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IheartOman
23-06-2007, 14:06
I'm going to take Oscar to the doc's next week but

I'm wondering what others have done for their babies reflux and how effective was it?

How quickly did it help?

Did it clear the problem up 100%?


Thanks. :)

FourAngelKisses
23-06-2007, 14:09
Troy is on 1ml of Zantac 3 times a day (tastes like ****....tablets are better than the syrup)

I give him 1ml of Mylanta 10mins before a bottle, and the Zantac I give to him after his bottles.

I also started him on an HA formula yesterday.

ETA : I also add Karicare Thickener to his bottles.

nats
23-06-2007, 14:15
I've heard the chiropractor can fix up their reflux! Two if the lumbar vert. are directly related to the stomach.

If DS had reflux i'd go the chiro :thumbsup:

IheartOman
23-06-2007, 14:16
Thanks chickies :)

Angel kisses: all that stuff you do, did the doc recommend that and how effective is it?

Nat. Another friend suggested the chiro so I am going to try it. Thanks :thumbsup:

FourAngelKisses
23-06-2007, 14:24
Dr prescribed the Zantac, pharmacist told me to try Mylanta....everything else I've just worked out on my own.

Nowhere
23-06-2007, 19:39
thats the question all the GIs in the world are trying to figure out, there isan organsistion called pager trying to raise money to find a cure at the moment there is not solution for reflux and infant GORD but there are a few things that can help we are have tried them all


keeping uprite for anhour after feeds
small frequant feeds
no laying down flat at all even proping the chnage table
thickened feeds
chiroprator care

All the following would need to be disgused with a pead first
Mylanta or gastrogel which is an acid it will neutralise the tummy content to ease the burning
zantac to lower acid production
zoton or losec to lower acid production even more
sometimes reflux can be caused by a delay in the gastric emtying in those cases a medication called domperadone is perscribed it help the feed move through quicker
another thing that doesnt help with reflux is constipation if thats the sometimes stool softners help

with the reflux meds its important to remember that mylanta or gastrogel shouldnt be given an hour either side of losec zantac o zoton as it can stop it working


the last resort is an operation called a nissen fundoplication this is only done when the reflux is casueing life thraetning compilcations, my daughter had hers 2 months ago and is still suffering with reflux but thankfully not as bad as she was but still bad


Thats about all i can tell you about whats the solution, but if you figure one out be sure to let us all know

good luck reflux sucks its a nasty horrible disease

mim1
24-06-2007, 07:50
Josh is on zantac. By the way mylanta can't be used long term, only short term cause it has aluminium in it and it can accumulate over time.

Zantac (or any medication) isn't a miracle cure, but it sure felt like it at the start. The change within a few days was dramatic. Suddenly he slept during the day, was happy to feed 3 - 5 hourly (instead of 2 - 3 hourly) and he was smiling. He still had bad days, but they were further apart and not so severe. My paed explained that medication helps with the symptoms, but not to expect a cure.

Josh went on medication at 4 weeks and he's now 5 months old. Reflux hasn't really bothered him for about 8 weeks now, which feels great for all of us :). He was so good that we trialled him off zantac last week and within 24 hours he was screaming and wouldn't stop (something he hadn't done for ages) ... he's now back on zantac and no more screaming.

bossoflatch
24-06-2007, 10:46
sorry to hijack the thread

but mim1- did your pead say how long can they stay on mylanta (ie how long is too long ) the chn said bubs can have up to 15mls mylanta a day -(we never have given her that much -coz honestly for us - it rarely helps) but the gastro specialist hadn't heard of mylanta being used at that dosage??? our pead simply said to give her mylanta if it works it works - if not ????

IheartOman
24-06-2007, 14:31
Thanks ladies :thumbsup:

JoJoMart
27-06-2007, 09:16
I definitely find sitting bubs upright after a feed helps.......we do this for half an hour. If we don't or we lay him down flat straight away he will often bring up his milk......sometimes it upsets him other times it doesn't. I've noticed if it's partially digested then he will get upset after he vomits.

Zantac......Liam is on 2mls 2-3 times per day (he's 7.2kg) as it's weight specific I think. This has helped a lot but he still has moments when he's unsettled.

We can't really feed Liam small feeds as he gets upset but we try and burp him half way through and definitely at the end of a feed and that seems to help too. We are also trying the Karicare AR thickened formula.

