I just cooked up some apple and pumpkin and froze it for next week....the apple tasted yummy! No wonder Liam loves it. I can't wait to see the look on Jack's face when we try all the different fruits and vegies.

Last week I picked up a Women's Weekly cook book at Coles called Babies and Toddlers. It has recipies for 6-18 months. It's pretty good.....I feel more confident following the quantities from a book *paranoid mother alert* :laughing:

I also got a list at Jack's 4 month check up which covered low allergy foods and when to offer them. I'll pass it on to you at our next meet if you like

harleyq

11-07-2007, 07:05 PM

1. How often should I give him solids? I've been giving them to him twice a day, before a milk feed. I tried to give solids after a feed but he seemed to be full and not interested. At the moment his day is roughly like this:

boob, play, sleep
solids, boob, play, sleep
boob, play, sleep
little boob, little play, maybe little sleep
solids, bath, boob, bed

Geez, when you see it typed out like that, it's no wonder I'm tired! Oh, and that second last line refers to a little bit of a feed... not a feed from a small boob. :laughing:

2. How much should I expect him to be eating at the moment? We are about a week into our solids now. Do I just keep giving it to him until he won't open his mouth for more? This morning Liam ate three ice cubes worth of apples... which was actually a fair bit. I didn't expect him to eat it all but he did.

3. Once we are fairly established with solids, how many serves would he be expected to have? 2? 3? And how much is in a serve? 1/2 cup? 1 cup?

I am completely clueless and all the website info has conflicting info. My MCHN is a cow and I really don't want to talk to her if I can help it. As usual with this parenting stuff I think there are many different opinions about solids, especially in conjunction with breastfeeding. Some real advice/thoughts would be appreciated.

Hi Mon,
I am going to give you some advice about what l have been told - so take what you will and ignore what you will (as l have no real experience yet)

they suggest starting off with one meal a day in the mornings just in case there is a reaction - once your fine with that, 2 meals a day and then finally 3 - not sure how quickly to step it up, when it comes time for me to do it, l am just going to ask what worked for you guys...

On introducing new foods, they always suggest rice cereal first (and l can only guess its because its unlikely to cause a reaction), and then suggest introducing any new food in the morning 3-5 days after introducing the new food you can introduce another new food -- once again giving time for any reactions to surface

When introducing foods they suggest staying away from anything with wheat in it until they are 6 months to allow the digestive system to mature.

they suggest -
Fruit - slowly increase to 2-4 tsp
vegetables - slowly increase to 2-4 tsp
iron enriched cereal - start with a tsp and gradually increase over several days up to about 2-4 tbls
breast - feed according to need
formula - approx 800 ml

suggest introducing meats after vegetables and fruits have been accepted.

suggest feeding solids after milk, (they suggest give milk drink, wait an hour or so then feed solids) - my mchn was very particular about this - she seemed to think if you give them solids firs they are likely to drink less milk and milk is still the most important thing in their diet.

suggested meal guide - for start of solids to approx 7 months

morning - milk
b'fast - 1-2 tbl rice cereal mixed with milk
mid morn - milk
lunch - milk + fruit or vegetable
dinner - milk + fruit or vegetable
before sleep - milk

Last tips that my MCHN made me promise to pass on to my mothers group were -

* give them their own spoon so they are less likely to grab yours
* encourge them to explore new foods with their hands as well as their mouth. Finger foods such as steamed carrots are good

MCHN also suggested they should be eating 1/2 to 1 cup by 7 months - but l forgot to ask if that was each meal / per day or what -- so if somebody could clarify that one for me that would be great!!! :D

Feel free to ignore everything and anything here - as this is all just guidelines l have gotten from my MCHN not my personal experience...

harleyq

11-07-2007, 07:10 PM

Now that l think about it - l can clearly hear the nurse saying 1/2 to 1 cup 3 times a day.
(completely dependent on the child) - she also said that you increase the amounts quite quickly - meaning from a tsp once a day initially to 1/2 -1 cup 3 times a day... so l guess that means you have two months to get there Mon - if l stick to my plan of introducing solids at 6 months, than l have one month!!! I will be shoveling that food in - :gloomy: just kidding!

