Toddlers standing in prams or trolleys [Archive] - Bub Hub Pregnancy & Parenting Forum

Buddha Bubbas

29-06-2007, 16:30

westerner

29-06-2007, 16:32

My child stands up in a trolley.. :eek:

I must be a bad mum... :o

Pinkbug

29-06-2007, 16:34

so do my child!! in trolley!!! what is wrong with that?? its hard enough having a baby in the capsule I would rather DD to be in trolley than walking beside me I get the shopping done quicker :thumbsup:

kymmy

29-06-2007, 16:34

I am a "bad mum" too. Bub is terrible for standing up in both. He just rather run around and drive me insane (and probably others) He tries to stand even with the harness on. And even in the car seat.
Am I a worse Mum if I sedate him?

SairBear

29-06-2007, 16:37

im trying to get dd to get out of the habit of standing on the side of them

when i was at woollies a while back there was a what looked like 9mth old girl sitting in the child seat and her sis was playing on the side of the trolley, her grandmother was unloading trolley items onto conveyer when all of a sudden the trolley went over!!:eek: the lil girls weight had tipped it over ... luckily they werent hurt at all, but there was alot of screaming and tears from both kiddies.. it was horrible to see. It scared the begeezes outta me. I realise how dangerous it is now.

Niki

29-06-2007, 16:37

ds1 stands up while in the trolley sometimes, it is very hard to keep him sitting down

HoopDeeDoo

29-06-2007, 16:38

Noah has to go in the trolley now that Lachlan is too big for the capsule seat thing. I try an encourage him to sit when we're moving but he likes to see everything.

It's the only way I can get groceries when I'm shopping with both kidlets because the double pram doesn't have any places to put things. And it's much safer then letting Noah run off :yes:

I know it is bad but I do what I gotta do

SairBear

29-06-2007, 16:38

tho i think if they just sit in the bottom of the trolley and dont move they dont any harm

SorenLorensen

29-06-2007, 16:42

i dont think DD has ever been in the main part of a trolly much, so she has not had much of a chance to stand up in one, but i dare say she will, she is only in there when i have my neice with me.

when she is in her pram she likes to climb out, we have tried everything to keep her in but when she wants out she wants out, her way to do this is to wriggle out the top of her straps, standing up while she does it.....if i am walking along and she does this yes sometimes she will turn around for a few seconds and hold onto the back of the pram (while i hold onto her hands), but that is mainly when i am walking in a crowed and cant stop to sort her out.

sometimes its hard to keep your kids where you want them to stay

Buddha Bubbas

29-06-2007, 16:43

westerner

29-06-2007, 16:49

Ive never had a problem with my child sitting in a pram either.. But theres only so much shopping one can carry/balance while pushing a pram.. Therefor my son either sits in the trolley seat or sits/stands in the trolley.. :thumbsup:

He doesnt jump around, go crazy, lean over the edge or anything so im not greatly concerned for his safety.. I believe he is safe..:yes:

Would be worse if he wasnt in the trolley and ran off and got hit by a car or something equally as tragic.. That wouldnt be pretty.. :no:

Pinkbug

29-06-2007, 16:54

same here.. my DD is good in the trolley ..doesn't muck around in it... I have seen some kids who go crazy in trolleys poor mums!

p.s I didn't bite ya head off :D

EskimoMumma

29-06-2007, 16:54

i remember my skirt/pants caught in the wheel.

Was NOT pretty sight at all.

Occasionally Alex hops on but in the front infront of me.. rest of the time he just helps 'steer' or navigate.

twolittlegirls

29-06-2007, 16:55

My DD often stands in the trolley. I've never had a problem with it. I would rather this then trying to chase her down the supermarket all the time.

mum2bubba

29-06-2007, 16:56

Mine TRIES to stand up in the pram and trolley, I tell her off. :shame:

HoopDeeDoo

29-06-2007, 16:57

No biting here BB I love ya too much :hugs: :D

Lozie

29-06-2007, 17:01

Both the boys stand up in the trolly, Dh spins them around in the car park:D it's fun

me270880

29-06-2007, 17:01

yay ! we're all doing the wrong thing.

i found it is immpossible to push a pram and do a weekly shop at the same time. so first they go in the seat. but once they start trying to climb out of the trolley seat i put them in the main trolley part (i feel thats safe for my monkeys then on the sides). unfortunatly bubby has just started trying to eat the shopping as we go.:banghead:

SmileyBJ

29-06-2007, 17:01

I cannot believe the number of kids I have seen lately standing up in a trolley or in the pram backwards holding on :eek:

I really do not understand why anyone would do this. It makes me cringe and I just want to go over and ask WHY???? Why would you do this?

Can anyone tell me??

Hey, I completely understand. It upsets me quite a bit when I see children doing this also. Especially the prams mainly that I freak...