Good luck. It's horrible I know

IheartOman
27-06-2007, 13:15
Thanks. I went to dr's today and she gave me a prescription for the zantac. Oscar is 7 kilos and he has to have 1ml 3 times a day. Apart from that we have changed formulas to a reflux one and I have elevated his bed. Hope it picks up soon :fingerscrossed:

Sandra/Paul
27-06-2007, 13:21
ETA : I also add Karicare Thickener to his bottles.
yep this is what i do for William. Seemed to work pretty much straight away once we had the dosage right.:yelclap: :smiliedance:

IheartOman
27-06-2007, 13:28
yep this is what i do for William. Seemed to work pretty much straight away once we had the dosage right.:yelclap: :smiliedance:

Would you add thickner though if your using a reflux formula because the formula is already thickened? :detective:

Sandra/Paul
27-06-2007, 13:35
Would you add thickner though if your using a reflux formula because the formula is already thickened? hmmm unsure as i breastfeed, but im sure someone will know. If not you may be able to phone your local CAFHS nurse and ask them.

Nowhere
27-06-2007, 14:35
No not a good idea to add thickener to reflux formular as it already has the thickening agent in it, adding more mey cause constipation

IheartOman
27-06-2007, 15:23
I thought so. Thanks! :)

FourAngelKisses
27-06-2007, 17:53
Plus it wouldn't come out of the teat, lol.

shaz77
27-06-2007, 21:06
My daughter has reflux - we went to the paed and he gave her losec - tablet has to be disolved in water once a day. The change was almost instantaneous - she slept 4 hours straight!!!! I forgot her meds one morning and 20 minutes after her feed she was screaming. So we are sticking with the meds for the moment. Is it true reflux settles down on its own when they start sitting up and on solids around six months? (only 10 weeks at the moment)

mim1
19-07-2007, 16:29
reflux peaks at somewhere between 6 and 14 weeks then slowly gets better. My paed said that 90% of babies are ok if taken off med's at 5 months, the rest are mostly off med's by 9 months. Josh failed off med's at 5 months, so hopefully 9 months will be the end !! :)

I haven't checked this thread for a while, so I didn't see bossoflatch's comment. I don't know how long you can use mylanta, but my paed said that he couldn't continue on 6 times a day for months on end. From memory he said 3 - 4 doses a week was fine. Really don't know though.

bpato
20-07-2007, 17:42
My paed said that 90% of babies are ok if taken off med's at 5 months, the rest are mostly off med's by 9 months.

DS is 21 months and is still medicated for his reflux, so I am not sure how that figures into your pead's stats.

Not all children will grow out of it as such, and believe it or not there are quite alot of adults that suffer from reflux in varying degrees.

DS is 1/2 a sachet of Zoton once per day. He has been on this for around 10 months now, and at one stage it was increase to twice a day.

It has been a real godsend and started to work straight away as it is an acid prohibitor, in that it reduces the amount of acid in the stomach.

Apparently there is an operation if the reflux is bad enough, that can reduce the symptoms, I wont say cure as I am not 100% sure if it does stop it all together, where by they tighten the sphintor (sorry about spelling) at the top of the stomach.

Belinda

Nowhere
20-07-2007, 22:46
Apparently there is an operation if the reflux is bad enough, that can reduce the symptoms, I wont say cure as I am not 100% sure if it does stop it all together, where by they tighten the sphintor (sorry about spelling) at the top of the stomach.

Belinda[/quote]


yes there is an operation for it its called a nissen fundopilcation, it is a pretty bug operation my dd had it done on the 17 of april this year, you are corect in what you said it is by no means a cure but it does help although in tern comes with its own set of problems, it is only done when reflux is causing life threatning compilications, it has helped my DD so im glad we did it but we did hold of until she was over 12 months in the hope that she would of improved with age however she didnt and was was verry unwell because of it

kiwibird27
21-07-2007, 21:37
My daughter has a fundo 4 weeks ago, she still wants to vomit, just can't, at least we can finally feed her into her stomach now, she is on 5 mls twice a day of Losec, 2 mls once a day on Zantac and .87mls of E-mycin 3 times a day for her reflux and that seems to help. The fundo was a 5 hour operation and is only for VERY severe, can't gain weight reflux babies.

scarlet
24-07-2007, 16:33
DS is 21 months and is still medicated for his reflux, so I am not sure how that figures into your pead's stats.



Mine too Parker is 2 yrs 10 months :thumbsdown: and still on meds... I beleive once he hits three, he will be classified as not growing out of it.

With the poster who asked about mylanta, I would be cautious about using it all the time. It contains aluminuium which is not good for babies.

It should only be used on advice by the doctor and for flare ups only. If you are needing it more than a couple of times a week, it is time for a general reflux med increase (ie your zantac, losec, zoton)