icugal

11-07-2007, 07:11 PM

Hey girlies..

re: solids - At the 'starting solids' seminar I went to a few months ago we were told that babies should have their normal breastfeed/bottle first and then have the solids after that... purely because if they fill up on the solids, they're less likely to have their milk requirement.. and that at this age, babies should not be dropping any milk feeds. Does that make sense?? My head is so blocked up I don't know if I'm arthur or martha :)

Has anyone else been told this?

re: Aldi Nappies - I tried the newborn ones when Kaelan was only a few weeks old..and EVERY SINGLE ONE leaked.. I ended up throwing the rest of the packet away because I didn't think the nappies were very cost effective when my loads of washing started to triple in amount. From the discussions I've had with other mums, the Aldi disposables seem to be better suited to girls. I now use Babylove during the day which I have found to be very good.. and I use a Huggies nappy overnight.

Juz - What an awful thing to go through... what a friggen sleazebag !!

Marianne - If you are worried about Elly.. just take her up to the hospital. Once you are there, they can hardly turn you away... and if they do.. well, that's the sort of stuff A Current Affair just love !! ;)

I've worked in a couple of very small country hospitals (eg 15 beds) and I can tell you now... a sick baby never gets dismissed... they are too much of a potential time-bomb with how fast they can deteriorate.

Hels - Yay for Reece !! He is such a good eater. I wish Kaelan was a bit more like him in that way. Be careful though... you might have to put him on Baby 'Lite and Easy' if he eats too well !! *LOL* Just kidding !! (sorry, just a reference from Kath and Kim).

As for me.. well still sick. Kaelan seems to be a little improved today so hopefully I will follow suit soon. Currently, Master K is flaked out in my bed (he looks so cute being so small in such a big bed)... I was absolutely desperate to have a sleep before... but I couldn't get Kaelan to sleep... so I took him to bed with me. Of course, he eventually fell asleep.. but by the time that happened, I'd completely woken up again :)

BTW, melb girls... if anyone is looking for the ice trays for freezing baby food (as discussed a couple of days ago)... the new Big W at Epping Plaza have some in stock.

icugal

11-07-2007, 07:14 PM

Has anyone else been told this?

Sandy and I posted at the same time... seems as though we were told the same thing !! :D

LMenz

11-07-2007, 07:21 PM

* give them their own spoon so they are less likely to grab yours

I've already had to do this..Jack is so eager he tries to help guide the spoon into his mouth. He also tries to eat the empty spoon :laughing:

BTW, melb girls... if anyone is looking for the ice trays for freezing baby food (as discussed a couple of days ago)... the new Big W at Epping Plaza have some in stock.

So do Highpoint Big W....DH picked some up the other day

blubber

11-07-2007, 07:26 PM

ok girls DH is home and Elly and i are going to hospital...

harleyq

11-07-2007, 07:27 PM

Me again...

Can I skip the rice cereal and just stick to fruits and veggies? Liam really doesn't seem to like it... and I don't blame him! ick!

Its the iron that they need - which is why most of the rice cereals are fortified with iron - l have no idea how much iron Liam would be getting from the fruit and vegies -- but if you could cover that off then you would be right

I googled it and this is what l found
"Term infants (as opposed to premature) who are exclusively breast-fed do not need supplemental iron until they are 6 months of age. If solid foods are introduced earlier, they should contain an adequate amount of iron. After 6 months of age, breast-fed infants should receive extra iron in the form of iron-fortified infant cereals and other iron-rich foods. These infants should be offered an iron-fortified infant formula after they have been weaned from breast milk. Term infants who are not breast-fed should be given an iron-fortified infant formula from birth. Studies are still under way to determine the optimal iron content of these formulas: and further studies are encouraged. Until the results are known, the use of currently available iron-fortified formulas seems appropriate. After 4 to 6 months of age, iron-fortified infant cereals provide a good additional source of iron."
taken from a Canadian study "Meeting the iron needs of infants and young children: An update"

Recommended iron intake -0-6 months 6 mg/day;6-12 months 10 mg/day

harleyq

11-07-2007, 07:29 PM

Just gotta say - really appreciate the tips on products, namely those ice trays - l picked up some of those from Highpoint today!!! That kind of advice is so invaluable!!!