Only because like yourself, I have seen many accidents apon accidents with children who have gotten really hurt falling out of the prams while standing.

Nobody is a bad mum if they let there child stand, I just personally have a scary attachement to things like this and always make sure the harness or buckles are done up... or sit a blanket in the trolley and have them sit while I shop... :confused: I suppose too because I am always looking after others children then I am overly safety concious so nothing ever happens to there little ones??

kymmy

29-06-2007, 17:03

kiah

29-06-2007, 17:06

My dd escapes out of trolleys. She can undo the belt thing...it is annoying. But i try to stay with one hand on her if i can while i'm looking at food.

If she falls out she's not going to die. She rolls off the couch at least once a day so i'm not too worried. But parents worry about diff things and thats ok

Buddha Bubbas

29-06-2007, 17:06

No biting here BB I love ya too much

Thanks HDD lol

Both the boys stand up in the trolly, Dh spins them around in the car park:D it's fun

:confused:

Hey, I completely understand. It upsets me quite a bit when I see children doing this also. Especially the prams mainly that I freak...

Only because like yourself, I have seen many accidents apon accidents with children who have gotten really hurt falling out of the prams while standing.

Nobody is a bad mum if they let there child stand, I just personally have a scary attachement to things like this and always make sure the harness or buckles are done up... or sit a blanket in the trolley and have them sit while I shop... :confused: I suppose too because I am always looking after others children then I am overly safety concious so nothing ever happens to there little ones??

Thank you. Yes its the prams that worry me the most. :o

Lozie

29-06-2007, 17:16

they laugh! It's fun he only does it a few times while they're sitting down that way they think shopping is fun:yes::D it's not like he pushes the tolly away from him to throw it into a spin he just twerls (sp?) it around close to him. i dont like the pram thing tho not much space to move and easily tipped over.

danielle13

29-06-2007, 18:21

If she falls out she's not going to die.

Hate to burst your bubble Kiah but I used to work at a supermarket and one night a little boy fell from a trolley and suffered severe brain damage. No he didn't die but he was in a very bad way for a very long time.
And considering most shop floors are concrete....

theycallmemum

29-06-2007, 18:23

Well, the only way I can use my pram at all is if I let my son stand up looking at me. He has screamed everytime he was put in the pram from the first day we used it. He is too heavy now to carry everywhere so he stands in the pram and I hold onto his shirt.

Lirael

29-06-2007, 18:23

hmm. well my DS is 4.5 and occasionally he will stand on the end of the trolley. how on earth is one supposed to get groceries, as a sole parent of 2 kids, without putting them in a trolley?

DD sits in the seat and DS stands on it or walks, cos our coles has ONE double trolley. he may stand in it too, he cant even fit in it sitting.

Pinkbug

29-06-2007, 18:25

Hate to burst your bubble Kiah but I used to work at a supermarket and one night a little boy fell from a trolley and suffered severe brain damage. No he didn't die but he was in a very bad way for a very long time.
And considering most shop floors are concrete....

oohh ouch poor boy!!! but then again if my DD was being silly like jumping up and down or sitting on the edge of trolley i would tell her to get off or stop it... she is usually good in trolley anyway

Pinkbug

29-06-2007, 18:26

SmileyBJ

29-06-2007, 18:28

hmm. well my DS is 4.5 and occasionally he will stand on the end of the trolley..

Yup I find standing on the end of the trolley good once they get to this age. Just not on the sides otherwise whee flip! trolleys gone lol.

Shouldn't laugh about it really... :o lol but thats what happens...

subaruforestermum

29-06-2007, 18:34

My son stands up in the main part of the trolley, OMG......

For the simple fact that he either tries to walk and push the trolley, and rams it into people....

It is hard to get him in and out of the seat, as he has long legs and its quiet difficult.....

He runs away from me to look at what HE wants to look at.....

Or he tries to stand up in the seat, which I would be more concerned about.....

Is that ok BB??????? GGGRRRRRR I BITE:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

danielle13

29-06-2007, 18:35

hmm. well my DS is 4.5 and occasionally he will stand on the end of the trolley. .

You mean like "riding" the bit that really hurts if you get it smashed into your heel? that's the best way i can describe it lol.
That's not so bad IMO, not as far to fall and its unlikely they'd fall on their head.
But when you think about it, standing up inside the actual trolley bit, they're most likely to topple out head-first :thumbsdown:

Mum&bubs

29-06-2007, 18:36

Summer stands in the trolley and often falls over in it so I just don't let her sit in there anymore, I put her in the seat buckled up so she can't move :laughing:

reAllytee

29-06-2007, 19:00

I sorta agree with the standing in a pram being worriesome, i cringe when i see it because its so easy for them to fall straight out.

When it comes to standing inside a trolley im more laid back especially nowadays. I never thought i would do it but when you have a huge child that at 15mths no longer fits in the seat & you have no choice then standing in the trolley is the only option.