LMenz

11-07-2007, 07:54 PM

ok girls DH is home and Elly and i are going to hospital...

Best of Luck Marianne :hugs:

I'm off to finish packing...night all :)

juzzy

11-07-2007, 08:58 PM

ok so after all the reading i have been doing about solids and things i think i jumped ahead by giving Cassidy potato!! LOL :o We gave it to her again tonight and she loved it. Am going to start feeding solids in the morning, as it makes more sense with keeping an eye on reactions and things.

Ill head off to the supermarket tomorrow and get some farex and give that a try as it seems like the best way to start really.

As for her having her own spoon, i bought some Tommee Tippee ones that tell you if the food is too hot by changing colour. I was out just to buy normal spoons, but these looked pretty cool :laughing:

I also need to go to Big W and try and get my hands on some of these freezer trays as they sound like they will be invaluable to the whole solids experience.

Thanks for your support about that freaky dude at Chadstone, it really creeped me out. He was with his WIFE and children for god sake. Next time im forcing DP to come into those rooms with me im not putting myself in that situation again, god knows what could have happened.

A friend of mine who has two kids gave me a womans weekly book called, ironically enough :laughing:, 'Baby Food', so ill be taking a few hints and tips out of that i guess. Ill bring it to the next meet if any one is interested.

juzzy

11-07-2007, 08:59 PM

ok girls DH is home and Elly and i are going to hospital...

Best of luck Marianne. Big :hugs: to you and Elly

my_lot

11-07-2007, 09:02 PM

eli just drank 100ml of formula from a bottle!!!

we didnt know what to do with him, hed had solids a little earlier today and didnt really want it and hed had a b/feed and didnt want more solids so dp was going to try a drink of water so i got the bottle and he drank it so i quickly mixed in the scoops and shoved it back in his mouth.

dp was holding him in his arms and we didnt dare move! so for 10 minutes we just stood there making no eye contact with him and shushing the other kids while dp had him in this strange upright hold head tilted back while i held the back of his head in one hand and the bottle in the other!

wonder how he will sleep tonight. gawd i love that pigion bottle! anyone want some advent, nuk, tommytippy- im sticking with pigion!. blo0dy kid has cost us a mint in bottles and teats! on second thoughts id better hang onto them all he may just change his mind.

tan- did you get mail from us?? i forgot to ask you.

solids- i still do 2 meals a day. we have had the odd day where hes been hungy in the early morning (missed dinner) and then has a little something at lunch (like some banana in that meshy thing or a chew on a rusk) and then his normal dinner.

i try to stick to lunch and dinner and always after b/feed.

i also try to use farax everyday. i mix it up with formula then add a little puree fruit or veg to the bowl with farax. so a spoon of this and a spoon of that. his other meal is custard.

i got 6 packs of motherly frozen cubes of fresh food at the baby show and he is not keen on those at all! they are not sloppy puree and he gags on it.

he hates lumps. i have no idea when im meant to give mashed food.

im thinking of trying some baby yoghurt soon.

aldi nappies- im not a big fan of them. they dont seem to sit right. the newborns leaked and the next size we used (we were given them) were not a good fit. i like the new baby loves i got at the babyshow but im not sure im going to get that if i buy some, they might be the old stock. i havent had to buy sposies for quite a while now but im going to have to really soon i think we are down to about 5 in the house and a few in the cars and nappy bags. wish i could get VIPs...do they still make them?

i got some new wooly pants the other day and i just lanolised them and washed them in 'monkey farts'. oooh they smell so good. im going to try one out with a babybeehind MCN over night and see how it goes.

blubber- hope your dd is ok. let us know how you went at the hospi.

SuperFrog

11-07-2007, 09:42 PM

i got some new wooly pants the other day and i just lanolised them and washed them in 'monkey farts'. oooh they smell so good. im going to try one out with a babybeehind MCN over night and see how it goes.

What the??!! I have no idea what monkey farts refers to, and why it smells so good.