We dont do it often but we do it.

Roxy

29-06-2007, 19:09

We quite often have both the kids in the main part of a trolley - especially when we have just visited the ice cream place and are trying to get back to the car.

DH has also spun both of them around in the trolley.

I've never seen it as a safety issue, as they aren't mucking about it the trolley - only standing or sitting (or squashing the bread!).

I'll join the "bad mothers" club... ;)

FourAngelKisses

29-06-2007, 19:51

~Emmylou~

29-06-2007, 19:52

I don't let my DD stand up in her pram but if I have to take both her and the baby to the supermarket alone I don't have much choice.

I put DS in the baby capsule thing on the trolley and stand DD in the trolley hanging on. The only other option is to allow her to walk and in the supermarket with everything in her reach and me with my hands full with a trolley and baby that isn't even an option :no: She'd strip the shelves and be eating everything she could get her hands on in nothing flat for sure.

She doesn't jump around in there or anything so I'm not sure how we'd manage to flip it so she'd fall out :confused:

katherine

29-06-2007, 19:53

DS1 has to stand in the trolley (although prefer not to take him with me) but they have no double trolleys in my shop... not much else when you have two kids to watch...

he cant sit as i have to use the lay back baby trolley.. not much room in there to move around

and he has to stay perfectly still.. face forward, and hold on whenever i move

danielle13

29-06-2007, 20:31

I don't like either and I've never allowed either to happen. If they can't fit in the trolley seat, they hold the side and walk. When I take 2 shopping, the younger one goes in the seat, the older one walks.

One thing I do hate with a passion is kids sitting on the hood of prams. All I can see if these poor kids going mouth first into the concrete.

Very sensible of you :yes:
See this is exactly what I would do if I had more than 1 - I really don't see why anyone would "have no choice" but to have their kids standing in the trolley :confused:

Yes I hate when I see kids on the pram hoods too, especially when there's another little one in the pram :( *cringe*

reAllytee

29-06-2007, 20:37

I really don't see why anyone would "have no choice" but to have their kids standing in the trolley :confused:

Because im by myself & with a 2yr old who refuses to do as he is told i have no choice.

He will run off or if i use his harness he will throw himself down on the ground. He will also pull things off shelves, throw things etc. Sorry but im not going to spend 3hrs to get shopping done for one & i cant afford to pay for all the goods he breaks or ruins.

I dont have a choice of shopping with my DP because we rely on home delivery which is limited in our area to only being done through the week which is when he is at work. We dont own a car so again no choice.

I understand people are worried etc but honestly i take this on board myself when i do it. Its my choice as a parent to do what i do & i wear the consequences if something happens.

Lirael

29-06-2007, 20:41

what ally said

not to mention the abuse and evil stares i have copped when my son screams the shop down because he wants to run away...

reAllytee

29-06-2007, 20:55

what ally said

not to mention the abuse and evil stares i have copped when my son screams the shop down because he wants to run away...

Or having to drop everything & run after them when they take off with store security chasing you making you feel like a thief !

Also not possible to chase after them or drag them around at 8mths pg !

SorenLorensen

29-06-2007, 21:19

See this is exactly what I would do if I had more than 1 - I really don't see why anyone would "have no choice" but to have their kids standing in the trolley :confused:

i will remember that next time i have to take DD and my neice out.....

just wondering...is it bad if i tie my child to the side of the trolly ??? only asking becuase if she is not alowed in the trolly and i have my 13 month old neice in the seat how am i ment to keep a 23 month old from running ???

also i have had to do this since DD was around 16 months so that question applies to that age too....

oh and i am being serious here....
DD cant walk for long periods of time due to her feet (they are not as strong as other childrens and tire faster)...now when her fett get tired do i put her in the seat and make my 13 month old neice hold on to the side of the trolly and walk :confused: ......

see i dont see what eles i am ment to do ?

oh and i cant always use a twin pram becuase they dont hold very much in them

Little Gorilla

29-06-2007, 21:28

In reponse to the OP....

My son, who is nearly 2.5 WILL NOT SIT IN A TROLLEY SEAT...end of story...however, if he gets to sit in the trolley part where the food goes and somtimes stand, then he is an angel while I shop.

If you can find me someone that can look after my son while I do my shopping, let me know.

I keep my eye 100% on him at all times ...95% of the time in sits in the trolley part.

Africamum

29-06-2007, 21:29

I was once in a shopping center with my mum, we were just walking in and a toddler fell head first out of the trolley. My mum must have had lightning reflexes because put her arm out and she caught the child by the leg, lessening the blow to the childs head.

It IS hard, but OMG I wonder what damage would have sustained if it were not for mum that day.

I also have a freind whose child was unconscious for several days after falling off the couch.

DS is not allowed to stand in trolleys or on the furniture and it is a full time job trying to enforce it, but I cant just call an ambulance if something goes wrong (African Jungle).

OJandMe

29-06-2007, 21:40

Mine stand/sit in the trolley when I take them shopping by myself.

Anyone who has ever met my children would agree... there is NO controlling their running. :no:

And those double toddler trolleys are SO hard to manouvre, plus, being 33 weeks pregnant.. it's just too much to try and push one of those heavy things, plus two 17kgs boofers, plus a belly.

Nup. not happening.

Buddha Bubbas

29-06-2007, 21:51

Thanks to everyone who answered the question with out sarcasm :thumbsup:

Lucky I dont do the grocery shopping, who knows what club I would be joining :p :devil6:

Danielle13 - ;)

SorenLorensen

29-06-2007, 22:00

Thanks to everyone who answered the question with out sarcasm :thumbsup:

i hope you dont think i was being sarcastic...
i was serious.
i really would not mind knowing where they would prefer me to put my neice when DD cant walk any more and also how i am ment to keep either one close to the trolly and not run away.....as far as i can see the only option would be to tie them on...(and no i wont be doing this)

Buddha Bubbas

29-06-2007, 22:07

Nah all is good flick :thumbsup:

I do understand how hard it is. :yes:

pookiesossige

29-06-2007, 22:39

Ronan will walk holding the trolley if Ariene is in the seat.
If he is tired and cranky, I have snacks and drinks from home for him to SIT in the trolley and eat. Plus a Thomas train and maybe Annie or Clarabel to keep him occupied. If he sits still and behaves (99% of the time) he ends up getting a matchbox car... honestly, it's not bribery, it's an incentive to behave!

Works though ;) :D :yes:

westerner

29-06-2007, 23:17

I really don't see why anyone would "have no choice" but to have their kids standing in the trolley :confused:

Would you like to borrow a couple of 2 year olds from a few of us bubhub girls and take them shopping?
(and no you cant use leashes)

I would be interested to see how you handled it and got the shopping done with out anyone running away or breaking something or hurting themselves.. I could get some tips from you.. ;)

Ohh throw in a preg belly to contend with also.. :thumbsup:

I understand people are worried etc but honestly i take this on board myself when i do it. Its my choice as a parent to do what i do & i wear the consequences if something happens.

Exactly.. What i choose to do is my choice and my business.. What other mums choose to do in there situation is there choice and there business..

Its just another example of judging others who have different views, opinions and ways of parenting there children..

You parent your way.. and let others parent there way..
And dont judge each other for differences.. ;)

nic28

30-06-2007, 08:20

elissas

30-06-2007, 08:47

Standing in the pram is definitely a worry. Same with kids sitting on the hood/handles (especially this). I'm just worried that the pram will tip over.

We let DS stand in the trolley once when I had DH with me. He enjoyed it but it's not a habit I want to get into because I shop monthly and simply put there's no room for him!

That's also the beauty of monthly shopping at Aldi. It's done in under an hour, and I don't have the hassle of keeping DS happy in the seat every week.

For those with the issues of keeping their kids in their seats, have you considered tweaking how you do your shopping? Say, like monthly shopping at night and get someone to watch your bubs?

Not judging or jumping here, just letting you know what works for me, as DS is restless too and I've found that it can be better or worse depending on when and how I do things.

TeamAwesome

30-06-2007, 08:52

I don't have a choice as my husband works away, there are NO options up here for trolleys with two toddlers (none for a baby and toddler either) being pregnant and having a bad back I can't drag my 19.5kg 3yo and my 12kg 18mo around or chase after one while carrying the other one, so yes I will put my DS and occasionally my DD in the trolley.

I have to pay all the bills, buy all the food, clothes, presents and anything else all on my own with the kids as I don't have any support around me. If I have a lot to do I might buy them a donut or something to keep them entertained a bit longer as no one wants listen to them upset in the line at the bank or post office.

Lucky I dont do the grocery shopping, who knows what club I would be joining

That says it all to me... you don't understand as you've clearly never been in the situation of going shopping with toddlers who aren't perfect angels who will just sit in the seat or calmly walk beside the trolley.

Lozie

30-06-2007, 08:56

It really is hard shopping with 2 or more kids pram or trolley, I had a harness for Jacy but he
always wanted to walk himself and hold the harness if he didnt oh it was like he was being murdered! He walks ok now helps me push the trolley or the pram i have on occasion put him to sit on the top of the pram we have have a jogger and the handle folds down he sits up there when he gets tried holding on to me, I would rather have a few evil stares and some nasty comments even tho i have never gotten any, than my baby lost in the shop cause he keeps running off they are safe with u however u want to carry or push them and thats all that matters, I wasnt being sarcastic in my last posts just saying the boy thought it was fun to spin around in the trolley just like we have games at home where i drag them around the house on sheets:D it's fun and as long as u are responsilble they will be safe, I trust my Dh 100% with the boys so i'm not gonna freak out if he only trying to make them laugh,
I really think there is a whole over reaction to the OP, No one is a bad person for letting their child sit or stand in a trolley or a pram, they way i see it is if the do hurt themselves which probably happens everyday for most kids they will learn not to do it again cause if u fall it hurts, they wont die from standing in a trolley or pram, If thats the way ur children behave while shopping :yelclap: to u ur doing better than me:D

FourAngelKisses

30-06-2007, 09:06

they wont die from standing in a trolley

They do actually.