After hearing everyone's advice on solids, I think I'll swap to giving them after a breastfeed. My milk supply is pretty cr@ppy anyway, so I don't want it to drop any further.

I swore I was going to have an early night tonight, but it is 11pm already and I haven't moved off the couch yet.

Hels*Bels

11-07-2007, 09:48 PM

eli just drank 100ml of formula from a bottle!!!

gawd i love that pigeon bottle!

i got 6 packs of motherly frozen cubes of fresh food at the baby show and he is not keen on those at all! they are not sloppy puree and he gags on it.

I love the pigeon bottles, we have been using them all along and I always recommend them to everyone :)

I have been looking for those packs of motherly frozen cubes and I can't find them anywhere. So maybe they only sell them in Qld and not in Vic? as I have definitely seen them in Qld before.

Marianne - Good luck at the hospital, I hope all goes well.

Solids - I have got a book too, very helpful for a first time mum lol. I also bought the last pack of Happy Baby ice cube trays the other day from the BigW at Fountain Gate (Narre Warren).

I have no idea why I am up so late, or maybe it's because DH is watching a James Bond movie on TV :rolleyes:

LOL @ Monkey Farts! :laughing:

icugal

11-07-2007, 11:01 PM

Hels - They do (or did) sell the Motherly cubes down here too. The last time I saw them was in the frozen food section in Coles (Greensborough store to be precise). Admittedly, I haven't looked for them to buy myself (have only come across them when looking for other things), so I assume they still sell them.

Roopee

12-07-2007, 08:52 AM

Kay- yes we got the mail...i sent you a big text too? Didn't you get it? Bloody hell that took me ages to write too! My phone does this sometimes..the message is in my sent items folder? You must think i am soooo ungrateful! Im so sorry about that!
:yelclap: to Eli for the bottle! Well done!

blubber-big :hugs: to you and Elly!!! Hope she's ok!

ice cube trays-You can also freeze portions in the baby food jars...the glass ones. I just take one jar out at a time. Very easy and its a great way to recycle too!

hels- ive seen the motherly cubes at Woolies! Safeway for you i think?

us- well miss Cody is all better and now Baylee is all sick! Geez...i hate winter!Dont you love it...one gets sick and pretty much you just sit and wait for the next ones to get it too!
Anyway...im off..my little barnacle is calling......

my_lot

12-07-2007, 10:00 AM

hi everyone-

well we had a sh!t of a night. he woke at 11 and then 2am and that was an hour screaming fit. he went back to sleep and then woke an hour later. another short sleep and we were all up at 5:30am.

i got a sample bag of goodies for adding to your woolies when they get lanolised and monkey farts is one. smells so good... the otehrs are good but monkey farts is my fav.

those motherly cubes are in woolworths i think they said at the stand i got them at. they have a website you could check that on where they sell it. i think the portion size is great and they smell like real food, not tin stuff. you can see whats in it but eli doesnt like them at all. he pulls that "ive got a lemon in my mouth" face and then gags.

are you going to the baby show hels? they sold them there. 6 packs and the esky for $15.

tan- i was starting to wonder if i should check the back of the work car! i handed it to dp to post one day on his way out the door. im glad you got it.

well ive got all the kids home today so im off to the dog park with the pup and then a big park for the kids. eli is really enjoying the swings at our little park up the road so ill be sitting him on a lap for a slide down a slippery dip today.

i think ive given up on keeping him less mobile. the kid just wants to stand every time hes sat in a lap. he can move in a 360 on his back on his playmat now. he will inch his way around to any toy thats out of reach.

penny?? was it you with the dogs that weed?? what did you end up doing to fix that? we saw a dog DR yesterday and he said the pups bladder isnt going to work everytime til over 18 weeks of age. did you find that with your dogs?

icugal

12-07-2007, 11:43 AM

ice cube trays-You can also freeze portions in the baby food jars...the glass ones. I just take one jar out at a time. Very easy and its a great way to recycle too!

OMG... that is such a fabulous idea !!! I'll have to remember that one..