Injuries associated with shopping carts are an important cause of pediatric morbidity, especially among children younger than 5 years. An estimated 24200 children younger than 15 years, 20700 (85%) of whom were younger than 5 years, were treated in US hospital emergency departments in 2005 for shopping cart�related injuries. The most common anatomic site of injury is the head and neck region, accounting for 74% of shopping cart�related injuries among children younger than 15 years, 79% among children younger than 5 years, and 92% among children younger than 1 year. Approximately 4% of children younger than 15 years treated in an emergency department for a shopping cart�related injury require admission to the hospital. Children younger than 5 years account for 93% of these hospital admissions. Fractures are the most common injury resulting in admission, representing 45% of all hospitalizations.1 Deaths have been reported from falls from shopping carts and cart tip-overs.

Lozie

30-06-2007, 09:23

They do actually.

This is just my opinion but if u are supervising the child/children then i dont see the problem really as i said i would much rather having them safe sitting or standing in a trolley with me watching them not leaving the trolley, then have them run off for some one to pick them up and take off with them
Do u seriously belive someone would let their child act silly while standing in or on the back of a trolly, I dont think so. Jeeze it could kill you walking down the street or riding in a car but we all still do that. Ppl die everyday in all sorts of situations, my kids are well behaved in the trolley the sit on a rug most of the time with some toys to keep them occupied, i personally dont see the harm. If it stops tanties i'm all for it. I'm not going to wrap my kids up in cotton wool, because they might get hurt they might get hurt playing at a park or in the back yard, or even walking in the shops i just cant understand the over reaction to the whole thing but thats just me i suppose.

Tabby

30-06-2007, 09:29

Like every thing else parent wise its really a personal thing. I personally dont let my kids stand in trolleys etc, but Ive yet to have 2 close together in age so that could change.???..
The only time It really bothers me is when I see the trolley un attended by an adult and children in it. Accident waiting to happen imo

KarniF00l

30-06-2007, 09:34

I can honestly understand your concern BB. When I see children standing up in a trolley or pram, I fret quietly. I understand that it's not all apples and cream for some parents when taking children shopping, but the safety of a child, yes their child, is important! We took DD1 to the Royal Childrens Hospital on Tuesday and this poor little girl came in because she tipped the trolley and split the corner of her eye on the shelf.

I have put DS2 in a trolley before but he knows to sit down and never to stand up.

I've also seen very young children get out of their car seat and turn around so that their looking out the back of the car and this was on a busy Highway. Two Adults were in the car and they didn't stop at all. This was the whole way from Bendigo to Melbourne, a 1.5 hour trip. :(

No judgements are made.. just concerned for the safety of other littlies when I see this happen. :)

FourAngelKisses

30-06-2007, 09:35

I'll bow out of this conversation gracefully here, it is something I will never work out I guess.
I had 2 kids 15mths apart and never had to put one in the trolley and never had one run off on me.
And now with 2 more to take shopping on my own each week, I still don't have a runner.
Whoever is walking helps with the shopping and it is fun for him/her.

Each to their own, it isn't something I would personally do, but at the same time, I would never tell those who do it that they are bad parents.

SorenLorensen

30-06-2007, 10:08

I think being a prenting forum it is BBs right to express her concern and to her this may be a real issue, one that she was interested in finding answers to.
if one is giong to get hurt by others expressing concern or asking a valid question then i think maybe they should just stay away from that topic.
as a parent who does put their child in a trolly i was not hurt or angered by the question becuase everyone is different, and everyones world beats to a different drum, if the questions are never asked how are they ever going to get answered ?

anyways, i just wanted to say becuase i dont think i have said it properly yet...
DD does go in the trolly, she does not really stand up all that much , times she will is when we are stoped at the register (she has to hand everything to the check out person) other then that she is sitting.
unfortunetly if i have a full day of shopping there will be times when DD has to go in the trolly and this will have to go on for quite a while becuase of her feet (and when she is 4 and up i really dont want to have to bring a pram for her)
but at the moment yes DD stands for short amounts of time, i do my best and watch her, and yes i will stop it when she is a little older and understands me better and i am able to explain things to her (now i can tell her something but 2 min later she has forgotten)

mum2L

30-06-2007, 10:39

As yet I don't have this problem of deciding what to do with DS when I go shopping, as atm he still sits in the seat. Each child is different though and what works with some, wont work with others. We also all have different opinions on what concerns us and what doesn't.

Having read this thread all the way through I don't think BB is judging parents whose children stand up in the trolley. I thought she was just express her concern over it and asked the question of why some parents do this, so that she can perhaps have a better understanding of why.

I personally find that expressing concern is a totally different kettle of fish to passing judgement.

:yes: totally agree.

westerner

30-06-2007, 11:06

Goodness if this thread keeps going the way it is we will need to open up 2 new sections on bubhub..
The trolley sitters/standers and the Non trolley sitters/standers.. (wheres mr rolley eyes when you need him.. :cool:)

At the end of the day how we choose to parent is different and everyone makes there own choices based on what they feel is in the best interest of there family..

Whether that is having your child sit/stand in the trolley while supervised to prevent the risk of them running off.. etc

or

Whether that is having your child walk next to the trolley/be carried to prevent the risk of hurting themselves/falling out of the trolley.. etc

Then so be it..

There is no need for anyone to judge anyone else for the decisions they make or assume they know/there way is better..

There is no right or wrong.. Just differences.. ;)

Lets just support everyone for making conscious decisions throughout there childs life in the best way they know how to and in the best interest of there family..

Lets not turn this situation into another one of those debates..
We are all parents with the same goal..

TRY NOT TO JUDGE OTHERS.. :thumbsup:

Kristy
:hugs:

mum23girls

30-06-2007, 11:34

Goodness.. can you imagine the shock horror I got when I turned back around and saw DD3 STANDING IN THE SEAT... OMG I nearly died!! She decided from that day that she would undo the seatbelt (to which it is hard to even FIND a trolley with the seat belt the works properly and isn't broken in my area!) and want to stand in there... that is when I decided to put her IN the trolley. She will happily stand or sit in there..ahhhh bliss!!

However I hate taking them shopping anyway, so I try and do shopping when DH is home and they stay with him!! If we only get a few things she goes in the trolley if I need more than a stroller can fit!

Now, with regards to the stroller... I have had two kids who HATE being belted into the pram/stroller and by that stage they are big enough to walk most of the time and when they get tired they get back into the pram/stroller...but DD3 loves the security of the belts so doesn't mind being locked in. I have known kids that crack at being strapped in their pram.. but I will never allow them to stand in a pram.

PS FourAngelKisses... did that come solely from a US reference? I have seen the pathetic little trolleys they use over there..don't know about everywhere in the US though.. I am sure Australians have better trolleys than theirs...

MonkeyMum05

30-06-2007, 12:34

I let my 2 year old stand in the trolley... I'd prefer him to do that than stand on the trolley seat, which he has attempted a few times...
He is also able to undo his pram buckle and climb out. When He undoes it, I keep walking, hoping it will make him sit back down, so I guess I would be walking along with a toddler standing on their pram too.
I really don't see the big deal.

MummyCharmzy

30-06-2007, 12:45

i will remember that next time i have to take DD and my neice out.....

just wondering...is it bad if i tie my child to the side of the trolly ??? only asking becuase if she is not alowed in the trolly and i have my 13 month old neice in the seat how am i ment to keep a 23 month old from running ???

also i have had to do this since DD was around 16 months so that question applies to that age too....

oh and i am being serious here....
DD cant walk for long periods of time due to her feet (they are not as strong as other childrens and tire faster)...now when her fett get tired do i put her in the seat and make my 13 month old neice hold on to the side of the trolly and walk :confused: ......

see i dont see what eles i am ment to do ?

oh and i cant always use a twin pram becuase they dont hold very much in them

I have the answer... as I deal with this every week when I do my weekly food shop.

I take my twin pram... with my 12 month and 24 month olds in it.. I have my 4 yr old walking next to us... I load up the hood of the pram and the basket.. of course its not big enough we have 6 ppl in our family to feed... I go and pay for it... put it in my car... and go back in and do the other half of my weekly food shop. Yes it takes forever but its the only way I can especially as I shop at aldi's and they 'kindly' only have single child trolleys... no twin ones like coles/safeways have lol

Ange&Seth

30-06-2007, 12:48

I let my boy sit in the trolley basket, he refuses to sit in the toddler seat and on the odd occasion that he DOES sit in the seat, he undoes the belt and tries to get out anyway. I don't push the trolley while he's standing up though, I make him sit down.

I rarely use a pram now but when we do, he's ALWAYS strapped in.

I agree with Goose. We shouldn't be judging anyone for their choices. Everyone has their opinions of how things should be done, and we should respect those opinions/decisions.

Wazza

30-06-2007, 15:21

My DS sits in his stroller but the trolley.... Lately he sits in the seat of the trolleyy then wiggles himself out of the seat belt and stands up on the sit. when i put him back down in the seat he goes off his tree!!!! So the last time we went shopping he stood in the trolley and loved it. He is 20 months, held onto the side of the trolley and liked helping mummy put the groceries in the trolley and onto the counter. Although I watched him the whole time...just in case!!