Have you got any ideas what I can do with formula tins?? I hate throwing them out (DF makes me though) because I keep thinking "I'm sure I could do something creative with these"

penny?? was it you with the dogs that weed?? what did you end up doing to fix that? we saw a dog DR yesterday and he said the pups bladder isnt going to work everytime til over 18 weeks of age. did you find that with your dogs?

I have two chihuahua's who unfortunately were never the best with toilet training (I didn't find out til a few years after buying them that this can be common with the breed). As they are indoor dogs, I try to give them toilet breaks outside every couple of hours... if however, they can't hold on (ie overnight or if we're out), then I've been trying to get them to pee on blue absorbent pads ('blueys') that I pinch from work (finally.. an advantage to working in a hospital !! *LOL*).

Unfortunately, my littlest dog Mollie is a very sensitive soul and often reacts to stress with seizures (she has mild epilepsy)... As a part of the seizure she usually loses bowel and bladder control and will vomit too (it's just lovely !! :rolleyes: ). Of course when this happens she will look for somewhere soft to go... and things like my carpet or Kaelans mats are her target.

If I'm at home, I know her pre-seizure warning signs so I can get her outside or onto tiles (if there's no time) to avoid the mess. If I'm not at home, I make sure all doors to carpeted areas are closed... and now I'm getting into the habit of putting a waterproof tarp over Kaelans mats in the loungeroom. That way, it they do pee, the urine won't go on or under the mats. I've been doing this for a couple of weeks now, and so far it has been very successful.

Sorry that was such a long-winded answer :D

mumslilspunks

12-07-2007, 12:11 PM

I must be the only one with a bub who still wont take solids....
Ive treid so much, farex (on its own and with apple, banana)
avocado,
vegies,
potato,
pumkin and still spits it out.
Oh well guess he'll eat when he's ready.
Ds1 was a great eater.
Billy is sleeping heaps better of a night now. Goes down around 730 ish and only wakes once for a feed and thats anywhere aroung 2 and 4 am then back to sleep untill 7/8ish.
:fingerscrossed: It stays that way.
Be back later to catch up on everything.:detective:

Roopee

12-07-2007, 02:10 PM

penny- formula tins are great for the shed. All the little knick knack, screws bolts etc.
My kids all have them as stitlts too. Just tie a piece of string to each one (drill o hole in the bottom of the tin (so the rope forms a loop?) and there you have it!

Hmm K might jut be a little young for that toy yet?:laughing:

harleyq

12-07-2007, 02:40 PM

he hates lumps. i have no idea when im meant to give mashed food....
aldi nappies- im not a big fan of them.

Again this advice that l have been given - not tried, but they say puree or fork mash up until 7 months (some people recommend against puree altogether and prefer fork mash - they say it prepares kids for lumps in the future... you guys already trying solids can inform me if that works); introduce coarer textures 7-9 months, including soft lumps... mashes etc.

Thanks everyone for the advice on Aldi nappies - l now remember having asked this question before and getting the same advice...I wonder if they suit older children better - l don't know if l can be bothered trying them - l love my reliable Huggies!!! But l only ever buy them on sale.

I must be the only one with a bub who still wont take solids....
Your not the only one Ren, I haven't even tried Coen on solids yet - he doesn't really seem to be exhibiting any behaviours that lead me to believe that he needs them yet - he does watch me eat, but he doesn't grab for the fork or anything, and anytime l have put anything near his mouth he will barely even lick it, and if he does (very rarely) he doesn't go back for more -- l am content to wait -- no rush for me -- but l can tell you now, l am getting d@mn annoyed with his total lack of concentration when hes feeding - he is only feeding for a maximum of 10 minutes at the moment (if l am very lucky) and is sooooooooooooooo distracted it is driving me.... well to distraction :-) Even if we are alone, no tv or anything on he is still distracted... he even gets distracted by the air vents!

Oh -- l got my Huggies play mat the other day - its enough to drive you insane if you leave the music on when they are lying on it - but it is good because it is plastic Coen can do 360's on it.... l put him facing nothing and within a matter of minutes he has turned himself around to face me or the TV or something (TV always wins over me though ;))

WHat else???? Hope l can make it to chat tonight!!! I am rambling now....