SorenLorensen

30-06-2007, 15:25

I have the answer... as I deal with this every week when I do my weekly food shop.

I take my twin pram... with my 12 month and 24 month olds in it.. I have my 4 yr old walking next to us... I load up the hood of the pram and the basket.. of course its not big enough we have 6 ppl in our family to feed... I go and pay for it... put it in my car... and go back in and do the other half of my weekly food shop. Yes it takes forever but its the only way I can especially as I shop at aldi's and they 'kindly' only have single child trolleys... no twin ones like coles/safeways have lol

hi sorry i know this might work for you but when i go shopping with the two i dont have any where to put things, the hoods on the pram are not strong enough for me to be happy putting anything on them. and i find it hard enough to push the twin stroller around add me holding a basket to that and i doubt we would move at all.
sorry as i said this may work for you but it wont for me, there are a few different reasons i use a trolly sometimes and those time are not ones that i have the option of going back and forth to the car every time i buy something.

oh andp.s how sucky of your aldi....ours just got one about 2 weeks ago after my friend with twins told them they need to get one

Milliner

30-06-2007, 15:28

DS hates the pram now and he also will not sit in the seat of the trolley, the only option for us is to carry him around or let him stand in the trolley. He loves it, he loves to stand and see what's going on. I never used to like seeing it but when you have a child that screams with every other option then you tend to change your mind.

subaruforestermum

30-06-2007, 15:38

Although I have already posted in this thread, I had to put another 2cents worth in.....

As mum23girls said, instead of sitting in the seat, my son will try to stand cos he wants to get out....he gets down then as I stated tries to rams people with the trolley (not intentionally, just tries to help push), I cannot stop him as I can only use one hand! So when he tries to run off if he gets told to stop, I cant get him.....

I would rather him stand in the centre part than the seat, anyday...

Also, if he is put in the seat, he can undo the belt, and also screams or shall I say squeals to the point where he p!sses everyone off and I get people telling me to gag him, or giving me filthy stares, and if I allow him to walk he stops where and when he wants and is in the whole NO stage, so he wont move, or throws himself on the ground......

I dont know why I am explaining myself, as others have said, its a parental choice.... My child's safety DOES come first, that is why he is in the trolley part where he cant climb out of, and he is in my reach/sight at all times, rather than running off through the shops where I cant find him etc......

He also hates to be strapped into a pram, which is really pointless anyway, cos with one hand I cant push a pram and a trolley!!!!!

Rainbowbrite

30-06-2007, 15:48

MJ always stands in the trolley. I've had people almost squash her between my trolley & theirs, and she has almost had her feet run over by the trolley. She's much safer in the trolley with me watching her :yes:

MelNTom

30-06-2007, 16:03

Just recently my DS was standing in a trolley.. and he fell out my dad and my sister were with him while i was at the deli like 2 metres way.. the trolley was a dodgey one and he reached out to help his poppy get oranges the trolly tipped over.Ds face went down the crates the oranges were in and onto the floor.. i heard him scream (lucky my aunt was at the deli too to get my stuff) DS ended up with a cut mouth bump on the head,a skinned nose and
concusion..and then started spewing everywhere...(the ladies at coles were awesome) and now hates trolleys will not go near them...he seen a little boy standing up in one the other day and said mummy he will fall out... oh and his poppy got a broken toe lol....
i cried as i thought it was my falut and my dad thought it was his but it was just an accident..

Jeclipse

30-06-2007, 16:23

Lil X-men

30-06-2007, 16:54

Ok calm down. I never said anyone was a bad mum.

I once saw a toddler fall out of a trolley. It wasnt pretty. :(

I dont know. Maybe im over reacting. I have never had any trouble with either of my kids staying in prams. Just asking a question. Dont bite my head off :)

Darl I know your concern, as I have also seen a bub no older than maybe 1yr old fall head first out of a trolley onto the concrete floor of the shop, OMG the sound of his head hitting the ground was awful and he screamed so loud poor little mite. The mother was also hysterical- very upset about the incident.:gloomy:
Up until then I had quite often let DS stand up in the trolley, but after seeing that I only let him sit in the back of the trolley if he remains seated, coz the thought of him falling out scares the cr@p outta me.
No one is a bad mum for doing this guys, we all know how difficult and uncooperative toddlers can be when it comes to shopping time.
Sometimes my DS refuses to sit in the proper trolley seat and wants to be carried which is so hard coz the trolleys have crooked steering and other times he wants to run off and cause havoc pulling things off shelves. Luckily for me I usuallly have DH with me when we shop ( we shop on his days off) so I have an extra pair of hands to help out with my hyper 2 year old lol!!

mum23girls

30-06-2007, 17:08

There probably would be heaps more "accidents" of children/toddlers running from their parents and tripping over face planting it into the floor!!:eek:

I saw a little boy run thru target and got a god awful gash just above his eye because he tripped and fell against the corner of the shelving!!

30-06-2007, 17:17

My two stand/sit in the trolley, I think the seats are more dangerous. My two keep each other company on the trolley, and don't try to hang over the edge or anything, I find it to be pretty safe, myself.

SassyMummy

30-06-2007, 17:57

DD doesn't stand in the trolley - she sits in the seat like she's supposed to. No matter how much of a fuss she makes - I'm the boss so I lay down the law and MAKE her sit in there. She usually stops screaming about it roughly a minute after I put her in.

I can understand parents with more than 1 child using the inside of a trolley - but not people with just 1 kid. It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine - I just don't think it's the safest option.

As for prams - I have no problem tut-tutting people who have their kids standing up in prams as they push their prams around (knowing full-well their kid is dangerously standing in it!). Same goes for people who let their kids sit on the hood... I mean, how flimsy are those things? It could easily break, and crush the other kid, or have the kid sitting on it fall off and bang their head on the hard floor. It's just ridiculous - get a double pram or a sling or something if you need to!

reAllytee

30-06-2007, 18:21

Sassy & i understand your concern really i do.

But in all honesty what am i meant to do ?

Seriously im not trying to be horrible to anyone but what the hell do i do when my child is too big to fit in the seats ?

Also at 8mths pg i cant physically lift him in & out of those seats because of how they need to be positioned. I had trouble even before then !

As i have said also i dont get the luxury of choosing to do my shopping when i can leave him with DP. Im lucky every so often my sister will take me to do a big shop but otherwise im left on my own to do so.

If someone can come up with an option for me having a child that does not fit the trolley seat & who runs off if left to hold on i would gratefully accept it !

Lirael

30-06-2007, 18:24

i find it utterly :thumbsdown: that people like Ally feel they have to justify or feel guilty about what they do as parents.

FourAngelKisses

30-06-2007, 18:27

Have him help with the shopping....get him to throw the cans or packet stuff in the trolley.

Tell him that if he holds onto the trolley and doesn't run off, he can have a donut (or other food of choice) afterwards.

Talk about the different colours of the packaging.

Not sure how old he is, but these all worked for my kids when they were around 1.5-2.

Tea Lady

30-06-2007, 19:20

Ally, maybe you could strap a really powerful magnet to him and that way he'd have no choice but to stay with the trolley! (I'm kidding - obviously!:p )

I really feel for you - lifting my DD in and out of the seat when pregnant (or with DS in the sling) left me in serious pain for the rest of the day. I only didn't put her in the trolley because I knew I was going to fill it to the top with junk!

MilkOnTap

30-06-2007, 19:28

I cannot believe the number of kids I have seen lately standing up in a trolley or in the pram backwards holding on :eek:

I really do not understand why anyone would do this. It makes me cringe and I just want to go over and ask WHY???? Why would you do this?

Can anyone tell me??

I haven't read any of the posts to this thread yet (will go and read them now) but in response to the OP I have to say that I agree - IMO leaving children standing up in trolleys and prams is dangerous; and borderline irresponsible.

Too many times I've seen prams and trolleys tip over - I'd hate to think what damage that hard concrete/tiled shopping centre floor could do to a young child's developing skull... :(

vanillabean

30-06-2007, 19:50

I am another of THOSE mothers that lets her kids go in the trolley. My kids always have to sit if they are in the trolley. If I only have DD, sometimes she will get into the seat, but generally makes it very difficult for me to get her in (straightens he legs so I can't get them in). I am not always satisified with her being in there because she takes off the seat-belt and tries to stand.

SassyMummy

30-06-2007, 22:41

I guess that makes sense Ally - DD is big too, and I'm short... so I understand the struggle to get a heavy baby in there... so it must be even more difficult with a preggie belly.

So you do have a point.

It still bugs me to see it though. If I saw someone in similar circumstances to you, I would probably be more sympathetic to the issue, and understand.

Sometimes though, I see tiny babies that can barely stand getting pushed around. Not even grocery shopping... just wandering around the supermarket in a trolley. They kept swaying and falling over and the mother never even notices (or at least, if she does, doesn't seem to care).

THAT really really bugs me.

Buddha Bubbas

30-06-2007, 22:48

I wasnt going to come back and post but here I am.

I have read all posts. Thank you for the ones that replied without judging me for asking a simple question. I do understand why some people do it. Its not so much the trolley thing. Or sitting in it. Nothing wrong with that. But, ok, im going to stop.

I really feel that people only need to defend themselves when/if they are being attacked. I didnt attack anyone.

People ask questions all the time. Why do you bottlefeed? Why do you co-sleep? Please dont automatically shoot someone down for asking a question. :(

Im going to get this closed now. :)